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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1010966] KDM doesn't allow login into Unity, Gnome3, Unity 2D... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1010966 (by Tommy_CZ)05:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1010966 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDM doesn't allow login into Unity, Gnome3, Unity 2D..." [Undecided,Expired]05:10
ScottKshadeslayer: Really?06:47
ScottKvirtuoso-opensource 6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1~ppa106:47
ScottKBad version on something meant for the archive or PPA package accidentally in the main archive?06:47
mikhasmoin^208:00
RiddellScottK: my fault09:05
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Darkwingafiestas_: ping11:49
afiestas_Darkwing: pong11:49
Darkwingafiestas_: you have Quatzel builds for https://launchpad.net/webaccounts ?11:50
afiestas_no idea11:50
Darkwing:D11:50
DarkwingOkay11:50
DarkwingI just noticed that https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/webaccounts-daily was only building for Precise.11:50
afiestas_then I guess I do not11:51
RiddellDarkwing: tick the quantal box!11:52
Riddellyou know you want to11:52
DarkwingRiddell: Yeah yeah yeah... Just did. :D11:53
Riddellforums positive about 4.9 http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=10728711:56
Peace- Riddell wanna a bug?11:58
Peace-hehhehe11:58
Peace-run k3b and it will ask you  for mp3 encoder11:58
Peace-close k3b and reopen it 11:59
Peace-it will ask for mp3 encoder again11:59
RiddellPeace-: hmm yes12:00
Peace-Riddell: i have  already installed btw http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/plasma-desktopQ17248.png12:02
Peace-Riddell: it does in 12.04 and 12.1012:02
Darkwingohhhhhhhh jsut wonderful. webaccounts failed to build on quantal12:08
Darkwinghttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/112404758/buildlog.txt.gz12:08
Darkwingbuggerface12:08
RiddellPeace-: a mystery, fancy reporting a bug?12:11
Peace-Riddell: right now i am working on FFmpeg service menu :D i am at end i guess12:23
DarkwingDang it...12:42
DarkwingDesktop AND server broke in the move. *sigh*12:43
RiddellDarkwing: careless baggage handlers?12:44
DarkwingRiddell: I guess... :/12:45
RiddellPeace-: mm, it's because it's looking for /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0.md5sums but the file is now /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0:i386.md5sums12:46
RiddellDarkwing: broke bad?12:47
DarkwingRiddell: oh yeah.12:47
DarkwingRiddell: cracked case, m-board messed up...12:48
Darkwingthe HDs are good.12:48
DarkwingSo, that's a plus12:48
Riddellhum12:48
Riddellit's america, sue them!12:48
DarkwingRiddell: ROFL! It takes money to do that :/12:48
Darkwingand I'm still unemployed and broke.12:49
Peace-Riddell: good12:52
Riddellit takes money to sue people?  that seems the wrong way around12:52
RiddellPeace-: what does   ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0*  give you ?12:53
Peace-Riddell: one second12:55
DarkwingRiddell: It's the old, must have money to make money thing.12:55
DarkwingPlus... I don't believe in the random suing of people.12:56
Peace-Riddell: here it is http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/plasma-desktopU17248.png12:56
Peace-symbolic link to fix this ?12:57
ScottKRiddell: Do you have the Amarok arm* FTBFS on your list?  Our arm* live FS builds will fail until it's fixed.13:05
RiddellScottK: hmm no, I hadn't seen it thanks13:07
ScottKRiddell: I already mashed the retry button once and it didn't help, FYI.13:07
RiddellScottK: nah some file isn't compiled there13:08
ScottKapachelogger_, debfx, jtechidna, Quintasan_, and shadeslayer: Ping re access to the updated armhf box (see kubuntu-devel ML).13:31
debfxScottK: can't you copy the shadow entries?13:35
ScottKI don't think I got the UIDs the same when I created the users.13:36
ScottKI guess I could have.13:36
