| stgraber | f/win 39 | 00:15 |
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| Pendulum | #startmeeting | 12:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Aug 8 12:01:41 2012 UTC. The chair is Pendulum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 12:01 |
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| IdleOne | o/ | 12:01 |
| Pendulum | Welcome to the 8 August 1200 Membership board meeting. | 12:02 |
| Pendulum | We will go through applicants in chronological order. When we call your name, please link us to your wiki and launchpad pages and give us a brief introduction. | 12:02 |
| Pendulum | #voters IdleOne head_victim Destine Pendulum | 12:03 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Destine IdleOne Pendulum head_victim | 12:03 |
| head_victim | Good evening all | 12:03 |
| Destine | Good evening | 12:03 |
| IdleOne | Good Morning here | 12:04 |
| Pendulum | Ravi325, are you here? | 12:04 |
| smartboyhw | I don't see him on the user list... | 12:04 |
| head_victim | Just gotta check in case they're aliasing. | 12:05 |
| smartboyhw | Sounds like he's not here... | 12:08 |
| Pendulum | Okay, it looks like Ravi325 isn't here. As he's the only applicant, I guess we can put this down as a very short meeting. Thank you to all the board members who showed up. | 12:09 |
| Pendulum | #endmeeting | 12:09 |
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| smartboyhw | ... | 12:11 |
| smartboyhw | That's quick. | 12:11 |
| IdleOne | happens sometimes | 12:12 |
| smartboyhw | Oh man, I will cmoe back in September or October or se. | 12:13 |
| smartboyhw | Next meeting: QA! | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw | Guys, QA meeting coming in 15 minutes! | 13:46 |
| smartboyhw | QA meeting coming 6 minutes. | 13:54 |
| phillw | #startmeeting Ubuntu QA Meeting | 14:00 |
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| * smartboyhw waves | 14:00 | |
| phillw | hi, can those present please say o/ | 14:00 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:00 |
| jdl | o/ | 14:00 |
| phillw | should be a short meeting! | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | OK! | 14:01 |
| jdl | just like last time | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | The 1st August meeting | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | is short. | 14:01 |
| jokerdino | this shouldn't be! | 14:02 |
| phillw | there are no previous actions outstanding | 14:02 |
| phillw | #topic Ubuntu update | 14:02 |
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| smartboyhw | Ha! | 14:02 |
| phillw | is anyone in from Ubuntu to give an update? | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm...Any +1 (12.10) team members here? | 14:03 |
| jokerdino | hi! | 14:03 |
| jokerdino | me is on quantal | 14:03 |
| jdl | nice | 14:03 |
| phillw | balloons: do you know of any breaking news? | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Give us an update | 14:04 |
| balloons | breaking news? | 14:04 |
| phillw | as far as I can see, things are going very well. | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | We are just doing the ISO Testing Cadence. | 14:05 |
| phillw | A critical bug on upgrade has been squished | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | YEAH! | 14:05 |
| jokerdino | when is the lo-menubar becoming default? | 14:05 |
| phillw | #topic other flavours | 14:06 |
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| phillw | I'll start with Lubutu | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | OK, thanks, phillw | 14:06 |
| phillw | As pretty much seems the case with Ubuntu, the silence on our mailing list can only mean that things are going well. I see no bugs being raised. | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | Great week, then. | 14:07 |
| phillw | The devs have closed a couple of niggling bugs and the artwork is under test - no problems reported. | 14:07 |
| phillw | That's all from Lubuntu | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks. | 14:08 |
| phillw | Any other flavours present to report in how they're getting on? | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | Anyone from edubuntu, Xubuntu....etc? | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | blank silence...:) | 14:09 |
| jdl | (crickets chirping) | 14:09 |
| jocarter | well, we usually only do our status updates at the release team meetings anyway :) | 14:09 |
| jocarter | (for edubuntu) | 14:10 |
| smartboyhw | YEAH! | 14:10 |
| jokerdino | i personally have no idea what's going in this meeting. so keeping quiet.. | 14:10 |
| jocarter | not really sure if it's useful doing the flavour updates here because then they have to do it twice and on differenc cycles | 14:10 |
| balloons | phillw, can we discuss the idea? | 14:11 |
| phillw | jocarter: this is the meeting of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | 14:11 |
| phillw | #topic Other Topics | 14:11 |
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| jocarter | phillw: ah, ok :) | 14:11 |
| phillw | balloons: sure :) | 14:11 |
| smartboyhw | That's quick. | 14:11 |
| smartboyhw | I added two things to the agenda, where ARE they? | 14:12 |
| balloons | jocarter, phillw I can see jocarter's point | 14:12 |
| phillw | balloons: indeed, at this stage of testing, things are quiet. | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:12 |
