[00:18] <aganabe> grub isnt support my monitor freq
[00:18] <aganabe> grub isnt shown
[00:18] <aganabe> how can i fix it
[00:30] <kanliot> aganabe, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1790342
[00:32] <aganabe> thx
[00:32] <aganabe> kanliot thx
[01:24] <wallnuts> Does anybody know how to enable a shell on tty8 I'd like to start a new xsession for another user account
[01:54] <aslanpayi> how can i use lubuntu on usb memory. not live, portable.
[01:55] <kanliot> you want a persistent system entirely on the usb, or you want to install to usb?
[01:55] <aslanpayi> install
[01:56] <aslanpayi> but i can use it every pc
[01:56] <kanliot> just go through the installer, but install to the usb
[01:57] <aslanpayi> when i do this can i use lubuntu another computer
[01:57] <kanliot> i really donno
[01:57] <aslanpayi> ok
[01:57] <aslanpayi> thx
[02:05] <aslanpayi> can another person help me?
[02:05] <aslanpayi> is it support ?? omg
[02:06] <kanliot> you  should wait, might take a while
[02:06] <kanliot> or ask in #ubuntu
[02:06] <aslanpayi> ok
[02:06] <aslanpayi> thx
[02:19] <amh345> are any of you running serviio media server?   im trying to get things functioning in this lubuntu install.  but no dice thus far.
[02:19] <amh345> for example.  when i open the program.  the serviio icon doesnt show up in what i think is lubuntu's taskbar
[02:34] <amh345> and there be no java either
[02:34] <amh345> nor can i even find he package
[02:34] <amh345> nothing works
[04:14] <pollard777> Hola, alquien habla español?
[04:16] <Unit193> !es
[04:23] <pollard777> Muchas gracias, muy amables.
[04:24] <Unit193> Have a good one.
[04:26] <kanliot> is there a list of ubbottu commands?
[04:26] <Unit193> !facts
[04:26] <Unit193> Dumb bot...
[04:26] <Unit193> !factoids
[04:27] <kanliot> k
[11:11] <unless_> Hello guys!
[11:12] <unless_> I am trying to use make command and it reports there is no cc installed, how do I install it?
[11:22] <unless_> Hey guys, how do I set desktop icon size?
[11:54] <Fat> bonjour
[11:55] <bioterror> godag
[11:55] <bioterror> +d ;)
[12:05] <unless_> hello!
[12:05] <unless_> how do I set a different fileBrowser other then the default?
[12:06] <bioterror> from pcmanfm to what?
[12:06] <bioterror> pcmanfm for example handles the desktop of lubuntu
[12:08] <unless_> I was thinking on Thunar. I already installed it but don't know how to set it as default. If possible.
[12:11] <bioterror> why you're not just installing xubuntu then?
[12:12] <unless_> well, I am quite a newbie and I just left Ubuntu because I didn't like the last version changes.
[12:13] <bioterror> you dont seem to like pcmanfm either :(
[12:13] <unless_> I am really in love with Lubuntu except that the default file manager doesn't follow along the system menu font or system font size.
[12:14] <unless_> But pcmanfm is not the OS, it just a crap file manager.
[12:14] <unless_> Hoep you are not part of the team :P
[12:15] <bioterror> pcmanfm is crap becouse you cant change font size?-)
[12:15] <lamogo> Lubuntu is designed to be lightweight.
[12:16] <lamogo> You can't go and buy a compact car and complain it doesn't haul your yacht.
[12:16] <bioterror> remove all the graphics stuff, install just plain openbox and add what ever you want
[12:17] <lamogo> If you use something for what it was meant for you'll always be happy with it.
[12:17] <unless_> well, for a visual operational system environment with is basically made to control files and etc, if you can't set s font accordingly which what you like it is very bad. What would be the main purpose of a File Manager on a visual file system other that be very friendly which user wishes?
[12:18] <bioterror> pcmanfm sniffs fronts from the lxappearance
[12:18] <bioterror> all the titlebars has font configs in obconf
[12:18] <bioterror> fonts even
[12:18] <unless_> yes
[12:19] <unless_> other than that I am not complaining it is over simplified, I like it having in mind my system will be light.
