| bkerensa | jono: When are you going to visit imbrandon and go on a vacation in KC? | 06:18 |
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| bkerensa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City-style_barbecue | 06:18 |
| bkerensa | :D | 06:18 |
| jono | bkerensa, I would love to check out some KC BBQ | 06:21 |
| jono | my 22" Weber arrives tomorrow :-) | 06:21 |
| jono | very excited! | 06:21 |
| imbrandon | i got something better than kc bbq tho .... https://fiber.google.com/about/ | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | :) | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | btw wth yall doing up this late :) lol | 06:22 |
| philballew | Its only 11 on the west here :) | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | i always forget that | 06:23 |
| philballew | that is late, if I slept decent hours. | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | better than the 130 here | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | that said , i think i'm off to sleep, gnight all | 06:25 |
| jono | imbrandon, not sure if it is better | 06:25 |
| jono | BBQ is pretty awesome :-) | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | hahah :) | 06:26 |
| philballew | Few things beat a late night BBQ. | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | get some kc masterpiece for your next grillout | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | its probably the most authentic and made here | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | and rocks | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | gotta like kc style tho, not texas style, semi-sweet browsugar bbq :) | 06:27 |
| imbrandon | http://www.kcmasterpiece.com/bbq_hbrwnsugar/ | 06:29 |
| bkerensa | Im not much of a fan of BBQ | 06:39 |
| bkerensa | Its good... but nothing beats Sushi or maybe some Popeyes | 06:40 |
| bkerensa | :) | 06:40 |
| bkerensa | But if I were in KC and had to eat BBQ then Arthur Bryants is where I would eat | 06:40 |
| philballew | bkerensa, do you go to kc often or just enjoy using Yelp? :) | 06:41 |
| * philballew runs and hides | 06:42 | |
| bkerensa | philballew: I have been there twice | 06:42 |
| philballew | nice, its on my cities to go to! | 06:42 |
| bkerensa | just a quick trip through each time but I hear Bryants is the best | 06:43 |
| bkerensa | Iowa is a good state | 06:43 |
| bkerensa | :D | 06:43 |
| bkerensa | KC imho pretty industrial | 06:43 |
| * JoseeAntonioR insists you should come here and eat what bkerensa loves | 06:43 | |
| bkerensa | Ceviche? | 06:46 |
| philballew | I just wanna go as I have friends there and my a sister college is just outside in Olathe. | 06:46 |
| JoseeAntonioR | bkerensa: yeah, Ceviche de Camaron, but not with tostada ;) | 06:46 |
| philballew | *my sister | 06:47 |
| bkerensa | JoseeAntonioR: Or perhaps some Pollo con Papas? | 06:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | bkerensa: Pollo a la Brasa con Papas ;) that's even better | 06:49 |
| bkerensa | In Mason City, Iowa they have this place called Taco Johns | 06:50 |
| bkerensa | I think it might be a midwestern chain kind of like Taco Bell | 06:50 |
| bkerensa | I know Carls Jr is called Hardees in the Midwest | 06:51 |
| philballew | Taco johns is like Papa John's bkerensa ? | 06:56 |
| bkerensa | uhh not so much | 06:57 |
| bkerensa | they sells Tacos and Churos | 06:57 |
| bkerensa | and Frosties | 06:57 |
| bkerensa | :D | 06:57 |
| philballew | well for sure, just wondered as many companies have smaller companies that all use different names to hid the fact its all large corporations running food in America. | 06:58 |
| philballew | *hide | 06:58 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:25 |
| elfy | morning dholbach | 07:25 |
| dholbach | hey elfy | 07:25 |
| s-fox | Anyone from the community council around? | 08:49 |
| dholbach | yes | 08:59 |
| JoseeAntonioR | s-fox: ^ | 08:59 |
| s-fox | hey dholbach :) | 09:06 |
| dholbach | hey :) | 09:06 |
| s-fox | dholbach, can you adjust a setting on launchpad for the forums council please? | 09:06 |
| s-fox | https://launchpad.net/~forum-council | 09:06 |
| dholbach | which one? | 09:06 |
| s-fox | we want to update our members, but none of us have permissions. haha | 09:06 |
| s-fox | we need to remove bodhi.zazen and overdrank | 09:07 |
| dholbach | so Bodhi stepped down? to me the mail seemed to indicate a 'vacation'? | 09:08 |
| s-fox | No, he stepped down. | 09:08 |
| s-fox | We also want to add 2 new members to the launchpad group. | 09:08 |
| dholbach | ok, just for completeness sake, could you please reply to the 'vacation' mail I replied to yesterday? | 09:09 |
| dholbach | just to make it a bit clearer what's going on | 09:09 |
