| trijntje | Hi all, I do testing on a real system, not a virtual one. How should I submit a hardware profile? | 06:50 |
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| astraljava | trijntje: Here is a guide on Xubuntu, but it makes no difference what the flavor is, if any (meaning vanilla). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/HardwareProfile | 08:08 |
| trijntje | astraljava: thanks! Is it possible to use that tool to just create a hardware profile,without running any of the tests? | 08:12 |
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| astraljava | trijntje: I believe so, I haven't used it myself, yet. | 10:09 |
| trijntje | ah well, one way to find out ;) | 10:26 |
| smartboyhw | HI! | 11:25 |
| sagaci | ~4.5 til the meeting | 11:26 |
| smartboyhw | Yep, I'll be there. | 11:26 |
| smartboyhw | It's 1400 GMT. | 11:26 |
| sagaci | sorry, 2.5 hours | 11:26 |
| smartboyhw | sagaci: phillw will be chair, you know that? | 11:37 |
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| sagaci | yup | 11:54 |
| sagaci | it's scheduled for midnight my time | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | Oh, that's bad. | 11:55 |
| letozaf_ | Hello my name is Carla I would like to know if it's possible to use testdrive to test quantal ISOs as I see only precise ones configured, I tried to add quantal's one in the "other" tab, but it just seem not work | 12:44 |
| letozaf_ | sorry got disconnect, now I'm back | 12:46 |
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| smartboyhw | Yes, letozaf_ | 13:03 |
| letozaf_ | Hello my name is Carla I would like to know if it's possible to use testdrive to test Quantal ISOs as I see only Precise ones configured, I tried to add Quantal's one in the "other" tab, but it just seem not work | 13:22 |
| jpds | letozaf_: Someone replied: < smartboyhw> Yes, letozaf_ | 13:29 |
| smartboyhw | Wait, I'm busying uploading Win 8 LPs. | 13:33 |
| sagaci | letozaf_, the testdrive-gtk pulls quantal isos by default | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah, it should be using Quantal ISOs... | 13:37 |
| letozaf__ | but on testdrive I get (precise) written in the description instead on quantal | 13:44 |
| letozaf__ | do you mean that the ISOs are quantal's all the same ? | 13:45 |
| astraljava | letozaf__: Please hold for a moment, I'll check in a minute. | 13:49 |
| letozaf__ | thank you | 13:49 |
| balloons | letozaf__, I believe testdrive let's you select which distro in preferences | 13:52 |
| astraljava | letozaf__: In the Preferences, make sure you have selected the quantal in the combobox under Ubuntu Releases, this can be found on the General tab. | 13:52 |
| balloons | make sure you've selected quantal | 13:52 |
| letozaf__ | ok thank you | 13:52 |
| letozaf__ | I'll check | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | balloons, Hi! | 13:53 |
| letozaf__ | yes you're right thanks again :) | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | I did the ISO Testing Cadence. | 13:53 |
| * balloons waves | 13:53 | |
| balloons | smartboyhw, awesome | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | Let's see what will happen in today's meeting. | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | Starting in 6 minutes. | 13:54 |
| balloons | I guess it's a little confusing.. I know the tracker isn't setup nicely to show what we're trying to do sadly | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | Just finished uploading 38 Windows 8 RTM LPs to MDL forums guys. Really tired. | 13:55 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, interesting | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | Those guys all thank me for that. | 13:56 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: you might be interested to know that your changes to checkbox are now in quantal! | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | congrats, me4oslav | 13:57 |
| me4oslav | cr3 smartboyhw which changes? :) The home screen MR or the entire UI design change? ::) | 13:58 |
| smartboyhw | Ask cr4 | 13:58 |
| smartboyhw | cr3, sorry | 13:58 |
| smartboyhw | Is phillw here!? He is the chair! | 13:58 |
| me4oslav | well, I did mentioned cr3 too :D | 13:59 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: he is and has just logged on to -meeting :D | 13:59 |
| balloons | phillw reporting in | 13:59 |
| balloons | lol | 14:00 |
| smartboyhw | YEAH! | 14:00 |
| smartboyhw | Meeting started! | 14:00 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: can you point me to your entire UI design change MR? | 14:12 |
