[00:43] <jrgifford> Cheri703: am i missing something, or can you export VMs?
[00:43] <Cheri703> hmm...export what/where?
[00:43] <jrgifford> thats the *only* thing that is keeping me from using it across the board.
[00:48] <Cheri703> what do you mean by export?
[00:48] <Cheri703> jrgifford:
[00:49] <Unit193> Save them to a VHD or something I'd say, no?
[01:05] <jrgifford> i can't find the button to export a VM so i could import it into say, virtualbox
[01:28] <Cheri703> sorry I had to change/clean keyboard
[01:28] <Cheri703> uhm, I don't think you can do that? I will check
[01:29] <Cheri703> can you do that with vbox? export out?
[01:29] <Cheri703> and it might need vmware workstation or something higher to do that
[01:39] <Unit193> http://www.sysprobs.com/export-vmware-virtual-machine-ovf-import-virtualbox  ?
[01:41] <jrgifford> i can with vbox.
[01:42] <jrgifford> Unit193:  looking at that now, thanks
[01:43] <jrgifford> ehhhh... i'll just continue using virtualbox.
[01:43] <jrgifford> that just sounds like too much trouble.
[01:43] <Unit193> I've done a touch with Qemu, I'm sure there are better systems...
[01:43] <canthus13> jrgifford: depends on what for. vbox has issues with some stuff I've tried to install... like ubuntu.
[01:48] <Unit193> OpenVZ, depending on what you want....
[01:50] <Unit193> Cheri703: Heh, asking directly. :P
[01:51] <Cheri703> I like the features on vmware player, I don't really need to export
[01:52] <Unit193> Was thinking the Emma/Sys76 part.
[02:06] <Cheri703> ah, yes, why not?
[02:06] <Cheri703> I want to hear from them why they think I should buy from them
[04:18] <canthus13> Cheri703: because they won't yell at you and call you a bad customer for wanting your stuff to work right.
[04:18] <Cheri703> one can only hope >.<
[04:19] <Unit193> Cost a bit more...
[04:20] <canthus13> Cheri703: I like the folks with them that I've met... They seem genuinely interested in how their machines are doing... even the old models.
[04:27] <Cheri703> yeah, I'd want to ask some specific questions, as there's some stuff they don't have on the site
[04:31]  * canthus13 nods.
[04:31]  * canthus13 is just gonna go with the dell outlet. :P
[14:49] <Cheri703> up early and working, like a grownup!
[14:51] <Cheri703> and yes, I realize this isn't early to a lot of people, but it is to me!
[15:10] <paultag> :D
[15:11] <Cheri703> I woke up at 9:30! two days in a row! and got up!
[15:11] <Cheri703> and did stuff!
[15:12] <Cheri703> considering that noon-1 was my usual wake up time before, that is like CRAAAAZY talk
[18:16] <Cheri703> best program to play music from other computer on local network? I don't usually listen to music while on the computer, but I'd like to attempt it. all music is on server, what is the best program for playing that on my current computer?
[18:28] <dzho> not sure I have any answers, but I do have some questions.
[18:28] <Cheri703> ok?
[18:28] <dzho> do you mean to stream the music from the server?
[18:28] <Cheri703> yeah
[18:28] <dzho> or is it just a file server?
[18:28] <Cheri703> well, it is a computer running ubuntu that works as my server
[18:28] <dzho> because if you're streaming, you need two programs, right?  One on the server, one on the client?
[18:28] <Cheri703> I can install crap on it
[18:28] <Cheri703> probably? I have tried to stream media using vlc in the past and it is always a HUGE project and never works :(
[18:29] <dzho> heh, yeah
[18:29] <dzho> I see all these streaming servers and clients when I'm browsing the package repositories.
[18:29] <Cheri703> I like vlc for a lot of things, but...successful streaming is not one of them
[18:29] <dzho> I only ever once put up an icecast server and played with that a bit, but, it was too involved for what I wanted from it at the time.
[18:30] <Cheri703> yeah, I just need LAN streaming
[18:30] <dzho> well, I was wondering about just locally mounting a file share, and then just playing stuff using whatever the heck you want.
[18:31] <dzho> my gut tells me the lan ought to be fast enough for that, but I don't know.
[18:31] <dzho> if it's wireless and your at opposite ends of the house with a refrigerator between you and the access point, maybe not
[18:31] <Cheri703> well, I have it mounted via sftp, I (at one point) had nfs set up, I have no idea what the status of that is right now, I have reinstalled and swapped machines a few times
[18:31] <Cheri703> NEW ROUTER ARRIVING TOMORROW :D
[18:31] <Cheri703> and two gigabit NICs for my two desktops
[18:32] <dzho> anyway, my go-to program for music playing, very lightly used, is the console-oriented mocp
[18:32] <dzho> no streaming or client-server, just straight from the filesystem.
[18:36] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[18:36] <Unit193> Meh, go wtih samba, easy to setup and works crossplatform.  I've setup icecast2, and vlc streaming to it, was pretty nice.
[18:37] <Cheri703> I do have a samba server set up with it so my husband can access it
[18:39] <dzho> I grabbed a Sony set-top box on recommendation of a work aquaintance I hope to set up some time to mount an SMB share.
[18:40] <dzho> I know I could have tried xmbc or myth or whatever, but this thing was cheap and I'm lazy.
[18:40] <dzho> lazy enough that I haven't even gotten this thing out of its box yet.
[18:40] <paultag> I'm thinking of xbmc on my raspi
[18:40] <canthus13> paultag: That's not a bad idea.
[18:40] <paultag> :)
[18:40] <paultag> I'm going to use a HD to sync the Debian archive for a LAN mirror
[18:41] <paultag> might as well put some movies there too, as well as a git-annex