Chaser | Hi, the whole screen seems to flicker when ever a notification pops from the tray. Is this known issue ? | 00:48 |
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amason | Chaser: doesn't occur on any of my machines, guessing it's a video driver interaction thing..have a look on bugzilla and if you can't see anything similar feel free to create a new report | 01:19 |
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uberdub | damn, its always somethin with this os isnt it? | 04:22 |
uberdub | anyone know why flash player crashes all the time in 12.04? | 04:28 |
uberdub | im going back to 10.04 or buying a mac | 04:37 |
uberdub | this is ridiculous | 04:38 |
amason | ubottu: you probably need to ask adobe that .. | 04:58 |
ubottu | amason: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:58 |
amason | oops that was meant for uberdub | 04:58 |
amason | ubottu: i do you think your intelligent...you need to learn to value your self more | 04:58 |
ubottu | amason: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:58 |
amason | i guess your right, otherwise you'd have been programmed with more phrases | 04:59 |
* amason is bored | 04:59 | |
Graf_Westerholt | LOL | 05:01 |
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rubenh73 | buenas noches alguien que hable y escriba español | 06:36 |
lordievader | Good morning | 06:58 |
DFrostedWang | lordievader: Good morning | 07:00 |
lordievader | Hey DFrostedWang, how are you? | 07:01 |
DFrostedWang | Okay | 07:03 |
DFrostedWang | Got my computer all set up w/ LVM, got my Winblows PC working enough to mod my Skyrim savegame... | 07:04 |
lordievader | That is a first that Windows keeps working XD | 07:07 |
DFrostedWang | That computer also has SliTaz linux on it, Winblows is just for modding and those things microxp can't do | 07:11 |
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dsan | hey, anyone know why my systray clock displays UTC? i actually wana see CET.. (got Kubuntu 12.04) | 10:22 |
Peace- | dsan: change it | 10:25 |
Peace- | dsan: you maybe set it to display utc | 10:25 |
Peace- | in the installation i mean | 10:25 |
dsan | Peace: how? | 10:26 |
dsan | when i go to settings it shows the CET | 10:26 |
dsan | solved it. thx anyway | 10:30 |
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BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:32 |
markit | hi, if I've standard backport repositories, but not ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, will kde 4.9 come to 12.04 sooner or later or it will stay on 4.8.x? | 11:37 |
BluesKaj | markit, it will stay on 4.8 afaik until your version upgrades to a new kernel | 11:39 |
BluesKaj | markit, adding the backport won't hurt your system , actually it will help upgrade it ..4.9 runs very smoothly here | 11:44 |
phil__ | hello from China | 11:57 |
Peace- | phil__: hi | 12:03 |
phil__ | hi | 12:03 |
markit | BluesKaj: I've a LTSP installation for school... I'm tempted by 4.9, but wondering if works fine and, if in the future will come 4.10, it will work fine too | 12:11 |
markit | I've customized kde a little, so I have to re-test (i.e. disable akonadi since eats too resources and no students use it) | 12:12 |
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BluesKaj | markit, your akonadi settings will be retained in 4.0 , I also have it disabled and it remained so after upgrading to kde 4.9 | 12:15 |
BluesKaj | 4.0=4.9 | 12:15 |
markit | BluesKaj: good, because with kubuntu 11.10 I had a lot of messages complaining about this disable (worked fine in 11.04) | 12:16 |
BluesKaj | markit, you can make the akonadi disable setting, more permanent by unchecking it in systemsettings>stsrtup&shutdown>service manager , then adding to the textbox in session management , "applications to be excluded from sessions" , then checking the "restore previous sessions" box. | 12:22 |
BluesKaj | markit, like so , http://imagebin.org/224046 | 12:28 |
BluesKaj | markit, or here , (smaller image) http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/snapshot2.png | 12:30 |
markit | BluesKaj: mmm I went to the specific option in the configuation panel and disabled from there | 12:31 |
markit | desktop search and disabled nepomuk (urgh, I said akonadi!) | 12:32 |
BluesKaj | well , that's your choice , but i did both to make sure , markit | 12:32 |
markit | BluesKaj: thanks for the tip, I will experiment a little | 12:32 |
BluesKaj | nepomuk and akonadi are linked I'm afraid | 12:33 |
markit | yes, I think so. Btw I changed akonadi backend from mysql to sqlite | 12:33 |
markit | with mysql each student account had 120MB of wasted space in their home | 12:33 |
markit | (multiply for 300+ students...) | 12:33 |
BluesKaj | well, i don't bother with sql settings since I don't use the server anyway | 12:34 |
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markit | BluesKaj: but the file is created anyway | 12:34 |
markit | I would love to disable activities globally anyway... students don't use them and they mess them up instead | 12:36 |
markit | also I miss A LOT the firefox-kde package | 12:36 |
markit | without it firefox is a mess to use for illeterate IT students | 12:36 |
markit | (average people, anyway) | 12:37 |
BluesKaj | markit, where is the mysql file located ? | 12:39 |
markit | I install akonadi-backend-sqlite first | 12:40 |
markit | then I remove .local/share/akonadi | 12:40 |
markit | and edit .config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc | 12:40 |
aguitel | are kde 4.9 stable to upgrade kubuntu from ppa backport ? | 12:40 |
markit | (I edit a global file instead, but should be ok that file for your account) | 12:40 |
markit | in [General] I put Driver=QSQLITE3 | 12:41 |
markit | BluesKaj: try du -csh .local/share/akonadi | 12:42 |
markit | maybe 4.9 has sqlite3 again by default, I remember something about it but I could be wrong, and I dubt it will change already present settings | 12:43 |