| balloons | perhaps we can alter the agenda to not specifically ask for updates from the flavors. We could handle that during the open 'other topics' portion if we wished | 14:13 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: feel free to speak :) | 14:13 |
| smartboyhw | Ack, where are the two agenda items I added? | 14:13 |
| phillw | balloons: sure. | 14:13 |
| jdl | i agree with ballons | 14:14 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: sorry, I had a cached copy of the aganda. I'll get to them next :) | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | balloons, any updates on the testing cadences for today? | 14:14 |
| phillw | #topic blueprint updates | 14:15 |
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| phillw | has anyone got anything to say on this topic? | 14:16 |
| balloons | o/ | 14:17 |
| phillw | balloons: go ahead :) | 14:17 |
| balloons | Let me find the page that lists the details of the blueprints from last cycle | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | Give me the link, balloons. | 14:18 |
| phillw | no worries, we are not up against the clock like at some meetings :) | 14:19 |
| balloons | In theory, we should be having a look at them as we go through the cycle. I just posted a mid-cycle review yesterday on the work items for the cycle | 14:19 |
| balloons | for instance, here's me: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/u/nskaggs.html | 14:20 |
| balloons | but as a community we don't have a burndown chart per say.. I know some folks did get items on some of the blueprints | 14:21 |
| smartboyhw | Wow, dude, can I get one of these pages! | 14:21 |
| balloons | phillw, .. | 14:24 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Receive my PM? | 14:24 |
| phillw | balloons: I'm just looking at the link | 14:24 |
| smartboyhw | Well, phillw, you'd better move on. | 14:26 |
| phillw | it's a little confusing to me :/ The amount of things TODO does not appear to go down as things 'DONE' are flagged? | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:26 |
| balloons | phillw, I added to my TODO | 14:26 |
| phillw | balloons: ah, okay! | 14:27 |
| balloons | it should all burn down... mine isn't a good example persay, heh.. but it works | 14:27 |
| phillw | okay :) | 14:27 |
| phillw | #topic New Test Case | 14:28 |
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| smartboyhw | My turn. | 14:28 |
| smartboyhw | Anyone here please read: http://sdrv.ms/ROS6Cz | 14:28 |
| smartboyhw | This is a very mere draft of a new UEFi testcase. | 14:29 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: I have to set some time with you when you are available to go through your new test case | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | OK. | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | I need someone to help writing it better. | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | Anyone volunteer? | 14:29 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: we'll chat after the meeting and arrange some time when you are available. | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | OK. | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:30 |
| phillw | #action phillw to arrange time with smartboyhw to liase on new testcase. | 14:30 |
| meetingology | ACTION: phillw to arrange time with smartboyhw to liase on new testcase. | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:31 |
| phillw | #topic Other Items | 14:31 |
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| phillw | balloons: can I pop something else onto your TODO list? | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | As it turns out, this meeting's long. | 14:31 |
| balloons | phillw, heh.. don't worry that stuff isn't all I work on | 14:32 |
| astraljava | o/ | 14:32 |
| phillw | astraljava: yes? | 14:32 |
| skaet | balloons, the burn down chart for community testing is at: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-quality-community-testing.html | 14:32 |
| astraljava | Just a heads-up, nothing big to report on Xubuntu (nor Studio), we're testing 12.04.1 images, no huge issues has come to my knowledge. | 14:32 |
| phillw | astraljava: thanks :) | 14:33 |
| astraljava | Same can be said on quantal. | 14:33 |
| smartboyhw | astraljava: You're late! | 14:33 |
| astraljava | .. | 14:33 |
| skaet | o/ | 14:33 |
| game2 | astraljava: does this have a new lowlatency kernel built? | 14:33 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:33 |
| phillw | thanks skaet | 14:33 |
| astraljava | game2: This refers to? | 14:33 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:33 |
| game2 | there were no ll kernels built after precise was released | 14:34 |
| game2 | refers to US 12.04.1 | 14:34 |
| astraljava | game2: Ahh... precise. Yes, there seems to be some confusion about -lowlatency. I'll try to sort it out. | 14:34 |
| astraljava | .. | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:34 |
| phillw | skaet: do you have something to add? | 14:35 |
| skaet | yup, just a reminder of the upcoming milestones | 14:35 |
| skaet | 12.04.1 will be switching from being built from precise to -updates after this week, so any testing to make sure there are no surprises would be very welcome around now. | 14:36 |
| skaet | 12.04.1 will be released on 8/23 | 14:36 |
| skaet | 12.10 Beta 1 will be on 9/6 | 14:37 |
| phillw | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule | 14:37 |
