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aganabegrub isnt support my monitor freq00:18
aganabegrub isnt shown00:18
aganabehow can i fix it00:18
kanliotaganabe, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179034200:30
aganabethx00:32
aganabekanliot thx00:32
wallnutsDoes anybody know how to enable a shell on tty8 I'd like to start a new xsession for another user account01:24
aslanpayihow can i use lubuntu on usb memory. not live, portable.01:54
kanliotyou want a persistent system entirely on the usb, or you want to install to usb?01:55
aslanpayiinstall01:55
aslanpayibut i can use it every pc01:56
kanliotjust go through the installer, but install to the usb01:56
aslanpayiwhen i do this can i use lubuntu another computer01:57
kanlioti really donno01:57
aslanpayiok01:57
aslanpayithx01:57
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aslanpayican another person help me?02:05
aslanpayiis it support ?? omg02:05
kanliotyou  should wait, might take a while02:06
kanliotor ask in #ubuntu02:06
aslanpayiok02:06
aslanpayithx02:06
amh345are any of you running serviio media server?   im trying to get things functioning in this lubuntu install.  but no dice thus far.02:19
amh345for example.  when i open the program.  the serviio icon doesnt show up in what i think is lubuntu's taskbar02:19
amh345and there be no java either02:34
amh345nor can i even find he package02:34
amh345nothing works02:34
pollard777Hola, alquien habla español?04:14
Unit193!es04:16
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pollard777Muchas gracias, muy amables.04:23
Unit193Have a good one.04:24
kanliotis there a list of ubbottu commands?04:26
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unless_Hello guys!11:11
unless_I am trying to use make command and it reports there is no cc installed, how do I install it?11:12
unless_Hey guys, how do I set desktop icon size?11:22
Fatbonjour11:54
bioterrorgodag11:55
bioterror+d ;)11:55
unless_hello!12:05
unless_how do I set a different fileBrowser other then the default?12:05
bioterrorfrom pcmanfm to what?12:06
bioterrorpcmanfm for example handles the desktop of lubuntu12:06
unless_I was thinking on Thunar. I already installed it but don't know how to set it as default. If possible.12:08
bioterrorwhy you're not just installing xubuntu then?12:11
unless_well, I am quite a newbie and I just left Ubuntu because I didn't like the last version changes.12:12
bioterroryou dont seem to like pcmanfm either :(12:13
unless_I am really in love with Lubuntu except that the default file manager doesn't follow along the system menu font or system font size.12:13
unless_But pcmanfm is not the OS, it just a crap file manager.12:14
unless_Hoep you are not part of the team :P12:14
bioterrorpcmanfm is crap becouse you cant change font size?-)12:15
lamogoLubuntu is designed to be lightweight.12:15
lamogoYou can't go and buy a compact car and complain it doesn't haul your yacht.12:16
bioterrorremove all the graphics stuff, install just plain openbox and add what ever you want12:16
lamogoIf you use something for what it was meant for you'll always be happy with it.12:17
unless_well, for a visual operational system environment with is basically made to control files and etc, if you can't set s font accordingly which what you like it is very bad. What would be the main purpose of a File Manager on a visual file system other that be very friendly which user wishes?12:17
bioterrorpcmanfm sniffs fronts from the lxappearance12:18
bioterrorall the titlebars has font configs in obconf12:18
bioterrorfonts even12:18
unless_yes12:18
unless_other than that I am not complaining it is over simplified, I like it having in mind my system will be light.12:19
bioterrorpcmanfm:12:19
bioterrorDownload Size  : 137,98 KiB12:19
bioterrorInstalled Size : 1272,00 KiB12:19
bioterrorthunar:Download Size  : 906,77 KiB12:19
bioterrorInstalled Size : 5156,00 KiB12:19
bioterror\o/12:20
* lamogo laughs12:20
unless_yes, thunar does lots more than file managing. unfortunately.12:20
bioterrorwith GPRS connection it makes differences!12:20
lamogoHonestly /unless_  it is the Linux world that allows so much freedom.12:21
bioterrorunless_, so tell us which font size you cant change in pcmanfm?12:21
