[00:40] <jcgalue> quien me ayuda un poquito con xubuntu 12.04?
[00:40] <bazhang> !es | jcgalue
[02:02] <aicasn> why does tumblerd fire off a ton of qtdemux:sink threads when i copy a video file?
[02:04] <aicasn> was very annoying. kept me from umounting the drive
[02:04] <aicasn> bad bad tumblerd
[03:18] <deitrick> why is this not default in irc?
[03:18] <Maccer> I too wonder that.
[03:19] <Unit193> Hmmm?
[03:19] <Maccer> Also, does anyone happen to know where the system-wide configurations are stored for the xfce-panel?  I want to change the color, mouseover color, and what not
[03:20] <deitrick> in -settings-settings manager ?
[03:21] <deitrick> in the menu?
[03:21] <Maccer> I tried it, couldn't find anything.
[03:21] <Maccer> Nothing on color schemes.
[03:21] <Maccer> I've also looked into greybird's theme.
[03:21] <deitrick> try hidden files in home dir
[03:23] <Maccer> There's tons.  If some one happens to know which one is responsible for the scheme, tell me
[03:23] <deitrick> in /.config/xfce maybe?
[03:24] <Maccer> Already looked there
[03:24] <deitrick> what do you want to do?
[03:24] <Maccer> Just change the color scheme.  Actually I found a background-color property...
[03:24] <Unit193> Generally it's made so each user can chose their own.
[03:25] <Maccer> I mean, I can change the panel background color, but I can't change the mouse over and other things
[03:25] <deitrick> like the theme?
[03:25] <Maccer> Kind of.  The theme has no configuration files for the panel color though
[03:26] <deitrick> you can put it as an image it says. So perhaps make an image that is the color you want.
[03:28] <Maccer> I don't understand.
[03:29] <deitrick> in the menu go to /settings/settings manager
[03:29] <deitrick> go to apperance
[03:30] <Maccer> Not sure what to find.  Nothing about the panel2's or panel color schemes in general
[03:30] <Maccer> Oh wait, maybe icons control color schemes?  Bleh
[03:33] <deitrick> wait! I figured it out. right click on panel, go to panel prefrences, then apperance. Then you can set the colour with 3 bars.
[03:33] <Maccer> No I see that, but it doesn't control the mouse over color schemes and what not. :P
[03:34] <deitrick> mouse over color schemes?
[03:34] <Maccer> When you mouse over a tabbed window for example
[03:35] <Maccer> Or the window you happen to be focused on, the tab has a different scheme
[03:35] <deitrick> I have no idea :(
[03:35] <Maccer> it's ok. <3
[03:38] <Maccer> Hrm, maybe the gtkrc is borrowing a theme style?
[03:42] <Unit193> Settings manager > Window manager
[03:45]  * Maccer shakes his head
[03:53] <Maccer> I don't understand this gtk shade property.  Is this used to blend the color with black or something?
[03:54] <Maccer> Oh well, off to the #gtk channel I go then.
[03:54] <trickyhero> good luck
[03:56] <Maccer> Won't be necessary because no one is really there anyways, lulz.
[04:09] <Maccer> Yeah gtkrc doesn't do anything to change the panel color.  I don't understand this craziness.
[04:21] <Colonel> Hey
[04:21] <Unit193> Howdy.
[04:21] <Colonel> Having trouble with an install
[04:21] <Maccer> o/
[04:21] <Colonel> my motherboard is an ASUS P8Z77-V
[04:21] <Colonel> it locks up right at the "Choose a Language" screen
[04:22] <Colonel> the machine becomes totally unresponsive
[04:22] <Colonel> I've checked the disk
[04:22] <Colonel> I've tried LiveCDs of other distrosa
[04:23] <Maccer> Yeah, looks like you're not the only one.
[04:23] <Colonel> I can boot into a Live environment, but the installer always locks up right at the start
[04:23] <Maccer> Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't work either?  Magic SysRQ?
