[01:04] <zeref> anybody up?
[05:30] <superfly> zeref: i might have been, but not out of specific choice
[05:30] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos hi
[05:31] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:24] <Kilos> morning all
[06:43] <Kilos> morning SilverCode 
[06:43] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:43] <SilverCode> moring
[06:43] <jrgns> morning...
[06:56] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:06] <Kilos> inetpro, môre oompie
[07:06] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[08:32] <SilverCode> anyone know if it is possible to record the video of a virtualbox session?
[08:32] <SilverCode> mu google-fu isn't very strong today
[08:32] <SilverCode> *my
[09:10] <superfly> :-( I have to endure a day of work before I can get my hands on my Kindle Fire :-( :-(
[09:11] <Kilos> lol
[09:11] <Kilos> never mind
[09:11] <Kilos> whats one day
[09:16] <superfly> agony, that's what one day is.
[09:16] <Kilos> lol
[09:17] <Kilos> where exactly?
[09:17] <Kilos> in the longing button
[09:28] <smile> hoi! :p
[09:35] <Kilos> hoi smile 
[09:44] <smile> hoi Kilos- :p
[10:01] <Kilos> google how to permanently enable mobile broadband on nm 12.04
[10:01] <Kilos> oops
[11:32] <tumbleweed> Maaz: tell magespawn thanks
[11:32] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[11:45] <Kilos> tumbleweed, can you find some time tonight or whenever to try help me fix nm to get modeswitch working and auto connect please
[11:46] <Kilos> been googling and following all the advice from launchpad evn changed conf files but still no joy
[11:46] <Kilos> even
[11:52] <Kilos> can use it with cellphone but wont autoconnect and with modem then mobile broadband enable doesnt even show
[11:56] <Kilos> or point me to the right link or person please
[12:02] <tumbleweed> I didn't know NM could auto-connect 3g connections
[12:02] <Kilos> it has on all other releases
[12:03] <Kilos> shows in this one too but doesnt work
[12:03] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[12:04] <Kilos> in configure vpn
[12:07] <Kilos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1033579
[12:08] <Kilos> they told me things like nokia 2720 works but 2730 doesnt and ive been using my 2730 for a coupla years
[12:09] <Kilos> drussell, hi do you see any progress on that bug?
[12:10] <drussell> Kilos: no, I've kept an eye on it, but not had a chance to poke anyone yet
[12:11] <Kilos> oh , i didnt mean from you personally
[12:11] <Kilos> the rest of the community
[12:14] <Kilos> for peeps using mobile broadband to connect its a top priority thing methinks
[12:26] <makhatemakhate> Anybody home?
[12:30] <Kilos> hi makhatemakhate 
[12:31] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[12:31] <Kilos> do you need linux/ubuntu help?
[13:03] <makhatemakhate> Afternoon Kilos
[13:03] <makhatemakhate> Sorry for the daley
[13:03] <makhatemakhate> ...for the delay
[13:04] <Kilos> np
[13:04] <makhatemakhate> I just want to be part of Ubuntu-za even though I live in Lesotho
[13:04] <makhatemakhate> Is that OK/
[13:04] <Kilos> yeah
[13:04] <Kilos> welcome
[13:04] <Kilos> we got guys from all over here
[13:04] <makhatemakhate> as in guys from Lesotho?
[13:05] <Kilos> nope netherlands and belgium etc
[13:05] <makhatemakhate> ok
[13:05] <Kilos> couple in the states and england
[13:05] <makhatemakhate> Anyone from Lesotho?
[13:05] <Kilos> not that i know of
[13:06] <Kilos> too cold there by you
[13:06] <makhatemakhate> :)
[13:06] <Kilos> hi smile-brb 
[13:06] <makhatemakhate> But we can live it
[13:07] <Kilos> lol
[13:07] <makhatemakhate> I heard you're having a meeting on the 20th
[13:07] <makhatemakhate> I'd like to come...
[13:07] <Kilos> yes right here. where did you hear 
[13:08] <makhatemakhate> mmm from maia grotepass
[13:09] <makhatemakhate> I don't know how s/he got hold of my email address
[13:09] <Kilos> lol
[13:09] <makhatemakhate> :)
[13:09] <makhatemakhate> what's funny?
