/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/08/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

binarymutantsweet, I got conky to show what video I'm playing in mplayer00:01
chris4585I can't go a day without monster :<00:11
cyberangercofffee & cola hede00:14
binarymutantchris4585: +100:21
cyberangeror is that coffee & vodka?00:23
binarymutantyuck00:23
binarymutantI don't think your supposed to put vodka in coffee00:23
binarymutantwhiskey yes but vodka?00:23
cyberangerwell, scotch too00:25
binarymutantwhaaa00:25
cyberangerscotch or burbon, vodka was a joke00:26
binarymutantTN whiskey only :P00:27
cyberangerI don't allways drink like an irishman, but when I do, I don't remember it00:27
binarymutantlol!00:28
binarymutants/irishman/southerner00:28
cyberangerlol00:29
Mighty_PI like kahlua but I don't like it with vodka :<00:29
Mighty_PI like how I'm updating my tv computer and its going through the /lib issue right now00:29
binarymutantthat's a fun issue00:30
binarymutantthey'll be moving /bin into /usr bin in the future too00:30
binarymutantwhich makes absolutely no sense00:30
binarymutant{If it was up to me} they would move /usr/lib and /usr/bin into /lib and /bin. That would make more sense00:31
Mighty_Pbut /bin is more for system binaries I thought and /usr/bin is for more user application binaries00:32
binarymutantyes that's the FHS standard00:33
binarymutantand /lib was for system libs and /usr/lib was for user app's libs00:33
Mighty_Pwell I don't understand the move at all..00:33
Mighty_Pbut whatever, binarymutant for the /lib issue, delete everything in /lib right?00:34
binarymutantuhh no00:34
binarymutantfirst upgrade ignoring glibc00:34
Mighty_Pah00:34
binarymutanthang on let me find the link00:34
binarymutanthttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib00:35
binarymutantthe only thing you might have to delete is /lib/#{linux kernel}/modules00:36
Mighty_Pwell... thanks for the link but I had it open and I don't think I followed the steps correctly00:36
Mighty_Pregardless... I think I just foobar'd my system00:36
binarymutantyeah if you deleted /lib I'd say so but I think there's a way to fix it..00:36
Mighty_Pprobably00:36
Mighty_PI'll just use the new iso later, right now my friend wants to have a fire in the back yard00:37
Mighty_Plol00:37
Mighty_PI'll let you know what I do later, well toodles00:37
binarymutantln -s usr/lib lib00:37
Mighty_Plol00:38
Mighty_P[root@archbang chris]# ln -s usr/lib lib00:38
Mighty_Pbash: /bin/ln: No such file or directory00:38
Mighty_Pits alright I wouldn't have done that if I wasn't prepared to do a reinstall anyway00:38
Mighty_Pso bbiab00:38
binarymutantlaters00:38
chris4585lol I still can't believe I did that, I would run rm -rf /* if I could00:58
chris4585amazing how xchat still works though00:58
binarymutantlol01:01
chris4585the new iso is dual?01:01
chris4585thats weird01:01
binarymutantyes bc your bootstrapping it yourself01:02
chris4585gotcha01:02
alyawnwow...01:49
alyawnbinarymutant, well played: ln -s usr/lib lib01:50
alyawncould've ruined someone's day :)01:50
binarymutantI think chris4585 reinstalled anyways01:57
alyawnheh01:57
chris4585lol02:35
chris4585doesn't matter could run anything my system was borked02:35
chris4585its just something I use to play my little pony when I go to sleep or browse when someone is using my other monitor / ps302:36
chris4585couldn't*02:40
chris4585I just really love the fact my tv is ancient and only supports 1024x768 :|04:05
chris4585I think I'm going to do a frankenstein move and copy /lib from archbang livecd and see what happens...04:08
chris4585copying /lib didn't allow it to boot as I figured lol, it was a fun try, but doing pacstrap right now :D06:13
binarymutantlol06:17
