[08:41] <debfx> ScottK: some files in the ark package aren't installed. didn't the build status script warn about that?
[09:11] <Riddell> allee: how did you get on with calligra?
[09:19] <allee> still finding my way.  I thought with lots of people in holiday it quite at work.  But yesterday it was exactly the opposite.  Will give it a try later today again.
[09:19] <Riddell> allee: release day is today so let me know if you can't manage it
[09:19] <allee> But if it's urgent to get it out.  Grab it and I'll look for another pkgs.  Lots of releases lately so should be no big deal to find something
[09:22] <allee> Riddell: feel free to take calligra. I've seen plasma nm need also an update (we've eduroam here, so I could actually test the enterprise bug fix)
[09:24] <Riddell> allee: ok, will do
[09:25] <allee> Riddell: okay, I'll download plasma nm later ...
[09:26] <Riddell> debfx, ScottK: /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/1920x1200/background.png is different in 4.8.5 packages
[09:32] <Riddell> oh probably it's something to do with kde-base-artwork
[09:37] <Riddell> I guess dirk never merged in kde-base-artwork which is why horos wasn't added
[09:56] <jussi> good afternoon all
[09:57] <Riddell> hello Helsinki
[09:58] <Riddell> ScottK: kde-workspace uploaded with ariya theme
[10:08] <debfx> interestingly the git repository always had horos only
[10:17] <jussi> Riddell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns1S0gAkG8k :D
[10:58] <Riddell> ScottK: did you update calligra in 12.04 for the security update?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> 'morning
[11:03] <Riddell> ScottK: the patch says you did but it's not in the queue (assuming I'm using launchpad right)
[11:04] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1034322] Keyboard Layout Switcher plasma applet show deformed icon and text @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1034322 (by José Luis Bolos)
[11:45] <Riddell> apachelogger_: I'm confused by your date by default suggestion last month, it's not displayed by default and you suggested not to display it by default?
[11:49] <apachelogger_> Riddell: we changed it to display by default a long time ago and then removed this change last month as no clear consunses could be reached on whether it should be displayed by default
[11:50] <Riddell> oh yes, hmm shame, I think it's really useful to have it, my bad for missing that conversation
[11:54] <apachelogger_> Riddell: my problem with it is that it looks silly while being useful, particularly ever since sebas changed the way the time is drawn (it's not just plain text with solid color anymore)
[12:11] <apachelogger_> Riddell, ScottK: so except for trolling and minor annoyances KTP seems good enough for release
[12:54] <Riddell> apachelogger_: release where?
[13:04] <apachelogger_> Riddell: with our distro
[13:09] <Riddell> apachelogger_: oh good :)
[13:54] <Peace-> hey do you know why this stuff is like this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/08/plasma-desktopzw2439.png
[13:54] <Peace-> the menu is a mess
[13:54] <Peace-> that submenu is not export 
[13:55] <Darkwing> What prog? gwenview?
[13:55] <Peace-> Darkwing: yep
[13:56] <Peace-> kde 4.9 12.04
[13:56] <Darkwing> ahhh...
[13:56]  * Darkwing poders.
[13:56] <Darkwing> ponders
[13:57] <Darkwing> I'm running 12.10
[13:57] <Peace-> on 12.10 works fine 
[13:57] <Darkwing> But, gwenview has changed a bit.
[13:57] <Darkwing> I'll pull my KVM with 12.04 and take a look.
[13:58] <Riddell> I don't see a bug there
[13:58] <Peace-> Riddell: mm?
[13:58] <AlexZion> Hi everyone ...
[13:58] <Peace-> Riddell: that is not the menu export
[13:59] <Darkwing> Hi AlexZion
[14:00] <Peace-> Riddell: this is the menu that should appear http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/08/plasma-desktopNi2174.png
[14:00] <AlexZion> I was talking with Peace- about the problem of kipi-plugins in gwenview ..., I'm the onlyone with this problem !?!
[14:01] <AlexZion> because I did an upgrade just yesterday and maybe something is wrong on my config !?!
