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extrasolardone it ?00:00
MegasHe's doing00:00
Fudgedd?00:00
extrasolarMegas then follow these instructions carefully http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows00:01
duhamelMegas: I missed the beginning of your problem, but if you have a problem installing distros do a Md5sum check and compare with linux's hashes.00:01
Jordan_UMegas: Have you ever successfully booted from USB on this hardware?00:01
MegasYep a lot of times00:02
Megasduhamel: im trying to boot ubuntu from a live pen on a ChromeOS acer aspire one00:02
harriscan all ubuntu programs run in all linux00:02
extrasolar Draugauth  erm00:02
MegasBut he keep telling to me Missing operating sistem00:02
MegasIt's not the first time that i install ubuntu from live pen so it's strange00:03
extrasolardid you install the graphics drivers for your system00:03
Draugauthextrasolar:  Yep and they are active and working.00:03
harriscan all ubuntu programs run ian any linix00:03
extrasolardrivers from the repos?00:03
Jordan_UMegas: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in.00:03
Draugauthextrasolar:  The restricted drivers yes.00:04
duhamelUnetbootin has syslinix boot and if your distros md5sum is good you can put ity on almost anyhardware through bios boot menu00:04
MegasI can't boot the live pen so i can't use the terminal00:04
Jordan_Uharris: No. Though there are very few applications which are packaged for Ubuntu but not other distributions.00:04
extrasolarMegas is using window00:04
extrasolars00:04
extrasolarMegas have you followed those instructions yet?00:04
alabamahitHey guys got a problem with my 'mouse'. It lags across the screen...and at idea my cpu is at like 7%..(i7 2600k with gigabyte board) so shouldn't be up that high. not sure if they are related or not. best way to describe it is like watching a video on youtube and someone is recording their screen and the mouse seems to lag behind..00:04
MegasYep the live usb is ready00:04
Megasim trying it now00:04
extrasolarDraugauth00:05
harriswhat version of linux is best for a studentt00:05
Jordan_U!best | harris00:05
ubottuharris: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.00:05
extrasolarUbuntu dosn't work any different from laptop to desktop00:05
MegasHoly sh**00:05
extrasolarharris just use ubuntu00:05
MegasStill nothing00:05
MegasI fell like stupid00:05
extrasolarNo no00:05
extrasolarput the usb stick back into the windows machine00:05
Draugauthextrasolar:  Just annoying that it says laptop for the display.  Thanks for the help.00:05
MegasDone00:06
DraugauthAnyone know how to team NICs?00:06
extrasolaropen My Computer00:06
harriscan i make the launcher look like a mac launcher00:06
duhamelharris: if you want to learn linux ubuntu is a good place to start, it gives you very limited root access so you're not as likely to mess things up.00:06
MegasDone00:06
harris can i make the launcher look like a mac launcher00:06
extrasolarhas the usb stick been renamed to 'PEN DRIVE'00:06
extrasolarin caps00:06
MegasYes00:07
extrasolarok go into the folder00:07
Megasok00:07
Jordan_Uharris: Yes, but I would recommend trying out the default launcher for a while to see if you like it before trying to emulate OSX.00:07
duhamelharris: you and make it look like an xbox or anything, really00:07
qualiawhat tool do the web designers use ?00:07
jdannahow do i figure otu what disk devices are connected via firewire on ubuntu?00:08
extrasolaris there linux files etc?00:08
jdannait sees the pci firewire card in dmesg00:08
duhamelqualia: to do what?00:08
MegasYes all folders and files00:08
fishbaithow do i update fglrx i'm trying to get the post-release updates but it won't install them jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/113874200:08
Jordan_Ujdanna: ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/00:08
extrasolarMegas what version of ubuntu is it?00:08
qualiaim only looking for easy usage with HTML CSS and Javascript autocompletion00:08
Megas12.0400:08
qualiabecause im a beginner with web design00:08
qualiabut i generally use vim for coding00:08
jdannaJordan_U: wow now thats quite clever isnt it00:08
extrasolarthis is quite strange.....00:08
extrasolarok00:08
extrasolarto confirm the error you got was00:09
duhameloracle and text editor.00:09
extrasolarmissing operating system?00:09
qualiabut in web design vim will be hard to manage, I don't wanna memorize the CSS elements and stuff00:09
harrisJordan_U,  i have been using ubuntu for a year i dont like it00:09
qualiaso is it better to use an eclipse plugin ?00:09
extrasolardid you follow those instructions bit by bit?00:09
MegasYep he say Missing operating sistem,the ChromeOS start from the HDD00:09
qualiathat has completion for all the web design languages00:09
qualiaor ?00:09
MegasYes00:09
Megasthen*00:09
extrasolarok00:09
extrasolarerm00:09
extrasolarhave you got a CD or DVD laying around?00:09
alabamahitHey guys got a problem with my 'mouse'. It lags across the screen...and at idea my cpu is at like 7%..(i7 2600k with gigabyte board) so shouldn't be up that high. not sure if they are related or not. best way to describe it is like watching a video on youtube and someone is recording their screen and the mouse seems to lag behind..00:10
MegasThe main problem is that the netbook dosent have a cd reader00:10
extrasolarMegas it should work here because I have just tested pen drive linux an ubuntu00:10
duhamelMegas: do you have access to a windows computer?00:10
extrasolarthere is something you're not doing00:11
extrasolarshe is on windows00:11
extrasolarhe00:11
extrasolarshe/he00:11
FloodBot1extrasolar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:11
Megasshe XD00:11
MegasIs not the first time that i do that thing00:11
MegasIm actually sure that everything is fine00:11
Jordan_UMegas: Can you get to a terminal from within ChromeOS?00:11
MegasYes00:11
L3topalabamahit: what is the gpu? lspci -nn | grep VGA00:11
duhameleff that.00:11
harrisJordan_U,  how do i mac it look like mac00:11
MegasIs linux built so he have the linux terminal00:12
MegasIs seem like a MBR problem00:12
duhamelMegas: it is an mbr problem00:12
duhamelalmost positive.00:12
duhameliv'e had this before00:13
extrasolarright00:13
extrasolarouch!00:13
extrasolarI had one too00:13
Megasim on some kind of terminal i used ''sudo su'' to gain administrator command00:13
fishbaithow do i update fglrx i'm trying to get the post-release updates but it won't install them my /var/log/jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/113874200:13
duhamelubuntu.00:13
DraugauthAnyone know how to team NICs?00:13
extrasolarlol fishbait00:14
MegasI suppose it's linux like00:14
duhamelso change directory to wherever the linux isop is.00:14
duhameliso00:14
MegasMaybe i can install it from the terminal00:14
MegasBut i dont have idea on how to do it00:14
Megas<300:14
alabamahitL3top: Thanks for responding. Sorry it took so long, it is very hard to do anything with the mouse. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138750/ <--result00:15
Jordan_UMegas: Do you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?00:15
fishbaitwell when i try by clicking activate it downloads it then fails at installation00:15
MegasOn the pendrive there is loopback.cfg00:15
MegasIn the boot folder00:15
extrasolarhave you tried the package manger00:16
Jordan_UMegas: What is the output of "ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in the ChromeOS terminal?00:16
L3topalabamahit: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver00:16
duhamelMegas: let's start from the begining.00:16
soliloquyHi. The last time I used Gnome it was 2.0; there were metacity themes and GTK themes. Now, there's GTK 2 themes, and GTK 3 themes (which I understand) and Mutter themes (which I also understand) - my question is, what's the difference between those and a Gnome 3x shell theme?00:16
fishbaitno will try then00:16
L3topalabamahit: then reboot00:16
harrishow do you make the laucher in ubuntu look like mac launcher00:16
Megasno such file or directory00:16
extrasolarharris00:16
extrasolartry xubuntu00:17
alabamahitL3top: Rebooting now. Will be back.00:17
SJrI have a list of packages that I installed from a PPA source, and now I want to get rid of them and go back to the older source. How do I get rid of them. They are pretty key so I can't just remove them.00:17
harriswhat is xubuntu00:17
alabamahitThanks again.00:17
Jordan_UMegas: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?00:17
extrasolaror try this harris on ubuntu00:17
extrasolarhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/132521/how-can-i-make-my-ubuntu-12-04-look-like-a-mac00:17
harriswhat is xubuntu00:17
Megasthe same as before00:17
MegasNo such file or directory00:18
extrasolarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu00:18
Jordan_Uharris: Try installing avant-window-navigator.00:18
fishbaiti googled it found the soloution lol00:19
extrasolarwhat was the solution?00:19
extrasolarlink00:19
Jordan_UMegas: Did you mean "command not found"?00:19
Megasnope00:19
Jordan_UMegas: Please pastebin the exact command you're running, and the output.00:19
MegasBash ''the command'' no such file or directory00:19
harrisi need imovie for a class can ubuntu run imovie00:20
Jordan_Uharris: No.00:20
extrasolarno00:20
harrisi need it00:20
alabamahitL3top: It does seem little better....But it is still jerky/laggy00:21
Megashttp://pastebin.com/zBG1PYd600:21
extrasolarYou seem to want to use a mac00:21
extrasolaruse a mac00:21
harrisdont have the money00:21
Jordan_Uharris: If you need iMovie specifically, you need a mac. We can't change that.00:21
extrasolarthere's other movie editors for linux00:21
fishbaitlong link http://paste.ubuntu.com/113875600:21
L3tophmmm alabamahit... I was really hoping that solved it. let me look around a bit. I am assuming you are using Unity 3d correct?00:22
harrisis there a program that can do every imovie can00:22
extrasolaroh cheers00:22
Jordan_Uharris: There are video editors available for Ubuntu. And I doubt that your teacher specifically requires iMovie.00:22
Megasharris: then install chromeOS so you can trow your pc on the toilet <300:22
extrasolaryou can post links yano00:22
MegasJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/zBG1PYd6 this is the command and the output00:22
harriscan you run imovie in chromeos00:22
extrasolarno00:22
alabamahitL3top: It's doing it on all enviroments.00:22
Jordan_Uharris: Among other things, that would cause problems for the majority of students, who are probably running Windows (which can't run iMovie either).00:22
Megaslol00:22
L3topalabamahit: sudo update-pciids; lspci -nn | grep VGA00:23
L3topalabamahit: as it is only one line, you can paste it in here.00:23
harrisis there a program that can run all that imovie can00:23
MegasOh god google stole my netbook T_T00:23
extrasolarnot really00:24
extrasolarbut there are alternatives00:24
alabamahitL3top:  Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2012-07-11 03:15:01 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0122] (rev 09)00:24
Jordan_UMegas: "grub-install" not "grub/install".00:24
harriswhat is the best alternative00:24
Megasfu-00:24
extrasolarharris define best00:25
alabamahitL3top: It is the onchip graphics of the 2600k. hd3000 i think. using dvi and hdmi port if that matters?.00:25
L3topalabamahit: Ok... so it is a sandy bridge. What version ubuntu are you on?00:25
MegasI have another news extrasolar Jordan_U the live pen dosent work on windows either00:25
Megaslol00:25
alabamahitL3top: 12.0400:25
* L3top has real problems with that chipset on 1004, but would expect 1204 would be good to go alabamahit.00:25
harrisclosest to imovie00:25
extrasolarharris dear00:26
bazhangharris try openshot00:26
MegasJordan_U: this time he say command not found00:26
MegasWhy my netbook got to be a nice ball00:27
extrasolarMegas well pen drive linux does work as I have just tested it00:27
MegasBut im sure i made everything perfect!00:27
W4spharris: iMovie, the movie editing tool by Apple Inc. runs on some versions of Mac OS X.00:27
MegasMaybe the checksum is not correct?00:27
extrasolarperhaps00:27
extrasolarbut00:27
extrasolarpeb drive linux has it's own installation imag00:28
alabamahitL3top: it is x64 also.00:28
extrasolarthat should appear first00:28
extrasolarto at least let you know something is on the pen drive00:28
Megas:(00:29
MegasSo there is no way to repair my netbook? i got to keep chromeOS on it?00:29
extrasolarthere is a way00:29
Megasi prefer to use it like a miniskirt00:29
extrasolaryou haven' found it yet00:29
MegasThe only thing that come in my mind00:30
harriscan openshot do all of the transitions00:30
MegasIs that i installed only the old version of ubuntu00:30
MegasI never installed the 12.0400:30
Megas>.>00:30
Megasthis time is the first00:30
bazhangharris, install it and try00:31
Jordan_UMegas: ChmomeOS must at least have dd, we can try dding Super GRUB2 Disk to your USB drive (it uses grub rather than syslinux, which might make the difference, though it sounds like you used syslinux before successfully).00:31
Megasit sound like a good chance00:32
MegasJust,how LOL00:32
extrasolaralright bed time00:33
extrasolarnight all00:33
Megasgood night extrasolar00:33
Megaswish me luck lol00:33
Jordan_UMegas: Download http://forja.cenatic.es/frs/download.php/1456/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1-beta1.iso then pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in and I'll tell you what dd command to use.00:34
Megasgotcha00:34
Megasthe pendrive must have ubuntu 12.04 installed on it?00:34
Megasor only the super_grub2_disk?00:34
Jordan_UMegas: No. We're going to completely whipe the USB drive, so it should have nothing that you care about on it.00:35
Megasperfect00:35
harrisis linux mint like vista00:35
MegasJordan_U: what program i use to make the livepen with this?00:36
bazhangharris, thats offtopic here00:36
L3tophow much ram do you have alabamahit?00:36
harriswhere is the linux mint channel00:36
alabamahitL3top: 16GB00:36
bazhang!mintsupport | harris00:36
ubottuharris: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:36
brophatmy question regards that functionality where when I am moving a window around the desktop and I release the mouse button when the cursor is near the boundary of my monitor screen then the window that I was moving will open full screen.00:37
alabamahitL3top: Complete spec. i7 2600k. Gigabyte Z68 board. 120gb SSD, 16gb ram, 2TB hdd for storage..Using the video from i7. (hd3000) i hink.00:38
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p014kSo 11.04 has ubuntu classic as an option. 11.10 doesn't (correct?). I want to upgrade to 12.04, but I don't want to use unity. Is there a guide somewhere on how to get 'ubuntu classic' in 12.04?00:38
Daekdroom11.10 does have Classic as an option.00:38
blackshirtis there special config to use phpldapadmin with TLS?00:38
bazhang!notunity | p014k00:38
ubottup014k: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:38
MegasJordan_U:00:38
Megasguess what00:38
Megasstill the same ERROR.00:38
MegasMissing operating sistem00:39
MegasI dont know how this is possible00:39
bazhangMegas, dont hit the enter key so often. keep it on ONE line00:39
brophatanyone know that functionality I am referring to?00:39
Megasbazhang: sorry.00:39
p014kInteresting. So then just by doing a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool gnome-panel' i can get classic back?00:40
blackshirtbrophat, what's your problem?00:40
bazhangp014k, somewhat close to classic00:40
Jordan_UMegas: We haven't done anything yet, you were going to give me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" so that I could tell you the right dd command to run..00:40
brophatblackshirt I would like to have it stop doing that.00:40
p014kcool, thx00:40
L3topalabamahit: I will have to do some looking around... with those stats, that chipset, and the accelleration I had you install, I would expect flawless response. I wouldn't have expected any issues outside of h264 playback frankly. I will have to do some research, but it is in my best interest... so stick around for a while if you can.00:40
MegasJordan_U: he dosent boot,neither this super_grub2disk give me the same error00:40
Megaswhen i try to boot the pendrive he say to me missing operating sistem,like the livepen of linux00:41
blackshirtsory brophat, i just join here for a minute00:41
Jordan_UMegas: How did you try to put SG2D on the USB drive?00:41
MegasWith linux live usb creator00:42
MegasLike always00:42
W4spbazhang: PMFJI. Will it create a new entry in the list of lightdm and what is it called? It's not GNOME Classic, is it?00:42
L3topalabamahit: does top reveal any unusual CPU hit?00:42
alabamahitL3top: I will. And thank you very much for helping me out. I have googled like crazy and nothing turned up......little more info...i have tried kubuntu and ubuntu both. mint. all of them where same result in the lagg/jerky mouse00:42
alabamahitL3top: not sure what you mean by top reveal. But I know that i'm idling at 6-7%..and that is kinda high for this rig.00:43
L3topalabamahit: type "top" in a terminal, without quotes00:44
pourtechwhat is the command to install skype?00:44
Jordan_UMegas: Because I gave you specific instructions, which you did not follow, and I was going to give you more instructions after seeing the output of "sudo fdisk -l">00:44
W4sp!pm | harris00:44
ubottuharris: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.00:44
MegasJordan_U: i followed your instruction i putted supergrub2disk on the usb pendrive00:44
Megasand tryed to boot it00:45
Jordan_UMegas: No, those weren't my instructions.00:45
bazhangpourtech, its in partner. enable partner repo and install from there00:45
xangua!partner| pourtech: enable the partner repo first and after that: sudo apt-get install skype00:45
ubottupourtech: enable the partner repo first and after that: sudo apt-get install skype: Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »00:45
MegasJordan_U: Sorry,maybe i dident understand well,can you repeat it for me? sorry again00:45
Jordan_UMegas: Download http://forja.cenatic.es/frs/download.php/1456/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1-beta1.iso then pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in and I'll tell you what dd command to use.00:45
Megasok00:46
alabamahitL3top: what from that would you be wondering.? log going there.00:46
nestor_help me for install ubuntu12.04 in import document and settig, help me plase00:46
MagicalMuffinnestor_00:47
Jordan_UMegas: You'll need to download the iso to some place other than the USB drive we're going to write it to (using dd, which I will tell you how to do).00:47
payman_hi00:47
L3topalabamahit: I am just curious if bug 997370 is related00:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 997370 in gstreamer-vaapi (Ubuntu) "high cpu usage" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99737000:47
MegasOk it's a long output now i will pastebin it00:48
alabamahitL3top:  Cpu(s):  0.2%us,  6.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 93.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st <--Only really odd (i think)00:48
nestor_:(00:49
^John^Hello. :)00:51
Jordan_UMegas: In about 10 minutes I'm going to have to leave. I'll still be able to help you, but I might take a while to respond and won't type very much (since phone keyboards are slow and annoying :).00:52
blackshirtHello john00:52
MegasJordan_U a moment and i will link it to you00:52
MegasJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/nzRbkdk400:54
excervohello, can som1 help me how t use mutt?00:56
brophatnobody knows how to stop windows from auto maximizing when you are moving them around the desktop?00:57
Jordan_UMegas: You're using GPT on your flash drive, that's an odd choice and may be what has been causing you problems.00:57
MegasI don't even know wtf is it XD00:57
MegasDont forget im a woman,a geek,but always a woman lol00:57
Tversted100:58
Jordan_UMegas: You clearly retyped that output. Is there a reason you can't use pastebin normally from ChromeOS?00:58
L3topalabamahit: PM00:59
MegasYep because the terminal dosent let me Copy and paste00:59
MegasxD00:59
Jordan_UMegas: Does it let you select text at all?00:59
john515how can someone completelly delete a messed up account?00:59
btcbuy314does anyone with a ti graphing calculator (ti83+) know if the calculator will turn on without the circular back up battery? could anyone check for me if they have one00:59
MegasNo,there is no mouse or anything to select00:59
Jordan_U!ot | btcbuy31401:00
ubottubtcbuy314: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:00
^John^Totally off-topic.01:00
btcbuy314i know this is ubuntu but theres not really a good channel for ti calculator help, and i figured a lot of people here probably have ti calculators01:00
btcbuy314and this channel is more helpful than most channels01:01
^John^:D01:01
^John^Hopefully more helpful than #slackware assholes...01:01
Jordan_U!language | ^John^01:01
ubottu^John^: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:01
^John^Professional.01:02
^John^?01:02
^John^:D01:02
john515does anyone have any experience with the mail-stack-delivery package?01:02
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^John^But those two former words... Naah.01:02
btcbuy314my calculator keeps turning off as soon as you turn it on and it has no back up calculator, i want to know if the back up battery will fix before i run out and buy one01:02
^John^Tired Old Man!01:02
^John^Like we all.01:03
Karlos_Kaponinew in linux, any tips?01:03
btcbuy314Karlos_Kaponi: download arch linux if you wnat to learn01:03
MegasJordan_U: So,actually there is no way to get my netbook to ubuntu?01:03
Karlos_Kaponithanks01:03
btcbuy314put it on an old computer to play around with01:03
^John^Of course there is.01:04
^John^I'm just personally disappointed now... I've used Slackware and everything f***s up nowadays...01:04
john515can someone help me with some dovecot related issues?01:05
btcbuy314that tip goes to anybody on ubuntu, when i switched from ubuntu to arch linux i learned SOOO much more about linux than i did using ubuntu within a week01:05
^John^Oh yeah?01:05
^John^I learned from Slackware too.01:05
xangua^John^: drop that language and stick on the channel topic please01:06
^John^Channel topic?01:06
W4spjohn515: the CLI for it would be userdel. Most use a GUI in settings/user accounts to remove an existing user.01:06
john515I have done so01:06
^John^I'm a freelancer, not some ass licker for one distro...01:06
btcbuy314slackware, gentoo, arch    all of the do it yourself linuxs will basically force you to learn linux01:06
john515however I'm facing a bizzare error01:06
ashkaI guess it means you're on #ubuntu channel, a channel related to ubuntu01:07
john515when I delete and recreate an account01:07
^John^DIY.01:07
btcbuy314arch is pretty simple though i think it would be easier for someone that doesnt have any linux knowledge to use arch01:07
john515I still get IMAP error on two specific accounts01:07
john515if I ask the users to make another account it functions properly01:07
john515I'm not sure how to unstuck the account from dovecot01:07
caixajust get ubuntu mini remix, same as arch except much easier to install01:08
john515it sure might delete it from the system, but not remove every trace of it01:08
W4spexcervo: You would need to be a bit more specific.01:08
bazhangbtcbuy314, got an actual support question?01:08
btcbuy314another tip that i feel is one of the best things i ever did, is download a tiling window manager, such as awesome,  you will never go back to a floating windows like gnome and windows01:09
MegasJordan_U: still there?01:09
john515W4sp any suggestions?01:09
bazhangbtcbuy314, take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here01:09
* W4sp .oO how right btcbuy314 is...01:10
^John^Hostile...01:10
btcbuy314not as many people are in ubuntu offtopic and i want people to know this01:10
john515guess nobody can help me with dovecot :/01:11
L3topThis is an ubuntu support channel. What you want is not particularly relevant. This is not a place for you to vent your feelings and beliefs.01:11
W4spjohn515: When you ask how to remove accounts in this channel noone would assume you have issues surrounding dovecot.01:15
john515I know01:15
john515it's a bizzare issue01:15
W4spjohn515: How to you store account information for the users?01:16
john515I don't know how to explain it01:16
john515let me elaborate01:16
siemasiema01:16
MegasIs possible to convert a gpt to gnu?01:16
john515I've set up the mailserver with the mail-stack-delivery package01:16
bazhang!pl | siema01:16
ubottusiema: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.01:16
john515prior to that, I tried to make it manually with postfix-dovecot01:16
john515so far so good01:16
john515I made a script with php and .sh01:17
john515to register users01:17
bazhang!enter | john51501:17
ubottujohn515: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:17
john515directly to the system with /bin/false01:17
MegasJordan_U: still there?01:18
john515however I forgot to include in my php to convert them to lowercase, so when a user made an account with uppercase letter, roundcube couldn't send (because it sends to lowercase emails by default)01:18
W4spjohn515: Sorry to interrupt you. There is good information surrounding the dovecot and tools are available.01:18
john515when I figured that01:18
MegasUff..my netbook will never see ubuntu again01:18
MegasIm stuck in chromeOS01:18
john515I tried to switch those two accounts by renaming the userdir01:18
MegasI will use it like a miniskirt01:18
Megas._.01:18
john515(obviously a bad idea)01:18
john515ever since then, no matter how many times I recreate those two specific accounts, I always get an IMAP connection error01:19
john515what I'm asking is how to remove every trace of those two accounts, if possible01:19
randomDude1need more enter keys01:19
john515I've already ran through the dovecot documentation, I just screwed something up :/01:20
randomDude1john515: gui or command line method?01:20
john515everything through putty01:20
randomDude1john515: help with dovecot is a ubuntu-server question.01:20
W4spjohn515: If you create your own scripts to pass the information from your PHP to shell scripts you need to know where you store the information.01:20
john515W4sp: it's done via useradd01:21
john515users have /maildir01:21
W4spjohn515: john515 In that case deluser should be sufficient. You may need to enfoce to remove the maildir or do it by hand. Do you have SQL to store the user info?01:22
john515I'm two days in trying to figure the solutions for those problems, irc was my last resort01:22
john515nope01:22
john515when I remove users I do userdel and I remove their directory from /home, normally01:23
john515and that works01:23
john515but for some odd reason, two specific usernames just don't want to login (IMAP Connection error)01:23
john515T_T01:23
john515I've deleted them again and again, no access01:23
john515*sigh*01:24
dank8465hey all, I'm having a fun issue, I'm not sure if it's hardware or software related... basically, after some amount of time, my computer will become unresponsive. I would then drop (myself) into a tty to see what happened, and upon logging in to the tty, my screen would flood with I/O errors regarding /dev/sda (my main hard drive, if that isn't painfully obvious) I've ran disk utility, and it seems that my HD is functioning normally.01:24
dank8465I will produce logs relevant logs momentarily...01:24
W4spjohn515: What I meant was the odd /var/spool/mail and such.01:24
john515hm01:25
john515now that I think of it01:25
john515another bit of info01:25
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DanSHey all01:25
L3top!enter | john51501:25
ubottujohn515: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:25
Kevin`how do you tell ubuntu on arm/omap to rebuild the u-boot configuration and such?01:25
SkazzyHi everybody01:25
L3topdank8465: sounds like your drive is dying or you have a dodgy cable.01:26
john515upon checking my /var/log/mail.log , ever since my php script had the lowercase conversion for the usernames. in the mail, all the logins were somehow attempted with the first letter in upper case01:26
john515knowing unix, the logins are case sensitive, right?01:26
W4spjohn515: It you don't use SQL, do you store the user inof in /etc/passwd? There are other methods as well. Also, see01:26
john515yes /etc/passwd01:26
dank8465L3top: I hope not, i've got work to do! gimme another minute... trying to find the right chunk of dmesg01:27
Kevin`alternately, how do I list the triggers that are run when installing a kernel?01:27
L3topjohn515: logins should really all be lower case01:27
W4spYes, john51501:27
Kevin`or anything that would let me find what the command is called01:27
DSSAI have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,01:27
DSSAbut not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?01:27
zykotick9L3top: i "believe" they have to be lower case actually...01:27
dank8465L3top: also, wouldn't I be unable to boot under those circumstances, I'm running fine on the setup right now, but ittle go nuts in a few minutes...01:27
john515why does it try to login with John instead of john, for example, then?01:28
L3topzykotick9: that was a better way to state it. I could certainly be wrong, but that was my understanding.01:28
W4spjohn515: If you find them in /var/spool/mail with upper case i would assume their other dirs are the same.01:28
DSSAI've tried searching for a solution via google, but all of the results are for reading crashed windows drives with Ubuntu, not the other way around.01:28
L3topdank8465: not in a great number of circumstances... for instance an issue exasserbated by heat...01:29
DSSAI seem to remember years ago running an older version of Ubuntu that crashed, I was able to read the drive with the windows computer and just transfer the files that I wanted to keep.01:29
W4spjohn515: Not sure if I get this one right. If you have user 'John' in /etc/passwd but you try to authorize as john it will fail.01:29
DSSAAny help would be appreciated.01:29
john515 W4sp: /var/spool/mail is empty01:29
DanSHey all, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I've got a POS till here which I'm trying to write my own stuff for.  I tried to install Ubuntu on it in a few ways yesterday to no avail. I tried Linux Mint too which was a little more successful, but it still didn't really come close to installing with it being far too intensive for the machine.  Is there a way of checking which flavour of linux they were using while its running?01:29
L3topdank8465: Really need to do diagnostics on the drive... but before doing ANYTHING I would backup anything precious to me.01:30
DanSIt does come up with knoppix 2.78 in the boot sequence.. but I'm not sure if it's a modded version of that or what...01:30
W4spjohn515: Do you have /var/vmail/... ?01:30
dank8465L3top: yeah, i'm all backed up01:31
john515W4sp: also, those two notorious usernames, when freshly register - they are all lowercase, but when my user tries to login with roundcube - mail.log says he tries to log with first letter uppercase01:31
john515W4sp: no such directory01:31
SmileyChrisInteresting, my close / minimize / etc buttons have shifted to the right without any input on my part... how do I put them back on the left?01:31
btcbuy314yep sorry for being offtopic, nobody was answering me in #calculus    and i figured somebody here probably has one01:31
W4spjohn515: Does your /etc/passwd contain the login id in lower cae but their home dir in Upper?01:32
SmileyChrisI tried switching themes then back again, no change (and no change on restart)01:32
john515W4sp: both lowercase, completelly01:32
dank8465@L3top: can you recommend any diagnostics to run, I can't seem to find the log...01:32
ZeroHello everyone.01:33
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dank8465L3top: errors come somewhere to the effect of: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector XXXXXX01:33
W4spjohn515: Did you get the info from faillog?01:33
john515W4sp: any clue where I can locate it?01:33
dank8465L3top: which I know seems to be a bad sector01:33
qmris there any way to make laptop speakers louder?01:33
W4spjohn515:  /var/log ?01:34
john515it's filled with "@"01:35
qmrnm, found an override01:35
W4spjohn515: john515 use faillog -a to get an idea.01:35
john515I see a bunch of usernames, zero failures everywhere, and some dates01:36
W4spjohn515: describe 'a bunch'. YOu said you have to specific users. Are theose among them?01:36
john515one of them is01:37
dank8465L3top: can you recommend any diagnostics to run, I can't seem to find the log...01:37
john515the other one is currently deleted, I'm planning to have the other user re-register once I fix the issue with the other one01:37
MCl0vinwhen i boot i get this http://imagebin.org/22399701:37
W4spjohn515: Now I am curious. How have you been able to remove one but not the other? Has one of them been created prior changes in your .sh?01:39
SmileyChrisanyway, solved it with some basic google and gconf-editor. No idea how it happened though :/01:39
john515W4sp: you haven't got me right :P01:39
DSSA I have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,01:40
DSSAbut not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?01:40
john515W4sp: both of these usernames face the same error, regardless if I useradd or userdel them - but currently I'm trying to fix the first username, and then apply the solution to the second one as well01:40
W4spjohn515: OK, understand.01:41
MCl0vinwhen i boot i get this http://imagebin.org/22399701:41
john515Therefore I won't useradd the second username as of yet01:41
john515W4sp: might it be possible that dovecot has some sort of cache that I have to remove? Or maybe some entries I saw in the shadow file01:42
john515I tried messing with them, with no positive result, however01:43
W4spjohn515: On a second thought. The home directories are not neccessary the directories userdel removes. Thois depends on dovecot's configuration. All of this userdel/deluser does not know about it.01:43
john515W4sp: this is true, even userdel doesn't remove the homedir, I do it by hand with rm -r01:44
newbchessplayer_is there a way to make ubuntu turn the system volume up to the max at a specified time? my purpose is to make an alarm clock that will work no matter what my friend does to my pc01:44
john515W4sp: however dovecot will check if a case sensitive homedir exists, to deliver the mail01:44
joejackmade some changes to comwiz and how all I have is my desktop picture and the cursor but no mouse clicks01:45
john515What I am not sure of, is why it insists trying to log with those old usernames, instead of the new ones01:45
john515I also might've done a stupidity, because at first I tried to rename the homedir and usermod the name to lowercase - so I might whacked it up01:46
joejackanyone want to help me get out of this dilema?01:46
W4spjohn515: How to the user quthorize? Just PLAIN or is there further encryption involved? Not referring to SSL as I don't think that would have anything to do with it. But things like MD5 would.01:46
john515plain01:47
john515log says plain, afaik01:47
W4spjohn515: We can rule out any flaws with hash.01:47
bonhoefferdoesn't make install put the binaries in the right directory?01:47
john515dunno if this can give you a cue, but I could log with his username/pass, but he would still get an IMAP error, on that specific username01:48
john515how is that possible?01:48
john515-just tested that now-01:48
joejackI set the top;edge setting and left edge and right edge all to zero, and now all I am left with is the cursor, and my destop picture and mouse clicks do nothing01:48
W4spjohn515: Sorry, are you saying that you can login but you cannot authorize during the IMAP process?01:49
john515I can authorize locally but not remotelly01:49
W4spjohn515: That's great. Where do they land up as I wonder what /etc/passwd has as a home dir and what dovecot's configuration for their IMAP folder has?01:50
john515eg from my home network, that username might be able to login into the webmail - but when my user tries from across town, he'll get an imap error01:50
joejackanyone want to help. I used the setting tool with the wrench symbol to set grid for left right and top edge to zero. Now al I have is the desktop backdrop picture and the mouse pointer01:50
john515The passwd entry -> USER:x:1004:100::/home/USER:/bin/false01:51
john515(I blanked it out, it's in lowercase)01:51
john515mail_location = maildir:/home/%u/Maildir01:52
W4spjohn515: Did you read through this one.. http://master.wiki2.dovecot.org/Debugging/Authentication?01:53
joejackcan anyone healp01:54
john515W4sp: you mean on how I can crypt passwords?01:54
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john515I'm a bit lost here01:54
joejacknobody can help?01:55
MCl0vinhttp://imagebin.org/224007 can someone please help me01:56
W4spjohn515: It could be used to check authentication errors.01:56
john515lemme check01:58
joejackunity broke after changing some compiz settings. can someone help me get out of this?01:58
W4spjohn515: Anyway, I need to pause on this one. There seems to be no IRC for dovecot. :-(01:58
john515: /02:00
john515recent mail still shows the user trying to log as User and not user02:01
john515mail.log*02:01
john515I honestly have no idea either, but thanks for sticking with me ;)02:01
W4spjohn515: I also have another idea, slightly slippy though. You said that 'locally' they can authorize, from accross town they can't. Do you know their passwords? Do they move arround with theyr own laptops or do they use web based services with differnt systems?02:02
john515well, the basic idea is done through website02:03
john515aka the mail is primarilly transfered through roundcube02:03
john515about the password, I userdel-ed the account, and we set it up with a dummy password with troubleshooting02:04
john515I could login to that username from my laptop at home, but the other user could not, from his pc from across town02:04
W4spjohn515: roundcube is nothing I can help, I'm afraid. If they connect through LAN do they use roundcube as well? Also, is it locally SSL'ed?02:05
john515I assume everything on lan can access those two accounts02:06
john515shall I try to tether my android and see if I can do it with a remote connection?02:06
john515when I log in, it's user - when he logs in, it's User.. lmao02:07
john515purging dovecot didn't help either, btw02:08
l3dwas wondering how I would go about cleaning the grub menu list?02:08
W4spjohn515: I can't tell then, I also think we can rule out any cache issues as it is SSL, isn't it? You didnt' anser that one. Did you also try telnet?02:09
newbchessplayer_what command turns ubuntu volume to the MAX02:09
john515telnet?02:09
john515hmm02:09
john515what can I do , elaborate please :P02:10
john515regarding SSL , dovecot.conf contains some SSL lines, I think mail-stack-delivery implements SSL for postfix too02:11
john515I do remember that I had to input information for certificates02:11
W4sptelnet dovecotbox 110 then you will see how the system responds.02:11
john515+OK dovecot ready02:12
brophatok I made some changes to compiz, now ubuntu is crashed but ubuntu 2D works02:13
W4spjohn515: I need to go. Re telnet just authorize yourself as it is PLAIN. That should work. Then see what the log file says. It it is lowe case if may even be roundcube passing wrong info? Likely thoguh it is dovecot.02:14
brophatanyone want to help me get ubuntu back? and what is the diff between ubuntu 2D and just ubuntu02:14
john515W4sp: he tried to login and I grabbed the debug, can I pm you with it before you go?02:14
DebolazWbrophat: Ubuntu2D doesn't use compiz.02:14
OerHeksnewbchessplayer_, "amixer -c 0 sset Master,100 %"02:14
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brophatDebolazW should I just keep using Ubuntu2D, ?02:14
brophatDebolazW how to I get ubuntu back02:15
DebolazWbrophat: There's nothing wrong with using Unity2D if it works, but how to fix compiz depends on what exactly you did with compiz.02:15
W4spjohn515: I would not feel comfortable with it as it may contain sensitive information.02:15
newbchessplayer_OerHeks, thanks very much! though, are you sure that doesn't have at least a few typos?02:15
brophatDebolazW I set top edge left edge and right edge to 0 in the grid setting02:15
john515I will sensor it ofc :P02:16
john515it's dummy info btw02:16
DebolazWbrophat: In ccsm?02:16
wilee-nileebrophat no biggie easy fix to set stock. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html02:17
Derpianhey guys any idea how to create a large file for upload testing02:17
Derpianabout 163 mb02:17
pooltablehelp how do i block anything do with south park thanks ?02:17
brophatDebolazW in cofiguration editor02:17
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DebolazWbrophat: Which configuration editor?02:17
brophatcan i got into it while in ubuntu2D and reset it?02:17
OerHeksnewbchessplayer_, amixer -c 0 set Master playback 100% unmute ( see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/amixer.1.html )02:18
brophatDebolazw taht is the name of it configuration edititor. its icon is the screw driver and the wrench02:18
wilee-nileebrophat, set it stock and find one of the hundred blogs on setting up compiz, it is easy you just need to do it right and have a restsrt schema for compiz.02:19
pibarnasDebolazW:02:20
brophatwilee-nilee I have nothing when I am in ubuntu can I do that reset thing while in ubuntu2D?02:20
DebolazWbrophat: This solution should still apply then: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71926/resetting-compizconfig-settings-manager-settings02:20
DebolazWScroll down till you find "Reset Compiz"02:20
wilee-nileebrophat I believe so.02:21
brophatok will give it a whirl. geeeeeeeeez I break the machine just by trying to set some eye candy02:21
DebolazWbrophat: You really shouldn't be using that tool unless you know exactly what you are doing.02:22
DebolazWbrophat: Whoever recommended its use should be smacked in the head.02:22
brophatDebolazW I believe so02:22
brophatDebolazW but it has such a pretty icon looks like it would be user friendly02:22
wilee-nileebrophat, I assume you did a restart and checked if the 3d desktop was still broken, compiz does not always reneder changes well and needs a restart, I use the compiz fusion icon as a button to do a restart.02:22
DebolazWbrophat: If you want to customize Unity in the future, install MyUnity and use that tool. It's a lot safer.02:23
wilee-nileerender*02:23
brophatDebolazW I am writing that down will do02:23
wilee-nileecompiz can be tweaked if done with some knowledge of how it works and looking at the info on the web on setting it up custom, you just need a restart buton, and then save the script of the setup when done, for future quick installs of those settings. I have the same script since natty or so.02:27
DSSA I have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,02:28
DSSAbut not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?02:28
DebolazWwilee-nilee: "some knowledge" being the important words there. :)02:29
Spazioguys can anyone please recommend a file manager similar to xyplorer on windows or anyway that shows folder sizes? thanks :)02:29
wilee-nileeDSSA, windows wont read the filesystem, do you have a actual read of it, using a install of a driver to read it?02:30
Weird98GuY(if possible) how do i set the close/minimize/maximize buttons to be on  the right side of the windows?02:30
wilee-nileeDebolaz, yeah, it takes a bit to figure it out.02:31
DebolazWwilee-nilee: And the process will most likely involve wrecking your desktop a few times.02:31
DebolazWThe only reason I even touch any compiz settings is to make my windows automaximize.02:31
DSSAwilee-nilee, I don't have anything other than another windows computer right now.  If I re-install it back in the Ubuntu box and run the LiveCD, would that allow me read the existing files?02:31
brophatwilee-nilee it seems to have worked but it is still doing stuff and I am getting a lot of warnings and errors in the terminal02:32
DSSAThe files I'm looking to get back off of it are windows files that I was using the Ubuntu box to file serve02:32
wilee-nileeDebolaz, great thing is there are a ton of links on the web for help.02:32
wilee-nileeDSSA, Yes, if it is readable that is the best way.02:32
Weird98GuY(if possible) how do i set the close/minimize/maximize buttons to be on  the right side of the windows?02:32
DSSAwilee-nilee, I'll give that a shot--downloading the LiveCD now.  Thank you for your input, sir!02:33
wilee-nileeDSSA, Any live linux disc will read it basically generaly.02:33
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brophatwilee-nilee think I should just control C it?02:33
wilee-nileebrophat, not sure what that does.02:33
Weird98GuYanyone?02:33
brophatwell I did that reset command and it is now stuck doing stuff that just fails02:34
brophatcntrl C i think stops the programs that are runnning02:34
wilee-nileeWeird98GuY, I use ubuntu tweak but I think dconf-editor might do it.02:34
wilee-nileebrophat, you need compiz to run to get unity it is a plugin in compiz02:35
Weird98GuYim a complete noob on ubuntu (sorry) how do i use that?02:35
DebolazWWeird98GuY: I would recommend getting used to having the buttons on the left side. Its more convenient once you get used to it.02:35
wilee-nileeWeird98GuY, I suggested two possiblities ubuntu tweak is a third party tool look on the web, dconf-editor is in the repos, not sure with it.02:36
esolythow can use ubuntu in a way that i can get the latest software via repos?02:36
Weird98GuYnah ill try getting used to it02:36
brophatwilee-nilee ok I cntrl C'd it and stopped it and everything looks good02:36
Weird98GuYless work (w00t laziness)02:36
Weird98GuYthanks anyways guys02:36
brophatgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez another experience brought to me by linux bwahahaha02:36
DraugauthAny idea why typing would be laggy on a fresh install of Ubuntu?02:36
wilee-nileeesolyt, use the latest release 12.0402:37
esolytwhat about a software that releases an update every month?02:37
timaaarrreeewho here likes wpa_supplicant?02:37
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esolytdo i have to be 6 months behind02:37
wilee-nileeesolyt, you are subject to the process of venting stuff in the repos to a update to be put there for use.02:38
wilee-nileevetting*02:38
DraugauthAny idea why typing would be laggy on a fresh install of Ubuntu?02:39
halfalifeNo, sorry Draugauth.02:39
halfalifeTry googling it?02:39
wilee-nileeesolyt, you can install what you want, but always be backed up if you are going to go out of the repos in case you brick the setup.02:39
wilee-nileeback up anyway really02:39
Draugauthhalfalife:  guess I am going to have to.   Trying to get networking setup but for some reason the system is being stupid.  IE after Samba is installed and I try to browse the workgroup TheRepublic it comes back saying Unable to mount location02:40
halfalifeWell, I can help with trying to figure  it out.02:40
halfalifeNot exactly busy right now.02:40
reasearcher123why my browser fails to open www.tatasky.com?02:40
wilee-nileeDraugauth, have you looked to see if the chip or ram is running high for whatever reason.02:40
Draugauthwilee-nilee:  Is there an app in ubuntu I can use to check that or do I need to go into the BIOS?02:41
wilee-nileeDraugauth, I would install htop, you can shutdown stuff with it, if something is stuck open, and see what is running.  sudo apt-get install htop    then run htop from the terminal.02:42
L3topwe support Atari 2600, 5200, 7800, Intellivision, ColecoVision, Sega Master System, NES, TurboGrafx-16, SuperGrafx, Super NES, Sega Genesis, GCE Vectrex, and of course, MAME. officially.02:42
L3topwrong chan sorry02:42
Draugauthwilee-nilee: cpu core 1 <1% cpu core 2 <2% mem 515MB02:43
halfalifeWell, it's not an issue with processing power, then.02:44
wilee-nileeDraugauth, what is your chip speed and ram amount?02:44
Draugauthwilee-nilee: Intel Core 2 Duo X6800 running at stock 2.93Ghz and 8GB of ram (well 7985MB according to htop)02:45
wilee-nileeDraugauth, seemed like you had enough, is it a bluetooth keyboard, or a laptop?02:45
Draugauthwilee-nilee: Logitech keyboard/mouse combo using a unified reciever (think it's BT)02:46
wilee-nileeDraugauth, I would look on the web with that keyboard setup I bet that is where the problem is as far as working with ubuntu, I have not seen any complaints in general, but it seems a place to look.02:47
Draugauthwilee-nilee:  Ok will do.   Ubuntu 12.04 LTS has been more problematic than the last version I used ;(02:48
uhaishHELLO ALL02:50
halfalifeHello.02:50
halfalifeNeed help, or just chillin'?02:50
DSSAAnyone have any suggestions as to which version of Ubuntu I might want to upgrade to from 10.04 that's pretty simplistic and stable?02:52
brophatDebolazW you know how to use MyUnity to stop unity from maximizing window when it is dragged to the top?02:52
uhaishjust chilling02:52
DSSAThe only real thing I do with the box is use it as a file server for mainly quickbooks02:52
uhaishand raging about how bad ktorrent is02:52
DebolazWbrophat: I don't really customize my desktop much, so I'm probably not the right person to ask.02:52
uhaishhaha your name reminds me of how much i want episode 3 to come out02:52
brophatDebolazW you are ok with that annoying maximizing of windows when they are dragged to the top?02:53
DebolazWbrophat: I prefer my windows maximized. :)02:53
DebolazWThat is a personal taste though.02:53
brophatok then I guess you are :)02:53
DarkAceZwilee-nilee, I saw that link, but you weren't here then :P02:54
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, did it work?02:54
DarkAceZSo, I'm supposed to be executing those commands on a terminal on try Ubuntu?02:54
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, yeah from a live ubuntu cd02:55
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subterfugeI messed up my display while trying to enable HDMI on my ubuntu 12.04 system.  now I have duplicate tool bars top and bottom.  I'm not well versed in how to describe the issue everything worked before I started messing with it.  Any ideas where to start to get back02:56
Guest46798t02:57
Guest46798Why can't i change my name?02:57
Guest46798i'm using crunchbang02:57
brophatDebolazW and wilee-nilee ok looks like I am back to normal, thanks for the help02:57
wilee-nileebrophat, cool. ;)02:57
subterfugeI'm using NVIDIA X Server Settings02:58
Guest71459cool02:58
Guest71459test02:58
andrewh192hey, what's the easiest way to update a BIOS if i am running ubuntu?02:58
Guest71459exit02:59
DarkAceZ/exit02:59
DarkAceZ/quit02:59
Guest71459i use the irssi in the terminal, how to read the help msg?03:00
Guest71459anybody?03:00
VeraMonook how do i tell ubuntu server to not hold back on installing kern updates?03:01
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Guest46798@veralMono you can deselect offcial ubuntu updats03:04
VeraMonoreallly03:04
VeraMonohmm03:04
aartistI have some pictures, in my shotwell, and it seems that my directory doesn't have those pictures.. and It keep saying 'Updating library'.  How I can resolve this?, I do need those pictures in shotwell.03:04
Guest46798or just install Debian03:04
AceLaptopwilee-nilee: mount: mount point /mnt/dev is not a directory mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts is not a directory mount: mount point /mnt/sys is not a directory03:05
john515Does anyone know why IRCServices (za net) do not force nick change, if a (static ip) host has authorized a nick at least once? been trying to work it around on my server03:05
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, That script is from the grub wiki.03:05
john515am I missing a config option?03:05
DarkAceZwilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136674/ second command03:06
DarkAceZ(third line)03:06
DarkAceZooooooh03:07
DarkAceZI know what happened xD03:07
kyobadhi03:07
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, here is the link, if it is not working I;m not sure why. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot03:08
kyobadi need suport some can help me but i speak spanish03:09
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, I believe it is a virtual mount with that particular line.03:09
AceLaptopwilee-nilee: so I don't need boot-repair for this?03:11
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, my link does not render that line correct use the link.03:11
AceLaptopokay03:12
dwakarhow can i run a different window manager session within the current session without logging out and again logging back in03:12
kyobadalguien habla español03:12
dwakari'm using qtile and every time i update the config file i have to logout03:12
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, my pastebin that is use the wiki you will see the same commands except for the added partition numbers, etc and the purge and reinstall.  THe bootrepair does not instal grub you are missing it.03:13
AceLaptopwilee-nilee, same error using the line from that link03:15
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, I would crtl d to unmount and try again, check in gparted to see if the sda1 is unmounted before trying again03:16
Spazioguys can anyone please recommend a file manager for ubuntu 12.04 similar to xyplorer on windows or anyway one that shows folder sizes? thanks :)03:17
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, It was strange that grub was completely gone, there may be more problems then just a missing grub set up it is hard for me to say.03:18
jribSpazio: doesn't nautilus show file sizes?03:18
Spaziono jrib i don't think so but i am using ubuntu as of just few hours :)03:19
nigwethtry Gnome Commander03:19
jribSpazio: well where do you want it to display the file size?03:19
AceLaptopwilee-nilee: you want my drive to be unmounted?03:19
AceLaptopbecause the first line says to mount it...03:19
Spaziowell i would like a file manager like xyplore which i use in windows...it has a column with folder sizes and updates automatically03:20
Spaziothanks nigweth i will try that too03:20