binarymutantyou killed the kernel on it06:17
chris4585right... that reminds me.. I removed the kernel earlier anyway before I foobar'd, I was going to reinstall once I had /lib fixed06:19
chris4585that might explain why it didn't boot though, it could have worked LOL06:19
binarymutantnext time remember not to rm what your using06:20
binarymutantor need06:21
binarymutantor rm -rf /06:21
chris4585lol06:22
chris4585its pretty entertaining though06:23
binarymutantI can't get this script right..06:25
binarymutant;/06:25
chris4585I hate it when that happens, I usually just try to figure out a different way to do it06:29
binarymutantgot it06:38
binarymutantdoubling the sed usuage06:39
binarymutantgrep -s ID_FILENAME $HOME/.mplayer/mplayer.log | sed 's|.*/||' | sed 's/ID_FILENAME\=//'06:39
binarymutantidk why I had to search for that first regex, it's easy stuff06:43
binarymutantmy blank at 2:45am I guess06:43
binarymutants/my/mind06:43
chris4585oh god sed can be very confusing sometimes...06:45
chris4585sed -i "s/$(grep "export USERNAME" ${WORK}/rootfs/etc/casper.conf)/export USERNAME=${user}/g" ${WORK}/rootfs/etc/casper.conf06:47
chris4585that... is the most confusing line I've ever had to come up with06:47
chris4585so many brackets and shit...06:47
chris4585I believe that edited a file for user inputted data into casper.conf06:49
chris4585that was so long ago lol06:49
chris4585also I got my tv booted woot06:49
binarymutantsweet06:53
binarymutantyour right that sed is confusing06:54
chris4585LOL my username is displayed as passwd chris07:34
chris4585because I wasn't paying attention07:34
chris4585scp'ing mlp over to my tv compy, glad I have an updated install now...07:56
xTEMPLARxg'morning13:35
alyawnmornin'13:37
wrsthowdy14:39
chris4585moo14:53
wrsthello chris4585 :)14:56
chris4585hey wrst, how are you this morning?14:56
wrstdoing well chris4585, just hungry, had a flat tire this morning and no time for breakfast about to have lunch early14:57
chris4585ouch, I know how a flat tire goes... our road is made out of crushed tile and I believe its taken two of our tires before14:58
chris4585hope you get something awesome for lunch then to compensate14:59
wrstha bologna sandwich15:03
chris4585at least its food15:11
wrsti'm pretty fond of bologna15:41
chris4585I am too, I just can't handle more than a slice at a time15:42
wrstsadly i can15:45
netritiousneat...quassel on droid16:18
wrstnetritious: yes its... quasseldroid ;)16:24
wrstit has pretty full featured functionality now too16:24
netritiousso far it works great on my new phone16:25
xTEMPLARxno quassel on iOS yet :(16:27
chris4585one thing I found strange about the new arch install method is that the network seemed automagically setup, so I felt dumb because I haven't configured all that jazz in a while...16:27
chris4585I felt somewhat dumb but knew what I was doing at the same time heh16:28
xTEMPLARxsame here chris16:28
chris4585glad I'm not alone then :)16:29
xTEMPLARxit was familiar to me (from slackware installs from long ago) but at the same time I hesitated at every turn16:29
xTEMPLARxplus, there's the lazy side of me that, although I know the system will run better with less bloat, the simplicity of a one-button-installs-all installation is attractive16:29
chris4585yeah, like I'm really familiar with bootstrapping and chrooting but never installed a system with that method like that before16:30
chris4585and I felt dumb because things were working without me having to setup things like xorg.. and grub and I really wanted to set them both up and they work without me knowing how...16:31
xTEMPLARxhaha16:32
xTEMPLARxxorg isn't working on my arch VM yet16:32
xTEMPLARxbut I'm sure I installed things backwardly16:33
xTEMPLARxinstalled xorg AFTER installing gnome16:33
