[00:00] <danielboston26> PRabyte You can disable luks password prompt at boot by adding "rd_NO_LUKS" kernel flag to grub.conf
[00:00] <PRabyte> ZzBomb: that leads me to the next question lol... i dont know how to create new volumes exactly in cmdline, usually i use a gui. im just trying to access this server via usb loaded with next os im going to load, the luks pw is stopping me
[00:00] <lsoccer169> aha I found an article on it but this is what I get
[00:00] <lsoccer169> GNU GRUB version 1.99-21ubuntu3
[00:00] <lsoccer169> Minimal bash-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions.
[00:00] <danielboston26> that comes from a fedora help file but im sure its not any different in ubuntu
[00:01] <PRabyte> danielboston26: yah!! where, grub.cfg? syntax please. thanks
[00:01] <ZzBomb> PRabyte: for something like that I would likely use something like a live gparted disk to avoid the conflict of editing from the disk
[00:01] <PRabyte> i read that a few moments ago, add it to /etc/default/grub right?
[00:01] <PRabyte> then update grub
[00:02] <lsoccer169> So I am going to read up on this and get back to you if I solve it
[00:02] <TJ-> lsoccer169: What does typing "ls" at the GRUB prompt report?
[00:02] <danielboston26> in /etc PRabyte
[00:02] <ZzBomb> ah that would be way easier
[00:02] <PRabyte> ZzBomb: you cant load anything via usb or cd when luks is running
[00:02] <PRabyte> dan i know its in etc
[00:02] <PRabyte> im saying syntax
[00:02] <lsoccer169> you know I did not try that
[00:02] <ZzBomb> Really? I did not realize luks locks your bios?
[00:03] <PRabyte> ZzBomb: it wont allow usb boot, i tried with 2 diff usb drives
[00:03] <PRabyte> luks is definitely doing its job
[00:03] <PRabyte> just want to disable, then i can wipe
[00:03] <ZzBomb> Well that's assuming your using the boot loader to load your usb drives and not your bios
[00:03] <ZzBomb> luks or anything like it should not prevent you from booting live disks
[00:04] <PRabyte> danielboston26: whats the syntax for rd_NO_LUKS? where to put in grub file
[00:04] <PRabyte> or a link howto
[00:04] <PRabyte> ill look brb
[00:04] <TJ-> LUKS won't prevent reading anything that isn't encrypted with LUKS
[00:04] <danielboston26> PRabyte it doesn't say
[00:04] <PRabyte> i know, lolol, thats the frustrating part
[00:05] <PRabyte> people put up howtos, but they are incomplete
[00:05] <PRabyte> just do this or that,,, blah blah
[00:05] <PRabyte> ill find it somewhere
[00:05] <PRabyte> brb
[00:05] <PRabyte> here is an ex: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-278046.html
[00:05] <danielboston26> ya i know it stinks
[00:06] <PRabyte> but thats fedora, might be little things not the same on ubuntu server and grub, they already changed the conf to cfg and put in defaults..
[00:06] <PRabyte> im old skool
[00:06] <PRabyte> i just modified grub in /boot
[00:06] <danielboston26> PRabyte can you reformat the disk?
[00:06] <PRabyte> cant do jack until i remove that passphrase
[00:07] <PRabyte> im going to try the http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-278046.html option
[00:07] <TJ-> PRabyte: Sounds like you've got full-disk encryption
[00:07] <PRabyte> opps rd_no_lucs
[00:07] <PRabyte> yah exactly
[00:07] <PRabyte> might have to break out my freebsd boot disks
[00:07] <danielboston26> did you forget your passphrase?
[00:07] <PRabyte> no i did not
[00:08] <PRabyte> its a test server, im going from 10 to 12.04
[00:08] <caixa> are the open source nvidia drivers any good
[00:08] <PRabyte> its basically a logger box
[00:08] <danielboston26> well if you know the passphrase unlock the disk then just reformat it
[00:08] <PRabyte> i was just trying out luks, figured out lots of stuff today, but to remove, well, thats where we are at present
[00:08] <myk_robinson> evening all. Need some help with Java and Chrome. I keep getting the error that Chrome could not load IcedTea-Web plugin
[00:08] <danielboston26> that will get rid of encrptyion
[00:09] <PRabyte> give me step by step, ill try it.
[00:09] <TJ-> PRabyte: So you'd boot the system normally, then find a small amount of spare disk space by shrinking existing file systems, then you can shrink the encrypted primary partition... then use the spare on the end of the disk to create a ~400MB /boot partition for the kernels, initrd, etc., boot using those then you've got room to move the other data around to create space to unencrypt the rest
[00:09] <PRabyte> how you would do it, your tools utils disks so forth syntax
[00:09] <PRabyte> TJ then delete it? there are still fstab and crypttab entries, and dmsetup stuff.. huh?
[00:09] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: which releases are you using?
[00:10] <PRabyte> there is much more to luks than assumed
[00:10] <PRabyte> brb
[00:10] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: and what is the context of when the error occurs? particular page or just always?
[00:10] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: Ubuntu 12.04 and IcedTea 7 Plugin. I think I may have just found that a lot of people are having the same problem
[00:10] <PRabyte> thanks, all input is greatly appreciated, im considering all options, trust me, you are not wasting your breath
[00:10] <PRabyte> br
[00:10] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: as of late, any page that requires a Java plugin. Works fine in Firefox, seems to be isolated to Chrome, I cant even run the test page that checks to see if you have java
[00:10] <TJ-> PRabyte: It's a big job for even an expert... requires a lot of thinking about consquences. If you just want to do it easily, I'd recommend you attach a second unencrypted drive and use 'dd' to clone each of your unencrypted file-systems over to it.
[00:11] <PRabyte> correct
[00:11] <PRabyte> i dont really care about the data
[00:11] <PRabyte> just geting usb to boot new os
[00:11] <PRabyte> ;)
[00:11] <PRabyte> brb
[00:11] <TJ-> PRabyte: When  I do encryption, I always do it per-file-system not whole-disk... makes things much more felxible
[00:11] <myk_robinson> Bug 1031857
[00:11] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: ah lame. I have not had an issues with my version. Although I think I am running an unstable chrome..... checking my details
[00:12] <TJ-> PRabyte: To boot from the USB, you likely need to go into the PC's BIOS configuration and change the boot order temporarily. If possible, remove the internal hard disk totally from the boot device search sequence.
[00:12] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: ah nope, im running stable come. and iced tea 6. So I guess you could try switching down a version. 7 might just suck
[00:13] <PRabyte> TJ not the issue
[00:13] <PRabyte> thanks
[00:13] <PRabyte> been there
[00:13] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: i thought that as well, although 7 used to work just fine. I uninstall, then try to install 6 and cant.. Let me try again so I can document the error message
[00:13] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: good idea
[00:13] <PRabyte> why the heck did ubuntu mess with grub confs...... my gawd
[00:13] <myk_robinson> although looking at the bug report, it affects people iwth 6 too.
[00:13] <ZzBomb> hm weird
[00:13] <PRabyte> take a simple thing and make it difficult. sheshhh
[00:13] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: maybe you haven't updated, looks like this bug report popped up about 5 days ago after a java plugin update
[00:14] <PRabyte> wth,,, 10_linux huh? why did they do that....
[00:14] <ZzBomb> I just updated everything like 30 minutes ago. im on latest. But have not tried using the java plugin.... link me to a page with a jar? I honestly cant think of anything that I use that uses java... it's like the plague.
[00:15] <myk_robinson> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[00:15] <myk_robinson> its to test your java version
[00:15] <Conbaal> Hey guys, I'm having trouble trying to get ubuntu onto an IBM Thinkapad.  When I load the 12.04 disc into the drive and attempt to install, it stalls on a purple screen with a small person in a circle at the bottom center.
[00:15] <PRabyte> omg! there is 100 files in /boot/grub... sighs... ill try this later, i gotta go, thanks for the more advanced suggestions, i appreciate it
[00:15] <PRabyte> l8
[00:16] <ZzBomb> Ah naturally the java test page.
[00:16] <ZzBomb> Lol
[00:16] <ZzBomb> loading...
[00:17] <ZzBomb> Not crashed but does not seem to be working.... investigating.
[00:17] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: try the same page in Firefox
[00:17] <ZzBomb> kk
[00:17] <ZzBomb> firefox works
[00:18] <ZzBomb> albeit it says im outdated since 6.0
[00:18] <myk_robinson> I get the same results with IcedTea 6.
[00:18] <ZzBomb> well 6
[00:18] <ZzBomb> hm ok
[00:18] <myk_robinson> 6 and 7, works with Firefox, not with Chrome
[00:18] <rypervenche> myk_robinson: Long time no see :)
[00:18] <ZzBomb> are you x86 or 64?
[00:18] <myk_robinson> rypervenche: been a while, looked for you on here the other day
[00:18] <ZzBomb> java's had longstanding issues w/ 64
[00:19] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: x86. My findings seem to mirror the bug report
[00:19] <myk_robinson> It worked fine last week, I guess maybe an update hosed something, and will likely be fixed soon
[00:19] <ZzBomb> I'm 64
[00:19] <myk_robinson> Wow, I'm only 35 :)
[00:19] <ZzBomb> Badumpsh.
[00:19] <myk_robinson> c'mon, that was kinda funny...
[00:19] <ZzBomb> I'm going to play w/ chrome a bit to see if I can get it to scream at all
[00:20] <marrriam> hello everyone
[00:21] <danielboston26> hello marriam
[00:21] <myk_robinson> ZzBomb: for whatever, its worth, here's what I get:    http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/6hcrty76/HowdoItestwhetherJavaisworkingonmyco.png
[00:21] <hillshum> ZzBomb: The <scream> tag? :P
[00:21] <marrriam> how r u???
[00:21] <danielboston26> im good
[00:21] <ZzBomb> hillshum: ;D
[00:21] <ZzBomb> myk_robinson: I cant get mine to do that even, it just stays white
[00:21] <marrriam> whats up dude???
[00:22] <danielboston26> nothing
[00:22] <danielboston26> chillin
[00:22] <marrriam> hmmm good
[00:23] <marrriam> hmmm...keep it dear..
[00:23] <dwarder> clonezilla is awesome
[00:23] <ZzBomb> anyone know any good tools for network quality analysis?  iwspy is not compatible w/ my kernel :(
[00:23] <ZzBomb> *wireless network
[00:24] <myk_robinson> wireshark?
[00:24] <dudewhat> aireplay-ng
[00:24] <danielboston26> was just going to suggest wireshark
[00:26] <ZzBomb> i dont want to analyze the packets on the network. I want actual signal quality.
[00:26] <ZzBomb> it's likely too much to ask due to firmware and whatever. I think ill just use my phone
[00:27] <ZzBomb> only issue with phone is it does not do wireless n
[00:27] <andlinux> HOLA
[00:27] <andlinux> ho
[00:27] <andlinux> jola
[00:27] <andlinux> hola
[00:27] <FloodBot1> andlinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <andlinux> como estan
[00:27] <andlinux> hi
[00:27] <danielboston26> its como estas
[00:27] <andlinux> hi
[00:27] <Samanagh> Any idea why empathy's not playing notification sounds? Even though I have 'em ticked in preferences
[00:27] <danielboston26> not como sstan
[00:27] <danielboston26> estan
[00:27] <andlinux> aca provando mi XCHAT
[00:28] <ZzBomb> Samanagh: restarted it yet?
[00:28] <Samanagh> ZzBomb yar
[00:29] <ZzBomb> Samanagh: check pulse to see if the application is muted for some reason?
[00:29] <ZzBomb> well Sound settings.
[00:29] <Oxnard_Dogg> i tried ubuntu 12.04 before,.,,,but it didn't recognize my broadcom b43 wireless adpater
[00:31] <Oxnard_Dogg> how can i get ubuntu 12.04  to  recognize my broadcom b43 wireless adpater
[00:33] <Oxnard_Dogg> i tried some puppy linux,,and they recognized my broadcom b43
[00:33] <Samanagh> ZzBomb: Had sound effects turned off in sound settings, didn't realize that controlled other applications
[00:34] <ZzBomb> Samanagh: Ah yea, ive done it a few time it's annoying
[00:34] <ZzBomb> My favorite though is recently pulse has been freezing on my desktop and audio will just not be adjustable for like... 30 seconds or so
[00:34] <Samanagh> Can you use VNC clients over different distros/OS? Like if I wanted to control my Ubuntu distro from say my Win8 or Lubuntu distro? (VNC noob)
[00:34] <ZzBomb> Samanagh: yes
[00:34] <ZzBomb> you can do it between linux/win/mac if you want
[00:35] <caixa> is nvidia powermizer for laptops only?
[00:35] <ZzBomb> caixa: why would it be? likely for anything nvidia
[00:35] <ZzBomb> caixa: although most people dont regulate power as much on a desktop
[00:37] <caixa> ZzBomb, it came with my nvidia recommended driver and the power levels are causing me lag, is there a way to modify the power levels?
[00:38] <ZzBomb> caixa: check the nvidia control panel, i believe there are several power settings in there.
[00:38] <onetwo> hey guys, pls i need some help, anyone here knows Kubuntu?
[00:38] <ZzBomb> caixa: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/nvidiapanel.png/
[00:38] <onetwo> pls guys i need some help, anyone here knows Kubuntu?
[00:38] <ZzBomb> onetwo: join #kubuntu?
[00:39] <caixa> ZzBomb, yeah that is what i have, the change from 50mhz lags compiz for me
[00:39] <ZzBomb> caixa: ah, lame
[00:39] <caixa> ZzBomb, is there a way to drop level 0 from the equation?
[00:39] <ZzBomb> caixa: no idea, out of my league
[00:40] <ZzBomb> caixa: this looks like it may tell you though http://guilleml.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/nvidia-powermizer-on-linux/
[00:44] <are> hi
[00:44] <Guest84841> need some help with a wireless nic on 12.04 LTS, rookie here, am i in the right place?
[00:46] <sfears> hi are
[00:46] <arevee> hi there
[00:46] <ZzBomb> arevee: might have better luck searching forums. Most nic issues have already been solved there...
[00:46] <ZzBomb> arevee: you would have to be very lucky to find someone here w/ the same card
[00:46] <sfears> arevee: have you enabled the restricted drivers?
[00:47] <arevee> yes sfears did that
[00:47] <arevee> it says activated
[00:47] <sfears> what's your issue?
[00:47] <arevee> it isn't seeing my wireless network
[00:47] <arevee> i am presently on it through ethernet
[00:47] <ZzBomb> I assume other devices can see the network?
[00:48] <arevee> yes, same nic can when booted in win 7
[00:48] <arevee> yes other devices can perfectly fine.
[00:48] <sfears> have you tried to connect to hidden network and manually type the network name in?
[00:48] <sfears> can you see any networks?
[00:49] <arevee> nothing, isnt there a command line to show if the drivers are loaded correctly?
[00:50] <arevee> yea zz, other devices all see it fine... i think im doing something very moronic
[00:50] <arevee> don't know how to tell :)
[00:50] <arevee> very simple
[00:50] <DarkAceZ> synaptix, o/
[00:51] <JustSighDudes> My ssh connection keeps dropping. Is screen/tmux gonna make this less annoying? Or are they going to hang when my connection drops?
[00:52] <sfears> arevee: click on manage networks
[00:52] <arevee> ok
[00:52] <trism> JustSighDudes: you'll be able to reattach after you reconnect your session
[00:52] <sfears> arevee: manage connections/add/scan
[00:53] <arevee> hmm , how do i go to manage network? (I see network connections on the top right corner, sorry dude.. rookie)
[00:53] <JustSighDudes> trism: Awesome. Any major differences between the two if I'm only using them to keep a persistent session?
[00:53] <eagle_eye> JustSignDudes: screen/tmux will help keep your current IRC session
[00:54] <sfears> arevee: can you right click maybe?
[00:54] <sfears> i'm not using ubuntu right now so I'm not 100%
[00:54] <trism> JustSighDudes: not really, though I usually prefer tmux these days
[00:54] <ZzBomb> I think ya'll are looking for 'edit connections' then wireless tab?
[00:54] <arevee> i have enable networking, edit connections?
[00:55] <eagle_eye> JustSignDudes: none that I can think of
[00:55] <arevee> yea i am ther Zzbomb, i have the network pop up, and on the wireless tab
[00:55] <ZzBomb> im just guessing. Going to go back to staring at a wall now
[00:55] <sfears> yeah arevee, edit connections
[00:55] <sfears> there should be an add button, and then a scan button
[00:55] <arevee> ok there, the ssid is entered, mode is infrastructure, everything else is blank, i see nothing to scan.. the 4 tabs are wireless, ipv4, ipv6, wiress security
[00:56] <sfears> under the wireless tab
[00:56] <eagle_eye> !who | Zzbomb
[00:56] <ZzBomb> eagle_eye: ?
[00:57] <eagle_eye> Hey!
[00:57] <sfears> there should be a scan button in there somewhere arevee
[00:57] <ZzBomb> eagle_eye: HI!
[00:57] <ZzBomb> sfears: I think they took it out of recent versions
[00:57] <arevee> bummer.. i see no scan buttom Zzbomb/sfears :(
[00:59] <ZzBomb> arevee, sfears: just tested. Another way to view them is via unity search for 'network' it'll open a control panel for Network, w/ left tabs. Wireless is one of tabs. Click there and it autoscans and lists them in a dropdown.
[00:59] <sfears> ^^
[00:59] <arevee> dude awesome, checking..
[00:59] <arevee> unity search..
[01:00] <TJ-> arevee: You can trigger a WiFi scan manually from a terminal command-line. You'd do "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" (if the WiFi interface name on your PC is 'wlan0' )
[01:00] <ZzBomb> I disconnected when I accidentally selected a different network. Whoops.
[01:00] <ZzBomb> TJ-: Oh awesome
[01:01] <arevee> umm so i don't think the os is seeing my wireless card...
[01:01] <arevee> how can i check? under network tools it only sees the lo and eth0
[01:01] <ZzBomb> arevee: well there's your problem
[01:01] <ZzBomb> :x
[01:01] <TJ-> arevee: Now you need the terminal!
[01:02] <arevee> ok, dudes, i owe you all a drink, i have terminal open, now what? :)
[01:02] <Enkwi> Hello people
[01:02] <TJ-> arevee: Can you pastebin the results of doing "lspci -nn | grep Network"  ?
[01:02] <kesleyfortunato> Hello :3
[01:02] <TJ-> !pastebin >arevee
[01:02] <ZzBomb> arevee: before we start. Does your laptop have a button for enabling/disabling the wireless card? Many have them as part of a function key.
[01:03] <arevee> yea zzbomb i checked all that, and it all seems to be fine (not in power save mode, not disabled etc, not asleep..)  ubottu, how do i check private message? sorry
[01:03] <TJ-> !pastebin
[01:04] <arevee> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312] (rev 01)
[01:04] <Enkwi> I am starting to learn PHP so I install XAMPP and then when I start it it says Another web server daemon is already running.... but idk what is running
[01:04] <dylan> any tips on what to do about this? http://pastebin.com/mamfRuwG
[01:05] <TJ-> arevee: That Broadcom BCM43xx is infamous for Broadcom not providing drivers... users on Linux end up jumping through hoops to sort it out, mostly
[01:05] <arevee> arghh.. TJ...
[01:05] <ZzBomb> Yarrrr broadcom
[01:05] <ZzBomb> Lol https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[01:05] <arevee> am i basically screwed? i really want to give up windoze!!!
[01:05] <ZzBomb> arevee: not screwed. Check out my link
[01:05] <arevee> ok, reading..
[01:06] <mwmnj_> HEy all
[01:06] <ZzBomb> arevee: You're in luck. Looks like so many people have had that issue there is an entire doc page devoted to it
[01:06] <mwmnj_> I don't have any dvds at the moment
[01:06] <mwmnj_> Can I load an external hdd with ubuntu then use that to install it?
[01:06] <mwmnj_> It is a 1tb fantom hdd
[01:07] <arevee> i will try ZzBomb et al., thanks for the pointers
[01:07] <ZzBomb> mwmnj_: if your system can boot the disk via usb. Sure. That's very motherboard dependent.
[01:07] <GH0> Is there a specific program that needs to be added to manipulate 7zip programs in Arks?
[01:08] <mwmnj_> Do I need to format the hdd in any special way, or can I just throw the iso on there as any other file?
[01:08] <TJ-> arevee: You might also find the answers here of use (the latest ones look most useful) http://askubuntu.com/questions/125529/wireless-doesnt-work-on-a-broadcom-bcm4312
[01:08] <GH0> As f right now, I can't open anything with a standard install.
[01:08] <ZzBomb> mwmnj_: and I've actually never tried w/ an external usb harddrive. So who knows. I am assuming that's possible.
[01:08] <Guest84917> arevee: what's your problem boy? I have "02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)" and runs pretty smooth on 12.04 and previous ubuntu releases
[01:08] <Oxnard_Dogg> how can i get ubuntu 12.04  to  recognize my broadcom b43 wireless adpater?
[01:08] <ZzBomb> GH0: you need to install the 7zip package
[01:08] <TJ-> mwmnj_: No: A .iso file is like a ZIP file ... it has to be extracted and written to a hard disk to be useful
[01:09] <ZzBomb> GH0: although it looks like libarchive12 which is standard should work as well.
[01:09] <mwmnj_> TJ: is that possible to do with this hardrive?
[01:09] <GH0> What is the 7zip package? Because if I try to do sudo apt-get install 7zip, nothing is presented as an option. I will try libarchive12
[01:09] <ZzBomb> GH0: try installing p7zip-full, it may be required by ark
[01:09] <GH0> Hm. :( Libarchive12 is already installed.
[01:09] <mwmnj_> a hard drive is  hard drive isn't it?
[01:10] <szal> GH0: try p7zip
[01:10] <TJ-> mwmnj_: Are you using Ubuntu on the PC right now, or working from Windows?
[01:10] <ZzBomb> GH0: g7zip-full is the package name
[01:10] <GH0> Ah, alright, then yeah, it was p7zip.
[01:10] <szal> other than that, 'apt-cache search' exists ;)
[01:10] <mwmnj_> I have 11.10 on it right now
[01:10] <ZzBomb> szal: and it is glorious
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj_, no usb thumb?
[01:11] <GH0> Alright, cool, thanks everyone.
[01:11] <mwmnj_> wilee-nilee: nope
[01:11] <mwmnj_> TJ-: but my connection is too slow to download from my ubuntu
[01:11] <TJ-> mwmnj_: You should use something like usbcreator to write the ISO file's contents and bootloader to an external device. You can use a hard disk for that as well as a USB flash storage device
[01:13] <anlarye> i'm attempting to install handbrake on ubuntu 12.04 ... i have the ppa added correctly. i can find handbrake in synaptic but when i click on the dependencies tab in synaptic the last line shows "Conflicts: handbrake" and I'm wondering why
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[01:14] <Oxnard_Dogg> how can i get ubuntu 12.04  to  recognize my broadcom b43 wireless adpater?
[01:14] <ZzBomb> anlarye: Ooooo I remember having this issue. it has to do w/ versions I think you need to update source to use an older version precise is not availible yet
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[01:14] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, have you run a update after the ppa load
[01:14] <mwmnj_> ty
[01:15] <TJ-> mwmnj_: This guide looks just like you want but DONT just copy the instructions! Read it first and make sure to replace mentions of "/dev/sda1" with the correct device name of your EXTERNAL hard disk
[01:15] <anlarye> yes ran update after the ppa load
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj_, no problem you can boot the iso from grub
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, did you have handbrake installed already ios it installed now
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> is*
[01:15] <anlarye> no it is currently not installed
[01:16] <TJ-> anlarye: What does "apt-cache policy handbreak" report ?
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, try sudo apt-get install handbrake in a terminal/
[01:16] <ZzBomb> anlarye: switch the source to oneiric, the precise repo does not work yet
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> this ppa has precise did you load this one anlarye https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots/
[01:18] <ZzBomb> Perhaps it should work now....
[01:18] <ZzBomb> Last time I tried precise for handbrake it kept failing out on me
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> The ppa may not be loaded
[01:19] <DarkAceZ> how do I create a folder from the command line?
[01:19] <anlarye> wilee-nilee: yes i am using the snapshots for precise
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, did you try the terminal.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> do that and pastebin the whole thing
[01:20] <Maser> ZzBomb: can i get some help with ubuntu?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | anl
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, ^^^
[01:20]  * ZzBomb slaps Maser with a large trout
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Maser, don't ask just state the problem. :)
[01:21] <DarkAceZ> ooooookay, how do I restart a process? kill and start? or is it easier? :P
[01:22] <anlarye> wilee-nilee: the actual name is handbrake-gtk and that installs via terminal
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, cool. :)
[01:23] <TJ-> DarkAceZ: depends on the process... who is it owned by? is it a system service?
[01:23] <DarkAceZ> nautilus
[01:24] <anlarye> wilee-nilee: maybe not. i tried it once before and it gets to about 30% of a dvd rip and then my computer shuts down
[01:24] <DarkAceZ> it seems to randomly lock up, so I was going to assign a keyboard shortcut to restart it, only to find out I don't know how to restart a process, or if it's even possible...
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> anlarye, nopt sure I understand.
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> not*
[01:25] <TJ-> DarkAceZ: Use the "kill" command to send processes signals telling them to exit. You need the process id to use "kill" e.g. kill -TERM 1234. You can also use "killall <some-process-name>" e.g. killall nautilus
[01:25] <dylan> so, if I'm using my ethernet cable for internet, does that leave me free to use my internal wi-fi card thingy for other stuff?
[01:25] <dylan> kill -9 is force kill
[01:25] <DarkAceZ> TJ-, so there's no restart?
[01:25] <dylan> that should restart it
[01:25] <dylan> you could always write a short bash script
[01:26] <anlarye> wilee-nilee: i had handbrake installed but used the non shapshot PPA information, and i go to rip a DVD and everytime the DVD gets to about 30% of it ripped using handbrake my computer just turns completely off.
[01:26] <dylan> like "ps axco pid,command | grep "potato" | awk '{print $1}' | xargs kill -9
[01:26] <TJ-> DarkAceZ: When things lock up it's always useful to check the system log files for indications as to the root cause... checking the most recently updated log files using "ls -ltr /var/log/" is first step, followed by viewing the last few entries of a log file with "tail -n 50 /var/log/<some-file>"
[01:26] <anlarye> so now i'm going to try it with the snapshot version of the PPA instead and see if it crashes again.
[01:26] <rypervenche> anlarye: Are you looking at your computer's CPU temperature?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> I would not use it to rip just convert.
[01:26] <samholmes> Which image file should I use in VirtualBox for a ubuntu server?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> at least I never have.
[01:27] <anlarye> rypervenche: no but i havent ever had any trouble with temp before .... where do i go to see its temp rypervenche ?
[01:27] <TJ-> DarkAceZ: You can send some process the SIGHUP which will tell them to reinit... but it depends on whether the process itself implements that behaviour on receiving SIGHUP. e.g. kill -HUP 1234
[01:27] <rypervenche> anlarye: That depends on your hardware and kernel. The Ubuntu guys can help you with that.
[01:28] <anlarye> i'm using IRC on a different computer so i dont loose my connection in case of a crash just an FYI
[01:28] <danielboston26> i am trying to install 12.10 on my macbook pro retina and i get this error when i try to get into the installer
[01:28] <danielboston26> kernel panic - not syncing: timer doesn't work through
[01:28] <danielboston26> interrupt-remapped IO-APIC
[01:28] <danielboston26> followed by a bunch of code
[01:28] <danielboston26> anyway to fix?
[01:28] <FloodBot1> danielboston26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:28] <Oxnard_Dogg> how can i get ubuntu 12.04  to  recognize my broadcom b43 wireless adpater?
[01:29] <TJ-> anlarye: Might be worth checking the kern.log for indications of system failures. Look back through it for the time/date when the PC died, see what it was doing just beforehand and whether there is anything obviously reporting an error. You can use "Log File Viewer" for that
[01:29] <danielboston26> need driver Oxnard_Doug
[01:29] <Oxnard_Dogg> a limo driver?
[01:29] <danielboston26> do a google search for the excat model you have
[01:29] <TJ-> danielboston26: For 12.10 use the channel #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <danielboston26> and you should find it
[01:30] <Oxnard_Dogg> why doesn't it have the driver already>?
[01:30] <searcher> hellow
[01:30] <TJ-> Oxnard_Dogg: Because Broadcom do not release open source drivers that we can distribute
[01:30] <searcher> can you help me
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[01:30] <Oxnard_Dogg> ok TJ  wuts my  fix?
[01:30] <W4sp> Oxnard_Dogg: You can find information about your issue here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[01:31] <searcher> ohoh good bye
[01:31] <Oxnard_Dogg> they assume i use the install cdrom,,but i use the windows installer
[01:32] <danielboston26> wubi?
[01:32] <SilverZ> Could someone help me with a Broadcom 4311 wireless card issue?
[01:33] <TJ-> Looks like we have a rush of Broadcom BCM43xx users with issues today!
[01:33] <TJ-> !broadcom
[01:33] <danielboston26> silver2 as we told Oxnard broadcom does not issue drivers
[01:33] <danielboston26> you need to hunt around for them
[01:33] <Oxnard_Dogg> do ub have a wiored net connection silver2??
[01:33] <Oxnard_Dogg> do ub have a wired net connection silver2??
[01:33] <SilverZ> yes I'm using a wired connection right now
[01:34] <SilverZ> I read the various questions on the ubuntu page
[01:34] <Oxnard_Dogg> ur in good luck
[01:34] <danielboston26> usually googleing your excat model number and the version of ubuntu your using will fins it
[01:34] <SilverZ> I uninstalled and reinstalled various
[01:34] <SilverZ> drivers
[01:34] <danielboston26> ya its trial and error basically
[01:34] <SilverZ> I have the proprietary driver broadcom sta installed
[01:34] <SilverZ> and activated
[01:34] <szal> !tab | all, please adjust your IRC font such that you can tell letters (and numbers) apart
[01:34] <Oxnard_Dogg> do u have the install cdrom?
[01:34] <SilverZ> but when I do lspci -v it says <access denied> next to capabilities still
[01:35] <danielboston26> silver2 ya broadcom drivers are a hack
[01:35] <SilverZ> no kidding
[01:35] <danielboston26> since they don't open source their stuff
[01:35] <danielboston26> are you able to get a new adapter?
[01:35] <SilverZ> it worked on 10.04 lts but when I switched to 12.04 it went pfffftttt
[01:35] <SilverZ> it's internal
[01:35] <danielboston26> ah
[01:35] <Oxnard_Dogg> puppy linux makes them work..i wish i knew how
[01:35] <TJ-> SilverZ: You need to do "sudo lspci -v" - you need root privileges to view that additional info
[01:36] <SilverZ> i believe the problem is with the wifi on/off switch but I haven't found a fix yet
[01:36] <danielboston26> broadcom should be shot
[01:36] <SilverZ> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[01:36] <Oxnard_Dogg> puppy linux makes them work.anyway
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company BCM4311 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
[01:36] <danielboston26> can someone help me out with 12.10 issue?
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Memory at d6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Capabilities: [58] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Capabilities: [d0] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
[01:36] <FloodBot1> SilverZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <SilverZ> 	Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
[01:37] <SilverZ> 	Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
[01:37] <danielboston26> silver2 use paste bin
[01:37] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, pastebin!
[01:37] <SilverZ> gotcha
[01:37] <SilverZ> won't happen again
[01:37] <danielboston26> anyone helping with 12.10? there doesn't seem to be anyone home in their irc room
[01:38] <szal> danielboston26: use Tab key to auto-complete nicks; if you mistype someone's nick, chances are you don't get their attention
[01:38] <W4sp> Broadcom's President and CEO is Scott McGregor, you can address your view of their closed-source drivers to him.
[01:38] <szal> danielboston26: #ubuntu+1
[01:38] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, compat-wireless download and compile
[01:38] <joseph-soares> Hi, after install ubuntu 12.04, I installed GNOME-Shell. Now I'm trying to make screencasts with ctrl+alt+shift+r but it doesn't work.
[01:39] <BlessJah> i want to file bug against 'universal access preferences', how can i find out PID or binary that manages icon in status bar?
[01:39] <BlessJah> or the window?
[01:39] <danielboston26> szal: no one is responding to me
[01:39] <Oxnard_Dogg>  Broadcom's President and CEO wants to cgarge $ for his drivers?
[01:39] <SilverZ> gr33n700h do what now?
[01:39] <szal> danielboston26: what I just told you might be the exact reason for that
[01:39] <danielboston26> im not saying anyones name
[01:39] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, download latest compat-wireless and compile
[01:40] <danielboston26> i just ask my question no one has answered yet
[01:40] <szal> danielboston26: in what span of time?
[01:40] <BlessJah> danielboston26: you're asking about 12.10 related issue right?
[01:40] <SilverZ> ok, is that in the software center or internet search?
[01:40] <gr33n7007h> internet
[01:40] <wurble> Oxnard_Dogg: What?
[01:40] <BlessJah> danielboston26: i believe #ubuntu+1 is channel where you'll get help, as 12.10 isn't yet supported here
[01:40] <Oxnard_Dogg>  Broadcom's President and CEO wants to charge $ for his drivers?
[01:40] <danielboston26> yes BlessJah
[01:41] <danielboston26> szal: about 10 mins ago
[01:41] <szal> !patience | danielboston26
[01:42] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download/
[01:43] <SilverZ> I downloaded compat-wireless-3.5-1.tar.bz2 but how do I install it...
[01:44] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, thats not the lastest version
[01:44] <SilverZ> o
[01:44] <OerHeks> SilverZ, tar.bz2 is an archive, open it and see for the readme
[01:45] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, you need the 3.6
[01:45] <SilverZ> ok looking for it
[01:47] <SilverZ> i don't see 3.6
[01:48] <gr33n7007h> 1 sec i get the link
[01:48] <SilverZ> thanks.
[01:49] <c2tarun> hi friends anyone using openfire here for LAN chat?
[01:50] <joseph-soares> hello friends, did anybody take problem with screencast in gnome-shell
[01:51] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, ignore me thats the right one now extract with tar zxvf compat-wireless*
[01:51] <SilverZ> the 3.5 one?
[01:52] <gr33n7007h> yes
[01:52] <SilverZ> so i type       tar zxvf compat-wireless*       into terminal?
[01:53] <gr33n7007h> yes if thats where the download is
[01:53] <szal> SilverZ: yes, assuming that you are in the directory you downloaded the archive to
[01:54] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, broadcom a pain in the ?
[01:54] <SilverZ> yes it is
[01:55] <SilverZ> ok, I just extracted it from the folder window, but now what?
[01:56] <gr33n7007h> cd into the new folder it created
[01:58] <spartan7> Cannot connect to windows share after updates. failed to retrieve share list from server. Ubuntu 12.04- Can anyone help?
[01:58] <SilverZ> how do I command into that folder. I'm sorry I'm very terminal illiterate
[01:58] <tech1> cd
[01:59] <spartan7> SilverZ, why not use nautilus?
[02:00] <SilverZ> i tried cd plus folder name but it said no such file or directory, am I missing punctuation? cd compat-wireless-3.5-1
[02:00] <tech1> you mistyped the folder path then
[02:00] <szal> SilverZ: try tab-completing the dir name
[02:00] <tech1> its caps sensitive too
[02:01] <spartan7> +1 szal
[02:01] <tech1> and only put a "/" at the begining if you are using absolute path
[02:02] <SilverZ> is tab complete just typing and then hitting tab? bc that didn't work. what is an absolute path?
[02:02] <tech1> type "ls"   does it show compact-wireless-3.5-1
[02:03] <sakorty> hello
[02:03] <tech1> or "ls -a" if its a hidden folder, it shouldnt be though
[02:03] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, my fault SilverZ its bz2 the command is: tar jxvf compat-wireless-3.5-1.tar.bz2       try again
[02:03] <tech1> "ls" shows all the files/folders in the directory you are at/in the terminal
[02:03] <xbmcuser7> Hello, I am unable to get bluetooth on my laptop on XBMCbuntu 11 "Eden" (Based on Ubuntu 11.10). lspci correctly shows my Wi-Fi Bluetooth: Intel(R) PRO Wireless 4965AGN with Bluetooth
[02:04] <xbmcuser7> but rfkill doesn't show any bluetooth devices. The bluetooth module is running (as seen in lsmod)
[02:04] <SilverZ> ls nor ls -a showed the folder
[02:04] <SilverZ> going to try and move it and then see if I can see it
[02:04] <bonhoeffer> i can't install the foremost package -- anyone know the source i need to add?
[02:04] <tech1> then you are in the wrong directory
[02:05] <xbmcuser7> I tried upgrading my kernel to 3.6rc1 but that didn't change anything. I'll try 3.4.7 stable but I doubt it'll make a difference
[02:05] <sakorty> guys this might sound like a really dumb question to most of you but.... it sais here that i should click the light switch icon on the desktop menu then select control center, where is the light switch icon?
[02:05] <tech1> or you need to cd /something something
[02:05] <szal> SilverZ: as gr33n7007h pointed out, there is no folder because you didn't extract the archive
[02:05] <zifnab> so, ubuntu's installer won't see /dev/sda
[02:05] <tech1> oh lol
[02:05] <zifnab> cfdisk can see it
[02:05] <zifnab> fdisk can see it, i have no paritions on it
[02:06] <tech1> well if you didnt create the folder you wont see it
[02:06] <zifnab> what would cause this?
[02:06] <SilverZ> i just placed it into a separate folder and I can't see the folder I put it in either
[02:07] <gr33n7007h>  i gave him command first time for tar.gz the second was for tar.bz2 so second command will work
[02:07] <SilverZ> and extracted it, tried cd folder name again and nothin
[02:07] <bonhoeffer> i get E: unable to locate package foremost
[02:07] <szal> SilverZ: what directory did you download the archive to?
[02:07] <tech1> you need to navigate your directories using ls and cd, without knowing where you are its hard to tell you what to type
[02:08] <SilverZ> how do I navigate directories in terminal?
[02:08] <null1024> SilverZ: cd
[02:08] <null1024> to go up a directory, cd ..
[02:08] <null1024> to enter a folder, cd name-of-folder
[02:08] <SilverZ> right tried that
[02:08] <tech1> "ls" ( display fles/folders) ... looking around..... "cd" change directory
[02:08] <tech1> "cd ../" go to parent folder
[02:09] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, where do your downloads go?
[02:09] <szal> tech1: no need for the slash
[02:09] <danielboston26> how do i install stuff from unauthorized sources?
[02:09] <tech1> oh
[02:09] <SilverZ> hold on hold on
[02:09] <SilverZ> ok I'm at my parent folder
[02:09] <SilverZ> the cd .. was the first thing that worked
[02:09] <szal> danielboston26: define 'unauthorized sources'
[02:10] <SilverZ> at parent folder but cd foldername still doesn't work
[02:10] <danielboston26> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. szal
[02:10] <null1024> SilverZ: type nautilus .
[02:10] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, where do your downloads go?
[02:10] <tech1> for instance my download files are in "/home/username/Downloads"
[02:10] <SilverZ> downloads
[02:11] <null1024> doing this entirely from the command line is silly
[02:11] <rpaddock> i set a static ip with auth eth0 at the top and dns-nameservers at the bottom, when my computer starts up, I have to ifdown then ifup in order to get nameservers to get setup correctly. Is there a better way of doing this?
[02:11] <TJ-> xbmcuser7: You might check the sys file-system for any devices with rfkill... those nodes are created by drivers: "ls /sys/class/*/*/rfkill*/name"
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what web browser you using
[02:11] <SilverZ> i have chrome/ mozilla
[02:11] <szal> null1024: no, it isn't.. what is silly is when people can't seem to follow instructions
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what web browser you use to download compat-wireless
[02:11] <null1024> both things are silly
[02:12] <tech1> the terminal commands are case sensitive remember
[02:12] <sakorty> hello, can anyone help me?
[02:12] <null1024> sakorty: just ask
[02:12] <szal> sakorty: with what? we can't mind-read yet..
[02:12] <sakorty> i am trying to get the rotating cube
[02:12] <SilverZ> chrome, my downloads go to /home/ben/downloads
[02:13] <sakorty> and it sais i have to click on the light switch icon on the desktop, i cant seem to find it
[02:13] <xbmcuser7> Does anyone know how to fix my bluetooth problem?
[02:13] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type this in terminal: find / -iname compat-wireless*
[02:13] <szal> SilverZ: make sure whether it's "downloads" or "Downloads" (mind the case!)
[02:13] <SilverZ> Downloads * I tried both
[02:13] <SilverZ> hold on the find part
[02:14] <tech1> mine is Downloads
[02:14] <SilverZ> it came back saying permission denied on everything, I'm logged in as the administrator though
[02:14] <danielboston26> how do i disable or turn off unity?
[02:14] <danielboston26> i hate it
[02:14] <null1024> sakorty: the desktop cube, right? do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[02:14] <tech1> type "ls /home/ben/Downloads" you should see the folder if its there
[02:14] <danielboston26> with a passion
[02:15] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, are you root
[02:15] <tchopper> rpaddock: Can post your /etc/ifconfig to patebin.com?
[02:15] <sakorty> yes i think i have it installed
[02:15] <szal> gr33n7007h: does he need to?
[02:15] <SilverZ> how do i check?
[02:15] <gr33n7007h> no, just asking
[02:15] <szal> SilverZ: whoami
[02:15] <TJ-> SilverZ: "whoami"
[02:15] <Oxnard_Dogg> how can i check which wireless adapters are supported by ubuntu 12.04?
[02:15] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, echo $USER
[02:16] <danielboston26> ?
[02:16] <Oxnard_Dogg> how about the usb wireles adapters?
[02:16] <SilverZ> it just says ben
[02:16] <null1024> sakorty: then press alt+f2 and type ccsm
[02:16] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what OS you using
[02:16] <SilverZ> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:16] <szal> danielboston26: Ubuntu = Unity.. deal w/ it or use something else (e.g. Kubuntu (KDE) or Xubuntu (XFCE))..
[02:16] <tchopper> danielboston26: I try installing gnome-shell with `sudo apt-get install -y gnome-shell`. After that, you should be able to login to Gnome Shell by clicking the little gear on the login screen.
[02:17] <null1024> a little down the list, you should see the desktop cube settings, you can enable and customize it from there
[02:17] <sakorty> what does alt+f12 do? it doesnt seem to be doing anything
[02:17] <danielboston26> so ubuntu has no way to turn it off anymore?
[02:17] <null1024> sakorty: alt+f2, not f12
[02:17] <TJ-> SilverZ: can you pastebin the results of "ls -al"  (that's lowercase L S -AL)
[02:17] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type: cd $HOME/Downloads
[02:17] <null1024> it brings up the run menu
[02:17] <sakorty> ah thanks
[02:17] <SilverZ> ok I'm in downloads now
[02:18] <SilverZ> now try the original command you gave me?
[02:18] <gr33n7007h> type: ls
[02:18] <SilverZ> the folder is there now
[02:18] <szal> .oO( too many cooks spoil the broth.. )
[02:19] <Samanagh> Does 'Desktop Sharing' work over the internet or only lan?
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> when i mount my usb drive -- i get a permission denied
[02:19] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h I ran the original command you gave me
[02:19] <Samanagh> And if so what port does it use? 22?
[02:19] <SilverZ> now what?
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> but i can easily see the files if i boot via live cd
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> any ideas on how i could mount the drive
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> ?
[02:20] <blackshirt> bonhoeffer,whar drives do you want to mount?
[02:20] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, the tar folder
[02:20] <blackshirt> what
[02:21] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h I'm in that now
[02:21] <bonhoeffer> blackshirt: i have an ext3 usb drive
[02:21] <bonhoeffer> i want to mount it in 12.04
[02:21] <SilverZ> I'm in the folder that the archive created
[02:21] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, ah right
[02:21] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: The file permissions of the ext3 file-system are likely preventing you
[02:21] <gr33n7007h> ok
[02:21] <SilverZ> I'm in ~/Downloads/compat-wireless-3.5-1$
[02:21] <blackshirt> bonhoefffer,yes,exactly,you could mount
[02:21] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, good
[02:21] <bonhoeffer> it doesn't appear in the file explorer, if i go to /media/New Volume the directory is empty
[02:21] <SilverZ> little victories
[02:22] <bonhoeffer> if i boot via live cd i can see the files
[02:22] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type: make
[02:22] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: thanks, any idea on options to fix?
[02:22] <blackshirt> bonhoeffer,you can mount it manually
[02:22] <SilverZ> okay, looks like it's doing stuff. that's about the best description I have right now
[02:22] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: check whether the device has mounted correctly. If there's a file-system error it won't mount. At a terminal first look for it by listing the mounts using "mount"
[02:23] <bonhoeffer> it is /dev/sdc
[02:23] <SilverZ> if this works and you're ever in SC, I'll buy you a beer
[02:23] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, lol
[02:23] <bonhoeffer> i will try sudo mount  -t ext3 /dev/sdc /media/new_mount
[02:23] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h even if it doesn't work
[02:23] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: If it doesn't show up there, then check the /var/log/kern.log file using "Log file viewer" looking for problems after plugging in the USB device
[02:23] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, it might take a while when compiling
[02:24] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Are you sure it's /sdc ... and not /sdc1 ? ... sdc implies the entire drive is a file-system with not paritition table
[02:24] <blackshirt> bonhoeffer,try to specify your device path exactly,maybe some  dev/sdc1, look it
[02:24] <W4sp> PMFJI. bonhoeffer TJ- Shouldn't it /dev/sdc followed by number?
[02:24] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h looks like it, after it's done compiling, then what?
[02:24] <Samanagh> i like men
[02:25] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, sudo make install
[02:25] <Bronz> Samanagh: congrats, just about every other person on earth does as well.
[02:25] <TJ-> Samanagh: So do I... if they do the washing up!
[02:25] <bonhoeffer> correct, it is sdc2 that i should mount
[02:25] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h thanks
[02:25] <c2tarun> hi, can anyone please help me in setting up a LAN chat server using openfire? Please
[02:25] <lafon> It's been a while since I've had to do an upgrade. Can I do a direct one from 10.04 12.04 or would it be better to back up my data and do a fresh install?
[02:25] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: And is that mounting successfully?
[02:26] <blackshirt> c2tarun, i have no play before
[02:26] <bonhoeffer> no, i get special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist
[02:26] <bonhoeffer> but i see it in fdisk
[02:26] <c2tarun> hmm..... :(
[02:26] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc"  ?
[02:26] <blackshirt> bonhoeffer, look with fdisk -l
[02:26] <sakorty> null1024: i got it done, thanks for your help
[02:27] <c2tarun> seems like everyone is sleeping in #openfire
[02:27] <null1024> sakorty: you're welcome ;3
[02:27] <bonhoeffer> no, i can't, because i'm on a terminal prompt (my mouse died)
[02:27] <sakorty> null1024: btw, do you know how to make league of legends work?  xD
[02:27] <bonhoeffer> so i have to look at results, switch windows and remember what i saw
[02:27] <bonhoeffer> GPT detected if that helps
[02:28] <null1024> sakorty: no idea, check the winehq database to see if it works in wine
[02:28] <bonhoeffer> is in that output
[02:28]  * null1024 hasn't tried it, because this laptop's video is terrible, and my other machine [which has better video] is a netbook
[02:28] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You can "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then do "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[02:28] <bonhoeffer> 255 heads, etc .. .but /dev/sdc2 starts at 34 and ends at 1953504653
[02:28] <blackshirt> fdisk -l shows your device and partitions
[02:28] <sakorty> null1024: well i tried looking on the forum and it said that i have to install wine and winetricks
[02:28] <bonhoeffer> System is NOn-FS Data
[02:28] <null1024> sakorty: yes
[02:29] <sakorty> null1024: ok thanks  ^^
[02:29] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: What partition type is sdc2 ?
[02:29] <null1024> sakorty: wine should install winetricks automatically
[02:29] <bonhoeffer> blackshirt, TJ- should be ext3
[02:29] <sakorty> null1024: okay
[02:29] <null1024> sakorty: just sudo apt-get install wine-1.4
[02:29] <null1024> and off you go
[02:29] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I said partion type ... not file-system
[02:29] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: fdisk will show you the type
[02:29] <bonhoeffer> but sdc1 is GPT and sdc2 is Non-FS data
[02:30] <bonhoeffer> sorry, is that what you want
[02:30] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I think the GPT is why it's having a problem
[02:30] <sakorty> null1024: oh i was searching for the download on google  xD
[02:30] <bonhoeffer> Guid partition table?
[02:31] <null1024> sakorty: there are packages on winehq, but installing it from the repo is easier
[02:31] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: so fdisk is showing type 'ee' ?
[02:31] <bonhoeffer> only for sdc1
[02:31] <bonhoeffer> da for sdc2
[02:31] <bonhoeffer> and sdc2 is where the big data are
[02:31] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That's what I wanted, thanks
[02:31] <onetwo__> it tells me my configuration could be broken when it try to install app from the store like Play on Linux or other apps wtf?
[02:31] <sakorty> null1024: E: couldn't find any package by regex 'wine-1.4'
[02:31] <onetwo__> pls someone help me
[02:32] <null1024> sakorty: oh whoops, wine1.4
[02:32] <null1024> no dash
[02:32] <null1024> sorry about that
[02:32] <sakorty> null1024: thanks
[02:32] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: OK, well da ==  Non-FS data which I think comes from the GPT in sdc1
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> onetwo__, run the install from a terminal and post all the text in a pastebin
[02:33] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: so am i screwed?
[02:33] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Can you use something like "mount -t xfs /dev/sdc2 /mnt/XXXXX"  ?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | onetwo__
[02:33] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i'll try
[02:33] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Scratch that! that won't work
[02:33] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Try this: parted /dev/sdc print
[02:33] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h just did sudo make install
[02:34] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i still get /dev/sdc2 does not exist
[02:34] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, yep
[02:34] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Was that for the parted command?
[02:35] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what happened
[02:35] <bonhoeffer> no, for that i get partition table: gpt number: 1 Start 17.4kb, End 1000GB, File System ext3
[02:35] <foxy999> my desktop config keeps resetting when i restart, like the buttons in my launch bar n window decorations, im using 10.04, how can i stop this from happening?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !pm | onetwo__
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> onetwo__, use the channel please. ;)
[02:36] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Thanks... I'm trying to build a picture in my head... give me a mo
[02:36] <SilverZ> it says: No run: sudo make wlunload to unload wireless modules
[02:37] <SilverZ> now run*
[02:37] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: thanks
[02:37] <SilverZ> or run sudo modprobe driver-name to load your desired driver or sudo make unload to unload all
[02:38] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: this page gives some insight on what you're seeing. Worth a read... doesn't solve mounting... yet... though. http://www.wensley.org.uk/gpt
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> onetwo__, the more people that see your problem raises the chance of getting you help.
[02:38] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: In particular note the following:
[02:38] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Set the first MBR partition type ee, as it is your GPT partition table.
[02:38] <TJ-> The second partition in MBR is your GPT table's first partition. We use this to store the Grub stageloader, so set the type to da meaning this is not a filesystem.
[02:39] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h - should I just unload the wireless modules?
[02:39] <onetwo__> ok
[02:39] <onetwo__> well
[02:39] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, no wait
[02:39] <onetwo__> im asking
[02:39] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i can't click -- i'm not in X
[02:39] <SilverZ> my wired connection is working fine and I don't have bluetooth. or should I unload a specific driver, but I'm not 100% sure which one I need
[02:39] <SilverZ> I have a bcm4311 chip
[02:40] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Use lynx
[02:40] <onetwo__> how to run league of legends from 12.04 kubuntu, its a game, help me pls, and how do i kill an app that runs in kubuntu
[02:40] <bonhoeffer> i can try, but i guess i need to copy the image over to the computer using live cd or something -- so frustrating
[02:40] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That page seems to suggest that with a GPT device, you need to fool fdisk  using the gptsync command and then fixing up the partition type numbers manually in fdisk
[02:41] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h it also says if unsure, reboot
[02:41] <bonhoeffer> i wonder why this is such a problem -- i just formatted the disk using live cd per the default
[02:42] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: It seems something selected, or the device already was, a GPT device, and that causes problems for finding the file-systems.
[02:42] <null1024> onetwo__: do you have wine installed?
[02:42] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, dont reboot yet I've not done this in a while 1 sec
[02:42] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h rgr, standing by
[02:43] <Jordan_U> TJ-: bonhoeffer: You do *not* want to use gptsync. "hybrid" MBRs are evil and should only be used when neccessary (which is pretty much only when Windows is involved).
[02:43] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: so i need to read up on what a GPT device is, thanks for alerting me to the problem
[02:43] <bonhoeffer> Jordan_U: i can't mount my drive i formatted with 12.04
[02:43] <bonhoeffer> i can read it if i load live cd on the original computer
[02:43] <bonhoeffer> but no other computers
[02:43] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Thanks for that... I did wonder... but its hard to explain how the device got GPTed in the first place to cause bonhoeffer this much aggro
[02:43] <Jordan_U> bonhoeffer: Please run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and post the URL that it outputs here.
[02:44] <bonhoeffer> Jordan_U: i can't -- i have no mouse
[02:44] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what did sudo make install say
[02:44] <Jordan_U> bonhoeffer: My instructions do not require a mouse.
[02:44] <bonhoeffer> Jordan_U: thanks for trying to help -- i don't have the keyboard skills to pastebin from terminal without a mouse
[02:44] <Jordan_U> bonhoeffer: You might at most have to manually type the URL.
[02:45] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what did sudo make install say
[02:45] <chasechai> #list
[02:45] <Jordan_U> bonhoeffer: Run the command I gave it quotes (remove the quotes before running it). It will either give you an error message that pastebinit is not installed, or it will output a URL. If it outputs a URL then tell us that URL.
[02:45] <chasechai> Jether_______: jkljllkj
[02:45] <SilverZ> all kind of things but it ended with Now Run: sudo make unload to unload all sudo make wlunload to unload wireless sudo make btunload to unload bluetooth sudo modprobe driver-name to load desire driver if unsure reboot
[02:47] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, ha right type: modprobe brcm80211
[02:48] <foxy999> my desktop config keeps resetting when i restart, like the buttons in my launch bar n window decorations, im using 10.04, how can i stop this from happening?
[02:48] <rhizmoe> is there a story behind traceroute not being included by default?