markit | (should create a new account and try) | 12:43 |
markit | aguitel: BluesKaj says he is using it and works, I'm trying right now in a LTSP installation, I've done in a laptop and works fine so far | 12:44 |
BluesKaj | markit, no such file ".local/share/akonadi" , i couldn't find it in ~/ either | 12:44 |
markit | but I assume no responsabilities ;P | 12:44 |
markit | BluesKaj: is a directory... drwxr-xr-x 2 marco marco 4096 ago 10 10:44 .local/share/akonadi | 12:45 |
BluesKaj | aguitel, yes 4.9 is fine for home use | 12:45 |
markit | (and of course under your home) | 12:46 |
BluesKaj | markit, it's not under my home dir | 12:46 |
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aguitel | markit, BluesKaj thanks | 12:46 |
BluesKaj | i don't have the database enabled in akonadi | 12:46 |
markit | BluesKaj: how can you disable? and as far as I know is created when you log the first time with an user, so your main user should have since installation | 12:47 |
markit | but if is not there, there is no problem :) | 12:47 |
BluesKaj | markit, just make sure mysql internalcserver isn't checked in akonadi server configuration | 12:49 |
BluesKaj | mysql internal server , rather | 12:50 |
markit | BluesKaj: I'm surprised everyithing works fine for you without akonadi... I thought KDE was depending more and more on it | 12:53 |
markit | goin to a "Vista experience" where everything trashes "just to help the user anticipating their needs" | 12:53 |
Panik | Can someone point me in the right direction on how to troubleshoot why Banshee continues to lock up shortly after it is started. | 12:54 |
BluesKaj | markit, yes , if you use the PIM , then akonadi has some requirements , but i don't use kmail or kontact and one can remove them safely without taking the kubuntu desktop with it | 12:55 |
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t2zhu | Hi. Can someone help me? When I try to install the package "kdeartwork-theme-window" it fails saying that it depends on a nonexistent package "libkdecorations4abi1". | 13:26 |
t2zhu | I'm using KDE 4.8.5 | 13:27 |
BluesKaj | nonexistent or available from another source , t2zhu ? | 13:29 |
t2zhu | The package *does* exist, but only in the Beta and Backports versions of the Kubuntu repository | 13:31 |
BluesKaj | t2zhu, then you may be required to upgrade your kde version to use that theme | 13:33 |
t2zhu | I do have a package called "libkdecorations4", though... | 13:35 |
t2zhu | By the way, how do you reply on IRC? | 13:36 |
BluesKaj | how do you mean ? | 13:37 |
t2zhu | It seems to me that I shouldn't have to install kubuntu-backports just so I can install a package that lives on kubuntu-updates | 13:40 |
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BluesKaj | t2zhu, what do you mean by "how do you reply on IRC?" | 13:42 |
t2zhu | Oh... as in... how do you make your reply to me highlighted? | 13:44 |
BluesKaj | to reply personally , type the first few letters of the persons nick and complete it by using the tab key | 13:44 |
BluesKaj | depends on the irc client , where highlight own nick with colour options is located | 13:46 |
t2zhu | BluesKaj: Ah... thanks | 13:46 |
BluesKaj | it's obviously enabled by default in quassel | 13:46 |
t2zhu | BluesKaj: But this isn't a private message, right? Everyone can still see? | 13:47 |
faglnar | Why ist it, that Kubuntu Uses the lower DVI port as primary display and windows the upper port? | 13:49 |
BluesKaj | yes it's in the chat test , pm-ing is discouraged as a support method , t2zhu | 13:49 |
faglnar | Its really annoying! | 13:49 |
t2zhu | BluesKaj: So back to my question, do I really have to install kubuntu-backports so that I can install kdeartwork-theme-window in the kubuntu updates package? | 13:51 |
BluesKaj | faglnar, can you set them in the display & monitor settings or in your graphics card GUI | 13:51 |
faglnar | BluesKaj: Yes I can set them, but only per user. How can I set it that the entire system uses the big monitor by default as primary screen in its native resolution? | 13:52 |
BluesKaj | t2zhu, dunno for sure , you might find the theme in www.kde-look.org | 13:53 |
faglnar | Also the per user setting is not saved between reboots | 13:53 |
BluesKaj | faglnar, in system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , make sure "restore previous settings " is checked ..also make sure your chosen settings in monitor and display are "set as default" | 13:56 |
hateball | faglnar: are you using nvidia and the proprietary driver? | 13:56 |
faglnar | ati oss driver | 13:57 |
* hateball slowly backs away | 13:57 | |
BluesKaj | faglnar, oss is audio | 13:57 |
faglnar | i mean the open source one not oss audio system | 13:58 |
faglnar | lol | 13:58 |
BluesKaj | faglnar, glxinfo | grep OpenG | 13:59 |
BluesKaj | faglnar, glxinfo | grep OpenGL | 13:59 |
BluesKaj | what's the version string , faglnar | 14:00 |
faglnar | OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CYPRESS OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 | 14:00 |
faglnar | OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 | 14:00 |
faglnar | (i tried to pipe the grep to pastebinit but it wont work) | 14:01 |
BluesKaj | does ati use the mesa driver as default , like nouveau is with nvidia ..seems so ..fag have you you checked for additional drivers in kmenu>apps>system? | 14:04 |
faglnar | btw in systemsettings>startup&shutdown>sessionmanagement is no restore settings, only restore session, but i dont want previously open programs to be reopened on login | 14:04 |
faglnar | yes it has the fglrx or the fglrx-updates drivers | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | restore session assumes you close apps before logging out | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | install the fglrx driver | 14:05 |
faglnar | no | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | why not ? | 14:05 |
