[00:48] Hi, the whole screen seems to flicker when ever a notification pops from the tray. Is this known issue ? [01:19] Chaser: doesn't occur on any of my machines, guessing it's a video driver interaction thing..have a look on bugzilla and if you can't see anything similar feel free to create a new report === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [04:22] damn, its always somethin with this os isnt it? [04:28] anyone know why flash player crashes all the time in 12.04? [04:37] im going back to 10.04 or buying a mac [04:38] this is ridiculous [04:58] ubottu: you probably need to ask adobe that .. [04:58] amason: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:58] oops that was meant for uberdub [04:58] ubottu: i do you think your intelligent...you need to learn to value your self more [04:58] amason: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:59] i guess your right, otherwise you'd have been programmed with more phrases [04:59] * amason is bored [05:01] LOL === tuv0k is now known as darthanubis === flint is now known as flint__ === rodrigo is now known as Guest91629 [06:36] buenas noches alguien que hable y escriba español [06:58] Good morning [07:00] lordievader: Good morning [07:01] Hey DFrostedWang, how are you? [07:03] Okay [07:04] Got my computer all set up w/ LVM, got my Winblows PC working enough to mod my Skyrim savegame... [07:07] That is a first that Windows keeps working XD [07:11] That computer also has SliTaz linux on it, Winblows is just for modding and those things microxp can't do === Rajesh is now known as Guest75996 === kubuntu is now known as Guest33725 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:22] hey, anyone know why my systray clock displays UTC? i actually wana see CET.. (got Kubuntu 12.04) [10:25] dsan: change it [10:25] dsan: you maybe set it to display utc [10:25] in the installation i mean [10:26] Peace: how? [10:26] when i go to settings it shows the CET [10:30] solved it. thx anyway === black0ut is now known as poo === poo is now known as black0ut === leon is now known as Guest79270 [11:32] Howdy all [11:37] hi, if I've standard backport repositories, but not ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, will kde 4.9 come to 12.04 sooner or later or it will stay on 4.8.x? [11:39] markit, it will stay on 4.8 afaik until your version upgrades to a new kernel [11:44] markit, adding the backport won't hurt your system , actually it will help upgrade it ..4.9 runs very smoothly here [11:57] hello from China [12:03] phil__: hi [12:03] hi [12:11] BluesKaj: I've a LTSP installation for school... I'm tempted by 4.9, but wondering if works fine and, if in the future will come 4.10, it will work fine too [12:12] I've customized kde a little, so I have to re-test (i.e. disable akonadi since eats too resources and no students use it) === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest53650 [12:15] markit, your akonadi settings will be retained in 4.0 , I also have it disabled and it remained so after upgrading to kde 4.9 [12:15] 4.0=4.9 [12:16] BluesKaj: good, because with kubuntu 11.10 I had a lot of messages complaining about this disable (worked fine in 11.04) [12:22] markit, you can make the akonadi disable setting, more permanent by unchecking it in systemsettings>stsrtup&shutdown>service manager , then adding to the textbox in session management , "applications to be excluded from sessions" , then checking the "restore previous sessions" box. [12:28] markit, like so , http://imagebin.org/224046 [12:30] markit, or here , (smaller image) http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/10/snapshot2.png [12:31] BluesKaj: mmm I went to the specific option in the configuation panel and disabled from there [12:32] desktop search and disabled nepomuk (urgh, I said akonadi!) [12:32] well , that's your choice , but i did both to make sure , markit [12:32] BluesKaj: thanks for the tip, I will experiment a little [12:33] nepomuk and akonadi are linked I'm afraid [12:33] yes, I think so. Btw I changed akonadi backend from mysql to sqlite [12:33] with mysql each student account had 120MB of wasted space in their home [12:33] (multiply for 300+ students...) [12:34] well, i don't bother with sql settings since I don't use the server anyway === jtheuer__ is now known as jtheuer [12:34] BluesKaj: but the file is created anyway [12:36] I would love to disable activities globally anyway... students don't use them and they mess them up instead [12:36] also I miss A LOT the firefox-kde package [12:36] without it firefox is a mess to use for illeterate IT students [12:37] (average people, anyway) [12:39] markit, where is the mysql file located ? [12:40] I install