[15:21] anyone here working on 4.10? [15:38] By "working on", do you mean developing or using? [15:39] bluesabre, no worries I sorted my problem out thanks. Somehow two apps loaded by default after login even though i had save session on logout disabled. I deleted the .caches/session files and all is well now. [15:40] bluesabre, are you a dev? [15:40] Not really a dev, more of a tester [15:41] ok, actually had a unrelated query for one the devs as well wrt to default font rending in xubuntu [15:42] Yup, can't help you there. :D [15:42] maybe I should just log a ticket in launchpad [15:43] bluesabre, are you happy with your fonts in xubuntu? [15:43] Yeah, I've no problem with them. Everything is nice and crisp. [15:44] you can make them better. The dafault font rendering is not the same as that of ubuntu. [15:44] The fonts actually look better than Ubuntu on my laptop [15:45] I guess I'm lucky [15:45] lol [15:45] try this, you could always remove it afterwards: xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Xft/Lcdfilter -n -t string -s lcddefault [15:46] k, brb [15:46] xubuntu does not even specify that option and it makes a BIG difference [15:49] Don't really see much of a difference [15:50] are you using the default xubuntu font setup? [15:51] what output do you get for xrdb -query [15:52] paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [15:57] According the xfconf-editor the default is lcddefault [15:57] this is what my setup looks like and it's copied from ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136374/ [15:57] screenshot of font config, http://ompldr.org/vZjE3OQ/fonts.png [15:58] brb, just wanna check this in a vm with standard xubuntu install [15:59] I find that fonts look better with "Slight" hinting [16:04] probably depends on the monitor and font too :) [16:04] True [16:04] In that case, thanks Devs for creating the perfect setup for my laptop [16:05] :) [16:05] just good luck... ;) [16:05] btw, ochosi should be back online soon, right? [16:05] umm, just before FF [16:06] so maybe 20th or so [16:06] I think the new parole is done (there's a few remaining bugs that are a pain) and catfish is also done [16:06] mm-hmm [16:06] great [16:41] Hello, I've found a bug in Xubuntu, which only happens when you install LibreOffice in Xubuntu. [16:41] bug #? [16:41] The default path for storing documents, does not take into account the localization of Xubuntu. The name "Documents" is not changed in accordance with the localization of the system. [16:41] So the path is always (e.g.) "/home/pjotr/Documents", whereas it should be (in my Dutch localized system) "/home/pjotr/Documenten". [16:42] actually, it's stupid that LO expects you to have any dir in your home [16:42] This causes the documents to be stored in the main user folder, in my case /home/pjotr. [16:42] Against which package should I file a bug report on Launchpad? [16:47] Against LibreOffice or against some package that takes care of localization in general? [17:03] LO [17:18] Pjotr: do you have the LO language pack installeD? [17:20] yes, LO is entirely localized for the rest. [17:50] I have filed a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1034521 [17:50] Launchpad bug 1034521 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice in Xubuntu: the default file path for storing documents, does not take into account the localization of the system" [Undecided,New] [17:50] Feel free to endorse it. :-) [17:51] knome: will this do? [17:51] micahg: can you help? [18:00] Pjotr: do you have libreoffice-l10n-nl installed? [18:03] micahg: yes [18:06] no idea then [18:08] it's not a big issue, but surely some simple config file of LO is involved, which should be easy to change? [18:09] might not be so simple, LO is ~12M LoC [18:09] it's easy to change by hand, in the preferences of LO.... [18:13] Oh well, it's not an big issue anyway. So not much is at stake. :-) [18:16] * micahg wishes people wouldn't disappear like that [18:21] yeah, me too [18:21] isn't really helpful to come tell something isn't working, and then disappear [18:33] * micahg was going to suggest adding his "fix" to the bug [19:28] phasing out? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/XFCE-Makes-Mint-Even-Fresher-75842.html [19:30] * micahg would ask for sources [19:31] yeah, leaving a comment now [19:31] Sources? Sources? We doan need no stinkin' sources! [19:33] Sources are the last resort of the journalisticly incompetent. [19:34] lolwut [19:35] of course comments are moderated :) [19:37] https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/233285874123673600 [19:40] knome: can we put a link to our news archives on the front of xubuntu.org? [19:40] xubuntu.org/archive/ exists, but I don't think we link to it anywhere [19:41] hmm. i thought it was on the "further information" column [19:41] yeah, we can add that [19:41] ok, I'll add it to that column [19:42] ok, thanks [19:44] i wonder what my ubuntu SSO password is [19:45] Launchpad one. [19:45] yes. but what that is [19:47] most probably not 'sausage' [19:47] Look at the textfile on your desktop named "passwords-and-things" [19:48] :P [19:48] file not found [19:48] äesch [19:48] no ssh server installed on desktop? [19:48] sucks [19:48] :) [19:48] no, not by default [19:49] no open ports by default [19:49] It is here for me, one of the things I have to setup (disable pass, force key...) [19:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Policies#No_Open_Ports [19:51] micahg, no, i just thought i had set that up [20:52] Hello everyone, please test the latest master for parole. At this point, I think its ready for release. http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/ [20:52] I think it requires 4.10 to build [20:59] seems to only need 4.8 still [20:59] m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.7.0]) [20:59] m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.6.0])