xTEMPLARxderp16:33
xTEMPLARxbrb16:36
xTEMPLARxhrm16:39
xTEMPLARxauto identify didn't do its thing16:39
xTEMPLARxah nm it did, just late16:40
netritiousxTEMPLARx: which hypervisor do you use?16:40
xTEMPLARxfor my work VMs?16:40
xTEMPLARxVMWare eSXi16:40
netritiousjust curious. populr choice.16:42
xTEMPLARxI had fun setting it up16:42
xTEMPLARxI do wish, however, that we had the paid version for a bit more control16:43
xTEMPLARxthe free version is very nice16:43
xTEMPLARxbut when trying to allow bare-metal hardware access it doesn't always let you16:43
xTEMPLARxNICs being one thing16:43
netritioussomething is wrong with the keymp on my glide with qussel. cn you guess wht it is? lol16:43
xTEMPLARxlol16:43
xTEMPLARxA's are overrated anyway16:43
xTEMPLARxsays the guy who used five of them in that brief sentence.16:44
netritiousxTEMPLARx: weird workaround to get an 'a' :/16:45
xTEMPLARxwhat'd ya do?16:45
netritiouscombo of both hard and soft keys16:45
netritiousif I want to highlighta Nick I have to use hard keys.16:46
netritiousBTW good afternoon every body16:48
chris4585hey netritious16:48
xTEMPLARxgood afternoon :)16:51
xTEMPLARxwow:  http://bit.ly/S2SFsB16:55
chris4585honestly I'd be impressed if they just switched to LXDE16:59
wrstxTEMPLARx: i noticed that just a few minutes ago17:05
Svpernova09yay debian :X17:26
netritiousSvpernova09: rut roh?17:28
binarymutantwhat's up with debian?17:31
Svpernova09they're going to ship with XFCE default instead of gnome17:32
Svpernova09Citing reasons of fitting gnome on a CD17:32
binarymutantlol17:33
binarymutantthe Linux world is so resistant to change :D17:34
alyawnwith all of their moving parts, I'll be glad when CD/DVD/Bluray dies17:34
netritious I always install minimal then add desktop on debian17:34
binarymutantalyawn: +!17:34
binarymutantnetritious: +117:34
binarymutanteverybody gets a plus one lol17:34
netritiouseven Svpernova09 ? :)17:35
alyawnbinarymutant, +1 for +1ing17:35
netritiousLOL17:35
binarymutantI say yay to xfce17:35
binarymutanteven if I don't use it17:35
binarymutantgtk2 will never die lol17:36
Svpernova09armageddon couldn't kill gtk217:36
alyawnyeah.. I used to do xubuntu for a while... things were so simple then... hmmm17:36
Svpernova09lol17:36
alyawnany of you guys going to the library meeting thing?17:37
binarymutant?17:37
binarymutantwest tn?17:38
alyawnsorry.. chatt17:38
alyawnI suck at context17:38
xTEMPLARxI haven't been to a library meeting since I was in college17:39
xTEMPLARxchattanooga is an hour away from me17:39
xTEMPLARxtoo far to go for a library visit17:39
xTEMPLARx:D17:39
alyawn:)17:39
alyawnapparently they do still exist... and this one wants to talk with some geeks17:40
binarymutantoh so it's not like a LUG meeting?17:40
alyawnwell they invited the chugalug list17:41
binarymutantthat's cool17:41
alyawnwe'll see17:41
binarymutantI wonder what it's about? I bet they're asking for donations or something17:41
alyawnno.. they have an entire vacant floor they'd like to dedicate to technology learning17:42
alyawnor something like that17:42
binarymutantoh that's cool17:42
alyawnprobably looking for spare parts and boat anchors17:42
binarymutantthe only problem with general tech meetings like that are they usually revolve around beginner, end user, stuff17:44
binarymutantor at least my experience with them17:47
vychuneo/18:25
binarymutanthello18:28
xTEMPLARxgreets vych18:29
vychunebinarymutant: quickbooks told this guy he can use his windows server and he still wants to use linux when quickbooks sucks balls on it18:32
vychunehe wants open suse now :/18:32
Svpernova09lol18:33
Svpernova09he wants CentOS, he just doesn't know it.18:33
binarymutantmid sized business's are weird18:33