| smartboyhw | 12.10 Beta 2 on 27/6 | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | Final release on 18/10 | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | Coming up: FeatureFreeze on 23/30. | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | 23/8, sorry. | 14:38 |
| skaet | remaining features for quantal will be landing by 8/23 (feature freeze). | 14:38 |
| skaet | .. | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | UserInterfaceFreeze and Beta 1 Freeze on 30/8. | 14:38 |
| phillw | thanks skaet | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:39 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: I have posted the link to the meeting for anyone who does not have it as a favourite on their browser :) | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule | 14:39 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: go ahead | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | OK. | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | I have a question for balloons: Any updates on the participation for the ISO Testing Cadence? | 14:40 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, sure | 14:41 |
| balloons | We have had 10 people test now this week | 14:41 |
| balloons | something like ~30 results have been reported | 14:42 |
| balloons | I am working on trying to be able to show the status of cadence testing and to better explain it since there seems to be confusion | 14:42 |
| balloons | I can do that on the mailing list however, in reply to phillw | 14:43 |
| phillw | balloons: thanks | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | thanks balloons | 14:43 |
| balloons | in short however, the goal is to test each mandatory testcase at least once during the week.. it differs from milestones in that we are not concerned about respins, etc | 14:43 |
| balloons | .. | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Every once a day is the goal | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | The ultimate one. | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | o/ We need people to test daily images EVERYDAY. | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:45 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: that is a goal, but there are insufficient testers. Better that we use our scarce resources wisely :) | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | Well, give me the task to find daily testers, is that OK? | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | I sure I'm find somebody...:) | 14:46 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: for all flavours? It will be more than somebody! It would be several hundred each day. This is why the project of automatic testing is important. | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | Only for Ubuntu. | 14:48 |
| phillw | but we can discuss that on the -testing channel :) | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | I won't do the lubuntu and xubuntu part. | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway. | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:49 |
| phillw | balloons: has any progress been made so that the daily builds do not wipe out what has been tested on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds | 14:49 |
| phillw | #action phillw amend agenda to remove weekly report of flavours. | 14:50 |
| meetingology | ACTION: phillw amend agenda to remove weekly report of flavours. | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | !?!?!!?!!? | 14:51 |
| smartboyhw | o/ | 14:51 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: yes? | 14:51 |
| smartboyhw | Why did you remove the weekly report of flavours? | 14:51 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:53 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: it was chatted about earlier in the meeting, it will fall under 'other topics' if people from the flavours are present. | 14:53 |
| balloons | phillw, you mean in the same way as during a milestone? | 14:53 |
| smartboyhw | OK, thanks. But you should put it in the Updates section. | 14:53 |
| balloons | this week, although it's harder for you to see the previous results, they are not lost or wiped | 14:53 |
| balloons | I am counting and attempting to track them. | 14:54 |
| phillw | balloons: yes. otherwise no one knows what has been tested :) | 14:54 |
| balloons | phillw, yes, I know.. that is definitely an issue.. But we don't have a good tech solution atm to the problem | 14:54 |
| phillw | the only way I can track is by turning on the history which makes for a very long list! | 14:54 |
| balloons | if we did a traditional milestone, we'd lose results on the new iso releases | 14:54 |
| balloons | let's chat after in #testing | 14:55 |
| phillw | okies | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | Ok. | 14:55 |
| balloons | tldr, it's a problem, and I want to solve it.. longterm the tracker will get changes to do so. short-term, we need a soltion | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:55 |
| balloons | .. | 14:55 |
| phillw | anyone else got anything to add for the meeting that cannot be carried over to #ubuntu-testing? | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | No. | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | .. | 14:56 |
| phillw | ah, balloons I'm just going to sneak in a quick action for you :) | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 14:57 |
| phillw | #action balloons edit http://qa.ubuntu.com/ to reflect correct time of weekly meeting | 14:57 |
| meetingology | ACTION: balloons edit http://qa.ubuntu.com/ to reflect correct time of weekly meeting | 14:57 |