[13:09] <makhatemakhate> :)
[13:09] <Kilos> you must try find more guys from your area and you can have ubuntu hours there
[13:10] <Kilos> she is a hard worker
[13:10] <makhatemakhate> Yah
[13:10] <Kilos> have you joined the mailing list
[13:10] <makhatemakhate> I have joined the digest-za mail list
[13:11] <Kilos> our list ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[13:11] <makhatemakhate> yah, something list that...
[13:12] <makhatemakhate> I already have it
[13:12] <Kilos> good
[13:12] <Kilos> what OS are you using
[13:12] <makhatemakhate> it's just that I wanna join your meeting so that I can learn what you guys do so that I take to Lesotho
[13:13] <Kilos> I actually dont help people here I am the greeting bot
[13:13] <makhatemakhate> I use Snow Leopard as work
[13:13] <Kilos> yes you can start a loco in lesotho
[13:13] <makhatemakhate> I meant at work I use Snow Leopard
[13:13] <makhatemakhate> yah
[13:14] <makhatemakhate> But don't you think it'd be better to attend a couple of meetings so that I can learn a few things?
[13:15] <Kilos> yes you are welcome to see how things work here by us
[13:15] <Kilos> are you in the IT profession
[13:15] <makhatemakhate> Yah
[13:16] <makhatemakhate> I'm a database administrator
[13:16] <Kilos> ah
[13:16] <makhatemakhate> well, in my own right...
[13:16] <makhatemakhate> :)
[13:17] <makhatemakhate> what I mean is, I'm not top notch, though
[13:17] <makhatemakhate> :)
[13:18] <Kilos> sooner or later
[13:18] <smile-brb> hi Kilos :p
[13:18] <Kilos> just work at it
[13:19] <Kilos> assup smile-brb 
[13:19] <Kilos> wassup as well
[13:20] <smile-brb> Kilos: i'm fine, but brb to 15u35 :)
[13:20] <smile-brb> :p
[13:20] <Kilos> k
[13:32] <smile-brb> back :)
[13:32] <Kilos> lol
[13:32] <smile> Kilos: why lol :)
[13:32] <Kilos> you 3 mins early
[14:01] <charlvn> good afternoon
[14:02] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[14:02] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[14:02] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[14:02]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:02] <Kilos> hmm
[14:02] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[14:02] <charlvn> Maaz: why are you so slow
[14:02] <Maaz> charlvn: I already know stuff about why
[14:02] <Kilos> lol
[14:03] <charlvn> very intelligent answer :P
[14:03] <charlvn> i'm sure that won't pass the turing test though
[14:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos!
[14:06] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[14:06] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[14:08] <charlvn> Maaz: danke
[14:08] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[14:16] <zeref> hmmmm
[14:43] <Trixar_za> Kilos: If you're interested, I redid the sakis3g build
[14:43] <Kilos> yo Trixar_za 
[14:43] <Trixar_za> And the damn database is STILL broken. Had to merge old and new databases to get it to work
[14:43] <Kilos> yip please if you will explain nicely to me how to confige it so it gets mxit and my emails too
[14:44] <Trixar_za> It even had the bug in it I reported 2 months ago :/
[14:44] <Kilos> eish
[14:44] <Kilos> broken bu them?
[14:44] <Kilos> by
[14:44] <Trixar_za> Yeah
[14:44] <Trixar_za> They simplified the files 2 releases back
[14:44] <Kilos> they seem to be doing other things
[14:44] <Trixar_za> Removed the redundancy so to speak
[14:44] <Trixar_za> But enroute they broke something
[14:45] <Trixar_za> They also left some files incomplete
[14:45] <Kilos> eish
[14:45] <Kilos> wonder why they seem to have got slack
[14:45] <Trixar_za> I found the easiest way was to use the old database from a few releases back that worked
[14:45] <Kilos> sakis3g works here
[14:45] <Trixar_za> and merge into it only the changed and new files
[14:45] <Kilos> ah
[14:45] <Trixar_za> That seems to fix it
[14:46] <Kilos> when you gonna debug nm and modeswitch
[14:46] <Kilos> half the world will love you
[14:46] <Trixar_za> Well, I can't debug nm, but I can probably give you the working copy if the current database
[14:47] <Kilos> of nm?
