=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:57] cremora minora [06:58] good morning [06:58] hi Kilos [06:58] Maaz: coffee on [06:58] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [06:58] yo charlvn [06:58] Maaz, coffee please [06:58] Kilos: Alrighty [06:58] how's it going [06:59] howdy [06:59] hi nuvolari [06:59] there be life [06:59] cold and you? [06:59] hi charlvn [06:59] more oom Kilos [06:59] lo nuvolari [06:59] Maaz: please make me some coffee [06:59] nuvolari: Sorry... [06:59] :-/ [06:59] Maaz: coffee please [06:59] nuvolari: Okay [06:59] Kilos: can't say i'm cold, seems like we're in for another hot day, it's already 15 outside [06:59] whew send here [07:00] it's a pretty nice day here [07:00] sky-wise, not sure about temperature as I'm wearing a jacket [07:00] lol your blood has change density with all the time you been down there [07:01] cant member if it gets thicker or thinner [07:02] bbl, work [07:02] Maaz: hurry up with that coffee will you? :) [07:02] charlvn: What? [07:02] lol [07:02] Coffee's ready for charlvn, Kilos and nuvolari! [07:03] Maaz, thanks [07:03] Kilos: Sure [07:03] Maaz: thanks! [07:03] charlvn: Sure [07:03] whoot! thanks Maaz [07:03] Maaz: thanks [07:03] nuvolari: No problem [07:03] Maaz: botsnack [07:03] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [07:05] Kilos: hoe werk die night-data nou weer? [07:05] na 1 tot 5 innie oggend [07:06] na 11 [07:06] @#$%^ [07:06] oh [07:06] 23.05 [07:06] jinne [07:06] lol, ek wou nou net sê ek slaap 01:00 ini oggend [07:06] lol [07:07] 11 is nie ver weg nie [07:09] hrr :-/ [07:09] my muis is vol draadwerk [07:09] *my draadlose muis is vol draadwerk [07:09] lol [07:09] o gits, my koffie word goud [07:09] er, koud [07:09] ek is nou terug [07:38] hi psydroid [07:38] hi Kilos [07:39] how did yesterday's adventure end? [07:39] are you running ubuntu 12.04 now? [07:39] which one? [07:39] lol [07:40] haha [07:40] i still cant get usb modem working on 12.04 [07:40] but skis3g connects [07:40] but then emails and mxit dont work [07:40] but it works on 10.04? [07:41] that's weird [07:41] yeah modem works kiff on 10.04 and 11.04 [07:41] do you have any idea what the problem might be? [07:42] something in nm that lets enable mobile broadband to not show all the time [07:43] works with my cell as it shows enable mobile broadband [07:43] but the auto connect function does work either [07:44] so every cut you gotta manual start [07:54] I had some problems with nm on my (now broken) laptop too [07:56] with what releaser [07:56] release [07:56] hi SilverCode [07:56] my network card worked perfectly on 10.04 but on 12.04 it wouldn't connect, so I needed an external USB adapter [07:56] hi Kilos [07:57] it could be a kernel driver problem too, but I didn't get so far [07:57] there is lots of try this try that at them places [07:57] launchpad i think [07:57] yeah [07:57] or forums [07:57] i tried lots of their scripts etc but nothing worked [07:58] they should just fix nm on 12.04 or bring the one from 10.10 or 11.04 [08:00] 12.04 is 4 months old and still got the prob [08:00] internet connecting should be a priority [08:00] that's why I have them installed side by side, I can't be bothered to find solutions to problems that didn't even occur on previous releases [08:01] things should move forward, not backward [08:01] especially not on LTS versions [08:05] ya [08:05] i wish i was cleverer [08:06] would make the 11.04 nm work on 12.04 [08:06] and remove the 12.04 one [08:07] usually that's not even possible [08:07] yeah but what is different [08:07] same script files isnt it [08:07] similar [08:08] like why keep pumping one wheel that keeps going flat if you have a good spare in the boot [08:08] or you would have to do a lot of coding to make up for the mismatch between library versions that are installed and expected to be installed on your system [08:09] hi Stephan [08:09] hi superfly [08:09] hi Kilos [08:10] superfly, does kde use the same nm as unity? [08:10] hi Kilos [08:10] Kilos: Network Manager has a number of parts [08:11] Kilos: so while both KDE and Unity use Network Manager, they don't use the same one [08:11] does the kde one work on usb modem [08:13] hi superfly [08:15] I'm eager to try out the next Ubuntu/Kubuntu daily to see if Wayland is already usable [08:15] Stephan, are you new here? [08:16] hi psydroid [08:16] psydroid: are they using Wayland from 12.10? [08:16] hi Stephan and