[02:02] <micahg> ScottK: I need some backports advice, bug 1025027 is a backport to fix bugs, but doesn't look worth for an SRU on its own, there are also other bugs fixed, paperwork is in order, I'm leaning towards accepting with a note that the 2 major bugs should be SRUd still if possible, WDYT
[02:02] <micahg> s/worth/worthy/
[04:26] <ScottK> micahg: Usually we insist on doing the SRU first, but it's a judgment call.  Basically the  SRU won't happen if the backport's been done already, but if the SRu isn't going to happen anyway, it's not something to block the backport on.  In that context, I'd say use your best judgment.
[04:34] <micahg> Zhenech: ^^ it's your backport, are you interested in doing the stable release update for the crash bug before we do the backport of everything?  (the catch is that people have to select the backport whereas the stable release update will go to almost everyone (unless they uncheck the updates box)
[04:54] <micahg> dupondje: I see you on the agenda for Monday, but I haven't seen an e-mail to devel-permissions yet
[05:25] <Zhenech> micahg, uhm, never did an SRU before, but now that you mention it, yes it would be a valid candidate, yeah
[05:25] <Zhenech> micahg, what's the process in ubuntu, get a as small as possible diff and get it acked by someone as in debian?
[05:26] <micahg> zhenech: if you're MOTU, just upload to $RELEASE-proposed and subscribe ubuntu-sru once you fill out the paperwork, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[05:26] <Zhenech> micahg, i'm just a stupid DD :)
[05:27] <micahg> zhenech: so ubuntu-sponsors then
[05:27] <micahg> but yeah, minimal diff
[05:27] <micahg> you can bundle the bugs together in on debdiff as well if you want to fix multiple ones
[05:27] <micahg> *one
[05:28] <Zhenech> oki
[05:28] <Zhenech> will do later today
[05:28] <Zhenech> thanks!
[05:28] <micahg> zhenech: thanks, the backport looks good for afterwards
[05:28] <Zhenech> gotta go now, trains :)
[05:30]  * micahg needs sleep
[06:44] <Zhenech> micahg, you said two major bugs - LAN crash and the icon issue? the latter would be a binary diff, but thanmkts to 3.0(quilt) it works fine here :)
[07:30] <dholbach> good morning
[07:47] <Zhenech> ScottK, can you nominate the two pokerth bugs for precise?
[07:48] <Laney> Zhenech: any motu can — which are they?
[07:49] <Zhenech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pokerth/+bug/1023582
[07:49] <Zhenech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pokerth/+bug/947159
[07:50] <Laney> there you go
[07:51] <Zhenech> thanks!
[07:51] <Laney> is it right for the second one to affect unity?
[07:52] <Zhenech> i guess not, no
[07:52] <Zhenech> unity picked the right icon, it was just too small
[07:54] <Zhenech> mh, do I subscribe -sru or -sponsors now?
[07:56] <Laney> sponsors
[07:56] <Laney> you don't really need to subscribe sru team these days
[07:56] <dupondje> micahg: argh, forgot that :) let me fix that first!
[07:57] <dupondje> thanks for the notice!
[07:58] <Zhenech> Laney, thanks! done :)
[07:58] <Laney> sweet
[08:01] <Zhenech> I bet I did the versioning of the package wrong, but thats easily changed :)
[08:03] <Laney> ubuntu0.1 would have been more conventional, but it doesn't really matter
[08:03] <dupondje> micahg: mail sent!
[08:03] <Laney> as long as the upgrade path is right
[09:50] <Laney> Zhenech: ah, s/precise/precise-proposed/
[09:50] <Zhenech> ew, yeah
[09:51] <Laney> otherwise, uploading
[09:51] <Zhenech> should I update the package?
[09:51] <Zhenech> ah okay!
[09:51] <Laney> nah
[09:51] <Laney> things like that are easier to JFDI
[09:51] <Laney> up
[09:53] <Zhenech> ty!
[11:46] <dholbach> micahg, I added something about the sqlite move to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative - if you can make some changes you feel are necessary, that'd be great
[13:12] <arand> Is there an equivalent to -us -uc you can pass to bzr-bd?
[13:12] <Zhenech> -us -uc
[13:12] <Zhenech> I call usually
[13:12] <Zhenech> bzr bd -- -us -uc -S
[13:13] <Zhenech> hint: the double hyphen is important
[13:13] <arand> Yeah, I was looking at the help, and I din't see that documented anywhere :(
[13:13] <arand> thanks :)
[13:14] <Zhenech>  You can specify extra options to build with
[13:14] <Zhenech>   by adding them to the end of the command, after using "--" to indicate the
[13:14] <dholbach> arand, everything passed to bzr bd after the "--" will be passed to debuild
[13:14] <Zhenech>   end of the options to builddeb itself.