[12:19] <bioterror> pcmanfm:
[12:19] <bioterror> Download Size  : 137,98 KiB
[12:19] <bioterror> Installed Size : 1272,00 KiB
[12:19] <bioterror> thunar:Download Size  : 906,77 KiB
[12:19] <bioterror> Installed Size : 5156,00 KiB
[12:20] <bioterror> \o/
[12:20]  * lamogo laughs
[12:20] <unless_> yes, thunar does lots more than file managing. unfortunately.
[12:20] <bioterror> with GPRS connection it makes differences!
[12:21] <lamogo> Honestly /unless_  it is the Linux world that allows so much freedom.
[12:21] <bioterror> unless_, so tell us which font size you cant change in pcmanfm?
[12:21] <unless_> bioterror, same I've set on my hole system, 9
[12:21] <bioterror> lamogo, there's other shells for windows too instead of explorer.exe
[12:22] <lamogo> I know, I encourage his freedom and to experiment with all that Linux and FOSS has to offer
[12:23] <unless_> how do I remove a application ?
[12:23] <bioterror> !apt | unless_
[12:30] <unless_> thank you a lot bioterror! :o)
[12:36] <bioterror> apt is a lot more powerful from the command line than synaptic is
[12:36] <bioterror> with a properly configured shell it's quite easy
[12:41] <unless_> I have named my .vimrc mistaked as .rcvim, how can I use cp command to rename it, I am currently using cp ./.rcvim ./.vimrc but it throws cp: cannot stat `./.rcvim': No such file or directory
[12:41] <bioterror> no cp
[12:41] <bioterror> you use mv
[12:41] <unless_> ohcibi, ok
[12:42] <unless_> bioterror, still, same problem :P
[12:42] <bioterror> ?
[12:42] <unless_> mv: cannot stat `.rcvim': No such file or directory
[12:43] <unless_> ohcibi, ok I figured, wrong dir.
[12:43] <unless_> thank you!
[12:43] <bioterror> :D
[12:43] <bioterror> did you make yourself a good vimrc?
[12:46] <unless_> bioterror, hahaha... yes
[13:45] <trevjs> What would be a good channel to ask postfix on ubuntu questions?
[14:09] <trevjs> After installing postfix using apt-get and configuring with dpkg I can't connect to it with "telnet localhost 25" does anybody know why this would be?
[15:08] <kanliot> trevjs, did you config /opt/smtp-tunnel?
[15:46] <trevjs> I had been playing around with sasl and once I deleted those lines from main.cf and restarted it worked
[15:47] <trevjs> oh, yeah I got it fixed, never said anything.  thx though
[15:48] <kanliot> np
[17:52] <Tadekmocar> HI
[17:52] <Tadekmocar> what gui use lubuntu
[17:52] <Tadekmocar> is using*
[17:53] <bioterror> Openbox + lxde components on top of it
[17:53] <Tadekmocar> hmm if i install lxde on top of ubuntu 11.10 unity   i wont get lubuntu ?