unless_bioterror, same I've set on my hole system, 912:21
bioterrorlamogo, there's other shells for windows too instead of explorer.exe12:21
lamogoI know, I encourage his freedom and to experiment with all that Linux and FOSS has to offer12:22
unless_how do I remove a application ?12:23
bioterror!apt | unless_12:23
ubottuunless_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)12:23
unless_thank you a lot bioterror! :o)12:30
bioterrorapt is a lot more powerful from the command line than synaptic is12:36
bioterrorwith a properly configured shell it's quite easy12:36
unless_I have named my .vimrc mistaked as .rcvim, how can I use cp command to rename it, I am currently using cp ./.rcvim ./.vimrc but it throws cp: cannot stat `./.rcvim': No such file or directory12:41
bioterrorno cp12:41
bioterroryou use mv12:41
unless_ohcibi, ok12:41
unless_bioterror, still, same problem :P12:42
bioterror?12:42
unless_mv: cannot stat `.rcvim': No such file or directory12:42
unless_ohcibi, ok I figured, wrong dir.12:43
unless_thank you!12:43
bioterror:D12:43
bioterrordid you make yourself a good vimrc?12:43
unless_bioterror, hahaha... yes12:46
trevjsWhat would be a good channel to ask postfix on ubuntu questions?13:45
trevjsAfter installing postfix using apt-get and configuring with dpkg I can't connect to it with "telnet localhost 25" does anybody know why this would be?14:09
kanliottrevjs, did you config /opt/smtp-tunnel?15:08
trevjsI had been playing around with sasl and once I deleted those lines from main.cf and restarted it worked15:46
trevjsoh, yeah I got it fixed, never said anything.  thx though15:47
kanliotnp15:48
TadekmocarHI17:52
Tadekmocarwhat gui use lubuntu17:52
Tadekmocaris using*17:52
bioterrorOpenbox + lxde components on top of it17:53
Tadekmocarhmm if i install lxde on top of ubuntu 11.10 unity   i wont get lubuntu ?17:53
bioterror!purelxde17:53
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »17:53
Tadekmocarok thanks17:54
Tadekmocardo i need to install openbox ? oir just lxde17:54
bioterrorsudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop17:56
bioterrorafter you have logged into your lubuntu installation, you run that pure lxde stuff to remove gnome stuff17:57
bioterroror you can keep both17:57
Tadekmocarthe problem is i already input "install lxde"17:58
Tadekmocarand install is in progress17:58
bioterrornot a problem17:58
Tadekmocarit takes long, seems it is much megabytes18:00
bioterrornot really18:01
Tadekmocari do hope lubuntu will run faster than unity18:01
holsteinyou hope LXDE will run faster than unity18:02
holsteinand lubuntu will run faster than ubuntu... they are the same underneath, but i would expect LXDE to be lighter18:02
Tadekmocarbut anyway im installing it for other reason - unity looks like some toy for 4year old kid, and like it was designed to run facebook and utube18:04
Tadekmocarthe icons/butoons/text is very big and blurry18:04
holsteini dont use unity, but im ok with it now that its faster, and stable18:04
holsteinlooks great.. clean and simple... coming along nicely18:04
holsteinnot for me though18:04
bioterrorunity is a lot more complicated than gnome 3 shell18:05
Tadekmocaroh, and, does lubuntu allow to disable blur ? its one of most frustating things  i hate in linux18:05
Tadekmocarbut it looks like made for kid18:05
bioterrorblur is an awesome band18:05
holsteinTadekmocar: i would look at your graphics driver and resolution18:05
Tadekmocarresolution is 1152x86418:05
Tadekmocarbefore was using 1024x76818:05
bioterror1152 is a horrible resolution18:06
Tadekmocaron windows text look nice and sharp but on linux is very blurred18:06
bioterrortext is always on linux blurred18:06
holsteinTadekmocar: i would look for what the default resolution is18:06
bioterrorthat's becouse linux has a crappy antialiasing on fonts18:06
Tadekmocari hate antialiasing18:07
Tadekmocarand my resolution is ok.. i see very much on windows18:07
Tadekmocarbut the fonts are small and buttons too18:08
holsteinTadekmocar: windoes has a different driver though... and if the manufacturer will supply you a linux driver, you can compare the 2.. otherwise, its not really constructive to compare18:08