faglnar | it will make my system crash every hour | 14:06 |
faglnar | when installed everything feels unstable, lots of stuff crashes and vmware instacrashes the entire system | 14:06 |
faglnar | its definitely not usabla | 14:07 |
BluesKaj | fag have you updated/upgraded the system since , it might be more stable now , if you haven't | 14:07 |
BluesKaj | faglnar,^ | 14:08 |
faglnar | i do regular updates and the last time i tried it was 2 weeks ago | 14:08 |
faglnar | same shit as usual | 14:08 |
starlook | My xrandr not detect the second monitor. | 14:12 |
BluesKaj | nice language , faglnar ...it's not necessary here | 14:12 |
faglnar | okay wont use that further | 14:13 |
BluesKaj | starlook, never used xrander , have you tried opngl instead ? | 14:17 |
BluesKaj | opengl rather | 14:18 |
BluesKaj | er xrender | 14:20 |
muh2000 | hi all | 14:25 |
muh2000 | what app is that: http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/whatisthat.png ? | 14:25 |
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JoeSomebody | on a 64 bit laptop installation hp dv7 i for some reason have nothing but a blue screen, wtf? help! | 15:58 |
JoeSomebody | the dv7 update for the thing didn't work | 15:59 |
JoeSomebody | is that why? | 15:59 |
JoeSomebody | and every install says cannot mark all in package manager, what's up there? | 16:00 |
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ok123_ | can anyone tell me where exactly ""/path/to/your/kde4/install/dir"" is in ubuntu? | 17:15 |
DarthFrog | ok123_: /usr/bin | 17:23 |
renato|2 | Hi there, could someone help me really fast? :) | 17:37 |
renato|2 | Having some issues installing adobe AIR :x | 17:38 |
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renatof | someone? :x | 17:38 |
renatof | Anyone here???? | 17:41 |
renatof | erikja: erikja: | 17:42 |
erikja | ? | 17:43 |
renatof | you know about kubuntu erikja? | 17:44 |
renatof | could you help me? | 17:44 |
erikja | what's about ? | 17:44 |
renatof | about adobe AIR | 17:44 |
renatof | i get an error. | 17:44 |
erikja | negative, I know of KDE, as I run opensuse | 17:45 |
renatof | about permissions. admin won't let me install it or i don't have enough permissions to install. But i'm the admin :x | 17:45 |
renatof | well, kubuntu is KDE | 17:45 |
erikja | install it as admin | 17:45 |
renatof | how to do that? :s | 17:45 |
renatof | i usually just use the terminal doing sudo ./ | 17:45 |
erikja | yes that's one way | 17:45 |
renatof | how can i run it as admin? :S | 17:45 |
renatof | can you explain me? | 17:46 |
erikja | you do run as admin with sudo | 17:46 |
renatof | oh, i did that, but thats when i get that error. | 17:46 |
erikja | does Kubunut use zypper ? | 17:46 |
renatof | i also tryed runing as sudo su but not working either | 17:46 |
erikja | What eaxcatly did you do ? | 17:47 |
renatof | first i downloaded it. | 17:47 |
erikja | and | 17:47 |
renatof | then i did chmod +x Adobe.bin | 17:47 |
renatof | then i did sudo ./Adobe.bin | 17:47 |
renatof | and i get that error | 17:47 |
renatof | i also tryes | 17:47 |
renatof | sudo su | 17:47 |
FloodBotK1 | renatof: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 17:47 |
renatof | but that way it didn't even open | 17:47 |
erikja | FloodBotK1, ok you take over bye | 17:48 |
renatof | well, you won't help me then? :x | 17:48 |
erikja | yes I will, but FloodBotK1 took over from me | 17:48 |
renatof | flood is a bot, it won't help me at all D: | 17:49 |
renatof | erikja: do you want to talk in private? | 17:50 |
erikja | renatof, http://kubuntu101.blogspot.dk/2009/05/installing-adobe-air-in-kubuntu.html | 17:54 |
OerHeks | erikja, this is more recent, and suited for kubuntu >>> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-adobe-flash-reader-air-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 17:57 |
renatof | OerHeks thats my doubts. erikja was trying to help me. | 17:59 |
renatof | but still, it is not working. i still have the same permission issue. | 17:59 |
OerHeks | I am on gnome/unity and it doesn't work for me. | 17:59 |
renatof | I can't fix it :( | 17:59 |
renatof | the common error on gnome is about kwallet i guess, right? | 18:00 |
renatof | thats easy to fix. | 18:00 |
renatof | but i'm on KDE | 18:00 |
renatof | i can't install adobe air. | 18:00 |
renatof | it say i need to ask for permission to the admin, but i don't know how :x | 18:00 |
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shadeslayer | anyone who would like to test a better virtuoso for precise? | 18:22 |
hector__ | hello | 18:29 |
DarthFrog | shadeslayer: Virtuoso? How better? | 18:29 |
shadeslayer | DarthFrog: upstream recommends it, has bug fixes and says it's faster | 18:30 |
DarthFrog | OK, what do you want me to do? | 18:30 |
shadeslayer | DarthFrog: I'll upload a package in a couple of minutes to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental, please add the PPA and upgrade | 18:30 |
shadeslayer | then search for a file that nepomuk has already indexed ( via dolphin or krunner ) | 18:31 |
DarthFrog | Heh, "DO NOT INSTALL!" Very comforting, that. | 18:32 |
hector__ | nowwwwwwwwww | 18:33 |
hector__ | I am ARGENTINIAN | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | DarthFrog: ok, that's for people who unknowingly install PPA's :P | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | Only install that PPA when I say it's ok :P | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | hector__: hi | 18:34 |
hector__ | mierda | 18:34 |
DarthFrog | !ar | hector__ | 18:35 |
ubottu | hector__: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe | 18:35 |
hector__ | tank you | 18:36 |
shadeslayer | virtuoso sure does have alot of tests .... | 18:38 |
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pf | hola | 19:46 |
neocran | hhh | 19:47 |
neocran | no habla espagnola | 19:47 |
pf | alguien de chile | 19:47 |
pf | alguien de arica | 19:48 |