debfxthe shadow file doesn't store UIDs13:38
ScottKOK.13:39
debfxI haven't actually tried copying shadow entries to other machines but I don't see why it shouldn't work13:39
jtechidnaScottK: pong. but I don't think I had an account on the old box13:40
ScottKYou did.13:40
jtechidnaoh :D13:40
ScottKThat doesn't mean you used it, of course.13:40
jtechidnaright13:40
jtechidnayeah, I don't think I did13:40
* Quintasan_ reads13:41
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QuintasanScottK: So, did you copy shadow entries?13:43
ScottKDoing now.13:44
Quintasanok13:44
ScottKdebfx: I copied your entry over.13:45
debfxScottK: debfx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.13:47
ScottKdebfx: You are now.  Please logout/in and try again.13:48
Riddellnaughty boy13:48
debfxScottK: I still get the error13:49
ScottKdebfx: Try again.13:49
debfxScottK: yep works now. thanks13:50
* ScottK copies more shadow entries.13:50
ScottKDone.14:05
Peace-guys there is a big problem here14:34
Peace-i mean the ffmpeg made from libav deves is deprecated14:34
ScottKWhat do you mean by that?14:34
Peace-ScottK: it sasys to use avconv14:35
ScottKWhat does?14:35
Peace-ffmpeg version 0.8.3-4:0.8.3-0ubuntu3, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers14:35
Peace-  built on Jul 30 2012 22:10:17 with gcc 4.7.114:35
Peace-*** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***14:35
Peace-This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.14:35
Peace-but doesn't recognize ffmpeg options 14:36
Peace-what's the point to use this ? 14:36
jtechidnahttp://libav.org/index.html#fftools_rename14:37
Peace-btw there is a waay to install the true ffmpeg on ubuntu or not?14:37
Peace-i mean i can compile and there is not problem at all14:37
ScottKIt's a change withing libav, not a replacement for it.14:37
Peace-but ...14:37
ScottKI'm sure you can, but it's completely unsupported.14:37
ScottKUbuntu gets it's ffmpeg/libav from Debian and they're using libav.14:38
ScottKSince they have developers that are deeply involved in the upstream issues, we're not going to deviate from what they do.14:38
ScottKAIUI, the fork happened due to social issues.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.14:39
Peace-well it's a nice mess14:39
Peace-ScottK: i am worryng a lots 14:39
Peace-because i did FFmpeg dolphin service menu14:39
ScottKIf you have compatibility concerns, I'd talk to siretart on #ubuntu-devel.  He can either help you or tell you who can to make sure your concerns are addressed.14:43
Peace-ScottK: sure i will do14:44
Peace-ScottK: from my point of view i will isntall ffmpeg or avconv14:44
Peace-instead if you install ffmpeg you get avconv and that crappy ffmpeg14:44
Peace-by libav devs14:45
Quintasandebfx: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/maliit-framework_0.90.0-0ubuntu1.dsc14:48
QuintasanCould you try testbuilding it in quantal?14:48
QuintasanI can't get list-missing to list anything14:48
QuintasanThough I install just two files14:48
debfxQuintasan: dget: curl maliit-framework_0.90.0.orig.tar.bz2 http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/maliit-framework_0.90.0.orig.tar.bz2 failed14:49
Quintasanarrr14:49
Quintasanforgot to rename14:49
Quintasandebfx: Now14:50
debfxQuintasan: if you want list-missing you need to override dh_install with dh_install --list-missing14:51
Quintasandebfx: B10list-missing I mean14:52
QuintasanEven the hook doesn't list anything14:52
debfxyeah that only works with cdbs and dhmk14:52
debfxnot with plain debhelper14:52
debfxwhat does the -r in "qmake -r" do?14:53
debfxQuintasan: mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/include/maliit': Permission denied14:54
QuintasanNo idea, upstream told me to use that switch for some reason14:54
debfxI'd replace qmake -r $(QMAKE_OPTIONS) with dh_auto_configure -- $(QMAKE_OPTIONS)14:54
Quintasandebfx: If you retry the build it completes14:54
debfxand GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 make install with GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 dh_auto_install14:54