Tadekmocarits not driver issue, its problem with fonts/antialiasing18:09
Tadekmocari can see when i do a print screen and zoom in18:09
holsteinTadekmocar: cool... enjoy then.. i usually have luck trying different drivers in native resolution... if you havent tried it, it literally wont hurt18:09
holsteini have no "blurry-ness" that bothers me18:10
Tadekmocarmaybe u have HD resolution ?18:10
Tadekmocarwhat is yours18:10
holsteinTadekmocar: i would have stated so... i had fuzzy graphics .. on several machines... an old nvidia and a VIA chip18:11
holsteinTadekmocar: and others.. but i dont recall.. i always found a tolerable setting going through a troubleshooting process18:11
Tadekmocarbtw. why is the lubuntu installer downloading chromium browser?18:13
Tadekmocarits full of spyware18:13
holsteinTadekmocar: its in the official repos, and doesnt contain any "spyware"18:13
Tadekmocarits made by google18:13
holsteinyou might be implying that chrome does, though it doesnt either..18:13
holsteinchromium is not "made by google".. it is the opensource version18:14
Tadekmocarhow you know ?18:14
Tadekmocarmaybe.. but opensource!=spyware free18:14
bioterror:D18:14
holsteinTadekmocar: in the ubuntu repos is pretty secure.. you cant just stick packages in there18:14
holsteinthere are rules and regulations... and signatures.. and commities... and communities18:15
holsteinTadekmocar: check it out for yourself.. you can always purge chromium18:15
holsteinTadekmocar: nothing in lubuntu or ubuntu is hiding from you.. source is avaiable, and you can remove *anything*18:15
holsteinTadekmocar: look for yourself.... trust no one18:15
holsteinTadekmocar: i know, but cause i trust the ubuntu MOTU's and package maintainers18:16
Tadekmocarthe thing is nobody can read and check all of the code.. checking one program would take month.. and the source might look clear, backdoors etc. are make that look like normal useful source18:16
Tadekmocari trust nobody18:17
holsteinTadekmocar: cool.. you can check it for yourself though, or remove it, and use whatever browser you like18:17
holsteinOR, no browser... or your own custom one18:17
Tadekmocari will change it to other browser18:18
holsteinTadekmocar: its all open, so you are free to do what you like.. and thats about as good as it can get.. theres no one who can "do it for you" that you will trust18:18
holsteini would consider linux from scratch18:18
holsteinhttp://imagebin.org/223948 is an example of the non-fuzz that i enjoy at native screen res18:18
Tadekmocaroh i see what u mean by native screen res18:19
Tadekmocarbut i dont have native res..18:19
Tadekmocarim using 17" crt18:19
Tadekmocarany resolution is valid18:19
holsteinTadekmocar: the screen and card will have a "native" res18:19
holsteinTadekmocar: all are valid, sure, but one will be "native"18:20
Tadekmocarno.. man, only LCD have native res18:20
holsteinTadekmocar: the card will have one... or several18:20
TadekmocarCRTs can work on any, and there is no difference in blur etc18:20
Tadekmocarthe higher on CRT the better18:20
holsteinTadekmocar: again, you dont have to take my word for it.. i usually just poke around til something works, but i dont have "blurry" text18:20
holsteinnot on CRT's or lcds or laptops... whatever18:21
Tadekmocarur text is a bit blurry, though not as much as mine18:21
holsteinthis is a troubleshooting stop that is just a suggestion for dealing with blurry looking text18:21
holsteinwell... maybe it looks blurry in the res you are using18:22
holsteinit looks so sharp here, i can see the crookedness of the pixels.. but again.. do what you like18:22
holsteinim just sharing what has worked for me, which literally wont hurt you to try18:22
TadekMocarzzzim back18:23
TadekMocarzzzthe blur is called ClearType or something like that18:24
TadekMocarzzzits technology to make antialiased text18:24
TadekMocarzzzbut i dont like it18:24
TadekMocarzzzon windows u can choose if u want to use it.. was thinking on linux can choose too18:25
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: its all open.. you can do what you like18:25
TadekMocarzzzim not going to recompile linux to get normal text. i like to Click on options, creators, menus..18:25
TadekMocarzzzmouse is great hardware18:26
