| Azelphur | hmm, cpufreq is being a bit dumb on my machine | 01:39 |
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| Azelphur | I've overclocked to 4.2ghz, but it only sees 2.8ghz and below as valid frequency options | 01:39 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| christel | good morning | 06:33 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:13 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 07:27 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:32 |
| brobostigon | morning AlanBell | 07:33 |
| christel | lo diplo, brobostigon, AlanBell <3 | 07:35 |
| brobostigon | morning christel :) | 07:35 |
| === KillerJim|Away is now known as KillerJim | ||
| mungojerry | MartijnVdS, i thoroughly enjoyed that programme yesterday, thanks for the rec | 08:13 |
| MartijnVdS | mungojerry: which one was that again? :) | 08:14 |
| mungojerry | the kyocera | 08:15 |
| mungojerry | or whatever :D | 08:15 |
| mungojerry | antikythera | 08:18 |
| brobostigon | the greek computer? | 08:20 |
| mungojerry | yeah, i loved it | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:21 |
| brobostigon | it was interesting. | 08:21 |
| mungojerry | i found it sad that they seemed to ignore the guy who built the working model | 08:21 |
| mungojerry | all the other university bods patting each other on the back, and the other guy achieved as much as them. i wonder what else there is to that story | 08:22 |
| bigcalm | Ahoy | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | hoy | 08:49 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | elo sailor ;-) | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | Oh my | 08:51 |
| MartijnVdS | mungojerry: he looked a bit eccentric | 08:52 |
| MartijnVdS | mungojerry: (the guy who made a copy) | 08:52 |
| mungojerry | yes, certainly autistic spectrum, from first impressions. maybe he collaborate very well | 08:53 |
| mungojerry | his work was excellent and would have been useful | 08:54 |
| mungojerry | ^would not collaborate | 08:55 |
| christel | heya bigcalm :) | 09:02 |
| bigcalm | Ewwo christel :) | 09:03 |
| christel | how are yoou | 09:03 |
| bigcalm | Tired! nothing new ;) | 09:03 |
| bigcalm | How are you sweetie? | 09:03 |
| christel | i am orkay! waiting for The Passport, cleaning the house, pondering packing! | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | Pondering packing? Aren't you going at early o'clock tomorrow? | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | Soo tired | 09:07 |
| bigcalm | I think that 'soo' should be a word like 'too' | 09:08 |
| bigcalm | Similar to 'to', but more so ;) | 09:08 |
| bigcalm | Howdy popey | 09:13 |
| popey | pip pip | 09:14 |
| bigcalm | Holiday boring you onto IRC? :P | 09:14 |
| popey | hah | 09:14 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer is off to the Olympic Park again today. Handball Qtr Final then think we'll drag the kids to Hyde Park later on. | 09:22 | |
| christel | bigcalm: yus! :P | 09:24 |
| christel | i am just Very Disorganised | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: have fun | 09:28 |
| popey | AlanBell, have you been doing your duties as the grumpy games maker? | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | popey: not yet, I am doing paralympics | 09:29 |
| popey | ah | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | got my uniform yesterday | 09:30 |
| popey | is it sexeh? | 09:30 |
| AlanBell | christel says it is a bit camp | 09:30 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 09:32 |
| christel | ahaha | 09:32 |
| christel | it is | 09:32 |
| christel | also when he wears the cap he looks like a camp mcdonalds employee | 09:32 |
| christel | :o | 09:32 |
| christel | i liked the shoes and the trousers mind | 09:33 |
| AlanBell | would you like fries with that? | 09:33 |
| christel | AND THE CAMP WATCH | 09:33 |
| * bigcalm smirks | 09:34 | |
| mungojerry | new favourite game on android: x-construction | 09:35 |
| christel | bigcalm: they take uniform very seriously it appears! he modelled everything from socks to manbags and watches and umbrellas.. i can only assume they also kitted him out with special Olympics underpants! | 09:35 |
| bigcalm | Oh deary me | 09:36 |
| AlanBell | no, gamesmakers are not allowed to wear underpants | 09:36 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 09:36 |
| christel | :P | 09:36 |
| * christel tickles AlanBell | 09:36 | |
| christel | that makes sense, we did notice a certain lack of undergarments in your laundry too actually | 09:37 |
| christel | i am being subjected to mickey mouse in portuguese | 09:39 |
| christel | it makes no sense :( | 09:39 |
| bigcalm | You have some odd tv channels | 09:43 |
| christel | haha | 09:48 |
| christel | or a strange child! | 09:50 |
| christel | i had to go outside to Jump In Puddles earlier.. that was a wet start to my day | 09:50 |
| mungojerry | i don't think my child will know who mickey mouse is until he's a teenager | 10:02 |
| christel | it all started when czajkowski brought him a mickey mouse t-shirt back from disneyland.. ;) | 10:02 |
| bigcalm | christel: a poor quality t-shirt? | 10:04 |
| christel | haha nah it was alright (but then he is young enough to grow out of stuff before you have a chance to gauge the quality!) | 10:05 |
| popey | mine know some of the disney characters but aren't obsessed by them as much as they are by other non-disney ones | 10:06 |
| popey | sam is a massive octonauts fan | 10:06 |
| diplo | My kids love octonauts | 10:07 |
| popey | Octonauts! To the launch bay! | 10:07 |
| christel | \o/ | 10:08 |
| * bigcalm feels out of touch | 10:09 | |
| n1md4 | It's all about Waybuloo! | 10:09 |
| diplo | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 10:09 |
| n1md4 | Tell that to an 11 month old :P | 10:09 |
| diplo | One of the ones i couldn't stand tbh | 10:10 |
| christel | waybuloo must be written by someone on acid | 10:10 |
| christel | it is seriously weird | 10:10 |
| popey | they say that about all kids telly really | 10:12 |
| christel | i dunno, i like postman pat! :D | 10:13 |
| mungojerry | we watch wallace and gromit once per day in my house | 10:13 |
| n1md4 | I'm not keen on the Postman, was okay back in the day ... but now :\ | 10:14 |
| diplo | There is some stuff i don't want them watching | 10:14 |
| diplo | I find it violent... | 10:14 |
| christel | n1md4: it has been rather a few years, i might have romanticised ideas of it being wonderful :P | 10:14 |
| bigcalm | christel: modern Postman Pat or the shows from when we were children? | 10:14 |
| christel | bigcalm: 80s pat! | 10:14 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | Is it a cartoon these days? | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | Or cgi or something? | 10:15 |
| christel | david likes the gruffalo (a bit too much) and dr who.. bar that he is mainly disinterested in tv but ill watch like 2 minutes of whatever before diving off the back of the sofa or similar | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:16 |
| popey | my kids aren't really into dr who | 10:16 |
| * christel gasps | 10:17 | |
| popey | i am considering disowning them | 10:17 |
| bigcalm | I would | 10:17 |
| christel | i think he only likes it because he was forced to watch it when he was a newborn (it is probably mainly habit) | 10:17 |
| popey | will try again this season | 10:17 |
| popey | sam gets too scared | 10:17 |
| jussi | popey: let the brainwashing begin? | 10:17 |
| jussi | :P | 10:17 |
| christel | though he runs around excitedly whenever he sees david tennant in anything else shouting DOCTOR DOCTOR | 10:17 |
| christel | (and he is terrified of my remote control dalek...) | 10:17 |
| mungojerry | postman pat is still OK in my book | 10:17 |
| christel | (and of slugs i have discovered.. ) | 10:18 |