[02:48] <Jether_______> list
[02:48] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h rgr wait one
[02:48] <TJ-> rhizmoe: See tracepath
[02:48] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h can you type that again I cleared my window on accident like a noob
[02:48] <rhizmoe> meh. thanks
[02:49] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, ha right type:sudo modprobe brcm80211
[02:49]  * Jether_______ 我要死了
[02:49] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found.
[02:50] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, sudo modprobe b43
[02:51] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, did it, the command line just popped up next
[02:51] <SilverZ> is it done?
[02:51] <David_linux2> Hi , how can i have Yahoo Messenger on my lubuntu?
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, check your card
[02:51] <SilverZ> AHHA!!! the little light came on which is a huge step up
[02:52] <SilverZ> I'm gonna disconnect my ethernet and try to connect wirelessly be back shortly gr33n7007h
[02:52] <TJ-> SilverZ: A little tip. In Linux, command lines often don't report anything if they don't error
[02:52] <onetwo_> can anyone pls help me play league of legends on this kubuntu 12.04
[02:52] <onetwo_> says i cant install 1.4 wine cause i may have held broken packages
[02:52] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, tell me how it goes good luk
[02:52] <onetwo_> but i already installed 1.5 wine, how do i uninstall it? i wanna try 1.4 wich is more stable version
[02:53] <null1024> onetwo_: did you build it yourself, or apt-get it?
[02:54] <TJ-> onetwo_: You might need to fix those broken packages issues. Try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:54] <kbreit> Am I able to use dhcpd to issue DHCP to all subnets except the one it is in?
[02:55] <TJ-> kbreit: great question! sounds implausible but I'll check
[02:55] <kbreit> TJ-: Thanks. I've been reading the configuration guides and can't find if I can or not. I could off course try.
[02:56] <TJ-> kbreit: The way I read it, for a multi-homed server, it'll only server sub-nets for which there is a subnet {} clause in the config
[02:57] <kbreit> TJ-: So I would put a shared-network group with the subnets I want in there, excluding the one it is attached to ?
[02:58] <TJ-> kbreit: This seems to say so: "A subnet declaration is required for every network your DHCP server is serving. Multiple subnets require multiple subnet declarations. If the DHCP server does not have a network interface in a range of a subnet declaration, the DHCP server does not serve that network. "
[02:58] <kbreit> TJ-: Where did you find that?
[02:58] <TJ-> kbreit: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/sect-Configuring_a_Multihomed_DHCP_Server.html
[02:58] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, it worked but then it wouldn't let me reconnect to chat, I rebooted and now everything is back to how it was
[02:58] <SilverZ> wireless not working
[02:59] <TJ-> SilverZ: You may need to modprobe the module again ... it may not have been loaded. You can check by doing "lsmod | grep XXX" where XXX is a string of characters in the module name
[03:00] <SilverZ> TJ from the folder where the module is correct?
[03:00] <TJ-> SilverZ: to modprobe, you do " sudo modprobe b43"
[03:00] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, show me the output of : /lib/modules/yourkernelversion/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[03:00] <TJ-> SilverZ: No ... you've installed the module to the kernel's lib/ directory
[03:01] <TJ-> SilverZ: so modprobe will 'know' where to find the module
[03:02] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, how do I show the output of that again?
[03:02] <gr33n7007h> pastebin
[03:03] <SilverZ> no, no, do I type that straight or cd before it? or ls ls- a ??
[03:03] <gr33n7007h> ls
[03:03] <gr33n7007h> sorry
[03:04] <SilverZ> i did it with the slash before lib and it said no file or directory again
[03:05] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type sudo modprobe b43           again
[03:05] <SilverZ> straight back to command line, light on card comes on again
[03:05] <gr33n7007h> tyoe ifconfig
[03:06] <SilverZ> done
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> what interface show up
[03:06] <SilverZ> eth0
[03:06] <wurble> gem install rake; rails generate foo; => "Could not find rake-0.9.2 in any of the sources"
[03:06] <SilverZ> and lo
[03:06] <wurble> ^ WHat gives?
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> just that one
[03:06] <ludlow> hello.
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> You say you using 12.04
[03:06] <SilverZ> sorry card switch was flipped wlan came up
[03:07] <ludlow> anyone else crashing after todays updates?
[03:07] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type sudo modprobe b43           again then
[03:07] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, so it's working, but what do I need to do so it doesn't disappear upon reboot?
[03:08] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, so wireless is working
[03:08] <SilverZ> pastebin
[03:08] <gr33n7007h> ok
[03:08] <SilverZ> okay how does pastebin work?
[03:08] <ludlow> my gnome is crashing after todays updates . anyone else having the same issue?
[03:08] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, what you pastebin in
[03:09] <jorenl_> hmm. Running PSensor on this laptop, it's returning a 56C for /dev/sda . Is that ok for  a laptop or should I try to cool it better somehow?
[03:09] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, trying to show what ifconfig said about mah wireless
[03:09] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, ah ok
[03:09] <SilverZ> but the card came on earlier but after reboot it didn't, what's going wrong on reboot?
[03:09] <TJ-> SilverZ: If a module doesn't get auto-loaded at boot-time (it ought to) then you can ensure it is by adding its name to the file /etc/modules
[03:09] <gr33n7007h> type ifconfig | pastebinin
[03:10] <SilverZ> in the terminal?
[03:10] <gr33n7007h> yes
[03:10] <TJ-> SilverZ: that should be type "ifconfig | pastebinit"
[03:10] <SilverZ> then install it?
[03:10] <TJ-> SilverZ: note the ending T not N
[03:11] <SilverZ> installing....
[03:11] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h TJ should uninstall the original broadcom drivers as well, so the ubuntu doesn't load them up when I reboot?
[03:12] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, not yet
[03:12] <highbuzz> When I try and start Ubuntu after a fresh install, I get this screen.. is there anything I can do?: http://i.imgur.com/K1E4H.jpg
[03:12] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h
[03:12] <SilverZ> ok
[03:13] <gr33n7007h> paste the url on here
[03:13] <SilverZ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133645/
[03:13] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, looking good
[03:14] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, now type: echo "b43" >> /etc/modules
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | highbuzz
[03:14] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, permission denied
[03:15] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, sorry prefix with sudo
[03:15] <foxy999> my desktop config keeps resetting when i restart, like the buttons in my launch bar n window decorations, im using 10.04, how can i stop this from happening?
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> highbuzz, follow the link to insert nomodeset in the kernel to boot in and update and look in additional drivers.
[03:15] <SilverZ> so sudo echo "br3" >> /etc/modules
[03:15] <gr33n7007h> sudo echo "b43" >> /etc/modules
[03:16] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, still permission denied or do I need to go back to the original folder?
[03:16] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, type: sudo -i
[03:17] <SilverZ> ok I'm root@computer name now
[03:17] <somsip> I updated nvidia-current and lost my screen settings on reboot. Tracked it down to the module not being built for the kernel in use. See pastebin http://pastebin.com/fscMNGEj
[03:17] <gr33n7007h> now type: echo "b43" >> /etc/modules
[03:17] <SilverZ> did, right back at the command line
[03:17] <Jordan_U> gr33n7007h: SilverZ: The proper way to append output to a file which can only be written to by root is "echo foo | sudo tee -a /path/to/file"
[03:18] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, You out of root?
[03:18] <SilverZ> no I'm still root
[03:18] <gr33n7007h> ^^^ Jordan_U +1
[03:18] <gr33n7007h> type: exit
[03:19] <SilverZ> ok back to ben
[03:19] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, now reboot to see if the module loads
[03:19] <SilverZ> do i need to type what Jordan_U posted?
[03:19] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, no he was just telling you the proper way
[03:20] <SilverZ> ah, ok, I'll reboot, cya in a bit
[03:20] <gr33n7007h> kk
[03:20] <AllCount> hi
[03:24] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h thank you, I am connected to the internet WITHOUT WIRES!!
[03:24] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, good to hear
[03:24] <sakorty> null1024: sorry to bother you but i have a small problem with wine1.4
[03:25] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, thanks again, if you ever have car questions, don't hesitate to ask =D
[03:25] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, haha lol
[03:25] <sakorty> null1024: a message poped up in the terminal and sais configuration ttf-mscorefonts-installer, what should i do?
[03:26] <Gyro54> Hi!
[03:26] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, I need to learn a good amount about linux/ubuntu, would probably pay off since I'm going to be studying engineering here soon
[03:26] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, You'll get used to it trust me ;)
[03:27] <SilverZ> gr33n7007h, word. take care
[03:27] <Gyro54> I am trying to clone an OEM 12.04 but clonezilla 1.2.8 fails at 98% every time. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:27] <gr33n7007h> SilverZ, will do
[03:27] <foxy999> Can anyone help me from stopping my desktop config from ressetting everytime i boot?
[03:30] <highbuzz> ubottu and wilee-nilee: thank you.
[03:30] <W4sp> gr33n7007h: That was more exciting than the Olympic games. :-)
[03:31] <W4sp> !cookies | gr33n7007h
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> highbuzz, your in cool. ;)
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> W4sp, lmao we got there in the end
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> you're*
[03:33] <W4sp> gr33n7007h: I admire your patience, skills and guts.
[03:34] <gr33n7007h> W4sp, You have to with some
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> Gyro54, besides here there is a #clonezilla channel only 9 people there though
[03:36] <BlackWeb> Just curious if anyone would know how to set up a Network interface, Which I installed 12.04 Server, & didnt have it connected to my network at the time of install so that after installation then the eth0 wasnt setup to activate so I went in started it up and it looked like it was having a hard time setting it up as a DHCP interface. Which configure /etc/network/interfaces so that it read "auto lo eth0" which would start the inter
[03:36] <BlackWeb> face but failed to grab its ip from router would anyone know how to set it up as DCHP
[03:37] <mkquist> anyone know why i would get this running lspci -v "
[03:37] <mkquist> 3D controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
[03:37] <mkquist> 	!!! Unknown header type 7f
[03:37] <mkquist> oops
[03:37] <BlackWeb> Wheres Dr_willis
[03:38] <el_ruso> BlackWeb, auto eth0, don't touch auto lo
[03:38] <_skpl> is it possible to re-install unity?
[03:38] <BlackWeb> so if I change it so that it read auto eth0 then will it activate the interface as DHCP, to where it
[03:38] <BlackWeb> it'll grab its IP from router
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> _skpl, what brings you to needing to, hyou can set it back to stock.
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> you*
[03:39] <BlackWeb> so I'll have two lines "auto eth0"; "auto lo"
[03:39] <_skpl> well whenever i click on a running app, it doesnt bring the app up, i dont know why
[03:39] <BlackWeb> Or would i have to set it up to obtain its address from router also
[03:39] <el_ruso> BlackWeb, auto lo
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> _skpl, try alt-f2 and rub unity --reset
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> run*
[03:40] <BlackWeb> ya before touching the file it just had that "auto lo" I thought it was the loopback adapter
[03:40] <Sakorty> Hello
[03:40] <_skpl> wilee-nilee: thanks, that worked :D
[03:40] <BlackWeb> Which trying to decide if my best bet is to just reinstall the system with it connected or if theres a way so that the eth0 interface will have a DHCP IP
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> _skpl, cool, enjoy. ;)
[03:41] <Sakorty> my computer restarted when i was installing wine 1.4, now i get like this error message saying i should run the package manager
[03:41] <Sakorty> how do i do that?
[03:43] <sc30317> does anyone know why my computer might not have suspend enabled by default?  Can't see it in the menu - ubuntu 12.04
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, if it rebooted during a install you may just need to free it up run this in a terminal  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:45] <kill_box> hello
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> never used wine so I don't know if it is supposed to reboot
[03:45] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee: it sais uable to lock the administration directory
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, you have the software center or synaptic open
[03:46] <David_Away> How can i set an automatic Shut down after some amount of time on my lubuntu???
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> software center should not mater though
[03:46] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee: sorry im new to all this, i dont understand what you mean
[03:46] <David_Away> How can i set an automatic Shut down after some amount of time on my lubuntu???
[03:46] <Guest84917> Sakorty, run the package manager
[03:46] <Guest84917>  how do i do that?: from yout command line: $ sudo apt-get -f install
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, how did you start the wine install to begin with?
[03:47] <sc30317> David_Away, read the shutdown man page; its on there
[03:47] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee: uhm, i think it was sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[03:47] <David_Away> Where sc30317 ?
[03:47] <sc30317> David_Away, open a terminal
[03:47] <sc30317> man shutdown
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, have you installed synaptic?
[03:47] <sc30317> read
[03:47] <sc30317> profit
[03:47] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee: dont think so...
[03:47] <kill_box> david, !# shutdown
[03:48] <kill_box> write a script
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, try this command if it does not error run the last one again. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:48] <null1024> wait, isn't synaptic installed by default
[03:48] <Guest84917> wilee-nilee, why would he need synaptic? apt-get, apt-cache and aptitude should do it right
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> null1024, not now in 12.04
[03:48] <null1024> ah
[03:48]  * null1024 upgraded from 10.04
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest84917, did I say he needed it?
[03:49] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee, it sais its locked by another process
[03:49] <kill_box> anyone know why i keep getting xorg panics on live-persistant FDE lucid usb. i have no swap. i've figured too much for usb to handle
[03:49] <Guest84917> wilee-nilee, you mention it trying luck as his best option, which it isn't
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, generally if a instaler is open already you get that error.
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> installer
[03:49] <David_Away> so i type shutdown +60 ?
[03:49] <David_Away> in terminal?
[03:50] <sc30317> shutdown -h +60
[03:50] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee, well my pc just crashed in the middle of the installation
[03:50] <sc30317> as root
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> Guest84917, No I ask to make sure there are no open installers.
[03:50] <David_Away> how can i be root?
[03:50] <sc30317> David_Away, make sense
[03:50] <David_Away> sc30317
[03:50] <el_ruso> Hi does anybody knows how to configure an apache server behind squid (two different servers, same LAN, both Ubuntu)?
[03:50] <sc30317> David_Away, are you new to linux? :)
[03:50] <David_Away> yes installed today xD
[03:50] <null1024> David_Away: prefix commands with sudo
[03:51] <David_Away> i have to go sleep
[03:51] <Jordan_U> !sudo | David_Away
[03:51] <null1024> David_Away: so sudo shutdown -h +60
[03:51] <sc30317> David_Away, http://www.linfo.org/root.html
[03:51] <David_Away> ok
[03:51] <Guest84917> wilee-nilee, oh i c, clever
[03:51] <Guest84917> i often forget how much gui oriented is ubuntu :P
[03:51] <David_Away> thanks ,it didnt say Setted timer or anything
[03:51] <David_Away> i hope it will work
[03:52] <reasearcher123> why some sites are not opening on my pc namely facebook, way2sms etc.?
[03:52] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, can u elaborate on that?
[03:52] <Sakorty> hmm so what do i do about this problem?
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest84917, the error suggests that just checking the possibilities with my walnut sized brain. ;)
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> Sakorty, not sure I can get you an answer but stay on the channel.
[03:53] <Sakorty> wilee-nilee, i guess ill go back and search the forums some more
[03:53] <reasearcher123>  All websites can open on my pc except a few one like www.facebook.com www.way2sms.com, www.tatasky.com etc.
[03:54] <Guest84917> wilee-nilee, and you're right, often those common 'walnut sized brain' scenarios are the ones that keep you banging your head to the wall until you realize that: "wait a minute! what if... are you using synaptic by chance?" lol
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> you never know what is going on, or what has happened.
[03:55] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, well, i must that if u can't open www.faceshit.com you're a lucky person
[03:55] <Guest84917> :D
[03:55] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, now, what error message do you see?
[03:55] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, which browser do you use?
[03:56] <reasearcher123> no error message.Just it takes eternity and never opens
[03:56] <davidrsmorris> Hey, I'm setting up 23:51 < Guest84917> wilee-nilee, oh i c, clever
[03:57] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, from where are you trying to access those sites? sometimes net administrators puts a proxy to filter people access to internet and to block such sites
[03:57] <reasearcher123> im not behind any firewall
[03:57] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, some examples could be a school, an institute and so on
[03:57] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, not a firewall, a proxy
[03:57] <reasearcher123> I dont have proxy filter
[03:58] <Guest84917> ok, did you tried turn it off and on again?
[03:58] <reasearcher123> in fat it opens from my college where we have proxy but does not open from home
[03:58] <Guest84917> :D
[03:58] <Guest84917> (I love The IT C)
[03:58] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, ok, so you're browsing the net with a notebook
[03:59] <reasearcher123> desktop
[03:59] <davidrsmorris> hey, I'm setting up Awesome under ubuntu, and right now, I'm trying to set up a volume control.  I'm using Delightful widgets, and the volume widget is PulseAudio.  Since ubuntu has used ALSA since the switch to Unity, I figure other Awesome wm users here feel my pain.  Has anyone solved this problem?
[03:59] <Nach0z> hey guys, got a question for you. Every time I connect to a new wifi network, my resolv.conf gets reverted and the nameserver is defined as "127.0.0.1", is there any way to make it STOP doing this? I'm fairly sure resetting the dns servers to localhost shouldn't be default behaviour.
[04:00] <Guest84917> Nach0z, master, esta es la mejor forma: you need to set the immutable bit
[04:01] <Guest84917> Nach0z, $ sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf will make the file immutable, that is, no one even root can change that file
[04:02] <Nach0z> hm. that might work. thanks
[04:02] <Guest84917> it's very common to have /etc/resolv.conf immutable if one uses his own set of dns servers, like opendns, google dns or level43
[04:02] <Nach0z> googledns ftw
[04:02] <kill_box> anyone got experience on live-persistent usb's
[04:03] <Guest84917> in fact, i recommend using dns-crypt  with opendns so that way every query to dns will be encrypted from your isp
[04:03] <Guest84917> pretty, isn't it? :)
[04:03] <Nach0z> hm
[04:03] <KBentley57> whats up kill_box
[04:03] <Nach0z> actually
[04:03] <Nach0z> Guest84917: can't chattr +i
[04:03] <Guest84917> Nach0z, why not?
[04:03] <kill_box> keep gettin xorg panics
[04:04] <Nach0z> operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.con
[04:04] <kill_box> usb just not reliable?
[04:04] <Nach0z> *conf
[04:04] <Guest84917> let me see...
[04:04] <Nach0z> Guest84917: Also tried on /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf, still no dice
[04:04] <KBentley57> what kind of hardware are you running?
[04:04] <mkquist> anyone help with nvidia driver activated but not in use in 11.04?
[04:04] <Guest84917> Nach0z, yeah, i remember now about this, give me a minute
[04:05] <KBentley57>  mkquist have you tried to deactive the driver, and use the binary from nvidia?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Have you checked what DNS server is configured in network-manager?
[04:05] <Nach0z> Guest84917: somewhere here says to add the "acl" option to automount points in fstab
[04:05] <xangua> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ Nach0z Guest84917
[04:05] <c2tarun> anyone using choqok here?
[04:05] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: it changes depending on what wifi I'm attached to
[04:06] <Guest84917> Nach0z, yup, you are right
[04:06] <Guest84917> i forget about acl
[04:06] <root_359> hi
[04:07] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, still there?
[04:07] <Nach0z> xangua: thanks a ton bud, that is actually a good plan
[04:07] <reasearcher123> yes still there
[04:07] <Nach0z> But my question is, why the hellfire would Ubuntu change the nameservers to localhost by default? That CANNOT be someone's idea of "user friendly".
[04:07] <Nach0z> This is a just-got-installed Ubuntu btw, like four hours ago
[04:08] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, hey, let's see, are you connected wired to the net?
[04:08] <reasearcher123> wired
[04:08] <mkquist> KBentley57: tried installing the driver from Nvidia, but funny thing is ive installed on this machine before with no problem
[04:08] <mkquist> KBentley57: oh yeah no go on installed from Nvidia driver
[04:08] <Guest84917> Nach0z, it's ubuntu dude, i see all kind of strange things happening here, lol
[04:08] <KBentley57> mkquist, what is the problem you are having exactly
[04:09] <Guest38505> NICK are
[04:09] <somsip> So... sudo update-grub has been running for over 30 mins. Safe to CTRL-C or asking for trouble??
[04:09] <mkquist> KBentley57: at this point driver activated but not in use
[04:09] <systemd0wn> I'm attempting to cross compile some tools for arm. Any takers on a question or two?
[04:09] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, please open a console and do: $ cat /etc/hosts and tell me if you see facebook.com there
[04:09] <Guest38505> these are awesome questions, i have a dumb one unfortunately, related to a wireless NIC on 12.04 LTS
[04:10] <somsip> mkquist: is there an error [EE] entry in /var/log/Xorg.log that says 'Unable to load module nvidia'?
[04:10] <KBentley57> mkquist, did you uninstall the old driver first?
[04:11] <reasearcher123> got the messgae:no such file or directory
[04:11] <Nach0z> gahhhh. fuggit. now changes to dhclient.conf aren't being accepted
[04:11] <Nach0z> blarghl
[04:11] <davidrsmorris> somsip: I wouldn't.  Are you running low on battery?
[04:11] <Guest38505> when i reboot, my wireless network is not recognized, but when i type "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb", and "sudo modprobe b43" it starts to work again, i have a broadcom card in this laptop
[04:11] <mkquist> somsip: no
[04:11] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, no wat, /etc/hosts must be there, try again
[04:11] <Jordan_U> somsip: It's safe to ctrl+C, update-grub creates /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new and only overwrites /boot/grub/grub.cfg after finishing and confirming there are no syntax errors. You should figure out why it's hanging though.
[04:11] <Guest84917> $ cat /etc/hosts
[04:12] <somsip> Jordan_U: you're a star. Thank you.
[04:12] <reasearcher123> yes got some lines out
[04:12] <Jordan_U> somsip: You're welcome.
[04:12] <somsip> mkquist: any entries relating to nvidia module in the Xorg.log?
[04:12] <reasearcher123> please c here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133698/
[04:12] <mkquist> KBentley57: ive gone so far as to purge nvidia-current and reinstall it
[04:13] <somsip> mkquist: I'm doing the same thing - was it upgrade to 295.40?
[04:13] <KBentley57> mkquist, I see.  Can you tell me the name of the nvidia card you have?  Just for reference
[04:13] <mkquist> KBentley57: 310M
[04:13] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, well, you have a fairly default hosts file so facebook isn't blocked thru it
[04:13] <mkquist> somsip: is that the new one?
[04:13] <KBentley57> mkquist, is it a laptop with switchable graphics?
[04:13] <mkquist> KBentley57: yep
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Is this happening with more than one wireless network (or wireless networks configured by different organisations)? The DHCP server may simply be configured incorrectly.
[04:14] <reasearcher123> true but still facebook problem remains
[04:14] <mkquist> KBentley57: worked before though just fine...
[04:14] <somsip> mkquist: last night for me. In my case, uname -r shows I'm running 3.2.0.26 but the module for that isn't being built "It is likely that 3.2.0-26-generic belongs to a chroot's host"
[04:14] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, moving next: can it be your ISP is blocking those sites? when was the last time you could succefully access those sites?
[04:14] <mkquist> KBentley57: I think this all started with trying to upgrade to the newer nvidia driver...
[04:14] <reasearcher123> 2 weeks ago
[04:14] <KBentley57> mkquist, I think there is a bug with the newest driver, or something.  I recall reading about it maybe on slashdot or something similar?  Most of my experience is with amd cards
[04:14] <somsip> mkquist: so maybe worth sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current && uname -r to see if its the same for you
[04:15] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, there are multiple vector to take care when debugging such issues, but in this very case we can basically narrow them to a few:
[04:15] <somsip> KBentley57: version 1 of 295.40 had some bugs for some 8XXX cards reported around April, with the v1.1 supposedly fixing them
[04:15] <reasearcher123> ok?
[04:16] <mkquist> somsip: already did that one, purged and reinstalled nvidia-current
[04:16] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, 1. proxy or firewall (you already said that's not the problem), 2. host file (we just saw it's clean), 3. browser: may be a recent update broke something?
[04:16] <somsip> mkquist: and were there any error messages? Like here http://pastebin.com/fscMNGEj
[04:16] <reasearcher123> possible
[04:16] <reasearcher123> cant figure out what
[04:17] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, did you try accessing with another browser? are you using any plugin that _potentially_ could block your web access?
[04:17] <KBentley57> mkquist, Somsip, can you revert to the older driver?
[04:17] <reasearcher123> google chrom n firefox both tried
[04:17] <mkquist> somsip: nope
[04:18] <somsip> KBentley57: tried 295.33, even tried 302.17 (I think) from XUP PPA. It's not a driver issue per se, more that the module is not being build for my running kernel. But I'm not trying to thread hijack from mkquist here...
[04:18] <somsip> mkquist: ok - worth a try in case it was a similar error
[04:18] <laumonier> hi i ve done a new instalation and i have no sound on ubuntu (ive got a dual boot and on windows it works) need advice and help to fix this thx
[04:18] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, ok, let's go dirty, first things first: please switch to a console and write: $ ping www.facebook.com
[04:18] <Guest84917> reasearcher123, let' be sure that we can actually access the site
[04:19] <KBentley57> somsip, mkquist, wish I could be of more help, but I can't think of anything to try off the top of my head.  Try searching the ubuntu forums if you haven't already.  I usually only mess with AMD/ATI cards.  good luck though
[04:19] <reasearcher123> 7 received 12%packet loss
[04:19] <mkquist> be back, time to black list nouveau and reboot
[04:19] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: it's happening with every wifi network I try to connect to
[04:19] <mkquist> KBentley57: thanks anyway
[04:19] <somsip> mkquist: what is your uname -r output?
[04:20] <reasearcher123> I want to recharge DishTV from www.tatasky.com that too fails to open
[04:20] <mkquist> KBentley57: =)
[04:20] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: so, four different home networks at least, one of which is mine (and I don't have this issue on, say, openSUSE)
[04:20] <reasearcher123> have to go to office.will work later.Thanks for the support.Bye
[04:20] <mkquist> somsip: 2.6.38-15-generic
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Earlier you said "it changes depending on what wifi I'm attached to". What did you mean by that?
[04:21] <somsip> and is 'nvidia-current.ko' listed in /var/lib/{kernel}/updates/dkms ?
[04:21] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: meant that it changes back to 127.0.0.1 if I change wifi signals, sorry
[04:28] <Guest38505> I have a 1490 DW broadcom nic in my laptop that wont recognizes my wireless router under I run the following commands $ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb  and $ sudo modprobe b43, any thoughts on how to resolve?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug network-manager".
[04:31] <zach_> hello ubuntu people, I need some help installing ubuntu!
[04:32] <Guest38505> nick are
[04:32] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Also note that this is not actually the default behavior of network-manager (I have never seen this before, and if it were the default then very few people would have working internet). Something odd is going on.
[04:33] <ImStanding> hello
[04:33] <ImStanding> I need some support, anybody there?
[04:34] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: aight.
[04:34] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding, go ahead with your questions.  Introductions are not expected on irc.
[04:34] <Nach0z> Jordan_U: is it possible that something in the home directory could be influencing it?
[04:35] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris I have an HP Pavilion ze4600 here and I can't get it to install ubuntu
[04:36] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: will it boot the livecd?
[04:36] <ImStanding> I don't know what liveCD is.  Is that just the 32 bit cd I burned to the disc?
[04:37] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: yes, if it was the approximately 700 mb image.
[04:37] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[04:37] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris I don't know what liveCD is.  Is that just the 32 bit cd I burned to the disc?
[04:37] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: Possible. Two things to try would be testing in the guest session (since it creates a new temporary home directory) and testing in a LiveCD (where *everything* is known to be default).
[04:38] <ImStanding> yeah, I am sure I did it correctly davidrsmorris.  I put in the CD and I get the purple ubuntu screen and then the colorful background, but then it just stays there and does not advance
[04:38] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: are you on IRC on a separate machine?  Are you running Ubuntu from the disk?
[04:38] <TJ-> Nach0z: You might want to check "/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" to see if it has "dns=dnsmasq", and if so, comment that line out
[04:38] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris I am on a seperate laptop, and I have the problematic laptop next to me
[04:39] <TJ-> Nach0z: In 12.04 we switched to using dnsmasq as the default resolver. See http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[04:39] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris yes I booted from the disk
[04:42] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Do you hear the disk moving when the purple screen (boot splash) comes on?  Do you hear it either stop or keep going at the same speed when it starts just staying?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Nach0z: It turns out I gave you bad information. TJ-'s link explains that 127.0.0.1 really is the default, and why. Sorry about that.
[04:42] <ImStanding> it has been making the same (annoying) noise the entire time.  I feel like it is still thinking/working haha... davidrsmorris
[04:44] <Nach0z> TJ-: thanks bud
[04:44] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: I think it's stumped.  Try turning it off, and then when you see the purple screen, press Escape.  It should hopefully turn into a black background and start giving out lines of text.  When it gets stuck again, tell us what the line of text at the bottom of the screen is.
[04:45] <ImStanding> okay davidrsmorris  give me a few minutse
[04:45] <ImStanding> minutes*
[04:46] <ImStanding> one quick thing...  I assume the laptop is 32 bit, am I correct?
[04:46] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris
[04:47] <drinxtir> What kinda laptop?
[04:48] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris are you there?
[04:48] <TJ-> ImStanding: When the liveCD starts your get to a menu with "try Ubuntu..." etc ... at the bottom of the screen are some prompts for function keys. Pressing F6 will allow you to remove the "quiet splash" boot options to see messages as the PC boots... which should allow us to figure out what is going wrong. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[04:49] <systemd0wn> How can I narrow down an issue I'm having? I am running 12.04-64bit and I'm experiencing random freezes. Sometimes this does not inlcude the mouse cursor, other times the mouse cursor disappears entirely. Don't know where to begin my search.
[04:49] <TJ-> systemd0wn: Check out the system logs in /var/logs/ ... in particular kern.log, syslog and Xorg.0.log
[04:49] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: The 32bit CD is right for your machine if it got you to the splash.
[04:49] <ImStanding> TJ- What I just did was on that menu I clicked Install UBUNTU..  Which I have never seen before.  So know it is working and I think I may have some progress....  davidrsmorris
[04:50] <systemd0wn> TJ-, Thank you very much.
[04:50] <ImStanding> OMG.. too much crap to type.
[04:50] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris
[04:50] <TJ-> ImStanding: There might be a CD read error ... removing "quiet splash" will show if the kernel reports failed reads
[04:50] <ImStanding> What are you saying TJ-
[04:51] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: You probably want to try ubuntu first.  And that menu should have a "check cd for errors" option which you should use.
[04:51] <TJ-> ImStanding: If you can see the kernel's messages as it boots you might get a clue as to the cause of the problem. Otherwise it's just stabs in the dark
[04:51] <ImStanding> Shall I stop the current progress?  davidrsmorris TJ-
[04:51] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Not all of the text is important.  The text is describing what is happening as the computer starts up.  The part that's important is the last thing done before something went wrong and it hung.
[04:52] <TJ-> ImStanding: I've known often of CD drives with dislodged dust stopping the laser from focusing correctly... showing read errors... and fixed by giving the drive slot a very strong blow-out!
[04:52] <TJ-> ImStanding: whilst its going... don't tempt fate and stop it :p
[04:53] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ-  What I am going to do is watch the text advance until it stops.  I am seeing it stopping and starting many things.  This looks normal.
[04:53] <TJ-> ImStanding: That sounds sensible. Often the hardest part is the CD/DVD based installation.
[04:53] <ImStanding> My problem before was that I only saw the desktop, but now I see "stopping mount network filesystems"
[04:54] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: yep, and if you're quick, you'll begin to learn a little about all the software that turns arithmetic into a grahical interface.
[04:54] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ-  CHANGE IN PROGRESS!!!   I see the pretty UBUNTU desktop screen now
[04:54] <ImStanding> which is where I became STUCK before. davidrsmorris TJ-
[04:54] <TJ-> ImStanding: That sounds good. Often we underestimate how long a CD-based boot will take
[04:54] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: You got a mouse cursor?
[04:54] <ImStanding> yes sir
[04:54] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ-
[04:55] <TJ-> ImStanding: As long as you have the desktop you have a user session. If the mouse fails you can still get to a text terminal and run diagnostics/check log files for clues
[04:55] <ImStanding> How long does it usually take for a window to popup?  davidrsmorris TJ-
[04:55] <ImStanding> The mouse doesn't move
[04:55] <ImStanding> and I see text again davidrsmorris TJ-
[04:55] <TJ-> ImStanding: I've known it take 5 minutes on slow systems/CD drives... go get a coffee and come back :p
[04:56] <ImStanding> haha, except I am 14 and this is too late lol TJ-
[04:56] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Does the mouse move?
[04:56] <TJ-> ImStanding: You'll be 15 by the time its done :p
[04:56] <ImStanding> hahaha...  davidrsmorris: no  TJ- LOL
[04:57] <johni> hello
[04:57] <drinxtir> Stick to the terminal and ditch the mouse
[04:57] <ImStanding> I am very proud of myself.  I fixed one computer yesterday that had a bad virus on windows XP.  So I saw a need for a wipeout and then I took the free way UBUNTU.  And realize its more reliable
[04:57] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- I don't see text anymore, just a black screen with the mouse
[04:57] <TJ-> ImStanding: Congratulations on seeing the light :D
[04:57] <davidrsmorris> drinxtir: you remind me of my Arch days.
[04:58] <TJ-> ImStanding: Is the mouse responding... what kind of mouse device does the laptop have? touchpad? usb external mouse?
[04:58] <ImStanding> LOL.. drinxtir if you need to talk to me, say my name in your text, otherewise I won't read it :P
[04:58] <ImStanding> TJ- It responds now, and it is touchpad
[04:58] <TJ-> ImStanding: Slow but steady progess then
[04:58] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ-    Now a gray screen
[04:59] <drinxtir> ImStanding: can u hear me now? Rofl
[04:59] <ImStanding> yes drinxtir
[04:59] <ImStanding> haha
[05:00] <TJ-> ImStanding: useful information: most Linux's in multiuser mode start several terminals (ttys) and run the GUI on tty7 or tty8 ... You can get to those other (text) terminals from the GUI by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1...F7 ... and you can return to the GUI by pressing Alt+F7 or F8
[05:00] <johni> i'm trying to setup a shortcut dir of this path /home/user/downloads in this path /jail/glftpd/site/
[05:00] <johni> how do i do this? i tried using mount but didn't really succeeded
[05:01] <ImStanding> TJ- LOL I have no idea what you just said
[05:01] <TJ-> ImStanding: You can use those terminals to diagnose problems and view system boot messages when you have serious problems that prevent GUI use
[05:01] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: if you look closely, it might be a weave of white and black.
[05:01] <drinxtir> johni: man ln
[05:01] <TJ-> johni: ln -s  /home/user/downloads /jail/glftpd/site/downloads
[05:01] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ-                david:  no it's not
[05:02] <ImStanding> TJ-  Is there a cheat sheet for this?  Lol  because I can't remember shortcuts easily.
[05:03] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: What he said is, if the computer can't control the graphics card well enough to draw windows, it might be able to accept text commands and give out text information that looks like the verbose boot did.
[05:03] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- still gray screen
[05:03] <ImStanding> what is the verbose boot?  davidrsmorris
[05:03] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Your first one is hard, but as you memorize more, you get better at it.
[05:03] <drinxtir> Imstanding, ctrl+alt+f1 should show the kernel output.
[05:03] <drinxtir> Or f8
[05:03] <drinxtir> I can't member
[05:04] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Where you told it to tell you what it was doing as it started up instead of showing you a progress bar.
[05:04] <ImStanding> oh davidrsmorris
[05:04] <TJ-> ImStanding: "verbose" means being very wordy... lots of messages
[05:04] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- drinxtir    Okay so I pressed f8 and now I see...   ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:05] <TJ-> ImStanding: we use it in computing alot to describe a program providing lots of information on what it is doing
[05:05] <drinxtir> And black? that'd you tty8 imstanding
[05:05] <TJ-> ImStanding: that's what we call a shell prompt. Like the C:\> prompt on Windows. You can run commands from it do most anything
[05:06] <ImStanding> like look on facebook?  Lol jk
[05:06] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- drinxtir   why hasn't it done anything?
[05:06] <TJ-> ImStanding: Here's a starts guide so you know how to control it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
[05:06] <drinxtir> Your in a terminal. Start commanding it! Lol
[05:06] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: still grey?
[05:07] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris, nope now it is black.
[05:07] <ImStanding> and I see ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:07] <TJ-> ImStanding: try this command: "whoami"
[05:07] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: great, you're at a command line.
[05:07] <drinxtir> Login imstanding
[05:07] <TJ-> drinxtir: It's already logged in; it's the live CD
[05:07] <drinxtir> O.o
[05:07] <johni> tj- thank u
[05:08] <johni> but it still didn't help me..
[05:08] <ImStanding> TJ-  It says ubuntu again
[05:08] <ImStanding> lol
[05:08] <TJ-> johni: If you're trying to do something with a chroot jail (guessing from the path) you can't symlink outside the chroot. You'd have to do a --bind mount
[05:08] <drinxtir> Are you trying to install imstanding
[05:09] <TJ-> ImStanding: That's correct... that is telling you that the current user is "ubuntu"
[05:09] <ImStanding> drinxtir I am trying to install ubuntu on a very old laptop :0
[05:09] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- drinxtir so what do I do???!!!
[05:09] <johni> yeah
[05:09] <TJ-> ImStanding: Now we have to figure out how to get the installer log files off that PC and somewhere we can read them. Is that laptop connected to a network?
[05:09] <johni> how to do that?
[05:10] <ImStanding> TJ- it is directly plugged into my router
[05:10] <drinxtir> get a server copy that has alternative install. Imstanding
[05:10] <ImStanding> drinxtir what???????
[05:10] <drinxtir> No gui
[05:10] <TJ-> johni: "sudo mkdir -p /jail/glftpd/site/downloads; sudo mount --bind /home/user/downloads /jail/glftpd/site/downloads"
[05:11] <TJ-> ImStanding: Great!
[05:11] <drinxtir> Then if it installs you might be able to get ubuntu-desktop imstanding
[05:11] <TJ-> ImStanding: OK, now type this: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[05:11] <TJ-> ImStanding: that will install a package that helps you paste text from programs directly to a web site
[05:12] <ImStanding> TJ- looks like it failed shit up..lol  I see lots of text
[05:13] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris what are your thoughts on what I should do
[05:13] <TJ-> ImStanding: Do you see anything that reads to be an error?
[05:13] <ImStanding> everything
[05:13] <TJ-> ImStanding: Give me an example here... of something that sounds bad to you?
[05:13] <ImStanding> TJ-every line has an error
[05:13] <Charlos> Hello all!!
[05:13] <TJ-> ImStanding: It might just be something silly like the network not configured... which we can fix
[05:13] <Charlos> why not work update error in ubuntu  9.10 karmic koala  ?
[05:14] <ImStanding> SQUASHFS error: unable to read page, block 376ab47, size f960
[05:14] <ImStanding> TJ-
[05:14] <jrib> !9.10 | Charlos
[05:14] <TJ-> ImStanding: YAY! that's what we need! That is a read error from the disk causing corruption of the boot image
[05:14] <davidrsmorris> hey does anyone else use Awesome wm and ALSA?
[05:14] <jrib> davidrsmorris: best to just ask your actual question
[05:14] <ImStanding> TJ- what do I do?
[05:14] <TJ-> ImStanding: wait a moment whilst I find out how we can run the CD integrity check from the terminal
[05:15] <ImStanding> TJ- sure.
[05:15] <drinxtir> Imstanding http://mirror.as29550.net/releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso
[05:15] <Zarel> So, my friend is trying to decide how to partition his laptop for Ubuntu.
[05:15] <Zarel> He has 8 GB of RAM - how much swap should he use?
[05:15] <Charlos> I try to upgrade 9.10 to 10.04.3 LTS is good work  ????
[05:15] <drinxtir> Imstanding you'll need the alternate install if the gui fails to load
[05:16] <TJ-> drinxtir: You're confusing the issue right now... if there's a hardware CD drive error using the alternate installer will not solve the issue
[05:16] <johni> tj- thank ! very good
[05:16] <jrib> Charlos: read the information ubottu just gave you
[05:16] <jrib> !upgrade | Charlos
[05:16] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: what speed did you write the disk at?  You generally can't write it at the highest speed your burner offers...
[05:16] <drinxtir> Tj- true... :/
[05:17] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris, Idk i never specified
[05:17] <davidrsmorris> Does anyone have an Delightful widget ALSA mixer or should I write my own?
[05:17] <ImStanding> I am waiting for TJ- to lookup my answer :D
[05:17] <TJ-> ImStanding: I'm working on it... hold your horses!
[05:18] <ImStanding> I know TJ- I was informing the other two people trying to help
[05:18] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: look through the settings on whatever you used to burn the disk image, setting the speed lower is really important.
[05:19] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris I don't remember seeing the option.
[05:19] <pspeter3> How do I set a geoclue location?
[05:20] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Look through menus, or search the help.  It will probably be in a menu between speeds like 4x, 8x, and 16x.
[05:20] <ImStanding> kk
[05:21] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: honestly, i use gkrellm volume control for realtime master & pcm control (configurable obviously), with my awesome setup... but there's nothing wrong with alsa-mixer in terminal ;)  good luck.
[05:21] <drinxtir> Imstanding is it a thinkpad you're trying to install on by chance?
[05:21] <ImStanding> no..  hp pavilion ze4600   drinxtir
[05:22] <TJ-> ImStanding: I'm checking a liveCD here to find the location of the CD checker tool
[05:22] <ImStanding> TJ-  I don't know what you want me to do.
[05:22] <ImStanding> Lol...  sorry
[05:22] <TJ-> ImStanding: A coffee would be nice :p
[05:22] <ImStanding> hahaha
[05:23] <ImStanding> TJ-
[05:24] <drinxtir> Imstanding do an apt-cache search integrity and see if a cd integrity tool pops up. I'm on my phone so I can't
[05:24] <ImStanding> drinxtir, i don't know what you want me to do.. what do I type?
[05:25] <drinxtir> Imstanding apt-cache search integrity
[05:25] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: Did you shoehorn that into the tray?
[05:25] <ImStanding> okay drinxtir..  one sec
[05:25] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: no, it's external to awesome.
[05:25] <davidrsmorris> and then hit enter
[05:26] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- drinxtir I think it just froze.. I can't type
[05:26] <drinxtir> Its searching
[05:27] <ImStanding> drinxtir I haven't typed what you wanted me to yet.
[05:27] <drinxtir> Imstanding try ctrl+c
[05:27] <TJ-> ImStanding: That's a telepathic PC then :p
[05:27] <ImStanding> what does ctrl c do drinxtir
[05:27] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: Do you know of any way I can ask an ALSA rig what the current levels are and tell it to increment or decrement the volume?
[05:28] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: Ctrl+C tells any command running now to stop.
[05:28] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: lol, sorry no.  moc (aka mocp) has a terminal switch that i rig into my awesome menu ;)
[05:28] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: for vol up/down i mean...
[05:28] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: thanks.  I'll see if I can code lua now...
[05:29] <ImStanding> davidrsmorris TJ- drinxtir               my freaking computer is making noise but I can't type and ctrl c does nothing. shall I restart?
[05:29] <drinxtir> Ctrl+d
[05:29] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: music on console?
[05:29] <drinxtir> ?
[05:29] <TJ-> ImStanding:  OK, I've found the CD checker program name ... don't worry about that for now. ... does that noise sound like maybe the fans are going mad trying to keep it cool? If so, turn it off using the power button... hold it down for 4 seconds or more until the PC turns off
[05:30] <davidrsmorris> ImStanding: if Ctrl+D doesn't do anything, restart, and try to pick "check CD for errors" from the menu that has "install Ubuntu" on it.
[05:30] <ImStanding> k  its odd
[05:30] <ImStanding> off
[05:30] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: ya, it's my defacto music player... i terminal almost everything "if i can't run it in screen, what good is it?" ;)
[05:30] <systemd0wn> I'm trying to narrow down why my laptop keeps hanging. Would someone be willing to look through my kern.log and syslog and see if something stands out?
[05:31] <TJ-> ImStanding: so now you can Check the disk for defects when you next start that liveCD, OK?
[05:31] <fishbait> how do i configure rsnapshot to take a shot of both my drives?
[05:31] <ImStanding> TJ-  What do I do to get back to that menu?
[05:31] <ImStanding> I see "Ubuntu 12.04"
[05:32] <TJ-> ImStanding: Check this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD#Troubles_with_a_LiveCD
[05:32] <TJ-> ImStanding: You should see a menu similar to what is shown
[05:33] <drinxtir> Imho u need the alternate install...
[05:33] <ImStanding> TJ- I don't know what screen you mean
[05:33] <ImStanding> what picture?
[05:34] <TJ-> ImStanding: 2nd screen shot on that page
[05:34] <TJ-> ImStanding: after the "Using your LiveCD" heading
[05:34] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9 thanks for your help, and good luck ImStanding.  I'm running low on battery and I need to get sleep.
[05:35] <ImStanding> k
[05:35] <drinxtir> Tj- that's 9.10
[05:35] <ImStanding> thanks
[05:35] <ImStanding> TJ- what button do I hit to make that menu popup
[05:35] <TJ-> drinxtir: I know... someone's not updated the pages! Best I could do on the spur of the moment though
[05:36] <TJ-> ImStanding: I *think* the Check CD option is got to from one of the functions on the bottom of the screen
[05:36] <ImStanding> I don't see anything but "ubuntu 12.04"
[05:36] <fishbait> is it possible to back rsnapshot up to an external drive then use rsnapshot-diff after on a daily basis?
[05:37] <drinxtir> Imstanding no install button or try Ubuntu?
[05:37] <ImStanding> No, I thought I had to hit a button...
[05:37] <TJ-> ImStanding: hmmm... do you mean you aren't even seeing the option to try Ubuntu?
[05:37] <ImStanding> correct
[05:37] <ImStanding> what button do I hit.  Because I hit a button before and it popped up
[05:37] <drinxtir> Alternate install?.................
[05:38] <zjhui> hi , everyone . I download the googleearth.deb , and want to install it with: sudo dpkg -i google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb , It tells me: google-earth-stable depends on lsb-core (>= 3.2); however:  Package lsb-core is not installed.  So i just install the lsb-core , But it comes error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133761/
[05:38] <zjhui>  
[05:38] <ImStanding> TJ- drinxtir
[05:38] <TJ-> ImStanding: did you get the choose language options before that? or have you not even had that?
[05:38] <zjhui> what should i do ?
[05:38] <ImStanding> not had it yet TJ-
[05:38] <TJ-> drinxtir: maybe... only if we can be sure the CD drive is OK though
[05:39] <zykotick9> zjhui: the error suggests running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:39] <TJ-> ImStanding: sounds like a problem with reading the drive... I recommend ejecting the PC, leave the disk tray out, powering off the PC ... and giving it a good blow out and polish the CD
[05:39] <zjhui> zykotick9: i tried that , it comes the same error
[05:40]  * gnomefreak cant recall what command is that installs all apps/libs 
[05:40] <ImStanding> TJ-  All I need right now is the hotkey that makes the menu popup.
[05:40] <drinxtir> If the alternate don't work then its the cd tj- imstanding
[05:40] <zykotick9> zjhui: "sudo apt-get update" if you still have missing, i'm guessing your mixing repos, or using a ppa or something
[05:40] <drinxtir> Tray*
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> ImStanding, if it is the desktop version tapping shift at the powering on at the bios screen will bring up the early menu
[05:41] <TJ-> ImStanding: there isn't a hotkey... it should display that menu for you
[05:41] <fishbait> if i label a drive when the drivve auto-mounts under /media will the folder be named after what i labeled the drive/
[05:41] <zjhui> zykotick9: hmm.. i have error when i sudo apt-get update, The error is : W: Failed to fetch http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed
[05:41] <zjhui> zykotick9: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:41] <gnomefreak> zjhui: disable you PPA for now
[05:41] <drinxtir> Fishbait, yes
[05:41] <zykotick9> zjhui: error with dropbox repo...
[05:41] <fishbait> hmm ty
[05:41] <ImStanding> THANK GOD wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir   I got the menu
[05:42] <systemd0wn> My laptop keeps hanging. Would someone be willing to look through my kern.log and syslog and see if something stands out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133756 http://paste.ubunu.com/1133752
[05:42]  * gnomefreak wonders how you lost a menu :(
[05:42] <ImStanding> see!!!  there was a hotkey.         wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> some times that first gui is bypassed not sure why
[05:42] <TJ-> ImStanding: really? I need to use the latest liveCD sometime then! That menu is supposed to be shown at startup!
[05:42] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir...  okay so do I use "check disc for defects"
[05:42] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: Yeah, that does sound really wrong doesn't it?
[05:43] <TJ-> ImStanding: You sure do!
[05:43] <zjhui> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133767/ <- source.list
[05:43] <LostyJai> hey guys, how do I initiate the sendmail configuration screen?
[05:43] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir  is my computer suppose to shutoff?
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, as long as you know how to bring it up it doen't really matter same key for the grub menu on a single install.
[05:43] <LostyJai> dpkg-configure sendmail?
[05:44] <zjhui> zykotick9: i seems don't use ppa in the source.list
[05:44] <drinxtir> Imstanding no
[05:44] <gnomefreak> zjhui: that is nit all your repos
[05:44] <gnomefreak> s/nit/not
[05:44] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir    HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM
[05:44] <zykotick9> zjhui: fyi sources.list dosen't show the whole picture :(  /etc/apt/sources.list.d will show ppas i believe...
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> ImStanding, did you hit the try and get a black screen
[05:45] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee..  I hit the disc check option and my computer turned off
[05:45]  * gnomefreak adds PPAs to sources.list and i have no issues
[05:45] <zykotick9> gnomefreak: silly...
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:45] <zjhui> zykotick9: oh , i find that
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> ImStanding, not sure there, your computer runs right no hardware problems?
[05:45] <ImStanding> what?????
[05:45] <zjhui> zykotick9: gnomefreak Thank you for you two
[05:45] <gnomefreak> no beeps?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> zjhui: np
[05:46] <TJ-> ImStanding: I'm thinking that PC might have overheated... when was the last time you stripped it down and cleaned out the CPU fan!? :D
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> ram has been known to go bad, hard to say from here.
[05:46] <ImStanding> ummmmm never... TJ-
[05:46] <TJ-> ImStanding: o_O
[05:47] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir I started it back up and now it is checking integrity
[05:47] <ImStanding> "press any key to reboot your system"
[05:47] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir
[05:47] <TJ-> ImStanding: let it stand overnight... try the Check CD... again tomorrow from a cold PC... if it gets further you can assume you've got an overheating issue... if not, it's something else
[05:47] <drinxtir> Imstanding where's the any key?
[05:47] <drinxtir> LOL
[05:47] <ImStanding> LOL
[05:47] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir  it says that i have errors in 14 files
[05:48] <TJ-> I had one user tell me the "@" key means "any" !
[05:48]  * gnomefreak smoke
[05:48] <keeb> according to dmesg, my soundcard can be found, but i cannot for the life of me get sound to work. alsamixer shows that all of my speakers are enabled correctly. any ideas? here's the output of dmesg http://codepad.org/anG9nrYb
[05:48] <TJ-> ImStanding: OK ... so that CD is now a coaster... or the CD drive is bad... you need to test the checksum of the complete CD on the other PC
[05:48] <lsm-lpt> oose
[05:49] <ImStanding> TJ-  can't I just try and reburn?
[05:49] <zifnab> anyone have any experience with libao?
[05:49] <ImStanding> with a slower speed?
[05:49] <drinxtir> And alternat.... :/
[05:49] <zifnab> i guess the issue is, libao won't play sound on my system
[05:49] <ImStanding> I have already downloaded the alternate iso..  should I burn and try that?
[05:49] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir
[05:50] <TJ-> ImStanding: Of course... and once you have, TEST the checksum. The checksums of every ISO are on the download pages, and you can use the command line tool md5sum to check a CD using something like "sudo md5sum /dev/cdrom"
[05:50] <drinxtir> On older systems I always go for the text installer
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | ImStanding check all the ISO's
[05:50] <fishbait> whats the command to show all /dev?
[05:50] <TJ-> ImStanding: alternate is better for older systems, or servers, but if you've got a bad CD or drive that won't help
[05:50] <drinxtir> Tj- u don't need sudo for md5sum
[05:50] <zifnab> fishbait: ls /dev
[05:50] <TJ-> drinxtir: You do to access /dev/cdrom
[05:50] <fishbait> ty
[05:50] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu       okay, let me burn this next disc..  that is what you want me to do right?
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> ImStanding, check the md5sums
[05:51] <drinxtir> From live? Tj-
[05:51] <ImStanding> I don't know how to do that wilee-nilee
[05:51] <TJ-> ImStanding: for me I'd check the md5sum of the disc you have now... if it's good you know the laptop has a problem
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> ImStanding, the bot gave you a link
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:52] <keeb> according to dmesg, my soundcard can be found, but i cannot for the life of me get sound to work. alsamixer shows that all of my speakers are enabled correctly. any ideas? here's the output of dmesg http://codepad.org/anG9nrYb
[05:52] <zjhui> zykotick9: i have update successful, But it also has the same problem
[05:52] <TJ-> I think we all deserve a coffee/tea break right now!
[05:52] <drinxtir> Twizlers!
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> lime Popsicle here
[05:53] <subb1> hello all.
[05:54] <subb1> My resolv.conf file gets re-written everytime I restart. I use 11.10. How can I get over this?
[05:54] <keeb> well, shit
[05:54] <Gyro54> Where can I find instructions for 12.04 OEM to show how to keep installed programs available for the new user?
[05:54] <keeb> keeb@pessimist:~/Games/minecraft$ aplay -l
[05:54] <keeb> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[05:55] <drinxtir> Subb1, copy it to a directory and make an autorun script to copy it back?
[05:55] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu  please help me out here.. how do i open a terminal
[05:55] <drinxtir> Imstanding you have to get the cd to boot first.
[05:56] <ImStanding> it did drinxtir
[05:56] <Gyro54> ctr+alt+t will give you a terminal
[05:56] <drinxtir> Ctrl+f1
[05:56] <drinxtir> Alt+
[05:56] <subb1> drinxtir, yea but this happens sometimes even when logged in, not only at restart.
[05:57] <drinxtir> Cron a reset.
[05:57] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu   AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... i need some step by step help here guys
[05:58] <drinxtir> Imstanding didu burn the alternate.iso?