akonadi-backend-sqlite first [12:40] then I remove .local/share/akonadi [12:40] and edit .config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc [12:40] are kde 4.9 stable to upgrade kubuntu from ppa backport ? [12:40] (I edit a global file instead, but should be ok that file for your account) [12:41] in [General] I put Driver=QSQLITE3 [12:42] BluesKaj: try du -csh .local/share/akonadi [12:43] maybe 4.9 has sqlite3 again by default, I remember something about it but I could be wrong, and I dubt it will change already present settings [12:43] (should create a new account and try) [12:44] aguitel: BluesKaj says he is using it and works, I'm trying right now in a LTSP installation, I've done in a laptop and works fine so far [12:44] markit, no such file ".local/share/akonadi" , i couldn't find it in ~/ either [12:44] but I assume no responsabilities ;P [12:45] BluesKaj: is a directory... drwxr-xr-x 2 marco marco 4096 ago 10 10:44 .local/share/akonadi [12:45] aguitel, yes 4.9 is fine for home use [12:46] (and of course under your home) [12:46] markit, it's not under my home dir === leon is now known as Guest81291 [12:46] markit, BluesKaj thanks [12:46] i don't have the database enabled in akonadi [12:47] BluesKaj: how can you disable? and as far as I know is created when you log the first time with an user, so your main user should have since installation [12:47] but if is not there, there is no problem :) [12:49] markit, just make sure mysql internalcserver isn't checked in akonadi server configuration [12:50] mysql internal server , rather [12:53] BluesKaj: I'm surprised everyithing works fine for you without akonadi... I thought KDE was depending more and more on it [12:53] goin to a "Vista experience" where everything trashes "just to help the user anticipating their needs" [12:54] Can someone point me in the right direction on how to troubleshoot why Banshee continues to lock up shortly after it is started. [12:55] markit, yes , if you use the PIM , then akonadi has some requirements , but i don't use kmail or kontact and one can remove them safely without taking the kubuntu desktop with it === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk === nathanael is now known as natschil [13:26] Hi. Can someone help me? When I try to install the package "kdeartwork-theme-window" it fails saying that it depends on a nonexistent package "libkdecorations4abi1". [13:27] I'm using KDE 4.8.5 [13:29] nonexistent or available from another source , t2zhu ? [13:31] The package *does* exist, but only in the Beta and Backports versions of the Kubuntu repository [13:33] t2zhu, then you may be required to upgrade your kde version to use that theme [13:35] I do have a package called "libkdecorations4", though... [13:36] By the way, how do you reply on IRC? [13:37] how do you mean ? [13:40] It seems to me that I shouldn't have to install kubuntu-backports just so I can install a package that lives on kubuntu-updates === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:42] t2zhu, what do you mean by "how do you reply on IRC?" [13:44] Oh... as in... how do you make your reply to me highlighted? [13:44] to reply personally , type the first few letters of the persons nick and complete it by using the tab key [13:46] depends on the irc client , where highlight own nick with colour options is located [13:46] BluesKaj: Ah... thanks [13:46] it's obviously enabled by default in quassel [13:47] BluesKaj: But this isn't a private message, right? Everyone can still see? [13:49] Why ist it, that Kubuntu Uses the lower DVI port as primary display and windows the upper port? [13:49] yes it's in the chat test , pm-ing is discouraged as a support method , t2zhu [13:49] Its really annoying! [13:51] BluesKaj: So back to my question, do I really have to install kubuntu-backports so that I can install kdeartwork-theme-window in the kubuntu updates package? [13:51] faglnar, can you set them in the display & monitor settings or in your graphics card GUI [13:52] BluesKaj: Yes I can set them, but only per user. How can I set it that the entire system uses the big monitor by default as primary screen in its native resolution? [13:53] t2zhu, dunno for sure , you might find the theme in www.kde-look.org [13:53] Also the per user setting is not saved between reboots [13:56] faglnar, in system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , make sure "restore previous settings " is checked ..also make sure your chosen settings in monitor and display are "set as default" [13:56] faglnar: are you using nvidia and the proprietary driver? [13:57] ati oss driver [13:57] * hateball slowly backs away [13:57] faglnar, oss is audio [13:58] i mean the open source one not oss audio system [13:58] lol [13:59] faglnar, glxinfo | grep OpenG [13:59] faglnar, glxinfo | grep OpenGL [14:00] what's the version string , faglnar [14:00] OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CYPRESS OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 [14:00] OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 [14:01] (i tried to pipe the grep to pastebinit but it wont work) [14:04] does ati use the mesa driver as default , like nouveau is with nvidia ..seems so ..fag have you you checked for additional drivers in kmenu>apps>system? [14:04] btw in systemsettings>startup&shutdown>sessionmanagement is no restore settings, only restore session, but i dont want previously open programs to be reopened on login [14:05] yes it has the fglrx or the fglrx-updates drivers [14:05] restore session assumes you close apps before logging out [14:05] install the fglrx driver [14:05] no [14:05] why not ? [14:06] it will make my system crash every hour [14:06] when installed everything feels unstable, lots of stuff crashes and vmware instacrashes the entire system [14:07] its definitely not usabla [14:07] fag have you updated/upgraded the system since , it might be more stable now , if you haven't [14:08] faglnar,^ [14:08] i do regular updates and the last time i tried it was 2 weeks ago [14:08] same shit as usual [14:12] My xrandr not detect the second monitor. [14:12] nice language , faglnar ...it's not necessary here [14:13] okay wont use that further [14:17] starlook, never used xrander , have you tried opngl instead ? [14:18] opengl rather [14:20] er xrender [14:25] hi all [14:25] what app is that: http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/whatisthat.png ? [14:25] * faglnar goes offline for the fucking shits sake of anal ruptured cockslaves === ruben is now known as Guest4524 [15:58] on a 64 bit laptop installation hp dv7 i for some reason have nothing but a blue screen, wtf? help! [15:59] the dv7 update for the thing didn't work [15:59] is that why? [16:00] and every install says cannot mark all in package manager, what's up there? === leon is now known as Guest60465 === kish_ is now known as kish === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === mck182|afk is now known as mck182 [17:15] can anyone tell me where exactly ""/path/to/your/kde4/install/dir"" is in ubuntu? [17:23] ok123_: /usr/bin [17:37] Hi there, could someone help me really fast? :) [17:38] Having some issues installing adobe AIR :x === renato|2 is now known as renatof [17:38] someone? :x [17:41] Anyone here???? [17:42] erikja: erikja: [17:43] ? [17:44] you know about kubuntu erikja? [17:44] could you help me? [17:44] what's about ? [17:44] about adobe AIR [17:44] i get an error. [17:45] negative, I know of KDE, as I run opensuse [17:45] about permissions. admin won't let me install it or i don't have enough permissions to install. But i'm the admin :x [17:45] well, kubuntu is KDE [17:45] install it as admin [17:45] how to do that? :s [17:45] i usually just use the terminal doing sudo ./ [17:45] yes that's one way [17:45] how can i run it as admin? :S [17:46] can you explain me? [17:46] you do run as admin with sudo [17:46] oh, i did that, but thats when i get that error. [17:46] does Kubunut use zypper ? [17:46] i also tryed runing as sudo su but not working either [17:47] What eaxcatly did you do ? [17:47] first i downloaded it. [17:47] and [17:47] then i did chmod +x Adobe.bin [17:47] then i did sudo ./Adobe.bin [17:47] and i get that error [17:47] i also tryes [17:47] sudo su [17:47] renatof: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [17:47] but that way it didn't even open [17:48] FloodBotK1, ok you take over bye [17:48] well, you won't help me then? :x [17:48] yes I will, but FloodBotK1 took over from me [17:49] flood is a bot, it won't help me at all D: [17:50] erikja: do you want to talk in private? [17:54] renatof, http://kubuntu101.blogspot.dk/2009/05/installing-adobe-air-in-kubuntu.html [17:57] erikja, this is more recent, and suited for kubuntu >>> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-adobe-flash-reader-air-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [17:59] OerHeks thats my doubts. erikja was trying to help me. [17:59] but still, it is not working. i still have the same permission issue. [17:59] I am on gnome/unity and it doesn't work for me. [17:59] I can't fix it :( [18:00] the common error on gnome is about kwallet i guess, right? [18:00] thats easy to fix. [18:00] but i'm on KDE [18:00] i can't install adobe air. [18:00] it say i need to ask for permission to the admin, but i don't know how :x === ubuntu__ is now known as Guest34960 [18:22] anyone who would like to test a better virtuoso for