debfxQuintasan: that only works when you run it as root14:55
Quintasanholy crap14:55
Quintasanthere is a dobule dash there?14:55
Quintasanoh my god14:56
* Quintasan is dumb14:56
Quintasandebfx: GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 dh_install --list-missing will work?14:56
debfxwell currently the package tries to install stuff to / instead of debian/tmp/14:57
Quintasanmake install does that14:57
* Quintasan feels so stupid14:57
debfxthat's why you should use dh_auto_*14:58
debfxdh_auto_install for qmake calls make install INSTALL_ROOT=debian/tmp14:58
QuintasanAll files were installed into debian/maliit-framework14:59
QuintasanHmm14:59
Quintasanthere should be more files14:59
Quintasanhah15:04
debfxQuintasan: http://paste.debian.net/183060/15:05
Quintasandebfx: There is one thing I don't understand, if you override dh_auto_install it will invoke the things you overrode it with15:08
QuintasanNow how is override_dh_install different?15:08
Quintasanmore importantly15:09
QuintasanWhen does it gets called15:10
Quintasan:S15:10
debfxdh has an ordered list of dh_* tools it calls15:10
debfxI don't understand your first question15:12
Quintasanwell15:12
Quintasanokay15:12
Quintasandebfx: does dh_auto_install call dh_install?15:12
debfxno15:12
debfxdh_auto_* calls the upstream build system15:13
Peace--.- i hate them really15:13
alleeis there a networkmanagement pkg bzr repo?  Found nothing in kubuntu-packagers15:48
alleeRiddell: ^15:49
Riddellallee: check debian/control15:50
alleek15:50
RiddellI doubt there's one in kubuntu15:50
alleeRiddell: yes, not bzr entry.  Only the git repo of debian.  15:56
alleeso old way ...15:57
shadeslayerallee: don't think so17:34
shadeslayeroh brr17:34
CIA-81[nepomuk-core] Rohan Garg * 19 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add fix_memory_leak.patch and fix_memory_leak_2.patch from the KDE 4.9 branch so that nepomuk doesn't consume all the RAM17:40
shadeslayernepomuk fix also backported to precise 17:42
shadeslayerwho would be interested in testing a virtuoso 6.1.6 backport ?18:10
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* cmagina doesn't have any precise desktops anymore :(18:28
shadeslayerme neither18:29
shadeslayerI guess I'll have to download a VM tonight18:29
shadeslayererm18:29
shadeslayera ISO18:29
cmaginaeventually i'll get my openstack cluster up and running make stuff like firing up new vms much easier18:35
* cmagina says this even though the hardware has been sitting there for quite a few months already18:35
* shadeslayer pats his ultra low spec VPS 18:36
cmaginahehe18:37
shadeslayeryou and your fancy clusters, I've yet to find something that can match IO speeds of my VPS :P18:39
cmaginamines more for learning how to build the stack and get familiar with the tools around it18:49
genii-aroundplasma-scriptengines .. Recommended: plasma-scriptengine-kimono    "Package plasma-scriptengine-kimono is not available, but is referred to by another package."19:00
shadeslayergenii-around: works just fine here19:09
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/532184/19:09
genii-aroundInteresting. I have only the regular repos and ninjas. ( quantal, 4.9.0 )19:10
shadeslayerdunno, I have all of the official repos, but no ninjas19:11
genii-aroundshadeslayer: If you try to install it, does it find the package?19:17
shadeslayersec19:17
shadeslayer0.o : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!19:17
genii-aroundHm.19:19
shadeslayergive me a couple of minutes19:19
* shadeslayer is updating his sources19:19
* shadeslayer goes to find some food meanwhile19:20
shadeslayerhere's a cat picture till I get back http://i.imgur.com/XFfLi.jpg19:20
shadeslayerahhh19:28
shadeslayergenii-around: kimono is a suggested dep19:28
shadeslayerE: Package 'plasma-scriptengine-kimono' has no installation candidate19:29
shadeslayerindeed19:29
shadeslayer!info plasma-scriptengine-kimono precise19:29