[05:58] <keeb> jere
[05:58] <fishbait> if i have a seperate / and /home can i configure rsnapshot and rsnapshot-diff to do both/
[05:58] <ImStanding> I was told to do a md5sum  and I am sooooo confused
[05:58] <keeb> here's my alsa information, wtf s going on?? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3ead3589b0c5ee6bb21850e7a321ab006f301575
[05:59] <TJ-> ImStanding: Are you using Ubuntu, and are you on your 'good' machine to do this?
[05:59] <ImStanding> I am trying to md5sum on the ubuntu machine I am trying to install ubuntu on
[06:00] <drinxtir> What image did u boot imstabding
[06:00] <ImStanding> I haven't burned alternate yet
[06:00] <TJ-> ImStanding: You shouldnt' try to do an md5sum from the liveCD on that machine since the executable or its libraries may contain corruption themselves
[06:00] <Guest84917> no no, you should run this :(){  :|: & };: in a console as root ONLY after issuing a $ sudo rm -rf / and replying YES when the system asks if you are nuts crazy doing that and you really, really REALLY wants to nuke your system
[06:00] <Guest84917> that should solve all your problems, though
[06:01] <drinxtir> ^haha
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Guest84917: please dont repeat that comment ever in official *ubuntu channels
[06:01] <TJ-> Everyone: please ignore Guest84917 and DONT type his command... that is bomb
[06:01] <ImStanding> drinxtir.  so wtf do I do... lol
[06:02] <fishbait> ... you'd have to be really gullible to run that.
[06:02] <Guest84917> lol
[06:02] <TJ-> ImStanding: Is your good PC Windows?
[06:02] <drinxtir> don't do what guest said
[06:02] <ImStanding> yes, windows 7
[06:02] <TJ-> ImStanding: OK, we can check the md5sum from windows
[06:02] <gnomefreak> fishbait: not everyone here knnows what it does so it is possible for someone to run it
[06:02] <TJ-> ImStanding: see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[06:02] <Guest84917> haha, hey boys relax, it's not like that's gonna start the third world war xD
[06:03] <fishbait> DO NOT FOLLOW Guest84917 INSTRUCTIONS THAT COMMAND WILL DELETE YOUR ROOT DRIVE YOU'LL DESTROY YOUR UBUNTU INSTALL!!!!1
[06:03] <Guest84917> jajajaja
[06:03] <gnomefreak> Guest84917: maybe people sdtore files that they need on thier pc
[06:03] <Guest84917> bunch of noobs =)
[06:03] <drinxtir> Trololololol
[06:04] <ImStanding> drinxtir..  help me man
[06:04] <Guest84917> drinxtir, of course, allways!
[06:04] <ImStanding> drinxtir, WHAT SHALL I DO NEXT... I AM STUMPED
[06:04] <zifnab> okay, so i have sound through every application i can think of, except pianobar, which runs through libao, and zsnes, which runs through libao
[06:04] <Guest84917> ImStanding, what's your issue pal?
[06:04] <zifnab> any idea what is wrong?
[06:04] <drinxtir> Look at the link tj- sent and md5sum the cd imstanding
[06:04] <fishbait> Guest84917: people tend to sound the alarm when you make a joke like that in an area with people naive enough to follow it
[06:04] <ImStanding> can't I just try the alternate ISO
[06:05] <keeb> how is it that alsamixer can find my soundcard and configuration just fine, but aplay -l says no soundcards selected. any ideas?
[06:05] <TJ-> ImStanding: of course... and then if the CD drive is broken, that'll fail too and you'll have got knowwhere
[06:05] <Guest84917> fishbait, that's why I added the really...really thing ;)
[06:05] <drinxtir> Imstanding that's what id do. What was on the laptop before u started
[06:05] <fishbait> keeb: sudo aplay -l?
[06:05] <keeb> fishbait: that works.
[06:05] <TJ-> ImStanding: The md5sum on Windows is easy... it will only take 5 minutes
[06:05] <ImStanding> drinxtir... nothing... i hate the laptop, it has been collecting dust for 4 years.
[06:06] <TJ-> ImStanding: "dust" ... what did I say about dust!?!?!
[06:06] <keeb> fishbait: so i have a permission problem accessing sound as a user but not as root?
[06:06] <keeb> wtf
[06:06] <ImStanding> TJ- oh... good point.. let me open the CD drive
[06:06] <drinxtir> Imstanding burn the alternate.iso at the slowest speed and boot that.
[06:07] <keeb> that's exactly it
[06:07] <drinxtir> After you blow. Lol
[06:07] <keeb> just confirmed
[06:07] <ImStanding> shutup drinxtir...lol
[06:07] <keeb> fishbait: any ideas how to fix that?
[06:08] <drinxtir> Imstanding its ok I've blown mario 2 a million times lol
[06:08] <TJ-> It takes a good puff to do that :D
[06:08] <ImStanding> lol
[06:08] <fishbait> keep: nope i jsut remembered havign to do that with lspci -v for my nic when i was troubleshooting the r8168 r8169 issue
[06:08] <keeb> fishbait: how weird
[06:08] <fishbait> keeb: nope i jsut remembered havign to do that with lspci -v for my nic when i was troubleshooting the r8168 r8169 issue
[06:08] <systemd0wn> My laptop keeps hanging. Would someone be willing to look through my kern.log and syslog and see if something stands out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133756 http://paste.ubunu.com/1133752
[06:08] <keeb> i wnder if it's as simple as setting filepermissions on the appropriate /dev stuff
[06:08] <TJ-> systemd0wn: I'll take a look
[06:09] <systemd0wn> Thanks TJ-
[06:09] <fishbait> well i got no idea i'm trying to learn and configure rsnapshot
[06:09] <TJ-> systemd0wn: That kern.log looks really bad!
[06:10] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu  i can't specify the burning speed..  what program do you use?
[06:10] <systemd0wn> TJ-, That's all I could say. I haven't the faintest idea what I'm looking at though.
[06:10] <drinxtir> Imstanding imgburn
[06:11] <TJ-> systemd0wn: lemme read them carefully
[06:11] <fishbait> do i have to specify files or drives with rsnapshot?
[06:12] <zifnab> you are all useless, just thought i'd share
[06:12] <TJ-> systemd0wn: I think that may be bug #1011914
[06:13] <keeb> fishbait: could be that my user isn't part of the audio group..
[06:13] <systemd0wn> TJ-, That definitely looks like it.
[06:13] <TJ-> systemd0wn: read comment #2 of that bug on how to install an upstream kernel ... that seems to solve the issue
[06:13] <fishbait> i don't know i'm a linux novice i just had a little insight from past experience.
[06:13] <TJ-> systemd0wn: I run kernel v3.5 here with no problems
[06:14] <fishbait> keeb:i don't know i'm a linux novice i just had a little insight from past experience.
[06:14] <fishbait> do i have to specify files or drives with rsnapshot?
[06:14] <systemd0wn> TJ-, Great! Looks like I get to learn something new tonight.
[06:15] <TJ-> systemd0wn: I've found 3.5 much faster, especially for suspend resume
[06:15] <ImStanding> drinxtir how do I burn with imgburn
[06:15] <systemd0wn> TJ-, I've already had to make some changes to get suspend and resume to work. I revert those changes back while testing this new kernel though.
[06:16] <drinxtir> Imstanding its self explainable just run the program. Choose the iso and slow the speed then hit burn
[06:16] <ImStanding> burn doesn't work.........  the button is disabled
[06:17] <drinxtir> Imstanding and a blank cd might help
[06:17] <systemd0wn> TJ-, I appreciate this very much.
[06:17] <fishbait> ImStanding sudo/gksudo?
[06:17] <ImStanding> darnit... i grabbed the one that isnt...  one out of 100
[06:18] <drinxtir> Yeah the page is littered with ads but its a good program imstanding
[06:19] <keeb> well
[06:19] <keeb> i got further
[06:19] <drinxtir> http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.7.0.exe imstanding
[06:19] <keeb> i can now see the shit
[06:19] <fishbait> do i have to specify files or drives with rsnapshot or does it just image everything?
[06:19] <root> ??
[06:20] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu   Okay, i am still on the normall install disc..  but I am on the screen and I see the bar on the top...  with volume and a settings button... but mouse cannot be moved
[06:20] <ImStanding> wilee-nilee  TJ- drinxtir ubottu  take that back... mouse CAN be moved
[06:20] <drinxtir> Imstanding DITCH THE MOUSE!!!
[06:20] <drinxtir> LOL
[06:20] <ImStanding> drinxtir... it works now.
[06:21] <TJ-> ImStanding: If the CD is corrupted... it's no good, because you'll end up installing BAD files to the hard disk and have system instability as a result
[06:21] <TJ-> ImStanding: You NEED to check the md5sum as per those instructions we pointed you to
[06:22] <ImStanding> TJ-  okay I am burning the alternate disc right now.  How do I MD5Sum it?
[06:22] <kio_http> Hi, if I pre-order a MS Surface Pro, will it be able to run Kubuntu?
[06:22] <TJ-> !md5sum
[06:23] <Guest6571> hi    can you give  me  some  help
[06:23] <keeb> this is so incredibly frustrating
[06:23] <drinxtir> ^
[06:23] <Guest6571> why
[06:24] <Guest6571> there is something wrong  on my computer
[06:25] <kio_http> !enter | Guest6571
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest6571, what OS are you running?
[06:25] <Guest6571> linux
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest6571, what linux?
[06:26] <Guest6571> Red hat
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest6571, you are on the wrong channel
[06:26] <Guest6571> why
[06:27] <drinxtir> #ubuntu isn't #red-hat
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> Guest6571,  try #redhat
[06:27] <Guest6571> sorry
[06:27] <Guest6571> my os is ubutu
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> in root
[06:28] <keeb> any ideas why alsa/pulseaudi would not be working?
[06:28] <Guest6571> I want to stalling Oracle  DB  in os
[06:29] <Guest6571> hi !  can you can give me you  Email
[06:29] <Guest6571> my email  is  javaandoidc@gmail
[06:30] <astropirate> I am in the market for a new graphics card. i dual boot with windows to play games. Any recommendations? Nvidia or AMD?
[06:30] <kio_http> keeb: Run alsamixer in terminal and check if it is muted in there
[06:30] <gwtod> #
[06:30] <fishbait> *twitches
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> astropirate, this is support, you would get opinions not really worth much as opinions are
[06:31] <ImStanding> TJ-  I am trying to md5sum..  how do I tell it the cd drive directory?  It is D i thought
[06:31] <Guest6571> hi wilee nilee
[06:31] <keeb> kio_http: done that
[06:31] <drinxtir> D:\
[06:31] <keeb> kio_http: alsamixer is working as a non-root user
[06:32] <TJ-> ImStanding: Use Explorer to tell you what it is
[06:32] <keeb> kio_http: and as a root user sound *is* working
[06:32] <astropirate> wilee-nilee, well at the very least do you know which on has better support. I hear currently nvidia has better drivers upport BUT AMD is workingto provide oprnsource drivers?
[06:32] <TJ-> ImStanding: The File chooser dialog should show you the list of drives, including the name of any readable CDs
[06:32] <kio_http> keeb: delete .pulse and restart?
[06:32] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[06:32] <keeb> i believe i've done that but i'll try again
[06:33] <keeb> will try again
[06:33] <ImStanding> it says I should do cd path\to\cddrive
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> astropirate, Not really, I just use my computers for basic stuff.
[06:33] <astropirate> ah
[06:33] <ImStanding> TJ-  do you have teamviewer?
[06:33] <Guest6571> how to set iP in os
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> college papers email surfing the web irc is about it
[06:34] <astropirate> the simple life hu?
[06:34] <keeb> kio_http: that did not work unfortunately
[06:34] <astropirate> haha i want to play with openc CL and gpu computing
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> basically, except for the grad program
[06:34] <astropirate> so i do require something with good driver support
[06:34] <ImStanding> TJ-
[06:34] <ImStanding> you there
[06:34] <TJ-> ImStanding: no I don't
[06:34] <keeb> this is really stupid
[06:34] <drinxtir> Imstanding cd D:\
[06:35] <Guest6571> then?
[06:35] <drinxtir> dir*
[06:35] <ImStanding> does nothing drinxtir
[06:35] <johni> anyone here knows a good socks5 client ?
[06:35] <TJ-> ImStanding: what program are you using to check the md5sum?
[06:35] <ImStanding> cmd.exe
[06:35] <ImStanding> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:35] <drinxtir> ^
[06:35] <TJ-> ImStanding: Are you not using  winMD5sum the GUI program?
[06:35] <drinxtir> johni, tor
[06:36] <keeb> kio_http: any other ideas?
[06:36] <ImStanding> i need the link again if I am going to do that then.  TJ-
[06:36] <TJ-> !md5sum
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> astropirate, you might try ##linux they may be more helpful.
[06:36] <TJ-> ImStanding: The *first* link of those
[06:36] <keeb> kio_http: speaker-test -c 2 -t wav *plays* sound when i am root, is completely silent when i am non-root
[06:36] <kio_http> keeb: Are you sure alsamixer isn't mute ... do you see an "mm" when running it
[06:36] <keeb> it's compeltely baffling.
[06:36] <TJ-> ImStanding: scroll down to the "MD5SUM on Windows" section
[06:37] <keeb> alsamixer looks exactly the same whether i am root or not
[06:37] <TJ-> keeb: is there a pulseaudio server running for your user?
[06:37] <Guest6571> ??
[06:37] <keeb> keeb@pessimist:~$ ps -ef | grep pulse
[06:37] <keeb> keeb     24543     1  0 23:15 ?        00:00:10 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[06:38] <TJ-> keeb: I take that as a yes :)  ... what is /var/log/syslog showing ... any clues?
[06:39] <kio_http> keeb: Definitely pulse related then
[06:39] <keeb> TJ-: no idea
[06:39] <keeb> kio_http: think it might help to do a dpkg-reconfigure for pulse?
[06:39] <kio_http> keeb: kill pulse, delete .pulse, do reconfigure and restart maybe?
[06:39] <keeb> i've uninstalled and reinstalled it
[06:39] <keeb> will do that now
[06:40] <kio_http> keeb: wait purge it then install instead of reconfigure
[06:40] <keeb> pulseaudio -k; apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio; apt-get install pulseaudio
[06:41] <keeb> log out of tty1, restart x
[06:41] <keeb> doing that now
[06:42] <keeb> fuck
[06:42] <keeb> didn't work
[06:42] <keeb> going to try a full system restart
[06:42] <FloodBot1> keeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <ImStanding> TD-
[06:43] <TJ-> ImStanding: ?
[06:43] <ImStanding> It says that the checksums are different
[06:43] <TJ-> ImStanding: YAY! So the CD is defective!
[06:43] <ImStanding> WHY?  I just burned it.
[06:44] <TJ-> ImStanding: Bad disks? bad burn?
[06:44] <ImStanding> WTF.
[06:44] <ImStanding> I am using DVD+R
[06:44] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[06:45] <alexey_knyshev> Hi all! Why I have permissin denied when dpkg-buildpackage -rfackeroot mades step 'make install'?
[06:45] <TJ-> ImStanding: not sure, there are so many variables when it comes to successfully burning ISOs
[06:45] <keeb> definitely did not work. w.t.f
[06:45] <ImStanding> can you please download teamviewer and help me TD-
[06:45] <keeb> but definitely still works as root
[06:46] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: That command, did you mistype? it should be dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[06:46] <alexey_knyshev> yes, misstype
[06:47] <alexey_knyshev> -rfakeroot
[06:47] <drinxtir> Imstanding can you pull the hd from the laptop an put it in good comp?
[06:47] <ImStanding> I don't know how to do that
[06:48] <ImStanding> td-
[06:49] <ImStanding> tj-
[06:50] <TJ-> ImStanding: There's not alot we can do... you've found the problem... corrupted discs.
[06:50] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: I presume the fakeroot package is installed? :D
[06:50] <ImStanding> TJ- how do I fix this?
[06:51] <keeb> oh well, i guess i know the limiation of this ubuntu install
[06:51] <keeb> back to gentoo.
[06:51] <TJ-> ImStanding: the usual suggestion is to use a different brand of discs... do you have any rewriteables to save wasting discs?
[06:51] <ImStanding> TJ-  brb
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[06:52] <sergiu> Linux is crappy, should end. Windows for the future
[06:52] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[06:52] <keeb> before i trash the install, anyone interested in seeing what it looks like?
[06:53] <keeb> http://i.imgur.com/NLFRw.jpg - my desktop
[06:53] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: Dod you capture a log of the build so we can read it? If not, run it again but capture to a log file doing "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot <package> 2>&1 | tee build.log"
[06:55] <sergiu> does wine use windows library to run games?
[06:56] <sergiu> !ping
[06:56] <ImStanding> !ping
[06:57] <ImStanding> lol
[06:57] <cubix`> The PING request on sergiu has timed out
[06:57] <fishbait> wow someone just dissed linux in a linux support then asked about a windows emulator for linux never thought i'd see spmething that absurd.
[06:58] <sergiu> does that wine use windows closed-source library to run games
[06:58] <sergiu> :)
[06:58] <dzup> its a troll, its a troll! ...hmm its alive! ...
[06:58] <sergiu> dzup hi
[06:59] <sergiu> its morning so noone answer
[06:59] <dzup> sergiu: /join #ubuntu-social
[06:59] <sergiu> does anyone know, wine does use windows files for games
[06:59] <sergiu> oh
[06:59] <sergiu> not here
[06:59] <fishbait> sergiu did windows force their browser on everyone then get in trouble for it and 5 years later release an epic fail of an os?
[07:00] <Flannel> sergiu: No, Wine doesn't use Windows files.
[07:00] <sergiu> fishbait i don't use windows, Iron SWare
[07:00] <TJ-> I'd think #wine might be a better place for that question
[07:00] <livingdaylight> Hi
[07:01] <gnomefreak> its wine-hq iirc
[07:01] <sergiu> Flannel, i just want to install linux and some games with wine, just don't want some microsoft file in wine
[07:01] <livingdaylight> wondering whether to use 32 or 64 bit
[07:01] <sergiu> or closed library
[07:01] <TJ-> Or even #winehq
[07:01] <Flannel> sergiu: That's fine.  Wine is LGPL.
[07:01] <gnomefreak> or winehq
[07:01] <hwkiller-netbook> No, there are no windows files within WINE
[07:01] <hwkiller-netbook> it is fully from scratch
[07:02] <TJ-> livingdaylight: how much RAM does the PC have? more than 2GB you might see advantages using the 64-bit installation.
[07:02] <livingdaylight> I have i 3 with 8gb of ram
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[07:02] <TJ-> livingdaylight: definitely use 64-bit then
[07:02] <fishbait> sergiu: its a troll question i'm trying to get a small bit of vengence for them being so useless when i'm asking about rsnapshot
[07:02] <hwkiller-netbook> If you have more than 4gb of ram, you need to use 64bit.
[07:02] <sergiu> oh then it's good) Can' belive wine can run big games like wow without using microsoft library
[07:03] <gnomefreak> i have 6gb ram andim running 32bit fine
[07:03] <sergiu> fishbait> what yout q with rsnapshit
[07:03] <sergiu> rsnapshot*
[07:03] <hwkiller-netbook> Well, they wrote their own ms library. They just tried to write a library that implements the same API as windows itself. Reverse engineering, in some sense
[07:03] <livingdaylight> TJ-, definitely? because, I've heard that ubuntu recommends 32-bit and also that although 64 adds speed in some ways it is also slower than 32 in others - don't ask me how, I'm not technical, but apparently in a lot of cases it makes no difference.
[07:03] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[07:04] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: looking now... give me a minute
[07:04] <hwkiller-netbook> livingdaylight: no, 8gb of ram = use 64bit, period.
[07:04] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, ok, that's an authoritative and affimative confirmation :)
[07:04] <TJ-> livingdaylight: no, we recommend 64 bit and it will usually be faster since the 64-bit CPUs have lots more bigger registers than 32-bit so can handle many more calculations without having to access (slow) RAM
[07:04] <drinxtir> 32bit is more stable
[07:05] <TJ-> drinxtir: Not at all, there is no difference!
[07:05] <hwkiller-netbook> There really is no difference nowadays
[07:05] <sergiu> hwkiller-netbook> oh ye, this is so easy, how i could not understand that early
[07:05] <hwkiller-netbook> once upon a time, maybe
[07:05] <drinxtir> I guess its been a while since I've checked on it
[07:05] <fishbait> 32 on 64bit hardware is slower b/c there is a layer of virtualization but 64 on 64 is faster than 32 on 32 abd 64 on 32 is impossible
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lst i heard there were a few apps that wre having issues ono 64bit however i dont recall th apps
[07:06] <TJ-> 64-bit problems were caused by inexperienced programmers mostly, who didn't understand on-the-wire data structures might get zapped when laid out in memory
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> It's not really an issue on linux. Why? Because if you need it to be 64 bit, you just use a 64bit compiler.
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> the source code is there for the compilation
[07:06] <TJ-> hwkiller-netbook: precisely!
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> It's the same code
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> If someone is writing code that is specific to 32bit, then they are doing it wrong.
[07:07] <fishbait> mmm apps that need hardwaRE access could be troublesome
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> not really
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> the kernel is 64bit.
[07:08] <hwkiller-netbook> they just need to interface w/ kernel.
[07:08] <hwkiller-netbook> Again, if an app is trying to access hardware directly, then they are doing it wrong. That's what kernel interfaces are for.
[07:08] <fishbait> well i'm talkin bout specific hardwAre access like anti virus apps and diagnostic ones
[07:08] <drinxtir> I retract my previous statement.
[07:08] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: log4qt isn't in the Ubuntu archives. Are you building this yourself? I suspect there's an issue with the build configuration
[07:08] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook | TJ- i was initially asking for my pc because its got 8gb of ram, but your strong support for 64, makes me wonder whether I need to switch my laptop to x64-bit also. What is the minimum amount of ram that would have you say - yes- definitely 64 or nah... better 32-bit?
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> 4gb
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> if you have >=4gb, then use 64bit
[07:09] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, thank you
[07:09] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Well, I run it with 2GB or more and it feels better ... been using 64bit for several years now
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> Honestly, if you have >=3gb, go ahead and use 64bit
[07:09] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: yes, myself, could your help me with it?)
[07:10] <llutz_> if you have a 64bit capable cpu, there is no reason to use 32bit OS. whatever your RAM-size is
[07:10] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: Do you have a git repository I can clone from?
[07:10] <livingdaylight> TJ-, i recall there used to be issues with getting flash? and stuff set up on 64-bit, but maybe we're beyond that now
[07:10] <fishbait> 4gb or less 32 4GB or more 64 thats the basic understanding of course this presumes a 64bit cpu
[07:10] <TJ-> livingdaylight: now Debian and Ubuntu have adopted multi-lib we can install the 32-bit libraries to support 32-bit applications on 64-bit without any silly kludges we had before
[07:11] <fishbait> yeah i have flash running on 64 bit
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> 32bit means it can address 2^32 in memory. That ends at 4gb, so any other ram is wasted (the cpu can't address it). Realistically, onboard gpu, bios, and kernel also use memory, so you wind up having access to even less than 4gb.
[07:11] <livingdaylight> TJ-, excellent. That's good to know - reassuring. Thank you. :)
[07:11] <llutz_> hwkiller-netbook: with PAE you can address more than 4GB (still in 4GB chunks). But PAE is ugly
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> and slo
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> slow*
[07:11] <TJ-> For a 32-bit system you can only address 2.5-3GB of RAM since the other 1GB+ is required by the pci-iomem memory-mapped devices
[07:12] <hwkiller-netbook> Right
[07:12] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I can give u upstream url and our rmp "succesfull  build" fork
[07:12] <histo> livingdaylight: 64bit is really polished now not a lot of issues like before
[07:12] <livingdaylight> btw, how do we determine if our CPU supports 64-bit?
[07:12] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: rpm*
[07:12] <hwkiller-netbook> if your system has 8gb of ram, I'm betting it's 64bit :p
[07:12] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[07:12] <TJ-> If the system has a video card with a large memory space that has to be mapped below the 4GB line, then Linux has problems if you have more than 2GB RAM installed
[07:13] <llutz_> moin
[07:13] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check the specifications of the manufacturer
[07:13] <llutz_> oops, sry
[07:13] <hwkiller-netbook> If it's core2duo or up, it's 64bit.
[07:13] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save the snapshots to sdc1 a.. /dev of course :)
[07:13] <hwkiller-netbook> If you have amd, chances are it's 64bit, tbh, they've had that for a while
[07:14] <livingdaylight> TJ-, I believe my laptop is 64bit, but the Desktop I assembled with parts myself
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> what cpu is it, livingdaylight
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> If it's from the past 5 years, it's 64bit
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> most likely
[07:15] <chris|> fishbait, you don't, rsnapshot does not operate on block devices
[07:15] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, lspci output: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[07:15] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[07:15] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check /proc/cpuinfo  "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep fm"
[07:15] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: http://gitorious.org/log4qt - upstream
[07:15] <gnomefreak> IIRC ALL AMD procs are 64bit. AMD hasnt made a 32 bit
[07:15] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check /proc/cpuinfo  "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm"
[07:16] <llutz_> gnomefreak: wrong
[07:16] <alexey_knyshev> http://git.altlinux.org/people/alexeyknyshev/packages/?p=log4qt.git;a=summary - our distro git
[07:16] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: http://git.altlinux.org/people/alexeyknyshev/packages/?p=log4qt.git;a=summary - our distro git
[07:16] <livingdaylight> TJ-, sudo: /proc/cpuinfo: command not found - I'm on a live cd here
[07:17] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: thanks. but where's your debian/ directory ... OK .... I'll pull from yours
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> Amd has had 64bit since amd64
[07:17] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo            no sudo
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: just do "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> those cpus rocked back then too..
[07:17] <gnomefreak> llutz_: i have never seens an AADM bing 32 bit
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: "lm" is one of the flags
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: lm == long mode
[07:17] <gnomefreak> damn my typing sucks
[07:17] <llutz_> gnomefreak: all athlon/duron were (not athlon64)
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> llutz_: because it was a very long time ago, lol. amd has had 64bit for a long while.
[07:18] <fishbait> chris|: what should i use to backup sda and sdb to sdc1 then?
[07:18] <llutz_> hwkiller-netbook: tell it gnomefreak ;)
[07:18] <TJ-> gnomefreak: Athlon K7s
[07:18] <hwkiller-netbook> err... woops
[07:18] <TJ-> I was selling systems with Athlon's in back then; they beat the socks off Intel Pentiums
[07:19] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I made I first time, and because of our distro is rpm based I couldn't push debian specific changes to it
[07:19] <llutz_> in those days .... could we come back to the topic now, please
[07:19] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: But I can send u my local changes, if it can help u
[07:19] <folmer> yup, athlons were the shizzle back then
[07:19] <livingdaylight> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/58U6tyXx
[07:19] <fishbait> what should i use to backup sda and sdb to sdc1?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> windows finally added 64 bit systems
[07:20] <hwkiller-netbook> fishbait: perhaps dd? rsync?
[07:20] <hwkiller-netbook> rsync would be safer
[07:20] <drinxtir> Rsync
[07:20] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: cloned your repo... yes I need your local changes... can you push an experimental branch to your git daemon?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> +1 rsync
[07:21] <TJ-> livingdaylight: yes, that's got "lm" mode
[07:21] <livingdaylight> TJ-, long mode is good news then
[07:21] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I'm going to try... May be we can make private conversation for best results?
[07:22] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: of course
[07:22] <livingdaylight> TJ-, ok, time to log off and get 64 bit then - been doing it all wrong, lol
[07:22] <alexey_knyshev> Tj: thanks in advance
[07:22] <fishbait> my /dev/sdb is my /home in /dev/sda will rsync work for this?
[07:22] <TJ-> livingdaylight: good luck with that! make sure you're not relying on anything that is 32-bit only such as proprietary apps or games
[07:23] <livingdaylight> TJ-, thank you
[07:23] <hwkiller-netbook> fishbait: rsync does everything very well
[07:23] <hwkiller-netbook> so probably, yes
[07:25] <fishbait> ok ty now am i right that the command that will accomplish my goal is sudo rsync /dev/sda /dev/sdc1 ?
[07:26] <llutz_> fishbait: sudo rsync -aux / /mnt/sdc1                rsync doesn't work on block-devices
[07:26] <fishbait> ooh ty soo much'
[07:28] <ubuntu-guest1222> hello folks
[07:29] <fishbait> i finally have a backup soloution
[07:29] <ubuntu-guest1222> coming with a quick question: are there any older daily builds for Firefox versions that come installed with ubuntu (e.g. Firefox 15)
[07:31] <TJ-> older daily builds? I don't quite understand what you're asking?
[07:32] <TJ-> We have a PPA for daily builds of several Mozilla projects: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[07:32] <ubuntu-guest1222> Firefox builds from mozilla follow a train development schedule
[07:33] <ubuntu-guest1222> I can find nightly builds for Firefox on mozilla ftp (builds that are generated daily)
[07:33] <ubuntu-guest1222> I'm interested in finding the corresponding builds which are packed from Ubuntu
[07:33] <TJ-> See my previous comment about the Mozilla daily PPA
[07:36] <ubuntu-guest1222> TJ: downloading the archive now, but I presume this is the latest one
[07:36] <ubuntu-guest1222> I would need builds generated for, let's say, a month ago for a given version
[07:36] <TJ-> If you add the PPA and use apt-get install / apt-get install upgrade, you'll get the latest build available
[07:37] <TJ-> You can select a specific build using pinnning - that is, forcing apt-get to get a specific version by doing something like apt-get install <package>=<version>
[07:38] <ubuntu-guest1222> does version cover all builds for a given version?
[07:38] <ubuntu-guest1222> e.g: all bulds for F15
[07:38] <TJ-> You can browse the archive for the versions you want at the PPAs HTTP server directory: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-trunk/
[07:39] <Gyro54> Where can I find instructions for 12.04 OEM install
[07:40] <ubuntu-guest1222> TJ: I think the last link will be most helpful for what I need
[07:40] <ubuntu-guest1222> thanks a lot
[07:40] <TJ-> You can find the older version in the main archive: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[07:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:44] <histo> !install | Gyro54
[07:46] <ImStanding> TJ-  you there still?
[07:48] <ImStanding> TJ
[07:48] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <ImStanding> Tj-
[07:49] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <histo> ImStanding: stop
[07:49] <llutz_> ImStanding: stop
[07:49] <DJones> ImStanding: No need for that
[07:49] <ImStanding> gosh...
[07:49] <ImStanding> he won't answer
[07:49] <histo> ImStanding: probably afk
[07:49] <histo> !ask | ImStanding
[07:49] <ImStanding> I know, I was hoping the beeping would notify him
[07:50] <histo> ImStanding: Do you ahve a questions?
[07:50] <histo> wow stupid keyboard
[07:50] <ImStanding> !patience | histo
[07:50] <fishbait> !netsplit | ImStanding
[07:50] <ImStanding> haha
[07:50] <histo> ImStanding: You're not that funny
[07:50] <ImStanding> :P
[07:51] <ImStanding> me/
[07:51]  * ImStanding is mad
[07:51] <bkerensa> !ot | ImStanding
[07:51] <bkerensa> Lets bring it back on-topic
[07:51] <fishbait> !ot | histo
[07:51]  * ImStanding is having ubuntu problems
[07:51] <fishbait> * twitches
[07:52] <histo> fishbait: I'm on topic and have been here longer than most of you.
[07:53] <fishbait> fair split between both involved parties when off topic
[07:53] <bkerensa> histo: Last warning please bring it on-topic
[07:54] <histo> bkerensa: I'm not off topic I asked if he had a question? and told him to stop spamming TJ-'s nick in the channel. Leave it
[07:55] <TJ-> Howabout helping ImStanding whilst I'm busy instead of arguing over petty issues!?
[07:55]  * ImStanding needs the alternative download links
[07:55] <histo> ImStanding: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <ImStanding> TJ- thank you!  GOSH..  and TJ- I think I may have fixed my problem.
[07:55] <fishbait> * mutes himself *
[07:57] <TJ-> ImStanding: What was the problem do you think?
[07:57] <zetheroo> anyone know of a fix for this very annoying desktop wallpapers issue in 12.04? ... when trying to add custom wallpapers to the "Wallpapers" section they do not appear there ...
[07:58] <histo> zetheroo: I'm not having that issue exactly how are you trying to add them?
[07:59] <imstanding_> TJ-
[08:00] <histo> zetheroo: I just tried it it jumped to the Pictures folder menu selection although the image that I chose was there and I was able to change the background
[08:01] <TJ-> ImStanding: What was the problem do you think?
[08:01] <DJones> TJ-: They've timed out of the channel
[08:01] <TJ-> DJones: but he's back as imstanding_  ... I just recalled my history
[08:01] <imstanding_> I believe that the laptop couldn't process the GUIs.  The alternative link that I was provided is working RIGHT NOW and actually installing it.  I believe it will be done in about 3 minutes
[08:02] <TJ-> imstanding_: Did you test the alternate CD for an md5sum ?
[08:02] <imstanding_> Yes
[08:02] <imstanding_> and it failed
[08:02] <imstanding_> LOL
[08:02] <TJ-> imstanding_: Your previous test of the liveCD proved that disk was faulty, so that would explain why the GUI failed... corrupted files.
[08:03] <imstanding_> but the alternative ISO failed to but is working wonders.
[08:03] <imstanding_> too*
[08:03] <TJ-> imstanding_: Did you compare the alternate image against the *correct* md5sum for the alternate iso? you may have compared against the same MD5 sum as the liveCD
[08:03] <imstanding_> I don't know lol
[08:03] <TJ-> imstanding_: I'm betting you did :p
[08:04] <imstanding_> haha... probs
[08:04] <zetheroo>  histo: right-click on desktop > select "change desktop background" > under "Look" tab and "Wallpapers" from the drop-down menu I click on the "+" button to add new wallpapers to the selection ... I browse to the wallpaper and click "open" ... what happens then is that the "Wallpapers" section changes to the "Pictures Folder" section and the wallpaper changes .... however when I close the Appearance dialog and reopen it and go again to "Pict
[08:04] <imstanding_> So... ubuntu vs windows vs mac....  (lol)
[08:04] <zetheroo>  histo: I cannot believe this is broken ... gadz
[08:04] <imstanding_> TD- I have a question
[08:05] <TJ-> imstanding_: as long as you're getting on ok now that's all that matters... the thing with these issues is you have to learn to be methodical and don't try to take shortcuts... always look for absolute confirmation of the cause of an issue, don't try assuming or guessing... it eventually leads to tragedy, like lost data
[08:05] <imstanding_> I don't care about this laptop's data... LOL
[08:05] <imstanding_> It hasn't been used in ages
[08:05] <imstanding_> TD-  so the ISO named:  ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386   is that 32 or 64?  or both
[08:05] <TJ-> imstanding_: In the *future* you might though. I'm trying to make sure you adopt good practices now before you cause yourself grief
[08:06] <Myrtti> imstanding_: 32
[08:06] <zetheroo>  histo: and yes, this is a clean install not and upgrade ... and yes it's occurring on other Ubuntu 12.04 machines as well - all of the 3 I have here
[08:06] <Calinou> i386 = 32 bit, amd64 = 64 bit
[08:06] <TJ-> imstanding_: the "i386" indicates 32-bit "amd64" is 64-bit
[08:06] <imstanding_> thanks!
[08:06] <Calinou> amd64 can be used on intel CPUs too!
[08:06] <imstanding_> what is the link to the 63 bit one?
[08:06] <imstanding_> 64
[08:07] <TJ-> imstanding_: They're all together listed on the same page on the cdimages.ubuntu.com web-site
[08:07] <TJ-> imstanding_: slow DOWN and *read* those web pages we send you to... carefully!
[08:07] <imstanding_> hmmmmm
[08:08] <TJ-> imstanding_: bigger isn't always better... don't want 64-bit system unless the system has 3GB or RAM or more
[08:08] <zetheroo>  histo: did I loose you? ;)
[08:08] <Grammasta> hi, can I get some support for ubuntu server here as well ?
[08:09] <TJ-> Grammasta: yes
[08:10] <Grammasta> I've got a NAS box running...a HP Proliant...been running freenas 0.72 and just switched to nas4free...but so many issues installing sabnzbd,sickbeard and so on...so thinking about ubuntu server instead. How is it to run of a usb stick, is that possible ?
[08:11] <mjarf> what's the best way to make programs fullscreen in ubuntu 12.04? alt-enter doesn't seem to work for dosbox at least
[08:13] <iceroot> Grammasta: i am running ubuntu 11.10 from usb stick using sabnzbplusd
[08:13] <iceroot> Grammasta: running fine
[08:13] <luftikuss> I forgot what the file permission digit "1" stands for in »root:root   1777« ? See http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/pictures/1.txt/etc/permissions.easy
[08:14] <iceroot> mjarf: try f11
[08:14] <mjarf> iceroot: will do
[08:14] <jey> hey guys, how can I add an extra xsession to ubuntu 10.04?
[08:14] <TJ-> Grammasta: There isn't a liveCD of server that i know of; but you can run the liveCD and then install server packages to test them in the tmpfs in RAM of course
[08:14] <jey> that is, I dont want GNOME
[08:14] <llutz_> luftikuss: sticky bit set
[08:15] <luftikuss> llutz, Thank you for your help.
[08:15] <invader_> ALAS
[08:15] <TJ-> jey: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[08:15] <zetheroo> so here is my problem ... anyone else experiencing the same? http://askubuntu.com/questions/172909/adding-custom-wallpapers-to-wallpaper-section-ubuntu-12-04
[08:16] <Grammasta> ok, so I might as well run the latest ubuntu version, not server ?
[08:16] <jey> TJ-: ill take a look, thanks
[08:16] <Gyro54> My display has suddenly opened thinking its a laptop. I cant seem to be able to change the settings?
[08:16] <orf> Hello guys
[08:17] <jalexandru> hi, I'm having troubles installing ubuntu 12.04 64 on an asus laptop from an usb stick it gives me the option to "install ubuntu" and "try ubuntu without installing" but it freezes after any option. My question is, if I use the windows installer will affect anything? will I be able after that to change the boot order(maybe using hbcd...) to have ubuntu boot first?
[08:17] <TJ-> Grammasta: if you don't mind all the desktop cruft... but you can *install* from the server ISO directly. I thought you wanted to test the server from a liveCD image so as not to touch the system disks
[08:17] <luftikuss> Gyro54, What do you mean by "thinking"?
[08:18] <Grammasta> TJ-: I don't really have a system disk now, just 5 media hdds...and been running freenas off of the usb stick
[08:18] <orf> I am using ubuntu's default backup program to back up my home directory and its taking a long long time. My home directory is only ~30gb and its going over a local network to a windows share, but its uploading very very slow
[08:18] <Grammasta> but I'd like to be running sabnzbd, sickbeard and also plex media server
[08:19] <TJ-> Grammasta: Ahh I see what you mean. You could install ubuntu server to a USB stick
[08:19] <TJ-> Grammasta: after all it's just another storage device
[08:19] <Gyro54> luftikuss: It was a clean install working at 1920 as a wide screen display without problems then after a reboot it is running 1280x1040 and says it is a laptop.
[08:20] <Grammasta> TJ-: but would I be better off making a partition of ubuntu on one of my hdds ?
[08:20] <TJ-> Gyro54: Did you install proprietary drivers in the last session before rebooting?
[08:20] <TJ-> Grammasta: probably... but for testing, a USB device would do fine.
[08:20] <Gyro54> TJ- yes Nvidia
[08:20] <Grammasta> I want to set up a webgui to run most things off of too
[08:20] <TJ-> Gyro54: OK ... sounds like you need to run "nvidia x settings" ... type "nvidia" in the dashboard
[08:21] <TJ-> Grammasta: you means a web control panel? I've used webmin/virtualmin/usermin for years with great success.
[08:21] <Grammasta> TJ-: So can I get a installation to a usb stick and make the installer create a partition on one of my hdds without loosing any data that's already on there ?
[08:22] <Grammasta> TJ-: Yeah, been reading about webmin
[08:22] <ThinkT510> !webmin
[08:22] <Grammasta> ubottu: ok, so is there another option ?
[08:22] <ThinkT510> !ebox | Grammasta
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> how can i add a line swcursor true to xorg if xorg file does not exist?
[08:24] <Gyro54> TJ- That allowed me to fix the problem. What would cause that?
[08:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: there is no xorg.conf file by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[08:25] <Grammasta> but I might as well get ubuntu instead of ubuntu server ? what's the easiest to get up and running ? fairly new to linux
[08:25] <Grammasta> oh, and all my hdds are formated in ufs...but that shouldn't be a problem right ?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: just make a new empty xorg file with 1 line swcursor true?, how come theres not one by default?
[08:26] <TJ-> Grammasta: I'd ignore what ubotto says! I use it extensively and its never conflicted with the Ubuntu package management, it works with it
[08:26] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you'd need to look at examples to see what it should look like, i doubt the single line would work
[08:27] <TJ-> Gyro54: I think it would be that the driver couldn't determine the optimum mode from what the display told it
[08:27] <djdexter> when i put --password=$somepasswordStartingWithDolar to wget shell accepts as password whitout first character ($) what should i do?
[08:27] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: there isn't a xorg.conf file by default because the display is now dynamically handled
[08:27] <Gyro54> TJ- thanks for your help
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter: '--password=$somepasswordStartingWithDolar'
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: dynamic by lightdm?
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter:  or even --password='$somepasswordStartingWithDolar'
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter: in other words, surround the password with single quote marks so the shell doesn't interpret the $ symbol as a variable prefix
[08:29] <Gyro54> tj- Saved the configuration but after a reboot it went back to the old setting. It was correct until I logged in.
[08:29] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: starting lightdm starts the X server
[08:30] <ubuntu-guest1221> in what way do Firefox builds from mozilla ftp differ from Firefox Ubuntu builds?
[08:30] <Gyro54> tj- It is a Dell with a strange card maybe it is trouble recognizing it.
[08:30] <ubuntu-guest1221> I can reproduce an issue in 14.0.1 on mozilla's 14.0.1 build which I can't on the same version from Ubuntu
[08:31] <TJ-> ubuntu-guest1221: that suggests that the mozilla bundles system libraries that the ubuntu system provides for its own build
[08:31] <ubuntu-guest1221> I'm trying to get to the root cause of it - it's SVG related
[08:32] <TJ-> Gyro54: That sounds strange since when you 'save' the configuration from nvidia-x-settings, it writes a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:im just trying to get rid of this corrupt mouse pointer problem
[08:32] <ubuntu-guest1221> I would have guessed this for plugins, but seems strange for svg
[08:33] <ThinkT510> !xorg.conf | lotuspsychje
[08:34] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | lotuspsychje
[08:36] <TJ-> ubuntu-guest1221: Our firefox package depends on libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0, which depends on librsvg2-2
[08:38] <Charlos> Hi all!
[08:38] <djdexter> thanks
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:tnx for link, so simulating a new xorg file cant do harm to my system because its based on the existing hardware/driver?
[08:39] <Charlos> how to install wine or playonplinux  on ubuntu 10.04 ???
[08:40] <Charlos> how to install wine or playonlinux  on ubuntu 10.04 ???
[08:40] <timfrost> !wine | Charlos
[08:40] <DJones> Charlos: To install wine its sudo apt-get install wine
[08:41] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: it'll never do harm, it will either work or not, if it doesn't you can get rid of it
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:tnx
[08:41] <Charlos> but what key app for wine  ?
[08:42] <W4sp> ThinkT510: Would you consider to suggest to run as root Xorg -configure > ~/xorg.conf.auto, edit as required by lotuspsychje with wcursor/true?
[08:43] <ThinkT510> W4sp: you can suggest it if you like
[08:43] <ThinkT510> W4sp: i haven't needed to configure xorg for years
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> W4sp:for some odd reason many systems i put ubuntu on got this corrupted square mouse pointer at first boot, after a reboot it dissapears
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> something like this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[08:44] <born__> hi, i am facing problem in writing bash shell script for SCP. echo "p@ssword" | scp -r May-13-21_25_19 gaurav@10.22.4.30:/home/gaurav/logs/check isnt working for me
[08:44] <kk_> LiuHui
[08:45] <kk_> 中文?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !cn | kk_
[08:45] <llutz_> born__: use ssh-keys for that, ssh/scp wont accept passwords from shell
[08:45] <W4sp> lotuspsychje:As ThinkT510 correctly state the xorg.conf is not needed (until it is, of course). I would recommend to make yourself root and run Xorg -configure > /homedir/xorg.conf.auto
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> W4sp:im just reading alot of websites saying that enabling swcursor:true would fix this mouse problem...im not trying to mess with xorg if i dont need
[08:47] <born__> llutz_: can you give me example?
[08:47] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Once root has done it edit your copy of xorg.conf.auto as desired (wcursor issue) and what else you've got. When you have finished editing it put in ton /etc/X11/ as xorg.conf. Make sure file permission is rw for root and r for group and others.
[08:47] <Xeli> Hello, I'm having a problems with my external monitor on my laptop, after a few minutes the screens starts to 'tear' as if the refresh rate is wrong but this only starts after a while, any idea why or how to fix?
[08:47] <llutz_> born__: read the forums/wiki about using ssh with key-auth
[08:47] <Xeli> worth noting is on some other screens I dont have this problem
[08:47] <born__> llutz_: okay.. thanks :)
[08:48] <cherva> Can someone explain to me ssh tunneling  I have a machine1 with web server on port 80 and a server1 .... I want the machine1 to connect to server1 in such a way that when I open a firefox on the server and type 127.0.0.1:1234 to go over the ssh tunel to machine1:80
[08:49] <Benkinooby> hi, my system time is off my 40 minutes, i have ntpd running. can some1 help me?
[08:49] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: The reason for my suggestion is that Xorg runs configuration settings during runtime and automatically, As you are not satisfied with this you need to averride the settings manually with your wcursre requirements. Auto-generating xorg.conf will not address your issue as it is the same as the autogenerated settings.
[08:50] <llutz_> cherva: ssh -L 1234:machine1:80 user@machine1
[08:51] <cherva> llutz, I have to type this on server1 yes ? I
[08:51] <llutz_> cherva: yes
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> W4sp: im not sure im gonna mess with xorg yet, im more interested in understanding why ubuntu boots this cursor problem once a day..
[08:51] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Further, if you have not done soe make yourself familiar with methods to boot into CLI mode.
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, I need such a thing that have to be typed on machine1 because machine1 will be behind routers and other stuff and server1 is on a real static ip .....
[08:52] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Sure, it is your decision as you are the root admin.
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, to make machine1 connect to server1 :)
[08:52] <llutz_> cherva: read about reverse-tunnelng (ssh -R)
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, ok 10x
[08:52] <W4sp> ThinkT510: Thanks a lot.
[08:53] <CellTech> How come when I visit the software center to install lmms. it installs wine instead?
[08:54] <Benkinooby> hi, my system time is off my 40 minutes, i have ntpd running. can some1 help me?
[08:54] <jpds> Benkinooby: sudo service ntp stop; sudo ntpdate 0.uk.pool.ntp.org; sudo service ntp start
[08:55] <cherva> llutz, done thx a lot man :)
[08:55] <Benkinooby> jpds, thank you
[08:56] <llutz_> cherva: yw
[08:56] <Benkinooby> jpds, do i have to do this more often in future?
[08:56] <jpds> Benkinooby: No, check /var/log/syslog to see what your clock is not syncng.
[08:57] <DJones> CellTech: I don't know why, but wine is shown as a dependency for the lmms package
[08:58] <CellTech> Weird..
[08:59] <TJ-> DJones: really? I just did apt-cache depends lmms and apt-cache rdepends wine on 12.04 and don't get any hits
[08:59] <DJones> TJ-: I'm just looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lmms
[09:00] <llutz_> TJ apt-cache depends lmms|grep wine -> " Depends: wine1.4-i386"
[09:00] <llutz_> 12.04 here
[09:00] <Paolas> i try sudo apt-get -update after
[09:00] <Paolas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:00] <Paolas> how to make   ?
[09:00] <TJ-> DJones: weird!
[09:00] <DJones> TJ-: It shows wine1.4-i386 as the 2nd to last dependancy
[09:00] <jpds> !dpkglock | Paolas
[09:01] <Paolas> but what yes or no  that  ?
[09:02] <TJ-> DJones: CellTech I'm pulling the source in
[09:02] <Paolas> Kill process 2056 ? (y/N)
[09:02] <Paolas> ?
[09:02] <Costeelation> someone can give me a feed reader?
[09:02] <Costeelation> no liferea... dont work with my ubuntu :(
[09:02] <DJones> TJ-: I'll be interested to understand why when once you've had a look
[09:03] <llutz_> CellTech: lmms supports VST-plugins, which need wine
[09:03] <Paolas> Kill process 2056 ? (y/N)     y or N that ????
[09:03] <CellTech> Another question. I have audacious. Why does it skip?
[09:03] <TJ-> DJones: CellTech llutz OK ... that dependency is for 32-bit systems only... I'm using 64-bit
[09:03] <Wicla> Hello.. Are it possible to disable GPG checking for ONE specific repository?
[09:04] <Benkinooby> jpds, syslogs last line is "frequency initialized -21.433 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift" is that normal?
[09:04] <llutz_> TJ-: there is no wine-amd64 (afaik), lmms still will depend on wine due to the VST-support
[09:05] <TJ-> llutz_: wine1.4-i386 [i386]
[09:05] <llutz_> multiarch, yes TJ-
[09:05] <TJ-> llutz: yes, but no dependency in amd64 package
[09:05] <TJ->   * debian/control:
[09:05] <TJ->     - Build with wine1.4-dev (LP: #925127)
[09:05] <TJ->     - Remove manual wine dependency, obtain it via dh_shlibdeps
[09:05] <TJ->     - Remove wine and gcc-multilib build dependencies on amd64
[09:05] <TJ->       (package does not build with 64-bit only wine)
[09:05] <FloodBot1> TJ-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <TJ-> oops, too many lines! thought I'd concatenated
[09:06] <llutz_> TJ-: ah ok
[09:06] <CellTech> fixed it. thank you :D
[09:06] <Paolas> i have wine but need to install new in playonlinux  ???
[09:06] <TJ-> There's always an explanation if you look far enough... trouble is, it's often damned well hidden!
[09:07] <Paolas> how to make install PlayOnLinux   ?????
[09:07] <Paolas> !playonlinux
[09:08] <Paolas> ???
[09:08] <timfrost> Benkinooby: that message is OK. It is telling you that it has loaded  drift frequency data from the file /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
[09:08] <Paolas> hey Im forghet... Panels no have icon for network , how to make add   ???????
[09:09] <bazhang> !enter | Paolas
[09:09] <Paolas> ?
[09:09] <Paolas> hey Im forghet... Panels no have icon for network , how to make add   ?
[09:09] <Benkinooby> timfrost, i think that that file may be corrupted... i had big trouble the last two weeks, because my system time always shifted off - with and without ntp
[09:10] <bazhang> Paolas, stop using the enter key so much. keep it on ONE line
[09:10] <Paolas> ok
[09:10] <Benkinooby> timfrost, would a purge and reinstall fo ntp be a safe solution?
[09:10] <Benkinooby> timfrost, in case the time shifts off again
[09:11] <TJ-> Benkinooby: check /var/log/kern.log for any indication of the kernel causing the time drift... or if the PC is turned off alot, it could be down to a failing battery for the RTC
[09:12] <Paolas> in software center have sun java 6.0 plugin but no have install  how to make   ?
[09:12] <bazhang> !java | Paolas
[09:13] <timfrost> Benkinooby: ntp re-install won't fix things.  If your computer is always on (or is on more than it is off), you  need NTP server installed to keep time synced to a reliable time source.  This is because of drift, and the fact that ntpdate only changes the clock on boot
[09:13] <Wicla> Hello.. Are it possible to disable GPG checking for a specific APT repository?
[09:13] <Benkinooby> TJ-, so far, my hwclock whas the only reliable clock on my system... a laptop, with a weak accu
[09:13] <TJ-> Benkinooby: that's a pain :(
[09:13] <bazhang> Wicla, why would you ever need to do that
[09:14] <Benkinooby> TJ, timfrost jpds thank you for your advice
[09:15] <Wicla> bazhang: it's for a custom repository in enterprise environment. But that's unimportant isn't it. Was that a statement that it's not possible?
[09:15] <bazhang> Wicla, 3rd party repo? PPA? what is it
[09:16] <Wicla> a local custom repository. Not a PPA
[09:16] <TJ-> Wicla: you can do it for all as you probably know (sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated upgrade) but I don't know about a per-repo option
[09:18] <BullShark`> How can i prevent an application from resetting the windows title in screen. i have screen -t zsh 1 /bin/zsh in my .screenrc. it gets set to zsh, but then reset to myhostname:~:zsh after zsh executes, same with other commands
[09:19] <TJ-> Wicla: you could sign your local repo. see for example: http://blog.mycrot.ch/2011/04/26/creating-your-own-signed-apt-repository-and-debian-packages/
[09:19] <Wicla> TJ-: ok. The setup required would need to have it configured in a configuration file however since Puppet is being used. Would prefer not to change the Puppet uses to install packages (apt-get -q -y -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold install <package>"
[09:20] <Wicla> TJ-: true. So far we've managed to avoid signing it for other distributions for simplicity. But maybe we'll need to rethink our current setup and use GPG signing
[09:20] <Paolas> how to install exe for yahoo messenger.exe   ?
[09:22] <BullShark`> How can i prevent an application from resetting the windows title in screen? I have screen -t bash 1 /bin/bash in my .screenrc. it gets set to bash, but then reset to myhostname:~:bash after bash executes, same with other commands
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  empathy handles yahoo messenger
[09:24] <rvgate>  /j #pac
[09:24] <CFUDev> Hello
[09:24] <rvgate> oops
[09:24] <cfhowlett> CFUDev: greetings
[09:24] <CFUDev> New on Ubuntu and I have some issue :(
[09:24] <dylan> can anyone help me with java install and set-up please?
[09:25] <CFUDev> I have a PC with wireless NIC
[09:25] <cfhowlett> CFUDev: ok and
[09:25] <CFUDev> my pc worked well until the last two days ...
[09:25] <biobeo> is there anyone for help ?
