[06:50] Hi all, I do testing on a real system, not a virtual one. How should I submit a hardware profile? [08:08] trijntje: Here is a guide on Xubuntu, but it makes no difference what the flavor is, if any (meaning vanilla). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/HardwareProfile [08:12] astraljava: thanks! Is it possible to use that tool to just create a hardware profile,without running any of the tests? === jcollado1 is now known as jcollado [10:09] trijntje: I believe so, I haven't used it myself, yet. [10:26] ah well, one way to find out ;) [11:25] HI! [11:26] ~4.5 til the meeting [11:26] Yep, I'll be there. [11:26] It's 1400 GMT. [11:26] sorry, 2.5 hours [11:37] sagaci: phillw will be chair, you know that? === zyga is now known as zyga-food [11:54] yup [11:54] it's scheduled for midnight my time [11:55] Oh, that's bad. [12:44] Hello my name is Carla I would like to know if it's possible to use testdrive to test quantal ISOs as I see only precise ones configured, I tried to add quantal's one in the "other" tab, but it just seem not work [12:46] sorry got disconnect, now I'm back === zyga-food is now known as zyga [13:03] Yes, letozaf_ [13:22] Hello my name is Carla I would like to know if it's possible to use testdrive to test Quantal ISOs as I see only Precise ones configured, I tried to add Quantal's one in the "other" tab, but it just seem not work [13:29] letozaf_: Someone replied: < smartboyhw> Yes, letozaf_ [13:33] Wait, I'm busying uploading Win 8 LPs. [13:34] letozaf_, the testdrive-gtk pulls quantal isos by default [13:37] Yeah, it should be using Quantal ISOs... [13:44] but on testdrive I get (precise) written in the description instead on quantal [13:45] do you mean that the ISOs are quantal's all the same ? [13:49] letozaf__: Please hold for a moment, I'll check in a minute. [13:49] thank you [13:52] letozaf__, I believe testdrive let's you select which distro in preferences [13:52] letozaf__: In the Preferences, make sure you have selected the quantal in the combobox under Ubuntu Releases, this can be found on the General tab. [13:52] make sure you've selected quantal [13:52] ok thank you [13:52] I'll check [13:53] balloons, Hi! [13:53] yes you're right thanks again :) [13:53] I did the ISO Testing Cadence. [13:53] * balloons waves [13:53] smartboyhw, awesome [13:54] Let's see what will happen in today's meeting. [13:54] Starting in 6 minutes. [13:54] I guess it's a little confusing.. I know the tracker isn't setup nicely to show what we're trying to do sadly [13:55] Just finished uploading 38 Windows 8 RTM LPs to MDL forums guys. Really tired. [13:55] smartboyhw, interesting [13:56] Those guys all thank me for that. [13:56] me4oslav: you might be interested to know that your changes to checkbox are now in quantal! [13:57] congrats, me4oslav [13:58] cr3 smartboyhw which changes? :) The home screen MR or the entire UI design change? ::) [13:58] Ask cr4 [13:58] cr3, sorry [13:58] Is phillw here!? He is the chair! [13:59] well, I did mentioned cr3 too :D [13:59] smartboyhw: he is and has just logged on to -meeting :D [13:59] phillw reporting in [14:00] lol [14:00] YEAH! [14:00] Meeting started! [14:12] me4oslav: can you point me to your entire UI design change MR? [14:13] cr3, there isn't a MR -_- There is just a pretty sketched design :D https://picasaweb.google.com/100530892038948253747/CheckboxQT [14:14] me4oslav: without a MR, you can be sure those changes aren't in quantal :) [14:15] cr3, the things is the design I created is something I can't code :D I have to talk with the folks that are working on the main UI to get it implemented :) [14:16] me4oslav: you might be happy to know that someone is already working on unifying the scrollboxes with the list of tests and statuses [14:17] me4oslav: actually, it's done already. please pull the latest changes from trunk and run ./bin/checkbox-qt [14:18] !support | cr3 [14:18] cr3: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com [14:18] !support | me4oslav [14:18] me4oslav: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com [14:18] This channel is for testing issues, dude! [14:19] smartboyhw: and development discussions on checkbox (a testing tool) are perfectly appropriate [14:19] smartboyhw: checkbox is also for testing :) [14:20] smartboyhw: in theory, checkbox could have its own channel but, in practice, there's not a lot of traffic about checkbox nor testing issues so it seems reasonable to share the same channel [14:20] Hmm, guys, stay focused at the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting. [14:46] me4oslav, do you have checkbox 0.14.3 installed? if not what version do you have? [14:46] brendand - the latest trunk [14:48] me4oslav, try apt-get install checkbox-qt and see if it offers a version [14:48] new version [14:48] brendand, I'm