[05:10] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1010966] KDM doesn't allow login into Unity, Gnome3, Unity 2D... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1010966 (by Tommy_CZ)
[06:47] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Really?
[06:47] <ScottK> virtuoso-opensource 6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[06:47] <ScottK> Bad version on something meant for the archive or PPA package accidentally in the main archive?
[08:00] <mikhas> moin^2
[09:05] <Riddell> ScottK: my fault
[11:49] <Darkwing> afiestas_: ping
[11:49] <afiestas_> Darkwing: pong
[11:50] <Darkwing> afiestas_: you have Quatzel builds for https://launchpad.net/webaccounts ?
[11:50] <afiestas_> no idea
[11:50] <Darkwing> :D
[11:50] <Darkwing> Okay
[11:50] <Darkwing> I just noticed that https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/webaccounts-daily was only building for Precise.
[11:51] <afiestas_> then I guess I do not
[11:52] <Riddell> Darkwing: tick the quantal box!
[11:52] <Riddell> you know you want to
[11:53] <Darkwing> Riddell: Yeah yeah yeah... Just did. :D
[11:56] <Riddell> forums positive about 4.9 http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=107287
[11:58] <Peace->  Riddell wanna a bug?
[11:58] <Peace-> hehhehe
[11:58] <Peace-> run k3b and it will ask you  for mp3 encoder
[11:59] <Peace-> close k3b and reopen it 
[11:59] <Peace-> it will ask for mp3 encoder again
[12:00] <Riddell> Peace-: hmm yes
[12:02] <Peace-> Riddell: i have  already installed btw http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/plasma-desktopQ17248.png
[12:02] <Peace-> Riddell: it does in 12.04 and 12.10
[12:08] <Darkwing> ohhhhhhhh jsut wonderful. webaccounts failed to build on quantal
[12:08] <Darkwing> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/112404758/buildlog.txt.gz
[12:08] <Darkwing> buggerface
[12:11] <Riddell> Peace-: a mystery, fancy reporting a bug?
[12:23] <Peace-> Riddell: right now i am working on FFmpeg service menu :D i am at end i guess
[12:42] <Darkwing> Dang it...
[12:43] <Darkwing> Desktop AND server broke in the move. *sigh*
[12:44] <Riddell> Darkwing: careless baggage handlers?
[12:45] <Darkwing> Riddell: I guess... :/
[12:46] <Riddell> Peace-: mm, it's because it's looking for /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0.md5sums but the file is now /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0:i386.md5sums
[12:47] <Riddell> Darkwing: broke bad?
[12:47] <Darkwing> Riddell: oh yeah.
[12:48] <Darkwing> Riddell: cracked case, m-board messed up...
[12:48] <Darkwing> the HDs are good.
[12:48] <Darkwing> So, that's a plus
[12:48] <Riddell> hum
[12:48] <Riddell> it's america, sue them!
[12:48] <Darkwing> Riddell: ROFL! It takes money to do that :/
[12:49] <Darkwing> and I'm still unemployed and broke.
[12:52] <Peace-> Riddell: good
[12:52] <Riddell> it takes money to sue people?  that seems the wrong way around
[12:53] <Riddell> Peace-: what does   ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/libmp3lame0*  give you ?
[12:55] <Peace-> Riddell: one second
[12:55] <Darkwing> Riddell: It's the old, must have money to make money thing.
[12:56] <Darkwing> Plus... I don't believe in the random suing of people.
[12:56] <Peace-> Riddell: here it is http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/plasma-desktopU17248.png
[12:57] <Peace-> symbolic link to fix this ?
[13:05] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you have the Amarok arm* FTBFS on your list?  Our arm* live FS builds will fail until it's fixed.
[13:07] <Riddell> ScottK: hmm no, I hadn't seen it thanks
[13:07] <ScottK> Riddell: I already mashed the retry button once and it didn't help, FYI.
[13:08] <Riddell> ScottK: nah some file isn't compiled there
[13:31] <ScottK> apachelogger_, debfx, jtechidna, Quintasan_, and shadeslayer: Ping re access to the updated armhf box (see kubuntu-devel ML).
[13:35] <debfx> ScottK: can't you copy the shadow entries?
[13:36] <ScottK> I don't think I got the UIDs the same when I created the users.
[13:36] <ScottK> I guess I could have.
