[05:32] <Kilos> Cooold morning to you all
[05:32] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee on
[05:32]  * Maaz_ flips the salt-timer
[05:32] <Kilos> Maaz_, hot
[05:32] <Maaz_> Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!
[05:33] <Kilos> hiya drussell hows things
[05:35] <Kilos> Maaz_, fix your tail
[05:35] <Maaz_> Kilos: Excuse me?
[05:36] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:36] <Kilos> Maaz_, danke
[05:36] <Maaz_> Bitteschön
[05:37] <nuvolari> o/ morning oom Kilos 
[05:37] <nuvolari> Maaz_: coffee please
[05:37] <Maaz_> nuvolari: There isn't a pot on
[05:37] <nuvolari> Maaz_: coffee on
[05:37]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[05:37] <Kilos> lo nuvolari cold hey?
[05:37] <nuvolari> Maaz_: having a tail day?
[05:37] <Maaz_> nuvolari: *blink*
[05:37] <nuvolari> Kilos: ya oom!
[05:37] <nuvolari> here as well
[05:37] <nuvolari> raining cats and dogs
[05:37] <Kilos> hele N3 toe
[05:37] <Kilos> villiers tot mooi river
[05:38] <Kilos> wish we could get some rain. never seen this place so dry
[05:39] <nuvolari> joh
[05:39] <nuvolari> meh, got to go :-/
[05:39] <Kilos> klank werk!!!!
[05:40] <Kilos> moet in bios ac97 dooi
[05:41] <Kilos> nou het ek n deja-dup gedoen so worry nie meer om oor te instaleer nie
[05:41] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for nuvolari!
[05:55] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[06:04] <jrgns> hey Kilos
[06:04] <jrgns> warm yet?
[06:04] <Kilos> lol no its freezing here
[06:05] <jrgns> hehe, yup
[06:06] <jrgns> http://t.co/78NhjFWP
[06:07] <Kilos> dont wanna see more snow. it even snowed a bit in pretoria yesterday
[06:27] <jrgns> hehehe
[06:30] <Kilos> tumbleweed, Ive lost how to get to #ibid cant you help please.
[06:30] <Kilos> clean installs without having a backup sucks
[06:30] <Kilos> cant/can
[06:38] <nuvolari> thanks Maaz_ 
[06:38] <nuvolari> must be cold by now
[06:38] <nuvolari> :-/
[06:38] <Kilos> lol
[06:39]  * bakuman needs coffee
[06:39] <bakuman> hi Kilos 
[06:40] <bakuman> and nuvolari :D
[06:41] <Kilos> hi bakuman 
[06:41] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee on
[06:41]  * Maaz_ washes some mugs
[06:41] <bakuman> \o/
[06:41] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:41] <bakuman> Maaz_, help
[06:41] <Maaz_> bakuman: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[06:41] <Maaz_> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[06:42] <bakuman> Maaz_, help me with coffee
[06:42] <Maaz_> bakuman: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[06:42] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:42] <bakuman> :(
[06:42] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:43] <Kilos> bakuman, once he is making just type maaz coffee please
[06:43] <bakuman> Maaz_, coffee please
[06:43] <Maaz_> bakuman: Yessir
[06:43] <bakuman> :D
[06:45] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos and bakuman!
[06:45] <Kilos> Maaz_, ty
[06:45] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos
[06:45] <bakuman> Maaz_, ty
[06:45] <Maaz_> You are welcome bakuman
[06:45]  * bakuman drinks too fast and burns himself
[06:46] <bakuman> anyone here have some experience with python gui's?
[06:47] <Kilos> the fly but he is a busy fella
[06:47] <Kilos> python master
[06:47] <Kilos> and the weed
[06:55] <bakuman> okay thanks 
[07:07] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[07:13] <drussell> Kilos: good thx, you?
[07:13] <Kilos> good ty
[07:14] <Kilos> getting used to unity slowly just the nm doesnt member to keep mobile broadband enable
[07:14] <Kilos> busy with them bug peeps trying to sort it
[07:23] <drussell> Kilos: cool, got a bug number I can follow?
[07:23] <Kilos> yeah sec ill find it
[07:25] <Kilos> drussell, 1033579
[07:26] <charlvn> good morning all
[07:26] <charlvn> Maaz_: coffee on
[07:26]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[07:26] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[07:27] <charlvn> good morning Kilos, how's it going
[07:27] <Kilos> drussell, the auto connect doesnt work and i have to enable broadband everytime
[07:27] <Kilos> good ty charlvn got 12.04 going ok again
[07:28] <Kilos> and did a deja-dup to external
[07:28] <Kilos> actually a cool tool that
[07:28] <Kilos> for me anyway
[07:30] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[07:36] <charlvn> Maaz_: thanks
[07:36] <Maaz_> charlvn: No problem
[07:36] <charlvn> Maaz_: botsnack
[07:36] <Maaz_> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[07:37] <charlvn> Kilos: that's good news, congrats!
