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=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
KilosCooold morning to you all05:32
KilosMaaz_, coffee on05:32
* Maaz_ flips the salt-timer05:32
KilosMaaz_, hot05:32
Maaz_Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!05:32
Kiloshiya drussell hows things05:33
KilosMaaz_, fix your tail05:35
Maaz_Kilos: Excuse me?05:35
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos!05:36
KilosMaaz_, danke05:36
Maaz_Bitteschön05:36
nuvolario/ morning oom Kilos 05:37
nuvolariMaaz_: coffee please05:37
Maaz_nuvolari: There isn't a pot on05:37
nuvolariMaaz_: coffee on05:37
* Maaz_ starts grinding coffee05:37
Kiloslo nuvolari cold hey?05:37
nuvolariMaaz_: having a tail day?05:37
Maaz_nuvolari: *blink*05:37
nuvolariKilos: ya oom!05:37
nuvolarihere as well05:37
nuvolariraining cats and dogs05:37
Kiloshele N3 toe05:37
Kilosvilliers tot mooi river05:37
Kiloswish we could get some rain. never seen this place so dry05:38
nuvolarijoh05:39
nuvolarimeh, got to go :-/05:39
Kilosklank werk!!!!05:39
Kilosmoet in bios ac97 dooi05:40
Kilosnou het ek n deja-dup gedoen so worry nie meer om oor te instaleer nie05:41
Maaz_Coffee's ready for nuvolari!05:41
Kiloshi jrgns 05:55
jrgnshey Kilos06:04
jrgnswarm yet?06:04
Kiloslol no its freezing here06:04
jrgnshehe, yup06:05
jrgnshttp://t.co/78NhjFWP06:06
Kilosdont wanna see more snow. it even snowed a bit in pretoria yesterday06:07
jrgnshehehe06:27
Kilostumbleweed, Ive lost how to get to #ibid cant you help please.06:30
Kilosclean installs without having a backup sucks06:30
Kiloscant/can06:30
nuvolarithanks Maaz_ 06:38
nuvolarimust be cold by now06:38
nuvolari:-/06:38
Kiloslol06:38
* bakuman needs coffee06:39
bakumanhi Kilos 06:39
bakumanand nuvolari :D06:40
Kiloshi bakuman 06:41
KilosMaaz_, coffee on06:41
* Maaz_ washes some mugs06:41
bakuman\o/06:41
Kilosmorning superfly 06:41
bakumanMaaz_, help06:41
Maaz_bakuman: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.06:41
Maaz_Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.06:41
bakumanMaaz_, help me with coffee06:42
Maaz_bakuman: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.06:42
superflymorning Kilos06:42
bakuman:(06:42
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:42
Kilosbakuman, once he is making just type maaz coffee please06:43
bakumanMaaz_, coffee please06:43
Maaz_bakuman: Yessir06:43
bakuman:D06:43
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos and bakuman!06:45
KilosMaaz_, ty06:45
Maaz_You are welcome Kilos06:45
bakumanMaaz_, ty06:45
Maaz_You are welcome bakuman06:45
* bakuman drinks too fast and burns himself06:45
bakumananyone here have some experience with python gui's?06:46
Kilosthe fly but he is a busy fella06:47
Kilospython master06:47
Kilosand the weed06:47
bakumanokay thanks 06:55
Kiloshi psydroid 07:07
drussellKilos: good thx, you?07:13
Kilosgood ty07:13
Kilosgetting used to unity slowly just the nm doesnt member to keep mobile broadband enable07:14
Kilosbusy with them bug peeps trying to sort it07:14
drussellKilos: cool, got a bug number I can follow?07:23
Kilosyeah sec ill find it07:23
Kilosdrussell, 103357907:25
charlvngood morning all07:26
charlvnMaaz_: coffee on07:26
* Maaz_ puts the kettle on07:26
Kiloshi charlvn 07:26
charlvngood morning Kilos, how's it going07:27
Kilosdrussell, the auto connect doesnt work and i have to enable broadband everytime07:27
Kilosgood ty charlvn got 12.04 going ok again07:27
Kilosand did a deja-dup to external07:28
Kilosactually a cool tool that07:28
Kilosfor me anyway07:28
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charlvn!07:30
charlvnMaaz_: thanks07:36
Maaz_charlvn: No problem07:36
charlvnMaaz_: botsnack07:36
