[01:04] anybody up? === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:30] zeref: i might have been, but not out of specific choice [05:30] Maaz: tell Kilos hi [05:31] superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [06:24] morning all [06:43] morning SilverCode [06:43] hi superfly [06:43] moring [06:43] morning... [06:56] hi jrgns [07:06] inetpro, môre oompie [07:06] lo nuvolari [08:32] anyone know if it is possible to record the video of a virtualbox session? [08:32] mu google-fu isn't very strong today [08:32] *my [09:10] :-( I have to endure a day of work before I can get my hands on my Kindle Fire :-( :-( [09:11] lol [09:11] never mind [09:11] whats one day [09:16] agony, that's what one day is. [09:16] lol [09:17] where exactly? [09:17] in the longing button [09:28] hoi! :p [09:35] hoi smile [09:44] hoi Kilos- :p === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [10:01] google how to permanently enable mobile broadband on nm 12.04 [10:01] oops [11:32] Maaz: tell magespawn thanks [11:32] tumbleweed: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [11:45] tumbleweed, can you find some time tonight or whenever to try help me fix nm to get modeswitch working and auto connect please [11:46] been googling and following all the advice from launchpad evn changed conf files but still no joy [11:46] even [11:52] can use it with cellphone but wont autoconnect and with modem then mobile broadband enable doesnt even show [11:56] or point me to the right link or person please [12:02] I didn't know NM could auto-connect 3g connections [12:02] it has on all other releases [12:03] shows in this one too but doesnt work [12:03] hi kbmonkey [12:04] in configure vpn [12:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1033579 [12:08] they told me things like nokia 2720 works but 2730 doesnt and ive been using my 2730 for a coupla years [12:09] drussell, hi do you see any progress on that bug? [12:10] Kilos: no, I've kept an eye on it, but not had a chance to poke anyone yet [12:11] oh , i didnt mean from you personally [12:11] the rest of the community [12:14] for peeps using mobile broadband to connect its a top priority thing methinks [12:26] Anybody home? [12:30] hi makhatemakhate [12:31] welcome to ubuntu-za [12:31] do you need linux/ubuntu help? [13:03] Afternoon Kilos [13:03] Sorry for the daley [13:03] ...for the delay [13:04] np [13:04] I just want to be part of Ubuntu-za even though I live in Lesotho [13:04] Is that OK/ [13:04] yeah [13:04] welcome [13:04] we got guys from all over here [13:04] as in guys from Lesotho? [13:05] nope netherlands and belgium etc [13:05] ok [13:05] couple in the states and england [13:05] Anyone from Lesotho? [13:05] not that i know of [13:06] too cold there by you === smile is now known as smile-brb [13:06] :) [13:06] hi smile-brb [13:06] But we can live it [13:07] lol [13:07] I heard you're having a meeting on the 20th [13:07] I'd like to come... [13:07] yes right here. where did you hear [13:08] mmm from maia grotepass [13:09] I don't know how s/he got hold of my email address [13:09] lol [13:09] :) [13:09] what's funny? [13:09] :) [13:09] you must try find more guys from your area and you can have ubuntu hours there [13:10] she is a hard worker [13:10] Yah [13:10] have you joined the mailing list [13:10] I have joined the digest-za mail list [13:11] our list ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [13:11] yah, something list that... [13:12] I already have it [13:12] good [13:12] what OS are you using [13:12] it's just that I wanna join your meeting so that I can learn what you guys do so that I take to Lesotho [13:13] I actually dont help people here I am the greeting bot [13:13] I use Snow Leopard as work [13:13] yes you can start a loco in lesotho [13:13] I meant at work I use Snow Leopard [13:13] yah [13:14] But don't you think it'd be better to attend a couple of meetings so that