/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/07/#ubuntu-za.txt

=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
magespawngood morning all05:46
magespawngood morning all05:47
Kiloshi magespawn 05:54
Kilosi got probs05:54
Kilosadding nm-applet to startup apps has stopped pc from booting to desktop05:55
Kiloson maverick now05:55
Kiloscan get into ctrl+alt+F2 but dunno command to get rid of startup apps05:56
Kiloslogged in as a guest ok but still cant do anything on miles05:57
Kiloshi superfly hodgecola 05:58
superflymorning Kilos, magespawn05:58
Kiloshehe05:58
magespawnhey Kilos, superfly05:58
Kiloshow does a guest session do anything on the main users home05:59
magespawncould you use sudo?06:01
Kilosyip it says i dont have permissions06:01
magespawnyou would have to add guest to the sudoers file, but how you do that I have no idea06:02
Kilosbut could do sudo aptitude install gdm but never helped06:02
Kilosit said something about sudoers ya06:02
Kilosgrrr and i got an email from ubuntuone telling me what commands to use to get ubuntuone to wget from my pc the missing upload06:04
Kilosnow if i reinstall i lose all that06:04
Kiloshi jurgens06:06
Kilosmagespawn, have you got 5 mins to look at this06:10
Kiloshttp://superuser.com/questions/221340/set-password-for-root-on-virtualbox-ubuntu06:10
magespawnsure06:10
Kiloswill that give a guest power to change home settings06:10
Kilosmy home settings that is06:11
Kilosto be able to see my startup apps06:12
Kilosand delete nm-applet in there06:12
magespawnusermod -G admin rob, where rob is account you want to add with admin privilages06:12
magespawnthis is in Recovery Mode06:13
Squirmdc06:13
Squirm.:Squirm:. its in /etc/sudoers06:13
Squirm.:Squirm:. you can specify that the guest can use certain commands without a password06:13
Squirm.:Squirm:. or you can give guest access to all the commands if they know the root password06:13
Squirm.:Squirm:. you can give them access to all commands without the root password(I wouldnt suggest this)06:14
Squirm.:Squirm:. and06:14
Squirm.:Squirm:. I spy with my little eye, something beginning with 'S'06:14
Kiloslol06:14
Kiloshi squirm06:14
magespawnif you do give guest root access you should also remove it as soon as you sorted your problem06:15
Kilosso in recovery mode after logging in i run usermod -G admin guestnumber06:16
SquirmguestALL=(ALL) ALL :NOPASSWD06:16
SquirmI have a feeling that will give guest sudo access06:16
Kiloswhew lemme write this down06:16
Squirmthat line would go in /etc/sudoers06:17
Kilosty guys will try get back with 12.0406:17
superflyKilos: why do you want to give the guest account sudo access? that's very insecure06:18
Kilossuperfly, i cant get into my desktop06:18
Kilosnm-applet in startup apps stops gdm loading06:19
Kilosso i must as a guest delete that nm-applet from startup apps06:19
superflyKilos: you don't need to tell nm to start up, it's probably already starting up06:21
superflyKilos: also, might I suggest you ask me or someone else knowledgable in here before you ask the list. The list is now full of n00bs who don't understand the question and don't actually understand they answer they are giving06:22
Kilosit doesnt accept the auto connect ticked block or the enable broadband permanently superfly 06:22
Kilosi didnt want to worry you superfly i know you are busy, but ty i have learned my lesson06:23
superflyKilos: yes, but nm-applet is probably already running anyways... so your problem and the solution you were given are actually completely unrelated.06:23
Kilosso what do you suggest i do now superfly ?06:24
superflyKilos: what you're trying to do at the moment - remove nm-applet from your startup06:24
Kilosas a guest?06:25
Kiloswith sudo powers06:25