[09:25] <biobeo> I am having problem while installing Ubuntu 12.4 on my desktop (Intel 865 P4 1GB DDR1 RAM)
[09:25] <jalexandru> CFUdev: and?
[09:26] <biobeo> I am having problem while installing Ubuntu 12.4 on my desktop (Intel 865 P4 1GB DDR1 RAM)\
[09:26] <Paolas> but i need on webcam for yahoo messenger
[09:26] <CFUDev> but the last two days, it seems like the network stop for a while and then start again
[09:26] <CFUDev> I cannot find out what is the reason
[09:26] <cfhowlett> biobeo: what kind of trouble; details
[09:26] <biobeo> posted here
[09:26] <biobeo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172922/ubuntu-12-4-is-not-running-installation-on-intel-865-pentium-4
[09:26] <CFUDev> When I open my both browsers (Firefox / Chrome) the pages are doing endless loading or are loaded too slow
[09:27] <Paolas> biobeo try download  ubunru  12.04.4 LTS Lucid Linx is good work for me
[09:27] <CFUDev> and the update manager is downloading all of the packages
[09:27] <cfhowlett> biobeo: ok, basics.  did you checksum to ensure you got a good download?
[09:27] <mady1978> ciao
[09:27] <mady1978> !list
[09:27] <CFUDev> but for some packages it seem that getting too slow regardless the file size
[09:27] <Paolas> I have on webcam but how to install for yahoo messenger on webcam   ????
[09:28] <Phoenix87> hallo
[09:28] <biobeo> I am having the booable CD from the store..
[09:28] <CFUDev> Is there any idea on how to solve that issue ?
[09:28] <Phoenix87> could I use some help with this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/172601/cant-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04 ? thank you
[09:28] <CFUDev> You can find that same issue here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/172923/endless-network-loading
[09:28] <biobeo> ppls help
[09:28] <cfhowlett> biobeo: not sure what that means...you bought an ubuntu cdrom?
[09:28] <CFUDev> This is mine too
[09:29] <biobeo> I got the Ubuntu 12.4 Bootable CD from a Store...
[09:29] <biobeo> theres nothing error in the CD as I guess..
[09:29] <cfhowlett> biobeo: hmm.  ok.
[09:29] <Paolas> I have on webcam but how to install for yahoo messenger on webcam   ?
[09:29] <timfrost> BullShark`: You will need to configure your terminal emulator to ignore all requests to change the title bar.  That depends on which terminal emulator you use. Gnome terminal has a global per-profile setting to control this, under 'Profile->Title and Command'.  Other terminal emulators may have equivalent options, but you need to set the option that applies to your terminal emulator (and cope with the fact that in most cases it is 'a
[09:30] <CFUDev> Any help please with that ? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/172923/endless-network-loading
[09:30] <MonsterWizard> if I uninstall unity will it ruin my system in anyway
[09:30] <biobeo> please any one help URGENT... http://askubuntu.com/questions/172922/ubuntu-12-4-is-not-running-installation-on-intel-865-pentium-4
[09:30] <cfhowlett> biobeo: i see that your installation hangs once you select 3rd party software/mp3 codecs.  Suggest you DON'T install those until after you get the basic system up and running.  Quite easy to add them post installation
[09:30] <BullShark`> timfrost -> not the title bar, the windows names in screen. i like to keep them short so they don't expand greater than the width of my terminal
[09:31] <quick-> MonsterWizard:  it depends upon your system config
[09:31] <MonsterWizard> I haven't changed anything
[09:31] <MonsterWizard> it's a fresh install
[09:31] <quick-> MonsterWizard:  forthe mostof the latest systemsit willnot
[09:32] <MonsterWizard> right I'll uninstall it then
[09:32] <biobeo> yeah.. also tried that.... but the same thing is happening... is Ubuntu 12.4 is Compitable with my Config ???? @cfhowlett
[09:32] <Paolas> How to install on webcam   ???
[09:32] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> hi! Maybe someone has had the same problem with shotwell. I noticed that shotwell has created several events with the same name (date).. Is there some kind of batch operation to combine all events with the same name?
[09:33] <regMe> help
[09:33] <cfhowlett> biobeo: pretty sure you should be able to run it, but here's are the alternate methods ... download the ubuntu alternate .iso (text based) installer OR try a different distro; xubuntu or lubuntu for older, low spec machines
[09:33] <Phoenix87> is it safe to change any occurrence of oneiric with precise in sources.list in order to force a distribution upgrade?
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> is the answer to this question the safest way to uninstall unity? http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[09:34] <_skpl> the safest way to remove unity is to install another desktop environment
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> yep I already habe gnome
[09:34] <_skpl> den use gnome.
[09:34] <biobeo> but why the problem is running I mean what should be the cause..??
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> that command won't do anything crazy will it?
[09:35] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?   what do you say  ? Im waiting   ???
[09:35] <MonsterWizard> yeah but I hate unity so badly I want it off the system
[09:35] <susundberg> !gnome-shell
[09:36] <regMe> quit
[09:36] <quick-> quit
[09:36] <cfhowlett> biobeo: as it's 3rd party only, I'd suspect that those repos are not available or that you actually have a bad cdrom.
[09:36] <susundberg> MonsterWizard: !notunity
[09:36] <susundberg> mhh, i cannot use this bot
[09:36] <susundberg> !notunity
[09:37] <biobeo> but theres no error showing up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:37] <TJ-> BullShark`: "man screen" and read the "TITLES (naming windows)" section carefully. It includes some great examples of dynamic window titles
[09:38] <cfhowlett> biobeo: understood...one reason I suggested you download, check and create your own boot media is so that you KNOW that much is good
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> I just updated from 10:04
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> wheres the symtaptic package manger?
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> kept
[09:38] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: It doesn't exist by default anymore. You have to install it yourself iirc.
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> :/
[09:38] <KatsumeBlisk> It should still be in the repos.
[09:39] <TJ-> MonsterWizard: There's the Software Centre now, it's taken over
[09:39] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: It was replaced by Software Center by default.
[09:39] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: What TJ- said.
[09:39] <biobeo> hmmm... but My desktop is not in the situation to download something.. cause my old OS is corrupt now...
[09:39] <eli_> hello, how can i copy a file from a remote host
[09:40] <TJ-> eli_: If you have SSH access you can use scp or sftp
[09:40] <cfhowlett> biobeo: .torrents
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> So can ubuntu do anythig other linux distros can?
[09:40] <eli_> TJ-: scp don't work for me he don't found the host
[09:40] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?   what do you say  ? Im waiting   ???
[09:40] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: Yeah. It's really just up to preference in terms of distro choice.
[09:40] <eli_> TJ-: can i use pastebin or some thing like that
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> so anything arch can do
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> ubuntu can do too?
[09:41] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: Well, anything is pretty broad, but I'd say so.
[09:41] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: They're both Linux.
[09:41] <TJ-> eli_: well to gain access to another host the name must resolve using DNS, the host must be running the ssh server, and the firewalls must allow access
[09:41] <captine> hi all.  anyone able to assist with transfer speeds in Ubuntu.  Ubuntu laptop with wireless N broadcom card transfering files from macbook at 1mb.  only 2 laptops on the wifi and all close to the router
[09:42] <eli_> TJ- how will you write  the command when the user on a windows domain
[09:42] <biobeo> but there is also showing the ybuntu deskto and widgets.. and ashortcut which is Install Ubuntu and a directory Examples..
[09:43] <scisteffan> Are there any up to date instructions for installing Ingres SQL on ubuntu?
[09:43] <TJ-> eli_: If the system holding the file is Windows, you can't usually use SSH (scp/sftp) unless that server had an SSH server installed. You'll have to find another way... probably using a Windows Share on the server and samba on the Ubuntu PC
[09:44] <eli_> TJ-: i can shh to the machine, that's not the problem
[09:44] <eli_> the Problem is how to copy the file
[09:44] <TJ-> eli_: if you can ssh you should be able to scp too!
[09:45] <cfhowlett> biobeo: consider downloading the .iso via .torrent
[09:45] <multi_io> if I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a (to be created) raid1+lvm partition, can the setup create those for me or do I have to do it separately?
[09:46] <TJ-> multi_io: If you use the Alternate CD installer you can. Can't with the liveCD *unless* you do it manually
[09:46] <biobeo> tnx............
[09:46] <cfhowlett> multi_io: you can do that during installation
[09:47] <NetRunnerBlack_> Hi guys. I've had this problem for a while, but last time I tried to ask for help here I lost internet. I'm getting an error message that says E: Encountered a section with no Package: header, E: Problem with MergeList (package list location) E: The package lists or status could not be parsed or opened.
[09:49] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: This might help you https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+faq/1591
[09:49] <jey_w> hm, I'm on 10.04, and in Administration->Login Screen, ive set the default session type
[09:49] <Paolas> p><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif"'width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></td>
[09:49] <jey_w> however if I login in from gdm it just logsme into GNOME :S
[09:49] <NetRunnerBlack_> I've looked at the package list named, and it seems to be HTML for a web page that asks for a password (to access the internet, and my internet is working perfectly). It says the password can be found at Cisco Connect.
[09:50] <jey_w> and mty new session doesnt appear in the Sessions dropdown in gdm either
[09:50] <NetRunnerBlack_> Thanks. Is it strange that all of my package lists have been replaced with HTML code?
[09:50] <dalek_> does anyone know how to interpret the signal/noise info given under Network>interfaces in hardInfo in Ubuntu? My is reading -33/154144744... is that normal?
[09:50] <multi_io> TJ-: ok. what about the "server" iso then? Can it do that too?
[09:50] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: Yes!
[09:51] <Paolas> p><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif"'width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></td>
[09:51] <TJ-> multi_io: Yes, it's the main user of those facilities
[09:51] <Paolas> what the problem  ?
[09:51] <Smashcat> Anyone know how to prevent Ubuntu/apt from wrecking config files when you update?
[09:51] <dalek_> my other computer is reading -54/2    ...and that is a vast difference.
[09:51] <multi_io> TJ-: so the "alternate" and "desktop" iso support it, and the "desktop" iso doesn't?
[09:51] <multi_io> errm
[09:52] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- I'm going to paste the code up really quick. I kind of want to know what the hell happened, if anyone smarter then me wants to take a look at this I'd be really grateful.
[09:52] <multi_io> TJ-: so the "alternate" and "server" iso support it, and the "desktop" iso doesn't?
[09:52] <eli_> TJ-: so when i type scp progov.log eli@10.0.1.179
[09:52] <eli_> but he doesn't copy anything
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Smashcat: separate /home usually does it for me...
[09:52] <NetRunnerBlack_> http://pastebin.com/ZsjRgW1M
[09:53] <timfrost> eli_: Any error messages?  If so, can you pastbin them?
[09:53] <eli_> timfrost: no  echo after the command
[09:53] <timfrost> !pastebin | eli_
[09:53] <eli_> i want to copy from a linux to windows
[09:53] <Smashcat> cfhowlett: No, i mean the config files in /etc. It's managed to mess up the dovecot config this time. Silly of me to do an update I guess - usually never update servers after install as I know ubuntu is pretty bad for this...
[09:54] <eli_> timfrost: the windows ip is 10.0.1.179 and the user is eli
[09:54] <llutz_> eli_: and you have ssh-server running on the windows machine?
[09:54] <NuSuey> anybody here with ati radeon 6850?
[09:55] <NetRunnerBlack_> Some of the package lists are normal, but at least %50 look like that.
[09:55] <eli_> llutz_:why??? i don't need it i have ssh server on the linux and putty client on windows
[09:55] <Blazemore> NuSuey: I have a 6870 which is close enough
[09:55] <llutz_> eli_: you need it to scp that way
[09:55] <NuSuey> Blazemore: any problems with it? because i have many with my 6850 under linux
[09:55] <eli_> llutz_: you mean that i need ssh sserver on both host?
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: you need ssh-server on the host you want to connect to
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: in your case, the windows-machine
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: or use putty/pscp from windows to _pull_ the file from the linux-host
[09:57] <eli_> llutz_: the file i want is on the linux machine
[09:57] <llutz_> eli_: and? you either can push it (copy via scp) or pull it
[09:58] <eli_> llutz_: have you the command i write befor?
[09:58] <llutz_> eli_: read putty/pscp documentation
[09:58] <eli_> hhhhhh
[09:59] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- That seemed to work! Thanks!
[09:59] <eli_> i will never do it llutz_ you have to understand the question befor you anwser any thing
[09:59] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: I know what happened"
[09:59] <llutz_> eli_: you're welcome
[09:59]  * NetRunnerBlack_ listens to TJ-?
[10:00] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_:Read that file you pasted... if you get far enough you'll realise it's the log-in screen from a captive WiFi portal asking you to log-in.
[10:00] <dr_willis>  eli_  restate the question then.... somthings gotten lost in translation.. or theres a failure to communicate.
[10:00] <NetRunnerBlack_> Right
[10:00] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: So, when your machine tried to use HTTP to fetch the package list, the captive portal returned its own page rather than an error code, so your machine didn't realise the file didn't come from the Ubuntu archive
[10:01] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: All archives use HTTP and regular web servers to host the packages
[10:01] <NetRunnerBlack_> Ohhhh
[10:01] <dr_willis> NetRunnerBlack_:   ive seen that at most public wifi places these days
[10:01] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: captive portals assume all HTTP users are browsers with users in front of them, not machine processes!
[10:01] <Paolas> say me please how to add menu bar for newtork  ????
[10:01] <dr_willis> gotts use the browser first to hit ok for the places eula.
[10:02] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- Thanks. My internet goes down sometimes and it tries to use my neighbors captive wi-fi portal sometimes. I must have been off my network without realizing it and tried to update.
[10:02] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: this might clue you on which one: "document.write("Enter the guest access password to access the Internet. Ask the owner if you don't know the password. The guest access password can be found using Cisco Connect.")"
[10:03] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- The neighbors actually feeds the browser this message: "Welcome to fuckers guest. Please enter the guest password, fucker." But I'm guessing that was modded heavily and I managed to get the original bit somehow? That's all I can think of anyway.
[10:03] <dr_willis> Paolas:  that made no sence.  give more details
[10:04] <bazhang> NetRunnerBlack_, no cursing here
[10:04] <NetRunnerBlack_> bazhang Sorry, my mistake.
[10:04] <mady1978> ciao
[10:05] <mady1978> !list
[10:05] <NetRunnerBlack_> Well, thanks for your help guys.
[10:06] <Paolas> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate   ???
[10:06] <Postumus> Paolas, you need that Oracle PPA.
[10:06] <dr_willis> !java | Paolas
[10:07] <Postumus> Paolas, https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[10:07] <Blazemore> NuSuey: So problems with it, but don't use fglrx. Open-source radeon driver is fine
[10:08] <_skpl> hi blazemore.
[10:08] <Paolas> I dont understand this java
[10:08] <Paolas> better give me here command in terminal
[10:08] <Paolas> please
[10:08] <bazhang> Paolas, read the link.
[10:09] <Paolas> I dont know all
[10:09] <Paolas> I am new on ubuntu
[10:09] <dr_willis> the wiki page gave the exact commands...
[10:09] <jpds> Paolas: Noone does.
[10:09] <Paolas> and I am deaf really
[10:09] <_skpl> hha/
[10:09] <bazhang> Paolas, then read the link we have given you
[10:09] <cfhowlett> ...and we'll type quietly?
[10:09] <Paolas> better here help and i like
[10:09] <livingdaylight> With 8gb RAM is swap required?
[10:09] <Paolas> there java link after where see that version  ?
[10:10] <Blazemore> livingdaylight: It depends what you're running
[10:10] <jpds> livingdaylight: Do you want to be able to hibernate?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> Does the old 2x amount of ram for Swap still apply?
[10:10] <supasnashbuhl> livingdaylight: i wouldn't use swap even with 2 gigs
[10:10] <dr_willis> livingdaylight:  i always put at least 512mb of swap. swap is needed if you want to hibernate
[10:10] <Blazemore> livingdaylight: If you have enough disk space, assign some swap.
[10:10] <jpds> Paolas: Read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:11] <supasnashbuhl> dr_willis: are you sure hibernate uses swap? And not some file on the system?
[10:11] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Do you want to be able to hibernate the system eventually? If so, a large swap is a good idea - it's used for the hibernation image
[10:11] <livingdaylight> hibernation is good, but I don't need to assign twice the amount of Ram for swap then?
[10:11] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more. is common these days
[10:11] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: It uses swap.
[10:11] <Wuschii> having some trouble with upgrading
[10:11] <Wuschii> http://pastebin.com/UnXrzVZ0
[10:11] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: that's stupid..
[10:11] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: Where else are you going to shove a copy of your working RAM?
[10:11] <lloowen> Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. i.e. conky
[10:11] <Wuschii> theres something wrong bind9 but i dont know how to fix it....
[10:11] <Paolas> but what OpenJDK ,  Oracle (Sun) Java 6 , Oracle Java 7, IBM Java or GNU Compiler: that download  ???
[10:12] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: idk somewhere inside /
[10:12] <livingdaylight> so, on a 500gb HD with 8gb RAM how much swap is recommended? 16gb??
[10:12] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: but that's good to know
[10:12] <llutz_> supasnashbuhl: thats stupid
[10:12] <jpds> livingdaylight: 10?
[10:12] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more. is common these days
[10:12] <jpds> llutz_ / supasnashbuhl: No name calling, please; this has probably already been thought out by clever kernel developers.
[10:12] <dr_willis> livingdaylight:  ifyou dont need hibernate then yoy can use less.
[10:13] <llutz_> sry jpds
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: the stupid wasn't directed to any person. sorry.
[10:13] <livingdaylight> dr_willis, does hibernation only work if 2x the amount of ram is assigned to swap? What if I gave it 4gb?
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> directed at?
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> whatever
[10:14] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more  for hibernate
[10:14] <prakash> Hello all Recently I Updated to ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:14] <jpds> livingdaylight: Swap involves putting ALL of your memory into swap.
[10:14] <Smashcat> livingdaylight: You could probably just use a swap file, and a script to enable swap just before the system goes into hibernation if needed. Having swap on all the time is no big issue really though
[10:14] <jpds> livingdaylight: Hibernate involves*
[10:14] <prakash> and I am unsatisfied by its performance
[10:14] <TJ-> Wuschii: see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/886333
[10:15] <supasnashbuhl> i don't understand why there can't be a scalable swap, so that IF it's needed it will allocate some space on the drive..
[10:15] <Wuschii> thanks TJ
[10:15] <jpds> livingdaylight: So you're going to need the amount of RAM you have, plus a little bit more.
[10:15] <prakash> Facing a bug since upgrade to 12.04LTS
[10:15] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: You could use a swap file.
[10:15] <prakash> can any onr help ??????????
[10:15] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: There would be a massive performance hit if you did that with swap.
[10:15] <jpds> prakash: You need to give more details on the issue.
[10:15] <TJ-> jpds: Linux using a swap partition so it can write direct and fast to the block device; it doesn't have to go through the VFS
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> prakash  start with a question
[10:15] <bazhang> !details | prakash
[10:15] <livingdaylight> jpds, yea, i see... seems a shame to give that much away, but, if I want hibernation then its necessary
[10:16] <lloowen>  Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. i.e. conky
[10:16] <llutz_> jpds: even a swap-file has a fixed size you need to specify before. so its not scalable
[10:16] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: can you explain why? Because a swap file can get fragmented?
[10:16] <prakash> Every time I login it gives me System Error pop up
[10:16] <TJ-> Wuschii: I think the problem is something to do with the runlevel you are at when you run those commands... did you start in 'single' mode?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> hibernation is a good thing, right?
[10:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Allows you to save state and take the battery out
[10:17] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: The swap partition is not a normal filesystem, it's for dumping and reading RAM. So adding the overhead of having to resize it etc will damage performance
[10:17] <supasnashbuhl> livingdaylight: with ssd's yes :)
[10:17] <Wuschii> TJ i just wanted to upgrade my system but it hangs at exactly this step
[10:17] <prakash> jpds: Every time I login it gives me System Error pop up
[10:17] <Wuschii> waited 5 minutes nothing does
[10:17] <TJ-> Wuschii: are you on the system now? can you run a couple of commands for me?
[10:18] <Wuschii> yes i can its a server
[10:18] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: alright.. makes sense. But i find it really hard to determine some "good" size for swap..
[10:18] <prakash> jpds: It is happing since i upgraded to 12.04
[10:18] <TJ-> Wuschii: try this: "runlevel"
[10:18] <lloowen>  Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:18] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: Just make it the same size as your RAM, plus a little bit.
[10:18] <Wuschii> o.O
[10:19] <Wuschii> sshd: hello ?
[10:19] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: okay.. good.
[10:19] <TJ-> Wuschii: You killed the sshd?
[10:19] <Wuschii> no
[10:19] <prakash> ubottu : I recently upgraded to 12.04 since the I am getting a system error pop up
[10:19] <Wuschii> i have to restart over webi
[10:20] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: If you have plenty of RAM, and don't need hibernation, you can turn it off, but there's little gain from turning it off, and disk space is cheap
[10:20] <prakash> ubottu : ok
[10:20] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: Obviously with SSD's you shouldn't be running swap on them.
[10:20] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: i think you're right.
[10:20] <prakash> ubottu : how should i state a problem to you
[10:20] <jpds> prakash: Send a report, or cancel it.
[10:21] <Paolas> but what OpenJDK ,  Oracle (Sun) Java 6 , Oracle Java 7, IBM Java or GNU Compiler: that download  ???   this that click need it  ?
[10:21] <lloowen> Hello all 1604 people in this room!! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:21] <supasnashbuhl> prakash: dude.. ubottu is a bot (computer program) not a real person...
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> prakash  ubottu is a machine, a script, a (ro)bot
[10:21] <Paolas> Oracle (Sun) Java 6  can install   ??
[10:22] <prakash> jpds: I have already done that but after few min. it again pop ups. It really faustrating
[10:22] <Wuschii> TJ i have to contact the support... hes dead amen
[10:22] <Wuschii> dont want to restart over webinterface
[10:22] <jpds> prakash: Can you follow instructions like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6 ?
[10:22] <prakash> jpds: I had a great expirence with 11.10 but 12.04 has been disappointing
[10:23] <jpds> prakash: Then something is broken is broken on your system, either report the issue or ignore it.
[10:23] <prakash> jpds: yes, I am software developer
[10:23] <Paolas> pfffffffff
[10:23] <TJ-> Wuschii: OK ... well I wanted you to find out which runlevel the system is on ... if its 0 or 6 or even 1, that might be the cause
[10:23] <Paolas> owrap><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif" width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></t'> charlos@L-I-N-U-X:~$ sudo mv jre1.6.0_31 /usr/lib/jvm/ mv: cannot stat `jre1.6.0_31': No such file or directory charlos@L-I-N-U-X:~$
[10:23] <FloodBot1> Paolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !paste|paolas
[10:24] <lloowen> Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:24] <Paolas> how to make problem java  ??? :-?
[10:24] <prakash> jpds: ok. How is your expirence about ubuntu 12.04
[10:24] <jpds> prakash: Lovely, much snappier than 11.10.
[10:25] <Paolas> what do you say ? tell me know man im work here man
[10:25] <Paolas> time come what do you say me problem java   ?
[10:25] <lloowen> What is the best way to run applications at boot up?
[10:25] <prakash> jpds: ok thanks for the help
[10:26] <jpds> prakash: You could try looking in /var/crash to see what's crashing.
[10:26] <prakash> jpds: ok, will look at it
[10:28] <SebZek> hi all
[10:28] <Wuschii> TJ: they have to update the bios in this cloud... therefore no ssh :D
[10:28] <SebZek> what this :: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[10:28] <prakash> What is the review of Ubuntu 12.04 should I upgrade from 11.10 ???
[10:29] <OMGUBUNTU> Hey you all
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> prakash  12.04 is the most recent and it is LTS, so yes
[10:29] <cfhowlett> prakash: 12.04 works.  personally, I only install LTS
[10:29] <TJ-> Wuschii: OK, well, if you search you'll find mentions on the Debian and Ubuntu bug-trackers of that message from several packages, not just bind. The key is the runlevel the system is at when it is run
[10:29] <Smashcat> Great, so the default in dovecot now is to listen on an ipv6 interface ;-) Wonder whose brilliant idea that was...
[10:29] <OMGUBUNTU> 12.04 works fine for me
[10:30] <Wuschii> thanks TJ if the problem still exists if the server are back online, i will ask again in #ubuntu
[10:30] <Wuschii> ^^
[10:30] <SebZek>  what this :: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, how to remove this message in menuconfig ?
[10:30] <W4sp> lloowen: You would need to familiarize yourself with System V. If you blackbox and want to run a program after you logged in: blackbox wm reads from .xinitrc | .xsession in ~/. Just add '<application> &' before you exec your wm.
[10:30] <prakash> monkeydust: What does LTS really means ?? is it more stable ??
[10:30] <jpds> prakash: Long Term Support.
[10:30] <prakash> cfhowlett: What does LTS really means ?? is it more stable ??
[10:30] <jpds> !lts | prakash
[10:31] <cfhowlett> prakash: not as bleeding edge and more effort is put into development and maintenance over the long haul.
[10:31] <jalexandru> !Precise | praksh
[10:32] <Guest73244> ...
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> prakash  that's a lot of info, no? ;)
[10:32] <prakash> ok thanks every one going to upgrade to 12.04 on my other computers
[10:32] <prakash> monkeydust : yup, great community
[10:33] <lloowen> W4sp: Thanks for the tip. I have not had any luck with the .xinitrc file. Blackbox does not even run when the .xinitrc file is present. I currently have blackbox running from login via the .profile file.
[10:34] <guest_mystic> !info
[10:37] <btcbuy314> how do i change the color scheme to white on black (white letters) for urxvt
[10:38] <TJ-> lloowen: I think you might have to do "ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession"
[10:38] <W4sp> lloowen: I see. Your DM (gdm or lightboxdm or whatever you've got) would need to be able to pass on what DE has been chosen. That sounds easy but actually some DM follow X.org. AFAIK gdm and lightdm don't. .xinitrc should be read by blackbox surely.
[10:39] <TJ-> lloowen: This page might help... it mentions Blackbox, and towards the end how to automate the session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:39] <W4sp> lloowen: TJ- is right, create one and ln them.
[10:39] <susundberg> _o/
[10:41] <alba-andy> guys, my httpd users 'apache' says it cant write to a specific directory, how can I add it without changing the directory owner?
[10:42] <TJ-> alba-andy: usually you add the directory owner to the www-data group, and then set the directory's group to www-data
[10:42] <lloowen> W4sp: My current setup is ubuntu 10.04 minimal from a net install with no WM. Just blackbox. This set up is running on a thin client with just 102Mb RAM so I'm doing as much as I can command line only. When I installed blackbox wm there was no .xinitrc present at all. Just .xsession-errors
[10:42] <theadmin> alba-andy: 1) make a group, 2) add the "apache" user to that group, 3) change the directory owner OR 1) change your fstab to mount the drive directory's on with the "acl" option, 2) use the "setfacl" command to allow the user write access to the directory.
[10:43] <TJ-> alba-andy: obviously you'd also ensure the directory group owner has write permissions
[10:43] <theadmin> alba-andy: s/owner/group/
[10:45] <alba-andy> thanks guys, ill give it a try
[10:45] <lloowen> Tj: thanks for the link. Looking into it.
[10:46] <lloowen> W4sp: Thanks for your help
[10:46] <W4sp> lloowen: the .xsession-errors were created by your blackbox. You need to create .xinitrc or .xsession yourself. I need to know if it is 102 MB aor 1024 MB? Speller?
[10:46] <person> I want to use Lubuntu but is it safe?
[10:46] <theadmin> person: "safe"?
[10:46] <person> How do I know somone hasn't put some bad code in it
[10:46] <jpds> person: It's open-source?
[10:46] <person> it's a niche OS
[10:46] <lloowen> W4sp: 102Mb
[10:46] <llutz_> person: you have to trust
[10:47] <jpds> person: Go and read the source if you're so concerned.
[10:47] <person> alright
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> person  it's open source, if someone tried, te others would notice immediately
[10:47] <cfhowlett> person: open source
[10:47] <person> lol I lack the skills
[10:47] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: nice theory
[10:47] <person> It is trusted by canonical, right? it's on their website
[10:47] <theadmin> person: Well, if you don't trust Canonical, go ahead and use something else. However there's no reason to believe there is "bad code" in any of the officially supported Ubuntu releases.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> person: well you could use windoze.  Nobody EVER hacks that OS ...
[10:47] <lloowen> W4sp: It has 128Mb ram but 26Mb is dedicated for the video
[10:47] <jpds> person: Lubuntu is not supported by Canonical.
[10:48] <theadmin> jpds: Uh, yes it is. Kubuntu isn't. Or did they change something again?
[10:48] <person> what's the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu apart from the desktop environment?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is an official canonical distro.  Kubuntu is not
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> person  lubuntu is maintained by the cummunity
[10:48] <theadmin> person: Different app choices (e.g. Ubuntu has Firefox whereas Lubuntu has Chromium)
[10:48] <jpds> theadmin: Lubuntu never was supported by Canonical.
[10:48] <person> ubuntu is too heavy for my old system see
[10:48] <W4sp> lloowen: I guess that's somewhere on the lower end then. ;-) If blackbox comes up ... That's all you need.
[10:49] <nrdb> thunderbird is giving me trouble... it wont start it keeps saying "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding"... but it isn't... plus I have just rebooted... how can I get it going again?
[10:49] <theadmin> nrdb: Look in your home directory under .mozilla for thunderbird-related things, there may be a lockfile
[10:50] <Ormie> Hi, I have a Song CD. I have problem mounting it "sudo mount /dev/sr0 mycd". It outputs that the media fs is unknown or something like that and it doesn't mount. I am on Ubuntu Server 12.04. Please help. Thanks.
[10:50] <person> so there is no reason why lubuntu is different from ubuntu
[10:50] <jpds> chasmo: It's not.
[10:50] <llutz_> Ormie: you don't mount audio-cds to play them
[10:50] <jpds> cfhowlett: ↑
[10:51] <Ormie> llutz_: ?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> person  it's lighter, the layout is different, other programmes installed by default
[10:51] <llutz_> Ormie: you don't mount audio-cds to play them
[10:51] <Ormie> yeah, ok. but...
[10:51] <lloowen> W4sp: I'm amazed what you can run on so little. Blackbox + Mplayer = supprisingly good media player!
[10:51] <nrdb> theadmin, under the .mozilla directory there is only a "extensions" and "firefox" directories... the ~/.thunderbird   directory I haven't found a 'lock' file
[10:51] <W4sp> lloowen: Please note that Ubuntu loads a lot of other gnome related stuff even if your desired X windows is 'just' blackbox. Most GNOME daemons are not really required unless you need them. ;-) Try to get an xdm only environment with just blackbox and see how far you get.
[10:51] <theadmin> nrdb: Hm, okay.
[10:51] <Ormie> llutz_: so what shall i do?
[10:52] <Ormie> bye bye erry! :P
[10:52] <theadmin> W4sp: Not if you're using a server or minimal install, just saying
[10:52] <person> I guess I am having trouble trusting open source, anyone could write harmful code and say it's a distro
[10:52] <W4sp> lloowen: Once the X windows sytem is up you should be fine. Good luck
[10:53] <Ormie> Hi, I have a Song CD. I have problem mounting it "sudo mount /dev/sr0 mycd". It outputs that the media fs is unknown or something like that and it doesn't mount. I am on Ubuntu Server 12.04.
[10:53] <llutz_> Ormie: what do you want to do with the cd? start your player and listen (mplayer cdda://1 or somthg like that)
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Ormie: *again* audio cd's don't mount.
[10:53] <Ormie> ok
[10:53] <Ormie> llutz_: hey you. tell me more .
[10:54] <llutz_> Ormie: hey you, pay me :)
[10:54] <nrdb> theadmin, found it... there was a .parentlock ... I didn't see it because 'ls' wasn't showing it.
[10:54] <Ormie> >.<
[10:54] <theadmin> jpds: "Lubuntu 11.10 is the first version of Lubuntu with official sanction as a member of the Ubuntu family." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[10:54] <llutz_> Ormie: ask a question and wait for an answer
[10:54] <geirha> I believe gnome-volume manager can generate a virtual filesystem for audio cds
[10:54]  * Ormie gives llutz_ a tux
[10:54] <nrdb> theadmin, it is going now.
[10:54]  * Ormie then hugs erry.
[10:54] <luftikuss> I produced a MySQL dump of a database using mysqldump. The filename is 20120807. How to restore the MySQL database from this file, preferably using phpMyAdmin? refman-5.5-en.a4.pdf does not explain that in section "mysqldump".
[10:54] <compdoc> person, you have any idea how many Windows programs in the world are actually infections? Users have no idea who wrote them, and ye they install them
[10:55] <compdoc> yet
[10:55] <theadmin> !yay | nrdb
[10:55] <W4sp> theadmin: Yes, that's a thing really nagging me, for instance you don't get printer spooling authorized from CLI, your key rings don't open and such. It can be a pain in the back.
[10:55] <person> compdoc hmmm I guess you're right, I mean you can't even see the source for them programs, right?
[10:55] <jpds> theadmin: That means that it's community supported, not commerically supported by Canonical.
[10:55] <person> like no one can read the source code for photoshop
[10:55] <Ormie> bye all
[10:55] <jpds> theadmin: Just as there are other members of the Ubuntu family.
[10:55] <person> what if photoshop has code that copys for internet cahce or something?
[10:56] <TJ-> Ormie: you can use the cdcd package and tools to do it
[10:56] <compdoc> person, if you use packages from the approved Ubuntu sources, they are tested
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> person  no paranoia here, please
[10:56] <person> sorry
[10:56] <theadmin> jpds: I see... Well, I don't really understand it, and I don't seriously think support from Canonical matters all that much long as the community support exists.
[10:56] <jpds> theadmin: Tell that to an entreprise. ;)
[10:56] <person> I'm guessing Lubuntu can use ubuntu approved packages
[10:57] <cfhowlett> person: yep.
[10:57] <administrator_> 可一说中文不
[10:57] <theadmin> person: It does use Ubuntu approved packages. All the Lubuntu repositories are same as the Ubuntu ones.
[10:57] <theadmin> jpds: Heh
[10:57] <overclucker> luftikuss: click the database you wantt to import it into, and look for the import button. import as SQL.
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !korean|administrator
[10:57] <October82> anyone know how to change purple color of grub?
[10:57] <W4sp> person: Photoshop, like almost all Adobe products, try to play E.T. ...calling home. You may consider to edit your /etc/hosts. ;-)
[10:58] <szal> cfhowlett: language recognition fail ;)
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !jp
[11:00] <luftikuss> overclucker, Noticed. This will take me a while because I am not used to this subject and not fluent in it.
[11:00] <himanshu_m786> hi , I want my icons in ubuntu 12.04 . can anybody  tell me where is all the icons are stored ?
[11:00] <himanshu_m786> i want to change them
[11:01] <theadmin> himanshu_m786: Most of them are spread across /usr/share/icons/ and /usr/share/pixmaps/
[11:01] <October82> anyone know how to change purple color of grub? please?
[11:01] <overclucker> luftikuss: you may need to destroy the tables in the database before importing.
[11:02] <luftikuss> overclucker, Ok.
[11:05] <TreaverHoerig> Hello, I need help. I recently launched WOW with WINE. WINE runs wow even better than this computer did when windows ran it. The only thing is all the icons are either scrambled or completely missing. I need help fixing this so I can actually use the items and play wow. Here is a screen shot so you can see for yourself. : http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:05] <TJ-> luftikuss: You'd usually use mysqlimport to add mysqldump data to a database. See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/copying-databases.html
[11:06] <overclucker> luftikuss: there should be a check all option, then select drop from the 'with selected' box and confirm
[11:06] <luftikuss> TJ-, I see
[11:06] <cfhowlett> TreaverHoerig: see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1922
[11:08] <theadmin> Is there a way I can tell Ubuntu to automount any FAT32 drive with iocharset=utf8,codepage=1251?
[11:08] <MrUnkownGuy> hello
[11:08] <MrUnkownGuy> how do i install Folding @ Home?
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> anyone?
[11:09] <theadmin> !patience | MrUnkownGuy
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> srry
[11:09] <isnnnn> MrUnkownGuy: download the .deb
[11:09] <TJ-> theadmin: I believe you can use pam_mount.conf (see man 5 pam_mount.conf)
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> thanks
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> brb
[11:10] <theadmin> TJ-: Hm, thanks
[11:11] <theadmin> TJ-: No manual entry for pam_mount.conf
[11:11] <himanshu_m786> theadmin : there i didn't  not find  default folder icon  .
[11:12] <TJ-> theadmin: You'll need package libpam-mount
[11:12] <Ormie> Hello
[11:13] <compdoc> how's life in the big city?
[11:13] <theadmin> TJ-: Okay, hm, does that work in KDE?
[11:13] <Ormie> Please help. MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this?
[11:13] <Ormie> .
[11:13] <Volpes> Hi!
[11:14] <odigity> Is there a way to associate a short-cut with a specific app window?  My problem is I use three apps when I program (browser, editor, shell), and Alt-Tab can be annoying if you forget which of those had focus previously
[11:14] <Ormie> hmm...
[11:14] <odigity> would love to be able to jump to each of the three specifically
[11:14] <Ormie> MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this?
[11:15] <theadmin> !patience Ormie
[11:15] <theadmin> Oops
[11:15] <spaceace85> oh gosh, I need help with ALSA and my new motherboard :'(
[11:15] <Ormie> nou
[11:15] <administrator_> e
[11:16] <Ormie> theadmin, bleh... i dodged it. :D
[11:16] <MrUnkownGuy> i can't find it
[11:16] <Volpes> Just brought a new UX32VD and now i want to install Ubuntu on it. I have read that UX32VD is only stable on kernel 3.4 and higher. Should i install 12.04 and build custom kernel or install 12.10 aplha?
[11:16] <Volpes> alpha*
[11:16] <MrUnkownGuy> i gtg
[11:17] <theadmin> MrUnkownGuy: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage - click the "Other Versions", find the .deb for your architecture
[11:18] <TJ-> Volpes: You don't need to, we already build the mainline kernels and package them. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[11:18] <Layke> If I wanted to reinstall ubuntu on my solid state.. what would you advise I do? I'm a little worried about it taking forever since I forget what packages I've installed, etc. Or perhaps missing configs.
[11:19] <btcbuy314> can somebody reply to me, i need to check if the color is readable now
[11:19] <llutz_> Layke: backup /etc and a list of installed packages
[11:19] <llutz_> !clone | Layke
[11:19] <Volpes> TJ: Thank you! I will install 12.04 at once :D
[11:20] <TJ-> Layke: You could simply clone the existing installation over to the other device and then switch... which will ensure any custom config is retained, or you could generate a list of installed packages and then use it later in a script to install those packages
[11:20] <btcbuy314> i need somebody to type btcbuy314: test
[11:20] <TJ-> Volpes: for you information I'm running 3.5 here and it's very smooth
[11:20] <btcbuy314> btcbuy314: test
[11:20] <TJ-> btcbuy314: Yes we see you
[11:20] <Layke> Thanks. That clone sounds good too
[11:20] <Ormie> Please help. MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this???
[11:20] <odigity> I figured it out.  Super Key + Num
[11:21] <btcbuy314> TJ-: thanks, previously the the name of the person replying to me was yellow and unreadable
[11:21] <TJ-> btcbuy314: Ahhh, the colour choices can get a bit over the top sometimes
[11:22] <btcbuy314> yep yellow name on white background was getting very annoying
[11:23] <Ormie> btcbuy314: try black background.
[11:23] <btcbuy314> i would tilt my screen all the way back to barely be able to make it out
[11:26] <joseph-soares> About SSH, I've changed server settings and client doesn't know it anymore
[11:27] <joseph-soares> when I try to connect it returns this message: "WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED"
[11:27] <theadmin> joseph-soares: Well, yeah, that's supposed to happen if your server's settings changed, just let it trust it again
[11:28] <JasperCoenraats> hello
[11:29] <JasperCoenraats> can anybody help with remove a printercomponent for installing a lexmark again after failing?
[11:29] <TJ-> joseph-soares: If you trust the new key the server is presenting, then you can remove the known key on the client using: "ssh-keygen -R <servername>"
[11:30] <JasperCoenraats> tj: sorry I don't I get ypur point
[11:31] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: (s)he's not talking to you.
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> aha
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> I get it
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> sorry
[11:32] <JasperCoenraats> is there someone who can help me staying with linux?
[11:32] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: "staying with"?
[11:32] <joseph-soares> theadmin, http://paste.debian.net/182539
[11:33] <theadmin> joseph-soares: As TJ- said, run ssh-keygen -R servername
[11:33] <JasperCoenraats> I have to leave it and get back to win, for just a printer
[11:34] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Open the CUPS configuration, try to add your printer. Or look on your manufacturer's website for a PPD file if you're not seeing it in the CUPS list
[11:34] <JasperCoenraats> cups?\
[11:34] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Open this in your web browser: http://127.0.0.1:631
[11:34] <joseph-soares> TJ-, theadmin : thank you.
[11:35] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: cups = Common Unix Printing System
[11:35] <JasperCoenraats> thnx
[11:35] <JasperCoenraats> gonna look there first
[11:35] <theadmin> wait, wut. CUPS is developed by Apple?! That's... very new and very dissapointing for me
[11:37] <odigity> zeroconf was also developed by Apple (was called Bonjour).  they do occasionally do something beyond sell fancy hardware
[11:38] <dr_willis> did they develop it.. or did they just swallow up a smaller company that developed it.. ;)
[11:38] <theadmin> odigity: "fancy hardware"? More of "fancy software"... I can buy hardware twice better than Apple's for the same price you know. Anyway, we got offtopic.
[11:39] <odigity> dr willis - I am not google, but just this once I'll do your work for you:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUPS
[11:39] <odigity> what's the topic?
[11:39] <theadmin> odigity: Ubuntu support questions here only, basically.
[11:39] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: username and password?
[11:40] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Your system user's username/password
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> aha
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> well, that working all the way, accept in these kind of cases
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> I can login with it in my pc
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> but not in authentications like this
[11:41] <JasperCoenraats> are you familliair with that?
[11:41] <odigity> theadmin - well, I came here 30m ago to ask a question, but ended up having to answer it myself  :)
[11:41] <odigity> did anyone see my answer, btw?  it's not documented in the usual places, and it's terribly useful
[11:41] <theadmin> odigity: That happens, unfortunately. Though you feel the best when you figure it out yourself don't you?
[11:41] <paulus68> perhaps a stupid question how does ubuntu behave with pci usb3 adapters? is this supported within Ubuntu Server12.04
[11:41] <odigity> theadmin - when it turns out to be easy, yes
[11:41] <dr_willis> post the question and answer to askubuntu.com for future referance perhaps odigity
[11:42] <TJ-> Super+<number>
[11:42] <odigity> TJ - yup, that's the one
[11:42] <dr_willis> paulus68:  pci or pci express?   the pci express i had worked fine
[11:43] <Volpes> So what kernel should I install on Ubuntu 12.04: 3.4 or 3.5? As said previously standard kernel is not a choice...
[11:43] <theadmin> What does "internal error" mean in "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error"? That appeared in my notification area.
[11:43] <paulus68> dr_willis: well I'am just informing myself before I buy the required pci/pci express card
[11:43] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: did you see my message? I can login with a combination that never works for authentication in the kind of situations
[11:44] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Hm, well, I'm not sure
[11:44] <TJ-> odigity: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[11:44] <TJ-> odigity: It's called the "meta" key in documentation
[11:44] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: i even  reinstalled Ubuntu for it
[11:45] <JasperCoenraats> didnot help
[11:45] <dr_willis> if you press and hold the super key. 12.04+ shows a shortcut page
[11:45] <odigity> I added a note to the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts/64572#64572
[11:46] <Guest47966> go on
[11:46] <odigity> TJ - nice (the URL you posted).  they refer to it as the Meta key instead of the Super key, but they also describe adding Shift to open a new window in the same app, which is another frustration of mine (until now)
[11:46] <alessandro> ciao
[11:47] <alessandro> film?
[11:47] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:47] <odigity> just tried it.  it actually opened a new tab instead of new window (in gedit).  still useful
[11:47] <dr_willis> meta key = alt key i thought
[11:47] <DJones> !piracy | alessandro
[11:47] <odigity> nope, meta + number (1-0)
[11:47] <odigity> sorry, misread your statement
[11:47] <theadmin> dr_willis: Normally, Meta is Alt indeed. The Windows key is Super.
[11:48] <TJ-> If you hold down the meta key the left dock appears and after a second or two each launcher item has its meta number superimposed so you know which key to press
[11:48] <theadmin> But some people seem to mix the definitions
[11:48] <dr_willis> now we need a  'duper' key.. so we can super-duper-delete
[11:48] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hehe
[11:48] <odigity> not in the help.ubuntu.com article that TJ linked to.  they clearly mention both Meta and Alt, implying that they are different, which means they are using Meta to refer to the Windows key
[11:48] <TJ-> dr_willis: Shift+Delete is my super-duper-GUI-delete
[11:48] <theadmin> Speaking of, does Ctrl-Alt-Delete do anything by default?
[11:48] <odigity> so Meta = Super = Windows.  Alt is just Alt
[11:48] <TJ-> Meta key: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/windows-key.html
[11:48] <odigity> theadmin - try it
[11:49] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> but: windows is not super ;)
[11:49] <theadmin> odigity: Well, I know that in Fedora that shortcut reboots. I have a driver install going on, don't want to interrupt that
[11:49] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu --- Incase the other didn't send
[11:49] <odigity> on ubuntu 12.04, ctrl+alt+del prompts me if I want to log out
[11:49] <dr_willis> theadmin:  at the console it does i belive
[11:49] <odigity> so, it's safe to try
[11:49] <theadmin> TrevMyster: Open "Additional Drivers", look for your video card driver.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> TrevMyster  better ask in #wine, i guess
[11:50] <inflex> Anyone running Ubuntu from a USB stick?  I've used the usb-creator-gtk but every time I boot it still asks if I want to install or try - rather than just going straight into "trying" and using it like a real disc :(
[11:50] <theadmin> inflex: Well, you shouldn't have used usb-creator. Just boot Ubuntu from elsewhere and install it to the USB stick as you would to a hard drive.
[11:50] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:50] <dr_willis> inflex:  you can do a 'full' nirmal install to a usb if itsa big enough
[11:51] <inflex> oh... that simple eh... *doh*
[11:51] <TJ-> TrevMyster: That effect can happen on native Windows too with WoW, if the wrong resolution is selected. Also, the corrupted icons is usually because the video card has run out of memory for all the textures.
[11:51] <inflex> too many years with UNIX and I get caught out by the 'dead easy' option
[11:51] <compdoc> inflex, then you didnt install Ubuntu, you just transferred the installer
[11:51] <dr_willis> inflex:  be sure grub installs to the mbr of the usb
[11:51] <inflex> tx folks.
[11:51] <TrevMyster> TJ How do I fix it
[11:51] <en1gma> does the ubuntu live cd have a "toram" option ?
[11:52] <TJ-> TrevMyster: there isn't always a fix... make sure you've got the best Ubuntu drivers for the video controller first
[11:52] <dr_willis> en1gma:  i think it does.. or at least used to
[11:52] <dr_willis> !bootoptions
[11:52] <en1gma> what is the correct command? is it "toram=yes" or just "toram"?
[11:52] <TrevMyster> TJ How do I check that
[11:52] <s3r3n1t7> en1gma, if it still works it won't have changed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583206
[11:53] <inflex> oh joy... it wants 4.4GB... and naturally I have 4GB sticks *hooray*
[11:53] <TJ-> TrevMyster: As theadmin said... " Open "Additional Drivers", look for your video card driver"
[11:54] <dr_willis> inflex: id reccomend a 16+gb flash. lubuntu can go on a 4gb.. barely
[11:54] <TJ-> inflex: it's the obesity pandemic :p
[11:54] <dr_willis> found 32gb usb on sale for $20 last week
[11:54] <inflex> dr_willis: you guys are killing me... I'm going to get my Slackware 3.6 floppies and sulk in the corner with my beloved 1.2.13 kernel.
[11:55] <luftikuss> overclucker, When trying to import the file 20120807, pphpMyAdmin reports: "localhost: You probably tried to upload too large file. Please refer to documentation for ways to workaround this limit." The file size is 73 MiB.
[11:55] <dr_willis> inflex:  cp/m all the way!
[11:55] <inflex> dr_willis: was going to get one of those new ultra-tiny USB sticks (the ones that aren't much bigger than those Bluetooth dongles) and put it on this laptop rather than replacing the HDD
[11:55] <TJ-> dr_willis: do you trust it not to be a faked 4GB device with hacked firmware that misreports its size?
[11:56] <thomas001> Hi, powertop on my EeePC shows several "Bad" parameters (like "VM writeback timeout" or "SATA link power managment for /dev/sda")...where to change these settings permanently in ubuntu? i remember that you can write some pm-utils scripts to change them, but is there an easier way?
[11:56] <s3r3n1t7> luftikuss, so probably ... it was to large for php to handle. Is it an SQL file you're uploading? Why not do it via CLI?
[11:56] <dr_willis> TJ-:   kingston brand from walmart.. they had 100's of them in a big tub. ;)
[11:56] <TJ-> luftikuss: php often has a limit on the size of files it will accept, to prevent denials of service
[11:57] <TJ-> dr_willis: Nice! I had to deal with some fake Kingstons recently... the packaging had a big clue because they'd mispelt a URL with "kington"
[11:57] <digitalcrow> help me please i have tearing !! If i use compiz i dont have tearing but my pc is low-end
[11:57] <digitalcrow> Is there any way to fix tearing without enabling compiz ??
[11:57] <akem> digitalcrow, not really.
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> digitalcrow  usea lighter DE
[11:58] <dr_willis> enable the vsync option perhaps in ccsm or the drivers digitalcrow
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> use a*
[11:58] <digitalcrow> i tried lubuntu and i have tearing
[11:58] <digitalcrow> on ubuntu with full effects i dont have any tearing at all
[11:58] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, In the mean time I managed to perform this loading operation using a command-line command successfully. Yes ist is an SQL file, produced by mysqldump.
[11:58] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:59] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: do you know i can remove the component lexmark.wsu.lagacy?
[11:59] <TrevMyster> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log?
[11:59] <luftikuss> TJ-, I see. Thank you for informing. I need now to find out what the maximum php file size is
[11:59] <TJ-> digitalcrow: I think that's because the Sync to Vsync is enabled. Not sure how you enable that without compiz but I bet there's a way, although it might depend on the video device and driver in use
[12:00] <TJ-> luftikuss: That will be set by the server administrator, you'd probably have to ask them
[12:00] <JasperCoenraats> any one?
[12:01] <digitalcrow> why i have tearing without compiz and i dont have tearing with compiz ??  its strange cause compositor is more demanding .
[12:01] <luftikuss> TJ-, I am the sole owner and operator of both computers. So I am the "administrator" at the same time. My handicap is that I am new to the subject here.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> JasperCoenraats: wassup?
[12:02] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: see if other lexmark packages are still installed. dpkg-query -l 'lexmark*'
[12:03] <JasperCoenraats> i try
[12:03] <TJ-> luftikuss: Yay! then you can edit the server's php.ini file and increase the limit. The values you need to set are "upload_max_filesize" "post_max_size" and "memory_limit"
[12:04] <JasperCoenraats> I guess thats for the terminal, and it didnot work
[12:04] <TJ-> luftikuss: Look at the section on post_max_size on the PHP docs: http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php
[12:05] <October82> one question, i have 8gb of ram, what version of ubuntu i should install? 32 or 64 bits
[12:06] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: yes, we generally deal with terminal commands here
[12:06] <TJ-> October82: 64-bit amd64
[12:06] <October82> thank you TJ-
[12:06] <October82> what is the difference?
[12:07] <JasperCoenraats> TJ he didnot find anything, he says
[12:07] <October82> I mean if I'm going to notice difference
[12:07] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: Then I think you need to log what files the installer finds that makes it think its already installed, and remove them
[12:09] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: this forums post claims to have solved it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822102
[12:09] <TJ-> October82: For one, it'll use all those 8GB of RAM, not just the first 3GB or so
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> October82: 64bit weill see your RAM as one block, if you use 32bit with PAE you will see all your RAM but each process will only have access to 3.2Gb RAM
[12:10] <TJ-> October82: The kernel and some user processes will be faster because the 64-bit CPU instruction set has many more internal registers
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> there should be a factoid about the difference between 32 and 64 bit
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> October82: also heavy CPU intensive tasks like video and audio convertions will be quicker
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: you can make one
[12:11] <Pici> MonkeyDust: write one, and we'll use it.
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> ah?
[12:11] <October82> oh that wonderfull, thank you very much TJ- and ActionParsnip
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: for example:   !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[12:12]  * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to for example: !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[12:13] <October82> downloading now
[12:13] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, It seems I am still stuck with this low resolution :-(
[12:14] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I would love to know what needs to go in to a xorg.conf for my chipset
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: I can give you mine if you like, it may help
[12:14] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | Paddy_NI
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134153/
[12:15] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, cheers mate :-)
[12:15] <luftikuss> TJ-, I found the limits set of the first two parameters whch you have mentioned. Both are much lower than the size of my file to be uploaded. The memory  size given seems to be sufficient.  --  I need to go now for a schedule. --  I think I can continue afterwards alone using the valueable information you have given to me. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[12:16] <TJ-> luftikuss: As you have control of the server, why not save the hassle and use the terminal and use mysqlimport ?
[12:16] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I've an HP pavilion dv7 with beats audio... trying to get the subwoofer working I've added a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf (options snd-hda-intel model=ref). Now I've no audio by speakers and even if I commented that line and rebooted I've no audio!!! how is it possible? why restoring deaulf conf file doesn't make my speakers working?
[12:16] <s3r3n1t7> luftikuss, if you want to upload it via phpmyadmin, do note that it is not the general php file you should look into but the one used by the apache module, which (from memory) usually is set at something like 8mb
[12:16] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: file doesnot exist
[12:17] <luftikuss> TJ- I will consider that. I am not yet familiar with mysqlimport.
[12:17] <mbutubuntu> what should I do? I'm sure I'll not able to use the subwoofer but it's very strange that now (even with the default conf file) I've no speakers..!!!
[12:17] <mbutubuntu> I'm seriously thinking that Ubuntu has some problems with configuration...
[12:17] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, Yes, I have found the value 8 MB.