| phillw | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 14:57:40 2012 UTC. | 14:57 |
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| smartboyhw | phillw: I don't understand the last part | 14:57 |
| game2 | astraljava: thanks | 14:57 |
| phillw | hmmm.... | 14:57 |
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| smartboyhw | The weekly meeting has a correct time... | 14:58 |
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| skaet | thanks for hosting phillw | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks phillw | 15:00 |
| smartboyhw | Next week chair will be me AGAIN! | 15:00 |
| phillw | np. I'll get the wiki updated shortly. | 15:01 |
| * slangasek waves | 15:04 | |
| * stgraber waves | 15:04 | |
| jodh | o/ | 15:04 |
| doko | hi | 15:04 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:04 |
| * ogra_ yawns | 15:04 | |
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| slangasek | #topic lightning round | 15:04 |
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| smartboyhw | Wow, what's this meeting? | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | (still fighting the last remains of jetlag) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | smartboyhw: Ubuntu Foundations meeting, same one that it was last week. :) | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | smartboyhw, fridge.ubuntu.com has the calendar | 15:05 |
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | stgraber ev cjwatson jodh barry bdmurray doko xnox infinity stokachu ogra slangasek | 15:06 |
| slangasek | whoo I win | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:06 |
| stgraber | nope, I do :) | 15:06 |
| * ogra_ has silver :) | 15:06 | |
| stgraber | for some value of win ;) | 15:06 |
| doko | at least the monologue near the beginning ... | 15:06 |
| slangasek | haha | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - 12.04.1 | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - 12.04.1 team meeting and minutes | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Went through all the targeted/milestoned bugs for 12.04.1, updated status based on comments and queue status. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Verified a bunch of SRUs. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Followed wiki page on for release - 1 month and release - 3 weeks, uploading base-files. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Worked on getting the images to fit on a 703MB media again, still need to fix i386. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Fixed fglrx/fglrx-updates purge bug and uploaded by tseliot. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Now digging into bug 1029531 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1029531 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "cdromupgrade from Lucid to Precise failed with unmet dependencies without network connection" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029531 | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Other | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Some ARB app review, the app showdown made the ARB New queue reach 140 packages... Still 50 to review... | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - TODO this week | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Continue the work on 12.04.1. | 15:07 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:07 |
| ev | - Short week; holiday until Monday. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Got caught up on email. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Got involved in Seb's thread on ubuntu-release about removing the error | 15:08 |
| ev | tracker from Ubuntu 12.04.1. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Started implementing Matthew's design for the multiple errors dialog: | 15:08 |
| ev | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#When_there_are_multiple_simultaneous_errors | 15:08 |
| ev | I've taught apport to export a small dbus service to ensure only one | 15:08 |
| ev | instance of apport runs *until* the user presses the report button and the | 15:08 |
| ev | application window disappears, chugging away adding the gdb information to | 15:08 |
| ev | the report. GtkApplication didn't seem to make room for this concept of | 15:08 |
| ev | releasing the singleton, but if anyone thinks DBus is too heavy/racy for | 15:08 |
| ev | this and can come up with a better approach, I'm all ears. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Wrote a tool to calculate the 90 day moving count of unique users. Modified | 15:08 |
| ev | it to allow Ubuntu release specificity. This requires having a mapping of | 15:08 |
| ev | crash ID back to the system which reported it. As we only have data in the | 15:08 |
| ev | opposite direction, I've had to write a tool to create the needed mapping. | 15:08 |
| ev | This has been running in the background for a few hours. Once that's done, I | 15:08 |
| ev | should be able to reply to Steve's request for the day's crashes / 90 day | 15:08 |
| ev | unique user count calculation. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Helped webops land the new errors.ubuntu.com \o/. There was some fallout | 15:08 |
| ev | from me running a newer version of Django for development than what we have | 15:08 |
| ev | in production, but we have a deployment in progress to fix that. | 15:08 |
