[14:34] <darknite_> assalamualaikumsalam wbt
[14:44] <fairuz> darknite_: wsalam
[14:44] <darknite_> fairuz..
[14:44] <darknite_> ape cerita sekarang?
[14:44] <fairuz> excalibr: pasal editor semlm tu, komodo mmg nampak byk feature, mahal pun mahal
[14:44] <fairuz> nampak berbaloi la kalau nak beli
[14:45] <fairuz> darknite_: Macam biasa, menghabiskan kerja yang tak abis
[14:45] <darknite_> aku dah lama x join sini sbb terlampau sibuk dengan keje
[14:47] <fairuz> keke besa la tu, kalau dah sibuk
[14:50] <darknite_> fairuz beraya di mana?
[14:50] <fairuz> subang jaya dengan kota bharu
[14:56] <darknite_> hmm..aku raya kat KL saje
[15:02] <fairuz> xde cuti ka
[15:02] <darknite_> x..ari raya kene keje
[15:04] <fairuz> oo
[15:06] <darknite_> nie tengah cuba ambik exam
[15:35] <excalibr> fairuz: dah beli tiket? :P
[15:35] <fairuz> excalibr: oh mesti la dah
[15:35] <fairuz> mati keras aku kalau tak beli lagi time ni hehe
[15:35] <fairuz> mau mahal gila
[15:35] <excalibr> lol
[15:35] <fairuz> darknite_: exam ape
[15:36] <darknite_> ecsa/lpt
[15:36] <fairuz> untuk ape tu
[15:37] <darknite_> dia macam licensed penetration testing
[15:37] <fairuz> tak faham jugak keke
[15:38] <darknite_> aduhs
[15:38] <darknite_> kalau lepas..boleh jadi security conslutant
[15:39] <excalibr> s/penetration/hacking
[15:39] <fairuz> oo
[15:39] <fairuz> aku tgh buat security jugak keja aku sekarang ni keke
[15:39] <fairuz> tapi bukan network security
[15:44] <excalibr> nak hire org buat pen test mahal woo
[15:44] <excalibr> kan darknite_?
[15:44] <darknite_> xpe la..security jgk kan fairuz
[15:45] <darknite_> excalibr...aah..mahal tuh..
[15:47] <fairuz> darknite_: Baru start je aku security ni, tak faham aku adey
[15:47] <darknite_> adey?
[15:47] <fairuz> *adeh
[15:51] <excalibr> darknite_: nak tanya. biasanya org yg deface sites tu dia exploit apa
[15:51] <darknite_> kurang paham soalan
[15:51] <darknite_> excalibr macam nk uji aku saje
[15:52] <excalibr> lol tak la..serius nak tau
[15:52] <excalibr> camna diorang boleh deface sites
[15:55] <darknite_> tu bergantung la exaclibr
[15:55] <darknite_> ada yg pakai exploit yg orang buat..ada yg buat sendiri exploit
[15:57] <excalibr> apa yg diorang exploit tu biasanya..webserver?
[15:58] <darknite_> yeap
[15:58] <darknite_> saya nie bdk hingusan lagik
[16:02] <excalibr> takpa la..share setakat yg ko tau haha..sbab aku honestly tak tau apa-apa psl benda ni
[16:03] <penreturns> \o/
[16:03] <excalibr> helo penreturns 
[16:03] <fairuz> yo penreturns
[16:03] <penreturns> hellooo
[16:04] <darknite_> penreturns lebih banyak taw daripada aku
[16:04] <excalibr> dah sedia ke penreturns
[16:04] <penreturns> haaa
[16:04] <penreturns> tau ape
[16:04] <penreturns> goreng cekodok?
[16:04] <darknite_> taw pasal security pentest
[16:04] <penreturns> xpas lg... cekodok jd cookies keras semacam :D
[16:05] <penreturns> sy punye server pon xde sape nk pentest
[16:05] <penreturns> takut nk offer wahahahha
[16:05] <darknite_> yeke?