| s-fox | mikebraniff and elfy need to be added | 09:09 |
| dholbach | I've been out of the loop for 2.5 weeks, so I might have missed something - but from my inbox I can't see what was decided in the matter | 09:09 |
| s-fox | sure, I will reply to the email. | 09:09 |
| dholbach | I'm not trying to be difficult, but it'd be good to know if there was some kind of election or how the restaffing took place | 09:10 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot | 09:10 |
| s-fox | dholbach, I have emailed the community council. can you now update the list pleae? | 09:16 |
| s-fox | please ? | 09:16 |
| dholbach | s-fox, can I get back to you on this? right now I'm not 100% sure how we did restaffings on the forums council in the past | 09:17 |
| s-fox | it is urgent dholbach , we have a number of issues to discuss on our mailing list :/ | 09:18 |
| dholbach | are you blocked by the LP membership in any sense? | 09:19 |
| s-fox | yes, the new members cannot participate in discussions on the mailiing list. our membership has people in all continents and everyone being on irc at the same time is not practical. | 09:21 |
| dholbach | is it a Launchpad mailing list you're using? | 09:21 |
| s-fox | Yes, we use the launchpad mailing list :) | 09:22 |
| dholbach | I'm getting confused - isn't there a forums council lists.u.c mailing list as well? | 09:22 |
| s-fox | Not to my knowledge. We only use ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com | 09:23 |
| s-fox | hmm, this is odd | 09:24 |
| dholbach | ah yes, that's the one I meant | 09:24 |
| s-fox | dholbach, i have resolved the issue myself but the launchpad group is still inaccurate / out of date. | 09:31 |
| dholbach | I'll follow up to the mail in a bit | 09:33 |
| s-fox | thanks :) | 09:33 |
| s-fox | oh, if you have a minute i replied to your email about the app competition just after you went on vacation. you mentioned my AUTHORS file was missing a date. I made the updates are resubmitted. I think both emails are still waiting for approval ;) | 09:34 |
| dholbach | s-fox, mentioned it in #ubuntu-arb | 09:37 |
| s-fox | thanks :) | 09:37 |
| dholbach | s-fox, I followed up on the CC mail, I'm generally +1, but as I don't know too much on the Forums situation, I asked for some more comments | 09:40 |
| dholbach | and now I have to dash quickly, my cousin just showed up here and I'll say hello to him :) | 09:40 |
| dholbach | see you in a bit | 09:40 |
| s-fox | see you | 10:00 |
| dholbach | s-fox, seems like the arb post was already moderated through | 13:11 |
| s-fox | Super :) | 13:11 |
| dholbach | hey balloons - how are you doing? | 14:29 |
| balloons | dholbach, just dandy | 14:30 |
| dholbach | balloons, do you think we should have any UDW session about jenkins and how we use it to make Ubuntu better? | 14:30 |
| balloons | a bit famished.. but that will be easily solved | 14:30 |
| balloons | dholbach, hmm.. udw might be a good place to unveil some of that stuff | 14:30 |
| balloons | I think whoopsie should be coverd there | 14:30 |
| dholbach | hey jcastro - should we have anything about juju at UDW? | 14:31 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable still has some open slots | 14:31 |
| jcastro | dholbach_: we could do something, but I will be moving | 14:36 |
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| jcastro | dholbach_: let me ask the guys if someone can snag a slot though | 14:36 |
| dholbach | jcastro, awesome | 14:36 |
| dholbach | let me know that we have 30m slots too, so it's not too much of a commitment if they just want to do half a slot | 14:36 |
| jcastro | I <3 30 min slots | 14:37 |
| jcastro | we have a call today? | 15:02 |
| jono | dpm, mhall119, jcastro, dholbach, balloons will be there in a min | 15:02 |
| dholbach | ok | 15:02 |
| jcastro | cool | 15:02 |
| balloons | lol | 15:03 |
| jono | do you guys have a hangout running? | 15:03 |
| jcastro | nope I was frantically just finishing something | 15:04 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:04 |
| jono | ok, let me set it up | 15:04 |
| jono | dpm, mhall119, jcastro, dholbach, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/c35f17b807a5e60666ddcb0b5fc81d4ac2979c28?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 15:05 |
| dpm | jono, joining in | 15:06 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 15:15 |
| bkerensa | JoseeAntonioR: it could be worse :P | 15:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | bkerensa: huh? | 15:16 |
| bkerensa | :P the mixup | 15:16 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: progress is good on the SUMO front... just hacking our branding in | 15:45 |
| balloons | did I lose you? | 15:57 |