[14:01] <Darkwing> Riddell: It looks like the Export menu is showing up in Batch Processing
[14:01] <Riddell> aah
[14:01] <Darkwing> AlexZion: Hang in there mate. :)
[14:01] <Darkwing> Riddell: It's effecting AlexZion
[14:02] <AlexZion> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/08/plasma-desktopzw2439.png
[14:05] <AlexZion> Darkwing: I already tried to remove and purge gwenview and kipi-plugins and than reinstall them , but without results ... 
[14:05] <Darkwing> AlexZion: When you said you upgraded.... what was that process?
[14:05] <Peace-> remove all the stuff ~./kde /config and apps
[14:05] <Peace-> nothing to do
[14:08] <Darkwing> AlexZion: Give me a few.
[14:08] <AlexZion> I upgrade from version 11.10 to 12.04 and then to kde 4.9 .....
[14:09] <Darkwing> AlexZion: Okay
[14:09] <Darkwing> AlexZion: I'm getting my KVM to reflect what you did so I can try and duplicate the problem.
[14:12] <AlexZion> Darkwing: thaks for your support buddy ..., if I can do some other test , just let me know ... 
[14:12] <Darkwing> AlexZion: I'll let you know :)
[14:12] <Darkwing> AlexZion: Just give me a few to get this worked out correctly.
[14:27] <Riddell> apol_: thanks for doing planet bugs :)
[14:27] <Peace-> Riddell: mm i have added the language but the spellchecker doesn't add it too
[14:28] <Peace-> something of wrong on 12.10?
[14:28] <Riddell> Peace-: from system settings -> locale?
[14:28] <Peace-> Riddell: yep
[14:29] <Peace-> added the second language
[14:29] <Riddell> Peace-: in 12.10?
[14:29] <Peace-> but then on the module i can't see the spell check for that language
[14:29] <Peace-> Riddell: yep
[14:29] <Riddell> Peace-: yeah there's more work to be done on that language install patch
[14:30] <Peace-> Riddell: i use english all the time btw 
[14:30] <Peace-> :D
[14:30] <Peace-> but i have tested
[14:31] <Peace-> now dist-upgrade and test the lightdm guest stuff 
[14:31] <Riddell> thanks for testing
[14:43] <Peace-> Riddell: i was talkin about the mp3 encoder on k3b  it ask always to install it 
[14:43] <Peace-> Riddell: even here on 12.10
[14:45] <Darkwing> I'm finding KVM soooo much nicer than anything else I've ever used.
[14:47] <Darkwing> Oh. My. God. http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-victorian-laptop-p-219.html
[14:55] <Peace-> Riddell: i can use guest without problem 
[14:57] <apol_> Riddell: np :)
[17:31] <shadeslayer_> \o
[17:37] <shadeslayer_> vHanda: around?
[17:37] <vHanda> depends on what you have in mind
[17:37] <shadeslayer_> vHanda: can you tell me the commit hash's about the bug I talked to you about?
[17:38] <vHanda> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304476
[17:38] <shadeslayer_> thx
[17:38] <vHanda> Be sure you read the last comment
[17:38] <shadeslayer_> yeah, going through the entire thing
[17:39] <shadeslayer_> it's kind of a release blocker if nepomuk takes up all your memory :P
[17:40]  * vHanda is currently a little pissed that this was not detected in any of the betas or release candidates
[17:40] <vHanda> and then I get 10 bug reports when 4.9 release
[17:40] <vHanda> *releases
[17:41] <vHanda> I thought we had special testing happening for 4.9
[17:41] <vHanda> :/
[17:43]  * shadeslayer_ has a shitty network atm
[17:58] <cmagina> vHanda: i didn't see it until release and only on 1 of 3 systems all of which run quantal
[19:32] <Quintasan_> @#!@$@!$
[19:32] <shadeslayer_> hopefully, this won't disconnect
[19:32] <Quintasan_> finally got it working
[19:32] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan_: ssup?