[17:53] <bioterror> !purelxde
[17:54] <Tadekmocar> ok thanks
[17:54] <Tadekmocar> do i need to install openbox ? oir just lxde
[17:56] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <bioterror> after you have logged into your lubuntu installation, you run that pure lxde stuff to remove gnome stuff
[17:57] <bioterror> or you can keep both
[17:58] <Tadekmocar> the problem is i already input "install lxde"
[17:58] <Tadekmocar> and install is in progress
[17:58] <bioterror> not a problem
[18:00] <Tadekmocar> it takes long, seems it is much megabytes
[18:01] <bioterror> not really
[18:01] <Tadekmocar> i do hope lubuntu will run faster than unity
[18:02] <holstein> you hope LXDE will run faster than unity
[18:02] <holstein> and lubuntu will run faster than ubuntu... they are the same underneath, but i would expect LXDE to be lighter
[18:04] <Tadekmocar> but anyway im installing it for other reason - unity looks like some toy for 4year old kid, and like it was designed to run facebook and utube
[18:04] <Tadekmocar> the icons/butoons/text is very big and blurry
[18:04] <holstein> i dont use unity, but im ok with it now that its faster, and stable
[18:04] <holstein> looks great.. clean and simple... coming along nicely
[18:04] <holstein> not for me though
[18:05] <bioterror> unity is a lot more complicated than gnome 3 shell
[18:05] <Tadekmocar> oh, and, does lubuntu allow to disable blur ? its one of most frustating things  i hate in linux
[18:05] <Tadekmocar> but it looks like made for kid
[18:05] <bioterror> blur is an awesome band
[18:05] <holstein> Tadekmocar: i would look at your graphics driver and resolution
[18:05] <Tadekmocar> resolution is 1152x864
[18:05] <Tadekmocar> before was using 1024x768
[18:06] <bioterror> 1152 is a horrible resolution
[18:06] <Tadekmocar> on windows text look nice and sharp but on linux is very blurred
[18:06] <bioterror> text is always on linux blurred
[18:06] <holstein> Tadekmocar: i would look for what the default resolution is
[18:06] <bioterror> that's becouse linux has a crappy antialiasing on fonts
[18:07] <Tadekmocar> i hate antialiasing
[18:07] <Tadekmocar> and my resolution is ok.. i see very much on windows
[18:08] <Tadekmocar> but the fonts are small and buttons too
[18:08] <holstein> Tadekmocar: windoes has a different driver though... and if the manufacturer will supply you a linux driver, you can compare the 2.. otherwise, its not really constructive to compare
[18:09] <Tadekmocar> its not driver issue, its problem with fonts/antialiasing
[18:09] <Tadekmocar> i can see when i do a print screen and zoom in
[18:09] <holstein> Tadekmocar: cool... enjoy then.. i usually have luck trying different drivers in native resolution... if you havent tried it, it literally wont hurt
[18:10] <holstein> i have no "blurry-ness" that bothers me
[18:10] <Tadekmocar> maybe u have HD resolution ?
[18:10] <Tadekmocar> what is yours
[18:11] <holstein> Tadekmocar: i would have stated so... i had fuzzy graphics .. on several machines... an old nvidia and a VIA chip
[18:11] <holstein> Tadekmocar: and others.. but i dont recall.. i always found a tolerable setting going through a troubleshooting process
[18:13] <Tadekmocar> btw. why is the lubuntu installer downloading chromium browser?
[18:13] <Tadekmocar> its full of spyware
[18:13] <holstein> Tadekmocar: its in the official repos, and doesnt contain any "spyware"
[18:13] <Tadekmocar> its made by google
[18:13] <holstein> you might be implying that chrome does, though it doesnt either..
[18:14] <holstein> chromium is not "made by google".. it is the opensource version
[18:14] <Tadekmocar> how you know ?
[18:14] <Tadekmocar> maybe.. but opensource!=spyware free
[18:14] <bioterror> :D
[18:14] <holstein> Tadekmocar: in the ubuntu repos is pretty secure.. you cant just stick packages in there
[18:15] <holstein> there are rules and regulations... and signatures.. and commities... and communities
[18:15] <holstein> Tadekmocar: check it out for yourself.. you can always purge chromium
[18:15] <holstein> Tadekmocar: nothing in lubuntu or ubuntu is hiding from you.. source is avaiable, and you can remove *anything*
[18:15] <holstein> Tadekmocar: look for yourself.... trust no one
[18:16] <holstein> Tadekmocar: i know, but cause i trust the ubuntu MOTU's and package maintainers
[18:16] <Tadekmocar> the thing is nobody can read and check all of the code.. checking one program would take month.. and the source might look clear, backdoors etc. are make that look like normal useful source
[18:17] <Tadekmocar> i trust nobody
[18:17] <holstein> Tadekmocar: cool.. you can check it for yourself though, or remove it, and use whatever browser you like
[18:17] <holstein> OR, no browser... or your own custom one
[18:18] <Tadekmocar> i will change it to other browser
[18:18] <holstein> Tadekmocar: its all open, so you are free to do what you like.. and thats about as good as it can get.. theres no one who can "do it for you" that you will trust
[18:18] <holstein> i would consider linux from scratch
[18:18] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/223948 is an example of the non-fuzz that i enjoy at native screen res
[18:19] <Tadekmocar> oh i see what u mean by native screen res
[18:19] <Tadekmocar> but i dont have native res..