vychuneSvpernova09: here's one part for you, he wants to do a Joomla install next18:33
binarymutantfor his site?18:33
vychuneyes18:33
binarymutantthat's cool18:34
vychunei dont wanna do it18:34
Svpernova09Joomla? NOPE!18:34
binarymutantlol why?18:34
* Svpernova09 ducks18:34
vychunehe's what i call echecpo18:34
binarymutantwhat's wrong with Joomla?18:34
vychunes/echecpo/el cheapo/18:34
Svpernova09My issues with joomla are largely personal preference based.18:35
binarymutantah18:35
vychunebinarymutant: nothing, just takes to damn long lol18:35
binarymutantall cms's are the same to me18:35
binarymutantkind of like distros and everything else lol18:35
vychunebinarymutant: which is why im trying to tell him it still wont work, quckbooks i mean18:36
binarymutanttoo bad this is in memphis I could use some cash lol18:36
vychunecome on down pleaSE LOL18:36
vychuneThe first thing he is gonna say, " Can you give me a better price."18:37
binarymutantI'd be like "I'll give you it for free"18:38
binarymutantand then sell the support for $$$18:38
vychuneyou wont herar from him then lol18:41
binarymutantlol18:41
vychunejesus my typing today18:41
binarymutantI don't work for free :P18:41
vychunes/herar/hear18:41
vychunei dont eiether18:41
vychunewhich is why i may drop this job18:41
* wrst is married he works for free18:41
binarymutantlol!18:42
vychunesmh18:42
vychuneshould i charge for this opensuse install?18:44
binarymutantnah18:45
binarymutantit's like 10 minutes of your time18:45
wrstopensuse si fairly nice18:45
binarymutantthey're attached to MS though18:46
vychunei thought they were novell?18:46
binarymutantwhich is only an issue to me lol18:46
binarymutantvychune: they are owned by novell, novell signed deals with MS18:47
vychunewhich is why QB is supported18:47
vychuneb***hes18:47
binarymutantI didn't think qb was owned by ms18:47
vychunewell not really.18:47
vychunethey arent18:47
binarymutantvychune: no, MS said they'd sell suse to some key customers for some linux patents18:48
binarymutant^ or something like that18:48
vychune"the well not really" was about me saying b***hes btyw18:48
vychunes/btyw/btw18:48
vychunewrst: o/18:49
binarymutantI bought a cheap laptop cooling pad today. I'm surprised at how well it works even though it doesn't spin very fast19:00
netritiousbinarymutant: nice19:03
binarymutantthought it would spin faster19:05
netritiousSvpernova09: +1 Joomla! sucks. I don't like frameworks that hijack k19:06
netritiousthe output buffer19:07
vychunebinarymutant: cool19:09
binarymutantphp_value output_buffering Off19:09
vychunenetritious: o/19:09
netritiousvychune: hi19:10
vychuneso im gonna do openSUSE19:10
binarymutantthat's cool19:11
netritiousbinarymutant: I want the buffer all to myself :)19:11
binarymutant:P19:11
binarymutantif a client says they want joomla I say give it to em19:12
vychunebinarymutant: sure19:12
vychuneSvpernova09: how much should i charge :D19:12
Svpernova09You're supposed to work that out before you start the job :_X19:15
vychuneSvpernova09: havent started yet19:15
vychunehe asked about this after the server setup19:15
vychuneand i was joking btw19:16
Svpernova09I never joke about that, peeps gotta take you seriously :_D19:17
vychunebut if you wanna give your price still that's cool too19:17
vychunetrue19:17
binarymutant1 million usd muahaha19:17
vychuneLOL19:17
Svpernova09You may not be at my skill level. So your price will likely be different.19:17
binarymutantor 10 bitcoins :P19:17
Svpernova09You have to charge accordingly or you'll likely be over/under charging19:17
vychuneof course19:18
vychunei was thinking 350 tbh19:18
vychuneunless he wants me to code the template19:18
binarymutant^ I need to get in on this business19:18
vychunei would love the help lol19:19
vychunewould be less boring in here lol19:19