I can learn a few things? [13:15] yes you are welcome to see how things work here by us [13:15] are you in the IT profession [13:15] Yah [13:16] I'm a database administrator [13:16] ah [13:16] well, in my own right... [13:16] :) [13:17] what I mean is, I'm not top notch, though [13:17] :) [13:18] sooner or later [13:18] hi Kilos :p [13:18] just work at it [13:19] assup smile-brb [13:19] wassup as well [13:20] Kilos: i'm fine, but brb to 15u35 :) [13:20] :p [13:20] k [13:32] back :) [13:32] lol === smile-brb is now known as smile [13:32] Kilos: why lol :) [13:32] you 3 mins early [14:01] good afternoon [14:02] Maaz: coffee on [14:02] hi charlvn [14:02] Maaz, coffee please [14:02] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [14:02] hmm [14:02] Kilos: Sure [14:02] Maaz: why are you so slow [14:02] charlvn: I already know stuff about why [14:02] lol [14:03] very intelligent answer :P [14:03] i'm sure that won't pass the turing test though [14:06] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [14:06] Maaz, ty [14:06] You are welcome Kilos [14:08] Maaz: danke [14:08] Bitteschön [14:16] hmmmm === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [14:43] Kilos: If you're interested, I redid the sakis3g build [14:43] yo Trixar_za [14:43] And the damn database is STILL broken. Had to merge old and new databases to get it to work [14:43] yip please if you will explain nicely to me how to confige it so it gets mxit and my emails too [14:44] It even had the bug in it I reported 2 months ago :/ [14:44] eish [14:44] broken bu them? [14:44] by [14:44] Yeah [14:44] They simplified the files 2 releases back [14:44] they seem to be doing other things [14:44] Removed the redundancy so to speak [14:44] But enroute they broke something [14:45] They also left some files incomplete [14:45] eish [14:45] wonder why they seem to have got slack [14:45] I found the easiest way was to use the old database from a few releases back that worked [14:45] sakis3g works here [14:45] and merge into it only the changed and new files [14:45] ah [14:45] That seems to fix it [14:46] when you gonna debug nm and modeswitch [14:46] half the world will love you [14:46] Well, I can't debug nm, but I can probably give you the working copy if the current database [14:47] of nm? [14:47] If it works with Sakis3g, it will probably work with the current Ubuntu version of usb_modeswitch [14:47] Which in proxy would make nm work [14:47] oh great [14:48] i have made so mayny conf files and changed so many i dunno where i am anymore [14:48] and 12.04 hasnt broken even [14:48] nm works but the modeswitch does let see modem as modem [14:49] dunno if i must change that product=0000 to 0017 or something [14:50] http://trixarian.net/usb-modeswitch-data-fixed.tar.bz2 [14:50] You'll have to copy it to the right place though [14:50] but lets sort sakis3g first [14:50] ok tell where [14:50] I don't know where that is in Ubuntu :P [14:51] you know sakis [14:51] Oh, I'll upload it :P [14:51] i followed their instructions and wgot the file and it installed via their instructions [14:52] now dunno even where that first how to is [14:53] the important thing is , it must restart on its own if there is some break in connection [14:58] There, it should be fully updated everywhere [14:58] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz [14:59] ok lemme go fetch [14:59] can i wget that link?? [15:00] Trixar_za, ^^ [15:00] wget http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz [15:00] ty sir [15:00] and gunzip sakis3g.gz when you're done [15:01] I only gzipped it because that's 'standard' for the 2 year old version [15:02] So Sakis3g users don't get confused :P [15:05] wow its taking forever [15:05] 25% now [15:05] such a tiny file [15:06] 1.2K/s [15:06] slowest i ever seen [15:09] It's also not fully tested. Only a handful of people have used it :P [15:09] But I'm connected using it now, so I assume