on P ... will that do the trick? [14:49] brendand: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:checkbox-dev; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install checkbox checkbox-qt [14:49] me4oslav: ^^^ that'll do the trick :) [14:49] the checkbox-dev ppa contains the latest crack of the day [14:49] cr3, MY HERO :D [14:49] Ive been testing the regular desktop 32/64bit images and I can commit to doing that every few days especially around this part of the cycle just to make sure there nothing majorly wrong [14:50] balloons: ^^^ any particular tests you think sagaci should be running? [14:51] hey cr3 ! [14:51] sagaci, yes you can test things that have been setup as a 'call for testing' on the package tracker [14:52] I assume you have used the isotracker in the past to report results on your iso testing ?http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [14:53] righteo I'll check it out tomorrow. Painful typing on Android teamviewer. [14:54] ballons: hallo, how can I see my testecase preview for bind9 http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases [14:55] me4oslav, are you able to run checkbox? [14:56] balloons: Can I co-ordinate the daily ISO testing? [14:56] sagaci, ok, well the package tracker is http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/. [14:56] brendand, behold: http://i.imgur.com/wHDYN.png [14:57] sagaci, Email me https://launchpad.net/~nskaggs and I can share much more info and get you started, since your on your phone :-) [14:57] balloons: Read my question? [14:57] thanks, I'll have a read through it === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|on_the_p === mmrazik|on_the_p is now known as mmrazik|otp [14:58] me4oslav, you mean it's hanging like that? [14:58] brendand ... yup ;s And I can start it from trunk [14:59] smartboyhw: http://qa.ubuntu.com/ does not have the correct time, and it needs a Canonical person to edit it. [14:59] Oh! [15:00] cr3, can we reproduce what me4oslav is seeing? [15:00] I'm a wiki editor, but I don't have access to that area of the wikis :) [15:00] brendand cr3 - probably not ... checkbox loathes me :D [15:01] njin, hey :-) yes, looking at it now [15:01] Oh, that one. Thanks, phillw [15:01] me4oslav, can you make sure trunk is fully up to date (bzr pull) [15:02] brendand, well I did "bzr branch lp:checkbox" like 10 mins ago, so :) === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [15:04] me4oslav, let's try running from trunk [15:04] brendand, it fired up without any issues :) Now what? :P [15:05] brendand: better to look at the logs than try to reproduce [15:05] me4oslav: you upgraded both checkbox and checkbox-qt, right? [15:07] cr3 - yes, but who cares if it doesn't run _for me_ if it is installed? It works from trunk :D [15:08] me4oslav: if it doesn't work for you, maybe it doesn't work for others. it would be nice to know for sure [15:09] me4oslav: I would really appreciate if you could take a moment to report a bug and attach the logs from ~/.cache/checkbox [15:10] cr3 Hardly the case, a few weeks ago I did some terrible things w/ it (ran commands I shouldn't have ran) and since then it works only from tunk -_- [15:10] me4oslav: in that case, you might like to rm -fr ~/.cache/checkbox and try again [15:11] me4oslav: if that doesn't work, try to apt-get purge all checkbox related packages and try installing again [15:13] cr3, removing that did didn't do a thing. I will remove and try again ... but like I said I have screwed it in major way [15:14] me4oslav: make sure to purge, that should remove all traces of things you might've done :) [15:30] njin, I think I want to see it on the website [15:30] you can remove the template stuff at the bottom [15:34] balloons: the qa dashboard link on this page returns status code 404: http://qa.ubuntu.com/report-list/ [15:34] njin, on the testcase side, looks good, just needs the 'expected results' added to the steps [15:35] 404!!?!!?! [15:35] ballons, yes, but I cannot figure out haw to see the preview for it [15:36] cr3, ahh.. good catch [15:36] that's moved as you can tell [15:36] njin, I'm not sure what accessyou have in the tool [15:36] balloons: indeed, just thought you'd be the right person to update the website accordingly [15:36] njin, I put it here: http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/16266/testcases/1311/results [15:37] balloons: Who's android-lee? I looked at the Top testers (current milestones) lists, and he's the first on it! [15:38] njin, in order to do that I added it to a product and created the build [15:38] I wonder if you are able to do this or not.. not sure how much access your permissions give you [15:39] smartboyhw, android-lee is a tester [15:39] just like you [15:39] Wow, he's real active. [15:40] smartboyhw, he's a great fun of