ubottuPackage plasma-scriptengine-kimono does not exist in precise19:29
shadeslayer!info plasma-scriptengine-kimono oneiric19:30
ubottuPackage plasma-scriptengine-kimono does not exist in oneiric19:30
shadeslayerok, so that should be dropped from the suggests19:31
shadeslayergenii-around: please file a bug so that I remember to fix that :)19:31
ScottKThe new box has the big pbuilder cache and the big swap file now, so it should be good.19:33
genii-aroundshadeslayer: Will do19:35
shadeslayerinterestingly, where did kimono go19:40
shadeslayerI think it's dropped or sth19:41
CIA-81[kde-workspace] Rohan Garg * 674 * debian/control Drop plasma-scriptengine-kimono from Suggests as the package is no longer available19:42
shadeslayergenii-around: ^ will be fixed in next upload :)19:43
genii-aroundAh, cool.19:44
genii-aroundI was still trying to figure out which package to file a bug against....19:50
shadeslayer"UBUNTU ENTERPRISE SUMMIT" < sounds so fancy19:50
shadeslayergenii-around: kde-workspace ;)19:50
shadeslayerthat's where all the scriptengines come from19:51
shadeslayerI believe the issue is that we don't package kde bindings anymore19:51
shadeslayerwhich would be required for p-s-k to work anyway19:51
shadeslayervirtuoso 6.1.6 for precise available from https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental19:53
shadeslayerplease test :)19:53
shadeslayerwell .. I just uploaded it19:53
shadeslayerwill take some time to build ...19:53
shadeslayeroff to sleep I am19:59
cmaginayeah, looks like they are working towards the openstack model, 3 days of developer conference followed by 2 days of a buisness/marketing conference20:00
Riddellgenii-around: what recommends plasma-scriptengine-kimono ?  it isn't packaged20:00
shadeslayerRiddell: plasma-scriptengines suggested plasma-scriptengine-kimono20:01
genii-aroundRiddell: plasma-scriptengines  suggests it 20:01
shadeslayerI've fixed it in kde-workspace20:01
ScottKshadeslayer: What's needed from kdebindings that we don't ship as a separate package?20:10
yofel_shadeslayer: kimono isn't "dropped" - but nobody managed to package it20:13
yofel_and quintasan gave up when he tried20:13
yofel_ScottK: the mono bindings are the only ones we don't have as their packaging was a mess20:15
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genii-aroundbug 103546020:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035460 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasma-scriptengines suggests plasma-scriptengine-kimono which does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103546020:16
yofelshadeslayer: ^20:16
ScottKAh.  Right.  Mono.20:25
ScottKNeeds someone who cares about mono, I guess.20:25
micahgnot a bug20:27
micahgerr, is a bug :), should've been dropped I think (only in Debian stable and Ubuntu through natty)20:28
ScottKEither it should have been dropped or someone should have packaged kimono.20:29
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1035460] plasma-scriptengines suggests plasma-scriptengine-kimono which does not exist @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1035460 (by Kaulbach)20:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035460 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasma-scriptengines suggests plasma-scriptengine-kimono which does not exist" [Undecided,New]20:56
alleeRiddell: : nm 0.9.0.4 in ppa:allee/test.   Change is only the new changelog entry, whcth is file according to  src diff and  debdiff.  22:01
alleeis there a list of checks that one should run.  E.g. what's used before accepting pkg from new queue22:02
ScottKapachelogger_: I need you to make the icecc magix work.  See kubuntu-devel ml.22:08
apachelogger_ScottK: can probably do it this weekend, though I am at markey's so I would not hold my breath22:26
ScottKapachelogger_: OK.  I'll be away a chunk of the weekend, so could you at least verify you can get in while I'm here?22:49
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