[19:32] <Quintasan> holy shit
[19:32] <Quintasan> this router is a pain to work with
[19:32] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: can't be as bad as my ISP
[19:40] <Quintasan> NCommander: Funny thing, that USB-to-RS232 cable had VID 0000 and PID 0000 under Windows
[19:40] <Quintasan> Holy crap so much to do
[19:41] <Quintasan> Better trackle it one at a time
[19:42] <Quintasan> NCommander: HOLY CRAP I JUST PLUGGED IT IN AND IT GOT DISCOVERED
[19:42] <Quintasan> WTF
[19:43] <Quintasan> Can't say it works though
[19:44] <Quintasan> Got some "Broken stream" and then Could not find PTY
[19:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Did you ever get Ooops in dmesg when copying files?
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> dafuq
[19:51] <Quintasan> lawd
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger_: nvm, figured out the pipeline
[19:51] <Quintasan> I get that some proccess locked the system for more than 120 seconds (I can normally use pc tho) and there is some debug info
[19:54]  * yofel gets that sometimes when btrfs messes up
[19:55] <yofel> usually harmless if the core isn't permanently stuck
[19:56] <Quintasan> yofel: The thing is I'm getting that everytime when writing img to sdcards
[19:57] <yofel> could be the FS complaining that the card is too slow, no idea whose fault it would be then
[19:57] <Quintasan> ehh
[20:01] <shadeslayer_> !testers
[20:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: What?
[20:03] <apachelogger_> shadeslayer_: eh?
[20:06] <Quintasan> yofel:, shadeslayer_: http://wklej.org/id/806855
[20:06] <Quintasan> sup
[20:07] <genii-around> shadeslayer_: What is the test ?
[20:10] <yofel> Quintasan: seems like 'sync' didn't respond for 2 minutes as it was waiting for the card
[20:10] <yofel> shadeslayer_: hm?
[20:17] <shadeslayer_> virtuoso and nepomuk need QA
[20:18] <Quintasan> yofel: holy crap
[20:18] <Quintasan> those sd class 4 cards must be shit
[20:19] <shadeslayer_> did anyone get my message?
[20:21] <shadeslayer_> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental < virtuoso and nepomuk QA
[20:22] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: yes they are
[20:22] <yofel> Quintasan: not neccessarily, sometimes the kernel just messes up as well - you can see hung tasks inside a VM if the roofs image is on a btrfs and has COW enabled, a SSD doesn't help much there
[20:24] <Quintasan> yofel: Ain't that bad? Doesn't that corrupt the writing somehow?
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> 1) make sure nepomuk doesn't hog memory
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> 2) make sure everything works with new virtuoso by using krunner to find files
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> currently nepomuk will go on leaking memory causing a OOM
[20:26] <yofel> Quintasan: no, that's just a warning - usually it shouldn't take that long. If you know what's up ignore it
[20:29] <NCommander> Quintasan: never unplug it ever (or reboot)
[20:39] <Quintasan> NCommander: That shit failed to connect anyways
[20:39] <Quintasan> Crap cable is crap
[20:40] <Quintasan> NCommander: I did manage to get a linaro precise nano image to boot
[20:40] <Quintasan> The output is...
[20:40] <Quintasan> lol
[20:40] <Quintasan> Let me take a photo
[20:40] <shadeslayer_> sigh, I'm definitely going to switch ISP's
[20:43] <yofel> shadeslayer_: is there a way to reproduce the memory hogging? nepomuk isn't using much memory here. (then again, I pretty much don't use it)
[20:43] <shadeslayer_> yofel: make sure the filewatcher is running
[20:43] <Quintasan> NCommander: http://db.tt/MTJJ2ZXI
[20:43] <Quintasan> sup
[20:44] <yofel> shadeslayer_: it's not o.O
[20:44] <shadeslayer_> :)
[20:44] <shadeslayer_> sec
[20:44] <Quintasan> NCommander: The camera isn't crap, that's how the framebuffer looks like :D
[20:44] <shadeslayer_> yofel: KDE Bug 304476
[20:45] <NCommander> Quintasan: ow
[20:45] <NCommander> Quintasan: I don't know anything about the linaro images
[20:45] <Quintasan> NCommander: I THINK I might have succeeded in installing openssh-server
[20:45] <Quintasan> :P
[20:45] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: lol
[20:46] <yofel> shadeslayer_: so... how does one start it?