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: sure.. enjoy the GUI... should be in the font settings, or desktop settings18:26
holsteini set mine in a GUI18:26
TadekMocarzzzwill try18:26
TadekMocarzzzInstaller tell me to choose display manager     gdm  lightdm  lxdm18:27
TadekMocarzzzwhat they are18:27
TadekMocarzzzok i want to use lxdm, doesnt I ?18:28
TadekMocarzzzgdm = gnome18:28
holsteinyou can use what you like.. try them all.. that literally wont hurt either.. thats something linux is good for.. choice18:28
TadekMocarzzzi like choice too, but windows95-style like gui is perfect for me18:29
TadekMocarzzzits simple, gray and small18:29
TadekMocarzzzwindows with each new version is uglier for me18:30
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: windows 95 is just that though.. from 95.. its challening to find a modern solution that emulates that environment18:30
holsteinthere are a few though.. i forget the old one that looked just like that.. im searching18:31
holsteinyou will likely loose something you want/need as far as ease of use, and functionality18:31
bioterrorwindows95 style gui = icewm ;)18:32
holsteinyeah... thats it :)18:32
holsteinhttp://www.icewm.org/18:32
holsteinor http://xwinman.org/screenshots/fvwm95.gif from http://xwinman.org/fvwm95.php ...thats the one i was thinking of18:34
bioterrorfvwm is horrible18:35
bioterrorI spent sunday and monday with it :D18:35
holsteini made it a few hours18:36
TadekMocarzzzicewm : >Usable with GNOME and KDE environments18:36
TadekMocarzzzit is not what im using, right?18:36
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: it'll pull in what it needs18:36
bioterrorholstein, http://xpde.holobit.net/18:36
holsteinbioterror: HA!.. interesting18:37
TadekMocarzzzpeerfect18:38
holsteini thought http://razor-qt.org/ looked promising too for that kind of look/feel18:44
Timo_bioterror: why would someone mimic a Windows XP enviroment? xd18:47
Timo_well it could be helpful if you want to use Linux at work, but you dont want others to know you are using it :P18:47
TadekMocarzzzthere is another reasson: beauty18:48
bioterrorxp theme is far from the beauty18:48
bioterrorso is windows classic18:49
holsteinthats opinion though... i think its nice to have a drop in replacement for folks in a corporate envirnoment who are expecting XP18:49
bioterrorzune is almost there :--)18:49
Timo_TadekMocarzzz: this windows XP theme is looking aweful, imo. But well, tastes differ, I guess :p18:50
bioterrorwindows 7 looks good, vista almost18:50
Timo_true dat18:50
bioterrorI wish kde wasnt so horrible to use18:50
bioterrorwish it was more like GNOME with the KDE looks18:50
Timo_Hey just a short question here, the window border in OpenBox, is it possible to make that look like Ubuntu's window border?18:51
holsteinbioterror: agreed... its *so* slick (kde) but too heavy for my taste18:51
bioterrorhow does it look like?18:51
bioterrorholstein, it's not the heavy, it's just complicated18:51
bioterrorit just makes it impossible to use18:51
TadekMocarzzzTimo_ if u mean windows xp theme, this blue one, they i agree its ugly18:52
TadekMocarzzzbut windows xp set as classic gui (win95) looks perfect18:53
stlsaintawesomeWM FTW!18:53
holsteinbioterror: i can identify with that too... configuration overload :/18:53
bioterrorhttp://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/images/kde_kcontrol_main.png this18:54
bioterroryou open something from there18:54
bioterrorand it's full of new tabs18:54
bioterrorI'm getting a new desktop computer soon, but I have not decided what I'll put into it18:55
TadekMocarzzzwhat pc u currently hav18:57
bioterrorone acer with gnome 3 ;)18:57
bioterrorI'll upgrade from AMD X2 to Intel i518:58
TadekMocarzzzamd x2 is strong enough imho18:58
TadekMocarzzzfor anything18:59
bioterroryes and no18:59
TadekMocarzzzi have one core 1.8ghz athlon and its fast18:59
holsteindepends on what you are doing18:59
bioterrorit could be faster :-)18:59
TadekMocarzzzsometimes i have to wait when ex.unpacking few-gigabyte archives etc. but i just use internet / do anything for  few minutes19:00
holsteinif you do a lot of compling or rendoring, you could save a lot of time.. if that time = money, then the new machine pays for itself19:00