binarymutant350 less than an hour worth work, omg I'm making 9 an hour :(19:19
vychunebinarymutant: thats the install, the setup, the content, and everything else up to the launch19:20
binarymutantyeah19:21
vychunewith what he wants i'll be here another week19:21
binarymutantoh19:21
vychunelol yeah19:21
binarymutantstill more than what I make cooking lol19:21
vychunemore than what i make at fedex too lol19:22
binarymutantI don't think it should take that long, the content already exists19:22
binarymutantwhats wrong with the pre-existing site? it's decent19:23
vychuneoro?!19:24
vychunewhat site?19:24
binarymutantwhat's the name again?19:24
vychunefred remmers rug cleaners19:24
binarymutantthe rug place right?19:24
binarymutanthttp://www.fredremmersrugcleaners.com/19:24
vychunealready found it lol19:25
vychuneand.....-_- thats joomla19:25
binarymutantmaybe the cms is for internal/in-house19:25
vychuneno19:25
vychunewait, it not joomla19:26
vychuneit's19:26
vychunehe has another site that looks like that in joomnla19:27
vychunemeaning he did it himself19:27
binarymutantI mean I could nitpick at the website... but it's decent enough19:27
vychuneyeah it is19:27
binarymutantspoke too soon, the redirect to rugandroll.com is lamesville19:28
vychunewhere?19:29
binarymutantrug gallery->select a rug->redirect19:29
vychuneoh...19:30
vychuneoh does opensuse server come with GUI?19:31
binarymutantprolly but it shouldn't19:31
vychuneoh ok19:34
vychunewhy is a gui bad on a server?19:34
binarymutantwaste of resources19:35
binarymutantmore security risk, etc.19:35
vychuneoh19:36
vychunewell he wants it so whatever19:37
vychuneim losing money on this if i stay out here any longer19:38
vychunethan this week19:38
binarymutantso silly19:38
vychunetakes a lot for me to get here19:38
vychunewhats silly?19:39
binarymutantvendor lock in & unscalable setups19:39
binarymutantis this 'server' just a desktop in a closet?19:40
vychunedell poweredge; nope19:40
binarymutanttower?19:40
vychunehe has a half rack with two servers already19:40
vychuneblade server19:41
binarymutanthalf a rack, each running xorg?19:41
vychuneno19:41
vychunewindows19:41
binarymutantmid sized business's are weird :/19:42
vychunelol19:43
binarymutantsmall business owners can change their ways to setup a good scalable system, big business already has that setup, mid size tends to be stuck with limiting itself until it literally has to change19:44
vychunesounds like mid siz biz19:46
vychuneopenSUSE install reminds me of Windows XP19:48
binarymutantI can see dedicating a 1U rack for the domain and AD, but no more than that19:49
vychunead?19:49
binarymutantactive directory19:49
vychuneoh19:49
vychunehe has a camera sys19:50
vychuneguess what else is on that server?19:51
vychunequickbooks19:51
wrstvychune: running quickbooks on a linux server?19:56
vychunewrst: attempting to19:57
vychuneeven though he has it on winblows19:57
wrsti have never done that i know their packages are pretty pricey but it looks interesting19:57
vychuneno one on that staff knows what linux even is19:58
binarymutantthey don't have to know19:58
binarymutantend users shouldn't care19:58
wrstnope as long as it works no one cares if its running on bacon19:58
vychuneuntil we have a problem19:58
binarymutantnah problems are your dept. :P19:59
wrstha ha19:59
binarymutantI'm sure that staff think facebook uses quickbooks :D20:00
wrstdoes quickbooks support ubuntu on the server i figured they would probably just be a red hat kind of thing20:00
vychuneopensuse opnly20:00
vychune*only20:00
wrstahh ok20:01
wrstthat makes sense to me actually20:01
vychunewhy?20:01
wrstyou are tying in with a lot of MS machines and OpenSUSE works well in that environment20:02