[16:05] <fairuz> letak coklat sikit, boleh la makan cookies tu keke
[16:05] <penreturns> hehhehe yeah
[16:06] <penreturns> now begantung pd nessus report je
[16:06] <excalibr> pasni boleh panggil cekokies
[16:06] <penreturns> wah
[16:06] <penreturns> cekokies!
[16:06] <penreturns> market tu name die!
[16:06] <darknite_> lagik banyak aku belajar pasal pentest..lagik banyak kene taw
[16:07] <penreturns> ermmm 
[16:07] <penreturns> aja sket
[16:07] <penreturns> bole?
[16:07] <excalibr> darknite_: org kata the moar you know the more you dont know lol
[16:07] <darknite_> yeap
[16:08] <fairuz> excalibr: +1
[16:08] <penreturns> aja sket bole?
[16:08] <penreturns> siyes
[16:08] <darknite_> nk ajar ape nya penreturns sbb aku hanye ada experience 2 kali saje
[16:08] <penreturns> sy takot gak
[16:08] <darknite_> takut ape nya
[16:08] <penreturns> server kat vm
[16:08] <penreturns> pakai bridge
[16:08] <penreturns> if pape jd ble ke die masok main distro sy?
[16:10] <excalibr> that is a question
[16:11] <excalibr> will it blend..
[16:11] <fairuz> kalau VM bukan dah kira mcm sandbox? OS dalam VM tu tak tau pun dia dalam VM kan?
[16:11] <penreturns> yup
[16:11] <penreturns> begitula sepatutnye
[16:11] <penreturns> tp still ragu2
[16:11] <penreturns> hehhe
[16:11] <penreturns> biase la
[16:11] <penreturns> personal stuff belambak
[16:11] <penreturns> :D
[16:12] <darknite_> kalau ragu2..jgn buat
[16:12] <darknite_> buat la backup
[16:12] <penreturns> tah ler
[16:12] <penreturns> sy dlm local test masok xlepas
[16:12] <penreturns> xtau ler kalo ade cr len
[16:12] <penreturns> :D
[16:12] <darknite_> server ko tuh windows erk
[16:13] <penreturns> ubuntu
[16:13] <penreturns> ubuntu server dlm vm ubuntu
[16:13] <penreturns> :D
[16:13] <darknite_> aduhs
[16:13] <darknite_> agak susah
[16:14] <penreturns> unifi - cloudflare
[16:14] <penreturns> unifi down
[16:14] <penreturns> forum down wakakkaka
[16:14] <darknite_> aku ok saje
[16:14] <excalibr> dia nak masuk tu kena ada servis yg dia boleh exploit dulu klu tak silap
[16:14] <darknite_> laju saje pakai cloudflare
[16:14] <fairuz> Aku ada debian kat Rpi aku kalau korang nak try hack keke
[16:14] <penreturns> yep... kalo mybb skang ni xde expliot lg..
[16:14] <darknite_> kalau server windows...dia exploit kat port RPC
[16:15] <penreturns> erm ade la sql ... tp atas plugin... da prevent pakai google seo
[16:15] <penreturns> so setel masalah tu
[16:15] <darknite_> tapi kene ingat...there's no system is secure
[16:15] <penreturns> yeahhh
[16:16] <penreturns> pasti ada
[16:16] <penreturns> cume xtau kat mana salah silapnye
[16:16] <darknite_> hacker hanye perlu cari satu vuln saje
[16:16] <excalibr> penreturns: sebut psl mybb..camna dgn plan ko nak tlg manage forum ubuntu-my hari tu? tak dpat restu bos besar ke?