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, the partition sda1, was the only thing that should of been mounted.03:20
jribSpazio: go to view -> list  in nautilus03:21
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, I'm suggesting you unmount then try again using that partitcular command from the wiki.03:21
wilee-nileeparticular*03:22
AceLaptopokay03:22
Spaziojrib it tells me: 1 item, 10 items under the size column03:22
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, Every time I have needed to chroot in which is what you are doing to run the purge and reinstall and load the mbr it has worked for me, so beyongd that I'm not sure03:23
AceLaptopFailed to eject medium; one or more volumes on the medium are busy.03:23
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, from the ctrl d or gparted?03:24
AceLaptopno commands are currently running in the terminal...03:24
AceLaptopfrom nautilus03:24
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, did you try crtl d?03:24
AceLaptopon what? That seems to show desktop.03:25
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, did you close the terminal since the last error?03:25
AceLaptopyeah03:25
reasearcher123Can some one help? All sites open except a few  like facebook, tatasky, way2sms etc. I tried firefox and Google chrome both03:25
AceLaptopCTRL-D actaully closed the terminal, my bad03:26
jribreasearcher123: if they don't open, what do they do?03:26
reasearcher123jrib: it simply wait indefinitely trying to open03:26
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, ah you have to carefully follow what I write no biggie, so reboot to the disc again, follow my script and sub that one line from the wiki, and try again following my script otherwise.03:26
AceLaptopokies03:27
jribreasearcher123: can you access the sites with a different device using the same network?03:27
datacideI am trying to copy a file onto a usb stick, but for whatever reason, my file manager only copies part of the file and not the whole darn thing despite several attempts03:27
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reasearcher123jrib: never tried.how do i do that03:28
AceLaptopwilee-nilee: would it be a good idea to just pull the drive out?03:28
jribSpazio: if you want the actual size in bytes, that's something that would have to be calculated.  Maybe you can add it with an extension03:29
Seven_Six_Twomy roommate pays half of my internet, but keeps giving ap key to his friends and won't stop. I'd like to change my ap bssid and create a filtered ap with a spare wireless nic. I want to log and maybe rickroll  ;)  Is there a fairly easy solution? I'm not a newb and don't need handholding, just wondering if there's a project that does it already.03:29
miroslav_he can someone help me, i have a problem with gnome shell on ubuntu 12.04, after suspend my (laptop) have a display problem03:30
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, that wont matter really, whwn you redoing the process look at the wiki and just copy and paste the commands form there put the sda1 in where the nount is put the sda where it is just refrence the script to find the correct commands they are in one after another in the script, this will make sure there is no incorrect rendering in the script.Jusat go slow and take your time.03:30
Seven_Six_TwoEven software that does the equivalent of firesheep, but only on connections to my desktop's ap.03:30
n2diyRecently upgraded from 10.xx LTS to 12.04 LTS, and no more youtube or facebook videos!? Restricted Extras and Adobe Installer are installed, what gives?03:30
mafiaboymiroslav_: same prob here03:31
DraugauthSever_Six_Two:  The Asus routers can create "guest" networks.   Get one of those and setup a "guest" network for him to use.  Think you can even restrict the amount of bandwidth.  Other option is MAC filtering.  Then even if they get the WPA/WEP password they would have to figure out the MAC ;)03:31
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, put the purge and reinstal in where it is in refrence to the script while copying and pasting from the wiki, does this make sense?03:32
Seven_Six_TwoDraugauth, I have a wrt with tomato firmware because I need mlppp for bonded connections03:33
Toph2i just purchased a Neatgear router with 'guest' networking03:33
Seven_Six_TwoDraugauth, but I'll check it out. thanks03:33
AceLaptopwilee-nilee: only sorta... :P03:33
AceLaptopI'm so new to this.03:33
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wilee-nileeAceLaptop, sorta does not work, lets just go pm I will give you each command for you to copy and paste.03:34
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AceLaptopAm I following the wiki one or the paste one or both? (And if both, just replacing that one lin-- thanks!03:34
ajax11124Does anyone know how I would setup this aaio library for C++ to work with codelite IDE? http://aaio.sourceforge.net/03:35
wilee-nileeAceLaptop, cool I'm just concerned that any other line didi not render correctly is all.03:35
jribSpazio: if you just want to analyze how much space different directories consume, baobab (Disk Usage Analyzer in the menu) is a good tool03:36
Gr3mlinhay all is there an ubuntu server channel or can i ask someone in here?03:37
Spaziobaobab?ok thanks jrib cause gnome commander doesn't seem to do that either03:37
jribSpazio: yes, it isn't really a file manager.  It's meant to let you analyze what is using up your disk space03:37
SkazzyAnybody know a good GUI/frontend for GPG that will work with ubuntu?03:38
jribSkazzy: seahorse?03:38
jribGr3mlin: you can ask here.  There's also #ubuntu-server03:38
SkazzyI haven't checked that out yet, I'll look it up... thanks jrib03:38
MaccerCan some one explain the logic behind ubuntu trimming old packages from newer versions?  I need a x86-64 libgtk1.2, but that's no longer supported for ubuntu 12.0403:38
Gr3mlinthanks jrib  :) its a strange question not sure how to word it either.03:38
agentgasmaskSkazzy: seahorse is good for key management. I think it is default.03:38
jribMaccer: probably because gtk1 is dead :x03:39
SkazzyNoob question: Seahorse will let me encrypt/decrypt messages, yes? :)03:39
Doomhammercan anyone point me in the direction of how to boot the ubuntu install cd in EFI mode from a USB stick?03:39
lkthomasguy, I got ssh respawning too fast, stopped03:40
Maccerjrib:  So the f... what... I need it for old linux applications.  Linux isn't very friendly with old applications, is it?03:40
lkthomasany idea how to restart ssh service ?03:40
killer04anyone know where to go to get some help with wireless drivers?03:40
jribMaccer: what application?03:40
agentgasmaskSkazzy: As far as I know, it just manages the keys (creation/import/export).03:40
xubuntu_hola alguien me puede ayudar03:40
xubuntu_soy nuevo con mi xubuntu03:40
n2diyRecently upgraded from 10.xx LTS to 12.04 LTS, and no more youtube or facebook videos!? Restricted Extras and Adobe Installer are installed, what gives?03:40
agentgasmaskSkazzy: so, no.03:40
L3topMaccer: typically... incompatibility with newer packages.03:41
n2diyDid they really screw this up big time?03:41
jrib!es | xubuntu_03:41
ubottuxubuntu_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:41
Spaziothanks jrib..they call it: disk usage analyzer now :)03:41
Maccerjrib: epsxe03:41
jrib!flash | n2diy03:41
ubottun2diy: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash03:41
SkazzyI was looking for a way to encrypt/decrypt messages using the Ubuntu LiveCD. Is that possible? I can't get the command line GPG to work so I thought maybe a GUI would be more suited for me... but maybe I'm trying to do something that can't be done03:41
MaccerI've installed ia32-libs, extracted the 32-bit .deb, and placed them in /usr/lib32, but it still tries to read from /usr/lib03:41
jribMaccer: what do you mean by "extracted the 32-bit .deb and placed..."?03:42
jribSkazzy: yes, seahorse should be on there by default03:42
SkazzyRight on. I've been going batty trying to find a way to do this. Thank you for your suggestions, I will go forth with this information and try to make it work for me :D03:43
L3topMaccer: worst case scenario you make symlinks from /usr/lib to /usr/lib32... but I also want to know what you meant by extracted the 32-bit deb03:43
agentgasmaskSkazzy: I beleve gpg -ea /path/to/file works. Let me see how to specify the recipiant.03:43
SkazzyOkay.03:44
SkazzyIs there a man entry for gpg?03:44
MaccerL3top:  Yeah but I also have 64-bit versions of libgtk1.203:44
MaccerBy extraction I mean I did dpkg -X03:44
jribSkazzy: yes, and there are tons of tutorials for it on the official page too03:44
L3topMaccer: why not dpkg -i?03:44
L3topMaccer: and I am referring to symlinking package locations03:45
L3topMaccer: sorry, file locations not package03:45
killer04can anyone help with wireless adapters?03:45
MaccerL3top: I should have probably said I'm using a 64-bit system.03:45
L3top!anyone | killer0403:45
ubottukiller04: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.03:45
jribMaccer: there are a few playstation emulators in the repositories.  Have you tried them?03:45
MaccerAnd if I did force architecture, it would overwrite the 64-bit libs with 32-bit03:45
Gr3mlinBut, i have ubunut server running on a amd x2, and im using it for a webserver aswell as of course an MC server, but i notice when something when alittle wrong on the server which cranked the CPU usage the server read that it was only using 50% of the server CPU. so assuming minecraft_server.jar is single threaded. i was wondering if there was a nice little ubuntu that i could use to make minecraft_server see one cpu thread but really03:46
sereanyone know how do get et,q3 to work with 12.4 i believe the oss sound system is no longer use and thats why03:46
Maccerjrib:  No, even though epsxe isn't well maintained, it's the most fastest, stable, and easiest to use03:46
MaccerI just need a way to get these 32-bit libs to work along side with my 64-bit ones. ;_;03:46
jribMaccer: I'd consider at least trying the ones in the repositories.  They would take less than a minute to install :)03:46
L3topoutside of my paygrade Maccer, I am afraid...03:47
sereanyone know how do get et,q3 SOUND to work with 12.4 i believe the oss sound system is no longer use and thats why03:47
kevincan anyone advise me: which is the best way to share files acr0ss two machines that use the same router, they are both ubuntu 12.0403:48
L3topMaccer: when you get a solution, I would appreciate pinging my nic so I can research it from there.03:48
serei get no /dev/dsp03:48
jribkevin: ssh/sftp if you want encryption; samba or nfs otherwise03:48
DarkAceZwilee-nilee, what time is it for you?03:49
wilee-nileedarka 8:49 pm03:49
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, ^^03:49
kevinI do not need encryption. jrib---which is the easier to set up: nfs or samba?03:49
DarkAceZhmm, it's 12:00pm here03:49
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, are you in the pm still?03:49
jribkevin: probably samba.  I think you can just right click on a folder and select "share" nowadays03:50
sere11:50*03:50
Maccerjrib, L3top: Alright, I'll try and find some solutions.03:50
DarkAceZwilee-nilee, am, xD sorry, I'm used to 24 hour03:50
kevinjrib, I will install samba and try my best. Since I do not have windows at home I was unsure if samba was the best. Thanks for the info03:50
jrib!samba | kevin03:51
ubottukevin: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.03:51
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, I closed the pm open kit when booted in don't do anything yet.03:51
supercom32If you have 32-bit Lucid install, is there an upgrade path to 12.04 64-bit? or is the only alternative to re-install?03:51
wilee-nileeit*03:51
DarkAceZwilee-nilee, wait what? :P03:52
AceLaptopI'm back \o/03:53
wilee-nileeDarkAceZ, you have been also acelaptop right03:53
AceLaptopyeah03:53
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MaccerGee, you guys must have upset some one03:56
DarkAceZ:P03:56
supercom32If you have 32-bit Lucid install, is there an upgrade path to 12.04 64-bit? or is the only alternative to re-install?03:57
jribsupercom32: reinstall03:57
MaccerI don't think so.  This is a pretty commonly asked question.03:57
supercom32@jrib: Ah! Ok. Thanks.03:57
DarkAceZjrib, better ban nick geosn too, he was here before with a different IP, and spammed in the same way03:58
aleaxet55Ok i'm having a weird problem03:59
aleaxet55I plugged in an external mouse03:59
aleaxet55but it only moves in one diagonal03:59
aleaxet55clicking and scrolling work fine03:59
jribDarkAceZ: ok, thanks03:59
MaccerWhat kind of mouse is it?  Model?  USB/PS2?04:00
aleaxet55Logitech G500, USB04:00
MaccerAlso what do you mean one diagonal?04:00
aleaxet55works fine with another computer04:00
MaccerOh, I have the same mouse as you.  I don't have any problems on this xubuntu installation.04:00
MaccerTry replugging it.04:00
MaccerEr... if you haven't that is.04:00
aleaxet55i mean, it can only go in the bottom left/top right direction04:00
aleaxet55doesnt move up or down or left and right04:01
MaccerSo did you try?04:01
aleaxet55yeah04:01
aleaxet55same thing04:01
aleaxet55tried diffrent usb ports too04:01
MaccerRestarting your computer too?  I don't know.  I've had the same mouse as yours work across all linux distros04:02
aleaxet55yup, restarted04:03
MaccerI doubt it's a software or driver thing.  Try changing the DPI to something higher or lower perhaps?  See what it does?04:03
aleaxet55same thing04:03
aleaxet55did that, same thing04:03
ajax11124Does anyone know how I would setup this aaio library for C++ so I can use it as an include?04:03
MaccerDo you have a custom poll rate that you could have changed in setpoint by accident, aleaxet55?04:03
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aleaxet55I don't even know what that means, so.. maybe?04:04
MaccerYou know what setpoint is though, right?04:04
Thanosubuntu:   nvidia or amd for new install?   I have an nvidia gt430 and an amd 6670 sitting here.04:05
aleaxet55no04:05
aleaxet55aah04:05
aleaxet55its the logitech software04:05
aleaxet55No, i don't have setpoint04:06
Macceraleaxet55:  Any other input devices you have?  You could try going into what ever ubuntu has for a control panel and play around with the mouse hardware settings.  Turn off acceleration?  I dunno04:06
MaccerWhat even happens if you move the other diagonal?04:07
aleaxet55nothing, it refuses to go that direction.04:08
aleaxet55can kind of move it left and right with forcefull movement of mouse04:08
MaccerTry playing around with the mouse/cursor settings in the control panel04:08
Maccer(In ubuntu)04:08
Maxwell_SmartHello04:09
Maccero/ Maxwell_Smart04:09
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Maxwell_SmartWant to try out linux on my old computer. Can you install it on a clean hard drive without windows04:10
aleaxet55Of course04:11
Maxwell_Smartsweet, thank you04:11
aleaxet55You can even try it without installing it04:11
MaccerI don't see how that could possibly be a problem.04:11
armdalequestion about changing directory permissions: trying to change a directory's permissions /media/wd1/Music so I can set up an itunes server using forked-daapd04:11
Maxwell_SmartI am trying that now04:11
armdalegetting this error in the log: scan: Skipping library directory /media/wd1/Music/, could not dereference: Permission denied04:11
armdaleso i suppose i have to change access permissions for others?04:12
armdaletried chmod 777, didn't change anything04:12
armdalei'm pretty new to all this04:12
MaccerDid you try recursively setting the chmod for the folder?  (chmod -r)04:13
armdalei did. it took a second, like it was doing it. then when i checked with ls -l nothing had changed04:13
armdaletried sudo as well, didn't change anything04:14
MaccerI'm unfamiliar with this server software and how it behaves, so I don't know.04:15
armdaleit's more just a question about directory permissions. if i can allow the directory to be readable by all, it should all work04:16
armdalechmod doesn't seem to be doing anything for some reason04:16
MaccerI'm assuming /media/wd1 is a device folder or something?  In that case, chmod probably wouldn't work.  Check ls -l and see who the files belong to04:18
MaccerBut you could still probably read from it though...04:18
Maccer(The user and group)04:18
armdaleyea it's a hard drive04:19
armdalei own it04:19
armdalemy user04:19
AceLaptopIt says my file is uplaoded, but Ubuntu One will not let me copy public link?04:19
Maccerarmdale:  How do you launch this server anyways?04:19
armdalesudo /etc/init.d/forked-daapd start04:20
caixaubuntu!04:20
armdaleso it's that the server isn't running under my user?04:20
Maccercaixa:  No, this is Patrick.04:21
armdaleso it can't access folders that my user has access to?04:21
JRowehi there :) i just got ubuntu 12.04 installed on my acer and im trying to arrange things to be familiar04:21
JRoweis there an easy way to make the taskbar on the top of my screen autohide?04:21
Maccerarmdale:  Do you happen to know if forked-daapd de-roots itself?  You might need to add it to the group you're in04:21
caixaMaccer, patrick? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5eljJhYKY04:21
armdalenot sure what de-roots itself means04:22
Maccercaixa:  No, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzOXtXm8p004:22
Maccerarmdale:  Removes itself from root.  Removes its super user permissions.04:22
armdalenot sure about that. how would i find that out?04:22
caixaMaccer, mine was better04:23
Maccercaixa:  Well you're wrong!04:23
armdalewhen you say add 'it' to the group i'm in, you mean i would change the executable's group?04:23
Maccerarmdale:  I'm not sure.  I'd read the documentation and see what the configure says.04:23
Maccerarmdale:  Yes.04:23
armdaleah ok04:23
armdalek i'll look into it04:24
armdalethank for the help04:24
MaccerAlright.  See if it runs as its own user too.  (The exe could be root:root, but init could launch it as itself)04:24
armdalegenerally, where do executable's live in a unix file system?04:25
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JRowenear the beach, preferably04:25
ANub:)04:25
bindi/usr/bin/ I guess?04:25
armdalek04:26
ANub/usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin04:26
xanguaescuchando canciones del lustro pasado :3 wake me up when september ends04:26
Maccerarmdale:  Also, what ever init script you used to start it.  Open it up and paste the script.  I'd like to see how it launches04:26
armdalehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1138997/04:28
JRoweis the thing on the top the taskbar, or what should i be calling it? it doesnt seem to respond at all04:28
Maccerarmdale:  Well, from the look of that initscript.  It's located in /usr/sbin/forked-daapd04:28
armdaleindeed it is04:29
armdale-rwxr-xr-x 1 root    root      429680 2012-01-08 12:31 forked-daapd04:29
lingolatzHello all, I am doing a survey for a high school project regarding Linux distributions. I would appreciate if you filled out this poll: misterpoll.com/polls/564906 (choose safemode) thank you :)04:30
armdalewhen a program runs as root, it should be able to access any directory, no?04:30
kamusicianJRowe-it's a panel, left click and you will see an option to aotuhide...04:30
andrewh192hey, I am tryin to install ubuntu 32bit on my laptop04:31
JRoweno response when i left click04:31
JRoweor click, etc04:31
kamusician*autohide04:31
Maccerarmdale:  Yes, but not if it deroots itself.  Which I'm not sure whether this server does.04:31
andrewh192when i run the install cd, i keep getting this message....04:31
armdalei see04:31
MaccerCheck with what ever to see what the server runs as04:32
andrewh192"This kernal requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your CPU04:32
andrewh192what does that mean04:32
andrewh192what is a pae?04:32
JRoweyeah, i get the regular menus for whatever application is open on the panel, but theres no response from right clicking04:32
kamusicianHmm, I never had that problem- are you left clicking on the panel?04:32
bazhang!pae | andrewh19204:32
ubottuandrewh192: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info04:32
Maccerandrewh192: Process address extension04:32
JRoweright left or mid click do nothing04:32
Maccer*Physical04:32
JRowenor any combination thereof :P04:33
Maccerarmdale,  Check with what ever to see what the server runs as04:33
JRowewill killall gnome-panel reboot it?04:34
kamusicianMy bad- I meant right click- not left. If it's not responding my only suggestion is to reinstall the panel04:34
armdaleyea i'm reading the docs now04:34
JRowereinstall the panel?04:35
MaccerAccording to the conf on github armdale, it looks like it does deroot itself to a user04:35
kamusicianWhich ubuntu are you using?04:35
JRowe12.04 desktop 6404:35
ali_sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool04:35
Maccerdaapd by default.  Add the user daapd (not the binary) to your user group.04:36
andrewh192ok04:36
Maccerarmdale: daapd by default.  Add the user daapd (not the binary) to your user group.04:36
andrewh192what's a i686?04:36
lkthomashey guys, I am trying to use public key for auth on ssh04:36
kamusicianWhich desktop? xfce,gnome??04:36
VeraMonopc04:36
andrewh192isn't that capable of 64bit os versions?04:36
lkthomasI generate the private and public key on windows, and upload public key to server, but still not work04:37
JRoweoh, hmm04:37
Maccerandrewh192: That's a 32-bit instruction set.04:37
MaccerSo no, it's not.04:37
armdaleok. aannd, how would one do that04:37
JRowegnome and unity are different desktop environments / frontends?04:37
andrewh192Maccer: ok, so why then would if i was running a 32bit version of the installer, get said that it requires something that is only used for the 64 bit installer?04:38
Maccerarmdale: useradd -G group-name username04:38
JRowei believe this is unity, as its strictly default04:38
Maccerandrewh192: I'm not sure, what does it want from you in general?04:38
MaccerPAE isn't 64-bit only.04:39
andrewh192Maccer: ok04:39
MaccerPAE just lets you use memory beyond ~4GB.04:39
Maccer(on a 32-bit system)04:39
JRowei think i want gnome04:39
andrewh192Maccer: gotcha... well how do i fix it?04:39
andrewh192do i need to download and burn another copy of the install iso file?04:39
armdalehrm04:40
Maccerandrewh192: I didn't understand what the problem was in general?04:40
armdalebrodie@main:/etc$ useradd -G brodie daapd04:40
armdaleuseradd: user 'daapd' already exists04:40
andrewh192Maccer: it won't let me install ubuntu04:40
MaccerOh sorry armdale, wrong command.04:40
armdaledid i do that right?04:40
armdaleoh04:40
andrewh192Maccer: says that the cpu doesn't have PAE04:40
armdaleusermod?04:40
Maccerarmdale: usermod -a -G group user04:40
andrewh192Maccer: and that i need to use a kernel appropiate to my cpu04:40
MaccerYes.04:40
Maccerandrewh192: And this is the 32-bit ubuntu?04:41
JRowekamusician:  instead of wrestling with unity, do you know of a really flexible/customizable shell i could use as an alternative?04:41
kamusicianI've tried them them all and ended up preferring xfce04:42
LikeXd04:42
andrewh192Maccer: yeah04:42
JRowedoes it work with compiz?04:43
andrewh192i downloaded and burned a copy of the 32bit iso file of ubuntu04:43
diazruyHi everyone. I'm having trouble with the wireless network on a brand new System76 Pangolin laptop. Seems to have started after suspending. I have already enabled/disabled wireless, turned off/on the wireless card and rebooted the machine several times. It happened earlier today when I disabled the card with the keyboard Fn key but it came back eventually when I disabled/enabled using the network icon.04:43
Maccerandrewh192:  Looks like you'll have to use either:  1. The alternate 32-bit CD.  2. A different ubuntu flavor or distrobution04:43
andrewh192ok04:43
kamusicianIt's fairly easy to customize and light weight and I believe it works with compiz...04:44
andrewh192Maccer: thanx04:44
LikeSsss.04:44
Maccer!pae | andrewh19204:44
ubottuandrewh192: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info04:44
Maccerhttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html04:44
armdaledoesn't look to have worked:  scan: Skipping library directory /media/wd1/Music/, could not dereference: Permission denied04:44
JRowecool, tyvm kamusician . gonna get xfce installed and save myself some frustration04:44
Maccerdiazruy: I don't understand what the problem is?04:44
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armdalealthough, drwx------ 1 brodie brodie 139264 2012-08-08 10:36 Music04:45
hashshuthis is fun04:45
kamusicianGood idea- you'll probably like it!  I'm out for now- good luck04:45
armdalethat menas that the folder Music is only accessible to the user, not the group?04:45
Maccerarmdale:  Paste your config (without your password)04:45
diazruyMaccer: I can't seem to reach hosts. The wireless network detects networks, connects to them, but when I try to navigate using the browser, it says it can't connect to the host. Using IPs doesn't work either. Can't even ping the router04:45
hashshuchmod a+rwx04:45
hashshuchmod a+rwx *04:45
armdalemy config?04:46
Maccerarmdale:  No it's accessable to everyone who's under brodie.  Assuming you have read permissions on those folders04:46
MaccerYeah, the .conf?04:46
armdaleoh right04:46
Maccerdiazruy:  Do you happen to be using a DD-WRT or Open-WRT router?04:46
MaccerIn-fact, does ethernet work from this wireless router?04:46
diazruyMaccer: my router is an SMC04:47
armdalehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139021/04:47
diazruyMaccer: yes, the wired network is fine. And I can connect my phone wirelessly to it without a problem04:47
Maccerdiazruy:  Could I get a copy of your 'lsmod' output?  And then possibly the output of 'dmesg | grep wlan0'04:48
diazruyMaccer: one second, it might take a bit since I'll have to copy it to a usb or something. Or would it affect the output if I connect the laptop on the wired network?04:49
Maccerdiazruy:  No it shouldn't, just as long as you don't restart the computer04:49
usr13diazruy: what does iwconfig say?  What does ifconfig say?04:50
mneptokdiazruy: also, try "sudo dhclient wlan0" and see what output you get.04:50
Spazioguys does wine-doors still works on ubuntu 12.04? if so anyone can help me install it please? thank you :)04:51
MaccerSpazio: It's unmaintained, so it might and it might not.04:52
guest_1065!wine | Spazio04:54
ubottuSpazio: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu04:54
MaccerAlso Spazio:  Why would you want wine-doors anyways?  The repository is terribly out of date, and you'd have better luck just downloading it straight away04:54
Spaziohi guys thanks all...yes i installed wine already but the program i wanted to run doesn't work and i read it did with wine-doors04:54
Spaziodownloading straight away what Maccer?04:55
diazruyMaccer: just paste the output here?04:55
mneptokSpazio: the WINE AppDB is the authoritative source on what will work and what will not.04:55
Maccerdiazruy:  On pastebin or a related site, yes04:55
diazruyok one sec04:55
MaccerSpazio, why do you think it won't run?  Did you try it?04:55
SpazioMaccer yes I did and it doesn't unfortunately :)04:56
SpazioI also read it might work with Mono? Anyway this application needs Visual Basic04:57
MaccerWine-doors doesn't do anything special though...04:57
Spaziothis is were i read about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?p=1959604:57
MaccerHave you tried it with the latest Wine and ubuntu 12.04?04:57
diazruyMaccer: http://pastebin.com/U8D3ZzWW04:58
MaccerYou could get it here http://sourceforge.net/projects/winedoors/, but you'll have to compile it yourself.04:58
phonebook_whats the word for dna that is there but your body doesnt use?04:58
phonebook_like code that is there but isnt getting used04:58
Maccerdiazruy:  Why are you running virtualbox drivers?04:58
Maccervboxdrv is for uhh, guests, afaik.04:58
SpazioMaccer yes I tried all latest...i found the sourceforge link and downloaded the thing but dunno what to do with it04:58
mneptokSpazio: wait ... all this for a ... file manager?04:59
MaccerSpazio:  Check README, INSTALL, etc04:59
diazruyMaccer: I need virtualbox to test IE. Wireless was working earlier today, after I set up Virtualbox04:59
Spazioyes mneptok...i really need it right now..not worth explaining why trust me :)04:59
mneptokSpazio: best of luck. if it's not in the WINE AppDB, it's unlikely to work based on hints in a forum post that is *4 years old*05:00
MaccerSo it was working earlier, diazruy?  I'm not sure how this works in a virtualbox guest though05:00
diazruyMaccer: yes, I used it all day today and it stopped working all of a sudden05:01
diazruyMaccer: I am not using a virtualbox guest at themoment05:01
diazruyi can uninstall virtualbox if that helps05:01
Spazioyes mneptok that's why i come to ask..i'm dubious myself...but i won't like permanently ruin something id it doesn't work right?sorry but i'm too new05:01
MaccerAre you using ipv6 on purpose diazruy?05:02
diazruyMaccer: no, whatever is default05:02
JRoweanyone know of a netbook specific channel?05:02
MaccerTry connecting by ipv4, check your network manager settings.  Your laptop is trying to connect via ipv4 exlusively05:02
diazruyMaccer: I tried disabling ipv6 to see if that helped05:03
mneptok!alis > JRowe05:03
ubottuJRowe, please see my private message05:03
diazruyMaccer: you're saying I should enable it?05:03
MaccerAnd make sure it's set to ipv4 explicitly05:03
wilee-nileeJRowe, not really a netbook has hardware that is a regular laptop generally or desktop05:03
MaccerI suppose, diazruy.05:03
wilee-nileeis in a*05:04
JRowethanks mneptok :)05:04
diazruyMaccer: so I'm re-enabling ipv6 (method Automatic)05:04
mneptokSpazio: you know that there are many, MANY file and window managers for Unix OSes, yes?05:04
Maccerdiazruy:  Ok.  And if that doesn't work, set it solely to ipv4.05:04
diazruyMaccer: how do I do that?05:04
Pummelanyone seen this problem?  I've checked the forums and tried all the stuff on there regarding moving the lists folder, creating a new one, then apt-get clean, then apt-get update and no good see the following05:04
PummelE: Malformed status line, no 2nd word05:05
PummelE: Error occurred while processing libasound2 (UsePackage2)05:05
PummelE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status05:05
PummelE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.05:05
MaccerWhen you're editing the wireless connection, go to ipv4 settings and set 'Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete' and uncheck 'Require IPv6 addressing for this connection to complete' if it fails05:05
wilee-nilee!pastebin | pummel use this in the future05:06
ubottupummel use this in the future: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:06
kevinI am trying to file share using samba. I have followed the intructions from ubuntu and set up samba as instructed. When I open nautilus and click 'browse network' it locates all the pc's on the network. When I connect it returns 'Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server. Can any one tell me what I have done wrong?05:06
MaccerWait diazruy:  Could you please give me the output of 'dmesg | grep wlan0' AFTER you did sudo dhclient wlan005:06
MaccerYou gave me the before output by the way.05:07
diazruyMaccer: I've already selected require ipv4 and ipv6. do you want the output before I do that?05:07
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MaccerDe-select ipv6, sudo dhclient wlan0, try connecting, 'dmesg | grep wlan0'05:08
diazruyMaccer: http://pastebin.com/4pcmYUui05:09
armdale /join #linux05:09
diazruyMaccer: I'll pull the network cable then to test the require ipv4 setting change05:10
theadminAny help on bug 1035173? (I assumed it's a bug so I reported it)05:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035173 in vlc (Ubuntu) "Noise in VLC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103517305:12
MaccerHrm, still trying to connect to ipv6 for some reason.  This is after dhclient, diazruy?05:13
PummelCan anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/05:13
diazruy2Maccer: when I checked both require ipv4 AND ipv6, the connection kept on being dropped and reestablished. When I deselect require ipv6 then it goes back to the way it was before (can't reach hosts)05:14
MonkeyDustop de fiets05:14
MonkeyDustoops05:14
diazruy2Maccer: by the way, I logged in with this other used from my desktop05:14
diazruy2*user05:15
Maccerdiazruy2: I'm honestly puzzled, but also a little tired. <_>05:16
diazruy2Maccer: no worries. I appreciate the effort05:16
kevinWhen I use samba to share files I receive the error 'unable to mount location', and 'Failed to retrieve share list from server'. Can any one help?05:17
wilee-nilee!samba05:18
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.05:18
exsanetikkyyruyvu089487ku7on v yviu05:19
Thanoswhich file browser is as useful (or moreso) than windows explorer05:19
JRowetotal commander05:19
niocoraHow do I get an updated wacom.ko from input-wacom?05:19
atopalHi all05:19
wilee-nileeexsanet, hope that is not a password05:20
ThanosJRowe: for ubuntu? I'm sorry I didn't specify.05:20
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blkperlHi guys, I'm trying to get Precise working with nfs mounted homedirs and on login dconf-service hangs, the open file is $USER/.config/dconf/user and when you try to ls it hangs as well.05:21
JRowehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106093705:21
Element85hey guys, I am trying to figure something out I need to stop a module from loading when connecting a USB device05:21
theadminThanos: Most of filemanagers in Ubuntu are much better than that, but if you're looking for something similar to total commander try mc, vifm or xfe05:21
Thanosthanks.05:22
JRowemight have some relevance - im a noob so take that with a grain of salt :)05:22
theadminThanos: gnome-commander is good too05:22
Element85if anyone has a good way to stop the module from loading let me know trying to resolve a bug05:23
Element85its loading as part of the evdev driver05:23
theadminElement85: Create /etc/modprobe.d/yourmodule.conf and add "blacklist yourmodule" there.05:24
theadminOh.05:24
Element85yeah I figure I probably don't want to black list that entire module05:24
theadminHm, well I know no other way, soryr05:25
theadminsorry*05:25
niocoraHow do I get an updated wacom.ko from input-wacom?05:26
Element85well let me give it a try really quick if my keyboard stops working we know what happened05:26
Element85one sec let me spin up a vm and try actually05:26
MaccerSo my own question, does anyone happen to know how to fix this conflict?  I have an old 32-bit application that reads /usr/lib (64-bit) instead of /usr/lib32.  Is there any work around I can do to fix this?  (64-bit system with both 32-bit and 64-bit libs)05:26
Element85nicora: they have an updated tarball on wacom website I would try installing the whole thing05:27
Element85nicora: are you trying to get a lenovo mutlitouch display working?05:28
Like#FF YOU05:28
LikeTHX 7305:28
niocoraElement85: A Bamboo Pen & Touch.05:30
Element85niocora: let me link you one sec05:30
MonkeyDustMaccer  you need ia32-libs05:31
Hereisanotherlieanyone have experience creating a bootable usb for a mac?05:32
MonkeyDust!info ia32-libs-multiarch05:32
ubottuia32-libs-multiarch (source: ia32-libs): Multi-arch versions of former ia32-libraries. In component universe, is extra. Version 20090808ubuntu35 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 39 kB (Only available for amd64; ia64; i386)05:32
HereisanotherlieI keep getting an invalid disk image message05:32
linuxuz3rhi05:33
HereisanotherlieI tried using linux live usb creator for windows and the official ubuntu guide for macs to no avail05:33
wolfgang_when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?05:33
SnowieHi all. A bit OT, but I'm trying to test a patch for a bug report I submitted. Apparently 12.04 and CAPS don't agree with eachother. Ardour 3 beta 5. Any advice or reading you could give me to test this out. http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=503905:33
linuxuz3ris gdm used for 12.04 login window?05:33
theadminlinuxuz3r: No, lightdm05:33
crimsonmaneHereisanotherlie: try using UNETBOOTIN05:33
linuxuz3rdoes lightdm work with vmware fusion05:33
Hereisanotherliecrimsonmane: I did but it says the usb stick will only work on windows after it's completed05:34
crimsonmane"work on windows" ??? it's a BOOT DEVICE it doesnt care what OS is already installed05:34
Hereisanotherliei.e. Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7, or Linux, or Mac OS X 10.5+. Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)05:34
Hereisanotherliethat's from their site05:35
wolfgang_when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?05:35
SnowieHereisanotherlie, PC doesnt mean windows05:35
Hereisanotherliecrimsonmane: it has to do with UEFI05:35
crimsonmanemacs are PC's too05:35
Hereisanotherliemaybe it means ppc? I'll try it out05:35
MonkeyDustfalse, it's either mac or pc05:35
wolfgang_PC= personal computer05:35
crimsonmanemacs are personal computers05:35
Snowiecrimsonmane, Apple would quickly disagree. PC's are technically "IBM Compatible Personal Computers"05:36
wolfgang_when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?05:36
crimsonmaneapple just wants to be different, for marketing reasons05:36
HereisanotherlieI'm trying to do this on a macbook air without an optical drive otherwise I would just burn a cd05:36
Snowiecrimsonmane, I know, but historically, the term 'PC' is exactly what i said before05:36
akemand Apple are x86 too nowdays iirc.05:37
crimsonmaneanyway, in your UEFI computer you're supposed to turn off secure boot and other secure features in order to boot linux on it05:37
andrewh192is there a iso file of ubuntu that is non-pae using05:37
Hereisanotherlieakem: they are05:37
andrewh192not sure how to say that any other way...05:37
andrewh192i am having trouble still installing ubuntu onto a laptop05:37
akemHereisanotherlie, yea not like the old PPC mac days.05:37
akemso they are really PCs now.05:37
Element85sorry got distracted still getting it05:37
andrewh192keeps saying that PAE isn't on the CPU and i need to use the correct kernal for my cpu05:37
crimsonmaneandrewh192: is it a 32 bit or 64 bit computer?05:38
Hereisanotherlieit looks like you guys are right though unetbootin should work -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/129177/ubuntu-usb-for-os-x-instructions-dont-create-bootable-usb-drive05:38
niocoraElement85: TY05:38
andrewh1923205:38
Element85niocora: http://www.wacom.com/en/CustomerCare/Drivers.aspx?model=Bamboo+Pen+and+Touch&os=Linux05:38
crimsonmaneandrewh192: one moment while i fetch your link and install the system and configure the settings for you05:38
andrewh192kewl05:38
andrewh192thanx crimsonmane05:39
Element85niocora: those worked for me getting my tablet working05:39
niocoraElement85: What tablet do you have?05:39
crimsonmaneandrewh192: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent05:40
crimsonmaneandrewh192: burn that to disc05:40
crimsonmaneafter downloading05:40
niocoraElement85: I don't get anything from that link. Just a selection of wacom websites.05:40
dicktardAnyone know how to convert flv vids from youtube to something readable in a regular home dvd player?05:40
crimsonmanedicktard: that's illegal, isnt it?05:41
niocoradicktard: DeVeDe.05:41
Snowiedicktard, not suppored here, but ffmpeg or...05:41
kevinsee if ffmpeg would convert it ? to a dvd readable formt05:41
wolfgang_when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?05:41
dicktardcrimsonmane: Not if they are home vids05:41
Hereisanotherlieif I were to download youtube videos I would probably start by googling a "youtube ripper" but that's just a hypothetical05:42
dicktardkevin: What formats are usually readable?05:42
mneptokdicktard: try VLC. it might. and your nick is ... well ... really? really?05:42
Hereisanotherliedicktard: avi mpeg05:42
Hereisanotherliedicktard: dicktard dicktard or mp405:42
dicktardHereisanotherlie: I already have them downloaded, just need to change the flv vids to something else.05:42
Snowiedicktard, as to what ur dvd player will read from a disc, consult dvd player manual05:43
Hereisanotherlieit depends on the player though05:43
kevinnot sure dicktard...I just have used ffmpeg and know that it converts plenty of formats...google ffmpeg and see if htey do it05:43
crimsonmanedicktard: if they're home vids, then why are you having to rip them off youtube?05:43
crimsonmanewhy dont you have access to the originals?05:43
SnowieSo... I'm about to head out for a bit, but I'm keen to learn somthing. Please if you had to find reading material for a noob to learn how to apply this patch http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=5039 PM me. Im off to get some beers, as I imagine this will be some frustrating reading. THANKS UBUNTU TEAM!!! brb05:45
wolfgang_when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?05:45
kevinsudo apt-get install samba.....will this install both client and server?05:45
mneptokwolfgang_: have you specifically blocked ports on the machine?05:45
dicktardcrimsonmane: not really home vids, rather foreign vids that may or may not be home vids.05:46
crimsonmanewolfgang_: there's a firewall program installed by default, and you can open the port with it.05:46
niocoradicktard: DeVeDe.05:46
crimsonmanedicktard: so "someone else' home vids"05:46
niocoraIt is from the repositories...05:46
wolfgang_i have it configured by going to default gateway in browser05:46
mneptokdicktard: you have some directions. VLC. ffmpeg. your DVD manual. go explore.05:46
crimsonmanedicktard: so you're a pedo is what you're saying? you watch "home videos" but they're not necessarily your own...05:46
wolfgang_but there is a terminal command to05:46
wolfgang_i just dont remember it05:46
wolfgang_i have port forwarded several times05:47
mneptokcrimsonmane: dicktard has the needed advice. let's let it drop.05:47
mneptokwolfgang_: iptables is the default firewall. but it blocks *nothing* by default.05:47
wolfgang_When i have done it before i had to configure the router in browser then use a command in terminal05:48
upsetI turned off compositing in unity 2d through Ubuntu Tweak. Now the edges of my dash are gone. I also can05:48
wolfgang_i just forgot the command05:48
andrewh192crimsonmane: thanx05:48
mneptokcrimsonmane: also, calling people terms like "pedo" is definitely against the !CoC05:48
upsetI also can't see the end of the applications options. The sources options in the dash fall off the screen. What can I do?05:48
dicktardcrimsonmane: As a minor and as a female, it's hard to be considered a pedo. haha05:49
MaccerMonkeyDust: I already do ia32-libs, if I didn't, /usr/lib32 wouldn't exist or would be useless05:49
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upsetdicktard: That's quite the sexist remark05:49
mneptok!ot05:50
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:50
IdleOnedicktard: drop it. you got the advice you needed, please move on.05:50
wolfgang_what is the command?05:50
dicktardIdleOne: Thank you, it's done.05:50
upsetdicktard: In any case, your name is pretty offensive. You should use another in channels like this. There's a high standard of courtesy05:50
crimsonmanekids these days...05:50
IdleOnecrimsonmane: We don't need any comments from the peanut gallery05:51
upsetWoah, chill05:51
mneptokhi!05:51
wolfgang_what is the command?05:51
upsetAgain, application option fall off the dash, and the edges of my dash are gone since I turned off compositing. What can I do for either issue?05:52
MonkeyDustMaccer  do you find ia32-libs-multiarch is installed, using apt-cache policy?05:52
wolfgang_what is fire wall command?05:53
MonkeyDustwolfgang_  ufw05:53
wolfgang_thank you05:53
upsetI'll go to the forums or something. Later folks05:54
guest-QACULMguys i ran into some crazy ubuntu mess, on 12.04 32 bit, i was using my laptop yesterday screen turned hot pink with black dots, i restarted now whenever i try to log into my regular account it gets into a boot loop05:54
guest-QACULMsays something really fast and then drops back to login menu, i choose guest and it works but cannot log into my regular account05:55
diazruy2Maccer: I've found something new. The laptop can connect to the wireless network, but can't acess hosts. However, at one point the laptop was able to see my iPhone's personal hotspot and connected to it, and I was able to browse using that wifi connection. Going back to the router one, however, still doesn't work05:55
diazruy2One strange thing is that the laptop doesn't always see the iPhone hotspot05:55
wolfgang_how do i use root in terminal?05:57
MonkeyDustwolfgang_  sudo05:57
wolfgang_MonkeyDust, so i just do sudo and that gives me root?05:57
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Snowiewolfgang_, no, use sudo in front of the command you want to run as root.05:58
MonkeyDustwolfgang_  sudo ufw status/enable/disable   (choose one of these)05:58
idefixcan anyone help me with this small problem I have..05:58
wolfgang_ok thank you05:58
idefixI can't get sound running properly in the Jin client using Java05:58
Snowie!ask | idefix05:58
ubottuidefix: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:58
jardaghow to print existing pdf file05:59
Snowiejardag, um, pressing print is not working for you?05:59
idefixthe Jin client is a chess client, it makes a ticking sound when you make a move and different sounds when you capture or castle, but my client makes three sounds in a row after three moves which is very annoying05:59
jardagthere is no print button in the pdf viewer06:00
Snowiejardag, file>print ???06:00
ylmfoshello06:00
niocoraI can't compile xf86-input-wacom-0.16.0 because I get the error No package 'xorg-server' found No package 'randrproto' found.06:01
Snowieso noone could give me a jumping off point to try this patch http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=503906:01
ylmfoshello man06:01
tao_hi anyone has time to help me trouble shoot my wireless adapter?06:02
jardagwhat is file.pdf > print06:02
tao_i am running 12.0406:02
Snowietao_, just tell everyone what's happening and what youve tried :)06:02
diazruy2Maccer: it seems like it has to do with  wireless encryption. I've changed the router to use WEP with 64 bit key and it connected06:02
johnnypoopoohi. i messed up my ubuntu box.06:02
johnnypoopooroot@localhost:/# ps06:02
johnnypoopoobash: /bin/ps: No such file or directory06:02
MonkeyDustSnowie  technically, it's for this channel, but the people in #ubuntustudio may be more skilled06:02
johnnypoopoo /bin/ps is there, but i cannot execute it :\06:02
tao_i am using an Asus wireless pci adpater, chipset is Ralink rt2790, kernel module in use is rt2800pci06:02
SnowieMonkeyDust, thanks mate, will try there as well06:03
tao_it does not work with kernel 3.2.0.2906:03
MonkeyDusttao_  the current kernel is 3.2.0-27, anything beyond that is not supported and/or probably unstable06:04
iwak-piyekiwak-piyek yummy06:04
tao_i installed backport kernel modules, and loaded the rt2800 ko, still can not connect, i can see my access point but it will not establish any connection06:04
johnnypoopooplease help me06:04
tao_MonkeyDust, i just got the kernel from ubuntu update, they just pushed it out today, i had same problem on 3.2.0.27 as well06:05
niocorajohnnypoopoo: Type cd in a terminal.06:05
johnnypoopooi did06:06
niocorajohnnypoopoo: And?06:06
niocoraAnny errors?06:06
johnnypoopooroot@localhost:/# cd06:06
johnnypoopooroot@localhost:~#06:06
johnnypoopoonope06:06
idefixSnowie, nobody know Jin.. :(06:06
johnnypoopoobut netstat, ps, ifconfig all dont work06:06
niocoraTry apt-get06:06
johnnypoopooyeah that works06:06
tao_also the wireless card seem to work under kernel 3.4, but ati fglrx is not working..so i guess i am trying to get both to work.06:06
johnnypoopoocan i reinstall these some how ?06:06
diazruy2Maccer: I've updated the router once again to use WPA-Personal, I erased the connection on the laptop and rejoined, and now it's all working06:07
Snowieidefix, i guess not. try contacting the programs developers. you can find their contact info in the software centre06:07
idefixthx06:07
mneptokjohnnypoopoo: what happens if you are not root?06:07
niocorajohnnypoopoo: Somehow those prgorams are broken... I can't help, sorry.06:07
johnnypoopooLOL06:08
johnnypoopoomneptok still doesnt work06:08
idefixSnowie unfortunately the program isn't installed from the repositories06:08
johnnypoopoo /bin/ps is there.... but they wont execute06:08
johnnypoopoobash is saying no such file or dir06:08
ZenexerI just upgraded with apt-get (apt-get upgrade).  Typical procedure, but now after I log in via lightdm or gdm, I just get a desktop background and mouse cursor.  No windows, no Unity, and I've tried a bit of troubleshooting, but I can't seem to figure it out.  Any tips?06:08
mneptokjohnnypoopoo: ls -l /bin/ps06:09
johnnypoopooroot@localhost:/home/bunghole# ls -l /bin/ps06:09
johnnypoopoo-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33280 1983-09-26 00:45 /bin/ps06:09
johnnypoopooroot@localhost:/home/bunghole#06:09
mneptokjohnnypoopoo: you might have FS corruption. use tools to fiagnose that.06:11
mneptok*diagnose06:11
johnnypoopoowhat tools06:11
MonkeyDusttao_  you're right: kernel -29 here too06:11
mneptokjohnnypoopoo: fsck etc. or just reinstall if there's no data outside /home you care about. see what happens.06:12
Snowiejohnnypoopoo, restart machine, hold down shift to load grub menu, and use fsck, "file system check"06:12
Snowiejohnnypoopoo, sorry, load recovery mode from grub. missed a step06:13
saju_mi got a command   socat -d -d -d  TCP-LISTEN:6900 EXEC:'/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900' > /tmp/6900_5900_S9BJWs.log 2>&1 &06:14
saju_m* Any request to post 6900 of localhost will execute command '/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900'06:14
saju_m* could you please explain the use of "socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900" in command "/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900"06:14
johnnypoopooso06:16
johnnypoopooif as root i accidentally went to /bin06:16
johnnypoopooand rm -rf ps06:16
johnnypoopootheres NO way to reinstall it?06:16
MaccerWell, you'd re-install it by installing it again, wouldn't you?06:17
tao_alright, i will try to use ndiswrapper, that is the only thing i can think of for now06:17
tao_will post back results later06:17
johnnypoopooreinstalling the OS again ?06:17
johnnypoopooim talking just ps itself06:17
MaccerI assume you mean recover it johnnypoopoo in which I'm sure there's a way, but it requires you to do a lot of painful manual terminal labor.06:17
johnnypoopoothe command06:18
MaccerOh.  PS... hrm.06:18
johnnypoopooyeah06:18
johnnypoopooprocess status06:18
johnnypoopoo /bin/ps06:18
MaccerNo, I think you could survive without PS.  Although I'm not sure.06:18
MaccerWhy is that?06:18
MaccerThat's not too low level though, so you could break some initscripts at most.06:18
MaccerCorrect me if I'm wrong06:19
MaccerAlso, one thing to vent about to ubuntu devs, why didn't ya'll just make ld check /usr/lib32 instead of /usr/lib/i386-gnu-linux?  Such redundancy.06:19
johnnypoopoonevermind06:19
johnnypoopooi fucking figured it out06:20
johnnypoopoowhat a useless shite of a channel06:20
FloodBot1johnnypoopoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:20
Maccerjohnnypoopoo: That's not very nice06:20
johnnypoopooall i have to do is find the package that contains ps and re-install it using apt-get --reinstall install <pkgname>06:20
Maccerlolwut he could have asked that in the first place06:20
ZenexerThere's a package for that?06:20
ZenexerGood to know.06:20
Maccercoreutils06:21
ZenexerI suppose it would be in that, wouldn't it.06:21
MaccerJust got confused on why you would want to delete ps...06:21
ZenexerSo that you can re-download it from a shady website, of course!06:22
Maccerrun_as_sudo_to_recover_ps.sh06:22
ZenexerIt's Linux, so it's safer to do that than it is to use those DLL sites for Windows.06:22
ZenexerThough fortunately, I don't think you'll find such sites for Linux.06:23
jardagwhat application prints pdf file in 112.04. evince does not06:23
ZenexerI was just setting up my printer and about to test it on a PDF file06:24
ZenexerGot a bit preoccupied with another problem, though06:24
trimetaSomething I've never entirely understood: if the changelog for linux-meta says that the only effect of the new kernel version is "Bump ABI", is there any reason whatsoever to reboot into the new kernel?06:24
jardagZenexer, how you want to test printing .pdf file?06:27
alien64humm seems Unity and Compiz are still a bit at odds....06:29
ArsonideSo I installed Ubuntu, and as it boots up it gives me an out of range monitor error, which was slightly inconvenient but not too much of an issue because once it gets to LightDM it works fine.06:30
ArsonideHowever now I'm trying to install NVidia drivers, which forces me to log out and boot into a terminal session.06:30
ArsonideWhich is out of range.06:30
andrewh192I keep getting this error message when i try to install ubuntu onto my laptop06:30
ArsonideI've tried all sorts of things, and I'm frustrated at this point.06:30
ArsonideI even tried plugging it into another monitor06:31
TJ-Arsonide: Are you familiar with getting to the GRUB boot menu, and altering the Linux kernel's command line?06:31
andrewh192"This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot - please use a kernal appropiate for your CPU06:31
ArsonideNo, but this is on a second PC, so I can follow along.06:31
andrewh192i have tried to install the alternate cd version06:32
TJ-andrewaclt: That PC must have a rather ancient CPU?06:32
andrewh192i have tried to install the 64bit version just in case06:32
andrewh192i have tried everythign i can think of...06:32
andrewh192nothing seems to work...06:32
andrewh192but it would seem there is a solution06:33
andrewh192and would i think involve me still being able to install Ubuntu06:33
andrewh192just not sure how06:33
TJ-Arsonide: When the PC starts, immediately after the BIOS display, the GRUB bootloader menu can be accessed by holding down the shift key. Once you have that menu, you can edit one of the entries to change the kernel command line to avoid the "out of range" issue.06:33