| balloons | I think so | 15:57 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - it's weekend time for me - see you all later! | 16:07 |
| dpm | here the weekend is coming too, see you next week! | 16:08 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: how hard is it to change the branding? | 16:12 |
| mhall119 | are we going ot have to keep a fork of sumo, or can we just over-ride it on the install instance? | 16:12 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: Well SUMO uses caching? So it could be trouble making changes after its spawned up | 16:15 |
| bkerensa | but Ill try it when I get the new instance up | 16:15 |
| bkerensa | the old one is still up but when I finish with background etc | 16:15 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: I mean can we keep the upstream code unmodified, and just add our theme on top, so we can easily pull in upstream changes? | 16:17 |
| mhall119 | or is it going to be more of an actual fork | 16:17 |
| bkerensa | well yeah | 16:17 |
| bkerensa | were just talking some minor changes in css and the media folder | 16:17 |
| bkerensa | code will not need to be forked unless we need to enhance it | 16:17 |
| mhall119 | that wasn't really a yes or no question :/ | 16:17 |
| mhall119 | ok, cool | 16:17 |
| mhall119 | and if we need to enhance it, we should be able to get the enhancements accepted upstream | 16:18 |
| mhall119 | as long as we make it generic enough to support both | 16:18 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 16:21 |
| bkerensa | will ping you this weekend sometime or Monday | 16:22 |
| * bkerensa is re-targeting a bunch of fixes for quantal atm | 16:22 | |
| bkerensa | >.< | 16:22 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: you're running this on precise? | 16:23 |
| bkerensa | ? | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | yes its on a hp cloud instance | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | :P | 16:24 |
| mhall119 | your sumo instance, is it on precise or quantal? | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | fixes for quantal is for other packages | 16:24 |
| mhall119 | would you mind doing a quick write-up of what you had to do to get it running (just things that are different from the officials docs), so I can try it myself when I have some time? | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | im also going to make a charm | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | ok now bzr is making me angry | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | :S | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | a charm would be fantastic, let me know if I can help with that | 16:27 |
| * mhall119 has a tiny bit of charming experience with django | 16:27 | |
| bkerensa | mhall119: bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. See "bzr help diverged-branches" for more information. | 16:27 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 16:27 |
| bkerensa | any idea? | 16:27 |
| mhall119 | run "bzr missing" | 16:28 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: shows my change long entry as an extra revision missing but I did "bzr add ." and commit | 16:29 |
| JoseeAntonioR | isn't it "bzr merge"? | 16:29 |
| bkerensa | no | 16:29 |
| bkerensa | merge pulls changes from main | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: so you committed locally | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | yes | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | and you're now trying to pull or push? | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | push | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | then your push location has a revision you don't have locally | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | made changes... bzr add . then bzr commit -m "blah" and bzr push | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | >.< | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | bzr missing only shows your one local revision? | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | yes | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | and Im pushing a new branch | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 16:31 |
| mhall119 | to where? | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | lp:~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/landscape-client/fix-for=******* | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | fix-for-*** even | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 16:31 |
| jono | mhall119, I presume you are going to be working on updating the spec today | 16:31 |
| jono | I want to see the core body of the spec expanded to include the conclusions we raised over the last week | 16:32 |
| mhall119 | jono: yes, I had a long talk with steve yesterday about inter-dependency issues in Extras | 16:32 |