[04:23] <Unit193> You could always try the alternate installer.
[04:24] <Colonel>  I'm trying it now
[04:24] <Maccer> Yeah, that's what I would suggest
[04:24] <Colonel> no dice
[04:25] <Maccer> One thing I noticed though, this isn't an amd/intel or chipset thing.  Are you using an out of the ordinary keyboard?  This is just speculation though.
[04:25] <Colonel> when I Ctrl-Alt-F1, the screen goes black and the machine locks up right away
[04:26] <Colonel> It's a wireless USB keyboard...
[04:26] <Maccer> That's the thing, when you do ctrl+alt+f1, it's supposed to open up a virtual terminal.  I guess that's indication the kernel hasn't crashed yet.
[04:26] <Maccer> Mmh... have any other keyboards at home?  (Again, pure speculation.)  Maybe the driver/kernel locks up when it tries to detect your keyboard interface
[04:26] <Colonel> It's not a CLI though. It just goes black. The HDD activity LED is on steady though
[04:27] <Colonel> I have a wired USB kb
[04:27] <Colonel> should I try that?
[04:27] <gatton> anyone have a dropbox account? i'm gonna create one and if you send me a referral we'll both get 500mb additional space
[04:27] <Unit193> I have one. :P
[04:27] <Maccer> I suppose.  Also, the ACPI driver for your chipset could be bugging.  You could add acpi=off to your installation parameters.
[04:28] <Colonel> I've been using the wireless kb/m setup to install various Linux distros for years with no incident
[04:28] <gatton> unit193 you are the winner. i'll msg you my email
[04:28] <Maccer> (You can do this I think by pressing F6 when it tries to prompt a language)
[04:28] <Colonel> Hold on... I'll try
[04:30] <Maccer> You could also try it along with nomodeset with F6 (other options)
[04:31] <Colonel> keyboard made no difference
[04:31] <Maccer> What about acpi=off in F6?
[04:31] <Colonel> it locked up even before getting to the language screen
[04:32] <Colonel> hold on... trying shutting off ACPI
[04:34] <Maccer> You could also of course come into #linux as this is obviously a lower-level problem.  Also, does your motherboard have an onboard wireless lan controller?
[04:34] <Maccer> Because your chipset is definitely supported. (Intel Z77)
[04:37] <Colonel> it appears to be working with acpi=off
[04:38] <Maccer> !
[04:38] <Colonel> what does that do, exactly?
[04:38] <Colonel> is it something to do with the video chipset?
[04:38] <Maccer> Some standardized power management interface.
[04:39] <Colonel> Hmmm... what shall I name this machine?
[04:39] <Colonel> GLaDOS?
[04:39] <Colonel> W.O.P.R.?
[04:39] <Colonel> Gibson?
[04:39] <Colonel> Wintermute?
[04:40] <Maccer> It's used for power management and device configuration.  On a desktop, it isn't necessary that you have it.  In-fact, you can probably turn it off in your motherboard BIOS.  However if this was a laptop, I'd be more worried.
[04:40] <Colonel> I didn't see an option to turn it off in the BIOS
[04:40] <Maccer> But uhh... when you install it.  You'll probably have to change your boot options to acpi=off too.  And you'll have to edit your boot menu later on.
[04:41] <Maccer> Any options related to it at all?  On my EVGA motherboard I could change the protocol compatibility.  It's ACPI isn't fully compatible with mine but it still booted.
[04:41] <Colonel> Nothing that I could see
[04:42] <Colonel> I even checked in the Power Management settings
[04:42] <Colonel> maybe I missed it
[04:42] <Colonel> I have a hackintosh here that I built, and that was an issue with getting OSX to run
[04:43] <Colonel> but that's built on a Gigabyte motherboard, not an ASUS
[04:43] <Maccer> But windows works on the computer you were having issues with?