ArsonideWhat if I don't see that screen? I think that's in the out of range block.06:34
ArsonideI changed the grub resolution though and updated it from Ubuntu.06:34
TJ-andrewaclt: The kernel builds for i386 based CPUs were changed to by default support Processor Address Extensions (PAE). It sounds as if the CPU in that PC doesn't support PAE. I believe there are some non PAE builds but I need to check06:34
ArsonideYes, I booted and I saw "Grub loading ->out of range -> now my ubuntu login screen is showing06:35
TJ-Arsonide: You can install the Nvidia drivers from the GUI once you're logged in06:35
ArsonideNo because installing those drivers requires X to be shut down06:36
Arsonideso I can't see what I'm doing when the terminal pops up06:36
andrewh192TJ-: ok06:36
andrewh192TJ-: that would be awesome06:36
caixaUBUNTU06:36
TJ-Arsonide: No, from the GUI you can install them ... top-right corner, press the gear icon, then choose "System Settings..." > Harware > Additional Drivers06:36
caixaUBUNTU!06:37
bobo37773andrewh192: If you are getting a pae error can you try installing a non pae enabled kernel and see if that works?06:37
caixaHIP HIP HOORAY06:37
trimetaandrewh192: If you don't mind us asking, what processor do you have?06:37
ArsonideTJ- I have another issue in that there's a bug with the drivers that menu provides.06:38
andrewh192trimeta: i am not sure06:38
ArsonideThat causes heavy graphical corruption.06:38
ArsonideI have to install the binaries from NVIDIA's site.06:38
ArsonideWhich means I have to figure out why my terminal is out of range06:38
Arsonidewhich would be nice anyway06:38
ZenexerArsonide: They have different ones on their site?06:38
Arsonidein case I need it again in the future.06:38
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andrewh192trimeta: its a pentium m06:38
ArsonideYes, they have more up to date ones.06:38
andrewh192processor06:38
ZenexerHmm06:38
andrewh192chipset is Intel 1855gm/gme/FSB06:39
ZenexerI wonder if that will solve my dual-screen issues06:39
SnowieOk, so i now have solid install instructions. BUT, was CAPS installed form source on my machine? Where do i install/reinstall the following to test the patch. Im ahead, just need to know in which directory this all goes. dpkg-query -L caps has too many options http://quitte.de/dsp/caps.html#Installation06:39
andrewh192whatever that all means06:39
EMPHASIS_Anyone know of a QR code generator, please?06:39
andrewh192i ran the memory test and memtest+ came up with stuff.. that's what it says06:39
ZenexerEMPHASIS_: I usually just Google stuff like that06:40
SnowieEMPHASIS_, qrcode.com im sure06:40
zrutyWindows saved a recycle bin on my disk, how can I delete it? In constantly get 'read only file system', but it isn't, only that folder is.06:40
MonkeyDustzruty  sudo rm06:40
bobo37773andrewh192: See this:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975422    Then do this (maybe?):    http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html06:40
Zenexerzruty: What filesystem?  ext# or NTFS?06:40
EMPHASIS_Zenexer, Snowie: thanks.  bfn.06:40
TJ-Arsonide: what's the bug?06:40
Arsonideheavy graphical corruption06:41
TJ-andrewh192: still looking...!06:41
ZenexerSometimes sudo will still complain for NTFS06:41
zrutyFAT32 - it is a ubuntu bootable disk06:41
TJ-Arsonide: Is the graphics in your PC very recent?06:41
ArsonideNo it's pretty old06:41
zrutyMonkeyDust: Helped for some files in there, not all06:42
bobo37773TJ-: See my previous comment. Look right to you (reguarding andrewh192s issue)?06:42
zrutyZenexer: I will check those pages06:42
zrutyThanks sofar!06:42
ZenexerIf it's a bootable disk, the filesystem is probably mounted read-only06:43
andrewh192i think i have found my answer06:43
ZenexerAs in, one of those LiveUSB things06:43
scarleoHello, one folder in my home suddenly have very strange permissions, have anyone seen this before? d?????????   ? ?     ?          ?            ? .gvfs/06:43
andrewh192downloading the mini.iso file and installing that06:43
TJ-bobo37773: Yes, I had read those, but I'm looking at the official builds to be sure. I believe the mini.iso is non PAE but its a bit of pain having to install from that first06:43
bobo37773TJ-: Ah, I see. May be a little more complex than usual. Good point06:44
Zenexerzruty: If the filesystem is mounted read-only, permissions don't even matter.06:44
TJ-bobo37773: Last thing we want is to download that image and then find out its the same PAE kernel!06:45
ZenexerAt least, in terms of writing.06:45
ZenexerYou can't override it06:45
bark_is it possible to setup the disk partitioning scheme in a cli environment (i.e. jump into a shell; set everything up; and then continue with the installer as normal)?06:45
bobo37773TJ-: Hahaha. Yeah guess that would be a drag. Is pae a built in or can it be turned on and off?06:45
buttersanybody here can help me with installing ubuntu?06:45
andrewh192hey06:45
andrewh192thanx guys.. :-)06:45
zrutyZenexer: It never mounted RO before...06:46
Zenexerbark_: There's an entire CLI installer, if that'll work.  It's pseudo-GUI06:46
Zenexerzruty: I think those mount RO and log any changes in a separate area or something along the lines of that.06:46
TJ-bobo37773: It's built-in ... its core to how the CPU addresses memory. With PAE a 32-bit CPU can address more than 4GB of RAM06:46
ZenexerDepends on the type06:46
bark_Zenexer: you mean the server/alternative installer? that's what i'm using06:46
Zenexerbark_: I think even the desktop one is capable of it06:47
HalitusHi all, Does any one know why some times copying files on my mdadm array (xfs) it takes almost no time, and some times it takes ages like its copying the data?06:47
bobo37773TJ-: Ah gotcha. Thought their might be a kernel option to enable / disable it on the fly. Guess that wouldn't make sense though since it probably needs to be compiled a certain way.06:47
scarleoI cant get a correct listing of .gvfs even with root, who should own the .gvfs folder? And what permissions?06:47
ZenexerOr, rather, default06:47
Zenexerscarleo: Which .gvfs folder?  The one in ~?06:48
bobo37773TJ-: Think andrewh192 took off already06:48
scarleoZenexer, yes, that one, I have ? for owner and permissions even when listing as root06:48
TJ-bobo37773: looking at the archives, there's -generic and -generic-pae linux-image for 3.2 so that would imply the generic is non-PAE but not sure which ISOs they would be in . Yes saw andrew192 go... lets hope he is successful06:48
ZenexerI think it should be you...06:48
ZenexerLet me check06:48
ZenexerYeah, mine's owned by me06:49
scarleoZenexer, great, thanks!06:49
scarleo0700 ?06:49
bobo37773TJ-: I'm sure he'll be fine. Or we'll see him again haha06:49
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scarleoZenexer, chown: cannot access `.gvfs': Permission denied, and that is with root :/06:51
ZenexerO.o06:51
ZenexerSome sort of corruption, I suppose.06:51
scarleoHow did this even happen?06:51
tao_hi does anyone have a windows VM and would kindly run a exe for me? i need the sys and inf file from it. Its a wifi driver06:51
scarleoyeah, guess so06:51
tao_i tried using unzip, cabextract and unshield they do not work06:52
ZenexerI'm no expert on disk recovery, but see what you can run for disk checks.06:52
scarleotrying reboot and forcefsck06:52
ZenexerIf it's just a messed up permission issue, something basic should catch it.06:52
bobo37773tao_: Where's the file?06:52
ZenexerThere was a specific option with fsck that would be liable to fix that, and I'm blanking out on what it was06:53
scarleoZenexer, I also have a lot of files in home created  "0 Jul" ??06:53
tao_bobo37773,  http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/license.php?sn=500006:53
ZenexerSounds like it could be a bad disk, then.  Check the SMART status.06:53
tao_bobo37773, you can give some fake name + email06:54
bobo37773tao_: May take a second06:54
tao_sweet, thanks a bunch06:54
TJ-bobo37773: The support hardware page for the release installation instructions is a bit disingenuous on this: "Nearly all x86-based (IA-32) processors still in use in personal computers are supported, including all varieties of Intel's "Pentium" series. This also includes 32-bit AMD and VIA (former Cyrix) processors, and processors like the Athlon XP and Intel P4 Xeon. "06:55
sikanderkhanHi! I just registered a proposal on Stack Exchange for a site like askubuntu for Python. Anyone interested please join...The link is: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43078/askpython?referrer=sggk-4wSDDWEQp6oQS-FHg206:55
bobo37773TJ-: Yeah, I have no clue. Never used a pae kernel before.06:58
bobo37773tao_: Am I going to have to have winrar for this thing or is it self extracting?06:59
TJ-bobo37773: it was standard in the server variants for many years06:59
tao_bobo37773,  hopefully its self extracting06:59
bobo37773TJ-: I heard about it a long time ago but never needed to use it personally.06:59
tao_I am not sure, let me try 7zip06:59
bobo37773tao_: Guess we'll see.07:00
bobo37773tao_: How big is this file anyways?07:00
taipresapt-get install qemu-arm-static not working but is listed here http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/lucid/universe/updates/qemu-arm-static07:01
taipresso confused07:01
tao_30mb07:02
tao_bobo37773,  its around 30 mb07:02
bobo37773tao_: ah okay we're getting close then. about 10 to go07:03
TJ-Scary isn't it? 30MB for a driver!07:04
bobo37773Right? What the heck is this thing hahaha07:04
armdaleMaccer:fyi,  turned out the problem was the drive being NTFS - couldn't change permissions while mounted. unmounted the drive, edited drive's umask in fstab now it's all good . itunes server up and running  :)07:04
TJ-It's all the MS installer and bloatware crud they stick in those packages as so-called "value-add"07:04
sikanderkhanHi! I just registered a proposal on Stack Exchange for a site like askubuntu for Python. Anyone interested please join...The link is: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43078/askpython?referrer=sggk-4wSDDWEQp6oQS-FHg207:05
tao_bobo37773,  sorry didn't mean to cause so much trouble, i didn't know your internet connection is slow07:05
DJonessileht: Please don't advertise in the channel07:05
DJonessikanderkhan: That was for you, sorry sileht07:06
silehtDJones, :)07:06
bobo37773tao_: It's okay. Guess I need winrar too though07:06
TJ-I have the RAlink exe open in wine now - which files do you want?07:07
sikanderkhanDjones: I am not advertising....:)07:07
caixais there anyway i can monitor what is stressing my graphics card?07:07
caixait goes from 33c to 45c randomly07:07
sikanderkhanAnyone interested07:07
dragecHi all. I have new HP8560W notebook with AMD chipset. Ubuntu installation seems impossible :((07:08
bobo37773tao_: Need to install this thing or what?07:08
vasa1quit07:08
GorkaMusichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9fS1rAU9s&feature=colike espero que os guste con el corazon07:08
vasa1exit07:08
dragecAfter the installation, there's only right half of the screen visible, no icons, no nothing, just a purple background.07:09
trimetavasa1: If you're trying to leave the channel, type "/part" (just the bit in the quotation marks, but include the slash).07:09
dragecLeft half of the screen is black07:09
Snowiecaixa, i dont think 45c is anything to worry about07:09
TJ-tao: which files, or which info, do you require from the RAlink ?07:09
tao_bobo37773,  can you just db click, i am hoping its a self extracting archive07:09
tao_if it is not then don't worry about it07:09
caixaSnowie, i know, but random 10c+ spikes arent normal for desktop use... dont have this issue in windows07:10
bobo37773tao_: It's not. But, TJ- Has the exe oped up already. Tell TJ- What you want.07:10
caixai think it may be compiz and was wondering if i could monitor it anyway07:11
tao_TJ-, could i get the inf and sys file07:12
TJ-tao_: This could be a problem. The .inf is there... but its binary!07:12
TJ-tao_: Ahhh OK, looking at it, it's encoded as UTF-16 ... hmmm! how to read that as text!07:13
tao_TJ, its ok, is there also a bin file?07:13
tao_or bin files?07:13
caixadoes lm-sensors give a temp readout for GPU?07:14
semitones_teahellp! xorg is taking 50% of my 800mhz cpu?  how can i restart it07:14
ste89ciao07:15
ste89list07:15
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ubottuste89: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».07:15
TJ-tao_: bobo37773 I like Linux! there's utils to convert these files07:15
bobo37773TJ-: Yeah. There's all kinds of interesting things you can do in GNU07:16
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semitones_teaif i kill the Xrg proccess will it regenerate itself?07:17
scarleoZenexer, ghostchick I did a forcefsck and everything is back to normal with my .gvfs folder :)07:17
semitones_teaXorg07:17
bobo37773semitones_tea: Depends. If you want to unload X just log out and back in or restart your computer07:17
tao_Tj huh i am not sure if that is necessary, i am just trying to use it with ndiswrapper07:17
Zenexerscarleo: Yay!  Now double-check the SMART status to make sure your hard drive isn't about to die on you.07:18
semitones_teabobo37773: is there a way to just restart it so i don't have to close the programs i have open? like when you restart unity by killing it07:18
Pessimist!manual07:18
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/07:18
scarleoZenexer, it's fine, already checked, everything is green07:18
bobo37773semitones_tea: You can definitely do it like you said though (I have done it myself a few times). Just drop into a tty and kill the process.07:18
semitones_teabobo37773: and it willjust regenerate? cool07:18
Zenexerscarleo: Awesome.  Might've just been a power outage or something.07:18
bobo37773semitones_tea: Kill X without closing applications? Not sure if that is possible. It may regenerate, it may not. Pretty sure it's your display manager that would handle that stuff not X itself07:19
TJ-tao_: I'm just pushing the .sys file up to my server and still working on decrypting the inf07:19
xrfanghi, can Ubuntu support memory hotplug under VMware ESXi07:19
scarleoZenexer, I had the laptop running this night to complete a backup, might have something to do with that07:19
ZenexerThat shouldn't do it, but who knows07:20
Zenexerxrfang: I *think* I recall reading that it can, but don't take my word for that.07:20
semmmitones!ping07:21
M4rc3lpong!07:21
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...07:21
semmmitonesmaking sure i'm still on the internet, thanks07:21
bobo37773tao_: Are you absolutely sure there is not already firmware for your device?07:21
tao_TJ-, ok thanks07:21
tao_bobo37773, yeah i tried using the rt2800pci module, it does not work07:22
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tao_i can see the access point but never able to connect07:22
bobo37773semmmitones: ubottu is a bot in case you didn't know07:22
taipreslet me just say ubuntu team not updating repos for older versions is lame07:22
taipresvery very very lame07:23
tao_bobo37773,  i am trying ndiswrapper as last resort07:23
Zenexertaipres: Thanks for volunteering :)07:23
tao_bobo37773, i saw some people posting the same problem but no real solution07:23
MonkeyDusttaipres  did you have a support question?07:23
bobo37773tao_: So you can scan for access points and see them but you cannot associate? Did you try changing the encryption type on the router to isolate that as a possible issue?07:23
MonkeyDusttaipres  when releases are !EOL, their repos are no longer updated, that is correct07:24
tao_bobo37773,  actually no, i just had it on wpa, never tried wep07:24
taipresMonkeyDust just saying you guys want ubuntu to be taken serious yet you don't even update repos, you essentially abandon majority of your users and force them to get latest ubunut07:24
bobo37773tao_: At least you would be able to make sure that wasn't an issue07:24
taipresthat's not reliable and causes many issues being new07:24
taipresthat's not the way imho07:24
Zenexertaipres: Windows XP is !EOL :o07:25
taipreslast few version of ubunut at the very least should have full access to latest repo07:25
ZenexerIn other words, not to be updated07:25
taipreswindows xp doesn't have this problem, they release service packs07:25
ZenexerNo they don't07:25
ZenexerNot anymore07:25
taipresyes they do07:25
MonkeyDusttaipres  no rants here, please07:25
taipresin fact they released 3.07:25
ZenexerIt wasn't EOL07:25
bobo37773taipres: Just use a rolling release distro or update yours to a newer version.07:26
ZenexerUbuntu LTS releases are like XP07:26
tao_bobo37773,  yeah i should try that. but i should get the file from TJ- also, since he is doing so much work on that07:26
ZenexerThey last several years and are updated for that timeframe07:26
taipresxp is heavily used thats why microsoft extended support till 201407:26
taipresI think it's 201407:26
ZenexerXP support has already been dropped07:26
bobo37773GNU != Windows so who cares07:26
taipresanyway my point is this, ubuntu doesn't change that much that past distros shouldn't have access to latest repo, but i'll look into rolling release, thanks07:27
taipresand I appreciate your guys hard work07:27
Zenexertaipres: LTS is what you want07:27
MonkeyDusttaipres  not here please, this is the support channel07:27
taipresbobo majority of the world cares07:27
taipresmost your users i'd wager are ex or current win users as well07:27
hateball!ot07:27
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:27
taipresMonkey i asked a support question07:27
Zenexertaipres: I'd personally appreciate you representing yourself and only yourself.  Do you know what an LTS release is?07:27
L3toptaipres: You don't understand. It is ok. If you want to wander to #off-topic... I will explain it to you.07:27
taipreswhat don't i understand?07:28
bobo37773taipres: About the relationship between GNU and Windows? I don't. At all. I don't use Windows for anything. So it does not affect me at all.07:28
L3topits in #off-topic waiting for you07:28
hateball!lts07:28
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)07:28
taipreswhat does support mean, latest repo access?07:29
ZenexerThere you go, taipres :)07:29
ZenexerPerfect solution.07:29
ZenexerSo someone--a lot of someones--agree with you!07:29
L3topsecurity updates... primarily.07:29
taipresl3top yeah that's not my focus but ok07:29
L3topof course not. You are a windows user.07:30
L3topit goes without saying.07:30
ZenexerHey now07:30
xrfangZenexer, I just tried with 10.04, although esx gave it more memory, it is not recognized until reboot07:30
taipresi'm a multi-os user who spends a lot of time in ssh, so please watch your tone07:30
taipresthanks07:30
L3topthat is why there is a multi billion dollar anti-virus industry. Again. this is off topic07:30
Zenexerxrfang: I think you need a certain package; do a regex for esx07:31
ZenexerThere are a bunch of vm packages07:31
taipresbecause macs don't get viruses, or linux for that matter? horrible reasoning imho, but thanks for the help i'll look at rolling release07:31
taipreshave a nice day07:31
bobo37773taipres: No it doesn't mean that. If you want latest packages all the time forever then you should use gentoo or arch or I think debian has a rolling release I don't remember. Ubuntu is cyclic. If you want to always have the newer package versions then you should install the new release that comes out every six months or whatever it is now.07:31
tao_TJ-,  hey can i grab the files off of you? i am going to sleep soon. i will work on decoding the binary later if needed07:31
taipresbobo the 6 months thing won't work and i feel that's unreasonable to need to do that07:32
ZenexerWill you guys leave him alone, lol07:32
ZenexerWhat do you think you're going to achieve?07:32
TJ-tao_: Sure, had a couple fo problems with forgetting to allow public access to the server! here: http://iam.tj/files/07:32
TJ-tao_: I've still not converted the .inf though, so you get it as it is!07:32
tao_TJ-, its good, you helped me so much!07:32
taipresnew version of anything tends to cause issues, whether it be install issues, upgrade, whatever, so hopefully ubuntu team takes another look at this issue07:33
TJ-tao_: don't pull the .sys yet, it hasn't finished uploading07:33
taipresthanks for the time gentlemen sorry if i installed anyone07:33
TJ-tao_: OK, it's done, you can grab them now07:33
bobo37773taipres: I'm not installed :p Take care07:33
tao_yeah just got it, TJ- thanks again!!!07:33
TJ-tao_: rt2860.inf: Little-endian UTF-16 Unicode text, with CRLF line terminators07:34
tao_are you working right now? or already off07:34
ZenexerI was installed a long time ago.07:34
tao_TJ-,  oh so you got it decoded07:34
ZenexerThis was a highly controversial move.07:34
TJ-tao_: No, that's what it is now... we need to convert that to UTF807:34
ZenexerUTF16 ftw07:35
tao_TJ-, i just opened in firefox, you can see it LOL07:35
TJ-tao_: done it. I used: iconv -f UTF-16 -t "UTF-8 rt2860.inf"07:35
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ZenexerTJ-: That whole bit goes in quotes like that?07:36
ZenexerI would've thought it'd be without the quotes.07:36
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TJ-Zenexer: yurg! don't know how that got like that, thanks for spotting it... it should be: "iconv -f UTF-16 -t UTF-8 rt2860.inf >rt2860.UTF8.inf"07:38
diwates07:38
bobo37773diwa: See you there07:38
ZenexerMuch prettier, lol07:38
ZenexerRestart time!07:39
tao_sweet that iconv worked perfectly07:40
TJ-tao_: Good luck, hope that solves your issue with the AP07:40
tao_TJ-, diwa what is the difference between > and tee07:41
tao_TJ- how did you figure out the encoding of that file?07:41
TJ-tao_: ">" redirect output from stdout to the file named07:41
diwaora ngerti aku, mbuh07:41
TJ-tao_: Linux has the "file" utility that will tell you the format of most files just do "file <path/to/file>"07:41
tao_TJ-, ok thanks for the tips, i used | tee -a file.inf but > would have been a lot easier07:42
tao_for some reason i kept on thinking > was only on windows07:42
nopcodehey07:43
TJ-tao_: and faster than 'tee' for very large files since the text doesn't have to go to the (slow) terminal as well07:43
nopcodei've put lucid-backports in my sources.list but it seems to be ignored07:43
TJ-tao_: ">" is a main-stay on Unixes07:43
nopcodepackages are still "already current version"07:43
tao_TJ-, bobo37773 thanks for all the help : )07:44
TJ-nopcode: I presume you did "sudo apt-get update" after adding the repo?07:44
tao_9907:44
nopcodeTJ-: yeah07:44
TJ-nopcode: You check what's available using "apt-cache policy <package-name>"07:44
CandlehawkHello, I have a minor issue. Should I just link to the forum thread, or should I describe the issue?07:44
bobo37773tao_: No problem. Hope you sort out your problem. I still think finding out what is wrong with the inline firmware is a better solution though07:45
bobo37773Candlehawk: Links are good07:45
Candlehawkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12161744#post1216174407:45
ZenexerCandlehawk: I'd do both.07:45
nopcodeTJ-: ok. not even something like nginx or apache2 seems to be available from backports07:45
nopcodeTJ-: that cant be right07:45
CandlehawkOk, so basicly to install 12.04 I had to use nomodeset on the install boot. Display settings is claiming my monitor is a laptop, I am on a desktop with two monitors. Display will not detect my other monitor.07:46
CandlehawkI have tried both the post-releace and default driver.07:46
CandlehawkBoth in 11.10 and many distros before the other monitor has worked right out of the box.07:47
bobo37773Candlehawk: If you open nvidia-settings application does the second monitor show up?07:47
nopcodeTJ-: oh it seems there actually isnt that much07:47
Candlehawkbobo37773: Would that be a command or an application to search for in the Unity search?07:47
ElrondoHi07:48
Candlehawkbobo37773: Never mind, I need to stop asking questions that can be answered in less than 2 seconds on my part.07:48
bobo37773Candlehawk: Either should work. It is a gui application to set gui options for the proprietary video driver.07:48
bobo37773Candlehawk: Hahaha. No worries. We all had to start somewhere07:48
nopcodeso, i have this vserver in OpenVZ.. my hoster says version upgrade of ubuntu (currently lucid) are not possible and will hang the system07:48
nopcodeis that true?07:48
wamWhy is typing a 'R' in xterm a dead key? I'm wondering about this for years and it's impossible to search with google for it.07:49
ElrondoI've some problems with flash with youtube in fullscreen mode, stops and stuttering07:49
Elrondowith a Radeon 489007:49
ElrondoI don't have GPU accel in flash07:49
Elrondohow to solve this problem07:49
nopcodeflash is deprecated07:49
bobo37773nopcode: Not sure on the direct answer to your question but I have always done and recommended clean installs between release cycles.07:49
alexeyHi all! I'm trying to build my cmake based project (I've migrated it from qmake). So I have a problem with include paths. My projects uses common sources (they were controlled by *.pri file when I used to use qmake). I've made *.cmake equivalent to them. All was good but common sources are in parent dir of course. And moc files from them going in strange CMake dir (something like that: __/__/3rdparty/qtpropertybrowser/src/moc_qttreepropertybrowser.cxx. Whe07:49
alexeyre each __/ means ../ I think). Finally, here is my question: How I can in "right" and portable way add this moc files dir to include path from cmake?07:49
geirhawam: Sounds like you might have a readline binding for R07:49
Elrondoyes but I need it with youtube07:50
Candlehawkbobo37773: Problem is, I haven't 'started'. I swear that that didn't show up last time, which may be the case, or I could have been mistaken as last time I futsed with it, the time was as late as it is now for me (3:49) I'll be sure to come back if it doesn't work, but I think we got it07:50
MonkeyDustnopcode  for now, you can't upgrade directly to 12.04, that is correct, you'll have to wait until 12.04.1, on august 23, then it will be possible07:50
CandlehawkTHanks everyone!!07:50
ElrondoCan I use GPU accel with gnash07:50
geirhawam: bind -p | grep R07:50
Elrondoif flash is deprecated07:50
bobo37773Candlehawk: Welcome07:50
satishhi07:50
nopcodeMonkeyDust: even within openvz?07:50
TJ-nopcode: OpenVZ is a container-based Virtual Machine so what you run is what's on the host07:50
nopcodeTJ-: yeah i know. so the upgrade mechanism cant do stuff like replacing the kernel image.07:51
bobo37773Flash works fine for me.07:51
ZenexerCould someone do me a huge favor?  nvidia blocks Lynx, and I can't get on X.  Could someone google "nvidia linux" and give me the download link to the older of the two AMD64 drivers?07:51
Elrondoand ? ....07:52
__Hackuin__Hi guy's.07:52
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nopcodeso it seems the backports are quite sparse07:52
bobo37773Zenexer: nvidia blocks lynx? How could that even be possible. Are you in a tty or inside X?07:52
nopcodeso what can i do? install everything from source?07:52
Zenexertty07:52
ZenexerThey give 403 errors07:52
ElrondoI use fglrx and tested it, software rendering only07:52
ZenexerWorked fine from Chromium and Firefox07:52
Guest8810hi07:53
ZenexerElrondo: Too late.  I already installed one of the nvidia drivers, with no way to uninstall it.07:53
Guest8810I have ubuntu server 12.04 LTS and LVM on raid 107:53
Guest8810when i upgrade OS get this info http://paste.debian.net/183008/07:53
Elrondothat's easy nvidia to get flash works fine07:53
Zenexer?07:53
bobo37773Zenexer: Weird. So are you trying to find a ppa or something? Wouldn't the older one be in your repos?07:54
Guest8810anyone know why have errors of lvm?07:54
Elrondothat's easy to get flash fine with nvidia card07:54
TJ-Guest8810: ouch!07:54
Elrondobut not with an ATI07:54
Zenexerbobo37773: The one in the repos is too new.  They just downgraded the one on the site.07:54
ZenexerElrondo: Flash is the least of my issues.07:54
bobo37773Zenexer: Oh you built from source and now cannot uninstall? I can walk you through that if you want. Anyways which driver version do you want?07:55
Guest8810TJ-: dont understand07:55
TJ-Guest8810: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/87678307:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 452350 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #876783 Unknown LVM metadata header" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:55
Zenexer295.5907:55
ZenexerI'm pretty sure that's what I was on (and it was working)07:55
walentUbuntu messes up my wifi after downloading something thru firefox07:55
Zenexerwalent: something as in anything?07:56
bobo37773Zenexer: x86 or amd64? It pointed me to x8607:56
walentyes07:56
Zenexeramd6407:56
TJ-Guest8810: See comment #19 of this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/45235007:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 452350 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Unknown LVM metadata header" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:56
Zenexerwalent: What happens?07:56
Guest8810TJ-: ok thanks ...so its seriosly bug? I can obly wait for updates?07:56
ZenexerJust disconnects?07:56
walentNoone can use wifi till i restart router again07:56
walentIt connects just doesn't work07:56
Zenexer...that's an issue with your router, then.07:57
walentHow can that be?07:57
walentOnly happens on ubuntu07:57
ZenexerRouters are computers07:57
ZenexerThey have bugs07:57
ZenexerUbuntu has its own unique way of connecting and using WiFi07:57
walent:/07:58
ZenexerIt might trigger bugs that Windows might not07:58
ZenexerAnd vice versa07:58
TJ-Guest8810: As I read the error reports are not fatal and update-grub succeeds; it's just that its' probing of the devices is getting confused07:58
ZenexerThough I suspect that your router is likely overheating.07:58
Guest8810TJ-: "dd"?? from where to where? and whats mean "hexedit"? never do it07:58
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walentIf it's not hot to touch it's ok?07:59
bobo37773Zenexer: Is this it ? -> wget 'http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.59/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.59.run'07:59
ZenexerIt'd be relatively warm on top if it were overheating07:59
ZenexerYeah, that looks like it; thanks07:59
bobo37773Welcome07:59
walentMaybe it is a BIT warm08:00
bobo37773Zenexer: Oh, do you know how to uninstall from source?08:00
walentBut...08:00
TJ-Guest8810: OK, I'd suggest not touching it since that comment is aimed at experts. You're OK to ignore the warning for now I believe08:00
walentZenexer: how come downloading with ubuntu software center works then08:00
TJ-walent: Try Googling for your router's model number and "overheating"08:01
TJ-walent: It could be a bug in the router firmware... it shouldn't fail like that08:01
Zenexerwalent: I honestly have no idea; you're right in that seems very oddly correlated.08:01
nardevis there any way to trace back history of certain package, for example lshw?08:02
Zenexerin that it*08:02
Guest8810TJ-: ok thanks ... I woudl like to know... you think ubuntu server is ok for server? I know thah is from debian but its from debian sid... (unstable) so you think its not so newest os for servere? debian stable will be better? woudl like to know of your opinion08:02
ZenexerIf it's not overheating, you're just triggering some sort of bug.08:02
bobo37773walent: I have had similar issues before. Totally get it. I usually just unplug and plug the router08:02
TJ-Guest8810: I run Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 on my servers08:02
ZenexerYou could try updating the firmware, walent, but I rarely have any luck with that fixing problems.08:03
Guest8810TJ-: in your company or at home?08:03
TJ-Guest8810: both08:03
walenti'll try something.. but it's a telecom company branded router, i doubt there's a firmware update08:03
bobo37773walent: Here is one thing that can mess you up: If you have android devices connected to yoru router then make sure the router is not assigning multiple ip addresses to the same device08:03
MonkeyDustGuest8810  ubuntu server is a business product, obviously it is stable08:03
walentOh?08:03
TJ-bobo37773: That shouldn't take down the entire router though08:04
ZenexerThat'll just mess up some ARP stuff08:04
TJ-bobo37773: At most, the single PC would get confused08:04
bobo37773walent: If you do run into that issue then try assigning a static ip address to the device.08:05
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bobo37773TJ-: For some reason some devices cannot connect back. Sounds crazy but true I assure you08:05
walentI'll try something from all the advices, thanks everyone08:05
TJ-bobo37773: In those cases I just clear the ARP cache08:05
bobo37773TJ-: Could be that my router is getting dated though too08:05
bobo37773TJ-: The arp cache of the router itself?08:06
walentbobo37773: That isn't the case, unfortunately08:06
chuckok back08:06
Guest8810mhmm i have one question ...  what mean this option of install ubuntu server "... MAASS server " i dont remember at the moment full label but its on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and its second position. I was looking info about it but dont found any simply information about it... for example how proces of instalation is going after choise this option08:07
ZenexerWindows has its own DHCP mechanisms for releasing DHCP leases.  I'm unsure why other OSes don't use similar methods.  But I'm unsure that a non-Windows DHCP server will even understand the unusual codes.08:07
TJ-bobo37773: yes. Obviously the router is Linux!08:07
bobo37773walent: Try assigning static ip addresses to the devices in question and rebooting the router. That might work.08:07
bobo37773TJ-: How to empty the arp cache of the router though? I don't think mine has this feature.08:07
TJ-Guest8810: MAAS Metal As A Service08:08
ZenexerI don't think the router is much of anything... just a typical router.08:08
walentbobo37773: I'll try, but i'm not sure how to do that on android or ubuntu08:08
ZenexerNot Linux, unless it happens to be one of those Linux-in-a-box ones.08:08
bobo37773Zenexer: Did you fix your driver thing?08:08
Zenexerbobo37773: We'll find out in a few seconds, lol08:08
wamgeirha: indeed - "R": self-insert08:08
ZenexerIt's running08:08
wamgeirha: bash, that is.08:08
wamgeirha: /me will read about that. Thanks08:09
bobo37773walent: Nothing to do on Ubuntu ir android. You assign static ip addresses for your mac addresses on the router itself.08:09
TJ-bobo37773: "ip -ss neigh flush all"08:09
bobo37773Zenexer: Ah. Compile time hahahaha08:09
ZenexerYup.08:09
karloMorning! SInce i can't get any help from Mint crew i hope u guys can help me. During installation i probably did something wrong with partitioning as disk utility is showing another 8.2gb extended partition along with 8.2gb swap with error msg that it's misaligned by 1024 bytes? what did i do wrong and how fix it? Thanks in advance!08:10
ZenexerActually, I don't believe it's compiling.08:10
ZenexerI believe it's just unpackaging.08:10
bobo37773Zenexer: Oh that's right. Closed source.08:10
TJ-karlo: No, that's perfectly fine.08:10
ZenexerThat, and I don't have any compilers on here yet. :P08:10
karloso there's nothing to be worried about?08:10
bobo37773Zenexer: Well, probably still have to build a module08:10
bobo37773TJ-: Interesting08:11
TJ-karlo: The Extended Partition contains the swap... so obviously it has to be as big as, if not bigger, than the swap partition inside it08:11
ZenexerDamn partition madness...08:11
bobo37773Zenexer: Partition issues?08:12
karloSorry but i'm new to all this. Why is utility reading it as error/misaligned?08:12
TJ-karlo: As to the misaligned message. That's a left-over from when disks were addressed using Cylinders, Heads, and Sectors and we tried to ensure that each partition started at the beginning of a track. Now we use Logical Block Addressing (LBA) the OS has no concept of where the heads of the disk are08:12
bobo37773TJ-: Isn't that just on the computer end? Is that what you meant (referring to the ip command)?08:12
ZenexerYeah, read up :P08:12
ZenexerNot my partition issues08:13
ZenexerSomeone else08:13
TJ-karlo: But the tools still show the warning08:13
bobo37773Ah gotcha08:13
TJ-bobo37773: On any Linux based device ... router or PC, doesn't matter08:13
ZenexerAs for my nvidia issue: the installer just spewed out a ton of errors about restoring files08:13
TJ-Zenexer: did you run the output via 'tee' so we can look at them?08:13
karloOk, so i should move on and forged about it? i was about to do another fresh install. wish ubuntu would work without issues :(08:14
TJ-karlo: That's just a general Unix/Linux tool warning. Nothing specific to Ubuntu.08:14
ZenexerTJ-: I'm working entirely in the console.  First off, it was a GUI-ish program; these were dialogs.  Second, I'd have no way to copy/paste them.08:14
TJ-Zenexer: "<some program> 2>&1 | tee build.log | pastebinit"  :p08:15
Zenexerpastebinit?08:15
bobo37773Zenexer: Do you still have the source code if the original install? The bad one?08:15
Zenexerbobo37773: It wasn't source code.08:15
ZenexerSame idea.08:16
bobo37773Zenexer: Oh, I mean the original installer. Can't you uninstall it from the original .run crap08:16
TJ-Zenexer: If it's the nvidia .run installer, there are command line options you can pass to it to make it generate a complete log08:16
ZenexerIt's supposed to be able to uninstall itself, but it doesn't work.08:16
TJ-Zenexer: I think you run it with "--help"08:16
ZenexerTJ-: Ah08:16
TJ-Zenexer: those command line options should give you some options for cleaning up the mess too, by forcing some things to happen08:17
CommaCrazyhey all, question, I have a machine that I am trying to access remotely via vnc. It works just fine but when I restart the machine I can not log into it remotely because on the machine itself the user is not selected (I'm guessing that that is the problem). Is there a command that I execute or is there a way to set it up so that it selects the user right away so that I could enter remotely trough vnc right away08:17
karloMight give another shot at U 12.04. Had several issues with fans spinning randomly and lappy (acer 5750g) going quite warm. Disabled optimus on second attemept and heat was gone but annoying issue with went was still there while in win7 which was preinstalled and in mint 13 it's dead silent while browsing and in idle.08:17
ZenexerWell, I'm going to restart to see if it worked in the least bit.08:18
bobo37773I'm outta here. Take care everyone08:19
ZenexerDid not work.08:20
ZenexerLet's explore the command line options.08:20
geirhawam: self-insert means R should just produce itself (an R), so that's not where your problem lies08:21
wamgeirha: well, "R" is the only letter there08:22
wamwrong08:22
wamgeirha: you're right08:22
geirhawam: And this only happens terminal emulators, like gnome-terminal?08:23
wamgeirha: gnome terminal works normally.08:23
wamgeirha: I'm using zsh usually08:23
geirhawam: oh, only xterm?08:23
wamgeirha: correct08:23
wamalthough gnome-terminal also runs zsh.08:24
jychello, my middle mouse button has recently stopped working (it doesn't even register in xev) - is there any way to fix this?08:24
geirhawam: Can you reproduce it with uxterm?08:24
wamgeirha: no08:24
wamgeirha: uxterm works08:25
geirhawam: xterm doesn't support multibyte character sets like utf8, so maybe it's got something to do with that08:25
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theadmin!test08:34
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )08:34
theadminOh good, I thought I was disconnected... Well this is a dead channel08:34
ZenexerI'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu08:35
ZenexerI think I bricked it.08:35
extrasolarSup08:40
spanglercan anyone help with permission denied issue with apache creating folders with php mkdir? root folder owned by www-data and drwxrwxrwx08:42
extrasolarneed write access?08:42
W4spExtracting  #ubuntu.freenode.log                                      Failed08:42
W4spExtracting  W4sp.freenode.log                                         Failed08:42
W4sp2 Failed08:42
spangleryes08:43
Dr_Manhattanim using the nvidia driver and I wanted to know where I set the resolution for console (no gui) mode?08:43
agentgasmaskDr_Manhattan: like on a tty (ctrl-alt-F1 and such)?08:44
agentgasmaskDr_Manhattan: There are kernal line options on boot. google for that. I think the prfix is vga=blablabla08:45
Dr_Manhattanagentgasmask, yes08:45
Dr_Manhattanagentgasmask, does that work with the nvidia driver?08:45
madduckhttp://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Remote_Access_to_the_Ubuntu_11.04_Unity_Desktop says that to enable the remote desktop, I need to select the 'remote desktop' button in the internet and network category of system settings08:45
madduckbut there is no such button on my system…08:46
extrasolardoes this answer your question08:46
extrasolarhttp://superuser.com/questions/178641/ubuntu-10-04-console-resolution08:46
ElrondoI've installed Gnash but it dosen't detect any GPU support08:46
Dr_Manhattanextrasolar, I will try that, thank you08:46
ElrondoI use fglrx08:46
Elrondohow to use GPU VAAPI support in gnash08:47
agentgasmaskDr_Manhattan: I've done it on systems with nvidia cards in them. I think that tty is pushed up against the frame buffer, wich is a generic driver so to speak. Correct me if I'm wrong fellas.08:47
macer1is there some app to read qr codes from webcam?08:47
extrasolarwhat do you mean how do use?08:47
extrasolarmacer1 I know of an online one08:48
macer1extrasolar: link it :P08:48
extrasolarmacer1 here's some actual native software http://askubuntu.com/questions/22871/software-to-read-a-qr-code08:48
subdesignif i ps aux memcached several times , why i get always different pid ?08:49
spanglerlosing will to live08:49
extrasolarhttp://www.pcgeekblog.com/2011/02/how-to-read-qr-codes-using-your-webcam.html08:49
extrasolarhttp://miniqr.com/reader.php/08:49
extrasolarspanger what's up?08:49
macer1it would be awesome to have this in gnome/kde webcam photo makers :D08:49
spanglercant resolve this permissions issue08:49
macer1i.e. in Cheese08:49
extrasolarwhat have you tried08:49
extrasolardid you try chmod?08:50
spanglerfolder is owned by www-data (apache process)08:50
extrasolarusing the terminal08:50
spanglerived chmod';ed to 777!08:50
spanglerbut apache still denied creating folded08:50
extrasolarhave you tried #apache?08:51
spanglerthis is with recursive folder creation08:51
spanglerif i need folder abc/def/ghi the first folder is OK but subfolders denied08:51
spanglerthis is not apache issue, it works on other OS08:51
extrasolarcan you make the folders manually08:52
spangleri can with sudo08:52
extrasolaris apache open in root?08:52
spanglerand one at a time, but not deeper08:52
spanglerthe problem is if i want to create a tree that does not exist, the first folder is ok but deeper get denied08:53
spanglerso if i want to mkdir on abc/123/wer08:53
spanglerabc gets created but 123 is perm denied08:54
spanglereven though root folder is owned by apache process08:54
Dr_Manhattanok, now how on earth do I boot up in console mode? This changes from version to version!08:54
extrasolaryou cannot make a directory tree like that08:54
* Dr_Manhattan bursts into tears08:54
spangleryou can - php mkdir function08:54
extrasolarI see08:55
vivekhi08:55
vivekcan someone tell me08:55
extrasolarDr_Manhattan what do you mean?08:55
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extrasolarwhen you turn on the computer it goes straight to a terminal?08:55
Dr_Manhattanextrasolar, I want to boot up without a gui08:55
Dr_Manhattanyou know, old school linux stule08:55
extrasolarErrrr you can08:55
spanglerthanks for trying , l8rs08:55
extrasolarboot as level 2 I guess08:56
extrasolarWhy don't you just turn on the computer08:56
Dr_Manhattanare we back to /etc/inittab?08:56
extrasolarand press ctrl+alt+f108:56
extrasolarwe are yes08:56
Dr_ManhattanNoes08:56
Dr_Manhattanwaste of resources08:56
extrasolarAre you using ubuntu minimal?08:56
extrasolarhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/08:57
W4spDr_Manhattan: I understand from your your previous messages that you do not want to have any graphical user interface, is that correct?08:57
W4spextrasolar: PMFJI.08:57
Dr_ManhattanW4sp, I want it installed but I wont use it on the box directly08:57
extrasolaretc/default/grub08:57
extrasolarGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=08:58
extrasolarthen08:58
extrasolarsudo update-grub08:58
Dr_ManhattanI'll use x apps via an x server and an ssh connection08:58
Dr_Manhattansweet08:58
extrasolarif you want to boot into the gui ust press e08:58
Dr_Manhattanwell thats convenient08:58
W4spgreat, extrasolar.08:58
extrasolarit worked on ubuntu server once I installed it to ubuntu desktop08:59
extrasolarblah08:59
extrasolarI mean It worked on ubuntu server08:59
extrasolarwhen I installed a gui and just wanted to go to a terminal08:59
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^BARrE|^how do i install sdl09:06
^BARrE|^fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory09:06
extrasolarwhat are you trying to do?09:07
extrasolarI guess sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian09:07
extrasolarhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13676509:07
^BARrE|^installing a dosbox ipxnet work server09:07
extrasolarlook here first09:08
extrasolarah09:08
KvaksA couple of years ago, using a 2TB "green" HDD in linux required that it'd be partitioned in a particular way to avoid extremely bad performance. Is this still the case?09:08
extrasolarhave you tested it?09:08
Dr_Manhattanhow do I allow a user to access the /dev/fb009:09
theadminKvaks: I don't think so... Partitioning shouldn't affect performance whatsoever.09:09
extrasolarthis sort of questions are probably better coming from you testing it and deciding09:09
Dr_Manhattanim not looking to chmod it every time09:09
Kvakstheadmin: These new (as of a couple of years ago, anyway) used a new block size that meant that (at the time) perfomance DID depend on partitioning details.09:10
KvaksThese new ...*HDDs*09:10
theadminDr_Manhattan: KERNEL=="fd0", MODE="0777", no?09:11
Dr_Manhattanum, no, I think I just need to add a user to the video group09:11
theadminOh, fb09:12
theadminI thought you said "fd0" which is a floppy drive09:12
theadminDr_Manhattan: Then yeah, I think that's the case09:12
^BARrE|^i still get the error09:13
Dr_Manhattanoh for christs sajke09:13
Kvakstheadmin: Found an answer: "The Linux kernel has had specific support for the alternate sector sizes and offsets used by WD Advanced Format disk drives since version 2.6.31". So I guess it's no longer necessary to partition in a particular way.09:13
Dr_Manhattanso of course useradd -g or -G doesn't work09:14
Dr_Manhattanso how do I add the user to group video09:14
theadminDr_Manhattan: sudo adduser youruser video09:14
Dr_Manhattanthank you09:15
Dr_Manhattanyay!09:15
theadminDr_Manhattan: Is it working?09:19
Dr_Manhattantheadmin, yes, thank you. aspect ratio of console mode hasn't changed though09:19
XL-Setiholly hell09:20
theadminDr_Manhattan: I think framebuffer stuff should be configured in GRUB or something, it's not user-specific09:20
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theadminDr_Manhattan: Might need to pass a kernel option. Or maybe tell your getty something.09:20
XL-Seti1564 members.. well why I am here09:20
Dr_Manhattanhmm09:20
savioin /proc/swaps they says dm-0 is swap partition09:21
saviobut in fstab they say /dev/hda7 is swap09:21
XL-SetiI have a problem installing gimp on ubuntu 11.04, may I post an image.09:21
theadminXL-Seti: Yes, use http://imgur.com or any image sharing site of your preference.09:21
XL-Setitheadmin, thankyou, Here is the issue, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/screenshotjfj.png/ now I think something in my sources is messed up, but I can not tell where09:22
^BARrE|^do i need to reset after installing sdl?09:22
^BARrE|^plz someone help me09:24
saviosdl?09:24
^BARrE|^ipxserver.h:23:25: fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory09:24
theadminXL-Seti: Hm... Please run the following in a !terminal: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install09:25
XL-Setiok09:25
savioanyone?09:26
Dr_Manhattanyeah console mode is stuck in 640x480 with the nvidia drivers. How sad09:26
Dr_Manhattanperhaps I ought to go back to nouveau09:26
^BARrE|^can anyone help me?09:26
luftikuss^BARrE|^: What is your problem?09:27
^BARrE|^trying to make a program but get this error09:27
^BARrE|^ipxserver.h:23:25: fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory09:27
timfrost^BARrE|^:  have you installed the build-depends for the package you are compiling?  The missing files will be in -dev packages.   Specifically 'apt-file search SDL_net.h' reports libsdl-net1.2-dev: /usr/include/SDL/SDL_net.h09:28
XL-Setitheadmin, well bugger me, I swear I had run those already but hey it worked. I used && and not ; between them09:28
^BARrE|^i installed some sdl but still didnt work09:28
XL-Setitheadmin, thankyou m809:28
theadminXL-Seti: Yay09:28
naftilos76hi, can a mosfet's temperature of 80 celsius be considered safe not because of excess thermal loss but due to poor thermal cooling. The one i am talking about is rated at a max of 175 celsius. Any suggestions? Will such conditions of 80 celsius limit the semi's lifespan?09:29
theadminXL-Seti: ; and && is about the same, by the way. Except "&&" means "only run the next command if the last one succeeded", ";" does the next one regardless.09:29
XL-Setitheadmin, I learnt something new09:30
luftikussnaftilos76: It is safe in the sense that you can operate this semiconductor for a very long time.09:30
XL-Setitheadmin, now I can move onto the other linux issues I have but I know you can't help me with wine09:31
theadminXL-Seti: Might be able *shrug*09:31
XL-Setitheadmin, thanks again, I will stick around for a bit09:31
theadminXL-Seti: PM me (wine is not a topic of this channel), though09:31
XL-Setitheadmin, trying to install 3dsmax9 or the latest09:31
luftikussnaftilos76: But the life(span) will be reduced compared to operating it at a lower temperature.09:31
ThinkT510!appdb | XL-Seti09:31
ubottuXL-Seti: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help09:31
naftilos76luftikuss: this is my basic concern. If such conditions limit its' lifespan then i must find other way to cool it down09:32
XL-Setithanks.09:32
luftikussnaftilos76: Not necessarily. This semiconductor may live for years.09:32
XL-Setitheadmin, ThinkT510 I have tried there, not much help sadly, I run projects on http://www.gtaforums.com/?showforum=265 so I need to be able to use 3dsmax myself.09:33
timfrost^BARrE|^:  does 'sudo apt-get install  libsdl-net1.2-dev' give you all the missing files for your compile?09:33
ThinkT510XL-Seti: #winehqq could help you better09:33
ThinkT510XL-Seti: #winehq could help you better09:33
theadminXL-Seti: Yes, try #winehq like ThinkT510 says09:34
roothello09:34
XL-Seti:)09:34
demon_hello everyone~09:34
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Guest87434i am a irc virgin09:34
ThinkT510!rootirc | Guest8743409:34
ubottuGuest87434: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.09:34
naftilos76luftikuss: my target is well over 8 years . I do not know whether that is possible given an average of 15 hrs per day operation09:34
XL-SetiGuest87207, You can get banned on some networks for logging in as root, services or admin.09:36
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MrUmlauthow do I encode "Non-ISO extended-ASCII English text" to UTF8 in a script? iconv says: conversion to `UFT8' is not supported.09:38
_ericccanyone have any experience with ubuntu 12.04 with a PPC version?09:38
ThinkT510!ppc | _ericcc09:39
ubottu_ericcc: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ09:39
luftikussnaftilos76: A semiconductor whose maximumjunction temperature is rated a 175°C and is operated at a junction temperature of 80°C may well live for 8 years when being operated 15 hours a day. It may. Failure due to elevated temperaures depend among other things on the care of the manufacture and purity of the semiconductor material.09:39
_ericccthanks09:39
Gr3mlinsup all, question bout java on ubuntu. anyone know how to install oracle-java 7?09:40
chuckyup09:41
chucklet me get the link09:41
theadminGr3mlin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_709:41
theadminchuck: Beat you to it :P09:41
Gr3mlinthanks both chuck  and theadmin  :)09:41
chuckGr3mlin: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html09:41
chuckhaha np09:41
Gr3mlinlol09:41
hackbandquick question: are there any serious performance implications by placing the /etc/hosts file on an NFS share?09:43
luftikussHow to use the WeeChat script iset.pl? :~$ sudo /usr/share/weechat/perl/iset.pl09:44
hackbandI'm guessing it will be cached for frequent accesses, but need to be sure :)09:44
luftikusssudo: /usr/share/weechat/perl/iset.pl: Befehl nicht gefunden09:44
chuckhmm09:44
luftikuss(Command not found)09:44
chuckja ich verstehe09:44
naftilos76luftikuss: thanks for the advice man09:44
chuckkein idee09:44
theadminluftikuss: Weechat's supposed to autoload scripts.09:46
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sikanderkhanhi09:50
yarohi, I have a problem my secondary hdd(with windows) is being discovered by Ubuntu, but Grub sees only hd0 no hd1, so I can't boot into windows09:51
yaroalso the bios doesn't see the secondary hdd(probably because the ssd is in cdrom bay)09:51
ducktypehi how can i check for missing files in installed packages with apt?09:51
ducktypei've deleted some files and i don't know which ones...09:52
ducktypei want to "repair" installed packeges, possible?09:52
yattai am not sure but if you apt-get install it again...09:53
alankiladucktype: you can try a program called debsums, if the md5 sums are there09:53
alankilayou can apt-get --purge remove it, and then install it again, which should restore even files deleted under /etc09:53
alankilabecause purge completely eliminates everything, even configuration09:53