[07:37] <charlvn> need to do some work, bbl
[07:37] <Kilos> ty
[07:56] <Symmetria> heh
[07:56] <Symmetria> has it stopped snowing in joburg?
[07:57]  * Symmetria is rather worried about having to drive back to bloem on sunday in this weather
[08:08] <Kilos> drussell, what did you do there , just got a mail i dont understand anyway
[08:08] <Kilos> changed status?
[08:09] <Kilos> hi smile 
[08:09] <smile> hoi allemaal :p
[08:09] <smile> :)
[08:09] <Kilos> almal
[08:09] <smile> Kilos: het jy goed gedroom? ;)
[08:10] <Kilos> :)
[08:10] <smile> :p
[08:10] <Kilos> nee, droom maar min
[08:11] <smile> Kilos: wat bedoel jy? :p
[08:11] <Kilos> who knows how i get to that atrum channel here
[08:11] <Kilos> i dont dream much smile 
[08:11] <smile> maybe /join #atrum ?
[08:11] <smile> Kilos: ok :)
[08:12] <Kilos> no it was an irss something
[08:12] <Kilos> i lost the link to get there with clean installing
[08:14] <smile> hmm.. not on freenode?
[08:14] <Kilos> nope on atrum
[08:15] <Kilos> them i think but not the link here to connect to
[08:15] <Kilos> http://search.mibbit.com/channels/Atrum/1
[08:16] <smile> Kilos: irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[08:16] <smile> :D
[08:18] <smile> that's atrum :)
[08:20] <Kilos> yes ty
[08:20] <smile> yw :)
[08:26] <Kilos> hi SilverCode 
[08:26] <SilverCode> Hi
[08:27] <Kilos> you new here
[08:27] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:30] <SilverCode> yeah, was looking for something, stumbled across the website, thought I might as well join the IRC channel :)
[08:31] <smile> SilverCode: cool ;)
[08:31] <smile> please stay :)
[08:31] <Kilos> SilverCode, you an IT guy?
[08:32] <Kilos> using what OS. i see you using quassel
[08:38] <SilverCode> programmer actually. Do linux development
[08:38] <SilverCode> running Kubuntu
[08:39] <Kilos> great, make ubuntu-za a permanent fixture there
[08:39] <Kilos> we have other kde guys here too
[08:41] <SilverCode> ironically the reason I found ubuntu-za was because I was looking for an "IT Guy" :)
[08:41] <SilverCode> Will try. Often forget to set up the ssh tunnel to allow IRC access at work, so Quassel just gives up quietly in the background and I never think to correct the problem
[08:42] <Kilos> ah
[08:42] <Kilos> do you need help?
[08:43] <Kilos> if so state you prob as clearly as possible and one of the guys will help you as and when time allows
[08:43] <Kilos> SilverCode, wb
[08:43] <Kilos> do you need IT help?
[08:48] <SilverCode> sort of, I actually need a contractor or consulting company to set up our new servers
[08:48] <SilverCode> and they seem to be a lot harder to find than one would think :)
[08:49] <Kilos> Symmetria, ^^
[08:50] <Kilos> some of the guys here run their own servers 
[08:51] <Kilos> so you will get help and Symmetria does that kinda thing if im not mistaken
[08:52] <Kilos> he is the networking bof here
[08:52] <SilverCode> it isn't so much the help that is needed, more of a case of we don't have time to do it ourselves (anymore), and also lack the expertise
[08:53] <SilverCode> and now that our old creaky, self maintained server has died, we thought "fuck it, lets just get someone in to do this for us"
[08:54] <Kilos> he freelances i think
[08:54] <Kilos> Symmetria, ping
[08:54] <inetpro> cocooncrash_: you and Maaz_ have a tail
[08:54] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[08:54] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:55] <SilverCode> awesome, thanks Kilos
[08:55] <Kilos> yw SilverCode 
[09:18] <smile> inetpro: have you got more than one morning? :D
[09:19] <Kilos> hehe he starts late and ends late
[09:19] <smile> 9.9
[09:20] <smile> Een tourniquet of draaideur is een samenstel van drie of vier deurbladen die aan een gezamenlijke verticale as zijn afgehangen en als geheel om deze as draaien. Aan weerskanten bevinden zich gebogen afscheidingen ook wel kuipen genoemd, die zo breed zijn, dat bij een vierbladig tourniquet steeds twee deurbladen tussen de afscheidingen blijven en zo de deuropening afsluiten.