wrsthttp://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/Articles/INF1243520:02
wrstlooks like it should work with red hat also20:02
binarymutantyeah RH supports it20:02
wrsthmm i may be looking at old stuff20:02
binarymutantfor $3k a year RH supports everything20:03
wrstha ha :)20:03
wrstgood good point binarymutant!20:03
binarymutantI still can't believe RH is a billion dollar business now20:05
wrstbinarymutant: no one can make money off linux ;)20:05
binarymutantstill astonishing20:06
wrstlots o' $$$20:08
vychunelol20:09
binarymutant$,$$$,$$$,$$$+20:09
wrstexactly20:09
binarymutanthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMas0tWc0sg  ( ゚ Д゚)20:14
chris4585nothing like a nap when you haven't gone to bed yet :<20:25
binarymutanta 10 hour nap?20:26
chris4585nope, more like 2 or 320:26
binarymutanthow you do that20:27
chris4585sleep in clothes and get a phone call20:28
chris4585... :/20:28
chris4585wb20:28
binarymutantstoopid wifi20:28
binarymutantI do the: "ima just lay down", blink, and it's 10 hours later20:29
chris4585sleep in clothes and get a phone call20:29
chris4585if I sleep in clothes I don't sleep as long20:29
chris4585amazingly though I had a pretty vivid dream in that short amount of time20:29
binarymutantcrazy sleeping habits are fun lol20:29
vychune1880 broken dependces20:33
binarymutantrun an update first?20:33
binarymutantor reload or whatever suse calls it20:33
vychunethats what im doing20:34
wrstelijah-mbp: did you shut your lid again? :)20:34
elijah-mbpi paid the price for sitting on the couch writing code and not paying attention to alerts.20:34
elijah-mbpso it shut down on me.20:35
wrstwell at least you were working on your couch, and I hope everything was saved recently20:35
binarymutantangry fist shake at the orange led20:36
chris4585my laptop is lucky to get a good full 2.5hrs out of it20:37
binarymutantI think conky ruined my battery by polling every .8 seconds20:38
vychunebinarymutant: online update is what suse calls it20:40
binarymutantah20:42
binarymutantI'm trying to stop myself from calling it bacon20:43
binarymutantwrst put the idea in my head20:43
* wrst apologizes :)20:44
binarymutant:P20:44
vychuneLOL20:45
vychunewhy bacon?20:45
binarymutantearlier, "end users don't care if it's called bacon" or some comment like that20:46
binarymutantit stuck20:46
Svpernova09netritious: virtualmin doesn't like database names w/ upper case letters.20:47
netritiousSvpernova09: I've never tried20:58
Svpernova09Yeah, there's something that's doing a string to lower function.20:58
Svpernova09The way around it is to create the database, then use phpmyadmin to rename it.21:00
Svpernova09Or I'm sure you could create it through mysql.21:01
vychuneme and opensuse are not friend right now21:05
chris4585opensuse is too bloated for my liking...21:14
vychunechris4585: my sentements exactly'21:16
vychuneo_O why is linphone on here by defalut?!?!?21:18
vychune now the update fails21:24
vychune.fml21:29
vychunecrap wrong chan21:29
binarymutantwhoa https://github.com/bundestag/gesetze#german-federal-laws-and-regulations21:31
vychunekernel panic21:31
vychuneFUUUUUUUUU21:31
binarymutantvychune: what are you doing?21:31
vychunewas updating that failed21:31
vychunerestarted21:32
vychunekernel panic21:32
binarymutantsucks21:32
binarymutantif updates fail the last thing I would do is reboot21:33
binarymutantrebooting to fix problems is a windows symptom21:33
vychuneopensuse acts like windows21:34
vychuneso i got confused21:34
binarymutantbut its not windows21:34
vychuneit was a joke21:34
binarymutantheh21:34
vychunelol i got worse21:35
Svpernova09has anyone ever used etckeeper?21:37
vychune,leaving21:42
vychuneo/21:42
vychunebbl21:43
vychuneo/23:20

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