theadminducktype: Try "apt-get -f install". I have no idea what that does, but that fixes a lot of problems with APT, might as well check for missing files.09:53
luftikusstheadmin: And how can I accomplish that WeeChat will autoload this script?09:54
alankilatheadmin: it doesn't help in this case. It allows apt to try correcting some dependency-related issues using some likely solution it thinks might fix them09:55
theadminluftikuss: Well, normally, scripts have to be executable. Is that the case?09:55
alankilatheadmin: so for instance if you have a partially configured package with a missing dependency on your system, apt-get -f works out that it needs to install these dependencies09:55
theadminalankila: I see.09:55
k1l_luftikuss: put them into the weechat folder or the plugins folder in the weechat folder in the /home ?09:56
k1l_luftikuss: i bet the documentation tells the right spot09:56
k1l_luftikuss: / bullgard6  http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_quickstart.de.html#plugins_scripts09:57
alankilaI regularly run debsums -c to check that I have all files installed, and debsums -ce to remind me what config files under /etc I have modified09:57
luftikusstheadmin: No. At least my mc does not show it as executable.09:57
theadminluftikuss: Well, chmod a+x it then.09:57
alankiladebsums isn't perfect though... I think that when applications change while installed and do not ship md5 lists for their files, it gets out of sync with reality.09:58
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usuario_NTNNNNNNNNNNNGMNGHHHHHLLLLHKHHKHKLHHL09:58
usuario_GVGGHÑH09:58
usuario_VVVV VBNVMN09:59
k1l_usuario_:   stop that09:59
justin__[11:59:28]justin@justinpc:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo apt-get -f install10:01
justin__Reading package lists... Done10:01
justin__Building dependency tree10:01
justin__Reading state information... Done10:01
justin__Correcting dependencies... Done10:01
justin__The following extra packages will be installed:10:01
FloodBot1justin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:01
root____2testing irssi.10:02
k1l_root____2: dont run irssi from the root user10:02
root____2I was thinking the same10:02
root____2Thanks you10:02
justin__http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139315/ -> please help10:03
DarkLobsterHi. When I connect(ssh) to another computer and upload files the files get username:username as owner, which is ok. But is it possible make another group the default instead of username? I'd like to have username:www-data, as I'm uploading files to the webserver on that computer.10:04
Dr_Willisjustin__: a summary if the problem nit just a paste. is a good idea10:05
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alankilaIs there a trick to forcing, say, apt-get to download a package that is already installed because I want to do a 'dpkg -i --force-confmiss' on the file?10:05
alankilaor do I really have to dig into the archives manually?10:05
justin__i think that paste explains itself but okay i installed wine 1.5 and now it just wont remove10:05
justin__if i try apt-get remove --purge wine* it asks me to apt-get -f install and if i apt-get -f install it gives me that paste10:06
Dr_Willisnot everyone has a web browser :)10:06
justin__theres always lynx @Dr_Willis10:06
chuckLynx is L33t10:07
chuckfastest webrowser ever...no pictures or pop ups, and stupid advertisement that starts playing in the background10:07
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Dr_Willistake me forever to get to a paste i may jnow nothing about.. is also an issue.. im sshing from my cell.10:08
Dr_Willisid check askubuntu.com about the carch 22 type apt problem. i recall sime trick10:10
ryancoleukhi - im trying to install the original-awk package which i need for MySQL to run. when i try install it i get the error "E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution)." - however when running this i get the error " subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 210:14
ryancoleukErrors were encountered while processing:10:14
ryancoleuk /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu8.1_i386.deb10:14
ryancoleukE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"10:14
ryancoleuki seem to be stuck in a loop - can anyone assist?10:14
Dr_Willislibc - is a critical lib. where is this awk package from?10:15
ryancoleukapt-get install original-awk10:15
ryancoleukbasically MySQL wont start and says it needs10:15
ryancoleuk "/etc/init.d/mysql: line 61: awk: command not found"10:16
Dr_Willisi wonder if you dont have some bad deb files downloaded10:16
ryancoleuk"/etc/init.d/mysql: line 86: logger: command not found"10:16
extrasolarreinstall mysql10:16
ryancoleukon other servers i've got with mysql running fine i can run the command awk and logger just fine10:16
ryancoleukapt-get install mysql ?10:16
extrasolarfrom the repos10:16
k1l_maybe some $PATH problem?10:16
extrasolarsudo apt-get install mysql-server I think10:17
ryancoleukok let me take a snapshot (as it's VM) and ahve a go10:17
extrasolarare you using ubuntu server or somehing?10:18
ryancoleukyeap10:18
Dr_Willishmm. sounds like there may be deeper issues. that error says a issue in the preinit scripts..10:18
ryancoleukwe had a HDD issue with this server10:18
ryancoleukand i had to run fsck10:18
ryancoleukthen this started10:18
Dr_Willisid also suggest cleaning out the cached .debs and redownloading them10:18
ryancoleuk(mysql not starting)10:18
Dr_Willischeck dmesg output also. could be hd issues still happening10:19
extrasolarright10:19
Dr_ManhattanI can't fine any way to get my framebuffer to change resolution with the proprietary nvidia driver10:21
^BARrE|^can anyone help me get windows share working?10:21
Dr_Manhattannothing works10:21
extrasolar^BARrE|^: what's the problem10:22
^BARrE|^i click on a shared windows folder and it says unable to mount share10:22
DarkLobsterHi. When I connect(ssh) to another computer and upload files the files get username:username as owner, which is ok. But is it possible make another group the default instead of username? I'd like to have username:www-data, as I'm uploading files to the webserver on that computer. (Yes, the ssh account is a www-data member)10:22
luftikussk1l_: I managed to load successfully the script weeget.py. I still don'tknow how to use it. http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WeeChat: "Möchte man Veränderungen an der Konfiguration durchführen, sollte das wesentlich komfortablere Skript iset.pl, genutzt werden." But how to use it?10:23
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Dr_Willisluftikuss: weechat had some good docs.. put in the proper .weechat/python/ dir then /python load weeget.py10:25
Dr_Willisthen /weeget help10:25
Dr_Willisi think.  let me look10:25
Dr_Willisjust /weeget ;)10:26
Dr_WillisThen look in the status window10:26
luftikussDr_Willis: '  weechat =!= | weeget: unknown action "help".'10:26
Dr_Willishelp is default action for it now it seems10:27
Dr_Willisweechat tip - tab completion works most everywhere in it10:27
k1l_/weeget list10:28
gokulHello I am getting this error while installing packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139329/10:28
k1l_and for the perl script i would make a perl/autoload subfolder in .weechat and put the perl scripts in it10:29
luftikussk1l_ , Dr_Willis : I've got it. --  Thank you very much for your help.10:29
Dr_Manhattanok im trying this with the nouveau driver but it doesn't seem to be able to open videos now10:29
Dr_Willisweechat takes a bit of learning. reread and reread the guides a few times ;)10:30
extrasolargokul After you get that error, try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error. Then try apt-get upgrade again, apt-get -f install back and forth until only the package that has the error is left.10:30
Dr_WillisDr_Manhattan:  you mean in X - no videos10:31
Dr_ManhattanI mean in console mode, no videos10:31
Dr_Manhattanwith -vo fbdev10:31
tushartesting irssi (but this time not on root)10:31
luftikussDr_Willis: I will. --  I am using this program for the first day today.10:31
Dr_Willisis the nvidea fb module loaded? checked out the fbset command?10:31
Dr_Manhattanit works with the nvidia driver, but I can't change the console resolution10:32
Dr_Willisframebuffer for video playback has some issues i recall.10:32
Dr_Manhattanis there another fb module I need to load when using nouveau?10:32
Dr_ManhattanI apologize I had no idea10:32
Dr_Willisno idea. framebuffer is a bit of a old school dinoasur10:32
extrasolarapology not accepted :P:10:32
Dr_Manhattanand I know of no other option of playing video in console10:33
* Dr_Manhattan bursts into mucusy tears10:33
Dr_Manhattanooooh fbdev1 works10:33
Dr_Williseven geexbox switchedc to using the x server and not the framebuffer10:33
Dr_Manhattanooooh fbdev2 works10:33
Dr_Willisi tend to turn off the fb. ;)10:34
Dr_WillisI recall the fb couldent do widescreen modes ages back.10:34
Dr_ManhattanI just want to set it to 1280x80010:34
Dr_Manhattanits supported, via hwinfo --framebuffer10:35
Dr_Willismodes the fb can use may be limited.  so watch out10:35
Dr_Manhattanyeah I just cant get the damn mode to change10:36
Dr_Willistried the fbset command?10:36
gokulextrasolar, will try that10:36
Dr_ManhattanI have not10:37
sajanekhello all10:37
Dr_Willislot of the fb tools are not installed by default10:37
sajanekI have a question about reprepro10:37
sajanekI want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?10:38
zcoobHi, i have a problem with grub2 and my windows 7 partition. grub redirects me fine to the windows boot loader but then i get an error with status 0xc000000e and it stops. i can fix this using the win7 dvd repair function but that is kinda not what i want. i want the problem to not even occur. any suggestions?10:39
gokulextrasolar, that is not fixing it. Will you advice doing apt-get upgrade -f ?10:40
alankilabarf. what a complex interplay between libvirt-bin, dnsmasq and resolvconf package. libvirt-bin drops a file that tells system dnsmasq to not bind the virtual network interface (if you have one) so that multiple dnsmasq's are possible. dnsmasq ordinarily looks up from resolv.conf, unless you have configured dnsmasq to not use that file. In which case resolvconf replaces your resolv.conf file with one that looks up from dnsmasq10:40
extrasolaryes10:40
Dr_Manhattansigh10:40
Dr_Willissnort10:41
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, you know, one of the things i HATE about linux is when you follow the dir's and it tells you to go f yourself.10:41
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, how do I use fbset to set my graphics mode10:41
Dr_Willisframebuffer is a dinoa0saur of an idea.  its never worked well10:41
alankilathese debian package scripts are smart -- maybe too smart10:42
Dr_Willisbeen ages since ive done more then just turn fb off.10:42
sajanekany hint with reprepro?10:42
Dr_Willisid have to look at the fbset man pages10:42
alankilabut finally I understand where the 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' line came from that gave me trouble last time some packages updated and resolv.conf file got regenerated10:43
alankilaand now I finally understand why it vanished which resulted in empty resolv.conf :-/10:43
sajanekI want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?10:44
Dr_Willisfbset has a -xrex and yres option it seems10:44
Dr_Willisfbset --help  ;)10:44
Dr_ManhattanYes, I'm using that10:44
Dr_Manhattanand man10:44
Dr_Manhattanand help10:44
Dr_Manhattanand it tells me to go f myself10:44
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sergiu[1]what is better for instalation, ubuntu desktop or alternative cd10:44
Dr_Willishow vague.[10:45
Dr_Willissergiu[1]:  either install the same system10:45
Dr_Manhattanwait, I got it10:45
Dr_Willissergiu[1]:  depends on your neeeds and system specs10:45
Dr_ManhattanNo I dont10:46
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, fbset only changes the size of the window within the monitor10:46
Dr_Manhattanit doesn't change the size of the console itself10:46
FishFaceUgh. After a lot of updates, my system info says I am now 32 bit OS Type. Have always been 64. 12.04 LTS10:47
Dr_WillisDr_Manhattan: sounds like your monitor is not scaling smaller images. just showing them at their original res.10:47
Dr_Willisperhaps10:47
Dr_Manhattanthe monitor only shows what is fed to it.10:47
Dr_Willisi dont recall ever getting widescreen type modes working on the fb consoles10:47
Dr_ManhattanI cannot change the mode at all10:48
Dr_Manhattanany mode10:48
Dr_Manhattanwith nouveau it automatically sets it at the max - 1680x105010:48
Dr_Manhattanwith nvidia it's locked @ 640x48010:48
Dr_Willisif the monitor is fed a 640x480 then it would show a little image in the middle.. if it was set to scale it would blow it up, from what i recall10:49
Dr_Williswhats the exact chipset anyway?10:49
Dr_Manhattanthe monitor is fed a 640x480 with nvidia-current, and it doesn't show a tiny image in the middle of the monitor10:50
Dr_Manhattanthe card is an nvidia 8400gs10:50
Dr_Willisso it is scaleing the image10:50
Dr_Manhattanif I use nouveau and play the movie with fbdev2 it'll scale it10:50
Dr_Manhattanmy problem is that I can't change the resolution of the console10:51
Dr_ManhattanI need it to be 1280x800 with the nvidia driver.10:51
Dr_Willisif you are using x - why do you need the console?10:51
Dr_Manhattansince the fbdev original driver doesn't work on nouveau and fbdev2 wont do fullscreen10:51
Dr_ManhattanI leave the box in console mode and only use X for a few things over ssh10:52
Dr_Willissounds weird. ;)  i was going to suggest the 'text' mode so neither noveau or nvidia get loaded, and see what happens10:53
Dr_Manhattani load with text. Itll load the module but still boots into console10:53
Dr_Willisit is using the right fb module? i recall the fb nvidia one being blacklisted once. and defaulting to a fbvesa10:55
Dr_Willisbut this is stuff from 3+ yrs ago10:55
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Dr_Willisim rinning out of ideas. ;) and i cant test becuase im on my cell, sshed to my pc.10:56
Dr_Willison 12.10 here. nvidia card.. fbvesa is the only fb module loaded i see...10:57
Dr_Willisand the nvidia module is loaded also, from lsmod output10:58
alankila*sigh* I really wish sometimes that linux had one central configuration database that multiple programs would read, all understanding the same config keys. So that for instance name server lookups aren't interplay of nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf, and your actual name server daemon's config.10:59
alankilajust a single file that declares what the upstream servers are, and what other host names must also be resolvable by clients, and if you actually have a name server that other people can access. Simple as that.10:59
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, nvidia and vesafb are both loaded11:00
Dr_WillisDr_Manhattan:  the nvidiafb module may be what you need. its blacklisted by default it seems11:00
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, all I really need is to change the console resolution11:00
MonkeyDust!brainstorm| alankila11:00
ubottualankila: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!11:01
Dr_Manhattanweak11:01
Dr_Willisperhaps unblacklist it11:01
Dr_Willissince you are using the vesafb as far as i can te11:01
Dr_Willistell11:01
Dr_Willisbut i bet it was blacklisted for a reason ;)11:01
Crooperhow do you disable the "keyring" thing (that I never setup in the first place) from opening up when I try to connect to Ubuntu111:02
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Dr_WillisCrooper:  askubuntu.com has several guides on it.11:03
Crooperok thnx Dr_Willis11:03
Dr_Williswell 'posts/questions/answers'11:03
Dr_Manhattanlovely.11:03
Dr_Willis;) easier to read and see the images11:03
Dr_Manhattanso can anyone PLEASE help me change my console resolution with the nvidia driver?11:09
Dr_Willisdid you try out the nvidiafb module?11:12
xalimsI changed my login password few days back. Now when I try (Graphically) to update or anything that requires password, it does not recognizes my new password. Please help.11:13
foobArrrwhat is the package name of "Disk Utility"?11:13
MonkeyDustfoobArrr  palimpsest11:13
wodimhi, how do i make it so the system doesn't suspend when the battery is critically low?11:13
foobArrrMonkeyDust: thanks11:13
MonkeyDustwodim  system settings, power11:13
xalimswodim: Go to power properties11:13
Dr_Willisxalims:  normal 'sudo apt-get update' works however?11:14
theadminfoobArrr: I think it's gnome-disk-utility11:14
wodimit lets me "hibernate" or "power off"11:14
wodimthat's far from "do nothing" :p11:14
Dr_Williswodim: what ubuntu release?11:15
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Dr_Willishmm11:15
nerdshellwodim: why would you want to do that, if battery is critically low so that the system goes on hibernation, you can't do anything without discharging it !11:15
xalimsI have changed my password but system services still requires my old password. Please help11:16
wodimnerdshell: my battery is broken and it will constantly report it's 0% charged11:17
wodimDr_Willis: latest11:17
xalimsDr_Willis: GRAPHICALLY11:17
Dr_Willis;) easier to read and see the images11:17
nerdshellxalims:  how did you change your password? did you use the "chpasswd" command ?11:17
Dr_Willisxalims:  so the console/sudo works.. gui dosent.. that is very .. weird11:18
xalimsnerdshell: Graphically from user management11:18
wodimi could do that with gnome-tweak-tool back when i used gnome3... will that work on unity?11:18
nerdshellxalims:  how many users do you have registered on your machine ?11:18
nerdshellwodim: no, I don't think so.11:19
Dr_Willisi thought 'hibernate' was disabled by default these days11:19
xalimsnerdshell: just root and me.11:19
ryanwong1030hi.11:19
xalimsYou know what.. forget it11:20
* Dr_Willis closes the ticket11:20
ryanwong1030is gnome3 better than gnome2?11:21
MonkeyDustryanwong1030  depends on what you like11:22
xalimsryanwong1030: Depends11:22
Dr_Willisryanwong1030:  gnome2 is basically dead.. so yes. ;)11:22
ThinkT510ryanwong1030: depends on what you prefer11:22
Dr_WillisGnome3 is  a big change. with some neat ideas.11:22
Dr_Willisif you wand the classic type old skool desktop theres xfce and lxde11:22
Dr_Willisboth are very nice11:23
ryanwong1030hello ,guys . i am new here :)  i am using gnome2 all the time.11:23
blubeeguys i created a .desktop file to lauch eclipse, the desktop file shows up in the finder but clicking it does nothing, could it be that i put my eclipse folder in ~/.eclipse11:23
MonkeyDustryanwong1030  then you're using an old ubuntu version11:23
Dr_Willistime to move away from gnome2 and move on.11:23
blubeeit launches from command line but the desktop file will not launch11:23
xalimsryanwong1030: That's Good unless there is any need for Gnome311:23
ryanwong1030i'll try gnome3 .maybe it's a good choice.11:24
nerdshellwodim: try this : sudo nano /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla11:24
nerdshelland look for the lines : Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes11:24
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, i had to use sw scaling in mplayer, although I do have to adjust the video to funny sizes b/c of the screwy aspect ratio of the default vesafb console - thank you very much for your help11:24
xalimsnerdshell: Whats this for??11:24
Dr_Willisunity is getting some neat features comming up in the next release. and in 12.04 its nice11:24
wodimnerdshell: there was no such file11:25
blubeeanyone have any clue?11:25
Dr_WillisDr_Manhattan:  i recall geexbox  having similer issues11:25
bonhoefferi just upgraded to 12.04, but my display resolution is really low and display can't change it. i have the new(er) intel chip with onboard graphics11:25
Dr_Willisno hardware acell = not good for me11:25
Dr_ManhattanDr_Willis, well im just making my server play some big bang theory in the background11:26
squaregoldfishIn the Gnome desktop (11.04) I notice the power button is sometimes red. Does anyone know what it signifies?11:26
nerdshellbonhoeffer: did you check if there was any proprietary drivers available ?11:27
blubeethis is my eclipse.desktop file located in applications folder : http://pastebin.com/MMtnKhvv11:27
xalimssquaregoldfish: It means that your system REQUIRES a reboot11:27
bonhoeffernerdshell, no, but i'm not sure how to find out11:27
bonhoefferis there a dmsg grep that i can run11:27
idefix2how can you switch to a different sound system in linux?11:27
squaregoldfish@xalims Oh, OK. It's odd because I have installed any updates.11:27
nerdshellbonhoeffer: open the dash and look for additional drivers11:28
bonhoefferdash?11:28
nerdshellbonhoeffer: the "windows" button, and then type additional drivers11:28
bonhoeffergot it -- thanks!11:29
blubeeanyone have any idea about the .desktop file?11:29
xalimsblubee: What about it?11:29
bonhoefferit says "no proprietary drivers are in use"11:29
Plumblum_evning gents, wondering if somone would lend a noobie a hand with setting up a webserver under ubuntu11:29
blubeexalims i created a .desktop file put it in the appropriate folder, the icon shows up but clicking on it doesn't launch the program. if i launch from the command line it works11:29
WormFoodwhat is the difference between 12.04 and 12.10? (other than the obvious fact that 12.04 is LTR, what are the technical differences?)11:30
MonkeyDustblubee  try right clicking on the icons and 'run as', or 'run in terminal' or so11:30
bonhoefferis there a way to find proprietary drivers?11:30
bonhoefferi'm sure this can work?11:30
rustler770blubee: eclipse broken I switched to netbeans11:31
blubeethere is no run as option when i right click fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 LTS11:31
Dr_Manhattanhey whats the pulse audio console mixer?11:31
Dr_Manhattanthe equiv to alsa-mixer11:31
ryanwong1030blubee: i prefer cui.11:31
xalimsblubee: Give the right permissions. Maybe helpful.11:31
BluesKajHowdy all11:32
blubeei used touch to create the file11:32
Plumblum_i sucessesfully got apache up and running, but i cant figure out why im not allowed to view the page. All im getting is Forbidden You donät have permission to axcess whatever on this server11:33
mouthwashcan somebody spare 5min to help me with a nobe problem?11:33
Plumblum_acces *11:33
theadminmouthwash: What's a nobe?11:33
BluesKaj!ask > mouthwash11:33
ubottumouthwash, please see my private message11:33
mouthwashtheadmin, i just need to alter the startup script for doom3 to fix the sound, but i can't find the script. i'm a nobe :)11:34
mouthwashtheadmin, or noob, whatever11:35
theadminmouthwash: Oh, wouldn't know that, sorry.11:35
WormFoodso noob, he can't even spell "noob"11:35
Dr_Willishow did youinstall doom3 ?11:36
mouthwashDr_Willis, mounted the iso-files and unpacked them, it should be in /usr/Games, but i can't find them there11:37
Dr_Willismouthwash:  case is imporntant.. and it may be /usr/local/games11:37
Dr_Willisand if you are using the official game and installer. it may have had an option to install to your home  ;)11:38
mouthwashDr_Willis, actually, i just found them, apparently it's /usr/local/... maybe i should read man find again...11:38
Dr_WillisDoes it work from  the cli? 'doom3'  or how do you launch it11:38
Dr_Willissudo updatedb, then locate doom     ;)11:39
xalimsmouthwash: Why don't you do for wine or I think doom3 is also available as opensource.11:39
Dr_WillisTheres some enhanced updated doom3 engines out i belive. they use the data files from the game11:40
mouthwashDr_Willis, i launch it from terminal as you said, but the sound lags terribly, i tried a fix that broke it completely, so i'm trying another that might work11:40
TJ-Plumblum_: Is it an HTML page you are trying to view?11:40
mouthwashxalims, it works beautifully, apart from the sound, so i'm gonna try to fix that before trying wine, but thnks for the suggestion11:40
Dr_Willismouthwash:  best would be a gpl'd new doom3 game engine.11:41
Dr_Willis!Games11:41
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/11:41
Plumblum_TJ-, yes, but i maybe have a solution, maybe it has to do with the permissions for the folder im trying to use as my web  root folder11:41
Plumblum_since im trying to keept it in /home/plumblum/sitename11:42
^BARrE|^wats a good win xp emulater11:43
blubeeman what is going on w/ this application ...11:43
mouthwash^BARrE|^ wine, or virtualbox with win xp11:44
TJ-Plumblum_: Yes, that would be what I was going to suggest. If the web-server is running as the user "www-data" as is usual, then if you want that account to acces files in your home, you need to set the group that owns that directory and its files to "www-data". So, from a terminal you'd do "chown -R :www-data /home/plumblum/sitename" - don't miss out the important colon : before www-data11:44
^BARrE|^where i get virtualbox11:44
Dr_Willis!Vbox11:45
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox11:45
Plumblum_TJ-, that seems like an easy solution :) thx11:45
lee8oi^BARrE|^,  wine works pretty good for a lot of apps. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And its a bit more Native. Virtualbox requires an entire winxp installation installed in it. Wine is an API11:45
^BARrE|^do i need win xp cd11:46
Dr_Manhattanwhat is the name of the app that controls the sound levels and inputs and the such?11:46
Dr_Willisfor vbox.. you need the os.. yes11:46
lee8oifor virtualbox yes11:46
lee8oiwine no11:46
Dr_Willis^BARrE|^:  what do you need to run?11:46
^BARrE|^games11:47
gansterasking about  website developing  application11:47
^BARrE|^like alpha centauri and hamachi11:47
Dr_Willis^BARrE|^:  what do you need to run?   moee specifically?11:47
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Dr_ManhattanPlease? anyone? what is the app called? all I see in the app itself is "Sound"11:47
Dr_Willismost older games can run well in wine.11:47
Dr_Willissid meirs alpha centauri. does work i recall11:48
^BARrE|^i need hamachi a vpn to be installed11:48
Dr_Willisno idea what hamachi is.11:48
gansterasking about  website developing  application11:48
nooitgedachtHi, my T60 started shutting down recently without me doing anything. i'm running xubuntu 12.04 – which logfile would contain information on reason for halting? Cheers!11:48
Dr_Manhattanif you click on the speaker icon, then click on sound-settings. I need the name of the app that pops up please11:48
Dr_Manhattanpretty please with sugar on top11:48
TJ-Dr_Manhattan: You may be able to find out from a terminal whilst the applet is running by listing the processes: "ps -ef"11:48
Dr_Manhattanand a cherry11:48
Dr_Manhattanand my firstborn son11:49
Dr_Manhattanand a kidney11:49
Dr_WillisDr_Manhattan:  run it and check top/htop output perhaps11:49
Dr_Manhattanall I saw was "pulseaudio"11:49
Dr_Willisi tend to use pavcontrol or was it pauvcontrol11:50
Plumblum_TJ-, still no luck :/ how do i define wich site is the "default" one ? i disabled the ones im not using as recommended in the server guide11:50
rypervenchepavucontrol11:50
gansterasking about  website developing  application11:50
gansterasking about  website developing  application11:50
TJ-Dr_Manhattan: I think you'll find it's "gnome-control-center"11:51
Dr_Manhattanneither is that, it isnt installed11:51
Dr_Willispavucontrol has moar features11:51
TJ-Plumblum_: I assumed you'd already linked your home directory by enabling userdir's in the apache configuration?11:51
Dr_ManhattanTJ-, thank you my friend. Should I send the kidney or the baby first?11:51
Dr_Willisgnome-volume-control perhaps11:51
Dr_Willishmm11:52
Dr_Manhattannot found - tj was right11:53
Plumblum_TJ-, well kinda, i was reading the results of my google search so the mod is installed and the server restarted11:53
Dr_Manhattanoooh you're right pavycontrol is sweet11:53
Plumblum_but i havnt changed the things in /mods-enabled/userdir.conf11:53
TJ-Plumblum_: To enable mods from the terminal you do "sudo 2enmod <modname>"11:54
bonhoefferhow do i tell if i have i5 or i7?11:54
TJ-Plumblum_: And the reverse to disable is "sudo a2dismod <modname>"11:54
Plumblum_yep :)11:54
Dr_Manhattanand it has the proper inputs for the audio card. THanks a bunch guys11:54
TJ-bonhoeffer: Possibly: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"11:55
Plumblum_TJ-, i knew how to, but i think i need to change the mods config :)11:55
Dr_Manhattanwow, I was pleasantly surprised to find out linux makes a far better box for zoneminder and a/v11:55
bonhoefferTJ-, thanks!11:55
Dr_ManhattanI still have to run a VM for one thing but I'll be using vbox for that11:55
bonhoeffergot it -- so now i need to get graphics working for i5-2500K11:55
Plumblum_right now i only think it works for /public_html11:56
Plumblum_so im gonna change that to my site root11:56
Dr_Manhattanvbox rocks with the usb passthrough11:56
TJ-Plumblum_: No, you need to change your home directory ... when userdir is enabled apache will expect to find a public_html/ directory in your home directory. So rename your ~/sitename to ~/public_html and you're good to go11:56
Dr_Manhattannow I can run phonetray11:56
Dr_Manhattanand the vm can be really lightweight11:56
TJ-Plumblum_: Or you could create ~/public_html/sitename11:56
Plumblum_TJ-,  i wasnt gonna rename my home directory :) just change /public_html to something else :P11:57
Plumblum_but public_html is probably a good description so i will remember that its always the webserver root11:57
TJ-Plumblum_: I'd recommend creating public_html/ in your home directory and moving your sitename/ dir into it... in future, it might avoid confusion with things not working as expected if you use more sophisticated features11:58
TJ-Plumblum_: "public_html" is standard on all apache installations11:58
bonhoefferis this my only solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172173/ivy-bridge-graphics-not-working-core-i5-hd-250011:58
bonhoeffernew, fresh, install ?11:58
bonhoefferjust to get the display working?11:58
Plumblum_TJ-, exactley :) luckey for me i didnt change anything, so ill just go and rename my sitename to public_html11:59
bonhoefferfrom what i remember, 11.04 set up graphics easily11:59
TJ-bonhoeffer: You should just be able to make those amendments to the current system12:00
bonhoefferagreed, so getting the i5-2500K graphics drivers seems to be the hard part12:00
lee8oibonhoeffer, in 'System Settings' there's a hardware drivers  app.12:00
lee8oithat should allow you to install proprietary drivers12:00
TJ-bonhoeffer: Here's the PPA so you can add it correctly:  https://launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ppa12:01
bonhoefferthanks12:01
sajanekI want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?12:01
sajanekadd to local repository, reprepro12:01
bonhoefferTJ-, now i'm getting close! thanks12:02
TJ-bonhoeffer: You can add the "nomodeset" to grub/s config in /etc/default/grub and the "sudo update-grub" to have the bootloader updated12:02
bonhoefferthanks! -- right now i'm trying to get the ppa loaded12:02
lee8oisudo add-apt-repository ppa:reponame/ppa12:03
bonhoefferthanks12:03
bonhoefferlearning a lot today :)12:04
TJ-bonhoeffer: you edit /etc/default/grub with root privileges (e.g. Alt+F2 then "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub") then amend one of the lines to read GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to include whatever is there now plus " nomdeset"12:04
lee8oi~tjaalton is probably the name if you missed that.12:04
TJ-bonhoeffer: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX already exists so find that line and amend it12:04
bonhoefferTJ-, sorry, a quick backup -- i added the ppa, now how do i get the drivers12:05
Plumblum_TJ-, am i not allowed to have dots in my directories name ?12:05
TJ-bonhoeffer: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:05
TJ-Plumblum_: You can have dots in directory names, yes12:05
Plumblum_then i must be doing something else wrong12:06
TJ-Plumblum_: Did you restart apache? "sudo apache2ctl restart"12:06
Plumblum_yep12:06
ganster sorry guys asking about  website developing  application12:06
TJ-Plumblum_: Read the apache log files /var/log/apache2/  you'll want error.log or access.log12:07
jalexandruganster: your question?12:07
bonhoefferTJ-, so i now have updated the file: https://gist.github.com/331381312:07
lee8oidots in web directory names? I've never tried that, but I can imagine it might confuse the web browser if you typed it into the address bar.12:08
TJ-bonhoeffer: That's correct. Now do "sudo update-grub"12:08
TJ-lee8oi: why.would.this.directory.name.confuse.apache/ ?12:09
Plumblum_TJ-, yep getting permission denied to /favicon.ico and also /index.html12:09
bonhoefferdid it -- strange: Found Ubuntu 11.10 (11.10) on /dev/sdb112:09
bonhoefferi'm running 12.0412:09
Plumblum_not sure why it wants a /favicon.ico since i havnt added something like that12:09
Plumblum_its just a line of text in index.html12:10
lee8oias subdomains, should be fine, as directories? hmm. Maybe its because I've never tried it that it feels strange.12:10
TJ-Plumblum_: OK, have you given www-data group ownership of your public_html and contents? "chown -R :www-data public_html"  ?12:10
bonhoeffersdb1 is my boot partition12:10
bonhoefferwhy would that have 11.10 on it?12:10
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Plumblum_i thought that wasnt neccesary when using the mod userdir12:11
TJ-bonhoeffer: What it probably found is an older kernel? did you have Natty on there previously?12:11
bonhoefferTJ-, yes12:11
bonhoefferis that a problem?12:11
bonhoefferi thought i did a completely fresh install12:11
Plumblum_lee8oi, the browser wont know its dots in the file name since its trying to axcess the root of that folder12:11
TJ-bonhoeffer: It shouldn't be... it'll put older boot entries under "Previous linux versions" sub-menu12:11
Plumblum_or atleast i dont think it should12:11
bonhoeffergot it -- here is my fdisk -l https://gist.github.com/331382712:12
TJ-Plumblum_: What URL are you using to access your userdir?12:12
lee8oiPlumblum_, I see online one gentleman says the solution might be "chown -R www-data:www-data filestore"12:12
bonhoefferTJ-, i see that is an older disk i have hooked up12:12
bonhoeffermakes sense now12:13
TJ-Plumblum_: There's a special character used to denote a userdir: http://host/~plumblum/12:13
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TJ-bonhoeffer: That sounds concerning. That sounds like it may have updated the boot menu on the wrong disk!12:13
bonhoefferno, i plugged an old disk in --12:14
bonhoefferi should format it12:14
Plumblum_TJ-, im only using an ip12:14
TJ-bonhoeffer: Ahhh... might be a good idea to unplug that drive and redo the update-grub step12:14
Plumblum_hanvt had time to fix a proper name12:14
bonhoefferTJ-, thanks12:14
TJ-Plumblum_: So http://IP/~plumblum/12:14
Plumblum_but i dont want to axcces a subdirectory12:15
bonhoefferTJ-, so how do i get to my graphics now -- reboot?12:15
TJ-Plumblum_: IP or hostname are interchangeable... it's all converted to IP addresses anyhow12:15
luftikussWhat command does suppress WeeChat's messages of the kind "foo has left IRC", "bar has come to channel #ubuntu"?12:15
TJ-bonhoeffer: That is the *theory*12:15
Plumblum_TJ-, that i do now :)12:15
bonhoefferTJ-, thanks!12:15
lee8oiPlumblum_, are you using a CMS, or are you just setting up the basic apache?12:15
bonhoefferleaving ...12:15
Plumblum_basic apache12:15
lee8oioh ok.12:15
Plumblum_TJ-,  why would i have to connect to http://ip/~plumblum i want it to be the root at just http://IP12:16
MonkeyDustguys, my second, external monitor is set as primary monitor, how do i change that?12:16
spanner3003hi i just updated my ubuntu 11.10 system and now i can't get in to it i get an error couldn't read file message it is a wubi install12:17
lee8oiPlumblum_, to be honest, I setup a really awesome server using one of the 'The Perfect Server' howto's, they have one for Ubuntu. You'd be really happy with the results.12:17
MonkeyDustnvm found it12:18
Plumblum_lee8oi, link to that guide ? im reeding the official pdf one.12:18
bonhoefferTJ-, hmm ... reboot and no way to see better graphics12:18
TJ-Plumblum_: If it is still failing it will because one of the parent directories (from / on down) does NOT have the +x (execute) bit set12:18
bonhoefferi check additional drivers, and display12:18
bonhoefferand nothing looks different12:18
lee8oiPlumblum_, Try whatever TJ suggests, but if you do want to check out the tutorial try the one I used: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.com%2Fperfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3&ei=PvwkUNedEMrjqgGG8oGwCg&usg=AFQjCNFUbKl1fpXh9_CbwEUf57fK_qdRNg&sig2=4TCI3XFJ04s7QQxAWsfCcw12:19
lee8oierr whoops thats the redirect url12:19
lee8oihttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-312:19
lee8oiMy server is awesome, and it can handle as many domain names/sits as I want.12:20
lee8oiPlus it has ispconfig setup which is fantastic.12:20
TJ-Plumblum_: "chmod a+x /home/plumblum"12:20
lee8oiyou can ignore the bad certificate part if you are the only one using the panel.12:20
TJ-bonhoeffer: Hmmm... let me do some more research for you12:21
PiciTJ-: thats really overkill.12:21
bonhoefferi'm wondering about a fresh install, if that is my only option12:21
Plumblum_well i have an awesome websever :P but i have thought for a long time that i should learn the basics of the ubuntu server12:21
Plumblum_my windows server is working like a dream ^^12:21
PiciTJ-: and completely uneeded for mod_userdir12:21
TJ-Pici: It's not. I've just tested it here... with only g+x on /home/tj/ it gives permission denied12:21
lee8oiPlumblum_, I see. thats fair. :)12:21
Plumblum_TJ-, ill try that last one, i really appriciate the help :)12:21
lee8oiPlumblum_, the basic server should have been working out of the box, you must have played with file permissions or something prior to installing apache.12:22
PiciTJ-: It needs read permissions, not execute.12:22
spanner3003can anyone help my?12:22
Plumblum_lee8oi, the basic server works12:22
spanner3003me**12:22
Plumblum_i just want to move the webroot to my home directory12:22
lee8oioh, then I"ve been on the wrong track.12:22
spanner3003hi i just updated my ubuntu 11.10 system and now i can't get in to it i get an error couldn't read file message it is a wubi install12:22
MonkeyDustwubi :(12:22
lee8oiohh....try creating a symbolic link12:23
TJ-Pici: The +s is to navigate the directory... we don't want the web server able to *read* files in the user's home directory!12:23
TJ-oops, typeo ... +x12:23
lee8oithats what I did.12:23
Dr_Willisspanner3003:  updated from a eaelier version? or just a normal update?12:23
Plumblum_TJ-, i dont know how but after the a+x on /home/plumblum12:23
TJ-Plumblum_: I've tested everything I've told you out afresh here and it saw the same errors you do, now I can access the public_html directory12:23
Plumblum_it works ^^12:23
PiciTJ-: Then you should set it on only the directories. not all the files.12:23
spanner3003normal update from update manager12:23
TJ-Pici: That's what I did12:24
PiciTJ-: oh, sorry, I thought I saw a -r in there.  I haven't had my caffiene yet this morning.12:24
TJ-Pici: lol no.. the -R was for the earlier "chown -R :www-data public_html"12:25
Plumblum_TJ-, it works :) i hope i didnt compromise anything12:25
Plumblum_and just as i type that Pici wrote that he misread :P12:25
TJ-Plumblum_: If you did, then my own servers have been compromised for years :p12:25
Plumblum_:D12:25
spanner3003it looked like it updated the kernel and stuff12:25
PiciPlumblum_: sorry for the confusion.12:25
Plumblum_nah its fine man12:26
Plumblum_ive been confused over this problem for 12+ hours xD12:26
TJ-Plumblum_: earlier versions of Ubuntu used to ship with user home directories having those execute bits set... but then permissions were restricted in later releases so we have to make the explicit choice to allow it now12:26
spanner30033.0 something was the kernel update12:26
TJ-Plumblum_: So now you can celebrate with a cup of tea :p12:26
Plumblum_why is it such a hassel to have the webroot in my home directory ?12:26
MonkeyDustspanner3003  3.0.2-2912:26
Plumblum_i mean it has its own files and everything ;)12:27
Plumblum_folders *12:27
Dr_Willisspanner3003:  tried booting one of the older kernels?12:27
caixais there anyway to see what is stressing my GPU?12:27
lee8oiPlumblum_, security. the webroot is vulnerable to whatever your user account does. Thats how I see it.12:27
TJ-Plumblum_: It's not ... but we don't want 'noob' users inadvertently allowing access to more than they realise do we? Then Ubuntu would get a bad reputation12:27
spanner3003MonkeyDust, could be12:27
MonkeyDustspanner3003  i mean, 3.2.0-2912:27
Plumblum_TJ-, that is true :) and i think i will celebrate with that cup of tea and then go forward with setting up the rest of it :D12:28
ShinobiI d/led ubuntu server 12.04 and intallled ubuntu-desktop. The article I read said it would install gnome, but I have unity. How do I get gnome.12:28
spanner3003how i have no grub screen i jist get error: couldn't read file12:28
Plumblum_and lee8oi thats kinda the point :P since im gonna be moving stuff there from my account etc12:28
Dr_WillisShinobi:  unity runs on top of gnome312:28
MonkeyDustShinobi  unity is a shell over gnome312:28
jalexandruShinobi apt-get install gnome12:28
Dr_Willis!Gnome-shell12:28
TJ-bonhoeffer: I'm still researching12:28
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bonhoefferthanks -- me too :)12:29
MarKsaitisare site config files like phpmyadmin and sogo supposed to be going to conf.d of apache in ubuntu?12:29
MarKsaitisor is it bloody packagers of sogo and phpmyadmin doing it wrong?!12:29
lee8oiPlumblum_, you can always move stuff there from your account. Its ok to take the lazy way, I've done it before :)12:29
PiciMarKsaitis: usually.12:29
TJ-bonhoeffer: Can you check for me whether there is a manually created Xorg configuration: "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf"   ideally that should not exist now12:29
MarKsaitisPici, well, I thought thats why you have sites-available!!!!!!!!!!12:30
MarKsaitisand sites-enabled12:30
rahul_can anyone please tell me, good video downloader for ubuntu  "like internet download manager (win)"12:30
MarKsaitiswhat do you mean usually, for the sake of integrity there is only one folder for one reason12:30
MonkeyDustrahul_  there's youtube-dl12:30
spanner3003Dr_Willis, did you get my last?12:31
PiciMarKsaitis: I mean yes. Thats where phpmyadmin's config file goes.  and no, I don't know why thats the convention.12:31
Dr_Willisand dozens of ff extensions12:31
lee8oirahul_, http://code.google.com/p/damnvid/ is another option.12:31
Dr_Willisspanner3003:  other then trying a older kernel. i got no other ideas. i dont use wubi, and i dont reccomend using wubi12:31
spanner3003k thanks12:32
TJ-MarKsaitis: "conf.d: contains configuration files which apply globally to Apache2. Other packages that use Apache2 to serve content may add files, or symlinks, to this directory. "12:32
bonhoefferTJ-, ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory12:32
bonhoeffertrue it doesn't exist12:32
Plumblum_lee8oi, im not logged in as root all the time so its probably easier to have the webroot in my home directory :)12:32
TJ-bonhoeffer: That's good news! It means there isn't a manually createe config overriding any auto-detected config12:32
Plumblum_it has its own subfolder so i shoudlnt mess it upp by acciden12:32
Plumblum_accident *12:33
bonhoefferi like good news, but i'm not sure what to do with it12:33
ShinobiThanks!... On a side note, would xfce (or whatever it is) be better for ubuntu server. This is just a dev LAMP machine. Prototyping a web app12:33
lee8oiPlumblum_, you shouldn't be logged in as root all the time, but you can always use 'sudo cp' to move files.12:33
caixais there a way to display top-like GPU usage in ubuntu?12:33
theadminShinobi: ...For servers, you normally don't use any desktop12:33
XLVhttp://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/projects/armsglobe/12:33
TJ-bonhoeffer: Are you able to pastebin me a file? "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"12:33
Plumblum_lee8oi, im never logged in as root :P im using sudo when i have to :)12:33
MarKsaitisTJ-, ridiculous, to serve content thru apache? That is the purpose of sites-available and sites-enabled, isnt it?!12:33
Dr_WillisShinobi: may as well run a desktop install and install the services you need ;)12:33
TJ-MarKsaitis: "sites-available: this directory has configuration files for Apache2 Virtual Hosts. Virtual Hosts allow Apache2 to be configured for multiple sites that have separate configurations. "12:34
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Shinobitheadmin: If I need to run a browser from localhost (the webserver). I would need one, no?12:34
Guest1618MonkeyDust, but it only download youtube videos12:34
lee8oiPlumblum_, sounds like one of those times ;) lol but again like I said, I've done it that way too. Its not as risky as some might think, but whatever happens on your user account, can potentially affect those files since your user has direct access.12:34
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bonhoefferTJ-, hmm. . pastebin it sends me to a blank link12:35
theadminShinobi: Well, maybe a plain X.org with openbox or something.12:35
bonhoefferi'll try gist12:35
theadminShinobi: Desktop environment -- going too far12:35
TJ-lee8oi: Plumblum_ I've often done that by using a bind mount of a home working directory into /var/www/12:35
Plumblum_lee8oi, ofc :) just like i have it in my windows enviroment ;)12:35
TJ-bonhoeffer: Grrr12:35
lee8oiPlumblum_, I see :)12:35
bonhoeffer:< -- one problem leads to another ...12:35
Shinobigdm or light dm... which one do I use for gnome?12:35
lee8oiTJ-, thats an idea.12:36
bonhoefferi'll copy/paste12:36
ThinkT510Shinobi: default is lightdm12:36
PiciShinobi: it doesn't matter.12:36
MarKsaitisfair enough. In my case it is ridiculous to have config files for sogo and phpmyadmin in conf.d and stuff like magento, openerp and default site in sites-enabled12:36
Dr_WillisShinobi:  either.. but servers normally dont boot to a *Dm12:36
lee8oiI always just used sudo and copied my files over. Only the first user on the system gets sudo access usually.12:36
TJ-lee8oi: I also use sshfs mounts to put my local working copy on a public server to test it on a hidden random-named directory12:36
rahul__MonkeyDust,  thanks, is their anyother which can download video from any site?12:36
ShinobiI hear what your saying. At this point I might just reinstall and try again.... seems like it's already slow and bloated12:36
MonkeyDustrahul__  maybe some plugin in your browser12:37
ShinobiDr_Willis. That's fine. As long as I can run a startx and get to a gui life is fine12:37
lee8oiTJ-, sounds quite thought out. I like using Node.js for that purpose.12:37
Dr_WillisShinobi: i cant imagine how.. you havent installed antthing yet12:37
lee8oiI can use any IP:port I want anytime.12:37
Plumblum_TJ-, im not sure how to use that :P and generally when using "shortcuts" not sure what they are called, confuses me. so having the webroot in a folder in my home directory suits me well12:37
bonhoefferTJ-, https://gist.github.com/331391912:37
rahul__MonkeyDust, ok, ty12:37
TJ-Plumblum_: oh, agreed. But when you get more advanced these other ways of doing sometimes have merits... such as when you need to have something you are working on included in an existing web-app and database config12:38
TJ-bonhoeffer: Reading... I may be gone for some time... :p12:38
^BARrE|^can i mount a iso in gnome?12:38
bonhoefferok, wow -- thanks for the help . . .12:38
Dr_Willis!Iso | ^BARrE|^12:38
ubottu^BARrE|^: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:38
theadmin^BARrE|^: Dunno about GNOME, but mount -o loop blah.iso /mnt12:38
Dr_Willisthers some gnome iso mount tool also.. but the cli way is worth learning12:39
ShinobiIt's a VM so that may have something to do with the slowness, but it's actually slow in comparison to my other (ubuntu) VMs12:39
ShinobiRam is good12:39
MonkeyDust^BARrE|^  please remove those ^ signs12:39
lee8oiTJ-, thats the main reason I couldn't really offer much help with the Apache, I'm mostly using Node.js for my development. That way I can always change ports/etc without affecting my public server.12:39
Plumblum_TJ-, one step at a time :P im relativley new to ubuntu so i think getting advanced takes its time. since this is going to be more of a test server i kinda excpect to have to wipe everything and start over when i need to :)12:39
theadminMonkeyDust: What's wrong with ^ in the nickname? Don't like cat ears?12:40
lee8oiPlumblum_, use Ubuntu Server to build servers...even if you want to start from scratch and learn12:40
Plumblum_lee8oi, isnt that what im doing ?12:40
lee8oioh lol12:40
Plumblum_;912:40
Plumblum_;) *12:40
lee8oiman I need another smoke :P I just woke up a while ago too12:40
TopGrLhey12:41
Plumblum_still getting used to not having a gui :D12:41
TJ-lee8oi: Smoking will stunt your code!12:41
ghanotopgrl: hi12:41
Plumblum_has been quite some times since i used ssh12:41
Plumblum_and lee8oi go for a cup of tea instead :)12:41
TopGrLis here any server's expert?12:41
lee8oiTJ lol naw, it only stunts my creativity :)12:41
Plumblum_you can take that with you to your desktop12:42
theadminTopGrL: Just ask your questions.12:42
Plumblum_TopGrL, i would suggest TJ- but dont wear him out, i think we need him12:42
Plumblum_:)12:42
TJ-LOL thanks Plumb!12:42
Plumblum_well so far its true :P12:42
lee8oiTJ-, if I don't smoke I'm always over thinking everything and coding 20 lines for something I can do in 2. When I smoke I stare longer and think it through better :)12:43
Plumblum_i dont have to make it up12:43
ghanotheadmin: what about updates fail to download?12:43
TopGrLwhich linux server do u recommend? I am thinking debian but I don't know...12:43
theadminghano: Sorry, wut?12:43
TJ-lee8oi: Interesting excuse for your poor lungs!12:43
lee8oiBut I'm deaf. If I don't smoke my anxiety, and my own head go absolutely bananas12:43
Pici!offtopic12:43
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:43
theadminTopGrL: This is an Ubuntu channel, what kind of answer do you expect to get... Try ##linux12:43
TJ-bonhoeffer: I'm reading up on the bug #1031784 report now12:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031784 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Precise) "Artifacts on screen with ivy bridge" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103178412:44
TopGrLoops12:44
TopGrLtnx12:44
Dr_WillisTopGrL:  totally depends on your needs. we suggest ubuntu here if you want ubuntu support12:44
bonhoefferhmm . . .12:44
lee8oiTJ-, lol yea poor lungs. You got me there.12:44
ghanofor system update it tell fail to fitch  data12:44
TJ-lee8oi: Take up running it works! :)12:44
lee8oiTJ-, or bike riding!12:44
TopGrLOk I will go to Linux..I f..ked up:)12:44
TopGrLsorry guys12:44
theadminTopGrL: It's no problem, good luck :)12:44
TopGrLtnx12:45
TopGrLI am so blonde:)12:45
MonkeyDustghano  any error message?12:45
ghanoyes12:45
lee8oihey blondes can be smart in their own ways lol12:45
TJ-bonhoeffer: What we did should fix the issue on a clean install. I don't want you to have to reinstall for this, so I'm going to figure out what artifacts are left behind that we need to delete!12:45
bonhoefferTJ-, got it!12:46
MonkeyDustghano  what error(s)?12:46
TJ-When I was blonde I swear I was smarter! :p12:46
bonhoefferwow -- thanks!12:46
ghanoit's a long message12:46
MonkeyDustghano  pastebin it in the channel12:46
MonkeyDust!pastebin12:46
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:46
ghanomay be next time when it appears12:47
ghanoMonkeyust thank you12:47
ganster sorry guys asking about  website developing  application12:49
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MonkeyDustganster  try kompozer12:49
jalexandruganster seams to be bot12:49
TJ-bonhoeffer: The issue is fixed by updating two packages. I'm going to download the bad and the good packages and see what the 'bad' one might be leaving behind to affect the new package. Before I do, I need you to confirm the versions installed on yours. Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mesa && apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel"12:50
jalexandrurepeated the question 4-5 times without having anything to say...12:50
bonhoefferTJ-, https://gist.github.com/331396712:50
bonhoefferbut TJ, why don't i just do a fresh install -- this is a new(er) install anyway12:51
bonhoefferand i feel bad you are doing so much work12:51
TJ-bonhoeffer: Well if you want to! I thought it would be interesting to figure out why a simple package upgrade doesn't fix it12:51
bonhoeffertrue, but i want to respect your time12:52
k42jchi12:52
TJ-bonhoeffer: I just want to find out which version of mesa you have installed... let me figure out what the package name will be!12:52
bonhoefferok -- did you get my gist?12:53
TJ-bonhoeffer: Yes, that's why I want to know... I thought the package name was just "mesa" but that's only for the source-code, so I need to figure out the binary package names12:53
bonhoefferah12:54
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ThinkT510!find mesa | TJ-12:55
ubottuTJ-: Found: libegl1-mesa, libegl1-mesa-dbg, libegl1-mesa-dev, libegl1-mesa-drivers, libegl1-mesa-drivers-dbg, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg, libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg (and 25 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mesa&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all12:55
Guest64319can't mount my hard-drive. it appears in Disk Utility, divided to several volumes with device /dev/sda#, all of partition type unknown(using 11.04 on live cd)12:55
TJ-ThinkT510: Yes, I know what they all are... I'm trying to figure out which ones the xorg...intel package needs :p12:55
gigihothoti think I have set a limit on my update manager a few months ago , how to i check ?12:56
TJ-bonhoeffer: "apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa"12:56