superflyKilos: no, that obviously won't work06:25
Kilosfrom recovery mode?06:25
superflyyou need to log in in recovery mode and go and figure out where that file actually lives on your hard drive (and I don't know where)06:25
Kilosok lemme try06:26
Kilosluckily i have maverick to come here with06:26
superflyKilos: I need to go, briefly, I'll be back in a little while06:30
Kilosty superfly go safe06:31
KilosSquirm, do i gedit /etc/sudoers  ??06:32
Squirmleast that's where sudo users are kept06:32
Kilosor cd to it06:33
Kilosok here goes. hold thumbs guys06:34
=== plustwo_ is now known as plustwo
Kilosbbl06:34
Squirmyou could also boot into the networkless runlevel06:35
Squirmoh yes06:36
SquirmI forgot to mention the word I spied with the letter 'S'06:36
Squirmit's snowing06:36
charlvn_good morning06:45
charlvn_Squirm: nice! enjoy06:46
=== charlvn_ is now known as charlvn
charlvnmagespawn: coffee on06:46
magespawnerr okay06:48
* magespawn flips the salt timer06:48
charlvnbah06:48
charlvnsorry man06:48
magespawnlol np06:49
charlvnthis stupid auto correct :D06:49
Squirmlol06:49
charlvnwhen i type "Ma-tab" i get magespawn instead of maaz06:49
charlvnMaaz_: coffee on06:49
* Maaz_ starts grinding coffee06:49
magespawnMaaz_ why do you have a tail?06:49
Maaz_magespawn: I already know stuff about why06:49
charlvnit's too early in the morning for this nonsense, i need coffee06:49
magespawnlol06:49
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charlvn!06:53
SquirmI need coffee06:54
Squirmbut then I have to go and buy milk06:54
SquirmMaaz_: please go and buy milk for me06:54
Maaz_Squirm: *blink*06:54
charlvnMaaz_: thanks!06:55
Maaz_charlvn: Okay :-)06:55
charlvnSquirm: what is this for laziness :)06:55
SquirmI have the day off sick ok06:56
Squirmand it's snowing06:56
Squirmthe first day I've taken sick off work this year06:56
charlvnok no that's different then, sorry to hear06:56
charlvnget better soon!06:56
* Squirm kicks the snow to tomorrow06:56
charlvnbbl, work06:58
=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg
Kiloshmmm07:15
Kiloscant get into anywhere there07:16
Kiloscan get into /etc/ but cant edit sudoers even with sudo07:17
Kilosusermod -G admin rob says no admin found07:17
Kilosi can see that /etc/sudoers from maverick here but cant change permissions07:18
Kilosdont wanna start chowning indiscriminately07:18
Kiloscan see 12.04 home miles but cant find the startup apps07:19
inetprogood morning07:49
inetproSorry — I was up all night trying to download photos taken by a robot lowered onto Mars by a skycrane07:49
* inetpro lol at xkcd humor 07:50
tonberry352_lol07:53
magespawnMaaz tell Kilos "usermod -G admin <name of account>"07:57
Maaz_magespawn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode07:57
magespawnmorning inetpro07:57
Kilosgoodness gracious bally dammit me09:06
Kilosfirst messed up things, then found another way to do it09:07
Kilosnow dunno how to get my nm applet goodie back in top panel again09:08
psydroidmorning Kilos09:08
psydroidoh, I never know how to get all of those applets back09:09
Kiloshi psydroid 09:09
Kiloslol09:09
psydroidso I just back up all settings and have them recreated09:09
Kilosyou have missed all the fun here this morning. i added nm-applet to startup apps then pc could boot to gui because it couldnt open that nm applet without a gui09:11
Kilostried lotsa things but couldnt get anywhere so used ctrl+alt+F2 and purged network-manager09:12
Kilosthat didnt solve the booting to gui09:12
Kiloslogged in as other user with same name and password and hey presto could go remove the nm-applet from startup applications09:13
Kilosbut the nm in top panel is gooooone09:13
* Kilos cries09:13