[13:14] <dholbach> sorry :)
[13:14] <Zhenech> *pointi finger*
[13:15] <Zhenech> pointy even
[13:16] <arand> Oh, it's hidden there in the middle, at the page break and all :/
[15:18] <nhandler> I'm trying to figure out the reason Ubuntu needed to add a Build-Depends on libssl-dev in quantal for libnet-ssh2-perl (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnet-ssh2-perl/0.44-1ubuntu1) in order to not FTBFS. The package builds fine as-is in sid. I'm willing to bet this is due to some "obvious" change we made to our build-process, but I really do not do much with libraries like this
[15:19] <Laney> is it pulled in indirectly by something else in sid?
[15:19] <Laney> check the build log to see if it gets installed
[15:25] <nhandler> Laney: https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=libnet-ssh2-perl&arch=i386&ver=0.45-1&stamp=1344579261 does mention that -lssl and -lcrypto were not found, but these are described as being 'probably harmless'. In Ubuntu, they are not found either (without libssl-dev) but this is not harmless
[15:29] <bkerensa> mm
[15:30] <nhandler> Someone thought it might be due to us using --as-needed, but he wasn't sure
[15:33] <nhandler> /39/39
[16:17] <Bachstelze> In Ubuntu,  they are not found either (without libssl-dev) but this is not harmless
[16:17] <Bachstelze> but in ubuntu perl does not find that they on't exist, so it tries to link with them anyway
[16:18] <Bachstelze> so basically for some reason perl thinks they are on the system when they are not
[16:56] <c_korn> please help, lintian brings the warning "W: bsnes source: debian-rules-ignores-make-clean-error line 12" in this debian/rules file http://pastebin.com/gjZmQjw5
[17:07] <Lasall> c_korn: is there already a patch system? and if necessary you can override warnings
[17:08] <c_korn> Lasall: source/format is 3.0 (quilt) if you mean this
[17:09] <Lasall> I don't know if it is overskill but you can create a patch and add a "-" before rm command in origin make file
[17:10] <Lasall> quilt new 01_clean.patch
[17:10] <Lasall> quilt edit Makefiletopatch
[17:10] <Lasall> quilt refresh
[17:11] <c_korn> so the error is in the makefile itself? not debian/rules?
[17:11] <Lasall> yes
[17:14] <c_korn> ah, so the - on line 37 is the real problem? http://pastebin.com/w1b9XEX7
[17:15] <Lasall> - means, it won't exist if command fails
[17:15] <Lasall> *exit
[17:18] <c_korn> even after this patch the warning remains :/ http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hsekEBeZ
[17:21] <c_korn> ah, there is one more clean target in another makefile. although it is not the one which is called on line 12 in debian/rules
[17:21] <micahg> zhenech: I don't mind the icon issue so much as it's minor, if you'd like to fix that in an SRU, that's fine though
[17:24] <Lasall> c_korn: and don't remove the - characters in clean targets. they will prevent errors if files don't exist
[17:31] <dobey> hi motus; would a couple of you mind taking a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1035392 please? thanks
[17:34] <Lasall> dobey: use format line: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/ in copyright
[17:36] <dobey> gah, url changed again
[17:36]  * dobey wishes that would stop
[17:36] <Lasall> :-D
[17:38] <dobey> well, fixed it
[17:41] <nhandler> dobey: The URL should be relatively stable now
[17:53]  * shadeslayer does some ftbfs hunting
[18:16] <Zhenech> micahg, already done, yeah :)
[20:48] <micahg> Laney: can you merge my tracker update please? https://code.launchpad.net/~micahg/%2Bjunk/transition-tracker/
[20:52] <Laney> sure
[20:53] <Laney> done
[20:54] <micahg> thanks, let's hope that fixes it
[20:54] <Laney> i can add you to the team so you can update it yourself if you want
[20:55] <micahg> Laney: sure, that would be great, can you also tell me how to do a test output?
[20:55] <Laney> you might like to use the 'ben' package
[20:55] <Laney> it's slightly different but should be mostly compatible
[20:56]  * micahg looked at the man page and got cross-eyed
[20:56] <Laney> then lp:~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs will be the new configs branch
[20:57] <Laney> something like ben download -g configs/global.conf -c configs/download/archive.ben and then the same with archive_ports.ben
[20:57] <Laney> then ben monitor -c configs/global.conf -c configs/monitor/ongoing/sqlite.ben
[20:57] <Laney> off the top of my head
[21:01] <micahg> Laney: thanks, do you know if negative lookaheads will work in the tracker?
[21:02] <Laney> it uses a proper pcre module so there's a good chance
[21:03] <micahg> well, I guess I'll see in about a half hour...
[21:04] <micahg> ooh, it did work :)
[21:04] <Laney> nice
[21:04] <Laney> 30, not so bad
[21:05] <micahg> right