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| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | cremora minora | 06:57 |
|---|---|---|
| charlvn | good morning | 06:58 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 06:58 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 06:58 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 06:58 | |
| Kilos | yo charlvn | 06:58 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 06:58 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 06:58 |
| charlvn | how's it going | 06:58 |
| nuvolari | howdy | 06:59 |
| charlvn | hi nuvolari | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | there be life | 06:59 |
| Kilos | cold and you? | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | hi charlvn | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | more oom Kilos | 06:59 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: please make me some coffee | 06:59 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: Sorry... | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | :-/ | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: coffee please | 06:59 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: Okay | 06:59 |
| charlvn | Kilos: can't say i'm cold, seems like we're in for another hot day, it's already 15 outside | 06:59 |
| Kilos | whew send here | 06:59 |
| nuvolari | it's a pretty nice day here | 07:00 |
| nuvolari | sky-wise, not sure about temperature as I'm wearing a jacket | 07:00 |
| Kilos | lol your blood has change density with all the time you been down there | 07:00 |
| Kilos | cant member if it gets thicker or thinner | 07:01 |
| charlvn | bbl, work | 07:02 |
| charlvn | Maaz: hurry up with that coffee will you? :) | 07:02 |
| Maaz | charlvn: What? | 07:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:02 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn, Kilos and nuvolari! | 07:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks | 07:03 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 07:03 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks! | 07:03 |
| Maaz | charlvn: Sure | 07:03 |
| nuvolari | whoot! thanks Maaz | 07:03 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: thanks | 07:03 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: No problem | 07:03 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: botsnack | 07:03 |
| Maaz | Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well | 07:03 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: hoe werk die night-data nou weer? | 07:05 |
| Kilos | na 1 tot 5 innie oggend | 07:05 |
| Kilos | na 11 | 07:06 |
| nuvolari | @#$%^ | 07:06 |
| nuvolari | oh | 07:06 |
| Kilos | 23.05 | 07:06 |
| nuvolari | jinne | 07:06 |
| nuvolari | lol, ek wou nou net sê ek slaap 01:00 ini oggend | 07:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:06 |
| Kilos | 11 is nie ver weg nie | 07:07 |
| nuvolari | hrr :-/ | 07:09 |
| nuvolari | my muis is vol draadwerk | 07:09 |
| nuvolari | *my draadlose muis is vol draadwerk | 07:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:09 |
| nuvolari | o gits, my koffie word goud | 07:09 |
| nuvolari | er, koud | 07:09 |
| nuvolari | ek is nou terug | 07:09 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 07:38 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 07:38 |
| psydroid | how did yesterday's adventure end? | 07:39 |
| psydroid | are you running ubuntu 12.04 now? | 07:39 |
| Kilos | which one? | 07:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:39 |
| psydroid | haha | 07:40 |
| Kilos | i still cant get usb modem working on 12.04 | 07:40 |
| Kilos | but skis3g connects | 07:40 |
| Kilos | but then emails and mxit dont work | 07:40 |
| psydroid | but it works on 10.04? | 07:40 |
| psydroid | that's weird | 07:41 |
| Kilos | yeah modem works kiff on 10.04 and 11.04 | 07:41 |
| psydroid | do you have any idea what the problem might be? | 07:41 |
| Kilos | something in nm that lets enable mobile broadband to not show all the time | 07:42 |
| Kilos | works with my cell as it shows enable mobile broadband | 07:43 |
| Kilos | but the auto connect function does work either | 07:43 |
| Kilos | so every cut you gotta manual start | 07:44 |
| psydroid | I had some problems with nm on my (now broken) laptop too | 07:54 |
| Kilos | with what releaser | 07:56 |
| Kilos | release | 07:56 |
| Kilos | hi SilverCode | 07:56 |
| psydroid | my network card worked perfectly on 10.04 but on 12.04 it wouldn't connect, so I needed an external USB adapter | 07:56 |
| SilverCode | hi Kilos | 07:56 |
| psydroid | it could be a kernel driver problem too, but I didn't get so far | 07:57 |