precise? [18:29] hello [18:29] shadeslayer: Virtuoso? How better? [18:30] DarthFrog: upstream recommends it, has bug fixes and says it's faster [18:30] OK, what do you want me to do? [18:30] DarthFrog: I'll upload a package in a couple of minutes to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental, please add the PPA and upgrade [18:31] then search for a file that nepomuk has already indexed ( via dolphin or krunner ) [18:32] Heh, "DO NOT INSTALL!" Very comforting, that. [18:33] nowwwwwwwwww [18:34] I am ARGENTINIAN [18:34] DarthFrog: ok, that's for people who unknowingly install PPA's :P [18:34] Only install that PPA when I say it's ok :P [18:34] hector__: hi [18:34] mierda [18:35] !ar | hector__ [18:35] hector__: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [18:36] tank you [18:38] virtuoso sure does have alot of tests .... === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === patrick is now known as Guest49074 [19:46] hola [19:47] hhh [19:47] no habla espagnola [19:47] alguien de chile [19:48] alguien de arica [19:50] !es [19:50] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [19:51] Hi there. Someone helpfull here? [19:53] Ok, apparently not.. [19:58] Why is this IRC on kunbutu's webpage if nobody here helps? [20:02] !details | renato [20:02] renato: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [20:02] renato: if you'd just ask your question ... maybe someone would have answered [20:04] Well, i have a problem installing Adobe AIR on kubuntu 12.04. When i try to install it using sudo ./Adobe.bin, i get an error that say something like "You don't have admin permissions. Contact the admin" I'm the admin, so i don't know what to do to install it. [20:10] So, can you help me to fix it? [20:12] renato, did you perform " sudo chmod +x AdobeAIRInstaller.bin " ? [20:13] yes i did. [20:13] OerHeks: yes i did. [20:13] Then i don't understand the permission issue. [20:14] * OerHeks was peeking @ http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-adobe-flash-reader-air-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [20:14] Me neither, i don't know what to do and i really need it :/ [20:14] want some screens? [20:15] Its in portuguese but i think its easy to see and understand.. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:16] OerHeks: do you think there is a way to fix it? [20:16] are you running 32bit or 64bit ? [20:16] 32bit [20:16] i run 64 bit so i gave up, since ubuntu is multi-arch. [20:17] so, you can't help me? [20:17] i am not sure, post the screenshot with the error, or use ubuntu.paste.com for text only [20:18] I'll send you a screenshot in private ok? [20:18] Its in portuguse, is that a problem for you or you can translate? [20:18] please here, so anyone can comment/help [20:18] ok ok. [20:19] what program does need adobe-air, bytheway? [20:20] a game. If i make it work i can completly migrate for linux. But i need something to entretain myself.. [20:20] I can make it run with wine, but it glitches a little bit sometimes. [20:20] and it is linux compatible so, why not runing it well? [20:24] evening all - need a little help. I'm in Firefox right now, and I have got mailto: links on a page I use. If I click them, nada happens. Is there any way to config the system on what progs should open what types of links? [20:30] OerHeks: I shared the screenshot, how can i post it here? [20:31] renato, are you on the page with the screenshot now? if so, just copy the url from the address bar, and paste it here :) [20:32] Ohhhh, nvm.. i thought i needed to share it on the IRC client.. nvm, stupid me. I'll post it on imageshake or something like that and post it here [20:33] BarkingFish: What do you want it to open when you hit a mailto: link? [20:34] kmail, genii-around [20:37] ok i have the error here [20:37] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/erroradobeair.png/ [20:37] BarkingFish: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto should be set to "true" and network.protocol-handler.app.mailto should be set to "kmail" ( in about:config ) [20:38] genii-around: genii D: [20:39] l, [20:39] ok genii-around - I will get to that. [20:39] Thanks :) [20:40] And renato - I can barely just see the error, and my portuguese isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, Adobe Air isn't letting you install because apparently that feature is locked out by an administrator... right? [20:40] imageshack.us isn't letting me zoom in on the pic :( [20:40] Thats right Barking [20:40] and i don't know how to fix it :( [20:41] This is my computer, shouldn't i be the administrator? How can i fix it? [20:42] I tryed to sudo it. I just can't go through it :( [20:44] genii-around, how do I