bruce -lee [15:41] ... [15:44] ballons, what do you think to run server in VM and take some screenshot of the default install + the expected results for the verifies ? [15:47] ballons, bwetter not [15:48] screenshots? [15:49] njin, yes we discussed the idea of screenshots in the past [15:49] we've stuck with text for the most part [15:51] balloons, yes it can be good for the server, but for the desktop I think it needs a continuous upgrade work [15:57] njin, so if you can make sure the testcase follows the format of do A, expect B it should be all set [15:58] njin, notice it uses html tags. [18:22] ballons, I've noted just now, writing the testcase that we have to choose two times the language... LOL [18:24] balloons:^^ [18:25] I've to open another bug report [18:25] two times the language? [18:25] yes, the firat at the start of the splash screen and the second at the language selection [18:26] firat/first [18:26] I'm wrong ? [18:27] ohh [18:27] I understnad, I thinki [18:27] hmm.. which iso did this appen on? [18:27] * balloons is still getting today's iso's [18:27] today server 8debian installer [18:28] today's build of server [18:28] but in general all debian installer [18:29] ahh [18:29] so the alternate images? [18:30] yes [18:30] debian too [18:30] ( not secure about debian) [18:35] balloons, seems to me that chrisccoulson is working on it, so I open a report. I've run that installer hundreds of times and nevwer noted this fact [18:35] njin, ok [18:35] that is quite odd [18:35] I ran into something with ubiquity yesterday that was also weird on language [18:36] so I thought maybe that was what you were talking about [20:06] balloons, http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/16266/testcases/1311/results the first (default instalation) is done and verified step by step [20:08] njin, ok one sec [20:09] njin, ahh, so your starting to convert the server testcases :-) [20:09] cool [20:09] tomorrow I will do a real hardware installation to see the difference with the wireless [20:09] yes [20:09] You can remove the case id at the top [20:10] let me look at the behind the scenes and check the formatting :-) [20:10] ok, tomorrow I will write the walkthrought [20:11] now i've to go, see you soon [20:11] njin, [20:11] njin, k.. let's talk tomorrow when your around [20:11] ok [21:01] phillw, ping [21:05] balloons: pong [21:06] phillw, check out my response to Lance and the wiki page [21:07] I hope it helps a little.. I realize the idea is still a bit confusing and off [21:07] if there's anything else I can do to help clarify or make it easier let me know [21:08] thanks for the reply. [21:08] also, while I have you. I need to schedule that meeting [21:09] frustrated testers are not productive testers :) [21:09] heh.. it's a big agenda.. everything to do about iso testing.. the scheduling, how we're doing it, the communication, respins, the testcases we're running [21:09] all of it needs discussed [21:09] so, my question to you is what's the best format for the lubuntu guys? [21:09] irc, video hangout, combination? [21:10] and what's the best time in general to meet (in UTC)? [21:11] I'm pretty sure that for a one off, they'd be flexible. Best way would be to put the poll to allow people to state when they could attend a special meeting. for such a thing, I'm available at any time. [21:13] yes, I thought about polling [21:13] but honestly it's such a big discussion it's going to end up as several meetings.. perhaps not [21:13] perhaps a mailing list thread is best [21:14] i'm going to have a think on it [21:16] maybe start something along the lines of a whiteboard? [21:18] phillw, hmm.. ok, elaborate if you would [21:20] balloons: along the lines of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items ? I'm trying to find the live whiteboard! [21:25] phillw, :-) [21:29] we have found it invaluable. We can bring up topics, the devs can tell us where things are upto etc. [21:32] phillw, send me a link whenever you find it again.. no rush [21:44] balloons: (22:40:07) phillw: hi Boss, do you have the link to the quantal whiteboard to hand? (The one that we can actually edit, not the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items one). [21:44] (22:40:46) Julien: it's the one on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items [21:44] (22:41:01) phillw: hmm, how do you edit it? [21:44] (22:41:04) Julien: there is a section "Whiteboard" which you can edit [21:44] (22:41:22) Julien: you are login in launchpad ? [21:44] (22:41:30) phillw: got it! [21:45] i've changed the irc nick as he does not get pinged. [21:45] *so as he does not get pinged* [21:53] it looks like kate set them up, I'm sure she can provide further information as to how they function. Another option is the etherpad as used by the release team?