| Kilos | there is lots of try this try that at them places | 07:57 |
| Kilos | launchpad i think | 07:57 |
| psydroid | yeah | 07:57 |
| Kilos | or forums | 07:57 |
| Kilos | i tried lots of their scripts etc but nothing worked | 07:57 |
| Kilos | they should just fix nm on 12.04 or bring the one from 10.10 or 11.04 | 07:58 |
| Kilos | 12.04 is 4 months old and still got the prob | 08:00 |
| Kilos | internet connecting should be a priority | 08:00 |
| psydroid | that's why I have them installed side by side, I can't be bothered to find solutions to problems that didn't even occur on previous releases | 08:00 |
| psydroid | things should move forward, not backward | 08:01 |
| psydroid | especially not on LTS versions | 08:01 |
| Kilos | ya | 08:05 |
| Kilos | i wish i was cleverer | 08:05 |
| Kilos | would make the 11.04 nm work on 12.04 | 08:06 |
| Kilos | and remove the 12.04 one | 08:06 |
| psydroid | usually that's not even possible | 08:07 |
| Kilos | yeah but what is different | 08:07 |
| Kilos | same script files isnt it | 08:07 |
| Kilos | similar | 08:07 |
| Kilos | like why keep pumping one wheel that keeps going flat if you have a good spare in the boot | 08:08 |
| psydroid | or you would have to do a lot of coding to make up for the mismatch between library versions that are installed and expected to be installed on your system | 08:08 |
| Kilos | hi Stephan | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 08:09 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 08:09 |
| Kilos | superfly, does kde use the same nm as unity? | 08:10 |
| Stephan | hi Kilos | 08:10 |
| superfly | Kilos: Network Manager has a number of parts | 08:10 |
| superfly | Kilos: so while both KDE and Unity use Network Manager, they don't use the same one | 08:11 |
| Kilos | does the kde one work on usb modem | 08:11 |
| psydroid | hi superfly | 08:13 |
| psydroid | I'm eager to try out the next Ubuntu/Kubuntu daily to see if Wayland is already usable | 08:15 |
| Kilos | Stephan, are you new here? | 08:15 |
| superfly | hi psydroid | 08:16 |
| superfly | psydroid: are they using Wayland from 12.10? | 08:16 |
| psydroid | hi Stephan and Silvercode | 08:16 |
| psydroid | superfly, I think everything should be in place so people can test it in 12.10, I don't think they'll switch until 13.04 or 13.10 | 08:17 |
| psydroid | that's what I read when I was searching for information a few months ago | 08:18 |
| Kilos | yo barns Banlam bakuman | 08:19 |
| Kilos | psydroid, if they remove nm from hiding the enable broadband option then it will work im sure | 08:20 |
| Kilos | also if you lsusb it shows the modem in storage mode so usb-modeswitch isnt working properly | 08:21 |
| psydroid | Kilos, what is the reason for hiding it in the first place? | 08:21 |
| psydroid | oh, so that looks like a problem with kernel drivers | 08:22 |
| Kilos | it seems to be fashionable | 08:22 |
| Kilos | im on 11.04 now here so cant show the output of lsusb | 08:23 |
| Kilos | but its where it shows bbbb:0000 | 08:23 |
| Kilos | it should be bbbb:0017 | 08:23 |
| Kilos | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones | 08:24 |
| Kilos | if we can hack that somehow it will work | 08:24 |
| Kilos | so modeswitch doesnt have to do the deciding | 08:25 |
| psydroid | hmm, I hope someone here knows how to deal with that stuff | 08:26 |
| psydroid | I've never had such an adapter to work with, since I've been on broadband using cable or adsl for more than a decade | 08:27 |
| Kilos | you lucky | 08:28 |
| Kilos | dont you guys have rural areas without cable | 08:28 |
| Kilos | im sure this usb modem thing is gonna lose us lotsa ubuntu followers | 08:29 |
| Kilos | and i dunno how to make modprob find it | 08:37 |
| Kilos | looks like modprobe adds things to the kernel | 08:37 |
| superfly | Kilos: My USB modem has always worked fine in Kubuntu | 08:39 |
| Kilos | even 12.04? | 08:42 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:42 |
| superfly | Kilos: I haven't used it in 12.04 cause I have ADSL\ | 08:43 |
| Kilos | lol lotsa peeps didnt have probs till 12.04 | 08:43 |
| Kilos | internet full of please helps | 08:44 |
| Kilos | does this look like a solution guys | 08:48 |
| Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/126854/problem-connecting-internet-through-usb-modem-micromax | 08:48 |
| Kilos | if so how would one make it a permanent thing not redo after every reboot | 08:49 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: you might be able to set up a udev rule to do that when the modem is inserted | 08:53 |