genii-around | !es | 19:50 |
ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 19:50 |
renato | Hi there. Someone helpfull here? | 19:51 |
renato | Ok, apparently not.. | 19:53 |
renato | Why is this IRC on kunbutu's webpage if nobody here helps? | 19:58 |
genii-around | !details | renato | 20:02 |
ubottu | renato: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 20:02 |
shadeslayer | renato: if you'd just ask your question ... maybe someone would have answered | 20:02 |
renato | Well, i have a problem installing Adobe AIR on kubuntu 12.04. When i try to install it using sudo ./Adobe.bin, i get an error that say something like "You don't have admin permissions. Contact the admin" I'm the admin, so i don't know what to do to install it. | 20:04 |
renato | So, can you help me to fix it? | 20:10 |
OerHeks | renato, did you perform " sudo chmod +x AdobeAIRInstaller.bin " ? | 20:12 |
renato | yes i did. | 20:13 |
renato | OerHeks: yes i did. | 20:13 |
OerHeks | Then i don't understand the permission issue. | 20:13 |
* OerHeks was peeking @ http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-adobe-flash-reader-air-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 20:14 | |
renato | Me neither, i don't know what to do and i really need it :/ | 20:14 |
renato | want some screens? | 20:14 |
renato | Its in portuguese but i think its easy to see and understand.. | 20:15 |
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renato | OerHeks: do you think there is a way to fix it? | 20:16 |
OerHeks | are you running 32bit or 64bit ? | 20:16 |
renato | 32bit | 20:16 |
OerHeks | i run 64 bit so i gave up, since ubuntu is multi-arch. | 20:16 |
renato | so, you can't help me? | 20:17 |
OerHeks | i am not sure, post the screenshot with the error, or use ubuntu.paste.com for text only | 20:17 |
renato | I'll send you a screenshot in private ok? | 20:18 |
renato | Its in portuguse, is that a problem for you or you can translate? | 20:18 |
OerHeks | please here, so anyone can comment/help | 20:18 |
renato | ok ok. | 20:18 |
OerHeks | what program does need adobe-air, bytheway? | 20:19 |
renato | a game. If i make it work i can completly migrate for linux. But i need something to entretain myself.. | 20:20 |
renato | I can make it run with wine, but it glitches a little bit sometimes. | 20:20 |
renato | and it is linux compatible so, why not runing it well? | 20:20 |
BarkingFish | evening all - need a little help. I'm in Firefox right now, and I have got mailto: links on a page I use. If I click them, nada happens. Is there any way to config the system on what progs should open what types of links? | 20:24 |
renato | OerHeks: I shared the screenshot, how can i post it here? | 20:30 |
BarkingFish | renato, are you on the page with the screenshot now? if so, just copy the url from the address bar, and paste it here :) | 20:31 |
renato | Ohhhh, nvm.. i thought i needed to share it on the IRC client.. nvm, stupid me. I'll post it on imageshake or something like that and post it here | 20:32 |
genii-around | BarkingFish: What do you want it to open when you hit a mailto: link? | 20:33 |
BarkingFish | kmail, genii-around | 20:34 |
renato | ok i have the error here | 20:37 |
renato | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/erroradobeair.png/ | 20:37 |
genii-around | BarkingFish: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto should be set to "true" and network.protocol-handler.app.mailto should be set to "kmail" ( in about:config ) | 20:37 |
renato | genii-around: genii D: | 20:38 |
BarkingFish | l, | 20:39 |
BarkingFish | ok genii-around - I will get to that. | 20:39 |
BarkingFish | Thanks :) | 20:39 |
BarkingFish | And renato - I can barely just see the error, and my portuguese isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, Adobe Air isn't letting you install because apparently that feature is locked out by an administrator... right? | 20:40 |
BarkingFish | imageshack.us isn't letting me zoom in on the pic :( | 20:40 |
renato | Thats right Barking | 20:40 |
renato | and i don't know how to fix it :( | 20:40 |
renato | This is my computer, shouldn't i be the administrator? How can i fix it? | 20:41 |
renato | I tryed to sudo it. I just can't go through it :( | 20:42 |
BarkingFish | genii-around, how do I add that second line you mentioned into my config - the network.protocol-handler.app.mailto is not in my config | 20:44 |
genii-around | BarkingFish: right-click on browser screen... select New...String | 20:45 |
BarkingFish | ok :) | 20:45 |
BarkingFish | right, 'tis done. I will test that now :) | 20:46 |
renato | BarkingFish: You don't know how to fix my issue? | 20:46 |
BarkingFish | normally, renato - I would have done that by simply logging into the whole desktop as root, and doing it there. | 20:46 |
renato | BarkingFish: and how can i do that? :x | 20:47 |
BarkingFish | Unfortunately, being a signatory to ubuntu's code of conduct means I have to abide by their rules, so I'm not allowed to aid or assist a user in setting up a root account, root password, or teaching them how to do so. | 20:47 |
renato | BarkingFish: Is by doing sudo su? Becouse i tryed that too but its not working | 20:47 |
BarkingFish | I'd be for the high jump :( | 20:47 |
devuberoi | i am having an audio issue with kubuntu 12.04 LTS, even if i mute the audio, it still is not actually mute. Only the icon shows its mute. | 20:48 |
genii-around | renato: Have you tried with kdesudo instead? | 20:48 |
devuberoi | anyone with same issue? | 20:48 |
renato | BarkingFish: So... i won't have this issue solved, right? | 20:48 |
BarkingFish | I certainly can't help you or tell you how to do it - if you want to google and read how to do it, I can't stop you there :) | 20:48 |
renato | genii-around: kdesudo? i don't think so. | 20:48 |
renato | genii-around: its just that? kdesudo ./? | 20:48 |
genii-around | renato: Yes, instead of sudo | 20:49 |
