[00:39] <binarymutant> does google chrome literally dump a 'core' in $HOME?
[00:40] <binarymutant> this is like the 10th time i've seen 'core' in my home, but idk what it's from
[00:51] <chris4585> uh, I don't think I've ever seen that before
[00:52] <chris4585> binarymutant, this may help? http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Core_Dump_Files_and_What_To_Do_About_Them.html
[00:59] <binarymutant> I know how to delete it :/
[01:00] <binarymutant> oops
[01:00] <binarymutant> killed the wrong window
[01:04] <wrst> binarymutant: you really need an always on client ;)
[01:05] <binarymutant> yeah but it's too costly
[01:05] <binarymutant> and my laptop is usually on
[01:05] <wrst> you need Aaron raspberry pi
[01:05] <alyawn> binarymutant, you can do `file ~/core` to find out what produced it
[01:05] <alyawn> IIIRC
[01:06] <wrst> dumb autocorrect
[01:06] <binarymutant> alyawn: really?
[01:06] <binarymutant> I thought file would just tell me it's a dump
[01:06] <alyawn> yes
[01:06] <binarymutant> I'll try that next time I see it
[01:07] <binarymutant> thanks
[01:07] <alyawn> np..
[01:08] <alyawn> then you can of course `gdb -c core /usr/bin/$BADEXE` to debug the program and find out why it's unhappy
[01:10] <binarymutant> I must be using my tools wrong
[01:11] <binarymutant> or maybe not
[01:12] <binarymutant> <- has only ever run `gdb app`
[01:13] <alyawn> if the binary has symbols, then you can run it with the core dump to find the offending code
[01:13] <alyawn> maybe it's your IRC client that's core dumping :)
[01:14] <binarymutant> I need cat5, dumb wifi
[01:15] <wrst> binarymutant: I have a little arch server running on wifi and it never disconnects what type of card do you have?
[01:16] <binarymutant> intel 3945, but my router is really far away
[01:17] <wrst> ahh
[01:17] <wrst> dd-wrt repeater!
[01:18] <binarymutant> I've got a dbus bridge beside me, but I think I need to move it closer to the router
[01:18] <binarymutant> err dlink not dbus heh
[01:19] <wrst> :)
[01:27] <altg3k3> hey guys
[01:29] <alyawn> hey
[01:29] <wrst> hello
[01:29] <altg3k3> what's up?
[01:41] <chris4585> whiskey, thats whats up
[03:37] <alyawn> so a server I'm working (ubuntu server 12.04) seems to have rebooted itself....
[03:37] <alyawn> is there a log or the like that could shed light as to why?
[03:40] <binarymutant> /var/log/ .. something
[03:41] <binarymutant> kernel.log messages.log syslog.log errors.log one of those
[03:42] <binarymutant> how does a server reboot itself though? ._O
[03:43] <alyawn> I"m thinking power failure, but not sure
[03:43] <alyawn> the logs go from everything normal to boot
[03:44] <binarymutant> power flicker?
[03:44] <alyawn> I have on UPS, but I guess it could have failed
[03:44] <binarymutant> strange
[03:44] <binarymutant> there should be a /var/log/old/
[03:44] <alyawn> no kernel panic in log and it usually doesn't reboot on kernel panic
[03:44] <binarymutant> yeah it just hangs
[03:45] <binarymutant> if it was a hardware thing, idk if there would be a log
[03:45] <alyawn> maybe the UPS flaked
[05:01] <chris4585> question I've wondered forever... the text in arch that pops up during boot, where is that logged?
[05:02] <Unit193> /var/log/boot.log for me.
[05:29] <chris4585> no file :/
[05:30] <chris4585> I'll figure it out eventually, thanks
[05:31] <binarymutant> chris4585: /var/log/boot
[05:34] <binarymutant> it's specified in /etc/rc.d/functions and /etc/logrotate.d/bootlog
[05:43] <chris4585> binarymutant, awesome, thanks
[13:04]  * xTEMPLARx is back from the dead...
[14:28] <alyawn> ^ not me... still a zombie
[14:36] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: glad you are no longer amongst the dead
[14:38] <xTEMPLARx> why's that wrst?  Now you and I are competitors to stay alive amongst the walking dead alyawn
[14:39] <alyawn> I expect to be cured of my affliction a week from tomorrow :)
[14:39] <alyawn> so stay indoors until then :)
[14:40] <alyawn> surprisingly, becoming undead hasn't affected my ability to chat in IRC.... odd
[14:40] <wrst> ha ha
[14:40] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i stayed up last night looking at guitar bodies and finishing options, thanks!
