[04:11] <micahg> the top 3 uploaders for quantal so far are not-canonical totalling 25%, nice :)
[04:14]  * ajmitch obviously needs to get in on the haskell action :)
[04:14] <micahg> wow, ~5k uploads to quantal already
[04:15] <micahg> ajmitch: 30 rebuilds will get you on the top 50 list :)
[04:16] <ajmitch> depends if there are 30 left by next week
[04:16] <micahg> heh, I'm trying to knock off a few a night
[04:22] <jtaylor> is new still going to be processed before feature freeze?
[04:23] <StevenK> jtaylor: If it uploaded before feature freeze and it's in NEW after, it still counts as before.
[04:24] <jtaylor> StevenK: thx thats good
[04:25] <ajmitch> StevenK: oh right, you're still an AA that I can bribe?
[04:26] <StevenK> ajmitch: Whaddya got?
[04:26] <jtaylor> the package I currently have in the queue (fftw3-mpi) is not really new its the same source as the main fftw3
[04:26] <jtaylor> so it should be easy to process
[04:27] <StevenK> Two sources == bad
[04:27] <ajmitch> StevenK: nothing uploaded yet, but I'll try & upload by this weekend
[05:06] <Logan_> micahg: so, going off of my question
[05:06] <Logan_> what is the best path in that case?
[05:07] <micahg> Logan_: so, in cases of non-Ubuntu specific bugs, it's best to get them fixed as far upstream as possible, any diff we carry requires manual work in the future and we want to minimize that where possible/practical
[05:08] <micahg> In cases where the Debian maintainer hasn't been paying attention to the package, if it's a package you care about, you might want to ask if the maintainer would like help with it
[05:08] <Logan_> would that be at WNPP?
[05:08] <Logan_> or would I e-mail the maintainer directly?
[05:09] <micahg> sometimes an RFH is filed, otherwise, you can mail directly and ask if it appears neglected
[05:09] <micahg> lots of packages are now team maintained, so if you want to help, you can ask to join the team
[05:10] <Logan_> okay, awesome
[05:11] <micahg> if that doesn't help or isn't appropriate, there are cases when an NMU is appropriate, see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#nmu
[05:12] <micahg> and for the case where it's not RC in Debian but is in Ubuntu, there's the last resort of uploading a fix directly
[05:12] <Logan_> cool
[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[06:53] <micahg> dholbach: good morning
[06:53] <dholbach> hey micahg
[06:53]  * micahg hugs dholbach for restoring the sponsorship queue
[06:54] <micahg> dholbach: meeting in ~9 hrs?
[06:54] <dholbach> micahg, not quite restored - see bug 1031764
[06:54] <dholbach> worked around the problem at least
[06:55] <dholbach> micahg, I'm not 100% sure yet if I can make the meeting, but I'll do my best - this is my first day back after holidays :)
[06:55] <dholbach> today is a day of meetings
[06:56] <micahg> dholbach: well, that's a restoration of sorts (I saw the bug comment, that's how I knew it was you)
[06:56] <micahg> dholbach: welcome back
[06:56] <dholbach> thanks :)
[09:19] <pipedream> what is the difference between unity-greeter and lightdm?
[09:20] <pipedream> http://www.iloveubuntu.net/unity-greeter-updated-support-disable-ready-sound-ubuntu-1204
[09:20] <pipedream> I thought that was lightdm
[09:31] <dholbach> pipedream, lightdm is the machinery which starts different greeters - if you ask on #ubuntu-desktop you might get more detailed answers :)
[09:42] <pipedream> thanks
[11:13] <arand> Is it possible to request syncs from experimental due to the Debian Freeze?
[11:16] <Laney> yes
[11:18] <arand> ok, now just the question if upstream will release in a week or a month...
[11:36] <Quintasan> Is it acceptable for package to depend on gdb on build-time? There are some tests which require gdb
[11:38] <Zhenech> I've seen core packages depend on valgrind, so why not also gdb
[11:38] <Zhenech> (IANAUD)
[11:40] <Quintasan> Zhenech: Ok, thanks.