[16:16] <darknite_> kalau diorang dapat satu vuln...diaorang akan exploit
[16:16] <penreturns> ble masok server trough ssh n TV je
[16:16] <penreturns> :D
[16:17] <penreturns> xde sape yg bersuara... sy diam je... hehhehhe ala jg forum x susah... nk maintain user tu yg masak
[16:18] <penreturns> tp selagi content munasabah insyaallah ade org jenguk
[16:18] <darknite_> hmm
[16:18] <darknite_> sifu penreturns
[16:18] <penreturns> hah
[16:18] <penreturns> sifu plak
[16:18] <penreturns> lol
[16:18] <darknite_> aku xtaw pasal jaga website
[16:18] <penreturns> sy pon xtau
[16:19] <penreturns> baru je cube2
[16:19] <penreturns> tu pon pasal sewa vps mahal... tu run server sendiri
[16:19] <excalibr> keke
[16:19] <darknite_> wow
[16:19] <darknite_> terbaik
[16:19] <darknite_> blh aku remote
[16:19] <darknite_> haha
[16:20] <penreturns> hehhehhe
[16:20] <penreturns> ni pon tah ape lg x kene
[16:20] <penreturns> cam x stabil
[16:20] <penreturns> plus email x setel2 lg
[16:20] <penreturns> peningg peningg
[16:22] <excalibr> vps klu nak murah cari yg low end box deals
[16:22] <penreturns> ade tgk aritu
[16:22] <penreturns> stakat ni da 3 provider test
[16:22] <excalibr> klu mahal tu biasanya sbb ada managed service
[16:22] <penreturns> tp x larat la nk bayo
[16:23] <penreturns> baek simpan duit
[16:23] <penreturns> kawen
[16:23] <penreturns> :D
[16:23] <fairuz> keke
[16:23] <fairuz> btul tu
[16:23] <fairuz> kawin dulu
[16:23] <excalibr> lari dah darknite..ni salah penreturns la ni
[16:23] <penreturns> wahahhahhaa
[16:24] <excalibr> x larat bayar? kencing la
[16:24] <excalibr> haha..
[16:24] <penreturns> yg murah tu mmg murah
[16:24] <penreturns> masalahnye time order tuh amik yg mahal2 je
[16:24] <penreturns> hahahha
[16:24] <fairuz> haha
[16:24] <penreturns> 280 x silap per month
[16:24] <penreturns> :D
[16:25] <excalibr> aku agak2 adsense ko plg kurang $1k usd
[16:25] <penreturns> da kene ban
[16:25] <penreturns> 2 kali
[16:25] <penreturns> :D
[16:25] <fairuz> aku dah dekat 10 kali kena ban =.=
[16:25] <penreturns> wahahahha
[16:25] <fairuz> time 5-6 taun dulu seronok la
[16:25] <fairuz> sekarang dah susah
[16:25] <penreturns> blog penreturns tu pon die kate content x sesuai
[16:25] <fairuz> aku dah stop dah pun
[16:25] <penreturns> 4 kali apply
[16:25] <penreturns> last2 malas da
[16:26] <excalibr> asal lak..
[16:26] <penreturns> tu tanye die
[16:26] <penreturns> ape content yg x sesuai
[16:26] <excalibr> ada contents against diorg punya tos ke
[16:26] <penreturns> xde plak die bg tau
[16:26] <penreturns> -..-
[16:26] <penreturns> mne de... sume pasal ubuntu je kot
[16:26] <penreturns> :D
[16:26] <excalibr> pr0n, warez
[16:26] <penreturns> mne dee
[16:26] <penreturns> lol
[16:26] <fairuz> keke
[16:27] <excalibr> penreturns: erk jap..280 sebulan?