[18:19] <Tadekmocar> im using 17" crt
[18:19] <Tadekmocar> any resolution is valid
[18:19] <holstein> Tadekmocar: the screen and card will have a "native" res
[18:20] <holstein> Tadekmocar: all are valid, sure, but one will be "native"
[18:20] <Tadekmocar> no.. man, only LCD have native res
[18:20] <holstein> Tadekmocar: the card will have one... or several
[18:20] <Tadekmocar> CRTs can work on any, and there is no difference in blur etc
[18:20] <Tadekmocar> the higher on CRT the better
[18:20] <holstein> Tadekmocar: again, you dont have to take my word for it.. i usually just poke around til something works, but i dont have "blurry" text
[18:21] <holstein> not on CRT's or lcds or laptops... whatever
[18:21] <Tadekmocar> ur text is a bit blurry, though not as much as mine
[18:21] <holstein> this is a troubleshooting stop that is just a suggestion for dealing with blurry looking text
[18:22] <holstein> well... maybe it looks blurry in the res you are using
[18:22] <holstein> it looks so sharp here, i can see the crookedness of the pixels.. but again.. do what you like
[18:22] <holstein> im just sharing what has worked for me, which literally wont hurt you to try
[18:23] <TadekMocarzzz> im back
[18:24] <TadekMocarzzz> the blur is called ClearType or something like that
[18:24] <TadekMocarzzz> its technology to make antialiased text
[18:24] <TadekMocarzzz> but i dont like it
[18:25] <TadekMocarzzz> on windows u can choose if u want to use it.. was thinking on linux can choose too
[18:25] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: its all open.. you can do what you like
[18:25] <TadekMocarzzz> im not going to recompile linux to get normal text. i like to Click on options, creators, menus..
[18:26] <TadekMocarzzz> mouse is great hardware
[18:26] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: sure.. enjoy the GUI... should be in the font settings, or desktop settings
[18:26] <holstein> i set mine in a GUI
[18:26] <TadekMocarzzz> will try
[18:27] <TadekMocarzzz> Installer tell me to choose display manager     gdm  lightdm  lxdm
[18:27] <TadekMocarzzz> what they are
[18:28] <TadekMocarzzz> ok i want to use lxdm, doesnt I ?
[18:28] <TadekMocarzzz> gdm = gnome
[18:28] <holstein> you can use what you like.. try them all.. that literally wont hurt either.. thats something linux is good for.. choice
[18:29] <TadekMocarzzz> i like choice too, but windows95-style like gui is perfect for me
[18:29] <TadekMocarzzz> its simple, gray and small
[18:30] <TadekMocarzzz> windows with each new version is uglier for me
[18:30] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: windows 95 is just that though.. from 95.. its challening to find a modern solution that emulates that environment
[18:31] <holstein> there are a few though.. i forget the old one that looked just like that.. im searching
[18:31] <holstein> you will likely loose something you want/need as far as ease of use, and functionality
[18:32] <bioterror> windows95 style gui = icewm ;)
[18:32] <holstein> yeah... thats it :)
[18:32] <holstein> http://www.icewm.org/
[18:34] <holstein> or http://xwinman.org/screenshots/fvwm95.gif from http://xwinman.org/fvwm95.php ...thats the one i was thinking of
[18:35] <bioterror> fvwm is horrible
[18:35] <bioterror> I spent sunday and monday with it :D
[18:36] <holstein> i made it a few hours
[18:36] <TadekMocarzzz> icewm : >Usable with GNOME and KDE environments
[18:36] <TadekMocarzzz> it is not what im using, right?