Maaz_Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well07:36
charlvnKilos: that's good news, congrats!07:37
charlvnneed to do some work, bbl07:37
Kilosty07:37
Symmetriaheh07:56
Symmetriahas it stopped snowing in joburg?07:56
* Symmetria is rather worried about having to drive back to bloem on sunday in this weather07:57
Kilosdrussell, what did you do there , just got a mail i dont understand anyway08:08
Kiloschanged status?08:08
Kiloshi smile 08:09
smilehoi allemaal :p08:09
smile:)08:09
Kilosalmal08:09
smileKilos: het jy goed gedroom? ;)08:09
Kilos:)08:10
smile:p08:10
Kilosnee, droom maar min08:10
smileKilos: wat bedoel jy? :p08:11
Kiloswho knows how i get to that atrum channel here08:11
Kilosi dont dream much smile 08:11
smilemaybe /join #atrum ?08:11
smileKilos: ok :)08:11
Kilosno it was an irss something08:12
Kilosi lost the link to get there with clean installing08:12
smilehmm.. not on freenode?08:14
Kilosnope on atrum08:14
Kilosthem i think but not the link here to connect to08:15
Kiloshttp://search.mibbit.com/channels/Atrum/108:15
smileKilos: irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org08:16
smile:D08:16
smilethat's atrum :)08:18
Kilosyes ty08:20
smileyw :)08:20
Kiloshi SilverCode 08:26
SilverCodeHi08:26
Kilosyou new here08:27
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:27
SilverCodeyeah, was looking for something, stumbled across the website, thought I might as well join the IRC channel :)08:30
smileSilverCode: cool ;)08:31
smileplease stay :)08:31
KilosSilverCode, you an IT guy?08:31
Kilosusing what OS. i see you using quassel08:32
SilverCodeprogrammer actually. Do linux development08:38
SilverCoderunning Kubuntu08:38
Kilosgreat, make ubuntu-za a permanent fixture there08:39
Kiloswe have other kde guys here too08:39
SilverCodeironically the reason I found ubuntu-za was because I was looking for an "IT Guy" :)08:41
SilverCodeWill try. Often forget to set up the ssh tunnel to allow IRC access at work, so Quassel just gives up quietly in the background and I never think to correct the problem08:41
Kilosah08:42
Kilosdo you need help?08:42
Kilosif so state you prob as clearly as possible and one of the guys will help you as and when time allows08:43
KilosSilverCode, wb08:43
Kilosdo you need IT help?08:43
SilverCodesort of, I actually need a contractor or consulting company to set up our new servers08:48
SilverCodeand they seem to be a lot harder to find than one would think :)08:48
KilosSymmetria, ^^08:49
Kilossome of the guys here run their own servers 08:50
Kilosso you will get help and Symmetria does that kinda thing if im not mistaken08:51
Kiloshe is the networking bof here08:52
SilverCodeit isn't so much the help that is needed, more of a case of we don't have time to do it ourselves (anymore), and also lack the expertise08:52
SilverCodeand now that our old creaky, self maintained server has died, we thought "fuck it, lets just get someone in to do this for us"08:53
Kiloshe freelances i think08:54
KilosSymmetria, ping08:54
inetprococooncrash_: you and Maaz_ have a tail08:54
Kiloslo inetpro 08:54
inetprogood mornings08:54
SilverCodeawesome, thanks Kilos08:55
Kilosyw SilverCode 08:55
smileinetpro: have you got more than one morning? :D09:18
Kiloshehe he starts late and ends late09:19
smile9.909:19
smileEen tourniquet of draaideur is een samenstel van drie of vier deurbladen die aan een gezamenlijke verticale as zijn afgehangen en als geheel om deze as draaien. Aan weerskanten bevinden zich gebogen afscheidingen ook wel kuipen genoemd, die zo breed zijn, dat bij een vierbladig tourniquet steeds twee deurbladen tussen de afscheidingen blijven en zo de deuropening afsluiten.09:20
smile:)09:20
smileYou understand, Kilos ? :)09:20