[12:18] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: so the terminal denies the extence of the files lexmark sees
[12:18] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, Thank you.
[12:18] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: I seem to recall something is written to a config cache file in the user directory... but its a long time since I messed with sound so things may have changed
[12:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Sorry to torture but do I need a fully fleshed out xorg.conf or can I just put this in by itself? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134161/
[12:18] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, so you think to a HOME-hosted conf file?
[12:19] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: not as such... I think the packages are broken and don't clean up after themselves properly
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: you'll need the full thing
[12:19] <JasperCoenraats> Yes, I guess so
[12:19] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, ah then I'm lost :-/
[12:19] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: Let's think. You've changed the ALSA config but pulseaudio is the sound server, so some interaction has occured
[12:19] <Kingsy> I am having some problems with performance on ubuntu.. for example.. I could be extracting a 4.5GB rar file.. while this is happening the rest of the operating system is SOOO slow.. its virtually unusable.. why is this? I assumed the linux kernel was good at multitasking ?
[12:20] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: I allready got that idea, but i really like to solve it properly
[12:20] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: or do I have to reinstall linux?
[12:20] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: Where did you get the packages from? Maybe I can download the same ones and check them out
[12:20] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, so what should I search for? a pulseaudio conf file in the $HOME ?
[12:21] <JasperCoenraats> www.lexmark.com TJ-
[12:21] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: Have you checked out this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting/
[12:22] <s3r3n1t7> I'm having a small problem with creating a VPN connection. I've installed the appropriate modules for network-manager, it shows up when I click on add, but there is nothing I can chance. I've also noticed that the unlock buttons are always grey and not clickable. I can use sudo. I cannot run network-manager from CLI, it does not do anything.
[12:23] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: I need to know the *exact* file(s) you downloaded
[12:23] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to get Minecraft to work in Linux. When I start it up, I login and BLACKSCREEN. I really want to fix this.
[12:23] <s3r3n1t7> Treaver, MC doesn't work with the default java packages. You'll need to install sun's java packages.
[12:23] <Treaver> can you tell me how s3
[12:24] <JasperCoenraats> lexmark-inkjet-legacy-wJRE-1.0-1.amd64.deb.sh
[12:24] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, could be useful to remove all files from $HOME/.pulse/ ?
[12:25] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, I've to say you that also at starting (gdm) I've no audio, in gdm there is no user logged in so it is more and more strange, do you?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: can you give the output of:
[12:25] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, of?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: starting (gdm) I've no audio, in gdm there is no user logg
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: stupid putty not pasting
[12:26] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, should I be root?
[12:26] <Outlander> teybannerman.com
[12:26] <Outlander> DAMN
[12:26] <JasperCoenraats> tj-: http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=product&userlocale=NL_NL&locale=nl&productCode=LEXMARK_IMPACT_S305&segment=SUPPORT&nonEFIGSLanguage=en#3
[12:26] <Outlander> sorrt
[12:26] <Outlander> sorry
[12:26] <JasperCoenraats> th 1st one
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: no, or it would be prefixed with sudo
[12:27] <Outlander> installed owncloud on 12.04, what do I need to enter into localhost/owncloud to get it up and running?
[12:28] <faki> "!lista"
[12:28] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, alsa-project.org has problems o.0 - I can't ping nor loading the webpage
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> is there any mirror for that script?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: sure, I have it in my dropbox for when it goes screwy
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, could you send me your copy?
[12:30] <UKWolfy> Hey!
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[12:31] <UKWolfy> Quick queston, is it possible to change the colour of the status icons in ubuntu 12.04? (I mean the icons along the top right, battery indicator, sound, time etc)
[12:31] <compdoc> UKWolfy, theyre stil working on that kind of thing
[12:31] <UKWolfy> compdoc: ah okay, thanks, I would very much like them to be the android blue colour :)
[12:32] <UKWolfy> compdoc: any idea when it will be available for change?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> UKWolfy: it should obey the theme you select
[12:33] <compdoc> UKWolfy, there are many tweaks not yet available, but that are just starting to be provided. Unity is too new yet
[12:33] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, alsa-info maybe is searching for updates and it hangs up because it can connect to the alsa-project.org host... o.0
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> I'm getting hungry!!!!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: does the system have web access?
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> angry... ahahahah :-)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: doesn't answer my question......
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, yes, obviuos!! I'm also usins openDNS
[12:35] <UKWolfy> ActionParsnip: Ah I see, you wouldn't know if there are any themes that look the same as ambiance but with blue icons?
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> I can resolve alsa-project... I can't connect it
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: not obvious at all
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> (obvious for me :)
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I've reconfigured alsa-base and some other packages with aptitude
[12:36] <mbutubuntu> should I rebood or alsa force-reload is enough?
[12:36] <mbutubuntu> I've done it but it's still not working..!!!
[12:36] <monster> Does lubuntu have the GNU complier
[12:36] <monster> for C and C++ complier
[12:37] <mbutubuntu> Oh my god! I've only changed and reverted a conf file...!
[12:37] <monster> because in it's applications list it oesn't have it
[12:37] <mbutubuntu> It's not a Unix behaviour!
[12:38] <Pici> monster: the build-essential metapacakge should install everything you need to compile things.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: will you quit with the pointless exclamation marks, they achieve nothing at all
[12:38] <monster> cheers
[12:38] <vagn_karlsson> Hello, does the copy-on-write feature of Btrfs mean that a file copy is always instantaneous?
[12:39] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok, this is because I'm angry. If you have any idea to solve this problem I'll be happy to follow your advices :-)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: what, because of a sound issue? I think you need help
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: I'm geting the same issue so maybe the alsa servers are being maintained or having an issue
[12:39] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, it's not the sound issue itself....
[12:40] <multi_io> can you boot the kernel from a lwm+raid1 volume? does grub support that?
[12:40] <mbutubuntu> It's because I modified a conf file... restored to the original state but Ubuntu hasn't restored the audio.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: did you run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then reboot?
[12:43] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I asked you some minutes ago if was useful to remove .pulse :-)
[12:43] <mbutubuntu> I do it now
[12:44] <odigity> ok, learning about the new Windows key - shortcut overlay feature in Unity has got my mind racing
[12:44] <odigity> it would be sweet if app did the same thing with a standard keyboard shortcut - brought up on overlay of keyboard shortcuts for that app
[12:45] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I'm rebooting
[12:45] <odigity> and furthermore, it would be sweet to have a collection of standard-format cheat sheets that you could browse using native desktop keyboard shortcuts when programming, because there's so much shit you need to remember
[12:49] <usr13> obtxo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[12:49] <usr13> odigity:
[12:49] <usr13> (Sorry, wrong nick)
[12:50] <ahoneybun> usr13, in Ubuntu 12.04 you can just hold the super key
[12:50] <odigity> I've seen that document.  why are you linking to it?
[12:51] <usr13> odigity: I didn't know you hadn't seen it. You said "it would be sweet to have a collection of standard-format cheat sheets that you could browse"
[12:52] <muslim> hi
[12:52] <odigity> yes, I said that, but I don't see how that link relates to what I said.  I'm talking about a collection of cheat sheets for developers, not the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts
[12:52] <odigity> I mean something like this: http://cheat.errtheblog.com/
[12:52] <odigity> but available natively on your desktop via a keyboard shortcut, not as a web page
[12:52] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, nothing to do! :-(
[12:53] <cwesterfield> Anyone have a minute to help me compile libtorrent?
[12:53] <cwesterfield> I get this error "configure: error: Package requirements (libcrypto) were not met:"
[12:54] <usr13> odigity: Maybe I thought you'd use the infomation to create the desktop image of your dreams.
[12:55] <odigity> I wouldn't know where to begin
[12:55] <UKWolfy> just to be sure before i give up, there is no way to change the text and icons colour in the menu bar? (While keeping the rest the same as ambiance)
[12:55] <craigbass1976> I need libqt4-dev so I went hunting in the software center for it.  Never popped up with a few different searh terms I used, but  sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev worked fine.  I wonder how many other packages don't show up when I'm hunting.
[12:55] <end_guy> craigbass1976: apt-cache search libqt4-dev
[12:56] <craigbass1976> end_guy, I meant in the software center though.  I'll go in wondering if there might be any such and such, now I think that everything's not showing up; before I just figured it wasn't there.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: you need that script to run
[12:57] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, headphones works
[12:57] <mbutubuntu> but speakers doesn't
[12:58] <end_guy> craigbass1976: Software center isn't good for what you're trying to do. If you really want a GUI that can accomplish that sort of thing try installing synaptic and using that.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[12:58] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, give me please again the url of the script
[12:58] <usr13> craigbass1976: What do you need libqt4-dev for?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mtfk: its on that page too
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: step3
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> craigbass1976, +1 For Synaptic Package Manager; it used to be installed by default, on previous versions.
[13:01] <craigbass1976> usr13, Dust Racer 2D.  :)   This is hilarious.  I'm trying to think of the arcade game like this -- top down racer, used to have four steering wheels in the arcade
[13:02] <end_guy> craigbass1976: nice :-)
[13:03] <usr13> craigbass1976: But you can just use apt-get  sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev
[13:04] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, problems with alsa-project host again
[13:04] <craigbass1976> usr13, I know, and I did.  I was just noticing that in the "hunting for a package" stage, it was not showing up in the Software Center.
[13:04] <usr13> oh ok
[13:09] <en1gma> is there a script that can generate a live cd iso of your currently running ubuntu hdd install?
[13:09] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm looking for a reliable greaphics card for use in an office workstation. It should be capable of deul-monitors (dvi or vga - my monitors are vga). Any suggestions?
[13:09] <agentgasmask> en1gma: remastersys
[13:09] <en1gma> agentgasmask have you used it?
[13:10] <agentgasmask> en1gma: I havn't had much luck with it, but that was a while ago (2 years)
[13:10] <ubuntuuser213123> is xubuntu actually lighter?
[13:10] <mbutubuntu> ubuntuuser213123, yes
[13:10] <ubuntuuser213123> the wikipedia pag used to say it's hard to tell the difference
[13:10] <mbutubuntu> xfce is lighter than gnome
[13:10] <ThinkT510> ubuntuuser213123: it can be yes
[13:11] <en1gma> i had tried one of those remaster scripts with bt5r2 about a couple months ago and it was pretty difficult but i got the job done but since then i have installed ubuntu and that script was a script and a guide
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> also does xubuntu have the same command tools as ubuntu?
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> yano cat, pipes, bash
[13:12] <jpds> ubuntuuser213123: Yes, exactly the same base.
[13:12] <en1gma> was hoping for a one click solution to spit out a cust ISO (for a live cd) option
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> awesome, I feel a bit embarrassed using it after coming from gentoo
[13:12] <jpds> ubuntuuser213123: Different desktop environment.
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> it's just I was always concentraing on configuring gentoo it wasted my time
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> so I thought xubuntu should be the one for me
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> THis system has 6GB ram
[13:15] <lattera> is there any way to migrate an ext4 fs to btrfs while mounted?
[13:16] <ThinkT510> lattera: no
[13:16] <romy420> i want ti have a dark themefor gnome3 in 12.04. when i install/copy themes in ~/.themes it only shows up as a window theme. i'm a bit confused about which type of theme i would have to download to just a working dark theme for gnome. how can i do that?
[13:16] <romy420> just have a*
[13:16] <spirit3_> Afternoon all - anyone here work for Canonical in London?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> spirit3_: why do you ask?
[13:23] <s3r3n1t7> lattera, the main problem with live migration is changing data. How are you going to add that data to a new filesystem while also keeping it in sync with the old one? It just can't be done. Best you can do is a freeze on the current FS which will allow read but refuse writes, then copy it over, remount new one over old one and continue. Do note, that depending on the amount of data there will be a long time of freeze where no new data can be wr
[13:23] <s3r3n1t7> itten.
[13:24] <lattera> not sure how sun did it, but they did live migration for zfs
[13:24] <lattera> ufs->zfs
[13:24] <s3r3n1t7> lattera, initial googling shows that ZFS is an upgrade of UFS, so they only added a few things to it. They didn't touch the data.
[13:26] <kristenbb> How does opennebula work to distribute the work across multiple nodes? Is it possible to have different threads of the same VM being executed in different physical machines?
[13:27] <savio> i think not
[13:27] <akls> how can I configure 3 finger tap in ubuntu to open terminal?
[13:28] <lattera> s3r3n1t7: zfs isn't an upgrade of ufs... it's a completely new fs
[13:28] <akls> I can enable 3 finger tap to do a middle click in synaptics, but what about opening a terminal?
[13:28] <lattera> it's where btrfs got its inspiration
[13:28] <gry> hi, sudo broke after updating to 12.04, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1742626, is this a known issue? thanks
[13:28] <Pici> kristenbb: You'r probably be better off asking in #opennebula
[13:34] <veiliance> hey guys
[13:34] <veiliance> what version of wine does ubuntu 12.04 support?
[13:35] <veiliance> any1 here?
[13:35] <gry> yes
[13:35] <DJones> veiliance: Its 1.4
[13:35] <steveire> Hi. When I plug in my external usb drive, it seems to not give me any permissions on the user level. root owns everything.
[13:36] <veiliance> sudo nautilus
[13:36] <DJones> !gksudo | veiliance
[13:36] <steveire> I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Per-User_Mounts and ran '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1' manually with the same result
[13:36] <veiliance> steveire nautilus is your solution :P
[13:36] <steveire> I don't think so.
[13:37] <veiliance> xD
[13:37] <steveire> I'm using kubuntu
[13:37] <steveire> Both use udisks
[13:37] <steveire> Riddell: Any idea?
[13:38] <savio> hey guys i want to contribut for ubuntu
[13:39] <savio> what should i do first
[13:39] <akls> savio, which way?
[13:39] <smartboyhw> I'm helping savio.
[13:39] <smartboyhw> I actually recommended him here.
[13:40] <savio> i'm interested in security/testing
[13:40] <akls> savio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[13:40] <smartboyhw> I gave him that link
[13:40] <akls> :)
[13:43] <savio> reading it
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> savio, You may wish to have a look here: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
[13:43] <nabil_> hi guys
[13:43] <savio> Sidewinder1: i'm using it
[13:43] <nabil_> someone can tell me how to launch an app from terminal?
[13:43] <nabil_> what command should I use
[13:43] <savio> type the name
[13:43] <nabil_> just the name??
[13:43] <savio> i don't know
[13:44] <savio> use apropos
[13:44] <nabil_> ??
[13:44] <nabil_> what is apropos
[13:44] <savio> "apropos"  is command
[13:44] <nabil_> I am a newbie
[13:44] <compdoc> nabil_, the name if you want to run it normally, or use sudo if you want to run as admin
[13:44] <spirit3_> nabil_: to launch (for example) firefox, just type firefox
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> nabil_  type nautilus&
[13:44] <savio> provide apropriate command to search string
[13:45] <geekbri> I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T420s and there is a really weird screen flickering that occurs.  If I turn the brightness down it seems to go away.  Anybody have an idea why this is happening or how to stop it?
[13:45] <akls> nabil_, maybe you should consider using nohup to make applications stay when you close your terminal
[13:46] <sdimkov> I have troubles getting pidgin-sipe to work with Empathy.. It just keeps connecting with no result
[13:46] <nabil_> cant launch the
[13:46] <nabil_> app
[13:46] <nabil_> in the software center it says it is installed
[13:47] <nabil_> but doesn't show up anywhere
[13:47] <ThinkT510> nabil_: what are you trying to launch?
[13:47] <nabil_> can't find it in dash
[13:47] <nabil_> snespurify
[13:47] <compdoc> nabil_, what app?
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Guys, I used apt-get to get Chromium, where can I find it?
[13:47] <nabil_> to convert games
[13:47] <smartboyhw> !support | smartboyhw
[13:47] <Saiki> is there any way to install tomcat 5.5 on 12.04?
[13:48] <alankila> Saiki: wasn't it tomcat55 package
[13:48] <gsr> nabil_:  whats the name of the app in software center?
[13:48] <nabil_> snespurify
[13:48] <smartboyhw> ubottu's PM is no use.
[13:48] <compdoc> try SNESPurify
[13:48] <alankila> apologies, it doesn't seem to be available anymore
[13:48] <Saiki> alankila: tried tomcat5.5 gives me a regex output and 5 isn't there
[13:48] <smartboyhw> Waiting for answers...
[13:49] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: chromium is the game, chromium-browser is the browser
[13:49] <smartboyhw> chromium-browser.
[13:49] <nabil_> command not found
[13:49] <compdoc> smartboyhw, under internet apps?
[13:49] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: in unity press the super key and start to type chromium
[13:49] <smartboyhw> thanks, THinkT510.
[13:49] <nabil_> is there a way I can launch the app straight from the software center
[13:50] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: super key = windows logo
[13:50] <gsr> nabil_: the vast majority of programs you install from the software enter will put the 'app' ( or at least the launcher executable) in /usr/bin.  try entering the command (without the quotes) "ls /usr/bin/*nes*"
[13:50] <smartboyhw> ThinkT510: I know the super key part, don't worry.
[13:50] <alexey_knyshev> TJ-: a u there?
[13:51] <nabil_> gsr: it says /usr/bin/wineserver in green
[13:53] <nabil_> no way to launch it directly from software center??
[13:53] <gsr> nabil_ try "whereis bsnes"
[13:54] <nabil_> gsr: bsnes: /usr/games/bsnes /usr/share/man/man6/bsnes.6.gz
[13:54] <usr13> sofrware center is for installing applications, not launching them.
[13:55] <nabil_> what should I do?
[13:56] <gsr> nabil_: bsnes is the executable for snespurify.
[13:56] <Saiki> ok, so tomcat5 is in drapper drake, is there anywhere I can get the debs at?
[13:57] <gsr> so to use SNESPurify, use the command "bsnes".
[13:57] <nabil_> gsr: so what to do next??
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> !patience| smartboyhw
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> smartboyhw  apologies, my screen was lagging
[13:58] <nabil_> gsr: usually they are two separate apps
[13:58] <nabil_> when I launch bsnes I can't find snespurify
[13:59] <garikaib> hi
[14:03] <geekbri> Anybody here using a Lenovo thinkpad 420 and ubuntu 12.04? I am getting some really weird flickering that random comes and goes.  Wondering if anybody would have tips as to what causes it or how to stop it
[14:04] <Saiki> !dpkg
[14:05] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: i have one.  what are you using for your graphics card?
[14:05] <Lost_Cause> and what drivers are you using
[14:05] <Saiki> how do you install a .deb file on a server?
[14:06] <lousygarua> Saiki, i think that something like `dpkg -i baboon.dev`
[14:06] <lousygarua> Saiki, check the `dpkg` command I guess
[14:06] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Just installed ubuntu 12.04 fresh.
[14:07] <gsr> nabil_: type 'man bsnes' for the manual.  but yeah, I don't see snespurify either.  apparently it comes bundled with bsnes, but I don't know how where it is. google should help
[14:07] <Saiki> lousygarua: been a while since I tried, that's all
[14:08] <usr13> Saiki: You should use the package manager.
[14:08] <usr13> Saiki: sudo apt-get install <package-name>
[14:08] <Koppis> Hey #ubuntu, is there a command that I can use to change the volume of the program currently in focus?
[14:09] <Lost_Cause> check at your bios for which graphics card you have turned on.  there are a few options to choose from depending on some options that you can get for the t420.  Mine had a nvidia graphics card.  I turned that on and used the nvidia drivers from their website.  i fixed most of my issues
[14:09] <usr13> Koppis: Volume control us normally done globally.
[14:09] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Cool, I may have to try that.  Are you using multiple monitors with it by any chance?
[14:09] <Saiki> usr13: I need an older version not supplied in apt-get
[14:10] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I suspect this is using the built in intel chip at the moment as I have not done anything to it yet.
[14:10] <usr13> Saiki: of ____________?
[14:10] <Saiki> I need tomcat5
[14:11] <nabil_> gsr: weird, the only tying i found in manual is snespurify-gtk
[14:11] <Saiki> usr13: tomcat 5.5.xx (5.5.28 is prefered)
[14:11] <Lost_Cause> ocassially.  if you use the drivers from nvidia then you have to use x server to set them up.  i have found it to be rather shakey though in terms of it working fully.  but on a clean install you should be fine
[14:11] <nabil_> gsr: when I tried it it went to downloading bsnes again
[14:11] <nabil_> then, nothing
[14:11] <nabil_> still can't find it
[14:11] <nabil_> weiiird!!!
[14:12] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: ya by default it is set up to use optimous or what/ever it is called which doesn't work fully in ubuntu
[14:12] <Saiki> urs13: the webapp I want to use doesn't work on tomcat6
[14:12] <usr13> Saiki: What webapp?
[14:13] <Saiki> usr13: it's for server controll. called iweb
[14:13] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yeah I just went into the bios.  It says it is using the Nvidia card.  Is that what you said you were doing?  Just using the binary drivers they provide on their website?
[14:14] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: ya that is what i do.
[14:14] <usr13> Saiki: Does it error out?
[14:14] <Saiki> usr13: yes
[14:14] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I'll give that a shot, thanks for the help
[14:14] <usr13> Saiki: Can you give exact error message?
[14:15] <Saiki> usr13: and no one I know knows how to fix it, and they've tried ALOT
[14:15] <Saiki> usr13: sure can, sec
[14:15] <usr13> Saiki: Are you  Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:15] <marlym> how do i know which programs are using internet connection?
[14:16] <Saiki> usr13: http://pastebin.com/r197qfqR
[14:16] <The_BROS> what is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[14:16] <Saiki> yes
[14:16] <ThinkT510> !best | The_BROS
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS  try gwget
[14:16] <The_BROS> !best | The_BROS
[14:16] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: hopefully it should work.  just remember to use twinview for multiple monitors
[14:17] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I was going to try to get 2 external monitors setup, one from the VGA port and one from the display port, I am not sure if that will work at all though :X
[14:17] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: thanks i'll look into twinview
[14:18] <usr13> Saiki: Line 3 says "...iweb.xml (Permission denied)"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS  it's pwget
[14:18] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: i haven't tried that yet i usaully just use the laptop screen and a monitor via vga
[14:18] <Saiki> usr13: chmodded to 777
[14:18] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yeah that is what I was doing, but we have some new employees coming and I was hoping to get it working with a second external.  Perhaps I'll leave that up to them to figure out :)
[14:18] <marlym> how do i know which programs are using internet connection?
[14:19] <smartboyhw> marlym: What do you mean?
[14:19] <usr13> "SEVERE: Error deploying web application directory iweb"
[14:20] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: for new employees i like leaving them with all the hardware and hanna montana linux on their box.
[14:20] <RedViper> Hello
[14:20] <Saiki> usr13: I'm aware of that..  nothing I tried could deploy it
[14:21] <caixa> how can i tweak powermizer settings its lagging compiz
[14:22] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Oh there is a Hanna Montana linux?  Well it looks like we have just discovered the "standard linux" distro for our company
[14:22] <marlym> smartboyhw: i want to see which program uses internet most
[14:22] <keeb> i can't seem to get audio working as a non-root user. has anyone ever had this problem?
[14:23] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
[14:23] <ThinkT510> keeb: alsamixer to the rescue
[14:23] <compdoc> keeb, no, but have to checked which groups root belongs to?
[14:23] <compdoc> to=you
[14:23] <geekbri> OH perfect!
[14:23] <ssnf> hello, is anyone using "awesome" windows manager? i need help with it
[14:24] <TheM4ch1n3> ssnf: what is windows manager ?
[14:24] <RedViper> I have a problem with Rhythmbox, I uninstalled it because at the time I was using Banshee and now when I tried to reinstall it this is the error that has come up: Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. And it wont install when I click ok. Could I use the terminal?
[14:24] <TheM4ch1n3> ssnf: oh, awesome WM
[14:24] <keeb> ssnf: i am using awesomewm
[14:24] <usr13> Saiki: dpkg -i reconfigure tomcat6
[14:24] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yikes, seems like following these directions http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html made my Thinkpad T420s show just a big white bar on the right side of my screen and everything else is black
[14:24] <keeb> ThinkT510: alsamixer shows everything turned on, and looks exactly the same for my normal user as it does for root
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[14:25] <ThinkT510> keeb: no MM's?
[14:25] <keeb> compdoc: root belongs to "audio" while my user does not, but i've read that this doesn't help things
[14:25] <keeb> ThinkT510: correct
[14:25] <Aitor> :l
[14:25] <keeb> compdoc: besides, i've added my user to the audio group and it didn't help
[14:25] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Give me a moment..
[14:25] <TheM4ch1n3> geekbri: and nVidia's FTP site has Thumbs.db files laying around ;)
[14:25] <compdoc> keeb, never know until you try. but once you add a group, you have to log out to take effect
[14:25] <marlym> smartboyhw: you don't know?
[14:26] <smartboyhw> No.
[14:26] <smartboyhw> !support | marlym
[14:26] <marlym> thanks
[14:26] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: does the gui work at all?  try rebooting it to see if it just needed to be restarted.  I know of two other ways to install it if their are still issues
[14:27] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: yeah it works now, but apparently running nvidia-xconfig as root totally nuked my xorg config :-P
[14:27] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: things I haven't missed, mucking around in an xorg conf
[14:27] <Saiki> usr13: see pm lazy to use pastebin atm)
[14:28] <TJ-> keeb: Did you investigate  deleting the pulseaudio config files in the ~/.pulse/*default-{sink,source}
[14:28] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: just use x server to create a new x org file
[14:28] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: There -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134351/
[14:28] <savio> is ubuntu great
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: thanks
[14:28] <TJ-> keeb: also, have you tested it by creating a new user account and trying from that?
[14:28] <emman> is there anyway to termporarily disable the touchpad on my notebook?
[14:28] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: saving in that program allows you to overwrite prevous configs for it
[14:28] <savio> i think it is too great
[14:28] <cha1tanya> hi i am facing this error while updating software
[14:28] <cha1tanya> E: Internal Error, No file name for libkrb5-3
[14:28] <cha1tanya> E: libkrb5-3: libkrb5-3:amd64 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.2 cannot be configured because libkrb5-3
[14:28] <cha1tanya> E: libgssapi-krb5-2: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: so no mention of missing GPG keys?
[14:29] <savio> why server use RED HAT
[14:29] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: So what now
[14:29] <savio> why not ubuntu server edition
[14:29] <cha1tanya> please help
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> savio: can you rephrase the question please?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> savio: could use either, both are good
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: so no mention of missing GPG keys?
[14:30] <savio> business use RED HAT
[14:30] <savio> why not ubuntu
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> savio: they like the support structure
[14:30] <savio> ActionParsnip: what? i don't get you
[14:31] <cha1tanya> how to repair broken software index?
[14:31] <Lost_Cause> savio: red hat also cost money and is geared towards business with their support for enterprises like action said and they also tend to use older drivers and software that is a little more mature. ie they still use gnome 2
[14:31] <TJ-> cha1tanya: there's a newer version of  libkrb5-3 in the precise-updates/precise-security archives. Try doing "sudo apt-get update" first
[14:32] <savio> Lost_Cause: Ubuntu server edition is also good
[14:32] <keeb> TJ-: didn't try that at all, will do that now
[14:32] <cha1tanya> TJ-, i did that
[14:32] <Saiki> usr13: description The requested resource (/iweb/role) is not available.
[14:32] <Saiki> Apache Tomcat/5.5
[14:32] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Ok well it looks like it is installing now after I did the update...?
[14:32] <TJ-> keeb: often, a clean user account will resolve many issues like this... then again!
[14:32] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: It's done
[14:32] <savio> Lost_Cause: we should there stratergie of using older "mature" package
[14:33] <TJ-> cha1tanya: OK ... did you try "sudo apt-get -f install"  ?
[14:33] <raul_> hi
[14:33] <Saiki> usr13: on tomcat6 it doesn't even appear
[14:33] <nacii4> hejka :)
[14:33] <keeb> TJ-: how do i remove a user from a group?
[14:33] <usr13> Saiki: sudo apt-get install tomcat6
[14:33] <keeb> it appears me last usermod to remove myself from audio was not successful
[14:34] <iffy> Hello, I want to use the 'dd' command to zero out the first 80 MB of my hard disk
[14:34] <Lost_Cause> savio: redhat is really only ment to use for large business
[14:34] <TJ-> keeb: "deluser <user> <group>"
[14:34] <iffy> Can someone help me put the command together?
[14:34] <usr13> Saiki: How did you install iweb?
[14:34] <TJ-> keeb: You have to logout for group changes to be effective
[14:34] <cha1tanya> TJ-, http://pastie.org/4406126
[14:34] <Saiki> usr13: copy/paste
[14:34] <keeb> TJ-: yep, no problem there
[14:34] <savio> Lost_Cause: using older package must be bad idea
[14:35] <savio> Lost_Cause: old package conatin bug
[14:35] <savio> Lost_Cause: may be
[14:35] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Thnaks for the help! :D
[14:35] <RedViper> :-(|)
[14:35] <keeb> TJ-: says "you may not remove a user from their primary group"
[14:36] <Lost_Cause> savio: sometimes.  by old i mean that they use things like gnome 2.  which is more widley support and not as experimental as gnome 3 or unity.  they aren't on the bleeding edge of software but they still keep up to date with patches.
[14:36] <TJ-> keeb: It's correct!
[14:36] <keeb> TJ-: but the audio group was usermod'd in
[14:37] <TJ-> cha1tanya: It says the problem: "libkrb5-3:i386 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 cannot be configured because libkrb5-3:amd64 is in a different version (1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.2)"
[14:37] <keeb> so when i try to deluser audio keeb
[14:37] <TJ-> cha1tanya: You could try "sudo apt-get install libkrb5-3:amd64"
[14:37] <keeb> how do i make audio my non-primary group?
[14:37] <savio> Lost_Cause: ok
[14:37] <Saiki> usr13: http://pastebin.com/cjeF0CD3  <tomcat 5.5.26
[14:37] <TJ-> keeb: it's "deluser <user> <group>"
[14:38] <keeb> TJ-: yeah, same thing
[14:38] <TJ-> keeb hang on I'm telling you wrong!
[14:38] <Saiki> usr13: http://pastebin.com/amYFsS2P  <tomcat6
[14:38] <keeb> =]
[14:38] <TJ-> keeb: too many hours without sleep!
[14:38] <Lost_Cause> savio: red is mainly design to work on ibm servers and usually have a 10 year lifecycle.  ubuntu does work on ibm with some tweeking but they don't provide support for nearly that long.
[14:38] <cha1tanya> TJ-, it is not installing
[14:39] <cha1tanya> same error
[14:39] <savio> Lost_Cause: I think it is main reason
[14:39] <TJ-> keeb: Correction! No, I was correct. I just misread the man-page just now! deluser <user> <group> removes <user> from <group>
[14:39] <TJ-> cha1tanya: let me research that
[14:40] <keeb> TJ-: how do you change the primary group a user is in
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> cha1tanya: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:42] <TJ-> keeb: usermod -g <newgroup> <user>
[14:42] <Saiki> usr13: any ideas?
[14:43] <savio> Lost_Cause: what about Mac OSX
[14:44] <savio> Lost_Cause: i heard that MAc OSX grant POSIX specifcation
[14:44] <cha1tanya> TJ-, #aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver worked
[14:44] <cha1tanya> thanks btw
[14:44] <TJ-> cha1tanya: Great! :)
[14:45] <mneptok> savio: Windows NT was POSIX1-compliant. BeOS was POSIX-compliant. POSIX compliance tells you nothing, really.
[14:46] <keeb> TJ-: after removing myself from the audio group, now alsamixer / aplay do not work
[14:46] <raul_> exit
[14:46] <keeb> maybe there's like a pulseaudio group or something?
[14:46] <raul_> q
[14:46] <keeb> raul_: /q
[14:46] <raul_> lol
[14:46] <keeb> :D
[14:47] <TJ-> keeb: create a new user account and see what the default groups are for that
[14:47] <keeb> TJ-: just useradd -m ?
[14:47] <Treaver> Hello my computer froze and I powered it off manually now the Menu bar and the sidebar is gone?
[14:47] <TJ-> keeb: your account also needs to have sudo rights so should be in the adm and/or admin groups too
[14:47] <keeb> yep, all of those are there
[14:47] <mneptok> Treaver: log out and back in and see if they reappear
[14:47] <keeb> keeb : adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin keeb sambashare
[14:47] <Treaver> mneptok I can't logout there is no top bar
[14:48] <TJ-> keeb: no, use adduser
[14:48] <mneptok> Treaver: alt-prntscrn-k
[14:48] <Lost_Cause> savio: POSIX doesn't matter too much. most linux distros aren't 100% compliant
[14:48] <Treaver> kk
[14:48] <TJ-> keeb: The only extra one I have here from that list, is libvirtd
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Lost_Cause: its gotta be pretty tuff
[14:49] <keeb> TJ-: using adduser, the user only has 1 group membership: his own
[14:49] <keeb> (so user test is in group test) - speaker-test doesn't work
[14:49] <keeb> alsamixer also doesn't work
[14:50] <usr13> Saiki: If I could stay off the phone.... been looking but found nothing.  iweb is not really supplied or supported by ubuntu so that is the first problem... I think that with the abundance of CMS sites, wisiwig editors have not been a big concern as of late.  I use joomla a lot, others use drupal, etc....
[14:50] <keeb> i've removed and reinstalled alsa-base as well as pulseaudio
[14:50] <Lost_Cause> ActionParsnip: ya i am done.
[14:50] <keeb> this is an old install, it would probably work if i reinstalled
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Lost_Cause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#Fully_POSIX-compliant
[14:50] <keeb> i did a 3 hour upgrade last night to 12.04
[14:50] <en1gma> does ubuntu 12.04 amd64 have native support for linksys wusb600n v2 usb wifi adapter?
[14:51] <en1gma> i see dmesg finds it when i plug it in but it dont show with sudo ifconfig
[14:51] <Pip__> 12.04 32 bit is only seeing 2.7 gb out of 3 gb RAM, any idea what's happening there?  I have a discrete
[14:51] <TJ-> keeb: Can you use the GUI to create a new user... maybe it does something extra. adduser is the Debian higher-level version of useradd
[14:51] <Pip__> graphics card
[14:51] <David23400> is themes forr ubuntu compatible with lubuntu?
[14:52] <usr13> Saiki: That's just the trend, and it may be a good thing.  I think CMSs have their shortcomings and limitations, but they are improving as we speak.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Pip__: if you use onboard video, it will use some of your system ram
[14:52] <geekbri> with ubuntu 12.04 is there a way to generate an xorg.conf from the current running Xorg session?  It seems it no longer requires a xorg.conf to run, but I need to specify which display driver it should be using.
[14:52] <Pip__> discrete card in there, that's what's freaking me out
[14:52] <chreekat> I'm unable to boot a liveusb created with 'startup disk creator' and ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso. I doublechecked the md5sum, and I tried the 'check disks' option of the usb's boot menu. No dice.
[14:52] <chreekat> The error is along the lines of 'unable to mount /dev/loop1 on /cow: invalid argument'
[14:53] <Pip__> nvidia 8400gs
[14:53] <TJ-> Pip__: on 32 bit the address space below 4GB is used to PCI IOMEM mapping. That can often require more than 1GB so it would prevent the full 3GB of physical RAM being mapped
[14:53] <chreekat> Anything else I can do do check the usb stick, or otherwise figure out what might be wrong?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Pip__: ahh, so you have a switchable video chip?
[14:53] <usr13> Saiki: There may be a way to get iweb to run on Ubuntu, but it's just going to take some tinkering.  I dono....
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> chreekat: are you trying to mount an ISO?
[14:53] <Pip__> ActionParsnip; no i don't think so
[14:53] <Pip__> tis a fairly old amd cpu
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Pip__: if you run:  lspci | grep -i vga    what is output?
[14:54] <chreekat> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to boot from a live usb stick
[14:54] <AdvoWork> How can I change a folder with permissions drwxrwsrwx to: drwxrwxrwx ?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> chreekat: ok, did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:54] <chreekat> ActionParsnip: Yes
[14:54] <Pip__> TJ; that would make sense if i understood what it means, but it does help a little
[14:54] <chreekat> ActionParsnip: tbh I think it's my usb stick, but not having another one handy, I'd like to find a way to make sure
[14:55] <usr13> chreekat: Did you verify it?
[14:55] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: is saving to to config in x server when you are on the xdisplay screen not working?
[14:55] <TJ-> Pip__: something else needs the memory addresses so RAM is not mapped into them, so you lose some of the 3GB of physical capacity
[14:55] <Pip__> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2)
[14:55] <chreekat> usr13: verify the iso, as in check the md5 sum? Yes.
[14:55] <usr13> ok
[14:55] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Not sure I folllow what you mean.  I was just trying to save myself the trouble of typing out the whole xorg.conf by hand. I was hoping there was a way to say "Take whatever you have set now and dump it to a file"
[14:55] <Pip__> TJ; yeah okay...
[14:56] <usr13> chreekat: And it's just not booting?
[14:56] <keeb> geekbri: do you have an ATI or an nvidia card?
[14:56] <geekbri> keeb: nvidia
[14:56] <usr13> chreekat: If so, it may be just that you need to change some CMOS settings on your PC
[14:56] <keeb> geekbri: sudo nvidia-settings -> save to X
[14:56] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | geekbri
[14:56] <chreekat> usr13: I get to the menu with options such as 'try ubuntu', 'install ubuntu', 'check disc'
[14:57] <usr13> chreekat: Oh, so it is booting?
[14:57] <Montyc> Hello! Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of upgrading mysql 5.5.24 to 5.5.27 on Ubuntu 12.4?
[14:57] <caixa> how do i open an executable  file in ubuntu ?
[14:57] <theadmin> usr13: Not necessarily, that's just the GRUB menu.
[14:57] <usr13> chreekat: ... but will not load up?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> David23400: you just need openbox and lxde themes
[14:57] <chreekat> usr13: When I select 'try' or 'install', it chugs for a bit, but then I get dropped to the ... busybox(?) shell, and the casper.log has a message about failure to mount a loop device
[14:57] <theadmin> caixa: chmod +x file.exec ; ./file.exec
[14:57] <spirit3_> caixa: just run it !
[14:57] <chreekat> usr13: Specifically /dev/loop1 on /cow
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: you can use:  sudo chmod -t folder   etc.
[14:58] <spirit3_> caixa: from gui, you need to make sure it has execute permissions
[14:58] <caixa> spirit3_, i did double click it, it doesnt do anything
[14:58] <usr13> chreekat: Sounds like bad media or bad iso.
[14:58] <Saiki> usr13: a different version works on 10.04
[14:58] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: in the x server program you can saving your current settings to an xorg file
[14:58] <chreekat> usr13: Agreed. Unfortunately the 'check disc' option of the boot menu shows no errors
[14:58] <spirit3_> caixa: right click, permissions, execute ... I think
[14:58] <caixa> spirit3_, permissions says read & write
[14:58] <chreekat> usr13: I was just wondering if there's other things I could check
[14:58] <spirit3_> caixa: need execute
[14:58] <usr13> chreekat: Do you have the md5sum? Can you show us?
[14:58] <caixa> spirit3_, execute is checked
[14:58] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U1OXPcwutvs/TuWxYESgVtI/AAAAAAAACnU/7PNoWKm6dPo/s1600/TwinView.png
[14:58] <deny26> caixa, try to run in terminal and see error message
[14:59] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: you should be able to just click on save and be done
[14:59] <chreekat> usr13: d791352694374f1c478779f7f4447a3f  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:59] <caixa> i think i need 32 bit libs
[14:59] <caixa> does ubuntu ship with those on x64
[14:59] <spirit3_> caixa: are you sure it's an executable?  If you right click and properties - should say what 'type' it is
[14:59] <caixa> spirit3_, yes, it says executable
[15:00] <TJ-> chreekat: that's a known bug, with a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/492301
[15:00] <spirit3_> caixa: from command name try 'file <filename>'
[15:00] <caixa> does ubuntu x64 comes with native x32 support?
[15:00] <theadmin> caixa: Nope. sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:00] <chreekat> TJ-: rad, i'll check it out
[15:00] <TJ-> chreekat: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick/#Known_Issues
[15:01] <usr13> chreekat: You might try re-burning the USB stick.  You might do memtest, (could be hardware issue)....
[15:01] <chreekat> TJ-: Thanks, that's exactly what I was hoping to find by asking questions here.
[15:01] <caixa> theadmin, thanks i think that might be the problem then as the application only supports x32
[15:01] <TJ-> chreekat: it's an issue with the size of the persistent storage that usbcreator uses... it gets it slightly wrong in some cases, apparently
[15:01] <Pip__> thanks guys ttfn :)
[15:01] <marlym> how do i install another language?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> marlym  they're called language packages, in the repos
[15:03] <usr13> chreekat: aaahh yes, "re-tried the process by creating a LiveUSB... The usb stick now boots up fine."
[15:03] <marlym> monkeydust: is there any package only for one language
[15:03] <prcIII> can someone tell me how to edit my host file so that a site at location localhost/school/school/magento is mapped to local.school.com
[15:04] <ThinkT510> !hostname | prcIII
[15:04] <spirit3_> prcIII: host file maps names to IP addresses
[15:04] <Saiki> usr13: works fine on 10.04.3 LTS
[15:04] <chreekat> usr13: TJ-: Thanks folks, looks like I'm on my way now
[15:04] <theadmin> marlym: sudo apt-get install language-pack-de-lc (where "de" is your desktop environment ("kde" or "gnome". If none of those, just omit it), and "lc" is your language code.) So, the Russian pack for KDE is language-pack-kde-ru
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> marlym  look for the language name in the software center or in synaptic
[15:04] <usr13> prcIII: Sure, just add a line:  192.168.x.x    <host-name>
[15:04] <Montyc> Can anyone point me in the right direction of upgrading mysql 5.5.24 to 5.5.27 on Ubuntu 12.4?
[15:05] <theadmin> marlym: For, say, XFCE it'd be simply language-pack-ru
[15:05] <prcIII> how do i choose a local ip for it
[15:05] <usr13> prcIII:
[15:05] <TJ-> Montyc: 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is the latest in the Ubuntu archive
[15:06] <Malthus> Hello I'm trying to rebuild the network manager package, it gets threw ./configure but when I try to make it errors out: http://pastebin.com/L7QTAgZs
[15:06] <marlym> thanks guys
[15:06] <usr13> prcIII: You'll need to set the target PC to static IP.  (Otherwise make changes to router's config.)
[15:07] <usr13> prcIII: To choose an IP, find one outside the dhcp-pool that is not yet being used.
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Please go to tmr's Ubuntu QA Meeting at 1400UTC in #ubuntu-testing.
[15:07] <TJ-> Malthus: Where did the source-code come from?
[15:07] <Montyc> Does that mean that I can't upgrade it?
[15:07] <Malthus> I used apt-source to fetch it
[15:08] <Malthus> TJ-: I used apt-source to fetch it
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Montyc
[15:08] <TJ-> Malthus: Good... when you build an Ubuntu package you should use "debian/rules build" then "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[15:08] <theadmin> Malthus: Well, do a "apt-get build-dep networkmanager" too
[15:09] <prcIII> so all this just to map http://localhost/school/magento to local.school.com
[15:09] <usr13> prcIII: To choose an IP, find one outside the dhcp-pool that is not yet being used. (Outside the dhcp-pool but yet still in the range of your LAN's netwrok).
[15:09] <TJ-> Malthus: and as theadmin says, make sure to have installed the build-dependencies
[15:09] <usr13> prcIII: On your local PC?
[15:09] <prcIII> 00yeah
[15:10] <usr13> prcIII: Ok, well, that will work too.
[15:10] <TJ-> Malthus: that gcc error though looks like some of the debian patches may not have been fully applied... it's trying to pass a const pointer
[15:10] <usr13> prcIII: ... only, you need to use the IP
[15:11] <prcIII> so do 192.168.1.123  http://local/school/magento then do http://local/school/magento  local.school.com
[15:11] <cherva> Why is ssh -R "10.10.0.1:62336:localhost:80" root@10.10.0.1 not working .... I have GatewayPorts yes in sshd_config on 10.10.0.1
[15:11] <prcIII> ??
[15:12] <Malthus> tj-: apt wants 64 MB of packages downloaded from that build0dep command, I may have been missing a few things
[15:12] <urlwolf> I boought this monitor http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/07/the-ips-lcd-revolution.html and it doesn't get detected with nouveau. What would be the best IRC channel to ask for debugging options (I tried nouveau)
[15:12] <Kus> Hi, I wanted to compress an avi file, but ffmpeg would not do it. What other programs can i try?
[15:12] <usr13> prcIII: 127.0.0.1
[15:13] <subz3r0> Kus, check doom9.org
[15:13] <prcIII> you know i think I want virtual hosts.  I have like 50 sites i need to do this to locally.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Kus: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/09/how-to-compress-avi-and-mp4-video-files.html
[15:14] <Treaver> Can someone help me by taking control of my computer and telling me what's wrong with it? :(
[15:14] <Treaver> I have teamviewer
[15:14] <Kus> ActionParsnip: i did try that comand, but it gave me errors
[15:14] <astanton> question: has anyone had any issues with compiling against libev on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: not wise
[15:14] <usr13> Treaver: What seems to be the problem?/
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> kuswhat errors?
[15:15] <Treaver> My top panel and left launcher is gone completely. I think it's called Unity
[15:15] <subz3r0> Treaver, unity --reset
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Treaver
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> ok, subz3r0 was faster :)
[15:15] <Treaver> I tried that sub
[15:15] <subz3r0> ;)
[15:15] <Treaver> It didn't do anything
[15:15] <subz3r0> relog..
[15:15] <Treaver> I did..
[15:15] <Treaver> 4+ times
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: tried the Unity2D session?
[15:16] <subz3r0> well, what have you dont that its not working anymore?
[15:16] <subz3r0> done
[15:16] <Treaver> I've logged into all of them when starting up
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Kus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25514/how-can-i-maximum-compress-video-files   what errors do you get?
[15:16] <Treaver> What happened my computer froze and I was in Ciaro Dock one and it just won't do anything now
[15:16] <caixa> error while loading shared libraries: libfmodex.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:17] <caixa> anyone know how to fix that
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !find libfmodex.so
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> Treaver  try this in a terminal    gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace
[15:17] <subz3r0> Treaver, you can try this. but make backups before: rm ~/.gconf ~/.gconfd ~/.metacity ~/.compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/dconf -rf
[15:17] <subz3r0> its one line...
[15:17] <Kus> ActionParsnip: Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.1 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> caixa: there is no package with: libfmodex in the name..
[15:18] <caixa> ActionParsnip, i think its part of the game folder, i see the file in a directory
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> caixa: i think I have somethig
[15:19] <Kus> ActionParsnip: hmm, after playing around with the bitrate it now compresses the file
[15:19] <subz3r0> Treaver or this solution to fix compiz: first ctrl + alt +f1 then login and dpkg-reconfigure compiz. after that go back with ctrl + alt +f7
[15:20] <subz3r0> Kus, your question isnt rly ubuntu related...
[15:20] <astanton> anyone have problems compiling against libev?
[15:21] <Malthus> tj-: reran ./configure, make clean, then make, it builds for a much longer time but still the same error
[15:22] <Munz> hi .. i just re-installed ubuntu and when i tried to update it i got this ... W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_restricted_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:22] <Munz> W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ae.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:22] <Munz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> caixa: what are you trying to install?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Munz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134432/
[15:23] <caixa> ActionParsnip, a game called zombiegrinder, i extracted it to my desktop and installed the 32bit libs, but it doesnt run, so i tried from terminal and it gave me that error
[15:24] <TJ-> Malthus: is it the networkmanager from precise? give me the version string
[15:25] <Malthus> tj-: um the folder it make when I extracted is called network-manager-0.9.4.0 I'm hoping thats what you need?
[15:26] <ls612> I would like to know how to safely remove Ubuntu and give back the HD space it occupys to Windows.
[15:26] <TJ-> Malthus: I'll build it here
[15:27] <TJ-> Malthus: as I said before, I think it is because you are not using the Debian build system
[15:27] <Treaver> Can you tell me how to do that compiz thing again
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Treaver   gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace
[15:27] <Treaver> Thanks
[15:29] <Malthus> tj-: googled: http://www.davromaniak.eu/index.php?post/2011/03/03/The-ultimate-package-building-system, Is this what I need to do to my system to get rid of build hiccups?
[15:29] <TJ-> Malthus: I've just issued this build command: "debian/rules build 2>&1 | tee ../build.log"
[15:31] <TJ-> Malthus: That article is doing a lot of silly things ... all you need to build in an isolated setting is to create a pbuilder
[15:31] <reasearcher123> All websites can open on my pc except a few one like www.facebook.com www.way2sms.com, www.tatasky.com etc. Please help.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> caixa: you may need to compile the file
[15:32] <TJ-> Malthus: I wrote an article on it a long time ago with some supporting scripts: https://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/Packages/CreatingPbuilderVariations
[15:32] <caixa> ActionParsnip, compile an executable?
[15:32] <caixa> ActionParsnip, seems a bit silly to have to compile a game
[15:32] <Munz> ActionParsnip : i got this now :W: GPG error: http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:32] <Munz> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:32] <Munz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:33] <Blazemore> caixa: Why? Someone has to do it
[15:33] <TJ-> Malthus: The build was successful here
[15:33] <caixa> Blazemore, why? because im use to windows double clicking things and simplicity, who the hell wants to read a bunch of documentation and compile a game?
[15:34] <usr13> caixa: Ubuntu is not MS Windows....
[15:34] <Blazemore> caixa: If you prefer Windows, use Windows, obviously
[15:35] <kurtwp_> I added another video card to my u12.04 system -  How can I tell if the system found the other card
[15:35] <Blazemore> lspci | grep vga
[15:35] <Blazemore> er... maybe not grep vga
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> grep VGA (upper case)
[15:35] <Malthus> tj-: roger, I'll try following your guide and see if I get lucky
[15:35] <Blazemore> take a look at lspci, or if you have the Catalyst Control Center installed, use that
[15:35] <Blazemore> Oh
[15:35] <usr13> caixa: Try installing a 32bit application on a MS Windows 64bit sysstem, see how you do with it.....
[15:36] <kurtwp_> -i vga work also
[15:36] <Blazemore> I have grep aliased to "grep -i" which suits my workflow, and I forget sometimes
[15:36] <caixa> Blazemore, so the game comes with an executable file, yet it requires compiling?
[15:36] <Blazemore> caixa: If it comes with an executable, it doesn't need compiling
[15:36] <TJ-> Malthus: You don't need that guide to build the package! That guide is for professional packagers who need to ensure there are no hidden dependencies
[15:36] <caixa> Blazemore, ok then... thats my point
[15:36] <kurtwp_> ah yes I see two - one NVIDA and the other ATI
[15:36] <caixa> Blazemore, ppl are either giving false info in this channel, or this is over complicated
[15:36] <Blazemore> caixa: You *could* compile the game if you wanted to, but you don't *have* to
[15:36] <TJ-> Malthus: All you need to do to build any Ubuntu/Debian package is : "debian/rules build"  then "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[15:37] <Blazemore> caixa: Do you use VLC on Windows?
[15:37] <TJ-> Malthus: The 'binary' operation will leave the .deb files in the parent directory of the package-directory
[15:37] <j|> caixa: that's been a problem in every medium of human communication since the beginning of recorded history as far as I'm aware.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> caixa  correct, we *love* to give false information and do it on purpose, but only because it is you
[15:37] <Blazemore> caixa: Because you *could* compile that if you wanted to
[15:38] <Blazemore> caixa: Nobody will knowingly give false information, and everyone here is a community member just like you.
[15:39] <Malthus> tj-: make: *** [binary] Error 29 ?
[15:39] <TJ-> Malthus: Did you do a "make clean" first?
[15:39] <caixa> MonkeyDust, youre an idiot
[15:40] <usr13> caixa: There are two options: 1) Someone that knows how could do it for you.  Or 2) You could figure out how and do it yourself.
[15:40] <caixa> usr13, well option 1 doesnt seem likely here ;) so i guess its option 2
[15:40] <usr13> caixa: but calling someone an idiot is not an option
[15:40] <caixa> being told to compile executables lol
[15:40] <usr13> caixa: Your choice ....
[15:40] <TJ-> Malthus: I suggest you start again. Move to the parent directory, do "rm -rf network-manager-0.9.4.0" then "dpkg-source -x network-manager_0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.1.dsc" then "cd network-manager-0.9.4.0" then "debian/rules build" then "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[15:41] <Malthus> tj-: will try that in a second - its doing alot of "stuff"
[15:43] <Malthus> tj-: it built but I'm sure I saw about 6-7 warnings during that process - probably better to start over right?
[15:43] <TJ-> Malthus: well warnings are usually OK ... though it is good practice to capture the build log and review it just in case
[15:44] <Malthus> tj-: like you did in that script where you tee'd the log, I think I'm starting to follow the plot
[15:45] <sambagirl> test
[15:45] <narcos> Is it possible within dhcpd.conf to specify certain leases based on the source IP of the request, and in a different range to the interface DHCP listens on? e.g. A DHCP request comes from "192.168.42.2" so please hand out a lease in the range "10.2.0.x".
[15:46] <ThinkT510> !test | sambagirl
[15:46] <narcos> !test | ThinkT510
[15:46] <narcos> Oops
[15:46] <narcos> I meant to say:
[15:46] <narcos> !test | ubottu
[15:47] <narcos> Ah, he won't get stuck in a loop :)
[15:48] <UKWolfy> are there any themes for unity that look just like Ambiance  but with blue writing in the top menu bar and with blue icons  (user name, time, mail icons) and with scroll bar and things like Destroy Twitter? http://static.inky.ws/image/2535/image.jpg
[15:48] <thresh> hi, who do I bug about screenshots.debian.net ?
[15:49] <ThinkT510> thresh: i don't see what that has to do with #ubuntu
[15:49] <daniel2> I'm experiencing a HUD freeze in 12.04 i open rythmthbox music player then tried to open the music lens and my system has frozen the music is playing and mouse move but the rest of the screen is frozen! has anyone else had this issue or point can point me in the direction of a fix?
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Bye!
[15:50] <UKWolfy> daniel2: I've had that issue as well, i never really did anything about it and it's seemed to have solved itself
[15:51] <daniel2> I have to hold the power button to restart/boot the computer! all keyboard inputs don;t work
[15:51] <usr13> Bug #839319
[15:51] <daniel2> UKWolfy: i have only just installed it and have done the all updates!! I do hope this goes away
[15:52] <UKWolfy> Hopefully daniel2, like i said I never did anything about it and i never get that problem anymore
[15:53] <daniel2> ubottu: what can i do to fix?