holsteinrender*19:00
TadekMocarzzzi do compiling but my programs never take more than 10k lines, and 1k lines per file19:01
bioterrorwell, I visited yesterday my office and my ex boss was whining "we have lots of desktop and 22 flat screen, dont you want them instead" when I was asking a laptop for recording guitar19:01
bioterror22"19:01
TadekMocarzzzi hav 1719:02
TadekMocarzzzlubuntu installed, what do ? how to run it19:02
bioterrorso I asked if he has DMS-59 graphics cards19:03
bioterrorand he said he'll fix one19:03
TadekMocarzzzhow to run lubuntu ? reboot?19:16
TadekMocarzzzupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-21-generic19:16
bioterrorsudo reboot19:19
bioterrorand then choose lubuntu as your your19:19
bioterrorsession19:19
bioterror:D19:19
TadekMocarzzzwhen i click Desktop combobox i get like 15 to choose19:21
TadekMocarzzzare they all working ?19:21
TadekMocarzzzor only some are installed19:21
TadekMocarzzzwhat is my username ?19:22
TadekMocarzzzok it works19:23
TadekMocarzzzits blurry but looks 3times better than unity, at least Start menu is present, and smaller butons19:24
holsteintry and imagine you just loaded up windows for the first time, and you are clicking around... learning where things are19:33
holsteinwe dont try and emulate other operating systems really, so there will be a learning curve, just as there was for windows or whatever other OS's you might have used19:33
TadekMocarzzzits not first time i use linux19:35
TadekMocarzzzbut i dont have knowledge and skills19:35
holsteinsure you do... but you'll still need to adapt your skills to the current situation19:36
Unit193Blurry?19:36
TadekMocarzzzyes blur = antialiasing19:36
TadekMocarzzzthe text is not sharp19:37
holsteinid like to see a screenshot.. i still think it might be the resolution19:37
TadekMocarzzzholstein heres http://imagebin.org/22396219:41
TadekMocarzzzcompare linux (on right) vs windows on left19:41
TadekMocarzzzlook into torbrowser windows, text is sharp and clean19:41
bioterrorvirtualbox19:41
TadekMocarzzzwindow*19:41
TadekMocarzzzsee the difference between rockbox.txt opened text file vs torbrowser  ?19:43
TadekMocarzzzthats what i mean by blurry19:43
holsteinyou cant compare linus and windows.. they have different drivers, and the manufacturer may not support linux19:43
holsteinand, that looks pretty sharp on my screen, so i would look at the screen resolution, maybe try a few options19:44
TadekMocarzzzits not like i cant read the text.. but i prefer sharp like windows19:45
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: then, i would just undo the text smoothing, if you dont like it19:45
TadekMocarzzzlinux text is like u used ComisSans font on windows, kind of cartoon/text19:46
holsteinit looks very clean and readable to me19:46
TadekMocarzzzhow to turn it off19:46
TadekMocarzzztext smoothing19:46
holsteini would try http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=148619:48
holsteinmight need to log out and back in19:48
kanliotare you runnning your screen in it's native resolution?19:49
kanliotits19:49
holsteinkanliot: we've had that conversation... its a CRT, and CRT's "dont have a native resolution"19:50
kanliot:)19:50
holsteindoesnt look like its running native anyway... lubuntu is virtualized19:50
Unit193Also seems to be VBox...19:51
holsteinyeah.. knowing that rules out the graphics driver as the cause19:52
kanliotwell you turned off sub-pixel geo, right?19:54
TadekMocarzzzi cant file that file20:01
TadekMocarzzzfrom that thread20:01
TadekMocarzzzfind*20:02
holsteinthere are a few options there... if it were me, i would enjoyt he defaults for a bit.. get my feet wet...20:04
kanliotTadekMocarzzz, did you turn subpixel off?20:05
TadekMocarzzzno, i dont know how20:06
TadekMocarzzzhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xresources20:06
TadekMocarzzzdont understand Getting started paragraph20:07
kanliotit's next to font smoothing on look and feel20:07
TadekMocarzzzi have opened "Openbox configuration manager"20:07
TadekMocarzzzthere is appearance tab20:07
TadekMocarzzzbut nothing like subpixel or antialias20:07
holsteinsometimes, i suggest making a different user, and just experimenting with the settings... then if you break something, you can just delete that user20:08