| christel | popey: your kids are super adorable -- they told me all about the Kitten | 10:19 |
| christel | and we had a long discussion about how AlanBell didn't have a lot of spices.. which they figured meant that he was not as good at cooking as you are!! | 10:20 |
| christel | :D | 10:20 |
| davmor2 | popey: I don't like the new one he just isn't dynamic enough, oh and the script writer for the Tennant Eccleston era left | 10:20 |
| christel | (which i thought was dreadfully cute) | 10:20 |
| AlanBell | and accurate | 10:20 |
| AlanBell | but really, they were critical of the size of my spice rack? | 10:21 |
| christel | they were! :P | 10:21 |
| christel | i bet you're going to go buy ALL the spices now.. aren't you? | 10:22 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: is it you who has the S3 or TheOpenSourcerer ? | 10:24 |
| AlanBell | davmor2: TheOpenSourcerer | 10:24 |
| AlanBell | christel: well I can't have popey having a bigger rack than me | 10:24 |
| popey | wakka wakka wakka | 10:24 |
| popey | did they? | 10:24 |
| popey | haha, just asked them | 10:26 |
| popey | they confirmed this | 10:26 |
| AlanBell | apart from nutmeg I have no clue what else is on the spice rack (or what could possibly be missing from it) | 10:27 |
| AlanBell | nutmeg is for rice pudding | 10:27 |
| Laney | FIVE SPICEEEEEEEEEEEE | 10:28 |
| * AlanBell feels a domain purchase coming on | 10:29 | |
| directhex | cumin | 10:31 |
| directhex | some people say variety is the spice of life. they're wrong. it's definitely cumin. | 10:31 |
| popey | +1 | 10:32 |
| directhex | all the variety one needs is "a little cumin? or a lot of cumin?" | 10:32 |
| directhex | (the answer is a lot, btw) | 10:32 |
| popey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asafoetida | 10:32 |
| popey | required for that awful stink you need in your rack | 10:32 |
| popey | also, for having something with "foetid" in the name | 10:33 |
| christel | popey: :D | 10:34 |
| * AlanBell now owns ratemyspicerack.com | 10:34 | |
| popey | lol | 10:34 |
| bigcalm | Hahaha | 10:34 |
| christel | lol | 10:34 |
| diplo | lol AlanBell | 10:35 |
| diplo | my spicerack is my wall cupboards bottom shelf | 10:35 |
| diplo | I have a whole shelf of spices | 10:35 |
| popey | right, off to go on a choo choo train | 10:36 |
| popey | ttfn | 10:36 |
| diplo | bb | 10:36 |
| christel | choo choo \o/ | 10:36 |
| AlanBell | anyone know a good wordpress ratings plugin or something? | 10:36 |
| christel | haha | 10:39 |
| bigcalm | Gah, just wet myself | 10:42 |
| bigcalm | Maybe I should invest in a sippy-cup | 10:43 |
| AlanBell | TMI | 10:43 |
| diplo | AlanBell: you know you have personal info showing on that domain ? | 10:43 |
| bigcalm | Poured my water mug over myself, managed to miss the keyboard thankfully | 10:43 |
| directhex | i have 2 spice racks. | 10:44 |
| directhex | 3 if you count the jars in the shelf above the cooker hood | 10:44 |
| AlanBell | diplo: yeah, just changing it to the office address | 10:45 |
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| === It is now known as Guest94515 | ||
| davmor2 | bigcalm: why do you think sippy cup will stop you wetting yourself | 11:20 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: smaller opening | 11:21 |
| bigcalm | It'll stop me from wetting myself so much :P | 11:21 |
| christel | :o | 11:23 |
| christel | m | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | If I'm going to act like a baby, I should treat myself like one | 11:24 |
| christel | er | 11:24 |
| christel | yes no | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | Well I'm confused!] | 11:24 |
| christel | my current mental imagery involves you in adult nappies | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | Nooo | 11:24 |
| christel | and it is most disturbing | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | Yes, please stop that :P | 11:24 |
| christel | i didnt MEAN to.. it just happens :( | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | christel: WHY? /me gets the mind bleach | 11:26 |
| bigcalm | Just realised that it's Wednesday. Why is the week going so quickly? | 11:38 |
| bigcalm | Lunch time I think | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: cause you are working so slowly :D | 11:39 |
| bigcalm | ¬.¬ | 11:40 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: on a plus side steak tonight | 11:40 |
| bigcalm | Surf & Turf! | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | gord: so are you coming on Thursday? | 11:41 |
| christel | STEAK \o/ | 11:52 |
| * christel makes plans to go to davmor2s for dinner tonight | 11:55 | |
| Dave2 | what's side steak? | 12:00 |
| davmor2 | christel: it's the lug meeting so it's at the Moon Under Water but you're more than welcome :D | 12:01 |
| mungojerry | has anyone experienced an issue where you can't reply to certain people's text messages? | 12:11 |
| mungojerry | e.g. my wife cannot respond to a text from my mum, but i can on my phone | 12:11 |
| Laney | the mother in law filter | 12:15 |
| Laney | a premium feature | 12:16 |
| Flashtek | lol | 12:16 |
| Flashtek | if i get a sms from my mother in law i would be quite surprised... | 12:16 |
| Flashtek | she died in Jan | 12:17 |
| mungojerry | anyone done the basketball google game today? | 12:17 |
| Flashtek | mungojerry: 14 | 12:18 |
| mungojerry | 27 so far.. | 12:19 |
| Flashtek | 21 2nd play | 12:19 |
| christel | davmor2: ooh lug steak ;) | 12:25 |
| * bigcalm returns to dream about tonight's steak | 12:38 | |
| christel | how do you like it? | 12:40 |
| bigcalm | Medium rare | 12:41 |
| christel | nod | 12:41 |
| bigcalm | How do you like it? | 12:41 |
| davmor2 | cremated to hell and back | 12:41 |
| christel | davmor2: noooo :( | 12:42 |
| christel | meat should never be overcooker :( | 12:42 |
| christel | overcooked* | 12:42 |
| christel | bigcalm: depends on my mood, rare or medium rare | 12:42 |
| christel | generally i find i season just before putting it on a properly hot pan and then just allow the sides to brown and then i put them in the oven for a couple of minutes until the meat swells | 12:43 |
| christel | and then it is lovely and lush (particularly with a big dollop of homemade barnaise sauce) | 12:44 |
| * christel nods | 12:44 | |
| davmor2 | christel: this is why I like chicken and turkey over meat, I can't eat fat so I have to cut every piece off, if it's pink or bloody I can't eat it, and yet when Mrs M does it it's lovely but is well done :) | 12:45 |
| christel | aww | 12:45 |
| christel | next week i intend to nom yummy birds | 12:48 |
| Dave2 | :o | 12:48 |
| christel | i intend to hunt them and stalk them and shoot them and eat them :D | 12:48 |
| christel | (lagopus and capercailie at that) | 12:48 |
| christel | i er, that killed the conversation (and you're now all terrified of me because i run around with shotguns?) :x | 12:50 |
| bigcalm | christel: you can run with it as long as it's not loaded :P | 12:51 |
| christel | haha | 12:51 |
| christel | it is going to be very tasty :D | 12:51 |
| christel | IF this passport arrives in the next 3 hours as promised... | 12:52 |
| davmor2 | christel: Muhahahahahahahaha you live down south right, you watch the olympics get the blame for it being late :D | 12:53 |
| christel | grmbl :P | 12:53 |
| christel | i have decided they're just all racist against norwegians :( | 12:54 |
| bigcalm | :( | 12:54 |
| christel | yes :( | 12:55 |
| christel | airport employees are you know | 12:55 |
| christel | i always get singled out for Additional Security when i fly to the states | 12:55 |
| bigcalm | christel: maybe they want to get to know you better ;) | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | christel: change your surname to bloggs and you'll have no issues what so ever honest gov'nor | 12:56 |
| christel | HALLELUJA | 12:58 |