[13:38] <debfx> the shadow file doesn't store UIDs
[13:39] <ScottK> OK.
[13:39] <debfx> I haven't actually tried copying shadow entries to other machines but I don't see why it shouldn't work
[13:40] <jtechidna> ScottK: pong. but I don't think I had an account on the old box
[13:40] <ScottK> You did.
[13:40] <jtechidna> oh :D
[13:40] <ScottK> That doesn't mean you used it, of course.
[13:40] <jtechidna> right
[13:40] <jtechidna> yeah, I don't think I did
[13:41]  * Quintasan_ reads
[13:43] <Quintasan> ScottK: So, did you copy shadow entries?
[13:44] <ScottK> Doing now.
[13:44] <Quintasan> ok
[13:45] <ScottK> debfx: I copied your entry over.
[13:47] <debfx> ScottK: debfx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[13:48] <ScottK> debfx: You are now.  Please logout/in and try again.
[13:48] <Riddell> naughty boy
[13:49] <debfx> ScottK: I still get the error
[13:49] <ScottK> debfx: Try again.
[13:50] <debfx> ScottK: yep works now. thanks
[13:50]  * ScottK copies more shadow entries.
[14:05] <ScottK> Done.
[14:34] <Peace-> guys there is a big problem here
[14:34] <Peace-> i mean the ffmpeg made from libav deves is deprecated
[14:34] <ScottK> What do you mean by that?
[14:35] <Peace-> ScottK: it sasys to use avconv
[14:35] <ScottK> What does?
[14:35] <Peace-> ffmpeg version 0.8.3-4:0.8.3-0ubuntu3, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers
[14:35] <Peace->   built on Jul 30 2012 22:10:17 with gcc 4.7.1
[14:35] <Peace-> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[14:35] <Peace-> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[14:36] <Peace-> but doesn't recognize ffmpeg options 
[14:36] <Peace-> what's the point to use this ? 
[14:37] <jtechidna> http://libav.org/index.html#fftools_rename
[14:37] <Peace-> btw there is a waay to install the true ffmpeg on ubuntu or not?
[14:37] <Peace-> i mean i can compile and there is not problem at all
[14:37] <ScottK> It's a change withing libav, not a replacement for it.
[14:37] <Peace-> but ...
[14:37] <ScottK> I'm sure you can, but it's completely unsupported.
[14:38] <ScottK> Ubuntu gets it's ffmpeg/libav from Debian and they're using libav.
[14:38] <ScottK> Since they have developers that are deeply involved in the upstream issues, we're not going to deviate from what they do.
[14:39] <ScottK> AIUI, the fork happened due to social issues.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.
[14:39] <Peace-> well it's a nice mess
[14:39] <Peace-> ScottK: i am worryng a lots 
[14:39] <Peace-> because i did FFmpeg dolphin service menu
[14:43] <ScottK> If you have compatibility concerns, I'd talk to siretart on #ubuntu-devel.  He can either help you or tell you who can to make sure your concerns are addressed.
[14:44] <Peace-> ScottK: sure i will do
[14:44] <Peace-> ScottK: from my point of view i will isntall ffmpeg or avconv
[14:44] <Peace-> instead if you install ffmpeg you get avconv and that crappy ffmpeg
[14:45] <Peace-> by libav devs
[14:48] <Quintasan> debfx: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/maliit-framework_0.90.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[14:48] <Quintasan> Could you try testbuilding it in quantal?
[14:48] <Quintasan> I can't get list-missing to list anything
[14:48] <Quintasan> Though I install just two files
[14:49] <debfx> Quintasan: dget: curl maliit-framework_0.90.0.orig.tar.bz2 http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/maliit-framework_0.90.0.orig.tar.bz2 failed
[14:49] <Quintasan> arrr
[14:49] <Quintasan> forgot to rename
[14:50] <Quintasan> debfx: Now
[14:51] <debfx> Quintasan: if you want list-missing you need to override dh_install with dh_install --list-missing
[14:52] <Quintasan> debfx: B10list-missing I mean
[14:52] <Quintasan> Even the hook doesn't list anything
[14:52] <debfx> yeah that only works with cdbs and dhmk
[14:52] <debfx> not with plain debhelper
[14:53] <debfx> what does the -r in "qmake -r" do?