[09:20] <smile> :)
[09:20] <smile> You understand, Kilos ? :)
[09:22] <Kilos> na
[09:23] <smile> Kilos: or too difficult :p
[09:24] <Kilos> something to do with a swing door smile 
[09:24] <smile> yep :)
[09:26] <Kilos> i gonna have to reboot soonish. big upgrade going on here
[09:28] <smile> ok :)
[09:28] <smile> which distro? :p
[09:29] <Kilos> 12.04
[09:29] <Kilos> unity
[09:30] <smile> ok :)
[09:30] <smile> ^^
[09:31] <smile> have to upgrade also
[10:03] <Kilos> yay looks like nothing broke
[10:18] <bakuman> \o/
[11:15] <Trixar_za> http://what-if.xkcd.com/6/
[11:15] <Trixar_za> My new favorite feature
[13:23] <Kilos> charlvn, banlam was it one of you that used to sahki thing to connect the modem
[13:23] <Kilos> or Trix[a]r_za 
[13:24] <Kilos> i cant see them logs from last night
[13:25] <Kilos> usb-modeswitch doesnt seem to be working here
[13:25] <Kilos> and wvdial is a massive job that is beyond my comprehension
[14:20] <Kilos> ah it was sakis3g now who was using it??
[14:27] <sakhi> afternoon
[14:27] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[15:00] <SilverCode> *sigh* I think all software bugs would be eliminated by the invention of a time machine
[15:00] <SilverCode> Programmers would be too scared of someone from the future coming back in time to stab them in the face for their poor implementation of things
[15:00] <SilverCode> would make them pay more attention
[15:33] <Kilos> ok who is the sakis3g user?
[15:33] <Kilos> ek sukkel
[15:34] <Kilos> connects to here and firefox works but no evolution mail or mxit on pidgin
[15:48] <Kilos> and where is the red green blue bubble that shows on/offline etc
[15:48] <Kilos> what am i missing
[15:49] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee on
[15:49]  * Maaz_ flips the salt-timer
[15:50] <Kilos> SilverCode, did Symmetria answer you?
[15:51] <SilverCode> Kilos: yeah, he did thanks. Gave me info for a company that does what we are looking for
[15:51] <Kilos> great i was offline sorting things
[15:53] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:54] <Kilos> Maaz_, danke
[15:54] <Maaz_> Bitteschön
[15:55] <SilverCode> you would think that after 4 years (?) of KDE4, there would be some more useful plasmoids
[15:57] <Kilos> there might be. talk to inetpro and superfly 
[15:57] <Kilos> you might wait a while they kinda busy guys
[15:57] <Kilos> normally after 8pm they get to chat some here
[16:04] <Kilos> smile, ?
[16:07] <smile> yes? :p
[16:07] <Kilos> you still alive?
[16:07] <smile> yep, why? :p
[16:07] <Kilos> so quiet
[16:07] <smile> Oh I was helping someone who's now cooking dinner
[16:07] <smile> :p
[16:08] <Kilos> lol
[16:09] <smile> :)
[16:12] <smile> some problems are arising in Belgium o.O
[16:13] <smile> Nuclear buildings are leaking o.O
[16:14] <Kerbero> o
[16:14] <smile> Doel 3 and Tihange are leaking nuclear things :p
[16:15] <smile> Tihange at least for 7 years (so, 2005)
[16:15] <smile> Kerbero: ga jy die kernsentrale sluit? :p
[16:17] <Kilos> uh oh
[16:17] <Kilos> yo Kerbero 
[16:17] <smile> Doel 3 would stay open till 2022, but I think they have to change their mind :p
[16:18] <Kilos> smile if there are still people working there dont worry
[16:18] <smile> Kilos: inside the building? maybe 2. :p
[16:19] <smile> Doel 3 is nearby, if it explodes we're all dead
[16:19] <smile> :p
[16:19] <Kilos> use google maps or something to see if those walking around outside have anti nuke suits and masks on
[16:20] <Kilos> will only exploded is it overheats
[16:20] <Kilos> i thin
[16:20] <Kilos> k
[16:20] <Kilos> yo Cantide 
[16:20] <Cantide> hello '-'
[16:20] <smile> Kilos: you hope ;)
[16:20] <smile> streetview is not so recent :p
[16:21] <Kilos> no
[16:21] <Kilos> YOU hope
[16:21] <smile> yes I do :)
[16:21] <smile> ^^
[16:21] <Kilos> get onto one of those satelites that see everything
[16:21] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[16:23] <smile> "Since 2006, about 0.5 to 2 litres radioactive water leaks a day from the nuclear power plant"
[16:23] <CanNOTStudy> muhuhahahaha
[16:23] <smile> :o
[16:23] <Cantide> :o
[16:24] <Cantide> smile, where is that? 'o'
[16:25] <Kilos> lol
[16:25] <smile> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerncentrale_Tihange , Cantide 