[16:27] <penreturns> nh try usya2 ubuntu server :p http://forum.rc.my
[16:27] <excalibr> cam bukan low end box je
[16:27] <penreturns> sy x amik sane
[16:28] <penreturns> lepas da wat sendiri baru tau ade
[16:28] <penreturns> :D
[16:28] <excalibr> http://lowendbox.com
[16:28] <penreturns> yepp
[16:29] <excalibr> oo penreturns, camna ko tarik diorang ni
[16:29] <excalibr> ramai org masuk forum tu
[16:29] <penreturns> ade org2 yg tolong
[16:29] <penreturns> pomot group to group
[16:30] <penreturns> saufiwahab pon ade :p
[16:31] <excalibr> sapa tu
[16:31] <penreturns> ramai kejadah... nk cecah 100 pon susah
[16:31] <penreturns> hahahaha
[16:31] <penreturns> saufiwahab... kat loco group ade
[16:31] <excalibr> pastu camna ko monetize site ni
[16:31] <excalibr> tadi kata adsense kena ban
[16:31] <penreturns> site ni zero
[16:32] <penreturns> xde pape faedah pon lg
[16:32] <penreturns> :D
[16:32] <excalibr> lol
[16:32] <penreturns> ahaahhaa
[16:33] <excalibr> dlm sbulan berapa kali down
[16:34] <excalibr> aku rasa tadi ko ckp host atas unifi..ke aku miread lol
[16:34] <excalibr> *misread
[16:34] <penreturns> yep
[16:34] <penreturns> unifi
[16:34] <penreturns> bulan ni da 2 kali
[16:34] <penreturns> 1st modem kong
[16:35] <penreturns> 2nd network ape tah die ckp 500 n 600 missing
[16:37] <excalibr> not bad
[16:38] <penreturns> ahahhaa
[16:38] <penreturns> sebaek service cun... kol je dtg
[16:43] <excalibr> :D
[16:46] <excalibr> fairuz: berapa jam lagi nak bebuka?
[16:46] <fairuz> excalibr: lagi 2
[16:46] <fairuz> tapi aku kat opis lg ni
[16:46] <fairuz> adeh
[16:46] <excalibr> aik hujung minggu pun keja ka
[16:47] <fairuz> tgh abiskan test benda
[16:47] <fairuz> alang2 siapkan report terus
[16:48] <fairuz> bosan aku buat test ni keke prefer coding something lagi
[16:49] <fairuz> balik rumah main starcraft sedap ni
[16:50] <excalibr> pergh main games jugakkk
[16:51] <excalibr> ingatkan aku sorg je kat sini lol
[16:51] <fairuz> hehe mesti
[16:51] <excalibr> penreturns: aku baru teringat adsense tak accept contents dlm bm
[16:51] <penreturns> blog sy english looo
[16:52] <penreturns> http://penreturns.rc.my
[16:52] <excalibr> ye tapi bila ko apply adsense, dia tengok site kat main domain tu klu tak silap
[16:52] <fairuz> tak jugak seingat aku
[16:53] <penreturns> yeke... huhuhuuhu
[16:53] <penreturns> kene tuka penreturns.my la pasneh
[16:53] <penreturns> :D
[16:54] <excalibr> trafik forum tu agak2 berapa sbuln
[16:55] <excalibr> klu tak leh adsense ko boleh try nuffnang tapi diorang ni lagi picky
[16:55] <penreturns> nuffnang x lepas
[16:55] <penreturns> coz die ckp sy da pakai tok blog
[16:55] <penreturns> last2 maleh da
[16:55] <penreturns> :D
[16:57] <fairuz> excalibr: ko main game ape
[16:58] <penreturns> <-- c&c
[16:58] <excalibr> rpg mostly..tapi tak berapa into mmorpg
[16:58] <excalibr> fairuz ada steam?
[16:59] <excalibr> c&c generals? :)
[17:00] <penreturns> http://alliances.commandandconquer.com/?utm_source=www.commandandconquer.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cca_cc-com-promo-right
[17:01] <fairuz> excalibr: takde steam.. aku main starcraft 2 ngan diablo 3.. kadang2 main dota
[17:02] <fairuz> dulu gila c&c jugak (general)
[17:02] <excalibr> fairuz: create la steam, pasni boleh main dota 2
[17:02] <fairuz> excalibr: tak minat main dota keke
[17:04] <excalibr> ataupun main torchlight 2. feel dia sama cam diablo 3
[17:04] <fairuz> ada suggestion game real time strategy? Muak jugak hari2 tibai starcraft keke
[17:05] <fairuz> game mcm diablo kena byk masa
[17:05] <fairuz> strategy boleh tahan lg
[17:05] <excalibr> rts eh
[17:05] <fairuz> aah
[17:06] <excalibr> aku cuma boleh recommend games ats platform steam je sbb aku tak pernah ada akaun battle net
[17:06] <excalibr> lol
[17:08] <fairuz> xpernah lg register steam
[17:08] <fairuz> byk kan games dalam steam?