| christel | THE PASSPORT HAS ARRIVE | 12:58 |
| christel | D | 12:58 |
| bigcalm | Wooooooooo! | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | christel: Woohoo you can go on holiday | 13:00 |
| christel | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 13:00 |
| * bigcalm dances with christel | 13:00 | |
| Pendulum | christel: YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 13:00 |
| * christel does a dance :D | 13:01 | |
| christel | i guess i better had pack then.. :P | 13:01 |
| bigcalm | Good luck ;) | 13:01 |
| christel | haha | 13:06 |
| christel | (what do i need to bring? :D) | 13:06 |
| bigcalm | Clothes? | 13:06 |
| Pendulum | christel: David | 13:06 |
| bigcalm | Hah | 13:06 |
| christel | Pendulum: Good Plan! | 13:06 |
| Pendulum | it would be a shame if he got left behind after all the passport fuss | 13:07 |
| christel | i will need to bring him so that he can Carry All The Things | 13:07 |
| christel | :D | 13:07 |
| bigcalm | christel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGL23HiyJc | 13:07 |
| * bigcalm distracts christel with dubstep | 13:07 | |
| christel | woop | 13:07 |
| christel | i shall send ubuntu-uk a postcard | 13:08 |
| * christel nods | 13:08 | |
| Pendulum | christel: I think you should make a video all about Norway for us :P | 13:08 |
| christel | we have trolls :D | 13:08 |
| christel | (in norway) | 13:08 |
| Pendulum | :D | 13:09 |
| MartijnVdS | under bridges? | 13:13 |
| davmor2 | christel: don't think that you can get away with just claiming that norway has them when it is quite obvious that the interweb is full o them | 13:13 |
| Pendulum | davmor2: I'd let christel claim anything she wants. Otherwise she might give you the mad face and that's scary. | 13:14 |
| * bigcalm nods | 13:15 | |
| davmor2 | Pendulum: Nah she's too excited about holiday and passports to care right now afterwards I'd agree :) | 13:15 |
| Pendulum | davmor2: don't underestimate her. She'll get her revenge eventually ;) | 13:16 |
| davmor2 | Pendulum: Yeah but I have flame proof clothing from picking on czajkowski so I'm really not scared at all | 13:17 |
| Pendulum | haha | 13:17 |
| AlanBell | http://ratemyspicerack.com is kind of up and running | 13:17 |
| AlanBell | please send me pictures of your spiceracks :) | 13:18 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: you are wrong, cinnamon sugar on Doughnuts | 13:18 |
| AlanBell | well that goes on *your* post! | 13:19 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: broken image on 1st load of that site :) | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: on the thumbnail of the rack? | 13:19 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: yes | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | that is twitpic's fault | 13:19 |
| bigcalm | No, I'd say it is the fault of the plugin for not linking to the correct location :( | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | what plugin? | 13:20 |
| AlanBell | oh hang on, that isn't right | 13:21 |
| bigcalm | Oh, you asked for a plugin before, was assuming that that's what was at fault :) | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | the plugin was for rating things, not for the twitpic thing | 13:21 |
| bigcalm | I see | 13:21 |
| christel | davmor2: haha | 13:24 |
| jacobw2 | how do you exec as a user without a shell? | 13:27 |
| davmor2 | jacobw2: Alt+F2 type in the command | 13:29 |
| jacobw2 | davmor2: server | 13:33 |
| jacobw2 | davmor2: i.e. i want to run mysql as the mysql system user | 13:34 |
| davmor2 | ah one for the popeys of the world I'm afraid | 13:35 |
| bigcalm | But he's on a train | 13:35 |
| jacobw2 | i can't work out how upstart determines the mysql user | 13:36 |
| jacobw2 | or any user it runs daemons as for that matter | 13:36 |
| bigcalm | jacobw2: usually that's controlled within the server's config - I know Apache does it this way | 13:37 |
| bigcalm | jacobw2: see if you can find a user/group option within my.cnf | 13:37 |
| jacobw2 | bigcalm: mysqld refuses to run as root | 13:40 |
| bigcalm | jacobw2: I'm assuming that this isn't a vanilla Ubuntu server | 13:40 |
| jacobw2 | bigcalm: it is, however, mysql-cluster isn't packaged in precise | 13:41 |
| bigcalm | Ah, I see | 13:41 |
| * jacobw2 has found a user=mysql line in a reference my.cnf | 13:41 | |
| bigcalm | Does that user exist? | 13:42 |
| jacobw2 | i think it's created by the mysql-server package | 13:43 |
| jacobw2 | bigcalm: you're correct, daemons handle their own forking etc :) | 13:46 |
| bigcalm | Line 21 of /etc/init/mysql.conf has this in it: -o mysql -g root | 13:46 |
| bigcalm | I think that -o is the user to run the service as | 13:47 |
| bigcalm | I could be completely wrong. This is just me prodding things :) | 13:47 |
| AlanBell | jacobw2: you can do sudo su -s /bin/bash mysql | 13:48 |
| AlanBell | to get a shell as that user | 13:48 |
| jacobw2 | AlanBell: yeah | 13:48 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 13:59 |
| christel | Pendulum: VOTE ON MY SPICERACK | 14:04 |
| christel | so that ic an beat AlanBell | 14:04 |
| christel | hi sebsebseb :) | 14:04 |
| Pendulum | christel: starting a campaign? | 14:08 |
| christel | yes! | 14:08 |
| christel | it is the "Christel has a better rack than AlanBell" campaign! | 14:08 |
| AlanBell | more spiceracks needed | 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | hi christel :) | 14:09 |
| Pendulum | I would take a photo of ours, but it's rather extensive and I don't know everything that's in it (and can't reach most of the things to check) | 14:09 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: please do! | 14:10 |
| Pendulum | it might take more than one photo | 14:10 |
| AlanBell | thats fine | 14:10 |
| directhex | can we post videos if we have complex spice arrangements? | 14:10 |
| christel | hahaha | 14:10 |
| christel | yes! infact lets do a cooking webcast | 14:11 |
| christel | tonight can be cooking with directhex | 14:11 |
| directhex | i am a member of a tech forum, which a cooking subforum. because we were at a mod meetup once, and after a few beers, it seemed like a brilliant idea | 14:11 |
| AlanBell | directhex: sure, videos would be fine too (on some kind of embeddable thing) | 14:12 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex, christel: http://www.cookingforgeeks.com/ ? | 14:12 |
| dogmatic69 | "cooking with dogmatic69" ~= calling the nearest takeaway place :D | 14:12 |
| christel | MartijnVdS: oooh | 14:12 |
| christel | cooking is always a brilliant idea :D | 14:13 |
| directhex | http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hotpot-cookery-discussion/ | 14:14 |
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| sebsebseb | christel: Are you going to OGGCamp? | 14:23 |
| christel | unfortunately not, i will be visiting family in norway doing .. norwegian things (like eating too much nice food and enjoying the midnight sun!) | 14:23 |
| === Guest33649 is now known as saxmad | ||
| sebsebseb | oh you got relations in Norway | 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | I got them in Sweden | 14:24 |
| === saxmad is now known as GaryMason | ||
| sebsebseb | would have been there right now in fact, but didn't happen this year, because something | 14:24 |
| christel | ooh :D | 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | relatives I meant above | 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | christel: well half Swedish, so yeah | 14:24 |
| christel | oh nice | 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | speak nearly as good as English as well :), wirth reading being ok, writing/typing not that good | 14:25 |
| directhex | christel, you missed "and eating lutefisk" as a norwegian passtime | 14:26 |
| christel | we only do that once a year! :P | 14:27 |