[14:47] <Trixar_za> If it works with Sakis3g, it will probably work with the current Ubuntu version of usb_modeswitch
[14:47] <Trixar_za> Which in proxy would make nm work
[14:47] <Kilos> oh great
[14:48] <Kilos> i have made so mayny conf files and changed so many i dunno where i am anymore
[14:48] <Kilos> and 12.04 hasnt broken even
[14:48] <Kilos> nm works but the modeswitch does let see modem as modem
[14:49] <Kilos> dunno if i must change that product=0000 to 0017 or something
[14:50] <Trixar_za> http://trixarian.net/usb-modeswitch-data-fixed.tar.bz2
[14:50] <Trixar_za> You'll have to copy it to the right place though
[14:50] <Kilos> but lets sort sakis3g first
[14:50] <Kilos> ok tell where
[14:50] <Trixar_za> I don't know where that is in Ubuntu :P
[14:51] <Kilos> you know sakis
[14:51] <Trixar_za> Oh, I'll upload it :P
[14:51] <Kilos> i followed their instructions and wgot the file and it installed via their instructions
[14:52] <Kilos> now dunno even where that first how to is
[14:53] <Kilos> the important thing is , it must restart on its own if there is some break in connection
[14:58] <Trixar_za> There, it should be fully updated everywhere
[14:58] <Trixar_za> http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz
[14:59] <Kilos> ok lemme go fetch
[14:59] <Kilos> can i wget that link??
[15:00] <Kilos> Trixar_za, ^^
[15:00] <Trixar_za> wget http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz
[15:00] <Kilos> ty sir
[15:00] <Trixar_za> and gunzip sakis3g.gz when you're done
[15:01] <Trixar_za> I only gzipped it because that's 'standard' for the 2 year old version
[15:02] <Trixar_za> So Sakis3g users don't get confused :P
[15:05] <Kilos> wow its taking forever
[15:05] <Kilos> 25% now
[15:05] <Kilos> such a tiny file
[15:06] <Kilos> 1.2K/s
[15:06] <Kilos> slowest i ever seen
[15:09] <Trixar_za> It's also not fully tested. Only a handful of people have used it :P
[15:09] <Trixar_za> But I'm connected using it now, so I assume it works
[15:10] <Trixar_za> The new file is also about 6kb bigger than the last one
[15:10] <Trixar_za> and still double the size of the old sakis3g :/
[15:11] <Kilos> lol
[15:12] <Kilos> still tiny compared to other stuff
[15:14] <Trixar_za> Well, it has 241 devices in the database compared to the old version's 100 or so devices
[15:14] <Trixar_za> :p
[15:14] <Trixar_za> So the database itself is double it's original size
[15:14] <Kilos> unzip is extract hey?
[15:15] <Kilos> right click extract
[15:16] <Kilos> now what do i do with that extracted file
[15:17] <Kilos> 469.3 kB hey?
[15:17] <Trixar_za> yeah
[15:17] <Trixar_za> run it
[15:17] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:17] <Trixar_za> ./sakis3g
[15:17] <Kilos> whew
[15:17] <Trixar_za> Picking the first option when connecting works
[15:18] <Trixar_za> But it's ncurses based dialog code is a little broken. Luckily it falls back on better stuff in Ubuntu.
[15:18] <Kilos> i have it extracted on my desktop , ./sakis3g doesnt work
[15:19] <Trixar_za> sudo cp sakis3g /usr/bin/sakis3g ?
[15:19] <queery> bello
[15:19] <Trixar_za> then it should run as sakis3g from the terminal
[15:19] <queery> Maaz, coffee on
[15:19]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:19] <Kilos> with the ?
[15:19] <Trixar_za> without the ?
[15:19] <Trixar_za> :p
[15:20] <Kilos> cp: cannot stat `sakis3g': No such file or directory
[15:21] <Trixar_za> Oo
[15:21] <Trixar_za> what?
[15:21] <Kilos> cp /home/miles/Desktop/sakis3g /usr/bin/sakis3g  ?