gigihothoti think I have set a limit on my update manager a few months ago , how do i check ?12:56
MonkeyDustGuest64319  you can format the partition to ext4 during installation12:57
MonkeyDustpartitions*12:57
bonhoefferhttps://gist.github.com/331401312:57
bonhoefferfor TJ-12:57
Guest64319<MonkeyDust>, is there a way to get the data from it before i format?12:57
TJ-bonhoeffer: Thanks. So your system doesn't have that installed... that's good. Less to figure out!12:58
bonhoeffer:)12:58
MonkeyDustGuest64319  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here12:58
gigihothotwho can help me to get rid of update manager download limit ?12:59
jpdsgigihothot: There is no limit by defauly.12:59
Guest64319the power failed on my windows7 installation, and the computer could not boot (error reading from disk). i burned my live cd from my other machine, and come here12:59
twobigdimpleshi. i have a dual boot system running ubuntu 11.10 64bit and windows vista 32bit13:00
gigihothotjpds , i have set the limit previously and i forgot how to set it back13:00
MonkeyDustGuest64319  ok, linux sees the harddisk as partitions, you need enough space to intall linux on it13:00
jpdsgigihothot: well, only you're going to know how to reset that, it could be something in /etc/apt/13:00
MonkeyDustGuest64319  free space, that is13:00
Guest64319i can install om my second hd.13:01
gigihothothow to chcek the update manger limit ?13:01
bekksgigihothot: Which limit?13:01
MonkeyDustGuest64319  you should be able to select that second hd in gparted13:01
TJ-bonhoeffer: I think it will be quicker to reinstall. I can't see anything obviously different having looked at the new driver's build log13:02
twobigdimpleshow do i encrypt and back up the entire secondary memory?13:02
gigihothotupdate manger download limit13:02
soliloquyHi. I'd like to start dual booting Xubuntu with OS X Mountain Lion on my MacBook Air. Does anyone have instructions that will work? I'm nervous about ruining my OS X install in the process, which I need for school.13:02
lee8oitwobigdimples, you want to back up all your hard drives?13:02
bonhoeffergot it -- thanks for trying!13:02
Guest64319what is gparted? you mean the installation process or disk utility?13:02
twobigdimplesi only have one hdd13:03
Dr_Willisgparted is a tool you can install and use13:03
Guest64319nvm, i got gparted13:03
Dr_Willisits a very handy tool.13:03
lee8oitwobigdimples, try this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/hdup.1.html13:04
Dr_Willistheres a gparted live-cd thats worth haivng in your pc toolbox also ;)13:04
lee8oitwobigdimples, that also supports encryption/etc.13:04
Guest64319<MonkeyDust>, it appears on gparted13:05
sergiu[1]how iis possible to remove all windows effects in ubuntu 12.04? :)13:05
tech1fried nuggets13:06
MonkeyDustGuest64319  you know what to do now? familiar with partitioning?13:06
sergiu[1]how to turn of compiz13:06
sergiu[1]:))13:06
MonkeyDust!notcompiz13:06
MonkeyDust!notunity13:06
sergiu[1]!compiz >sergiu[1]13:06
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic13:06
ubottusergiu[1], please see my private message13:06
Guest64319i know it in general from windows and dos, but i don't know what to do after installing ubuntu13:07
bonhoefferTJ-: how do i: Do a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04, boot installer with nomodeset13:07
MonkeyDustGuest64319  next phase is: learning13:07
bonhoefferwhen i can set that i'm doing the fresh install now13:07
TJ-bonhoeffer: When the liveCD starts there should be options along the bottom of the screen to press function keys. F6 I think is advanced, then you need to add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command line, then start it13:08
bonhoefferoh -- oops13:08
sergiu[1]I am trying to remove compiz, unity with synaptic but the files are deleted only by one, not all files related with name unity13:08
TJ-bonhoeffer: :p13:09
Guest64319learning what? i can install ubuntu, and used it for several months on my other machine13:09
bonhoefferi'm already past that, right i'm entering user information13:09
bonhoefferlike account name, etc13:09
MonkeyDustsergiu[1]  nop need to remove anything, just install a different DE and select it in lightDM13:09
TJ-bonhoeffer: Well as long as the video is working you should be OK ... as soon as it reboots into the installed system, press SHIFT as soon as the BIOS screens end to get to the GRUB boot menu13:09
sergiu[1]MonkeyDust,ihad selected simple KDM13:09
sergiu[1]needed to selecet probaly lightDM13:10
Dr_WillisEither can work13:10
Dr_Willissudo service lightdm reconfigure      to change *Dm's13:10
TJ-bonhoeffer: Then choose the Ubuntu item from the menu and press "E" to edit it. You'll see several lines of text one starting with "linux" ... add to the end of that "nomodeset" and then press Ctrl+X to boot13:10
Dr_Willisoops wrong command13:10
bonhoefferTJ-: just to be sure, i go through the fresh install like normal, then when i reboot i: boot installer with nomodeset13:11
Dr_Willissudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm    to change *Dm's13:11
Anomie21One of the computers on my network is bypassing OpenDNS somehow (Kubuntu). It's recognised as being on OpenDNS (when I view the opendns welcome page it says I'm using OpenDNS). But he is able to view all the sites I've blocked (facebook, etc?)13:11
TJ-bonhoeffer: Not the installer no. You've just got through the installer without a problem. When it restarts you'll be editing the installed system.13:11
bonhoeffergot it13:12
|12jow12Hello?13:12
|12jow12Am i allowd to ask qeustions about ubuntu here?13:12
TJ-bonhoeffer: You'll add "nomodeset" temporarily for *that boot only* to get in... then once in we'll edit /etc/default/grub again to put "nomodeset" in there13:12
Dr_Willis|12jow12: thats the point of the channel13:12
TJ-bonhoeffer: after editing it, you'll do the update-grub again to fix the change13:12
TJ-bonhoeffer: Then you can add that PPA and do the dist-upgrade13:13
|12jow12Dr_Willis: ok then13:13
sergiu[1]haha13:13
sergiu[1]gnome 3 is so much more good then unity13:14
Sidewinder1?13:14
Dr_Willissergiu[1]:  i find just the opposite13:14
MonkeyDustand i like xfce and classic13:14
sergiu[1]Dr_Willis:  there is an button, view, when you click on it you see all running apps13:14
sergiu[1]:))13:14
bluenemohi guys, i cant get my computer to eat a 64bit 12.04 live cd for installing, is there a way to build a 64bit installer onto a usb stick from debain testing 32 bit?13:14
Dr_Willissergiu[1]: so?13:15
TJ-I'm getting used to Unity now... after I discovered holding down the Meta (windows) key give so many useful hints13:15
sergiu[1]Dr_willis, does unity DE have the same?13:15
sergiu[1]:)13:15
Dr_Willisbluenemo:  you can dd the iso image to flash. or use tools from pendrivelinux13:16
bluenemoi think unity is the worst interface ever. however i really LOVE gnome shell. for work i use xmonad all the time and love it, but on my x200 tablet i use gnome-shell sometimes and its just awesome.13:16
Dr_Willissergiu[1]:  cant say i have issues i apps..13:16
Dr_Williswith loseing apps13:16
|12jow12So i have installed windows server 2003 on this old pc but now i am dualbooting ubuntu, i've never used linux before and many more advanced pc users told me that linux is just way faster, better etc but for some reason my internet keeps disconecting after about 30 - 60 seconds. I'm using a wireless dongel from conceptronic and also have a conceptronic router.13:16
bluenemoDr_Willis, i can really just dd it? doesnt it not work anymore because of syslinux and isolinux bootloaders required to boot eather one?13:16
Dr_Willisquicklists and the hud and lenses are the main features i use13:16
MonkeyDust|12jow12  wifi for a server sounds odd to me13:17
Dr_Willisbluenemo:  as of 11.10 i think you can just dd it to flash13:17
bluenemolol AWESOME :D13:17
Dr_Willisbluenemo:  12.04+ definatly can13:17
|12jow12MonkeyDust: I'm planning to use it to learn programming13:17
bluenemothats good to know as i'm heavily remastering 12.04 since a few days. so no need to change bootloader :D13:17
WeThePeoplecan sombody walk me through a tar.gz install?13:17
MonkeyDust|12jow12  cable is much faster and more stable than wireless13:18
gimpy94How do I tell pulseaudio what my default soundcard is in 12.04-server with LXDE?13:18
Dr_WillisWeThePeople: totally dependsa on whats in it13:18
bluenemo:D13:18
gimpy94WeThePeople: It varies.  Is there an "INSTALL" file in it?13:18
jalexandruany reason for cups to wait 2-3 minutes until sending a job to a network printer?13:19
|12jow12MonkeyDust: Since i'm just 14 i life with my parents and they won't allow me  to place the pc downstairs in reach of the router13:19
MonkeyDust|12jow12  you may like this http://www.hackerhighschool.org/13:19
* Dr_Willis has several 100+ft cat 5 cables13:19
WeThePeopleits dr_willis, gimpy94, its here http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-shoutcast/13:19
|12jow12MonkeyDust: I'm not intrested in learning to hack, i just want to learn to program13:20
Dr_WillisWeThePeople:  look for a ppa is my advice for that tool13:20
MonkeyDust|12jow12  problem is wifi, it's not stable enough13:20
TJ-|12jow12: Linux is very good at keeping text log files of everything that happens. I suggest you look at some of those to see if there are clues as to why the network is disconnecting. From the dash, search for "Log file viewer" then open the log files /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log and see if you can see anything about the Wifi disconnecting and reconnecting13:21
* Dr_Willis just *Loves* how the term hack has been hijacked by the media13:21
* TJ- doesn't13:21
|12jow12MonkeyDust: So basically i have no other option then Ethernet?13:21
MonkeyDust|12jow12  it's a more stable start13:21
TJ-I've been hacking since 1979-ish and I shan't stop now :p13:21
Dr_Willisif you have poor wifi support - you can get cheap wifi dongles for like $10 that seem to work well for me13:22
|12jow12TJ-:  I'll have a look13:22
Dr_Willisgot a ethernet-to-wifi thing for $50 that makes the pc think its wired ;) no drivers needed at all13:23
BluesKaj|12jow12, your wifi dongle uses the ralink rt 28XX driver which can be difficult to configure on linux , or you can try wicd network manager which I had some luck with, No gurantees tho.13:23
WeThePeopledr_willis, what is a ppa13:23
bluenemoDr_Willis, cool, whats its name?13:23
Dr_Willis!Ppa | WeThePeople13:23
ubottuWeThePeople: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:23
Dr_Willisbluenemo:  some common linksys or netgrar gizmo. sold for game consoles mainly13:24
Dr_Willisits like a mini-router13:24
bluenemoah cool i see. how fast is it?13:24
|12jow12I'm suprised over the help i get here normally people just say:"Fuck off underaged fag and learn english".13:24
TJ-!language | |12jow1213:24
ubottu|12jow12: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:24
bluenemo|12jow12, there doesnt seem to be a problem with your english13:24
Dr_Willisfaster then the $10 usb dongle.. so 150+ i think13:24
* TJ- chortles @ bluenemo13:24
|12jow12Ubottu: I'm sorry13:25
bluenemowell i think he was fraising people. and he's 14.. but you are right TJ- , sorry13:25
BluesKaj!ubottu | |12jow1213:25
ubottu|12jow12: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots13:25
bluenemoubottu, is the bot :D he's not a person13:25
ubottubluenemo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:25
TJ-bluenemo: Indeed :D I love a good fraising13:26
Dr_Willisbest thing about usb type wifi.. you can get a usb extension cord and position it where you can get a good signal13:26
bluenemook then that word does not exist m) idk man :D13:26
|12jow12BlueKaj: oh, haha13:26
bluenemoquoting people?13:26
Dr_Willisor a can-tanna ;)13:26
MonkeyDust|12jow12  Dr_Willis is underage, too, or so i'm told13:26
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Dr_WillisI got grandkids...13:27
TJ-Dr_Willis is chuntering on :p13:27
Dr_Willisso get off my lawn!13:27
TJ-We'll be onto the price of soya next :p13:27
heke80hi tried to upgrade from ubuntu 8 to ubuntu10 , the damn thing stopped to some openoffice error ... I uninstalle it now , tring again...  any other precautions to do ?13:27
|12jow12MonkeyDust: An other *little* qeustion. Which Programming language do you recomend starting with?13:27
Dr_WillisTJ-: corn prices are going up ;) not soybeans13:27
LastVagranttHi all, I have a problem and I don't know how to phrase it so I'm having trouble searching for it. Basically my unity bar sometimes "forgets" I have windows open. So that I'll have a libreoffice document I'm working on, I'll alt-tab to another program and then I cannot alt-tab back to it and if I click on the libreoffice icon on my bar it opens a new document instead of going to the one that's already open. Has anybody got any ad13:27
Dr_Willis|12jow12: total beginer = python13:28
FormatHDDHi, does anyone know how to format a 3TB HDD in ubuntu? I managed to do it before on an older 3TB HDD as two partitions, but the new one shows as only 700GB. I don't remember what method I used previously.13:28
MonkeyDust|12jow12  python -- use 'quickly', it's in combination with Glade13:28
TJ-Dr_Willis: I know. I'm a farm boy born n bred... I get the privilege of living on the farm but doing this computer stuff for kicks13:28
heke80where can I find the upgrade log ?13:28
|12jow12Dr_WIllis: I'll search some tutorials about that13:28
MonkeyDust|12jow12  i rephrase: Quickly uses Glade to program in Python13:29
Dr_Willis|12jow12: 1000's of them ;)13:29
bluenemoDr_Willis, so in theory i should be able to just $ kvm ubuntu-12.iso?13:29
bluenemowithout -cdrom/13:29
bluenemo?13:29
* TJ- growls at the mention of Python!13:29
bluenemolol13:29
Dr_Willisbluenemo:  never used kvm. so no idea13:29
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bluenemoah ok. you should! ;) it rocks13:29
TJ-bluenemo: I think they've made qemu-kvm much more intelligent that it used to be13:29
bluenemoah yes it does work. i selected an old image. just kvm ubuntu.iso. awesome! nice work!13:30
FormatHDD3TB hard drive, anyone?13:31
MonkeyDust|12jow12  start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/13:31
bluenemowhat kind of question is that FormatHDD13:31
FormatHDDHi, does anyone know how to format a 3TB HDD in ubuntu? I managed to do it before on an older 3TB HDD as two partitions, but the new one shows as only 700GB. I don't remember what method I used previously.13:31
Andrilmorning all13:31
compdocFormatHDD, gparted is a great way to go13:31
Dr_WillisFormatHDD:  i just use gparted to partion  mine with no issues13:32
FormatHDDOK13:32
MaK10hey every113:32
bluenemoFormatHDD, shred -v -n 1 /dev/sda (if sda is your hdd)13:32
Dr_Willisno need to use 2 partitions13:32
compdocI like one large partition13:32
FormatHDDbluenemo: Thanks, I haven't tried that.13:33
bluenemoFormatHDD, it will wipe your hdd13:33
Dr_Willisi havent seen any bigger then 3tb hds.. i thought 4's were due out13:33
MaK10i just installed ubuntu 12 LTS.. getting major issues with ati driver and dual monitors.. with installing the ati. dual monitors works fine. but once installed it only stays mirrored13:33
bluenemoso be warned. it will overwrite everything with random data. start gparted after that13:33
bonhoefferTJ-: it booted automatically, do i need to re-install again?13:33
bluenemoDr_Willis, yes there are 4TB13:33
FormatHDDYes, its a brand new hdd from amazon, just arrived today. I need to wipe it anyway.13:33
bluenemoi'd do that too. i prefer to write random data before encrypting.13:34
TJ-bonhoeffer: You must have missed out on pressing the SHIFT key ... but never mind. As long as you have video, do the changes to /etc/default/grub and add that PPA and do the upgrade, then reboot13:34
Lost_CauseDr_Willis: there are 4tb http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Deskstar-3-5-Inch-Internal-0S03355/dp/B005TK3HNI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1344605641&sr=8-5&keywords=4+tb+hard+drive13:34
bluenemoFormatHDD, there is also the more comfortable option of ddrescue /dev/urandom /dev/sda. i very much like its output and other capabilities so i use it for all main dd stuff13:35
Dr_Willishavent seen them in stores.. i did get a 128gb ssd last week ;)13:35
Dr_WillisDdrescue reading from urandom. ;) thats.. amuseing13:36
bluenemois anyone around that has been or currently does administrate a server (or cluster of servers) only for the use of thin clients (for programmers)?13:36
bluenemo(with linux / ubuntu) :)13:36
Lost_Causei think you can only buy them online13:36
Lost_Cause!anyone | bluenemo13:37
ubottubluenemo: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:37
bluenemoDr_Willis, not at all, ddrescue is perfect for writing to disks and getting dead blocks overwritten as well. Lost_Cause i did ask that way because i have a lot of questions and in general i'm looking for somebody to chat about that topic that has high experience with the topic. i already asked a few times a few days ago, seems to be a less driven topic13:38
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FormatHDDThe 3TB HDD is detected to only have 700GB by the shred program13:40
bluenemoFormatHDD, then there is very much likely something wrong with the hdd.13:40
TJ-FormatHDD: That sounds like a weirdness. What does Linux kernel think it is?13:40
killer_why does rhythmbox keeps  on playing song even after clicking on close button of the rhythmbox window13:41
DSSAbluenemo, it sounds like I joined a few minutes too late.13:41
bluenemoDSSA, :)13:42
TJ-FormatHDD: Check on the kernel log with "grep '.*sd.*logical blocks.*' /var/log/kern.log"13:42
bluenemofast way to get info to propably dieing hdd's is also dmesg13:43
Lost_Causekiller_: you have to hit stop first.  rhythmbox is kinda of controlled by the shell.  that is why you can change what your listing to through the shell by clicking on the speaker option13:43
ShinobiHow long do installing the ca-certs take? This install seems hung at 65%13:43
StingerDoes anyone know how to enable Remote Desktop on Ubuntu 12.04?13:44
Anomie21Stinger: I use teamviewer - works well.13:45
TJ-Shinobi: When first installed a program has to be run against them to generate some other bits; that can take a few minutes I've noticed on some systems13:45
Sidewinder1FormatHDD, Perhaps that's only one partition?13:45
DSSAIf anyone can give me some advice, I'd appreciate it; I just had what I think is a HDD failure in my Ubuntu box that I was using as a file server.  I pulled the drive, and tried to read it on a windows box with a USB HDD reader to no avail.  Just loaded 12.04 onto a new HDD in the Ubuntu box, and tried reading the old HDD (once again with USB HDD reader) and I'm only able to see 255MB worth of13:45
DSSAspace on the old drive.  Gnome and some other Ubuntu stuff is on there, but I can't see any of the files that I was saving to that drive.  Any good way (program?) to use to try to access the data?  If it helps, the failure message I was getting with the old Ubuntu/Drive setup was a Kernel Panic - Not Syncing errror.13:46
ShinobiTJ - is there a way to see the system messages in a terminal?13:46
bluenemoDSSA, if you need the data do NOT PUT POWER back on the hdd before you've got a GOOD PLAN on what to do exactly13:46
TJ-Stinger: If you type "remote desk" into dash you'll get  options13:46
bluenemoeach second you leave a dieing hdd running it'll further break, costing you time to really recover data13:47
DSSAStinger: I'm no expert in the least, but would this help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/13:47
Sidewinder1DSSA, I believe that there is a data recovery program called TestDisk, that you might want to try.13:47
M3th4n0lHello i have a question not regarding linux primary but its regarding a IBM server13:47
StingerTJ-, Got it.  Thanks!13:48
DSSASidewinder1: Thank you--I'll start doing some research on that right now.13:48
M3th4n0lmy question is simple i have a server one of theese13:48
M3th4n0lhttp://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-6145813:48
Lost_CauseDSSA: windows wouldn't see your hdd because it most likely isn't ntfs.  did you try to slave it directly to your mother board and boot into new image you created and mount the possibly failed drive13:48
bluenemothere might be people around here with lots of knowledge about that topic, but for serious data recovery issues i recommend to look into #digital-forensic as well, i've known them for years, great channel. this channel however also offers professional advice (dont missunderstand me ;)13:48
M3th4n0lwill 2TB hard drives work with it ?13:48
Sidewinder1DSSA, My pleasure; I hope it helps.13:48
M3th4n0lbecause it says like this "Integrated SATA controller supports 80, 160, 250, 500 GB SATA HDs"13:48
M3th4n0li know that 2TB harddrives didnt exist in the market when the server was manufactured and i know that IBM havent updated their info regarding that but i just wanna know if it's compatible or not13:49
TJ-Shinobi: I'mnot entirely sure what system messages you mean. You can switch virtual terminals using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F7 and one of those may be receiving progress messages13:49
aleprovenciohello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?13:49
Lost_CauseM3th4n0l: as long as the motherboard on the server supports 2 tb drives.  you are going to have to look it up13:49
ShinobiTJ - Thx13:49
Lost_Causebut from what you just said it doesn't look like it will13:49
StingerCan someone address me by Nick please.  I am configuring sound in my chat client13:50
marahinHello everynyan! I am using Ubuntu 12.04, with Xinerama (dual screen); display0 is with gpu0 [Gtx580] and displa1 is with gpu1 [Gt9600]. Yet I have a problem when triggering "Display" utility of Ubuntu and trying to run Minecraft (it says <for Display utility> RANDR extension is not present, and for Minecraft it says <Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".>13:50
marahinStinger13:50
M3th4n0lLost_Cause, the motherboard on the server is a  IBM  M11iX13:50
Stingermarahin, Again please, if you don't mind13:50
marahinStinger13:50
Stingermarahin, Thx13:50
marahinNo problem!13:51
marahinDoes anyone have an idea what to do with that randr issue?13:51
subterfugeHow do I post/link to a screen shot so I can show you all my issue?13:52
MonkeyDustmarahin  explore xrandr, havent ued it myself, tho13:53
ClaximillionsWhere is the best place to learn commands for networking?13:53
TJ-marahin: I seem to recall that is caused by the nvidia driver not fully supporting randr13:53
Claximillionssubterfuge, if you save the screenshot as a file in something like paint, you can upload it to websites like tinypic.com13:53
TJ-marahin: I had an 'experience' along those lines a while back... randr works fine with the nouveau drivers, but not with nvidia13:53
subterfugeClaximillions: Thanks didn't know what one could link to here13:54
Lost_CauseM3th4n0l: i can't any completely relabile info about the limit on that motherboard but i am pretty sure that it won't read the 2tb drive13:54
Claximillionssubterfuge: Are there restrictions?13:55
mbeierl!pastbin | subterfuge13:56
mbeierl!pastebin13:56
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:56
marahinTJ-, what I am supposed to do right now then?13:57
FormatHDDGot disconnected, as I was saying: My previous 3TB also had same problems, I don't know how I eventually formatted it correctly. The other 3TB HDD is detected as 800GB when computers starting up in the post screen, but works fine.13:57
mbeierlsorry, subterfuge type there.  That's the most commonly recommended text and image sharing for the channel13:57
marahinWhile I had one screen powered on & working on Ubuntu, randr worked just fine (I could access "Display" utility on Ubuntu), and now it just pop ups the error.13:57
TJ-marahin: On the dash type "nvidia" there's a settings GUI13:58
ermajnhwo to find out witch service is using  my port 5313:58
TJ-marahin: I'm assuming you are using the nvidia proprietary drivers13:58
ermajnubuntu 12.413:58
TJ-ermajn: "sudo netstat -tnlap | grep 53"14:00
zAo^ermajn:  lsof -i14:00
zAo^or that :)14:00
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dweezport 53 is typically DNS14:02
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ShinobiI've been at 65% on install for a over 10 min. How long should I give this thing...14:03
zAo^Shinobi: what hardware? Server install?14:03
TJ-Shinobi: It's stuck!14:03
StingerI need a little more help with Remote Desktop Viewer.  Does anyone have any experience?14:03
ShinobiIt's 12.04 server I am reinstalling in a VirtualBox VM14:04
ShinobiIt worked fine before, but I wanted to reinstall. Now it's stuck... really od14:04
Shinobiodd14:04
zAo^Shinobi: what does TTY4 say?14:04
Shinobihow do I get to tty414:04
zAo^cntl + alt + F414:04
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ShinobiSo here's an interesting situation. I'm viewing it via rdp and cannot send the ctrl+alt+F4 signal because the local machine traps it.14:05
arnsaHello, could anyone suggest me any GUI for Linux Ubuntu which is much faster than Unity? Because my old laptop works really slow with Unity, I want something faster..14:05
Shinobianyway to send via rdesktop?14:06
TJ-Shinobi: Depend on the viewer, it may have a menu option to send special codes14:06
Fuchsarnsa: you might want to have a look at LXDE (lubuntus desktop)14:06
MonkeyDustarnsa  xfce14:06
Fuchsarnsa: but there are plenty of things to chose from, LXDE or XFCE for full desktop environments, and quite a lot of plain window managers like fluxbox14:06
zAo^Shinobi: dont know, virtual keyboard? :)14:06
arnsathank you guys. Which one is better, xfce or lxde?14:07
Fuchsarnsa: matter of personal taste14:07
Fuchsarnsa: feel free to try both14:07
arnsaokay, thanks a lot!14:07
zAo^arnsa: depends on your needs. XFCE is a little more like gnome14:08
Shogoothi good people! Any advice on what linuxdistro and torrent program i can use on my no to old laptop? i want to sett up excusive tortent box.14:10
TJ-Shogoot: Transmission deamon I use on one of my servers14:10
ShogootTJ-, is that a program?14:11
TJ-Shogoot: Yes14:11
ShogootTJ-, under what distro your using that?14:12
TJ-Shogoot: It also provides a simple web GUI for controlling it14:12
TJ-Shogoot: Ubuntu14:12
Shogootyou know if it work on lubuntu?14:12
TJ-Shogoot: It would work on any Linux system14:12
PiciShogoot: lubuntu is just Ubuntu with LXDE instead of Unity.14:12
narcosHi all. Does anyone know where to find squid's libexec folder on ubuntu?14:13
ShogootTJ-, ill check it ouot, thanks14:13
ghostchickbz,check your ssh14:15
StingerDoes anyone here use Xchat, and if so have you had problems getting alert sounds to work?14:15
|12jow12MonkeyDust: are you still here?14:16
|12jow12Dr_Willis: Are you still here?14:17
arnasI've just installed LXDE but I can't find the option how I can turn on dual-view?14:19
|12jow12Well, if anyone reads this: I had internet problems but they're now fixed because is use Wicd Network Manager and not the build in network thingy and now i can't install anything from the software market14:20
|12jow12Software center* sorry.14:20
muh2000hi all14:20
|12jow12Hi14:20
muh2000what is that: http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/whatisthat.png   ?14:20
|12jow12That's a link, silly14:20
zAo^:P14:21
zAo^Looks like a webcam icon?14:21
muh2000yes it does....14:21
muh2000but what app is behind that icon?14:21
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|12jow12Looks like a build in webcam viewer to me used to make video's and picture with the webcam offline14:22
Picimuh2000: Thats on Ubuntu?14:22
muh2000Pici: more or less... yes14:22
muh2000kubuntu14:22
Picimuh2000: You may want to ask in #kubuntu, more KDE folks there ;)14:23
Fuchsmuh2000: _could_ be kamoso, but hard to say without seeing the app14:23
subterfugeProblem: Display Issues --- Using NVIDIA X Server Setting Driver version 295.49 on Ubuntu 12.04  --- Please see this screen shot (  http://tinypic.com/r/a4225k/6  )for this explanation:    --- While configuring my detected LG brand TV that was connected via HDMI we selected 'Separate X Screen' from the options in the X Server.  When this enabled the display but produced a gray screen that would show a mouse but not a w14:23
subterfugeindow I switched to 'TwinView' which enabled a screen but disabled multiple work areas.  Through problem solving this I have gone back and forth between these settings.  Every time I do it creates a duplicate “tool bar” at the top and bottom of the screen along with duplicates of those items located there like my clock etc....  Here are my xorg.conf file (  http://pastebin.com/UYXgT64Y  )  --- My goal is to have a14:23
subterfugeworking duplicate or extension of of the currently selected work space --- Any and all help welcome, Thanks14:23
StingerWould a .conf file be likely to contain sound audio data?  I am trying to get my alert sounds working in Xchat.14:27
|12jow12I had internet problems but they're now fixed because is use Wicd Network Manager and not the build in network thingy and now i can't install anything from the software market14:27
muh2000Fuchs: kamoso is not installed.14:27
Skeeter-is it ok for a resize2fs to take over 100hours?14:28
TrollingForSoup|12jow12, The Ubuntu software center won't let you install anything?14:28
escottSkeeter-, its probably gone wrong somewhere14:29
|12jow12TrollingForSoup: No, i'm unable to click on install14:29
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jaysonsantosHi guys, I have a python module which was generated by wurfl2python and it has about 11MB, when I try to import it, kernel sends a SIGKILL to process, what that could be?14:29
Skeeter-escott: the resize is still going14:29
Skeeter-escott: about one X per 4hours14:29
Skeeter-if you know what i mean14:29
wrapidsI'm looking for the name of some software that can validate xml from the command line, for the life of me I can't remember what it's called.14:30
TJ-Skeeter-: how big is the file-system?14:30
escottSkeeter-, as a worst case it should take the amount of time to read and write the entire dataset twice. Unless the disk is enormous and very slow 100hours would be a bit too long14:30
Skeeter-escott: 16tb to 14tb and its luked14:31
Skeeter-TJ-: ^^14:31
TJ-Skeeter-: See you at christmas then14:31
Skeeter-luks'ed14:31
Skeeter-TJ-: O.o?14:31
wrapidsSkeeter-: he's buying you presents ^14:31
* TJ- blinks :O14:32
Skeeter-how come growing doesnt take that much time but shrinks does?14:32
TJ-Skeeter-: Because blocks have to be shuffled around to free up all the space you're losing at the end of the file-system14:32
escottSkeeter-, because growing just means creating inodes that are unallocated. shrinking the data has to be moved14:32
Sidewinder1Stinger, In my /home directory, there is a .xchat2 subdirectory; within that is a sound.conf file which contains the event handler and points to different sounds, located in different directories. If that makes sense; I hope it helps.14:33
Skeeter-TJ-: escott : i rather just convert-btrfs, wait 2 days, then the shrink will be instant14:33
samcoldham1what is the best coding ide platforms /software in ubuntu for html C++ etc...14:34
Dr_Willis!Ide14:34
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator14:34
Skeeter-TJ-: escott thing is, im moving all the data to another ext4 FS since the 1st ext4FS was 32bit, i couldnt grow pass 16TB14:34
Sidewinder1Stinger, For instance this is a line in that file "event=Channel Msg Hilight14:35
Sidewinder1sound=/home/de/Sound/nature2.wav"14:35
wrapids^^answer to my question was xmllint14:35
Skeeter-TJ-: escott do you have any better idea to move the data?14:38
escottSkeeter-, well you already started so you are committed now14:38
Skeeter-escott: well, after that resize, i cant change the way i can do it14:39
* Dr_Willis hopes backups are made14:39
Skeeter-Dr_Willis: not14:39
Dr_Willis2 days.. hope you got a generator or good ups..14:39
escottSkeeter-, if you need a single monolithic 16TB+ luks encrypted filesystem then you have to create it with the correct block size14:40
* Sidewinder1 Then hopes that there is no irreplaceable data involved.14:40
Skeeter-escott: i am not following you... the new ext4 i made, i added the -O 64bit14:40
escottSkeeter-, or do that14:41
JoeQueryIf I SSH into Comp B from Comp A, is it possible to configure my host file on Comp A to access the VM of Comp B?14:41
Skeeter-escott: u scared the shit out of me14:41
JoeQueryFor example, Comp B has a VM running nginx, and I want to view the sites on my Comp A14:41
subterfugeProblem: Display Issues --- Using NVIDIA X Server Setting Driver version 295.49 on Ubuntu 12.04  --- Please see this screen shot (  http://tinypic.com/r/a4225k/6  )for this explanation:    --- While configuring my detected LG brand TV that was connected via HDMI we selected 'Separate X Screen' from the options in the X Server.  When this enabled the display but produced a gray screen that would show a mouse but not a w14:42
subterfugeindow I switched to 'TwinView' which enabled a screen but disabled multiple work areas.  Through problem solving this I have gone back and forth between these settings.  Every time I do it creates a duplicate “tool bar” at the top and bottom of the screen along with duplicates of those items located there like my clock etc....  Here are my xorg.conf file (  http://pastebin.com/UYXgT64Y  )  --- My goal is to have a14:42
subterfugeworking duplicate or extension of of the currently selected work space --- Any and all help welcome, Thanks14:42
TJ-JoeQuery: Why not just SSH into the VM directly --- I assume it is connected to the network?14:42
carloshola buenas14:43
carlosalguien ha tenido problemas con el brillo de pantalla?14:43
TJ-!espana14:43
TJ-!es14:43
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:43
JoseeAntonioRcarlos: Puedes ir a #ubuntu-es para soporte en español :)14:43
carlosperdón, gracias JoseeAntonioR14:44
compdocJoeQuery, cant really tell what youre trying to do from what youve said. the VM cant be reached now?14:44
JoeQueryTJ-: I don't see an internal IP in ifconfig on the VM, I see a pseudo-public IP that I can't reach fro m another computer14:44
JoeQuerycompdoc: It's a VM running on my OS X, to my knowledge I can't reach it from outside my OS X machine. It's VMWare14:44
TJ-JoeQuery: Ahhh OK. You could set up a static route on your source PC telling it to route all packets for the VM via the VM's host IP14:45
benbrohow can I run: "sox something.ul something.wav" on all the files in a directory?14:45
rav_014hello just want to ask on how to upgrade on ubuntu linux?14:45
Dr_Willissubterfuge: use twi view and turn off the  show pan on all displays setting14:45
StingerCan someone address me by Nick.  I am working on my sounds in my chat client.14:45
compdocJoeQuery, should be able to with the right type of networking. I dont use vmware, so I cant say how to set it14:45
TJ-JoeQuery: something like "ip route add 192.168.2.4/32 via 10.254.254.1 dev eth0" and then ensure IPv4 forwarding is enabled on the VM's host14:46
Pici!test | Stinger14:46
ubottuStinger: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )14:46
Stingerubuntu_, Cool  Thanks.14:46
JoeQueryThanks TJ- , I'll look into it.14:46
Stingerubottu, Cool thanks14:46
JoeQuery:)14:46
Stinger#test14:46
Dr_Willis# denotes a channel name14:47
MeikelHey guys, i'm a starter wit Linux and i had started wit Ubuntu 12.04 . When i have any questions u guys can help in this chat here ?14:47
PiciMeikel: yes14:47
escott!manual | Meikel14:47
ubottuMeikel: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/14:47
rav_014just want to ask on how to upgrade on ubuntu linux from 10.04 to 12.04?14:47
JoeQueryTJ-: So I need to add the static route on my OS X machine if that's the machine running the VM,  correct?14:48
JoeQueryI'm not a networking person %-)14:48
sajanekhow can i sign release file in my own repo?14:48
TJ-JoeQuery: no, on your source PC. If the VM host already can talk to the VM, and to the source PC, then it already has the correct routes. You need to enable IPv4 forwarding (masquerading) on that host.14:49
JoeQueryAh, ok, gotcha now.14:50
pavanhello everyone, after an update yesterday when I login I get noitifcation as "new resolution modes" and "LCD rotation" and top panel and unity panel disappears, rest of the display works14:51
pavanplease help14:52
TJ-sajanek: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Setting_up_a_secure_apt_repository14:52
sajanekTJ- seen, but thanks14:52
sambassWWW.ubuntu.com14:52
markitoxs hi, I have two framebuffers, and I have used con2fb in order to redirect one of the tty's to the other fb, but its only active when i switch directly to it by ctrl+alt+f6, i.e. im running top, and when i go back to tty1 on the first fb, it kinda pauses14:52
sajanekTJ- I do everything like described, but release file was not signed and I have warnings14:53
sajanekbut gpg --sign path_to_file do the work14:53
sajanekthanks for helping me14:53
TJ-sajanek: sorry, I gave you the wrong link ... let me find the correct one. I was looking at the page on signing the releases file yesterday14:53
sambassje veut savoir comment-est qu'on peut mettre les figures dans la marge dans un document tex14:54
Sidewinder1!fr > sambass14:55
ubottusambass, please see my private message14:55
Stingerwhat is the terminal command to find a specific string of text in some larger blob of output?14:55
escottStinger, grep14:55
Stingerescott, Thanks!14:55
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fire_making alpha network awu036H as an access point ?14:56
TJ-sajanek: See the "Signing  the Release file" part of http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2009/04/howto:_uploading_to_people.d.o_using_dput/14:57
Dr_Willishmm14:57
pavanhello everyone, after updating yesterday when I login I get notification "New Resolution Modes" and "LCD Rotation" and as I result I don't get both top panel and unity launcher, using ubuntu 12.04, please help14:58
sajanekTJ- thanks!14:58
SkyKnightStrange error, couldnt understand from what is causing this, when I tried to drop and migrate the database I got this error http://paste.debian.net/183059/, any one have clue what is happening?15:00
Dr_Willispavan: as a test make a new user and see if it affects them15:01
sambassvoici mon mail pour ceux qui veulent m'aider: thee.home.boy07@gmail.com15:01
Fuchssambass: je recommende que tu poses ton question ici en anglais, ou en #ubuntu-fr en français. Mettre ton addresse dans un channel public n'est pas vraiement une bonne idée15:02
TJ-!fr15:02
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:02
sambassj'ai fais une erreur c'est : the.home.boy07@gmail.com15:02
ix_I've just deleted a movie by shift+detele, but it's still playing in mplayer, how do I recover it?15:02
ix_delete15:02
ix_damn thunar15:03
jribix_: pause the movie first15:03
jribix_: (so mplayer doesn't close)15:03
ix_it is paused15:03
TJ-ix_: Don't let the program close!15:03
ix_I don't15:03
TJ-ix_: second, get the programs process ID15:03
ix_how?15:04
bonhoefferTJ-: i have everything re-installed and my intel graphics look at lot better, but how do i increase the resolution15:04
TJ-ix_: At a terminal: "ps -ef" and look for the program15:05
jribix_: go to /proc/ and find the directory corresponding to the pid of the mplayer instance15:05
TJ-bonhoeffer: Not sure - presumably the Display applet in the System Settings?15:05
bonhoefferbonhoffer: in display the highest i can go is 1280x102415:05
bonhoefferi want 1920 x 120015:05
ix_ok, I found the PID15:06
ix_ok, I found the folder in /proc with that PID15:07
jribix_: open the fd subdirectory15:07
ix_now what?15:07
bonhoefferit seems like my only display is laptop, not the hg281D i'm running15:07
ix_yes15:07
ix_:D15:07
TJ-ix_: now do "ls -l fd/" directory (that's all the file descriptors)15:07
ix_I can see the link to the movie15:08
jribix_: now just copy it somewhere15:08
luminousqwhat would be a better distro15:08
ix_ok15:08
TJ-ix_: now use "cp" to copy that fd to another safe place15:08
luminousqEveryone keeps telling me ubuntu suxs15:08
papaipriyajit15:08
jribluminousq: have you tried ubuntu?15:08
TJ-luminousq: Ubuntu++15:08
papaianyone here??15:09
luminousqyeah since 10.1015:09
Alisson_BRYou speak portugues?15:09
jribluminousq: well, does it work foryou?15:09
luminousqwait ubuntu++?15:09
jrib!pt | Alisson_BR15:09
ubottuAlisson_BR: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.15:09
papaifrom india?????15:09
jrib!in | papai15:09
ubottupapai: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India15:09
luminousqof course it does...I kinda wanted to try something else just not sure what15:09
jribluminousq: #ubuntu-offtopic (ubuntu is a fine distro though)15:10
Sidewinder1Heh,.15:11
|12jow12Hey if i want to install a program from Software center with terminal but the name of the software had spaces what do i need to replace the spaces with?15:11
TJ-|12jow12: no software packages have spaces in them - although for "nice" display in GUIs they might be added. What's the package you want to install?15:12
|12jow12TJ-: VLC media player15:13
ix_jrib, TJ-, thank you, it worked, yay !!!15:13
TJ-|12jow12: "sudo apt-get install vlc"15:13
TJ-ix_: Nice one :)15:13
ix_:D15:13
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|12jow12TJ-: Oh , thank you i tried VLC but it didnt work and vlc did15:14
bonhoefferhow do i find out my monitor's designation (i.e. LVDS1)15:14
|12jow12TJ-: i feel stupid now15:14
TJ-|12jow12: package names are always lower-case, and never have spaces15:14
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TJ-bonhoeffer: Not sure but it should be obvious. LVDS is an inbuilt panel, HDMi is external connector, as is DVI VGA TV SVGA and so on15:15
bonhoeffer:) obvious for you! how, so HDMI should be the connector, how do it test?15:15
bonhoefferoh, xrandr15:16
bonhoeffersorry15:16
Dr_Willisive found very few things vlc wouldent play ;)15:16
bonhoefferTJ-: mine is just "default"15:16
bonhoeffer:<15:16
TJ-bonhoeffer: sorry... LVDS stands for Low Voltage Differential Signalling15:16
carlosyou know if i can install nvidia driver (from official website) with bumblebee?15:17
TJ-bonhoeffer: Hmmm, not sure then.15:17
Dr_Williscarlos:  you can try. it may or may not work15:17
carlosand may break my system xD15:18
Dr_Williswith bumblebee.. its possible15:18
bonhoefferi tried with xrandr but it things my monitor "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1904,1200) . . . maximum=(1280,1024)15:18
bonhoefferi know that is not the max of my monitor or on board graphics card15:18
carloshow can i stop X ?15:19
carlosfor nvidia instalation15:20
Dr_Willissudo service lightdm stop15:20
TJ-bonhoeffer: It has me stumped... not being there its really hard to picture it or figure it out15:20
Dr_Willisgood luck.....15:20
L3topbonhoeffer: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2   what is the last line?15:20
Dr_Willistoo late15:20
bonhoefferTJ-: got it -- i'm reading up15:20
L3topbonhoeffer: actually you could just pastebin the whole thing.15:22
arnasHey guys, I've just installed Xfce but why there's no "Settings Manager" in "Start > Settings"?15:22
bluenemois there a link i can use with wget to always get the latest build of the 64bit desktop .iso?15:22
bonhoefferL3top: well, it is a different computer: the last line is Kernel modules: i91515:22
bonhoefferit is a VGA compatible controller, Intel Corp 2nd gen integrated graphics15:23
bonhoefferL3top: does that help?15:23
L3topbonhoeffer: Ok... so intel graphics. That wouldn't be the problem then... it has the right driver.15:23
L3top!pastebinit | bonhoeffer15:23
ubottubonhoeffer: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com15:23
TJ-bluenemo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/15:23
ironhalikHello15:23
masroorIs there any way to disable some drivers in ubuntu :S15:24
masroor& there services15:24
TJ-masroor: Create a blacklist entry in /etc/modprobe.d/15:24
ironhalikI'm using a dual display setup, with secondary display being on the left of the main one (using nvidia twinview)15:24
ironhalikthe left side of the main monitor became extremely sticky lately15:24
L3topbonhoeffer: please sudo apt-get install pastebinit and give me the output of xrandr -q | pastebinit      it will spit out a url15:24
bonhoefferwill do -- one sec15:24
ironhalikIve got sticky edges disabled, dashboard reveals in the upper edge only, yet still, my coursour is cought every time15:25
bluenemodoes daily meen testing here? sorry i'm not so familiar with ubuntu (more debian), i'm remastering a ubuntu 64bit desktop, always just downloaded it plain from the ubuntu.com -> download and so on15:25
bluenemoTJ-,15:25
TJ-masroor: Or, for built-in drivers... add "<module_name>.blacklist=yes" to the kernel command line15:25
bonhofferL3top, i'm on the other computer now . . . one sec15:26
TJ-bluenemo: You said latest... so those are the latest 12.10 images rebuilt daily15:26
bonhofferhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139432/15:26
bonhofferfor L3top (and anyone else :)15:26
L3topbonhoeffer: also... how is this display physically connected, eg HDMI, LVDS (laptop moniter), DVI, VGA... and are there any adapters involved, eg DVI to VGA converter?15:26
bonhofferHDMI -- onboard to motherboard15:26
TJ-bluenemo: If you want precise images... the directories off here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/15:27
bonhofferHANNS-G monitor that can support 1900x120015:27
bonhoffer(native)15:27
bluenemoah ok thank you TJ-15:27
L3topso this is going to be a sandy bridge...15:27
TJ-bonhoffer: see my private chat to you15:27
bonhofferL3top, agreed15:28
dpwrussellIf I see a version like this: "4:4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu1" for a ubuntu package, what does that mean exactly?15:28
ix_is there a way to set window size in openbox?15:29
Dr_Willisix_:  try devilspie perhaps15:29
fernihmm 12.04 installer says /dev/sda contains some gpt info or something like that and asks yes/no ..either pressing either one does nothing.. (it was a ubuntu install with gpt first and then there was win7) ..well formatted it manually.. should write a bug report but..15:29
TJ-dpwrussell: version 4:4.7.0 of the upstream package, but really 4.6.0 with added patches, the 0ubuntu1 means 0 versions from Debian, and the 1st release from Ubuntu15:29
dpwrussellTJ-: thanks15:30
YorkeHi guys, can i installed ubuntu amd64 on my intel ia64 system? i cant seem to find an iso that matches15:30
Yorkeinstall*15:30
TJ-Yorke: no, not if my IA64 you mean Itanium15:30
masroorTJ i have to disable bluetooth, webcam and dvdrom of my laptop15:30
YorkeTJ-, yeah i have an itanium but i cant find an iso that matches15:31
bonhofferL3top, should i add something to xorg.conf15:31
bonhofferi thought i added the right ppa15:31
gregor3005hi, i need some help with ubuntu bootup from install usb stick, with qemu-i386 i have no problem to boot up an i386 install media from usb but on my laptop (i386cpu) i get "unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu". i have the i386 install media on an i386 cpu device, any hints?15:32
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HSarenaHi!15:32
L3topbonhoeffer: I haven't seen the xrandr output yet... and I am not positive, but do not know for sure, that you should be using a ppa... if you are on 1204 that is15:32
TJ-Yorke: the last one was for 10.04 I think:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/15:33
bonhofferL3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139443/15:33
TJ-L3top: He's using the PPA for a bug-fixed xorg driver15:34
Dr_Willistheres a i386 ubuntu? thought it was 486 minimum15:34
bonhofferTJ-, +1 that i am15:34
aleprovenciohello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?15:34
HyperbyteIs there any information somewhere on getting dual-touch screens working?  Right now the touch part of both screens spans the entire two-screen desktop.15:34
gregor3005Dr_Willis: thats the filename from the iso i have downloaded "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"15:35
unlessHello guys!15:35
L3topbonhoeffer: can you please sudo apt-get -yf install i965-va-driver   then log out and log back in and give me the xrandr -q | pastebinit   again15:35
Dr_Willisgregor3005:  i think that means its 32bit15:35
john515oy TJ- , how's it goin m8 ;)15:35
TJ-bonhoeffer: "xrandr --output default --mode 1904x1200_60.00"15:35
bonhofferL3top, doing that now15:35
TJ-john515: evening :)15:35
HSarenaI wanna to remove burg packages but  an error occurred here is that error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/15:36
unlessMy system is showing a error from time to time and I don know what to do, is there a simple way to verify what could be possible wrong here?15:36
sambassje veux que vous m'aidiez;  j'ai un problème sur le Tex. Au fait je veux mettre les figures dans la marge et je n'ai pas pu15:36
john515got some time for troubleshooting ? :P15:36
L3topTJ-: that looks like the xrandr he added, that is saying beyond range15:36
jrib!fr | sambass15:36
gregor3005ok, the device has an 32bit cpu, fedora i686 work on that device but i have troubles getting current fedora installed so i want to try if current ubuntu work15:36
ubottusambass: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:36
TJ-L3top: if so probably needs a new modeline generating and adding to that output15:36
kantlivelongis something broken with gnome-screenshot in 12.04?15:37
bonhofferTJ-, L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139453/15:37
L3topTJ-: I am pretty sure the driver translation of his hardware is at root of the problem. I believe no matter what we add beyond what is listed, it will do this.15:37
TJ-L3top: bonhoeffer I recall some time ago helping someone else with that monitor and having to create a custom modeline since the EDID top mode was wrong15:37
bonhofferL3top, hmm. . . xrandr looks the same15:38
TJ-L3top: bonhoeffer jsut be aware, bonhoeffer had to reinstall Precise and install from the PPA just to get something useable15:38
L3topok bonhoeffer... gimme a second.15:38
bonhofferTJ-, and thank you for that15:38
sambassmerci Ubottu , j'ai été de l'autre côté mais il n'y a personne15:39
L3topTJ-: yeah... i am thinking this is driver related, and no matter how we add this xrandr, it is going to explode.15:39
HSarenaI wanna to upgrade software but it's shows this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/ plz help me...15:39
jribsambass: seulement anglais ici15:39
L3topbonhoeffer: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2 | pastebinit15:39
TJ-L3top: have we checked for clues in Xorg.0.log at this point?15:39
L3topgood question.15:39
bonhofferhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139463/15:39
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bonhofferhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139464/15:40
bammzachhi, any quick shot advice why flash is not working on xubuntu 10.04/ firefox 14.0115:40
bonhoffermy xorg.0.log15:40
L3topcan you reboot bonhoeffer?15:40
bonhoffersure -- rebooting15:40
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L3topconfirm that the xrandr and the lspci stay the same15:41
bonhoeffergood thing i have two chat computers15:41
ClaximillionsWhat's the apt-get install name for network manager15:42
MonkeyDustClaximillions  nm-applet15:42
TJ-Claximillions: network-manager15:42
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ClaximillionsUnable ty TJ-15:42
ClaximillionsTy TJ- *15:42
L3topedid is being read correctly. It is driver related.15:43
HSarenawhat is this error????? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/15:43
luftikussHow to change the dispayed timestamp format in weechat 0.3.7 from hh:mm:ss to hh:mm?15:43
TJ-L3top: bonhoeffer That log shows the VESA driver in use ... it should be the intel driver15:43
bonhoefferTJ-: how can i switch?15:43
L3topbonhoeffer: can I see your xorg.conf15:43
luftikusss/dispayed/displayed/15:44
L3topit shows i915 as the kernel module in use... but yeah... it is using vesa15:44
bonhofferL3top, where is that -- i don't think i have one in the standard location15:44
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TJ-bonhoeffer: It should have automatically picked up the xorg-intel driver (the one from the PPA)15:44
bonhoffer/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d <-- ?15:44
L3topthen lets make one if it doesnt exist bonhoeffer. /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where it goes.15:44
bonhofferyes, that definitely doesn't exist15:44
TJ-L3top: there was no xorg.conf last time ... log file shows none in use now either15:44
MonkeyDustTJ-  idd, there is no xorg file by default15:45
L3topbonhoeffer: if you are using unity, please shut it down with sudo service lightdm stop15:45
TJ-bonhoeffer: I think the issue right now is the xorg-intel driver not being used. Strange.15:45
TJ-MonkeyDust: That is correct... unless one has been created manually.15:46
MonkeyDust!xorgconf > TJ-15:46
ubottuTJ-, please see my private message15:46
HSarenaI can't upgrade my package.... plz help... this is an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/15:46
L3topbonhoeffer: TJ- we are going to force it with an xorg.conf for the moment unless someoene has a better idea15:46
da_creating a simple bash script for temperature but this isnt working anyone know why? if [ "$TEMP" \> 23  &&  "$TEMP" /< 25 ] ;  then15:46
bonhoefferL3top: TJ- i have to run, sorry, i'm missing a meeting15:46
L3topbonhoeffer: with X shut down, in terminal type Xorg -configure15:46
L3topbonhoeffer: ok then15:46
L3topAnother time15:46
TJ-bonhoeffer: ok call me later if you need more help15:46
bonhoefferany get smart links greatly appreciated15:47
TJ-bonhoeffer: Coffee!15:47
johnianyone here has any experience with controling user's dn/up bw?15:47
johnion ubuntu.15:47
HSarenaHi! I can't upgrade my package.... plz help... this is an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/15:47
MonkeyDustHSarena  is that the complete screen? i bet you've got sources from old releases15:48
johnii have 100mbit-FD connection with 1tb hd. i would like to add 4 users and limit each one of them to 10mbits and 200gb of hd. how can i do that?15:48
StevenRjohni: filesystem quotas and some traffic shaping.15:49