| mhall119 | I've already added sections and work items about the archive process changes | 16:32 |
| jono | mhall119, to be clear, I don | 16:32 |
| jono | mhall119, to be clear, I don't want to just see additions to the implementation section, I want to see an overview of how it works in the body of the spec | 16:33 |
| jono | this needs to be more than just a list of work items | 16:33 |
| jono | but you see how the Proposed Solution section explains how it works, I want to see that kind of descriptive content | 16:33 |
| mhall119 | what body? | 16:34 |
| jono | mhall119, lets hop on a quick G+ | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | ok | 16:34 |
| jono | mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b015ee4825580e2fe0c863ef39187a6b9205fd56?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | brb, lunch | 17:03 |
| jono | any precise users? | 19:14 |
| jono | if so: | 19:14 |
| jono | can you run 'bzr branch lp:~jonobacon/+junk/gtkissue' and then 'cd gtkissue' and run 'quickly run', now resize the window so it looks like http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7270/7754450438_156304508d_b.jpg (four items wide and a deep window) - is there the same spacing issue on your system? | 19:14 |
| jono | mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2ca96645ea89746ebccc95d78e1fd334d1e8d858?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 19:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | Sorry jono, I've moved to Fedora..>_< (look of shame?) | 20:14 |
| balloons | MrChrisDruif, lol? | 20:15 |
| balloons | like the dog in the background of the image he attached :-) | 20:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | balloons; just a bit? I've seriously moved to Fedora because it comes with GNOME Shell in a format that is enjoyable. Unity doesn't appeal me much... | 20:16 |
| balloons | ahh. Is Fedora keeping gnome-shell for next cycle btw? | 20:17 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: is Fedora's Gnome-Shell experience significantly different from our Gnome-Shell experience? | 20:20 |
| mhall119 | other than it being the default I mean | 20:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, when running the dev version 12.10 it tried to remove gnome-shell constantly. And they didn't break any keyboard shortcuts =) | 20:20 |
| mhall119 | I thought we had fixed the problems we had back in the 11.04 days | 20:20 |
| mhall119 | ah well, development pre-beta, you can't complain too much about that | 20:21 |
| mhall119 | heck, when I was testing the 12.04 alphas, they tried to remove Unity contantly ;) | 20:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | So...they improved on that did they? ;-) | 20:22 |
| mhall119 | I dunno, I haven't upgraded to 12.10 yet | 20:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | And there was something...can't remember exactly thou | 20:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | Oh, I also couldn't install lilypond ^_^ | 20:23 |
| mhall119 | what's lilypond? | 20:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | Just some minor dependency problem | 20:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | It's a music annotation bit of software | 20:24 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: is that also in the development release? | 20:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Last time I checked yeah | 20:24 |
| mhall119 | I mean are you problems in the development release | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | dependency issues aren't uncommon in dev releases | 20:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | Mainly, haven't checked how things are in 12.04 | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | but shouldn't exist in the stable release | 20:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | Lilypond was installable in 12.04 for as much as I can remember. | 20:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | But like I said, Unity doesn't do it for me. I prefer gnome-shell and I seem to be the only one in the ubuntu sphere ^_^ it's just easier for me to use Fedora then to use the mini or server iso to only install gnome-shell | 20:28 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: I hope you at least filed bugs for these problems before you switched, so we can make it better | 20:28 |
| mhall119 | lots of Ubuntu folks use Gnome Shell | 20:28 |