TadekMocarzzzoh i see20:08
TadekMocarzzzthere is look and feel somethin20:08
TadekMocarzzzkanliot, thanks man, look n feel it make it looks like windows20:13
TadekMocarzzzno more blur20:13
kanliotyeah20:14
holsteinmakes your lubuntu look more like your windows20:14
TadekMocarzzzthe mouse cursor is still blurred but thats not a big issue20:14
holsteinthe pixelated tail shouldnt be hard to emulate if thats what you want20:16
TadekMocarzzzyes, i prefer simple pixelated two colored cursor, just black and white20:17
holsteinsure... you can literally open up a graphics creation tool, and make your own if you'd like20:18
holsteinits not like windows really though, you wont notice an improvement in resource usage by stepping everything down inthe UI like that20:18
TadekMocarzzzits not about resource usage, i have bags of ram20:18
TadekMocarzzzjust want it to look good, nice, clean20:19
holsteinenjoy then!... use whatever cursor you like... im sure you can find that exact XP cursor theme for xxde20:19
holsteinlxde*20:19
holsteinTadekMocarzzz: nice is a matter of opinion... clean can be too20:19
holsteinif you want to imulate XP, you can20:19
TadekMocarzzzwhat i dont like about linux, is u have to enter password 10 times a day22:05
cr1st0hello lubuntu with wubi is much slower then normal ubuntu?22:11
Unit193Did you just compare Wubi to non-wubi?22:12
cr1st0maybe :|22:13
Unit193Wubi is le crap, are you talking Unity or Gnome2 days?22:14
cr1st0i installed lubuntu with wubi, lxde then22:15
TadekMocarzzzlinux is not that bad, after some configuration22:23
Timo_Hi, I know I can make a dock from LXPanel, but is there a way to give the applications in the dock a keyboard shortcut (like in DockbarX for exmple, I can switch between applications by typing SUPER+appnumber)22:23
gld1982ltdHi all. I have successfully been using lxmed to edit my menu. i'm trying to package lxmed into a deb. Can anyone help me? I keep ending up with an empty binary.22:25
Unit193I'd generally recommend -motu on that, though -packaging if that exists would be good.22:33
Unit193#ubuntu-packaging 50 :Packaging for Ubuntu, including new packages, PPA packages, etc.   For working on Ubuntu, see #ubuntu-devel, for writing applications, see #ubuntu-app-devel22:34
gld1982ltdwhat is -motu?22:36
Unit193!motu22:37
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ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU22:37
gld1982ltdthanks.22:38
Unit193Hope they can get it, though on an application note, I remember some reason that one had issues.22:40
gld1982ltdI have had no issues with it since the upgrade to 12.04. It used to need to be run a few times for the changes to take effect. it seems to work perfectly now.22:42
gld1982ltdApplications that are specified for gnome or whatever still have to have their desktop files edited to remove the dependency of gnome desktop environment for the app to be displayed in the menu. once you edit the desktop file, you can use lxmed to enable or disable it from the menu.22:44
gld1982ltdi use a plethora of apps from gnome, kde, lxde, and xfce, so I have had to edit many desktop files. I like that lxmed can edit them for you as long as it can read them.22:45
TadekMocarzzzanyone here using "make"?23:08
kanliotys23:15
TadekMocarzzzi compiled a software using "make"23:16
TadekMocarzzzthe question is, if i change one file, will using "make" recompile everything? or just that file23:16
kanliotevrything23:16
TadekMocarzzzdamn, thats very bad23:16
TadekMocarzzzwhat do?23:16
TadekMocarzzzthe compilation takes 35minutes23:17
kanliotmake doesn't recompile stuff with no changes23:17
TadekMocarzzzso only one file with change will recompile23:18
kanliotdepends23:18
kanliotbut it won't take 35 mins23:19
TadekMocarzzzok seems it is not recompiling everything, i didnt change anything and used second time make23:20
Unit193TadekMocarzzz: What type of file did you change?23:25
Unit193Some files you need to   make clean   before building again, or it doesn't work right.23:25
TadekMocarzzzwhich files23:25
TadekMocarzzzi didnt changed nothing yet, just used make again23:26

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