Kilosna09:22
smileKilos: or too difficult :p09:23
Kilossomething to do with a swing door smile 09:24
smileyep :)09:24
Kilosi gonna have to reboot soonish. big upgrade going on here09:26
smileok :)09:28
smilewhich distro? :p09:28
Kilos12.0409:29
Kilosunity09:29
smileok :)09:30
smile^^09:30
smilehave to upgrade also09:31
Kilosyay looks like nothing broke10:03
bakuman\o/10:18
=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za
Trixar_zahttp://what-if.xkcd.com/6/11:15
Trixar_zaMy new favorite feature11:15
=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
Kiloscharlvn, banlam was it one of you that used to sahki thing to connect the modem13:23
Kilosor Trix[a]r_za 13:23
Kilosi cant see them logs from last night13:24
Kilosusb-modeswitch doesnt seem to be working here13:25
Kilosand wvdial is a massive job that is beyond my comprehension13:25
Kilosah it was sakis3g now who was using it??14:20
sakhiafternoon14:27
Kiloshi sakhi 14:27
SilverCode*sigh* I think all software bugs would be eliminated by the invention of a time machine15:00
SilverCodeProgrammers would be too scared of someone from the future coming back in time to stab them in the face for their poor implementation of things15:00
SilverCodewould make them pay more attention15:00
Kilosok who is the sakis3g user?15:33
Kilosek sukkel15:33
Kilosconnects to here and firefox works but no evolution mail or mxit on pidgin15:34
Kilosand where is the red green blue bubble that shows on/offline etc15:48
Kiloswhat am i missing15:48
KilosMaaz_, coffee on15:49
* Maaz_ flips the salt-timer15:49
KilosSilverCode, did Symmetria answer you?15:50
SilverCodeKilos: yeah, he did thanks. Gave me info for a company that does what we are looking for15:51
Kilosgreat i was offline sorting things15:51
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos!15:53
KilosMaaz_, danke15:54
Maaz_Bitteschön15:54
SilverCodeyou would think that after 4 years (?) of KDE4, there would be some more useful plasmoids15:55
Kilosthere might be. talk to inetpro and superfly 15:57
Kilosyou might wait a while they kinda busy guys15:57
Kilosnormally after 8pm they get to chat some here15:57
Kilossmile, ?16:04
smileyes? :p16:07
Kilosyou still alive?16:07
smileyep, why? :p16:07
Kilosso quiet16:07
smileOh I was helping someone who's now cooking dinner16:07
smile:p16:07
Kiloslol16:08
smile:)16:09
smilesome problems are arising in Belgium o.O16:12
smileNuclear buildings are leaking o.O16:13
Kerberoo16:14
smileDoel 3 and Tihange are leaking nuclear things :p16:14
smileTihange at least for 7 years (so, 2005)16:15
smileKerbero: ga jy die kernsentrale sluit? :p16:15
Kilosuh oh16:17
Kilosyo Kerbero 16:17
smileDoel 3 would stay open till 2022, but I think they have to change their mind :p16:17
Kilossmile if there are still people working there dont worry16:18
smileKilos: inside the building? maybe 2. :p16:18
smileDoel 3 is nearby, if it explodes we're all dead16:19
smile:p16:19
Kilosuse google maps or something to see if those walking around outside have anti nuke suits and masks on16:19
Kiloswill only exploded is it overheats16:20
Kilosi thin16:20
Kilosk16:20
Kilosyo Cantide 16:20
Cantidehello '-'16:20
smileKilos: you hope ;)16:20
smilestreetview is not so recent :p16:20
Kilosno16:21
KilosYOU hope16:21
smileyes I do :)16:21
smile^^16:21
Kilosget onto one of those satelites that see everything16:21
Kiloshi psydroid 16:21
smile"Since 2006, about 0.5 to 2 litres radioactive water leaks a day from the nuclear power plant"16:23
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CanNOTStudymuhuhahahaha16:23
=== CanNOTStudy is now known as Cantide
smile:o16:23
Cantide:o16:23
Cantidesmile, where is that? 'o'16:24
Kiloslol16:25