| christel | (and then only the tiniest amount of lutefisk covered in bacon covered in brown goats cheese drizzled with golden syrup!) | 14:27 |
| christel | (yes.. it is rather odd as far as meals go) | 14:27 |
| directhex | scandinavia is a bit weird foodwise | 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | directhex: it's nice food wise :) | 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | for yougurt very much so :) | 14:28 |
| directhex | i suspect y'all ferment fish as a workaround to the high price of fermented grain! | 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | altough I supopuse most of Europe is like that really, except for the UK | 14:28 |
| christel | hahaha | 14:28 |
| directhex | or grapes | 14:28 |
| directhex | or potatoes | 14:28 |
| directhex | or, well, things that are not fish, and are usually drunk | 14:28 |
| christel | oooh i see a gap in the market | 14:29 |
| * sebsebseb will donate to the PDPC today probably | 14:29 | |
| christel | we need to find a fish that can live in alcohol | 14:29 |
| christel | and then we can sell lutefisk vodka with live fishies in | 14:29 |
| christel | or something | 14:29 |
| christel | it'd be like awesomer than tequila with dead stuff | 14:29 |
| christel | tiny ones ideally | 14:32 |
| * christel goes investigate kitchen for yummy things | 15:07 | |
| zleap | ok | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | christel: Try Food I find it in the kitchen normally and it is yummy :D Especially the food in hobnob packets | 15:16 |
| christel | :D | 15:17 |
| Pendulum | christel: I suggest ice cream or chocolate | 15:25 |
| mrnicelupe | Blimey, the user list has hardly changed since I was last here | 15:28 |
| * bigcalm returns with a pot noodle | 15:29 | |
| Pendulum | mrnicelupe: when were you last here? | 15:30 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: which one? | 15:30 |
| mrnicelupe | Pendulum: About 2 years ago! | 15:31 |
| Pendulum | yeah, not so much change in that amount of time. try coming back in 5 more years and then maybe it'll have changed | 15:32 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: mine ;D | 15:33 |
| mrnicelupe | Indeed. | 15:33 |
| mrnicelupe | Uhoh, I partly came i | 15:33 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: copper, tin or coal? :P | 15:33 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: beef & tomato with added soysauce and tobasco | 15:33 |
| AlanBell | http://ratemyspicerack.com now has a submission process, someone want to test it? | 15:34 |
| mrnicelupe | Here to ask advice, but the laptop I'm working on just popped* | 15:34 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: tooks your time to add me on g+ :P | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I know I thought I added you ages ago but obviously not | 15:38 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: sorry about that :) | 15:38 |
| * bigcalm tuts ;) | 15:38 | |
| mrnicelupe | Well, I might as well ask anyway, on the off-chance I get it to turn on again: what's the easiest way to edit a Windows registry from Ubuntu? | 15:42 |
| christel | Pendulum: ice cream :D | 15:43 |
| Pendulum | christel: I knew I had useful suggestions ;) | 15:43 |
| christel | i like ice cream : | 15:44 |
| christel | P | 15:44 |
| Pendulum | christel: I know | 15:45 |
| christel | :D | 15:45 |
| christel | is my pleasure at ice creaming that obvious? :o | 15:45 |
| Dave2 | @ | 15:46 |
| Dave2 | :o | 15:46 |
| Pendulum | christel: it was last night ;) | 15:46 |
| * bigcalm fragile brain melts | 15:47 | |
| === KillerJim_ is now known as KillerJim | ||
| christel | ! | 15:54 |
| davmor2 | christel: why the ! ? | 15:56 |
| christel | i er, uhm.. :P | 16:04 |
| mrnicelupe | Anybody have experience with an HP G60? | 16:08 |
| davmor2 | mrevell: you gonna make an appearance on Thursday? | 16:10 |
| mrevell | davmor2, Sprinting, I'm afraid | 16:11 |
| davmor2 | mrnicelupe: I have a g62 I don't know how far apart they are | 16:11 |
| mrnicelupe | davmor2: ever have problems with display flickering in 12.04? | 16:11 |
| bigcalm | Just over 2 hours to steak! | 16:12 |
| christel | STEAK | 16:13 |
| christel | ooh you should do a hangout from the lugsteak meeting! | 16:14 |
| Pendulum | christel: that is an excellent idea | 16:15 |
| davmor2 | christel: it's whether the wifi would take it :D | 16:15 |
| christel | hehe | 16:16 |
| christel | Pendulum: YES! we could remotely steaklug! | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: http://www.youtube.com/user/thedailyguru | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: I think you'll like that channel :) | 16:16 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i htink i know it, let me look. :) | 16:17 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: no, i dont have already, thank you. :) | 16:18 |
| davmor2 | christel: it is a whetherspoons after all | 16:21 |
| christel | aww | 16:23 |
| christel | czajkowski: if you decide to buy One of those dresses, go for the Very option! | 16:32 |
| popey | moo | 16:33 |
| mrnicelupe | Hey popey | 16:36 |
| * popey waves to zleap | 16:36 | |
| * zleap waves back | 16:38 | |
| zleap | what you think to paignton then | 16:38 |
| popey | very nice | 16:38 |
| zleap | :) | 16:38 |
| popey | went on the choo choo today | 16:38 |
| zleap | ah | 16:38 |
| zleap | you down here all week ? | 16:39 |
| popey | yeah | 16:39 |
| zleap | ah | 16:39 |
| zleap | sounds good | 16:39 |
| zleap | exeter lug meet is Friday | 16:40 |
| bigcalm | Heh, take the whole family ;) | 16:40 |
| christel | yay exeter \o/ | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | popey: was there beerage on the choochoo? | 16:41 |
| popey | no! | 16:41 |
| popey | and the carriages were similar | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | Well that sucks | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | :O | 16:41 |
| popey | although not as nice as the beer ones! | 16:41 |
| zleap | is this the steam train to kingswear for dartmouth or the one that goes the other way | 16:41 |
| christel | mmmbeer | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | I think it's time to organise next year's RAT :D | 16:42 |
| christel | lets do one next week | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 16:42 |
| christel | no wait i am abroad | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | christel: you silly billy :P | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | I'm having to cut my oggcamp visit short so that I can attend a 4 day course in London. So no extra beerage for me on the Sunday night :( | 16:43 |
| popey | :( | 16:44 |
| bigcalm | Yus | 16:44 |
| bigcalm | We will both be in Liverpool from Friday though. So 2 nights is better than nothing | 16:45 |
| zleap | ouch that looked bad | 16:45 |
| zleap | wb | 16:51 |
| christel | bigcalm: aw boo! what are you going to be Learning About | 16:55 |
| christel | (gosh it is 6 pm.. i really should consider packing soon) | 16:55 |
| zleap | ah service has resumed | 16:55 |
| zleap | :) | 16:55 |
| bigcalm | christel: boring coding stuff: http://trainings.sensiolabs.com/en/training/symfony2-php-web-development | 16:58 |
| christel | aww | 16:58 |
| Pendulum | christel: what time is your flight tomorrow? | 16:59 |
| christel | Pendulum: i have no idea! | 16:59 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: remember no red wine before class :D | 16:59 |
| * christel investigates | 16:59 | |
| bigcalm | I've been doing nothing but reading today. My brain hurty | 16:59 |
| christel | 12:20 from gatwick | 16:59 |
| christel | so i think i shall leave around 9ish | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: that's okay I'll pick on you at the lug tonight and you'll forget everything :D | 17:00 |