| me4oslav | cr3, there isn't a MR -_- There is just a pretty sketched design :D https://picasaweb.google.com/100530892038948253747/CheckboxQT | 14:13 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: without a MR, you can be sure those changes aren't in quantal :) | 14:14 |
| me4oslav | cr3, the things is the design I created is something I can't code :D I have to talk with the folks that are working on the main UI to get it implemented :) | 14:15 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: you might be happy to know that someone is already working on unifying the scrollboxes with the list of tests and statuses | 14:16 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: actually, it's done already. please pull the latest changes from trunk and run ./bin/checkbox-qt | 14:17 |
| smartboyhw | !support | cr3 | 14:18 |
| ubot5` | cr3: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | !support | me4oslav | 14:18 |
| ubot5` | me4oslav: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | This channel is for testing issues, dude! | 14:18 |
| stgraber | smartboyhw: and development discussions on checkbox (a testing tool) are perfectly appropriate | 14:19 |
| cr3 | smartboyhw: checkbox is also for testing :) | 14:19 |
| cr3 | smartboyhw: in theory, checkbox could have its own channel but, in practice, there's not a lot of traffic about checkbox nor testing issues so it seems reasonable to share the same channel | 14:20 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, guys, stay focused at the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting. | 14:20 |
| brendand | me4oslav, do you have checkbox 0.14.3 installed? if not what version do you have? | 14:46 |
| me4oslav | brendand - the latest trunk | 14:46 |
| brendand | me4oslav, try apt-get install checkbox-qt and see if it offers a version | 14:48 |
| brendand | new version | 14:48 |
| me4oslav | brendand, I'm on P ... will that do the trick? | 14:48 |
| cr3 | brendand: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:checkbox-dev; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install checkbox checkbox-qt | 14:49 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: ^^^ that'll do the trick :) | 14:49 |
| cr3 | the checkbox-dev ppa contains the latest crack of the day | 14:49 |
| me4oslav | cr3, MY HERO :D | 14:49 |
| sagaci | Ive been testing the regular desktop 32/64bit images and I can commit to doing that every few days especially around this part of the cycle just to make sure there nothing majorly wrong | 14:49 |
| cr3 | balloons: ^^^ any particular tests you think sagaci should be running? | 14:50 |
| balloons | hey cr3 ! | 14:51 |
| balloons | sagaci, yes you can test things that have been setup as a 'call for testing' on the package tracker | 14:51 |
| balloons | I assume you have used the isotracker in the past to report results on your iso testing ?http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 14:52 |
| sagaci | righteo I'll check it out tomorrow. Painful typing on Android teamviewer. | 14:53 |
| njin | ballons: hallo, how can I see my testecase preview for bind9 http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases | 14:54 |
| brendand | me4oslav, are you able to run checkbox? | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Can I co-ordinate the daily ISO testing? | 14:56 |
| balloons | sagaci, ok, well the package tracker is http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/. | 14:56 |
| me4oslav | brendand, behold: http://i.imgur.com/wHDYN.png | 14:56 |
| balloons | sagaci, Email me https://launchpad.net/~nskaggs and I can share much more info and get you started, since your on your phone :-) | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Read my question? | 14:57 |
| sagaci | thanks, I'll have a read through it | 14:57 |
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| brendand | me4oslav, you mean it's hanging like that? | 14:58 |
| me4oslav | brendand ... yup ;s And I can start it from trunk | 14:58 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: http://qa.ubuntu.com/ does not have the correct time, and it needs a Canonical person to edit it. | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | Oh! | 14:59 |
| brendand | cr3, can we reproduce what me4oslav is seeing? | 15:00 |
| phillw | I'm a wiki editor, but I don't have access to that area of the wikis :) | 15:00 |
| me4oslav | brendand cr3 - probably not ... checkbox loathes me :D | 15:00 |
| balloons | njin, hey :-) yes, looking at it now | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | Oh, that one. Thanks, phillw | 15:01 |