[18:36] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: it'll pull in what it needs
[18:36] <bioterror> holstein, http://xpde.holobit.net/
[18:37] <holstein> bioterror: HA!.. interesting
[18:38] <TadekMocarzzz> peerfect
[18:44] <holstein> i thought http://razor-qt.org/ looked promising too for that kind of look/feel
[18:47] <Timo_> bioterror: why would someone mimic a Windows XP enviroment? xd
[18:47] <Timo_> well it could be helpful if you want to use Linux at work, but you dont want others to know you are using it :P
[18:48] <TadekMocarzzz> there is another reasson: beauty
[18:48] <bioterror> xp theme is far from the beauty
[18:49] <bioterror> so is windows classic
[18:49] <holstein> thats opinion though... i think its nice to have a drop in replacement for folks in a corporate envirnoment who are expecting XP
[18:49] <bioterror> zune is almost there :--)
[18:50] <Timo_> TadekMocarzzz: this windows XP theme is looking aweful, imo. But well, tastes differ, I guess :p
[18:50] <bioterror> windows 7 looks good, vista almost
[18:50] <Timo_> true dat
[18:50] <bioterror> I wish kde wasnt so horrible to use
[18:50] <bioterror> wish it was more like GNOME with the KDE looks
[18:51] <Timo_> Hey just a short question here, the window border in OpenBox, is it possible to make that look like Ubuntu's window border?
[18:51] <holstein> bioterror: agreed... its *so* slick (kde) but too heavy for my taste
[18:51] <bioterror> how does it look like?
[18:51] <bioterror> holstein, it's not the heavy, it's just complicated
[18:51] <bioterror> it just makes it impossible to use
[18:52] <TadekMocarzzz> Timo_ if u mean windows xp theme, this blue one, they i agree its ugly
[18:53] <TadekMocarzzz> but windows xp set as classic gui (win95) looks perfect
[18:53] <stlsaint> awesomeWM FTW!
[18:53] <holstein> bioterror: i can identify with that too... configuration overload :/
[18:54] <bioterror> http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/images/kde_kcontrol_main.png this
[18:54] <bioterror> you open something from there
[18:54] <bioterror> and it's full of new tabs
[18:55] <bioterror> I'm getting a new desktop computer soon, but I have not decided what I'll put into it
[18:57] <TadekMocarzzz> what pc u currently hav
[18:57] <bioterror> one acer with gnome 3 ;)
[18:58] <bioterror> I'll upgrade from AMD X2 to Intel i5
[18:58] <TadekMocarzzz> amd x2 is strong enough imho
[18:59] <TadekMocarzzz> for anything
[18:59] <bioterror> yes and no
[18:59] <TadekMocarzzz> i have one core 1.8ghz athlon and its fast
[18:59] <holstein> depends on what you are doing
[18:59] <bioterror> it could be faster :-)
[19:00] <TadekMocarzzz> sometimes i have to wait when ex.unpacking few-gigabyte archives etc. but i just use internet / do anything for  few minutes
[19:00] <holstein> if you do a lot of compling or rendoring, you could save a lot of time.. if that time = money, then the new machine pays for itself
[19:00] <holstein> render*
[19:01] <TadekMocarzzz> i do compiling but my programs never take more than 10k lines, and 1k lines per file
[19:01] <bioterror> well, I visited yesterday my office and my ex boss was whining "we have lots of desktop and 22 flat screen, dont you want them instead" when I was asking a laptop for recording guitar
[19:01] <bioterror> 22"
[19:02] <TadekMocarzzz> i hav 17
[19:02] <TadekMocarzzz> lubuntu installed, what do ? how to run it
[19:03] <bioterror> so I asked if he has DMS-59 graphics cards
[19:03] <bioterror> and he said he'll fix one
[19:16] <TadekMocarzzz> how to run lubuntu ? reboot?
[19:16] <TadekMocarzzz> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-21-generic
[19:19] <bioterror> sudo reboot
[19:19] <bioterror> and then choose lubuntu as your your
[19:19] <bioterror> session
[19:19] <bioterror> :D
[19:21] <TadekMocarzzz> when i click Desktop combobox i get like 15 to choose
[19:21] <TadekMocarzzz> are they all working ?
[19:21] <TadekMocarzzz> or only some are installed
[19:22] <TadekMocarzzz> what is my username ?