[15:22] <Kilos> or /home/Desktop
[15:22] <Trixar_za> /home/miles/Desktop/sakis3g probably
[15:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[15:24] <queery> Maaz, ty
[15:24] <Maaz> You are welcome queery
[15:34] <Kilos> looks like it went there Trixar_za 
[15:34] <Kilos> term went back to prompt
[15:35] <Trixar_za> Hmmm
[15:36] <Kilos> will it upgrade itself now?
[15:36] <Kilos> uh oh whats with the hmmm
[15:36] <Trixar_za> It's not finding the right interface to work with
[15:37] <Kilos> isnt going back to prompt when its successful
[15:37] <Trixar_za> echo SGUI="interactive terminal" > sakis3g.conf
[15:38] <Trixar_za> sudo cp sakis3g.conf /etc/sakis3g.conf
[15:38] <Trixar_za> That tells it to use the interactive terminal interface
[15:39] <Trixar_za> There is a command line flag for it, but I doubt you want to keep typing it the whole time
[15:39] <Kilos> lots to type?
[15:40] <Kilos> do you use sakis in text mode
[15:40] <Kilos> i got gui
[15:41] <Trixar_za> Yeah, that's what we're looking for
[15:41] <Trixar_za> And yes, mostly because SliTaz doesn't support the other interfaces
[15:41] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:41] <Kilos> oh ya you not on ubuntu
[15:42] <Trixar_za> Press 1 and see if it can get you connected
[15:42] <Kilos> i even found one place where they say sakis3g doesnt work on 12.04 but mine is
[15:42] <Trixar_za> It will ask you several questions though, but for me picking the first option worked
[15:42] <Trixar_za> options*
[15:43] <Kilos> inna terminal ?
[15:43] <Trixar_za> yeah
[15:43] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ 1
[15:43] <Kilos> 1: command not found
[15:43] <Kilos> lol
[15:43] <Trixar_za> Don't you have sakis3g running? Oo
[15:43] <Kilos> i must surely open sakis first
[15:43] <Trixar_za> lol, yeah
[15:44] <Kilos> lol
[15:44] <Kilos> its open on desktop now but 1 in terminal does niks
[15:46] <Trixar_za> It's not showing you a menu like:
[15:46] <Trixar_za> Please select an action
[15:46] <Trixar_za> Choose action for Sakis3G script to follow.
[15:46] <Trixar_za> Available options are:
[15:47] <Kilos> maybe i must close the gui and open in text till we got it setup properly then go back gui again?
[15:47] <Kilos> ya a little window
[15:47] <Trixar_za> Well click on or press 1. Depending on the interface.
[15:48] <Trixar_za> Should say Connect or something
[15:48] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:48] <Kilos> disconnect  connection info etc
[15:48] <Trixar_za> disconnect? So you're already connected?
[15:48] <Kilos> it musta connected already because only disconnect shows
[15:48] <Trixar_za> Yeah
[15:48] <Kilos> i didnt even tell it connect
[15:48] <Kilos> it
[15:49] <Kilos> oh but modem not plugged in even so maybe it sees my phone is connected
[15:50] <Trixar_za> lol, probably
[15:51] <Trixar_za> It checks for ppp0
[15:54] <Trixar_za> wb
[15:54] <Kilos-> ty sakis connected
[15:54] <Kilos-> now where i see them red blue green lights
[15:56] <Kilos-> i have that tux emblem on desktop but no connection display lights
[15:57] <Trixar_za> It has an option for that
[15:57] <Trixar_za> No that I ever used it
[15:59] <Kilos> ok once it is open and working how do i get to add all these options
[15:59] <Kilos> they dont show in the gui
[16:00] <Kilos> i see generate success report and
[16:00] <queery> so who is conning to ubuntu hour tomorrow?
[16:01] <Kilos> compile embedded usb-modeswitch
[16:01] <Trixar_za> http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_UI#Helper
[16:01] <Kilos> queery, have you advertised your uh
[16:01] <Kilos> i go look ty
[16:01] <Trixar_za> Needs Zenity though (which comes with GNOME)
[16:02] <queery> yes
[16:02] <queery> twice on ubuntu-za mailing list
[16:03] <Kilos> i didnt get it once
[16:03] <queery> are you serious
[16:03] <queery> it never bounced
[16:04] <Kilos> nothing here  ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:04] <queery> it had to have gone through
[16:04] <queery> het vandag 'n oproep oor dit gekry
[16:05] <queery> Hi Guys & Gals
[16:05] <queery> Just a reminder of the Ubuntu Hour on Saturday (11/8/2012) for all the Gauteng Geeks.