| christel | then i shall panic a lot when i lose david in the airport | 17:00 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: I've forgotten everything already | 17:00 |
| Pendulum | christel: so really means you have at least 3 more hours before you have to start packing :P | 17:00 |
| christel | haha | 17:00 |
| christel | <3 | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: see just the thought of it has you forgetting it all :D | 17:01 |
| === matt_ is now known as Guest34520 | ||
| bigcalm | Fesk! | 17:23 |
| bigcalm | Why do I always remember to set up my laptop for Thursday so late on Wednesday? | 17:23 |
| * bigcalm grumbles and hunts down the power lead | 17:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | is the Thursday setup so different from other days? | 17:23 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: twice a month is our Work Place Day | 17:24 |
| MartijnVdS | Work Place Day? | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | Which is tomorrow | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | It's where several people who work from home come together to spend the day working in the same room | 17:24 |
| MartijnVdS | Ah, you usually work from home then? | 17:25 |
| bigcalm | A way reducing the chances of cabin fever | 17:25 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: I have ever since moving here in '09 | 17:25 |
| * MartijnVdS did not know that :) | 17:25 | |
| bigcalm | Well now you do ;) | 17:25 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 17:25 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 17:25 |
| MartijnVdS | I've considered it.. but I'm afraid I'll become a hermit 8-) | 17:26 |
| MartijnVdS | *even more of a | 17:26 |
| bigcalm | My choice was to work from home or to work for a different compan | 17:29 |
| bigcalm | y | 17:29 |
| popey | \o/ wfh | 17:35 |
| popey | well, wfa | 17:35 |
| popey | i worked from a field the other day | 17:35 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: That would work for some things.. but not others | 17:37 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: I like it to be quiet when I code :) | 17:37 |
| popey | it was quite quiet | 17:38 |
| popey | except for the kids | 17:38 |
| popey | also, headphones :) | 17:38 |
| MartijnVdS | but do you code? | 17:39 |
| popey | sometimes :) | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | Does he blend? | 17:39 |
| popey | badly | 17:39 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: what DO you do then? ;) | 17:39 |
| popey | <- manager | 17:40 |
| popey | you know that unity thing we make | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. nothing? | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | :P | 17:40 |
| popey | :p | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: yeah, that's the multi-platform 3D game engine right? :P | 17:40 |
| popey | :) | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: (that makes googling for Unity bugs so annoying) | 17:41 |
| popey | nah | 17:41 |
| popey | add launchpad to the search criteria | 17:41 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: http://unity3d.com/company/news/ea-partnership.html | 17:42 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Unity Technologies Wins GigaOM’s Mobilize LaunchPad 2010 | 17:42 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 2010 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "login and logout sounds have static" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2010 | 17:42 |
| popey | haha | 17:42 |
| popey | doublefail | 17:42 |
| * MartijnVdS will be learning more python at work now though \o/ | 17:43 | |
| MartijnVdS | new project is Pythonic | 17:43 |
| * bigcalm slithers off to the LUG | 17:50 | |
| bigcalm | christel: have a great trip, hope it all goes smoothly :) | 17:50 |
| jacobw2 | o/ | 17:55 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 17:55 |
| jacobw2 | poor netsplitees | 17:56 |
| * jacobw2 hugs ubuntu | 17:57 | |
| jacobw2 | centos is just horrible | 17:57 |
| * MartijnVdS waits for his neighbors to come home | 17:57 | |
| MartijnVdS | Postman delivered my new wifi router there :| | 17:57 |
| jacobw2 | :( | 18:00 |
| === matt_ is now known as Guest2574 | ||
| siya | Hi | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | hi siya | 18:05 |
| siya | Recently upgraded to 12.04 and am now struggling with my file shares | 18:06 |
| siya | I have a share that I'm trying to access which has guest RO but I want to authenticate as a user so I can write to the share | 18:06 |
| siya | how the heck do I specify what userid nautilus should use? | 18:06 |
| siya | Ubuntu username and samba username don't match | 18:07 |
| siya | AlanBell, hi :) | 18:07 |
| siya | I think under 10.04 I may have manually set the shares up but 12.04 does a great job finding stuff on my network | 18:07 |
| jacobw2 | :) | 18:19 |
| Azelphur | Hmm, someone is using forged headers to send spam (drugs, etc), from @azelphur.com. I keep getting delivery status notifications, is there anything I should be doing? o.O | 18:22 |
| siya | Argh! | 18:30 |
| BigRedS | Azelphur: if you know it's not coming from your server there's not a huge amount you can do | 18:30 |
| Azelphur | I think it isn't, http://pastebin.com/uuj4rt0b | 18:30 |
| BigRedS | SPF records will/might help the recipients | 18:30 |
| siya | I try to manually log in with nautilus and it still doesn't allow me to write to the share | 18:30 |
| Azelphur | BigRedS: the headers mention DKIM and SPF, which worries me a little xD | 18:30 |
| BigRedS | Azelphur: yeah, that's SPF and DKIM for the google server which sent the notification | 18:31 |
| Azelphur | ah | 18:31 |
| BigRedS | The original headers don't | 18:31 |
| Azelphur | fair enough :) | 18:31 |
| BigRedS | In the two Authentication-Results headers in the original message you can see Google evaluating the SPF record | 18:33 |
| BigRedS | because there isn't one, it's a 'softfail' (i.e. the server sending the mail is neither permitted to send for that domain nor denied | 18:33 |
| BigRedS | ) | 18:33 |
| Azelphur | fun | 18:33 |
| BigRedS | if you're getting a load of notifications from google an SPF record will stop those, because Google will just drop the mail | 18:33 |
| BigRedS | but the headers don't imply it's your server doing the sending | 18:34 |
| Azelphur | righto :) | 18:36 |
| * siya gives up on Nautilus | 18:42 | |
| siya | Doh! Had to restart the cifs service on the server | 18:51 |
| * siya face palms | 18:51 | |
| BigRedS | haha | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | what's the easiest way to have a small vm on my desktop machine? | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | I want to have a small "server" install in a vm (think vps) | 19:10 |
| mgdm | I tend to use Virtualbox | 19:10 |
| mgdm | and occasionally vagrant to drive i | 19:10 |
| mgdm | t | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: I don't like vbox, because of its oracleyness.. and I don't need the gui bits | 19:11 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: also, I've seen coworkers fight it | 19:11 |
| MartijnVdS | it seems.. stubborn | 19:11 |
| mgdm | I've never had an issue with it myself, except a while back with some network thing | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | ubuntu-virt - Host and manage virtual machines | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | hmmmm | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | that installs kvm | 19:13 |
| BigRedS | I used to use KVM for hat | 19:13 |
| BigRedS | vbox is easier and more straightforward for what approximates to 100% of the time in all honesty | 19:13 |
| BigRedS | I mean, I'm sure it's hard to make it do what it's not designed for, or what Oracle didn't think you might do with it | 19:14 |