[19:23] <TadekMocarzzz> ok it works
[19:24] <TadekMocarzzz> its blurry but looks 3times better than unity, at least Start menu is present, and smaller butons
[19:33] <holstein> try and imagine you just loaded up windows for the first time, and you are clicking around... learning where things are
[19:33] <holstein> we dont try and emulate other operating systems really, so there will be a learning curve, just as there was for windows or whatever other OS's you might have used
[19:35] <TadekMocarzzz> its not first time i use linux
[19:35] <TadekMocarzzz> but i dont have knowledge and skills
[19:36] <holstein> sure you do... but you'll still need to adapt your skills to the current situation
[19:36] <Unit193> Blurry?
[19:36] <TadekMocarzzz> yes blur = antialiasing
[19:37] <TadekMocarzzz> the text is not sharp
[19:37] <holstein> id like to see a screenshot.. i still think it might be the resolution
[19:41] <TadekMocarzzz> holstein heres http://imagebin.org/223962
[19:41] <TadekMocarzzz> compare linux (on right) vs windows on left
[19:41] <TadekMocarzzz> look into torbrowser windows, text is sharp and clean
[19:41] <bioterror> virtualbox
[19:41] <TadekMocarzzz> window*
[19:43] <TadekMocarzzz> see the difference between rockbox.txt opened text file vs torbrowser  ?
[19:43] <TadekMocarzzz> thats what i mean by blurry
[19:43] <holstein> you cant compare linus and windows.. they have different drivers, and the manufacturer may not support linux
[19:44] <holstein> and, that looks pretty sharp on my screen, so i would look at the screen resolution, maybe try a few options
[19:45] <TadekMocarzzz> its not like i cant read the text.. but i prefer sharp like windows
[19:45] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: then, i would just undo the text smoothing, if you dont like it
[19:46] <TadekMocarzzz> linux text is like u used ComisSans font on windows, kind of cartoon/text
[19:46] <holstein> it looks very clean and readable to me
[19:46] <TadekMocarzzz> how to turn it off
[19:46] <TadekMocarzzz> text smoothing
[19:48] <holstein> i would try http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1486
[19:48] <holstein> might need to log out and back in
[19:49] <kanliot> are you runnning your screen in it's native resolution?
[19:49] <kanliot> its
[19:50] <holstein> kanliot: we've had that conversation... its a CRT, and CRT's "dont have a native resolution"
[19:50] <kanliot> :)
[19:50] <holstein> doesnt look like its running native anyway... lubuntu is virtualized
[19:51] <Unit193> Also seems to be VBox...
[19:52] <holstein> yeah.. knowing that rules out the graphics driver as the cause
[19:54] <kanliot> well you turned off sub-pixel geo, right?
[20:01] <TadekMocarzzz> i cant file that file
[20:01] <TadekMocarzzz> from that thread
[20:02] <TadekMocarzzz> find*
[20:04] <holstein> there are a few options there... if it were me, i would enjoyt he defaults for a bit.. get my feet wet...
[20:05] <kanliot> TadekMocarzzz, did you turn subpixel off?
[20:06] <TadekMocarzzz> no, i dont know how
[20:06] <TadekMocarzzz> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xresources
[20:07] <TadekMocarzzz> dont understand Getting started paragraph
[20:07] <kanliot> it's next to font smoothing on look and feel
[20:07] <TadekMocarzzz> i have opened "Openbox configuration manager"
[20:07] <TadekMocarzzz> there is appearance tab
[20:07] <TadekMocarzzz> but nothing like subpixel or antialias
[20:08] <holstein> sometimes, i suggest making a different user, and just experimenting with the settings... then if you break something, you can just delete that user
[20:08] <TadekMocarzzz> oh i see
[20:08] <TadekMocarzzz> there is look and feel somethin
[20:13] <TadekMocarzzz> kanliot, thanks man, look n feel it make it looks like windows
[20:13] <TadekMocarzzz> no more blur
[20:14] <kanliot> yeah
[20:14] <holstein> makes your lubuntu look more like your windows
[20:14] <TadekMocarzzz> the mouse cursor is still blurred but thats not a big issue
[20:16] <holstein> the pixelated tail shouldnt be hard to emulate if thats what you want
[20:17] <TadekMocarzzz> yes, i prefer simple pixelated two colored cursor, just black and white
[20:18] <holstein> sure... you can literally open up a graphics creation tool, and make your own if you'd like
[20:18] <holstein> its not like windows really though, you wont notice an improvement in resource usage by stepping everything down inthe UI like that
[20:18] <TadekMocarzzz> its not about resource usage, i have bags of ram
[20:19] <TadekMocarzzz> just want it to look good, nice, clean
[20:19] <holstein> enjoy then!... use whatever cursor you like... im sure you can find that exact XP cursor theme for xxde
[20:19] <holstein> lxde*
[20:19] <holstein> TadekMocarzzz: nice is a matter of opinion... clean can be too
[20:19] <holstein> if you want to imulate XP, you can
[22:05] <TadekMocarzzz> what i dont like about linux, is u have to enter password 10 times a day
[22:11] <cr1st0> hello lubuntu with wubi is much slower then normal ubuntu?
