[00:01] sweet, I got conky to show what video I'm playing in mplayer [00:11] I can't go a day without monster :< [00:14] cofffee & cola hede [00:21] chris4585: +1 [00:23] or is that coffee & vodka? [00:23] yuck [00:23] I don't think your supposed to put vodka in coffee [00:23] whiskey yes but vodka? [00:25] well, scotch too [00:25] whaaa [00:26] scotch or burbon, vodka was a joke [00:27] TN whiskey only :P [00:27] I don't allways drink like an irishman, but when I do, I don't remember it [00:28] lol! [00:28] s/irishman/southerner [00:29] lol [00:29] I like kahlua but I don't like it with vodka :< [00:29] I like how I'm updating my tv computer and its going through the /lib issue right now [00:30] that's a fun issue [00:30] they'll be moving /bin into /usr bin in the future too [00:30] which makes absolutely no sense [00:31] {If it was up to me} they would move /usr/lib and /usr/bin into /lib and /bin. That would make more sense [00:32] but /bin is more for system binaries I thought and /usr/bin is for more user application binaries [00:33] yes that's the FHS standard [00:33] and /lib was for system libs and /usr/lib was for user app's libs [00:33] well I don't understand the move at all.. [00:34] but whatever, binarymutant for the /lib issue, delete everything in /lib right? [00:34] uhh no [00:34] first upgrade ignoring glibc [00:34] ah [00:34] hang on let me find the link [00:35] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib [00:36] the only thing you might have to delete is /lib/#{linux kernel}/modules [00:36] well... thanks for the link but I had it open and I don't think I followed the steps correctly [00:36] regardless... I think I just foobar'd my system [00:36] yeah if you deleted /lib I'd say so but I think there's a way to fix it.. [00:36] probably [00:37] I'll just use the new iso later, right now my friend wants to have a fire in the back yard [00:37] lol [00:37] I'll let you know what I do later, well toodles [00:37] ln -s usr/lib lib [00:38] lol [00:38] [root@archbang chris]# ln -s usr/lib lib [00:38] bash: /bin/ln: No such file or directory [00:38] its alright I wouldn't have done that if I wasn't prepared to do a reinstall anyway [00:38] so bbiab [00:38] laters [00:58] lol I still can't believe I did that, I would run rm -rf /* if I could [00:58] amazing how xchat still works though [01:01] lol [01:01] the new iso is dual? [01:01] thats weird [01:02] yes bc your bootstrapping it yourself [01:02] gotcha [01:49] wow... [01:50] binarymutant, well played: ln -s usr/lib lib [01:50] could've ruined someone's day :) [01:57] I think chris4585 reinstalled anyways [01:57] heh [02:35] lol [02:35] doesn't matter could run anything my system was borked [02:36] its just something I use to play my little pony when I go to sleep or browse when someone is using my other monitor / ps3 [02:40] couldn't* [04:05] I just really love the fact my tv is ancient and only supports 1024x768 :| [04:08] I think I'm going to do a frankenstein move and copy /lib from archbang livecd and see what happens... [06:13] copying /lib didn't allow it to boot as I figured lol, it was a fun try, but doing pacstrap right now :D [06:17] lol [06:17] you killed the kernel on it [06:19] right... that reminds me.. I removed the kernel earlier anyway before I foobar'd, I was going to reinstall once I had /lib fixed [06:19] that might explain why it didn't boot though, it could have worked LOL [06:20] next time remember not to rm what your using [06:21] or need [06:21] or rm -rf / [06:22] lol [06:23] its pretty entertaining though [06:25] I can't get this script right.. [06:25] ;/ [06:29] I hate it when that happens, I usually just try to figure out a different way to do it [06:38] got it [06:39] doubling the sed usuage [06:39] grep -s ID_FILENAME $HOME/.mplayer/mplayer.log | sed 's|.