[16:05] <queery> It will be held at the Rosebank Mall Mugg&Bean again, which is right next to the Rosebank Gautrain station. www.gautrain.co.za
[16:05] <queery> Please come and join us for a coffee and/or a muffin, bring your toys and your kids. There is also 30min free wifi.
[16:05] <queery> http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/08/03/ubuntu-hour-jhb-11082012
[16:05] <queery> Please RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1886/detail/
[16:05] <queery>   
[16:05] <queery> I will also try and remember the Official Ubuntu CD's, so that will be the spot to collect if you want any CD's.
[16:05] <Kilos> oh that one
[16:06] <queery> ....'
[16:06] <Kilos> i keep thinking you in the cape
[16:06] <queery> al vi 5 maande nie
[16:06] <Kilos> ai
[16:06] <queery> and nno other person has org a jhb ubuntu hour
[16:06] <Kerbero> ja ai :(
[16:06] <Kerbero> ons mis queery in die kaap
[16:07] <queery> ahhhh
[16:07] <queery> ek mis die kaap ook
[16:09] <Kerbero> nou is die vraag, mis jy die kaap of mis jy ons?
[16:09] <queery> alby natuurlik
[16:09] <Kerbero> :)
[16:10] <queery> jhb is lelik... die omgewing bedoel ek
[16:10] <queery> nie veel vir die oog nie
[16:10] <queery> maar ek het darm man gevang hier
[16:12] <Kilos> zenity is installed here Trixar_za but  sakis3g helper --kdialog
[16:12] <Kilos> shows nothing
[16:13] <Kilos> just a white flashing square 
[16:15] <Trixar_za> Don't use --kdialog
[16:15] <Trixar_za> :p
[16:15] <Trixar_za> That's for KDE and is only an example
[16:17] <Kilos> eish cant believe it that page opened at the bottom of the page so i didnt see all the other stuff
[16:27] <smile> bye
[16:27] <smile> doei :)
[16:28] <Kilos> cheers smile 
[16:28] <Kilos> be good
[16:28] <smile> thanks Kilos :D
[16:28] <smile> see ya :)
[16:33] <Kilos> Header file usb.h missing from your system. This usually indicates libusb (or libusb-compat) development kit missing. 
[16:34] <Kilos> thats from compile embedded usb-modeswitch
[16:34] <Kilos> what now
[16:35] <Kilos> i did sakis3g helper --zenity and a little window opened saying vodacom-za
[16:37] <Kilos> Trixar_za, ^^ sorry to bug you so
[16:38] <Kilos> how do i activate the extra things 
[16:38] <Kilos> at least my mails are working so you did something right
[16:38] <Trixar_za> Which extra things?
[16:38] <Kilos> them red blue green indicators
[16:39] <Kilos> yay mxit working too ty
[16:40] <Trixar_za> Supposably, it should be showing a tux icon that changes colour when you have helper running
[16:40] <Kilos> where?
[16:41] <Trixar_za> On your system tray on your panel
[16:41] <Kilos> hmmm
[16:41] <Kilos> is that the top panel?
[16:41] <Trixar_za> It changes colour based on it's status. It should be green now that you're connected
[16:42] <Kilos> this thing on the left is the menu thing i think
[16:43] <Kilos> i have the shortcut on desktop and when open tux is in the menu panel as well but no colour change
[16:47] <Trixar_za> Won't really know Kilos. I only use the terminal based part of it to get connected.