BarkingFish | but anything you do in a root account is pretty lethal to your machine, it won't question anything you do - so if you do it, on your own head be it :) | 20:49 |
* genii-around makes sure BarkingFish gets a cookie for being good | 20:49 | |
renato | genii-around: it didn't work doing kdesudo :/ | 20:49 |
renato | BarkingFish: don't worry, i don't even know how to do it, so i won't.. | 20:49 |
BarkingFish | very wise. | 20:50 |
renato | I guess i won't this problem solved :( | 20:50 |
devuberoi | guys can anyone help me with audio problem on kubuntu? | 20:50 |
BarkingFish | "He who plays around in root, is likely to kill tree" | 20:50 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, be patient - we will be with you shortly. | 20:50 |
markit | renato: OMHO, better stay away from proprietary programs as much as you can | 20:50 |
genii-around | work, afk | 20:50 |
renato | markit: how so? | 20:50 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: sorry, and thanks :) | 20:50 |
BarkingFish | bbfn genii-around - and thanks for the help :) | 20:51 |
markit | renato: don't install adobe air :) | 20:51 |
BarkingFish | and np, devuberoi | 20:51 |
renato | BarkingFish: So, there's nothing i can do to solve it, right? | 20:51 |
renato | markit: but i need it to run something i want.. | 20:51 |
BarkingFish | renato, I didn't say that. I said you can learn how to do what I mentioned, but I can't teach you :) | 20:51 |
markit | renato: use windows then, don't poison your Free os | 20:51 |
renato | markit: the program i'm trying to run, was developed for linux, it just needs adobe air to run. | 20:52 |
BarkingFish | ok - devuberoi - thank you for hanging on there. May I start by asking what sound card you have in your machine please? | 20:52 |
renato | BarkingFish: In other words, no ,you won't have your problem solved. | 20:52 |
BarkingFish | interpret it how you wish, renato - I'm physically forbidden from teaching you the way I would have fixed it. | 20:53 |
renato | BarkingFish: I googled this problem and there are people who installed it. But nothing works for me. | 20:53 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: i don't know, how do i check? a bit of noob here... it says Redwood HDMI Audio | 20:53 |
BarkingFish | that's good enough for me, devuberoi :) | 20:53 |
markit | renato: if depends upon proprietary software, and needs proprietary software, you are installing then proprietary software... don't understand how things are different just because is needed by "a program for linux". | 20:53 |
markit | if so the developer was very silly, or is a proprietary program for linux itself | 20:54 |
BarkingFish | Can you press ALT + F2, and type konsole please, devuberoi? | 20:54 |
markit | in any case, proprietary program = unknown code an behaviour = a trojan in any case | 20:54 |
devuberoi | on it BarkingFish | 20:54 |
markit | don't sell your freedom for convenience ;P | 20:54 |
devuberoi | on the terminal BarkingFish :) | 20:55 |
renato | markit: well, you don't use adobe flash to play your videos on youtube? | 20:55 |
markit | renato: no, I use gnash | 20:55 |
renato | markit: and yet, you didn't "sell your freedom" | 20:55 |
markit | and if something does not work, is your problem | 20:55 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, when you have konsole open, can you type: lspci please, and look for the audio or sound card in the listing which appears. On that line will be an 8 digit code, seperated into 2 blocks of 4 by a : - can you type it here for me please? | 20:55 |
renato | markit: If you don't want to help, i don't even know why you gave your oppinion in the first place. But whatever.. | 20:56 |
markit | (you = content provider) | 20:56 |
BarkingFish | it's the device ident code, first 4 digits are the maker/vendor, second 4 tell you which product it actually is | 20:56 |
renato | Thanks anyway Barking | 20:56 |
BarkingFish | np | 20:56 |
markit | renato: to save you from doing damage :) | 20:56 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: no 8-digit code appears. it lists 2 audio devices though, one is Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) | 20:58 |
devuberoi | and the other is Radeon HD 5000 series | 20:58 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, that's unusual. could you run lspci -nn please, and check again? I think I might have given you the wrong info :P | 20:59 |
OerHeks | abcd:1234 | 21:00 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, now it works :P 8086:3b56 | 21:00 |
BarkingFish | thank you, devuberoi :) | 21:01 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: and 1002:aa60 for AMD Radeon 5000 series | 21:01 |
devuberoi | its unusual, BarkingFish how can i have 2 audio devices? :O | 21:01 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, the AMD Radeon 5000 is a video card, it is possible it has integrated audio for attachment to something like a video camera or DV device | 21:03 |
BarkingFish | I couldn't rightly tell you, but I know some video devices have audio i/o on them | 21:03 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, oh ok :) | 21:04 |
BarkingFish | As for your main sound card, when you click Kmix on the bottom toolbar, do you get a "mixer" button? | 21:04 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: yup | 21:04 |
BarkingFish | can you click it and open your mixer please, and tell me what channels you have in it? | 21:05 |
BarkingFish | it's perfectly possible you have the wrong channel set as master in there :) | 21:06 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish: i get built in analog audio and HDMI Audio | 21:06 |
BarkingFish | 0.0 | 21:06 |
* BarkingFish finds himself in the depths of pulseaudio again | 21:06 | |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, oh crap, i guess you are right :P | 21:06 |