add that second line you mentioned into my config - the network.protocol-handler.app.mailto is not in my config [20:45] BarkingFish: right-click on browser screen... select New...String [20:45] ok :) [20:46] right, 'tis done. I will test that now :) [20:46] BarkingFish: You don't know how to fix my issue? [20:46] normally, renato - I would have done that by simply logging into the whole desktop as root, and doing it there. [20:47] BarkingFish: and how can i do that? :x [20:47] Unfortunately, being a signatory to ubuntu's code of conduct means I have to abide by their rules, so I'm not allowed to aid or assist a user in setting up a root account, root password, or teaching them how to do so. [20:47] BarkingFish: Is by doing sudo su? Becouse i tryed that too but its not working [20:47] I'd be for the high jump :( [20:48] i am having an audio issue with kubuntu 12.04 LTS, even if i mute the audio, it still is not actually mute. Only the icon shows its mute. [20:48] renato: Have you tried with kdesudo instead? [20:48] anyone with same issue? [20:48] BarkingFish: So... i won't have this issue solved, right? [20:48] I certainly can't help you or tell you how to do it - if you want to google and read how to do it, I can't stop you there :) [20:48] genii-around: kdesudo? i don't think so. [20:48] genii-around: its just that? kdesudo ./? [20:49] renato: Yes, instead of sudo [20:49] but anything you do in a root account is pretty lethal to your machine, it won't question anything you do - so if you do it, on your own head be it :) [20:49] * genii-around makes sure BarkingFish gets a cookie for being good [20:49] genii-around: it didn't work doing kdesudo :/ [20:49] BarkingFish: don't worry, i don't even know how to do it, so i won't.. [20:50] very wise. [20:50] I guess i won't this problem solved :( [20:50] guys can anyone help me with audio problem on kubuntu? [20:50] "He who plays around in root, is likely to kill tree" [20:50] devuberoi, be patient - we will be with you shortly. [20:50] renato: OMHO, better stay away from proprietary programs as much as you can [20:50] work, afk [20:50] markit: how so? [20:50] BarkingFish: sorry, and thanks :) [20:51] bbfn genii-around - and thanks for the help :) [20:51] renato: don't install adobe air :) [20:51] and np, devuberoi [20:51] BarkingFish: So, there's nothing i can do to solve it, right? [20:51] markit: but i need it to run something i want.. [20:51] renato, I didn't say that. I said you can learn how to do what I mentioned, but I can't teach you :) [20:51] renato: use windows then, don't poison your Free os [20:52] markit: the program i'm trying to run, was developed for linux, it just needs adobe air to run. [20:52] ok - devuberoi - thank you for hanging on there. May I start by asking what sound card you have in your machine please? [20:52] BarkingFish: In other words, no ,you won't have your problem solved. [20:53] interpret it how you wish, renato - I'm physically forbidden from teaching you the way I would have fixed it. [20:53] BarkingFish: I googled this problem and there are people who installed it. But nothing works for me. [20:53] BarkingFish: i don't know, how do i check? a bit of noob here... it says Redwood HDMI Audio [20:53] that's good enough for me, devuberoi :) [20:53] renato: if depends upon proprietary software, and needs proprietary software, you are installing then proprietary software... don't understand how things are different just because is needed by "a program for linux". [20:54] if so the developer was very silly, or is a proprietary program for linux itself [20:54] Can you press ALT + F2, and type konsole please, devuberoi? [20:54] in any case, proprietary program = unknown code an behaviour = a trojan in any case [20:54] on it BarkingFish [20:54] don't sell your freedom for convenience ;P [20:55] on the terminal BarkingFish :) [20:55] markit: well, you don't use adobe flash to play your videos on youtube? [20:55] renato: no, I use gnash [20:55] markit: and yet, you didn't "sell your freedom" [20:55] and if something does not work, is your problem [20:55] devuberoi, when you have konsole open, can you type: lspci please, and look for the audio or sound card in the listing which appears. On that line will be an 8 digit code, seperated into 2 blocks of 4 by a : - can you type it here for me please? [20:56] markit: If you don't want to help, i don't even know why you gave your oppinion in the first place. But whatever.. [20:56] (you = content provider) [20:56] it's the device ident code, first 4 digits are the maker/vendor, second 4 tell you which product it actually is [20:56] Thanks anyway Barking [20:56] np [20:56] renato: to save you from doing damage :) [20:58] BarkingFish: no 8-digit code appears. it lists 2 audio devices though, one is Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) [20:58] and the other is Radeon HD 5000 series [20:59] devuberoi, that's unusual. could you run lspci -nn please, and check again? I think I might have given you the wrong info :P [21:00] abcd:1234 [21:00] BarkingFish, now it works :P 8086:3b56 [21:01] thank you, devuberoi :) [21:01] BarkingFish: and 1002:aa60 for AMD Radeon 5000 series [21:01] its unusual, BarkingFish how can i have 2 audio devices? :O [21:03] devuberoi, the AMD Radeon 5000 is a video card, it is possible it has integrated audio for attachment to something like a video camera or DV device [21:03] I couldn't rightly tell you, but I know some video devices have audio i/o on them [21:04] BarkingFish, oh ok :) [21:04] As for your main sound card, when you click Kmix on the bottom toolbar, do you get a "mixer" button? [21:04] BarkingFish: yup [21:05] can you click it and open your mixer please, and tell me what channels you have in it? [21:06] it's perfectly possible you have the wrong channel set as master in there :) [21:06] BarkingFish: i get built in analog audio and HDMI Audio [21:06] 0.0 [21:06] * BarkingFish finds himself in the depths of pulseaudio again [21:06] BarkingFish, oh crap, i guess you are right :P [21:06] What channel comes up on the volume control when you click it? [21:07] It will either say the name of one or the other of those channels [21:07] HDMI Audio (radeon 5000 series) redwood thingy [21:07] Yeah. Are you using the HDMI sound or are you using the regular analog sound? [21:07] as of now, HDMI i think [21:08] yup, HDMI it is [21:08] so the sound card on your PC is hooked up to HDMI, correct? [21:09] or is it hooked up to regular, bog standard 3.5mm plugged in speakers? [21:09] i have a dell inspiron 14r, its got a 3.5mm plug in jacka and HDMI output as well [21:09] and nothing is connected as of now [21:09] ah, so it's going through the laptop speakers? [21:10] yup [21:10] ok - can you click at the top of the mixer block, on settings, and select "Select master channel" please? [21:11] when the box comes up, can you tell me which channel is marked as the master please (which has the dot next to it?) [21:11] it was HDMI [21:12] ok, can you set it to Internal analog audio please? and select OK [21:12] ok, did it :) [21:12] right - now do you have some sound that you can play while we're talking please? [21:12] i''ll try :) [21:13] great. While you're doing that, can you right click on the kmix Icon, and select quit please? [21:14] built in audio works :P [21:14] when you've done this, hit the [K] button in the plasma toolbar, and go to multimedia, then select kmix and click on it please? [21:15] BarkingFish, i did :) [21:15] when kmix reopens, if you click on the icon, it should now say "Internal analog audio" at the top [21:15] it does :) [21:15] if you click the mute icon, does the sound stop totally? [21:16] it does :) [21:16] excellent. [21:16] thanks a lot BarkingFish :) [21:16] Pulseaudio kills a lot of the mixer options, devuberoi - it makes it a bit tougher to work out mixer issues, imo [21:17] i guess i should have played a little more with the settings :P [21:17] and you're welcome. I took PA off here about 2 releases back, never put it back on :) [21:17] ALSA all the way for me :D [21:17] lol :P [21:18] i'm glad you're fixed. You might want to reboot now, and make sure that the configuration remains in place when you restart kde :) [21:18] i'll do that, so how exactly do i shift from PA to ALSA? [21:18] :P [21:19] You would remove pulseaudio entirely by removing its cookies from your /home folder, then purging pulseaudio from your system entirely. You would then need to install alsa-utils and alsamixer [21:20] if you want help to do that, I'll assist you after you've rebooted, cause we'll probably need to do this again :P [21:21] lol, rebooting right now :P [21:21] see in a while [21:21] ok, see you in a bit [21:21] ping me if I'm not talking, just mention my nick and redlight me :) [21:22] How can I remove pulse audio and go with pure alsa? I am sick with the feted pile that is pulse. bad sound in flash, massive network usage, bad sound in games, etc. I am fed up. Please point me to something telling me how to remove it frome Kubuntu 12.04 safely and still have sound. [21:23] Num83rGuy, I will write this process up as a text document and put it on the net. Saves me doing it in channel :) I can probably give it to devuberoi too [21:24] OK thank you very much. [21:25] Wow it seems I am not alone. [21:26] guys is possible to minimize an application in a second panel (I have one in the top of the screen) [21:26] ? [21:32]