[16:47] <Trixar_za> You can just Sakis3g to switch the modem, then let Network Manager take over with Mobile Broadband
[16:47] <Kilos> ok  ty , they dont give info for amateurs to follow
[16:48] <Trixar_za> It should be under the menu option 2
[16:48] <Kilos> oh i will try that. that would be great ty
[16:56] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:56]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[17:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:00] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:00] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:33] <charlvn> reading through this interesting post by cocooncrash : http://michael.gorven.za.net/blog/2012/08/06/xbmc-packages-raspberry-pi-running-raspbian
[17:47] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[17:47] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[17:47] <charlvn> good evening
[17:47] <Kilos> hey charly wassup
[17:48] <Kilos> wb Trix[a]r_za 
[17:48] <Kilos> ty for the help, sakis still connected
[17:53] <Kilos> haai nuvolari waar is jy
[17:53] <Kilos> superfly, hows the family ?
[17:53] <Cantide> evening '-'
[17:54] <Kilos> saw a funny battery driven pennt farthing bicycle on the idiot box today
[17:54] <Kilos> penny
[17:54] <superfly> Kilos: doing OK thanks
[17:54] <Kilos> uses cellphone batteries i think. can do 23 kph and 10 ks on a charge
[17:55] <Kilos> the guy said only R45000
[17:58] <charlvn> "only"
[17:58] <charlvn> you can buy an electric bike in NL for 800 euro i think
[17:58] <charlvn> about 8K ZAR
[18:00] <charlvn> i almost thought of getting one but being 25 i feel it's a bit stupid for me
[18:00] <charlvn> maybe for the older folk
[18:00] <charlvn> they are pretty cool though
[18:01] <Kilos> lol this is a small think, was kinda cute. i missed the site they advertised
[18:01] <Kilos> thing
[18:01] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn
[18:01] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 1 day, 2 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-08-09 18:00:15 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-08-09 19:36:41 SAST
[18:02] <Kilos> oh my. hope a lion didnt get him
[18:03] <Kilos> charlvn, 25 is a good age to have a large bike
[18:04] <Kilos> or a car inna cold country
[18:06] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman you guys are quiet
[18:06] <Kilos> and you Squirm y
[18:07] <Kilos> getting cold here again so must be near bedtime
[18:08] <Cantide> on the news they forecast 32 for Durban tomorrow
[18:08] <Cantide> i hope it's a mistake
[18:08] <Cantide> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> 32 is lekker
[18:08] <Kilos> beach weather
[18:08] <Cantide> noooooooooo
[18:08] <Cantide> 25 is nice :)
[18:09] <Kilos> hahaha 
[18:09] <Kilos> go visit magespawn in summer
[18:09] <charlvn> Kilos: lol it's not really a "large" one, it's just a regular bicycle with an electric motor and a battery :)
[18:09] <Kilos> goes around 40°c 
[18:10] <charlvn> phew you crazy people
[18:10] <charlvn> it reminds me of gaborone
[18:10] <charlvn> can go up to 50
[18:10] <charlvn> but at least it's low humidity there in the desert
[18:10] <Kilos> this one the guy used to get to bus stop then folded it up like a suitcase and carried it one hended
[18:10] <Kilos> handed
[18:11] <charlvn> that's nice
[18:11] <charlvn> i haven't seen that yet
[18:14] <Kilos> picture a small penny farthing bike that you kinda sit on the handles
[18:14] <Kilos> was very cute
[18:16] <charlvn> hmmm doesn't sound too comfortable though
[18:16] <Kilos> lol no man had a seat there
[18:16] <Kilos> hehe
[18:17] <charlvn> still ;)
[18:17] <Kilos> im sorry i missed the link
[18:22] <nuvolari> sjoe, it's nippy
[18:22] <nuvolari> g'evening oom Kilos 
[18:22] <nuvolari> hallo charlvn 
[18:23] <nuvolari> ha, absa se hoof-skurk is nou op noot-vir-noot
[18:23] <Kilos> yeah freezing here too nuvolari . you gonna be 12°c tonight
[18:23] <nuvolari> hoof-iets, ek kon nie moor ontou wat die iets was nie :P
[18:23] <Kilos> we gonne be 0°c
[18:24] <nuvolari> Kilos: that's not too bad oom, think it was around that temperature last night too
[18:24] <Kilos> wanna swop?
[18:24] <Kilos> you got 10 days to prepare for next meeting hey nuvolari 
[18:25] <nuvolari> sjoh... the lady on noot-vir-noot is freakin sharp!!