| BigRedS | but they definitely thought about running a server on your desktop for testing etc. | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | I thought it was more oriented towards GUIs | 19:16 |
| BigRedS | yeah, you get a gui | 19:17 |
| BigRedS | so I stick that on the bottom workspace and ssh into it | 19:17 |
| BigRedS | that's the annoying bit, having a useless window knocking around somewhere | 19:17 |
| mgdm | you can drive it without a gui (vagrant does so) | 19:19 |
| * MartijnVdS is using python-vm-builder now | 19:19 | |
| MartijnVdS | + libvirt | 19:19 |
| MartijnVdS | let's see how that goes | 19:20 |
| BigRedS | Anyone know of a mail client that'll simply ignore all mail older than a given date? | 20:15 |
| BigRedS | or all but the most recent X thousand mails or something? I keep having mail clients hanging, and I suspect it's because they insist upon indexing mail from 2002 | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | so put it in a folder | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | most new clients have a nice shiny 'ARchive' button for that :) | 20:17 |
| BigRedS | I don't have write access to these folders | 20:17 |
| MartijnVdS | TBird even puts it in a special per-year archive | 20:17 |
| MartijnVdS | have you tried mutt? | 20:17 |
| BigRedS | They're subscribed folders and they're as old as the company | 20:17 |
| BigRedS | No, I was hoping for something more gui - the large problem is with attachments. | 20:17 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: Poke the sysadmin to clean up ;) | 20:18 |
| BigRedS | That is a possibility | 20:18 |
| BigRedS | but I was sort-of hoping for a non-retarded mail client... | 20:18 |
| BigRedS | I suspect that them not having these problems might preclude it, too :( | 20:18 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd say gmail, but then you'd probably hunt me down and do horrible things with me | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | i was going to say gmail too | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | it's the only mail "client" that doesn't freeze for me, except for the one on symbian | 20:19 |
| BigRedS | haha | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | oh and the android app obviously | 20:19 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: maybe roundcube -- it does imap and only shows ~100 messages at a time | 20:19 |
| BigRedS | it's internal mail, and being a hosting company we're pretty insistent upon not outsourcing, er, hosting :) | 20:19 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: webmail though | 20:20 |
| BigRedS | ah yeah, hadn't thought about webmail | 20:20 |
| BigRedS | yeah, but it beats waiting several minutes to open a zip archive while evolution/tbird/claws/whatever goes dark and thinks | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | yes. | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | though if a webserver can do it, i don't see why desktop clients have such a problem | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | or does google have several powerful servers dedicated to each gmail user? | 20:21 |
| BigRedS | There's a lot of things wrong with almost every gui mail client | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | i guess not everyone is hitting gmail at the same time, so it's a possibility | 20:22 |
| MartijnVdS | like "trying to download and index ALL the mails" | 20:22 |
| MartijnVdS | client-side | 20:22 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 20:22 |
| BigRedS | "I know you said IMAP, but I'm going to pretend it's POP" | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | lol, yes | 20:22 |
| AlanBell | well you can't expect them to support newfangled protocols like IMAP straight away! | 20:23 |
| AlanBell | let it mature for a few years ;) | 20:23 |
| BigRedS | haha | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | hdparm --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | brilliant | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | more software needs switches like that | 20:24 |
| Azelphur | considering buying a GT 610 for desktop use, but I notice it benchmarks worse than even really old cards like my 8800GT...not sure if I should buy it | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | yeah but it probably doesn't need 8 fans | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | it needs 0 fans :D | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | well there you go then | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | if you want performance get a 8800 | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | but I'm really only interested in cheap, dual DVI so I can run my 2 2560x1440 monitors | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | 8800 is like twice the price xD | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | if you want your ears to still work in 10 years get the 610 | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: you've seen my PC right? You know it only puts off about 32dB? | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | (lots of fans running at low RPM > one big fan on the CPU going nuts) | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | so you know, like, watercooling? | 20:27 |
| Azelphur | yup | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | the idea is to carry the heat over greater distance to the much larger radiator right? | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | because having a heatsink that big would be really expensive | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | Yep :) | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | but if you had loads of money, wouldn't the giant heatsink still be better? | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | I suppose so, wouldn't look as cool though | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | what's not cool about a 100kg block of silver? | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | touche | 20:29 |
| ali1234 | i wonder just how much you'd need to get a totally silent, no moving parts, no liquids heatsink that can cool a modern PC going at max | 20:29 |
| ali1234 | the active pump in the water cooler probably does make it better than solid metal actually | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: if your interested, I can turn my CPU fans off for a bit | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | and tell you temps | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | I think it'd be fine, in all honesty | 20:30 |
| BigRedS | yeah, and water's better than air per volume/surface area | 20:30 |
| BigRedS | and the chip is only so big, so you want something good | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | BigRedS: yes but watercooling still goes to a radiator cooled by air | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | leaving the pump on obviously | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | but all the fans on the rad off | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | that's not really got anything to do with it | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | o.O | 20:31 |
| BigRedS | yes, but from a 2"x2" chip, which is what you're trying to extract the heat from. It's that interface that you need to make efficient | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | yeah which is why the pump is better | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | it has nothing to do with air | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: but it's the answer to your question, if my setup can do it, then my setup is obviously what you need for running a totally silent system | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | and everything to do with conductivity | 20:32 |