[20:46] <yofel> Quintasan: nice modern art ^^
[20:46] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: You sayin' nepomukfilewatch should leak memory when searching?
[20:47] <yofel> oh wait
[20:47] <yofel> was looking at the wrong ps output
[20:48] <Quintasan> lal it does
[20:48] <Quintasan> every time I look for something it uses more and more memory
[20:50] <yofel> shadeslayer_: nepomukfilewatch is using 20m RES here, and this session has been running for 4 days so I guess I'm not affected by that
[20:50] <shadeslayer_> yofel: run :  nepomukservicestub nepomukfilewatch
[20:50]  * yofel kills it for fun
[20:50] <shadeslayer_> oh .. ok, vHanda  did say it was reproducible only on certain machines
[20:51]  * shadeslayer_ could reproduce it this evening, but after updating, no more mem hogging
[20:51] <yofel> now it's using 21m, so I guess I can't help here
[20:51] <shadeslayer_> try new virtuoso then :)
[20:51] <Riddell> !testers
[20:51] <Riddell> anyone able to test calligra on 12.04?
[20:51] <yofel> shadeslayer_: that fixes... what?
[20:52] <shadeslayer_> yofel: performance improvements from what I've been told
[20:52] <yofel> ah well
[20:52] <shadeslayer_> just search for files and stuff :P
[20:52] <Quintasan> Do we have 4.9.0 for precise?
[20:53] <shadeslayer_> afaik yes
[20:55] <Riddell> BluesKaj: able to test calligra on 12.04?
[20:56] <BluesKaj> i'll be switching over to the 12.04 drive later tonight Riddell , I'll report back tomorrow
[20:57] <Quintasan> lololololollolololol
[20:57] <Quintasan> NCommander: The output looks different everytime I reboot the board :D
[20:57] <Quintasan> Sounds like fun
[20:58] <cmagina> i actually hit the nepomukservicestub but reliably. it might have something to do with lots of files. could checkout a couple copies of the linux kernel and let it index it
[20:58] <cmagina> s/but/bug
[20:59] <cmagina> or, if you have a package i can just install i'll test it
[20:59] <Quintasan> cmagina: That would kill your PC probably, try indexing your whole /home/
[21:01] <cmagina> Quintasan: does someone have a packaged version of nepomuk with those patches? i can test it as my desktop hits the memory leak
[21:01] <Quintasan> cmagina: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[21:01] <Quintasan> Thank shadeslayer_ if that fixed that magic
[21:03] <cmagina> will do
[21:06] <shadeslayer_> :D
[21:13] <Quintasan> I wish Nepomuk was as half good as Windows search
[21:15] <shadeslayer_> vHanda: ^
[21:20] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: IT DOESN'T WORK HERE
[21:20] <Quintasan> or is not as fast as it should be
[21:20] <Quintasan> Or I just have too many files
[21:20] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: file searching?
[21:20] <shadeslayer_> are you sure that the file has been indexed
[21:21] <Quintasan> Do you think I'm dumb?
[21:21] <shadeslayer_> oh also, make sure you click the "Everywhere" button in dolphin
[21:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Dolphin? I want KRunner searching
[21:21] <shadeslayer_> ah, works for me without a issue in krunner
[21:22] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: check which file it's indexing from the KCM and then search for it after it's been indexed?
[21:22] <Quintasan> My Nepomuk alternates between indexing and doing nothing
[21:22] <Quintasan> I think it's time I copied everything and removed .*
[21:22] <BluesKaj> ok , which version of calligra are supposed to test ? 
[21:22] <BluesKaj> are we 
[21:24] <Riddell> BluesKaj: it's in kubuntu-ninjas
[21:24] <Riddell> do you have access details?