[18:25] <nuvolari> :O
[18:26] <Kilos> lyk my jou tv werk
[18:26] <nuvolari> she just made R180'000 out of Noot-vir-Noot
[18:26] <Kilos> uiteindelik
[18:26] <nuvolari> (combined)
[18:26] <Kilos> sy ken haar musiek ne
[18:26] <nuvolari> ja oom, my broer het wonderbaarlik die ander 3 kanale gekry :P
[18:27] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <Kilos> twisted.internet.error.CannotListenError:
[18:29] <Kilos> sigh
[18:30] <nuvolari> eh?
[18:30] <nuvolari> you must clean its ears oom Kilos 
[18:30] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:30] <Kilos> WARNING core.reloader: Couldn't load feeds plugin because it requires module cannot import name html2text_file
[18:31] <Kilos> dom bot
[18:36] <Kilos> haai nuvolari 
[18:36] <Kilos> is jy op 12.04
[18:37] <nuvolari> nee oom, dis nou so 08:37
[18:37] <nuvolari> na middag
[18:37] <Kilos> lol
[18:37] <nuvolari> :P
[18:37] <Kilos> precise man dom donner
[18:37] <nuvolari> ok presies? 20:38:00
[18:38] <nuvolari> 12.04 ja oom :P
[18:38] <Kilos> met mobile broadband
[18:38] <Kilos> ???
[18:39] <nuvolari> ja
[18:39] <nuvolari> met my 3g kaart?
[18:39] <Kilos> hoe het jy die nm gekry om te werk?
[18:39] <nuvolari> hmm... hy het net gewerk oom
[18:39] <Kilos> o nie n usb dongle nie
[18:39] <nuvolari> ja, die usb dongle
[18:39] <Kilos> myne kannie die modem sien nie
[18:40] <Kilos> nou hoekom moet ek sukkel
[18:40] <nuvolari> hmm
[18:40] <nuvolari> is oom nou op 12.04?
[18:40] <Kilos> ek het tot bug report gedoen
[18:40] <Kilos> ya
[18:40] <nuvolari> hoe connect oom nou?
[18:41] <Kilos> met sakis3g
[18:41] <Kilos> trixie het my gehelp
[18:41] <Kilos> nm wys nie enable mobile broadband nie
[18:41] <nuvolari> hmm, het oom iets in syslog gesien as oom die modem inprop?
[18:42] <Kilos> en met my foon in wil dit ook nie auto connect nie
[18:42] <nuvolari> het oom al die usb ports probeer?
[18:42] <Kilos> tail /var/log/syslog?
[18:42] <nuvolari> jip
[18:42] <Kilos> ja orals in gedruk
[18:43] <Kilos> ek het al vergeet wat se dit daar
[18:44] <nuvolari> maar het hy wel iets gewys toe oom hom indruk?
[18:44] <Kilos> ek sal more weer kyk en paste uitslag
[18:44] <Kilos> ja
[18:45] <Kilos> maar modeswitch switch nie
[18:45] <Kilos> ek het al baie conf files ge edit
[18:45] <Kilos> lol
[18:45] <nuvolari> ek't altyd net pon/poff gebruik, maar toe werk dit nie meer nie, toe werk nm-applet nog
[18:46] <Kilos> pon/poff?
[18:46] <Squirm> hi
[18:46] <Kilos> jy weet in die applet is daar enable broadband
[18:46] <Squirm> Kilos: it starts and stops ppp
[18:46] <nuvolari> Kilos: cli dialer
[18:46] <Kilos> ah
[18:47] <Kilos> met foon in wys dit maar met usb ding wys dit nie
[18:48] <Kilos> maar ek gaan nie nou worry oor dit nie
[18:48] <Kilos> amper slaap tyd
[18:50] <nuvolari> ons moet net die log check
[18:50] <nuvolari> ek dink daar is net iets wat ons mis
[18:50] <Kilos> ek het nou probber maar dit wys ander goed
[18:51] <nuvolari> waai ander goed oom?