| ev | (done) | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | Working on a Python rewrite of cdimage, with unit tests. Once I have it approved for release, it's reasonably far along: e.g. I have publish-daily rewritten. | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | Deployed ubuntu-archive-tools client code to automatically approve copies, saving extra error-prone manual approval steps. | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | Finished shifting security->updates auto-copies away from lp_archive@cocoplum and into ubuntu-archive@lillypilly (over the API). We no longer have any cron jobs running as lp_archive. | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | Trying to comprehend new image build options in xorriso 1.2.4 - got advice from upstream which I've yet to digest. | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | Worked on showing LP UI audit trail for copies (bug 1032857). | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | Home internet still busted. I'm on a mobile hotspot. :-/ | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | done | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1032857 in Launchpad itself "DistributionSourcePackage:+publishinghistory should show the audit trail of copies" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032857 | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | Belatedly working on aptdaemon bug 926340. Almost done - just took a while to remind myself of how to reproduce it reliably. | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 926340 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Precise) "aptd crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _set_error(): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 9: ordinal not in range(128)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926340 | 15:10 |
| jodh | * boot/upstart: | 15:10 |
| jodh | - slanagasek and I worked on a number of branches for the best fix for | 15:10 |
| jodh | bug 980917. | 15:10 |
| jodh | - lots of testing for final branch for bug 980917 (including LXC). | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 980917 in upstart (Ubuntu Precise) "Failed to create pty - disabling logging for job [SRU]" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980917 | 15:10 |
| jodh | - my first archive upload for Upstart (for bug 980917). | 15:10 |
| jodh | - working on SRU-ifying bug 980917 and associated precise-proposed upload. | 15:10 |
| jodh | - stateful re-exec: ConfSource/ConfFiles/inotify watches handling. | 15:10 |
| jodh | Discussion with cjwatson. Work still ongoing. | 15:10 |
| ev | cdimage unit tests> wow, that will be awesome | 15:10 |
| jodh | - discussions with diwic and TheMuso re updated libjson0 package. | 15:10 |
| jodh | - raised debian bug 684058 on getting libjson0 version 0.10 added to | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 684058 in libjson0 "libjson0: json-c version 0.10 is now available." [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/684058 | 15:10 |
| jodh | Debian (and started looking at how to package that). | 15:10 |
| jodh | 𝀘 | 15:10 |
| jodh | 15:10 | |
| cjwatson | ev: nusakan:~cjwatson/python/ if you want a previous | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | er, a preview | 15:11 |
| ev | will have a look, thanks! | 15:11 |
| ev | oh man, I totes should've used an emoji character to end my report | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | no barry ? | 15:13 |
| stokachu | try xbarry :P | 15:13 |
| slangasek | jodh: first archive upload> ah, congrats :) | 15:13 |
| jodh | slangasek: thanks very much! | 15:13 |
| slangasek | barry's on vac | 15:14 |
| slangasek | bdrung: | 15:14 |
| slangasek | sorry | 15:14 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | vacation (two days) | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | test case creation for bug 818760 regarding update-manager | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | investigation into pkg origins being Ubuntu and reported apport bug 1031978 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 818760 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "update-manager crashed with timeout in readline(): timed out" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818760 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1031978 in apport (Ubuntu) "indicates a package origin of Ubuntu for Ubuntu systems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031978 | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | testing of bug 1017001 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017001 | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | fixed xulid of firefox-lp-improvements as it was identified as malware | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | resolved an issue with arsenal not loading launchpad_config information from json files | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | reported daisy bug 1032398 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1032398 in Daisy "oops ids aren't very unique" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032398 | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | reported bug 1032822 regarding json formatting at errors.ubuntu.com | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1032822 in Errors "json data returned by API could be more readable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032822 | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | investigation into oops reports without a DistroRelease | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | investigation into dist-upgrader-all and precise not being up to date | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | wrote code to get errors about a package from errors.ubuntu.com and present bug data about them | 15:14 |