| brendand | me4oslav, can you make sure trunk is fully up to date (bzr pull) | 15:01 |
| me4oslav | brendand, well I did "bzr branch lp:checkbox" like 10 mins ago, so :) | 15:02 |
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| brendand | me4oslav, let's try running from trunk | 15:04 |
| me4oslav | brendand, it fired up without any issues :) Now what? :P | 15:04 |
| cr3 | brendand: better to look at the logs than try to reproduce | 15:05 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: you upgraded both checkbox and checkbox-qt, right? | 15:05 |
| me4oslav | cr3 - yes, but who cares if it doesn't run _for me_ if it is installed? It works from trunk :D | 15:07 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: if it doesn't work for you, maybe it doesn't work for others. it would be nice to know for sure | 15:08 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: I would really appreciate if you could take a moment to report a bug and attach the logs from ~/.cache/checkbox | 15:09 |
| me4oslav | cr3 Hardly the case, a few weeks ago I did some terrible things w/ it (ran commands I shouldn't have ran) and since then it works only from tunk -_- | 15:10 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: in that case, you might like to rm -fr ~/.cache/checkbox and try again | 15:10 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: if that doesn't work, try to apt-get purge all checkbox related packages and try installing again | 15:11 |
| me4oslav | cr3, removing that did didn't do a thing. I will remove and try again ... but like I said I have screwed it in major way | 15:13 |
| cr3 | me4oslav: make sure to purge, that should remove all traces of things you might've done :) | 15:14 |
| balloons | njin, I think I want to see it on the website | 15:30 |
| balloons | you can remove the template stuff at the bottom | 15:30 |
| cr3 | balloons: the qa dashboard link on this page returns status code 404: http://qa.ubuntu.com/report-list/ | 15:34 |
| balloons | njin, on the testcase side, looks good, just needs the 'expected results' added to the steps | 15:34 |
| smartboyhw | 404!!?!!?! | 15:35 |
| njin | ballons, yes, but I cannot figure out haw to see the preview for it | 15:35 |
| balloons | cr3, ahh.. good catch | 15:36 |
| balloons | that's moved as you can tell | 15:36 |
| balloons | njin, I'm not sure what accessyou have in the tool | 15:36 |
| cr3 | balloons: indeed, just thought you'd be the right person to update the website accordingly | 15:36 |
| balloons | njin, I put it here: http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/16266/testcases/1311/results | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Who's android-lee? I looked at the Top testers (current milestones) lists, and he's the first on it! | 15:37 |
| balloons | njin, in order to do that I added it to a product and created the build | 15:38 |
| balloons | I wonder if you are able to do this or not.. not sure how much access your permissions give you | 15:38 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, android-lee is a tester | 15:39 |
| balloons | just like you | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | Wow, he's real active. | 15:39 |
| njin | smartboyhw, he's a great fun of bruce -lee | 15:40 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 15:41 |
| njin | ballons, what do you think to run server in VM and take some screenshot of the default install + the expected results for the verifies ? | 15:44 |
| njin | ballons, bwetter not | 15:47 |
| balloons | screenshots? | 15:48 |
| balloons | njin, yes we discussed the idea of screenshots in the past | 15:49 |
| balloons | we've stuck with text for the most part | 15:49 |
| njin | balloons, yes it can be good for the server, but for the desktop I think it needs a continuous upgrade work | 15:51 |
| balloons | njin, so if you can make sure the testcase follows the format of do A, expect B it should be all set | 15:57 |
| balloons | njin, notice it uses html tags. | 15:58 |
| njin | ballons, I've noted just now, writing the testcase that we have to choose two times the language... LOL | 18:22 |
| njin | balloons:^^ | 18:24 |
| njin | I've to open another bug report | 18:25 |
| balloons | two times the language? | 18:25 |
| njin | yes, the firat at the start of the splash screen and the second at the language selection | 18:25 |
| njin | firat/first | 18:26 |
| njin | I'm wrong ? | 18:26 |
| balloons | ohh | 18:27 |
| balloons | I understnad, I thinki | 18:27 |
| balloons | hmm.. which iso did this appen on? | 18:27 |
| * balloons is still getting today's iso's | 18:27 | |