[22:12] <Unit193> Did you just compare Wubi to non-wubi?
[22:13] <cr1st0> maybe :|
[22:14] <Unit193> Wubi is le crap, are you talking Unity or Gnome2 days?
[22:15] <cr1st0> i installed lubuntu with wubi, lxde then
[22:23] <TadekMocarzzz> linux is not that bad, after some configuration
[22:23] <Timo_> Hi, I know I can make a dock from LXPanel, but is there a way to give the applications in the dock a keyboard shortcut (like in DockbarX for exmple, I can switch between applications by typing SUPER+appnumber)
[22:25] <gld1982ltd> Hi all. I have successfully been using lxmed to edit my menu. i'm trying to package lxmed into a deb. Can anyone help me? I keep ending up with an empty binary.
[22:33] <Unit193> I'd generally recommend -motu on that, though -packaging if that exists would be good.
[22:34] <Unit193> #ubuntu-packaging 50 :Packaging for Ubuntu, including new packages, PPA packages, etc.   For working on Ubuntu, see #ubuntu-devel, for writing applications, see #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:36] <gld1982ltd> what is -motu?
[22:37] <Unit193> !motu
[22:37] <Unit193> Quantal: Archive open | Want to get involved with the MOTU?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://bit.ly/fz6AyQ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs |  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs
[22:38] <gld1982ltd> thanks.
[22:40] <Unit193> Hope they can get it, though on an application note, I remember some reason that one had issues.
[22:42] <gld1982ltd> I have had no issues with it since the upgrade to 12.04. It used to need to be run a few times for the changes to take effect. it seems to work perfectly now.
[22:44] <gld1982ltd> Applications that are specified for gnome or whatever still have to have their desktop files edited to remove the dependency of gnome desktop environment for the app to be displayed in the menu. once you edit the desktop file, you can use lxmed to enable or disable it from the menu.
[22:45] <gld1982ltd> i use a plethora of apps from gnome, kde, lxde, and xfce, so I have had to edit many desktop files. I like that lxmed can edit them for you as long as it can read them.
[23:08] <TadekMocarzzz> anyone here using "make"?
[23:15] <kanliot> ys
[23:16] <TadekMocarzzz> i compiled a software using "make"
[23:16] <TadekMocarzzz> the question is, if i change one file, will using "make" recompile everything? or just that file
[23:16] <kanliot> evrything
[23:16] <TadekMocarzzz> damn, thats very bad
[23:16] <TadekMocarzzz> what do?
[23:17] <TadekMocarzzz> the compilation takes 35minutes
[23:17] <kanliot> make doesn't recompile stuff with no changes
[23:18] <TadekMocarzzz> so only one file with change will recompile
[23:18] <kanliot> depends
[23:19] <kanliot> but it won't take 35 mins
[23:20] <TadekMocarzzz> ok seems it is not recompiling everything, i didnt change anything and used second time make
[23:25] <Unit193> TadekMocarzzz: What type of file did you change?
[23:25] <Unit193> Some files you need to   make clean   before building again, or it doesn't work right.
[23:25] <TadekMocarzzz> which files
[23:26] <TadekMocarzzz> i didnt changed nothing yet, just used make again