[17:08] <fairuz> aku baca hari tu tak mcm dekat 2500
[17:09] <excalibr> klu steam, c&c series.. warhammer 40k, company of heroes
[17:09] <excalibr> ^ among highly rated ones dlm genre rts
[17:11] <excalibr> banyak gak..dalam ~1500 camtu
[17:11] <fairuz> oo
[17:11] <fairuz> menarik gak
[17:11] <fairuz> mahal tak game2 dia, harga stended?
[17:11] <fairuz> game blizzard mahal =.=
[17:11] <excalibr> murah yg amat..bila ada sales
[17:12] <excalibr> diskaun cam tak ingat dunia
[17:12] <excalibr> lol
[17:12] <fairuz> oo
[17:13] <excalibr> selalunya ada 75% off bila ada sales
[17:13] <excalibr> cam summer sales hari tu
[17:14] <fairuz> amboi
[17:15] <excalibr> ye betul..games ~20 usd off sampai 5-6usd je
[17:15] <fairuz> kenapa aku tak tau benda ni wahaha
[17:15] <fairuz> siot
[17:15] <fairuz> dulu bagi aku steam ni, untuk CS je
[17:16] <fairuz> haha
[17:16] <fairuz> katak bawah tempurung
[17:16] <excalibr> ni daily deal
[17:16] <excalibr> http://store.steampowered.com/app/203750/?snr=1_4_4__43
[17:21] <excalibr> yup steam has grown really massive since zaman valve mula2 intro steam utk deliver hl2..skrg ni dia main digital distributor platform
[17:22] <excalibr> tapi dd platform lain pun not bad gak walaupun tak sebesar steam
[17:22] <excalibr> http://www.steamgamesales.com/
[17:23] <fairuz> aah aku pun baru baca hari tu, baru tau steam ni mmg byk game
[17:23] <fairuz> tak berminat pulak nak korek game2 dia ngan harga brapa
[17:23] <fairuz> tengah syok main diablo 3 hari tu, mane pandang game lain
[17:23] <excalibr> lol
[17:23] <fairuz> ni dah abis main, baru tgh cari game2 lain nak try
[17:23] <fairuz> kecewa aku ngan diablo 3
[17:24] <excalibr> member aku yg beli d3 ramai cakap nyesal sbb tak nak tunggu torchlight 2
[17:24] <fairuz> kejap sangat abis main
[17:24] <fairuz> normal aku main abis tak sampai dua hari.
[17:24] <excalibr> hah
[17:24] <fairuz> pastu duk ulang2 je la
[17:24] <fairuz> agak2 la nak buat pendek pun
[17:25] <fairuz> wb mypapit
[17:26] <excalibr> haha habis tu ko buat quests je la?
[17:27] <fairuz> quests pun ulang la
[17:27] <fairuz> kira abis semua quests dalam normal difficulty dalam 2 hari
[17:27] <fairuz> tak ke pendek tu?
[17:27] <fairuz> dah la aku keja, main malam je
[17:27] <excalibr> aha
[17:27] <fairuz> buat rugi duit je
[17:28] <excalibr> bukan ke max level dia ikut difficulty?
[17:28] <fairuz> aah, tapi aku dah difficulty last dah, dah max level selepas seminggu 
[17:28] <fairuz> keke
[17:29] <fairuz> seingat aku difficulty last je ada level requirement
[17:29] <fairuz> kean level 60 kalau nak masuk
[17:29] <fairuz> *kena
[17:31] <excalibr> :D
[17:32] <fairuz> tapi dah bosan dah sebab by the time ko masuk difficulty last tu, ko dah ulang game tu 3 kali... mmg main sebab nak cari barang je
[17:37] <fairuz> excalibr: aku balik dulu, kang tak sempat nak makan plak
[17:37] <excalibr> okok
[17:38] <excalibr> nice chat btw lol