*/||' | sed 's/ID_FILENAME\=//' [06:43] idk why I had to search for that first regex, it's easy stuff [06:43] my blank at 2:45am I guess [06:43] s/my/mind [06:45] oh god sed can be very confusing sometimes... [06:47] sed -i "s/$(grep "export USERNAME" ${WORK}/rootfs/etc/casper.conf)/export USERNAME=${user}/g" ${WORK}/rootfs/etc/casper.conf [06:47] that... is the most confusing line I've ever had to come up with [06:47] so many brackets and shit... [06:49] I believe that edited a file for user inputted data into casper.conf [06:49] that was so long ago lol [06:49] also I got my tv booted woot [06:53] sweet [06:54] your right that sed is confusing [07:34] LOL my username is displayed as passwd chris [07:34] because I wasn't paying attention [07:56] scp'ing mlp over to my tv compy, glad I have an updated install now... [13:35] g'morning [13:37] mornin' [14:39] howdy [14:53] moo [14:56] hello chris4585 :) [14:56] hey wrst, how are you this morning? [14:57] doing well chris4585, just hungry, had a flat tire this morning and no time for breakfast about to have lunch early [14:58] ouch, I know how a flat tire goes... our road is made out of crushed tile and I believe its taken two of our tires before [14:59] hope you get something awesome for lunch then to compensate [15:03] ha bologna sandwich [15:11] at least its food [15:41] i'm pretty fond of bologna [15:42] I am too, I just can't handle more than a slice at a time [15:45] sadly i can [16:18] neat...quassel on droid [16:24] netritious: yes its... quasseldroid ;) [16:24] it has pretty full featured functionality now too [16:25] so far it works great on my new phone [16:27] no quassel on iOS yet :( [16:27] one thing I found strange about the new arch install method is that the network seemed automagically setup, so I felt dumb because I haven't configured all that jazz in a while... [16:28] I felt somewhat dumb but knew what I was doing at the same time heh [16:28] same here chris [16:29] glad I'm not alone then :) [16:29] it was familiar to me (from slackware installs from long ago) but at the same time I hesitated at every turn [16:29] plus, there's the lazy side of me that, although I know the system will run better with less bloat, the simplicity of a one-button-installs-all installation is attractive [16:30] yeah, like I'm really familiar with bootstrapping and chrooting but never installed a system with that method like that before [16:31] and I felt dumb because things were working without me having to setup things like xorg.. and grub and I really wanted to set them both up and they work without me knowing how... [16:32] haha [16:32] xorg isn't working on my arch VM yet [16:33] but I'm sure I installed things backwardly [16:33] installed xorg AFTER installing gnome [16:33] derp [16:36] brb [16:39] hrm [16:39] auto identify didn't do its thing [16:40] ah nm it did, just late [16:40] xTEMPLARx: which hypervisor do you use? [16:40] for my work VMs? [16:40] VMWare eSXi [16:42] just curious. populr choice. [16:42] I had fun setting it up [16:43] I do wish, however, that we had the paid version for a bit more control [16:43] the free version is very nice [16:43] but when trying to allow bare-metal hardware access it doesn't always let you [16:43] NICs being one thing [16:43] something is wrong with the keymp on my glide with qussel. cn you guess wht it is? lol [16:43] lol [16:43] A's are overrated anyway [16:44] says the guy who used five of them in that brief sentence. [16:45] xTEMPLARx: weird workaround to get an 'a' :/ [16:45] what'd ya do? [16:45] combo of both hard and soft keys [16:46] if I want to highlighta Nick I have to use hard keys. [16:48] BTW good afternoon every body [16:48] hey netritious [16:51] good afternoon :) [16:55] wow: http://bit.ly/S2SFsB [16:59] honestly I'd be impressed if they just switched to LXDE [17:05] xTEMPLARx: i noticed that just a few minutes ago [17:26] yay debian :X [17:28] Svpernova09: rut roh? [17:31] what's up with debian? [17:32] they're going to ship with XFCE default instead of gnome [17:32] Citing reasons of fitting gnome on a CD [17:33] lol [17:34] the Linux world is so resistant to change :D [17:34] with all of their moving parts, I'll be glad when CD/DVD/Bluray dies [17:34] I always install minimal then add desktop on debian [17:34] alyawn: +! [17:34] netritious: +1 [17:34] everybody gets a plus one lol [17:35] even Svpernova09 ? :) [17:35] binarymutant, +1 for +1ing [17:35] LOL [17:35] I say yay to xfce [17:35] even if I don't use it [17:36] gtk2 will never die lol [17:36] armageddon couldn't kill gtk2 [17:36] yeah.. I used to do xubuntu for a while... things were so simple then... hmmm [17:36] lol [17:37] any of you guys going to the library meeting thing? [17:37] ? [17:38] west tn? [17:38] sorry.. chatt [17:38] I suck at context [17:39] I haven't been to a library meeting since I was in college [17:39] chattanooga is an hour away from me [17:39] too far