| njin | today server 8debian installer | 18:27 |
| njin | today's build of server | 18:28 |
| njin | but in general all debian installer | 18:28 |
| balloons | ahh | 18:29 |
| balloons | so the alternate images? | 18:29 |
| njin | yes | 18:30 |
| njin | debian too | 18:30 |
| njin | ( not secure about debian) | 18:30 |
| njin | balloons, seems to me that chrisccoulson is working on it, so I open a report. I've run that installer hundreds of times and nevwer noted this fact | 18:35 |
| balloons | njin, ok | 18:35 |
| balloons | that is quite odd | 18:35 |
| balloons | I ran into something with ubiquity yesterday that was also weird on language | 18:35 |
| balloons | so I thought maybe that was what you were talking about | 18:36 |
| njin | balloons, http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/16266/testcases/1311/results the first (default instalation) is done and verified step by step | 20:06 |
| balloons | njin, ok one sec | 20:08 |
| balloons | njin, ahh, so your starting to convert the server testcases :-) | 20:09 |
| balloons | cool | 20:09 |
| njin | tomorrow I will do a real hardware installation to see the difference with the wireless | 20:09 |
| njin | yes | 20:09 |
| balloons | You can remove the case id at the top | 20:09 |
| balloons | let me look at the behind the scenes and check the formatting :-) | 20:10 |
| njin | ok, tomorrow I will write the walkthrought | 20:10 |
| njin | now i've to go, see you soon | 20:11 |
| balloons | njin, | 20:11 |
| balloons | njin, k.. let's talk tomorrow when your around | 20:11 |
| njin | ok | 20:11 |
| balloons | phillw, ping | 21:01 |
| phillw | balloons: pong | 21:05 |
| balloons | phillw, check out my response to Lance and the wiki page | 21:06 |
| balloons | I hope it helps a little.. I realize the idea is still a bit confusing and off | 21:07 |
| balloons | if there's anything else I can do to help clarify or make it easier let me know | 21:07 |
| phillw | thanks for the reply. | 21:08 |
| balloons | also, while I have you. I need to schedule that meeting | 21:08 |
| phillw | frustrated testers are not productive testers :) | 21:09 |
| balloons | heh.. it's a big agenda.. everything to do about iso testing.. the scheduling, how we're doing it, the communication, respins, the testcases we're running | 21:09 |
| balloons | all of it needs discussed | 21:09 |
| balloons | so, my question to you is what's the best format for the lubuntu guys? | 21:09 |
| balloons | irc, video hangout, combination? | 21:09 |
| balloons | and what's the best time in general to meet (in UTC)? | 21:10 |
| phillw | I'm pretty sure that for a one off, they'd be flexible. Best way would be to put the poll to allow people to state when they could attend a special meeting. for such a thing, I'm available at any time. | 21:11 |
| balloons | yes, I thought about polling | 21:13 |
| balloons | but honestly it's such a big discussion it's going to end up as several meetings.. perhaps not | 21:13 |
| balloons | perhaps a mailing list thread is best | 21:13 |
| balloons | i'm going to have a think on it | 21:14 |
| phillw | maybe start something along the lines of a whiteboard? | 21:16 |
| balloons | phillw, hmm.. ok, elaborate if you would | 21:18 |
| phillw | balloons: along the lines of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items ? I'm trying to find the live whiteboard! | 21:20 |
| balloons | phillw, :-) | 21:25 |
| phillw | we have found it invaluable. We can bring up topics, the devs can tell us where things are upto etc. | 21:29 |
| balloons | phillw, send me a link whenever you find it again.. no rush | 21:32 |
| phillw | balloons: (22:40:07) phillw: hi Boss, do you have the link to the quantal whiteboard to hand? (The one that we can actually edit, not the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items one). | 21:44 |
| phillw | (22:40:46) Julien: it's the one on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items | 21:44 |
| phillw | (22:41:01) phillw: hmm, how do you edit it? | 21:44 |
| phillw | (22:41:04) Julien: there is a section "Whiteboard" which you can edit | 21:44 |
| phillw | (22:41:22) Julien: you are login in launchpad ? | 21:44 |
| phillw | (22:41:30) phillw: got it! | 21:44 |
| phillw | i've changed the irc nick as he does not get pinged. | 21:45 |
| phillw | *so as he does not get pinged* | 21:45 |
| phillw | it looks like kate set them up, I'm sure she can provide further information as to how they function. Another option is the etherpad as used by the release team? | 21:53 |
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