psydroidI'm sure you had lots of fun pioneering troubleshooting this part of the operating system09:14
Kiloslol09:14
Kilosin maverick you could right click on a panel and go add to panel09:15
Kilosthat doesnt work on 12.0409:15
psydroidyeah09:15
psydroidI have similar problems with the KDE desktop, so I usually keep a backup of the home directory with all settings, which can be easily restored in such cases09:16
psydroidat least at my friend's office, I haven't had such problems myself09:17
Kiloslol i only been on here a week and havent made one backup yet09:17
Kilosbut i did rsync archives to my external so i could get network-manager installed with gdebi09:19
Kilosyay09:19
psydroidyeah09:19
Kilosmagespawn, 09:20
psydroidhere I've got too lazy to do anything like that09:20
Kilosif you dont have bandwidth cost probs then you can just update download again09:21
Kilosi rsync archives everytime i install something new09:21
psydroidimagine having to download everything all over09:22
Kilosif i was on uncapped i would most likely have done a clean install again09:22
Kiloslol09:22
Kilosi was frantic this morning09:23
Kilosbeen trying for about 5 hours09:23
KilosMaaz_, coffee on09:24
* Maaz_ flips the salt-timer09:24
KilosMaaz_, hurry09:24
Maaz_Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed09:24
KilosMaaz_, move it09:24
Maaz_If I get anymore cheek Kilos you can do it yourself next time09:24
KilosMaaz_, rusks please09:24
Maaz_behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos09:24
Kiloshiya maiatoday1 you grew some09:25
Kilosphase 1 already09:25
psydroidyou must have woken up very early, I just got up at 1009:26
maiatoday1hmm, dunno why I have an extra ear now09:27
Kiloshehe09:27
Kilosthe bot also. its the net thats sick09:28
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos!09:28
Kilosand Symmetria doesnt fix it09:28
KilosMaaz_, ty09:28
Maaz_You are welcome Kilos09:28
Kiloswhat is the super key on a keyboard??09:37
Kiloshi smile09:37
superflyKilos: the super key is the Windows key09:41
Kilosoh my shoulda been called the poofie instead09:42
Kilosty superfly 09:42
smilehi Kilos :p09:47
zerefheeeehhhheehhhh, snow is falling09:50
Kiloseina09:51
Kilosits freezing here09:52
Kiloszeref, where are you?09:52
zerefjoburg09:52
Kilosoh my09:52
Kilosand wind straight over you to us09:52
Kilossuperfly, i recieved a mail from ubuntuone. he says i must do this09:56
Kilos1. Run the following in the terminal - in Dash (Super/Windows key or09:56
Kilosclick Ubuntu icon in Launcher) type Terminal (all one line):09:56
superflyright, so open the terminal09:57
Kiloswhat parts of that must i actually use09:57
Kilossuperfly, I dunno what to use of all that10:01
superflyKilos: open your terminal and type out the command he gave you (which you didn't type out here)10:01
Kilosoh10:01
Kilosoops10:01
Kilosi thought it was in that first bit10:02
Kiloswget10:03
Kiloshttp://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-ubuntu-syncdaemon-diag.sh10:03
Kilos&& bash ubuntuone-ubuntu-syncdaemon-diag.sh10:03
Kilosthat looks better hey10:03
* Kilos such a twit10:03
Kilosdid that and it wgot 1.2m and said saved but i dunno where10:13
Kilosin home methinks10:14
magespawnHey Kilos been busy sorry.10:37
Kilosnp magespawn 10:37
Kilossnowing here10:37
magespawncool very!10:37
Kiloseish10:37
Kilosthat white stuff sucks10:38
Kilosmagespawn, wanna try something10:38
magespawnokay10:38
Kilosonly way i got back here10:38
Kiloslogged in as another user but used same name and password and could get to delete that nm-applet in startup apps10:39
Kilosall those other ways didnt work10:39
Kilosso even as another user if you use same name and password you have full control10:40
Kilosis that right?10:41