| slangasek | malware? | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | ⌁ done ⌁ | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | the extension was using the xulid of firefox and so was a piece of malware | 15:15 |
| slangasek | heh | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | which had it first? | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779014 | 15:16 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 779014 in Blocklisting "Blocklist malicious "Adobe Flash Player 12.4.0" extension" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:16 |
| ev | bdmurray: massive thanks for the errors.ubuntu.com stuff! | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | the firefox-lp-improvements extension should have had a unique id I just didn't realize that... | 15:17 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:18 | |
| slangasek | doko: | 15:18 |
| doko | - the 'I hate multiarch' week | 15:18 |
| doko | - got feedback for the gcc-multiarch patch from a fourth reviewer after pinging, having two valid | 15:18 |
| doko | points, and contrary points to the other reviewers. fun ... | 15:18 |
| doko | - looked at the upstream python3.3 build issue, which didn't have to do anything with the cross p | 15:18 |
| doko | atches, but with an incomplete multiarch patch. | 15:18 |
| doko | - binutils updates | 15:18 |
| doko | - openjdk updates still pending | 15:18 |
| doko | (done) | 15:18 |
| slangasek | doko: put the reviewers in a room together, and whichever ones survive, implement their recommendation? :) | 15:19 |
| doko | I would like to ... | 15:19 |
| slangasek | xnox: still here? | 15:20 |
| xnox | Bits I did today: | 15:20 |
| xnox | * did an upload of ubiquity and partman-crypto to land automatic | 15:20 |
| xnox | recipe for full-disk encrypted installation. | 15:20 |
| xnox | * confirmed removal from quantal of: | 15:20 |
| xnox | - ichtux (meta-packages / derivative) | 15:20 |
| xnox | - boost1.46 | 15:20 |
| xnox | (done) | 15:20 |
| infinity | Apparently yes. | 15:20 |
| stokachu | xnox: hows that rdepends test suit coming | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | quite a lot for a vacation day | 15:21 |
| infinity | - worked on SRU and AA tasks | 15:21 |
| infinity | - worked with lamont on new Panda buildds some more | 15:21 |
| infinity | - helped look into CD size issues for 12.04.1 | 15:21 |
| infinity | - did a couple of merges, and a bit of +1 fixing | 15:21 |
| infinity | - worked on eglibc updates for both quantal and precise | 15:21 |
| infinity | - possibly other stuff I've forgotten in my old age | 15:21 |
| infinity | [...] | 15:21 |
| doko | 2.16 for q? | 15:21 |
| slangasek | stokachu: are you blocked on that? I thought we managed to manual rebuilds of the revdeps for our multiarch libs? | 15:21 |
| stokachu | Customer cases took priority this week, still running rdepends on a few packages (libgnomevfs rdeps on libreoffice wtf..) | 15:21 |
| infinity | doko: That's still a maybe, but for now, just mirroring some SRU backporting. | 15:22 |
| stokachu | slangasek: yea im doing it manually | 15:22 |
| slangasek | stokachu: ah, is it still ongoing? | 15:22 |
| infinity | doko: I need to look at what aurel's done for 2.16 in Debian. | 15:22 |
| stokachu | slangasek: yea gnome-vfs takes foreverrrrr | 15:22 |
| slangasek | stokachu: note that for this purpose we *only* need test rebuilds of the direct reverse-dependencies | 15:22 |
| slangasek | so none of the level2 and above stuff identified in xnox's report... | 15:22 |
| * xnox hides | 15:22 | |
| stokachu | slangasek: im using a script stgraber sent me | 15:22 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:22 |
| stokachu | so stgraber does that script show only direct rdeps? | 15:23 |
| stokachu | i would love to trim this testing down | 15:23 |
| slangasek | infinity: 2.16 in Debian> you mentioned something about experimental staging... I guess any of that is still in the VCS? | 15:23 |
| stgraber | yeah, it's only direct rdeps for all binary packages built by the source | 15:23 |
| stokachu | ok cool | 15:23 |
| stgraber | you may be able to trim it down a bit by limiting the list of binary packages to only these that you care about | 15:23 |
| stokachu | slangasek: so yea libreoffice is part of the direct rdeps which takes forever | 15:23 |
| infinity | slangasek: Right, aurel committed some bits to Debian SVN, haven't had a chance to see how far he got. | 15:23 |
| slangasek | stokachu, stgraber: we only care about the ones that build-depend on libgnomevfs2-dev | 15:24 |
| stokachu | slangasek: is that for all packages i want to test? | 15:24 |
| slangasek | seems to be a much shorter list | 15:24 |
| stokachu | just -dev? | 15:24 |
| stgraber | infinity: ETA on eglibc in -proposed? | 15:24 |
| slangasek | stokachu: yeah | 15:24 |
| infinity | stgraber: "real soon". | 15:24 |
| stokachu | slangasek: awesome ill do that then... will trim the testing down big time | 15:25 |
| stgraber | infinity: before tomorrow 21:00 UTC? | 15:25 |
| infinity | stgraber: I'll try my best to hit that for you. | 15:25 |
| stokachu | lastly, doing another month of +1 | 15:25 |