[16:25] <smile> :p
[16:26] <Cantide> Kilos, I finished work at 11:30 today and had to wait until 5 pm for my lift - luckily i had one of my study guides with me
[16:26] <Cantide> so yeah, i think i've done my studying for the week :p
[16:26] <Kilos> no man
[16:26] <Kilos> week ends on saterday
[16:27] <Cantide> heh, there is no English page of that, smile :p
[16:27] <Cantide> Kilos, my week ends on Sunday :p
[16:27] <Cantide> tomorrow i'll do an assignment, and I'll probably have to work Sunday
[16:27] <Kilos> no sunday is the first day of the week
[16:27] <Cantide> err, Saturday, I mean
[16:27] <Cantide> Sunday is the last >_>
[16:27] <Kilos> nope
[16:27] <Cantide> to each his own :p
[16:27] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <smile> Cantide: I translated it :p
[16:28] <Kilos> Maaz_, google what day is the first day of the week
[16:28] <Maaz_> Kilos: "Sunday or Monday?" http://www.cjvlang.com/Dow/SunMon.html :: "What is the first day of the week and why, explain?" http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question85968.html :: "The Days of the Week" http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/days/ :: "Scriptures dealing with the first day of the week. | Christian ..." http://carm.org/religious-movements/seventh-day-adventism/scriptures-dealing-first-day-week :: "Names of the days of the week - Wikipedia, the…
[16:28] <smile> I hope you can understand a bit :)
[16:30] <cocooncrash> Maaz_: change nick to Maaz
[16:30] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Changing nick to Maaz
[16:30] <Kilos> ty cocooncrash 
[16:30] <Cantide> smile, a little :)
[16:30] <Kilos> all good there?
[16:30] <Cantide> my Afrikaans is rather useless as it is :-S
[16:30] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[16:31] <psydroid> hoi Cantide
[16:31] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:31] <smile> bye! :)
[16:31] <Cantide> bye bye :o
[16:31] <psydroid> doei smile :)
[16:31] <Kilos> who was here last night saying he used sakis3g?
[16:32] <Kilos> i have it working here but got somethings to add or sort or something
[16:32] <Kilos> and dunno how
[16:33] <Kilos> he actually left a link but i cant scroll back after upgrading
[16:33] <Kilos> all gone somewhere
[16:34] <Kilos> dont all answer at once
[16:34] <Kilos> hehe
[16:36] <Cantide> I can't remember, or i wasn't online .-.
[16:37] <Kilos> ok next!
[16:39] <charlvn> good evening all
[16:39] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[16:39] <Kilos> you were here last night
[16:39] <Kilos> who was here last night saying he used sakis3g?
[16:39] <Cantide> anyone else watching the ubuntu on air about quickly?
[16:40] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[16:40] <charlvn> sakis3g? not me
[16:40] <charlvn> i can check in the logs, hold on
[16:40] <Kilos> who was it? scroll bnack for me please
[16:41] <charlvn> oh it was Trix[a]r_za 
[16:41] <Kilos> ah ty very much
[16:41] <charlvn> np
[16:41] <Kilos> Trix[a]r_za, ping
[16:42] <Kilos> hope he sees that when he comes online
[16:44] <Kilos> charlvn, did you see the link he put there
[16:44] <Kilos> was his own version i think
[16:47] <charlvn> lemme check again
[16:47] <charlvn> Kilos: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=5947
[16:47] <Kilos> ty charly
[16:47] <charlvn> np
[16:48] <charlvn> dinner brb
[17:05] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:17] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[17:18] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[17:24] <zeref> hmmmm, is anybody using the new nautils: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/linux-mint-fork-nautilus
[17:32] <Kilos> brb switching to fone
[17:32] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[17:32] <not_found> Hey uncle Kilos 
[17:36] <Cantide> zeref, I might try it out when I'm running 12.10
[17:36] <Cantide> I see they're planning to remove a LOT of functionality from Nautilus - most notably for me the tree view
[17:36] <Cantide> Thunar is quite fast, but I just don't like how it looks :-S
[17:43] <zeref> yeah, and dual pane has been removed, but they are planning to bring it back
[17:44] <zeref> gnome is moving towards tablet-interface, are there any tablets that use gnome?
