[15:21] <mips1911> anyone here working on 4.10?
[15:38] <bluesabre> By "working on", do you mean developing or using?
[15:39] <mips1911> bluesabre, no worries I sorted my problem out thanks. Somehow two apps loaded by default after login even though i had save session on logout disabled. I deleted the .caches/session files and all is well now.
[15:40] <mips1911> bluesabre, are you a dev?
[15:40] <bluesabre> Not really a dev, more of a tester
[15:41] <mips1911> ok, actually had a unrelated query for one the devs as well wrt to default font rending in xubuntu
[15:42] <bluesabre> Yup, can't help you there.  :D
[15:42] <mips1911> maybe I should just log a ticket in launchpad
[15:43] <mips1911> bluesabre, are you happy with your fonts in xubuntu?
[15:43] <bluesabre> Yeah, I've no problem with them.  Everything is nice and crisp.
[15:44] <mips1911> you can make them better. The dafault font rendering is not the same as that of ubuntu.
[15:44] <bluesabre> The fonts actually look better than Ubuntu on my laptop
[15:45] <bluesabre> I guess I'm lucky
[15:45] <bluesabre> lol
[15:45] <mips1911> try this, you could always remove it afterwards:  xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Xft/Lcdfilter -n -t string -s lcddefault
[15:46] <bluesabre> k, brb
[15:46] <mips1911> xubuntu does not even specify that option and it makes a BIG difference
[15:49] <bluesabre> Don't really see much of a difference
[15:50] <mips1911> are you using the default xubuntu font setup?
[15:51] <mips1911> what output do you get for xrdb -query
[15:52] <mips1911> paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:57] <bluesabre> According the xfconf-editor the default is lcddefault
[15:57] <mips1911> this is what my setup looks like and it's copied from ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136374/
[15:57] <mips1911> screenshot of font config, http://ompldr.org/vZjE3OQ/fonts.png
[15:58] <mips1911> brb, just wanna check this in a vm with standard xubuntu install
[15:59] <bluesabre> I find that fonts look better with "Slight" hinting
[16:04] <knome> probably depends on the monitor and font too :)
[16:04] <bluesabre> True
[16:04] <bluesabre> In that case, thanks Devs for creating the perfect setup for my laptop
[16:05] <knome> :)
[16:05] <knome> just good luck... ;)
[16:05] <bluesabre> btw, ochosi should be back online soon, right?
[16:05] <knome> umm, just before FF
[16:06] <knome> so maybe 20th or so
[16:06] <bluesabre> I think the new parole is done (there's a few remaining bugs that are a pain) and catfish is also done
[16:06] <knome> mm-hmm
[16:06] <knome> great
[16:41] <Pjotr> Hello, I've found a bug in Xubuntu, which only happens when you install LibreOffice in Xubuntu.
[16:41] <pleia2> bug #?
[16:41] <Pjotr> The default path for storing documents, does not take into account the localization of Xubuntu. The name "Documents" is not changed in accordance with the localization of the system.
[16:41] <Pjotr> So the path is always (e.g.) "/home/pjotr/Documents", whereas it should be (in my Dutch localized system) "/home/pjotr/Documenten".
[16:42] <knome> actually, it's stupid that LO expects you to have any dir in your home
[16:42] <Pjotr> This causes the documents to be stored in the main user folder, in my case /home/pjotr.
[16:42] <Pjotr> Against which package should I file a bug report on Launchpad?
[16:47] <Pjotr> Against LibreOffice or against some package that takes care of localization in general?
[17:03] <knome> LO
[17:18] <micahg> Pjotr: do you have the LO language pack installeD?
[17:20] <Pjotr> yes, LO is entirely localized for the rest.
[17:50] <Pjotr> I have filed a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1034521
[17:50] <Pjotr> Feel free to endorse it. :-)
[17:51] <Pjotr> knome: will this do?
[17:51] <Pjotr> micahg: can you help?
[18:00] <micahg> Pjotr: do you have libreoffice-l10n-nl installed?
[18:03] <Pjotr> micahg: yes
[18:06] <micahg> no idea then
[18:08] <Pjotr> it's not a big issue, but surely some simple config file of LO is involved, which should be easy to change?
[18:09] <micahg> might not be so simple, LO is ~12M LoC
[18:09] <Pjotr> it's easy to change by hand, in the preferences of LO....
[18:13] <Pjotr> Oh well, it's not an big issue anyway. So not much is at stake. :-)
[18:16]  * micahg wishes people wouldn't disappear like that
[18:21] <knome> yeah, me too
[18:21] <knome> isn't really helpful to come tell something isn't working, and then disappear
[18:33]  * micahg was going to suggest adding his "fix" to the bug
[19:28] <pleia2> phasing out? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/XFCE-Makes-Mint-Even-Fresher-75842.html
[19:30]  * micahg would ask for sources
[19:31] <pleia2> yeah, leaving a comment now
[19:31] <drc> Sources? Sources? We doan need no stinkin' sources!
[19:33] <drc> Sources are the last resort of the journalisticly incompetent.
[19:34] <knome> lolwut
[19:35] <pleia2> of course comments are moderated :)
[19:37] <knome> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/233285874123673600
[19:40] <pleia2> knome: can we put a link to our news archives on the front of xubuntu.org?
[19:40] <pleia2> xubuntu.org/archive/ exists, but I don't think we link to it anywhere
[19:41] <knome> hmm. i thought it was on the "further information" column
[19:41] <knome> yeah, we can add that
[19:41] <pleia2> ok, I'll add it to that column
[19:42] <knome> ok, thanks
[19:44] <knome> i wonder what my ubuntu SSO password is
[19:45] <Unit193> Launchpad one.
[19:45] <knome> yes. but what that is
[19:47] <knome> most probably not 'sausage'
[19:47] <Unit193> Look at the textfile on your desktop named "passwords-and-things"
[19:48] <knome> :P
[19:48] <knome> file not found
[19:48] <knome> äesch
[19:48] <knome> no ssh server installed on desktop?
[19:48] <knome> sucks
[19:48] <knome> :)
[19:48] <micahg> no, not by default
[19:49] <micahg> no open ports by default
[19:49] <Unit193> It is here for me, one of the things I have to setup (disable pass, force key...)
[19:49] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Policies#No_Open_Ports
[19:51] <knome> micahg, no, i just thought i had set that up
[20:52] <bluesabre> Hello everyone, please test the latest master for parole.  At this point, I think its ready for release.  http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/
[20:52] <bluesabre> I think it requires 4.10 to build
[20:59] <micahg> seems to only need 4.8 still
[20:59] <micahg> m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.7.0])
[20:59] <micahg> m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.6.0])