smilehttp://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerncentrale_Tihange , Cantide 16:25
smile:p16:25
CantideKilos, I finished work at 11:30 today and had to wait until 5 pm for my lift - luckily i had one of my study guides with me16:26
Cantideso yeah, i think i've done my studying for the week :p16:26
Kilosno man16:26
Kilosweek ends on saterday16:26
Cantideheh, there is no English page of that, smile :p16:27
CantideKilos, my week ends on Sunday :p16:27
Cantidetomorrow i'll do an assignment, and I'll probably have to work Sunday16:27
Kilosno sunday is the first day of the week16:27
Cantideerr, Saturday, I mean16:27
CantideSunday is the last >_>16:27
Kilosnope16:27
Cantideto each his own :p16:27
Kiloslol16:27
smileCantide: I translated it :p16:28
KilosMaaz_, google what day is the first day of the week16:28
Maaz_Kilos: "Sunday or Monday?" http://www.cjvlang.com/Dow/SunMon.html :: "What is the first day of the week and why, explain?" http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question85968.html :: "The Days of the Week" http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/days/ :: "Scriptures dealing with the first day of the week. | Christian ..." http://carm.org/religious-movements/seventh-day-adventism/scriptures-dealing-first-day-week :: "Names of the days of the week - Wikipedia, the…16:28
smileI hope you can understand a bit :)16:28
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cocooncrashMaaz_: change nick to Maaz16:30
=== Maaz_ is now known as Maaz
Maazcocooncrash: Changing nick to Maaz16:30
Kilosty cocooncrash 16:30
Cantidesmile, a little :)16:30
Kilosall good there?16:30
Cantidemy Afrikaans is rather useless as it is :-S16:30
psydroidhi Kilos16:30
psydroidhoi Cantide16:31
Cantidehello :)16:31
smilebye! :)16:31
Cantidebye bye :o16:31
psydroiddoei smile :)16:31
Kiloswho was here last night saying he used sakis3g?16:31
Kilosi have it working here but got somethings to add or sort or something16:32
Kilosand dunno how16:32
Kiloshe actually left a link but i cant scroll back after upgrading16:33
Kilosall gone somewhere16:33
Kilosdont all answer at once16:34
Kiloshehe16:34
CantideI can't remember, or i wasn't online .-.16:36
Kilosok next!16:37
charlvngood evening all16:39
Kiloshi charlvn 16:39
Kilosyou were here last night16:39
Kiloswho was here last night saying he used sakis3g?16:39
Cantideanyone else watching the ubuntu on air about quickly?16:39
charlvnhi Kilos 16:40
charlvnsakis3g? not me16:40
charlvni can check in the logs, hold on16:40
Kiloswho was it? scroll bnack for me please16:40
charlvnoh it was Trix[a]r_za 16:41
Kilosah ty very much16:41
charlvnnp16:41
KilosTrix[a]r_za, ping16:41
Kiloshope he sees that when he comes online16:42
Kiloscharlvn, did you see the link he put there16:44
Kiloswas his own version i think16:44
charlvnlemme check again16:47
charlvnKilos: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=594716:47
Kilosty charly16:47
charlvnnp16:47
charlvndinner brb16:48
magespawnEvening all17:05
Kiloshiya magespawn 17:17
magespawnHey Kilos17:18
zerefhmmmm, is anybody using the new nautils: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/linux-mint-fork-nautilus17:24
Kilosbrb switching to fone17:32
Kiloshi not_found 17:32
not_foundHey uncle Kilos 17:32
Cantidezeref, I might try it out when I'm running 12.1017:36
CantideI see they're planning to remove a LOT of functionality from Nautilus - most notably for me the tree view17:36
CantideThunar is quite fast, but I just don't like how it looks :-S17:36
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zerefyeah, and dual pane has been removed, but they are planning to bring it back17:43
zerefgnome is moving towards tablet-interface, are there any tablets that use gnome?17:44