johnicould you be more specific please?15:50
skpldoes anyone know why ubuntu 2d might be running slow on my machein15:50
TJ-johni for storage use "quotas", for bandwidth see http://askubuntu.com/questions/776/how-i-can-limit-download-upload-bandwidth-in-ubuntu15:50
moinI am using this command [iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876 ] to forward DNS udp packets to port 9876, where my java app is listening. However, that interferes with my browser-internet connection, is their a cleaner or better way to get packets [in/out]bound to port 53 forwarded to port 9876?15:50
HSarenaMonkeyDust : Yes, when i want to remove burg, this error was shown : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/15:52
MonkeyDustHSarena  what do you get when you type sudo apt-get update? anything different from precise?15:53
johnitj- this link is refering to limiting the entire OS, one network interface, single application. none of these are good for me.15:53
johnii need to limit a single user15:53
blkperlHi guys, I'm trying to get Precise working with nfs mounted homedirs and on login dconf-service hangs, the open file is $USER/.config/dconf/user and when you try to ls it hangs as well.15:53
moinI am using this command [iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876 ] to forward DNS udp packets to port 9876, where my java app is listening. However, that interferes with my browser-internet connection, is their a cleaner or better way to get packets [in/out]bound to port 53 forwarded to port 9876?15:54
TJ-johni: You'd need to dig into the kernel netfilters internals; Shorewall can help you but its a complex task15:55
StevenRjohni: how do the users access their 200GB quota?15:55
TJ-johni: I'd think creating a VLAN for each user would be easiest, then limiting the bandwidth on each VLAN15:55
HSarenaMonkeyDust : no, works normally, nothing different15:56
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HSarenaMonkeyDust : but when i use sudo apt-get upgrade, this error was shown : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139492/15:58
luftikussHow to change the dispayed chat_time format in weechat 0.3.7 from hh:mm:ss to hh:mm?15:59
MonkeyDustHSarena  idd, try this   apt-get -f install15:59
jribluftikuss: try: /set *time*    for starters15:59
Arashwhat does apt-get -f install do MonkeyDust ?16:00
MonkeyDustArash  -f means fix16:00
luftikussjrib: What do you mean by "for starters"?16:00
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HSarenaMonkeyDust : I try this but, please see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139497/16:00
jribluftikuss: it will give you information which you must then parse16:00
luftikussjrib: I will try.16:01
jribluftikuss: for ignoring parts and such see the filter command.  Have you checked the weechat user documentaiton?  It's pretty good: http://weechat.org/doc/16:01
HSarenaMonkeyDust : I try sudo apt-get upgrade again, but .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139503/16:03
MonkeyDustHSarena  this lines comes back several times "Generating burg.cfg ..."16:04
MonkeyDust/usr/sbin/burg-probe: error: cannot stat `/boot/burg/locale'.16:04
MonkeyDustlooks some locales issue?16:05
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HSarenaMonkeyDust : so, what can i do??16:05
MonkeyDustim thinking16:05
SansitazitionAnyone in here know if it is possible to use Daemon Tools to run a LiveCD?16:05
luftikussjrib: I have found  http://weechat.org/doc/ already and I am studying it. I agree that it is pretty good.16:06
MonkeyDustfrankly, i've never used burg myself16:06
MonkeyDustSansitazition  in windows?16:06
SansitazitionYes16:06
discoveredHey, I am planning to buy a core i7 MacBook which will natively supported by Ubutnu OS... Any recommendation please?16:06
jribluftikuss: ok, just search for "filter" and the example there tells you how to ignore joins/parts/quits16:07
MonkeyDustSansitazition  daemon tools is to 'mount' a cd, is it not?16:07
jrib!mac | discovered16:07
SansitazitionYes16:07
ubottudiscovered: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages16:07
HSarenaMonkeyDust : thanks a lot ;)16:07
jribdiscovered: check the wiki (though I'm not sure the mactel pages are actively maintained still)16:07
MonkeyDustSansitazition  try it, the best way to find out16:07
ThinkT510discovered: don't macs usually come with broadcom wifi?16:07
johniTJ- thank you for the answer. but making a vlan for each user and then limit the vlan is not possible when you only have ssh root access right? you need access to the router itself no?16:07
MonkeyDustHSarena  maybe check your locales16:08
gregor3005problem: i want to install ubuntu on an 32bit cpu (intel pentium mobile 1,5ghz) i dowloaded the file "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso" and i  get "unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu". any hints? unter qemu-i386 ubunut boots up16:08
HSarenaMonkeyDust : how??16:08
jribThinkT510: the broadcom wifi works fine in my experience (since the sta driver)16:08
SansitazitionOkay, I'll try, just wanted to know before trying.16:08
MonkeyDustgregor3005  you need the 32 bit iso16:08
sambassjrib envoie moi ton mail16:08
TJ-johni: Hmmm, sounds like you have an unsolvable problem16:08
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Sidewinder1gregor3005, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning?16:08
jribsambass: i think it's better to wait in #ubuntu-fr, just be patient16:09
discoveredThinkT510, Dunno much about mac . I want to get one as it is good brand with nice configuration16:09
MonkeyDustHSarena  i'm sure someone can help better16:09
gregor3005Sidewinder1: thx i check it and give you feedback (but under qemu it boots up)16:09
inininhmmmmm16:09
gregor3005MonkeyDust: which file is the 32bit iso file? i downloaded "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"16:09
HSarenaMonkeyDust : thanks ;) who??16:09
ThinkT510jrib: is the sta driver open source reverse engineered?16:09
Sidewinder1gregor3005, If it boots on another machine, the ISO is probably fine.16:10
jribThinkT510: i think it's closed and released by broadcom (don't quote me)16:10
luftikussjrib: I have searched for "filter" and have managed to ignore joins/parts/quits successfully yet some time ago. --  Thank you.16:10
jribluftikuss: ok great16:10
johniyea i could figure this out myself haha tj-16:10
johni:)16:10
gregor3005Sidewinder1: ok, but i though an intel pentium cpu like mine is an 32bit cpu that should boot with that iso, i download the 64bit iso and try it (but i'm really sure that this will not work on that older cpu)16:11
johniwell thank you for your help , i believe for the second thing with the quota you do have a sloution for me?16:11
luftikussjrib: WeeChats command grammar sometimes includes two '*' characters (asterisks). What do the asterisks mean?16:11
jribluftikuss: it's like globbing in the shell, are you familiar with it?  Basically, it means "any characters here"16:12
Sidewinder1gregor3005, 64 bit hdw usually will run 32 bit software; not the other way around. Just d/l the 32 bit version and go from there.16:12
luftikussjrib: Thank you for explaining.16:13
MonkeyDustHSarena  repeat your question every few minutes, i'm sure someone will pic it up16:13
meohello, i have usb wifi tenda w311u+, rt2800usb, ubuntu 12.04,  3.3.6-030306-generic .  problem is the speed, download is max 100kB/s, and it feels even slower,  but on windows, it goes 7x faster.... any ideas?16:13
gregor3005Sidewinder1: thx, but why will the 32bit iso not boot on that laptop?16:14
meoumm ubuntu 12.04 x6416:14
TJ-gregor3005: your failed boot problem is probably because the CPU is old and does not support PAE (processor address extensions) ... Ubuntu only ships PAE kernels now... you'd need to install the mini ISO (which is, we believe, the only ISO with the non-PAE kernel in it)16:15
Sidewinder1gregor3005, I have no idea, sorry. You might try researching any and all error messages that may, hopefully, appear.16:15
gregor3005TJ-: ah thats sounds rigt, i search an non PAE iso16:15
MonkeyDustpae is what came to my mind16:15
gregor3005PAE is the extension to support more than 4gb ram on 32bit cpu's?16:16
TJ-gregor3005: We had it earlier and I couldn't find any definitive information, but several reports of non-PAE apparently booting using that mini iso16:16
TJ-gregor3005: Correct16:16
Sidewinder1TJ-, gregor3005 I am not familiar with PAE; all I know is that 10.04 desktop, runs fine on this antique machine, of mine; circa 2002!16:17
TJ-Sidewinder1: until Natty Ubuntu used the non-PAE kernels as the default but with more systems having large RAM decide to switch to PAE16:18
HSarenais there anyone has worked with burg???16:18
YorkeTJ-, how would i get ubuntu 12 on my ia64 if there is no install for it?16:18
VivekanandHi, I need help with Mobile Broadband in ubuntu 12.04.  Can anyone help me ?16:18
gregor3005TJ-: do you have a link for me to that mini iso? i did not find it on an mirror like http://ubuntu.lagis.at/releases/12.04/16:18
TJ-Yorke: You don't I guess... not unless you want to build the software yourself!16:19
tkingh16:19
aLeSDhi all16:19
YorkeTJ-, ok thanks, debian has one, ill go with that distro16:19
TJ-gregor3005: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/16:19
gregor3005thx16:20
VivekanandAnyone know how to enable Mobile Broadband option in network manager ?16:21
theadminVivekanand: "enable"? It should be on by default16:21
netzapperhey, I'm trying to install the proprietary AMD graphics drivers on my laptop (the ones ATI, not the package manager version). It's completely refusing to detect the laptop monitor as a controllable monitor. I've fiddled with the xorg.conf extensively, trying everything from the pregen version to no xorg.conf at all. None of it seems to enable openGL on the main screen/display.16:21
Sidewinder1TJ-, Are you suggesting that I will experience problems when I upgrade this antique to Precise?16:21
theadminVivekanand: Never mind. Huh. I can't find anything related to it in the repositories... That's weird16:23
lingolatzHello all, I am doing a high school project regarding Linux distributions and ask that you would complete this survey at: goo.gl/SZ2Xw thank you :)16:23
theadminnetzapper: You accidentally a word. But why not the repo version?16:23
TJ-Sidewinder1: I believe but cannot confirm, that on an upgrade when there is a non-PAE CPU, the existing kernel is left in place. I *think* read that on the ubuntu-devel mailing list some time ago, but my memory is foggy16:23
Vivekanandtheadmin, sorry I am laggin16:23
VivekanandMobile Broadband option in the network manager isnt visible16:24
Vivekanandit was there 2 days back16:24
netzappertheadmin: I did accidentally a word. Honestly, because I'm a game developer and I tell my users to use the latest official drivers, so it seems that I should develop on them. (Also, the repo versions don't come with all the delicious headers and extra libraries.)16:24
Vivekanandthen I installed Mobile Partner software from the datacard after which i cant see Mobile Broadband16:25
Sidewinder1TJ-, Thanks for the response; if it does, it'll be a good excuse to debate a new system, with wifey.. ;-)16:25
TJ-Vivekanand: I think you need the "modemmanager" package and its dependencies16:25
centrelinklingolatz that's a terrible survey for a linux user16:26
luftikussjrib: My command '/set  weechat.look.buffer_time_format = "%H:%M"' was successful. --  Thank you very much for your help.16:26
TJ-Sidewinder1: Well you don't need to worry... There are non-PAE kernels for Precise in the archives - they just aren't used on the main ISOs16:26
lingolatzcentrelink, how so?16:26
centrelinklingolatz: wouldn't the logical answer to all those questions for a linux user be "yes"16:26
lingolatzDang it. Wrong survey. One second, thank you centrelink16:27
Vivekanandguys anyone knows about the Mobile Broadband bug where its not visible in the network manager ?16:27
FrozenFireDoes anyone have info on what the update schedule for Ubuntu (particularly, Ubuntu Server) tends to be?16:27
FrozenFireThat is, when are updated packages released into the mainline repos16:27
gregor3005TJ-: the mini iso stuck after i select install :-(16:27
centrelinkFrozenFire: major release every 6 months october and april16:27
FrozenFirecentrelink, Nah, not distro versions. Package updates16:28
TJ-Vivekanand: Looks like its a partial known bug #95589316:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 955893 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "Mobile broadband unavailable in nm-applet " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95589316:28
VivekanandTJ, checking16:28
TJ-Vivekanand: Make sure modemmanager is installed and I think nm-applet will show the "Mobile Broadband" tab16:29
Vivekanandmodemmanager is there TJ16:29
TJ-Vivekanand: grrr! that's the easy solution out the window then!16:29
Vivekanandi checked it16:29
TJ-Vivekanand: let me check here what the source code in nm-applet is looking for to show that tab... give me a few mins16:30
luftikussVivekanand: You can prbably find that yourself in Launchpad by the catchwords »NetworkManager« and »Mobile Broadband«.16:30
Vivekanandsure TJ, thanks for ur time16:30
Vivekanandluftikuss, checking ... my problem now is I am online through Mobile Partner software issued by the device ... its speed is limited around 50 kbps speed, so taking time for me load pages16:31
luftikussVivekanand: Ah, I see. That's a handicap.16:32
dylan_How do I set up a static IP address?16:32
dylan_in Ubuntu16:32
Vivekanandluftikuss, yes16:33
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dbelwrHi, is it possible to configure more than one APN for a 3G card in network manager?16:33
blkperldylan_: `man interfaces`16:33
TJ-Vivekanand: If you right-click the network icon, is there an option "Enable Mobile Broadband" ?16:35
dbelwryes16:35
VivekanandTj, not there .... it was there before I installed the Mobile Partner software16:35
lingolatzcentrelink, the correct survey is located at: goo.gl/sTuyW16:35
Vivekanandbut its gone after installing it16:35
dbelwri have configured 1 apn already but i need a 2nd which i can choose16:35
TJ-Vivekanand: "Mobile Partner" ... what's that? Is that something from Ubuntu?16:36
HSarenaI try sudo apt-get upgrade again, but this error was showns :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139503/16:36
VivekanandTJ: its the software issued by the usb dongle provider16:36
TJ-Vivekanand: That sounds suspect to me. It sounds like that software is the reason for this problem.16:36
theadminTJ-: That's a Huawei program. Written in Java, manages their USB 3G modems.16:36
theadminTJ-: Normally works fine...16:37
kantlivelonganyone here using 12.04 x64 and have openjdk working in chrome?16:37
VivekanandTJ: i fully feel mobile partner is the culprit16:37
Vivekanandbut I want to know to to get that option back16:37
theadminkantlivelong: Appears to be impossible. Either use Chromium or Oracle Java.16:37
OPPressedHey, I'm having problems with booting Ubuntu 12.04 and AMD fakeraid.. It worked fine in 10.04, I installed everything ok with the proper dmraid setup and installed GRUB too /dev/mapper/isa_bafhjbhdae_RAID_Volume1 but I'm still getting a no OS error with no grub16:37
kantlivelongtheadmin: i meant chromium srry :)16:38
OPPressedshould i install GRUB to an actual parition? ie the linux root parition16:38
OPPressedor do i need to make a /boot parition16:38
Vivekanandtheadmin, its working fine for me, infact I am online through it now ... but its speed is limited i dont know why it doesnt connect to the 3g network16:38
theadminkantlivelong: Huh. Then it's supposed to work just fine, just do a "sudo apt-get install icedtea-{6,7}-plugin"16:38
OPPressednone of the solutoins i have found on google have worked for me16:38
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theadminOPPressed: Uh, you install GRUB to the MBR of your drive.16:38
theadminOPPressed: The configuration is in /boot, and it doesn't matter if it's a separate partition.16:39
OPPressedok i did that though, i installed it to the fakeraid volume16:39
kantlivelongtheadmin: yeah.. thats what i figured.. its a no go.. i see icedtea erros in chrome stdout/err. both 6 and 7 do the same16:39
OPPressedwhich would be the mbr16:39
luftikussdylan_ Put it in /etc/network/interfaces. For more information, see 'man 5 interfaces'.16:39
MikieHi, I'm currently settings up a NAS running Ubuntu Server and I'm wondering whats the best option for sharing protocals.. I want to have NFS for my media center to connect to which runs a linux based OS but I also have windows machines that dont play well with NFS. Can I share everything through both SAMBA and NFS or is there a better way? Thanks16:39
OPPressedtheadmin, do you know what I mean when I refer to fakeraid?16:39
TJ-Vivekanand: Is it possible that "Mobile Partner" software actually replaced the Ubuntu nm-applet ?16:40
theadminOPPressed: Software raid I guess or something, but... I'm not into that16:40
VivekanandTJ: , theadmin : any suggestions ??? shall i try to remove modemmanager and reinstall it ?16:40
VivekanandTJ: I have the output of that installation, shall I share it ?16:40
TJ-Vivekanand: no, leave modemmanager. You need to focus on what that "Mobile Partner" installs!16:40
TJ-Vivekanand: please :)16:40
Vivekanandok gimme me a min16:40
OPPressedtheadmin, ok then what you said doesnt make sense16:40
OPPressedanyone else?16:40
TJ-OPPressed: You need to ensure GRUB has installed a dmraid driver... I'm not sure if there is one16:41
theadminkantlivelong: Hm... Java works in Firefox but not Chrome/Chromium for me :/16:41
kantlivelongtheadmin: chromium bug then maybe?16:41
OPPressedIt worked fine with my last install(10.04) I forget where I installed grub for that setup though :(16:41
theadminkantlivelong: I'd assume so.16:42
dylanI'm looking at man interfaces, I have no idea what this means16:42
kantlivelongdang16:42
TJ-OPPressed: It would. GRUB has moved on to a newer more modular system now16:42
eph3meralin XFCE, I'm having some weird issues where occasionally (not all the time, but very very often) when I click on a window and let go, it's as if my mouse hasn't registered that I let go, so the window is stuck to my cursor and I'm in "window move mode" until I click again - I have been googling for a while, but I have no idea how to explain this problem to google to get the results I want - has anyone else seen or had this problem16:42
eph3meral on Ubuntu 12.04?16:42
VivekanandTJ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139561/16:42
eph3meralsorry for xpost16:42
Vivekanandthere airtel is the ISP name16:42
eph3meralnot sure if this is an XFCE issue or an Ubuntu specific issue - afaik I'm not using the "ubuntu" xfce config, I just chose "default xfce config" the first time I logged in16:43
dylanHow do I set a static IP in Ubuntu?16:43
OPPressedhrm16:43
eph3meraldylan, network adapters control panel16:43
TJ-Vivekanand: I think I can see why. It looks as if that package installs it's own CDC driver, which network manager won't know how to talk to probably16:43
eph3meraldylan, depends on your desktop environment, are you on Unity? (the Ubuntu default)16:43
dylaneph3meral: yes unity is what I am using16:43
n00blarhi there16:44
theadmindylan: Right click the networkmanager icon, edit connections, find yours, click edit, go to IPv4/IPv6 tab and set the IP(s)16:44
VivekanandTJ: I am clueless abt CDC16:44
TJ-Vivekanand: Also, you'll notice it installs a modeswitch ... that's to switch the USB device between storage mode and modem. I am wondering if that isn't happening and your PC is currently seeing the dongle as a USB storage device?16:44
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VivekanandTJ : the usb-devices output shows the device as usb-storage sometimes16:45
dylantheadmin: what is "netmask" and "gateway"16:45
TJ-Vivekanand: haha.  I see it installs "/etc/init.d/runhwactivator"  ... pastebin that script for me, lets find out what it is up to16:45
VivekanandTJ: checked now too, it still shows as usb-storage .... ok pasting it16:45
VivekanandTJ output of usb-devices ?16:46
n00blarim trying to install ubuntu... but it freezes when I try to install. it does not even start. boot the disk, shows a wallpaper, plays a sound, freezes. Same when I try to install Zorin16:46
kantlivelongtheadmin: can u do me a fav and post the stdout/err u get from chromium? i cant access the PC having the issue at the moment and cant find the same err16:46
theadmindylan: The second one would be your router's IP address... You don't *have* to specify the netmask if I recall correctly.16:46
sanguisdexany one have a solution data recovery?16:46
CandlehawkHello, I have some minor issues. Last time I was here, my second monitor did not work, that was talked through and fixed, however dual-monitor+Unity=buggy as hell.16:46
theadminkantlivelong: Alright, give me a second16:46
dylanifconfig16:46
kantlivelongtheadmin: appreciate it16:46
CandlehawkBasicly, my lense menu (or whatever it is called) is now pitch black, and a lot of the graphics are not showing up.16:47
kantlivelongtheadmin: i think i found a report @ ubuntu.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/103185716:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025553 in icedtea-web (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #1031857 Plugin fails to load in Chrome" [High,Confirmed]16:47
eph3meraldylan, ok well in the top right of your screen, in the top "menu bar" there should be an icon for your network connection(s)16:47
eph3meraldylan, if you click this icon, there should be an option called "edit network connections" or something similar16:47
CandlehawkAnd the Unity icon bar is showing up on both screens, where one of them is black and the other is blue.16:47
VivekanandTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139570/ full output of usb-device .... last 2nd one is regarding huawei modem16:47
eph3meraldylan, click that, choose your connection, click edit, change it to be static instead of DHCP16:47
eph3meraldylan, done16:47
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CandlehawkAnd also, whenever I try to click on a top bar menu item, it goes away right away.16:48
CandlehawkBasicly, all aspects of Unity have bugged out due to the second monitor.16:48
MindALotQuestion for those who know ipods : Anyone know of a Linux compatible music program that supports nested playlists on the Ipod classic/nano ?16:48
TJ-Vivekanand: looking16:49
theadminkantlivelong: Well, here's what I get: http://hastebin.com/jowelikuci.txt16:49
kantlivelongtheadmin: yeah that was it16:49
kantlivelongso then yes #1025553 is the correct bugid16:49
TJ-Vivekanand: now show me the simple output of lsusb so I know the ID the device is presenting16:49
VivekanandTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139578/ it is runhwactivator as u asked16:50
kantlivelongmilestone set for 12.04.1 which is 8-23.. /me hopes16:50
VivekanandTJ : --- Bus 002 Device 005: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/Networkcard16:50
CandlehawkCan I just get a responce? I'll be happy to wait until you are done with whoever first, of course.16:50
Vivekanandlsusb output for that device16:50
Candlehawkresponse*16:50
mowolI am having problems with several development environments on top of each other (avr, opencv, ros, c++, java etc), so i would like a way to seperate them. I was thinking of running all development environments through an instance in virtual box, sharing workspaces to the actual computer through ubuntu one (for backup purposes) and then use the actual computer to all other things. Any ideas or thoughts about this?16:51
jribCandlehawk: if someone knows the answer, they'll reply16:51
eph3meralok,, system update, still having the same issue(s) - totally weird, really hard to reproduce accurately also - seems almost random, but still happens a good 50% of the time I click on almost anything it seems16:52
MindALothrm.. topic based subchannels.  You could select which topic you want to engage on. People posting new questions could open a new topic..and they could be closed once resolved... unfortunately, it requires work and knowledge, and not all of the current irc clients would support it. /ramble16:52
theadminmowol: Likely won't work. VirtualBox uses shared folders as networked drives (I think it's samba) and you may run into many problems when trying to execute stuff from them16:53
TJ-Vivekanand: I think you need to remove the "Partner Software" ... from what I see, the Ubuntu usb-modeswitch already supports that device16:53
eph3meralmowol, TJ-, using SSHFS seems to solve that problem rather nicely from my experience, ymmv16:54
mowoltheadmin:  i dont mean to actual use the ubuntu one folders as workspaces, but using it to share it when i need to backup16:54
VivekanandTJ: i uninstalled the software and tried ... but the mobile broadband option is not coming back16:54
HelpMeeeeHi there. I want to install ubuntu but it freezes :(16:54
TJ-Vivekanand: looks like it broke something and doesn't clean up after itself16:54
Vivekanandexpecyted that :(16:55
eph3meralHelpMeeee, check, the md5sum of your download first16:55
HelpMeeeewhats that? Im totally new.16:55
mowoltheadmin: i have a few friends who uses this methods on their macs, which seems to work very nice16:55
VivekanandTJ: anyway to restore it ??? is that possible ?16:55
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TJ-Vivekanand: anything's possible... if we can figure out what it's messed up16:56
VivekanandTJ : :)16:56
Shirakawasunamowol: I have never done anything like that, but have you considered using virtual environments for each one - shared core tools, but a separate path for each language installed in e.g. your home folder or /usr/local . You enter each environment with a command (that you could put into a script) like export PATH=/home/javapath/bin/:$PATH && cd /home/projects/java/16:56
Shirakawasunaor chroots16:56
mowolShirakawasuna: its the depencies of packages that become the problem. If i try to install something i cant because i have the wrong version of something else etc16:56
mdhHelpMeeee: at which point does it freeze?16:56
VivekanandTJ: do u need the content on the install scripts ???16:56
Shirakawasunamowol: I see. So the only solution is to have both installed in separate ways, yes?16:57
Shirakawasunamowol: so that e.g. a specific java dependency is one version and the one that c++ needs is another version16:57
guest-l3lYMk/www.rizon.net16:58
mowolShirakawasuna: that's what i think will work best. And virtual machines are relatively easy to work with16:58
HelpMeeeeon ubuntu it goes till it loads a background, then it makes a sound (like a bootup sound) then the waiting curser freezes. can still move the mouse, but nothing happens. no option to install, nothing. Same thing with Zorin.16:58
Shirakawasunamowol: chroot isn't a bad idea there either, though others may know better. Since if it's virtual machines you'll be installing a ton of packages anyways.16:59
Shirakawasunamowol: and you can also write little bash scripts to make entering e.g. the java chroot easy16:59
mdhHelpMeeee: i'd try to check the disc from the disc itself, because even if the md5 of the download is correct there could have been a misburn.16:59
mowolShirakawasuna: hopefully it will be one-time-only installation of packages, so i wouldnt mind. I was just interested if any had done something entirely different17:00
Shirakawasunamowol: You can then also control very tightly how minimal of an installation you want17:00
TJ-Vivekanand: If you can point me to where I can download the entire installer, I can run it in a chroot and see what it changes17:00
netzapperhow can I control CPU scaling?17:00
VivekanandTJ: i dont know the online location but I can zip those stuff and give it to u ... ok ?17:00
MindALotI'll take silence as an answer to no one knowing of a software program that supports nested playlists on an ipod classic/nano for Linux.17:00
TJ-Vivekanand: That should work17:01
Vivekanandok, gimme a min17:01
HelpMeeeeI burnt Zorin on 2 dvds, and ubunto on a cd. Im booting them directly from the disks. Zorin freezes on the same spot on both times. I dont think a missburn can cause that17:01
CandlehawkMindALot: Which ones have you tried?17:01
MindALotcandlehawk : bansee and rythmbox.  I looked up clementine, and they said they don't support it (in their irc channel).17:01
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MindALotI think banshee flattened my playlist on the ipod that I connected too :(17:02
TJ-Vivekanand: I think I've got the package direct from the Huwei web site17:02
CandlehawkMindALot: Damn, I would have thought either of those would have worked. Hm. Try alternativeto.net, perhaps?17:02
Shirakawasunamowol: a chroot will have the advantage of speed and having everything still be on your local filesystem17:02
ThinkT510HelpMeeee: zorin isn't supported here17:02
mdhHelpMeeee: can you describe the hardware you're trying to install it to? have you been able to install other *nixes in the past?17:02
VivekanandTJ: we dont know which one it is ... but anyways give it a try17:03
mowolShirakawasuna: i will look into it ;)17:03
Shirakawasunamowol: virtualbox has a bit of an overhead17:03
Vivekanandi'll tell u the version I am using here17:03
ShirakawasunaI use it all the time for windows and my cpu consistently hits 100% while idling >_<17:03
TJ-It has files included "MobilePartner" and the ndis source, identical paths to your log of the installer17:03
KipIngramSo.  Every now and then my system just drops its network connection and won't reconnecy.  Rebooting fixes it - it connects *immediately*.  But that's a pain.  sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't help.  Any thoughts on a "sledgehammer" command sequence that will get the networking into its rebooted state without me having to reboot everything?17:03
mowolShirakawasuna: that is also one of my concerns.. My laptop isnt that powerful..17:03
VivekanandTJ: yea setup is same :)17:03
Shirakawasunamowol: cool. Here's a handy resource: http://linux.about.com/od/ubupck_doc/a/ubupg26t01.htm17:03
ThinkT510Shirakawasuna: what are you virtualising? win98?17:04
ShirakawasunaThinkT510: win717:04
VivekanandTJ it should have install_linux script which inturn calls Linux/insall script17:04
MindALotCandlehawk, looking around in alternativeto.net17:04
VivekanandTJ thast the code flow in those scripts17:04
MindALothrm.. I need to configure to use : instead of ,17:04
HelpMeeeeIts a q8300 cpu, 500gb hdd, geforece 450 gts, g41 mobo. First time trying linux on this machine. the weird part is that it never actually gets to the installing part. before I can even click on the "install" icon it freezes. And I just thought about mentioning the zorin couse its ubunto based.17:04
ThinkT510Shirakawasuna: hmm, yeah win7 is rather heavy in a vm17:05
TJ-Vivekanand: You take a look at the one I have; compare it. www.huaweidevice.com/tcpsdownload/downLoadCenter?category=&flay=software&downloadID=NDAzMjM=17:05
Vivekanandokay17:05
CandlehawkMindALot: I dunno, I prefer , instead of :. This is just a new setup, I still get flagged when you do that.17:05
fnoyanisihi all, I have xfstt error whenever I log into ubuntu 12.04, anybody having an error about xfstt ?17:05
mdhHelpMeeee: you might wanna try to burn and load a real ubuntu cd to see if it can boot into livecd mode, that might help us determine whether it's an ubuntu problem or a zorin specific one17:06
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itsrachelfishIs there any way to increase the tx power of usb bluetooth devices?17:06
MindALotCandlehawk: well, the nickname would be the same either way, I just prefer the look of :, and you reminded me of that.  As for nested playlists, maybe I'll for myself to spend some of my free time improving one of the open source audio programs out there.17:06
OPPressedthis is a real pain in the ass, specialy when the older version of grub worked fine with fakeraid/dmraid17:06
MindALot*force*17:07
VivekanandTJ: its downloading at 1KBPS :P ... it should be the same anyway with some minr chnages, do check it17:07
MonkeyDust!info xfstt17:07
ubottuxfstt (source: xfstt): X Font Server for TrueType fonts. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8-2 (precise), package size 69 kB, installed size 276 kB17:07
TJ-Vivekanand: sorry about that file, forgot you were on a limited connection17:07
fnoyanisiMonkeyDust : do you also have problem with xfstt ?17:07
HelpMeeeethats what im saying. it does do that on the ubuntu live disc as well. as a matter of fact, it doesnt even come as far as the zorin. zorin at least shows some icons, just cant click them cuz the freeze. Ubunto freezes before it even loads any icons.17:07
Vivekanandnp, I can give u the firmwar, software and hardware versions17:07
fnoyanisior ubottu ? do you have problem with xfstt?17:07
CandlehawkMindALot: Hm. Sorry that they don't seem to work, but if you get it to work that would be great.17:08
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MonkeyDustfnoyanisi  nah, just curious17:08
newbchessplayer_does anyone know how to upgrade skype17:08
fnoyanisibekks : it got me :)17:08
newbchessplayer_keeps giving me this "broken pipe" gzip error17:08
alissonAi galera, existe um drive pra plca ati radeon x1250 no ubuntu que funcione 3d?17:08
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ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.17:09
fnoyanisiMonkeyDust : I sent a bug report several times, but realized that that bug has already been loged17:09
VivekanandTJ: - software version = 21.005.22.03.284, firmware version = 21.157.31.00.284, Hardware version = CH2E303SM17:09
newbchessplayer_hello?17:10
trijntje!hi17:10
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newbchessplayer_now i cant even install skype17:10
mdhHelpMeeee: it might be something with the desktop environment, ubuntu uses gnome3 right now with unity on top of it. Gnome 3 has a lot of problems with some hardware. If you want, you could look into installing zorin without a gui, and then use apt-get to install something else like MATE, or KDE, or whatever17:10
TJ-Vivekanand: It looks as if the installer messes with your udev rules, deletes a file, and doesn't fix it on uninstall... that's the 1st thing I've spotted17:10
trijntjenewbchessplayer_: how are you trying to install skype? Which version of ubuntu are you using?17:10
Vivekanandokay-TJ:17:10
arnsaHello17:10
arnsaWhy when I've installed XFCE wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?17:10
HelpMeeeehow do i install without a ui?17:11
newbchessplayer_12.04 and im trying to install skype with the .deb from skype.com17:11
newbchessplayer_trijntje,17:11
renato_Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04..17:11
newbchessplayer_^17:11
renato_Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04.. please send me a private message!!17:11
fnoyanisinewbchessplayer_ : I have 12.04 with skype working17:12
ThinkT510!mini | HelpMeeee17:12
ubottuHelpMeeee: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:12
renato_Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04.. please send me a private message!!17:12
renato_pleeeease17:12
HelpMeeeeok ill try that and see if it helps. thanks17:12
renato_Can SOMEONE HELP MEE?17:13
mdhHelpMeeee: i'm not really sure, i'm no ubuntu expert or a proficient linux user in general.17:13
trijntjenewbchessplayer_: why not install it from the software center?17:13
mdhHelpMeeee: Wait are you trying to install regular zorin or zorin lite?17:13
ThinkT510!please | renato_17:13
ubotturenato_: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude17:13
ThinkT510mdh: zorin isn't supported here17:14
saviogays is there issues with wine in ubuntu 12.0417:14
renato_Well, i don't want to spam, i just wanted someone to give me a little help D:17:14
arnsaWhy when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?17:14
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sanguisdexarnsa: are you running v1217:15
arnsasanguisdex, v12 what?17:15
mdhHelpMeeee: I'd try to install the lite version of it if the regular one doesn't install. The lite one is based on LXDE, which probably has a better chance of running on your computer.17:16
sanguisdexarnsa: lbuntu 12.0417:16
Shirakawasunaarnsa: you may need to restart network-manager - sudo service network-manager restart. I was having both wired and wireless issues before I did that (one time only)17:16
mdhThinkT510: I am aware of this, just trying to help someone out.17:16
CandlehawkJust to say I made a forum post and if anyone new is on that can fix my Unity issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162630#post1216263017:17
marahinHarro! I've got problem with TwinView, two nvidia graphic cards. 2nd screen is white, and xorg.conf keeps to setting "TwinView" in both screens to "0".17:17
Candlehawkmarahin: I had that issue.17:17
marahinCandlehawk, did you fix it?17:17
ThinkT510mdh: if you want to help people with zorin then here is not the place to do ut17:17
ThinkT510it17:17
Candlehawkmarahin: In the Nvidia menu editor, click the box at the top. Hold on, let me get the exact words.17:17
Candlehawkmarahin: Yea, enable Xinerama.17:18
mdhThinkT510: It kinda is an ubuntu issue, he says the ubuntu live cd won't boot. I assume this is because of gnome 3.17:18
marahinCandlehawk, Oh, I know. Although with Xinerama, i had an issue then with xrandr17:18
marahinthen, for example, Display utility in Ubuntu didn't want to start ("randr expansion is not present")17:18
renato_Someone can help me with an issue on the installation of adobe AIR on kubuntu 12.04? please..17:18
Candlehawkmarahin: Ah, I see. Did you save it to the X Configuration file?17:18
marahinCandlehawk, to the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" yep17:19
arnsaWhy when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?17:19
marahinCandlehawk, I am using Ubuntu since yesterday, Im pretty fresh here, sorry :P17:19
Candlehawkmarahin: THat's fine, I'm here for an issue you'll probably have after we get your monitor to display correctly, Unity gets buggy with two monitors sometimes.17:20
mdhdebian switched outta gnome 3 for some reason, i wonder if it's the hardware requirements17:20
hattraphi room17:20
trijntjearnsa: have you installed the drivers for your network card?17:20
marahinCandlehawk, I see. May we get on PM, or something? So we won't flood here? :P17:20
renato_Why everyone helps everyone but nobody answers me?? -.-17:21
marahinrenato_, chill. Patience.17:21
marahinMaybe no one has an idea how to help you, or something.17:21
mdhrenato_: what is the problem you are having?17:21
Candlehawkmarahin: Well, I don't know what is wrong with it now that my answer didn't work, so until I tell you another option, I'm stumped.17:21
renato_mdh installing adobe AIR on kunbuntu 12.04. I got an error about permissions and to contact admin.. But i'm admin >.<17:22
marahinCandlehawk, actually Xinerama works fine wih dual screen17:22
renato_mdh i even tryed to sudo su, but still not working :S17:22
ThinkT510renato_: i don't think many people here use adobe air17:22
renato_why not thinkT510?17:22
marahinCandlehawk, just the problem is that if I enable Xinerama, it also makes me having "randr" expansion off17:22
marahinit doesn't allow me to use it :(17:22
bekksrenato_: Be more precise. "I am trying to do ... - I am expecting ... but I get ...".17:22
marahinand if I switch Xinerama off, then randr works just fine17:22
Candlehawkmarahin: But you get a white screen then?17:23
mdhrenato_: i believe it's because of the things that adobe does to open source users, like killing off flash upgrades17:23
renato_bekks, i'm trying to install adobe AIr. I am expecting to install it, but i'm getting an error so i can't install it :x17:23
bekksrenato_: And we have to guess the detailed error and the command that causes it?17:23
bekks:)17:23
marahinCandlehawk, if I switch Xinerama off - yes, I do have a white screen on second screen. Although, if I switch Xinerama on, it works just fine.17:23
renato_mdh, so.... there is no way to fix it? i googled it and some people installed it it, but i can't.17:24
Candlehawkmarahin: Where is this randr option? I don't see one for it. WHat does it do?17:24
mdhrenato_: i'm sure there is a way, i jus't don't know anything about it, sorry17:24
renato_bekks, i said the error already. :/. I get it when i sudo ./Adobe.bin17:24
bekksrenato_: We dont even got an error message - we have no clue on what to fix :)17:24
OerHeksrenato, i cannot install Adobe Air either, it dropped support for linux.17:24
marahinCandlehawk, type in terminal "xrandr -v"17:24
renato_OerHeks i know, but i'm trying to install an older version.17:24
bekksrenato_: You always said "an error" but not WHICH error in detail.17:25
marahinCandlehawk, let's go on PM, it'll be easier17:25
renato_bekks, yes i did. you probably missed some messages. "You don't have the permissions to install. Contact the admin of the computer"17:25
renato_mdh, thanks anyway for your help17:26
bekksrenato_: And there is no more output at all?17:26
savioanyone using wine with 12.0417:26
renato_bekks, no :(. I tryed to install it as super user using sudo su, but doing that, sudo ./ won't even work :x17:27
TJ-marahin: Twinview is intended for single GPUs with multiple heads, not multiple GPUs17:27
marahinTJ-, oh, okay17:28
TJ-marahin: See Appendix G of the nvidia driver readme17:28
trijntjesavio: probably loads of people, why?17:28
TJ-marahin: It's because "Both display devices share one frame buffer."17:29
marahinTJ- mhm, I understand now. Candlehawk helped me to understand the point of randr :P17:29
saviotrijntje, wine forum says that wine is having issue with 12.0417:31
ThinkT510savio: what problem are you having?17:32
savioi am installing wine now17:32
arnsaWhy when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?17:33
CandlehawkI am having some issues with Unity due to my dual monitor setup. The GUI doubles on the other screen, and some graphical bits won't work, more details in my forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162630#post1216263017:33
tPl0chHi, how can I use an unstable version of a package (i.e. php5-xdebug)17:34
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tPl0chCan I add a deb to sources and pin the package?17:34
JenLoveHewittcan i only save-file to ~/Downloads/ ? for safety?17:38
fnoyanisiJenLoveHewitt : safety?17:40
fnoyanisiJenLoveHewitt : what do you mena by safety?17:41
arnsaguys what could be the problem, that wireless keeps disconnecting every ~10secs?17:42
arnsathe signal is very good17:43
fnoyanisiarnsa : maybe your laptop?17:43
arnsafnoyanisi, hm but he worked before an hour17:43
fnoyanisiarnsa : my hp compaq sometimes goes crazy and mutes or adjusts voice itsely, or you can see the screen mode switch between normal mode and presentation mode17:44
fnoyanisiarnsa : I have tihs problem in windows, though17:44
arnsabut he worked excelently before an hour or so17:44
fnoyanisibut, It is a hardware problem rather than being an OS problem, since whe I had this problem 2 years ago, I just replaced my touch panel and it was fine17:45
fnoyanisiarnsa : did your try the traditional way? resetting?17:45
arnsafnoyanisi I tried to restart the laptop, but that didn't help17:45
fnoyanisiarnsa : what about if you only use command line to use wireless17:47
arnsawell it doesn't disconnect, it just keeps losing the signal17:47
arnsafnoyanisi what u mean?17:47
fnoyanisiarnsa : ah... this is another story then17:47
saviopm17:47
arnsasavio, u told that to me?17:47
savioarnsa, what are you using?17:48
fnoyanisiarnsa : I thougt, it may be some application that may cause you to connect/disconnect. so, thought it may help to use terminal login only17:48
arnsaUbuntu 12.04 LTS17:48
savioarnsa, wireless keeps disconnecting17:48
arnsafnoyanisi that could be, because I've been trying to install xfce, lxde etc today17:48
savioarnsa, is that right17:48
arnsasavio well it doesn't disconnect, it just loses the signal17:48
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savioarnsa, did you try googling17:49
fnoyanisiarnsa : https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-disconnecting.html17:49
arnsasavio yes, and what I found was only to restart wpa17:49
fnoyanisiarnsa : the link is crap....leave it!17:50
arnsafnoyanisi none of these should be problem, because it started doing it before an hour or so17:50
savioarnsa, did you change any wireless setting17:51
arnsasavio as I said, I was only trying LXDE and XFCE, nothing else17:51
fnoyanisiarnsa : I suggest leaving X out for login, and try like that17:51
arnsafnoyanisi what you mean?17:52
fnoyanisiarnsa : just try command line login17:52
fnoyanisiand try to dowload somethnig17:52
arnsafnoyanisi what for?17:53
fnoyanisiarnsa : any possible modules/apps coming with XFCE that causes the problem17:54
fnoyanisithen at least you will have an idea17:54
arnsafnoyanisi I'm running now unity but I still got the problem17:54
mdhwhy are there so many netsplits17:54
acalbazais there a way to host a webapp that allows one to browse and read emails from the filesystem?17:56
Crumbzhey guys, don't really use ubuntu at all, is there a repo where i can download VLC via http?17:57
marahinCandlehawk, hello again. Are you there?17:57
Candlehawkmarahin: Hey, yea.17:57
marahinCandlehawk, there's an issue I hadn't met before.17:57
marahinCandlehawk, now I have two task bars on two screens D:17:57
Candlehawkmarahin: Same issue here, trying to get it solved but nobody seems to know what the issue is.17:58
Crumbzacalbaza, im sure there are. but why ask on an ubuntu channel?17:58
marahinCandlehawk, funny thing is that I haven't had that before on xinerama lol17:58
Candlehawkmarahin: Also, to confirm something, try to click on a top bar menu, does it close right away?17:58
Crumbzis there a repo where i can download VLC via http?17:58
marahinCandlehawk, what do you exactly mean?17:58
marahinit's working normally for me17:59
mdhCrumbz: for what kind of system?17:59
Candlehawkmarahin: The top bar, with file, edit, etc.17:59
marahinCandlehawk, yep, it's working fine17:59
marahinCandlehawk, on both screens17:59
Crumbzmdh, ubuntu. need a deb17:59
Candlehawkmarahin: Ah, Well I have a seperate issue then.17:59
Crumbzmdh, it's for a system that doesn't have network access yet17:59
noooooooooooooooI'm using a xfce + compiz setup. can installing kde / kubuntu-desktop break anything there?17:59
mdhCrumbz: lemme have a look, i might know one17:59
mdhbrb17:59
Crumbzmdh, thanks18:00
xyzzymazeHi all ... update today .. kernel 3.2.0-29-generic , probs with that update ... anyone else get that? Or has it already been discussed? thx ..18:01
mdhdeb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib18:01
mdhCrumbz: that one might work, change squeeze to unstable if you want more current releases18:02
Picimdh, Crumbz: Debian repositories should not be used on Ubuntu.18:03
mdhPici: where is a list of ubuntu repos then?18:03
OerHeks!offline18:04
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD18:04
Crumbzi get it18:04
Crumbzim just looking for a .deb18:04
Crumbzi actually dont have access to ubuntu18:04
Picimdh: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors18:04
Crumbzin any way18:04
PiciCrumbz: have you looked on http://packages.ubuntu.com18:04
Arthar360Hi...I have  just installed kvmand installed Windows XP in it..Now when I enter in fullScreen mode, there remaing blackstrips on the left and right of screen..How to Avoid this and start xp in full screen (without the black strips) ?18:05
Roysera18:06
OPPressedCan anyone tell me how to get Ubuntu 12.04 and Grub to a RAID0 fakeraid partition18:06
OPPressedI can install ubuntu but grub doesn't load18:06
OPPressedI just get a no OS error on boot18:06
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mdhsecurity.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_2.0.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb18:07
mdhCrumbz: this might work if you just need a deb security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_2.0.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb18:08
OPPressedhow can I boot into ubuntu without grub?18:09
Crumbzmdh, thanks - i appreciate the effort. i have found the packages on packages.ubuntu.com but the only problem is that i am installing it on a system without network access. so there is no real way to know exactly what dependencies it needs - without installing them all.18:09
CrumbzOPPressed, lilo?18:09
CandlehawkOPPressed: syslinux?18:09
CrumbzOPPressed, you can boot a live CD then chroot into the root partition of your ubuntu install18:10
savioCrumbz, give him a link18:10
OPPressedi want to boot the parition not mount it18:10
Bastian_bHello18:10
Bastian_bHow is called a script that is run at start up and is int init.d please?18:10
Bastian_bis in*18:11
blake_What's a good program to encode video to other formats, with a good GUI and fast encoding? (Need to convert 1gb AVI to 500mb OGV)18:11
CrumbzOPPressed, ok well you just need another boot loader other than grub18:11
Crumbzblake_, search your repos for ffmpeg, there should be frontends built for it18:11
OPPressedor does anyone know how to make grub work with fakeraid18:11
Crumbzie in pthon, gtk or QT18:12
blake_Thanks Crumbz18:12
Crumbznp18:12
saviomy firefox crash18:14
savioand it's not starting again18:14
blake_Crumbz nope, not in the Software Center.  I searched "encode video" and found Transmageddon, but it has bad reviews. I have experience with Handbrake but for some reason it's not in the repositories18:14
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mdhblake_: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases18:15
savioanyone ?18:16
mdhsavio: is it giving any kind of error?18:16
saviomdh, i think  bitdefender addon causing problem18:18
marahinGuys, is there any way of disabling 2nd task bar on 2nd screen? (Xinerama)18:18
Dr_Willisits in the settingz mR18:19
OerHekssavio, try " firefox -safe-mode "18:19
marahinDr_Willis, wut?18:19
Dr_Willisdisplays  i tbink.  a check box18:19
saviothankx18:19
Dr_Willisaskubuntu.com shows where marahin18:20
marahinDr_Willis, while using Xinerama I am not able to run "Displays", since of "randr" not working ("randr expansion is not present")18:21
Dr_Willismay be under some other tool.18:21
marahinthat's why I am asking, because I can't find 2nd task bar option, lol.18:21
Dr_Willisin 12.04 and 12.10 its a checkbox18:22
Dr_Willischeck askubuntu.com im on my phone so cant look18:22
bonhoefferTJ-: i'm back! i just have a bare prompt -- when i left, you had asked me (or L3top did) to close x and build an xorg.conf18:22
Dr_Willistry the hud search. ?18:23
bonhoeffernot sure if either of you are still around?18:23
C8H10N4O2I have this Magento installation and I set up multiple stores.  Well each one needs to be mapped to its own address so I set up the hosts file and the sites avaialble files with correct posting here they are prc3websolutions.com/screen.png but when I go to local.sph.com it redirects me to local.sch.com18:23
TJ-bonhoeffer: I am, but i'm on a remote support link right now... will you be around for a while?18:23
Dr_Willisbbl18:23
C8H10N4O2Both of them are using the same document root but in the sites available i set the SetEnv variables to route them correctly18:23
C8H10N4O2but they done18:23
C8H10N4O2dont18:23
C8H10N4O2any help?18:24
FloodBot1C8H10N4O2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:24
bonhoefferah . . . well i will, but i was hoping to use my computer, is there something i should google?18:24
bonhoefferor anyone else know how to get a xorg.conf set up for a HDMI connector18:24
saviohow to make brightness setting permanent18:26
tmyklebuwhen my code dumps core on an ubuntu system, where does the core dump go?18:26
L3topbonhoeffer: sudo service lightdm stop          then Xorg -configure; sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:26
savioin ubuntu 12.0418:26
tmyklebui see that /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern is set to pipe the core to some shell script called 'apport.'  i don't really feel like reading this.18:26
tmyklebupython script, i guess.  but same difference.18:26
bonhoefferL3top: i get number of created screens does not match number of devices. Configuration failed.18:27
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L3topls ~/xor*18:28
bonhoefferxorg.conf.new18:28
bonhoefferis there18:28
L3topyeah... copy it over18:29
bonhoefferhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139748/18:29
bonhoefferi'll copy that to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf, right?18:29
L3topcorrect bonhoeffer18:30
L3topthen reboot18:30
Guest92647hi all i have a printing issue, when i try to print, i authenticate with the prompt that pops up, but then the file reamanis in the print qUe(under settings>printers) and i have to authenticate again for it to print. so is there something that can be done so that i don't have to authenticate twice for a doc to print18:30
zack6849hey guys, im having more issues yet again, i cant  use my dual screens18:30
Guest92647using 12.0418:30
bonhoefferto reboot from a terminal, i type sudo init 6, is that the best way18:30
itsrachelfishHi #ubuntu is there any way to disable the stupid Indicator Applet Complete thing?18:31
zack6849if i ubncheck "mirror screens" and then hit apply to make the dual screen setup i get the following error :requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 960), maximum=(1920, 1920)18:31
Guest92647bonhoeffer: you can just "sudo reboot" or shutdown - r now18:31
itsrachelfishI want to see my indicators. I don't want them all to be collapsed into one thing.18:31
bonhoefferthanks, i know there is always a better way18:31
Guest92647bonhoeffer: np18:31
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trismitsrachelfish: I don't understand, how else would you display the indicators? (I mean, you can split session from the rest, but that's about it at the moment)18:33
bonhofferL3top, when i log in I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139758/18:34
itsrachelfishtrism: In all previous versions of ubuntu/debian/windows/anything I've used, every application had its own icon18:34