BarkingFish | What channel comes up on the volume control when you click it? | 21:06 |
BarkingFish | It will either say the name of one or the other of those channels | 21:07 |
devuberoi | HDMI Audio (radeon 5000 series) redwood thingy | 21:07 |
BarkingFish | Yeah. Are you using the HDMI sound or are you using the regular analog sound? | 21:07 |
devuberoi | as of now, HDMI i think | 21:07 |
devuberoi | yup, HDMI it is | 21:08 |
BarkingFish | so the sound card on your PC is hooked up to HDMI, correct? | 21:08 |
BarkingFish | or is it hooked up to regular, bog standard 3.5mm plugged in speakers? | 21:09 |
devuberoi | i have a dell inspiron 14r, its got a 3.5mm plug in jacka and HDMI output as well | 21:09 |
devuberoi | and nothing is connected as of now | 21:09 |
BarkingFish | ah, so it's going through the laptop speakers? | 21:09 |
devuberoi | yup | 21:10 |
BarkingFish | ok - can you click at the top of the mixer block, on settings, and select "Select master channel" please? | 21:10 |
BarkingFish | when the box comes up, can you tell me which channel is marked as the master please (which has the dot next to it?) | 21:11 |
devuberoi | it was HDMI | 21:11 |
BarkingFish | ok, can you set it to Internal analog audio please? and select OK | 21:12 |
devuberoi | ok, did it :) | 21:12 |
BarkingFish | right - now do you have some sound that you can play while we're talking please? | 21:12 |
devuberoi | i''ll try :) | 21:12 |
BarkingFish | great. While you're doing that, can you right click on the kmix Icon, and select quit please? | 21:13 |
devuberoi | built in audio works :P | 21:14 |
BarkingFish | when you've done this, hit the [K] button in the plasma toolbar, and go to multimedia, then select kmix and click on it please? | 21:14 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, i did :) | 21:15 |
BarkingFish | when kmix reopens, if you click on the icon, it should now say "Internal analog audio" at the top | 21:15 |
devuberoi | it does :) | 21:15 |
BarkingFish | if you click the mute icon, does the sound stop totally? | 21:15 |
devuberoi | it does :) | 21:16 |
BarkingFish | excellent. | 21:16 |
devuberoi | thanks a lot BarkingFish :) | 21:16 |
BarkingFish | Pulseaudio kills a lot of the mixer options, devuberoi - it makes it a bit tougher to work out mixer issues, imo | 21:16 |
devuberoi | i guess i should have played a little more with the settings :P | 21:17 |
BarkingFish | and you're welcome. I took PA off here about 2 releases back, never put it back on :) | 21:17 |
BarkingFish | ALSA all the way for me :D | 21:17 |
devuberoi | lol :P | 21:17 |
BarkingFish | i'm glad you're fixed. You might want to reboot now, and make sure that the configuration remains in place when you restart kde :) | 21:18 |
devuberoi | i'll do that, so how exactly do i shift from PA to ALSA? | 21:18 |
devuberoi | :P | 21:18 |
BarkingFish | You would remove pulseaudio entirely by removing its cookies from your /home folder, then purging pulseaudio from your system entirely. You would then need to install alsa-utils and alsamixer | 21:19 |
BarkingFish | if you want help to do that, I'll assist you after you've rebooted, cause we'll probably need to do this again :P | 21:20 |
devuberoi | lol, rebooting right now :P | 21:21 |
devuberoi | see in a while | 21:21 |
BarkingFish | ok, see you in a bit | 21:21 |
BarkingFish | ping me if I'm not talking, just mention my nick and redlight me :) | 21:21 |
Num83rGuy | How can I remove pulse audio and go with pure alsa? I am sick with the feted pile that is pulse. bad sound in flash, massive network usage, bad sound in games, etc. I am fed up. Please point me to something telling me how to remove it frome Kubuntu 12.04 safely and still have sound. | 21:22 |
BarkingFish | Num83rGuy, I will write this process up as a text document and put it on the net. Saves me doing it in channel :) I can probably give it to devuberoi too | 21:23 |
Num83rGuy | OK thank you very much. | 21:24 |
Num83rGuy | Wow it seems I am not alone. | 21:25 |
itatitat | guys is possible to minimize an application in a second panel (I have one in the top of the screen) | 21:26 |
itatitat | ? | 21:26 |
BarkingFish | Num83rGuy, http://pastebin.com/WzCdX3z0 | 21:32 |
BarkingFish | read the bit at the top and take note :) | 21:33 |
BarkingFish | and then off you go/ | 21:33 |
Num83rGuy | Thank you. Is the paste permanent? If so can I put it up on G+? | 21:34 |
BarkingFish | Num83rGuy, no, you can't put it up on G+. Sorry - it's an unlisted paste :) | 21:34 |
BarkingFish | If I'd made it public, you could have put it anywhere. | 21:34 |
Num83rGuy | OK no problem thanks agan. | 21:35 |
BarkingFish | be aware, for lines 6 and 7, start those 2 commands with sudo :) | 21:35 |
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devuberoi | BarkingFish, my laptop refuses to detect wireless network, had to shift to my desktop :( | 21:36 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, that's odd. | 21:36 |
devuberoi | rebooted 3 times | 21:36 |
BarkingFish | unfortunately, unless you want help with ndiswrapper, i'm crud with networking :P | 21:37 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, i have a BCM4313 (Broadcom) Wireless card, which as per my search is giving issues to everyone who has it :/ | 21:37 |
BarkingFish | i do however, have the removal instructions for PA here - i posted them to pastebin.com. rather than explain them in channel - just be aware, for commands 6 and 7, you will need to start those with sudo :) | 21:38 |
BarkingFish | http://pastebin.com/WzCdX3z0 | 21:38 |
devuberoi | cool, thanks :) | 21:38 |
BarkingFish | ah. The broadcom saga :D I don't mess with networking unless I'm doing ndiswrapper, which is how I get on the net here - my USB Wifi adapter isn't supported officially yet | 21:38 |
devuberoi | lol, so do i also use ndiswrapper with windows drivers? :P | 21:42 |
BarkingFish | yeah | 21:43 |