| Azelphur | oh, unless you don't want a pump either and just want totally passive cooling | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | it's not totally silent unless you turn off the pump as well | 20:32 |
| Azelphur | ah | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | no fans, no pumps, nothing | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | just a solid block of metal | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | of unlimited size | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | any shape you want | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | i guess that means heat pipes are allowed | 20:33 |
| Azelphur | I imagine it'd be possible if you have a decent sized heatsink and perhaps underclock a bit | 20:33 |
| Azelphur | googling for passive i7 seems to turn up results of people doing it | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | yeah but i want to know if it scales | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | or if you reach a point where you can't cool any more by adding more mass | 20:34 |
| Azelphur | I think at some point you'd run into the problem of heating up the air inside of the case too much, with no way of removing it | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | what if there was no air? | 20:34 |
| Azelphur | then a heatsink would be entirely pointless and you'd overheat real fast | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | the case is the heatsink | 20:34 |
| Azelphur | because science | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | alternatively - what if there was no case, and the heatsink was the size of a car? | 20:35 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: haha, then in theory you could go nuts :) | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | but made from solid metal | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | i don't think it would actually work | 20:35 |
| * Azelphur shrugs | 20:35 | |
| ali1234 | i think the part of the heatsink near the chip would get really hot before it could transmit away the heat | 20:35 |
| Azelphur | my friend wants to build a TEC with a thermostat so you don't need to insulate, that would be the best cooling ever | 20:36 |
| ali1234 | i didn't understand any of that | 20:37 |
| Azelphur | a TEC/Peltier cooler can turn water into ice in about 30 seconds, it's a real hardcore cooling solution | 20:37 |
| Azelphur | but with stuff like that if your cooler is below ambient you get condensation and things die | 20:37 |
| Azelphur | but if you have a thermostat, then you can keep it above ambient, and succeed \o/ | 20:37 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIMYlslqPnM is a TEC | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | how do those work anyway? | 20:39 |
| Azelphur | no idea how they actually work beyond "One side gets hot the other side gets cold" | 20:39 |
| === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins | ||
| ali1234 | hmm... it's like convection... but with electrons? | 20:43 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: *shrug* | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | that can't be right | 20:46 |
| Azelphur | aha, think I've found the graphics card for me http://www.ebuyer.com/387007-zotac-zt-60404-10l-gt630-1gb-zt-60404-10l?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | that would not allow it to get colder than ambient | 20:46 |
| Azelphur | should drive 2 x 2560x1440 quite nicely for desktop use :) | 20:46 |
| Azelphur | and it's a nice cheap card | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | x30/x40 are midrange | 20:47 |
| Azelphur | yea | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | i have a GT 240 | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | it's ok | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | doesn't work with nouveau though | 20:47 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I have my GTX 570 for gaming, the only stuff I do on these monitors is run pidgin (admittedly with like 100 windows open), thunderbird and keepass, and a web browser | 20:47 |
| === matt_ is now known as Guest75800 | ||
| ali1234 | Azelphur: can you benchmark my game? | 20:49 |
| Azelphur | on my GTX 570? | 20:50 |
| Azelphur | sure | 20:50 |
| Azelphur | http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/4482079 is my hardware | 20:51 |
| ali1234 | can you maximize over 2x2 monitors still? | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | no, I never could | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | that requires someone with an AMD eyefinity setup | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | i'm sure i've seen a screenshot of you running TF2 over multiple monitors | 20:52 |
| Azelphur | yea, that was REALLY slow, and it's not supported any more | 20:52 |
| Azelphur | had to use xinerama to tie multiple X sessions together | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | ah. do you have joypad? | 20:52 |
| Azelphur | yes | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | does it have 6 axis? | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | if it doesn't, it will probably crash | 20:53 |
| Azelphur | it's a playstation 2 controller via USB | 20:53 |
| Azelphur | can always unplug it :) | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | might act a bit odd anyway | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | depending on how the axis are mapped | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | other thing is that I only have the one GTX 570, my secondary card is a 9500GT, so that'd nuke performance big time for your game | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | a passively cooled budget card tends not to do so well gaming ;) | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | i doubt it | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | o.O | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | but yea, I can test it on one or two monitors | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | it runs 50fps in my 240 | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | or when my new monitors come I can test it at 2560x1440 which is pretty high resolution | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | 9500 should be better than that | 20:55 |
| Azelphur | fair enough :D | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | res doesn't seem to make much difference | 20:55 |
| dogmatic69 | o/ | 20:55 |
| Azelphur | ah | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | i want to know if it can go up to silly framerates like 100fps | 20:55 |
| Azelphur | well as I say I can test it on my GTX 570 | 20:55 |
| Azelphur | on my main card it should go damned fast | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | it's still uploading... | 20:56 |
| Azelphur | GTX 570 with 4.2ghz overclocked i7 | 20:56 |
| Azelphur | :D | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | the whole game is 10mb | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | 9.6mb of that is textures | 20:56 |
| Azelphur | fun | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | you need to install ogre and ois | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | http://ubuntuone.com/5uweM7aLkMLiKSSvMnP4nH | 20:57 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: know the package names so I don't have to search em out? | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | controls are axis 0 steering, axis 2 left slide, axis 5 right slide, button 1 accelerate, button 4 boost, button 5 stop | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | packages are libogre-1.7.4 and libois-1.3.0 | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | for some reason they have version numbers in the name | 21:01 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: how do I check FPS? | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | it's wrtten to console output every 5 seconds or so | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | at | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | ah* | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | well actually it's every 0x3f frames | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | I'm getting like 75 but I'm running compiz, and it's doing split screen | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: it seems to go faster when I fly, gone up to 90, peaked at 116 | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | odd | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | the numbers are last average best worst | 21:05 |