[15:54] <daniel2> shall i do a reset via power button and try updating again
[15:54] <guest_6845> ubottu: you suck!
[15:57] <Dynamit> does any one know if something popular thing that are updated and are hosted by github.com? I wounder because the download time is so slow
[15:57] <Dynamit> o bad English grammatic
[16:01] <joe_Vitel> Does anyone have any experience setting up Ubuntu with MAAS? I'm having some weird time issues when trying to add nodes.
[16:02] <Pici> joe_Vitel: The folks in #ubuntu-server might be of some help
[16:02] <joe_Vitel> Pici: Thanks much.
[16:03] <diminoten> what's maas
[16:03] <systemd0wn> Question. I'm installing a mainline kernel as recomended by a bugreport. I see "Possible missing firmware", and "errors were encountered while processing: linux-headers-3.6.0-999-generic"
[16:03] <TJ-> systemd0wn: do you have a log of the installation run?
[16:03] <Blazemore> systemd0wn: have you tried sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[16:04] <Malthus> tj-: built fresh like you said to and it was much much cleaner this time; last question if I could, if I need to recompile the package against a library how do I wedge that in?
[16:05] <systemd0wn> TJ-, where would those logs be?
[16:05] <systemd0wn> Blazemore, no i haven't.
[16:06] <TJ-> Malthus: Against a library that isn't already a dependency of the package (which is defined in debian/control on the source "build-depends:" line
[16:07] <TJ-> Malthus: systemd0wn I meant had you captured the messages from running dpkg -i ? I usually tee the command output to a log file. e.g. "sudo dpkg -i <package list> 2>&1 | tee install.log"
[16:07] <systemd0wn> TJ-, I will do that and patebin it.
[16:10] <tking> hi guys how do i update just 1 software not all (i want to update gcc compiler)
[16:10] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get install packagename
[16:10] <Blazemore> that will update it if there is an update available
[16:11] <Blazemore> Or use synaptic package manager, where you can see what packages can be updated, but select which ones to upgrade
[16:11] <tking> ok
[16:11] <Malthus> tj-: I see, it looks like you have set me up for success I can't thank you enough
[16:11] <tking> packagename --version
[16:11] <tking> gives version right?
[16:12] <arabi> hello guys
[16:12] <arabi> i am new to linux and i need help in configuring java compiler
[16:12] <arabi> nyone out there to help me plz
[16:13] <Blazemore> tking: No. To check what version of a package is installed, you use "apt-cache show packagename"
[16:13] <Blazemore> If you just want the version info without the description and such, use "apt-cache policy" instead of "apt-cache show"
[16:13] <arabi> I have installed java jdk tar.gz but how to configure it to run from terminal ???
[16:14] <yashas> help
[16:14] <Blazemore> arabi: Is there a reason you didn't install it from the repositories, or did you not know you could?
[16:14] <Blazemore> yashas: what?
[16:14] <arabi> i just followed what i did on windows
[16:14] <arabi> i downloaded the package from the oracle.com
[16:15] <Blazemore> arabi: Don't worry it's way simpler
[16:15] <Blazemore> On Linux, most programs come in the package manager so you don't need to
[16:15] <yashas> how to register on freenode?
[16:15] <llutz> !register
[16:15] <Blazemore> arabi: run the command "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk" to install the latest Java compiler
[16:16] <arabi> /home/arabi/Programs/jdk1.7.0_05     << now i have this on my system
[16:16] <yashas> ubottu: thanks man
[16:16] <Blazemore> Or search for JDK in the Ubuntu Software Centre
[16:16] <arabi> can  i do anything with this
[16:16] <arabi> ?
[16:16] <Blazemore> arabi: Stop doing what you are doing, and install it from the package manager
[16:16] <systemd0wn> TJ-, It crashed while i was trying to get everything pasted into pastebin.
[16:16] <Blazemore> Installing from Oracle's download is unnecessary
[16:17] <arabi> but i already done that
[16:17] <Blazemore> What did you install?
[16:17] <systemd0wn> TJ-, Blazemore, I did try to 'apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree" and I see a unmet dependency "linux-headers-3.6.0-999-generic : Depends: linux-headers-3.6.0-999 but not installable"
[16:17] <Blazemore> You are looking for a java compiler, right? the "javac" command? Or are you just looking for the "java" command to run Java programs?
[16:17] <Blazemore> systemd0wn: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:18] <Blazemore> systemd0wn: No other arguments, just that
[16:18] <systemd0wn> Blazemore, it's removing the linux headers. is that ok?
[16:18] <Blazemore> arabi: What happens when you try to run the "javac" command, and how does it differ from what you are expecting should happen?
[16:19] <arabi> (jdk-7u5-linux-i586.tar.gz )   after downloading this  used this command (tar zxvf jdk-7u5-linux-i586.tar.gz^C
[16:19] <arabi> )
[16:19] <Blazemore> arabi: Listen to me and do as I advise you to do
[16:19] <arabi> tar zxvf jdk-7u5-linux-i586.tar.gz  << this command i used
[16:20] <arabi> Blaze now i have a directory as i have in wndows
[16:20] <Blazemore> arabi: Open a terminal and type the following (without the quotes): "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk"
[16:20] <arabi> can i add it to the terminal to run the javac from there
[16:20] <Blazemore> Is there an op here? I don't think arabi can see my messages
[16:21] <Pici> Blazemore: theres nothing stopping him from seeing your messages, it just looks like hes selectively ignoring your suggestions.
[16:21] <DJones> Blazemore: the only reason he wouldn't see them is if he had you on ignore
[16:21] <Blazemore> Pici: I know, I was being sarcastic
[16:21] <Pici> arabi: please take a look at Blazemore's suggestions.
[16:21] <arabi> Reading package lists... Done
[16:21] <arabi> Building dependency tree
[16:21] <arabi> Reading state information... Done
[16:21] <arabi> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-7
[16:21] <arabi> E: Unable to locate package jdk
[16:21] <arabi>   @ blaze
[16:21] <FloodBot1> arabi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <Blazemore> arabi: running the command "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk" will download and install the software
[16:22] <^Mike> When should we expect 12.04.01?
[16:22] <arabi> sorry flood bot
[16:22] <Blazemore> Don't forget the second hyphen, you must have typed "openjdk-7 jdk" instead of "openjdk-7-jdk"
[16:22] <arabi> oh lemme try again
[16:22] <Blazemore> arabi: What you just accidentally tried to do was install two different packages, "openjdk-7" and "jdk", neither of which exist, which is why you got an error
[16:23] <arabi> thanks blace
[16:23] <arabi> sorry
[16:23] <arabi> thanks blaze
[16:23] <Blazemore> Is it doing it?
[16:23] <arabi> yes
[16:23] <arabi> it is downloading now ...
[16:24] <arabi> is it same as oracle jdk ??? @ blaze
[16:24] <Blazemore> Great. when it's done you will be able to use the "java", "javac" etc commands as you would expect them to work
[16:24] <Blazemore> arabi: No it is openjdk which is an implementation of the same standard
[16:25] <Blazemore> It's the "official" Java reference implementation
[16:25] <arabi> no need of extra configuration ,right??? can i run javac from terminal without ding anything more?
[16:25] <Blazemore> arabi: Yes that's right
[16:26] <Blazemore> arabi: Always check the package manager (Software Centre on Ubuntu) first, there's usually no need to go to a developer's website unless you need a version which isn't available in the Ubuntu repositories
[16:26] <Blazemore> I gtg
[16:26] <arabi> blaze i wanted to know how to install C++ compiler also,can you help??
[16:26] <Blazemore> arabi: sudo apt-get install build-essential is always a good start
[16:27] <arabi> what is that??
[16:27] <arabi> build essential???
[16:27] <Blazemore> build-essential is a "meta package" which will install lots of things useful for software development
[16:27] <Blazemore> don't forget the hyphen, "build-essential" not "build essential"
[16:27] <arabi> ok
[16:27] <caixa> !find .sh
[16:27] <arabi> is it include java and c++ ?
[16:28] <Blazemore> And one of the packages provided by build-essential is g++
[16:28] <Blazemore> http://packages.debian.org/sid/build-essential
[16:28] <ThinkT510> !info build-essential
[16:28] <arabi> gnu c++ = g++ right?? like gcc
[16:28] <Blazemore> arabi: It includes a C++ compiler, but not Java. You already installed that with the openjdk-7-jdk package
[16:28] <ssta> arabi: c++ yes, java no
[16:28] <Blazemore> arabi: Yes, g++ is the Gnu C++ compiler
[16:28] <Blazemore> I really have to go
[16:29] <Blazemore> Good luck with whatever you're developing arabi
[16:29] <arabi> ok blaze
[16:29] <arabi> thanks for helping
[16:29] <arabi> :)
[16:33] <dustinspringman> anyone know how to get netflix to run on ubuntu browser(s) chrome and ffox?
[16:33] <centrelink> dustinspringman: impossible
[16:33] <Kanerix> as I understand it, you can't
[16:33] <Kanerix> netflix requires silverlight
[16:33] <TJ-> dustinspringman: The best recommendation I've seen is to install Windows in a virtual machine
[16:34] <Kanerix> which includes built-in encryption
[16:34] <Kanerix> yep
[16:40] <dustinspringman> lame... i don't want windows... what about some sort of Android app emulated on ubuntu?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| dustinspringman
[16:41] <morphis> olli: ping
[16:42] <yashas> how to exit from freenode
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> yashas  type /quit
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: you could virtualize the Windows OS and run it there...
[16:43] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: thanks,. i'd prefer to stay windowsless
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> dustinspringman  in short: there is no ubuntu solution, yet
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: its a netflix thing, blame them
[16:44] <TJ-> It's an MPAA thing... they threatened LoveFilm over it too... they had to swap from Flash to Silverlight... gaining the ire of many Linux and Mac users
[16:44] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: yea, i am familiar with the whole encyption nonsense... as if that stops any of us ... XD
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> it's the war of the os's
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: have you tried miro?
[16:45] <arabi> my system configuration : Amd Sempron 2 GHz, 3GB RAM , 120 GB HDD and NVidia Geforce 8200 G M dispaly <<<<< i can't run unity smooth :( ... is there any solution :(??
[16:45] <dustinspringman> dont they understand that they are exemplifying our disdain with Microsoft with these futile attempts to force people to use their software "or be without the apps we love".... just dumb...
[16:45] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: miro huh.. whats that?
[16:46] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: getmiro.com yea?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> !info miro
[16:47] <arabi> my system configuration : Amd Sempron 2 GHz, 3GB RAM , 120 GB HDD and NVidia Geforce 8200 G M dispaly <<<<<12.04 crashes and crashes .. how can i reify this..plz help
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: yes the getmiro site will do it
[16:47] <netforce_> clear
[16:47] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: hmm so, how would this let me watch netflix?
[16:48] <r3dnecksec> Hi.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> netflix doesn't support linux , dustinspringman , that's a fact
[16:49] <r3dnecksec> I am trying to troubleshoot a postfix server on ubuntu 10.04. It is not relaying mail to our Exchange server. Were can I see a log to troubleshoot the issue in postfix?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: no, its just an alternative
[16:50] <smw> Hi all. I am having problems with networking. I have a router where at first everything worked. Both ethernet and wifi. Then wifi stopped working and not ethernet has stopped working.  When I boot into windows, everything works perfectly. When I connect to the wifi of a neighbour it works. Here is the syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134570/
[16:50] <kurtis> Hey guys, any ideas on why I have to eval `ssh-agent` everytime I log into my server? (I'm using SSH Keys for Git)
[16:50] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: ahh.. rgr.
[16:51] <kurtis> I've never had this problem on any other Ubuntu machine including other servers from the same provider (Rackspace Cloud)
[16:52] <Aitor> how to install minecraft in ubuntu?
[16:52] <coolman_bg> hello guys
[16:52] <coolman_bg> i need some help
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Aitor: client or server?
[16:52] <Aitor> client
[16:52] <systemd0wn> Question, During boot I can't see the grub menu. I've changed grub_hidden_timout=false and now I can see the countdown timer but I don't see a list of entries to choose from?
[16:52] <coolman_bg> about configuration of git repositorio
[16:53] <TJ-> smw: it looks as if the network's DHCP server is dead: "<warn> (eth0): DHCPv4 request timed out"
[16:53] <arabi> how to install gnome classic on precise???
[16:53] <subz3r0> install the gnome shell
[16:53] <arabi> no need of gnome shell
[16:53] <coolman_bg> help me please
[16:53] <smw> TJ-, but it isn't.
[16:53] <nova> susi
[16:53] <arabi> i need only classic plz
[16:53] <TJ-> systemd0wn: Hold down the Shift key as soon as BIOS hands over to GRUB
[16:54] <smw> TJ-, windows works
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> arabi: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[16:54] <subz3r0> gnome classic (fallback) is part of the gnome shell...
[16:54] <Aitor> ActionParnsip..
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Aitor: http://ubuntuguide.net/minecraft-installer-script-install-minecraft-in-ubuntu-completely-with-one-click
[16:54] <Aitor> Thanks.
[16:54] <TJ-> smw: As far as the Ubuntu side is concerned, it is. have you recently added firewall rules?
[16:54] <xyzzymaze> hello all ... any ideas why precise is not reading /etc/hosts when I ssh in to it from another client? who command always just shows the i.p. address even though it is in /etc/hosts thx.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Aitor: make sure you install java first
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Aitor: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[16:55] <coolman_bg> i need install git on ubuntu server i have ubuntu server 12.04
[16:55] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: neg, i've got an account w/ netflix that I use on my xoom , wii, and dvd player.. would like to use it on my laptops as well.. miro looks like just a movie player?
[16:55] <systemd0wn> TJ-, OMG. Thanks. Is this your job? You help people in #ubuntu all day?
[16:55] <coolman_bg> and i can't make ssh-key gen :(
[16:55] <dustinspringman> ActionParsnip: I did find an Android SDK emulator.. anyone know if that would work with the Netflix Android app?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: worth a try
[16:56] <TJ-> systemd0wn: no! just hanging around avoiding sleep :p
[16:56] <W4sp> dustinspringman: Phascinating constraints. Never done it bout if you get a chance to evaluate ... Eclipse IDE with Android or BlackBerry plus simulator, then 'somehow' get the Netflix app into the simulator. Just a thought.
[16:56] <systemd0wn> TJ-, great. The less sleep you get the more problems I get fixed. haha.
[16:57] <TJ-> systemd0wn: Don't make a habit of it!
[16:57] <systemd0wn> haha
[16:57] <smw_> TJ-, well... setting my IP manually works :-\
[16:57] <BluesKaj> coolman_bg, http://tumblr.intranation.com/post/766290565/how-set-up-your-own-private-git-server-linux
[16:58] <coolman_bg> hello guys i need little help abaout git configuration pls help me :)
[16:58] <BluesKaj> coolman_bg, read above
[16:59] <dustinspringman> W4sp: that is what I am thinking.. softpedia has a petty good tut on getting the sdk emulator installed.. also even show how to make a prog link directly without having to start the android app first.. might do the trick
[16:59] <Freeaqingme> I installed a .deb file while explicitly ignoring its dependencies, since the package didn't need them (it all works just fine). However, now I run apt-get and it tries to retrieve those dependencies any way. Is there any way to disable that and set the package as installed succesfully?
[17:00] <ubuntu-g4> Hello everybody , I am a newer , Please give me convenience in the future.
[17:00] <ubuntu-g4> Thanks.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: there is a guy ranting about ubuntu and he works out how to hack dpkg to ignore it
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: he he uses wine though
[17:01] <Freeaqingme> ActionParsnip, so currently there's no obscure dpkg option available that does just that?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: not that I know of
[17:01] <coolman_bg> BluesKaj:10x i will try it :)
[17:03] <Freeaqingme> ActionParsnip, too bad. tnx ;)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQMqQxf-Ik
[17:03] <coolman_bg> BluesKaj:but this is only for linux clients i need for windows clients
[17:04] <Freeaqingme> ActionParsnip, you're right, it's a rant. a useless one I take it.. :P
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: but it shows how to tweak the packages ;)
[17:05] <Freeaqingme> ActionParsnip, guess that's the only reason to watch it then
[17:05] <coolman_bg> BluesKaj:i mean i have linux for server git and windows clients for merge code
[17:05] <Freeaqingme> will tell you if I found something in 8 mins :)
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: when he starts prattling on about wine, start listening
[17:06] <TJ-> Freeaqingme: there's a way if you edit the package itself to change its listed dependencies
[17:06] <Freeaqingme> ActionParsnip, I'll survive the 8 minutes, it's a good laugh
[17:06] <OMGUBUNTU> Hey you all
[17:06] <TJ-> Freeaqingme: sede the last comment to this: http://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies
[17:06] <BluesKaj> coolman_bg, sorry i don't know how to help you with that
[17:07] <Freeaqingme> TJ-, it were .deb packages installed with dpkg, cant get apt-get to ignore them now
[17:08] <TJ-> Freeaqingme: if you edit the package and reinstall it using dpkg it will work
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Freeaqingme: yeah, I posted replies to most things he says to work around or cure the issue
[17:08] <Freeaqingme> TJ-, yeah, but I hate doing that. was hoping there was a better way
[17:08] <TJ-> Freeaqingme: it's the BEST way. If the package doesn't need the dependencies, it shouldn't say it does!
[17:08] <arabi> difference between compiler and interpreter ????
[17:09] <TJ-> arabi: compiler converts source code to object code and then binary executable. interpreter reads source code line by line and executes it as it goes
[17:09] <P4_> Hello
[17:11] <David23400> Hi guys, i have installed the wallpaper from this link http://namakutux.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-install-mac-os-x-lion-theme-on.html
[17:11] <David23400> but i dont know how to setup it on my lubuntu.
[17:14] <subz3r0> David23400, its a tutorial "How To Install Mac OS X Lion Theme On Lubuntu / LXDE"
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> David23400: right click the desktop -> change background
[17:14] <subz3r0> maybe you want to tell us where u stuck
[17:14] <David23400> But there isnt anything about mac when i right click on desktop and change the wallpaper
[17:15] <David23400> How can i set the wallpapers which i downloaded
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> David23400: on a blank piece of desktop you cn right click and change the desktop background
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> David23400: you can then select the wallpaper there
[17:16] <David23400> I go to desktop preferences
[17:16] <sambagirl> wow actionParsnip that's awesome :p
[17:16] <David23400> but then i dont know what to do
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> David23400: might be: configure desktop  in the right click menu
[17:16] <sambagirl> david23400 look on youtube
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: ?
[17:16] <sambagirl> umm?
[17:16] <sambagirl> oh nothing
[17:17] <systemd0wn> TJ-, Here I uninstalled and re-installed the kernel mainbuilds so that i could capture the install output: paste.ubuntu.com/1134615 I am able to boot into the mainbuild kernel. Is there anything in this output that should cause concern?
[17:18] <arabi> what is meant by tulane technology ????
[17:18] <David23400> ActionParsnip where exactly?
[17:18] <trism> systemd0wn: you need both linux-headers packages
[17:19] <P4_> Guys, I have an issue with Backtrack 5 that is based on Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS.  How should I gracefully set GDM to run after startup in latest BT 5? It is installed using Synaptic and even enabled using rcconf (confirmed presence of apropriate symlinks in rc.d). Still it is not starting up automagically but requires manual sudo service gdm start.
[17:19] <arabi> any one know what is meant by tulane technology??
[17:19] <trism> systemd0wn: the arch specific one and the arch independent one
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> David23400: if you right click the desktop and click 'configure desktop'
[17:19] <P4_> Could anyone possibly help, please? (-:
[17:19] <David23400> i'm on lubuntu
[17:19] <llutz> !backtrack | P4_
[17:19] <systemd0wn> trism, Thanks. I'll look back to the wiki
[17:20] <P4_> thank you, llutz
[17:20] <arabi> what is meant by tulance technology and Rs.6000 cluster ?? can any one help pls ??
[17:20] <usr13> arabi: twoname?
[17:21] <usr13> twolame
[17:21] <P4_> erm, --- #backtrack-linux :Cannot send to channel :/
[17:21] <usr13> *(typo)
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> David23400: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1o8cYtoILc  wind to 1:34
[17:21] <systemd0wn> trism, oh so the "amd64" and the "all" headers.
[17:21] <subz3r0> P4_, you've to register your nick...
[17:21] <davidrsmorris> Hey, I messed up my /etc/fstab, and I have no idea what I did wrong.  It's the last line that doesn't work.  Can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/0JmKM6JW
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> David23400: its just like in windows. I don't get why this is such a challenge...
[17:21] <trism> systemd0wn: yes
[17:21] <systemd0wn> trism, excellent. Thank you.
[17:21] <llutz> arabi: how is that ubuntu-related? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS/6000
[17:21] <P4_> d'oh
[17:22] <David23400> man i know ths
[17:22] <subz3r0> its not d'oh, its thank you very much
[17:22] <David23400> But the package i installed I dont know where is the wallpapers intalled
[17:22] <usr13> davidrsmorris: So what is wrong?
[17:22] <David23400> to choose
[17:22] <P4_> subz3r0, actually i was expecting one could help me figure it out here ^^
[17:23] <bobweaver> David23400,  what are you trying to do with wallpapers ? sorry I just walked into this.
[17:23] <usr13> davidrsmorris: /winPartition ?
[17:23] <ThinkT510> P4_: backtrack isn't suppirted here
[17:23] <subz3r0> P4_, backtrack is not ubuntu. if you got a question related to backtrack, we do not support that
[17:23] <arabi> what is IBM TULANE ?? pls help
[17:23] <David23400> http://namakutux.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-install-mac-os-x-lion-theme-on.html
[17:23] <David23400> this is the website
[17:23] <David23400> I have installed the package with wallpapers in it
[17:23] <David23400> But i dont know how to set it up
[17:23] <P4_> ok, i see. how is it done in Ubuntu then? If I'd like to disable display manager and run text mode, how to proceed the proper way?
[17:24] <davidrsmorris> usr13: it won't mount that last entry.  It says "line 15 of /etc/fstab is bad"
[17:24] <llutz> arabi: how is you stuff ubuntu-related? learn to use web-resources for offtopic things
[17:24] <bobweaver> David23400,  you are on Lubuntu ?
[17:24] <David23400> yes
[17:24] <bobweaver> ok
[17:24] <subz3r0> P4_, deinstall the DE
[17:24] <bobweaver> and you installed the debs ?
[17:24] <davidrsmorris> usr13: yes, that directory exists.
[17:24] <David23400> yes i've
[17:25] <P4_> obviously. thanks for you assistance anyway (-:
[17:25] <subz3r0> P4_, you're welcome
[17:25] <usr13> davidrsmorris: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send us resulting URL.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> David23400: let me play with the deb and i'll see where they hide
[17:25] <bobweaver> David23400,  there it is not under Preferences -> Customize Look And Feel
[17:26] <David23400> bobweaver, there is no wallpaper section in that
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> David23400: there is: /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/Andromeda.jpeg   and    /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/mac_osx_lion_space_wallpaper.jpg
[17:26] <namja> Hi all. Trying to get an MSI n8400gs graphics card to work. Running ubuntu 10.04 activated the restricted hardware drivers for the car (nvidia-current). On reboot I get "failed to load modual nvidia" "modual does not exist". Please help! :)
[17:26] <namja> s/car/card/
[17:28] <David23400> ActionParsnip, Thank you very much
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> David23400: I extracted the deb file to look at it's guts :)
[17:29] <David23400> ok thx
[17:29] <usr13> davidrsmorris: sudo blkid |grep sda2
[17:29] <qhartman> Getting weird permission denied messages when I'm trying to run certain scripts if they have errors in them. IF I just run the script, it returns "bash: $scriptname: Permission denied", but if I call it with bash it shows me the actual error
[17:30] <qhartman> It seems like some sort of environment problem or something, but I'm not sure where to look to fix it.
[17:30] <JanxSpirit> can anyone here help me figure out why my bluetooth stopped working?
[17:30] <qhartman> This happens when running things as root or as a normal user
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> qhartman: are the scripts marked as executable?
[17:31] <qhartman> ActionParsnip, yup
[17:32] <qhartman> ActionParsnip, If I comment out the portions of the scripts that are breaking, they run fine
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> qhartman: might want to ask in #bash too
[17:33] <qhartman> ActionParsnip, good idea, thx
[17:33] <caixa> where are programs/games installed to? path?
[17:33] <TJ-> qhartman: does the script rely on some environment variables being set, that aren't now? best way to find out is add "set -x" as the 2nd or 3rd line of the file so it shows every command
[17:34] <Tobarja1> I've got a program that's causing a kernel explosion(don't know the proper term, it breaks, networking goes down, spews a bunch of stuff to screen and then just stops). Are the logs of that dump kept anywhere I can find?
[17:34] <davidrsmorris> I made that line myself to mount my windows partition, and it worked a few times until I booted into windows.
[17:34] <usr13> caixa: /usr/bin  usually, or /sbin or maybe /opt
[17:34] <TJ-> Tobarja1: Check in /var/logs/   ... probably the kern.log file
[17:34] <usr13> caixa: Can you be more specific as to what you are looking for?
[17:35] <TJ-> caixa: For system packages one of /bin/ /sbin/ /usr/bin/ /usr/sbin/ ... if locally built then /usr/local/bin/ or /usr/local/sbin/
[17:35] <caixa> usr13, i'm looking for where a game installed to
[17:36] <qhartman> TJ-, I've tried doing that sort of thing, but everything seems to be getting set right. I first ran into this issue with ec2-cmd tool. It started giving me this permission denied thing out of the blue (as far as I can tell) but after digging in, it'd not able to load some jars it requires even though the classpath is right.
[17:36] <usr13> caixa: I get that.  What in particular though.
[17:36] <TJ-> caixa: you can do "which <program-name>" to find the path to many executables
[17:36] <qhartman> TJ-, the latest problem is trying to build redis from source, where it's giving me the "permission denied" when trying to run make.
[17:37] <TJ-> qhartman: I recall having stumbled on the same thing several years ago; turned out to be an env variable with the wrong value
[17:37] <usr13> caixa: What is the name of the game?
[17:37] <Barka> hi
[17:37] <TJ-> qhartman: is that the package 'redis' or a source tarball?
[17:37] <usr13> caixa: And is it native to Ubuntu or does it run under wine?
[17:38] <usr13> caixa: or....?
[17:38] <qhartman> TJ-, I need a particular version so I'm building it from the tarball from redis.io
[17:39] <usr13> caixa: If you can tell us what game you installed, and how you installed it, we may be able to help.
[17:39] <TJ-> qhartman: I've just cloned the redis git repository; I'll try that
[17:39] <qhartman> TJ-, Works fine on all my servers, but on my workstation it chokes, and I suspect it's the same thing that caused my ec2-cmd to break
[17:39] <TJ-> qhartman: can you pastebin the output of "env" AFTER you've randomised any sensitive values in their?
[17:40] <qhartman> TJ-, correction to the above, the permission denied message gets triggered when trying to run ./configure for jemalloc dep in redis
[17:40] <qhartman> sure
[17:40] <Barka> im trying to set up a tunnel between ubuntu and damnsmalllinux within oracle virtual but im getting kinda stuck
[17:41] <TJ-> qhartman: have you looked at the config.log that it created?
[17:41] <rodj> hello folks
[17:42] <rodj> can someone tell me how to add an item to the dash menu on 12.04 (gnome)?
[17:42] <TJ-> qhartman: A good step in these situations is to create another user account and use that since it shouldn't be tainted by any of your shell or environment customisations
[17:43] <rodj> I added a file in .local/share/applications but the icon is not displaying.
[17:43] <Lost_Cause> rodj: gnome 2 or 3?
[17:43] <rodj> Lost_Cause 3
[17:43] <qhartman> TJ-, Yeah, that's how I discovered it was the same permission denied thing, it was in the config.log
[17:43] <qhartman> TJ-, good idea, I'll give that a shot.
[17:43] <xangua> Lost_Cause: gnome2 is dead, long live gnome
[17:44] <TJ-> qhartman: configure often tries to run with a minimal set of ENV vars
[17:44] <Lost_Cause> xangua: gnome 2 is still nice to use as a change of pace
[17:44] <Lost_Cause> rodj: what type of program or file or w/e are you trying to add to the dash
[17:45] <TJ-> qhartman:  one other thing that can catch you out like this: if the files it is trying to execute are on a file-system with the noexec option set
[17:45] <rodj> sublime2
[17:45] <qhartman> TJ-, This started at some point after moving my homedir onto a different device and mounting it under /home. I'm not sure if it correlates exactly, but that is the only change I can think of that might be relevant, but everything else seems happy
[17:45] <TJ-> qhartman: like USB flash devices
[17:46] <TJ-> qhartman: check the mount options I reckon
[17:46] <qhartman> TJ-, that's an interesting idea
[17:46] <qhartman> TJ-,ha! looks like that's it. awesome
[17:46] <TJ-> qhartman: nice one
[17:46] <qhartman> TJ-, goos thinking, thanks for talking through with me
[17:47] <qhartman> TJ-, I doubt I would have thought of that any time soon
[17:47] <TJ-> qhartman: you're welcome... glad it didn't end being a headache
[17:47] <qhartman> TJ- Now to see if it actually fixes it after unsetting that. I bet it does....
[17:47] <echobravo> Hey folks, big problem, here. Some troll friend changed my gnome3 language to some asian (chinese? Japanese? Korean? Doesn't matter). How do I change it back from the command line? I can't navigate through the menus.
[17:47] <TJ-> qhartman: I find the best way to discover this kind of bug fast is to use strace -o output.log -fe trace=file <program and args>
[17:48] <DebolazW> Is there a guide somewhere to install Ubuntu "by hand" from the alternate iso? Ie, from the command line.
[17:48] <qhartman> TJ-,yeah, I don't use strace nearly enough
[17:48] <TJ-> qhartman: then look in the strace log for denied errors
[17:48] <Lost_Cause> rodj: i love that text editor
[17:48] <Lost_Cause> jodj: http://davidetaviani.com/2012/03/07/creating-launchers-for-gnome-3-shell/
[17:48] <usr13> echobravo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911771
[17:49] <qhartman> TJ-, Every time I have thought to use it when against weird stuff it has supplied the asnwer
[17:49] <Lost_Cause> rodj: that should help
[17:49] <TJ-> qhartman: same here... that or gdb anyhow
[17:49] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I just started using it.  so far I like it a lot.
[17:49] <qhartman> TJ-, alright, BBIAB
[17:50] <echobravo> Thanks, @usr13, but it's not the keyboard layout that change. It was the system language (menus and such). =/
[17:50] <Lost_Cause> rodj: it is the only one i use now except for nano when i don't have a gui
[17:50] <elgaton> DebolazW: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/ - a bit technical though
[17:50] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  no ui for me = vi
[17:51] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I like I can use vi commands in sublime
[17:51] <prova> hello
[17:51] <usr13> echobravo: edit /etc/default/locale, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130649/when-i-rebooted-12-04-certain-menus-are-in-chinese-japanese
[17:51] <prova> !lista
[17:52] <Lost_Cause> rodj: i am too newby to figure out how to effectily use vi.  i end up just getting angry
[17:52] <prova> !channel
[17:53] <qhartman> TJ-, So much better! Something is still broken with the ec2-cmd tools, but redis is building correctly now.
[17:54] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  vi it takes some getting use to.  if I had to learn again, I probably would not be as successfull.
[17:54] <archana> Hi. I am installing ubuntu now in my new laptop. In "something else" partitioning, what mount point should I set for a drive which is not root or not home...
[17:54] <echobravo> The locale in /etc/default/local is en_US.UTF-8
[17:54] <echobravo> Please note I'm using gnome3, not unity.
[17:55] <elgaton> archana: It's up to you, just choose a directory that will remind you of the contents of that partition. E.G.: if it's the Windows partition, use /windows.
[17:55] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  is there a way to tell the menu to reload?  I think I had to log off and logon to see changes.
[17:55] <archana> elgaton: it's a new harddrive with full free space. I bought it without windows preinstalled.
[17:56] <Aaron> rodj if you using gnome type f2 and type r
[17:56] <archana> elgaton: I want to create drives in which I will only store files.. I mean, not root or not home. What mount point do I set for it?  "/mount" is not shown in drop down menu
[17:56] <echobravo> Well, a coworker managed to bring it back to english. Thanks, anyway!
[17:57] <archana> elgaton: sorry. I mean /mount
[17:57] <archana> elgaton: I mean, in my desktop, extra drives are mounted in /media
[17:57] <archana> elgaton: do you understand my problem? Sorry, English is not my native language.
[17:57] <Lost_Cause> rodj: Typing 'r' or 'restart' in the Alt+F2 prompt will restart GNOME Shell
[17:58] <usr13> echobravo: Sorry, never had that problem, was just relying on google ...
[17:58] <elgaton> archana: I do :) Just use a directory with a meaningful name and preferably in the root, for example "/files".
[17:58] <ThinkT510> archana: if its blank then it can't be mounted yet
[17:58] <Arthar360> archana : Use /var for storing files…..Generally files over ftp http are stored in /var
[17:59] <ThinkT510> archana: you need to give it partitions with filesystems
[17:59] <elgaton> Arthar360: He's trying to set up a mount point for a new disk, using /var wouldn't serve that purpose.
[17:59] <dae444> Ubuntu 11.10: using unity, is there a way to disable drag and drop integration with Firefox?! I have a web app that lets me drag/drop links on a page to reorganize them (html5). When I drag, Ubuntu issues multiple HTTP HEAD requests for the URL and generally breaks drag and drop within Firefox for 5 or 10 seconds
[17:59] <archana> ThinkT510: Arthar360 elgaton :  I don't want to store files in root. I just to want have one root, one home, one three more partitions..
[18:00] <usr13> elgaton: And that is pretty much personal preference, (needs to be something that makes sense to the user), so....
[18:00] <archana> ThinkT510: Arthar360 elgaton like this : root partition, home partition, partition one, partition two.
[18:00] <usr13> elgaton: He needs to be asked some questions...
[18:00] <archana> I just want to know the mount point in "create new partition" window.
[18:01] <elgaton> archana: Choose something like "/files".
[18:01] <usr13> archana: The mount point is up to you to choose.
[18:01] <ghabit> Hello. How can I change default browser?
[18:01] <archana> elgaton: / for root, /home for home, but what mount point for a file storage partition.
[18:01] <archana> elgaton: wait, let me see if there is a "/files" , thank you.
[18:01] <xangua> ghabit: search Prefered Apps in the dash
[18:02] <elgaton> archana: If it does not exist, just create it.
[18:02] <ThinkT510> archana: you don't have to decide now, you can make them later
[18:02] <usr13> archana: It can be /home/archana/videos  or /home/achana/pictures or....
[18:02] <ghabit> xangua, what is dash? I'm using gnome-shell.
[18:02] <ThinkT510> archana: call it whatever you like
[18:02] <usr13> archana: So you first create the directory.  mkdir ~/Files
[18:02] <usr13> or....
[18:03] <archana> ThinkT510: usr13 you mean, I can simple type "/files" in create new parition window?
[18:03] <JanxSpirit> bluetooth...anyone?
[18:03] <ThinkT510> archana: i tend to mount them under /mnt/whateveryouwanttocallit
[18:03] <JanxSpirit> I can no longer seem to turn on bluetooth on my 11.10 machine
[18:03] <ThinkT510> archana: i wouldn't put them under /
[18:03] <JanxSpirit> used to work fine
[18:03] <JanxSpirit> am guessing some update screwed with it
[18:04] <usr13> archana: You create a new directory for it, and then make the entry in the /etc/fstab file that indicates that the partition be mounted there in that [new] directory.
[18:04] <caixa> anyone know how i can download libpng15?
[18:04] <caixa> software center only has v12
[18:04] <archana> ThinkT510: so, shall I type "/mnt/storage" ?
[18:04] <Arthar360> archana : See my Pm
[18:05] <ThinkT510> archana: i would wait till after the install then make them manually
[18:05] <ThinkT510> archana: you'd need to have the directories there to mount them too
[18:05] <usr13> caixa: So you now have libpng12?  What is needing it?
[18:05] <rodj> No luck :(
[18:05] <ThinkT510> to
[18:05] <usr13> caixa: You may be able to just do a symlink
[18:05] <j0hnsm1th> hi, im having a rather annoying problem, for some reason i cant upload anything through my browser(firefox) im using ubuntu12.04. i can't upload to facebook or any of the pastebin type sites. any ideas?
[18:06] <rodj> The app shows up  in the list, but the icon is wrong
[18:06] <caixa> usr13, yes, i have 12 and trying to launch a game and getting -libpng15.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:06] <archana> ThinkT510: will installation proceed in a new unpartitioned harddrive if I leave the mount point empty, and then create another two partitions which can have mount point / and mount point /home?
[18:07] <joe_Vitel> Can anyone make sense of the apache error "Expired timestamp: given 1344340094 and now 1344361645 has a greater difference than threshold 300"? ntp is running and the hardware clock is correct.
[18:07] <usr13> caixa: ln -s /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng15.so.15
[18:07] <ThinkT510> archana: no, you need / to install to
[18:07] <usr13> caixa: sudo ln -s /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng15.so.15
[18:08] <Lost_Cause> rodj: does it open the program though?
[18:08] <caixa> usr13, ln: failed to create symbolic link `/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng15.so.15': Permission denied
[18:08] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  yes, it does.
[18:08] <usr13> archana: Wow, you are doing an install.  I thought you were working on an existing system.  Sorry for irrelevant information ....
[18:08] <usr13> caixa: sudo ln -s /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng15.so.15
[18:09] <ThinkT510> archana: if you are using a separate /home then in the installer set the / and /home partitions, after the install then make and set any extra storage partitions
[18:09] <archana> usr13: new laptop, bought without windows preinstalled.
[18:09] <usr13> archana: Awesome!
[18:09] <caixa> usr13, ln: failed to create symbolic link `/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng15.so.15': File exists
[18:09] <usr13> caixa: So where is it expecting it to be?
[18:10] <archana> usr13: It has full unpartitioned space of 750 gb.. Now I want to create "partition 1, partition 2, extended partition which will have root, home"
[18:10] <usr13> caixa: Or *what* is it expecting?
[18:10] <caixa> usr13, could it be because i have the game folder on the desktop?
[18:10] <archana> usr13: I want that partition 1 outside for installing windows at a later time if there is a need. Now I wish to know what to choose as mount point for that?
[18:11] <archana> usr13: sorry, but do you understand my English? :(
[18:11] <usr13> archana: Well, you're gonna want a small swap, a larger / partition, and the rest for /home  ( the / partition can be 20 or 30M maybe even less).
[18:11] <usr13> archana: Well, you're gonna want a small swap, a larger / partition, and the rest for /home  ( the / partition can be 20 or 30G maybe even less).
[18:11] <usr13> *sorry* *typo*
[18:12] <mrgenixus> trying to find out why Chrome is causing an error in ALSA on a system running pulse-audo
[18:12] <usr13> archana: I would say go with about 4G for swap, 40G for /  and the rest for /home
[18:13] <OMGUBUNTU> Chrome on ubuntu gives me flash isues
[18:13] <shiman6> On ubuntu server edition, eth0 randomly stops transmitting during a multicast session. Anybody know of this?
[18:13] <OMGUBUNTU> yet Chromium is great and works fine
[18:13] <archana> usr13: I know all that, thanks. But I just need to know what mount point to give for a drive which is a separate drive, not in root,home,swap list.
[18:13] <OMGUBUNTU> shiman6 I'm pretty sure there is a server channel
[18:13] <usr13> caixa: is it looking for libpng15.so.15 or just libpng15.so ?
[18:14] <OMGUBUNTU> shiman6 : you might find your anser there
[18:14] <shiman6> i tried looking for it. do you know the channel?
[18:14] <OMGUBUNTU> shiman6 or bing it XD *google*
[18:14] <shiman6> i googled it and checked ubuntu's list of known channels
[18:14] <shiman6> it told me to go here
[18:14] <ThinkT510> shiman6: here is fine too (#ubuntu-server if you wanted to know)
[18:15] <OMGUBUNTU> Google say "Ubuntu server 12.04 ethernet *issue here
[18:15] <[snake]> is there a way to prepend data to a file in C with fopen or anything?
[18:15] <caixa> say again, i was restarting
[18:15] <Lost_Cause> rodj: check the icon path in the .desktop file you created
[18:15] <archana> thanks everyone, i am going to try ubunt uforums.
[18:15] <shiman6> okay. I will ask there
[18:15] <Lost_Cause> make sure it is correct and not the default one from the link i gave to you
[18:16] <OMGUBUNTU> C? Are we talking windows [snake]
[18:16] <[snake]> OMGUBUNTU, no ubuntu :p
[18:16] <buddylinux> Clip2net is not running on 64-bit system http://clip2net.com/en/ Anyone else on 64-bit could perhaps test this? Its a simple bin file. chmod +x followed by ./filename.bin usually starts the installer
[18:16] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I did, but I did not test to make sure it was a valid .png.
[18:16] <rodj> Lost_Cause: one sec
[18:17] <[snake]> OMGUBUNTU, i'd go with mac for developing before windows even.
[18:17] <caixa> usr13, what were you saying, i had to restart
[18:17] <elgaton> [snake]: No, you should read the whole file, then rewrite it prepending the additional data you want to add
[18:17] <[snake]> elgaton, good idea.
[18:18] <buddylinux> What are the advantages of running 64-bit system? I hear with PAE one can have available up to 64gb of RAM on a 32-bit system.
[18:18] <mrgenixus> 32bit systems can't address more than 4gb.  I don't think there's anything that will get you around that
[18:18] <ThinkT510> !pae | mrgenixus
[18:19] <shiman6> mrgenixus: pae lets you get around that 4 gb cap if the processor supports it
[18:19] <rafacarrascosa> fuck ubuntu one! dropbox rules!
[18:19] <shiman6> and #ubuntu-server is a dead chat
[18:19] <mrgenixus> shiman6: buddylinux sounds like there aren't any, if you have PAE installed
[18:19] <Jordan_U> buddylinux: Many operations are faster with 64 bit instructions than with 32 bit instructions, also with PAE an individual application can still only access 3 GiB (which for most Desktop apps is more than enough).
[18:20] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  http://pastie.org/4407248
[18:21] <ThinkT510> buddylinux: bottom line is usually if you got 64bit why not use it? (unless there is something that doesn't work on 64bit, which is amitedly not much)
[18:21] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  maybe you can see something dumb I missed
[18:21] <usr13> caixa: is it looking for libpng15.so.15 or just libpng15.so ?
[18:22] <caixa> usr13, libpng15.so.15
[18:22] <shiman6> Nobody's responding in the other chat. Could i get help with ubuntu server here?
[18:23] <usr13> caixa: Why did you reboot?
[18:23] <Aitor> account for minecraft free? :(
[18:23] <usr13> shiman6: Sure...
[18:23] <caixa> usr13, i thought maybe the libs i installed required a reboot
[18:23] <buddylinux> ThinkT510, well, now Clip2net is not working... just seems Ubuntu runs more seamlessly on 32-bit and after reading this article, Im wondering if 64 is a bit hyped? http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/32-bit-vs-64-bit-linux-which-to-choose.html
[18:24] <ThinkT510> buddylinux: if something doesn't work on 64bit then it is almost certainly the fault of that app
[18:24] <shiman6> my main network interface randomly stops transmitting all packets during a multicast session, and only when i'm multicasting, and i have to restart to use the interface again. it doesnt seem to be the program either.
[18:24] <Lost_Cause> rodj: i can't see an issue.  maybe try using a different picture format and check your graphics driver and make sure its up to date.
[18:24] <usr13> caixa: Installing new libs usually includes ldconfig and depmod -a and so there is no need to reboot.
[18:24] <Lost_Cause> rodj: i am sorry i am stumped
[18:25] <usr13> caixa: But if you do a symlink, no need for anything.
[18:25] <buddylinux> Jordan_U, can't think of an app which requires more than 3gb ram. I only have 8gb ram anyway. I hear some things even run slower on 64, so, does that balance out? Pros and Cons ... but
[18:25] <Jordan_U> buddylinux: Flash is native 64 bit now.
[18:25] <S4nD3r> hi there. Id like a help to use ubuntu interface in english, and keyboard language to type in portuguese brazilian. What do I need to do ?
[18:25] <caixa> usr13, doesnt make sense, i have libpng15.so.15 in /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ folder
[18:25] <business2727> Hello
[18:25] <business2727> Good day?
[18:25] <buddylinux> Jordan_U, I was going to add... the 32 vs 64 has people divided
[18:26] <business2727> could any one help me please?
[18:26] <usr13> caixa: and.....?
[18:26] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, you need a "keyboard layout" for your language. hit the meta key and start typing "keyboard layout"
[18:26] <t432> where does the setting for the classpath reside?
[18:26] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, it should bring up the keyboard layout options
[18:26] <shiman6> buddylinux: Ubuntu seems to do a pretty good job at 64 bit, windows on the otherhand doesnt.
[18:26] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  ok, thanks
[18:26] <caixa> usr13, and the game running in terminal tells me there is no such fire or directory
[18:26] <elgaton> business2727: Just state your question, if someone knows the answer he will respond
[18:26] <caixa> usr13, could it be because the game folder is on the desktop?
[18:26] <elgaton> t432: in the CLASSPATH environment variable
[18:26] <business2727> I just installed xubuntu on my pc and i want to activate wireless card?
[18:26] <usr13> caixa: Tells you there is no such file *where*?
[18:27] <caixa> usr13, /home/jeffrey/Desktop/desura/common/warsow/warsow.x86_64'
[18:27] <caixa> /home/jeffrey/Desktop/desura/common/warsow/warsow.x86_64: error while loading shared libraries: libpng15.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:27] <S4nD3r> when I type locale, i got it LANGUAGE=pt_BR:pt_PT:zh_CN
[18:27] <t432> elgaton: where the location of this file?
[18:27] <Lost_Cause> rodj: try using Desktop Entry Editor
[18:27] <t432> is the*
[18:27] <S4nD3r> I remove zh_CN but that always come back
[18:27] <t432> I need to add something to the file
[18:27] <Lost_Cause> it should allow you to preview the icon to see if it works
[18:27] <usr13> caixa: let's start over.   What game is it and how was it installed.  And where was it downloaded from?(if applicable).
[18:28] <business2727> I just installed xubuntu on my pc and i want to activate wireless card????
[18:28] <elgaton> t432: open a terminal and type "echo $CLASSPATH" to view it - it is normally set in ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[18:28] <shiman6> any known ubuntu issues with clonezilla and drbl?
[18:28] <caixa> usr13, its warsow installed from desure x64 client
[18:28] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, you should open your System Settings, it has everything about language support and keyboard layouts in t
[18:28] <lousygarua> S4nD3r,  *in it
[18:28] <usr13> caixa: What?
[18:28] <S4nD3r> I did
[18:29] <S4nD3r> But china is not marked as installed
[18:29] <usr13> caixa: Did you do:  sudo apt-get install warsow   ?
[18:29] <S4nD3r> then, I can't to remove it
[18:29] <elgaton> business2727: It should work out of the box - if not, there are generally simple steps to perform (and I'll try to help you). Do you know its make and model?
[18:29] <usr13> caixa: or....?
[18:29] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  that somehting I install?
[18:29] <caixa> usr13, i installed it through desura, its a game client like steam
[18:29] <usr13> caixa: Why did you *not* use the package manager?
[18:29] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, wait, you have your system in English but can't type in Portuguese?
[18:30] <S4nD3r> sure
[18:30] <business2727> elgaton, it's Broadcom 802.11b\g
[18:30] <usr13> caixa: i.e.  sudo apt-get install warsow
[18:30] <caixa> usr13, why? because ive installed a few other games through the client and they've worked
[18:30] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, there are two things to notice, one is the keyboard layout which is what language you can TYPE in, and the other is the locale you mentioned which is the installed languages on the system
[18:30] <lousygarua> (or something like that :)
[18:30] <S4nD3r> I like to read in english, but I'm brazilian, then I type in portuguese
[18:30] <usr13> caixa: Oh ok.
[18:30] <caixa> usr13, and im pretty sure it doesnt have a package
[18:30] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, go to Keyboard Layout then
[18:30] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, not to Language Support
[18:30] <usr13> caixa: Well, I'm pretty sure it does
[18:30] <S4nD3r> ok, it's in brazil layout
[18:31] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, can you change the language with alt+shift?
[18:31] <Lost_Cause> rodj: https://github.com/MicahCarrick/desktop-entry-editor#install
[18:31] <S4nD3r> sure
[18:31] <usr13> caixa: apt-cache search warsow    #An easy way to check to see if it is there or not.  (FYI)...
[18:31] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, ok so the problem is the Chinese thing? I probably didn't understand your problem
[18:31] <elgaton> business2727: Could you open a terminal and type "sudo lshw", then paste the output in a pastebin?
[18:31] <caixa> usr13, yeah it returns nothing
[18:32] <S4nD3r> neither app works with these layout
[18:32] <S4nD3r> in skype for example
[18:32] <S4nD3r> in texmaker
[18:32] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, can you type in Portuguese in a simple application like gedit?
[18:32] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, if this doesn't work then alt
 how could i do that? now i talk to you from my second system on same pc on xp now
[18:32] <usr13> caixa: You should enable multiverse
[18:33] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, *it means alt+shift doesn't change your layout from english to portuguese
[18:33] <caixa> usr13, what is that?
[18:33] <usr13> !multiverse | caixa
[18:33] <S4nD3r> çççaçaããããéééáááá it's ok !
[18:33] <S4nD3r> but in texmaker and skype no !
[18:33] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, i see, just a second
[18:33] <S4nD3r> and, there china there
[18:33] <bj0rn2> I've just reinstalled and setup Ubuntu 12.04 on new hardware, all things look good. The new hardware has UEFI boot and it seem to boot faster with this so I want it on. I have another operating system installed on another drive/partition which I could boot from GRUB2 on my old hardware which did not have UEFI. update-grub finds the other bootable partition and makes a menu entry for it, but it will not boot... complaining about UEFI something. I
[18:33] <bj0rn2> s it possible to boot old BIOS bootable partitions using GRUB2 on UEFI?
[18:35] <elgaton> business2727: OK, run this specific command: "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4". What I need are (1) the precise card model (it should look like "BCExxxx") and the PCI ID of the card (should look like "[14e4:xxxx]"). (xxxx are letters and/or numbers).
[18:35] <jakub> Could someone help me with java plugin for chromium. I performedsteps from ubuntu how to site and java is instaled but problem is with plugin. If you able to help pls priv me
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> bj0rn2, I know nothing about UEFI, but here is a wiki to check out while you are waiting. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#UEFI%20Shell
[18:35] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, By the  way if you write someone's nickname in the message it will highlight it for them so it's easier to read. To highlight me please type "lous<TAB>" and it should autocomplete to my nick
[18:36] <elgaton> jakub: Try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47240/how-can-i-enable-java-in-chromium
[18:36] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, ok then!
[18:37] <narcos> Hi all. Anyone familiar with setting up dhcp relays? More specifically, the dhcpd.conf to match, given multiple relaying agents.
 How could i run that? from The prompt command????? I'm on xp
[18:37] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, try this: open Keyboard Layout again, and choose "Allow different layouts for individual windows"
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> bj0rn2, Are signed up with the ubuntu forums as well?
[18:38] <bj0rn2> wilee-nilee: yup
[18:38] <riktking> hi i have an issue with my sdcard device, it will not mount my cameras SD card
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> bj0rn2, cool there is great help there on this sort of subject. ;)
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> start a thread if needed
[18:39] <elgaton> business2727: Have you access on a second computer near you? It would be extremely useful to chat on one system and try to solve the problem on the one you are currently on.
[18:39] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, you mean "Separate layout for each window"?
[18:39] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, or "New windows use active window's layout" ?
[18:39] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I moved the icon to /tmp/s.png  that worked
[18:40] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  now to find a proper location for it.
[18:40] <elgaton> business2727: Otherwise, I can just tell you if your card is supported or not and give you the steps to solve the problem, but I won't be able to help in case it does not work
[18:40] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, I got different options to choose from. Try choosing Separate layout for each window
 how could i run the specific command
[18:40] <bj0rn2> wilee-nilee: thanks, will do.. after trying to get some answers at #grub :)
[18:40] <caixa> usr13, i think its already enabled, the lines in the sources.list aren't commented
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> bj0rn2, cool.
[18:40] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, these is checked!
[18:41] <usr13> caixa: then do:  sudo apt-get update
[18:41] <usr13> caixa: The multiverse line is not commented?
[18:41] <jakub> elgaton: Java isnt listed on chrome://plugins
[18:41] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, you have the latest ubuntu? 12.04? do you use gnome3 or unity?
[18:41] <elgaton> business2727: Just a minute, I'll search if there's another way to check the model without rebooting to Ubuntu
[18:41] <S4nD3r> 11.04
[18:41] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, I use multiple layouts myself and don't have this problem with skype :(
[18:42] <caixa> usr13, http://pastebin.com/Cb0cHrQq that is my sources.list
[18:42] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, ummm
[18:42] <usr13> caixa: doing  sudo apt-get update  should enable any newly selected sources
[18:42] <caixa> usr13, the only thing commented is canonicals
[18:42] <elgaton> jakub: Then install it (the package name is icedtea-6-plugin) and restart Chromium, should work after that
[18:42] <en1gma> is there a GUI for looking at Groups and Users?
[18:43] <elgaton> en1gma: Yes, in the control panel (on both GNOME/Unity and KDE)
[18:43] <usr13> caixa: sudo apt-get update
[18:43] <caixa> usr13, yeah i did it then did another search same thing comes up empty
[18:43] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, Is it possible to reset all configuration to language desktop?
[18:43] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, maybe some missed configuration is broken
[18:44] <ajnr> Hi I am facing a problem ! while upgrading my ubuntu to 12.04 LTS unfortunately shutdown the system and after that when i reboot my system  it shows black screen , i am not able to login to my ubuntu
[18:44] <usr13> caixa: lsb_release -r  #Show us what it says.