BarkingFish | you have to set up ndiswrapper using the drivers which your device came with or (like me) you can download them from the net | 21:44 |
devuberoi | the official wiki list of ndiswrapper does not have my PCI card :( | 21:45 |
BarkingFish | it doesn't have mine on it either, doesn't mean you can't get it working :) | 21:45 |
OerHeks | broadcom should work, 4313 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing_STA_drivers | 21:47 |
devuberoi | it does, but erractically | 21:47 |
BarkingFish | OerHeks, it was doing from what I gather - devuberoi was on it fine prior to rebooting after I got their sound sorted | 21:48 |
devuberoi | works fine for 2-3 boots, but the 4th time i boot the system again, it does not detect any network unless i boot it again for few times | 21:48 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, OerHeks, i have the proprietary drivers installed and enabled via ADDITIONAL DRIVERS section | 21:49 |
devuberoi | still it gives me headache | 21:50 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, there? | 21:56 |
BarkingFish | busy, won't be a moment :) just dealing with a phone call | 22:00 |
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BarkingFish | back | 22:05 |
BarkingFish | sorry about that | 22:05 |
Spiker | Hey there.... Looking for some assistance | 22:05 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, so - how did you get on? | 22:06 |
Spiker | It's to do with the "Memory Status Widget" | 22:06 |
BarkingFish | ah, you probably couldn't finish I'd imagine. If you couldn't get on the net from your laptop, you couldn't finish step 7 L( | 22:06 |
Brustofski-Fan | what is on the dvd that is not on the cd? | 22:10 |
Spiker | Anyone can help me with my problem? | 22:12 |
devuberoi | still on the desktop :P | 22:13 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, how do i install the driver with ndiswrapper? | 22:13 |
devuberoi | it gives me error as no such file exists when i type ndiswrapper -i bcmvwl | 22:14 |
devuberoi | it gives me error as no such file exists when i type ndiswrapper -i bcmvwl.inf | 22:14 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, the thing is - you need to be connected to the net on the laptop in order to get this to work - the new ndiswrapper module isn't on any of the old iso disks | 22:14 |
BarkingFish | oh sugar. nvm | 22:15 |
devuberoi | i installed the ndiswrapper via usd | 22:15 |
devuberoi | usb* | 22:15 |
BarkingFish | you're on 12.04 - you have the new ndiswrapper module anyway :) | 22:15 |
devuberoi | oh :P | 22:15 |
BarkingFish | ok - ndiswrapper is dkms supported now | 22:15 |
devuberoi | i still installed the testing version from sourceforge | 22:15 |
BarkingFish | 0.o | 22:15 |
devuberoi | i sense something wrong here :P | 22:16 |
tomglory24 | hi | 22:16 |
BarkingFish | right - the first thing you need to then is have the files available to you. where do you have your bcm drivers? on cd or usb? | 22:16 |
devuberoi | usb | 22:17 |
BarkingFish | excellent. can you cd to whichever folder or file your usb is mounted at please? | 22:17 |
devuberoi | yup, done | 22:17 |
BarkingFish | and then cd into the right folder for the bcm drivers | 22:17 |
devuberoi | yup | 22:17 |
devuberoi | done | 22:17 |
BarkingFish | ok - can you type ndiswrapper -l please (that's l as in Lima) | 22:18 |
devuberoi | did | 22:18 |
BarkingFish | sorry, i do that cause my font is funny - l and i almost look the same on here, and my eyesight isn't hot :) | 22:18 |
devuberoi | lol :P | 22:18 |
BarkingFish | ok - you should have gotten no response from it, just your prompt | 22:19 |
devuberoi | yup | 22:19 |
BarkingFish | right, next - type the ndiswrapper -i command with the .inf file you want to install. | 22:19 |
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devuberoi | i did that, thats where it says no such file at usr/sbin/wrapper | 22:21 |
BarkingFish | ok, you've not got ndiswrapper installed properly then. | 22:21 |
devuberoi | oh great | 22:21 |
devuberoi | how do i do that now ? | 22:22 |
BarkingFish | you need three files to make ndiswrapper work correctly - ndiswrapper-dkms, ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils | 22:22 |
BarkingFish | if you can download those three files from our local pools, onto a USB stick, and copy them into your laptop, we can go from there. | 22:23 |
BarkingFish | Hold on and I will get you a link to do this. | 22:23 |
devuberoi | okay | 22:24 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ | 22:24 |
BarkingFish | that is for the ndiswrapper common and utils files, get the common ending in all.deb and utils ending in i386.deb | 22:25 |
BarkingFish | i will find the ndiswrapper-dkms and link you to that too | 22:26 |
devuberoi | i have a 64 bit system :P | 22:26 |
BarkingFish | oopsie | 22:27 |
BarkingFish | hold on then | 22:27 |
devuberoi | :) | 22:27 |
BarkingFish | here, you need to get ndiswrapper-dkms_1.56-3_all.deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper/ | 22:27 |
devuberoi | not the 1.57 ? the rest i did 1.57 | 22:28 |
BarkingFish | well yeah, get 1.57 if you wish :) | 22:29 |
BarkingFish | I have still got 1.56 on here, but 1.57 won't be much different, it may not even be different at all :) | 22:29 |
devuberoi | oh ok :) | 22:29 |
devuberoi | now i install these right? | 22:29 |
BarkingFish | have you saved those files to your usb stick? | 22:30 |
devuberoi | yup | 22:30 |
devuberoi | loaded on the laptop as well | 22:30 |
BarkingFish | ok - do you know how to install packages locally? | 22:30 |
devuberoi | i just install them through QApt | 22:31 |
BarkingFish | you need to install them in a particular order to get this right though | 22:31 |
devuberoi | oh | 22:31 |
BarkingFish | common first, devuberoi - then utils, then the dkms package | 22:31 |
devuberoi | how ? | 22:31 |
devuberoi | ok | 22:31 |
BarkingFish | if you don't have the common files there, the other 2 will fail as having missing dependencies :) | 22:32 |