magespawnit should not be another user at all if the name and password are identical10:41
Kiloshehe10:41
Kilosthen what happened10:42
Kilosit let me login properly10:42
magespawnunless I miss how this works 10:42
Kilosi will try it on maverick sometime10:42
magespawnI think uppper case and such could make a difference10:43
magespawnbut if it identical then you are that user10:43
Kilosnope i did everything same10:43
magespawnwell then you are that user, problem solved, lol10:43
Kiloshow come it didnt get stuck at the nm-applet thing10:43
Kilosim so happy but while trying to get in i purged network-manager and had to install from ext archives but the icon in top panel is gone10:44
magespawnto get the icon back you have to right click i think.10:45
magespawnuse the add to panel command10:45
Kilosdoesnt work with unity10:45
magespawnwill have a look when I get back, I have a game drive to go on.10:46
Kilosnplad you have a good day10:46
Kilosenjoy10:46
Kilosty for being there for company10:46
magespawnnp10:47
inetproKilos: is ook so koud daar by jou?11:01
Kilosdit het bietjie kapok gegooi nou nou11:01
inetpromy vrou het nou gebel, was so bietjie kapok daar11:01
Kilosvrek koue wind11:01
inetprowow11:01
inetprokapok = sleet ?11:02
Kilosmin dat jy dit sien in pretoria11:02
inetprobeslis11:02
Kilosya like fine snow that falls straight down not zigziag like flakes11:02
zeref_workwhoah11:07
zeref_workhttp://i.imgur.com/ds6K5.jpg11:07
=== hodgecola is now known as Hodgestar
Squirmhi12:10
zerefsudo start heater 13:54
superflyHahaha I wanna do that too.13:55
zeref:)14:00
zerefi've not seem so many people taking pictures of them in snow14:00
zeref*themselves14:01
=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za
Symmetriaheh14:45
SymmetriaI want to meet whoever supplies the drugs to cisco14:45
smilebye14:53
Trixar_zaYou know, I have a weird idea14:53
Trixar_zaWhat if you created a distro with sudo preinstalled, but with a NOPASS group that the user gets added to on install14:54
Trixar_zaThen you make up the application launchers/shortcuts that need root access just call sudo before running the application14:55
Trixar_zaThis is probably insecure if some genius works out he can abuse this to get the person to install a virus14:55
Trixar_zaBut probably more secure than how Puppy is doing it...14:55
Trixar_zaYep, this is the stuff I think about while lying awake at 5am14:57
smile:p15:42
nuvolari.15:59
nuvolarihelo15:59
nuvolarimaaz: seen kilos16:03
Maaz_nuvolari: kilos was last seen 5 hours and 49 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-08-07 13:02:44 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-08-07 13:20:32 SAST16:03
nuvolariha16:27
nuvolarihier is oom Kilos 16:27
nuvolaribrb16:28
nuvolariack :-/16:28
Kilosyo nuvolari 16:29
Kilosand others16:29
nuvolarihi oom :>16:29
Trixar_zaHey nuvolari and Kilos16:29
nuvolariek't nou nou gou vir 8ta gebel16:29
Kilosjust finished a clean install16:29
nuvolarien die data ding gedoen16:29
nuvolarihi Trixar_za 16:29
Kilosmooi man16:29
Kilossien jy nou daai 2+1 bundle op die foon?16:30
Trixar_zaIs jy ook op 8ta?16:30
Kiloshi Trixar_za 16:30
Kilosja16:30
nuvolarinog nie gekyk nie oom Kilos 16:30
nuvolariTrixar_za: jip16:30
nuvolariweet nie hoekom ek dit nie vroër gedoen het nie16:30
Kilosek kon nie die 2+1 sien nie tot hulle my sim geaktiveer het nie16:31
Kilosjou kop is te besig met ander goed man16:31
Kilosjy mis dit wat eintlik belangrik is16:32
Kiloshehe16:32
nuvolarihoe nou oom?16:32
* nuvolari mis daai punt ook lyk dit my16:32
Kilosjy weet al maande dat jy 8ta moet probeer16:32
nuvolarioh... dit ja...16:33
* nuvolari sê niks16:33
* nuvolari tel die pennies wat hy in die water gegooi het16:33
nuvolarisjoe, ek kon 'n plaas koop16:33
smilebye :)16:33