[14:54] <debfx> Quintasan: mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/include/maliit': Permission denied
[14:54] <Quintasan> No idea, upstream told me to use that switch for some reason
[14:54] <debfx> I'd replace qmake -r $(QMAKE_OPTIONS) with dh_auto_configure -- $(QMAKE_OPTIONS)
[14:54] <Quintasan> debfx: If you retry the build it completes
[14:54] <debfx> and GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 make install with GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 dh_auto_install
[14:55] <debfx> Quintasan: that only works when you run it as root
[14:55] <Quintasan> holy crap
[14:55] <Quintasan> there is a dobule dash there?
[14:56] <Quintasan> oh my god
[14:56]  * Quintasan is dumb
[14:56] <Quintasan> debfx: GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1 dh_install --list-missing will work?
[14:57] <debfx> well currently the package tries to install stuff to / instead of debian/tmp/
[14:57] <Quintasan> make install does that
[14:57]  * Quintasan feels so stupid
[14:58] <debfx> that's why you should use dh_auto_*
[14:58] <debfx> dh_auto_install for qmake calls make install INSTALL_ROOT=debian/tmp
[14:59] <Quintasan> All files were installed into debian/maliit-framework
[14:59] <Quintasan> Hmm
[14:59] <Quintasan> there should be more files
[15:04] <Quintasan> hah
[15:05] <debfx> Quintasan: http://paste.debian.net/183060/
[15:08] <Quintasan> debfx: There is one thing I don't understand, if you override dh_auto_install it will invoke the things you overrode it with
[15:08] <Quintasan> Now how is override_dh_install different?
[15:09] <Quintasan> more importantly
[15:10] <Quintasan> When does it gets called
[15:10] <Quintasan> :S
[15:10] <debfx> dh has an ordered list of dh_* tools it calls
[15:12] <debfx> I don't understand your first question
[15:12] <Quintasan> well
[15:12] <Quintasan> okay
[15:12] <Quintasan> debfx: does dh_auto_install call dh_install?
[15:12] <debfx> no
[15:13] <debfx> dh_auto_* calls the upstream build system
[15:13] <Peace-> -.- i hate them really
[15:48] <allee> is there a networkmanagement pkg bzr repo?  Found nothing in kubuntu-packagers
[15:49] <allee> Riddell: ^
[15:50] <Riddell> allee: check debian/control
[15:50] <allee> k
[15:50] <Riddell> I doubt there's one in kubuntu
[15:56] <allee> Riddell: yes, not bzr entry.  Only the git repo of debian.  
[15:57] <allee> so old way ...
[17:34] <shadeslayer> allee: don't think so
[17:34] <shadeslayer> oh brr
[17:40] <CIA-81> [nepomuk-core] Rohan Garg * 19 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add fix_memory_leak.patch and fix_memory_leak_2.patch from the KDE 4.9 branch so that nepomuk doesn't consume all the RAM
[17:42] <shadeslayer> nepomuk fix also backported to precise 
[18:10] <shadeslayer> who would be interested in testing a virtuoso 6.1.6 backport ?
[18:28]  * cmagina doesn't have any precise desktops anymore :(
[18:29] <shadeslayer> me neither
[18:29] <shadeslayer> I guess I'll have to download a VM tonight
[18:29] <shadeslayer> erm
[18:29] <shadeslayer> a ISO
[18:35] <cmagina> eventually i'll get my openstack cluster up and running make stuff like firing up new vms much easier
[18:35]  * cmagina says this even though the hardware has been sitting there for quite a few months already
[18:36]  * shadeslayer pats his ultra low spec VPS 
[18:37] <cmagina> hehe
[18:39] <shadeslayer> you and your fancy clusters, I've yet to find something that can match IO speeds of my VPS :P
[18:49] <cmagina> mines more for learning how to build the stack and get familiar with the tools around it
[19:00] <genii-around> plasma-scriptengines .. Recommended: plasma-scriptengine-kimono    "Package plasma-scriptengine-kimono is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[19:09] <shadeslayer> genii-around: works just fine here
[19:09] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/532184/
[19:10] <genii-around> Interesting. I have only the regular repos and ninjas. ( quantal, 4.9.0 )
[19:11] <shadeslayer> dunno, I have all of the official repos, but no ninjas
[19:17] <genii-around> shadeslayer: If you try to install it, does it find the package?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> sec
[19:17] <shadeslayer> 0.o : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[19:19] <genii-around> Hm.