| Kilos | SilverCode, i dunno how to do them kinda things | 08:54 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: yeah, unfortunately I can't give much more info than that right now. Have all those sorts of scripts on my work machine | 08:55 |
| Kilos | and is the vendor there OMEGA TECHNOLOGY | 08:55 |
| Kilos | np but ty for the advice. someone will tell me how to | 08:55 |
| Kilos | im going back to 12.04 brb | 08:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: pastebin the entire ouput of lsusb for me please? | 09:10 |
| magespawn | Congratulations tumbleweed, approved as ubuntu core developer, from Ubuntu Developer on g+. | 09:31 |
| smile4ever | hi :) | 12:33 |
| smile4ever | hallo :) | 13:05 |
| smile4ever | :p | 13:05 |
| Kilos | hi smile4ever | 13:14 |
| smile4ever | :) | 13:20 |
| Kilos | hmm | 13:38 |
| Kilos | sigh | 14:13 |
| Kilos | looks like i gonna have to install winsucks again | 14:13 |
| Kilos | just to use this method of moding modem | 14:14 |
| Kilos | http://luv2know.wordpress.com/ | 14:14 |
| Kilos | modifying | 14:15 |
| smile4ever | Kilos: No you don't have to :) if you learn programming ^^ | 14:18 |
| smile4ever | :p | 14:18 |
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| magespawn | Evening. | 15:45 |
| Trixar_za | Hey magespawn | 15:49 |
| Cantide | hi ^^ | 15:49 |
| Trixar_za | Kilos: 3G Modem? | 15:49 |
| Trixar_za | Also I'm starting to notice there is several ways to connect using one now | 15:50 |
| magespawn | Hey Trixar_za, cantide | 15:50 |
| Trixar_za | Connman's 3G extension, Network Manager, Saki3G (if you update it a bit for more modems and providers like 8ta) and Betavine | 15:52 |
| Trixar_za | And that's off the top of my head | 15:52 |
| nuvolari | o/ g'evening | 15:57 |
| nuvolari | lo magespawn, Cantide, Trixar_za | 15:57 |
| Trixar_za | GNOME Network Manager, Sakis3G* | 15:57 |
| Trixar_za | :p | 15:57 |
| nuvolari | seems like gnome is going downhill? | 15:58 |
| nuvolari | I hope it's not :-/ | 15:58 |
| Cantide | hi nuvolari :) | 15:59 |
| nuvolari | been my favourite for quite a while | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | There will always be MATE and Cinnamon for joo | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | Even XFCE4 is taking a 'classic' GNOME look | 16:00 |
| magespawn | Hey nuvolari | 16:00 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn Trixar_za smile | 16:00 |
| smile | hi Kilos :p | 16:00 |
| Kilos | yeah Trixar_za sorry i was asleep. head no good today | 16:01 |
| Trixar_za | But yeah, Betavine is the closest you'd get to the Vodafone client on Linux | 16:01 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 16:01 |
| Cantide | hmm | 16:01 |
| Cantide | what's the problem, Kilos ? | 16:01 |
| Kilos | sec im trying to think | 16:01 |
| Kilos | oh ya i cant get it going with nm | 16:02 |
| Kilos | have sakis3g but then no email works or mxit | 16:02 |
| Trixar_za | Read up. You have lots of options :) | 16:02 |
| Trixar_za | Wait. why not? | 16:02 |
| Trixar_za | Actually, better question, what model is the modem? :P | 16:03 |
| Kilos | i read all the stuff int the help places there | 16:03 |
| Trixar_za | I can rebuild sakis3g to be newer atleast | 16:03 |
| Kilos | its an alcatel stc one | 16:03 |
| Kilos | was from saudi arabia but unblocked it | 16:03 |
| nuvolari | yeah, xfce is rocking my boat currently, so I'm happy with it | 16:03 |
| Cantide | oh... | 16:04 |
| Cantide | i see .-. | 16:04 |
| Kilos | i am using 11.04 now and it works fine | 16:04 |
| smile | Kilos: cool :) | 16:04 |
| Kilos | its in the nm dropdown window it doesnt show enable mobilebroadband on 12.04 | 16:05 |
| Kilos | also if i go lsusb it shows the modem in storage mode | 16:05 |
| Kilos | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones | 16:06 |
| Kilos | but on releases before 12.04 usb-modeswitch sorted that | 16:06 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, but usb-modeswitch-data has some errors :/ | 16:08 |
| Trixar_za | To make it work with NM, you need to have the damn thing switched | 16:08 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:08 |
| Kilos | did you look at the link i left here | 16:09 |
| Kilos | oh my was i still on 12.04 | 16:09 |
| Trixar_za | The askubuntu one? | 16:09 |
| Kilos | no | 16:09 |
| Kilos | where i said i gotta install windows | 16:10 |
| Trixar_za | That's bad advice. You must use option instead of usbserial | 16:10 |
| Kilos | http://luv2know.wordpress.com/ | 16:10 |
| Trixar_za | usbserial has a buffer limit | 16:10 |
| Trixar_za | where option does not | 16:10 |
| Kilos | didnt that say you can get a program to change the switch thin in the modem itself | 16:11 |