[14:41] <xTEMPLARx> That'll learn ye!
[14:41] <xTEMPLARx> www.guitarfetish.com
[14:41] <xTEMPLARx> you're welcome
[14:43] <wrst> yeah thanks xTEMPLARx!
[14:46] <wrst> this looks itneresting: http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Solderless-Cable-System_c_371.html
[14:48] <xTEMPLARx> interesting, but I never trust solderless electrical joints for stuff like this
[14:49] <wrst> me either
[14:49] <wrst> why i said it looked itneresting :)
[18:36] <vychune> binarymutant: ping
[18:37] <vychune> wb lol
[18:37] <vychune> binarymutant: the qucikbooks software is 64 bit :/ that's what has been the problem the whole time
[19:04] <binarymutant> dang
[19:04] <binarymutant> what about the Suse? did you get that installed?
[19:05] <binarymutant> vychune: & and if so what's that like?
[19:05] <vychune> yes its up
[19:06] <vychune> it's running nicely
[19:06] <vychune> hasnt kenerl panic
[19:06] <vychune> paniced
[19:06] <binarymutant> that's good news, does suse use gnome?
[19:06] <binarymutant> I've never tried it, ever
[19:07] <binarymutant> I don't even know what kind of package manager they use
[19:07] <vychune> but you know i heard that you can run 32 bit on 64 and ok, is that always the case?
[19:07] <vychune> rpm
[19:07] <vychune> i'm on KDE
[19:07] <vychune> s/i'm/it's
[19:07] <chris4585> binarymutant, the main version is KDE (which is nice), but there is a gnome edition
[19:08] <chris4585> last I tried it..
[19:08] <binarymutant> for some reason I thought Suse employees were the creators of gnome :/
[19:08] <vychune> wash your mouth with soap
[19:09] <binarymutant> idk I'm almost positive...
[19:10] <binarymutant> Miguel De Icaza I think works for Novell
[19:10] <vychune> hmm ok
[19:11] <vychune> >>> i heard that you can run 32 bit on 64 and ok, is that always the case?
[19:11] <binarymutant> ah and Federico Mena works for Red Hat, so I guess RH and Suse were like the creators of gnome I guess
[19:12] <binarymutant> vychune: idk I think it depends on what system calls/functions the software uses
[19:12] <binarymutant> ^^ but I could definitly be wrong about that too
[19:12] <chris4585> vychune, I'm not sure, but I do believe not every 64bit processor is backwards compatible? but most are...
[19:12] <chris4585> I actually want to look that up now
[19:14] <binarymutant> it's a "I could be wrong" type day :D
[19:14] <vychune> lol
[19:14] <vychune> thats actually what i thought
[19:14] <alyawn> typing "file $binary_name"  will tell you if it's 32 or 64 bit
[19:14] <vychune> i know it 32
[19:15] <vychune> it's
[19:15] <alyawn> and you can run 32bit apps on a 64 bit os..
[19:15] <vychune> bad typing day
[19:15] <alyawn> if you install the 32bit libraries
[19:15] <vychune> dang
[19:15] <alyawn> I believe the package is commonly called ia32-libs or the like
[19:15] <vychune> i'm having trouble finding the 64s
[19:16] <alyawn> for a particular app?
[19:17] <vychune> librariues
[19:17] <alyawn> oh... you're OS has to be 64bit
[19:17] <vychune> it is
[19:19] <chris4585> alyawn, was my last statement correct, because so far all I can find is x86-64 (which I know is backwards compatible)
[19:19] <alyawn> if it's an x86 processor, then yes, it has to be 32bit compatible
[19:19] <alyawn> http://maketecheasier.com/run-32-bit-apps-in-64-bit-linux/2009/08/10
[19:22] <binarymutant> hmm
[19:28] <vychune> indeed lol
[19:30] <vychune> anybody know whwere they stash old rpms?
[19:31] <binarymutant> prolly in /var somewhere
[19:32] <vychune> no i mean older versions
[19:32] <vychune> to dl
[19:36] <vychune> nvm found em ty
[19:38] <vychune> anybody in GOLUM?