[19:19] <shadeslayer> give me a couple of minutes
[19:19]  * shadeslayer is updating his sources
[19:20]  * shadeslayer goes to find some food meanwhile
[19:20] <shadeslayer> here's a cat picture till I get back http://i.imgur.com/XFfLi.jpg
[19:28] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[19:28] <shadeslayer> genii-around: kimono is a suggested dep
[19:29] <shadeslayer> E: Package 'plasma-scriptengine-kimono' has no installation candidate
[19:29] <shadeslayer> indeed
[19:29] <shadeslayer> !info plasma-scriptengine-kimono precise
[19:30] <shadeslayer> !info plasma-scriptengine-kimono oneiric
[19:31] <shadeslayer> ok, so that should be dropped from the suggests
[19:31] <shadeslayer> genii-around: please file a bug so that I remember to fix that :)
[19:33] <ScottK> The new box has the big pbuilder cache and the big swap file now, so it should be good.
[19:35] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Will do
[19:40] <shadeslayer> interestingly, where did kimono go
[19:41] <shadeslayer> I think it's dropped or sth
[19:42] <CIA-81> [kde-workspace] Rohan Garg * 674 * debian/control Drop plasma-scriptengine-kimono from Suggests as the package is no longer available
[19:43] <shadeslayer> genii-around: ^ will be fixed in next upload :)
[19:44] <genii-around> Ah, cool.
[19:50] <genii-around> I was still trying to figure out which package to file a bug against....
[19:50] <shadeslayer> "UBUNTU ENTERPRISE SUMMIT" < sounds so fancy
[19:50] <shadeslayer> genii-around: kde-workspace ;)
[19:51] <shadeslayer> that's where all the scriptengines come from
[19:51] <shadeslayer> I believe the issue is that we don't package kde bindings anymore
[19:51] <shadeslayer> which would be required for p-s-k to work anyway
[19:53] <shadeslayer> virtuoso 6.1.6 for precise available from https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[19:53] <shadeslayer> please test :)
[19:53] <shadeslayer> well .. I just uploaded it
[19:53] <shadeslayer> will take some time to build ...
[19:59] <shadeslayer> off to sleep I am
[20:00] <cmagina> yeah, looks like they are working towards the openstack model, 3 days of developer conference followed by 2 days of a buisness/marketing conference
[20:00] <Riddell> genii-around: what recommends plasma-scriptengine-kimono ?  it isn't packaged
[20:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: plasma-scriptengines suggested plasma-scriptengine-kimono
[20:01] <genii-around> Riddell: plasma-scriptengines  suggests it 
[20:01] <shadeslayer> I've fixed it in kde-workspace
[20:10] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What's needed from kdebindings that we don't ship as a separate package?
[20:13] <yofel_> shadeslayer: kimono isn't "dropped" - but nobody managed to package it
[20:13] <yofel_> and quintasan gave up when he tried
[20:15] <yofel_> ScottK: the mono bindings are the only ones we don't have as their packaging was a mess
[20:16] <genii-around> bug 1035460
[20:16] <yofel> shadeslayer: ^
[20:25] <ScottK> Ah.  Right.  Mono.
[20:25] <ScottK> Needs someone who cares about mono, I guess.
[20:27] <micahg> not a bug
[20:28] <micahg> err, is a bug :), should've been dropped I think (only in Debian stable and Ubuntu through natty)
[20:29] <ScottK> Either it should have been dropped or someone should have packaged kimono.
[20:56] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1035460] plasma-scriptengines suggests plasma-scriptengine-kimono which does not exist @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1035460 (by Kaulbach)
[22:01] <allee> Riddell: : nm 0.9.0.4 in ppa:allee/test.   Change is only the new changelog entry, whcth is file according to  src diff and  debdiff.  
[22:02] <allee> is there a list of checks that one should run.  E.g. what's used before accepting pkg from new queue
[22:08] <ScottK> apachelogger_: I need you to make the icecc magix work.  See kubuntu-devel ml.
[22:26] <apachelogger_> ScottK: can probably do it this weekend, though I am at markey's so I would not hold my breath
[22:49] <ScottK> apachelogger_: OK.  I'll be away a chunk of the weekend, so could you at least verify you can get in while I'm here?