devuberoi | cool :) | 22:32 |
devuberoi | done | 22:34 |
BarkingFish | excellent. Now you can try the ndiswrapper commands again. start with the ndiswrapper -i command | 22:34 |
BarkingFish | it should work, if not you may need to reboot to allow dkms to build ndiswrapper | 22:35 |
devuberoi | rebooting | 22:36 |
BarkingFish | ok | 22:36 |
devuberoi | the best part would be my wifi card starts working after the boot :P | 22:37 |
BarkingFish | not yet it won't, we got stuff to do first :) | 22:37 |
BarkingFish | it will do if we can get ndiswrapper functioning :) | 22:38 |
devuberoi | a big LOL, now its connected to my home wifi :P | 22:38 |
devuberoi | #facepalm | 22:38 |
BarkingFish | 0.0 | 22:38 |
devuberoi | yeah, it happens :P | 22:40 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, ok i installed, and it says driver installed, device (14E4:4727) present | 22:44 |
BarkingFish | excellent. | 22:45 |
BarkingFish | Now what we need to do is confirm assignment to the device. | 22:45 |
devuberoi | oh ok | 22:45 |
BarkingFish | so - in a terminal, type: ndiswrapper -a 14E4:4727 (driver name without the .inf) | 22:45 |
BarkingFish | you should get told the device is already using that driver | 22:46 |
devuberoi | it says driver already used for 14e4:4727 | 22:49 |
BarkingFish | excellent | 22:49 |
BarkingFish | 3 more little steps and we're away | 22:49 |
devuberoi | oh cool | 22:49 |
BarkingFish | 3 small commands then, run each seperately and hit enter after each one :) | 22:49 |
devuberoi | okay :) | 22:50 |
BarkingFish | ndiswrapper -m ndiswrapper -ma ndiswrapper -mi | 22:50 |
devuberoi | done :) | 22:51 |
BarkingFish | ok - so the very very last step then. Can you uninstall your proprietary drivers please? It's possible they may interfere with ndiswrapper, they'll both try to activate the wifi :) | 22:52 |
devuberoi | okay :) | 22:53 |
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devuberoi | cool, its done now :) | 22:56 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, thr? | 22:56 |
BarkingFish | yup | 22:57 |
BarkingFish | ok, now just type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper | 22:57 |
BarkingFish | then restart kde (not your whole machine) and you should be able to get straight back onto the net | 22:57 |
BarkingFish | to restart kde from the terminal, type: sudo service kdm restart | 22:58 |
BarkingFish | you'll vanish from here if you're on the laptop | 22:58 |
devuberoi | not showing any wireless card now :( | 23:01 |
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harp | How can I setup an kubuntu system to be logged in from another computer over the web? | 23:04 |
BarkingFish | devuberoi, ok - you've rebooted, and it's coming up with no wireless device at all... | 23:04 |
BarkingFish | that is unusual. | 23:04 |
devuberoi | nope, nothing | 23:05 |
BarkingFish | can you open up your konsole, and type: ndiswrapper -l please | 23:13 |
BarkingFish | just check ndiswrapper is picking up and finding something | 23:13 |
devuberoi | yup | 23:13 |
devuberoi | driver installed, device present | 23:14 |
BarkingFish | ok, then can you do this for me please? | 23:14 |
BarkingFish | sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper | 23:14 |
devuberoi | did | 23:15 |
BarkingFish | ok, look at your network manager - you should have a red square, white X in the middle, yes? | 23:15 |
devuberoi | yup | 23:15 |
devuberoi | lan jack icon with red box x | 23:16 |
BarkingFish | ok, back to your terminal, and can you please type: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper | 23:16 |
BarkingFish | if ndiswrapper picks up, the red box, white X will disappear | 23:16 |
devuberoi | nope, same | 23:17 |
BarkingFish | :( | 23:17 |
BarkingFish | ok, can you type iwconfig please? | 23:17 |
devuberoi | did, lo no wireless extensions, eth0 no wireless extensions | 23:18 |
BarkingFish | dang | 23:18 |
BarkingFish | ok, please give me one moment while I go check for something :) | 23:18 |
devuberoi | ok | 23:18 |
BarkingFish | right, could you cd to /etc/modprobe.d please? :) | 23:20 |
devuberoi | did | 23:20 |
BarkingFish | now, can you type: vi ndiswrapper.conf please? | 23:21 |
devuberoi | did, then? | 23:21 |
BarkingFish | can you tell me - is there anything in that file? | 23:22 |
devuberoi | lot of install lines | 23:23 |
BarkingFish | can you see any in there which have this attached to them: alias wlan0 ndiswrapper | 23:26 |
devuberoi | none | 23:28 |
devuberoi | :/ | 23:29 |
devuberoi | its 5:0 AM here, i think i should sleep, work tomorrow :P | 23:30 |
devuberoi | BarkingFish, will catch up later i guess :) what time you come on IRC ? | 23:31 |
BarkingFish | Ok - so it's 5 am where you are. | 23:31 |
BarkingFish | It's 00:30 here - | 23:31 |
devuberoi | yup, too late/early :P | 23:32 |
BarkingFish | I normally come on the net about 19:00 (7PM) my time. | 23:32 |
devuberoi | what seems to be the issue? any idea? | 23:32 |
devuberoi | oh cool | 23:32 |
BarkingFish | Which is about midnightish where you are. | 23:32 |
devuberoi | yup :) | 23:32 |
BarkingFish | It sounds to me like you haven't got an alias set up for your wireless card in the ndiswrapper config. | 23:32 |
devuberoi | will catch you that time again tomorrow :) | 23:33 |
devuberoi | any fix for that? | 23:33 |
BarkingFish | It might be we need to fix that, otherwise ndiswrapper doesn't know what it's supposed to be running :) | 23:33 |
BarkingFish | yeah - I'll go over it with you tomorrow night | 23:33 |
devuberoi | cool, thanks mate :) | 23:33 |
BarkingFish | no probs, you're welcome | 23:34 |
BarkingFish | have a good night's sleep :) | 23:34 |
BarkingFish | we can work tomorrow when you're refreshed | 23:34 |
devuberoi | sure, will catch you tomorrow :) gnyt :) | 23:36 |
BarkingFish | bye | 23:37 |
BarkingFish | :) | 23:37 |
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