Kiloslmga ja amper ne16:33
Kiloshulle het ook daai groot bondle16:34
nuvolarimaar dis op kontrak, dan nie?16:34
nuvolaribyebye smile 16:34
Kilos60m + 60m na 11nm vir R1600 n jaar ek dink16:34
Kilos60g +60g16:34
Kilosskuus16:34
Kilosek dink banlam het dit16:35
nuvolaridis soos 5Gb 'n maand16:36
Kilosen 5g na 1116:36
* nuvolari pik 'n traan16:36
nuvolaridit klink so mooi16:36
Kilosmaar mens moet slaap ook16:36
Kilosdie na ure een kan jy vreet naweke en innie dag slaap16:37
Kilosnou moet ek van voor af begin daai klank kaart aan die gang kry16:39
nuvolari:-/16:40
Kiloslol16:40
nuvolarimaar oom het seker dit neergeskryf?16:40
Kilosas mens dom is moet jy sukkel16:40
Kilosnee ek het so baie goed probeer16:40
Kilosweet nie watter een dit gedoen het nie16:40
Kiloshierdie keer sal ek n ander stel speakers in daai gat inplug en dan dinge een vir een toets terwyl musiek speel16:42
Kilosen n backup doen sodra dit werk16:42
Kiloshehe16:42
Kilosdom donner16:42
Kilosdit het kapok hier vandag nuvolari 16:44
Kilosvrek koud16:44
nuvolarijoh16:45
nuvolaridis oom wat die yskas oop vergeet het!16:45
Kiloslol16:45
nuvolariek sit en vries my tone af16:45
Kilosen in jhb en rustenburg16:45
Kilosdink vandag was max 1016:45
Kilosen -2 innie oggend16:46
nuvolarimensig!16:46
nuvolarioom het seker vloreer op koffie?16:46
Kilosbaie tee en koppie sop of drie16:46
nuvolarihmm, nou is ek ewe skielik lus vir sop16:48
Kiloslol16:48
Kiloshey superfly all good there?16:49
Kilosmissed you guys today16:49
superflyKilos: ya, just got back from another trip to the doctor16:50
Kilosgood news i hope superfly 16:50
Kilosgive my best to mrs_fly  too16:51
Kilosseems like sflr is sick again too16:51
magespawnevening all16:54
nuvi2heh, hulle lieg16:55
nuvi2g'n adsl nie16:55
Kiloshi magespawn 16:56
Kilosclean install twice16:56
magespawnyou?16:57
Kilosmobile broadband disappeared completely when i went off this morning16:57
magespawnhectic16:58
Kilosso did a clean install but didnt format /home and same prob so clean install again16:58
magespawnbut you are up and running again now?16:58
Kilosyeah just need to get everything going again16:59
Kilosrsync of archives is such a blessing16:59
magespawnindeed16:59
Kiloscan clean install and update for like 15m and upgrade for 5m17:00
Kilosi go eat17:00
magespawnlater17:00
nuvolariooh! seems we did well in the javelin throw17:01
nuvolari*women's javelin17:01
magespawngold?17:01
nuvolaridunno, waiting for the news to get to the sport section17:02
magespawnlooks like sa is doing quite well all round17:03
nuvolariyeah17:03
nuvolariI googled, it seems like after 2 heats we're 3rd17:03
nuvolari*Sunette Viljoen is 3rd17:03
nuvolaricame 1st in her heat17:04
magespawni was quite disappointed that they do not put more video online.17:04
magespawngood for her17:05
Kerberosupersport is useless17:05
Kerberostole youtube's contract for SA17:05
Trixar_zaKilos: When in doubt, use sakis3g17:05
Trixar_zaMind you, it didn't work for 8ta17:05
Trixar_zaBut I made my own version and compiled in some more devices17:06
Trixar_za:p17:06
Trixar_zahttp://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=594717:07
Trixar_zaYes, I was bored one day :/17:07
zerefsigh, res electricity keeps cutting17:19
KilosTrixar_za, my prob is the auto connect block doesnt remember to auto connect so if you can hack 12.04's nm to remember that and once you enable broadband to remember that then you done good17:22
Kilosat least launchpad is mailing me for more info but bug is still not a priority bug17:23
magespawndoes any one know if need a special editor to edit /etc/sudoers?17:27
nuvolarimagespawn: visudo17:28
magespawnI am reading Fedora Unleashed and that is what it says, just wanted to check as this one is a bit old.17:29