| stokachu | (done) | 15:25 |
| slangasek | stokachu: revised list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136312/ | 15:25 |
| stokachu | slangasek: that is a much better list | 15:25 |
| slangasek | stokachu: sorry, didn't realize you were wasting time on other kinds of revdeps :/ | 15:26 |
| stokachu | slangasek: thats cool i was merely just taking the script and running the tests didn't really dig into it | 15:27 |
| stokachu | i should have those rdeps tested today then | 15:27 |
| slangasek | stokachu: anything else from you for the lightning round? | 15:27 |
| * xnox off to volleyball =) bye | 15:27 | |
| * slangasek waves to xnox | 15:27 | |
| stokachu | slangasek: im done | 15:27 |
| ev | xnox: enjoy | 15:28 |
| * ogra_ fires up the livestream ... to make sure xnox is on time at the game :) | 15:28 | |
| ogra_ | done: | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * QA sprint http://ograblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/the-bamboo-feeder-automating-continuous-arm-image-tests/ (lots of positive feedback) | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * started on flash-kernel vs live-installer fixes | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * work started on transitioning all of flash-kernel bootloader handling to use /etc/default/flash-kernel as a source for the bootloader cmdline | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * lots of jetlag | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | todo: | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * finish live-installer vs flash-kernel fixing | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * finish /etc/default/flash-kernel work | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * set up a bamboo feeder locally (i brought a bunch of pandas home) to move on with script development | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * make flash-kernel upgrades work with the new bootloader handling | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | * clean up spec items that wont make FF, work on the ones that will | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | EOF | 15:28 |
| slangasek | bamboo feeder> heh | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * SRU processing, focused on 12.04.1 preparation | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * reviewing upstart bugfix branches - now landed in quantal! | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * discussions around how to improve the crashdb client behavior for 12.04 | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * investigating EFI netboot support | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * managing secureboot insecurities | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * upcoming: | 15:29 |
| slangasek | * more helping with 12.04.1 | 15:30 |
| slangasek | * doc appt. this afternoon | 15:30 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:30 |
| slangasek | any questions? | 15:30 |
| slangasek | #topic Ḃųǵṡ | 15:31 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ḃųǵṡ | ||
| * xnox there is a bug with slangasek irc client, or so it appears to | 15:32 | |
| stokachu | http://pad.lv/977964 - if someone has time to provide feedback to my latest comment i'd appreciate it | 15:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977964 in libart-lgpl (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libart-lgpl to multi-arch" [Medium,In progress] | 15:32 |
| slangasek | hmph, frail bot | 15:32 |
| slangasek | #topic Bugs | 15:32 |
| slangasek | right, whatever :) | 15:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs | ||
| slangasek | bdmurray: what's defective? | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I don't have anything specific today | 15:33 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | stokachu: I think ScottK is saying (and I'm inclined to agree) that any changes to precise should be based on the package in precise, not based on the package in quantal - you need to extract the necessary changes rather than just backporting the quantal package | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | s/that/is that/ | 15:34 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: ok | 15:34 |
| * slangasek has a peek at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 15:35 | |
| stokachu | or should i target quantal and create a new precise bug | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | well, the changes need to go into quantal if they haven't already | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | but there's no need for a separate bug, since this one is already targeted to precise (and apparently fix-released in quantal ...) | 15:36 |
| stokachu | ok ill fix the patch and re-submit for approval | 15:36 |
| stokachu | thanks for the help | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | bearing in mind I don't know much about this package, this is just generalised sru advice | 15:37 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: understood, i think this debdiff was originally done by another team member and i never did any proper inspection on it | 15:38 |
| slangasek | hmm, bug #892370 continues to linger | 15:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 892370 in OEM Priority Project quantal "The time zone for China should default to Beijing not Shanghai (when offline)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892370 | 15:38 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: i believe its already in quantal | 15:38 |