[11:41] <Quintasan> Aww
[11:41] <Quintasan> It also wants a X session running
[11:41] <Zhenech> there is something for that too
[11:41] <Zhenech> look at the libdbusmenu, libindicate, libindicator packages
[11:42] <Zhenech> also maybe indicator-session, indicator-messages
[11:42] <Zhenech> they have a full fledged dbus+x testsuite
[11:45] <Quintasan> Zhenech: Thanks
[15:14] <jtaylor> Quintasan: ipython uses xvfb-run for its X tests
[15:56]  * micahg waves to MOTU people
[15:56]  * paultag waves at micahg, for no particular reason
[15:56]  * jtaylor waves from chile
[15:57] <jtaylor> about to go on a 18 hour flight ._.
[15:57] <paultag> jtaylor: oh jeez. Where to>
[15:57] <paultag> />/?/
[15:57] <jtaylor> santiago back to parise then munich
[15:58] <paultag> :)
[15:59] <micahg> MOTU meeting?
[16:00] <jtaylor> oh I might actually have time to attend it for once :)
[16:00] <dholbach> meeting time
[16:00] <dholbach> who wants to chair? I'll be back in 3-4 minutes
[16:01]  * micahg volunteered last time
[16:35]  * jtaylor off to the airport
[16:36] <paultag> kirkland: Did you happen to catch my ping a few days ago?
[16:36] <kirkland> paultag: I did not...
[16:36] <kirkland> paultag: what's up?
[16:37] <paultag> kirkland: I was wondering if you'd considered getting overlayfs into Debian
[16:37] <paultag> (as a module, not part of the default kernel)
[16:37] <kirkland> paultag: is debian carrying the overlayfs module?
[16:37] <paultag> No
[16:39] <kirkland> paultag: so, no, I really haven't considered it, honestly
[16:39] <kirkland> paultag: I don't have anything to do with overlayfs, other than being a user of it, with the overlayroot package
[16:39] <kirkland> paultag: I don't run Debian anywhere, on any hardware or vm's
[16:40] <paultag> OK
[17:11] <mitya57> dholbach: good evening
[17:12] <dholbach> mitya57, in a call right now - how can I help?
[17:12] <mitya57> dholbach: I can wait, I wanted to ask about developer-guide packaging issues
[17:13] <mitya57> thanks for merging my branches btw
[17:13] <dholbach> mitya57, anytime - maybe you could mail Andrew SB about this?
[17:13] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/~andrewsomething
[17:13] <dholbach> he was the last to look into things
[17:13] <mitya57> dholbach: I'll just file a bug then
[17:37] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day everyone
[21:10]  * ajmitch sees he was mentioned by Laney in -meeting earlier
[21:10] <Laney> ajmitch is always on Laney's mind
[21:10] <ajmitch> that's a bit worrying
[21:10] <Laney> ♥
[21:10] <Laney> also, powerpc makes Laney sad
[21:11] <ajmitch> it's faling behind, or is broken?
[21:12] <Laney> the former
[21:12] <Laney> silly private jobs
[21:12] <ajmitch> aha
[21:12] <ajmitch> just convince them to get more ppc buildds
[21:12] <Laney> fix the brokened one
[21:17] <xnox> Laney: well new kernel is borked, so don't touch the working one and fix the kernel.
[21:18] <xnox> or downgrade it?
[21:18] <Laney> what?
[21:18]  * ajmitch wishes he could use a standard kernel on his arm device
[21:19] <Laney> I hope the buildds don't run 'new' kernels (and that SRUs aren't regressing hardware) :P
[21:20]  * micahg sees Laney's keyboard lashing got xnox to join the channel
[21:21] <Laney> \o/
[21:21]  * xnox rumbles something incomprehensible
[21:26] <ajmitch> Laney: SRU's regressing? never
[21:28] <Laney> LA LA LA
[21:33] <lifeless> FINGERS IN EAYRS
[21:53] <Laney> more private jobs!
[21:53]  * Laney affixes a stare in the direction of micahg 
[21:53]  * micahg whistles innocently
[21:55] <ajmitch> Laney: patience...
[21:56] <micahg> Laney: you can fix Bug #1035097 while you're waiting :)
[21:56] <Laney> not one of my strongest attributes
[21:56] <ajmitch> nor mine
[22:49] <gld1982ltd> Hi all...I need help packaging. I want to package lxmed and upload it to my ppa. I am following the instructions on http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html. I'm at the bzr builddeb -- -us -uc command. I keep getting an empty binary package. can anyone help? This is my first time trying to package an Ubuntu package.