[04:43] <Colonel> Dunno
[04:44] <Colonel> I haven't tried installing Windows on it
[04:44] <Colonel> Why the hell would I?
[04:44] <Maccer> lolidunnolulz
[04:44] <Colonel> It's a nice computer. Why mess it all up?
[04:44] <Maccer> Because you don't have ACPI enabled, I don't think you'll be able to go into sleep mode and some other power options.
[04:45] <Maccer> I don't know, hope this isn't a severe hardware problem.  On my old laptop, the ACPI bugging was a symptom of something else
[04:46] <Maccer> I'm not sure if ACPI is effected by power supplies, but it could be
[04:46] <Colonel> What exactly is the issue with ACPI?
[04:47] <Maccer> With your asus desktop?  Who knows.  Hell, I'm not even sure how you'll be able to test or debug acpi with your system locking up.  By the way, we never figured out if the magic sysrq keys worked on it...
[04:48] <Maccer> Oh well, if you want to bother.  You could ask the uhh... "experts" on linux what you can do to debug acpi on your freezing asus.
[04:48] <Colonel> Well it's going into a rack cabinet
[04:49] <Colonel> Maybe I'll just put FreeBSD/FreeNAS on it and make it my storage machine
[04:49] <Colonel> then get another mobo to build my main Linux box on
[04:50] <Maccer> Actually, speaking of which ACPI works oddly on linux for me.  I can't resume from a suspend/sleep properly.
[04:50] <Colonel> Heh
[04:50] <Colonel> I never noticed any particular problems with the sleep
[04:50] <Colonel> my machine usually just runs all the time
[04:51] <Colonel> the hard drives and monitor will shut off, but the machine never turns off
[06:57] <Maccer> So has anyone here been able to run gnomenu?
[07:12] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know what interface is to graphically remove a ppa?
[07:12] <Maccer> Sysi?
[08:01] <ouyes> what do you think is the most valuable certificate in the information technology industry?
[08:13] <TheSheep> root certificate for ssl
[08:16] <TheSheep> Maccer: system -> software sources
[08:17] <Maccer> TheSheep:  Sorry, I should have said that I got it working.  It was removed for some reason and I asked out of heavy frustration, lol.
[08:17] <TheSheep> you can also go to synaptic and remove it from there
[08:18] <TheSheep> from settings->repositories
[11:36] <shuerhaaken> Hi all! Standard ubuntu seems to refuse to use the "org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1" dbus interface of the thumbnailing standard. Does anybody know what they are using for thumbnailing instead of tumbler? Seems I can't get a reply on other ubuntu channels.
[13:25] <deitrick> Guys, schouldn't we have a gui firewall utility installed by default? I just realized my ports were all open and got one.
[13:27] <Sysi> firewall is basically useless, can't do anythong with ports that don't have anything listening and the ones that have need to be open anyway
[13:27] <Pici> Despite all ports being open by default, there isn't anything listening on those ports.
[13:28] <deitrick> ok. so its fine to not have a firewall, thats good.
[21:16] <aguitel> how install somthing like alacarte in xfce ?
[21:30] <David-A> aguitel: if i recall correctly, nothing like alacarte in xfce, but you can choose two different sessions at login that gives two different menu structures
[21:32] <aguitel> i have only one session in login
[21:34] <drc> alacarte, the GNOME menu editor?  What's wrong with Main Menu ?
[21:36] <David-A> aguitel: in login screen should be an option "xfce session" or "xubuntu session"
[21:38] <aguitel> David-A, ok
[21:40] <Unit193> drc: Same thing, actually, and that's only in 12.10, right?
[21:41] <Unit193> alacarte works in xubuntu, just need --no-install-recommends and need to pull in something that's listed aws rec but is a dep.
[21:52] <David-A> aguitel: in xubuntu 12.04 alacarte works and installed by default, settings>main menu, or rightclick menu>properties>edit menu