| Kilos | product id you change | 16:12 |
| Kilos | then it wont be seen as storage isnt it?? | 16:12 |
| Trixar_za | Yes, when most modem switch their product id change | 16:12 |
| Trixar_za | That's what you normally use usb_modeswitch fore | 16:13 |
| Trixar_za | Hell, it's what I sometimes use sakis3g for - just to switch it :P | 16:13 |
| Kilos | ya i member when i first went to the modem | 16:13 |
| Trixar_za | Then I dial up using gnome-ppp | 16:13 |
| Kilos | do you just type in gnome-ppp | 16:14 |
| Kilos | the answer would be to block the storage in the modem then nm will work again surely | 16:15 |
| Kilos | ive lost sound here on 11.04 thats why i never heard you guys | 16:16 |
| Kilos | oh my | 16:17 |
| Trixar_za | No you need to install gnome-ppp and you probably need to run it as root to work properly. For some reason if the user isn't in the right group, they can't dialup | 16:19 |
| Kilos | ok ill try that. see you now now on 12.04 | 16:20 |
| Trixar_za | Oh right, Ubuntu comes with Sudo | 16:22 |
| Trixar_za | I keep forgetting :/ | 16:23 |
| smile | Trixar_za: if you keep forgetting in a terminal, type sudo su | 16:25 |
| smile | after that you don't have to use sudo anymore, as long as the terminal stays open | 16:26 |
| smile | :p | 16:26 |
| Trixar_za | Nah, it's just that SliTaz doesn't come with it pre-installed | 16:26 |
| Trixar_za | so I have gotten in the habit of explaining around using Sudo | 16:26 |
| smile | I see :) | 16:26 |
| smile | sudo is maybe 0.5 mb, that's too much for slitaz | 16:27 |
| Trixar_za | No and my fork will probably have it | 16:27 |
| Trixar_za | If I ever get a proper connection to make it :P | 16:27 |
| smile | lol. :p | 16:27 |
| smile | bye :) | 16:29 |
| Trixar_za | Bye smile | 16:29 |
| smile | good night :) | 16:29 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, sorry to worry you. gnome-ppp needs some info i dunn | 16:51 |
| Kilos | dunno either | 16:51 |
| Kilos | dial command | 16:52 |
| Kilos | have *99# and says its invalid | 16:52 |
| Trixar_za | *99# works for me. So does the username internet and password 12345 | 16:53 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 16:53 |
| Trixar_za | But you need to setup the device it uses | 16:53 |
| Trixar_za | Under setup | 16:53 |
| Kilos | that where i put *99# | 16:54 |
| Trixar_za | For my cellphone it's /dev/ttyACM0 and for my 3G Modem it's /dev/ttyUSB3 | 16:54 |
| Kilos | miny is /dev/ttyUSB2 | 16:54 |
| Trixar_za | I use sakis3g to switch the modem, so it does the whole device setup and everything and gives me a device to work with | 16:55 |
| Trixar_za | http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz <--- my copy of Sakis3g | 16:56 |
| Kilos | ATM1L3DT*99# | 16:56 |
| Kilos | GNOME PPP: STDERR: ERROR | 16:56 |
| Kilos | GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Invalid dial command. | 16:56 |
| Kilos | i think its the dialup string thing thats wrong | 16:56 |
| Kilos | i got your sakis3g but need to work how to install it, other one i did with wget commands from their site | 16:57 |
| Trixar_za | --> Modem initialized. | 16:58 |
| Trixar_za | --> Sending: ATM0L0DP*99# | 16:58 |
| Trixar_za | Just right click and extract it | 16:58 |
| Trixar_za | The just run it. It will ask for root permission as it needs it | 16:58 |
| Trixar_za | It's a normal bash script | 16:58 |
| Trixar_za | Comes with usb_modeswitch built in | 16:58 |
| Kilos | --> Modem initialized. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | --> Sending: ATM1L3DT*99# | 16:59 |
| Kilos | --> Waiting for carrier. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | ATM1L3DT*99# | 16:59 |
| Kilos | ERROR | 17:00 |
| Kilos | GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Invalid dial command. | 17:00 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, what must i right click? | 17:05 |
| Trixar_za | the sakis3g.gz file and extract it | 17:05 |
| Trixar_za | Doubling clicking should pop up a dialog box in Ubuntu. If it doesn't, try running it from a terminal | 17:06 |
| Kilos | oh. this gnome-ppp sees the modem just needs to know how or where to dial *99# | 17:06 |
| Kilos | read up 10 | 17:07 |
| Trixar_za | Sakis3g is probably the easiest since it does most of the work for you | 17:10 |
| Trixar_za | Shame about it not being updated in 2 years | 17:11 |
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| zeref | whoah, anybody watch the 200m | 20:48 |
| nuvolari | aw :'( sunette missed bronze by 40cm | 21:14 |
| nuvolari | @#$% now I'm going to have a bad night's rest | 21:15 |
| nuvolari | 'night | 21:15 |
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