Silvercode [08:17] superfly, I think everything should be in place so people can test it in 12.10, I don't think they'll switch until 13.04 or 13.10 [08:18] that's what I read when I was searching for information a few months ago [08:19] yo barns Banlam bakuman [08:20] psydroid, if they remove nm from hiding the enable broadband option then it will work im sure [08:21] also if you lsusb it shows the modem in storage mode so usb-modeswitch isnt working properly [08:21] Kilos, what is the reason for hiding it in the first place? [08:22] oh, so that looks like a problem with kernel drivers [08:22] it seems to be fashionable [08:23] im on 11.04 now here so cant show the output of lsusb [08:23] but its where it shows bbbb:0000 [08:23] it should be bbbb:0017 [08:24] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones [08:24] if we can hack that somehow it will work [08:25] so modeswitch doesnt have to do the deciding [08:26] hmm, I hope someone here knows how to deal with that stuff [08:27] I've never had such an adapter to work with, since I've been on broadband using cable or adsl for more than a decade [08:28] you lucky [08:28] dont you guys have rural areas without cable [08:29] im sure this usb modem thing is gonna lose us lotsa ubuntu followers [08:37] and i dunno how to make modprob find it [08:37] looks like modprobe adds things to the kernel [08:39] Kilos: My USB modem has always worked fine in Kubuntu [08:42] even 12.04? [08:42] whew [08:43] Kilos: I haven't used it in 12.04 cause I have ADSL\ [08:43] lol lotsa peeps didnt have probs till 12.04 [08:44] internet full of please helps [08:48] does this look like a solution guys [08:48] http://askubuntu.com/questions/126854/problem-connecting-internet-through-usb-modem-micromax [08:49] if so how would one make it a permanent thing not redo after every reboot [08:53] Kilos: you might be able to set up a udev rule to do that when the modem is inserted [08:54] SilverCode, i dunno how to do them kinda things [08:55] Kilos: yeah, unfortunately I can't give much more info than that right now. Have all those sorts of scripts on my work machine [08:55] and is the vendor there OMEGA TECHNOLOGY [08:55] np but ty for the advice. someone will tell me how to [08:57] im going back to 12.04 brb [09:10] Kilos: pastebin the entire ouput of lsusb for me please? [09:31] Congratulations tumbleweed, approved as ubuntu core developer, from Ubuntu Developer on g+. [12:33] hi :) [13:05] hallo :) [13:05] :p [13:14] hi smile4ever [13:20] :) [13:38] hmm [14:13] sigh [14:13] looks like i gonna have to install winsucks again [14:14] just to use this method of moding modem [14:14] http://luv2know.wordpress.com/ [14:15] modifying [14:18] Kilos: No you don't have to :) if you learn programming ^^ [14:18] :p === smile4ever is now known as smile === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:45] Evening. [15:49] Hey magespawn [15:49] hi ^^ [15:49] Kilos: 3G Modem? [15:50] Also I'm starting to notice there is several ways to connect using one now [15:50] Hey Trixar_za, cantide [15:52] Connman's 3G extension, Network Manager, Saki3G (if you update it a bit for more modems and providers like 8ta) and Betavine [15:52] And that's off the top of my head [15:57] o/ g'evening [15:57] lo magespawn, Cantide, Trixar_za [15:57] GNOME Network Manager, Sakis3G* [15:57] :p [15:58] seems like gnome is going downhill? [15:58] I hope it's not :-/ [15:59] hi nuvolari :) [15:59] been my favourite for quite a while [15:59] There will always be MATE and Cinnamon for joo [16:00] Even XFCE4 is taking a 'classic' GNOME look [16:00] Hey nuvolari [16:00] hi magespawn Trixar_za smile [16:00] hi Kilos :p [16:01] yeah Trixar_za sorry i was asleep. head no good today [16:01] But yeah, Betavine is the closest you'd get to the Vodafone client on Linux [16:01] :P [16:01] hmm [16:01] what's the problem, Kilos ? [16:01] sec im trying to think [16:02] oh ya i cant get it going with nm [16:02] have sakis3g but then no email works or mxit [16:02] Read up. You have lots of options :) [16:02] Wait. why not? [16:03] Actually, better question, what model is the modem? :P [16:03] i read all the stuff int the help places there [16:03] I can rebuild sakis3g to be newer atleast [16:03] its an alcatel stc one [16:03] was from saudi arabia but unblocked it [16:03] yeah, xfce is rocking my boat currently, so I'm happy with it [16:04] oh... [16:04] i see .