| stokachu | just need to specifics for precise and it'd be good to go | 15:38 |
| smartboyhw | Good bug, that 892370! | 15:38 |
| slangasek | cjwatson, stgraber, ev: any of you willing to take jmleddy's patch to tzdata and run with it? | 15:40 |
| ev | -ENOTIME | 15:40 |
| slangasek | maybe that bug is too much to digest in an IRC meeting :) | 15:42 |
| cjwatson | Even additions to tzdata should go upstream, IMO | 15:42 |
| slangasek | should we ask jmleddy to do that, then? | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | Otherwise TZ is incompatible with other systems (e.g. chroots, ssh env forwarding, etc.) | 15:43 |
| * cjwatson tries to remember where the translations live | 15:43 | |
| cjwatson | tzsetup maybe? | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | I'm honestly not sure at this point where that lives, and I'm not sure I can promise time to figure it out | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | Forwarding the tzdata patch upstream would be an easy way for jmleddy to move forward if he thinks that's correct | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | or convince china to just flip the names of the cities ? | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | Ah, Shanghai isn't translated in tzsetup because we force CN to Shanghai rather than offering all the possible choices there | 15:47 |
| slangasek | ogra_: but then the etymology of Beijing would make no sense :) | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | So it'd have to be done in ubiquity if we were doing a translation hack | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | But Beijing is the capital | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | details :P | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | Which then wouldn't help the other affected applications, which IIRC there are some | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: we weren't being serious | 15:48 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: can you follow up to the bug (or on IRC) to ask jmleddy to get this upstreamed? | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | If you don't fix it, the Chinesee authorities won't allow Ubuntu to go into China. | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: Done | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: Please don't exaggerate | 15:49 |
| slangasek | heh | 15:49 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: thanks :) | 15:49 |
| slangasek | #topic Blueprints | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | since we are at bugs ... | 15:50 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Blueprints | ||
| slangasek | ogra_: too late! | 15:50 |
| slangasek | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-foundations.html | 15:50 |
| slangasek | burndown's looking a bit rough :P | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | i'll try to move along with bug 1028905 myself, but i fear i'll need some cjwatson help at some point | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1028905 in cdrom-detect (Ubuntu Quantal) "cdrom-detect in quantal omap4 hangs trying to look for install media on an extended partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028905 | 15:50 |
| slangasek | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/all-quantal-alpha-3.html shows some 80 WIs targeted to alpha-3 that didn't get in | 15:51 |
| slangasek | I know 12.04.1 has pulled a lot of effort away from quantal development for this first part of the cycle, but please make it a focus for the next couple of weeks to get these back on track | 15:52 |
| slangasek | and we'll discuss one-on-one if there are things that need cutting | 15:52 |
| slangasek | questions/concerns? | 15:53 |
| slangasek | oh... 80 WIs is across all teams, our outstanding count is < 10 ;) | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | I marked my one of those done earlier | 15:54 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: groovy, thanks | 15:54 |
| slangasek | #topic AOB | 15:55 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | anything else? | 15:55 |
| infinity | I could use a snack. | 15:56 |
| infinity | Does that count? | 15:56 |
| * ogra_ hands infinity a snickers | 15:56 | |
| slangasek | only if it's a business snack | 15:56 |
| * cjwatson uploads the aptdaemon SRU candidate - can that still make it? | 15:57 | |
| slangasek | I think it should | 15:57 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: yes | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | (should be in the queue in ~5 mins) | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | ~3 actually | 15:57 |
| slangasek | \o/ | 15:58 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 15:58:16 2012 UTC. | 15:58 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-08-15.04.moin.txt | 15:58 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-08-15.04.html | 15:58 |
| slangasek | thanks all | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | thanks slangasek | 15:58 |
| jodh | thanks! | 15:58 |
| infinity | o/ | 15:58 |
| ev | thanks | 15:58 |
| brendand | skaet, which daily can we use for 12.04.1 smoke testing? | 16:11 |
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| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| === james__ is now known as jmleddy | ||
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