nuvolarimagespawn: I'm not aware of a different app to use17:30
magespawnty nuvolari 17:32
magespawnKerbero: have these people not worked out that ppl can get past area restrictions through the net and if you want people to see something the net is the best way to do it?17:37
=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
Kiloseish now to install and setup ibid again18:22
nuvolaribrr18:31
nuvolariit's freezing18:31
Kiloshehe18:31
theblazeHey guys what happened to smile?18:31
Kiloshe gone to bed18:31
theblazeAh OK18:31
Kiloshe goes off early18:31
Kiloshe is in the netherlands18:32
theblazeI see18:32
theblazeI know18:32
nuvolariwhat what? I also wanna see18:32
CantideI'm considering sleeping simply because my bed is warm :)18:32
nuvolariCantide: a very good idea18:32
theblazeBtw on going to try Ann go on more often.  My marshal has been baconed18:32
Kilosyeah good idea hey Cantide 18:33
theblazeAnd*18:33
theblazeMarshal*18:33
Kiloshuh?18:33
theblazeNvm u don't Reddit18:33
Kilosno18:33
Cantide"huh" is also my response :p18:34
Kiloshehe18:34
Kiloshowzit theblaze 18:34
theblazeI'm good and use18:35
theblazeU*18:35
Kiloswe cold but good ty18:35
theblazeDamn autocorrect18:35
theblazeYeah me18:35
theblaze218:35
charlvnKilos: actually smile is flemish, he lives in belgium18:35
charlvnbesides, we are on the same time zone as you in the summer :)18:36
charlvnand it's summer and the sun hasn't even gone down yet18:36
Kiloslol same thing charlvn 18:36
Kiloshehe18:36
Kilosforeign18:36
Kiloseuropean18:36
charlvnehm, no :P18:36
Kiloswhy are you so quiet?18:36
charlvnsorry i've just been busy18:36
Kilosnp18:36
Kilosjust dont forget us18:37
charlvnhave been crazy busy at work the past while18:37
Kiloswe will hunt you down18:37
charlvnlol no i promise i won't :P18:37
charlvn:D18:37
Kilosbusy is good,time flies18:37
charlvni hear you people are having quite a bit of snow down there18:37
charlvnusually it is us with the snow18:37
Kiloswhew not good18:38
charlvnfor us it has actually been quite a hot summer18:38
Kiloscold wet messy stuff18:38
charlvnyuck!18:38
charlvnno i hate that type of snow18:38
charlvnthat's not good18:38
charlvnit's called sleet or something i think in english18:38
charlvnthe english apparently have a lot of that weather but i don't know, i have only been to england once18:38
Kilosyeah here in pta but lotsa places have deep snow18:38
charlvnyeah that's what i hear18:38
Kilospeeps are skiing in lesotho18:39
charlvnthat's quite unusual though right?18:39
* nuvolari likes the warmer weather of durbs18:39
Kilosno we just past midwinter18:39
Kilosjune 21 is midwinter18:39
charlvnah18:39
charlvnyeah makes sense18:39
nuvolarithe only time I am healthy enough to go out into the snow back home, and I sit here :( 18:39
Kiloslol18:40
nuvolarievery single time back home when it was snowing, I had flu so I couldn't go out18:40
charlvni hate it though when the ground freezes and you start slipping18:40
Kilosbest place to see snow is on the idiot box18:40
charlvni don't mind the snow so much but the ice on the ground i don't like at all :(18:41
charlvnKilos: ah, you mean the TV? :)18:41
charlvni like that, idiot box18:41
Kilosyeah charlvn 18:41
charlvnit feels like it, most of the programming seems to be for dumb people18:41
Kilosyip18:41
Kilosbrain washing tool18:41
charlvnbrainwashing... it's what they call "mass intertainment" Kilos :)18:42
charlvn*entertainment18:42
Kilospeeps get so into tv they talk as if they were there when things happened18:42
charlvnkeeping the masses dumb and the politicians rich18:42
Kiloslol18:42
charlvnby the way, today i used expect for the first time18:46
Kilosexpect?18:46
charlvnto do a test to interactively upload a file via sftp with a hard-coded password (very wrong btw)18:46