to go for a library visit [17:39] :D [17:39] :) [17:40] apparently they do still exist... and this one wants to talk with some geeks [17:40] oh so it's not like a LUG meeting? [17:41] well they invited the chugalug list [17:41] that's cool [17:41] we'll see [17:41] I wonder what it's about? I bet they're asking for donations or something [17:42] no.. they have an entire vacant floor they'd like to dedicate to technology learning [17:42] or something like that [17:42] oh that's cool [17:42] probably looking for spare parts and boat anchors [17:44] the only problem with general tech meetings like that are they usually revolve around beginner, end user, stuff [17:47] or at least my experience with them [18:25] o/ [18:28] hello [18:29] greets vych [18:32] binarymutant: quickbooks told this guy he can use his windows server and he still wants to use linux when quickbooks sucks balls on it [18:32] he wants open suse now :/ [18:33] lol [18:33] he wants CentOS, he just doesn't know it. [18:33] mid sized business's are weird [18:33] Svpernova09: here's one part for you, he wants to do a Joomla install next [18:33] for his site? [18:33] yes [18:34] that's cool [18:34] i dont wanna do it [18:34] Joomla? NOPE! [18:34] lol why? [18:34] * Svpernova09 ducks [18:34] he's what i call echecpo [18:34] what's wrong with Joomla? [18:34] s/echecpo/el cheapo/ [18:35] My issues with joomla are largely personal preference based. [18:35] ah [18:35] binarymutant: nothing, just takes to damn long lol [18:35] all cms's are the same to me [18:35] kind of like distros and everything else lol [18:36] binarymutant: which is why im trying to tell him it still wont work, quckbooks i mean [18:36] too bad this is in memphis I could use some cash lol [18:36] come on down pleaSE LOL [18:37] The first thing he is gonna say, " Can you give me a better price." [18:38] I'd be like "I'll give you it for free" [18:38] and then sell the support for $$$ [18:41] you wont herar from him then lol [18:41] lol [18:41] jesus my typing today [18:41] I don't work for free :P [18:41] s/herar/hear [18:41] i dont eiether [18:41] which is why i may drop this job [18:41] * wrst is married he works for free [18:42] lol! [18:42] smh [18:44] should i charge for this opensuse install? [18:45] nah [18:45] it's like 10 minutes of your time [18:45] opensuse si fairly nice [18:46] they're attached to MS though [18:46] i thought they were novell? [18:46] which is only an issue to me lol [18:47] vychune: they are owned by novell, novell signed deals with MS [18:47] which is why QB is supported [18:47] b***hes [18:47] I didn't think qb was owned by ms [18:47] well not really. [18:47] they arent [18:48] vychune: no, MS said they'd sell suse to some key customers for some linux patents [18:48] ^ or something like that [18:48] "the well not really" was about me saying b***hes btyw [18:48] s/btyw/btw [18:49] wrst: o/ [19:00] I bought a cheap laptop cooling pad today. I'm surprised at how well it works even though it doesn't spin very fast [19:03] binarymutant: nice [19:05] thought it would spin faster [19:06] Svpernova09: +1 Joomla! sucks. I don't like frameworks that hijack k [19:07] the output buffer [19:09] binarymutant: cool [19:09] php_value output_buffering Off [19:09] netritious: o/ [19:10] vychune: hi [19:10] so im gonna do openSUSE [19:11] that's cool [19:11] binarymutant: I want the buffer all to myself :) [19:11] :P [19:12] if a client says they want joomla I say give it to em [19:12] binarymutant: sure [19:12] Svpernova09: how much should i charge :D [19:15] You're supposed to work that out before you start the job :_X [19:15] Svpernova09: havent started yet [19:15] he asked about this after the server setup [19:16] and i was joking btw [19:17] I never joke about that, peeps gotta take you seriously :_D [19:17] but if you wanna give your price still that's cool too [19:17] true [19:17] 1 million usd muahaha [19:17] LOL [19:17] You may not be at my skill level. So your price will likely be different. [19:17] or 10 bitcoins :P [19:17] You have to charge accordingly or you'll likely be over/under charging [19:18] of course [19:18] i was thinking 350 tbh [19:18] unless he wants me to code the template [19:18] ^ I need to get in on this business [19:19] i would love the help lol [19:19] would be less boring in here lol [19:19] 350 less than an hour worth work, omg I'm making 