it works [15:10] The new file is also about 6kb bigger than the last one [15:10] and still double the size of the old sakis3g :/ [15:11] lol [15:12] still tiny compared to other stuff [15:14] Well, it has 241 devices in the database compared to the old version's 100 or so devices [15:14] :p [15:14] So the database itself is double it's original size [15:14] unzip is extract hey? [15:15] right click extract [15:16] now what do i do with that extracted file [15:17] 469.3 kB hey? [15:17] yeah [15:17] run it [15:17] :P [15:17] ./sakis3g [15:17] whew [15:17] Picking the first option when connecting works [15:18] But it's ncurses based dialog code is a little broken. Luckily it falls back on better stuff in Ubuntu. [15:18] i have it extracted on my desktop , ./sakis3g doesnt work [15:19] sudo cp sakis3g /usr/bin/sakis3g ? [15:19] bello [15:19] then it should run as sakis3g from the terminal [15:19] Maaz, coffee on [15:19] * Maaz puts the kettle on [15:19] with the ? [15:19] without the ? [15:19] :p [15:20] cp: cannot stat `sakis3g': No such file or directory [15:21] Oo [15:21] what? [15:21] cp /home/miles/Desktop/sakis3g /usr/bin/sakis3g ? [15:22] or /home/Desktop [15:22] /home/miles/Desktop/sakis3g probably [15:23] Coffee's ready for queery! [15:24] Maaz, ty [15:24] You are welcome queery [15:34] looks like it went there Trixar_za [15:34] term went back to prompt [15:35] Hmmm [15:36] will it upgrade itself now? [15:36] uh oh whats with the hmmm [15:36] It's not finding the right interface to work with [15:37] isnt going back to prompt when its successful [15:37] echo SGUI="interactive terminal" > sakis3g.conf [15:38] sudo cp sakis3g.conf /etc/sakis3g.conf [15:38] That tells it to use the interactive terminal interface [15:39] There is a command line flag for it, but I doubt you want to keep typing it the whole time [15:39] lots to type? [15:40] do you use sakis in text mode [15:40] i got gui [15:41] Yeah, that's what we're looking for [15:41] And yes, mostly because SliTaz doesn't support the other interfaces [15:41] :P [15:41] oh ya you not on ubuntu [15:42] Press 1 and see if it can get you connected [15:42] i even found one place where they say sakis3g doesnt work on 12.04 but mine is [15:42] It will ask you several questions though, but for me picking the first option worked [15:42] options* [15:43] inna terminal ? [15:43] yeah [15:43] miles@P4:~$ 1 [15:43] 1: command not found [15:43] lol [15:43] Don't you have sakis3g running? Oo [15:43] i must surely open sakis first [15:43] lol, yeah [15:44] lol [15:44] its open on desktop now but 1 in terminal does niks [15:46] It's not showing you a menu like: [15:46] Please select an action [15:46] Choose action for Sakis3G script to follow. [15:46] Available options are: [15:47] maybe i must close the gui and open in text till we got it setup properly then go back gui again? [15:47] ya a little window [15:47] Well click on or press 1. Depending on the interface. [15:48] Should say Connect or something [15:48] :P [15:48] disconnect connection info etc [15:48] disconnect? So you're already connected? [15:48] it musta connected already because only disconnect shows [15:48] Yeah [15:48] i didnt even tell it connect [15:48] it [15:49] oh but modem not plugged in even so maybe it sees my phone is connected [15:50] lol, probably [15:51] It checks for ppp0 [15:54] wb [15:54] ty sakis connected [15:54] now where i see them red blue green lights [15:56] i have that tux emblem on desktop but no connection display lights === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [15:57] It has an option for that [15:57] No that I ever used it [15:59] ok once it is open and working how do i get to add all these options [15:59] they dont show in the gui [16:00] i see generate success report and [16:00] so who is conning to ubuntu hour tomorrow? [16:01] compile embedded usb-modeswitch [16:01] http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_UI#Helper [16:01] queery, have you advertised your uh [16:01] i go look ty [16:01] Needs Zenity though (which comes with GNOME) [16:02] yes [16:02] twice on ubuntu-za mailing list [16:03] i didnt get it once [16:03] are you serious [16:03] it never bounced [16:04] nothing here ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [16:04] it had to have gone through [16:04] het vandag 'n oproep oor dit gekry [16:05] Hi Guys & Gals [16:05] Just a reminder of the Ubuntu Hour on Saturday (11/8/2012) for all the Gauteng Geeks. [16:05] It will be held at the Rosebank Mall Mugg&Bean again, which is right next to the Rosebank Gautrain station. www.gautrain.co.za [16:05] Please come and join us for a coffee and/or a muffin, bring your toys and your kids. There is also 30min free wifi. [16:05] http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/08/03/ubuntu-hour-jhb-11082012 [16:05] Please RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1886/detail/ [16:05] [16:05] I will also try and remember the Official Ubuntu CD's, so that will be the spot to collect if you want any CD's. [16:05] oh that one [16:06] ....' [16:06] i keep thinking you in the cape [16:06] al vi 5 maande nie [16:06] ai [16:06] and nno other person has org a jhb ubuntu hour [16:06] ja ai :( [16:06] ons mis queery in die kaap [16:07] ahhhh [16:07] ek mis die kaap ook [16:09] nou is die vraag, mis jy die kaap of mis jy ons? [16:09] alby natuurlik [16:09] :) [16:10] jhb is lelik... die omgewing bedoel ek [16:10] nie veel vir die oog nie [16:10] maar ek het darm man gevang hier [16:12] zenity is installed here Trixar_za but sakis3g helper --kdialog [16:12] shows nothing [16:13] just a white flashing square [16:15] Don't use --kdialog [16:15] :p [16:15] That's for KDE and is only an example [16:17] eish cant believe it that page opened at the bottom of the page so i didnt see all the other stuff [16:27] bye [16:27] doei :) [16:28] cheers smile [16:28] be good [16:28] thanks Kilos :D [16:28] see ya :) [16:33] Header file usb.h missing from your system. This usually indicates libusb (or libusb-compat) development kit missing. [16:34] thats from compile embedded usb-modeswitch [16:34] what now [16:35] i did sakis3g helper --zenity and a little window opened saying vodacom-za [16:37] Trixar_za, ^^ sorry to bug you so [16:38] how do i activate the extra things [16:38] at least my mails are working so you did something right [16:38] Which extra things? [16:38] them red blue green indicators [16:39] yay mxit working too ty [16:40] Supposably, it should be showing a tux icon that changes colour when you have helper running [16:40] where? [16:41] On your system tray on your panel [16:41] hmmm [16:41] is that the top panel? [16:41] It changes colour based on it's status. It should be green now that you're connected [16:42] this thing on the left is the menu thing i think [16:43] i have the shortcut on desktop and when open tux is in the menu panel as well but no colour change [16:47] Won't really know Kilos. I only use the terminal based part of it to get connected. [16:47] You can just Sakis3g to switch the modem, then let Network Manager take over with Mobile Broadband [16:47] ok ty , they dont give info for amateurs to follow [16:48] It should be under the menu option 2 [16:48] oh i will try that. that would be great ty [16:56] Maaz, coffee on [16:56] * Maaz washes some mugs [17:00] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:00] Maaz, ty [17:00] You are welcome Kilos [17:33] reading through this interesting post by cocooncrash : http://michael.gorven.za.net/blog/2012/08/06/xbmc-packages-raspberry-pi-running-raspbian [17:47] hi Cantide [17:47] hi Kilos [17:47] good evening [17:47] hey charly wassup === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:48] wb Trix[a]r_za [17:48] ty for the help, sakis still connected [17:53] haai nuvolari waar is jy [17:53] superfly, hows