-. [16:04] i am using 11.04 now and it works fine [16:04] Kilos: cool :) [16:05] its in the nm dropdown window it doesnt show enable mobilebroadband on 12.04 [16:05] also if i go lsusb it shows the modem in storage mode [16:06] Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones [16:06] but on releases before 12.04 usb-modeswitch sorted that [16:08] Yeah, but usb-modeswitch-data has some errors :/ [16:08] To make it work with NM, you need to have the damn thing switched [16:08] oh [16:09] did you look at the link i left here [16:09] oh my was i still on 12.04 [16:09] The askubuntu one? [16:09] no [16:10] where i said i gotta install windows [16:10] That's bad advice. You must use option instead of usbserial [16:10] http://luv2know.wordpress.com/ [16:10] usbserial has a buffer limit [16:10] where option does not [16:11] didnt that say you can get a program to change the switch thin in the modem itself [16:12] product id you change [16:12] then it wont be seen as storage isnt it?? [16:12] Yes, when most modem switch their product id change [16:13] That's what you normally use usb_modeswitch fore [16:13] Hell, it's what I sometimes use sakis3g for - just to switch it :P [16:13] ya i member when i first went to the modem [16:13] Then I dial up using gnome-ppp [16:14] do you just type in gnome-ppp [16:15] the answer would be to block the storage in the modem then nm will work again surely [16:16] ive lost sound here on 11.04 thats why i never heard you guys [16:17] oh my [16:19] No you need to install gnome-ppp and you probably need to run it as root to work properly. For some reason if the user isn't in the right group, they can't dialup [16:20] ok ill try that. see you now now on 12.04 [16:22] Oh right, Ubuntu comes with Sudo [16:23] I keep forgetting :/ [16:25] Trixar_za: if you keep forgetting in a terminal, type sudo su [16:26] after that you don't have to use sudo anymore, as long as the terminal stays open [16:26] :p [16:26] Nah, it's just that SliTaz doesn't come with it pre-installed [16:26] so I have gotten in the habit of explaining around using Sudo [16:26] I see :) [16:27] sudo is maybe 0.5 mb, that's too much for slitaz [16:27] No and my fork will probably have it [16:27] If I ever get a proper connection to make it :P [16:27] lol. :p [16:29] bye :) [16:29] Bye smile [16:29] good night :) [16:51] Trixar_za, sorry to worry you. gnome-ppp needs some info i dunn [16:51] dunno either [16:52] dial command [16:52] have *99# and says its invalid [16:53] *99# works for me. So does the username internet and password 12345 [16:53] :P [16:53] But you need to setup the device it uses [16:53] Under setup [16:54] that where i put *99# [16:54] For my cellphone it's /dev/ttyACM0 and for my 3G Modem it's /dev/ttyUSB3 [16:54] miny is /dev/ttyUSB2 [16:55] I use sakis3g to switch the modem, so it does the whole device setup and everything and gives me a device to work with [16:56] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz <--- my copy of Sakis3g [16:56] ATM1L3DT*99# [16:56] GNOME PPP: STDERR: ERROR [16:56] GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Invalid dial command. [16:56] i think its the dialup string thing thats wrong [16:57] i got your sakis3g but need to work how to install it, other one i did with wget commands from their site [16:58] --> Modem initialized. [16:58] --> Sending: ATM0L0DP*99# [16:58] Just right click and extract it [16:58] The just run it. It will ask for root permission as it needs it [16:58] It's a normal bash script [16:58] Comes with usb_modeswitch built in [16:59] --> Modem initialized. [16:59] --> Sending: ATM1L3DT*99# [16:59] --> Waiting for carrier. [16:59] ATM1L3DT*99# [17:00] ERROR [17:00] GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Invalid dial command. [17:05] Trixar_za, what must i right click? [17:05] the sakis3g.gz file and extract it [17:06] Doubling clicking should pop up a dialog box in Ubuntu. If it doesn't, try running it from a terminal [17:06] oh. this gnome-ppp sees the modem just needs to know how or where to dial *99# [17:07] read up 10 [17:10] Sakis3g is probably the easiest since it does most of the work for you [17:11] Shame about it not being updated in 2 years === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [20:48] whoah, anybody watch the 200m [21:14] aw :'( sunette missed bronze by 40cm [21:15] @#$% now I'm going to have a bad night's rest [21:15] 'night === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za