[18:44] <caixa> 12.04
[18:45] <usr13> caixa: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:45] <kalxas> hi all
[18:45] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, I'm not sure, maybe try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33025/locale-settings-are-not-right-how-can-i-reset-them
[18:45] <kalxas>  I am trying to customize a xubuntu iso based on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Advanced_Customizations
[18:46] <kalxas>  I was able to rebuild the initrd.lz file
[18:46] <kalxas> so that I have username and password set for the live session user
[18:46] <Lost_Cause> rodj:  /opt is for third-party binaries so installing it there would probably make the most sense
[18:46] <ajnr>  Hi all , I am facing a problem ! while upgrading my ubuntu to 12.04 LTS unfortunately shutdown the system and after that when i reboot my system  it shows black screen , i am not able to login to my ubuntu, please help me out
[18:46] <elgaton> business2727: OK, to get the hardware ID open Computer Management, then open the Device Manager, right-click on your wireless card and choose Properties, in the Advanced tab there should be a dropdown list, choose "Hardware ID" from that and copy and paste the contents displayed below (I'm going from memory, might not be 100% accurate)
[18:46] <caixa> usr13, ok it finished
[18:46] <kalxas>  but I am not succeeding in changing the background image
[18:46] <kalxas> can please someone give a hint on that?
[18:46] <en1gma> elgaton O_o you were right. thanks
[18:47] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, I'll see it. Thanks for awhile
[18:47] <elgaton> en1gma: You're welcome
[18:47] <usr13> caixa: And then do: apt-cache search warsow
[18:47] <ajnr> What to do afetr brokenm ubuntu upgrade !I am not able to login !
[18:47] <en1gma> i just installed wireshark and when i do 'sudo wireshark' it dont like being ran as root. am i supposed to run it a different way? i dont see a wireshark group
[18:47] <ajnr> please help me out
[18:47] <caixa> usr13, same thing, returns nothing... its weird though because i never uncommented multiverse before
[18:48] <caixa> usr13, the only thing ive ever done in sources.list was add spotify
[18:48] <Lost_Cause> en1gma: just run it as wireshark
[18:49] <en1gma> k
[18:49] <ajnr>  Hi all , I am facing a problem ! while upgrading my ubuntu to 12.04 LTS unfortunately shutdown the system and after that when i reboot my system  it shows black screen , i am not able to login to my ubuntu, the system freezes at seemingly random points and leaves me with only a cursor. please help me out  !
[18:49] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  the desktop does not like the spaces.
[18:49] <elgaton> ajnr: Did the shutdown occur in the middle of the upgrade?
[18:49] <usr13> caixa: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/precise/games/getdeb/warsow
[18:50] <ajnr> elgaton, yes , one of my friend just shut down , he was not aware that upgrade is going on :(
[18:50] <caixa> usr13, all the links are broken
[18:50] <Lost_Cause> rodj: what do you mean??
[18:50] <ajnr> elgaton, now the system   freezes at seemingly random points and leaves me with only a cursor
[18:51] <caixa> usr13, even playdeb doesnt work, broken link
[18:51] <usr13> caixa: What links are broken?
[18:51] <caixa> usr13, 64bit deb package, apt install
[18:51] <elgaton> ajnr: it would be wise to backup, format the Ubuntu partition and reinstall from scratch, the system might have been left in an unstable state with mixed packages from the old and the new version
[18:51] <lousygarua> kalxas, I'm looking at the link you gave, I'll try to help you although you probably know more than me,
[18:52] <kalxas> lousygarua, thanks
[18:52] <ajnr> elgaton, its the worst case scenario ! its not possible to recover it !?
[18:52] <kalxas> I have tried to reach ubuntu-devel and xubuntu-devel without success
[18:52] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I changed it to be  "Icon=/home/rodj/apps/sublime/Icon/128x128/sublime_text.png"  and changed the directory from "Sublime Text 2" to "sublime"
[18:53] <kalxas> I have replaced the image in initrd with my own (using the same file name) but still does not work
[18:53] <kalxas> I assume that ubuntu and xubuntu are the same in that
[18:54] <bj0rn2> ajnr: I recommend separating / and /home partitions to make it easy to install from scratch instead of upgrading. you could clean out your current installation to represent home fix up the partitions using gparted.
[18:54] <elgaton> ajnr: It would be difficult as you would need to examine the installation logs (I think they should be in /var/log/installer, don't remember the exact directory), then see which packages were upgraded and which ones were not, install the missing packages (paying attention to the dependencies)... There is a thing you could try though:
[18:55] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, thank you very much
[18:55] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  no the only issue (very minor) is there is no icon on the recently used.  There a way to clear that?
[18:55] <S4nD3r> lousygarua, now it's all working good!
[18:55] <ajnr> elgaton, but how to do ? dint know the procedure !
[18:55] <lousygarua> S4nD3r, good :) you followed the instructions on the askubuntu link I sent?
[18:56] <elgaton> ajnr: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, edit all lines so that the distribution is "precise" and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" - it's extremely risky though and it's only a temporary solution.
[18:56] <elgaton> ajnr: Better to backup and reinstall from scratch.
[18:56] <evilytwisted> is it possible to create something like this for ubuntu http://i.imgur.com/84Oic.jpg
[18:56] <usr13> caixa: You should be asking about this issue in a desura forum of some sort.
[18:56] <Lost_Cause> rodj: not that i know of. try the old try and true of power cycle or restarting the shell again now that the icon works
[18:57] <ajnr> how to backup ? elgaton
[18:57] <spirit3_> evilytwisted: you can create anything you like for Linux
[18:57] <eightieskhild> !x
[18:57] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  not that big of a deal
[18:57] <eightieskhild> !ati
[18:57] <evilytwisted> spirit3_: like this http://i.imgur.com/84Oic.jpg?
[18:58] <spirit3_> evilytwisted: what? interesting backdrop and some CPU/disk space monitors plus a weather gadget?  what's so special about it?
[18:58] <Lost_Cause> rodj: ya i just don't know too much about gnome.  i also just used a terminal to launch sublime
[18:58] <evilytwisted> spirit3_:  the menu thing,
[18:58] <evilytwisted> enables you to set something in the center of the desktop
[18:59] <evilytwisted> and act like a small menu
[18:59] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I am too lazy to lauch it from the command line, lol
[18:59] <lousygarua> kalxas, I'm not sure, but maybe the instructions in the link you gave are for gnome2 and gnome3 has more configuration files for the background (even if you use unity it's still only a shell over gnome3)
[18:59] <spirit3_> evilytwisted: I'm sure there's a launcher suitable ... maybe look somewhere like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_desktop_application_launchers
[18:59] <lousygarua> kalxas, maybe while chrooted try something like this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=933248
[19:00] <ajnr> elgaton, is it possible to get the terminal
[19:00] <ajnr> elgaton, otherwise its not possible to get backup my data !
[19:00] <Lost_Cause> rodj: if its in the path all you have to do is type "subl" +tab + enter and your done.  no need to use a mouse
[19:00] <elgaton> ajnr: Start the system from a live CD, then connect an external drive/USB key. Open a terminal and type "cd <path to old home dir on disk> && tar -pczf <path to external drive>/backup.tar.gz ."
[19:01] <elgaton> ajnr: That will backup ALL the contents in your home directory to a file named backup.tar.gz on your external drive.
[19:01] <kalxas> lousygarua, I am working on a xubuntu iso so I have xfce to play with
[19:01] <elgaton> ajnr: You could try to type Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get the terminal, don't know if it will work though
[19:01] <lousygarua> kalxas, ahhhhh right i forgot
[19:01] <ajnr> elgaton, its not coming ! i tried it
[19:02] <mxiia> how can I make my computer always request the same IP no matter what router it connects to?
[19:02] <elgaton> ajnr: Then the system is definitely not working, the only solution is booting from a live CD and use the terminal from there.
[19:02] <lousygarua> kalxas, did you find a link explaining to change the default xfce background? I dunno
[19:02] <rodj> Lost_Cause:  I know, I know.
[19:02] <jakub> elgaton, but on official "askubuntu" there is i should remove icedtea6-plugin and make link. In my system it is: ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[19:02] <ajnr> elgaton, okk !
[19:03] <caixa> usr13, lol i think the problem is the game not desura, im tryig this method now - http://www.warsow.net/download/ubuntu_precise
[19:03] <usr13> caixa: Or maybe *searching* this issue in a desura forum
[19:03] <jakub> elgaton, I just try to understand :) thats the url: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-7
[19:04] <usr13> caixa: Ok...
[19:04] <kalxas> lousygarua, I am able to do this while building my applications in the custom disk, but I want the same image in the installation process. this is what I do for the custom build: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_desktop.sh
[19:04] <caixa> usr13,  i have searched, asking here is after google searching
[19:04] <caixa> usr13, thanks for your help though, i appreciate it
[19:04] <elgaton> jakub: That's for Java 7 downloaded from the Oracle Web site, not for the version of Java included with Ubuntu
[19:04] <kalxas> lousygarua, and this is my chroot script: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/build_chroot.sh
[19:05] <usr13> caixa: NP
[19:06] <playman> hello, i'm using a wireless USB mouse, witch suddenly stopped working and when I check the syslog I get this " usb 2-2: reset low speed USB device number 12 using uhci_hcd" I dont get just number 12. any one know what's wrong?
[19:08] <caixa> usr13, unreal... it works following that guide.. i think i needed precise binaries
[19:08] <usr13> very good
[19:09] <maze> Hello
[19:10] <lousygarua> kalxas, let me see if I get this right, the installer shows the default xfce installer background but once installed it shows your custom background?
[19:10] <kalxas> lousygarua, yes
[19:10] <pr0ndigy> how do i remove the "CHAT" option from the envelope icon at the top of the screen? i already deleted Empathy
[19:11] <savio> hello guys
[19:11] <usr13> caixa: Part of the problem is that linux distros are so dynamic and updates/upgrades come so rapidly that it is hard for an outside software company to stay perfectly in step with any one distro, (and considering the various versions that each individual may be running at any particular time).
[19:12] <trism> pr0ndigy: then you probably just need to log out/back in, to restart indicator-messages
[19:12] <lousygarua> kalxas, well, I'm not sure what is the name of the installer on xubuntu, maybe try a xubuntu channel or a xfce channel and they might have more ideas. What I think is that the problem is the package for the xfce installer has it's own settings for background/whatever, but I'm not sure what is the name of the installer.
[19:12] <pr0ndigy> trism, i tried that but it's still there
[19:12] <usr13> caixa: And, games are complicated peices of software to begin with.
[19:13] <trism> pr0ndigy: what is: ls /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/
[19:13] <kalxas> ok lousygarua thanks
[19:13] <crackerjackz> which versions of ubuntu come with mono by default?
[19:13] <savio> i was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[19:13] <crackerjackz> for example.. banshee depends on mono...
[19:14] <crackerjackz> tomboy also depends on mono
[19:14] <savio> i like to contribte to ubuntu
[19:14] <xangua> crackerjackz: ubuntu no longers comes with mono or any mono dependant apps, you can still install them
[19:14] <savio> what should i do now?
[19:14] <crackerjackz> xangua, what versions of ubuntu was it that came with mono - i am just curious
[19:15] <ThinkT510> lousygarua: ubiquity is the name of the installer, exactly the same as the ubuntu one
[19:15] <JasperCoenraats> I'm new with Ubuntu. At first I thought I could use my desktop also for links to programmes. But I seem wrong. Is there another function for it? An how can I make a good overview of my programs?
[19:16] <pr0ndigy> trism, gwibber.indicator  pidgin  thunderbird
[19:16] <savio> anyone
[19:17] <elgaton> savio: What is your level of expertise? You could, e.g., improve bug reports, fix bugs, or translate packages
[19:17] <savio> elgaton: i'm kinda newbie to testing
[19:17] <savio> elgaton: but i like to do some testing work
[19:18] <maze> hi
[19:19] <Luig1> Hi. So, I'm looking into buying a laptop, and I've decided that I'm going to get one with an AMD processor and discrete graphics card due to driver support and power management. Comments?
[19:19] <elgaton> savio: OK, you could, for example, test daily ISO images or stable release upgrades
[19:19] <Luig1> For Ubuntu, I mean
[19:19] <lousygarua> ThinkT510, hmm too bad, that guy parted the channel
[19:20] <trism> pr0ndigy: it really shouldn't show up after a restart then, you don't have anything in ~/.config/indicators/ do you?
[19:20] <savio> elgaton: can you expain me?
[19:20] <lousygarua> ThinkT510, So uniquity is the installer and the "try ubuntu" option just launched the appropriate desktop?
[19:20] <Lost_Cause> Luig1: if you aren't to hung up on an amd processor i would go with a thinkpad. they are pretty support and have decent hardware
[19:20] <ThinkT510> lousygarua: yup
[19:20] <lousygarua> ThinkT510, good to know, thanks.
[19:21] <ThinkT510> !info ubiquity | lousygarua
[19:22] <maze> Hi.. Does anyone have any tips on securing Ubuntu?
[19:22] <elgaton> savio: ISO testing is testing Ubuntu ISO images built every day to check that all basic functionalities work, this is especially important before a release takes place.
[19:23] <savio> elgaton: is need to install on hdd or vm
[19:23] <elgaton> savio: A VM is enough in most cases, real hardware is preferred though.
[19:23] <pr0ndigy> trism, where is that?
[19:23] <elgaton> savio: Testing stable release upgrades is a more "ongoing" type of work, you will need to check if fixes proposed for particular bugs are effective and do not impact stability.
[19:24] <savio> elgaton: that is interesting
[19:24] <Luig1> Lost_Cause, thanks for the tip, but I've already identified a well-priced HP laptop and at this point the whole decision is between an Intel i5/Geforce 630m config or AMD A8/Radeon 7730
[19:24] <elgaton> savio: Mind if we continue to chat in private so as to free the channel a bit?
[19:25] <savio> elgaton: k
[19:25] <playman> hello, i'm using a wireless USB mouse, witch suddenly stopped working and when I check the syslog I get this " usb 2-2: reset low speed USB device number 12 using uhci_hcd" I dont get just number 12. any one know what's wrong?
[19:26] <Lost_Cause> Luig1: if it is a new i5 like  i5-3360M i would go with that
[19:27] <compdoc> Luig1, its best to try each one if you can. My gf has an i7 in a laptop, and its slow
[19:28] <Luig1> Will the power management features be supported equally well in both though, Lost_Cause? From what I can tell nvidia optimus tech isn't supported in Linux except through bumblebee etc, whereas AMD's equivalents are fully supported in Catalyst
[19:29] <Luig1> And they're automatic for AMD, especially when using an AMD cpu (not that I have a choice in the matter, this model only comes with intel/nvidia or amd/amd
[19:29] <Lost_Cause> in terms of that amd is better.  but for the most part using the discrete card all the time isn't that big of a difference in power to justify worring about it
[19:29] <Luig1> You mean performance?
[19:29] <Lost_Cause> even with my discrete on i still get 7 hours of battery life
[19:30] <salman> Sound problems
[19:30] <Luig1> Oh, I see
[19:30] <Luig1> Hmm
[19:30] <Lost_Cause> i was trying to say battery life.
[19:30] <Agamemnus> hello, if I wanted to download and install libbfd-2.21.53, what would be the command?
[19:30] <The_BROS> Please, help. I cannot find any extension in Google Chromium what can download video and audio files from sites.
[19:30] <Lost_Cause> their is a huge difference in preformence
[19:30] <trism> pr0ndigy: it probably isn't there by default, it is just another location indicator-messages looks for files (if you didn't add anything there it probably won't be there... ~ is your home directory)
[19:32] <usr13> Agamemnus: sudo apt-get install binutils-dev
[19:32] <salman> Help?
[19:32] <usr13> The_BROS: Try firefox
[19:32] <Agamemnus> hmm, i'll try it
[19:33] <pr0ndigy> trism, it said there was nothing there
[19:33] <Agamemnus> ever since I updated ubuntu (10 min ago) my compiler has stopped working
[19:33] <Agamemnus> thanks
[19:33] <Luig1> Does anyone know if I'd be more likely to see overheating issues with intel/nvidia or amd/amd?
[19:33] <pr0ndigy> does anyone know how to get rid of pidgin's popup notifications?
[19:33] <usr13> Agamemnus: What version?
[19:33] <Agamemnus> I don't know, just the last one.
[19:33] <spinzero> sera a tutti
[19:33] <Luig1> pr0ndigy, I don't know how to do that, but it's probably in the preferences. What version are you on?
[19:33] <usr13> Agamemnus: 12.04?
 I just migrated from Firefox. I was using download helper and now I want to find same at Chromium
[19:34] <Agamemnus> i wouldn't know how to check
[19:34] <caixa> usr13, i never understood why linux distros are released so frequently, why not just make one build and use it for 1-2years then release a new one
[19:34] <usr13> Agamemnus: lsb_release -r
[19:34] <pr0ndigy> Luig1, newest version, and nothing in the preferences that i saw
[19:34] <usr13> caixa: May I pm you?
[19:34] <Agamemnus> I think I need the older version
[19:34] <caixa> usr13, sure
[19:34] <Luig1> pr0ndigy, newest version? What version of Ubuntu are you in, then?
[19:35] <Agamemnus> yes, it's 12.04
[19:35] <Agamemnus> How could I get the older version of binutils, with libbfd-2.21.53?
[19:36] <mental_mickey> Are there any cross platform alternatively to gambas?
[19:36] <savio>  Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[19:36] <mental_mickey> Alternative
[19:36] <savio> what is that
[19:36] <xangua> !coc | savio
[19:36] <mental_mickey> It's a port of vb to linux
[19:37] <Agamemnus> maybe if I just recompile the compiler..
[19:37] <mental_mickey> I'd like to make binaries for multiple platforms
[19:37] <Luig1> mental_mickey, well vb.net has mono. But I generally recommend people *away* from mono
[19:38] <Luig1> No way to be sure those guys won't get sued for implementing windows forms etc
[19:38] <mental_mickey> Mono can make use of c# only
[19:38] <mental_mickey> Already tried that
[19:38] <Luig1> Not if you compile to cil
[19:38] <Luig1> Unless I'm mistaken about the architecture
[19:38] <mental_mickey> I know realbasic but its commercial software
[19:39] <Luig1> What about freebasic then?
[19:39] <Luig1> It's the same on every platform
[19:39] <Agamemnus> I'm using freebasic now
[19:39] <Agamemnus> and I can't get it to compile on 12.04 :|
[19:39] <Luig1> And there's always python if you want that "plain english" feel
[19:39] <Luig1> Though I realize that's not what you were asking for :(
[19:39] <Agamemnus> but i haven't used ubuntu in a while, so i dnno
[19:40] <Agamemnus> trying to find my compiler thread
[19:40] <khaos> hi i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 in my vaio laptop and the brightness keys are not working (fn + f5,f6) but in the live cd the keys worked like a charm. What I must do? Thanks
[19:40] <designbybeck> I still can't believe they are taking way F3/Split Screen in Nautilus, I use that everyday!
[19:40] <pr0ndigy> Luig1, i'm on 12.04
[19:41] <elgaton> Hi
[19:41] <cortexman> my user and group are showing up as integers in ls -hallt
[19:41] <Agamemnus> maybe someone knows
[19:41] <bekks> cortexman: Then its not your user and group :)
[19:42] <mikehaas763> I have a laptop with a radeon mobility hd 4200 series. Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. When I install the proprietary drivers either using Jockey or by using a download from the internet, performance really decreases. Any suggestions?
[19:42] <bekks> cortexman: The only reason for numerics shown there is, that neither the UID nor the GID are defined in /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[19:43] <Agamemnus> any time i try to compile, I get this error: "fbc: error loading shared libraries: libbfd-2.21.53-system.20110810.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:43] <Agamemnus> Any ideas?
[19:44] <bekks> Agamemnus: whats the output of lsb_release -sc ?
[19:44] <Agamemnus> precise
[19:45] <bekks> Agamemnus: Whats this libbfd thing? From where did you install it?
[19:45] <Agamemnus> no idea.
[19:46] <bekks> Agamemnus: Well, then I cant help you much, sorry.
[19:46] <rodj> apt-cach seach for libbfd shows a package:  binutils-dev
[19:46] <Agamemnus> i think it is trying to access an older version
[19:47] <Agamemnus> which I foolishly deleted
[19:47] <rodj> ouch
[19:47] <bekks> On a precise system, there shouldnt be older versions of that library.
[19:50] <rpaddock> I have the following /etc/network/interfaces file (http://pastebin.com/bcLrHMnh). When my machine starts up, it correctly sets the static ip, but dns resolution fails until I ifdown then ifup. How can I fix that?
[19:52] <bekks> rpaddock: Did you check the /etc/resolv.conf yet?
[19:53] <rpaddock> bekks: Yea, it has 2 nameserver entries with the same nameservers
[19:54] <Agamemnus> does anyone know how I can download files from an svn? i don't remember at all
[19:55] <elgaton> Agamemnus: svn checkout <url>
[19:55] <Agamemnus> thank you, i'll try it
[19:56] <Agamemnus> i mean I really don't remember now.... what if it's a GIT thing?
[19:56] <anomaly> is there a bug with the (recommended) nvidia driver?  I did an upgrade of the system and installed the nvidia driver.  now compiz is not loading and it is making the startup login unresponsive.
[19:57] <elgaton> Agamemnus: I think it is "git pull url"
[19:57] <anomaly> I used the ubuntu recommended driver, I did not install the driver from nvidia.com
[19:57] <Agamemnus> that didn't work..... "not a git repository"
[19:58] <Agamemnus> :(
[19:58] <Agamemnus> I typed in: "git pull git://fbc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/fbc/fbc"
[19:58] <trism> Agamemnus: git clone url
[19:59] <Agamemnus> ok, that's doing something.
[19:59] <GreekDollmaker> Greetings.
[20:00] <maze> Hello
[20:00] <numb95> maze: hello
[20:00] <Agamemnus> not really sure where it went though.
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> wowsers
[20:00] <GreekDollmaker> So, Ubuntu.
[20:00] <GreekDollmaker> I heard it is a free Operational System, right?
[20:00] <GreekDollmaker> Right.
[20:01] <Agamemnus> it said "Cloning into 'fbc'", but I don't see fbc anywhere.
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> !ubuntu
[20:01] <maze> Whats a good programming language to make ubuntu apps?
[20:01] <maze> for a beginner
[20:01] <trism> Agamemnus: should be in the current directory
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> maze for a total beginer.. its hard to beat python
[20:02] <bekks> maze: Basically the one you want.
[20:02] <mrdn> GreekDollmaker: it's free, it's operational, and it's a system, so, yes...
[20:02] <Trimer_> phython
[20:02] <numb95> Dr_Willis: please chat with ubottu in private
[20:02] <bmanuel> ruby
[20:02] <numb95> maze: it's hard to say witch language is better
[20:03] <numb95> maze: but i'd prefer python\
[20:03] <JesusMcCloud> can somebody help me to disable the acpi wireless software toggle. editing the corresponding file (ibm-wireless.sh) in /etc/acpi did not do the trick
[20:03] <rez0r> alright
[20:03] <[snake]> elgaton, it's not working :( reading in the file and then writing it out after my other data.
[20:03] <rez0r> i installed xubuntu 12.04
[20:03] <rez0r> from a usb
[20:03] <rez0r> and im trying to install my b43 firmware
[20:04] <rez0r> and the stupid damn thing keeps telling me to put in the xubuntu cdrom
[20:04] <maze> Ok I'll have to give python a try
[20:04] <rez0r> and the usb is in the thing
[20:04] <rez0r> so it wont let me install b43-fwcutter or the bcm sta firmware
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> rez	0r remove the cd from your sources.list
[20:04] <Trimer_> you can write shell scripts too
[20:04] <elgaton> rez0r: Simply remove the CD from Software Sources, then install the b43-fwcutter package from the DVD manually.
[20:05] <Trimer_> and later learn phyton
[20:05] <rez0r> ahh
[20:05] <rez0r> ok
[20:05] <rez0r> hold
[20:05] <balachmar> \j cyanogenmod
[20:05] <balachmar> \j c#yanogenmod
[20:05] <balachmar> \j #cyanogenmod
[20:05] <Pici> balachmar: /join #channel
[20:05] <JesusMcCloud> balachmar, try a shalsh
[20:05] <balachmar> lol :)
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> try a / balachmar
[20:05] <[snake]> elgaton, somehow it's printing out the held_text (from the file originally) first and then the new stuff, but that's not the prder my fprintfs are.
[20:05] <balachmar> sorry
[20:05] <balachmar> so guess where I wanted to go?
[20:06] <rez0r> is there a way to put the taskbar on the bottom?
[20:06] <rez0r> with xubuntu?
[20:07] <Luig1> Yeah
[20:07] <rez0r> like it is with linuxmint
[20:07] <Luig1> Just right click one
[20:07] <Luig1> Panel properties
[20:07] <Luig1> It's all there
[20:07] <designbybeck> I'm trying to render out a video on Kdenlive, on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and it says "Unsupported video codec: libx264"
[20:07] <designbybeck> I can watch h.264 videos on ubuntu
[20:07] <rez0r> nah
[20:07] <Luig1> rez0r, you can also add new panels and plenty of other things
[20:07] <rez0r> horizontal/vertical is there
[20:07] <tech1> what are the "public" and "template" folders meant to be used for in my /home/username directory?
[20:07] <designbybeck> am I missing a package?
[20:08] <rez0r> but it doesnt have an option for top/bottom
[20:08] <UbuntuBoy> How do I establish a lan connection between Ubuntu and Windows 7_
[20:09] <Luig1> rez0r, take it off lock panel
[20:09] <UbuntuBoy> ?*
[20:09] <playman> hello, i'm using a wireless USB mouse, witch suddenly stopped working and when I check the syslog I get this " usb 2-2: reset low speed USB device number 12 using uhci_hcd" I dont get just number 12. any one know what's wrong?
[20:09] <Luig1> rez0r, once it's no longer locked you can drag it wherever you want and lock it in place again
[20:09] <elgaton> [snake]: could you please put the code in a pastebin?
[20:09] <ZerWho> Hi
[20:09] <dr_willis> UbuntuBoy:  you mean have some 'shared' directories ?
[20:09] <Agamemnus> i really really don't remember. I read my own instructions that to compile my compiler I needed to run "make" and then "make install"
[20:09] <UbuntuBoy> Yup.
[20:10] <Agamemnus> but... "no targets specified and no makefile found. Stop."
[20:10] <Agamemnus> Help!
[20:10] <Marikos> Hola
[20:10] <dr_willis> UbuntuBoy:  right click on folder use the 'share' feature is  how to make shares
[20:10] <UbuntuBoy> Or have a complete access to the Windows hd.
[20:10] <rez0r> oh wow
[20:10] <brennan> Can anyone tell me how to watch netflix on this computer?
[20:10] <rez0r> nice
[20:10] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | Agamemnus
[20:10] <elgaton> Agamemnus: seems the makefile is not there - are you sure you do not need to run "./configure" first?
[20:10] <brennan> ??????????????
[20:10] <dr_willis> UbuntuBoy:  the gnome file manager can access windows shares
[20:10] <compdoc> brennan, not possible
[20:11] <brennan> fuck
[20:11] <compdoc> at least not yet.
[20:11] <IdleOne> !language | brennan
[20:11] <[snake]> elgaton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134881/
[20:11] <UbuntuBoy> It's downloading Samba.
[20:11] <rez0r> alright
[20:11] <Agamemnus> elgaton: I don't even remember what I need to download
[20:11] <JesusMcCloud> can somebody help me to disable the acpi wireless software toggle. editing the corresponding file (ibm-wireless.sh) in /etc/acpi did not do the trick (this is a software switch: booting with acpi=off disables this keyboard toggle)
[20:11] <GreekDollmaker> So, about Ubuntu.
[20:11] <brennan> who do i tell compdoc
[20:11] <rez0r> i installed the broadcom sta drivers for linux
[20:11] <brennan> ?
[20:11] <dr_willis> UbuntuBoy:  thats how iwndow shares work on linux. via samba
[20:11] <rez0r> the package
[20:12] <rez0r> and i open 'additional drivers'
[20:12] <rez0r> and still it says no proprietary drivers are installed
[20:12] <Agamemnus> there are 4 versions: the GIT (I downloaded it but I don't know where it went), the standalone compiler, the compiler, and the self-extracting installer.
[20:12] <Marikos> is there a way to install a package from natty on precise? It doesn't exist any further forward than that...
[20:12] <rez0r> also still no wifi
[20:12] <rez0r> should i reboot?
[20:12] <GreekDollmaker> I have Windows 7 installed, can I have it be installed and be alongside it.
[20:12] <elgaton> [snake]: OK, I'm a little busy right now, I'll get back
[20:12] <Agamemnus> the GIT version may have a make file but I don't know where it went.
[20:12] <Luig1> GreekDollmaker, yes
[20:12] <[snake]> elgaton, ok.
[20:12] <Agamemnus> It told me it installed into "fbc", but I don't see any fbc folders.
[20:12] <brennan> ??
[20:12] <Luig1> It's called dual boot GreekDollmaker. wubi is also an option.
[20:13] <GreekDollmaker> Wubi?
[20:13] <dr_willis> wubi is best avoided if you can do a nirmal dual boot
[20:13] <GreekDollmaker> Yeah, about that.
[20:13] <GreekDollmaker> ITs actually a Tri boot.
[20:13] <CannedCorn> hey guys, is really poor performance typical for Ubuntu 12.04 with a recent AMD card
[20:13] <[snake]> it's good if you don't know about dual booting or w/e
[20:13] <GreekDollmaker> I have Windows 98SE installed too.
[20:14] <brennan> is there anyway to run netflix???????????
[20:14] <GreekDollmaker> What's Netflix?
[20:14] <IdleOne> brennan: it is not possible in linux.
[20:14] <rez0r> wth would u have 98se installed for
[20:14] <dr_willis> brennan:  virtialbox+windows in it..
[20:14] <Luig1> rez0r, some things are only compatible with one or the other system, I've heard
[20:14] <brennan> IdleOne who do i tell
[20:14] <brennan> ?
[20:14] <GreekDollmaker> rez0r: Because it can run old PC games.
[20:15] <rez0r> it works on regular ubuntu
[20:15] <IdleOne> brennan: you can either dual boot with windows, or like dr_willis said install windoes in virtualbox and run netflix.
[20:15] <GreekDollmaker> I have older operating systems on VMware, such as Windows 3.1
[20:15] <Luig1> rez0r, I meant having 98se installed
[20:15] <IdleOne> brennan: you don't have to tell anyone, it is pretty much common knowledge
[20:15] <rez0r> oh
[20:15] <GreekDollmaker> But I wanted Windows 98SE for different reasons.
[20:15] <Agamemnus> if there is an install.sh, how can I run that?
[20:15] <brennan> dr_willis, who do i tell to have the bug fixed
[20:15] <dr_willis> brennam what bug?
[20:15] <IdleOne> brennan: it is not a bug, it is by design
[20:15] <brennan> darn
[20:16] <GreekDollmaker> For example, I managed to get System Shock 2 Running on Windows 98.
[20:16] <IdleOne> brennan: email netflix and ask them to support linux.
[20:16] <Luig1> GreekDollmaker, check the installation guides. They can go far more in-depth on dual booting than we can in this channel
[20:16] <Luig1> The guide depends on how you want to install
[20:16] <Monster> once I have done an md5sum check what else shall I do?
[20:16] <Monster> is it safe and not corrupt
[20:16] <GreekDollmaker> Loading was slow at crap and it crashed a few times, but other than that, it was awesome.
[20:16] <GreekDollmaker> I see.
[20:16] <Monster> it says xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso: OK
[20:16] <Monster> so that's fine, rigt?
[20:16] <Monster> I can install it now?
[20:16] <tech1> i have my user folder in "/home/username" but theres lots of folders in this directory already... i want a new empty folder for all my work stuff... i could put it in "/home/username/Documents/workfolder" but its a long path... is it ok to make a new empty folder (/home/workfiles) -or will the system think this is a new user and cause some permission or login problems (if trying to work from this folder logged in from "use
[20:16] <tech1> rname"(/home/username)?
[20:17] <subterfuge> Googlefu has failed me, Have a Logitech M185 Bluetooth mouse that I would like to pair with my intigrated Bluetooth.  I am running Ubuntu 12.04.  Any suggestions on where to start?  I have tried just using the interfaces wizard for setting up new devices, that was a NOGO as it never saw it....
[20:17] <spirit3_> tech1: All your files should live in /home/<username>
[20:17] <dr_willis> tech1:  your files are in your users /home/username/whatever ;)
[20:17] <Monster> what other checks on the ISO do I need to do?
[20:17] <spirit3_> tech1: you can create and use a folder wherever you like
[20:17] <Monster> md5sum, right?
[20:18] <Monster> that's it it says xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso: OK
[20:18] <spirit3_> tech1: however it makes sense to keep everything in your home ditr
[20:18] <kyan> Hi… I was wondering, what would be the causes of a segmentation fault during the cpio creation while building a custom initramfs?
[20:18] <tech1> ok. its just a longer path, so i guess i need to decide between path semantics and path length
[20:18] <UbuntuBoy> Me again.
[20:18] <spirit3_> tech1: there's maybe a solution ...
[20:19] <tech1> what solution
[20:19] <dr_willis>   my keybord cant to a tilda.. heh
[20:19] <spirit3_> tech1: use /home/<username>/Documents/workstuff but create a link from a path you can remember to this ...
[20:19] <UbuntuBoy> I have just installed everything, marked the folder for sharing. Is that it?
[20:19] <K4k> Anyone know of a way that I can specify a shell for my user that is different than the shell specified in my posix attributes on my ldap server?
[20:19] <dr_willis> tilda/directory = /home/yourusername/directory
[20:19] <tech1> oh i see... you mean a shortcut like the java environment variable uses "$HOME" or something
[20:19] <rez0r> i've done everything
[20:19] <UbuntuBoy> Do I have to do anything in Windows?
[20:20] <rez0r> still not showing any proprietary drivers
[20:20] <tech1> ill try that too thanks
[20:20] <spirit3_> tech1: 'man ln' - you probably want to use 'ln -s' ... go research it.  Although, you could as you suggest also use an environment variable for examle $workstuff
[20:21] <spirit3_> tech1: so then cd $workstuff
[20:21] <quesada>  does anyone know an alternative to 'archive.org'? (a site that collects old versions of sites)
[20:21] <spirit3_> tech1: This has never been an issue for me though - I'm not sure whay you'd want to
[20:21] <spirit3_> tech1: you realise /home/user can be abbreviated to ~user ?
[20:21] <Luig1> quesada, google cache
[20:21] <spirit3_> tech1: and with tab completion it rapidly becomes a non-issue
[20:22] <rez0r> i just don't understand why my wifi will work fine on ubuntu 12.04, but has this huge problem with xubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <rez0r> it's the same OS isnt it
[20:23] <tech1> cool ill experiment with them both. thanks :)  .... no i didnt know that either. ill write all this stuff down... will these shortcuts also work for 3rd party programs like development programs linking resources? or only in terminal
[20:23] <rez0r> im gonna try a reboot
[20:23] <rez0r> if my drivers dont work im deleting this crapshoot
[20:23] <Agamemnus> ok, so back to square 1...
[20:23] <spirit3_> rez0r: thats' a weird issue
[20:24] <rez0r> its a bcm4311 wifi card
[20:24] <rez0r> works great in regular ubuntu
[20:24] <Agamemnus> how would I switch from 12.04 "precise" and install libffd-2.21.53?
[20:24] <rez0r> after i manually install the drivers
[20:24] <spirit3_> tech1: yes, the ~ character is a shortcut to your home die
[20:24] <spirit3_> dir
[20:24] <spirit3_> tech1: so you can specify a user ~jon, or you can use the current user ~/Documents (assumes your user)
[20:25] <spirit3_> rez0r: manually installing drivers ... ouch - most cards nowadays work fine without additional drivers
[20:25] <HeavyKevy> Can anyone help me with a JACK issue I'm having?
[20:26] <awliste1234> Howdy all. Need a hand with what is probably something simple I'm missing. Made a bunch of Ubuntu 12.04 VMs. They can all ping default gateway, but can only sometimes ping each other. It's like I have to 'wake' up the network stack on each one and then ping works. I'm at a loss.
[20:26] <tech1> ahh i see. the following isnt the case for me... but what if there was a system where multiple users wanted to access the same resources?
[20:26] <K4k> rez0r: when you say "manually installing drivers..." do you mean you used fwcutter or you installed with aptitude?
[20:27] <rez0r> fwcutter
[20:27] <rez0r> and a tar.bz2 with the broadcom drivers
[20:27] <rez0r> and wl_apsta.o
[20:28] <spirit3_> awliste1234: I probably can't help.  However, what is the host OS and what virtualisation platform are you using>?
[20:28] <K4k> rez0r: does modprobe show it as loaded?
[20:29] <K4k> or is it that you can't install it using that same method?
[20:29] <rez0r> how do i work that function
[20:29] <rez0r> i've done it before but i forget
[20:29] <rez0r> only been using linux for about 2 weeks
[20:29] <compdoc> awliste1234, how many guests? what sort of network setup on the host?
[20:30] <K4k> rez0r: I would do modprobe | grep /what_you're_looking_for/
[20:30] <roxlu> hi I'm using the handy windows ubuntu installer, but can I choose to use 64 bit there?
[20:30] <shazbotmcnasty> Heyyyy, I just installed the newest version of ubuntu via wubi. I'm using three monitors, I cannot see anything in an x session, says "optimal resolution is 1280x1024"
[20:31] <rez0r> i have no clue what im looking for
[20:31] <rez0r> BUT
[20:31] <rez0r> i did a lspci
[20:31] <HeavyKevy> Can anyone help with a problem I'm having with JACK
[20:31] <rez0r> and it shows this :
[20:31] <FloodBot1> rez0r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <rez0r> 03:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/
[20:31] <K4k> ok
[20:31] <shazbotmcnasty> How do I set resolution on ubuntu 12.04 via CLI? I noticed there is no xorg.conf
[20:31] <K4k> one sec
[20:31] <K4k> rez0r: try "lsmod | grep -i broadcom"
[20:32] <rez0r> nothing showed up
[20:32] <OerHeks> !bmc
[20:32] <OerHeks> !bcm
[20:32] <rez0r> i've looked at the help
[20:32] <OerHeks> all you need is " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer  " and reboot
[20:32] <rez0r> that's how i got the apsta program, the drivers, and figured out how to use b43 fwcutter
[20:33] <rez0r> lies
[20:33] <rez0r> that firmware-b43-installer crap is a hoax
[20:33] <deadmund> rez0r: No, he's right.  What is the issue exactly?
[20:33] <rez0r> doesn't work
[20:33] <OerHeks> rez0r, it works fine here.
[20:33] <deadmund> Is your machine connected to the internet in some other way?
[20:33] <rez0r> it is right now
[20:33] <deadmund> It works, I'm VERY sure.
[20:33] <deadmund> rez0r: what if you run sudo modprobe b43   what happens?
[20:33] <deadmund> rez0r: Also, what wifi card is this?
[20:33] <K4k> rez0r: actually, that sounds correct. I've got a 43xx card in here as well (now that I think to look) and I don't recall having to do anything difficult
[20:34] <rez0r> FATAL: Error inserting b43 (/lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko): Operation not permitted
[20:34] <white_magic> can someone tell me where the source code ends up if I run something like 'apt-get install SOMEPACKAGE-src'?
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> broadcom 43xx is the most common
[20:34] <deadmund> rez0r: sudo modprobe b43
[20:34] <deadmund> rez0r: That looks like you just ran modprobe without sudo
[20:34] <rez0r> lol same error
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> white_magic  i guess you want apt-get source
[20:35] <deadmund> rez0r: What card do you have?
[20:35] <deadmund> rez0r: What wifi card*
[20:35] <rez0r> it's a bcm4311
[20:35] <rez0r> broadcom
[20:35] <white_magic> MonkeyDust: where would the source code for that end up?
[20:35] <deadmund> rez0r: It will definitely work.  I have the same card.  Can you run sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer again for me and report if you get any errors?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> white_magic  dunno, i'm not a developper myself
[20:36] <deadmund> rez0r: It should just tell you it is already installed
[20:36] <wylde> white_magic: doing 'apt-get source packagename' will download it to the directory you are currently in.
[20:36] <Agamemnus> does anyone know how I might be able to download and install libbfd-2.21.53, and/or find out the last installed version of it on my system?
[20:36] <rez0r> okay i ran it
[20:36] <white_magic> wylde: thanks
[20:36] <rez0r> didn't report any errors
[20:36] <rez0r> appears to have installed
[20:36] <rez0r> reboot?
[20:37] <deadmund> rez0r: don't reboot
[20:37] <deadmund> rez0r: Did it say it was already installed?
[20:37] <deadmund> rez0r: Or did it install / download stuff?
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> white_magic  "end up" meaning "be downloaded to", now i get it
[20:37] <spirit3_> Agamemnus: Possibly not the best way to do it but 'find /lib -name libbfd*'
[20:37] <spirit3_> or /usr/lib if it may live somewhere in there ...
[20:37] <Agamemnus> i got nothing
[20:37] <GreekDollmaker> You know, I am tempted to try out Ubuntu.
[20:37] <rez0r> nope
[20:37] <OerHeks> rez0r, yes, like the wiki says: reboot after install.
[20:37] <rez0r> 1 newly installed
[20:37] <GreekDollmaker> Problem is, I don't know what to do with it.
[20:38] <deadmund> rez0r: sudo modprobe b43
[20:38] <Agamemnus> the other one worked
[20:38] <deadmund> rez0r: PM if you want.  It's busy in here.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  same thing you did before with your other OS
[20:38] <spirit3_> GreekDollmaker: Sure, it's fantastic.  However it's isn't Windows and there is a learning curve.
[20:38] <wylde> GreekDollmaker: you do whatever you need to use a computer to do.
[20:38] <GreekDollmaker> Can it run Source games?
[20:38] <Agamemnus> second Q:
[20:38] <Agamemnus> I created a symlink, but now I want to undo it.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  you have to learn ubuntu, just like had to learn your current OS
[20:38] <Agamemnus> How can I undo it?
[20:39] <[snake]> does anyone else want to look at my code? it's in C http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134881/
[20:39] <K4k> Agamemnus: unlink
[20:39] <Luig1> GreekDollmaker, yes!
[20:39] <spirit3_> Agamemnus: just delete it (rm <filename>)
[20:39] <Luig1> At least, it will before the year is over
[20:39] <GreekDollmaker> DOes it require programming knowledge? I will learn if it does.
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  no
[20:39] <Luig1> Valve is porting Steam and some games to Ubuntu 12.04 GreekDollmaker
[20:39] <spirit3_> Agamemnus: deleting the link only deletes the link, not the file it's pointing to
[20:39] <GreekDollmaker> Python, Ruby, C++, C# and all other types of C?
[20:39] <Luig1> They'll be released publicly by year's end
[20:39] <GreekDollmaker> Oh
[20:39] <shazbotmcnasty> Heyyyy, I just installed the newest version of ubuntu via wubi. I'm using three monitors, I cannot see anything in an x session, says "optimal resolution is 1280x1024"
[20:39] <shazbotmcnasty> How do I set resolution on ubuntu 12.04 via CLI? I noticed there is no xorg.conf
[20:40] <Agamemnus> I want to delete the link
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  that's for developpers
[20:40] <shazbotmcnasty> my resolution is 3072*1280
[20:40] <wylde> GreekDollmaker: not required to know, but you can most certainly do all the coding on it.
[20:40] <GreekDollmaker> I don't have to rebuy it, right?
[20:40] <Agamemnus> rm doesn't seem to work, says no such file or directory..
[20:40] <GreekDollmaker> Rebuy my old source games.
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  it's free, as in free beer
[20:40] <GreekDollmaker> I know Ubuntu is free.
[20:40] <GreekDollmaker> Thats why I want to try it
[20:40] <bilel> With "telnet localhost 25", it works when I send an email, but with php mail's function it doesn't, even though I have localhost and port 25 configured in my php.ini, I don't get any error message, the mail is just not sent, why?
[20:40] <Agamemnus> I ran this command: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libbfd-2.21.53-system.20110810.so
[20:41] <Agamemnus> That's per http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg3236007.html .... but the last version is just 2.22-system.so
[20:41] <[snake]> bilel, telnet isn't very secure
[20:41] <spirit3_> bilel: is it logged elsewhere?  web/apache error logs?
[20:41] <Agamemnus> so I think I need to do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libbfd-2.21.53-system.20110810.so
[20:41] <Agamemnus> /usr/lib/libbfd-2.22-system.so
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  what's you current OS?
[20:41] <Agamemnus> ......but it won't let me.
[20:41] <GreekDollmaker> Dual boot on Windows 7 and Windows 98SE
[20:42]  * K4k didn't know there was hardware that supported both 98SE and 7...
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  read this, but DON'T try wubi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[20:42] <bilel> spirit3_: no it was just a script launched in cli to test if it works
[20:42] <GreekDollmaker> Recently reformated and had Windows vista upgraded.
[20:42] <[snake]> K4k, how do you do that?
[20:42] <K4k> [snake]: do what?
[20:43] <GreekDollmaker> Write at the start /me and after that stuf
[20:43] <[snake]> K4k, the thing: k4k didn't know that there was harware that supported both 98se and 7
[20:43] <bekks> Agamemnus: ln -s oldfile newname
[20:43] <GreekDollmaker> For example writing "/me wants to make dolls will make this:
[20:43]  * GreekDollmaker wants to make dolls
[20:43]  * [snake] attempted to do the thingy
[20:43] <GreekDollmaker> Also K4K http://www.thpc.info/dual/win7/dualboot_win7+9x_on_win7.html
[20:43] <[snake]> I did it!
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  did you see my link?
[20:43] <GreekDollmaker> Yes
[20:44] <GreekDollmaker> That link I posted shows how to Dual boot Windows 7 and windows 98SE
[20:44] <GreekDollmaker> I will read the manuals to see if I can Multiboot Ubuntu there too.
[20:44] <Agamemnus> bekks: ? I think I tried it.
[20:44] <Agamemnus> but it gives me an error that the file already exists.
[20:45] <[snake]> still here is my code, there is a problem with the order that the fprintfs are showing up when I print it all out. it's in button_press() http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134881/
[20:45] <bekks> Agamemnus: You did: ln -s newname oldfile
[20:45] <Agamemnus> ... even though when I try to use my compiler, the compiler complains that the file DOESN'T exist
[20:45] <Agamemnus> I didn't.
[20:46] <K4k> GreekDollmaker: interesting. Though I was more referring to the notion that there were new drivers for old hardware and vice-versa
[20:46] <GreekDollmaker> Anyways, I want to get into 3D modeeling. Thing is, I want to know if Ubuntu can support, or is a better working enviroment memory wise to do so.
[20:46] <Agamemnus> well
[20:46] <GreekDollmaker> K4K: Mine apparently can do it.
[20:46] <Agamemnus> OK, maybe I did, but now I am not.
[20:46] <GreekDollmaker> Not sure why, I havne't checked on my drivers.
[20:47] <bilel> spirit3_: it's strange because the mail function returns true, where is the mail if I don't receive it? Is there a queue or something?
[20:47] <K4k> GreekDollmaker: as for triple-booting your system. Installing Ubuntu on a seperate drive/partition should install grub which will replace the windows boot loader. Grub is capable of loading both Windows OSs
[20:47] <seabeepirate> hi folks. can anyone help me get my graphics drivers working? I don't even know where to start
[20:47] <K4k> seabeepirate: what graphics card do you have?
[20:47] <GreekDollmaker> k4K: I see.
[20:48] <[snake]> is there a way I can tell which ports an application(server) is running on?
[20:48] <GreekDollmaker> It won't do anything to VMware Boot loader.
[20:48] <seabeepirate> k4k give me a minute I can't remember
[20:48] <Agamemnus> bekks: so, basically, (1) my error when compiling is "fbc: error loading shared libraries: libbfd-2.21.53-system.20110810.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", and I think the new file is called libbfd-2.22-system.so.. any idea on how to fix this?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  there's also this http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[20:48] <GreekDollmaker> Stupid question, thats runs inside windwos 7
[20:48] <K4k> seabeepirate: run lspci | grep VGA. It might tell you
[20:49] <Agamemnus> I'm not even sure if it's looking in usr/lib.
[20:49] <K4k> [snake]: from a remote system or on the system the services are running on?
[20:49] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey so, how do I set my resolution to 3072*1280 in ubuntu 12.04 via cli?
[20:49] <shazbotmcnasty> I tried xrandr, didn't work
[20:49] <shazbotmcnasty> said it could get screen?
[20:50] <[snake]> K4k, the system it's running on
[20:50] <GreekDollmaker> I will propably need to buy a new Hard Drive, I have a 180GB and Spliting that with Windows 7, Windows 98SE, Windows 3.1 and Ubuntu will propably give me smaller space to work with.
[20:50] <lloowen> Hello all! I just installed 'eterm' using ' sudo aptitude install eterm' Looked like something was installed but when I run 'eterm' in the command line, 'eterm' cannot be found!! Do I have to do a restart or something?!
[20:50] <Agamemnus> I can't evens seem to copy properly..... permission denied!
[20:51] <K4k> [snake]: try netstat
[20:51] <deadmund> For others that were helping rez0r  he had b43 blacklisted
[20:51] <K4k> deadmund: ah, that would do it XD
[20:51] <shazbotmcnasty> lloowen: try "find eterm"
[20:51] <deadmund> :)
[20:51] <GreekDollmaker> Question: Is Ubuntu a good enviroment to model in 3D (3DSMax Maya etx)
[20:51] <shazbotmcnasty> Agamemnus: where are you trying to copy stuff to?
[20:51] <GreekDollmaker> Memory wise.
[20:51] <OerHeks> !cookie | deadmund
[20:51] <[snake]> GreekDollmaker, yes and Blender is good too
[20:52] <GreekDollmaker> I want to use Source Filmmaker on Ubuntu actually, it will propably run faster and eat less memory.
[20:52]  * deadmund destroys cookie with fierce mandible.
[20:52] <shazbotmcnasty> heh
[20:52] <seabeepirate> k4k nothing happened when I ran that in terminal. I think it's one of the intel mobile chipsets I'm still looking
[20:52] <GreekDollmaker> I remember they did tests of the Source engine on Linux. It worked better there than on Windows.
[20:52] <GreekDollmaker> After a few fixxes obviously.
[20:52] <K4k> seabeepirate: just running lspci will list everything, you can try manually sifting through the list
[20:52] <shazbotmcnasty> i'm very excited for steam officially coming to linux.
[20:52] <bilel> lloowen: in order to do that you should have something called  eterm on one of the directories when you type echo $PATH
[20:52] <shazbotmcnasty> it's been many years I've envisioned this day
[20:53]  * shazbotmcnasty stares off mountain top 
[20:53] <GreekDollmaker> Wait, If I Tri boot it, does that mean I have to install my games on both Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[20:54] <seabeepirate> k4k intel gma 4500m
[20:54] <Agamemnus> apparently i'm not the owner of usr/lib
[20:54] <lloowen> bilel: I looked in /usr/bin/ but it was not there. It did install as it gave me the yes/no prompt with eterm as the name of the package that was about to be installed.
[20:54] <Agamemnus> any way to make myself the owner of it?
[20:55] <K4k> seabeepirate: that card should work automatically, what's the issue you're having?
[20:55] <GreekDollmaker> I mean, they have different code stractures, so that means I have to install them on Ubuntu too.
[20:56] <seabeepirate> k4k during bootup the screen goes black and doesn't turn back on. I have a work around to make it run but as I understand it, my work around forces generic drivers to be loaded so no games will work for me
[20:57] <j`ey> hey guys. I added a new session to my "Login Screen" options
[20:57] <j`ey> (via a new file in /usr/share/xsessions)
[20:57] <j`ey> but it doesn't show up in gdm :/
[20:57] <j`ey> (event after a gdm restart)
[20:57] <kamran> Hello
[20:57] <kamran> What's up everyone?
[20:58] <GreekDollmaker> kamran: Eh, we are doing fine.
[20:58] <bilel> lloowen: maybe it's installed but you just don't have anything in your path, if you find where it has been installed you'll just have to create a symlink to it in one of your PATH folder I guess
[20:58] <K4k> seabeepirate: is the workaround to put something like "i915.modeset=0" in grub?
[20:58] <Agamemnus> oh my god, finally....... so i just copied the new libffd file with the old name, and changed the permissions of usr/lib so I can do that.... now this stinking thing works :)
[20:58] <seabeepirate> yes
[20:58] <kamran> Thats good
[20:58] <bekks> Agamemnus: OUCH.
[20:59] <trism> j`ey: can you pastebin the .desktop file?
[20:59] <kamran> Does everyone in this channel use Ubuntu?
[20:59] <bekks> Agamemnus: You dont have to touch the permissions of /usr/lib at all.
[20:59] <seabeepirate> k4k I forgot to mention this is a 64 bit system
[20:59] <bekks> Agamemnus: Just use sudo cp next time.
[20:59] <j`ey> trism: im not at that computer currently, but I just took the gnome one, and changed the exec path to dwm
[20:59] <K4k> seabeepirate: right, that's going to foce it to load the generic driver. I've had this issue before on another system, I'm trying to dig up what I did for it (hopefully it wasn't the modeset=0 workaround)
[20:59] <Agamemnus> oh, I think I remember now about that, thanks
[20:59] <trism> j`ey: did you change the name too?
[20:59] <bekks> Agamemnus: Did you change the permissions back to what they've been before?
[20:59] <j`ey> trism: yep
[21:00] <Agamemnus> no, I don't know what they are. I was going to ask
[21:00] <Agamemnus> what are they?
[21:00] <bekks> Agamemnus: what are they now, on your box?
[21:00] <seabeepirate> k4k haha thanks. btw I used modset=1 but it has the same effect I think.
[21:00] <Nikon> AaronMT, AaronCampbell, aaas, a_p3rson, A_J_, aboudreault, abhinav_singh, Aaton_off hi
[21:00] <Agamemnus> random guess of 644
[21:00] <trism> j`ey: you didn't copy the "Hidden=true" one did you?
[21:00] <bekks> Agamemnus: Which command did you run, exactly?
[21:00] <j`ey> trism: hm, i dont think so
[21:00] <AaronMT> Please don't ping random people.
[21:00] <bekks> 644 does not enable write permissions for normal users.
[21:00] <j`ey> trism: not currently on the machine in question
[21:00] <trism> j`ey: because here, gnome.desktop has that line
[21:00] <martinphone> how do I change permissions for a whole HDD from root to me?