9 an hour :( [19:20] binarymutant: thats the install, the setup, the content, and everything else up to the launch [19:21] yeah [19:21] with what he wants i'll be here another week [19:21] oh [19:21] lol yeah [19:21] still more than what I make cooking lol [19:22] more than what i make at fedex too lol [19:22] I don't think it should take that long, the content already exists [19:23] whats wrong with the pre-existing site? it's decent [19:24] oro?! [19:24] what site? [19:24] what's the name again? [19:24] fred remmers rug cleaners [19:24] the rug place right? [19:24] http://www.fredremmersrugcleaners.com/ [19:25] already found it lol [19:25] and.....-_- thats joomla [19:25] maybe the cms is for internal/in-house [19:25] no [19:26] wait, it not joomla [19:26] it's [19:27] he has another site that looks like that in joomnla [19:27] meaning he did it himself [19:27] I mean I could nitpick at the website... but it's decent enough [19:27] yeah it is [19:28] spoke too soon, the redirect to rugandroll.com is lamesville [19:29] where? [19:29] rug gallery->select a rug->redirect [19:30] oh... [19:31] oh does opensuse server come with GUI? [19:31] prolly but it shouldn't [19:34] oh ok [19:34] why is a gui bad on a server? [19:35] waste of resources [19:35] more security risk, etc. [19:36] oh [19:37] well he wants it so whatever [19:38] im losing money on this if i stay out here any longer [19:38] than this week [19:38] so silly [19:38] takes a lot for me to get here [19:39] whats silly? [19:39] vendor lock in & unscalable setups [19:40] is this 'server' just a desktop in a closet? [19:40] dell poweredge; nope [19:40] tower? [19:40] he has a half rack with two servers already [19:41] blade server [19:41] half a rack, each running xorg? [19:41] no [19:41] windows [19:42] mid sized business's are weird :/ [19:43] lol [19:44] small business owners can change their ways to setup a good scalable system, big business already has that setup, mid size tends to be stuck with limiting itself until it literally has to change [19:46] sounds like mid siz biz [19:48] openSUSE install reminds me of Windows XP [19:49] I can see dedicating a 1U rack for the domain and AD, but no more than that [19:49] ad? [19:49] active directory [19:49] oh [19:50] he has a camera sys [19:51] guess what else is on that server? [19:51] quickbooks [19:56] vychune: running quickbooks on a linux server? [19:57] wrst: attempting to [19:57] even though he has it on winblows [19:57] i have never done that i know their packages are pretty pricey but it looks interesting [19:58] no one on that staff knows what linux even is [19:58] they don't have to know [19:58] end users shouldn't care [19:58] nope as long as it works no one cares if its running on bacon [19:58] until we have a problem [19:59] nah problems are your dept. :P [19:59] ha ha [20:00] I'm sure that staff think facebook uses quickbooks :D [20:00] does quickbooks support ubuntu on the server i figured they would probably just be a red hat kind of thing [20:00] opensuse opnly [20:00] *only [20:01] ahh ok [20:01] that makes sense to me actually [20:01] why? [20:02] you are tying in with a lot of MS machines and OpenSUSE works well in that environment [20:02] http://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/Articles/INF12435 [20:02] looks like it should work with red hat also [20:02] yeah RH supports it [20:02] hmm i may be looking at old stuff [20:03] for $3k a year RH supports everything [20:03] ha ha :) [20:03] good good point binarymutant! [20:05] I still can't believe RH is a billion dollar business now [20:05] binarymutant: no one can make money off linux ;) [20:06] still astonishing [20:08] lots o' $$$ [20:09] lol [20:09] $,$$$,$$$,$$$+ [20:09] exactly [20:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMas0tWc0sg （　ﾟ Дﾟ） [20:25] nothing like a nap when you haven't gone to bed yet :< [20:26] a 10 hour nap? [20:26] nope, more like 2 or 3 [20:27] how you do that [20:28] sleep in clothes and get a phone call [20:28] ... :/ [20:28] wb [20:28] stoopid wifi [20:29] I do the: "ima just lay down", blink, and it's 10 hours later [20:29] sleep in clothes and get a phone call [20:29] if I sleep in clothes I don't sleep as long [20:29] amazingly though I had a pretty vivid dream in that short amount of time [20:29] crazy sleeping habits are fun lol [20:33] 1880 broken dependces [20:33]