bonhofferso i'm at 1600 x 1200 now (!) TJ- , L3top (!) :)18:35
itsrachelfishI don't want to collapse everything into one little box because I use those icons to know if I have new messages or not18:35
bonhofferbut i would like to get to the 1900 resolution18:35
TJ-bonhoeffer: LOL getting bigger all the time18:35
bonhoefferTJ-: true18:35
trismitsrachelfish: the notification area still exists, just not included in gnome-panel by default, right click the panel, add to panel, notification area (but not every app has a systray icon)18:36
trismitsrachelfish: sorry, alt+right click that is18:36
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trismitsrachelfish: unless you are using unity, they you need to edit the systray whitelist18:36
bonhoefferbut i know the native resolution of the monitor is 1920x120018:37
itsrachelfishtrism: I'm using gnome with ubuntu 12.0418:37
idroj07Estoy perdido.. Alguien me puede dar la direccion para el canal de ubuntu en espanol?18:37
itsrachelfishalt + right clicking the top bar doesn't do anything18:37
trismitsrachelfish: gnome-shell or gnome-panel (classic)18:38
fernibonhoeffer: sorry, didnt read the whole log.. but your cable connecting the screen is good enough for the 1900x1200 ?18:38
Candlehawkidroj07: esta #ubuntu-es18:38
bonhoefferferni: yes, i believe so18:38
trismitsrachelfish: sometimes you need to alt+super+right click18:38
bonhoefferhdmi18:38
cmiller_is anyone here experienced with X11 forwarding?18:38
itsrachelfishYeah alt + super + right click workeed18:38
fernibonhoeffer: there are hdmi cables that are not capable od 1900x1200, i have one18:39
bonhoefferok, so maybe i shouldn't try it?18:39
CandlehawkHello, I have had this issue for a little bit to no avail, Unity is bugging out with me having two monitors, the GUI is showing up on both screens, the Display menu isn't working and a few other issues that I have mensioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162740#post1216274018:39
fernidont know, just guessing :)18:40
bonhofferferni, well, it is a good thought18:40
itsrachelfishoops.18:40
L3topbonhoeffer: I need to see an xrandr -q    how many screens do you have btw?18:41
itsrachelfishI clicked "remove" on what I thought was just the envelope thing18:41
itsrachelfishwhich removed everything18:41
itsrachelfishwat.18:41
bonhofferL3top, one screen18:41
bonhofferi'll pastebin that18:41
trismitsrachelfish: you need to uninstall indicators to remove them, sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages18:41
trismitsrachelfish: then restart the panel18:41
bonhofferhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1139778/ <-- L3top18:41
bonhofferi hate how it is still default18:42
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itsrachelfishYeah but18:42
bonhoffernot HDMI for example18:42
itsrachelfishThe clock in that indicator messages panel looked much nicer18:42
itsrachelfishThis new clock looks like crap!18:42
cmiller_can anyone assist with X11 forwarding, i cant seem to get it to work.18:42
trismitsrachelfish: indicator-messages is only the envelope18:42
itsrachelfishThen why did everything get removed when I clicked remove?18:43
itsrachelfishAnd how do I put it back?18:43
itsrachelfishMy user switcher, clock, bluetooth indicator were all removed18:43
Dr_Willis cmiller_  mosh good ssh guides cover that topic.18:43
trismitsrachelfish: alt+super+right click add to panel, indicator applet complete18:43
Dr_Willisitsrachelfish:  you removed the whole 'icon tray'18:43
trismitsrachelfish: it loads all the indicators and displays them (indicator-datetime, indicator-messages, indicator-session, etc)18:44
bonhofferL3top, did that xrandr help18:44
L3topbonhoeffer: backup your current xorg.conf and try this one http://pastebin.com/ZzKzUjJ918:44
bonhofferthanks18:45
savioanyone see algaton?18:45
itsrachelfishDr_Willis: How do I put it back? Icon tray isn't an option when adding to the panel18:45
bonhofferL3top, then, reboot?18:46
cmiller_Dr_Willis : I can SSH into the box fine. the problem is getting X11 to forward. ive researched the errors im getting and every time i fix one thing the error changes.18:46
L3topbonhoeffer: make sure you know where you backed up your old one18:46
L3topbonhoeffer: and yes... reboot18:47
bonhofferi kept it in my home18:47
bonhoffersee you in 5 . . .18:47
Dr_Willisbrb18:47
trismitsrachelfish: not Icon Tray, "Indicator Applet Complete"18:47
bonhoefferL3top: i'm getting a special dialog to fix my graphics18:48
bonhoeffershould i reconfigure, troubleshoot or exit to console18:49
itsrachelfishThere we go18:49
bonhoefferor run in low graphics mode for just one session18:49
itsrachelfishI had to delete my dconf file and restart gnome-panel18:49
Dr_Williscmiller_:  you are on 2 linux boxs or what exactly?18:50
Haskoholicis opengl avilable on ubuntu by default?18:50
Haskoholic(for programming in C++)18:50
bonhoefferL3top: i'm going to terminal and to restore my old xorg.conf18:51
mrdnHaskoholic: it doesn't depend on the os, but on the hardware18:51
cmiller_Dr_Willis : currently on windows 7, have ubuntu server 12.04's vmware console up to make local changes.18:51
Dr_Williscmiller_:  so you are sshing fro   windows into the vmware os?18:52
cmiller_Dr_Willis : I'm using putty, after i've started Xming, to SSH into the virtual server, and im trying to pull graphics over.18:52
cmiller_Dr_Willis : correct18:52
bekksvmware os (aka ESX) does not have a graphical console.18:53
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zack6849guys can i get some help here?18:54
bekksWe dont know.18:54
zack6849essentially my ubuntu wont allow mee to enable dual-screens18:54
zack6849it throws an error and goes back to mirroring18:54
bekkszack6849: Which error...?18:54
zack6849one moment18:54
zack6849Failed to apply configuration: %s18:55
zack6849GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code3: requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 960), maximum=(1920, 1920)18:55
Dr_Williscmiller i normally use the xming wizard to just open a xterminal, and not use putty18:55
Dr_Williscmiller vnc or freenx may work well for you also18:55
cndivDoes anyone know if the Ubuntu system testing utility results are publically available? I'm trying to find out if brand new machines work well with 12.0418:55
bekkszack6849: The message is pretty clear - you are arranging your displays in a ways that you break a limit.18:55
cndivspecific machines, I mean18:56
zack6849D:18:56
zack6849bekks, how would i change said limit18:56
bekkszack6849: You cant. Arrange your displays so they dont break that limit.18:57
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zack6849now how would i go about that...18:57
cmiller_Dr_Willis : Xming wizard crashes without an error when used.18:57
bonhoefferL3top: i can't boot into a terminal18:57
jmoironi figured out a big problem i was having with compiz 0.9.x;  switching workspaces was working quite terribly in gnome-fallback, but they work ok if you set the number of workspaces in cssm and the pager applet to the same number;  this breaks the pager, but switching workspaces works a ton better.18:57
bonhoefferis there a way to get in?18:57
L3topzack6849: your virtual desktop size, which the window in which both windows must fit, is smaller than the combined size of your individual displays.18:57
jmoironccsm*18:57
L3topbonhoeffer: ctrl + alt + f218:58
bonhoefferafter x starts?18:58
TJ-zack6849: It's telling you that the maxmium combined size of both screens is 1920x1920, but adding a 1280x960 to the right of another 1280-wide screen will result in 2560 wide - more than 1920 max18:58
zack6849L3top, i have no idea how to make that work right, because the displays im using arent the same size18:58
bonhoefferi'm trying to run in failsafe graphics mode18:58
TJ-zack6849: the max virtual size is set by the video card's capabilities18:58
zack6849TJ-, how would i make it to where it didnt do that?18:59
bekkszack6849: And together, they are bigger than your virtual desktop size.18:59
L3topzack6849: well the easy way is to reduce the size of both screen resolutions.18:59
zack6849...... are you serious? it worked just fine on windows.18:59
bekkszack6849: Because windows uses another driver.18:59
zack6849...18:59
L3topzack6849: I do not believe the limitation you displayed is accurate. Looks like the wrong driver.18:59
L3topshould be minimum 2048 x 204818:59
bekksNope :)19:00
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zack6849L3top, the drive im using is straight from the additional drivers tab19:00
bekksOn several ATI cards, the limit is 1920x1920 driver based.19:00
TJ-zack6849: Are you able to tell it they are positioned one above the other (even though I know they aren't) just to test that it will do both if they fit within the virtual size19:00
zack6849wow, the only screen res i can use is 800x60019:00
L3topreally? Wow... didn't know that bekks...19:00
bekksThats why I am refusing to use ATI :)19:00
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L3topzack6849: in a terminal... please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA19:00
zack6849one moment19:01
Haskoholic&& means also-do-if-previous-succeeds in ubuntu shell right?19:01
anormuradovif someone is using Lenovo T420 and up with Nvidia discrete cards, use nox2apic and nomodeset in the GRUB loading config19:01
Dr_WillisHaskoholic:  in bash, yes19:01
TJ-zack6849: guys see this post: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1593326&postcount=463519:02
zack6849lspci -nn | grep VGA19:02
zack6849oops19:02
zack684901:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] [1002:6738]19:02
Alamjadhi there how are you19:02
TJ-zack6849: that link I posted shows how to fix it19:03
GeekAdminI always get a "crash report" everytime I reboot. Using 12.04 with gnome classic. When I click details it says "Exeutable Path: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center".  Is this something I should be concerned about? Anything I can do to fix it?19:03
L3topTJ-: You cannot arbitrarily make that number up... the hardware must be capable... however... I would assume zack6849's card is now that I see it.19:03
AlamjadHey guys could you help me please19:03
Dr_Willis!Ask19:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:03
bekksAlamjad: We dont know without knowing your question :)19:03
L3topBut then... I didnt know some were limited below 2048... so clearly not as clever as I thought19:03
Alamjadok thanks19:03
TJ-L3top: yes, I think it can too. I was helping hom yesterday19:03
zack6849TJ-, where do i find said config file?19:04
L3topzack6849: /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:04
TJ-zack6849: Maybe L3top can help you on this since he's much more used to messing with Xorg than me!19:04
Alamjadmy question is in this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/174073/sudden-error-message-during-install-ubuntu-with-wubi19:04
zack6849xD19:04
linelevelHi, is there any way to make an ssh session persist over different wireless connections? Currently, if I open an SSH session while connected to wireless network A, then disconnect and connect to network B, the session hangs, but if I then disconnect from B and reconnect to A, it's responsive again.19:05
TJ-zack6849: NOTE!!! you have to change the device and screen names to match your system!!!19:05
Dr_WillisAlamjad: most people hate wubi. and will reccomend a full normal install19:05
bekksAlamjad: I'd suggest installing Ubuntu natively, instead of using wubi.19:05
linelevelI move around a lot with my laptop, so this is not ideal.19:05
AlamjadI ok19:05
zack6849okay, L3top what do you think i shouls set it to?19:05
zack6849i currently have this19:05
zack6849Section "Screen"19:05
zack6849Identifier"Default Screen"19:05
zack6849DefaultDepth2419:05
zack6849EndSection19:05
zack6849Section "Module"19:05
FloodBot1zack6849: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:05
Dr_Willislinelevel: check out screen,tmux and byobu19:05
TJ-L3top: Do you know if "Device0" and "Screen0" will be correct? On Ubuntu I think it's "Default Screen" and "Default Device" ?19:05
cmiller_-_- now for some reason my openssh server isnt starting.19:06
Alamjadbut do you think theres a problem in the BIOS of my laptop or it just aproblem in the integration of wubi tool with it19:06
zack6849http://pastebin.com/tV7ybfNr19:06
bonhoefferL3top: TJ- i can't get to a prompt -- ctl+alt+f3 brings up a blinking line, no prompt19:06
^BARrE|^is there a program i can install to mount isos from gnome instead of command line?19:06
Dr_Willis^BARrE|^:  theres so me giso or similer tool. use the search feature of the software center. or seach askubuntu.com19:07
TJ-^BARrE|^: this may help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-isos-easely-in-gnome-nautilus.html19:07
bonhoeffercan i boot non-graphic in grub19:07
zack6849L3top, what settings do you suppose i should use?19:07
TJ-^BARrE|^: Ignore that link! it's for an old version of Gnome19:08
TJ-bonhoeffer: Yes: remove "quiet splash"19:08
linelevelDr_Willis: I've used screen before. Can you explain how screen (or tmux) with byobu will solve this problem?19:08
nmvictorhow do I forward UDP packets on port 53 to port 9876? someone help19:08
bonhoefferTJ-: will that save?19:08
TJ-bonhoeffer: and add "single" to stop loading the GUI and remaining with root privileges19:08
Alamjadhey guys I have this warrning message more than one time alerting me that theres problem of overheating specially after shuting down the Ubuntu19:09
SalmanWho was i talking to yesterday?19:09
TJ-bonhoeffer: Not unless you edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub afterwards19:09
L3topzack6849: I would follow the advice in the link by TJ-19:09
Dr_Willislinelevel:  not clear on your details. i ssh back to a server and my sessions continue. using it now..19:09
Salman*4se or someone19:09
TJ-L3top: but what device/screen names should he use?19:09
TJ-L3top: I think "Default Device" and "Default Screen" having looked at my local Xorg.0.log19:09
L3topone second I have a baby crawling all over... trying to grab all my networking cables... I need to find a way to distract him from the rats nest under my server.19:10
linelevelDr_Willis: Say I'm connected to wifi at home and open an ssh session. I disconnect from the wifi network, close my laptop and move to my office, then reconnect to my office's wireless network. The ssh session does not respond (the terminal hangs). Then when I come home later and reconnect to my home wifi, it responds again.19:10
zack6849L3top, after saving should i restart?19:11
zack6849or what?19:11
linelevelDr_Willis: I would like to be able to continue using the same ssh session that I started at home, at work, and vice versa.19:11
Dr_Willislinelevel:  what ssh client is doing that? mine disconnect when i move to the other networks19:11
bonhoefferTJ-: i removed quiet splash and replaced with single -- but now i just get a maroon screen19:11
linelevelDr_Willis: just 'ssh'19:12
linelevelOpenSSH client, I guess.19:12
bekkslinelevel: Technically, thats not possible.19:12
bonhoeffermaybe boot with live cd and move19:12
SalmanL3top: Hey remember me? The guy with sound probs. 2 days ago.19:12
bekkslinelevel: You have to start screen on the host you connected via ssh, and you can reattach to that screen session using a new ssh connection.19:12
linelevelbekks: Are you saying what I want to do is not possible, or the circumstances I observed (getting control of the session back when I reconnect) are not possible?19:12
bekkslinelevel: I just explained it in detail.19:12
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TJ-bonhoeffer: Try adding "nomodeset" too19:13
bonhoefferi did -- booting live cd now19:13
linelevelbekks: yes, I see what you're saying. That's an acceptable solution. Can you explain (or point me to a reference that explains) why a persisting an ssh session across networks  is not possible?19:14
linelevels/why a/why/19:14
Dr_Willisi set byobu to always startm if i move neteorks on my phone it disconnects, i ssh back in and it reconnedts19:15
SalmanSound Problems, Lubuntu 12.04, ATI IXP19:15
TJ-linelevel: it's perfectly possible. Once you've connected, start a "screen" session and carry on as normal. When you want to leave, detach from the terminal using Ctrl+A d  then on another PC establish a fresh SSH connection and do "screen -r"19:15
Dr_Willisthe ssh client does disconnect.. then reconnects to the same shell session19:15
TJ-linelevel: "screen" allows you to detach and reattach to a terminal and it keeps processes running in the meantime19:16
L3topOk... back... zack6849 I would restart, yes... bonhoeffer yes boot live cd... mount the drive... and sudo mv. The easy way is to click the drive in nautilus, and press ctrl L, it will show the path (usually /media/something), Salman... no... not really refresh my memory.19:16
linelevelTJ-: That works for many cases but is not perfect, e.g. if I'm editing a file locally over SSH (so I can use an X-friendly editor), and don't want to have to close the file an reopen it when moving networks.19:16
bonhoefferL3top: rebooting19:17
Dr_Willisnothings going to be perfect19:17
zack6849it wont let me save the changes to the xorg..conf19:17
zack6849D:19:17
nmvictorAnyone help me with port forwarding of packets, I am using this command (sudo iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876) to forward UDP on port 53 to port 9876, but that affects my browsing till I do a reboot to revoke the port forwarding.19:17
SalmanL3top: can you help me? Sound probs. You were helping me 2 days ago.19:18
TJ-linelevel: hmmm, well, change your method of operation and then it becomes possible19:18
Dr_Willisfreenx ;)19:18
linelevelTJ-: Yes, I will :) I'm currently wondering about the technical details of why the SSH session itself cannot persist when I switch networks. Any idea?19:19
TJ-linelevel: why not combine it with rsync so you can work on a local copy, then when you reconnect rsync the local version to the remote host?19:19
mamuUse mosh19:19
TJ-linelevel: because it's an encrypted point-to-point link.19:19
linelevelTJ-: well, because then I have an extra step (rsync), and I may be editing dozens of files at a time in different directory trees.19:20
mamuIts a kind of ssh and persists even an ip switch19:20
Dr_Willisyour ip changes....19:20
marhabashi19:20
mamuOk an ip change19:20
mamuSorry19:20
TJ-linelevel: script it19:20
TJ-mosh still disconnects the link... and uses SSH .. its just masking the 'screen' usage19:22
TJ-and from what I read, mosh can't do what linelevel wanted, preserve local editing sessions19:22
SalmanPLZ help sound probs lubuntu 12.0419:23
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SalmanW4sp: hey19:26
Salmansww19:26
Salmanaww19:26
SalmanW4sp: hey. still no sound19:28
GeekAdminI always get a "crash report" everytime I reboot. Using 12.04 with gnome classic. When I click details it says "Exeutable Path: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center".  Is this something I should be concerned about? Anything I can do to fix it?19:28
W4spHey Salman. No luck at all?19:28
SalmanW4sp:nope19:29
semarjtanyone else here use yakuake19:29
W4spSalman: Do you have that 'plopp' when it starts?19:29
semarjtI notice that hwen i switched to 12.04 yakuake no longer gives focus bck to the previous menu after closing19:29
SalmanW4sp: No19:30
semarjtactaully..hm, it does..for xchat, but not Konsole19:30
semarjtweird19:30
W4spSalman: So that one disappeared? Strange. I found something after you left.19:30
SalmanW4sp: yes?19:31
W4spSalman: There's seemingly a difference between AC 7 and AC97 wrt the physical connections. That said, I'm not into the hardware but I understand that the way how speaker are connected to AC 7 and AC97 is different.19:32
SalmanW4sp: so i can't get sound in linux ever?19:32
minimecGeekAdmin: Probably not. Somehow the gnome-control-center does not start. Can you start it in a terminal? If you want that annoying message 'gone', set /etc/default/apport 'enabled=0'19:33
W4spSalman: I would suggest you check if that's really the case. It would mean that you probably will get sound with a different driver. That said, it is definitely worth seaching with my finding is correct. IF so, perhqps there is a way to modify the driver. Regrettably I'm not into this sort of things.19:34
wilee-nileeSalman, Ironically there is a #yakuake channel 7 users though19:34
GeekAdminminimec:  thanks I'll try19:34
semarjthrm actually looks to be a Konsole bug, works for everything else19:35
semarjthuh19:35
GeekAdminminimec:  yes it does start in the terminal19:35
SalmanW4sp: how would i do that?19:35
GeekAdminminimec:  how do I enable /etc/default/apport to "enabled=0"?19:35
wilee-nileesorry Salman semarjt  Ironically there is a #yakuake channel 7 users though19:35
GeekAdminminimec:  /etc/default/apport is just an empty file19:36
minimecGeekAdmin: 'sudo gedit /etc/default/apport' --> read the text and make your choice.19:36
Salmanwilee-nilee: i don't understand19:36
minimecGeekAdmin: Ok. Wait...19:36
semarjtwilee-nilee looks to be an issue with Konsole19:36
wilee-nileeSalman, I posted a message to you by acident. ;)19:36
GeekAdminminimec:  nevermind. I must have spelled it wrong. THANKS19:37
wilee-nileesemarjt, cool just wanted to make sure you had any resource needed. ;)19:37
minimecGeekAdmin: ;) And I had the pastebin ready... http://pastebin.com/9mVX0TNm19:37
GeekAdminminimec:  thanks for your support.19:37
W4spSalman: I can't find the URL at themoment, I bookmarked it though.19:37
minimecGeekAdmin: No problem19:37
W4spSalman: I would contact the amufacturer emachine or what was it?19:39
klj613when i click download a deb. open with software centre. why does it say not found? :-/19:39
SalmanW4sp: Yes Emachines. But i don't want to to call.19:39
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W4spSalman: I don't think that's neccessary. Can you not contact them otherwise?19:40
SalmanW4sp: no.19:41
TheMadDrizzleAnyone in here?19:49
bekksTheMadDrizzle: Why?19:50
thiebaudeiam,lol19:50
TheMadDrizzleI'm looking for a bit of help19:50
bekks!ask | TheMadDrizzle19:50
ubottuTheMadDrizzle: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:50
TheMadDrizzleAlright, I'm trying to create a live cd enviornment for ArchLinux to dual boot alongside my current Ubuntu install.19:51
aleprovenciohello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?19:51
TheMadDrizzleI've already got my usb stick formatted, DD'd the arch linux distro into it and when I reboot, it just sits there.19:51
bekksTheMadDrizzle: And how is that related to Ubuntu?19:52
W4spSalman: I would assume it is one of those premium lines. :-(19:52
W4spSalman: Just figure out if the data sheet is wrong or whast the difference is. I cannot image you will not get any sound. But I really can't get a graps on it why they list AC7 and the video device as ~200 when the driver is AC97 and video ~300.19:52
TheMadDrizzleIt's not- I was hoping that someone here would have some kind of experience with it though.19:52
bekksTheMadDrizzle: You'd better ask in #archlinux then :)19:53
* W4sp .oO Today's youth has no patience anymore.19:54
zloog2My computer is randomly powering off when running linux, but is rock stable on windows. Any suggestions on what to look for?19:55
MonkeyDustW4sp  said plato a few 1000 years ago19:55
W4spMonkeyDust: Are there no improvements since then?19:56
TJ-zloog2: might be worth checking the log file, /var/log/kern.log for clues19:57
minimeczloog2: 'Powering off' means random shutdown of the system or 'system freeze'?19:57
zloog2Will do, thanks. Given how fast everything dies, im not sure if it would have time to write to the log.19:58
zloog2Minimec: it acts like i just pulled the power cord out of it. Then it immediately starts POSTing19:58
TJ-zloog2: agreed... but there might be some precursor indications19:58
TJ-zloog2: That sounds rather like a voltate regulator fault, from my experience19:59
minimeczloog2: That could be some kind of 'kernel panic'. As stated, check the kernel logs in /var/log...19:59
TJ-zloog2: could it be that cooling isn't operating when using linux and the overheat thermal cutout operates?20:00
zloog2TJ- thats what I would think as well, but ive spent the last few weeks gaming pretty heavily on windows. Id imagine if it was a power/hardware problem the issue would have poped up on windows.20:00
minimeczloog2: What kind of system are you on? Some Ivy bridge with internal HD4000 GPU?20:00
WingsHey there20:00
zloog2Kk, lessing thru kern.log now20:00
garydancehey guys how do I switch from ubuntu to lubuntu on the newest version of ubuntu?20:00
WingsI'm trying to install XCP-XAPI and having some issues... Ubuntu 12.04, 64-bit version20:01
Wingsthe issue I'm having is that it's showing ~3.2GB of RAM total and I've got 8GB20:01
TJ-zloog2: not if the linus side isn't correctly controlling the thermal properties... not backing off the CPU core speeds, not operating the fans20:01
TJ-zloog2: it's not unknown... used to be pretty common on laptops couple years ago20:01
Wingsit only shows the incorrect amount when I'm booted into Xen mode20:01
Wingsif I boot normally it shows around 7.99GB20:01
zloog2TJ- aye, not sure how to check those things in linux. Any suggestions?20:01
OerHeksgarydance, logout, change DM and log back in again20:02
TJ-zloog2: not had issues that way for ages, but you can do thermal monitoring20:02
garydanceOerHeks, I am not sure  how to do that with the new login screen though20:02
zloog2Thanks again.20:03
OerHeksgarydance, well, try it?20:03
TJ-zloog2: this might point you in the right direction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169661920:03
brahman_hello20:03
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garydanceOerHeks, I am not sure how to change the display manager though20:03
oscailtHello, World!20:04
brahman_just checking20:04
Eduard_MunteanuHrm, where do I find sha256 sums of the isos?20:04
Eduard_MunteanuOr something stronger than MD5 at least.20:04
trismEduard_Munteanu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/SHA256SUMS (or substitute for the release you want)20:05
Eduard_Munteanutrism: thanks.20:05
Eduard_Munteanutrism: can you find those if you navigate from the main page of ubuntu.com?20:06
zloog2Will take a look20:06
TJ-zloog2: see the xsensors comment on this for a recent 12.04 facility http://askubuntu.com/questions/129432/is-there-a-temparature-monitor-application-for-ubuntu-11-1020:06
OerHeksgarydance, select your name, password and press the '>' to select DM20:06
trismEduard_Munteanu: perhaps, but I don't know how20:07
josheee12hey, guys.  is there any application i could use to pipe my headset (mic+headphones) via bluetooth to my phone with a2dp?20:08
pdeeeI'm trying to recover some ecryptfs'd data off a box that has some disk errors20:09
vakssounds fun pdeee20:10
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pdeeeThe machine will boot into single user/recovery mode, but a full boot trips on too many of the traumatised sectors20:10
pdeeedoes anyone know what the minimum set of services to start are to get a login prompt running?20:10
sporkboyokay. I want my battery meter up. when I go to power settings, the option for that is blank, and if I set it, it doesn't stay.20:10
sporkboyAlso, jupiter's options for screen size, etc are now all empty.20:10
vaksare you talking about when booting linux pdee?20:10
pdeee(I have been messing around with the ecryptfs command line, but that's causing me more misery than success, I figure it would be a lot easier if I could make login/PAM do the work for me20:11
vaksoh maybe what you are doing is above my head20:11
biebanyone using Centrify to connect to Active Directory?20:11
vaksbut i've always been able to get files off a broken hard drive with linux, you can boot straight from the CD and not even use the hd20:11
minimecjosheee12: ?? ubuntu uses a2dp as default for bluetooth audio. I don't know what exactly you want to do, but if you connect a bluetooth headset to ubuntu, you get a2dp and you can manage the output in the volume control setttings.20:12
rikomancien# essai20:12
josheee12minimec: i want to essentially use my computer as the bluetooth headset with my phone receiving the audio as a2dp, so i can use my headset to make calls.20:13
TJ-josheee12: Your PC is the HCI host, not a slave device. You'd have to write some fancy bits to achieve host-to-host pass through like that20:14
stroodlepupwhat is the name of the multiple monitor settings app used in 12.04?20:14
minimecjosheee12: So you want to create a new audio device on your computer, and the phone should see that one as normal bluetooth audio device, on which you can connect to? Is that correct?20:15
biifer_stroodlepup: I use NVIDA X Server Serrigns20:15
TJ-stroodlepup: for nvidia graphics = nvidia x settings ... for non-proprietary its the xrandr front end in the "Displays" system settings tray20:16
stroodlepupwhat about the default app?\20:16
stroodlepupthe xrandr frontend...20:16
stroodlepupwhat is it called?20:16
josheee12minimec: yes.  well, not create a new output device as much as essentially turn my desktop's audio input and output into a handsfree setup.20:16
TJ-stroodlepup: part of the gnome-control-center applets, not sure which it is20:17
shazbotmcnastyI never thought audio input and output to be hands-on.20:17
klj613how do i uninstall steam from winetricks? doesn't seem to be a uninstall command20:17
TJ-stroodlepup: but on my system it is launched using "gnome-control-center display"20:17
minimecjosheee12: I guess you will have to create something like a 'bluetooth audio reciever'. Otherwise your phone will not see the computer as audio device I guess.20:17
klj613nevermind, was just a simple rm -rf20:18
TJ-josheee12: You'd have to put Bluez into slave mode to begin with I guess20:18
minimecjosheee12: I would look for something like this... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1464189.html20:18
josheee12i'll keep reading, thanks20:19
minimecjosheee12: Sorry... Will be offline now for a while. Hope the link I gave you points you in the right direction.20:19
minimecjosheee12: http://jprvita.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/1-2-3-4-a2dp-stream/20:20
TJ-josheee12: see the hciconfig man-page too20:20
josheee12thanks20:20
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FloodBot1usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:25
danilIs there a way to make my two monitors display different workspaces instead of different parts of one giant workspace?20:27
Guest21743hello20:27
rustler770I keep getting error message: Required plugins could not be found in Rhythmbox. text/html decoder anyone know the answer?20:27
akioSo I see we need a remix just to get gnome shell working in 12.04. Is that true? Tried using the gnome ppa and gdm won't give me a session for it.20:27
Oxicore?20:27
Eduard_MunteanuOxicore: ??20:28
Guest21743I'm having a problem with my wifi after installing ubuntu12.0420:28
Guest21743hey can anybody help me with my wifi problem20:29
Guest21743hello20:29
Guest21743hello20:30
IdleOne!details | Guest2174320:30
ubottuGuest21743: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:30
Guest21743I have a problem with my wifi20:30
bonhofferL3top, ok, i got everything working again -- still interested in how i can get real resolutions20:30
Guest21743i installed ubuntu 12.0420:31
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bonhofferit is much better, but still pretty rough20:31
xwalk_Is there any reason why kernel upgrades are held back when using apt-get upgrade to update the packages?20:31
m2kolevcan anybody help me figure out how to turn on anti aliasing for netbeans under ubuntu 12.04 ?20:31
m2kolevI tried editing the netbeans.conf with the settings provided on google but it doesnt do anything20:31
shinao1hi! Im trying to sync my ubuntu 12.04 Evolution with funambol using sync-ui. Ive successfully synced, but I dont see anything in Evolution.. but I get successful sync reports. Can someone tell me what Im missing?20:31
IdleOnexwalk_: use dist-upgrade20:31
Shinobiis there any way to install xfce, but not default to a GUI session. I want to boot to a command prompt and start x as needed.20:32
paladonhello can someone help me? I cannot let my wifi work on dell 17 under ubuntu (right now I am again under windows)20:32
Guest21743i have downloaded the hardware but it still will not show a wifi connection20:32
Guest21743Pladon I"m having the same problem20:33
bonhofferi just installed a wine program, but how can i run it?20:33
Guest21743no WIFI20:33
aleprovenciohello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?20:33
paladoni cant find it on askubuntu20:34
Guest21743any help with wifi20:34
paladonsomething that works20:34
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m2kolevanybody?20:38
shinao1hi! Im trying to sync my ubuntu 12.04 Evolution with funambol using sync-ui. Ive successfully synced, but I dont see anything in Evolution.. but I get successful sync reports. Can someone tell me what Im missing?20:38
bonhofferanyone know to run an installed wine app?20:43
iptablesHelp01Some one familia with packet routing to assist me here. I want to route all incoming trafic on port 53 to some other port, what is the right command to use?20:43
holifildDzień dobry :)20:44
iptablesHelp01Some one familia with packet routing to assist me here. I want to route all incoming trafic on port 53 to some other port, what is the right command to use?20:45
andreshenriquezhello... first excuses for mi english... i need install office with wine or playonlinux... somebody can help me? please20:45
knobydobsWhy do you want to do that - you can use openoffice20:46
knobydobsor libreoffice20:46
iptablesHelp01How do i forward all incoming traffic on port 53 to another port,?20:47
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: see the REDIRECT target20:48
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: thanks for coming in to help20:48
knobydobsandreshenriquez: Why do you want to do that - you can use openoffice20:49
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: actually, I am not sure what I am not doing right, infact I am not sure what is right :)20:49
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: how do you mean?20:49
Eduard_MunteanuIf you suspect it's an XY problem, then it's probably better to start with what you want to accomplish.20:50
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: what I want is to have DNS UDP packets routed to some port say 987620:50
knobydobs@andreshenriquez: Why do you want to do that - you can use openoffice20:50
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: routed how or why?20:51
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: so far it still sounds like you want the REDIRECT target.20:52
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: to be precise, I would want to have the packets from the DNS servers, I mean the packets whose DNS query has been anwered, not the packets from my system requesting for DNS service via port 53, if you know what I mean20:52
Shinobiany way to boot to terminal with xfce installed?20:52
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: yea its definately redirect20:52
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: I guess20:52
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: do you need to grab packets *not* intended for your machine?20:53
CandlehawkShinobi: at grub select restore mode and boot to root terminal with networking enabled?20:53
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ShinobiI want xfce but only when I startx20:54
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: sudo iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876  , I am using that, but that gets the packets from my system headed for DNS Server, what I want is to get the packets from the DNS server to my machine20:54
Eduard_MunteanuShinobi: startxfce or provide an .xinitrc20:54
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: ah, you need to do it in POSTROUTING20:54
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: erm, PREROUTING20:55
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: thanks, we are getting somewhere20:55
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: so I am completely unfamiliar with DNS and I would appreciate your assistance20:55
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: mind for a PM?20:55
Eduard_MunteanuWell, we can talk in here. I might leave soon and someone else can pick it up.20:56
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: sorry, I meant unfamiliar with iptables and port forwarding or whatever ....20:56
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: /msg hi20:56
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: you also want --sport I think20:57
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: so, if you were to acomplish what I'm looking to accomplish, how would you go about it?20:58
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: that iptables rule needs a few modifications20:58
WHAT_UPif i'm running a personal web server that would be nice if it stays active but not a huge disaster if it goes down, is it worth using unattended-upgrades for automatically updating? if so, should i just go for security or for both security and regular updates?20:58
Eduard_MunteanuAnd should do it.20:58
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: what modifications ?20:59
Eduard_MunteanuI think you want   iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --sport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:987620:59
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: ^^20:59
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: ha,  let me give that a shot!21:00
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: I appreciate your help, really21:00
Eduard_MunteanuNo problem :)21:00
usr13WHAT_UP: Not sure exactly what you're asking, but updates aren't gonna kill a webserver.21:00
WHAT_UPusr13: and regular updates?21:01
usr13yea21:01
danilC-x 5 o (switch focus to other window) in emacs is teleporting my mouse between screens as of 12.04 -- any ideas about how to stop that from happening?21:01
WHAT_UPusr13: :). thanks :)21:01
usr13WHAT_UP: NP21:01
xxghostxxWhat permissions does debian-sys-maint require on mysql? right now it has all privs and grant...i don't think it needs all that21:01
xxghostxxGoogle was zero help21:01
WHAT_UP=PCP(log n, 1)21:01
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: you might also want to match on the destination address, but that should do for now.21:02
Eduard_Munteanu-d your_ip21:02
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: well that seems to do something, but it doesnt get the packets to my target Application21:03
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: did the rule match? (see the iptables counters)21:03
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xxghostxxanyone know what permissions debian-sys-maint needs, at minimum, to perform its function?21:04
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: if you don't have ip forwarding on, I think you might need to specify the IP address of that same interface, not 127.0.0.121:04
xxghostxxon MySQL21:04
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: The application is stuck at "waiting for packets ...", with the inital command, it was receiving the packets but the wrong one21:04
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: Will I need to enable ip forwarding or what? And how is that done?21:05
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: no, use tcpdump to check the packets and see if they fit that rule21:06
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: and try using the NIC's IP instead of 127.0.0.1 above.21:06
Guest49388Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I have no back up medium, is it possible to repartition and move the files over from one system to another then delete the old partitions and re-size ubuntu up to full disk size? I know it's a bit long winded, but I have no spare back up hard drive21:06
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: or the redirect target equivalently21:06
iptablesHelp01Big terms  :) << Eduard_Munteanu21:07
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --sport domain -j REDIRECT --to-ports 987621:07
MonkeyDust!clone > Guest4938821:07
ubottuGuest49388, please see my private message21:07
Guest49388MonkeyDust: It's Arch Linux I wish to replace, on the live hard drive, with no back up drive21:08
caixais there anyway to monitor application load on my GPU?21:08
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: but consider why you're doing it... the system won't be getting those packets anymore21:09
Eduard_MunteanuWhich may break stuff.21:09
MonkeyDustGuest49388  why are you asking for advice with Arch in the Ubuntu channel?21:09
Tiraelhi all21:09
Eduard_MunteanuTirael: hi21:09
Guest49388I'm not, I'm asking if I can resize a live system fairly risk free, I wish to switch to Ubuntu21:10
bekksGuest49388: The answer is "no, not without risk".21:10
Guest49388Hence "fairly"21:10
Tiraeli new here , anyone have a netbook itum7 n450?21:11
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: well, both if them are not working. I just want to have the packets with Answers to the DNS queries made from my system, tcpdump -i eth0 -v doesn't display anything21:11
bekksTirael: Why? :)21:11
Tiraelmy grafics drivers not working21:11
Tiraelapears unknow in description panel21:12
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: try adding -n, perhaps it's not resolving certain addresses21:12
Eduard_MunteanuAre you sure you don't need to clone that packet instead of redirecting it?21:14
Eduard_Munteanu(if you need the former, TEE might be an option)21:14
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: well, that worked, but I cant decipher the output21:14
Tiraelbekks: u know why?21:14
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: did you see any of those UDP packets you were expecting?21:14
Eduard_MunteanuYou can add filters to tcpdump too.21:15
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: I saw the word UDP, lots  of it21:15
bekksTirael: Which driver is not working? Which ubuntu do you have? Whats this "description panel"?21:15
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: But my aapplication is not receiving any packets, BTW , thanks thus far, so could you be knowing why my application does not receive any packets? coz its listening on port 987621:16
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: paste one of those lines21:16
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: dunno what your app does... are you listening for UDP packets?21:17
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: yea, Its all I care for21:17
Eduard_MunteanuBecause e.g. it might be listening for TCP connections.21:17
Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: did you try the REDIRECT line above?21:18
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: It was working with the command I gave you, except that was capturing the outbound packets21:18
Tiraelbekks: details, sry, in all configurations i see processor: Intel® Atom™ CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz × 221:18
Tiraelgraffics: Unknow21:18
bekksTirael: And which Ubuntu do you have?21:19
Tirael12.0421:19
Tirael12.04 LTS21:20
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iptablesHelp01Yea, I tried but the output here [http://pastebin.com/eYzLYLeG] is for the most recent command you gave21:20
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Eduard_MunteanuiptablesHelp01: try looking for those packets specifically e.g. tcpdump -i eth0 -nv "src port 53"21:22
danielboston26how do i add patch code to my version of ubuntu?21:22
Icehawk78Does anyone know who I should look for/talk to to help expand the Logitech mouse driver support?21:22
danielboston26icehawk28 check for that speficic driver on launchpad21:23
Tiraelbekks: its ubuntu 12.04 LTS21:23
arrrghhhhey guys.  i had a 11.10 install that was upgraded to 12.04, and gnome-panel or fallback was installed.  after 12.04, i don't have any borders on my windows21:24
bekksTirael: Then please pastebin the output of "sudo lspci -k".21:24
bekks!paste | Tirael21:24
ubottuTirael: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:24
arrrghhhso i can't close, minimize, etc.  i removed and reinstalled gnome-panel, to no avail.  any ideas?21:24
danielboston26arrrghhh: something might have got screwed up in the upgrade21:25
akioFWIW everyone, don't use the gnome ppa for gnome shell. Repo packages work just fine.21:25
danielboston26upgrading in place is always tricky in any os21:25
danielboston26can anyone help with my issue?21:25
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: http://pastebin.com/YZB9vS8e have a look at that,21:25
danielboston26arrrghhh: the best and easiest way is to backup your data and just format and reinstall21:26
W4sparrrghhh: This sounds as if yu do not have a desktop environment but your WM is up. Try to log in and select a different DE.21:27
danielboston26a pain but that way you will have no strange issues21:27
arrrghhhW4sp, that will probably work... but how can i fix gnome-panel?21:27
arrrghhhdanielboston26, sorry a format/reinstall is not an option right now.21:27
BubbelgumHello ! =)21:27
Tiraelbekks: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation N10 Family DMI Bridge21:27
TiraelKernel driver in use: agpgart-intel21:27
Tirael00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller21:27
TiraelSubsystem: Device 1b7d:000221:27
TiraelKernel driver in use: i91521:27
bekks!paste | Tirael21:28
FloodBot1Tirael: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:28
TiraelKernel modules: i91521:28
Tirael00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller21:28
danielboston26arrrghhh: i always try to avoid upgrading in place you can always get weird little issues like this21:28
danielboston26tirael please use pastbin21:28
arrrghhhdanielboston26, i know.  i wish upgrades went smooth, but they never seem to...21:28
W4sparrrghhh: Re-install the the related packages. There are meta packages that will give you everything. Requires some patience during download and installation but it usually fixes it.21:29
iptablesHelp01Eduard_Munteanu: I am not sure whats missing, could it be the IP soecific redirection you were proposing?21:29
danielboston26well think about it arrrghhh its like taking a table full of stuff and replacing everything without touching the old stuff21:29
Tiraelsry, paste bin whit launchpad? (noob dude sry)21:30
danielboston26tirael21:30
danielboston26copy and paste your info then paste that into pastebin21:30
deadmund arrrghhh Use a distro that doesn't have 1/2yearly updates21:30
danielboston26then post link here21:30
danielboston26deadmund: i think hes using 12.0421:31
bekks!paste | Tirael21:31
danielboston26deadmund:  your saying don't use ubuntu?21:31
deadmunddanielboston26: I was suggesting that blasphemy yes :)21:31
bekksTirael: Tirael: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add |  !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for  your paste - see also the channel topic.21:31
danielboston26deadmund: *shocked*21:31
deadmundhaha21:31
itatitatguys, I know this is not the channel, but in kbuntu they are very quite. I added a second panel (i have it on the top), but is possible to minimize applications in that second panel?21:32
Tiraelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1140052/ is this??21:32
bekksTirael: Yes.21:32
W4spI don't think that the Ubuntu update process is deeply flawed. It should be fine for updates and upgrades. The fact that the WM is gone may even be just down to .dmrc, that cannot fine a valid DE anymore.21:32
Tirael:)21:32
hollenjfI just installed the latest version of Ubuntu, it wont auto mount my sdcard, its not in dmesg and fdisk -l isnt listing it. is there a change I should know about?21:32
bekksTirael: Line 3 to 6 indicate, that you are using the i915 driver for your graphics cards. Everything is fine.21:32
arrrghhhW4sp, can you tell me which ones?  i did a purge on gnome-panel and then installed it again.  no dice.21:33
danielboston26hollenjf: when you say "latest" do you mean 12.04 or 12.10?21:33
hollenjfdanielboston26: 12.04 that latest stable release21:34
danielboston26has ubuntu ever auto mounted sd's?21:34
danielboston26never tried it21:34
deadmunddanielboston26: it does for me21:34
W4sparrrghhh: I can't guide you through everything but if your lightdm comes up your previous session (before update) may be flawed. 1. Create a new user and see if that one has the same problems.21:34
arrrghhhhrm21:35
arrrghhhok21:35
danielboston26well that would be a issue then21:35
deadmunddanielboston26: but I might have installed something long ago21:35
Tiraelbekks: yes?, how i can make a test21:35
danielboston26hollenjf: have you upgraded from a older version of ubuntu?21:35
hollenjfdanielboston26: yes, 11 and the earlty 12 release used to auto mount the sd card devices21:35
bekksTirael: You can see something on your display. Successfully tested :P21:35
TiraelXD21:35
hollenjfdanielboston26: No, I have done a clean install from an ISO21:35
danielboston26hollenjf: hmmm no idea you might try googling21:36
W4sparrrghhh: 2. Check if your ~/.dmrc has a session entry that is valid.21:36
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hollenjfdanielboston26: Yes, I googled this first.21:36
danielboston26hollenjf: hmmmm21:36
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hollenjfdanielboston26: I have also checked lsusb, dmesg, fdisk -l. None of those programs are detecting the storage device.21:36
danielboston26hollenjf: have you tried putting the card in another computer?21:37
Tiraelbekks: new in ubuntu and dont see the name of GMA or acceleration rate is strange XD21:37
Tiraelbekks: thx for helping me21:37
hollenjfdanielboston26: Yes, I just tried the card in my dell, which is running ubuntu 11. Works fine21:37
danielboston26tirael buying any computer with gma graphics is silly21:37
danielboston26hollenjf: can you auto mount another card?21:38
danielboston26hollenjf: or have you tried manually mounting?21:38
Tiraelis a netbook graffic card, impossible i thing21:39
arrrghhhW4sp, so 'Unity' works.  but is it possible to fix gnome-fallback?21:39
hollenjfdanielboston26: I cant manually mount because it isnt giving it a device name to mount it from21:39
danielboston26tireal netbooks are cheap pos :-P21:39
TiraelXD21:39
mwmnjAny vim experts around?21:39
qwdUbuntu 12.04 AMD64. I did the software update thing yesterday and turned the pc off because they were planning on cutting power this morning. Then when I started it again I got sent to busybox, and I don't know what to do.21:39
danielboston26hollenjf: try another card in same computer21:39
danielboston26mwmnj: you may want a vim chatroom21:40
W4sparrrghhh: Would it be fair to ask what you have done, I gave you some advice and don't know what you've tried.21:40
danielboston26qwd: you shut it off in the middle of updating21:40
danielboston26not a good thing to do21:40
arrrghhhW4sp, apologies.  i'm not sure what you mean by a 'valid session entry'21:40
mwmnjdanielboston26: yes, trying my luck in #vim as well21:40
arrrghhhW4sp, i haven't tried much.  Unity works.  It sounds like Gnome Classic (No Effects) works21:40
qwddanielboston26: pretty sure I didn't, but I guess it's possible21:41
danielboston26mwmnj: also google is your friend :-P21:41
Tiraelicu guys, thx for the help n.n21:41
danielboston26qwd your basically sol21:41
hollenjfdanielboston26: I just tried another sd card in this computer, I checked fdisk, lsusb and dmesg. Its still not providing  a device name for this device.21:41
W4sparrrghhh: I'm lost, you said it works for Unity. Did you install a new user?21:41
hollenjfdanielboston26: I think this may be a potential issue with this release21:41
danielboston26hollenjf: then i would say one of two things21:41
danielboston26hollenjf: ubuntu is messed up or something happened to the reader21:41
danielboston26hollenjf: since im a hardware person im blaming software :-P21:42
W4sparrrghhh: Did you use a different profile in a new session.21:42
qwdcan i get a second opinion onn this? possibly turned pc off during update, now sent to busybox. sol or fixable?21:42
danielboston26qwd try running fsck21:43
arrrghhhW4sp, no new user.  just works logging into Unity or Gnome Classic (no effects)21:43
playmanhello, could some one assist me with the "waiting for network configuration" error?21:43
danielboston26qwd unless your expecting to get a cl?21:43
hollenjfdanielboston26: hahah.. I agree. I'm leaning to the fact that its a software issue..21:43
danielboston26hollenjf: i don't have a install of 12.04 to test21:43
qwddanielboston26: i'm expecting to start gnome :)21:43
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qwddanielboston26: but now that you mention it i think this happened once before and i solved it with fsck, almost messed it up in the process too so i think i'll check the logs and see if i find anything useful there :)21:44
W4sparrrghhh: Teh odd thing is that .dmrc is (or has been) ignored by GNOME.21:45
danielboston26qwd you may have a wonky hard drive21:45
danielboston26qwd im assuming your using ext file system?21:45
qwddanielboston26: i'm using ext4 and for some reason it started just fine now! this morning i got busybox twice, even in recovery mode, now I went straight into Gnome. Odd! Thanks for the help though21:47
danielboston26qwd im leaning towards hard drive issue21:47
danielboston26qwd backup your data21:47
danielboston26qwd im checking to see if spinrite will see ext but im not sure21:47
danielboston26qwd my guess would be no21:48
danielboston26qwd how old is the computer?21:48
arrrghhhW4sp, no worries i think he'll just use gnome classic (no effects)21:48
W4sparrrghhh: np.21:49
arrrghhhdoes anyone know why i can't create icons on the desktop from the applications menu?21:49
pseudonymousI have no ibus(mocz) support in my legacy QT3 application on my desktop. Any ideas as to how I get this re-enabled ? First time I installed ibus (via gui) it all worked. Unfortunately that broke by itself and I redid the install by hand using a different back-end(anthy=>mocz).. No more QT3 support it seems :(21:49