[21:01] <Trimer__> Does anyone know why "sudo /sbin/ifconfig" must run 2 times in a shell script, that the shell shows me the network configuration?
[21:01] <Agamemnus> I saw someone say 644 worked, then I used 777 because that didn't work.... then back to 644
[21:01] <j`ey> trism: oh..
[21:01] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/amazing/awesome-man-caves/
[21:01] <Kitar|st> nice
[21:01] <dudewhat> chown
[21:01] <j`ey> trism: I hope I didnt :P
[21:01] <j`ey> trism: oh, you may be talking about 12.04?
[21:01] <j`ey> im on 10.04
[21:01] <bekks> Agamemnus: Well, and using which command?
[21:01] <Agamemnus> I ran: "sudo chmod 644 /usr/lib"
[21:01] <dudewhat> sudo chmod 644 /usr/lib/*
[21:01] <bekks> Agamemnus: So you used sudo chmod but you did not use sudo cp? Odd.
[21:01] <trism> j`ey: those are my only ideas that this point, without actually looking at the file
[21:02] <Agamemnus> google :)
[21:02] <seabeepirate> k4k if you find it can you message me in a private window?
[21:02] <Agamemnus> what is it supposed to be?
[21:02] <bekks> !danger | dudewhat
[21:02] <j`ey> trism: ok, thanks, I'll double check tomorrow
[21:02] <Agamemnus> 444? 004?
[21:02] <j`ey> trism: i might just resort to bypassing gdm, and starting a new xserver
[21:02] <bekks> Agamemnus: NO. DONT touch the permissions.
[21:02] <bekks> Agamemnus: Use sudo.
[21:02] <Agamemnus> but I already did
[21:02] <Agamemnus> so what should it be?
[21:02]  * rez0r wifi's with ease
[21:02] <dudewhat> chown?
[21:02] <rez0r> :D
[21:02] <bekks> Agamemnus: 644
[21:02] <trism> j`ey: I don't see why it wouldn't work, I always create a ratpoison.desktop file
[21:02] <K4k> seabeepirate: switch the private window, I think I've got your fix
[21:02] <Agamemnus> ah, okay, thanks
[21:03] <j`ey> trism: like I said, shows up in the login screen settings, so I dont know why not in gdm :)
[21:03] <jpds> How is he suppose to access the directory when it's not +x?
[21:03] <bekks> jpds: ack.
[21:03] <jpds> Agamemnus: 744.
[21:03] <bekks> 755
[21:03] <deadmund> rez0r: You there?
[21:03] <jpds> bekks: That's rw-, not r-x.
[21:03] <bekks> Using 744, only root will be able to access that directory.
[21:04] <Agamemnus> okay.
[21:04] <bekks> jpds: 5 means: r-x
[21:04] <dudewhat> I'm not used to running ubuntu as a non root account
[21:04] <bekks> jpds: 4 means rw
[21:04] <shazbotmcnasty> Does anyone here know how to change the resolution to three monitors 3072*1280 via cli? xrandr said it couldn't get the screen. I also noticed there is no xorg.conf
[21:04] <bekks> err. 4 means ro
[21:04] <bekks> 6 means rw.
[21:04] <shazbotmcnasty> idk wat to do \o/
[21:04] <jpds> bekks: Right.
[21:04] <Agamemnus> I think 755 is better because 744 doesn't let me compile for some reason.
[21:04] <rez0r> yeah
[21:07] <Agamemnus> totally noob question now:
[21:07] <wlodpolm2> why are you compiling in usr/lib?
[21:07] <Agamemnus> I compiled it, but if I run it, it doesn't run
[21:07] <Agamemnus> I'm not.
[21:07] <dudewhat> ln -s it to /usr/bin
[21:07] <Agamemnus> the file is named "compilescripts".... how do I run it in the command line?
[21:07] <bekks> "./compilescripts"
[21:07] <Agamemnus> aha, thanks
[21:08] <Agamemnus> aha, math parser.bi is missing.
[21:08] <Trimer__> Does anyone know why "sudo /sbin/ifconfig" must run 2 times in a shell script, that the shell shows me the network configuration?
[21:09] <dudewhat> what
[21:09] <usr13> Trimer__: Yea... what?
[21:09] <spirit3_> Trimer__: An error in the shell script perhaps?
[21:09] <Agamemnus> Success!
[21:10] <awliste1234> any ubuntu network gurus got a moment to help me out with an issue?
[21:11] <antonio_> hi all.
[21:11] <dudewhat> define guru
[21:11] <deadmund> awliste1234: Just ask your question :)
[21:11] <Trimer__> no error the script runs, but "sudo /sbin/ifconfig" must run 2 times, that i see the network configuration in the terminal
[21:11] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Something is clearly not right!
[21:12] <Bodsda> Trimer__: care to paste your script?
[21:12] <antonio_> I want to enable the touchpad on my thinkpad t60..is there some one who can help me?
[21:12] <awliste1234> Got 6 VMs. All loaded Ubuntu 12.04. All can ping out to the big internet, no problems. In the local segment, pings are intermittent from one host to another.
[21:12] <antonio_> thank you..
[21:12] <Trimer__> if i use "sudo /sbin/ifconfig" nothing will happen
[21:12] <awliste1234> It's like the network interfaces are going to sleep.
[21:12] <Trimer__> yeah i can post the script, but it's very long
[21:13] <dudewhat> are they on the same subnet?
[21:13] <awliste1234> When I come in via console and make some noise, they wake up.
[21:13] <awliste1234> yup.
[21:13] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Are you sure the script isn't waiting for a password to sudo?
[21:13] <usr13> Trimer__: so...
[21:13] <spirit3_> Are you in sudoers?
[21:13] <awliste1234> tcpdump shows me ARPs
[21:13] <dudewhat> are you using a switch?
[21:13] <Bodsda> !pastebin | Trimer__
[21:13] <dudewhat> could be the collision domains
[21:13] <awliste1234> It's like I can't get consistent L3 comms.
[21:13] <awliste1234> yup.
[21:13] <usr13> Trimer__: Maybe it needs to be just /sbin/ifconfig
[21:14] <usr13> Trimer__: Who is this script run by?
[21:14] <awliste1234> collision domains?
[21:14] <usr13> Trimer__: What is it for?  Where is it?
[21:14] <awliste1234> it's a switched network fabric.
[21:14] <dudewhat> thats what I thought
[21:14] <Trimer__> yes the script isn't waiting for a password                     and   i'm in the sudoers file
[21:15] <Trimer__> @usr13  it's for network configuration and for samba
[21:15] <usr13> Trimer__: It has to be waiting for a password, if it's  sudo
[21:15] <dudewhat> are you using RIP or static routes?
[21:15] <awliste1234> not routing at all. Flat network segment.
[21:15] <awliste1234> 1 VLAN.
[21:15] <antonio_> i am new here..how i can get some help?
[21:15] <awliste1234> 1 subnet. 6 hosts and a gateway.
[21:15] <Bodsda> usr13: only the first time, anytime after that for 5 minutes will not prompt for password
[21:15] <bekks> antonio_: By just asking :)
[21:16] <usr13> Trimer__: Maybe it needs to be 2 scripts and one calles the other.
[21:16] <yki> hi there
[21:16] <antonio_> ok
[21:16] <spirit3_> Trimer__: If you surround a single ifconfig with 'echo' statements, do they get executed?  I can only think something weird is going on ...
[21:16] <usr13> Bodsda: Right, but at some point, a password needs to be supplied, so using sudo in a script is a problem
[21:16] <antonio_> i have thinkpad t60 and I want to enable the touchpad
[21:17] <antonio_> on ubuntu 12.4
[21:17] <Trimer__> @usr yes but the is a command with sudo before  it runs sudo /sbin/ifconfig
[21:17] <Bodsda> usr13: using sudo to run ifconfig is pointless in itself
[21:17] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Do you need to use sudo?  ifconfig should return everything you need without it?
[21:17] <usr13> Bodsda: Yep
[21:17] <Agamemnus> my compiled program doesn't work, I think something to do with new files again.
[21:17] <dudewhat> once all the devices have pinged each other they should cache the arp
[21:18] <yki> I've got a question.. why is /dev smaller than / or any other folder??
[21:18] <Trimer__> @spirit3 i need sudo because the rights
[21:18] <th0r> antonio_: I don't know about the thinkpad specifically, but look into a command called 'synclient'. I have used it on numerous laptops to control/modify touchpad behaviour
[21:18] <dudewhat> can't you just run the script as root?
[21:18] <Trimer__> if i run it with out nothing will happen
[21:18] <usr13> Trimer__: To do what?   What are you calling ifconfig to do?
[21:18] <spirit3_> yki: /dev is ... not real :)
[21:18] <Agamemnus> warning: using '.....' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking blah blah blah
[21:19] <Agamemnus> any ideas?
[21:19] <antonio_> thank you..
[21:19] <yki> not real?
[21:19] <Bodsda> Trimer__: just pastebin your script please
[21:19] <Bodsda> yki: its a vfs
[21:19] <spirit3_> yki: it's a virtual filesystem that just contains links to devices (for example, a pointer to your disks, printers, etc)
[21:19] <usr13> Trimer__: Bodsda is right, we don't know what we are talking, it is all retorical at this point.
[21:20] <yki> thank you very much
[21:20] <usr13> *rhetorical*
[21:20] <spirit3_> Trimer__: but also, ifconfig should return everything you need (at least under ubuntu) without sudo
[21:20] <awliste1234> it's like the arp is going stale very quickly though.
[21:20] <dudewhat> have you checked the arp tables?
[21:21] <awliste1234> I got an idea. Thanks man.
[21:21] <Trimer__> there's the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/1135002/
[21:21] <dudewhat> I would be using atleast 2-3 vlans if I was you
[21:22] <spirit3_> dudewhat: networking should work without vlans though?!
[21:23] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Which line is it causing problems?
[21:23] <dudewhat> with 6 hosts
[21:23] <Trimer__> sudo /sbin/ifconfig should only show the network config
[21:23] <Trimer__> line 12
[21:23] <bekks> dudewhat: Wasting 3 VLANs for 6 vms - is suboptimal.
[21:23] <Bodsda> Trimer__: works fine for me, shows standard ifconfig output
[21:23] <dudewhat> well when you have a cisco switch..
[21:24] <spirit3_> Trimer__: It is the first time sudo is used ... which does make me think it's waiting for a password ... but I understand you say you're in sudoers
[21:24] <W4sp> Trimer__: Is line 1 correctly pasted? '#! /bin/sh' there should be no space between '!' and '/'.
[21:24] <bekks> dudewhat: Even a cisco router wont turn that pointless idea into something good :)
[21:24] <Bodsda> Trimer__: it also works without sudo in there for me
[21:24] <jakub> elgaton, Hi again. I still fight with java on my lubuntu and chromium. I remove all java versions and then install openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Plugin is enabled in web browser but i cant pass test on java page. There is bussy indicator for 20 sec and white content appear.
[21:24] <spirit3_> Trimer__: However, our point is valid; you could not use sudo and it would still return the same info
[21:24] <dudewhat> why wouldn't you want less broadcast domains?
[21:25] <spirit3_> Trimer__: The problem may then move to the next sudo ... if our guess about password is correct
[21:25] <dudewhat> spirit3_ just run the script as root
[21:25] <Bodsda> spirit3_: the script works fine
[21:25] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Sorry, I missed the first sudos ... ignore me ...
[21:26] <elgaton> jakub: Just out of curiosity, does it work with another browser, like Firefox or rekonq?
[21:26] <OMGUBUNTU> hey you all
[21:26] <Trimer__> if i run the script, it shows me no network devices
[21:26] <wlodpolm2> jakub jdk and jde are different
[21:26] <W4sp> Walther: Trimer__ make the script executable, change line 1 as suggested and remove the sudo in the script. Run the script with sudo ./script.
[21:26] <wlodpolm2> er jre
[21:26] <elgaton> Hi
[21:27] <bekks> dudewhat: Because 6 hosts are almost nothing, in terms of broadcast domains. So there is no need to put every vm into a vlan just to reduce broadcasts.
[21:27] <bekks> dudewhat: Thats pointless.
[21:27] <Bodsda> Trimer__: after following W4sp's suggestion, the /sbin/ifconfig in the script will run the same as when run 'by hand' (if run by the same user)
[21:27] <W4sp> Walther: Sorry, I expanded the wrong nick. :-(
[21:27] <Trimer__> if i run sudo /sbin/ifconfig  2 times it shows the network devices
[21:27] <jakub> wlodpolm2, what you mean?
[21:27] <Bodsda> Trimer__: can you show us the terminal output for that... from nothing through both runs to a blank prompt
[21:28] <wlodpolm2> jdk is the dev tools the runtime environment is different download i thought
[21:29] <elgaton> wlodpolm2, jakub: jakub just wants to install the plugin (it requires only the JRE, that is, the set of files required to run a Java application or applet). He doesn't need to install the JDK (developer tools).
[21:29] <Trimer__> only loopback appears
[21:29] <Trimer__> lo        Link encap:Lokale Schleife             inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0           inet6-Adresse: ::1/128 Gültigkeitsbereich:Maschine           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metrik:1           RX packets:4946 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:4946 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:0            RX-Bytes:554408 (554.4 KB)  TX-Bytes:55440
[21:29] <jakub> elgaton, i'll try with another browser now and i'll let you know
[21:29] <elgaton> jakub: OK
[21:29] <dudewhat> run ifconfig -a
[21:29] <Bodsda> Trimer__: pastebin dude... and we need everything, a complete copy and paste of your terminal session
[21:31] <Trimer__> @dudewhat if i run ifconfig -a alle network devices appears, but ifconfig work not in the script
[21:32] <Agamemnus> warning: using 'xyz' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking"
[21:32] <Agamemnus> how to fix this?
[21:33] <bekks> Agamemnus: By not linking statically.
[21:34] <Agamemnus> well, i need to link statically.
[21:34] <dudewhat> do /usr/sbin/ifconfig -a
[21:34] <GreekDollmaker> What was that program that simulated that universe name was?
[21:34] <bekks> Agamemnus: Then you have to live with that warning.
[21:35] <Agamemnus> K
[21:36] <Trimer__> @dudewhat if i run with "sudo /sbin/ifconfig -a" it works     thanks
[21:37] <spirit3_> Trimer__: Weird :s
[21:37] <bekks> Trimer__: You dont need the sudo. All you need is the full path to ifconfig
[21:37] <dudewhat> np
[21:37] <Bodsda> Trimer__: seriously, drop the sudo
[21:37] <Trimer__> but if i run it with "sudo /sbin/ifconfig" it doesn't work at first time
[21:37] <bekks> Trimer__: Not the difference between ifconfig and ifconfig -a
[21:38] <bekks> *Note
[21:38] <Trimer__> i know but without -a it will not work
[21:38] <bekks> Then drop that sudo and use /sbin/ifconfig -a
[21:39] <Bodsda> Trimer__: using -a is fine, but the sudo is unneeded
[21:39] <harris> how do i burn an iso in ubuntu
[21:39] <Bodsda> harris: with brasero
[21:39] <shazbotmcnasty> Does anyone here know how to change the resolution to three monitors 3072*1280 via cli? xrandr said it couldn't get the screen. I also noticed there is no xorg.conf
[21:39] <harris> is that preinstalled
[21:39] <Bodsda> harris: yep
[21:39] <harris> thanks
[21:40] <harris> i need to make an ubuntu disk
[21:40] <Bodsda> shazbotmcnasty: creating an xorg.conf will still work though, but my suggestion would have been xrandr
[21:40] <Trimer__> @Bodsda i will using it with -a   and don't run it with sudo       thanks
[21:40] <escott> shazbotmcnasty, you can try and force a modeline with xrandr
[21:40] <Bodsda> Trimer__: cool :)
[21:40] <jakub> elgaton, with firefox java works fine...
[21:40] <shazbotmcnasty> Could I get the full syntax?
[21:40] <shazbotmcnasty> I think I might just be doing it wrong..
[21:40] <shazbotmcnasty> I read dah man pages...
[21:41] <elgaton> jakub: Let me search - it seems Chromium is not really fine with the Java plugin
[21:42] <pete_> fuck you in the ass
[21:42] <pete_> faggtots
[21:42] <pete_> faggots
[21:42] <Guest74944> faggots
[21:42] <FloodBot1> pete_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <Guest74944> faggots
[21:42] <Guest74944> fasggots
[21:42] <FloodBot1> Guest74944: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <Guest74944> gayb sex in yourass
[21:42] <linux_probe> a poor troll, how novel
[21:42] <Guest74944> ass
[21:42] <elgaton> !language | Guest74944
[21:44] <elgaton> jakub: No idea then, OpenJDK should be compatible with Chromium. Can you open "about:plugins" in Chromium and see if the plugin is listed there?
[21:44] <protoCall7> Hi all, has anyone ever had any problems with installing kernel modules while running ubuntu as a xen guest?  they appear to be installing to /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 instead of /lib/modules/3.2.0-32-generic (ubuntu 12.04 server LTS)
[21:44] <jakub> yes, it is
[21:44] <jakub> elgaton, yes, it is
[21:45] <elgaton> jakub: No idea then... sorry
[21:45] <jakub> elgaton, ok, thank you for your time, be
[21:46] <iceroot> protoCall7: ?
[21:46] <protoCall7> iceroot, which part are you questioning? :)
[21:46] <iceroot> protoCall7: you have to use modules which fits to your xen-kernel which is amd64 and you are using i386
[21:47] <martinphone> i need help with sudo umount /path/to/drive
[21:47] <martinphone> sudo tune2fs -m 0
[21:47] <protoCall7> iceroot: root@admin-svn-001:/lib/modules# uname -a
[21:47] <protoCall7> Linux admin-svn-001 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:47] <iceroot> protoCall7: ok
[21:47] <GreekDollmaker> My god.
[21:47] <GreekDollmaker> Does Space Engine run on ubuntu?
[21:47] <escott> martinphone, ok. what part of that do you need help with
[21:47] <protoCall7> so I guess where I'm lost is on the interaction between xen and its guest
[21:48] <seabeepirate> can anyone tell me how to open files with root access?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  what's space engine?
[21:48] <martinphone> I have now 3 HDD connected via usb, but im afraid if I execute sudo tune2fs -m 0 (I have unmounted the new HDD) it may do something to the other HDD, given that in this second command there is nothing indicating the path to the HDD
[21:48] <elgaton> seabeepirate: sudo nano path_to_file, if you mean "edit files as root"
[21:48] <seabeepirate> thanks
[21:49] <escott> martinphone, it needs to be tune2fs blah blah /dev/sdX#
[21:49] <GreekDollmaker> MonkeyDust: Its a program that lets you simulate the universe.
[21:49] <GreekDollmaker> All of it.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  there's Stellarium
[21:49] <GreekDollmaker> You can render every star in the sky, explore every planet in detail.
[21:49] <GreekDollmaker> All the galaxies.
[21:49] <GreekDollmaker> Every single atom of it.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  try Stellarium
[21:50] <martinphone> escott, tune2fs -m 1 /media/Volume-4
[21:50] <martinphone> escott, but then, first command is useless...
[21:50] <GreekDollmaker> I don't think stellarium is that good with that.
[21:50] <GreekDollmaker> Space Engine looks epic.
[21:50] <gh0st`> how do I get LAMP set up on ubuntu?
[21:50] <iceroot> gh0st`: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[21:51] <iceroot> protoCall7: my "fix" was always to install the xen kernel meta-package on the guest, because of that the correct modules are always pulled too
[21:51] <spirit3_> gh0st`: install Apache, MySQL and ... errr ... P ... is that PHP?  I forget.
[21:51] <bekks> Perl :)
[21:51] <Bodsda> spirit3_: php, python, perl
[21:51] <protoCall7> fantastic, thanks iceroot I'll give that a shot
[21:52] <escott> martinphone, no. you unmount it, then tune2fs the umounted partition by device label
[21:52] <protoCall7> bekks:  +1 :-P
[21:52] <gh0st`> php, thank you
[21:52] <iceroot> bekks: -1 :)
[21:52] <spirit3_> bekks/bodsda thanks :)
[21:52] <GreekDollmaker> Space engine can render supermassive black holes
[21:52] <bekks> iceroot: I could have said prolog ;)
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> GreekDollmaker  ok, but tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:53] <GreekDollmaker> Oh yes.
[21:53] <GreekDollmaker> Sorry.
[21:53] <iceroot> bekks: much better then this "write only" thing perl :)
[21:53] <bekks> iceroot: :D
[21:53] <elgaton> [snake]: had a look at the code, I think you need to do a rewind(fptr) before printing into the file with fprintf
[21:53] <protoCall7> iceroot:  you can write unreadable code in anything haha
[21:53] <escott> martinphone, so run "mount" and figure out what the correct /dev entry is. then umount and run tune2fs on that
[21:54] <martinphone> escott, oh, you mean sdc1 or sdc2, not "volume4"
[21:54] <iceroot> protoCall7: but you can not write readable code with perl :)
[21:54] <escott> martinphone, yep
[21:54] <bonny_> Is it possible to install F.E.A.R combat on linux?
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> bonny_:  that a windows app?
[21:54] <iceroot> !appdb | bonny_
[21:54] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: its a windows game
[21:55] <martinphone> bonny, if thats a windows game, ask in winehq
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  see the wine app database mentioned above
[21:55] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: yes, i pulled it out :)
[21:56] <bonny> Hey is it possiblOk..
[21:56] <bonny> nvm
[21:56] <iceroot> bonny: read the appdb link
[21:56] <iceroot> bonny: also you can try the program "playonlinux"
[21:57] <[snake]> elgaton, what does rewind() do?
[21:57] <elgaton> [snake]: It sets the file pointer back to the start of the file
[21:57] <protoCall7> ice root were you using the stacklet kernels?
[21:57] <spirit3_> I seem to have avoided the dip in the market the last few years
[21:57] <iceroot> protoCall7: i am using the normal i386 kernel here, i am not using xen
[21:58] <protoCall7> i meant the guest kernels you were referring to above
[21:58] <iceroot> protoCall7: ah ok, i am installing the real xen-kernel on the guest
[21:58] <spirit3_> Talking to agencies asking if their 250/day (London) rates are a joke, they say that's normal ... they have good people happy to take them ...
[21:58] <iceroot> protoCall7: the kernel is not used, its taken from the host but the needed modules are pulled
[21:58] <protoCall7> Ahh, i see, thx
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> !ot| spirit3_
[21:59] <Relondo> How can I remount a drive as read/write?
[21:59] <[snake]> elgaton, it didn't fix it. :(
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> Relondo:  mount -o rw /dev/whatever /whever   I belive
[21:59] <dudewhat> umount
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> theres a remount option i think.
[22:00] <Relondo> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> id say check the mount man page also. I forget the syntax for  the remount option
[22:01] <[snake]> elgaton, now it's only posting the new data when I write stuff into it.
[22:01] <elgaton> [snake]: OK, what do you want the code to do precisely?
[22:01] <bekks> Dr_Willis: -o remount,rw
[22:01] <Relondo> Dr_Willis: Okay.
[22:02] <[snake]> elgaton. there will be a file that says(for example): hello.
[22:02] <[snake]> elgaton, I want to put stuff before that like this: new data\nhello
[22:03] <[snake]> elgaton, like append, but before
[22:03] <[snake]> prepend isn't a word but I want to prepend stuff to a file
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> sed and awk are often used for 'alterning' text files..
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> or bash redirection can do it.. if its  a simple case.
[22:03] <dudewhat> more for altering the output of text files
[22:04] <subterfuge> Googlefu has failed me, Have a Logitech M185 Bluetooth mouse that I would like to pair with my intigrated Bluetooth.  I am running Ubuntu 12.04.  Any suggestions on where to start?  I have tried just using the interfaces wizard for setting up new devices, that was a NOGO as it never saw it....
[22:04] <dudewhat> cat file.derp | awk '{ print $1 $2 }' >> new.derp
[22:05] <elgaton> subterfuge: Did you encounter problems when choosing the pairing code?
[22:05] <DarkAceZ> okay, I finally got me a live CD, anyone want to help me do a grub recovery?
[22:05] <tbrock> hey guys, do you know why .bashrc isn't being sourced on login
[22:05] <elgaton> [snake]: Strange. Will have a look at it tomorrow, seems fine at a first glance
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> !grub > DarkAceZ
[22:06] <[snake]> elgaton, I know, I think that it should work but idk...
[22:06] <elgaton> [snake]: I'll have a look at it
[22:07] <Myr> How can I reset the panels (desktop) in 10.10?
[22:07] <joseph-soares> I've just installed mysql and add an user to a database using GRANT to give permissions, but I can't access mysql monitor using this new user.
[22:08] <subterfuge> elgaton: I have tried several variations on the PIN that is listed on the bottom of the device
[22:08] <W4sp> tbrock: bash reads your .profile and .bash_login after /etc/profile is read.
[22:08] <elgaton> subterfuge: No idea then
[22:08] <tbrock> why are all the ubuntu defaults like color prompt and whatnot stored in bashrc
[22:08] <tbrock> ?
[22:08] <W4sp> tbrock: .bashrc is read if it is not a login shell.
[22:08] <subterfuge> elgaton: it is printed as 810-002192 I have tried the whole thing, just the 002192 and the 2192
[22:09] <iceroot> joseph-soares:  can you connect to mysql using "mysql -u username -p"
[22:09] <tbrock> when you start a terminal though its always a login shell right?
[22:09] <DarkAceZ> but cfhowlett and mrgenixu1 were helping me... I need someone to hold my hand, if you get the drift
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> tbrock:  xterm -ls  ---> is a login shell..
[22:09] <vaks> www.google.com will hold your hand
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> tbrock:  initial login is normally a login shell. or from the console i belive.
[22:09] <W4sp> tbrock: It needs to be specified that the xterm/shell shall be treated as a login shell.
[22:09] <elgaton> subterfuge: Are you sure that's not a serial number? Bluetooth passcodes are generally shorter (they are at a maximum 16 numbers in length, generally they are 4 or 8 numbers long). Try "0000", "1234" and "12345".
[22:10] <joseph-soares> iceroot, I can connect using root only
[22:10] <joseph-soares> iceroot, or if I do not put any user
[22:11] <joseph-soares> iceroot, I've get this behavior just after upgrade to latest Ubuntu version.
[22:11] <subterfuge> elgaton: will do, I have also tried the automatic option but no devices are even listed at this point
[22:12] <elgaton> subterfuge: try also to make sure the device is visible (there should be a key on its bottom)
[22:12] <ripthejacker> hi guys
[22:13] <ripthejacker> is it possible to use my netbook as a wireless nic for my desktop?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> How is your netbook getting to the internet?
[22:14] <ripthejacker> ethernet
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[22:14] <ripthejacker> pppoe
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> since you have 2 network devices. ;) yes.
[22:15] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis, do i need a network cable or is there a more common way?
[22:15] <bekks> ripthejacker: since your pc doesnt have a wireless adapter, you'll need a cable.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> The Netbook is connected via WIRED to the internet? or wireles?
[22:16] <antonio_> hi
[22:17] <antonio_> do you know how to enable touchpad on thinkpad t60? tried synclient no luck
[22:17] <antonio_> thank you
[22:17] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis, actually i want to use netbook to create a wireless network
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  so your other pc has a wireless card?
[22:17] <subterfuge> elgaton: I have opened up everything, looked under everything and googled "how to make logitech M185 visible" with no joy, thoughts?
[22:17] <ripthejacker> my desktop is connected to internet
[22:18] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis, no
[22:18]  * Dr_Willis thinks this needs to be started over from the beginning....
[22:18] <ripthejacker> internet comes to my pc via ethernet
[22:18] <ripthejacker> goes to netbook via cable
[22:19]  * Dr_Willis wonders how cable and etenrnet are differnt...
[22:19] <usr13> ripthejacker: Not doable. Since your netbook's wifi device more-than-likely does not support AP mode.
[22:19] <ripthejacker> and then to my phone if its possible by reverse tether or something
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> ripthejacker  cable = ethernet
[22:19] <ripthejacker> usr13, is it not possible by ad hoc?
[22:19] <usr13> ripthejacker: Yes, it is, one-on-one
[22:20] <ripthejacker> that will do i have just one android phone
[22:20] <ripthejacker> MonkeyDust, yes
[22:20] <ripthejacker> i dont know but all of a sudden i feel like a network noob o.O
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> ripthejacker  the internet cable is RJ11, ethernet is RJ45
[22:21] <dudewhat> you can setup a hostapd
[22:21] <joseph-soares> iceroot, I got it. I should run "sudo mysql_secure_installation"
[22:22] <joseph-soares> iceroot, thanks
[22:23] <ripthejacker> MonkeyDust, the cable used for lan and stuff.I think its rj45
[22:23] <Bliepo> I have a problem installing Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. Tried desktop with USB -> hangs. alternate with usb -> hangs. alternate with cd -> hangs (even faster). I tried using different usb drives. Could someonle please help me?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> Bliepo:  how are you making the usb? and whats the pc specs.
[22:24] <ripthejacker> usr13, so is it possible?
[22:24] <tech1> does your system meet required specs?
[22:24] <Bliepo> Dr_Willis: I used Universal usb installer
[22:24] <usr13> ripthejacker: No, it is possible.
[22:24] <ripthejacker> usr13, ?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> Bliepo:  what exactly does it do when it 'hangs'
[22:24] <usr13> ripthejacker: It is not impossible. It is possible
[22:25] <ripthejacker> no or possible?
[22:25] <Bliepo> Dr_Willis: Specs: CPU core i7 @ 3.4Ghz, Sapphire Radeon HD 7800, 8GB RAM
[22:25] <ripthejacker> usr13, ok :)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Bliepo:  ATi video? tried the NOMODESET option yet?
[22:25] <Bliepo> Dr_Willis: nothing at all, I also can't witch to console using Ctrl + alt + F
[22:25] <Bliepo> Dr_Willis: not yet
[22:25] <Bliepo> Will try that, thanks
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Bliepo:  nothing at all? what Does it do? shows a splash? a flashing cursor?
[22:27] <Bliepo> Dr_Willis: It depends, in alternate usijng USB, it would sometimes hang at detecting cd-rom. Then it hang at detecting HDD's and then when installing the base system.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> So the installer actual started then Hung? thats after you got to the desktop?
[22:27] <Bliepo> Although, when it failed at installing the base system it didn't hang. It just reported it failed and ended the install.
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> sounds like ther may be some deeper and possibly hardware issues going on..  as a test you could try some non-ubuntu disrtos and see if any of those work. Such as tiny-core-linux (10mb)
[22:28] <Bliepo> But I'll try the nomodeset and report back later
[22:29] <Bliepo> k
[22:30] <lima> hi. i want to install ubuntu,solaris and windows on the same hard. in what order should i install them? i know you have to install windows first...
[22:30] <Linix> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, it is pretty much impossible for me to add PPAs. Am I doing it right? I cannot add "ppa:chromium-daily/dev" to my system, any help here?
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> Linix:  #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 issues
[22:30] <trism> Linix: 12.10 has a newer version of chromium then the ppa (unless they just updated it in the last week, *checks*)
[22:30] <Linix> lima: Solaris sucks in everyway compared to Linux, why would you even want it?
[22:30] <OerHeks> Linix, that PPA is out of date, chomium does not publish there anymore.
[22:31] <SolarisBoy> why is Solaris Sucks a valid answer?
[22:31] <SolarisBoy> generally ppl saying that aren't using it correctly or have no experience with it
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:   i imagine you want Ubuntu last.. so you said windows first.. so that gives you the logical order. :)
[22:31] <lima> Linix: i need to learn it...
[22:31] <Linix> OerHeks: Do you know what the official one is?
[22:31] <OerHeks> Linux, yes, softwarecentre.
[22:31] <lima> Dr_Willis: thanks
[22:32] <Linix> OerHeks: But I wanted to get the dev versions of it.
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> lima:  assuming grub2 can boot solaris.. ive no idea what bootloader it uses..
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> lima:  mey be easier to just play with solaris in virtualbox
[22:32] <lima> it uses a modified grub i guess
[22:32] <bitfish> I need help my menus got changed to chine's/ Japanese . I want to change it back to English.
[22:32] <Linix> lima: ok
[22:33] <lima> Dr_Willis: nah.. its too slow
[22:33] <SolarisBoy> I have a v100 im selling with sol10 on it
[22:34] <SolarisBoy> i was going to throw it away soon actually
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> Not sure whats to learn about solarix actally. :) last iplay with it.. most of my leet-linux-skills transfered over. ;P
[22:35] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: same things you would need to learn on any other vendor unix - but I think your *nix knowledge is wide spread enough that you don't have to worry about like learning filesystem layouts and basic commands to maneuver the system
[22:35] <spirit3_> SolarisBoy: But, startup/shutdown with milestones etc is ... bizarre
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> I used SUN work stations years and yeas back  also..  and some BSD.. and Minux.,., it pays to be flexiable i guess.
[22:36] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: indeed
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> I still want some of the features from my AMIGA in Linux ;P
[22:36] <spirit3_> Dr_Willis: Now that I can totally agree with.  Datatypes!
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> eeee
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> spirit3_:  yep.  that was a very original idea i thought.   'plugins' at the core of the OS level.
[22:37] <cemil> selamunaleykum
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> spirit3_: is it really bizarre? i dont think. =(
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> did upstart really dupe us out of understanding run levels?
[22:38] <spirit3_> SolarisBoy: Probably not once you're familiar with it - I'm not familiar with it :(
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> heh
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> I barely understand Upstart ;)
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> i rarely need to mess with it ;P
[22:39] <SolarisBoy> lols i like upstart a lot - but everyone hasn't switched over to it or doesn't plan to - im still learning upstart though
[22:39] <bitfish> I need help my menus got changed to chine's/ Japanese . I want to change it back to English.
[22:39] <SolarisBoy> one would think it's simple enough and then boom - craziness occurs
[22:39] <cemil> la kokoşlar
[22:39] <SolarisBoy> smh @events..
[22:40] <lima> wow 1600 users lol
[22:42] <Tired_Old_Man> yeah, well not all of us are paying attention.  I think one guy is on the toilet and someone else just went to get a drink of something.
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> Tired_Old_Man  or in a different time zone
[22:43] <daedaluz> is there a way to hide "unneeded" fonts from programs? I pretty much only need 10, but because I don't want to see boxes in the internet I have to browse through dozens
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> or working
[22:43] <cemil> laaaa
[22:43] <cemil> lalalalaalal
[22:43] <cemil> alalalalalalala
[22:43] <cemil> npynz
[22:43] <cemil> P?
[22:43] <FloodBot1> cemil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <cemil> Please do not use prostitutes operating system ubuntu
[22:46] <gry> cemil: this is Ubuntu support channel. Are you looking for help?
[22:47] <ripthejacker> !ics
[22:47] <gry> daedaluz: what programs would you want to hide them from? I think the font picker itself can't do that, but some applications like libreoffice have a setting to remember recently used fonts.
[22:47] <W4sp> SolarisBoy: OT though, The OPenBSD community often needs those older h/w, it may be woth to ping someone at #openbsd.
[22:47] <daedaluz> gry all programs which I use to write with, pretty much
[22:47] <cemil> Ubuntu is a whore, saying no operating system
[22:48] <cemil> Ubuntu no, long live the Pardus
[22:49] <Luig1> Looks like this guy's on the ban train
[22:49] <Luig1> So anyway, is there a way to search within threads on the Ubuntu support forums?
[22:50] <Luig1> Like, search and get individual posts as results, instead of whole threads?
[22:53] <cemil> All languages ​​are always acknowledges pardus beautiful, even in ubuntu IRC channel discrimination is worse than doing #pardus
[22:53] <cemil> All languages ​​are always acknowledges pardus beautiful, even in ubuntu IRC channel discrimination is worse than doing #pardus
[22:53] <cemil> All languages ​​are always acknowledges pardus beautiful, even in ubuntu IRC channel discrimination is worse than doing #pardus
[22:53] <cemil> All languages ​​are always acknowledges pardus beautiful, even in ubuntu IRC channel discrimination is worse than doing #pardus
[22:53] <FloodBot1> cemil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <cemil> All languages ​​are always acknowledges pardus beautiful, even in ubuntu IRC channel discrimination is worse than doing #pardus
[22:54] <DarkAceZ> lol
[22:55] <DarkAceZ> first time I saw something like this happen here.
[22:55] <SteinerRecliner> !find
[22:55] <DarkAceZ> cemil, hi
[22:55] <DarkAceZ> go back to mac
[22:55] <newbe27> hey guys
[22:56] <newbe27> anybody german here?
[22:56] <DarkAceZ> !ge
[22:57] <bekks> !de | newbe27
[22:58] <ki4ro_> Is there a length limitation on the hostname in SSH?
[22:59] <bekks> ki4ro_: 255 chars for the FQDN.
[22:59] <ki4ro_> bekks: FQDN?
[22:59] <SiDz> have u ever heard about the wireless problem when someone try to connect to he's access point it say bad password when it's the right password
[22:59] <SiDz> how do you fix that?
[22:59] <djzn> a question about NTFS USB thumbdrive.... IS UBUNTU Live persistence possible on a NTFS drive or only with FAT32
[23:00] <dudewhat> try using wpa_supplicant
[23:00] <bekks> ki4ro_: full qualified domain name: mycomputer.kitchen.myhouse.com
[23:00] <cemil> always have a very bad english ubuntu irc channels all its write can now get a warning ...
[23:00] <cemil> I installed with pardus pardus pardus irc pardus'e wanted to pass a language I suggest you talk to ... I know you disagree with your #pardus
[23:00] <SiDz> dudewhat im asking for a friend
[23:00] <dudewhat> I have had it happen to me before
[23:01] <dudewhat> but only when using wcid
[23:01] <SiDz> ya not the first time i heard of that
[23:01] <ki4ro_> bekks: Okay.  I can access the other computer with username@ipaddress but when I enter username@computername the connection times out
[23:01] <SiDz> so he must remove wcid?
[23:01] <SiDz> wpa_supplicant is by command line only?
[23:01] <dudewhat> all he needs is the default conf
[23:01] <dudewhat> and yes command line
[23:01] <SiDz> ok ok
[23:01] <SiDz> gonna work that with him
[23:02] <SiDz> so he can remove wcid?
[23:02] <dudewhat> yes
[23:02] <sas> #ubuntu-br
[23:02] <SiDz> and all dependancies?
[23:03] <SiDz> wpagui - graphical user interface for wpa_supplicant
[23:03] <SiDz> wpasupplicant - client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
[23:03] <SiDz> sound nice?
[23:03] <SiDz> wpagui
[23:03] <FloodBot1> SiDz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <cemil>  I installed with pardus pardus pardus irc pardus'e wanted to pass a language I suggest you talk to ... I know you disagree with your #pardus
[23:05] <cemil>  I installed with pardus pardus pardus irc pardus'e wanted to pass a language I suggest you talk to ... I know you disagree with your #pardus
[23:05] <itatitat> guys I've a problem, Im trying to install a software, Less CSS, but I get this error always:  'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)'
[23:05] <itatitat> in the drive ‘/cdrom/’ and press enter
[23:05] <itatitat> what that?
[23:06] <cemil>  I installed with pardus pardus pardus irc pardus'e wanted to pass a language I suggest you talk to ... I know you disagree with your #pardus
[23:06] <dudewhat> never used it
[23:06] <cemil>  I installed with pardus pardus pardus irc pardus'e wanted to pass a language I suggest you talk to ... I know you disagree with your #pardus
[23:06] <g0ku> Hey ubuntu I just had a fresh install and I forgot to change my computer name and its really long, how can I change that?
[23:06] <cemil> ubuntu no
[23:07] <cemil> now does not allow me to use ubuntu irc
[23:07] <cemil> now does not allow me to use # ubuntu
[23:07] <cemil> now does not allow me to use #ubuntu
[23:07] <dudewhat> wat
[23:08] <IdleOne> cemil: Do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[23:08] <JoshuaP> I have an ISO problem with an ISO burn I made today; the language packs do not include English.
[23:08] <IdleOne> cemil: you are in #ubuntu now.
[23:09] <ki4ro_> bekks: Okay.  I can access the other computer with username@ipaddress but when I enter username@computername the connection times out
[23:09] <cemil> #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:09] <cemil>  #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:09] <cemil>  #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:09] <cemil>  #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:09] <FloodBot1> cemil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <spirit3_> ki4ro_: sounds like you don't have DNS set up.  Add the remote IP adress to /etc/hosts along with tghe name you wish to use :)
[23:10] <cemil> -  #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:10] <JoshuaP> Can someone help me?
[23:10] <cemil>   #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:10] <cemil>   #ubuntu does not allow my language
[23:10] <FloodBot1> cemil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <ki4ro_> spirit3_: I'll try...thanks
[23:12] <W4sp> g0ku: I would change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. Mind that other already configured services such as printing rely on the hostname, which probably is then the old one.
[23:13] <g0ku> Should I just do another fresh install W4sp ? ~_~
[23:13] <g0ku> I didn't configure printing yet so..
[23:13] <W4sp> g0ku: Better to install again. It costs you only a few mins.
[23:14] <JoshuaP> Can someone help me with my Lang packs problem?
[23:14] <cemil> #ubuntu get Turkish language
[23:14] <IdleOne> !turkish
[23:14] <IdleOne> cemil: /join #ubuntu-tr
[23:14] <IdleOne> cemil: also stop spamming or I will ban you.
[23:14] <W4sp> g0ku: To be perfectly honest with you, I don't change hostnames very often. ;-) To avoid the risks I suggest to install again.
[23:15] <g0ku> Haha alright, brb then.
[23:17] <ki4ro_> spirit3_: That did it...many thanks!
[23:17] <irreverant> In windows if I want to auto start applications; I can place it in hklm/software/microsoft/currentversion/run or the startup programs folder.
[23:17] <irreverant> How can I do the same thing for my Ubuntu box?
[23:18] <xangua> irreverant: power icon at the top right, statup apps
[23:18] <irreverant> I feel so stupid!
[23:20] <irreverant> Ok where do I find the command or app for xchat? Which folder holds all the programs?
[23:20] <Pessimist> irreverant, /usr/bin
[23:20] <xangua> irreverant: "xchat" would be the command
[23:21] <irreverant> Yeah I looked in /bin and didn't find it
[23:21] <xangua> or x-chat perhaps¿¿ check in terminal with autocomplete
[23:21] <OerHeks> locate xchat
[23:21] <Pessimist> irreverant, /usr/bin but not /bin/...
[23:21] <xangua> irreverant: you don't need to search for the binary, just put xchat as the command irreverant
[23:22] <irreverant> Ok. let me try.
[23:22] <irreverant> Brb.
[23:22] <Pessimist> irreverant, configuration files are in ~/.<program name>. For my XChat installation it is ~/.xchat2
[23:23] <bonez2046> I recently upgraded to 12.04, and then today I added in a newer diamond steal 3d 2000 pro video card...when i open 'display' I see a 'laptop' with 800x600 resolution (this is a desktop machine)
[23:23] <irreverant> Sweet!
[23:23] <Pessimist> irreverant, configuration files are in ~/.<program name>. For my XChat installation it is ~/.xchat2
[23:23] <bonez2046> I copied and reconfigured my xorg.conf file over from another system which is also running 12.04.. and that other system works, but I can't get the one with the new s3virge diamond card to recognize the driver
[23:24] <irreverant> So it's /usr/bin and ~/.(programname)
[23:24] <irreverant> What's the best book to read about learning about ubuntu?
[23:24] <IdleOne> !manual
[23:24] <Pessimist> irreverant, yes; /usr/bin - executable files, ~/.<program/packet name>/ is for configuration, etc.
[23:26] <Pessimist> bonez2046, try without any xorg.conf in the another system
[23:26] <W4sp> bonez2046: YOu would need to create a new xorg.conf file and check the difference. Also, xorg.conf is not mandatory and the X server should do perfectly without. Use xorg.conf if something isn't right. Do not use xorg.conf from other systems as they may have different hardware. Use diff to compare.
[23:28] <bonez2046> W4sp: I understand the hardware may be different. That's why I included the note "reconfigured my xorg.conf ... " to match the hardware on the new (other, copied to) system
[23:28] <itatitat> guys I've this message in the middle of an installation, but I dont know why:
[23:28] <itatitat> Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled  'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> itatitat:  your cd is in your sources.list for some reason.
[23:29] <itatitat> im working with the last version of ubuntu, I mount an iso in cdrom.............
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> use the package manager tools to remove the cd as a repository
[23:29] <itatitat> wow...........
[23:29] <itatitat> how can I remove that?.....
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> not much Point in haveing the cd as a repository ;)
[23:29] <AssociateX> Where would the best place to ask ipod questions.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> use the packaage manager tools you perfer. most have a manage repository options
[23:29] <irreverant> Ok, how can I change from Gnome to KDE?
[23:30] <irreverant> Do I need to download it using the synaptics package manager?
[23:30] <itatitat> yes you're right...
[23:30] <itatitat> ok, thanks a lot
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> 'software sources' tool in the menus. ;)
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  if its not installed.. yes.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:31] <bonez2046> Pessimist: not sure what you mean
[23:31] <Pessimist> yeah and then remove gnome or if you want to have both environments you'll have to choose between gnome/kde sessions
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> removeing a desktop enviroment is harder then installing them. ;)
[23:32] <Pessimist> bonez2046, just read what W4sp said
[23:32] <irreverant> Oops, well i'm installing using the command I was given.
[23:32] <irreverant> But they'll both exist as options for right now right?
[23:33] <arunkumar413> is there any application to learn or construct regular expressions
[23:33] <Pessimist> yes, on login screen you will be able to choose between gnome or kde session or any other DE you have installed
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> arunkumar413:  ive seen several online. and for my Android phone. Not really looked in the repos for them I imagine theres some.
[23:33] <cemil> ubuntu no, pardus thumbs up
[23:33] <cemil>  ubuntu no, pardus thumbs up
[23:34] <cemil>  ubuntu no, pardus thumbs up
[23:34] <cemil>  ubuntu no, pardus thumbs up
[23:34] <cemil>  ubuntu no, pardus thumbs up
[23:34] <BigFatFatty> cemil: ok, we get the point
[23:34] <entricular> Can someone test something out for me ?
[23:34] <entricular> Can some one test out this script-> http://www.wikihow.com/Record-Your-Desktop-Using-Ffmpeg-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:34] <entricular> I need to see if it works on other people's systems
[23:35] <AssociateX> Arg, what would be a good server and channel to ask non Linux related ipod questions.
[23:35] <AssociateX> ?
[23:35] <nasa01> Hi, does anyone know how to solve this error:  "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' timed out"?  It's causing slow bootup and problems with starting pulseaudio for me...
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> arunkumar413:    visual-regexp - Interactively debug regular expressions
[23:36] <cemil> pardus very best operating system
[23:38] <cemil> Ubuntu is an operating system is so bad, she seems to be what kind of desktop environment made ​​for kids, doing stupid things
[23:38] <cemil> Ubuntu is an operating system is so bad, she seems to be what kind of desktop environment made ​​for kids, doing stupid things
[23:38] <irreverant> Default Display manager? KDM lightdm?
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> cemil:  please grow up. if you have a support question then ask.. if not.. then be quiet.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  whatever one you want.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  its easy to change back.
[23:38] <zaitzev> Dr_Willis: He's been spamming the channel for a while now..
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> cemil  is a bot
[23:39] <irreverant> DR_Willis: What's the difference?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  one is kde's other is ubuntus default...
[23:39] <OerHeks> irreverant, lightdm - unity
[23:39] <irreverant> ah!
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> either will do the job. If you are going to use KDE. may as well use KDM.
[23:39] <irreverant> That's what I chose.
[23:40] <Pessimist> just do /ignore cemil!*@* ALL
[23:40] <bonez2046> w4sp: ok, I get that X server should do fine but on this system all I get is 800x600 for the monitor resolution which clearly isn't 'fine' from where I sit....what else might I check?
[23:40] <EjYcE> Hello am new here
[23:40] <zaitzev> Pessimist: That works until he changes nick. Better to kick the bot out.
[23:41] <Pessimist> bonez2046, there is a way to change the monitor resolution. Just put "resolution" or "displays" in Unity
[23:41] <EjYcE> I need ssh root and smtp, contact me as soon as possible
[23:41] <cemil> Ubuntu is an operating system is so bad, she seems to be what kind of desktop environment made ​​for kids, doing stupid things
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> EjYcE:  do you have a ubuntu support question? thats what this channel is for.
[23:41] <bonez2046> Pessimist: I got to the displays icon, click it and I see 'Laptop' and the resolution reads '800x600' and that's it, no other choices....
[23:42] <haylo> exit
[23:42] <Pessimist> bonez2046, are you sure the drivers for your gpu are loaded correctly? If yes, then I think there is no other way than this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[23:42] <bonez2046> the 'displays' and or 'resolution' items are only seeing a laptop.
[23:42] <tworkin1> i just installed 12.04 from the alternate iso. I got an error during "select software and install" that I couldnt overcome so I skipped that and finished the installation. boot and login fine, but `apt-get update` only sees cdrom:// urls in sources.list. what to do?
[23:42] <arunkumar413> is there any regular expression construction program for ubuntu
[23:43] <bonez2046> I will recheck...I think I have the correct driver listed
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> arunkumar413:    visual-regexp - Interactively debug regular expressions   - check the repos for othhers.. i just did a quick search
[23:43] <EjYcE> Dr_Willis@, I need a server where i can get hackers
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> EjYcE:  that dosent even make sence.. and is OT for this channel.. and Most likely OT for the freenode network...
[23:44] <EjYcE> Dr_Willis@,so what is ur advice? do you mean this is not the best pleace for what i need?
[23:44] <tworkin1> is http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ a recommended solution for making a better sources.list?
[23:45] <cemil> How do you use an operating system, "su" type, type the administrator password, you can not get sudo password manager you will now write nonsense of su, the Ubuntu operating system is really a worthless
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> EjYcE:  my advice is to go learn some real computer skills.  this network and channel are NOT for illeagle type activities.
[23:45] <Pessimist> tworkin1, you need to get a good sources.list. I'll upload mine in a sec or you can go to Ubuntu Software Center and choose the online repositories
[23:46] <cemil> How do you use an operating system, "su" type, type the administrator password, you can not get sudo password manager you will now write nonsense of su, the Ubuntu operating system is really a worthless
[23:46] <EjYcE> Dr_Willis@,Oh i see but how can you teach me while we are distance from each other now:d
[23:46] <cemil> How do you use an operating system, "su" type, type the administrator password, you can not get sudo password manager you will now write nonsense of su, the Ubuntu operating system is really a worthless
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> EjYcE:  no one is going to teach you  much on irc.. go read and learn some fundamentals and teach yourself.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> !manual | EjYcE
[23:47] <W4sp> nasa01: It's probably down to a dbus error. Did you install anything prior the error occured? Also, does dmesg tell you anything?
[23:47] <dreadtech> hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu server 10.0.4 on an IBM System x3650 M4. Is this possible? It shows that it's compatible with SUSE and Red Hat. Ubuntu is not detecting the 5 SAS HDs during set up.
[23:47] <Pessimist> tworkin1, here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/5GTAqPyg but note that this uses my local repos so I recommend you go to Ubuntu Software Center and enable your local repositories there
[23:48] <EjYcE> Dr_Willis@,thank you anyway
[23:48] <nasa01> Thanks W4sp - no, I hadn't installed anything prior to the error, it seems to have always been there.  But of course, I wans't looking for it at the start
[23:48] <nasa01> And I didn't see anything special out of dmesg
[23:49] <W4sp> nasa01: Well it's probably down to dbus then.
[23:49] <nasa01> Anything I can do about it?
[23:49] <cemil> Ubuntu is an operating system I'm just telling you bad, than why should I use an operating system security weaknesses that already I'm using Pardus
[23:49] <tworkin1> Pessimist: thanks, i'll start with just precise main and precise-security main since all i have right now is vi D:
[23:50] <W4sp> nasa01: What version do you have? Did you mention it?
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> cemil:  if you are going to do pointless spamming, please use better english.
[23:50] <dreadtech> did anyone see my question?
[23:51] <nasa01> 12.04
[23:51] <gry> dreadtech: yes
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> I dont even know what a 'SAS' HD is dreadtech  ;)
[23:51] <dreadtech> it's just an IBM server hard drive
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> Not sure how that differs from the hard drive in my normal desktop machine..
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> some sort of RAID setup?
[23:52] <pspeter3> How do you install nvidia drivers now? I have been using elementary but switched back to ubuntu for a while
[23:52] <bonez2046> Pessimist: here's a pastebin for xrandr : http://pastebin.com/EcNWF5AS
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> pspeter3:  addational-drivers  tool  - 'gksudo jockey-gtk'
[23:53] <dreadtech> yes but Ubuntu won't install nor detect drives even without the RAID set up
[23:53] <pspeter3> Dr_Willis: what does that do?
[23:53] <dudewhat> magic
[23:53] <dae44> I have remote desktop set up on an Ubuntu 12.04 box, but after reboot I can't log in - I can get in via SSH. Does logging in with TIghtVNC require a full X session to already be open? If so, how do I do that remotely?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> pspeter3:  installs the nvidia and other drivers... what you asked how to do...
[23:54] <Pessimist> pspeter3, its a tool that makes it very easy to install propertary drivers in Ubuntu
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> dae44:  you can ssh and run the vncserver then connect via a vnc client to the hidden vnc desktop.
[23:54] <irreverant> What is ubuntu doing about the secure boot functionality with Windows 8?
[23:55] <pspeter3> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> dae44:  t TightVNC does NOT share the current visible desktop. It can have its own custom 'hidden' desktop
[23:55] <Pessimist> irreverant, signing Ubuntu iso so that it would work under "secure" boot
[23:55] <irreverant> With microsoft keys or emulating the keys?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> irreverant: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035445.html Further discussion of this should probably go in either #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[23:56] <irreverant> Thanks Jordan_U
[23:56] <Jordan_U> irreverant: You're welcome.
[23:57] <W4sp> nasa01: We may need to check syslog, they rotate hence you may not find it in the current one.
[23:57] <dae44> Dr_Willis, gotcha, thank you!
[23:58] <bonez2046> w4sp here's a pastebin for xrandr : http://pastebin.com/EcNWF5AS
[23:58] <W4sp> nasa01: The erro message is rather generic and can  have different root causes. :-(
[23:59] <Pessimist> bonez2046, follow the link I gave you