[21:24] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ? i was distracted by a phone call so i didn't get which version of Calligra we're testing
[21:25] <Riddell> BluesKaj: it's 2.5 final
[21:25] <BluesKaj> ok kubuntu-ninjas calligra ppa I assume , Riddell
[21:26] <Riddell> BluesKaj: kubuntu-ninjas private ppa
[21:26] <Riddell> for kubuntu 12.04 which also has kde sc 4.9 in it
[21:30] <cmagina> shadeslayer_: thus far all looks good. nepomukservicestub is hovering around 25-26M, but i'll continue to keep an eye on it over the next day or so
[21:30] <shadeslayer_> cmagina: awesone
[21:30] <shadeslayer_> *awesome
[21:31] <cmagina> pretty easy to see if it goes crazy, last time i noticed it because i was in swap hell (nepomukservice was sitting at a nice 5.5G of memory usage)
[21:31] <shadeslayer_> cmagina: yeah, I noticed it today when testing the new virtuoso
[21:32] <shadeslayer_> called up Vishesh and he told me that it was fixed in 4.9 :)
[21:32] <cmagina> heh :)
[21:33] <cmagina> i'm currently watching virtuoso-t at 200M, but that isn't the same thing anyway (its the current quantal virtuoso binary)
[21:34] <cmagina> any good fixes in the new one?
[21:34] <shadeslayer_> cmagina: are you sure about that? There's a new virtuoso in my ppa
[21:34] <shadeslayer_> cmagina: supposedly faster and is recommended by upstream
[21:34] <cmagina> shadeslayer_: i didn't add your ppa, just downloaded the nepomuk packages and installed them directly
[21:34] <shadeslayer_> oh ok
[21:35] <cmagina> didn't want to confuse what i was testing :)
[21:35] <cmagina> faster virtuoso sounds good
[21:35] <shadeslayer_> yay, I fixed ktp video calling \o/
[21:35] <Quintasan> NCommander: Do you have any idea if I can force sshd to somehow start as soon as possible?
[21:36]  * cmagina ^5's shadeslayer_ 
[21:37] <shadeslayer_> ok, kind of
[21:37] <shadeslayer_> for some reason, using ximagesink works, but using autovideosink makes it display 2 different windows
[21:40] <shadeslayer_> ahh, maybe autovideosink doesn't support overlaying ... /me checks
[22:24] <ScottK> apachelogger_: Messaging menu integration?
[22:24] <ScottK> (re ktp)
[22:24] <ScottK> It's kind of pointless to have a m-i widget for one thing.
[22:27] <Mamarok> I wonder if this is Kubuntu specific or not: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=107237&sid=f809a176fb3477854c8ae96670233a72
[22:27] <Mamarok> but I can reproduce this here.
[22:27] <Mamarok> no ogg option visible in audiocd KIO
[22:32] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: I was supposed to work on that, but other people know more about it than I do
[22:32] <apachelogger_> ScottK: we can always drop M-I :P
[22:33] <ScottK> apachelogger_: We could.  I guess it depends a lot on if agateau cares one way or the other.
[22:33]  * shadeslayer_ is off to sleep
[22:34] <apachelogger_> ScottK: well, I am not saying that it should be killed entirely but I'd not consider it a showstopper for now, ultimately it would however need to somehow merge with plasmas notification stuff TBH
[22:34] <ScottK> It's a bit different, AIUI, but OK.
[22:34] <apachelogger_> I mean, they do kinda the same thing, except plasma's is not tuned towards messages as such, which IMHO is a problem
[22:35] <apachelogger_> ScottK: I do realize that it is different but the concept is the one of a notification tracker
[22:35] <apachelogger_> so it is duplicating the plasma thing from a purely architectural POV
[22:36] <ScottK> I guess, but I wouldn't want how many times akonadi got confused mixed up with someone IM'ed me.
[22:37] <apachelogger_> right, that is the challenge there
[22:38] <apachelogger_> as I see it you have notifications and then you have the subsets of system notifications and messages (possible others
[22:38] <ScottK> I don't think I've ever cared about what a plasma notification said (not related to IM/IRC) more than a few seconds after it happened.