| Azelphur | yea my average is like 75 | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | i think when the AI gets stuck in the tunnel it goes faster | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | cos you can't see the rest of the track then | 21:08 |
| Azelphur | ah | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | so is the framerate fairly smooth? | 21:13 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: sure, it's fine | 21:14 |
| Azelphur | lovely and smooth :D | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | brb | 21:17 |
| AlanBell | anyone else want to take a picture of their spice rack? | 21:25 |
| AlanBell | http://ratemyspicerack.com | 21:26 |
| ali1234 | ok so i have a ntfs filesystem mage taken from a hard drive with exactly 2 bad sectors | 21:46 |
| ali1234 | how can i find out which files were in those sectors? | 21:46 |
| ali1234 | ls -lR 2>../errors did it | 21:58 |
| togster | Evening all | 22:08 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: here is binary without splitscreen and nowhere for AIs to get stuck: http://ubuntuone.com/0zDlBMUOEfQ22n0r5Ng5gQ | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | it's about 4x faster for me... to be expected really | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | i think self-shadowing entities (like the tunnel) is also a big performance hit | 22:25 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: 271 best, 120 average | 22:25 |
| Azelphur | also my ship is wobbling | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | wobbling? | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | oh noes | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | wobbling how? | 22:26 |
| Azelphur | like when I drive along it's doing the right turn animation | 22:26 |
| Azelphur | but it's flickering between forward and right turn really fast, so wobbling | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | ok, that's your joystick, probably | 22:26 |
| Azelphur | could be | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | should not flicker though | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | you can record a video, if you have ffmpeg installed do VIDEOFILE=whatever.mkv ./rw | 22:27 |
| Azelphur | yea, by flicker I mean it's switching really fast | 22:27 |
| Azelphur | fun | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | does it do it when you are not moving? | 22:28 |
| Azelphur | nope | 22:28 |
| Azelphur | I think your probably right it's probably just my joystick | 22:29 |
| Azelphur | I get exactly the same effect if I mash the right button | 22:29 |
| ali1234 | that's the steering then. that shouldn't happen :/ | 22:29 |
| Azelphur | it could be my joystick | 22:29 |
| Azelphur | I know they are a bit iffy | 22:29 |
| Azelphur | (they are like a decade old) | 22:29 |
| ali1234 | the tilt on the ship is defined by forard velocity * steering + right slide - left slide | 22:30 |
| ali1234 | ie sliding tilts the ship if you are not moving, but steering does not | 22:30 |
| Azelphur | yea, it doesn't wobble if I'm standing still | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | sliding makes your ship move directly left or right, but it also reduces your grip, so you skid more. so powersliding basically :) | 22:32 |
| Azelphur | fun :D | 22:32 |
| * Azelphur is winning | 22:32 | |
| ali1234 | best lap time? | 22:32 |
| Azelphur | abuse all the boost | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | under 10 seconds is good, under 9 seconds is great :) | 22:32 |
| Azelphur | haha just closed the game, restarted it and got 9.655 | 22:33 |
| ali1234 | i think under 9 seconds might be impossible. i got 9.04 one time | 22:34 |
| Azelphur | fun | 22:34 |
| AlanBell | so what are the dependencies to get that to run? | 22:35 |
| Azelphur | libogre-1.7.4 and libois-1.3.0 | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | yeah and the datafiles | 22:35 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I found out something pretty cool for those korean monitors I bought, apparently you can order a new PCB and overclock them to 120hz | 22:36 |
| Azelphur | not sure how much the new PCB costs though, it isn't out yet | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | wow awesome | 22:36 |
| AlanBell | got a linky to the datafiles? | 22:36 |
| Azelphur | http://ubuntuone.com/5uweM7aLkMLiKSSvMnP4nH | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | you need a 6 axis joystick to play it also | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | if you have less than 6 axis it will crash horribly | 22:37 |
| Azelphur | I still need to get a new joystick | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | go xbox | 22:37 |
| Azelphur | nevar | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | seems to be the defacto standard these days for joypads | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | it's what i use | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | well, i use original xbox which has a slightly different mapping to the 360 pads | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | if I buy anything it'll either be a nice Logitech one, or just a crappy new playstation controller | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | which is really annoying | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | logitech should sponsor you | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | they should man | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | I buy all there things | 22:38 |
| AlanBell | dunno how many axis I have | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: what you actually need is two z-triggers and they need to be axis 2 and 5 | 22:39 |
| AlanBell | x,y twist, throttle, lots of buttons and an aiming joystick thing on the top | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | z-triggers aka shoulder triggers or whatever | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | i need to implement joystick remapping | 22:39 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: but yea, I like my logitech gaming kit, although the recent wave of hardware has been a bit of a disappointment | 22:40 |
| Azelphur | I've had 2 faults (4 total) with both my G19 and my G930 :( | 22:41 |
| Azelphur | but managed to get most of it sorted | 22:41 |
| AlanBell | just a black window for me | 22:42 |
| Azelphur | :o | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | what video card? | 22:43 |
| ali1234 | this won't work on any open source driver either | 22:43 |
| ali1234 | ok i just hastily implemented twist control for joysticks with < 6 axis | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: you should see lots of debug output on console too | 22:47 |
| ali1234 | hmm so if i copy a file over an already published file on U1, it automatically serves the new file on the old URL | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | spam email from google advertising nexus 7? | 23:01 |
| ali1234 | i am dissapoint | 23:02 |
| Azelphur | tell them you are disappoint and want a free nexus 7 | 23:10 |
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