arrrghhhi had to actually cp from /usr/lib.../calc.desktop file21:50
luyangUbuntu is so beautiful21:50
luyangI'd say that Ubuntu is the first extremely usable Linux distro21:50
pseudonymousluyang: sure is :) By far the best looking OS, no comparisons21:50
danielboston26pseudonymous: for old hardware/software best to use a old os21:50
qwddanielboston26: I got everything important backed up but I'll double check. The oldest hard drive has been powered on almost 5 years21:50
luyangpseudonymous:  =)21:50
qwd4 bad sectors21:50
deadmundpseudonymous: luyang ummmmmmm.... MINT?!21:51
danielboston26qwd my advice would be replace the drive21:51
luyangdeadmund: what?21:51
deadmundluyang: linux mint is even more usable and I dare say.... prettier!21:51
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luyangdeadmund: I see21:52
deadmund;)21:52
Guest91246nick21:52
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luyangdeadmund: but didn't it come out after ubuntu?21:52
deadmundluyang: oh, yes.  Quite a bit after.  It's an ubuntu derivative21:52
qwddanielboston26: based on 4 bad sectors? everything looks good apart from that. 675 power cycles, 4,9 years powered on but everything has a green little dot  except for those 4 sectors.21:52
arrecan i ask an 12.04 LTS question here related to wireless nics?21:52
arrrghhhshouldn't i be able to drag and drop from the applications menu to the desktop?21:53
deadmundarre: That is the purpose of this channel!21:53
luyangdeadmund there you see... btw, I think ubuntu is good since it is so established with binaries etc21:53
luyangaps21:53
danielboston26qwd based on what? are you running some sort of hard drive program? like spinrite?21:53
deadmundluyang: mint enjoys the same!21:53
luyangwhere can I find awesome linux tools21:53
danielboston26arre yes21:53
luyangdeadmund: that sounds great <321:54
deadmundluyang: because it is an ubuntu derivative21:54
deadmundluyang: :)21:54
luyangyes21:54
luyangit's so cool21:54
arrethanks deadmund, i have a wierd problem, on start up my wireless nic doens't connect to my router, but it will when i execute two commands: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb,  and sudo modprobe b4321:54
qwddanielboston26: based on the SMART data. I'm running the self-test in Ubuntus disk-utility now.21:54
luyangI am actulaly running Ubuntu in virtualbox in Windows21:54
luyangstill awesome t hough21:54
danielboston26arre broadcom chipset?21:54
arreyea21:54
danielboston26awd smart is crap21:54
danielboston26qwd*21:54
danielboston26arre thats your problem21:54
danielboston26arre broadcom and linux don't mix21:55
deadmundarre: That is very strange indeed.  do you have b43 in your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist21:55
arreright daniel, but it works, just not on startup, deadmund, let me check21:55
arrrghhhhow do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic21:55
deadmunddanielboston26: what is qwd?21:55
qwddanielboston26: ah, well I'll make sure my backups are proper and when it dies I won't have anything to worry about :)21:55
luyangseamless in virtualbox mode is awesome21:55
danielboston26qwd is a user deadmund21:55
deadmundarre: I have much experience with broadcomm and b4321:55
luyangBtw, guys, where can I find ubuntu app source codes?21:55
deadmunddanielboston26: oh :P21:56
danielboston26qwd i would trust something like spinrite21:56
Dr_Willisluyang:  the various dev packages and src debs21:56
danielboston26qwd actually i would only trust spinrite21:56
arredeadmund, sorry linux rookie here, how to i navigate to that dir to check? from terminal?21:56
KatsumeBliskluyang: I know I'm not helping much, but there's a command with apt to get the source.21:56
luyangKatsumeBlisk: that's actually very useful21:56
deadmundarre: Any directory can be navigated to using the terminal or the file explorer21:56
luyangapt-get source?21:56
deadmundarre: PM if you want.  It's noisy in here.21:56
danielboston26arre when you type someones nick please type full nick so it will highlight it so i can see your responce21:56
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get luyang21:57
danielboston26arre if you don't want to type my whole nick type first e letters then hit tab21:57
arrrghhhluyang, yes.  apt-get source <package name>21:57
Dr_WillisUse the command apt-get source <package> (don't use sudo with it) to download the source of a package21:57
luyanggrrrrreat! (corn flakes)21:57
danielboston26dr_willis are you answering a question?21:57
W4sparre: Use pwd to figure out where you are, use cd <directory> to navigate. Try pressing the tab after you typed in a few characters. Use ls to find what's in your directory.21:57
luyangDo y'all run Linux alone or dualboot or virtualbox/vmware?21:58
arrrghhh!ot | luyang21:58
danielboston26arre broadcom chipsets have all kinds of issues because broadcom does not open source there drivers so all their linux drivers are hacks made by users21:58
ubottuluyang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:58
W4sparre: Tip. Use man <command> to find more about the command line tool.21:58
danielboston26arre i would get a new nic if you can21:58
luyangarrrghhh: sorry21:59
arrrghhhnp21:59
arreok cool, one sec guys, checking.. (right i read that about broadcom,.. (w4SP, i am there now checking per deadmund's instructions.21:59
deadmunddanielboston26: arre whoa whoa.  I have several broadcom cards and I have them all working fine.21:59
danielboston26luyang: support chat not geneal discussion21:59
luyangI know21:59
deadmundno need to buy a new card danielboston2621:59
luyangjust so excited21:59
hollenjfdanielboston26: I've solved my problem.. It was a hardware failure.. the UBS port that the sd card reader was plugged into went dead.. I moved it to a new usb port and Wala!21:59
playmanwhy cant i make my ubuntu start at IP 192.168.1.3 it always starts at 192.168.1.4?21:59
arrrghhhdanielboston26, i already scolded him :P21:59
pseudonymousluyang: I dualboot for the occasional Starcraft 2 game, but otherwise I run it exclusively. VM's are a bit buggy at times and I can't justify using windows for anything else. All the best applications(my opinion) from programming to learning Japanese are running in Linux.. :)21:59
deadmundplayman: edit /etc/network/interfaces or use the gui networkmanager22:00
arrrghhhplayman, if it's DHCP then your DHCP server determines your IP22:00
deadmundplayman: perhaps that IP is taken by some other machine22:00
arredeadmund, where did you want me to go check again? /etc/ where?22:00
danielboston26deadmund: well the fact that they don't open source their drivers because they want to charge linux users extortion to get support has soured me on them22:00
arrrghhhplayman, if you want a static IP, configure it manually.22:00
W4spdeadmund: Apologies, I didn't see you have been asked directly.22:00
Dr_Willisplayman:  my router can assign ip based on MAC. so my whole home lan has the same ips22:00
danielboston26playman turn off dhcp22:00
pseudonymousdeadmund: don't agree on Mint being prettier though. They tried to pretty up a common street prostitute (Gnome3) with moderate success.22:00
deadmundarre: If you PM me there won't be so much noise.  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf22:01
deadmundW4sp: :)22:01
usr13playman: ... or tell your router to assign your favorite ip to the MAC address of your NIC.22:01
arrehow do i pm? :)22:01
arre<---- moron here22:01
deadmundpseudonymous: Hey now!  They wrote cinnamon and mate.  More than just themeing gnome 322:01
playmandeadmund: i've configured the interfaces file to use 192.168.1.3 but still it wants 192.168.1.422:01
danielboston26aree /whisper whatever name22:01
arreok22:01
arrethanks daniel22:01
deadmundoops22:01
deadmund /whipser works too22:02
usr13playman: is the address 192.168.1.3 within the dhcp pool that your router uses?22:02
danielboston26arre or depending on your irc client you can right click on his username and click private or whisper or whatever the name of the command is on your client22:02
playmanusr13: yes, my router is 255.255.255.0 on the 192.168.1.* range22:03
arretest22:03
deadmundhaha22:03
deadmundarre: hi22:03
MonkeyDustplayman  no, 255... is the subnet22:03
arrelol22:03
arre<--- moron did i mention that already? :)22:03
usr13playman:  you should choose one that is outside the DHCP pool22:04
deadmundarre: like this ->   /whipser deadmund Hello there!22:04
usr13playman: Do you know where the pool is?22:04
Dr_WillisI think they need to make the Guest user wallpaper have big bold letters.. 'Things wont get saved here once you logout' Silly Step daughter has done this twice now and mad at me that she lost her downloads.. ;P22:04
MonkeyDustplayman  your router is 192.168.1.122:04
usr13playman: If not, log into your router's config and see22:04
playmanMonkeyDust: yes and 255.255.255.0 on 192.168.1.* tells me that i'm using ip's from 1 to 255 right?22:04
bekksplayman: 1...25422:05
usr13playman: Many routers allow you to assign static IPs for your PCs.22:05
MonkeyDustplayman  no, 255.255.255.0 means you can use 254 addresses in 192.... range22:05
bekks255 is the broadcast IP22:05
playmanMonkeyDust: nope my router is 254 not 122:05
Dr_WillisThats.. weird..22:05
W4sp255 is broadcast, 0 is used to specify a subnet.22:06
MonkeyDustidd22:06
bekksiddqd ;)22:06
MonkeyDust255.255.255.255 is the broadcast address22:06
bekksNope.22:06
danielboston26usr13 all he needs to do is turn off dhcp22:06
usr13playman: the netmask 255.255.255.0  tells you that your subnet is from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.25422:06
danielboston26monkeydust 255.255.255.022:06
bekksHaving a common class C network, the last IP ( .255) is the broadcast IP.22:07
bekksdanielboston26: No.22:07
MonkeyDustdanielboston26  idd, i was confused myself22:07
MonkeyDuststill am :)22:07
bekks255.255.255.0 is the subnet mask.22:07
usr13danielboston26: Yea, but what about the other PCs that connect to that router?22:07
playmanlol man so many talking and saying different things. any way i've used to have 192.168.1.3 on that machine until I changed the hardware, and wanted to keep using 3 on that machine. but some how it wont let me22:07
danielboston26usr13 i mean on that computer22:07
arrrghhhplayman, ohhhh you probably had your MAC address change22:07
bzzzzstatic eye pees22:07
usr13danielboston26: Ok, yea22:07
danielboston26playman if you just turn off dhcp on your computer you can do it22:08
danielboston26unless  as others have said its not in your pool22:08
W4spplayman: :-) If your hardware has changed so has the NIC and MAC. You would need to tell the dhcp server to propagate the .3 to your new hardware.22:08
bekksusr13: The subnet mask /24 or 255.255.255.0 tells you that your network range is from 192.166.1.0 to .255 whereas .0 is the network address and .255 is the broadcast address.22:08
danielboston26bekks your making my head hurt lol22:09
bzzzzsadly, .0 isn't a valid network addr22:09
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MonkeyDustdanielboston26  you haven't calculated it binary, yet :)22:09
bekksbzzzz: It IS a very valid NETWORK address, but NOT a valid HOST address.22:09
W4spUse ifconfig to identify your MAC address and tell the dhcp daemon to provide .3 to the h/w with that specific MAC address. That's all.22:09
bekksbzzzz: danielboston26: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetting explains all that.22:10
danielboston26just like aholes everyone has them22:10
danielboston26lol22:10
playmanallright i'm gona see if I can tell my router to forget the old MAC for the .3 and set in a new one22:10
danielboston26bekks i was teaseing you22:10
W4spplayman: If you to check for things like release or release time. But if you do as I said you don't need to.22:11
usr13W4sp: I think he has his router issuing a static IP, and that is what he is wanting.22:11
danielboston26yes playman wants a static iip22:12
W4spusr13: Static IPADDR are not being served by dhcp server. that is a contradiction in itself.22:12
danielboston26he wants a .3 for some reason22:12
usr13W4sp: Actually, it's usually called a "Static Lease"22:13
bekksusr13: Thats a static lease, but not a static IP.22:13
usr13W4sp: I beg to differ.22:13
arrrghhhinfinite lease?  :P22:13
usr13bekks: Yea, well, same difference.22:13
bzzzzbekks: 'network address' can be used to denote mean 'host address.' but if you want to play semantics, then both .0 and .255 are network addresses, which makes your originl statement useless22:14
bekksThe difference is, that using a static lease, the DHCP server determines the IP, wil using a static IP, the DHCP server doesnt matter at all.22:14
arrrghhhwe setup our machines to grab IP based on MAC.  the clients still use DHCP, but the server always hands out the same address.22:14
arrrghhhit's a little more complex to setup, and i'm betting playman just wants a static IP22:14
W4sp:-) Well I will not expand further on my comments. As long as you both use the same terms and understand each other.22:14
arrrghhhlol22:15
usr13bekks: Ok, yes you are correct.  But, essentially the PC gets a static IP (either way).22:15
arrrghhhsoooo how do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic22:15
usr13bekks: It's just a matter of terms.22:15
bekksusr13: No. Using a static lease, the PC gets a DHCP IP which is always the same ;)22:15
bekksHowever, just configuring a static IP on the client is the most easy way to solve that problem.22:15
W4spWell, static IP is in no way propagated by DHCP. YOu can exclude IPADDR range on dhcp for those hosts that use a static IP though22:15
usr13bekks: If it is always the same it is "static" (as opposed to "dynamic").22:16
* W4sp .oO forces herself to think about something else.22:16
arrrghhhherself?  blasphemy22:16
bekksusr13: As long as it is served by the _D_HCP server, it isnt a static IP.22:16
usr13bekks: Anyway, it doesnt matter, but you are correct, it is refered to (in router configs) as "static lease".22:16
Tito__How to remove launcher from taskbar in Ubuntu 12.04 (in Ubuntu 11.10, alt right click used to help)22:17
MonkeyDustD in DHCP means Dynamic, as opposed to Static22:18
usr13MonkeyDust: So...?22:18
MonkeyDustusr13  to whom it may concern :)22:18
arrrghhhc'mon guys, enough semantics.22:18
usr13MonkeyDust: That doesn't mean that a DHCP server can not assign a static IP addreess. :)22:18
bekksusr13: A DHCP cant assign static IPs, but only static leases.22:19
arrrghhh...22:19
bekksA static IP isnt assigned by anything else but the client using that IP.22:19
W4spusr13: No, it actually does mean that.22:19
usr13bekks: Ok, I get your point, (but the fact remains that if the IP address does not change, it is "static", (by definition of the word "static").22:20
W4spbekks: bekks is right.22:20
arrrghhhFFS semantics!!22:20
playmangah stupid router, now I just get "waiting for network configuration" :/22:20
bekksusr13: static refers to the lease, not to the IP.22:20
bzzzztell bekks that bekks is right, classic22:21
W4spusr13: If you continue to mix up terms we will end up like birds singing in the air.22:21
usr13playman: Are you sure you got the MAC address correct?22:21
arevee_test22:21
MonkeyDustplayman  the router is still mentally preoccupied by the difference between dynamic and static22:21
arevee_durn, deadmund is gone?22:21
playmanusr13: I cant find the place to change the MAC i'm using some stupid router from speedtouch22:22
W4spno wonder, I should have done the same.22:22
deadmundI'm here22:22
deadmundwhat?22:22
usr13bekks: I told you once already, "You are correct, it is refered to as a "static lease".22:22
deadmundarevee_: I'm here22:23
deadmundYou changed nick!22:23
arevee_sorry bro22:23
arrrghhhplayman, why not just make a static IP on the client instead of worrying about the router?22:23
kriskropdwhy does ejabberd in aptitude come broken in non developmental 12.04? erlang modules are broken, something about mismatched versions from what i can tell so far22:24
W4sparrrghhh: Yeah, but exclude .3 on your router.22:24
arrrghhhW4sp, or just make a dhcp range above .100.  that's what *most* do from the factory it seems.22:24
tPl0chHi, how can I revert error reporting for a package once I ignored them?22:24
playmanarrrghhh: doesent that mean I edit the interfaces file telling it to use .3 instead of .4?22:25
W4sparrrghhh: Exactly, now we're talking.22:25
usr13playman: Some routers do not have the option to set "Static Lease".  It may be that the lease just never runs out.  In that case, you could move the dhcp pool up a little, (if the dhcp pool is from 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.50, you could move it to 192.168.1.4 - 192.168.1.54), and then just set your PC to static IP of 192.168.1.3.'22:25
adaminsullI'm trying to install ZNC22:25
adaminsullwhen I do ./ZNC I get22:25
adaminsull[ !! ] Binding to port [1337] on host [199.116.119.70]... [ Unable to bind ]22:25
adaminsull[ ** ] Unrecoverable config error.22:25
arrrghhhadaminsull, is 1337 in use?22:25
bzzzzadaminsull: netstat -n22:26
usr13playman: That was just an example, (I do not know where the pool really is), so...22:26
arrrghhh^^22:26
playmanusr13: I belive that the router uses from 1 to 254 by default22:26
adaminsullYes 133722:26
arrrghhhadaminsull, please use that netstat command to make sure it's not in use.  netstat -alp |grep 133722:26
usr13playman: so just move it from 4 to 25422:26
adaminsullbzzzz to check?22:26
bzzzzadaminsull: netstat -n?22:26
arrrghhhplayman, i would move it .100+ for DHCP.22:26
adaminsullk22:26
W4spadaminsull: do you have 1337 in /etc/services?22:26
bzzzzadaminsull: maybe some pastebin22:26
adaminsulli'll pastebin what I get from netstat -n22:27
W4spWell, he wants .3 That needs to be accepted.22:27
usr13playman: But routers do not usually use the entire subnet for the DHCP pool.  (You may be confusing "subnet" with "DHCP pool".22:27
adaminsullwait22:27
jnhghyadaminsull the port is already in use22:27
adaminsullOk22:27
adaminsullWhat port is free?22:27
bzzzzadaminsull: pick anything above 102422:27
adaminsullok22:28
adaminsull1097?22:28
bzzzzand for the record, a used port isn't the only possible problem22:28
W4spadaminsull: check your /etc/services22:28
arrrghhhbzzzz, true, but i wanted to rule it out :P22:28
bzzzzadaminsull: well first make sure that the problem is an occupied port22:28
bzzzzadaminsull: hence netstat and pbin22:28
adaminsullIs port 1097 free22:28
arrrghhhadaminsull, please pastebin the netstat output22:29
bekksadaminsull: Check it, using the command you've beben given.22:29
bzzzzadaminsull: i'm not sure, i'd have to get my psychic headgear22:29
bekks*been22:29
arrrghhhlol22:29
playmanusr13: the networking isint my strong side i'll admit to that, but i'm pretty sure I can make my PC use what ever number from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.253 (254 is the router)22:29
usr13playman: And it may not even use the term "DHCP pool", it may only have entries for "Start IP Address"  and "End IP Address"  (or Maximum DHCP users), or something to that effect.22:29
arrrghhhplayman, do you have the exact router make & model?  i might be able to find a walkthru22:30
adaminsullhttp://pastebin.com/kheVXjnS22:30
bzzzzholy cow that's a lot of ports22:30
playmanarrrghhh: THOMSON ST585v622:31
adaminsullW4sp in SSH like now?22:31
usr13playman: You can set your PC to a static IP of 192.168.1.3 but if it is inside the DHCP pool, be aware that someday you may have an IP conflict if your router assigns that IP to another NIC. (That is why I keep telling you to pick an IP address that is outside the DHCP pool).22:31
arrrghhhplayman, got it.  give me a minute.22:32
yaksterJust add a reservation to the dhcp pool…. then the router wont ever assign it to anythign but that PC22:32
bekksyakster: The router doesnt support that :P22:32
yaksterWHAAAA!!!! whats the model?22:33
arrrghhhyakster, damnit jim22:33
arrrghhhyakster, http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers/Thomson/ST585v6/default.htm22:33
playmanusr13: yeah sorry for that :/ but somehow I cant see anywhere information about DHCP pool or anything of that sort.22:33
usr13bekks: You are more than likely correct.  But it is also quite possbile that this router also starts at the bottom of the list when assigning IPs i.e. 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.3 etc. etc.22:34
playmanarrrghhh: ok thanks man22:34
usr13playman: That's ok.  Yea, some routers are a bit limited.....22:34
bekksusr13: Thats the RFC compliant behaviour of a DHCP server :)22:34
arrrghhhlordy this is a horrible router.22:35
playmanusr13: one of my pc's is using .13 another is using .422:35
playmanarrrghhh: yeahh tell me about it, it's just some stupid default router I get from the ISP22:36
arrrghhhi can't find jack on the DHCP options - no way to even disable DHCP22:36
arrrghhhplayman, you might have to burn that thing and buy your own.22:36
usr13playman: Yea, this router probably has a never ending lease.  There is probably a way you can clear it, but.... Probably not necessary.22:36
tech1is there a better program for detecting and setting up multiple displays? both xrandr and nvidia xserver are not working properly....22:36
usr13playman: Just set your PC to static IP and hope for the best.22:37
arevee__deadmund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22:37
deadmundarevee__: yeah?22:37
arevee__you are a genius kind sir!22:37
deadmundha22:37
deadmundI have experience.22:37
arevee__how can i help you?22:37
deadmundI'm glad I could help you!22:37
deadmundarevee__: I don't need any help from you but I appreciate the offer :)22:37
playmanthere is probably one way to fix it, and that requires me to force reset it, but then I have to setup the net on all my laps and androids :/22:37
arevee__dude, please pm me, i suck at pmming..22:38
usr13playman: If you can find the configuration for "Start" and "End" IPs in the DHCP server config, change the start IP to 192.168.1.4, (so that 192.168.1.3 is no longer in the DHCP pool).22:38
arrrghhhplayman, can i PM you22:38
playmanyeah sure arrrghhh22:38
deadmundarevee__: right click my name -> open dialog window22:38
usr13playman: Do like I did.  Find a router that will do DD-wrt and install your own OS on it and you will have lots of config options.  :)22:39
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donchisciotteciao a tutti22:39
donchisciottexdcc/list22:39
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playmanusr13: hehe yeah maybe ;)22:40
usr13playman: DD-wrt or openwrt22:40
usr13playman: You can look in the database and see which routers are supported (there are LOTS), and buy one from ebay.22:40
arrrghhhdd-wrt is amazing22:41
arrrghhhsome routers are difficult to setup tho... there's varying levels of support.22:41
usr13playman: In the  process, you'll learn more about netowrking.22:41
usr13arrrghhh: Yea, some are fairly easy though.22:41
usr13I've done a couple with no problems22:41
arrrghhhindeed.  my 600n was easy peasy.  this 54g is awful tho.  just depends on the version.  some have less memory, etc22:42
playmanusr13: where is that database?22:42
arrrghhhplayman, http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database/22:43
usr13arrrghhh: Yea, I would like to find one that has a pretty strong radio, (one if them I chose is a bit weak).22:43
usr13playman: just a sec.22:43
arrrghhhi already linked it ;)22:43
arrrghhhusr13, ^^22:43
digitigNewbie confused about networking. My Ubuntu computer has a wired network to my router which is working fine for internet. I also have NAS (iomega) with a wired connection to the router, and a couple of Windows PCs attached with wifi. a) do I need Samba to access the NAS, and b) how can I get it to connect to the Windows computers? I've tried the Samba documentation, but don't understand it.22:43
playmanthanks arrrghhh22:43
usr13http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices22:43
W4spusr13: Get some tin foil. It makes wonders.22:43
Plumblum_wich ftp server would you folks recommend ?22:44
playmanusr13: thanks22:44
Plumblum_or is the default one good enough22:44
usr13W4sp: hummm.... ?22:44
usr13maybe...22:44
arrrghhhDigiDaz, so the NAS is a set-top box?22:44
usr13playman: proftpd22:44
usr13Plumblum_: proftpd22:44
usr13sorry, wrong nic22:45
digitigarrrghhh: NAS = Network Attached Storage -- network RAID1 hard drive.22:45
arrrghhhdigitig, NAS is really vague.  it doesn't necessarily mean exactly that.22:45
arrrghhhdigitig, if your files are on the NAS, I don't see why you need Samba on your Ubuntu box.  That would be if you want your Windows machines to 'see' and copy files from your Ubuntu machine.22:46
bekksPlumblum_: vsftpd22:46
digitig@arrrghhh: It means that in my case -- it's a 4TB iomega Storcenter ix2.22:46
W4spusr13: OT: http://lifehacker.com/296367/boost-your-wireless-signal-with-a-homemade-wifi-extender22:46
arrrghhhdigitig, ok.  and that's where you want the Windows boxes to connect, right?  not the Ubuntu box?22:47
usr13W4sp: tnx22:47
digitig@arrrghhh: Eventually I will want to share files and printers with the Windows machines, but for tonight I will be happy if I Ubuntu can see the network storage (Windows already can).22:48
arrrghhhdigitig, oh you need Ubuntu to see the NAS... I see.  Does the NAS support NFS?22:48
digitig@arrrghhh: I don't know that, but "Linux" was listed on the box as a supported filesystem so my guess is that it does.22:49
davv3anyone else experiencing problems with ATI drivers now? my card now only supports opengl 1.4 i.e no compiz :(22:50
imranhow can i install a4 tech camera drivers on UBUNTU?22:50
davv3radeon hd 687022:50
imranYeah i am22:50
arrrghhhdigitig, i guess i shall google.  1 sec22:51
davv3imran: no unity 3d?22:51
skutr34Hi. I just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on my Lubuntu machine, and for some reason, I am having to select which disk on which to install the GRUB update. It is a graphical prompt within the terminal, and I need help selecting the disk. I press <Enter> on the disk and get a second prompt asking if I want to proceed without installing GRUB...22:51
imrandavv3: after installing ati drivers? NO22:52
deadmundskutr34: which disc did you install to? Make sure you choose the disc and not a partition :)22:52
davv3imran: so are you still experiencing problems? i have tried using both from the software repository and building a .deb from amd site22:53
skutr34deadmund: I installed it to my only hard drive. /dev/sda...22:53
deadmundskutr34: then I'm not sure what it's saying...22:53
digitig@arrrghhh: I'll google for NFS myself and have a go. I wasn't sure whether NFS and Samba were an either/or thing or if I could have both running to access different things.22:53
deadmundskutr34: Who cares, if it breaks something you can fix it from a live CD22:53
skutr34deadmund: It's what I am trying to select in the prompt, but I don't know how to select it...22:54
imrandavv3: I have tried everything but now i am better without my ati drivers22:54
deadmundskutr34: spacebar?22:54
arrrghhhdigitig, looks like it does support NFS.  You can use Samba (smb sometimes), but NFS will be faster.22:54
arrrghhhand IMHO easier.22:54
deadmundskutr34: space bar selects stuff22:54
davv3imran: can you paste output from fglrxinfo ?22:54
deadmundskutr34: You're probably pressing enter (thereby moving to the next screen without selecting anything)22:54
skutr34deadmund: Thanks. I'm stupid.22:54
mfaroukg1why my wireless gets very slow when I disconnect the charger?22:54
zykotick9arrrghhh: not to mention nfs' much high reliability...22:54
imrandavv3: 1 sec....22:55
deadmundskutr34: nope!  It's poorly designed :)22:55
arrrghhhzykotick9, we could go on and on... :P22:55
skutr34Thanks again.22:55
skutr34:)22:55
mfaroukg1why my wireless gets very slow when I disconnect the charger?22:55
arrrghhhdigitig, so does this thing have a web interface to configure it, or how do you access it before it is setup?22:55
davv3imran: vendor and version string22:56
deadmundmfaroukg1: Probably the laptop is slowing the processor to save power22:56
mfaroukg1deadmund: right!! so how to stop the processor power management ?22:57
imrandavv3: Sorry i don't know where is that info :(22:57
arrrghhhmfaroukg1, you OK with poor battery life?22:57
deadmundmfaroukg1: Look at the power management settings.  I don't know exactly where it is in the gui22:57
mfaroukg1deadmund, let me check22:57
deadmundmfaroukg1: I could be wrong.  Might be a hardware thing reducing the speed of the wifi module too (which you likely can't control)22:57
imrandavv3: I haven't installed ati drivers yet22:57
davv3imran: ok..22:57
digitig@arrrghhh: And I fall at the first hurdle: I don't understand the SettingUpNFSHowTo because I don't know what "exports" are in this context. (BTW, yes, the NAS does have a web interface).22:58
zykotick9digitig: /etc/exports determines what is "shared"22:58
W4spdigitig: I suggest you check the manual pages for shares with Linux systems. They describe where to click. Unfortunately they miss out what protocol they use. It is hopefully NFS.22:58
usr13W4sp: Isnt' that Patric Madrid?  ... or something like that...?22:58
bzzzzholy cow that's a lot of ports22:58
bzzzz.quit22:58
imrandavv3: Try compiz without installing drivers22:58
W4spusr13: You lost me here.22:59
arrrghhhdigitig, OK can you make sure NFS is enabled first?  then I can help ya get Ubuntu connected to it :)22:59
usr13W4sp: In that video....22:59
usr13W4sp: The guy on the right.22:59
arrrghhhdigitig, unless you know it's already enabled.  we can jump straight to the config.  let me know.23:00
mfaroukg1deadmund: nothing mentioned on the power management , what else can I check to find out the wifi processor ?23:00
W4spusr13: Oh, sorry. I don't know a person of that name and I did not watch the video. But the idea is good and it really helps to boost the signal.23:00
DocPlatypushas anyone actually gotten TranscriberAG to compile on 12.04 (precise)? since it appears the original Transcriber is now a dead project23:00
deadmundmfaroukg1: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167809823:00
digitig@arrrghhh: I've just done apt-get nfs-kernel-server, and it all seems to have gone ok. Is that what I need?23:00
bikcmpthis is more of a general Linux question- for a machine with very little ram (but it supports 64 bit), should I choose a 32 bit OS or a 64 bit OS?23:01
deadmundmfaroukg1: I don't know anything else about this issue :(23:01
arrrghhhdigitig, you need portmap as well IIRC23:01
davv3bikcmp: what is very little ram?23:01
zykotick9bikcmp: 32 probably...23:01
arrrghhhdigitig, wait... sorry you need nfs-common.  nfs-kernel-server is for the server.23:01
bikcmpdavv3: 256 mb, 512 mb23:01
arrrghhhdigitig, in this case, your ubuntu box is the 'client'.  the NAS is the 'server'.23:01
bikcmpdavv3: i heard that 64 bit takes away a bit of your ram23:01
bikcmpso23:01
arrrghhhbikcmp, wtf no.23:02
bikcmpno?23:02
usr13W4sp: Sorry, it's Patric Norton23:02
bikcmparrrghhh: sorry, i hate low level stuff :-p23:02
arrrghhhbikcmp, no.  but you shouldn't 'need' 64-bit23:02
bikcmparrrghhh: so why would I pick 32 bit over 6423:02
usr13W4sp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Norton23:02
arrrghhheven 32-bit with PAE supports up to.... 128gb of RAM?23:02
digitig@arrrghhh: Ok, I've installed portmap and nfs-common, and now know which is client and which is server.23:02
arrrghhhbikcmp, if you need 64-bit.  helps the proc run a bit better i would hope.23:02
W4spusr13: Alrrrright.23:03
arrrghhhdigitig, excellent.  can you run the mount command?  replace 'nfs-server' with the IP of your NAS23:03
guest___How can I setup an ubuntu system to be logged in from another computer over the web?23:03
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bikcmparrrghhh: but, if i was just given the choice for 32 bit or 64, choose 64?23:03
usr13W4sp: He used to be on  ZDTV (later TechTV)23:03
blake_What's a program like top and iotop, but for network send/recieve information?23:03
W4spI don't live in the US, so I don't know him.23:04
arrrghhhbikcmp, unless you need 32-bit for something.  most things have been fixed by now.23:04
zykotick9bikcmp: if you have less then 4GB don't waste your time with 64bit.  plus, yes it will use more RAM then 32bit23:04
blake_Or another way to show what process/etc info for network packets?23:04
arrrghhhblake_, nettop?23:04
usr13W4sp: Ok, never mind.  But thanks for the link. I'll make the "Windsurfer" parabolic dish :)23:04
arrrghhhblake_, or netstat23:04
blake_arrrghhh thanks23:05
digitigarrrghhh: just looking up the ip address. Back soon!23:05
arrrghhhdigitig, np23:05
arrrghhhblake_, np23:05
arrrghhh:)23:05
arrrghhhnow will someone help me?  :P23:05
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W4spusr13: That's great, isn't it. It actually increases the speed, improves latency. I guess less packages are being dropped?23:06
arrrghhhsoooo how do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic23:06
kfizzI'm connecting to a wireless network different from the one I usually use. When I connected, I got a  notification that avahi was being disabled because the ISP did something with the .local domain. I can connect to my chat networks just fine, but browsing the web is awfully slow and I have to refresh a page multiple times before it loads.23:07
blake_How do I list my network adapter devices in CLI?23:07
kfizzI've tried changing the connection's DNS servers to Google's DNS, but I still don't have much luck. Any ideas on how to fix this?23:07
arrrghhhkfizz, how do you know it's not the network in general?23:07
arrrghhhblake_, ifconfig23:07
zykotick9blake_: "ifconfig" and/or "lspci | grep -i network" might work23:07
blake_thanks arrrghhh23:07
kfizzarrrghhh, I can connect from my Android tablet and browse just fine.23:07
arrrghhhkfizz, hrm.  i'm not sure then :/23:08
kfizzAlso, Netflix via the blu-ray player works well, also.23:08
kfizzarrrghhh, me either. It's a doosey.23:08
arrrghhhkfizz, does ping drop packets?  ping 8.8.8.823:08
blake_zykotick9 is there a way to make it so -i is always assumed with the grep command for example?23:08
kfizzarrrghhh, 0% packet loss.23:09
W4spkfizz: What's your hostname? Is it host or host.localdomain?23:09
TheMadDrizzleI'm trying to dualboot Ubuntu and Arch, and i'm really confused as to how to partition my HDD to do so - I've never had a dual boot before, any help?23:09
kfizzhostname is the name of my laptop23:09
kfizzW4sp, forgot to tag you in previous message.23:10
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Can you ask a more specific question?23:10
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: I can help.23:10
TheMadDrizzleSure23:10
zykotick9blake_: i doubt it...23:10
TheMadDrizzledeadmund: Sure23:11
zykotick9blake_: i guess you could alias "grep" to "grep -i" but i don't think that's a good idea23:11
blake_zykotick9 The answer I was looking for is "make a shell script that says "grep -i $1"23:11
blake_Yes thanks zykotick923:11
kfizzarrrghh, as an aside, I pinged www.google.com and the time was considerably longer and had a 16% packet loss.23:11
TheMadDrizzleI'm confused as to where and why I need multiple mout points for the different partitions?  And how to effectivly partition to make both bootable once both distros are installed.23:12
TheMadDrizzle*mount23:12
arrrghhhkfizz, hrm.  i don't think that's DNS... because you've already resolved the name to an IP if you can ping23:12
TheMadDrizzleI have a two physical hdds.  I wanted to use my 120gb for Ubuntu, Arch, and swap, then use my 80gb as a backup / storage.23:13
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Each distro will have a set of mount points.  These are pointers to partitions.  Each distro needs some mountpoints to boot (specifically / and swap).  Some partitions can be used by more than one distro (swap).  Some cannot.  The whole thing becomes more complicated if you have a separate /home).23:13
kfizzIt's super strange. I almost wish the other devices were just as slow so that I'd know it was the network and not my laptop.23:13
kfizzAnd this is the first time I've used this new laptop and Ubuntu 12.04 on this network -- I'd never seen the avahi message before and it's the same network as before.23:14
zykotick9TheMadDrizzle: FYI sharing swap is a BAD idea, if you use hibernate23:14
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: So on the 120 Gb HDD.  You'll need two roots (one for ubuntu, one for arch), an optional /home, and a swap.  The other hdd you can just partition and make mountpoints in the OS's later after they're installed23:14
deadmundzykotick9: TheMadDrizzle he's right about swap and hibernate.  But all it means is hibernate will be weird23:14
taoanybody got Ralink Rt2790 wireless pci adapter working under 12.04? i tried linux-backport-modules as well as ndiswrapper, both not working23:15
zykotick9TheMadDrizzle: also, sharing a home might not work so great either... expect issues.23:15
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: for example, if you hibernate ubuntu but then boot arch it will probs not boot well or the hibernation will be lost as best23:15
blake_In Ubuntu 12.04, is there a interface to manage startup programs? I want to add Skype to it.23:15
W4spkfizz: Tehre are a variety of options you have. You can switch on debugging or check the status. Also, If all fails restart the daemon.23:15
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: he's right about that too23:15
kfizzTheMadDrizzle, just my .02, but I tried sharing a home between Ubuntu and Mint one time and it didn't work very well.23:15
TheMadDrizzledeadmund: Okay, I generally powerdown my system when not in use, so that's okay.   So I need to create a root on my 80gb as well?  And Ubuntu wont let me partition with two root labled partitions23:15
Delta|MacI have a Asus PCIe soundcard with the C-Media CMI8786 chipset. I know there is not much support in alsa.  Is there any known stable fix for playout? Ubuntu don't see the soundcards but lspci -nn does.23:16
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: 'root' is a mountpoint.  You should just create one big empty partition on the 80Gb.  It is not used as a root partition23:16
jnhghyblake_ try Aplications->system tools->preferences->startup programs23:16
W4spkfizz: In a terminal window check man avahi or see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/avahi-daemon.8.html23:16
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Ubuntu won't let you modify partitions that are mounted and the root partition cannot be unmounted23:17
kfizzThanks, w4sp, and arrrghhh. I'll try some other things and see if I can figure it out.23:17
blake_jnhghy there is no "Preferences" in Unity. I'm using 12.04 fresh install.23:17
jnhghysearch for statup programs/ what do you want to run?what program?23:18
TheMadDrizzledeadmund: Currently I'm running on a live cd, so deleting partitions isn't much of a problem.  I'm still confused as to which file system type and mount point to use for the partitions.23:18
blake_jnhghy I want to add a couple programs to start up when I login. There is no "Startup Programs"23:18
xanguablake_: jnhghy powe icon in the top right - startup apps23:18
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Use ext4 for everything.23:18
TheMadDrizzledeadmund:  Maybe arch isn't right for me at this time, which is shitty I was really hoping to figure it out.23:18
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Arch is hard no doubt.23:19
zykotick9deadmund: s/hard/lame/ ;)23:19
digitigarrrghhh: How long should I have to wait for the mount command to come back? I've entered sudo mount -o soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.0.16:/tim /nfs and it's all gone quiet...23:19
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: But, if you install arch first, use the entire disc, then install Ubuntu.  Ubuntu will give you the option to install side-by-side with arch without messing it up23:19
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: What I would do is 2 of the same size ext4 partitions for root and then one large ext4 for a shared home partition. Swap at the end.23:19
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: The other order does not work because arch does not have such a feature built into their installer (although you can do it manually).23:20
blake_xangua Thanks!23:20
playmanarrrghhh: you still there?23:20
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: My method would be more manual like deadmund said.23:20
blake_xangua funny it's not in "System Settings"23:20
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: Each distro installed needs a root and a swap.  So for each installer create an ext4 partition and mount it at root.  Then create a swap for each OS as well23:20
arrrghhhplayman, yea what's up?  did i break everything?  :)23:20
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bekksdeadmund: You can share one swap among all distros.23:21
playmanarrrghhh: man you screwed that router man23:21
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  Thats the way I've been trying to set it up, but with not to much luck.23:21
playmanarrrghhh: nah just joking23:21
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: What are you using to partition?23:21
deadmundbekks: yes but it breaks hibernation23:21
arrrghhhdigitig, i don't see a system type.  do those mountpoints exist as well?23:21
arrrghhhplayman, lol don't mess with me like that!  :P23:21
bekksdeadmund: ack. but no one forces you to use hibernation ;)23:21
deadmundbekks: indeed :)23:22
ajax11124In linux would installing a library to use with C++ be something thats IDE specific? Or do you install it on the system and it works with everything?23:22
playmanarrrghhh: but that freaking router wont accept my new DHCP pool -.-23:22
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  I've got two physical drives.  120gb and a 80gb.  I wanted to dual boot ubuntu and arch on the 120 and use my 80gb as storage23:22
W4spplayman: You have a sense of humor.23:22
playmanarrrghhh: lol sorry I wont :D23:22
arrrghhhplayman, back to pm?23:22
playmanarrrghhh: yeah sure23:22
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Are you using GParted to partition? that's the easiest route.23:22
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  ubuntu default partitioner.  I"m running on a live cd of ubuntu.23:22
playmanW4sp: thank you :)23:22
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Run Gparted (outside of the installer) and create your partitions.23:23
taois it possible to convert a partition from ext3 to ext4 and is there performance gain?23:23
KatsumeBlisk2 root and swap on the 120 and a storage on the 8023:23
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: ^^23:23
digitigarrrghhh: I got that command from http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-nfs-client-configuration-to-mount-nfs-share.html -- yes, /nfs exists as a directory. The mount timed out, and showmount -e 192.168.1.1 returns "Connection refused". (I've no idea what showmount does, it's just an incantation I got from that website.)23:24
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: You need to be more specific about what you are confused about.  Or at least ask a question beside "I'm confused about how to do it"23:24
arrrghhhdigitig, lol ok 1 sec23:24
TheMadDrizzledeadmund:  I'm trying to distill it myself down to one or two questions, sorry for being vague.23:25
arrrghhhdigitig, like this command : sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt23:25
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: That's ok!  Just trying to help you :)23:25
TheMadDrizzledeadmund:  I'm aware of how frustrating it is to try and help someone who says ' uh hey this doesnt work, help? '  I'm an avionics tech... pilots are dumb.23:26
jnhghyTheMadDrizzle: you can run partition tools from outside the ubuntu install program to set up your partitions. This is what KatsumeBlisk suggested23:26
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: :)23:26
minimectao: Yes you can. You will have some performance gain, but it would be better to create a clean new ext4. Performance gain would be even better. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html23:26
TheMadDrizzlejnhghy:  I'm currently looking at gparted right now23:26
amr_hi ,I need support23:29
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Is there anything else on these drives that you want preserved?23:29
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  no, not at all,  This laptop was a gift and had windows on it, all locked up.  So no, nothing needs to be saved.  I've currently formatted both hdds, so they're empty now.23:30
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Did you do two root and 1 swap on 120 and then one on 80?23:31
deadmundKatsumeBlisk: TheMadDrizzle I agree, do that.23:31
KatsumeBlisk!ask | amr_23:31
ubottuamr_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:31
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  They should be about 55% for / and then 10% for swap?23:32
TheMadDrizzlekatsumeBlisk:  Sorry 55%X223:32
amr_I used the order to create swap file but it didn't work, my case is as follows I am on ubuntu live (on flash drive) and I wan to make swap file on my main hard disk23:32
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Question: Do you want these distros to share a home directory?23:33
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Basically, they'll23:33
KatsumeBliskoops23:33
irrswlx.23:33
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Basically they'll "stay in sync". You won't have anything extra to do when using one distro over the other.23:33
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Your settings for applications will carry over too.23:33
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  Yes, I would prefer that.23:34
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Is it possible for you to use the 120 has the storage and the 80 as the booted HDD? You'd get more storage this way.23:34
OerHeksI think that is a bad idea, sharing /home between ubuntu+arch23:34
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Root doesn't need to be massive when you have home on a different partition.23:34
KatsumeBliskOerHeks: Why's that?23:34
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  I dont see why I couldn't do that.23:34
blake_Where did "Advanced Desktop Effects" go in Ubuntu 12.04??23:35
defnordic_hi, I am trying to get cassandra up and running on ubuntu 11.04 - but cassandra never starts listening on port 9160, when I kill all processes and start cassandra -f, nothing happens and I have to kill it to stop it :/23:35
amr_here is the order (but it didn't work) >>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap23:35
bazhangblake_, in ccsm23:36
deadmundKatsumeBlisk: OerHeks I agree. One possible issue.  If you install xchat in both distros the same settings file will be used in the home folder and it is likely the settings files are constructed differently.  Therefore when Ubuntu xchat writes it's settings they will appear as nonsense to arch's xchat and visa-versa23:36
bazhang!ccsm | blake_23:36
ubottublake_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz23:36
blake_Thanks bazhang23:36
KatsumeBliskdeadmund: OerHeks I forgot that Arch uses different versions of programs since it's rolling. I agree. Oops23:36
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Scratch my idea. It's a bad one. Didn't fully think it through. I recommend doing what you were originally. 120 with 2 roots and swap and 80 as storage. Sorry about that.23:37
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JC-PTYhello guys...23:37
amr_any one can tell me why the following order give me unexpected number of arguments? >>>>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap23:37
deadmundyeah23:37
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  Not a problem, i'm still mucking about anyways -=)23:38
deadmundKatsumeBlisk: TheMadDrizzle I agree with that23:38
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OerHeksYou can add a seperate partition to share media/documents and data from apps23:38
blake_If anyone from the Ubuntu development team is online, I'd like to thank you. Ubuntu is running really nice for me and I'm telling EVERYONE about it!23:38
JC-PTYI would like to know the commands on how to start xvnc from my ssh session so that i can have control of the full GUI when needed23:38
deadmundOerHeks: that's what he's doing on the separate 80Gb23:38
KatsumeBliskOerHeks: Yeah. I was trying to be cool and have home be shared. On distros with the same version (ie Mint and Ubuntu), that's really helpful. lol.23:38
JC-PTYi have Ubuntu 12.0423:38
CRF_H0M3Rhiho23:40
amr_any one can tell me why the following order give me unexpected number of arguments? >>>>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap23:40
KatsumeBlisk!patience | amr_23:40
ubottuamr_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:40
goldenwestanyone know of a command-line utility to quiz yourself with "notecards" containing various questions23:41
bawwwllerhi is Mark Shuttleworth still the one who cracks the whip?23:41
bazhang!ot | bawwwller23:43
ubottubawwwller: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:43
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OerHeksamr_, try "fallocate -l 6GB ..... " >> see man fallocate23:45
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zilla_hi23:46
zilla_where is the window management settings? to control what folders look like23:46
Delta|MacI have a Asus PCIe soundcard with the C-Media CMI8786 chipset. I know there is not much support in alsa.  Is there any known stable fix for playout? Ubuntu don't see the soundcards but lspci -nn does.23:46
zilla_new to ubuntu 1223:46
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk, deadmund:  Thank you both for the help!23:47
amr_oerheks: didn't work too23:47
deadmundTheMadDrizzle: sure23:47
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: Is that all you needed?23:47
zilla_how to cgange to mist theme?23:47
minimecamr_: I just start reading your question. So you want to create a 6GB swap file? You could also use 'dd' for that. The command would besomthing like: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/6144MB.swap bs=1M count=6144 That would create a 6GB file in /mnt. You would then have to add that one in your /etc/fstab23:47
TheMadDrizzleKatsumeBlisk:  I think so, I may be back later with more vague questions!23:48
KatsumeBliskTheMadDrizzle: No problem! Glad I could help. :)23:48
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amr_minimec: thank you so much for answering me but I am very new here and need step by step help, so the case is that I am on ubuntu live on my flash bootable drive and I want to make swap file on my main hard disk to be able to hibernate so is this possible?23:50
blake_What command do I use to launch a program minimized?23:51
KatsumeBliskblake_: With the command line or what?23:51
KatsumeBliskblake_: With CLI, I believe it's <program> &23:52
blake_KatsumeBlisk no for gnome23:52
blake_Like Skype23:52
OerHekssome programs use -min others use -systray23:53
bugalooHi all! So... I have an old dv2000 hp laptop, running ubuntu 12.04, and when I'm using the battery, the sound appears to go to standby, but it doesn't work well, and it keeps  "clicking", like if it was going in and out of standby mode... any leads?23:53
blake_OerHeks I have already checked the software's command line arguments.23:53
KatsumeBliskI think my answer was background and not minimized...23:53
blake_KatsumeBlisk Yes I agree =)23:53
minimecamr_: This is possible. You would have to mount the partition you want to use for the swap file first. What file system would that partition use? ext4 or ntfs?23:54
caixais there a good equalizer for ubuntu?  i tried the pulseaudio one and it distorts and overamps too much23:54
amr_it's ntfs with windows 7 on it23:54
arrrghhhdigitig, you get it workin?  sorry i haven't seen you ping me23:55
amr_I just want to use 6g of it as my swap file for my live ubuntu system without any problems for windows 7 sys23:55
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OerHeksThere is a tool called devilspie for minimised or open dedicated screen http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-start-applications-minimized.html23:56
arrrghhhamr_, swap needs to be raw empty disk basically23:56
dylanI have that red caution triangle at the top of my screen, however when I check for updates, there are none available.23:56
minimecamr_: First create a folder, where you want to mount that partition to. For example: sudo mkdir -p /media/win7 (--> new folder win7 in /media)23:57
amr_arrrghh: I am not sure I understand you, I don't want to make a partition swap just swap file !!!23:57
dylanamr_:swap HAS to be a partition23:57
eidstenHey! I have a question i'm hoping someone could answer: Which distro would run best on a 64MB ram system?23:57
KatsumeBliskamr_: There's no such thing as a swap file afaik. It's a partition.23:57
dylanamr_: it only has to be a few gigs tho23:57
digitigarrrghhh: No joy with that mount command, either. For what it's worth, I can see the drive just fine if I point an internet browser at the IP address. I've also checked the  iomega documentation again. It says to use their Linux setup software, but it's 32-bit only and I have a 64-bit installation.23:57
dylaneidsten: I would try something like puppy linux or Damn Small Linux23:57
minimecamr_: then you have to check how ubuntu sees that partiton right now: sudo fdisk -l (--> will list all available partitions)23:58
arrrghhhdigitig, nah this shouldn't be so difficult.  maybe it's the type of NFS we're using.  have you tried v3?23:58
eidstendylan: I tried Puppy already, it's kind of slow(!) perhaps it's the GPU, i'll try DSL! Thank you!23:58
amr_minimec: my main hard disk is alrady monted to ubuntu23:59
bugaloodoes anybody know how to disable the auto standby of sound system when the laptop is running on battery?23:59
amr_and I made folder on it which I want to add the sawp file inside it with this name: ubuntu live drive program files23:59

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