[17:49] <magespawn> Not that I know of.
[17:51] <Cantide> tablet interface just won't cut it for a desktop
[17:51] <Cantide> and i'll be forced to look elsewhere
[17:51] <Cantide> sad ,_,
[17:53] <magespawn> Is depends how they do it.
[17:55] <magespawn> You could keep the old one.
[17:56] <zeref> but then they will be doubling there work.
[17:56] <zeref> s/there/their
[17:56] <Cantide> i'm sure it'll get phased out
[17:56] <Kilos> if any of you see a joshuahoover come on here please chat to him if i miss him
[17:56] <Kilos> he is from ubuntuone
[17:57] <zeref> i think i'll always choose laptop + desktop over tablet
[17:57] <zeref> s/+/and
[18:24] <nuvolari> o/
[18:25] <not_found> o/ nuvolari 
[18:26] <nuvolari> oh hi not_found 
[18:26] <nuvolari> are you doing well?
[18:26] <not_found> always :) and yourself nuvolari ?
[18:27] <nuvolari> I'm doing well thanks
[18:27] <not_found> Awesome
[18:27] <nuvolari> looking forward to tomorrow
[18:27] <Kilos> nuvolari, did you wash away
[18:27] <nuvolari> don't know what I'm going to do in the middle of the week when I'm not at home
[18:28] <Kilos> thanks alot joshuahoover 
[18:28] <nuvolari> Kilos: nee oom! ek is gelukkig
[18:28] <Kilos> where you going nuvolari 
[18:28] <Kilos> dis vrek koud hier
[18:28] <nuvolari> Kilos: dis die ding oom, ek gaan n^ERENS
[18:28] <nuvolari> O.o
[18:29] <nuvolari> sorry
[18:29] <nuvolari> ek gaan nêrens op die holiday nie
[18:29] <Kilos> nou wat praat jy dan ,, when I'm not at home
[18:29] <nuvolari> hmm...
[18:29] <not_found> Snow looks awesome... some really pretty photos coming out of SA
[18:29] <nuvolari> head thinking one thing, fingers doing their own
[18:30] <Kilos> yeah not_found but very cold stuff especially if the wind blows over it
[18:30] <not_found> yup :)
[18:30] <nuvolari> we have an early Christmas :P
[18:30] <not_found> I suffered in Pretoria in 1997 when it snowed everywhere around Pretoria... sucked that winter
[18:30] <Kilos> all them ahabs will die at our temps
[18:30] <not_found> +1
[18:33] <Kilos> brb gotta swap my maverick drive with 10.04 on the 6g
[18:42] <magespawn> I am out of here, night all
[18:53] <Kilos> hmm
[19:05] <zeref> superfly
[19:09] <superfly> hi zeref
[19:11] <zeref> hiya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136728/
[19:12] <zeref> having trouble appending python path
[19:24] <superfly> zeref: you're doing it wrong
[19:24] <superfly> zeref: you need to specify the full path to the file\
[19:25] <superfly> and zeref, rather use PyQt4, Qt4 is a much more mature and well-architected GUI framework
[19:30] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:31] <zeref> ok, just specified full path, still complains. I'm using qt4 for another project of mine :-)
[19:33] <superfly> zeref: are you trying to append the full path to sys.path, or are you specifying the whole path to the .ui file?
[19:34] <superfly> (or .glade file)
[19:36] <zeref> option 1
[19:37] <superfly> zeref: that's wrong\
[19:37] <superfly> you need option 2
[19:37] <superfly> where did you get the idea to add the path to Python's path?
[19:38] <superfly> who says that the GTK modules are using the path to determine where the files are?
[19:38] <zeref> http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/721281-howto-add-sub-directory-searchpath-namespace
[19:38] <superfly> zeref: that doesn't even talk about GTK, why did you think it would work there?
[19:39] <superfly> a .glade file is not a .py file and Python doesn't know anything about them
[19:41] <superfly> zeref: to give you an idea of how much that guy actually knows, he calls r'...' strings "regular expression strings, when they're actually raw strings and have nothing to do with regular expressions (other than it is convenient to use them when specifying regular expressions)
[19:41] <zeref> i was looking for the format of how to do it 
[19:47] <zeref> ahh found it
[19:50] <bakuman> i'm trying to use wxPython at the moment for my gui
[20:46] <superfly> bakuman: I've found Qt4 to be the most mature UI solution
[22:01] <zeref> huuurrmmm