| mhall119 | which is why I was asking if our version was all that different from Fedora's | 20:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | I can't remember if I filed a bug for lilypond in 12.10 | 20:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | I do remember filing an other bug, but it got squashed | 20:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | I just remembered why lilypond wouldn't install (sometimes I love my memory); it couldn't install because it depended on lilypond-data of a specific version, but lilypond-data was already bumped up to the next version | 20:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | But checking the lilypond and lilypond packages.ubuntu.com pages I think it should be installable again | 20:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | -data* | 20:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | mhall119; ^ | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: ah, ok | 20:36 |
| * mhall119 now remembers looking into lilypond years ago | 20:36 | |
| MrChrisDruif | =) | 20:37 |
| balloons | yes, probably an archive timing issue with the dev verson | 20:39 |
| balloons | but I'll echo mhall119 on what's different? ;-) | 20:39 |
| balloons | I'm just curious :-) | 20:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | balloons; ? | 20:41 |
| balloons | ohh.. what's different n gnome-shell on ubuntu over fedora | 20:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | Keyboard shortcuts are broken. Not all but a few | 20:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | Oh and in 12.10 is the "new and improved" nautilus...which removed one of my favorite functions split pane view | 20:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | I hope either nemo or marlin will prove to be a suitable replacement when the time cometh | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: Fedora's likely to get the new Nautilus too | 20:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | That's why I said my previous sentence mhall119 ^_^ | 20:52 |
| mhall119 | I wonder if the keyboard shortcut problem is both compiz/unity and gnomeshell/mutter using the same settings keys | 20:53 |
| cjohnston | thats a pretty big list of sites that are going down | 20:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | cj? | 20:54 |
| cjohnston | MCD? | 20:54 |
| cjohnston | I assume you didn't get the email? | 20:54 |
| mhall119 | what sites are you talking about? | 20:54 |
| cjohnston | you didnt get it either? | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | oh, that email, yeah | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | I got it | 20:55 |
| cjohnston | those sites | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | if they lose all the wiki work I've been doing all week, I'm going to swim across the atlantic to bust some heads | 20:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | From jcastro you mean? | 20:55 |
| balloons | hehe | 20:56 |
| cjohnston | I got it from Chris Jones, but yes | 20:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | He forwarded it to ubuntu-news mailing-list | 20:56 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: Canonical is moving data centers, so there's going to be downtime for a bunch of websites while they move them | 20:56 |
| cjohnston | ya.. i got it there too | 20:56 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: summit is missing from the list though | 20:57 |
| cjohnston | no it isn't ;-) | 20:57 |
| cjohnston | owell, I Can hope it isnt | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | hope all you want | 20:57 |
| cjohnston | heh | 20:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | Why during the weekend? Isn't that the time most volunteers have time to work on this kind of stuff? ;-) | 20:58 |
| cjohnston | because the employees that will be working on it wont be working their normal hours and normal jobs | 20:58 |
| mhall119 | probably lower traffic during the weekend | 20:59 |
| mhall119 | I'm sure IS didn't volunteer to work over the weekend for no reason | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | =) | 21:00 |
| jcastro | traffic for everything dips a ton during the weekend | 21:01 |
| jcastro | looks like launcpad isn't affected though | 21:07 |
| jcastro | nor the archive | 21:07 |
| pleia2 | fridge isn't on that list, so I'm x-posting over there (thanks jcastro for forwarding it :)) | 21:11 |
| jcastro | O_O | 21:11 |
| jcastro | I thought it was? | 21:11 |
| jcastro | I thought ubuntu-news encompassed all the resources including fridge | 21:11 |
| bkerensa | I wonder when they are going to do the mailing list upgrades :D | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | jcastro: sorry, I meant it wasn't on the list of sites which will be down | 21:12 |
| jcastro | oh | 21:12 |
| jcastro | whew! | 21:12 |
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| cjohnston | mhall119: fragaria may not have to move! | 21:48 |
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