magespawnNot that I know of.17:49
Cantidetablet interface just won't cut it for a desktop17:51
Cantideand i'll be forced to look elsewhere17:51
Cantidesad ,_,17:51
magespawnIs depends how they do it.17:53
magespawnYou could keep the old one.17:55
zerefbut then they will be doubling there work.17:56
zerefs/there/their17:56
Cantidei'm sure it'll get phased out17:56
Kilosif any of you see a joshuahoover come on here please chat to him if i miss him17:56
Kiloshe is from ubuntuone17:56
zerefi think i'll always choose laptop + desktop over tablet17:57
zerefs/+/and17:57
nuvolario/18:24
not_foundo/ nuvolari 18:25
nuvolarioh hi not_found 18:26
nuvolariare you doing well?18:26
not_foundalways :) and yourself nuvolari ?18:26
nuvolariI'm doing well thanks18:27
not_foundAwesome18:27
nuvolarilooking forward to tomorrow18:27
Kilosnuvolari, did you wash away18:27
nuvolaridon't know what I'm going to do in the middle of the week when I'm not at home18:27
Kilosthanks alot joshuahoover 18:28
nuvolariKilos: nee oom! ek is gelukkig18:28
Kiloswhere you going nuvolari 18:28
Kilosdis vrek koud hier18:28
nuvolariKilos: dis die ding oom, ek gaan n^ERENS18:28
nuvolariO.o18:28
nuvolarisorry18:29
nuvolariek gaan nêrens op die holiday nie18:29
Kilosnou wat praat jy dan ,, when I'm not at home18:29
nuvolarihmm...18:29
not_foundSnow looks awesome... some really pretty photos coming out of SA18:29
nuvolarihead thinking one thing, fingers doing their own18:29
Kilosyeah not_found but very cold stuff especially if the wind blows over it18:30
not_foundyup :)18:30
nuvolariwe have an early Christmas :P18:30
not_foundI suffered in Pretoria in 1997 when it snowed everywhere around Pretoria... sucked that winter18:30
Kilosall them ahabs will die at our temps18:30
not_found+118:30
Kilosbrb gotta swap my maverick drive with 10.04 on the 6g18:33
magespawnI am out of here, night all18:42
Kiloshmm18:53
zerefsuperfly19:05
superflyhi zeref19:09
zerefhiya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136728/19:11
zerefhaving trouble appending python path19:12
superflyzeref: you're doing it wrong19:24
superflyzeref: you need to specify the full path to the file\19:24
superflyand zeref, rather use PyQt4, Qt4 is a much more mature and well-architected GUI framework19:25
Kilosnight all sleep tight19:30
zerefok, just specified full path, still complains. I'm using qt4 for another project of mine :-)19:31
superflyzeref: are you trying to append the full path to sys.path, or are you specifying the whole path to the .ui file?19:33
superfly(or .glade file)19:34
zerefoption 119:36
superflyzeref: that's wrong\19:37
superflyyou need option 219:37
superflywhere did you get the idea to add the path to Python's path?19:37
superflywho says that the GTK modules are using the path to determine where the files are?19:38
zerefhttp://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/721281-howto-add-sub-directory-searchpath-namespace19:38
superflyzeref: that doesn't even talk about GTK, why did you think it would work there?19:38
superflya .glade file is not a .py file and Python doesn't know anything about them19:39
superflyzeref: to give you an idea of how much that guy actually knows, he calls r'...' strings "regular expression strings, when they're actually raw strings and have nothing to do with regular expressions (other than it is convenient to use them when specifying regular expressions)19:41
zerefi was looking for the format of how to do it 19:41
zerefahh found it19:47
bakumani'm trying to use wxPython at the moment for my gui19:50
superflybakuman: I've found Qt4 to be the most mature UI solution20:46
zerefhuuurrmmm22:01

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