charlvnwe tried to do it the right way (tm) by doing it with ppk authentication18:47
charlvnbut we couldn't even open a remote shell and scp didn't want to work either18:47
charlvnall that works is sftp with a password18:47
Kilosis all of that good or bad?18:48
charlvnexpect is basically is an interactive scripting language18:48
Kilosah18:48
Kiloshey you clever guys18:48
charlvna bit like bash scripting but you can invoke commands and then talk to them in interactive mode18:48
charlvna bit like what a user would do but then using scripting18:48
charlvnso you invoke sftp with some parameters18:48
charlvnthen "expect" it to prompt you for a password, and when it does, you feed it the password18:49
charlvnthen you "expect" a prompt like "sftp>" and when you get it, you feed the sftp commands like mput etc you want18:49
charlvnwhen that's done, you "expect" another "sftp>" prompt and you exit18:49
Kilosif i rsync /home/from my maverick to /home/ 12.04 what about all the stuff thats irrelivant18:49
charlvnhmmm, what exactly do you want to take over18:50
charlvnif you include all the hidden directories in your home directory you will take all your configuration with you18:50
charlvnmost of it will probably work fine but there could be some hickups, perhaps18:50
charlvni would just take all my actual documents like my ~/Documents directory etc across18:50
Kiloslotsa settings as in email ibid sound etc etc18:50
charlvnah yeah18:50
charlvnwell it is a bit of a gamble but it depends on the application18:51
charlvnmost applications try to strive for backwards compatibility with older config files18:51
charlvnsometimes it goes wrong though, or an application decides to adopt a whole different configuration format18:51
charlvni had a few cases where applications decided to convert their config format from yaml to xml for example18:51
charlvnbut that isn't typically the case18:51
Kilosbecause for starters it was the only way i could get 9 workspaces on 12.0418:52
charlvnah18:52
Kilosi battle with only 418:52
charlvnyou could always trim out those config files or do something manually if you need to18:52
charlvnit usually isn't a bad thing to bring everything across, i just tend not to do it for some reason18:52
Kiloslike to have things on their own space with a terminal as well18:52
charlvni guess i like starting fresh every so often18:53
Kilosok now is there a way to clean out the unused stuff in home automatically18:53
nuvolariBwahahahah! "Keyboard not found! Press ENTER to continue."18:53
charlvnnot that i'm aware of no18:54
Kiloshehe18:54
charlvnmaybe there are some cool tools out there but not that i've seen18:54
charlvnnuvolari: nice one :)18:54
Kilosbecause if you show hidden files there are stacks18:54
charlvnprobably that happens because the error handling is generic in the programming code18:54
charlvnand it always appends "press enter to continue" to any error18:54
Kiloswhat does this generic mean18:55
charlvnreusable, a standard way of doing something18:55
Kilosoh ty18:55
charlvnso you can re-use the same bit of code to handle any error for example18:55
charlvntypical programming term18:55
charlvnnp18:55
charlvnok i'm off, have a good evening all!18:56
Kilosi think i gonna do it and if im missing tomorrow then it didnt work well and im clean installing again18:56
Kilosnight charlvn 18:56
Kilosi go crash as well18:57
Kilosnight nuvolari and all others18:57
Kilossleep tight and warm18:57
nuvolarinight oom Kilos 18:57
nuvolarilekker slaap18:57
* nuvolari is not far behind18:57
Kilosjy ook dankie seun18:57
Squirmits snowing again19:36
Squirmtomorrow will be white19:36
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