[18:51] <Kilos> wag ek kry dit weer
[18:52] <Kilos> Aug 10 20:50:01 P4 CRON[19424]: (root) CMD (if [ -x /usr/bin/gsmsmsrequeue ]; then /usr/bin/gsmsmsrequeue; fi)
[18:52] <Kilos> baie rye van dit
[18:52] <Kilos> niks anders nie
[18:52] <nuvolari> hmm. odd
[18:52] <nuvolari> and lsusb?
[18:53] <Kilos> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones 
[18:53] <Kilos> daai 0000 is storage mode
[18:54] <Kilos> ek het tot daai in conf verander
[18:54] <Kilos> trixie se daar is iets in modeswitch wat verkeerd is
[18:55] <nuvolari> dit is dalk 'n udev rule wat nie vir daardie modem in 12.04 is nie
[18:55] <nuvolari> ek kan nie mooi onthou hoe dit werk nie
[18:55] <Kilos> ek het tot dit verander
[18:56] <Kilos> google al amper 2 weke vir oplossing
[18:59] <nuvolari> wat sê usb-devices oom?
[18:59] <Trixar_za> Die usb_modeswitch database het foute in dit @ nuvolari
[18:59] <Trixar_za> Al van die begin van die jaar
[19:00] <Kilos> i wonder can i remove this modeswitch and install that one
[19:01] <Kilos> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
[19:03] <Kilos> at this age i just noticed that word has same spelling and meaning in eng/afr
[19:03] <nuvolari> how about this one oom Kilos? Do you have access to a windows system?
[19:03] <nuvolari> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12095938&postcount=5
[19:04] <Kilos> i have xp on small drive
[19:05] <Kilos> hehe i even have a win7 ultimate cd
[19:05] <Kilos> that looks good nuvolari ty
[19:05] <Trixar_za> :/
[19:05] <Kilos> what Trixar_za ?
[19:05] <Trixar_za> Sometimes I wonder about you guys
[19:05] <Trixar_za> :P
[19:05] <nuvolari> toemaar Trixar_za, ek ignoreer jou nie
[19:05] <Trixar_za> Sakis3g might not be fancy, but it works
[19:06] <Kilos> you never heard of. know the enemy
[19:06] <Trixar_za> And Betavine is there for the other end :P
[19:06] <nuvolari> I won't try betavine ever again
[19:06] <Kilos> and keep your enemies closer than your friends
[19:06] <nuvolari> it sucked the rist time
[19:06] <nuvolari> &first
[19:06] <nuvolari> *first
[19:06] <Trixar_za> lol
[19:06] <Trixar_za> http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz
[19:07] <Trixar_za> The rebuilt copy
[19:07] <Kilos> yes Trixar_za but im used to ubuntu just working
[19:07] <Trixar_za> Still the best, even if it's not overly fancy
[19:07]  * nuvolari doesn't trust it *cough*
[19:07] <nuvolari> :P
[19:07] <Kilos> well it works here today
[19:07] <Trixar_za> It's open source
[19:07] <Trixar_za> I even added 8ta
[19:07] <Trixar_za> :P
[19:07] <Trixar_za> So there
[19:07] <Kilos> dit werk goed nuvolari  ek het dit by hom gekry
[19:08] <Kilos> oh not 8.ta
[19:08] <Kilos> nm sees them as 8.ta
[19:09] <Trixar_za> Yeah, I noticed that in Sakis3G too
[19:09] <Trixar_za> So I changed the provider identifier from 8ta to 8.ta
[19:10] <Trixar_za> http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-source.tar.gz
[19:10] <Trixar_za> If you want my working source :P
[19:10] <Trixar_za> oops
[19:10] <Trixar_za> forgot the version
[19:10]  * nuvolari doesn't see any github link
[19:10] <Trixar_za> http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-0.2.0e-source.tar.gz
[19:11] <Trixar_za> http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-0.2.0e-source.tar.bz2
[19:11] <Trixar_za> That last one works
[19:11] <Trixar_za> Stupid memory
[19:11] <Trixar_za> :P
[19:14] <Kilos> uh oh something happened
[19:14] <Kilos> cant open any files on desktop
[19:15] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[19:15] <nuvolari> nag oom Kilos 
[19:15] <nuvolari> lekker slaap
[19:15] <Kilos> we fight again tomorrow
[19:15] <Kilos> jy ook dankie seun