the family ? [17:53] evening '-' [17:54] saw a funny battery driven pennt farthing bicycle on the idiot box today [17:54] penny [17:54] Kilos: doing OK thanks === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [17:54] uses cellphone batteries i think. can do 23 kph and 10 ks on a charge [17:55] the guy said only R45000 [17:58] "only" [17:58] you can buy an electric bike in NL for 800 euro i think [17:58] about 8K ZAR [18:00] i almost thought of getting one but being 25 i feel it's a bit stupid for me [18:00] maybe for the older folk [18:00] they are pretty cool though [18:01] lol this is a small think, was kinda cute. i missed the site they advertised [18:01] thing [18:01] Maaz, seen magespawn [18:01] Kilos: magespawn was last seen 1 day, 2 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-08-09 18:00:15 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-08-09 19:36:41 SAST [18:02] oh my. hope a lion didnt get him [18:03] charlvn, 25 is a good age to have a large bike [18:04] or a car inna cold country [18:06] Banlam, bakuman you guys are quiet [18:06] and you Squirm y [18:07] getting cold here again so must be near bedtime [18:08] on the news they forecast 32 for Durban tomorrow [18:08] i hope it's a mistake [18:08] lol [18:08] 32 is lekker [18:08] beach weather [18:08] noooooooooo [18:08] 25 is nice :) [18:09] hahaha [18:09] go visit magespawn in summer [18:09] Kilos: lol it's not really a "large" one, it's just a regular bicycle with an electric motor and a battery :) [18:09] goes around 40°c [18:10] phew you crazy people [18:10] it reminds me of gaborone [18:10] can go up to 50 [18:10] but at least it's low humidity there in the desert [18:10] this one the guy used to get to bus stop then folded it up like a suitcase and carried it one hended [18:10] handed [18:11] that's nice [18:11] i haven't seen that yet [18:14] picture a small penny farthing bike that you kinda sit on the handles [18:14] was very cute [18:16] hmmm doesn't sound too comfortable though [18:16] lol no man had a seat there [18:16] hehe [18:17] still ;) [18:17] im sorry i missed the link [18:22] sjoe, it's nippy [18:22] g'evening oom Kilos [18:22] hallo charlvn [18:23] ha, absa se hoof-skurk is nou op noot-vir-noot [18:23] yeah freezing here too nuvolari . you gonna be 12°c tonight [18:23] hoof-iets, ek kon nie moor ontou wat die iets was nie :P [18:23] we gonne be 0°c [18:24] Kilos: that's not too bad oom, think it was around that temperature last night too [18:24] wanna swop? [18:24] you got 10 days to prepare for next meeting hey nuvolari [18:25] sjoh... the lady on noot-vir-noot is freakin sharp!! [18:25] :O [18:26] lyk my jou tv werk [18:26] she just made R180'000 out of Noot-vir-Noot [18:26] uiteindelik [18:26] (combined) [18:26] sy ken haar musiek ne [18:26] ja oom, my broer het wonderbaarlik die ander 3 kanale gekry :P [18:27] lol [18:29] twisted.internet.error.CannotListenError: [18:29] sigh [18:30] eh? [18:30] you must clean its ears oom Kilos [18:30] ha ha ha [18:30] WARNING core.reloader: Couldn't load feeds plugin because it requires module cannot import name html2text_file [18:31] dom bot [18:36] haai nuvolari [18:36] is jy op 12.04 [18:37] nee oom, dis nou so 08:37 [18:37] na middag [18:37] lol [18:37] :P [18:37] precise man dom donner [18:37] ok presies? 20:38:00 [18:38] 12.04 ja oom :P [18:38] met mobile broadband [18:38] ??? [18:39] ja [18:39] met my 3g kaart? [18:39] hoe het jy die nm gekry om te werk? [18:39] hmm... hy het net gewerk oom [18:39] o nie n usb dongle nie [18:39] ja, die usb dongle [18:39] myne kannie die modem sien nie [18:40] nou hoekom moet ek sukkel [18:40] hmm [18:40] is oom nou op 12.04? [18:40] ek het tot bug report gedoen [18:40] ya [18:40] hoe connect oom nou? [18:41] met sakis3g [18:41] trixie het my gehelp [18:41] nm wys nie enable mobile broadband nie [18:41] hmm, het oom iets in syslog gesien as oom die modem inprop? [18:42] en