[19:46] <vychune> quick question is there a way to donatye to the loco? lol
[19:53] <vychune> >.>
[20:00]  * vychune thinks it got quiet
[20:01] <vychune> lol
[20:01] <vychune> see you guys and thank you so much for your help
[21:10] <netritious> think I'm addicted to packaging
[22:03] <binarymutant> netritious: it's fun stuff
[22:05] <netritious> binarymutant: it helps to know what you are doing...still working on that.
[22:06] <binarymutant> you've read the debian policy and new maintainers guide?
[22:06] <netritious> but i'm getting better at it. having vm's and snapshots helps a bit
[22:07] <netritious> some.
[22:07] <binarymutant> pbuilder is a better chroot for the vm-less
[22:09] <netritious> dh_make -f ../example-upstream-1.0.tar.gz
[22:09] <netritious> that helped a lot lol
[22:10] <netritious> was finally able to package libdnet (libdumbnet1 on debian) after using dh_make like that
[22:11] <netritious> right now working out the build-deps for barnyard2
[22:12] <binarymutant> once you get comfortable you can drop dh_make
[22:13] <netritious> also working on a client website during waits on snapshots and pkg build attempts
[22:14] <netritious> keeping good logs on lintian and backups of debian/* for each src
[22:15] <netritious> i did all the debian/* files by hand the first time around.
[22:17] <binarymutant> ^ best way to do it
[22:17] <binarymutant> although dh_make is really good for first steps
[22:17] <netritious> using dh_make -f is in the new maintainers guide for building packages from upstream src's which is why I'm using it though.
[22:17] <binarymutant> what's the website?
[22:18] <binarymutant> netritious: yeah "new" maintainers guide, not policy
[22:18] <netritious> no domain atm...real time sports stats
[22:18] <binarymutant> that's cool, php scraping another site for scores and stats n stuff?
[22:19] <netritious> nah xml to json to dom
[22:19] <binarymutant> thats cool
[22:21] <netritious> using sencha touch 2 libs...MVC in js is weird though
[22:21] <binarymutant> never heard of that mvc
[22:22] <binarymutant> doesn't seem open :/
[22:23] <netritious> it is...gpl2 or 3
[22:23] <netritious> i think
[22:24] <binarymutant> ah dual, it's got a faq
[22:24] <binarymutant> mvc's are cool but I never really got into them
[22:25] <binarymutant> did some rails stuff a few times but meh
[22:26] <netritious> lots and lots of files but if done right easy to add/change/extend and easier coming behind someone else
[22:26] <binarymutant> I can see that
[22:28] <netritious> i don't have a preference...it's all code to me
[22:29] <binarymutant> +1
[22:34] <binarymutant> netritious: do you use vcs?
[22:34] <binarymutant> like git, etc.
[22:34] <netritious> svn
[22:35] <binarymutant> nothing else?
[22:35] <netritious> i have a git account and some readme for a huge project i never seem to get around starting lol
[22:35] <binarymutant> I've been looking for a way to update svn, git, hg, bzr, and any other vcs's I have all at the same time
[22:36] <binarymutant> I never could code it myself :/
[22:36] <binarymutant> or maybe I just got lazy & dropped the project, but I need something to do all that
[22:36] <netritious> i consume git resources but only have used cvs and svn on projects i coded for
[22:37] <netritious> *I've coded for
[22:38] <netritious> that would be a neat tool binarymutant
[22:38] <binarymutant> yeah, still looking for it though
[23:05] <wrst> wb binarymutant :)
[23:12] <binarymutant> ty ty
[23:13] <binarymutant> wish there was a way to add X fonts without having to restart X
[23:18]  * wrst is using kdenlive, it hasn't crashed yet...
[23:20] <wrst> binarymutant: i'm thinking dealing with hd video on a laptop without a super graphics card may not be the best idea :)
[23:25] <binarymutant> ?
[23:25] <binarymutant> oh editing super hd? yeah prolly
[23:25] <binarymutant> I was about to say my nouveau driver can play hd just fine
[23:30] <wrst> this is just 720
[23:31] <binarymutant> I think your intel card should be able to do it
[23:31] <binarymutant> idk anything about editing video though :/
[23:31] <binarymutant> I know encoding though :D
[23:37] <chris4585> editing isn't fun... I have some software that came with my brothers roxio game capture device which is surprisingly good
[23:37] <chris4585> I've also messed with sony vegas and I thought it was insanely difficult