[04:11] <snowguy> I have a couple of basic questions abt edubuntu and ltsp (just set it up for the first time).
[04:11] <snowguy> Here's what I don't understand...
[04:12] <snowguy> From the documentation it seems like I would need to take a bunch of special steps to add software to the client. But in fact I setup ltsp on edubuntu and when I install something on the server, it automatically is loaded on a thin client.
[04:12] <snowguy> That's great but I'm having trouble making sense of the documentation. Can anyone help me understand ?
[04:17] <snowguy> Here's a quote from the LTSPManual.pdf that to me suggests I would need to chroot in order to install/update software on the clients: The reason why it is called a chroot environment is that to install it, the GNU/Linux command chroot is called to
[04:17] <snowguy> actually set the installation root to /opt/ltsp/<arch>. From there, a scaled-down version of the distribution is
[04:17] <snowguy> installed. What this means is that for you to manage the chroot, performing such things as updates, all you need to do
[04:17] <snowguy> is use the chroot command to change the root of your installation. Then you can use all your tools like you normally
[04:17] <snowguy> would.
[04:18] <snowguy> I'll hang out for a bit hoping someone stumbles on my question that can help me out. thanks.
[04:55] <snowguy> anyone there? Is my question just really lame?
[04:56] <alkisg> What was the question?
[04:57] <snowguy> I am confused after just installing edubuntu with ltsp.
[04:57] <snowguy> I thought I would need to chroot to install new apps. but they just seem to work on the thin client if I install them
[04:57] <snowguy> on the edubuntu server
[04:57] <snowguy> I'm not sure what to make of the documentation that says I need to chroot.
[04:58] <snowguy> Does that question make sense?
[04:58] <alkisg> Yes, it makes sense, but no, you don't need them in the chroot
[04:58] <alkisg> A chroot is a minimal OS with just enough programs to get the client to boot and connect to the server
[04:59] <alkisg> After login, the clients work on the server, so any programs installed on the server are automatically available
[04:59] <alkisg> You only need to install apps in the chroot if you're using "localapps" or "ltsp fat clients"
[04:59] <alkisg> Which part of the documentation says you need to chroot, so that we change it?
[05:00] <snowguy> well, I was specifically referring to the ltspmanual.pdf
[05:00] <snowguy> but maybe it was written assuming I knew more than I did.
[05:00] <snowguy> here was one quote I found confusing (but now with your explanation makes sense to me)
[05:01] <snowguy> The reason why it is called a chroot environment is that to install it, the GNU/Linux command chroot is called to
[05:01] <snowguy> actually set the installation root to /opt/ltsp/<arch>. From there, a scaled-down version of the distribution is
[05:01] <snowguy> installed. What this means is that for you to manage the chroot, performing such things as updates, all you need to do
[05:01] <snowguy> is use the chroot command to change the root of your installation. Then you can use all your tools like you normally
[05:01] <snowguy> would.
[05:02] <snowguy> So is there really a reason for me to bother updating the chroot if I am only using thin clients? Sounds like not, since it  is only a temporary environment.
[05:03] <alkisg> That part is talking about the minimal OS needed to boot the clients, if you think it's not making it clear enough that this *isn't* related to the server OS that you see after login, you can file a bug report in the ltsp-docs package
[05:03] <alkisg> One updates the chroot for the normal reasons that we do OS updates
[05:03] <alkisg> I.e. bug fixes, security fixes etc
[05:04] <snowguy> ok. thanks for all your help. I appreciate the response. and thanks for the work on the software.
[05:04] <alkisg> Even the "boot the client and connect to the server" part can have normal or security bugs :)
[05:04] <alkisg> You're welcome
[05:04] <snowguy> got it.
[20:42] <ajmitch> stgraber: how's the tablet work progressing? my laptop ac adapter has decided to finally die, so I'm out of that for a bit :)
[20:43] <stgraber> ajmitch: haven't spend much time on it since the weekend, still can't get anything to boot from sd
[20:43] <ajmitch> damn
[20:44]  * ajmitch didn't spend any time on it over this last week, was hoping to get back to it this weekend & try & get X installed on the sd card to use the fb