met my foon in wil dit ook nie auto connect nie [18:42] het oom al die usb ports probeer? [18:42] tail /var/log/syslog? [18:42] jip [18:42] ja orals in gedruk [18:43] ek het al vergeet wat se dit daar [18:44] maar het hy wel iets gewys toe oom hom indruk? [18:44] ek sal more weer kyk en paste uitslag [18:44] ja [18:45] maar modeswitch switch nie [18:45] ek het al baie conf files ge edit [18:45] lol [18:45] ek't altyd net pon/poff gebruik, maar toe werk dit nie meer nie, toe werk nm-applet nog [18:46] pon/poff? [18:46] hi [18:46] jy weet in die applet is daar enable broadband [18:46] Kilos: it starts and stops ppp [18:46] Kilos: cli dialer [18:46] ah [18:47] met foon in wys dit maar met usb ding wys dit nie [18:48] maar ek gaan nie nou worry oor dit nie [18:48] amper slaap tyd [18:50] ons moet net die log check [18:50] ek dink daar is net iets wat ons mis [18:50] ek het nou probber maar dit wys ander goed [18:51] waai ander goed oom? [18:51] wag ek kry dit weer [18:52] Aug 10 20:50:01 P4 CRON[19424]: (root) CMD (if [ -x /usr/bin/gsmsmsrequeue ]; then /usr/bin/gsmsmsrequeue; fi) [18:52] baie rye van dit [18:52] niks anders nie [18:52] hmm. odd [18:52] and lsusb? [18:53] Bus 001 Device 008: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones [18:53] daai 0000 is storage mode [18:54] ek het tot daai in conf verander [18:54] trixie se daar is iets in modeswitch wat verkeerd is [18:55] dit is dalk 'n udev rule wat nie vir daardie modem in 12.04 is nie [18:55] ek kan nie mooi onthou hoe dit werk nie [18:55] ek het tot dit verander [18:56] google al amper 2 weke vir oplossing [18:59] wat sê usb-devices oom? [18:59] Die usb_modeswitch database het foute in dit @ nuvolari [18:59] Al van die begin van die jaar [19:00] i wonder can i remove this modeswitch and install that one [19:01] http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ [19:03] at this age i just noticed that word has same spelling and meaning in eng/afr [19:03] how about this one oom Kilos? Do you have access to a windows system? [19:03] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12095938&postcount=5 [19:04] i have xp on small drive [19:05] hehe i even have a win7 ultimate cd [19:05] that looks good nuvolari ty [19:05] :/ [19:05] what Trixar_za ? [19:05] Sometimes I wonder about you guys [19:05] :P [19:05] toemaar Trixar_za, ek ignoreer jou nie [19:05] Sakis3g might not be fancy, but it works [19:06] you never heard of. know the enemy [19:06] And Betavine is there for the other end :P [19:06] I won't try betavine ever again [19:06] and keep your enemies closer than your friends [19:06] it sucked the rist time [19:06] &first [19:06] *first [19:06] lol [19:06] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz [19:07] The rebuilt copy [19:07] yes Trixar_za but im used to ubuntu just working [19:07] Still the best, even if it's not overly fancy [19:07] * nuvolari doesn't trust it *cough* [19:07] :P [19:07] well it works here today [19:07] It's open source [19:07] I even added 8ta [19:07] :P [19:07] So there [19:07] dit werk goed nuvolari ek het dit by hom gekry [19:08] oh not 8.ta [19:08] nm sees them as 8.ta [19:09] Yeah, I noticed that in Sakis3G too [19:09] So I changed the provider identifier from 8ta to 8.ta [19:10] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-source.tar.gz [19:10] If you want my working source :P [19:10] oops [19:10] forgot the version [19:10] * nuvolari doesn't see any github link [19:10] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-0.2.0e-source.tar.gz [19:11] http://www.trixarian.net/sakis3g-0.2.0e-source.tar.bz2 [19:11] That last one works [19:11] Stupid memory [19:11] :P [19:14] uh oh something happened [19:14] cant open any files on desktop [19:15] night guys sleep tight [19:15] nag oom Kilos [19:15] lekker slaap [19:15] we fight again tomorrow [19:15] jy ook dankie seun === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk]