[00:00] <extrasolar> done it ?
[00:00] <Megas> He's doing
[00:00] <Fudge> dd?
[00:01] <extrasolar> Megas then follow these instructions carefully http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:01] <duhamel> Megas: I missed the beginning of your problem, but if you have a problem installing distros do a Md5sum check and compare with linux's hashes.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Megas: Have you ever successfully booted from USB on this hardware?
[00:02] <Megas> Yep a lot of times
[00:02] <Megas> duhamel: im trying to boot ubuntu from a live pen on a ChromeOS acer aspire one
[00:02] <harris> can all ubuntu programs run in all linux
[00:02] <extrasolar>  Draugauth  erm
[00:02] <Megas> But he keep telling to me Missing operating sistem
[00:03] <Megas> It's not the first time that i install ubuntu from live pen so it's strange
[00:03] <extrasolar> did you install the graphics drivers for your system
[00:03] <Draugauth> extrasolar:  Yep and they are active and working.
[00:03] <harris> can all ubuntu programs run ian any linix
[00:03] <extrasolar> drivers from the repos?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> Megas: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in.
[00:04] <Draugauth> extrasolar:  The restricted drivers yes.
[00:04] <duhamel> Unetbootin has syslinix boot and if your distros md5sum is good you can put ity on almost anyhardware through bios boot menu
[00:04] <Megas> I can't boot the live pen so i can't use the terminal
[00:04] <Jordan_U> harris: No. Though there are very few applications which are packaged for Ubuntu but not other distributions.
[00:04] <extrasolar> Megas is using window
[00:04] <extrasolar> s
[00:04] <extrasolar> Megas have you followed those instructions yet?
[00:04] <alabamahit> Hey guys got a problem with my 'mouse'. It lags across the screen...and at idea my cpu is at like 7%..(i7 2600k with gigabyte board) so shouldn't be up that high. not sure if they are related or not. best way to describe it is like watching a video on youtube and someone is recording their screen and the mouse seems to lag behind..
[00:04] <Megas> Yep the live usb is ready
[00:04] <Megas> im trying it now
[00:05] <extrasolar> Draugauth
[00:05] <harris> what version of linux is best for a studentt
[00:05] <Jordan_U> !best | harris
[00:05] <extrasolar> Ubuntu dosn't work any different from laptop to desktop
[00:05] <Megas> Holy sh**
[00:05] <extrasolar> harris just use ubuntu
[00:05] <Megas> Still nothing
[00:05] <Megas> I fell like stupid
[00:05] <extrasolar> No no
[00:05] <extrasolar> put the usb stick back into the windows machine
[00:05] <Draugauth> extrasolar:  Just annoying that it says laptop for the display.  Thanks for the help.
[00:06] <Megas> Done
[00:06] <Draugauth> Anyone know how to team NICs?
[00:06] <extrasolar> open My Computer
[00:06] <harris> can i make the launcher look like a mac launcher
[00:06] <duhamel> harris: if you want to learn linux ubuntu is a good place to start, it gives you very limited root access so you're not as likely to mess things up.
[00:06] <Megas> Done
[00:06] <harris>  can i make the launcher look like a mac launcher
[00:06] <extrasolar> has the usb stick been renamed to 'PEN DRIVE'
[00:06] <extrasolar> in caps
[00:07] <Megas> Yes
[00:07] <extrasolar> ok go into the folder
[00:07] <Megas> ok
[00:07] <Jordan_U> harris: Yes, but I would recommend trying out the default launcher for a while to see if you like it before trying to emulate OSX.
[00:07] <duhamel> harris: you and make it look like an xbox or anything, really
[00:07] <qualia> what tool do the web designers use ?
[00:08] <jdanna> how do i figure otu what disk devices are connected via firewire on ubuntu?
[00:08] <extrasolar> is there linux files etc?
[00:08] <jdanna> it sees the pci firewire card in dmesg
[00:08] <duhamel> qualia: to do what?
[00:08] <Megas> Yes all folders and files
[00:08] <fishbait> how do i update fglrx i'm trying to get the post-release updates but it won't install them jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138742
[00:08] <Jordan_U> jdanna: ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/
[00:08] <extrasolar> Megas what version of ubuntu is it?
[00:08] <qualia> im only looking for easy usage with HTML CSS and Javascript autocompletion
[00:08] <Megas> 12.04
[00:08] <qualia> because im a beginner with web design
[00:08] <qualia> but i generally use vim for coding
[00:08] <jdanna> Jordan_U: wow now thats quite clever isnt it
[00:08] <extrasolar> this is quite strange.....
[00:08] <extrasolar> ok
[00:09] <extrasolar> to confirm the error you got was
[00:09] <duhamel> oracle and text editor.
[00:09] <extrasolar> missing operating system?
[00:09] <qualia> but in web design vim will be hard to manage, I don't wanna memorize the CSS elements and stuff
[00:09] <harris> Jordan_U,  i have been using ubuntu for a year i dont like it
[00:09] <qualia> so is it better to use an eclipse plugin ?
[00:09] <extrasolar> did you follow those instructions bit by bit?
[00:09] <Megas> Yep he say Missing operating sistem,the ChromeOS start from the HDD
[00:09] <qualia> that has completion for all the web design languages
[00:09] <qualia> or ?
[00:09] <Megas> Yes
[00:09] <Megas> then*
[00:09] <extrasolar> ok
[00:09] <extrasolar> erm
[00:09] <extrasolar> have you got a CD or DVD laying around?
[00:10] <alabamahit> Hey guys got a problem with my 'mouse'. It lags across the screen...and at idea my cpu is at like 7%..(i7 2600k with gigabyte board) so shouldn't be up that high. not sure if they are related or not. best way to describe it is like watching a video on youtube and someone is recording their screen and the mouse seems to lag behind..
[00:10] <Megas> The main problem is that the netbook dosent have a cd reader
[00:10] <extrasolar> Megas it should work here because I have just tested pen drive linux an ubuntu
[00:10] <duhamel> Megas: do you have access to a windows computer?
[00:11] <extrasolar> there is something you're not doing
[00:11] <extrasolar> she is on windows
[00:11] <extrasolar> he
[00:11] <extrasolar> she/he
[00:11] <FloodBot1> extrasolar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <Megas> she XD
[00:11] <Megas> Is not the first time that i do that thing
[00:11] <Megas> Im actually sure that everything is fine
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Megas: Can you get to a terminal from within ChromeOS?
[00:11] <Megas> Yes
[00:11] <L3top> alabamahit: what is the gpu? lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:11] <duhamel> eff that.
[00:11] <harris> Jordan_U,  how do i mac it look like mac
[00:12] <Megas> Is linux built so he have the linux terminal
[00:12] <Megas> Is seem like a MBR problem
[00:12] <duhamel> Megas: it is an mbr problem
[00:12] <duhamel> almost positive.
[00:13] <duhamel> iv'e had this before
[00:13] <extrasolar> right
[00:13] <extrasolar> ouch!
[00:13] <extrasolar> I had one too
[00:13] <Megas> im on some kind of terminal i used ''sudo su'' to gain administrator command
[00:13] <fishbait> how do i update fglrx i'm trying to get the post-release updates but it won't install them my /var/log/jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138742
[00:13] <duhamel> ubuntu.
[00:13] <Draugauth> Anyone know how to team NICs?
[00:14] <extrasolar> lol fishbait
[00:14] <Megas> I suppose it's linux like
[00:14] <duhamel> so change directory to wherever the linux isop is.
[00:14] <duhamel> iso
[00:14] <Megas> Maybe i can install it from the terminal
[00:14] <Megas> But i dont have idea on how to do it
[00:14] <Megas> <3
[00:15] <alabamahit> L3top: Thanks for responding. Sorry it took so long, it is very hard to do anything with the mouse. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138750/ <--result
[00:15] <Jordan_U> Megas: Do you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[00:15] <fishbait> well when i try by clicking activate it downloads it then fails at installation
[00:15] <Megas> On the pendrive there is loopback.cfg
[00:15] <Megas> In the boot folder
[00:16] <extrasolar> have you tried the package manger
[00:16] <Jordan_U> Megas: What is the output of "ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in the ChromeOS terminal?
[00:16] <L3top> alabamahit: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[00:16] <duhamel> Megas: let's start from the begining.
[00:16] <soliloquy> Hi. The last time I used Gnome it was 2.0; there were metacity themes and GTK themes. Now, there's GTK 2 themes, and GTK 3 themes (which I understand) and Mutter themes (which I also understand) - my question is, what's the difference between those and a Gnome 3x shell theme?
[00:16] <fishbait> no will try then
[00:16] <L3top> alabamahit: then reboot
[00:16] <harris> how do you make the laucher in ubuntu look like mac launcher
[00:16] <Megas> no such file or directory
[00:16] <extrasolar> harris
[00:17] <extrasolar> try xubuntu
[00:17] <alabamahit> L3top: Rebooting now. Will be back.
[00:17] <SJr> I have a list of packages that I installed from a PPA source, and now I want to get rid of them and go back to the older source. How do I get rid of them. They are pretty key so I can't just remove them.
[00:17] <harris> what is xubuntu
[00:17] <alabamahit> Thanks again.
[00:17] <Jordan_U> Megas: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?
[00:17] <extrasolar> or try this harris on ubuntu
[00:17] <extrasolar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132521/how-can-i-make-my-ubuntu-12-04-look-like-a-mac
[00:17] <harris> what is xubuntu
[00:17] <Megas> the same as before
[00:18] <Megas> No such file or directory
[00:18] <extrasolar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[00:18] <Jordan_U> harris: Try installing avant-window-navigator.
[00:19] <fishbait> i googled it found the soloution lol
[00:19] <extrasolar> what was the solution?
[00:19] <extrasolar> link
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Megas: Did you mean "command not found"?
[00:19] <Megas> nope
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Megas: Please pastebin the exact command you're running, and the output.
[00:19] <Megas> Bash ''the command'' no such file or directory
[00:20] <harris> i need imovie for a class can ubuntu run imovie
[00:20] <Jordan_U> harris: No.
[00:20] <extrasolar> no
[00:20] <harris> i need it
[00:21] <alabamahit> L3top: It does seem little better....But it is still jerky/laggy
[00:21] <Megas> http://pastebin.com/zBG1PYd6
[00:21] <extrasolar> You seem to want to use a mac
[00:21] <extrasolar> use a mac
[00:21] <harris> dont have the money
[00:21] <Jordan_U> harris: If you need iMovie specifically, you need a mac. We can't change that.
[00:21] <extrasolar> there's other movie editors for linux
[00:21] <fishbait> long link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138756
[00:22] <L3top> hmmm alabamahit... I was really hoping that solved it. let me look around a bit. I am assuming you are using Unity 3d correct?
[00:22] <harris> is there a program that can do every imovie can
[00:22] <extrasolar> oh cheers
[00:22] <Jordan_U> harris: There are video editors available for Ubuntu. And I doubt that your teacher specifically requires iMovie.
[00:22] <Megas> harris: then install chromeOS so you can trow your pc on the toilet <3
[00:22] <extrasolar> you can post links yano
[00:22] <Megas> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/zBG1PYd6 this is the command and the output
[00:22] <harris> can you run imovie in chromeos
[00:22] <extrasolar> no
[00:22] <alabamahit> L3top: It's doing it on all enviroments.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> harris: Among other things, that would cause problems for the majority of students, who are probably running Windows (which can't run iMovie either).
[00:22] <Megas> lol
[00:23] <L3top> alabamahit: sudo update-pciids; lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:23] <L3top> alabamahit: as it is only one line, you can paste it in here.
[00:23] <harris> is there a program that can run all that imovie can
[00:23] <Megas> Oh god google stole my netbook T_T
[00:24] <extrasolar> not really
[00:24] <extrasolar> but there are alternatives
[00:24] <alabamahit> L3top:  Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2012-07-11 03:15:01 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0122] (rev 09)
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Megas: "grub-install" not "grub/install".
[00:24] <harris> what is the best alternative
[00:24] <Megas> fu-
[00:25] <extrasolar> harris define best
[00:25] <alabamahit> L3top: It is the onchip graphics of the 2600k. hd3000 i think. using dvi and hdmi port if that matters?.
[00:25] <L3top> alabamahit: Ok... so it is a sandy bridge. What version ubuntu are you on?
[00:25] <Megas> I have another news extrasolar Jordan_U the live pen dosent work on windows either
[00:25] <Megas> lol
[00:25] <alabamahit> L3top: 12.04
[00:25]  * L3top has real problems with that chipset on 1004, but would expect 1204 would be good to go alabamahit.
[00:25] <harris> closest to imovie
[00:26] <extrasolar> harris dear
[00:26] <bazhang> harris try openshot
[00:26] <Megas> Jordan_U: this time he say command not found
[00:27] <Megas> Why my netbook got to be a nice ball
[00:27] <extrasolar> Megas well pen drive linux does work as I have just tested it
[00:27] <Megas> But im sure i made everything perfect!
[00:27] <W4sp> harris: iMovie, the movie editing tool by Apple Inc. runs on some versions of Mac OS X.
[00:27] <Megas> Maybe the checksum is not correct?
[00:27] <extrasolar> perhaps
[00:27] <extrasolar> but
[00:28] <extrasolar> peb drive linux has it's own installation imag
[00:28] <alabamahit> L3top: it is x64 also.
[00:28] <extrasolar> that should appear first
[00:28] <extrasolar> to at least let you know something is on the pen drive
[00:29] <Megas> :(
[00:29] <Megas> So there is no way to repair my netbook? i got to keep chromeOS on it?
[00:29] <extrasolar> there is a way
[00:29] <Megas> i prefer to use it like a miniskirt
[00:29] <extrasolar> you haven' found it yet
[00:30] <Megas> The only thing that come in my mind
[00:30] <harris> can openshot do all of the transitions
[00:30] <Megas> Is that i installed only the old version of ubuntu
[00:30] <Megas> I never installed the 12.04
[00:30] <Megas> >.>
[00:30] <Megas> this time is the first
[00:31] <bazhang> harris, install it and try
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Megas: ChmomeOS must at least have dd, we can try dding Super GRUB2 Disk to your USB drive (it uses grub rather than syslinux, which might make the difference, though it sounds like you used syslinux before successfully).
[00:32] <Megas> it sound like a good chance
[00:32] <Megas> Just,how LOL
[00:33] <extrasolar> alright bed time
[00:33] <extrasolar> night all
[00:33] <Megas> good night extrasolar
[00:33] <Megas> wish me luck lol
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Megas: Download http://forja.cenatic.es/frs/download.php/1456/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1-beta1.iso then pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in and I'll tell you what dd command to use.
[00:34] <Megas> gotcha
[00:34] <Megas> the pendrive must have ubuntu 12.04 installed on it?
[00:34] <Megas> or only the super_grub2_disk?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> Megas: No. We're going to completely whipe the USB drive, so it should have nothing that you care about on it.
[00:35] <Megas> perfect
[00:35] <harris> is linux mint like vista
[00:36] <Megas> Jordan_U: what program i use to make the livepen with this?
[00:36] <bazhang> harris, thats offtopic here
[00:36] <L3top> how much ram do you have alabamahit?
[00:36] <harris> where is the linux mint channel
[00:36] <alabamahit> L3top: 16GB
[00:36] <bazhang> !mintsupport | harris
[00:37] <brophat> my question regards that functionality where when I am moving a window around the desktop and I release the mouse button when the cursor is near the boundary of my monitor screen then the window that I was moving will open full screen.
[00:38] <alabamahit> L3top: Complete spec. i7 2600k. Gigabyte Z68 board. 120gb SSD, 16gb ram, 2TB hdd for storage..Using the video from i7. (hd3000) i hink.
[00:38] <p014k> So 11.04 has ubuntu classic as an option. 11.10 doesn't (correct?). I want to upgrade to 12.04, but I don't want to use unity. Is there a guide somewhere on how to get 'ubuntu classic' in 12.04?
[00:38] <Daekdroom> 11.10 does have Classic as an option.
[00:38] <blackshirt> is there special config to use phpldapadmin with TLS?
[00:38] <bazhang> !notunity | p014k
[00:38] <Megas> Jordan_U:
[00:38] <Megas> guess what
[00:38] <Megas> still the same ERROR.
[00:39] <Megas> Missing operating sistem
[00:39] <Megas> I dont know how this is possible
[00:39] <bazhang> Megas, dont hit the enter key so often. keep it on ONE line
[00:39] <brophat> anyone know that functionality I am referring to?
[00:39] <Megas> bazhang: sorry.
[00:40] <p014k> Interesting. So then just by doing a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool gnome-panel' i can get classic back?
[00:40] <blackshirt> brophat, what's your problem?
[00:40] <bazhang> p014k, somewhat close to classic
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Megas: We haven't done anything yet, you were going to give me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" so that I could tell you the right dd command to run..
[00:40] <brophat> blackshirt I would like to have it stop doing that.
[00:40] <p014k> cool, thx
[00:40] <L3top> alabamahit: I will have to do some looking around... with those stats, that chipset, and the accelleration I had you install, I would expect flawless response. I wouldn't have expected any issues outside of h264 playback frankly. I will have to do some research, but it is in my best interest... so stick around for a while if you can.
[00:40] <Megas> Jordan_U: he dosent boot,neither this super_grub2disk give me the same error
[00:41] <Megas> when i try to boot the pendrive he say to me missing operating sistem,like the livepen of linux
[00:41] <blackshirt> sory brophat, i just join here for a minute
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Megas: How did you try to put SG2D on the USB drive?
[00:42] <Megas> With linux live usb creator
[00:42] <Megas> Like always
[00:42] <W4sp> bazhang: PMFJI. Will it create a new entry in the list of lightdm and what is it called? It's not GNOME Classic, is it?
[00:42] <L3top> alabamahit: does top reveal any unusual CPU hit?
[00:42] <alabamahit> L3top: I will. And thank you very much for helping me out. I have googled like crazy and nothing turned up......little more info...i have tried kubuntu and ubuntu both. mint. all of them where same result in the lagg/jerky mouse
[00:43] <alabamahit> L3top: not sure what you mean by top reveal. But I know that i'm idling at 6-7%..and that is kinda high for this rig.
[00:44] <L3top> alabamahit: type "top" in a terminal, without quotes
[00:44] <pourtech> what is the command to install skype?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> Megas: Because I gave you specific instructions, which you did not follow, and I was going to give you more instructions after seeing the output of "sudo fdisk -l">
[00:44] <W4sp> !pm | harris
[00:44] <Megas> Jordan_U: i followed your instruction i putted supergrub2disk on the usb pendrive
[00:45] <Megas> and tryed to boot it
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Megas: No, those weren't my instructions.
[00:45] <bazhang> pourtech, its in partner. enable partner repo and install from there
[00:45] <xangua> !partner| pourtech: enable the partner repo first and after that: sudo apt-get install skype
[00:45] <Megas> Jordan_U: Sorry,maybe i dident understand well,can you repeat it for me? sorry again
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Megas: Download http://forja.cenatic.es/frs/download.php/1456/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1-beta1.iso then pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the USB drive plugged in and I'll tell you what dd command to use.
[00:46] <Megas> ok
[00:46] <alabamahit> L3top: what from that would you be wondering.? log going there.
[00:46] <nestor_> help me for install ubuntu12.04 in import document and settig, help me plase
[00:47] <MagicalMuffin> nestor_
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Megas: You'll need to download the iso to some place other than the USB drive we're going to write it to (using dd, which I will tell you how to do).
[00:47] <payman_> hi
[00:47] <L3top> alabamahit: I am just curious if bug 997370 is related
[00:48] <Megas> Ok it's a long output now i will pastebin it
[00:48] <alabamahit> L3top:  Cpu(s):  0.2%us,  6.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 93.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st <--Only really odd (i think)
[00:49] <nestor_> :(
[00:51] <^John^> Hello. :)
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Megas: In about 10 minutes I'm going to have to leave. I'll still be able to help you, but I might take a while to respond and won't type very much (since phone keyboards are slow and annoying :).
[00:52] <blackshirt> Hello john
[00:52] <Megas> Jordan_U a moment and i will link it to you
[00:54] <Megas> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/nzRbkdk4
[00:56] <excervo> hello, can som1 help me how t use mutt?
[00:57] <brophat> nobody knows how to stop windows from auto maximizing when you are moving them around the desktop?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Megas: You're using GPT on your flash drive, that's an odd choice and may be what has been causing you problems.
[00:57] <Megas> I don't even know wtf is it XD
[00:57] <Megas> Dont forget im a woman,a geek,but always a woman lol
[00:58] <Tversted> 1
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Megas: You clearly retyped that output. Is there a reason you can't use pastebin normally from ChromeOS?
[00:59] <L3top> alabamahit: PM
[00:59] <Megas> Yep because the terminal dosent let me Copy and paste
[00:59] <Megas> xD
[00:59] <Jordan_U> Megas: Does it let you select text at all?
[00:59] <john515> how can someone completelly delete a messed up account?
[00:59] <btcbuy314> does anyone with a ti graphing calculator (ti83+) know if the calculator will turn on without the circular back up battery? could anyone check for me if they have one
[00:59] <Megas> No,there is no mouse or anything to select
[01:00] <Jordan_U> !ot | btcbuy314
[01:00] <^John^> Totally off-topic.
[01:00] <btcbuy314> i know this is ubuntu but theres not really a good channel for ti calculator help, and i figured a lot of people here probably have ti calculators
[01:01] <btcbuy314> and this channel is more helpful than most channels
[01:01] <^John^> :D
[01:01] <^John^> Hopefully more helpful than #slackware assholes...
[01:01] <Jordan_U> !language | ^John^
[01:02] <^John^> Professional.
[01:02] <^John^> ?
[01:02] <^John^> :D
[01:02] <john515> does anyone have any experience with the mail-stack-delivery package?
[01:02] <^John^> But those two former words... Naah.
[01:02] <btcbuy314> my calculator keeps turning off as soon as you turn it on and it has no back up calculator, i want to know if the back up battery will fix before i run out and buy one
[01:02] <^John^> Tired Old Man!
[01:03] <^John^> Like we all.
[01:03] <Karlos_Kaponi> new in linux, any tips?
[01:03] <btcbuy314> Karlos_Kaponi: download arch linux if you wnat to learn
[01:03] <Megas> Jordan_U: So,actually there is no way to get my netbook to ubuntu?
[01:03] <Karlos_Kaponi> thanks
[01:03] <btcbuy314> put it on an old computer to play around with
[01:04] <^John^> Of course there is.
[01:04] <^John^> I'm just personally disappointed now... I've used Slackware and everything f***s up nowadays...
[01:05] <john515> can someone help me with some dovecot related issues?
[01:05] <btcbuy314> that tip goes to anybody on ubuntu, when i switched from ubuntu to arch linux i learned SOOO much more about linux than i did using ubuntu within a week
[01:05] <^John^> Oh yeah?
[01:05] <^John^> I learned from Slackware too.
[01:06] <xangua> ^John^: drop that language and stick on the channel topic please
[01:06] <^John^> Channel topic?
[01:06] <W4sp> john515: the CLI for it would be userdel. Most use a GUI in settings/user accounts to remove an existing user.
[01:06] <john515> I have done so
[01:06] <^John^> I'm a freelancer, not some ass licker for one distro...
[01:06] <btcbuy314> slackware, gentoo, arch    all of the do it yourself linuxs will basically force you to learn linux
[01:06] <john515> however I'm facing a bizzare error
[01:07] <ashka> I guess it means you're on #ubuntu channel, a channel related to ubuntu
[01:07] <john515> when I delete and recreate an account
[01:07] <^John^> DIY.
[01:07] <btcbuy314> arch is pretty simple though i think it would be easier for someone that doesnt have any linux knowledge to use arch
[01:07] <john515> I still get IMAP error on two specific accounts
[01:07] <john515> if I ask the users to make another account it functions properly
[01:07] <john515> I'm not sure how to unstuck the account from dovecot
[01:08] <caixa> just get ubuntu mini remix, same as arch except much easier to install
[01:08] <john515> it sure might delete it from the system, but not remove every trace of it
[01:08] <W4sp> excervo: You would need to be a bit more specific.
[01:08] <bazhang> btcbuy314, got an actual support question?
[01:09] <btcbuy314> another tip that i feel is one of the best things i ever did, is download a tiling window manager, such as awesome,  you will never go back to a floating windows like gnome and windows
[01:09] <Megas> Jordan_U: still there?
[01:09] <john515> W4sp any suggestions?
[01:09] <bazhang> btcbuy314, take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[01:10]  * W4sp .oO how right btcbuy314 is...
[01:10] <^John^> Hostile...
[01:10] <btcbuy314> not as many people are in ubuntu offtopic and i want people to know this
[01:11] <john515> guess nobody can help me with dovecot :/
[01:11] <L3top> This is an ubuntu support channel. What you want is not particularly relevant. This is not a place for you to vent your feelings and beliefs.
[01:15] <W4sp> john515: When you ask how to remove accounts in this channel noone would assume you have issues surrounding dovecot.
[01:15] <john515> I know
[01:15] <john515> it's a bizzare issue
[01:16] <W4sp> john515: How to you store account information for the users?
[01:16] <john515> I don't know how to explain it
[01:16] <john515> let me elaborate
[01:16] <siema> siema
[01:16] <Megas> Is possible to convert a gpt to gnu?
[01:16] <john515> I've set up the mailserver with the mail-stack-delivery package
[01:16] <bazhang> !pl | siema
[01:16] <john515> prior to that, I tried to make it manually with postfix-dovecot
[01:16] <john515> so far so good
[01:17] <john515> I made a script with php and .sh
[01:17] <john515> to register users
[01:17] <bazhang> !enter | john515
[01:17] <john515> directly to the system with /bin/false
[01:18] <Megas> Jordan_U: still there?
[01:18] <john515> however I forgot to include in my php to convert them to lowercase, so when a user made an account with uppercase letter, roundcube couldn't send (because it sends to lowercase emails by default)
[01:18] <W4sp> john515: Sorry to interrupt you. There is good information surrounding the dovecot and tools are available.
[01:18] <john515> when I figured that
[01:18] <Megas> Uff..my netbook will never see ubuntu again
[01:18] <Megas> Im stuck in chromeOS
[01:18] <john515> I tried to switch those two accounts by renaming the userdir
[01:18] <Megas> I will use it like a miniskirt
[01:18] <Megas> ._.
[01:18] <john515> (obviously a bad idea)
[01:19] <john515> ever since then, no matter how many times I recreate those two specific accounts, I always get an IMAP connection error
[01:19] <john515> what I'm asking is how to remove every trace of those two accounts, if possible
[01:19] <randomDude1> need more enter keys
[01:20] <john515> I've already ran through the dovecot documentation, I just screwed something up :/
[01:20] <randomDude1> john515: gui or command line method?
[01:20] <john515> everything through putty
[01:20] <randomDude1> john515: help with dovecot is a ubuntu-server question.
[01:20] <W4sp> john515: If you create your own scripts to pass the information from your PHP to shell scripts you need to know where you store the information.
[01:21] <john515> W4sp: it's done via useradd
[01:21] <john515> users have /maildir
[01:22] <W4sp> john515: john515 In that case deluser should be sufficient. You may need to enfoce to remove the maildir or do it by hand. Do you have SQL to store the user info?
[01:22] <john515> I'm two days in trying to figure the solutions for those problems, irc was my last resort
[01:22] <john515> nope
[01:23] <john515> when I remove users I do userdel and I remove their directory from /home, normally
[01:23] <john515> and that works
[01:23] <john515> but for some odd reason, two specific usernames just don't want to login (IMAP Connection error)
[01:23] <john515> T_T
[01:23] <john515> I've deleted them again and again, no access
[01:24] <john515> *sigh*
[01:24] <dank8465> hey all, I'm having a fun issue, I'm not sure if it's hardware or software related... basically, after some amount of time, my computer will become unresponsive. I would then drop (myself) into a tty to see what happened, and upon logging in to the tty, my screen would flood with I/O errors regarding /dev/sda (my main hard drive, if that isn't painfully obvious) I've ran disk utility, and it seems that my HD is functioning normally.
[01:24] <dank8465> I will produce logs relevant logs momentarily...
[01:24] <W4sp> john515: What I meant was the odd /var/spool/mail and such.
[01:25] <john515> hm
[01:25] <john515> now that I think of it
[01:25] <john515> another bit of info
[01:25] <DanS> Hey all
[01:25] <L3top> !enter | john515
[01:25] <Kevin`> how do you tell ubuntu on arm/omap to rebuild the u-boot configuration and such?
[01:25] <Skazzy> Hi everybody
[01:26] <L3top> dank8465: sounds like your drive is dying or you have a dodgy cable.
[01:26] <john515> upon checking my /var/log/mail.log , ever since my php script had the lowercase conversion for the usernames. in the mail, all the logins were somehow attempted with the first letter in upper case
[01:26] <john515> knowing unix, the logins are case sensitive, right?
[01:26] <W4sp> john515: It you don't use SQL, do you store the user inof in /etc/passwd? There are other methods as well. Also, see
[01:26] <john515> yes /etc/passwd
[01:27] <dank8465> L3top: I hope not, i've got work to do! gimme another minute... trying to find the right chunk of dmesg
[01:27] <Kevin`> alternately, how do I list the triggers that are run when installing a kernel?
[01:27] <L3top> john515: logins should really all be lower case
[01:27] <W4sp> Yes, john515
[01:27] <Kevin`> or anything that would let me find what the command is called
[01:27] <DSSA> I have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,
[01:27] <DSSA> but not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?
[01:27] <zykotick9> L3top: i "believe" they have to be lower case actually...
[01:27] <dank8465> L3top: also, wouldn't I be unable to boot under those circumstances, I'm running fine on the setup right now, but ittle go nuts in a few minutes...
[01:28] <john515> why does it try to login with John instead of john, for example, then?
[01:28] <L3top> zykotick9: that was a better way to state it. I could certainly be wrong, but that was my understanding.
[01:28] <W4sp> john515: If you find them in /var/spool/mail with upper case i would assume their other dirs are the same.
[01:28] <DSSA> I've tried searching for a solution via google, but all of the results are for reading crashed windows drives with Ubuntu, not the other way around.
[01:29] <L3top> dank8465: not in a great number of circumstances... for instance an issue exasserbated by heat...
[01:29] <DSSA> I seem to remember years ago running an older version of Ubuntu that crashed, I was able to read the drive with the windows computer and just transfer the files that I wanted to keep.
[01:29] <W4sp> john515: Not sure if I get this one right. If you have user 'John' in /etc/passwd but you try to authorize as john it will fail.
[01:29] <DSSA> Any help would be appreciated.
[01:29] <john515>  W4sp: /var/spool/mail is empty
[01:29] <DanS> Hey all, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I've got a POS till here which I'm trying to write my own stuff for.  I tried to install Ubuntu on it in a few ways yesterday to no avail. I tried Linux Mint too which was a little more successful, but it still didn't really come close to installing with it being far too intensive for the machine.  Is there a way of checking which flavour of linux they were using while its running?
[01:30] <L3top> dank8465: Really need to do diagnostics on the drive... but before doing ANYTHING I would backup anything precious to me.
[01:30] <DanS> It does come up with knoppix 2.78 in the boot sequence.. but I'm not sure if it's a modded version of that or what...
[01:30] <W4sp> john515: Do you have /var/vmail/... ?
[01:31] <dank8465> L3top: yeah, i'm all backed up
[01:31] <john515> W4sp: also, those two notorious usernames, when freshly register - they are all lowercase, but when my user tries to login with roundcube - mail.log says he tries to log with first letter uppercase
[01:31] <john515> W4sp: no such directory
[01:31] <SmileyChris> Interesting, my close / minimize / etc buttons have shifted to the right without any input on my part... how do I put them back on the left?
[01:31] <btcbuy314> yep sorry for being offtopic, nobody was answering me in #calculus    and i figured somebody here probably has one
[01:32] <W4sp> john515: Does your /etc/passwd contain the login id in lower cae but their home dir in Upper?
[01:32] <SmileyChris> I tried switching themes then back again, no change (and no change on restart)
[01:32] <john515> W4sp: both lowercase, completelly
[01:32] <dank8465> @L3top: can you recommend any diagnostics to run, I can't seem to find the log...
[01:33] <Zero> Hello everyone.
[01:33] <dank8465> L3top: errors come somewhere to the effect of: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector XXXXXX
[01:33] <W4sp> john515: Did you get the info from faillog?
[01:33] <john515> W4sp: any clue where I can locate it?
[01:33] <dank8465> L3top: which I know seems to be a bad sector
[01:33] <qmr> is there any way to make laptop speakers louder?
[01:34] <W4sp> john515:  /var/log ?
[01:35] <john515> it's filled with "@"
[01:35] <qmr> nm, found an override
[01:35] <W4sp> john515: john515 use faillog -a to get an idea.
[01:36] <john515> I see a bunch of usernames, zero failures everywhere, and some dates
[01:36] <W4sp> john515: describe 'a bunch'. YOu said you have to specific users. Are theose among them?
[01:37] <john515> one of them is
[01:37] <dank8465> L3top: can you recommend any diagnostics to run, I can't seem to find the log...
[01:37] <john515> the other one is currently deleted, I'm planning to have the other user re-register once I fix the issue with the other one
[01:37] <MCl0vin> when i boot i get this http://imagebin.org/223997
[01:39] <W4sp> john515: Now I am curious. How have you been able to remove one but not the other? Has one of them been created prior changes in your .sh?
[01:39] <SmileyChris> anyway, solved it with some basic google and gconf-editor. No idea how it happened though :/
[01:39] <john515> W4sp: you haven't got me right :P
[01:40] <DSSA>  I have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,
[01:40] <DSSA> but not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?
[01:40] <john515> W4sp: both of these usernames face the same error, regardless if I useradd or userdel them - but currently I'm trying to fix the first username, and then apply the solution to the second one as well
[01:41] <W4sp> john515: OK, understand.
[01:41] <MCl0vin> when i boot i get this http://imagebin.org/223997
[01:41] <john515> Therefore I won't useradd the second username as of yet
[01:42] <john515> W4sp: might it be possible that dovecot has some sort of cache that I have to remove? Or maybe some entries I saw in the shadow file
[01:43] <john515> I tried messing with them, with no positive result, however
[01:43] <W4sp> john515: On a second thought. The home directories are not neccessary the directories userdel removes. Thois depends on dovecot's configuration. All of this userdel/deluser does not know about it.
[01:44] <john515> W4sp: this is true, even userdel doesn't remove the homedir, I do it by hand with rm -r
[01:44] <newbchessplayer_> is there a way to make ubuntu turn the system volume up to the max at a specified time? my purpose is to make an alarm clock that will work no matter what my friend does to my pc
[01:44] <john515> W4sp: however dovecot will check if a case sensitive homedir exists, to deliver the mail
[01:45] <joejack> made some changes to comwiz and how all I have is my desktop picture and the cursor but no mouse clicks
[01:45] <john515> What I am not sure of, is why it insists trying to log with those old usernames, instead of the new ones
[01:46] <john515> I also might've done a stupidity, because at first I tried to rename the homedir and usermod the name to lowercase - so I might whacked it up
[01:46] <joejack> anyone want to help me get out of this dilema?
[01:46] <W4sp> john515: How to the user quthorize? Just PLAIN or is there further encryption involved? Not referring to SSL as I don't think that would have anything to do with it. But things like MD5 would.
[01:47] <john515> plain
[01:47] <john515> log says plain, afaik
[01:47] <W4sp> john515: We can rule out any flaws with hash.
[01:47] <bonhoeffer> doesn't make install put the binaries in the right directory?
[01:48] <john515> dunno if this can give you a cue, but I could log with his username/pass, but he would still get an IMAP error, on that specific username
[01:48] <john515> how is that possible?
[01:48] <john515> -just tested that now-
[01:48] <joejack> I set the top;edge setting and left edge and right edge all to zero, and now all I am left with is the cursor, and my destop picture and mouse clicks do nothing
[01:49] <W4sp> john515: Sorry, are you saying that you can login but you cannot authorize during the IMAP process?
[01:49] <john515> I can authorize locally but not remotelly
[01:50] <W4sp> john515: That's great. Where do they land up as I wonder what /etc/passwd has as a home dir and what dovecot's configuration for their IMAP folder has?
[01:50] <john515> eg from my home network, that username might be able to login into the webmail - but when my user tries from across town, he'll get an imap error
[01:50] <joejack> anyone want to help. I used the setting tool with the wrench symbol to set grid for left right and top edge to zero. Now al I have is the desktop backdrop picture and the mouse pointer
[01:51] <john515> The passwd entry -> USER:x:1004:100::/home/USER:/bin/false
[01:51] <john515> (I blanked it out, it's in lowercase)
[01:52] <john515> mail_location = maildir:/home/%u/Maildir
[01:53] <W4sp> john515: Did you read through this one.. http://master.wiki2.dovecot.org/Debugging/Authentication?
[01:54] <joejack> can anyone healp
[01:54] <john515> W4sp: you mean on how I can crypt passwords?
[01:54] <john515> I'm a bit lost here
[01:55] <joejack> nobody can help?
[01:56] <MCl0vin> http://imagebin.org/224007 can someone please help me
[01:56] <W4sp> john515: It could be used to check authentication errors.
[01:58] <john515> lemme check
[01:58] <joejack> unity broke after changing some compiz settings. can someone help me get out of this?
[01:58] <W4sp> john515: Anyway, I need to pause on this one. There seems to be no IRC for dovecot. :-(
[02:00] <john515> : /
[02:01] <john515> recent mail still shows the user trying to log as User and not user
[02:01] <john515> mail.log*
[02:01] <john515> I honestly have no idea either, but thanks for sticking with me ;)
[02:02] <W4sp> john515: I also have another idea, slightly slippy though. You said that 'locally' they can authorize, from accross town they can't. Do you know their passwords? Do they move arround with theyr own laptops or do they use web based services with differnt systems?
[02:03] <john515> well, the basic idea is done through website
[02:03] <john515> aka the mail is primarilly transfered through roundcube
[02:04] <john515> about the password, I userdel-ed the account, and we set it up with a dummy password with troubleshooting
[02:04] <john515> I could login to that username from my laptop at home, but the other user could not, from his pc from across town
[02:05] <W4sp> john515: roundcube is nothing I can help, I'm afraid. If they connect through LAN do they use roundcube as well? Also, is it locally SSL'ed?
[02:06] <john515> I assume everything on lan can access those two accounts
[02:06] <john515> shall I try to tether my android and see if I can do it with a remote connection?
[02:07] <john515> when I log in, it's user - when he logs in, it's User.. lmao
[02:08] <john515> purging dovecot didn't help either, btw
[02:08] <l3d> was wondering how I would go about cleaning the grub menu list?
[02:09] <W4sp> john515: I can't tell then, I also think we can rule out any cache issues as it is SSL, isn't it? You didnt' anser that one. Did you also try telnet?
[02:09] <newbchessplayer_> what command turns ubuntu volume to the MAX
[02:09] <john515> telnet?
[02:09] <john515> hmm
[02:10] <john515> what can I do , elaborate please :P
[02:11] <john515> regarding SSL , dovecot.conf contains some SSL lines, I think mail-stack-delivery implements SSL for postfix too
[02:11] <john515> I do remember that I had to input information for certificates
[02:11] <W4sp> telnet dovecotbox 110 then you will see how the system responds.
[02:12] <john515> +OK dovecot ready
[02:13] <brophat> ok I made some changes to compiz, now ubuntu is crashed but ubuntu 2D works
[02:14] <W4sp> john515: I need to go. Re telnet just authorize yourself as it is PLAIN. That should work. Then see what the log file says. It it is lowe case if may even be roundcube passing wrong info? Likely thoguh it is dovecot.
[02:14] <brophat> anyone want to help me get ubuntu back? and what is the diff between ubuntu 2D and just ubuntu
[02:14] <john515> W4sp: he tried to login and I grabbed the debug, can I pm you with it before you go?
[02:14] <DebolazW> brophat: Ubuntu2D doesn't use compiz.
[02:14] <OerHeks> newbchessplayer_, "amixer -c 0 sset Master,100 %"
[02:14] <brophat> DebolazW should I just keep using Ubuntu2D, ?
[02:15] <brophat> DebolazW how to I get ubuntu back
[02:15] <DebolazW> brophat: There's nothing wrong with using Unity2D if it works, but how to fix compiz depends on what exactly you did with compiz.
[02:15] <W4sp> john515: I would not feel comfortable with it as it may contain sensitive information.
[02:15] <newbchessplayer_> OerHeks, thanks very much! though, are you sure that doesn't have at least a few typos?
[02:15] <brophat> DebolazW I set top edge left edge and right edge to 0 in the grid setting
[02:16] <john515> I will sensor it ofc :P
[02:16] <john515> it's dummy info btw
[02:16] <DebolazW> brophat: In ccsm?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> brophat no biggie easy fix to set stock. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[02:17] <Derpian> hey guys any idea how to create a large file for upload testing
[02:17] <Derpian> about 163 mb
[02:17] <pooltable> help how do i block anything do with south park thanks ?
[02:17] <brophat> DebolazW in cofiguration editor
[02:17] <DebolazW> brophat: Which configuration editor?
[02:17] <brophat> can i got into it while in ubuntu2D and reset it?
[02:18] <OerHeks> newbchessplayer_, amixer -c 0 set Master playback 100% unmute ( see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/amixer.1.html )
[02:18] <brophat> Debolazw taht is the name of it configuration edititor. its icon is the screw driver and the wrench
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> brophat, set it stock and find one of the hundred blogs on setting up compiz, it is easy you just need to do it right and have a restsrt schema for compiz.
[02:20] <pibarnas> DebolazW:
[02:20] <brophat> wilee-nilee I have nothing when I am in ubuntu can I do that reset thing while in ubuntu2D?
[02:20] <DebolazW> brophat: This solution should still apply then: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71926/resetting-compizconfig-settings-manager-settings
[02:20] <DebolazW> Scroll down till you find "Reset Compiz"
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> brophat I believe so.
[02:21] <brophat> ok will give it a whirl. geeeeeeeeez I break the machine just by trying to set some eye candy
[02:22] <DebolazW> brophat: You really shouldn't be using that tool unless you know exactly what you are doing.
[02:22] <DebolazW> brophat: Whoever recommended its use should be smacked in the head.
[02:22] <brophat> DebolazW I believe so
[02:22] <brophat> DebolazW but it has such a pretty icon looks like it would be user friendly
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> brophat, I assume you did a restart and checked if the 3d desktop was still broken, compiz does not always reneder changes well and needs a restart, I use the compiz fusion icon as a button to do a restart.
[02:23] <DebolazW> brophat: If you want to customize Unity in the future, install MyUnity and use that tool. It's a lot safer.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> render*
[02:23] <brophat> DebolazW I am writing that down will do
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> compiz can be tweaked if done with some knowledge of how it works and looking at the info on the web on setting it up custom, you just need a restart buton, and then save the script of the setup when done, for future quick installs of those settings. I have the same script since natty or so.
[02:28] <DSSA>  I have a computer that I was using as a file server running Ubuntu 10.04.  The system crashed today giving me a "Kernal Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)" error message every time at startup.  I've removed the drive, and have it in a portable hard drive reader.  However, when I open the drive with a windows computer, it shows the disk as being almost full,
[02:28] <DSSA> but not showing me any files.  Is there a way to read the drive to at least pull some of the files off of it?
[02:29] <DebolazW> wilee-nilee: "some knowledge" being the important words there. :)
[02:29] <Spazio> guys can anyone please recommend a file manager similar to xyplorer on windows or anyway that shows folder sizes? thanks :)
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> DSSA, windows wont read the filesystem, do you have a actual read of it, using a install of a driver to read it?
[02:30] <Weird98GuY> (if possible) how do i set the close/minimize/maximize buttons to be on  the right side of the windows?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> Debolaz, yeah, it takes a bit to figure it out.
[02:31] <DebolazW> wilee-nilee: And the process will most likely involve wrecking your desktop a few times.
[02:31] <DebolazW> The only reason I even touch any compiz settings is to make my windows automaximize.
[02:31] <DSSA> wilee-nilee, I don't have anything other than another windows computer right now.  If I re-install it back in the Ubuntu box and run the LiveCD, would that allow me read the existing files?
[02:32] <brophat> wilee-nilee it seems to have worked but it is still doing stuff and I am getting a lot of warnings and errors in the terminal
[02:32] <DSSA> The files I'm looking to get back off of it are windows files that I was using the Ubuntu box to file serve
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> Debolaz, great thing is there are a ton of links on the web for help.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> DSSA, Yes, if it is readable that is the best way.
[02:32] <Weird98GuY> (if possible) how do i set the close/minimize/maximize buttons to be on  the right side of the windows?
[02:33] <DSSA> wilee-nilee, I'll give that a shot--downloading the LiveCD now.  Thank you for your input, sir!
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> DSSA, Any live linux disc will read it basically generaly.
[02:33] <brophat> wilee-nilee think I should just control C it?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> brophat, not sure what that does.
[02:33] <Weird98GuY> anyone?
[02:34] <brophat> well I did that reset command and it is now stuck doing stuff that just fails
[02:34] <brophat> cntrl C i think stops the programs that are runnning
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> Weird98GuY, I use ubuntu tweak but I think dconf-editor might do it.
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> brophat, you need compiz to run to get unity it is a plugin in compiz
[02:35] <Weird98GuY> im a complete noob on ubuntu (sorry) how do i use that?
[02:35] <DebolazW> Weird98GuY: I would recommend getting used to having the buttons on the left side. Its more convenient once you get used to it.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Weird98GuY, I suggested two possiblities ubuntu tweak is a third party tool look on the web, dconf-editor is in the repos, not sure with it.
[02:36] <esolyt> how can use ubuntu in a way that i can get the latest software via repos?
[02:36] <Weird98GuY> nah ill try getting used to it
[02:36] <brophat> wilee-nilee ok I cntrl C'd it and stopped it and everything looks good
[02:36] <Weird98GuY> less work (w00t laziness)
[02:36] <Weird98GuY> thanks anyways guys
[02:36] <brophat> geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez another experience brought to me by linux bwahahaha
[02:36] <Draugauth> Any idea why typing would be laggy on a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> esolyt, use the latest release 12.04
[02:37] <esolyt> what about a software that releases an update every month?
[02:37] <timaaarrreee> who here likes wpa_supplicant?
[02:37] <esolyt> do i have to be 6 months behind
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> esolyt, you are subject to the process of venting stuff in the repos to a update to be put there for use.
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> vetting*
[02:39] <Draugauth> Any idea why typing would be laggy on a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[02:39] <halfalife> No, sorry Draugauth.
[02:39] <halfalife> Try googling it?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> esolyt, you can install what you want, but always be backed up if you are going to go out of the repos in case you brick the setup.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> back up anyway really
[02:40] <Draugauth> halfalife:  guess I am going to have to.   Trying to get networking setup but for some reason the system is being stupid.  IE after Samba is installed and I try to browse the workgroup TheRepublic it comes back saying Unable to mount location
[02:40] <halfalife> Well, I can help with trying to figure  it out.
[02:40] <halfalife> Not exactly busy right now.
[02:40] <reasearcher123> why my browser fails to open www.tatasky.com?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Draugauth, have you looked to see if the chip or ram is running high for whatever reason.
[02:41] <Draugauth> wilee-nilee:  Is there an app in ubuntu I can use to check that or do I need to go into the BIOS?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Draugauth, I would install htop, you can shutdown stuff with it, if something is stuck open, and see what is running.  sudo apt-get install htop    then run htop from the terminal.
[02:42] <L3top> we support Atari 2600, 5200, 7800, Intellivision, ColecoVision, Sega Master System, NES, TurboGrafx-16, SuperGrafx, Super NES, Sega Genesis, GCE Vectrex, and of course, MAME. officially.
[02:42] <L3top> wrong chan sorry
[02:43] <Draugauth> wilee-nilee: cpu core 1 <1% cpu core 2 <2% mem 515MB
[02:44] <halfalife> Well, it's not an issue with processing power, then.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Draugauth, what is your chip speed and ram amount?
[02:45] <Draugauth> wilee-nilee: Intel Core 2 Duo X6800 running at stock 2.93Ghz and 8GB of ram (well 7985MB according to htop)
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> Draugauth, seemed like you had enough, is it a bluetooth keyboard, or a laptop?
[02:46] <Draugauth> wilee-nilee: Logitech keyboard/mouse combo using a unified reciever (think it's BT)
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Draugauth, I would look on the web with that keyboard setup I bet that is where the problem is as far as working with ubuntu, I have not seen any complaints in general, but it seems a place to look.
[02:48] <Draugauth> wilee-nilee:  Ok will do.   Ubuntu 12.04 LTS has been more problematic than the last version I used ;(
[02:50] <uhaish> HELLO ALL
[02:50] <halfalife> Hello.
[02:50] <halfalife> Need help, or just chillin'?
[02:52] <DSSA> Anyone have any suggestions as to which version of Ubuntu I might want to upgrade to from 10.04 that's pretty simplistic and stable?
[02:52] <brophat> DebolazW you know how to use MyUnity to stop unity from maximizing window when it is dragged to the top?
[02:52] <uhaish> just chilling
[02:52] <DSSA> The only real thing I do with the box is use it as a file server for mainly quickbooks
[02:52] <uhaish> and raging about how bad ktorrent is
[02:52] <DebolazW> brophat: I don't really customize my desktop much, so I'm probably not the right person to ask.
[02:52] <uhaish> haha your name reminds me of how much i want episode 3 to come out
[02:53] <brophat> DebolazW you are ok with that annoying maximizing of windows when they are dragged to the top?
[02:53] <DebolazW> brophat: I prefer my windows maximized. :)
[02:53] <DebolazW> That is a personal taste though.
[02:53] <brophat> ok then I guess you are :)
[02:54] <DarkAceZ> wilee-nilee, I saw that link, but you weren't here then :P
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, did it work?
[02:54] <DarkAceZ> So, I'm supposed to be executing those commands on a terminal on try Ubuntu?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, yeah from a live ubuntu cd
[02:56] <subterfuge> I messed up my display while trying to enable HDMI on my ubuntu 12.04 system.  now I have duplicate tool bars top and bottom.  I'm not well versed in how to describe the issue everything worked before I started messing with it.  Any ideas where to start to get back
[02:57] <Guest46798> t
[02:57] <Guest46798> Why can't i change my name?
[02:57] <Guest46798> i'm using crunchbang
[02:57] <brophat> DebolazW and wilee-nilee ok looks like I am back to normal, thanks for the help
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> brophat, cool. ;)
[02:58] <subterfuge> I'm using NVIDIA X Server Settings
[02:58] <Guest71459> cool
[02:58] <Guest71459> test
[02:58] <andrewh192> hey, what's the easiest way to update a BIOS if i am running ubuntu?
[02:59] <Guest71459> exit
[02:59] <DarkAceZ> /exit
[02:59] <DarkAceZ> /quit
[03:00] <Guest71459> i use the irssi in the terminal, how to read the help msg?
[03:00] <Guest71459> anybody?
[03:01] <VeraMono> ok how do i tell ubuntu server to not hold back on installing kern updates?
[03:04] <Guest46798> @veralMono you can deselect offcial ubuntu updats
[03:04] <VeraMono> reallly
[03:04] <VeraMono> hmm
[03:04] <aartist> I have some pictures, in my shotwell, and it seems that my directory doesn't have those pictures.. and It keep saying 'Updating library'.  How I can resolve this?, I do need those pictures in shotwell.
[03:04] <Guest46798> or just install Debian
[03:05] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee: mount: mount point /mnt/dev is not a directory mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts is not a directory mount: mount point /mnt/sys is not a directory
[03:05] <john515> Does anyone know why IRCServices (za net) do not force nick change, if a (static ip) host has authorized a nick at least once? been trying to work it around on my server
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, That script is from the grub wiki.
[03:05] <john515> am I missing a config option?
[03:06] <DarkAceZ> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136674/ second command
[03:06] <DarkAceZ> (third line)
[03:07] <DarkAceZ> ooooooh
[03:07] <DarkAceZ> I know what happened xD
[03:07] <kyobad> hi
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, here is the link, if it is not working I;m not sure why. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[03:09] <kyobad> i need suport some can help me but i speak spanish
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, I believe it is a virtual mount with that particular line.
[03:11] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee: so I don't need boot-repair for this?
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, my link does not render that line correct use the link.
[03:12] <AceLaptop> okay
[03:12] <dwakar> how can i run a different window manager session within the current session without logging out and again logging back in
[03:12] <kyobad> alguien habla español
[03:12] <dwakar> i'm using qtile and every time i update the config file i have to logout
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, my pastebin that is use the wiki you will see the same commands except for the added partition numbers, etc and the purge and reinstall.  THe bootrepair does not instal grub you are missing it.
[03:15] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee, same error using the line from that link
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, I would crtl d to unmount and try again, check in gparted to see if the sda1 is unmounted before trying again
[03:17] <Spazio> guys can anyone please recommend a file manager for ubuntu 12.04 similar to xyplorer on windows or anyway one that shows folder sizes? thanks :)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, It was strange that grub was completely gone, there may be more problems then just a missing grub set up it is hard for me to say.
[03:18] <jrib> Spazio: doesn't nautilus show file sizes?
[03:19] <Spazio> no jrib i don't think so but i am using ubuntu as of just few hours :)
[03:19] <nigweth> try Gnome Commander
[03:19] <jrib> Spazio: well where do you want it to display the file size?
[03:19] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee: you want my drive to be unmounted?
[03:19] <AceLaptop> because the first line says to mount it...
[03:20] <Spazio> well i would like a file manager like xyplore which i use in windows...it has a column with folder sizes and updates automatically
[03:20] <Spazio> thanks nigweth i will try that too
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, the partition sda1, was the only thing that should of been mounted.
[03:21] <jrib> Spazio: go to view -> list  in nautilus
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, I'm suggesting you unmount then try again using that partitcular command from the wiki.
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> particular*
[03:22] <AceLaptop> okay
[03:22] <Spazio> jrib it tells me: 1 item, 10 items under the size column
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, Every time I have needed to chroot in which is what you are doing to run the purge and reinstall and load the mbr it has worked for me, so beyongd that I'm not sure
[03:23] <AceLaptop> Failed to eject medium; one or more volumes on the medium are busy.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, from the ctrl d or gparted?
[03:24] <AceLaptop> no commands are currently running in the terminal...
[03:24] <AceLaptop> from nautilus
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, did you try crtl d?
[03:25] <AceLaptop> on what? That seems to show desktop.
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, did you close the terminal since the last error?
[03:25] <AceLaptop> yeah
[03:25] <reasearcher123> Can some one help? All sites open except a few  like facebook, tatasky, way2sms etc. I tried firefox and Google chrome both
[03:26] <AceLaptop> CTRL-D actaully closed the terminal, my bad
[03:26] <jrib> reasearcher123: if they don't open, what do they do?
[03:26] <reasearcher123> jrib: it simply wait indefinitely trying to open
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, ah you have to carefully follow what I write no biggie, so reboot to the disc again, follow my script and sub that one line from the wiki, and try again following my script otherwise.
[03:27] <AceLaptop> okies
[03:27] <jrib> reasearcher123: can you access the sites with a different device using the same network?
[03:27] <datacide> I am trying to copy a file onto a usb stick, but for whatever reason, my file manager only copies part of the file and not the whole darn thing despite several attempts
[03:28] <reasearcher123> jrib: never tried.how do i do that
[03:28] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee: would it be a good idea to just pull the drive out?
[03:29] <jrib> Spazio: if you want the actual size in bytes, that's something that would have to be calculated.  Maybe you can add it with an extension
[03:29] <Seven_Six_Two> my roommate pays half of my internet, but keeps giving ap key to his friends and won't stop. I'd like to change my ap bssid and create a filtered ap with a spare wireless nic. I want to log and maybe rickroll  ;)  Is there a fairly easy solution? I'm not a newb and don't need handholding, just wondering if there's a project that does it already.
[03:30] <miroslav_> he can someone help me, i have a problem with gnome shell on ubuntu 12.04, after suspend my (laptop) have a display problem
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, that wont matter really, whwn you redoing the process look at the wiki and just copy and paste the commands form there put the sda1 in where the nount is put the sda where it is just refrence the script to find the correct commands they are in one after another in the script, this will make sure there is no incorrect rendering in the script.Jusat go slow and take your time.
[03:30] <Seven_Six_Two> Even software that does the equivalent of firesheep, but only on connections to my desktop's ap.
[03:30] <n2diy> Recently upgraded from 10.xx LTS to 12.04 LTS, and no more youtube or facebook videos!? Restricted Extras and Adobe Installer are installed, what gives?
[03:31] <mafiaboy> miroslav_: same prob here
[03:31] <Draugauth> Sever_Six_Two:  The Asus routers can create "guest" networks.   Get one of those and setup a "guest" network for him to use.  Think you can even restrict the amount of bandwidth.  Other option is MAC filtering.  Then even if they get the WPA/WEP password they would have to figure out the MAC ;)
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, put the purge and reinstal in where it is in refrence to the script while copying and pasting from the wiki, does this make sense?
[03:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Draugauth, I have a wrt with tomato firmware because I need mlppp for bonded connections
[03:33] <Toph2> i just purchased a Neatgear router with 'guest' networking
[03:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Draugauth, but I'll check it out. thanks
[03:33] <AceLaptop> wilee-nilee: only sorta... :P
[03:33] <AceLaptop> I'm so new to this.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, sorta does not work, lets just go pm I will give you each command for you to copy and paste.
[03:34] <AceLaptop> Am I following the wiki one or the paste one or both? (And if both, just replacing that one lin-- thanks!
[03:35] <ajax11124> Does anyone know how I would setup this aaio library for C++ to work with codelite IDE? http://aaio.sourceforge.net/
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> AceLaptop, cool I'm just concerned that any other line didi not render correctly is all.
[03:36] <jrib> Spazio: if you just want to analyze how much space different directories consume, baobab (Disk Usage Analyzer in the menu) is a good tool
[03:37] <Gr3mlin> hay all is there an ubuntu server channel or can i ask someone in here?
[03:37] <Spazio> baobab?ok thanks jrib cause gnome commander doesn't seem to do that either
[03:37] <jrib> Spazio: yes, it isn't really a file manager.  It's meant to let you analyze what is using up your disk space
[03:38] <Skazzy> Anybody know a good GUI/frontend for GPG that will work with ubuntu?
[03:38] <jrib> Skazzy: seahorse?
[03:38] <jrib> Gr3mlin: you can ask here.  There's also #ubuntu-server
[03:38] <Skazzy> I haven't checked that out yet, I'll look it up... thanks jrib
[03:38] <Maccer> Can some one explain the logic behind ubuntu trimming old packages from newer versions?  I need a x86-64 libgtk1.2, but that's no longer supported for ubuntu 12.04
[03:38] <Gr3mlin> thanks jrib  :) its a strange question not sure how to word it either.
[03:38] <agentgasmask> Skazzy: seahorse is good for key management. I think it is default.
[03:39] <jrib> Maccer: probably because gtk1 is dead :x
[03:39] <Skazzy> Noob question: Seahorse will let me encrypt/decrypt messages, yes? :)
[03:39] <Doomhammer> can anyone point me in the direction of how to boot the ubuntu install cd in EFI mode from a USB stick?
[03:40] <lkthomas> guy, I got ssh respawning too fast, stopped
[03:40] <Maccer> jrib:  So the f... what... I need it for old linux applications.  Linux isn't very friendly with old applications, is it?
[03:40] <lkthomas> any idea how to restart ssh service ?
[03:40] <killer04> anyone know where to go to get some help with wireless drivers?
[03:40] <jrib> Maccer: what application?
[03:40] <agentgasmask> Skazzy: As far as I know, it just manages the keys (creation/import/export).
[03:40] <xubuntu_> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[03:40] <xubuntu_> soy nuevo con mi xubuntu
[03:40] <n2diy> Recently upgraded from 10.xx LTS to 12.04 LTS, and no more youtube or facebook videos!? Restricted Extras and Adobe Installer are installed, what gives?
[03:40] <agentgasmask> Skazzy: so, no.
[03:41] <L3top> Maccer: typically... incompatibility with newer packages.
[03:41] <n2diy> Did they really screw this up big time?
[03:41] <jrib> !es | xubuntu_
[03:41] <Spazio> thanks jrib..they call it: disk usage analyzer now :)
[03:41] <Maccer> jrib: epsxe
[03:41] <jrib> !flash | n2diy
[03:41] <Skazzy> I was looking for a way to encrypt/decrypt messages using the Ubuntu LiveCD. Is that possible? I can't get the command line GPG to work so I thought maybe a GUI would be more suited for me... but maybe I'm trying to do something that can't be done
[03:41] <Maccer> I've installed ia32-libs, extracted the 32-bit .deb, and placed them in /usr/lib32, but it still tries to read from /usr/lib
[03:42] <jrib> Maccer: what do you mean by "extracted the 32-bit .deb and placed..."?
[03:42] <jrib> Skazzy: yes, seahorse should be on there by default
[03:43] <Skazzy> Right on. I've been going batty trying to find a way to do this. Thank you for your suggestions, I will go forth with this information and try to make it work for me :D
[03:43] <L3top> Maccer: worst case scenario you make symlinks from /usr/lib to /usr/lib32... but I also want to know what you meant by extracted the 32-bit deb
[03:43] <agentgasmask> Skazzy: I beleve gpg -ea /path/to/file works. Let me see how to specify the recipiant.
[03:44] <Skazzy> Okay.
[03:44] <Skazzy> Is there a man entry for gpg?
[03:44] <Maccer> L3top:  Yeah but I also have 64-bit versions of libgtk1.2
[03:44] <Maccer> By extraction I mean I did dpkg -X
[03:44] <jrib> Skazzy: yes, and there are tons of tutorials for it on the official page too
[03:44] <L3top> Maccer: why not dpkg -i?
[03:45] <L3top> Maccer: and I am referring to symlinking package locations
[03:45] <L3top> Maccer: sorry, file locations not package
[03:45] <killer04> can anyone help with wireless adapters?
[03:45] <Maccer> L3top: I should have probably said I'm using a 64-bit system.
[03:45] <L3top> !anyone | killer04
[03:45] <jrib> Maccer: there are a few playstation emulators in the repositories.  Have you tried them?
[03:45] <Maccer> And if I did force architecture, it would overwrite the 64-bit libs with 32-bit
[03:46] <Gr3mlin> But, i have ubunut server running on a amd x2, and im using it for a webserver aswell as of course an MC server, but i notice when something when alittle wrong on the server which cranked the CPU usage the server read that it was only using 50% of the server CPU. so assuming minecraft_server.jar is single threaded. i was wondering if there was a nice little ubuntu that i could use to make minecraft_server see one cpu thread but really
[03:46] <sere> anyone know how do get et,q3 to work with 12.4 i believe the oss sound system is no longer use and thats why
[03:46] <Maccer> jrib:  No, even though epsxe isn't well maintained, it's the most fastest, stable, and easiest to use
[03:46] <Maccer> I just need a way to get these 32-bit libs to work along side with my 64-bit ones. ;_;
[03:46] <jrib> Maccer: I'd consider at least trying the ones in the repositories.  They would take less than a minute to install :)
[03:47] <L3top> outside of my paygrade Maccer, I am afraid...
[03:47] <sere> anyone know how do get et,q3 SOUND to work with 12.4 i believe the oss sound system is no longer use and thats why
[03:48] <kevin> can anyone advise me: which is the best way to share files acr0ss two machines that use the same router, they are both ubuntu 12.04
[03:48] <L3top> Maccer: when you get a solution, I would appreciate pinging my nic so I can research it from there.
[03:48] <sere> i get no /dev/dsp
[03:48] <jrib> kevin: ssh/sftp if you want encryption; samba or nfs otherwise
[03:49] <DarkAceZ> wilee-nilee, what time is it for you?
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> darka 8:49 pm
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, ^^
[03:49] <kevin> I do not need encryption. jrib---which is the easier to set up: nfs or samba?
[03:49] <DarkAceZ> hmm, it's 12:00pm here
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, are you in the pm still?
[03:50] <jrib> kevin: probably samba.  I think you can just right click on a folder and select "share" nowadays
[03:50] <sere> 11:50*
[03:50] <Maccer> jrib, L3top: Alright, I'll try and find some solutions.
[03:50] <DarkAceZ> wilee-nilee, am, xD sorry, I'm used to 24 hour
[03:50] <kevin> jrib, I will install samba and try my best. Since I do not have windows at home I was unsure if samba was the best. Thanks for the info
[03:51] <jrib> !samba | kevin
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, I closed the pm open kit when booted in don't do anything yet.
[03:51] <supercom32> If you have 32-bit Lucid install, is there an upgrade path to 12.04 64-bit? or is the only alternative to re-install?
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> it*
[03:52] <DarkAceZ> wilee-nilee, wait what? :P
[03:53] <AceLaptop> I'm back \o/
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceZ, you have been also acelaptop right
[03:53] <AceLaptop> yeah
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[03:54] <FloodBot1> geosn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <VeraMono> my EYES
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[03:54] <geosn> ilttryptophandircconscienchighwaystarbusinessmonkeywaldencboomslikbrowserabandonwareufochickenlegotoolazyleftthumbemiramaxtallwatevermariobrotherchickenshitgreatballsoffitemustiostackoverfloBinsteinunmuseumbreakdancebbobbullzingoydaquengmachinevanhaadcenomarcyketonehasophockydollpplaterzerduperxmenrainmanlivebrazilwingerpromisethemoonsofticeicekeywarratmnetgrisofticeicekeywarratmnetgriecomill
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[03:54] <FloodBot1> geosn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <VeraMono> lol
[03:56] <Maccer> Gee, you guys must have upset some one
[03:56] <DarkAceZ> :P
[03:57] <supercom32> If you have 32-bit Lucid install, is there an upgrade path to 12.04 64-bit? or is the only alternative to re-install?
[03:57] <jrib> supercom32: reinstall
[03:57] <Maccer> I don't think so.  This is a pretty commonly asked question.
[03:57] <supercom32> @jrib: Ah! Ok. Thanks.
[03:58] <DarkAceZ> jrib, better ban nick geosn too, he was here before with a different IP, and spammed in the same way
[03:59] <aleaxet55> Ok i'm having a weird problem
[03:59] <aleaxet55> I plugged in an external mouse
[03:59] <aleaxet55> but it only moves in one diagonal
[03:59] <aleaxet55> clicking and scrolling work fine
[03:59] <jrib> DarkAceZ: ok, thanks
[04:00] <Maccer> What kind of mouse is it?  Model?  USB/PS2?
[04:00] <aleaxet55> Logitech G500, USB
[04:00] <Maccer> Also what do you mean one diagonal?
[04:00] <aleaxet55> works fine with another computer
[04:00] <Maccer> Oh, I have the same mouse as you.  I don't have any problems on this xubuntu installation.
[04:00] <Maccer> Try replugging it.
[04:00] <Maccer> Er... if you haven't that is.
[04:00] <aleaxet55> i mean, it can only go in the bottom left/top right direction
[04:01] <aleaxet55> doesnt move up or down or left and right
[04:01] <Maccer> So did you try?
[04:01] <aleaxet55> yeah
[04:01] <aleaxet55> same thing
[04:01] <aleaxet55> tried diffrent usb ports too
[04:02] <Maccer> Restarting your computer too?  I don't know.  I've had the same mouse as yours work across all linux distros
[04:03] <aleaxet55> yup, restarted
[04:03] <Maccer> I doubt it's a software or driver thing.  Try changing the DPI to something higher or lower perhaps?  See what it does?
[04:03] <aleaxet55> same thing
[04:03] <aleaxet55> did that, same thing
[04:03] <ajax11124> Does anyone know how I would setup this aaio library for C++ so I can use it as an include?
[04:03] <Maccer> Do you have a custom poll rate that you could have changed in setpoint by accident, aleaxet55?
[04:04] <aleaxet55> I don't even know what that means, so.. maybe?
[04:04] <Maccer> You know what setpoint is though, right?
[04:05] <Thanos> ubuntu:   nvidia or amd for new install?   I have an nvidia gt430 and an amd 6670 sitting here.
[04:05] <aleaxet55> no
[04:05] <aleaxet55> aah
[04:05] <aleaxet55> its the logitech software
[04:06] <aleaxet55> No, i don't have setpoint
[04:06] <Maccer> aleaxet55:  Any other input devices you have?  You could try going into what ever ubuntu has for a control panel and play around with the mouse hardware settings.  Turn off acceleration?  I dunno
[04:07] <Maccer> What even happens if you move the other diagonal?
[04:08] <aleaxet55> nothing, it refuses to go that direction.
[04:08] <aleaxet55> can kind of move it left and right with forcefull movement of mouse
[04:08] <Maccer> Try playing around with the mouse/cursor settings in the control panel
[04:08] <Maccer> (In ubuntu)
[04:09] <Maxwell_Smart> Hello
[04:09] <Maccer> o/ Maxwell_Smart
[04:10] <Maxwell_Smart> Want to try out linux on my old computer. Can you install it on a clean hard drive without windows
[04:11] <aleaxet55> Of course
[04:11] <Maxwell_Smart> sweet, thank you
[04:11] <aleaxet55> You can even try it without installing it
[04:11] <Maccer> I don't see how that could possibly be a problem.
[04:11] <armdale> question about changing directory permissions: trying to change a directory's permissions /media/wd1/Music so I can set up an itunes server using forked-daapd
[04:11] <Maxwell_Smart> I am trying that now
[04:11] <armdale> getting this error in the log: scan: Skipping library directory /media/wd1/Music/, could not dereference: Permission denied
[04:12] <armdale> so i suppose i have to change access permissions for others?
[04:12] <armdale> tried chmod 777, didn't change anything
[04:12] <armdale> i'm pretty new to all this
[04:13] <Maccer> Did you try recursively setting the chmod for the folder?  (chmod -r)
[04:13] <armdale> i did. it took a second, like it was doing it. then when i checked with ls -l nothing had changed
[04:14] <armdale> tried sudo as well, didn't change anything
[04:15] <Maccer> I'm unfamiliar with this server software and how it behaves, so I don't know.
[04:16] <armdale> it's more just a question about directory permissions. if i can allow the directory to be readable by all, it should all work
[04:16] <armdale> chmod doesn't seem to be doing anything for some reason
[04:18] <Maccer> I'm assuming /media/wd1 is a device folder or something?  In that case, chmod probably wouldn't work.  Check ls -l and see who the files belong to
[04:18] <Maccer> But you could still probably read from it though...
[04:18] <Maccer> (The user and group)
[04:19] <armdale> yea it's a hard drive
[04:19] <armdale> i own it
[04:19] <armdale> my user
[04:19] <AceLaptop> It says my file is uplaoded, but Ubuntu One will not let me copy public link?
[04:19] <Maccer> armdale:  How do you launch this server anyways?
[04:20] <armdale> sudo /etc/init.d/forked-daapd start
[04:20] <caixa> ubuntu!
[04:20] <armdale> so it's that the server isn't running under my user?
[04:21] <Maccer> caixa:  No, this is Patrick.
[04:21] <armdale> so it can't access folders that my user has access to?
[04:21] <JRowe> hi there :) i just got ubuntu 12.04 installed on my acer and im trying to arrange things to be familiar
[04:21] <JRowe> is there an easy way to make the taskbar on the top of my screen autohide?
[04:21] <Maccer> armdale:  Do you happen to know if forked-daapd de-roots itself?  You might need to add it to the group you're in
[04:21] <caixa> Maccer, patrick? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5eljJhYKY
[04:22] <armdale> not sure what de-roots itself means
[04:22] <Maccer> caixa:  No, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzOXtXm8p0
[04:22] <Maccer> armdale:  Removes itself from root.  Removes its super user permissions.
[04:22] <armdale> not sure about that. how would i find that out?
[04:23] <caixa> Maccer, mine was better
[04:23] <Maccer> caixa:  Well you're wrong!
[04:23] <armdale> when you say add 'it' to the group i'm in, you mean i would change the executable's group?
[04:23] <Maccer> armdale:  I'm not sure.  I'd read the documentation and see what the configure says.
[04:23] <Maccer> armdale:  Yes.
[04:23] <armdale> ah ok
[04:24] <armdale> k i'll look into it
[04:24] <armdale> thank for the help
[04:24] <Maccer> Alright.  See if it runs as its own user too.  (The exe could be root:root, but init could launch it as itself)
[04:25] <armdale> generally, where do executable's live in a unix file system?
[04:25] <JRowe> near the beach, preferably
[04:25] <ANub> :)
[04:25] <bindi> /usr/bin/ I guess?
[04:26] <armdale> k
[04:26] <ANub> /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin
[04:26] <xangua> escuchando canciones del lustro pasado :3 wake me up when september ends
[04:26] <Maccer> armdale:  Also, what ever init script you used to start it.  Open it up and paste the script.  I'd like to see how it launches
[04:28] <armdale> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138997/
[04:28] <JRowe> is the thing on the top the taskbar, or what should i be calling it? it doesnt seem to respond at all
[04:28] <Maccer> armdale:  Well, from the look of that initscript.  It's located in /usr/sbin/forked-daapd
[04:29] <armdale> indeed it is
[04:29] <armdale> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root    root      429680 2012-01-08 12:31 forked-daapd
[04:30] <lingolatz> Hello all, I am doing a survey for a high school project regarding Linux distributions. I would appreciate if you filled out this poll: misterpoll.com/polls/564906 (choose safemode) thank you :)
[04:30] <armdale> when a program runs as root, it should be able to access any directory, no?
[04:30] <kamusician> JRowe-it's a panel, left click and you will see an option to aotuhide...
[04:31] <andrewh192> hey, I am tryin to install ubuntu 32bit on my laptop
[04:31] <JRowe> no response when i left click
[04:31] <JRowe> or click, etc
[04:31] <kamusician> *autohide
[04:31] <Maccer> armdale:  Yes, but not if it deroots itself.  Which I'm not sure whether this server does.
[04:31] <andrewh192> when i run the install cd, i keep getting this message....
[04:31] <armdale> i see
[04:32] <Maccer> Check with what ever to see what the server runs as
[04:32] <andrewh192> "This kernal requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your CPU
[04:32] <andrewh192> what does that mean
[04:32] <andrewh192> what is a pae?
[04:32] <JRowe> yeah, i get the regular menus for whatever application is open on the panel, but theres no response from right clicking
[04:32] <kamusician> Hmm, I never had that problem- are you left clicking on the panel?
[04:32] <bazhang> !pae | andrewh192
[04:32] <Maccer> andrewh192: Process address extension
[04:32] <JRowe> right left or mid click do nothing
[04:32] <Maccer> *Physical
[04:33] <JRowe> nor any combination thereof :P
[04:33] <Maccer> armdale,  Check with what ever to see what the server runs as
[04:34] <JRowe> will killall gnome-panel reboot it?
[04:34] <kamusician> My bad- I meant right click- not left. If it's not responding my only suggestion is to reinstall the panel
[04:34] <armdale> yea i'm reading the docs now
[04:35] <JRowe> reinstall the panel?
[04:35] <Maccer> According to the conf on github armdale, it looks like it does deroot itself to a user
[04:35] <kamusician> Which ubuntu are you using?
[04:35] <JRowe> 12.04 desktop 64
[04:35] <ali_> sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[04:36] <Maccer> daapd by default.  Add the user daapd (not the binary) to your user group.
[04:36] <andrewh192> ok
[04:36] <Maccer> armdale: daapd by default.  Add the user daapd (not the binary) to your user group.
[04:36] <andrewh192> what's a i686?
[04:36] <lkthomas> hey guys, I am trying to use public key for auth on ssh
[04:36] <kamusician> Which desktop? xfce,gnome??
[04:36] <VeraMono> pc
[04:36] <andrewh192> isn't that capable of 64bit os versions?
[04:37] <lkthomas> I generate the private and public key on windows, and upload public key to server, but still not work
[04:37] <JRowe> oh, hmm
[04:37] <Maccer> andrewh192: That's a 32-bit instruction set.
[04:37] <Maccer> So no, it's not.
[04:37] <armdale> ok. aannd, how would one do that
[04:37] <JRowe> gnome and unity are different desktop environments / frontends?
[04:38] <andrewh192> Maccer: ok, so why then would if i was running a 32bit version of the installer, get said that it requires something that is only used for the 64 bit installer?
[04:38] <Maccer> armdale: useradd -G group-name username
[04:38] <JRowe> i believe this is unity, as its strictly default
[04:38] <Maccer> andrewh192: I'm not sure, what does it want from you in general?
[04:39] <Maccer> PAE isn't 64-bit only.
[04:39] <andrewh192> Maccer: ok
[04:39] <Maccer> PAE just lets you use memory beyond ~4GB.
[04:39] <Maccer> (on a 32-bit system)
[04:39] <JRowe> i think i want gnome
[04:39] <andrewh192> Maccer: gotcha... well how do i fix it?
[04:39] <andrewh192> do i need to download and burn another copy of the install iso file?
[04:40] <armdale> hrm
[04:40] <Maccer> andrewh192: I didn't understand what the problem was in general?
[04:40] <armdale> brodie@main:/etc$ useradd -G brodie daapd
[04:40] <armdale> useradd: user 'daapd' already exists
[04:40] <andrewh192> Maccer: it won't let me install ubuntu
[04:40] <Maccer> Oh sorry armdale, wrong command.
[04:40] <armdale> did i do that right?
[04:40] <armdale> oh
[04:40] <andrewh192> Maccer: says that the cpu doesn't have PAE
[04:40] <armdale> usermod?
[04:40] <Maccer> armdale: usermod -a -G group user
[04:40] <andrewh192> Maccer: and that i need to use a kernel appropiate to my cpu
[04:40] <Maccer> Yes.
[04:41] <Maccer> andrewh192: And this is the 32-bit ubuntu?
[04:41] <JRowe> kamusician:  instead of wrestling with unity, do you know of a really flexible/customizable shell i could use as an alternative?
[04:42] <kamusician> I've tried them them all and ended up preferring xfce
[04:42] <Like> Xd
[04:42] <andrewh192> Maccer: yeah
[04:43] <JRowe> does it work with compiz?
[04:43] <andrewh192> i downloaded and burned a copy of the 32bit iso file of ubuntu
[04:43] <diazruy> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble with the wireless network on a brand new System76 Pangolin laptop. Seems to have started after suspending. I have already enabled/disabled wireless, turned off/on the wireless card and rebooted the machine several times. It happened earlier today when I disabled the card with the keyboard Fn key but it came back eventually when I disabled/enabled using the network icon.
[04:43] <Maccer> andrewh192:  Looks like you'll have to use either:  1. The alternate 32-bit CD.  2. A different ubuntu flavor or distrobution
[04:43] <andrewh192> ok
[04:44] <kamusician> It's fairly easy to customize and light weight and I believe it works with compiz...
[04:44] <andrewh192> Maccer: thanx
[04:44] <Like> Ssss.
[04:44] <Maccer> !pae | andrewh192
[04:44] <Maccer> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[04:44] <armdale> doesn't look to have worked:  scan: Skipping library directory /media/wd1/Music/, could not dereference: Permission denied
[04:44] <JRowe> cool, tyvm kamusician . gonna get xfce installed and save myself some frustration
[04:44] <Maccer> diazruy: I don't understand what the problem is?
[04:45] <armdale> although, drwx------ 1 brodie brodie 139264 2012-08-08 10:36 Music
[04:45] <hashshu> this is fun
[04:45] <kamusician> Good idea- you'll probably like it!  I'm out for now- good luck
[04:45] <armdale> that menas that the folder Music is only accessible to the user, not the group?
[04:45] <Maccer> armdale:  Paste your config (without your password)
[04:45] <diazruy> Maccer: I can't seem to reach hosts. The wireless network detects networks, connects to them, but when I try to navigate using the browser, it says it can't connect to the host. Using IPs doesn't work either. Can't even ping the router
[04:45] <hashshu> chmod a+rwx
[04:45] <hashshu> chmod a+rwx *
[04:46] <armdale> my config?
[04:46] <Maccer> armdale:  No it's accessable to everyone who's under brodie.  Assuming you have read permissions on those folders
[04:46] <Maccer> Yeah, the .conf?
[04:46] <armdale> oh right
[04:46] <Maccer> diazruy:  Do you happen to be using a DD-WRT or Open-WRT router?
[04:46] <Maccer> In-fact, does ethernet work from this wireless router?
[04:47] <diazruy> Maccer: my router is an SMC
[04:47] <armdale> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139021/
[04:47] <diazruy> Maccer: yes, the wired network is fine. And I can connect my phone wirelessly to it without a problem
[04:48] <Maccer> diazruy:  Could I get a copy of your 'lsmod' output?  And then possibly the output of 'dmesg | grep wlan0'
[04:49] <diazruy> Maccer: one second, it might take a bit since I'll have to copy it to a usb or something. Or would it affect the output if I connect the laptop on the wired network?
[04:49] <Maccer> diazruy:  No it shouldn't, just as long as you don't restart the computer
[04:50] <usr13> diazruy: what does iwconfig say?  What does ifconfig say?
[04:50] <mneptok> diazruy: also, try "sudo dhclient wlan0" and see what output you get.
[04:51] <Spazio> guys does wine-doors still works on ubuntu 12.04? if so anyone can help me install it please? thank you :)
[04:52] <Maccer> Spazio: It's unmaintained, so it might and it might not.
[04:54] <guest_1065> !wine | Spazio
[04:54] <Maccer> Also Spazio:  Why would you want wine-doors anyways?  The repository is terribly out of date, and you'd have better luck just downloading it straight away
[04:54] <Spazio> hi guys thanks all...yes i installed wine already but the program i wanted to run doesn't work and i read it did with wine-doors
[04:55] <Spazio> downloading straight away what Maccer?
[04:55] <diazruy> Maccer: just paste the output here?
[04:55] <mneptok> Spazio: the WINE AppDB is the authoritative source on what will work and what will not.
[04:55] <Maccer> diazruy:  On pastebin or a related site, yes
[04:55] <diazruy> ok one sec
[04:55] <Maccer> Spazio, why do you think it won't run?  Did you try it?
[04:56] <Spazio> Maccer yes I did and it doesn't unfortunately :)
[04:57] <Spazio> I also read it might work with Mono? Anyway this application needs Visual Basic
[04:57] <Maccer> Wine-doors doesn't do anything special though...
[04:57] <Spazio> this is were i read about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?p=19596
[04:57] <Maccer> Have you tried it with the latest Wine and ubuntu 12.04?
[04:58] <diazruy> Maccer: http://pastebin.com/U8D3ZzWW
[04:58] <Maccer> You could get it here http://sourceforge.net/projects/winedoors/, but you'll have to compile it yourself.
[04:58] <phonebook_> whats the word for dna that is there but your body doesnt use?
[04:58] <phonebook_> like code that is there but isnt getting used
[04:58] <Maccer> diazruy:  Why are you running virtualbox drivers?
[04:58] <Maccer> vboxdrv is for uhh, guests, afaik.
[04:58] <Spazio> Maccer yes I tried all latest...i found the sourceforge link and downloaded the thing but dunno what to do with it
[04:59] <mneptok> Spazio: wait ... all this for a ... file manager?
[04:59] <Maccer> Spazio:  Check README, INSTALL, etc
[04:59] <diazruy> Maccer: I need virtualbox to test IE. Wireless was working earlier today, after I set up Virtualbox
[04:59] <Spazio> yes mneptok...i really need it right now..not worth explaining why trust me :)
[05:00] <mneptok> Spazio: best of luck. if it's not in the WINE AppDB, it's unlikely to work based on hints in a forum post that is *4 years old*
[05:00] <Maccer> So it was working earlier, diazruy?  I'm not sure how this works in a virtualbox guest though
[05:01] <diazruy> Maccer: yes, I used it all day today and it stopped working all of a sudden
[05:01] <diazruy> Maccer: I am not using a virtualbox guest at themoment
[05:01] <diazruy> i can uninstall virtualbox if that helps
[05:01] <Spazio> yes mneptok that's why i come to ask..i'm dubious myself...but i won't like permanently ruin something id it doesn't work right?sorry but i'm too new
[05:02] <Maccer> Are you using ipv6 on purpose diazruy?
[05:02] <diazruy> Maccer: no, whatever is default
[05:02] <JRowe> anyone know of a netbook specific channel?
[05:02] <Maccer> Try connecting by ipv4, check your network manager settings.  Your laptop is trying to connect via ipv4 exlusively
[05:03] <diazruy> Maccer: I tried disabling ipv6 to see if that helped
[05:03] <mneptok> !alis > JRowe
[05:03] <diazruy> Maccer: you're saying I should enable it?
[05:03] <Maccer> And make sure it's set to ipv4 explicitly
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> JRowe, not really a netbook has hardware that is a regular laptop generally or desktop
[05:03] <Maccer> I suppose, diazruy.
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> is in a*
[05:04] <JRowe> thanks mneptok :)
[05:04] <diazruy> Maccer: so I'm re-enabling ipv6 (method Automatic)
[05:04] <mneptok> Spazio: you know that there are many, MANY file and window managers for Unix OSes, yes?
[05:04] <Maccer> diazruy:  Ok.  And if that doesn't work, set it solely to ipv4.
[05:04] <diazruy> Maccer: how do I do that?
[05:04] <Pummel> anyone seen this problem?  I've checked the forums and tried all the stuff on there regarding moving the lists folder, creating a new one, then apt-get clean, then apt-get update and no good see the following
[05:05] <Pummel> E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[05:05] <Pummel> E: Error occurred while processing libasound2 (UsePackage2)
[05:05] <Pummel> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:05] <Pummel> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[05:05] <Maccer> When you're editing the wireless connection, go to ipv4 settings and set 'Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete' and uncheck 'Require IPv6 addressing for this connection to complete' if it fails
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | pummel use this in the future
[05:06] <kevin> I am trying to file share using samba. I have followed the intructions from ubuntu and set up samba as instructed. When I open nautilus and click 'browse network' it locates all the pc's on the network. When I connect it returns 'Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server. Can any one tell me what I have done wrong?
[05:06] <Maccer> Wait diazruy:  Could you please give me the output of 'dmesg | grep wlan0' AFTER you did sudo dhclient wlan0
[05:07] <Maccer> You gave me the before output by the way.
[05:07] <diazruy> Maccer: I've already selected require ipv4 and ipv6. do you want the output before I do that?
[05:08] <Maccer> De-select ipv6, sudo dhclient wlan0, try connecting, 'dmesg | grep wlan0'
[05:09] <diazruy> Maccer: http://pastebin.com/4pcmYUui
[05:09] <armdale>  /join #linux
[05:10] <diazruy> Maccer: I'll pull the network cable then to test the require ipv4 setting change
[05:12] <theadmin> Any help on bug 1035173? (I assumed it's a bug so I reported it)
[05:13] <Maccer> Hrm, still trying to connect to ipv6 for some reason.  This is after dhclient, diazruy?
[05:13] <Pummel> Can anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/
[05:14] <diazruy2> Maccer: when I checked both require ipv4 AND ipv6, the connection kept on being dropped and reestablished. When I deselect require ipv6 then it goes back to the way it was before (can't reach hosts)
[05:14] <MonkeyDust> op de fiets
[05:14] <MonkeyDust> oops
[05:14] <diazruy2> Maccer: by the way, I logged in with this other used from my desktop
[05:15] <diazruy2> *user
[05:16] <Maccer> diazruy2: I'm honestly puzzled, but also a little tired. <_>
[05:16] <diazruy2> Maccer: no worries. I appreciate the effort
[05:17] <kevin> When I use samba to share files I receive the error 'unable to mount location', and 'Failed to retrieve share list from server'. Can any one help?
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> !samba
[05:19] <exsanet> ikkyyruyvu089487ku7on v yviu
[05:19] <Thanos> which file browser is as useful (or moreso) than windows explorer
[05:19] <JRowe> total commander
[05:19] <niocora> How do I get an updated wacom.ko from input-wacom?
[05:19] <atopal> Hi all
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> exsanet, hope that is not a password
[05:20] <Thanos> JRowe: for ubuntu? I'm sorry I didn't specify.
[05:21] <blkperl> Hi guys, I'm trying to get Precise working with nfs mounted homedirs and on login dconf-service hangs, the open file is $USER/.config/dconf/user and when you try to ls it hangs as well.
[05:21] <JRowe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060937
[05:21] <Element85> hey guys, I am trying to figure something out I need to stop a module from loading when connecting a USB device
[05:21] <theadmin> Thanos: Most of filemanagers in Ubuntu are much better than that, but if you're looking for something similar to total commander try mc, vifm or xfe
[05:22] <Thanos> thanks.
[05:22] <JRowe> might have some relevance - im a noob so take that with a grain of salt :)
[05:22] <theadmin> Thanos: gnome-commander is good too
[05:23] <Element85> if anyone has a good way to stop the module from loading let me know trying to resolve a bug
[05:23] <Element85> its loading as part of the evdev driver
[05:24] <theadmin> Element85: Create /etc/modprobe.d/yourmodule.conf and add "blacklist yourmodule" there.
[05:24] <theadmin> Oh.
[05:24] <Element85> yeah I figure I probably don't want to black list that entire module
[05:25] <theadmin> Hm, well I know no other way, soryr
[05:25] <theadmin> sorry*
[05:26] <niocora> How do I get an updated wacom.ko from input-wacom?
[05:26] <Element85> well let me give it a try really quick if my keyboard stops working we know what happened
[05:26] <Element85> one sec let me spin up a vm and try actually
[05:26] <Maccer> So my own question, does anyone happen to know how to fix this conflict?  I have an old 32-bit application that reads /usr/lib (64-bit) instead of /usr/lib32.  Is there any work around I can do to fix this?  (64-bit system with both 32-bit and 64-bit libs)
[05:27] <Element85> nicora: they have an updated tarball on wacom website I would try installing the whole thing
[05:28] <Element85> nicora: are you trying to get a lenovo mutlitouch display working?
[05:28] <Like> #FF YOU
[05:28] <Like> THX 73
[05:30] <niocora> Element85: A Bamboo Pen & Touch.
[05:30] <Element85> niocora: let me link you one sec
[05:31] <MonkeyDust> Maccer  you need ia32-libs
[05:32] <Hereisanotherlie> anyone have experience creating a bootable usb for a mac?
[05:32] <MonkeyDust> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[05:32] <Hereisanotherlie> I keep getting an invalid disk image message
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> hi
[05:33] <Hereisanotherlie> I tried using linux live usb creator for windows and the official ubuntu guide for macs to no avail
[05:33] <wolfgang_> when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?
[05:33] <Snowie> Hi all. A bit OT, but I'm trying to test a patch for a bug report I submitted. Apparently 12.04 and CAPS don't agree with eachother. Ardour 3 beta 5. Any advice or reading you could give me to test this out. http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=5039
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> is gdm used for 12.04 login window?
[05:33] <theadmin> linuxuz3r: No, lightdm
[05:33] <crimsonmane> Hereisanotherlie: try using UNETBOOTIN
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> does lightdm work with vmware fusion
[05:34] <Hereisanotherlie> crimsonmane: I did but it says the usb stick will only work on windows after it's completed
[05:34] <crimsonmane> "work on windows" ??? it's a BOOT DEVICE it doesnt care what OS is already installed
[05:34] <Hereisanotherlie> i.e. Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7, or Linux, or Mac OS X 10.5+. Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)
[05:35] <Hereisanotherlie> that's from their site
[05:35] <wolfgang_> when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?
[05:35] <Snowie> Hereisanotherlie, PC doesnt mean windows
[05:35] <Hereisanotherlie> crimsonmane: it has to do with UEFI
[05:35] <crimsonmane> macs are PC's too
[05:35] <Hereisanotherlie> maybe it means ppc? I'll try it out
[05:35] <MonkeyDust> false, it's either mac or pc
[05:35] <wolfgang_> PC= personal computer
[05:35] <crimsonmane> macs are personal computers
[05:36] <Snowie> crimsonmane, Apple would quickly disagree. PC's are technically "IBM Compatible Personal Computers"
[05:36] <wolfgang_> when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?
[05:36] <crimsonmane> apple just wants to be different, for marketing reasons
[05:36] <Hereisanotherlie> I'm trying to do this on a macbook air without an optical drive otherwise I would just burn a cd
[05:36] <Snowie> crimsonmane, I know, but historically, the term 'PC' is exactly what i said before
[05:37] <akem> and Apple are x86 too nowdays iirc.
[05:37] <crimsonmane> anyway, in your UEFI computer you're supposed to turn off secure boot and other secure features in order to boot linux on it
[05:37] <andrewh192> is there a iso file of ubuntu that is non-pae using
[05:37] <Hereisanotherlie> akem: they are
[05:37] <andrewh192> not sure how to say that any other way...
[05:37] <andrewh192> i am having trouble still installing ubuntu onto a laptop
[05:37] <akem> Hereisanotherlie, yea not like the old PPC mac days.
[05:37] <akem> so they are really PCs now.
[05:37] <Element85> sorry got distracted still getting it
[05:37] <andrewh192> keeps saying that PAE isn't on the CPU and i need to use the correct kernal for my cpu
[05:38] <crimsonmane> andrewh192: is it a 32 bit or 64 bit computer?
[05:38] <Hereisanotherlie> it looks like you guys are right though unetbootin should work -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/129177/ubuntu-usb-for-os-x-instructions-dont-create-bootable-usb-drive
[05:38] <niocora> Element85: TY
[05:38] <andrewh192> 32
[05:38] <Element85> niocora: http://www.wacom.com/en/CustomerCare/Drivers.aspx?model=Bamboo+Pen+and+Touch&os=Linux
[05:38] <crimsonmane> andrewh192: one moment while i fetch your link and install the system and configure the settings for you
[05:38] <andrewh192> kewl
[05:39] <andrewh192> thanx crimsonmane
[05:39] <Element85> niocora: those worked for me getting my tablet working
[05:39] <niocora> Element85: What tablet do you have?
[05:40] <crimsonmane> andrewh192: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[05:40] <crimsonmane> andrewh192: burn that to disc
[05:40] <crimsonmane> after downloading
[05:40] <niocora> Element85: I don't get anything from that link. Just a selection of wacom websites.
[05:40] <dicktard> Anyone know how to convert flv vids from youtube to something readable in a regular home dvd player?
[05:41] <crimsonmane> dicktard: that's illegal, isnt it?
[05:41] <niocora> dicktard: DeVeDe.
[05:41] <Snowie> dicktard, not suppored here, but ffmpeg or...
[05:41] <kevin> see if ffmpeg would convert it ? to a dvd readable formt
[05:41] <wolfgang_> when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?
[05:41] <dicktard> crimsonmane: Not if they are home vids
[05:42] <Hereisanotherlie> if I were to download youtube videos I would probably start by googling a "youtube ripper" but that's just a hypothetical
[05:42] <dicktard> kevin: What formats are usually readable?
[05:42] <mneptok> dicktard: try VLC. it might. and your nick is ... well ... really? really?
[05:42] <Hereisanotherlie> dicktard: avi mpeg
[05:42] <Hereisanotherlie> dicktard: dicktard dicktard or mp4
[05:42] <dicktard> Hereisanotherlie: I already have them downloaded, just need to change the flv vids to something else.
[05:43] <Snowie> dicktard, as to what ur dvd player will read from a disc, consult dvd player manual
[05:43] <Hereisanotherlie> it depends on the player though
[05:43] <kevin> not sure dicktard...I just have used ffmpeg and know that it converts plenty of formats...google ffmpeg and see if htey do it
[05:43] <crimsonmane> dicktard: if they're home vids, then why are you having to rip them off youtube?
[05:43] <crimsonmane> why dont you have access to the originals?
[05:45] <Snowie> So... I'm about to head out for a bit, but I'm keen to learn somthing. Please if you had to find reading material for a noob to learn how to apply this patch http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=5039 PM me. Im off to get some beers, as I imagine this will be some frustrating reading. THANKS UBUNTU TEAM!!! brb
[05:45] <wolfgang_> when i port forward what is the command for allowing the port in terminal?
[05:45] <kevin> sudo apt-get install samba.....will this install both client and server?
[05:45] <mneptok> wolfgang_: have you specifically blocked ports on the machine?
[05:46] <dicktard> crimsonmane: not really home vids, rather foreign vids that may or may not be home vids.
[05:46] <crimsonmane> wolfgang_: there's a firewall program installed by default, and you can open the port with it.
[05:46] <niocora> dicktard: DeVeDe.
[05:46] <crimsonmane> dicktard: so "someone else' home vids"
[05:46] <niocora> It is from the repositories...
[05:46] <wolfgang_> i have it configured by going to default gateway in browser
[05:46] <mneptok> dicktard: you have some directions. VLC. ffmpeg. your DVD manual. go explore.
[05:46] <crimsonmane> dicktard: so you're a pedo is what you're saying? you watch "home videos" but they're not necessarily your own...
[05:46] <wolfgang_> but there is a terminal command to
[05:46] <wolfgang_> i just dont remember it
[05:47] <wolfgang_> i have port forwarded several times
[05:47] <mneptok> crimsonmane: dicktard has the needed advice. let's let it drop.
[05:47] <mneptok> wolfgang_: iptables is the default firewall. but it blocks *nothing* by default.
[05:48] <wolfgang_> When i have done it before i had to configure the router in browser then use a command in terminal
[05:48] <upset> I turned off compositing in unity 2d through Ubuntu Tweak. Now the edges of my dash are gone. I also can
[05:48] <wolfgang_> i just forgot the command
[05:48] <andrewh192> crimsonmane: thanx
[05:48] <mneptok> crimsonmane: also, calling people terms like "pedo" is definitely against the !CoC
[05:48] <upset> I also can't see the end of the applications options. The sources options in the dash fall off the screen. What can I do?
[05:49] <dicktard> crimsonmane: As a minor and as a female, it's hard to be considered a pedo. haha
[05:49] <Maccer> MonkeyDust: I already do ia32-libs, if I didn't, /usr/lib32 wouldn't exist or would be useless
[05:49] <upset> dicktard: That's quite the sexist remark
[05:50] <mneptok> !ot
[05:50] <IdleOne> dicktard: drop it. you got the advice you needed, please move on.
[05:50] <wolfgang_> what is the command?
[05:50] <dicktard> IdleOne: Thank you, it's done.
[05:50] <upset> dicktard: In any case, your name is pretty offensive. You should use another in channels like this. There's a high standard of courtesy
[05:50] <crimsonmane> kids these days...
[05:51] <IdleOne> crimsonmane: We don't need any comments from the peanut gallery
[05:51] <upset> Woah, chill
[05:51] <mneptok> hi!
[05:51] <wolfgang_> what is the command?
[05:52] <upset> Again, application option fall off the dash, and the edges of my dash are gone since I turned off compositing. What can I do for either issue?
[05:52] <MonkeyDust> Maccer  do you find ia32-libs-multiarch is installed, using apt-cache policy?
[05:53] <wolfgang_> what is fire wall command?
[05:53] <MonkeyDust> wolfgang_  ufw
[05:53] <wolfgang_> thank you
[05:54] <upset> I'll go to the forums or something. Later folks
[05:54] <guest-QACULM> guys i ran into some crazy ubuntu mess, on 12.04 32 bit, i was using my laptop yesterday screen turned hot pink with black dots, i restarted now whenever i try to log into my regular account it gets into a boot loop
[05:55] <guest-QACULM> says something really fast and then drops back to login menu, i choose guest and it works but cannot log into my regular account
[05:55] <diazruy2> Maccer: I've found something new. The laptop can connect to the wireless network, but can't acess hosts. However, at one point the laptop was able to see my iPhone's personal hotspot and connected to it, and I was able to browse using that wifi connection. Going back to the router one, however, still doesn't work
[05:55] <diazruy2> One strange thing is that the laptop doesn't always see the iPhone hotspot
[05:57] <wolfgang_> how do i use root in terminal?
[05:57] <MonkeyDust> wolfgang_  sudo
[05:57] <wolfgang_> MonkeyDust, so i just do sudo and that gives me root?
[05:58] <Snowie> wolfgang_, no, use sudo in front of the command you want to run as root.
[05:58] <MonkeyDust> wolfgang_  sudo ufw status/enable/disable   (choose one of these)
[05:58] <idefix> can anyone help me with this small problem I have..
[05:58] <wolfgang_> ok thank you
[05:58] <idefix> I can't get sound running properly in the Jin client using Java
[05:58] <Snowie> !ask | idefix
[05:59] <jardag> how to print existing pdf file
[05:59] <Snowie> jardag, um, pressing print is not working for you?
[05:59] <idefix> the Jin client is a chess client, it makes a ticking sound when you make a move and different sounds when you capture or castle, but my client makes three sounds in a row after three moves which is very annoying
[06:00] <jardag> there is no print button in the pdf viewer
[06:00] <Snowie> jardag, file>print ???
[06:00] <ylmfos> hello
[06:01] <niocora> I can't compile xf86-input-wacom-0.16.0 because I get the error No package 'xorg-server' found No package 'randrproto' found.
[06:01] <Snowie> so noone could give me a jumping off point to try this patch http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=5039
[06:01] <ylmfos> hello man
[06:02] <tao_> hi anyone has time to help me trouble shoot my wireless adapter?
[06:02] <jardag> what is file.pdf > print
[06:02] <tao_> i am running 12.04
[06:02] <Snowie> tao_, just tell everyone what's happening and what youve tried :)
[06:02] <diazruy2> Maccer: it seems like it has to do with  wireless encryption. I've changed the router to use WEP with 64 bit key and it connected
[06:02] <johnnypoopoo> hi. i messed up my ubuntu box.
[06:02] <johnnypoopoo> root@localhost:/# ps
[06:02] <johnnypoopoo> bash: /bin/ps: No such file or directory
[06:02] <MonkeyDust> Snowie  technically, it's for this channel, but the people in #ubuntustudio may be more skilled
[06:02] <johnnypoopoo>  /bin/ps is there, but i cannot execute it :\
[06:02] <tao_> i am using an Asus wireless pci adpater, chipset is Ralink rt2790, kernel module in use is rt2800pci
[06:03] <Snowie> MonkeyDust, thanks mate, will try there as well
[06:03] <tao_> it does not work with kernel 3.2.0.29
[06:04] <MonkeyDust> tao_  the current kernel is 3.2.0-27, anything beyond that is not supported and/or probably unstable
[06:04] <iwak-piyek> iwak-piyek yummy
[06:04] <tao_> i installed backport kernel modules, and loaded the rt2800 ko, still can not connect, i can see my access point but it will not establish any connection
[06:04] <johnnypoopoo> please help me
[06:05] <tao_> MonkeyDust, i just got the kernel from ubuntu update, they just pushed it out today, i had same problem on 3.2.0.27 as well
[06:05] <niocora> johnnypoopoo: Type cd in a terminal.
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> i did
[06:06] <niocora> johnnypoopoo: And?
[06:06] <niocora> Anny errors?
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> root@localhost:/# cd
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> root@localhost:~#
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> nope
[06:06] <idefix> Snowie, nobody know Jin.. :(
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> but netstat, ps, ifconfig all dont work
[06:06] <niocora> Try apt-get
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> yeah that works
[06:06] <tao_> also the wireless card seem to work under kernel 3.4, but ati fglrx is not working..so i guess i am trying to get both to work.
[06:06] <johnnypoopoo> can i reinstall these some how ?
[06:07] <diazruy2> Maccer: I've updated the router once again to use WPA-Personal, I erased the connection on the laptop and rejoined, and now it's all working
[06:07] <Snowie> idefix, i guess not. try contacting the programs developers. you can find their contact info in the software centre
[06:07] <idefix> thx
[06:07] <mneptok> johnnypoopoo: what happens if you are not root?
[06:07] <niocora> johnnypoopoo: Somehow those prgorams are broken... I can't help, sorry.
[06:08] <johnnypoopoo> LOL
[06:08] <johnnypoopoo> mneptok still doesnt work
[06:08] <idefix> Snowie unfortunately the program isn't installed from the repositories
[06:08] <johnnypoopoo>  /bin/ps is there.... but they wont execute
[06:08] <johnnypoopoo> bash is saying no such file or dir
[06:08] <Zenexer> I just upgraded with apt-get (apt-get upgrade).  Typical procedure, but now after I log in via lightdm or gdm, I just get a desktop background and mouse cursor.  No windows, no Unity, and I've tried a bit of troubleshooting, but I can't seem to figure it out.  Any tips?
[06:09] <mneptok> johnnypoopoo: ls -l /bin/ps
[06:09] <johnnypoopoo> root@localhost:/home/bunghole# ls -l /bin/ps
[06:09] <johnnypoopoo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33280 1983-09-26 00:45 /bin/ps
[06:09] <johnnypoopoo> root@localhost:/home/bunghole#
[06:11] <mneptok> johnnypoopoo: you might have FS corruption. use tools to fiagnose that.
[06:11] <mneptok> *diagnose
[06:11] <johnnypoopoo> what tools
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> tao_  you're right: kernel -29 here too
[06:12] <mneptok> johnnypoopoo: fsck etc. or just reinstall if there's no data outside /home you care about. see what happens.
[06:12] <Snowie> johnnypoopoo, restart machine, hold down shift to load grub menu, and use fsck, "file system check"
[06:13] <Snowie> johnnypoopoo, sorry, load recovery mode from grub. missed a step
[06:14] <saju_m> i got a command   socat -d -d -d  TCP-LISTEN:6900 EXEC:'/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900' > /tmp/6900_5900_S9BJWs.log 2>&1 &
[06:14] <saju_m> * Any request to post 6900 of localhost will execute command '/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900'
[06:14] <saju_m> * could you please explain the use of "socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900" in command "/usr/bin/ssh -p 22 root@192.168.1.108 socat - TCP\:127.0.0.1\:5900"
[06:16] <johnnypoopoo> so
[06:16] <johnnypoopoo> if as root i accidentally went to /bin
[06:16] <johnnypoopoo> and rm -rf ps
[06:16] <johnnypoopoo> theres NO way to reinstall it?
[06:17] <Maccer> Well, you'd re-install it by installing it again, wouldn't you?
[06:17] <tao_> alright, i will try to use ndiswrapper, that is the only thing i can think of for now
[06:17] <tao_> will post back results later
[06:17] <johnnypoopoo> reinstalling the OS again ?
[06:17] <johnnypoopoo> im talking just ps itself
[06:17] <Maccer> I assume you mean recover it johnnypoopoo in which I'm sure there's a way, but it requires you to do a lot of painful manual terminal labor.
[06:18] <johnnypoopoo> the command
[06:18] <Maccer> Oh.  PS... hrm.
[06:18] <johnnypoopoo> yeah
[06:18] <johnnypoopoo> process status
[06:18] <johnnypoopoo>  /bin/ps
[06:18] <Maccer> No, I think you could survive without PS.  Although I'm not sure.
[06:18] <Maccer> Why is that?
[06:18] <Maccer> That's not too low level though, so you could break some initscripts at most.
[06:19] <Maccer> Correct me if I'm wrong
[06:19] <Maccer> Also, one thing to vent about to ubuntu devs, why didn't ya'll just make ld check /usr/lib32 instead of /usr/lib/i386-gnu-linux?  Such redundancy.
[06:19] <johnnypoopoo> nevermind
[06:20] <johnnypoopoo> i fucking figured it out
[06:20] <johnnypoopoo> what a useless shite of a channel
[06:20] <FloodBot1> johnnypoopoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <Maccer> johnnypoopoo: That's not very nice
[06:20] <johnnypoopoo> all i have to do is find the package that contains ps and re-install it using apt-get --reinstall install <pkgname>
[06:20] <Maccer> lolwut he could have asked that in the first place
[06:20] <Zenexer> There's a package for that?
[06:20] <Zenexer> Good to know.
[06:21] <Maccer> coreutils
[06:21] <Zenexer> I suppose it would be in that, wouldn't it.
[06:21] <Maccer> Just got confused on why you would want to delete ps...
[06:22] <Zenexer> So that you can re-download it from a shady website, of course!
[06:22] <Maccer> run_as_sudo_to_recover_ps.sh
[06:22] <Zenexer> It's Linux, so it's safer to do that than it is to use those DLL sites for Windows.
[06:23] <Zenexer> Though fortunately, I don't think you'll find such sites for Linux.
[06:23] <jardag> what application prints pdf file in 112.04. evince does not
[06:24] <Zenexer> I was just setting up my printer and about to test it on a PDF file
[06:24] <Zenexer> Got a bit preoccupied with another problem, though
[06:24] <trimeta> Something I've never entirely understood: if the changelog for linux-meta says that the only effect of the new kernel version is "Bump ABI", is there any reason whatsoever to reboot into the new kernel?
[06:27] <jardag> Zenexer, how you want to test printing .pdf file?
[06:29] <alien64> humm seems Unity and Compiz are still a bit at odds....
[06:30] <Arsonide> So I installed Ubuntu, and as it boots up it gives me an out of range monitor error, which was slightly inconvenient but not too much of an issue because once it gets to LightDM it works fine.
[06:30] <Arsonide> However now I'm trying to install NVidia drivers, which forces me to log out and boot into a terminal session.
[06:30] <Arsonide> Which is out of range.
[06:30] <andrewh192> I keep getting this error message when i try to install ubuntu onto my laptop
[06:30] <Arsonide> I've tried all sorts of things, and I'm frustrated at this point.
[06:31] <Arsonide> I even tried plugging it into another monitor
[06:31] <TJ-> Arsonide: Are you familiar with getting to the GRUB boot menu, and altering the Linux kernel's command line?
[06:31] <andrewh192> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot - please use a kernal appropiate for your CPU
[06:31] <Arsonide> No, but this is on a second PC, so I can follow along.
[06:32] <andrewh192> i have tried to install the alternate cd version
[06:32] <TJ-> andrewaclt: That PC must have a rather ancient CPU?
[06:32] <andrewh192> i have tried to install the 64bit version just in case
[06:32] <andrewh192> i have tried everythign i can think of...
[06:32] <andrewh192> nothing seems to work...
[06:33] <andrewh192> but it would seem there is a solution
[06:33] <andrewh192> and would i think involve me still being able to install Ubuntu
[06:33] <andrewh192> just not sure how
[06:33] <TJ-> Arsonide: When the PC starts, immediately after the BIOS display, the GRUB bootloader menu can be accessed by holding down the shift key. Once you have that menu, you can edit one of the entries to change the kernel command line to avoid the "out of range" issue.
[06:34] <Arsonide> What if I don't see that screen? I think that's in the out of range block.
[06:34] <Arsonide> I changed the grub resolution though and updated it from Ubuntu.
[06:34] <TJ-> andrewaclt: The kernel builds for i386 based CPUs were changed to by default support Processor Address Extensions (PAE). It sounds as if the CPU in that PC doesn't support PAE. I believe there are some non PAE builds but I need to check
[06:35] <Arsonide> Yes, I booted and I saw "Grub loading ->out of range -> now my ubuntu login screen is showing
[06:35] <TJ-> Arsonide: You can install the Nvidia drivers from the GUI once you're logged in
[06:36] <Arsonide> No because installing those drivers requires X to be shut down
[06:36] <Arsonide> so I can't see what I'm doing when the terminal pops up
[06:36] <andrewh192> TJ-: ok
[06:36] <andrewh192> TJ-: that would be awesome
[06:36] <caixa> UBUNTU
[06:36] <TJ-> Arsonide: No, from the GUI you can install them ... top-right corner, press the gear icon, then choose "System Settings..." > Harware > Additional Drivers
[06:37] <caixa> UBUNTU!
[06:37] <bobo37773> andrewh192: If you are getting a pae error can you try installing a non pae enabled kernel and see if that works?
[06:37] <caixa> HIP HIP HOORAY
[06:37] <trimeta> andrewh192: If you don't mind us asking, what processor do you have?
[06:38] <Arsonide> TJ- I have another issue in that there's a bug with the drivers that menu provides.
[06:38] <andrewh192> trimeta: i am not sure
[06:38] <Arsonide> That causes heavy graphical corruption.
[06:38] <Arsonide> I have to install the binaries from NVIDIA's site.
[06:38] <Arsonide> Which means I have to figure out why my terminal is out of range
[06:38] <Arsonide> which would be nice anyway
[06:38] <Zenexer> Arsonide: They have different ones on their site?
[06:38] <Arsonide> in case I need it again in the future.
[06:38] <andrewh192> trimeta: its a pentium m
[06:38] <Arsonide> Yes, they have more up to date ones.
[06:38] <andrewh192> processor
[06:38] <Zenexer> Hmm
[06:39] <andrewh192> chipset is Intel 1855gm/gme/FSB
[06:39] <Zenexer> I wonder if that will solve my dual-screen issues
[06:39] <Snowie> Ok, so i now have solid install instructions. BUT, was CAPS installed form source on my machine? Where do i install/reinstall the following to test the patch. Im ahead, just need to know in which directory this all goes. dpkg-query -L caps has too many options http://quitte.de/dsp/caps.html#Installation
[06:39] <andrewh192> whatever that all means
[06:39] <EMPHASIS_> Anyone know of a QR code generator, please?
[06:39] <andrewh192> i ran the memory test and memtest+ came up with stuff.. that's what it says
[06:40] <Zenexer> EMPHASIS_: I usually just Google stuff like that
[06:40] <Snowie> EMPHASIS_, qrcode.com im sure
[06:40] <zruty> Windows saved a recycle bin on my disk, how can I delete it? In constantly get 'read only file system', but it isn't, only that folder is.
[06:40] <MonkeyDust> zruty  sudo rm
[06:40] <bobo37773> andrewh192: See this:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975422    Then do this (maybe?):    http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[06:40] <Zenexer> zruty: What filesystem?  ext# or NTFS?
[06:40] <EMPHASIS_> Zenexer, Snowie: thanks.  bfn.
[06:40] <TJ-> Arsonide: what's the bug?
[06:41] <Arsonide> heavy graphical corruption
[06:41] <TJ-> andrewh192: still looking...!
[06:41] <Zenexer> Sometimes sudo will still complain for NTFS
[06:41] <zruty> FAT32 - it is a ubuntu bootable disk
[06:41] <TJ-> Arsonide: Is the graphics in your PC very recent?
[06:41] <Arsonide> No it's pretty old
[06:42] <zruty> MonkeyDust: Helped for some files in there, not all
[06:42] <bobo37773> TJ-: See my previous comment. Look right to you (reguarding andrewh192s issue)?
[06:42] <zruty> Zenexer: I will check those pages
[06:42] <zruty> Thanks sofar!
[06:43] <Zenexer> If it's a bootable disk, the filesystem is probably mounted read-only
[06:43] <andrewh192> i think i have found my answer
[06:43] <Zenexer> As in, one of those LiveUSB things
[06:43] <scarleo> Hello, one folder in my home suddenly have very strange permissions, have anyone seen this before? d?????????   ? ?     ?          ?            ? .gvfs/
[06:43] <andrewh192> downloading the mini.iso file and installing that
[06:43] <TJ-> bobo37773: Yes, I had read those, but I'm looking at the official builds to be sure. I believe the mini.iso is non PAE but its a bit of pain having to install from that first
[06:44] <bobo37773> TJ-: Ah, I see. May be a little more complex than usual. Good point
[06:44] <Zenexer> zruty: If the filesystem is mounted read-only, permissions don't even matter.
[06:45] <TJ-> bobo37773: Last thing we want is to download that image and then find out its the same PAE kernel!
[06:45] <Zenexer> At least, in terms of writing.
[06:45] <Zenexer> You can't override it
[06:45] <bark_> is it possible to setup the disk partitioning scheme in a cli environment (i.e. jump into a shell; set everything up; and then continue with the installer as normal)?
[06:45] <bobo37773> TJ-: Hahaha. Yeah guess that would be a drag. Is pae a built in or can it be turned on and off?
[06:45] <butters> anybody here can help me with installing ubuntu?
[06:45] <andrewh192> hey
[06:45] <andrewh192> thanx guys.. :-)
[06:46] <zruty> Zenexer: It never mounted RO before...
[06:46] <Zenexer> bark_: There's an entire CLI installer, if that'll work.  It's pseudo-GUI
[06:46] <Zenexer> zruty: I think those mount RO and log any changes in a separate area or something along the lines of that.
[06:46] <TJ-> bobo37773: It's built-in ... its core to how the CPU addresses memory. With PAE a 32-bit CPU can address more than 4GB of RAM
[06:46] <Zenexer> Depends on the type
[06:46] <bark_> Zenexer: you mean the server/alternative installer? that's what i'm using
[06:47] <Zenexer> bark_: I think even the desktop one is capable of it
[06:47] <Halitus> Hi all, Does any one know why some times copying files on my mdadm array (xfs) it takes almost no time, and some times it takes ages like its copying the data?
[06:47] <bobo37773> TJ-: Ah gotcha. Thought their might be a kernel option to enable / disable it on the fly. Guess that wouldn't make sense though since it probably needs to be compiled a certain way.
[06:47] <scarleo> I cant get a correct listing of .gvfs even with root, who should own the .gvfs folder? And what permissions?
[06:47] <Zenexer> Or, rather, default
[06:48] <Zenexer> scarleo: Which .gvfs folder?  The one in ~?
[06:48] <bobo37773> TJ-: Think andrewh192 took off already
[06:48] <scarleo> Zenexer, yes, that one, I have ? for owner and permissions even when listing as root
[06:48] <TJ-> bobo37773: looking at the archives, there's -generic and -generic-pae linux-image for 3.2 so that would imply the generic is non-PAE but not sure which ISOs they would be in . Yes saw andrew192 go... lets hope he is successful
[06:48] <Zenexer> I think it should be you...
[06:48] <Zenexer> Let me check
[06:49] <Zenexer> Yeah, mine's owned by me
[06:49] <scarleo> Zenexer, great, thanks!
[06:49] <scarleo> 0700 ?
[06:49] <bobo37773> TJ-: I'm sure he'll be fine. Or we'll see him again haha
[06:51] <scarleo> Zenexer, chown: cannot access `.gvfs': Permission denied, and that is with root :/
[06:51] <Zenexer> O.o
[06:51] <Zenexer> Some sort of corruption, I suppose.
[06:51] <scarleo> How did this even happen?
[06:51] <tao_> hi does anyone have a windows VM and would kindly run a exe for me? i need the sys and inf file from it. Its a wifi driver
[06:51] <scarleo> yeah, guess so
[06:52] <tao_> i tried using unzip, cabextract and unshield they do not work
[06:52] <Zenexer> I'm no expert on disk recovery, but see what you can run for disk checks.
[06:52] <scarleo> trying reboot and forcefsck
[06:52] <Zenexer> If it's just a messed up permission issue, something basic should catch it.
[06:52] <bobo37773> tao_: Where's the file?
[06:53] <Zenexer> There was a specific option with fsck that would be liable to fix that, and I'm blanking out on what it was
[06:53] <scarleo> Zenexer, I also have a lot of files in home created  "0 Jul" ??
[06:53] <tao_> bobo37773,  http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/license.php?sn=5000
[06:53] <Zenexer> Sounds like it could be a bad disk, then.  Check the SMART status.
[06:54] <tao_> bobo37773, you can give some fake name + email
[06:54] <bobo37773> tao_: May take a second
[06:54] <tao_> sweet, thanks a bunch
[06:55] <TJ-> bobo37773: The support hardware page for the release installation instructions is a bit disingenuous on this: "Nearly all x86-based (IA-32) processors still in use in personal computers are supported, including all varieties of Intel's "Pentium" series. This also includes 32-bit AMD and VIA (former Cyrix) processors, and processors like the Athlon XP and Intel P4 Xeon. "
[06:55] <sikanderkhan> Hi! I just registered a proposal on Stack Exchange for a site like askubuntu for Python. Anyone interested please join...The link is: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43078/askpython?referrer=sggk-4wSDDWEQp6oQS-FHg2
[06:58] <bobo37773> TJ-: Yeah, I have no clue. Never used a pae kernel before.
[06:59] <bobo37773> tao_: Am I going to have to have winrar for this thing or is it self extracting?
[06:59] <TJ-> bobo37773: it was standard in the server variants for many years
[06:59] <tao_> bobo37773,  hopefully its self extracting
[06:59] <bobo37773> TJ-: I heard about it a long time ago but never needed to use it personally.
[06:59] <tao_> I am not sure, let me try 7zip
[07:00] <bobo37773> tao_: Guess we'll see.
[07:00] <bobo37773> tao_: How big is this file anyways?
[07:01] <taipres> apt-get install qemu-arm-static not working but is listed here http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/lucid/universe/updates/qemu-arm-static
[07:01] <taipres> so confused
[07:02] <tao_> 30mb
[07:02] <tao_> bobo37773,  its around 30 mb
[07:03] <bobo37773> tao_: ah okay we're getting close then. about 10 to go
[07:04] <TJ-> Scary isn't it? 30MB for a driver!
[07:04] <bobo37773> Right? What the heck is this thing hahaha
[07:04] <armdale> Maccer:fyi,  turned out the problem was the drive being NTFS - couldn't change permissions while mounted. unmounted the drive, edited drive's umask in fstab now it's all good . itunes server up and running  :)
[07:04] <TJ-> It's all the MS installer and bloatware crud they stick in those packages as so-called "value-add"
[07:05] <sikanderkhan> Hi! I just registered a proposal on Stack Exchange for a site like askubuntu for Python. Anyone interested please join...The link is: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43078/askpython?referrer=sggk-4wSDDWEQp6oQS-FHg2
[07:05] <tao_> bobo37773,  sorry didn't mean to cause so much trouble, i didn't know your internet connection is slow
[07:05] <DJones> sileht: Please don't advertise in the channel
[07:06] <DJones> sikanderkhan: That was for you, sorry sileht
[07:06] <sileht> DJones, :)
[07:06] <bobo37773> tao_: It's okay. Guess I need winrar too though
[07:07] <TJ-> I have the RAlink exe open in wine now - which files do you want?
[07:07] <sikanderkhan> Djones: I am not advertising....:)
[07:07] <caixa> is there anyway i can monitor what is stressing my graphics card?
[07:07] <caixa> it goes from 33c to 45c randomly
[07:07] <sikanderkhan> Anyone interested
[07:08] <dragec> Hi all. I have new HP8560W notebook with AMD chipset. Ubuntu installation seems impossible :((
[07:08] <bobo37773> tao_: Need to install this thing or what?
[07:08] <vasa1> quit
[07:08] <GorkaMusic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9fS1rAU9s&feature=colike espero que os guste con el corazon
[07:08] <vasa1> exit
[07:09] <dragec> After the installation, there's only right half of the screen visible, no icons, no nothing, just a purple background.
[07:09] <trimeta> vasa1: If you're trying to leave the channel, type "/part" (just the bit in the quotation marks, but include the slash).
[07:09] <dragec> Left half of the screen is black
[07:09] <Snowie> caixa, i dont think 45c is anything to worry about
[07:09] <TJ-> tao: which files, or which info, do you require from the RAlink ?
[07:09] <tao_> bobo37773,  can you just db click, i am hoping its a self extracting archive
[07:09] <tao_> if it is not then don't worry about it
[07:10] <caixa> Snowie, i know, but random 10c+ spikes arent normal for desktop use... dont have this issue in windows
[07:10] <bobo37773> tao_: It's not. But, TJ- Has the exe oped up already. Tell TJ- What you want.
[07:11] <caixa> i think it may be compiz and was wondering if i could monitor it anyway
[07:12] <tao_> TJ-, could i get the inf and sys file
[07:12] <TJ-> tao_: This could be a problem. The .inf is there... but its binary!
[07:13] <TJ-> tao_: Ahhh OK, looking at it, it's encoded as UTF-16 ... hmmm! how to read that as text!
[07:13] <tao_> TJ, its ok, is there also a bin file?
[07:13] <tao_> or bin files?
[07:14] <caixa> does lm-sensors give a temp readout for GPU?
[07:14] <semitones_tea> hellp! xorg is taking 50% of my 800mhz cpu?  how can i restart it
[07:15] <ste89> ciao
[07:15] <ste89> list
[07:15] <ste89> !list
[07:15] <TJ-> tao_: bobo37773 I like Linux! there's utils to convert these files
[07:16] <bobo37773> TJ-: Yeah. There's all kinds of interesting things you can do in GNU
[07:17] <semitones_tea> if i kill the Xrg proccess will it regenerate itself?
[07:17] <scarleo> Zenexer, ghostchick I did a forcefsck and everything is back to normal with my .gvfs folder :)
[07:17] <semitones_tea> Xorg
[07:17] <bobo37773> semitones_tea: Depends. If you want to unload X just log out and back in or restart your computer
[07:17] <tao_> Tj huh i am not sure if that is necessary, i am just trying to use it with ndiswrapper
[07:18] <Zenexer> scarleo: Yay!  Now double-check the SMART status to make sure your hard drive isn't about to die on you.
[07:18] <semitones_tea> bobo37773: is there a way to just restart it so i don't have to close the programs i have open? like when you restart unity by killing it
[07:18] <Pessimist> !manual
[07:18] <scarleo> Zenexer, it's fine, already checked, everything is green
[07:18] <bobo37773> semitones_tea: You can definitely do it like you said though (I have done it myself a few times). Just drop into a tty and kill the process.
[07:18] <semitones_tea> bobo37773: and it willjust regenerate? cool
[07:18] <Zenexer> scarleo: Awesome.  Might've just been a power outage or something.
[07:19] <bobo37773> semitones_tea: Kill X without closing applications? Not sure if that is possible. It may regenerate, it may not. Pretty sure it's your display manager that would handle that stuff not X itself
[07:19] <TJ-> tao_: I'm just pushing the .sys file up to my server and still working on decrypting the inf
[07:19] <xrfang> hi, can Ubuntu support memory hotplug under VMware ESXi
[07:19] <scarleo> Zenexer, I had the laptop running this night to complete a backup, might have something to do with that
[07:20] <Zenexer> That shouldn't do it, but who knows
[07:20] <Zenexer> xrfang: I *think* I recall reading that it can, but don't take my word for that.
[07:21] <semmmitones> !ping
[07:21] <M4rc3l> pong!
[07:21] <semmmitones> making sure i'm still on the internet, thanks
[07:21] <bobo37773> tao_: Are you absolutely sure there is not already firmware for your device?
[07:21] <tao_> TJ-, ok thanks
[07:22] <tao_> bobo37773, yeah i tried using the rt2800pci module, it does not work
[07:22] <tao_> i can see the access point but never able to connect
[07:22] <bobo37773> semmmitones: ubottu is a bot in case you didn't know
[07:22] <taipres> let me just say ubuntu team not updating repos for older versions is lame
[07:23] <taipres> very very very lame
[07:23] <tao_> bobo37773,  i am trying ndiswrapper as last resort
[07:23] <Zenexer> taipres: Thanks for volunteering :)
[07:23] <tao_> bobo37773, i saw some people posting the same problem but no real solution
[07:23] <MonkeyDust> taipres  did you have a support question?
[07:23] <bobo37773> tao_: So you can scan for access points and see them but you cannot associate? Did you try changing the encryption type on the router to isolate that as a possible issue?
[07:24] <MonkeyDust> taipres  when releases are !EOL, their repos are no longer updated, that is correct
[07:24] <tao_> bobo37773,  actually no, i just had it on wpa, never tried wep
[07:24] <taipres> MonkeyDust just saying you guys want ubuntu to be taken serious yet you don't even update repos, you essentially abandon majority of your users and force them to get latest ubunut
[07:24] <bobo37773> tao_: At least you would be able to make sure that wasn't an issue
[07:24] <taipres> that's not reliable and causes many issues being new
[07:24] <taipres> that's not the way imho
[07:25] <Zenexer> taipres: Windows XP is !EOL :o
[07:25] <taipres> last few version of ubunut at the very least should have full access to latest repo
[07:25] <Zenexer> In other words, not to be updated
[07:25] <taipres> windows xp doesn't have this problem, they release service packs
[07:25] <Zenexer> No they don't
[07:25] <Zenexer> Not anymore
[07:25] <taipres> yes they do
[07:25] <MonkeyDust> taipres  no rants here, please
[07:25] <taipres> in fact they released 3.
[07:25] <Zenexer> It wasn't EOL
[07:26] <bobo37773> taipres: Just use a rolling release distro or update yours to a newer version.
[07:26] <Zenexer> Ubuntu LTS releases are like XP
[07:26] <tao_> bobo37773,  yeah i should try that. but i should get the file from TJ- also, since he is doing so much work on that
[07:26] <Zenexer> They last several years and are updated for that timeframe
[07:26] <taipres> xp is heavily used thats why microsoft extended support till 2014
[07:26] <taipres> I think it's 2014
[07:26] <Zenexer> XP support has already been dropped
[07:26] <bobo37773> GNU != Windows so who cares
[07:27] <taipres> anyway my point is this, ubuntu doesn't change that much that past distros shouldn't have access to latest repo, but i'll look into rolling release, thanks
[07:27] <taipres> and I appreciate your guys hard work
[07:27] <Zenexer> taipres: LTS is what you want
[07:27] <MonkeyDust> taipres  not here please, this is the support channel
[07:27] <taipres> bobo majority of the world cares
[07:27] <taipres> most your users i'd wager are ex or current win users as well
[07:27] <hateball> !ot
[07:27] <taipres> Monkey i asked a support question
[07:27] <Zenexer> taipres: I'd personally appreciate you representing yourself and only yourself.  Do you know what an LTS release is?
[07:27] <L3top> taipres: You don't understand. It is ok. If you want to wander to #off-topic... I will explain it to you.
[07:28] <taipres> what don't i understand?
[07:28] <bobo37773> taipres: About the relationship between GNU and Windows? I don't. At all. I don't use Windows for anything. So it does not affect me at all.
[07:28] <L3top> its in #off-topic waiting for you
[07:28] <hateball> !lts
[07:29] <taipres> what does support mean, latest repo access?
[07:29] <Zenexer> There you go, taipres :)
[07:29] <Zenexer> Perfect solution.
[07:29] <Zenexer> So someone--a lot of someones--agree with you!
[07:29] <L3top> security updates... primarily.
[07:29] <taipres> l3top yeah that's not my focus but ok
[07:30] <L3top> of course not. You are a windows user.
[07:30] <L3top> it goes without saying.
[07:30] <Zenexer> Hey now
[07:30] <xrfang> Zenexer, I just tried with 10.04, although esx gave it more memory, it is not recognized until reboot
[07:30] <taipres> i'm a multi-os user who spends a lot of time in ssh, so please watch your tone
[07:30] <taipres> thanks
[07:30] <L3top> that is why there is a multi billion dollar anti-virus industry. Again. this is off topic
[07:31] <Zenexer> xrfang: I think you need a certain package; do a regex for esx
[07:31] <Zenexer> There are a bunch of vm packages
[07:31] <taipres> because macs don't get viruses, or linux for that matter? horrible reasoning imho, but thanks for the help i'll look at rolling release
[07:31] <taipres> have a nice day
[07:31] <bobo37773> taipres: No it doesn't mean that. If you want latest packages all the time forever then you should use gentoo or arch or I think debian has a rolling release I don't remember. Ubuntu is cyclic. If you want to always have the newer package versions then you should install the new release that comes out every six months or whatever it is now.
[07:31] <tao_> TJ-,  hey can i grab the files off of you? i am going to sleep soon. i will work on decoding the binary later if needed
[07:32] <taipres> bobo the 6 months thing won't work and i feel that's unreasonable to need to do that
[07:32] <Zenexer> Will you guys leave him alone, lol
[07:32] <Zenexer> What do you think you're going to achieve?
[07:32] <TJ-> tao_: Sure, had a couple fo problems with forgetting to allow public access to the server! here: http://iam.tj/files/
[07:32] <TJ-> tao_: I've still not converted the .inf though, so you get it as it is!
[07:32] <tao_> TJ-, its good, you helped me so much!
[07:33] <taipres> new version of anything tends to cause issues, whether it be install issues, upgrade, whatever, so hopefully ubuntu team takes another look at this issue
[07:33] <TJ-> tao_: don't pull the .sys yet, it hasn't finished uploading
[07:33] <taipres> thanks for the time gentlemen sorry if i installed anyone
[07:33] <TJ-> tao_: OK, it's done, you can grab them now
[07:33] <bobo37773> taipres: I'm not installed :p Take care
[07:33] <tao_> yeah just got it, TJ- thanks again!!!
[07:34] <TJ-> tao_: rt2860.inf: Little-endian UTF-16 Unicode text, with CRLF line terminators
[07:34] <tao_> are you working right now? or already off
[07:34] <Zenexer> I was installed a long time ago.
[07:34] <tao_> TJ-,  oh so you got it decoded
[07:34] <Zenexer> This was a highly controversial move.
[07:34] <TJ-> tao_: No, that's what it is now... we need to convert that to UTF8
[07:35] <Zenexer> UTF16 ftw
[07:35] <tao_> TJ-, i just opened in firefox, you can see it LOL
[07:35] <TJ-> tao_: done it. I used: iconv -f UTF-16 -t "UTF-8 rt2860.inf"
[07:36] <Zenexer> TJ-: That whole bit goes in quotes like that?
[07:36] <Zenexer> I would've thought it'd be without the quotes.
[07:38] <TJ-> Zenexer: yurg! don't know how that got like that, thanks for spotting it... it should be: "iconv -f UTF-16 -t UTF-8 rt2860.inf >rt2860.UTF8.inf"
[07:38] <diwa> tes
[07:38] <bobo37773> diwa: See you there
[07:38] <Zenexer> Much prettier, lol
[07:39] <Zenexer> Restart time!
[07:40] <tao_> sweet that iconv worked perfectly
[07:40] <TJ-> tao_: Good luck, hope that solves your issue with the AP
[07:41] <tao_> TJ-, diwa what is the difference between > and tee
[07:41] <tao_> TJ- how did you figure out the encoding of that file?
[07:41] <TJ-> tao_: ">" redirect output from stdout to the file named
[07:41] <diwa> ora ngerti aku, mbuh
[07:41] <TJ-> tao_: Linux has the "file" utility that will tell you the format of most files just do "file <path/to/file>"
[07:42] <tao_> TJ-, ok thanks for the tips, i used | tee -a file.inf but > would have been a lot easier
[07:42] <tao_> for some reason i kept on thinking > was only on windows
[07:43] <nopcode> hey
[07:43] <TJ-> tao_: and faster than 'tee' for very large files since the text doesn't have to go to the (slow) terminal as well
[07:43] <nopcode> i've put lucid-backports in my sources.list but it seems to be ignored
[07:43] <TJ-> tao_: ">" is a main-stay on Unixes
[07:43] <nopcode> packages are still "already current version"
[07:44] <tao_> TJ-, bobo37773 thanks for all the help : )
[07:44] <TJ-> nopcode: I presume you did "sudo apt-get update" after adding the repo?
[07:44] <tao_> 99
[07:44] <nopcode> TJ-: yeah
[07:44] <TJ-> nopcode: You check what's available using "apt-cache policy <package-name>"
[07:44] <Candlehawk> Hello, I have a minor issue. Should I just link to the forum thread, or should I describe the issue?
[07:45] <bobo37773> tao_: No problem. Hope you sort out your problem. I still think finding out what is wrong with the inline firmware is a better solution though
[07:45] <bobo37773> Candlehawk: Links are good
[07:45] <Candlehawk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12161744#post12161744
[07:45] <Zenexer> Candlehawk: I'd do both.
[07:45] <nopcode> TJ-: ok. not even something like nginx or apache2 seems to be available from backports
[07:45] <nopcode> TJ-: that cant be right
[07:46] <Candlehawk> Ok, so basicly to install 12.04 I had to use nomodeset on the install boot. Display settings is claiming my monitor is a laptop, I am on a desktop with two monitors. Display will not detect my other monitor.
[07:46] <Candlehawk> I have tried both the post-releace and default driver.
[07:47] <Candlehawk> Both in 11.10 and many distros before the other monitor has worked right out of the box.
[07:47] <bobo37773> Candlehawk: If you open nvidia-settings application does the second monitor show up?
[07:47] <nopcode> TJ-: oh it seems there actually isnt that much
[07:47] <Candlehawk> bobo37773: Would that be a command or an application to search for in the Unity search?
[07:48] <Elrondo> Hi
[07:48] <Candlehawk> bobo37773: Never mind, I need to stop asking questions that can be answered in less than 2 seconds on my part.
[07:48] <bobo37773> Candlehawk: Either should work. It is a gui application to set gui options for the proprietary video driver.
[07:48] <bobo37773> Candlehawk: Hahaha. No worries. We all had to start somewhere
[07:48] <nopcode> so, i have this vserver in OpenVZ.. my hoster says version upgrade of ubuntu (currently lucid) are not possible and will hang the system
[07:48] <nopcode> is that true?
[07:49] <wam> Why is typing a 'R' in xterm a dead key? I'm wondering about this for years and it's impossible to search with google for it.
[07:49] <Elrondo> I've some problems with flash with youtube in fullscreen mode, stops and stuttering
[07:49] <Elrondo> with a Radeon 4890
[07:49] <Elrondo> I don't have GPU accel in flash
[07:49] <Elrondo> how to solve this problem
[07:49] <nopcode> flash is deprecated
[07:49] <bobo37773> nopcode: Not sure on the direct answer to your question but I have always done and recommended clean installs between release cycles.
[07:49] <alexey> Hi all! I'm trying to build my cmake based project (I've migrated it from qmake). So I have a problem with include paths. My projects uses common sources (they were controlled by *.pri file when I used to use qmake). I've made *.cmake equivalent to them. All was good but common sources are in parent dir of course. And moc files from them going in strange CMake dir (something like that: __/__/3rdparty/qtpropertybrowser/src/moc_qttreepropertybrowser.cxx. Whe
[07:49] <alexey> re each __/ means ../ I think). Finally, here is my question: How I can in "right" and portable way add this moc files dir to include path from cmake?
[07:49] <geirha> wam: Sounds like you might have a readline binding for R
[07:50] <Elrondo> yes but I need it with youtube
[07:50] <Candlehawk> bobo37773: Problem is, I haven't 'started'. I swear that that didn't show up last time, which may be the case, or I could have been mistaken as last time I futsed with it, the time was as late as it is now for me (3:49) I'll be sure to come back if it doesn't work, but I think we got it
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> nopcode  for now, you can't upgrade directly to 12.04, that is correct, you'll have to wait until 12.04.1, on august 23, then it will be possible
[07:50] <Candlehawk> THanks everyone!!
[07:50] <Elrondo> Can I use GPU accel with gnash
[07:50] <geirha> wam: bind -p | grep R
[07:50] <Elrondo> if flash is deprecated
[07:50] <bobo37773> Candlehawk: Welcome
[07:50] <satish> hi
[07:50] <nopcode> MonkeyDust: even within openvz?
[07:50] <TJ-> nopcode: OpenVZ is a container-based Virtual Machine so what you run is what's on the host
[07:51] <nopcode> TJ-: yeah i know. so the upgrade mechanism cant do stuff like replacing the kernel image.
[07:51] <bobo37773> Flash works fine for me.
[07:51] <Zenexer> Could someone do me a huge favor?  nvidia blocks Lynx, and I can't get on X.  Could someone google "nvidia linux" and give me the download link to the older of the two AMD64 drivers?
[07:52] <Elrondo> and ? ....
[07:52] <__Hackuin__> Hi guy's.
[07:52] <nopcode> so it seems the backports are quite sparse
[07:52] <bobo37773> Zenexer: nvidia blocks lynx? How could that even be possible. Are you in a tty or inside X?
[07:52] <nopcode> so what can i do? install everything from source?
[07:52] <Zenexer> tty
[07:52] <Zenexer> They give 403 errors
[07:52] <Elrondo> I use fglrx and tested it, software rendering only
[07:52] <Zenexer> Worked fine from Chromium and Firefox
[07:53] <Guest8810> hi
[07:53] <Zenexer> Elrondo: Too late.  I already installed one of the nvidia drivers, with no way to uninstall it.
[07:53] <Guest8810> I have ubuntu server 12.04 LTS and LVM on raid 1
[07:53] <Guest8810> when i upgrade OS get this info http://paste.debian.net/183008/
[07:53] <Elrondo> that's easy nvidia to get flash works fine
[07:53] <Zenexer> ?
[07:54] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Weird. So are you trying to find a ppa or something? Wouldn't the older one be in your repos?
[07:54] <Guest8810> anyone know why have errors of lvm?
[07:54] <Elrondo> that's easy to get flash fine with nvidia card
[07:54] <TJ-> Guest8810: ouch!
[07:54] <Elrondo> but not with an ATI
[07:54] <Zenexer> bobo37773: The one in the repos is too new.  They just downgraded the one on the site.
[07:54] <Zenexer> Elrondo: Flash is the least of my issues.
[07:55] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Oh you built from source and now cannot uninstall? I can walk you through that if you want. Anyways which driver version do you want?
[07:55] <Guest8810> TJ-: dont understand
[07:55] <TJ-> Guest8810: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/876783
[07:55] <Zenexer> 295.59
[07:55] <Zenexer> I'm pretty sure that's what I was on (and it was working)
[07:55] <walent> Ubuntu messes up my wifi after downloading something thru firefox
[07:56] <Zenexer> walent: something as in anything?
[07:56] <bobo37773> Zenexer: x86 or amd64? It pointed me to x86
[07:56] <walent> yes
[07:56] <Zenexer> amd64
[07:56] <TJ-> Guest8810: See comment #19 of this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/452350
[07:56] <Zenexer> walent: What happens?
[07:56] <Guest8810> TJ-: ok thanks ...so its seriosly bug? I can obly wait for updates?
[07:56] <Zenexer> Just disconnects?
[07:56] <walent> Noone can use wifi till i restart router again
[07:56] <walent> It connects just doesn't work
[07:57] <Zenexer> ...that's an issue with your router, then.
[07:57] <walent> How can that be?
[07:57] <walent> Only happens on ubuntu
[07:57] <Zenexer> Routers are computers
[07:57] <Zenexer> They have bugs
[07:57] <Zenexer> Ubuntu has its own unique way of connecting and using WiFi
[07:58] <walent> :/
[07:58] <Zenexer> It might trigger bugs that Windows might not
[07:58] <Zenexer> And vice versa
[07:58] <TJ-> Guest8810: As I read the error reports are not fatal and update-grub succeeds; it's just that its' probing of the devices is getting confused
[07:58] <Zenexer> Though I suspect that your router is likely overheating.
[07:58] <Guest8810> TJ-: "dd"?? from where to where? and whats mean "hexedit"? never do it
[07:59] <walent> If it's not hot to touch it's ok?
[07:59] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Is this it ? -> wget 'http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.59/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.59.run'
[07:59] <Zenexer> It'd be relatively warm on top if it were overheating
[07:59] <Zenexer> Yeah, that looks like it; thanks
[07:59] <bobo37773> Welcome
[08:00] <walent> Maybe it is a BIT warm
[08:00] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Oh, do you know how to uninstall from source?
[08:00] <walent> But...
[08:00] <TJ-> Guest8810: OK, I'd suggest not touching it since that comment is aimed at experts. You're OK to ignore the warning for now I believe
[08:00] <walent> Zenexer: how come downloading with ubuntu software center works then
[08:01] <TJ-> walent: Try Googling for your router's model number and "overheating"
[08:01] <TJ-> walent: It could be a bug in the router firmware... it shouldn't fail like that
[08:01] <Zenexer> walent: I honestly have no idea; you're right in that seems very oddly correlated.
[08:02] <nardev> is there any way to trace back history of certain package, for example lshw?
[08:02] <Zenexer> in that it*
[08:02] <Guest8810> TJ-: ok thanks ... I woudl like to know... you think ubuntu server is ok for server? I know thah is from debian but its from debian sid... (unstable) so you think its not so newest os for servere? debian stable will be better? woudl like to know of your opinion
[08:02] <Zenexer> If it's not overheating, you're just triggering some sort of bug.
[08:02] <bobo37773> walent: I have had similar issues before. Totally get it. I usually just unplug and plug the router
[08:02] <TJ-> Guest8810: I run Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 on my servers
[08:03] <Zenexer> You could try updating the firmware, walent, but I rarely have any luck with that fixing problems.
[08:03] <Guest8810> TJ-: in your company or at home?
[08:03] <TJ-> Guest8810: both
[08:03] <walent> i'll try something.. but it's a telecom company branded router, i doubt there's a firmware update
[08:03] <bobo37773> walent: Here is one thing that can mess you up: If you have android devices connected to yoru router then make sure the router is not assigning multiple ip addresses to the same device
[08:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest8810  ubuntu server is a business product, obviously it is stable
[08:03] <walent> Oh?
[08:04] <TJ-> bobo37773: That shouldn't take down the entire router though
[08:04] <Zenexer> That'll just mess up some ARP stuff
[08:04] <TJ-> bobo37773: At most, the single PC would get confused
[08:05] <bobo37773> walent: If you do run into that issue then try assigning a static ip address to the device.
[08:05] <bobo37773> TJ-: For some reason some devices cannot connect back. Sounds crazy but true I assure you
[08:05] <walent> I'll try something from all the advices, thanks everyone
[08:05] <TJ-> bobo37773: In those cases I just clear the ARP cache
[08:05] <bobo37773> TJ-: Could be that my router is getting dated though too
[08:06] <bobo37773> TJ-: The arp cache of the router itself?
[08:06] <walent> bobo37773: That isn't the case, unfortunately
[08:06] <chuck> ok back
[08:07] <Guest8810> mhmm i have one question ...  what mean this option of install ubuntu server "... MAASS server " i dont remember at the moment full label but its on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and its second position. I was looking info about it but dont found any simply information about it... for example how proces of instalation is going after choise this option
[08:07] <Zenexer> Windows has its own DHCP mechanisms for releasing DHCP leases.  I'm unsure why other OSes don't use similar methods.  But I'm unsure that a non-Windows DHCP server will even understand the unusual codes.
[08:07] <TJ-> bobo37773: yes. Obviously the router is Linux!
[08:07] <bobo37773> walent: Try assigning static ip addresses to the devices in question and rebooting the router. That might work.
[08:07] <bobo37773> TJ-: How to empty the arp cache of the router though? I don't think mine has this feature.
[08:08] <TJ-> Guest8810: MAAS Metal As A Service
[08:08] <Zenexer> I don't think the router is much of anything... just a typical router.
[08:08] <walent> bobo37773: I'll try, but i'm not sure how to do that on android or ubuntu
[08:08] <Zenexer> Not Linux, unless it happens to be one of those Linux-in-a-box ones.
[08:08] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Did you fix your driver thing?
[08:08] <Zenexer> bobo37773: We'll find out in a few seconds, lol
[08:08] <wam> geirha: indeed - "R": self-insert
[08:08] <Zenexer> It's running
[08:08] <wam> geirha: bash, that is.
[08:09] <wam> geirha: /me will read about that. Thanks
[08:09] <bobo37773> walent: Nothing to do on Ubuntu ir android. You assign static ip addresses for your mac addresses on the router itself.
[08:09] <TJ-> bobo37773: "ip -ss neigh flush all"
[08:09] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Ah. Compile time hahahaha
[08:09] <Zenexer> Yup.
[08:10] <karlo> Morning! SInce i can't get any help from Mint crew i hope u guys can help me. During installation i probably did something wrong with partitioning as disk utility is showing another 8.2gb extended partition along with 8.2gb swap with error msg that it's misaligned by 1024 bytes? what did i do wrong and how fix it? Thanks in advance!
[08:10] <Zenexer> Actually, I don't believe it's compiling.
[08:10] <Zenexer> I believe it's just unpackaging.
[08:10] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Oh that's right. Closed source.
[08:10] <TJ-> karlo: No, that's perfectly fine.
[08:10] <Zenexer> That, and I don't have any compilers on here yet. :P
[08:10] <karlo> so there's nothing to be worried about?
[08:10] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Well, probably still have to build a module
[08:11] <bobo37773> TJ-: Interesting
[08:11] <TJ-> karlo: The Extended Partition contains the swap... so obviously it has to be as big as, if not bigger, than the swap partition inside it
[08:11] <Zenexer> Damn partition madness...
[08:12] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Partition issues?
[08:12] <karlo> Sorry but i'm new to all this. Why is utility reading it as error/misaligned?
[08:12] <TJ-> karlo: As to the misaligned message. That's a left-over from when disks were addressed using Cylinders, Heads, and Sectors and we tried to ensure that each partition started at the beginning of a track. Now we use Logical Block Addressing (LBA) the OS has no concept of where the heads of the disk are
[08:12] <bobo37773> TJ-: Isn't that just on the computer end? Is that what you meant (referring to the ip command)?
[08:12] <Zenexer> Yeah, read up :P
[08:13] <Zenexer> Not my partition issues
[08:13] <Zenexer> Someone else
[08:13] <TJ-> karlo: But the tools still show the warning
[08:13] <bobo37773> Ah gotcha
[08:13] <TJ-> bobo37773: On any Linux based device ... router or PC, doesn't matter
[08:13] <Zenexer> As for my nvidia issue: the installer just spewed out a ton of errors about restoring files
[08:13] <TJ-> Zenexer: did you run the output via 'tee' so we can look at them?
[08:14] <karlo> Ok, so i should move on and forged about it? i was about to do another fresh install. wish ubuntu would work without issues :(
[08:14] <TJ-> karlo: That's just a general Unix/Linux tool warning. Nothing specific to Ubuntu.
[08:14] <Zenexer> TJ-: I'm working entirely in the console.  First off, it was a GUI-ish program; these were dialogs.  Second, I'd have no way to copy/paste them.
[08:15] <TJ-> Zenexer: "<some program> 2>&1 | tee build.log | pastebinit"  :p
[08:15] <Zenexer> pastebinit?
[08:15] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Do you still have the source code if the original install? The bad one?
[08:15] <Zenexer> bobo37773: It wasn't source code.
[08:16] <Zenexer> Same idea.
[08:16] <bobo37773> Zenexer: Oh, I mean the original installer. Can't you uninstall it from the original .run crap
[08:16] <TJ-> Zenexer: If it's the nvidia .run installer, there are command line options you can pass to it to make it generate a complete log
[08:16] <Zenexer> It's supposed to be able to uninstall itself, but it doesn't work.
[08:16] <TJ-> Zenexer: I think you run it with "--help"
[08:16] <Zenexer> TJ-: Ah
[08:17] <TJ-> Zenexer: those command line options should give you some options for cleaning up the mess too, by forcing some things to happen
[08:17] <CommaCrazy> hey all, question, I have a machine that I am trying to access remotely via vnc. It works just fine but when I restart the machine I can not log into it remotely because on the machine itself the user is not selected (I'm guessing that that is the problem). Is there a command that I execute or is there a way to set it up so that it selects the user right away so that I could enter remotely trough vnc right away
[08:17] <karlo> Might give another shot at U 12.04. Had several issues with fans spinning randomly and lappy (acer 5750g) going quite warm. Disabled optimus on second attemept and heat was gone but annoying issue with went was still there while in win7 which was preinstalled and in mint 13 it's dead silent while browsing and in idle.
[08:18] <Zenexer> Well, I'm going to restart to see if it worked in the least bit.
[08:19] <bobo37773> I'm outta here. Take care everyone
[08:20] <Zenexer> Did not work.
[08:20] <Zenexer> Let's explore the command line options.
[08:21] <geirha> wam: self-insert means R should just produce itself (an R), so that's not where your problem lies
[08:22] <wam> geirha: well, "R" is the only letter there
[08:22] <wam> wrong
[08:22] <wam> geirha: you're right
[08:23] <geirha> wam: And this only happens terminal emulators, like gnome-terminal?
[08:23] <wam> geirha: gnome terminal works normally.
[08:23] <wam> geirha: I'm using zsh usually
[08:23] <geirha> wam: oh, only xterm?
[08:23] <wam> geirha: correct
[08:24] <wam> although gnome-terminal also runs zsh.
[08:24] <jyc> hello, my middle mouse button has recently stopped working (it doesn't even register in xev) - is there any way to fix this?
[08:24] <geirha> wam: Can you reproduce it with uxterm?
[08:24] <wam> geirha: no
[08:25] <wam> geirha: uxterm works
[08:25] <geirha> wam: xterm doesn't support multibyte character sets like utf8, so maybe it's got something to do with that
[08:34] <theadmin> !test
[08:34] <theadmin> Oh good, I thought I was disconnected... Well this is a dead channel
[08:35] <Zenexer> I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu
[08:35] <Zenexer> I think I bricked it.
[08:40] <extrasolar> Sup
[08:42] <spangler> can anyone help with permission denied issue with apache creating folders with php mkdir? root folder owned by www-data and drwxrwxrwx
[08:42] <extrasolar> need write access?
[08:42] <W4sp> Extracting  #ubuntu.freenode.log                                      Failed
[08:42] <W4sp> Extracting  W4sp.freenode.log                                         Failed
[08:42] <W4sp> 2 Failed
[08:43] <spangler> yes
[08:43] <Dr_Manhattan> im using the nvidia driver and I wanted to know where I set the resolution for console (no gui) mode?
[08:44] <agentgasmask> Dr_Manhattan: like on a tty (ctrl-alt-F1 and such)?
[08:45] <agentgasmask> Dr_Manhattan: There are kernal line options on boot. google for that. I think the prfix is vga=blablabla
[08:45] <Dr_Manhattan> agentgasmask, yes
[08:45] <Dr_Manhattan> agentgasmask, does that work with the nvidia driver?
[08:45] <madduck> http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Remote_Access_to_the_Ubuntu_11.04_Unity_Desktop says that to enable the remote desktop, I need to select the 'remote desktop' button in the internet and network category of system settings
[08:46] <madduck> but there is no such button on my system…
[08:46] <extrasolar> does this answer your question
[08:46] <extrasolar> http://superuser.com/questions/178641/ubuntu-10-04-console-resolution
[08:46] <Elrondo> I've installed Gnash but it dosen't detect any GPU support
[08:46] <Dr_Manhattan> extrasolar, I will try that, thank you
[08:46] <Elrondo> I use fglrx
[08:47] <Elrondo> how to use GPU VAAPI support in gnash
[08:47] <agentgasmask> Dr_Manhattan: I've done it on systems with nvidia cards in them. I think that tty is pushed up against the frame buffer, wich is a generic driver so to speak. Correct me if I'm wrong fellas.
[08:47] <macer1> is there some app to read qr codes from webcam?
[08:47] <extrasolar> what do you mean how do use?
[08:48] <extrasolar> macer1 I know of an online one
[08:48] <macer1> extrasolar: link it :P
[08:48] <extrasolar> macer1 here's some actual native software http://askubuntu.com/questions/22871/software-to-read-a-qr-code
[08:49] <subdesign> if i ps aux memcached several times , why i get always different pid ?
[08:49] <spangler> losing will to live
[08:49] <extrasolar> http://www.pcgeekblog.com/2011/02/how-to-read-qr-codes-using-your-webcam.html
[08:49] <extrasolar> http://miniqr.com/reader.php/
[08:49] <extrasolar> spanger what's up?
[08:49] <macer1> it would be awesome to have this in gnome/kde webcam photo makers :D
[08:49] <spangler> cant resolve this permissions issue
[08:49] <macer1> i.e. in Cheese
[08:49] <extrasolar> what have you tried
[08:50] <extrasolar> did you try chmod?
[08:50] <spangler> folder is owned by www-data (apache process)
[08:50] <extrasolar> using the terminal
[08:50] <spangler> ived chmod';ed to 777!
[08:50] <spangler> but apache still denied creating folded
[08:51] <extrasolar> have you tried #apache?
[08:51] <spangler> this is with recursive folder creation
[08:51] <spangler> if i need folder abc/def/ghi the first folder is OK but subfolders denied
[08:51] <spangler> this is not apache issue, it works on other OS
[08:52] <extrasolar> can you make the folders manually
[08:52] <spangler> i can with sudo
[08:52] <extrasolar> is apache open in root?
[08:52] <spangler> and one at a time, but not deeper
[08:53] <spangler> the problem is if i want to create a tree that does not exist, the first folder is ok but deeper get denied
[08:53] <spangler> so if i want to mkdir on abc/123/wer
[08:54] <spangler> abc gets created but 123 is perm denied
[08:54] <spangler> even though root folder is owned by apache process
[08:54] <Dr_Manhattan> ok, now how on earth do I boot up in console mode? This changes from version to version!
[08:54] <extrasolar> you cannot make a directory tree like that
[08:54]  * Dr_Manhattan bursts into tears
[08:54] <spangler> you can - php mkdir function
[08:55] <extrasolar> I see
[08:55] <vivek> hi
[08:55] <vivek> can someone tell me
[08:55] <extrasolar> Dr_Manhattan what do you mean?
[08:55] <extrasolar> when you turn on the computer it goes straight to a terminal?
[08:55] <Dr_Manhattan> extrasolar, I want to boot up without a gui
[08:55] <Dr_Manhattan> you know, old school linux stule
[08:55] <extrasolar> Errrr you can
[08:55] <spangler> thanks for trying , l8rs
[08:56] <extrasolar> boot as level 2 I guess
[08:56] <extrasolar> Why don't you just turn on the computer
[08:56] <Dr_Manhattan> are we back to /etc/inittab?
[08:56] <extrasolar> and press ctrl+alt+f1
[08:56] <extrasolar> we are yes
[08:56] <Dr_Manhattan> Noes
[08:56] <Dr_Manhattan> waste of resources
[08:56] <extrasolar> Are you using ubuntu minimal?
[08:57] <extrasolar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/
[08:57] <W4sp> Dr_Manhattan: I understand from your your previous messages that you do not want to have any graphical user interface, is that correct?
[08:57] <W4sp> extrasolar: PMFJI.
[08:57] <Dr_Manhattan> W4sp, I want it installed but I wont use it on the box directly
[08:57] <extrasolar> etc/default/grub
[08:58] <extrasolar> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[08:58] <extrasolar> then
[08:58] <extrasolar> sudo update-grub
[08:58] <Dr_Manhattan> I'll use x apps via an x server and an ssh connection
[08:58] <Dr_Manhattan> sweet
[08:58] <extrasolar> if you want to boot into the gui ust press e
[08:58] <Dr_Manhattan> well thats convenient
[08:58] <W4sp> great, extrasolar.
[08:59] <extrasolar> it worked on ubuntu server once I installed it to ubuntu desktop
[08:59] <extrasolar> blah
[08:59] <extrasolar> I mean It worked on ubuntu server
[08:59] <extrasolar> when I installed a gui and just wanted to go to a terminal
[09:06] <^BARrE|^> how do i install sdl
[09:06] <^BARrE|^> fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory
[09:07] <extrasolar> what are you trying to do?
[09:07] <extrasolar> I guess sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian
[09:07] <extrasolar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136765
[09:07] <^BARrE|^> installing a dosbox ipxnet work server
[09:08] <extrasolar> look here first
[09:08] <extrasolar> ah
[09:08] <Kvaks> A couple of years ago, using a 2TB "green" HDD in linux required that it'd be partitioned in a particular way to avoid extremely bad performance. Is this still the case?
[09:08] <extrasolar> have you tested it?
[09:09] <Dr_Manhattan> how do I allow a user to access the /dev/fb0
[09:09] <theadmin> Kvaks: I don't think so... Partitioning shouldn't affect performance whatsoever.
[09:09] <extrasolar> this sort of questions are probably better coming from you testing it and deciding
[09:09] <Dr_Manhattan> im not looking to chmod it every time
[09:10] <Kvaks> theadmin: These new (as of a couple of years ago, anyway) used a new block size that meant that (at the time) perfomance DID depend on partitioning details.
[09:10] <Kvaks> These new ...*HDDs*
[09:11] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: KERNEL=="fd0", MODE="0777", no?
[09:11] <Dr_Manhattan> um, no, I think I just need to add a user to the video group
[09:12] <theadmin> Oh, fb
[09:12] <theadmin> I thought you said "fd0" which is a floppy drive
[09:12] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: Then yeah, I think that's the case
[09:13] <^BARrE|^> i still get the error
[09:13] <Dr_Manhattan> oh for christs sajke
[09:13] <Kvaks> theadmin: Found an answer: "The Linux kernel has had specific support for the alternate sector sizes and offsets used by WD Advanced Format disk drives since version 2.6.31". So I guess it's no longer necessary to partition in a particular way.
[09:14] <Dr_Manhattan> so of course useradd -g or -G doesn't work
[09:14] <Dr_Manhattan> so how do I add the user to group video
[09:14] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: sudo adduser youruser video
[09:15] <Dr_Manhattan> thank you
[09:15] <Dr_Manhattan> yay!
[09:19] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: Is it working?
[09:19] <Dr_Manhattan> theadmin, yes, thank you. aspect ratio of console mode hasn't changed though
[09:20] <XL-Seti> holly hell
[09:20] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: I think framebuffer stuff should be configured in GRUB or something, it's not user-specific
[09:20] <theadmin> Dr_Manhattan: Might need to pass a kernel option. Or maybe tell your getty something.
[09:20] <XL-Seti> 1564 members.. well why I am here
[09:20] <Dr_Manhattan> hmm
[09:21] <savio> in /proc/swaps they says dm-0 is swap partition
[09:21] <savio> but in fstab they say /dev/hda7 is swap
[09:21] <XL-Seti> I have a problem installing gimp on ubuntu 11.04, may I post an image.
[09:21] <theadmin> XL-Seti: Yes, use http://imgur.com or any image sharing site of your preference.
[09:22] <XL-Seti> theadmin, thankyou, Here is the issue, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/screenshotjfj.png/ now I think something in my sources is messed up, but I can not tell where
[09:22] <^BARrE|^> do i need to reset after installing sdl?
[09:24] <^BARrE|^> plz someone help me
[09:24] <savio> sdl?
[09:24] <^BARrE|^> ipxserver.h:23:25: fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory
[09:25] <theadmin> XL-Seti: Hm... Please run the following in a !terminal: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install
[09:25] <XL-Seti> ok
[09:26] <savio> anyone?
[09:26] <Dr_Manhattan> yeah console mode is stuck in 640x480 with the nvidia drivers. How sad
[09:26] <Dr_Manhattan> perhaps I ought to go back to nouveau
[09:26] <^BARrE|^> can anyone help me?
[09:27] <luftikuss> ^BARrE|^: What is your problem?
[09:27] <^BARrE|^> trying to make a program but get this error
[09:27] <^BARrE|^> ipxserver.h:23:25: fatal error: SDL/SDL_net.h: No such file or directory
[09:28] <timfrost> ^BARrE|^:  have you installed the build-depends for the package you are compiling?  The missing files will be in -dev packages.   Specifically 'apt-file search SDL_net.h' reports libsdl-net1.2-dev: /usr/include/SDL/SDL_net.h
[09:28] <XL-Seti> theadmin, well bugger me, I swear I had run those already but hey it worked. I used && and not ; between them
[09:28] <^BARrE|^> i installed some sdl but still didnt work
[09:28] <XL-Seti> theadmin, thankyou m8
[09:28] <theadmin> XL-Seti: Yay
[09:29] <naftilos76> hi, can a mosfet's temperature of 80 celsius be considered safe not because of excess thermal loss but due to poor thermal cooling. The one i am talking about is rated at a max of 175 celsius. Any suggestions? Will such conditions of 80 celsius limit the semi's lifespan?
[09:29] <theadmin> XL-Seti: ; and && is about the same, by the way. Except "&&" means "only run the next command if the last one succeeded", ";" does the next one regardless.
[09:30] <XL-Seti> theadmin, I learnt something new
[09:30] <luftikuss> naftilos76: It is safe in the sense that you can operate this semiconductor for a very long time.
[09:31] <XL-Seti> theadmin, now I can move onto the other linux issues I have but I know you can't help me with wine
[09:31] <theadmin> XL-Seti: Might be able *shrug*
[09:31] <XL-Seti> theadmin, thanks again, I will stick around for a bit
[09:31] <theadmin> XL-Seti: PM me (wine is not a topic of this channel), though
[09:31] <XL-Seti> theadmin, trying to install 3dsmax9 or the latest
[09:31] <luftikuss> naftilos76: But the life(span) will be reduced compared to operating it at a lower temperature.
[09:31] <ThinkT510> !appdb | XL-Seti
[09:32] <naftilos76> luftikuss: this is my basic concern. If such conditions limit its' lifespan then i must find other way to cool it down
[09:32] <XL-Seti> thanks.
[09:32] <luftikuss> naftilos76: Not necessarily. This semiconductor may live for years.
[09:33] <XL-Seti> theadmin, ThinkT510 I have tried there, not much help sadly, I run projects on http://www.gtaforums.com/?showforum=265 so I need to be able to use 3dsmax myself.
[09:33] <timfrost> ^BARrE|^:  does 'sudo apt-get install  libsdl-net1.2-dev' give you all the missing files for your compile?
[09:33] <ThinkT510> XL-Seti: #winehqq could help you better
[09:33] <ThinkT510> XL-Seti: #winehq could help you better
[09:34] <theadmin> XL-Seti: Yes, try #winehq like ThinkT510 says
[09:34] <root> hello
[09:34] <XL-Seti> :)
[09:34] <demon_> hello everyone~
[09:34] <Guest87434> i am a irc virgin
[09:34] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | Guest87434
[09:34] <naftilos76> luftikuss: my target is well over 8 years . I do not know whether that is possible given an average of 15 hrs per day operation
[09:36] <XL-Seti> Guest87207, You can get banned on some networks for logging in as root, services or admin.
[09:38] <MrUmlaut> how do I encode "Non-ISO extended-ASCII English text" to UTF8 in a script? iconv says: conversion to `UFT8' is not supported.
[09:38] <_ericcc> anyone have any experience with ubuntu 12.04 with a PPC version?
[09:39] <ThinkT510> !ppc | _ericcc
[09:39] <luftikuss> naftilos76: A semiconductor whose maximumjunction temperature is rated a 175°C and is operated at a junction temperature of 80°C may well live for 8 years when being operated 15 hours a day. It may. Failure due to elevated temperaures depend among other things on the care of the manufacture and purity of the semiconductor material.
[09:39] <_ericcc> thanks
[09:40] <Gr3mlin> sup all, question bout java on ubuntu. anyone know how to install oracle-java 7?
[09:41] <chuck> yup
[09:41] <chuck> let me get the link
[09:41] <theadmin> Gr3mlin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7
[09:41] <theadmin> chuck: Beat you to it :P
[09:41] <Gr3mlin> thanks both chuck  and theadmin  :)
[09:41] <chuck> Gr3mlin: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[09:41] <chuck> haha np
[09:41] <Gr3mlin> lol
[09:43] <hackband> quick question: are there any serious performance implications by placing the /etc/hosts file on an NFS share?
[09:44] <luftikuss> How to use the WeeChat script iset.pl? :~$ sudo /usr/share/weechat/perl/iset.pl
[09:44] <hackband> I'm guessing it will be cached for frequent accesses, but need to be sure :)
[09:44] <luftikuss> sudo: /usr/share/weechat/perl/iset.pl: Befehl nicht gefunden
[09:44] <chuck> hmm
[09:44] <luftikuss> (Command not found)
[09:44] <chuck> ja ich verstehe
[09:44] <naftilos76> luftikuss: thanks for the advice man
[09:44] <chuck> kein idee
[09:46] <theadmin> luftikuss: Weechat's supposed to autoload scripts.
[09:50] <sikanderkhan> hi
[09:51] <yaro> hi, I have a problem my secondary hdd(with windows) is being discovered by Ubuntu, but Grub sees only hd0 no hd1, so I can't boot into windows
[09:51] <yaro> also the bios doesn't see the secondary hdd(probably because the ssd is in cdrom bay)
[09:51] <ducktype> hi how can i check for missing files in installed packages with apt?
[09:52] <ducktype> i've deleted some files and i don't know which ones...
[09:52] <ducktype> i want to "repair" installed packeges, possible?
[09:53] <yatta> i am not sure but if you apt-get install it again...
[09:53] <alankila> ducktype: you can try a program called debsums, if the md5 sums are there
[09:53] <alankila> you can apt-get --purge remove it, and then install it again, which should restore even files deleted under /etc
[09:53] <alankila> because purge completely eliminates everything, even configuration
[09:53] <theadmin> ducktype: Try "apt-get -f install". I have no idea what that does, but that fixes a lot of problems with APT, might as well check for missing files.
[09:54] <luftikuss> theadmin: And how can I accomplish that WeeChat will autoload this script?
[09:55] <alankila> theadmin: it doesn't help in this case. It allows apt to try correcting some dependency-related issues using some likely solution it thinks might fix them
[09:55] <theadmin> luftikuss: Well, normally, scripts have to be executable. Is that the case?
[09:55] <alankila> theadmin: so for instance if you have a partially configured package with a missing dependency on your system, apt-get -f works out that it needs to install these dependencies
[09:55] <theadmin> alankila: I see.
[09:56] <k1l_> luftikuss: put them into the weechat folder or the plugins folder in the weechat folder in the /home ?
[09:56] <k1l_> luftikuss: i bet the documentation tells the right spot
[09:57] <k1l_> luftikuss: / bullgard6  http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_quickstart.de.html#plugins_scripts
[09:57] <alankila> I regularly run debsums -c to check that I have all files installed, and debsums -ce to remind me what config files under /etc I have modified
[09:57] <luftikuss> theadmin: No. At least my mc does not show it as executable.
[09:57] <theadmin> luftikuss: Well, chmod a+x it then.
[09:58] <alankila> debsums isn't perfect though... I think that when applications change while installed and do not ship md5 lists for their files, it gets out of sync with reality.
[09:58] <usuario_> NTNNNNNNNNNNNGMNGHHHHHLLLLHKHHKHKLHHL
[09:58] <usuario_> GVGGHÑH
[09:59] <usuario_> VVVV VBNVMN
[09:59] <k1l_> usuario_:   stop that
[10:01] <justin__> [11:59:28]justin@justinpc:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo apt-get -f install
[10:01] <justin__> Reading package lists... Done
[10:01] <justin__> Building dependency tree
[10:01] <justin__> Reading state information... Done
[10:01] <justin__> Correcting dependencies... Done
[10:01] <justin__> The following extra packages will be installed:
[10:01] <FloodBot1> justin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <root____2> testing irssi.
[10:02] <k1l_> root____2: dont run irssi from the root user
[10:02] <root____2> I was thinking the same
[10:02] <root____2> Thanks you
[10:03] <justin__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139315/ -> please help
[10:04] <DarkLobster> Hi. When I connect(ssh) to another computer and upload files the files get username:username as owner, which is ok. But is it possible make another group the default instead of username? I'd like to have username:www-data, as I'm uploading files to the webserver on that computer.
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> justin__: a summary if the problem nit just a paste. is a good idea
[10:05] <alankila> Is there a trick to forcing, say, apt-get to download a package that is already installed because I want to do a 'dpkg -i --force-confmiss' on the file?
[10:05] <alankila> or do I really have to dig into the archives manually?
[10:05] <justin__> i think that paste explains itself but okay i installed wine 1.5 and now it just wont remove
[10:06] <justin__> if i try apt-get remove --purge wine* it asks me to apt-get -f install and if i apt-get -f install it gives me that paste
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> not everyone has a web browser :)
[10:06] <justin__> theres always lynx @Dr_Willis
[10:07] <chuck> Lynx is L33t
[10:07] <chuck> fastest webrowser ever...no pictures or pop ups, and stupid advertisement that starts playing in the background
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> take me forever to get to a paste i may jnow nothing about.. is also an issue.. im sshing from my cell.
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> id check askubuntu.com about the carch 22 type apt problem. i recall sime trick
[10:14] <ryancoleuk> hi - im trying to install the original-awk package which i need for MySQL to run. when i try install it i get the error "E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution)." - however when running this i get the error " subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[10:14] <ryancoleuk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:14] <ryancoleuk>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[10:14] <ryancoleuk> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[10:14] <ryancoleuk> i seem to be stuck in a loop - can anyone assist?
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> libc - is a critical lib. where is this awk package from?
[10:15] <ryancoleuk> apt-get install original-awk
[10:15] <ryancoleuk> basically MySQL wont start and says it needs
[10:16] <ryancoleuk>  "/etc/init.d/mysql: line 61: awk: command not found"
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if you dont have some bad deb files downloaded
[10:16] <ryancoleuk> "/etc/init.d/mysql: line 86: logger: command not found"
[10:16] <extrasolar> reinstall mysql
[10:16] <ryancoleuk> on other servers i've got with mysql running fine i can run the command awk and logger just fine
[10:16] <ryancoleuk> apt-get install mysql ?
[10:16] <extrasolar> from the repos
[10:16] <k1l_> maybe some $PATH problem?
[10:17] <extrasolar> sudo apt-get install mysql-server I think
[10:17] <ryancoleuk> ok let me take a snapshot (as it's VM) and ahve a go
[10:18] <extrasolar> are you using ubuntu server or somehing?
[10:18] <ryancoleuk> yeap
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> hmm. sounds like there may be deeper issues. that error says a issue in the preinit scripts..
[10:18] <ryancoleuk> we had a HDD issue with this server
[10:18] <ryancoleuk> and i had to run fsck
[10:18] <ryancoleuk> then this started
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> id also suggest cleaning out the cached .debs and redownloading them
[10:18] <ryancoleuk> (mysql not starting)
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> check dmesg output also. could be hd issues still happening
[10:19] <extrasolar> right
[10:21] <Dr_Manhattan> I can't fine any way to get my framebuffer to change resolution with the proprietary nvidia driver
[10:21] <^BARrE|^> can anyone help me get windows share working?
[10:21] <Dr_Manhattan> nothing works
[10:22] <extrasolar> ^BARrE|^: what's the problem
[10:22] <^BARrE|^> i click on a shared windows folder and it says unable to mount share
[10:22] <DarkLobster> Hi. When I connect(ssh) to another computer and upload files the files get username:username as owner, which is ok. But is it possible make another group the default instead of username? I'd like to have username:www-data, as I'm uploading files to the webserver on that computer. (Yes, the ssh account is a www-data member)
[10:23] <luftikuss> k1l_: I managed to load successfully the script weeget.py. I still don'tknow how to use it. http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WeeChat: "Möchte man Veränderungen an der Konfiguration durchführen, sollte das wesentlich komfortablere Skript iset.pl, genutzt werden." But how to use it?
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> luftikuss: weechat had some good docs.. put in the proper .weechat/python/ dir then /python load weeget.py
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> then /weeget help
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> i think.  let me look
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> just /weeget ;)
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Then look in the status window
[10:26] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: '  weechat =!= | weeget: unknown action "help".'
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> help is default action for it now it seems
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> weechat tip - tab completion works most everywhere in it
[10:28] <k1l_> /weeget list
[10:28] <gokul> Hello I am getting this error while installing packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139329/
[10:29] <k1l_> and for the perl script i would make a perl/autoload subfolder in .weechat and put the perl scripts in it
[10:29] <luftikuss> k1l_ , Dr_Willis : I've got it. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[10:29] <Dr_Manhattan> ok im trying this with the nouveau driver but it doesn't seem to be able to open videos now
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> weechat takes a bit of learning. reread and reread the guides a few times ;)
[10:30] <extrasolar> gokul After you get that error, try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error. Then try apt-get upgrade again, apt-get -f install back and forth until only the package that has the error is left.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Manhattan:  you mean in X - no videos
[10:31] <Dr_Manhattan> I mean in console mode, no videos
[10:31] <Dr_Manhattan> with -vo fbdev
[10:31] <tushar> testing irssi (but this time not on root)
[10:31] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: I will. --  I am using this program for the first day today.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> is the nvidea fb module loaded? checked out the fbset command?
[10:32] <Dr_Manhattan> it works with the nvidia driver, but I can't change the console resolution
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> framebuffer for video playback has some issues i recall.
[10:32] <Dr_Manhattan> is there another fb module I need to load when using nouveau?
[10:32] <Dr_Manhattan> I apologize I had no idea
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> no idea. framebuffer is a bit of a old school dinoasur
[10:32] <extrasolar> apology not accepted :P:
[10:33] <Dr_Manhattan> and I know of no other option of playing video in console
[10:33]  * Dr_Manhattan bursts into mucusy tears
[10:33] <Dr_Manhattan> ooooh fbdev1 works
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> even geexbox switchedc to using the x server and not the framebuffer
[10:33] <Dr_Manhattan> ooooh fbdev2 works
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> i tend to turn off the fb. ;)
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> I recall the fb couldent do widescreen modes ages back.
[10:34] <Dr_Manhattan> I just want to set it to 1280x800
[10:35] <Dr_Manhattan> its supported, via hwinfo --framebuffer
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> modes the fb can use may be limited.  so watch out
[10:36] <Dr_Manhattan> yeah I just cant get the damn mode to change
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> tried the fbset command?
[10:36] <gokul> extrasolar, will try that
[10:37] <Dr_Manhattan> I have not
[10:37] <sajanek> hello all
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> lot of the fb tools are not installed by default
[10:37] <sajanek> I have a question about reprepro
[10:38] <sajanek> I want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?
[10:39] <zcoob> Hi, i have a problem with grub2 and my windows 7 partition. grub redirects me fine to the windows boot loader but then i get an error with status 0xc000000e and it stops. i can fix this using the win7 dvd repair function but that is kinda not what i want. i want the problem to not even occur. any suggestions?
[10:40] <gokul> extrasolar, that is not fixing it. Will you advice doing apt-get upgrade -f ?
[10:40] <alankila> barf. what a complex interplay between libvirt-bin, dnsmasq and resolvconf package. libvirt-bin drops a file that tells system dnsmasq to not bind the virtual network interface (if you have one) so that multiple dnsmasq's are possible. dnsmasq ordinarily looks up from resolv.conf, unless you have configured dnsmasq to not use that file. In which case resolvconf replaces your resolv.conf file with one that looks up from dnsmasq
[10:40] <extrasolar> yes
[10:40] <Dr_Manhattan> sigh
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> snort
[10:41] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, you know, one of the things i HATE about linux is when you follow the dir's and it tells you to go f yourself.
[10:41] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, how do I use fbset to set my graphics mode
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> framebuffer is a dinoa0saur of an idea.  its never worked well
[10:42] <alankila> these debian package scripts are smart -- maybe too smart
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> been ages since ive done more then just turn fb off.
[10:42] <sajanek> any hint with reprepro?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> id have to look at the fbset man pages
[10:43] <alankila> but finally I understand where the 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' line came from that gave me trouble last time some packages updated and resolv.conf file got regenerated
[10:43] <alankila> and now I finally understand why it vanished which resulted in empty resolv.conf :-/
[10:44] <sajanek> I want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> fbset has a -xrex and yres option it seems
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> fbset --help  ;)
[10:44] <Dr_Manhattan> Yes, I'm using that
[10:44] <Dr_Manhattan> and man
[10:44] <Dr_Manhattan> and help
[10:44] <Dr_Manhattan> and it tells me to go f myself
[10:44] <sergiu[1]> what is better for instalation, ubuntu desktop or alternative cd
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> how vague.[
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> sergiu[1]:  either install the same system
[10:45] <Dr_Manhattan> wait, I got it
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> sergiu[1]:  depends on your neeeds and system specs
[10:46] <Dr_Manhattan> No I dont
[10:46] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, fbset only changes the size of the window within the monitor
[10:46] <Dr_Manhattan> it doesn't change the size of the console itself
[10:47] <FishFace> Ugh. After a lot of updates, my system info says I am now 32 bit OS Type. Have always been 64. 12.04 LTS
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Manhattan: sounds like your monitor is not scaling smaller images. just showing them at their original res.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> perhaps
[10:47] <Dr_Manhattan> the monitor only shows what is fed to it.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall ever getting widescreen type modes working on the fb consoles
[10:48] <Dr_Manhattan> I cannot change the mode at all
[10:48] <Dr_Manhattan> any mode
[10:48] <Dr_Manhattan> with nouveau it automatically sets it at the max - 1680x1050
[10:48] <Dr_Manhattan> with nvidia it's locked @ 640x480
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> if the monitor is fed a 640x480 then it would show a little image in the middle.. if it was set to scale it would blow it up, from what i recall
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> whats the exact chipset anyway?
[10:50] <Dr_Manhattan> the monitor is fed a 640x480 with nvidia-current, and it doesn't show a tiny image in the middle of the monitor
[10:50] <Dr_Manhattan> the card is an nvidia 8400gs
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> so it is scaleing the image
[10:50] <Dr_Manhattan> if I use nouveau and play the movie with fbdev2 it'll scale it
[10:51] <Dr_Manhattan> my problem is that I can't change the resolution of the console
[10:51] <Dr_Manhattan> I need it to be 1280x800 with the nvidia driver.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> if you are using x - why do you need the console?
[10:51] <Dr_Manhattan> since the fbdev original driver doesn't work on nouveau and fbdev2 wont do fullscreen
[10:52] <Dr_Manhattan> I leave the box in console mode and only use X for a few things over ssh
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> sounds weird. ;)  i was going to suggest the 'text' mode so neither noveau or nvidia get loaded, and see what happens
[10:53] <Dr_Manhattan> i load with text. Itll load the module but still boots into console
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> it is using the right fb module? i recall the fb nvidia one being blacklisted once. and defaulting to a fbvesa
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> but this is stuff from 3+ yrs ago
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> im rinning out of ideas. ;) and i cant test becuase im on my cell, sshed to my pc.
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> on 12.10 here. nvidia card.. fbvesa is the only fb module loaded i see...
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> and the nvidia module is loaded also, from lsmod output
[10:59] <alankila> *sigh* I really wish sometimes that linux had one central configuration database that multiple programs would read, all understanding the same config keys. So that for instance name server lookups aren't interplay of nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf, and your actual name server daemon's config.
[10:59] <alankila> just a single file that declares what the upstream servers are, and what other host names must also be resolvable by clients, and if you actually have a name server that other people can access. Simple as that.
[11:00] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, nvidia and vesafb are both loaded
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Manhattan:  the nvidiafb module may be what you need. its blacklisted by default it seems
[11:00] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, all I really need is to change the console resolution
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| alankila
[11:01] <Dr_Manhattan> weak
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> perhaps unblacklist it
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> since you are using the vesafb as far as i can te
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> tell
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> but i bet it was blacklisted for a reason ;)
[11:02] <Crooper> how do you disable the "keyring" thing (that I never setup in the first place) from opening up when I try to connect to Ubuntu1
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Crooper:  askubuntu.com has several guides on it.
[11:03] <Crooper> ok thnx Dr_Willis
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> well 'posts/questions/answers'
[11:03] <Dr_Manhattan> lovely.
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ;) easier to read and see the images
[11:09] <Dr_Manhattan> so can anyone PLEASE help me change my console resolution with the nvidia driver?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> did you try out the nvidiafb module?
[11:13] <xalims> I changed my login password few days back. Now when I try (Graphically) to update or anything that requires password, it does not recognizes my new password. Please help.
[11:13] <foobArrr> what is the package name of "Disk Utility"?
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> foobArrr  palimpsest
[11:13] <wodim> hi, how do i make it so the system doesn't suspend when the battery is critically low?
[11:13] <foobArrr> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> wodim  system settings, power
[11:13] <xalims> wodim: Go to power properties
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> xalims:  normal 'sudo apt-get update' works however?
[11:14] <theadmin> foobArrr: I think it's gnome-disk-utility
[11:14] <wodim> it lets me "hibernate" or "power off"
[11:14] <wodim> that's far from "do nothing" :p
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> wodim: what ubuntu release?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[11:15] <nerdshell> wodim: why would you want to do that, if battery is critically low so that the system goes on hibernation, you can't do anything without discharging it !
[11:16] <xalims> I have changed my password but system services still requires my old password. Please help
[11:17] <wodim> nerdshell: my battery is broken and it will constantly report it's 0% charged
[11:17] <wodim> Dr_Willis: latest
[11:17] <xalims> Dr_Willis: GRAPHICALLY
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> ;) easier to read and see the images
[11:17] <nerdshell> xalims:  how did you change your password? did you use the "chpasswd" command ?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> xalims:  so the console/sudo works.. gui dosent.. that is very .. weird
[11:18] <xalims> nerdshell: Graphically from user management
[11:18] <wodim> i could do that with gnome-tweak-tool back when i used gnome3... will that work on unity?
[11:18] <nerdshell> xalims:  how many users do you have registered on your machine ?
[11:19] <nerdshell> wodim: no, I don't think so.
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> i thought 'hibernate' was disabled by default these days
[11:19] <xalims> nerdshell: just root and me.
[11:19] <ryanwong1030> hi.
[11:20] <xalims> You know what.. forget it
[11:20]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[11:21] <ryanwong1030> is gnome3 better than gnome2?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> ryanwong1030  depends on what you like
[11:22] <xalims> ryanwong1030: Depends
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ryanwong1030:  gnome2 is basically dead.. so yes. ;)
[11:22] <ThinkT510> ryanwong1030: depends on what you prefer
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Gnome3 is  a big change. with some neat ideas.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> if you wand the classic type old skool desktop theres xfce and lxde
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> both are very nice
[11:23] <ryanwong1030> hello ,guys . i am new here :)  i am using gnome2 all the time.
[11:23] <blubee> guys i created a .desktop file to lauch eclipse, the desktop file shows up in the finder but clicking it does nothing, could it be that i put my eclipse folder in ~/.eclipse
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> ryanwong1030  then you're using an old ubuntu version
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> time to move away from gnome2 and move on.
[11:23] <blubee> it launches from command line but the desktop file will not launch
[11:23] <xalims> ryanwong1030: That's Good unless there is any need for Gnome3
[11:24] <ryanwong1030> i'll try gnome3 .maybe it's a good choice.
[11:24] <nerdshell> wodim: try this : sudo nano /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla
[11:24] <nerdshell> and look for the lines : Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes
[11:24] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, i had to use sw scaling in mplayer, although I do have to adjust the video to funny sizes b/c of the screwy aspect ratio of the default vesafb console - thank you very much for your help
[11:24] <xalims> nerdshell: Whats this for??
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> unity is getting some neat features comming up in the next release. and in 12.04 its nice
[11:25] <wodim> nerdshell: there was no such file
[11:25] <blubee> anyone have any clue?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Manhattan:  i recall geexbox  having similer issues
[11:25] <bonhoeffer> i just upgraded to 12.04, but my display resolution is really low and display can't change it. i have the new(er) intel chip with onboard graphics
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> no hardware acell = not good for me
[11:26] <Dr_Manhattan> Dr_Willis, well im just making my server play some big bang theory in the background
[11:26] <squaregoldfish> In the Gnome desktop (11.04) I notice the power button is sometimes red. Does anyone know what it signifies?
[11:27] <nerdshell> bonhoeffer: did you check if there was any proprietary drivers available ?
[11:27] <blubee> this is my eclipse.desktop file located in applications folder : http://pastebin.com/MMtnKhvv
[11:27] <xalims> squaregoldfish: It means that your system REQUIRES a reboot
[11:27] <bonhoeffer> nerdshell, no, but i'm not sure how to find out
[11:27] <bonhoeffer> is there a dmsg grep that i can run
[11:27] <idefix2> how can you switch to a different sound system in linux?
[11:27] <squaregoldfish> @xalims Oh, OK. It's odd because I have installed any updates.
[11:28] <nerdshell> bonhoeffer: open the dash and look for additional drivers
[11:28] <bonhoeffer> dash?
[11:28] <nerdshell> bonhoeffer: the "windows" button, and then type additional drivers
[11:29] <bonhoeffer> got it -- thanks!
[11:29] <blubee> anyone have any idea about the .desktop file?
[11:29] <xalims> blubee: What about it?
[11:29] <bonhoeffer> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[11:29] <Plumblum_> evning gents, wondering if somone would lend a noobie a hand with setting up a webserver under ubuntu
[11:29] <blubee> xalims i created a .desktop file put it in the appropriate folder, the icon shows up but clicking on it doesn't launch the program. if i launch from the command line it works
[11:30] <WormFood> what is the difference between 12.04 and 12.10? (other than the obvious fact that 12.04 is LTR, what are the technical differences?)
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> blubee  try right clicking on the icons and 'run as', or 'run in terminal' or so
[11:30] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to find proprietary drivers?
[11:30] <bonhoeffer> i'm sure this can work?
[11:31] <rustler770> blubee: eclipse broken I switched to netbeans
[11:31] <blubee> there is no run as option when i right click fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:31] <Dr_Manhattan> hey whats the pulse audio console mixer?
[11:31] <Dr_Manhattan> the equiv to alsa-mixer
[11:31] <ryanwong1030> blubee: i prefer cui.
[11:31] <xalims> blubee: Give the right permissions. Maybe helpful.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:32] <blubee> i used touch to create the file
[11:33] <Plumblum_> i sucessesfully got apache up and running, but i cant figure out why im not allowed to view the page. All im getting is Forbidden You donät have permission to axcess whatever on this server
[11:33] <mouthwash> can somebody spare 5min to help me with a nobe problem?
[11:33] <Plumblum_> acces *
[11:33] <theadmin> mouthwash: What's a nobe?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> !ask > mouthwash
[11:34] <mouthwash> theadmin, i just need to alter the startup script for doom3 to fix the sound, but i can't find the script. i'm a nobe :)
[11:35] <mouthwash> theadmin, or noob, whatever
[11:35] <theadmin> mouthwash: Oh, wouldn't know that, sorry.
[11:35] <WormFood> so noob, he can't even spell "noob"
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> how did youinstall doom3 ?
[11:37] <mouthwash> Dr_Willis, mounted the iso-files and unpacked them, it should be in /usr/Games, but i can't find them there
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> mouthwash:  case is imporntant.. and it may be /usr/local/games
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> and if you are using the official game and installer. it may have had an option to install to your home  ;)
[11:38] <mouthwash> Dr_Willis, actually, i just found them, apparently it's /usr/local/... maybe i should read man find again...
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Does it work from  the cli? 'doom3'  or how do you launch it
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> sudo updatedb, then locate doom     ;)
[11:39] <xalims> mouthwash: Why don't you do for wine or I think doom3 is also available as opensource.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Theres some enhanced updated doom3 engines out i belive. they use the data files from the game
[11:40] <mouthwash> Dr_Willis, i launch it from terminal as you said, but the sound lags terribly, i tried a fix that broke it completely, so i'm trying another that might work
[11:40] <TJ-> Plumblum_: Is it an HTML page you are trying to view?
[11:40] <mouthwash> xalims, it works beautifully, apart from the sound, so i'm gonna try to fix that before trying wine, but thnks for the suggestion
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> mouthwash:  best would be a gpl'd new doom3 game engine.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> !Games
[11:41] <Plumblum_> TJ-, yes, but i maybe have a solution, maybe it has to do with the permissions for the folder im trying to use as my web  root folder
[11:42] <Plumblum_> since im trying to keept it in /home/plumblum/sitename
[11:43] <^BARrE|^> wats a good win xp emulater
[11:43] <blubee> man what is going on w/ this application ...
[11:44] <mouthwash> ^BARrE|^ wine, or virtualbox with win xp
[11:44] <TJ-> Plumblum_: Yes, that would be what I was going to suggest. If the web-server is running as the user "www-data" as is usual, then if you want that account to acces files in your home, you need to set the group that owns that directory and its files to "www-data". So, from a terminal you'd do "chown -R :www-data /home/plumblum/sitename" - don't miss out the important colon : before www-data
[11:44] <^BARrE|^> where i get virtualbox
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> !Vbox
[11:45] <Plumblum_> TJ-, that seems like an easy solution :) thx
[11:45] <lee8oi> ^BARrE|^,  wine works pretty good for a lot of apps. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And its a bit more Native. Virtualbox requires an entire winxp installation installed in it. Wine is an API
[11:46] <^BARrE|^> do i need win xp cd
[11:46] <Dr_Manhattan> what is the name of the app that controls the sound levels and inputs and the such?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> for vbox.. you need the os.. yes
[11:46] <lee8oi> for virtualbox yes
[11:46] <lee8oi> wine no
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> ^BARrE|^:  what do you need to run?
[11:47] <^BARrE|^> games
[11:47] <ganster> asking about  website developing  application
[11:47] <^BARrE|^> like alpha centauri and hamachi
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> ^BARrE|^:  what do you need to run?   moee specifically?
[11:47] <Dr_Manhattan> Please? anyone? what is the app called? all I see in the app itself is "Sound"
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> most older games can run well in wine.
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> sid meirs alpha centauri. does work i recall
[11:48] <^BARrE|^> i need hamachi a vpn to be installed
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> no idea what hamachi is.
[11:48] <ganster> asking about  website developing  application
[11:48] <nooitgedacht> Hi, my T60 started shutting down recently without me doing anything. i'm running xubuntu 12.04 – which logfile would contain information on reason for halting? Cheers!
[11:48] <Dr_Manhattan> if you click on the speaker icon, then click on sound-settings. I need the name of the app that pops up please
[11:48] <Dr_Manhattan> pretty please with sugar on top
[11:48] <TJ-> Dr_Manhattan: You may be able to find out from a terminal whilst the applet is running by listing the processes: "ps -ef"
[11:48] <Dr_Manhattan> and a cherry
[11:49] <Dr_Manhattan> and my firstborn son
[11:49] <Dr_Manhattan> and a kidney
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Manhattan:  run it and check top/htop output perhaps
[11:49] <Dr_Manhattan> all I saw was "pulseaudio"
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use pavcontrol or was it pauvcontrol
[11:50] <Plumblum_> TJ-, still no luck :/ how do i define wich site is the "default" one ? i disabled the ones im not using as recommended in the server guide
[11:50] <rypervenche> pavucontrol
[11:50] <ganster> asking about  website developing  application
[11:50] <ganster> asking about  website developing  application
[11:51] <TJ-> Dr_Manhattan: I think you'll find it's "gnome-control-center"
[11:51] <Dr_Manhattan> neither is that, it isnt installed
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> pavucontrol has moar features
[11:51] <TJ-> Plumblum_: I assumed you'd already linked your home directory by enabling userdir's in the apache configuration?
[11:51] <Dr_Manhattan> TJ-, thank you my friend. Should I send the kidney or the baby first?
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> gnome-volume-control perhaps
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[11:53] <Dr_Manhattan> not found - tj was right
[11:53] <Plumblum_> TJ-, well kinda, i was reading the results of my google search so the mod is installed and the server restarted
[11:53] <Dr_Manhattan> oooh you're right pavycontrol is sweet
[11:53] <Plumblum_> but i havnt changed the things in /mods-enabled/userdir.conf
[11:54] <TJ-> Plumblum_: To enable mods from the terminal you do "sudo 2enmod <modname>"
[11:54] <bonhoeffer> how do i tell if i have i5 or i7?
[11:54] <TJ-> Plumblum_: And the reverse to disable is "sudo a2dismod <modname>"
[11:54] <Plumblum_> yep :)
[11:54] <Dr_Manhattan> and it has the proper inputs for the audio card. THanks a bunch guys
[11:55] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Possibly: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[11:55] <Plumblum_> TJ-, i knew how to, but i think i need to change the mods config :)
[11:55] <Dr_Manhattan> wow, I was pleasantly surprised to find out linux makes a far better box for zoneminder and a/v
[11:55] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, thanks!
[11:55] <Dr_Manhattan> I still have to run a VM for one thing but I'll be using vbox for that
[11:55] <bonhoeffer> got it -- so now i need to get graphics working for i5-2500K
[11:56] <Plumblum_> right now i only think it works for /public_html
[11:56] <Plumblum_> so im gonna change that to my site root
[11:56] <Dr_Manhattan> vbox rocks with the usb passthrough
[11:56] <TJ-> Plumblum_: No, you need to change your home directory ... when userdir is enabled apache will expect to find a public_html/ directory in your home directory. So rename your ~/sitename to ~/public_html and you're good to go
[11:56] <Dr_Manhattan> now I can run phonetray
[11:56] <Dr_Manhattan> and the vm can be really lightweight
[11:56] <TJ-> Plumblum_: Or you could create ~/public_html/sitename
[11:57] <Plumblum_> TJ-,  i wasnt gonna rename my home directory :) just change /public_html to something else :P
[11:57] <Plumblum_> but public_html is probably a good description so i will remember that its always the webserver root
[11:58] <TJ-> Plumblum_: I'd recommend creating public_html/ in your home directory and moving your sitename/ dir into it... in future, it might avoid confusion with things not working as expected if you use more sophisticated features
[11:58] <TJ-> Plumblum_: "public_html" is standard on all apache installations
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> is this my only solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172173/ivy-bridge-graphics-not-working-core-i5-hd-2500
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> new, fresh, install ?
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> just to get the display working?
[11:59] <Plumblum_> TJ-, exactley :) luckey for me i didnt change anything, so ill just go and rename my sitename to public_html
[11:59] <bonhoeffer> from what i remember, 11.04 set up graphics easily
[12:00] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You should just be able to make those amendments to the current system
[12:00] <bonhoeffer> agreed, so getting the i5-2500K graphics drivers seems to be the hard part
[12:00] <lee8oi> bonhoeffer, in 'System Settings' there's a hardware drivers  app.
[12:00] <lee8oi> that should allow you to install proprietary drivers
[12:01] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Here's the PPA so you can add it correctly:  https://launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ppa
[12:01] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:01] <sajanek> I want to add file, but the file is there, and I got error: Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but: . MD5 checksum is not correct. How can I remove old file?
[12:01] <sajanek> add to local repository, reprepro
[12:02] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, now i'm getting close! thanks
[12:02] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You can add the "nomodeset" to grub/s config in /etc/default/grub and the "sudo update-grub" to have the bootloader updated
[12:02] <bonhoeffer> thanks! -- right now i'm trying to get the ppa loaded
[12:03] <lee8oi> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:reponame/ppa
[12:03] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:04] <bonhoeffer> learning a lot today :)
[12:04] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: you edit /etc/default/grub with root privileges (e.g. Alt+F2 then "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub") then amend one of the lines to read GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to include whatever is there now plus " nomdeset"
[12:04] <lee8oi> ~tjaalton is probably the name if you missed that.
[12:04] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX already exists so find that line and amend it
[12:05] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, sorry, a quick backup -- i added the ppa, now how do i get the drivers
[12:05] <Plumblum_> TJ-, am i not allowed to have dots in my directories name ?
[12:05] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:05] <TJ-> Plumblum_: You can have dots in directory names, yes
[12:06] <Plumblum_> then i must be doing something else wrong
[12:06] <TJ-> Plumblum_: Did you restart apache? "sudo apache2ctl restart"
[12:06] <Plumblum_> yep
[12:06] <ganster>  sorry guys asking about  website developing  application
[12:07] <TJ-> Plumblum_: Read the apache log files /var/log/apache2/  you'll want error.log or access.log
[12:07] <jalexandru> ganster: your question?
[12:07] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, so i now have updated the file: https://gist.github.com/3313813
[12:08] <lee8oi> dots in web directory names? I've never tried that, but I can imagine it might confuse the web browser if you typed it into the address bar.
[12:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That's correct. Now do "sudo update-grub"
[12:09] <TJ-> lee8oi: why.would.this.directory.name.confuse.apache/ ?
[12:09] <Plumblum_> TJ-, yep getting permission denied to /favicon.ico and also /index.html
[12:09] <bonhoeffer> did it -- strange: Found Ubuntu 11.10 (11.10) on /dev/sdb1
[12:09] <bonhoeffer> i'm running 12.04
[12:09] <Plumblum_> not sure why it wants a /favicon.ico since i havnt added something like that
[12:10] <Plumblum_> its just a line of text in index.html
[12:10] <lee8oi> as subdomains, should be fine, as directories? hmm. Maybe its because I've never tried it that it feels strange.
[12:10] <TJ-> Plumblum_: OK, have you given www-data group ownership of your public_html and contents? "chown -R :www-data public_html"  ?
[12:10] <bonhoeffer> sdb1 is my boot partition
[12:10] <bonhoeffer> why would that have 11.10 on it?
[12:11] <Plumblum_> i thought that wasnt neccesary when using the mod userdir
[12:11] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: What it probably found is an older kernel? did you have Natty on there previously?
[12:11] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, yes
[12:11] <bonhoeffer> is that a problem?
[12:11] <bonhoeffer> i thought i did a completely fresh install
[12:11] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, the browser wont know its dots in the file name since its trying to axcess the root of that folder
[12:11] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: It shouldn't be... it'll put older boot entries under "Previous linux versions" sub-menu
[12:11] <Plumblum_> or atleast i dont think it should
[12:12] <bonhoeffer> got it -- here is my fdisk -l https://gist.github.com/3313827
[12:12] <TJ-> Plumblum_: What URL are you using to access your userdir?
[12:12] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, I see online one gentleman says the solution might be "chown -R www-data:www-data filestore"
[12:12] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, i see that is an older disk i have hooked up
[12:13] <bonhoeffer> makes sense now
[12:13] <TJ-> Plumblum_: There's a special character used to denote a userdir: http://host/~plumblum/
[12:13] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That sounds concerning. That sounds like it may have updated the boot menu on the wrong disk!
[12:14] <bonhoeffer> no, i plugged an old disk in --
[12:14] <bonhoeffer> i should format it
[12:14] <Plumblum_> TJ-, im only using an ip
[12:14] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Ahhh... might be a good idea to unplug that drive and redo the update-grub step
[12:14] <Plumblum_> hanvt had time to fix a proper name
[12:14] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, thanks
[12:14] <TJ-> Plumblum_: So http://IP/~plumblum/
[12:15] <Plumblum_> but i dont want to axcces a subdirectory
[12:15] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, so how do i get to my graphics now -- reboot?
[12:15] <TJ-> Plumblum_: IP or hostname are interchangeable... it's all converted to IP addresses anyhow
[12:15] <luftikuss> What command does suppress WeeChat's messages of the kind "foo has left IRC", "bar has come to channel #ubuntu"?
[12:15] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That is the *theory*
[12:15] <Plumblum_> TJ-, that i do now :)
[12:15] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, thanks!
[12:15] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, are you using a CMS, or are you just setting up the basic apache?
[12:15] <bonhoeffer> leaving ...
[12:15] <Plumblum_> basic apache
[12:15] <lee8oi> oh ok.
[12:16] <Plumblum_> TJ-,  why would i have to connect to http://ip/~plumblum i want it to be the root at just http://IP
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> guys, my second, external monitor is set as primary monitor, how do i change that?
[12:17] <spanner3003> hi i just updated my ubuntu 11.10 system and now i can't get in to it i get an error couldn't read file message it is a wubi install
[12:17] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, to be honest, I setup a really awesome server using one of the 'The Perfect Server' howto's, they have one for Ubuntu. You'd be really happy with the results.
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> nvm found it
[12:18] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, link to that guide ? im reeding the official pdf one.
[12:18] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, hmm ... reboot and no way to see better graphics
[12:18] <TJ-> Plumblum_: If it is still failing it will because one of the parent directories (from / on down) does NOT have the +x (execute) bit set
[12:18] <bonhoeffer> i check additional drivers, and display
[12:18] <bonhoeffer> and nothing looks different
[12:19] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, Try whatever TJ suggests, but if you do want to check out the tutorial try the one I used: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.com%2Fperfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3&ei=PvwkUNedEMrjqgGG8oGwCg&usg=AFQjCNFUbKl1fpXh9_CbwEUf57fK_qdRNg&sig2=4TCI3XFJ04s7QQxAWsfCcw
[12:19] <lee8oi> err whoops thats the redirect url
[12:19] <lee8oi> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[12:20] <lee8oi> My server is awesome, and it can handle as many domain names/sits as I want.
[12:20] <lee8oi> Plus it has ispconfig setup which is fantastic.
[12:20] <TJ-> Plumblum_: "chmod a+x /home/plumblum"
[12:20] <lee8oi> you can ignore the bad certificate part if you are the only one using the panel.
[12:21] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Hmmm... let me do some more research for you
[12:21] <Pici> TJ-: thats really overkill.
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> i'm wondering about a fresh install, if that is my only option
[12:21] <Plumblum_> well i have an awesome websever :P but i have thought for a long time that i should learn the basics of the ubuntu server
[12:21] <Plumblum_> my windows server is working like a dream ^^
[12:21] <Pici> TJ-: and completely uneeded for mod_userdir
[12:21] <TJ-> Pici: It's not. I've just tested it here... with only g+x on /home/tj/ it gives permission denied
[12:21] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, I see. thats fair. :)
[12:21] <Plumblum_> TJ-, ill try that last one, i really appriciate the help :)
[12:22] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, the basic server should have been working out of the box, you must have played with file permissions or something prior to installing apache.
[12:22] <Pici> TJ-: It needs read permissions, not execute.
[12:22] <spanner3003> can anyone help my?
[12:22] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, the basic server works
[12:22] <spanner3003> me**
[12:22] <Plumblum_> i just want to move the webroot to my home directory
[12:22] <lee8oi> oh, then I"ve been on the wrong track.
[12:22] <spanner3003> hi i just updated my ubuntu 11.10 system and now i can't get in to it i get an error couldn't read file message it is a wubi install
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[12:23] <lee8oi> ohh....try creating a symbolic link
[12:23] <TJ-> Pici: The +s is to navigate the directory... we don't want the web server able to *read* files in the user's home directory!
[12:23] <TJ-> oops, typeo ... +x
[12:23] <lee8oi> thats what I did.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> spanner3003:  updated from a eaelier version? or just a normal update?
[12:23] <Plumblum_> TJ-, i dont know how but after the a+x on /home/plumblum
[12:23] <TJ-> Plumblum_: I've tested everything I've told you out afresh here and it saw the same errors you do, now I can access the public_html directory
[12:23] <Plumblum_> it works ^^
[12:23] <Pici> TJ-: Then you should set it on only the directories. not all the files.
[12:23] <spanner3003> normal update from update manager
[12:24] <TJ-> Pici: That's what I did
[12:24] <Pici> TJ-: oh, sorry, I thought I saw a -r in there.  I haven't had my caffiene yet this morning.
[12:25] <TJ-> Pici: lol no.. the -R was for the earlier "chown -R :www-data public_html"
[12:25] <Plumblum_> TJ-, it works :) i hope i didnt compromise anything
[12:25] <Plumblum_> and just as i type that Pici wrote that he misread :P
[12:25] <TJ-> Plumblum_: If you did, then my own servers have been compromised for years :p
[12:25] <Plumblum_> :D
[12:25] <spanner3003> it looked like it updated the kernel and stuff
[12:25] <Pici> Plumblum_: sorry for the confusion.
[12:26] <Plumblum_> nah its fine man
[12:26] <Plumblum_> ive been confused over this problem for 12+ hours xD
[12:26] <TJ-> Plumblum_: earlier versions of Ubuntu used to ship with user home directories having those execute bits set... but then permissions were restricted in later releases so we have to make the explicit choice to allow it now
[12:26] <spanner3003> 3.0 something was the kernel update
[12:26] <TJ-> Plumblum_: So now you can celebrate with a cup of tea :p
[12:26] <Plumblum_> why is it such a hassel to have the webroot in my home directory ?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> spanner3003  3.0.2-29
[12:27] <Plumblum_> i mean it has its own files and everything ;)
[12:27] <Plumblum_> folders *
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> spanner3003:  tried booting one of the older kernels?
[12:27] <caixa> is there anyway to see what is stressing my GPU?
[12:27] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, security. the webroot is vulnerable to whatever your user account does. Thats how I see it.
[12:27] <TJ-> Plumblum_: It's not ... but we don't want 'noob' users inadvertently allowing access to more than they realise do we? Then Ubuntu would get a bad reputation
[12:27] <spanner3003> MonkeyDust, could be
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> spanner3003  i mean, 3.2.0-29
[12:28] <Plumblum_> TJ-, that is true :) and i think i will celebrate with that cup of tea and then go forward with setting up the rest of it :D
[12:28] <Shinobi> I d/led ubuntu server 12.04 and intallled ubuntu-desktop. The article I read said it would install gnome, but I have unity. How do I get gnome.
[12:28] <spanner3003> how i have no grub screen i jist get error: couldn't read file
[12:28] <Plumblum_> and lee8oi thats kinda the point :P since im gonna be moving stuff there from my account etc
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  unity runs on top of gnome3
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Shinobi  unity is a shell over gnome3
[12:28] <jalexandru> Shinobi apt-get install gnome
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> !Gnome-shell
[12:28] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I'm still researching
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> thanks -- me too :)
[12:29] <MarKsaitis> are site config files like phpmyadmin and sogo supposed to be going to conf.d of apache in ubuntu?
[12:29] <MarKsaitis> or is it bloody packagers of sogo and phpmyadmin doing it wrong?!
[12:29] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, you can always move stuff there from your account. Its ok to take the lazy way, I've done it before :)
[12:29] <Pici> MarKsaitis: usually.
[12:29] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Can you check for me whether there is a manually created Xorg configuration: "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf"   ideally that should not exist now
[12:30] <MarKsaitis> Pici, well, I thought thats why you have sites-available!!!!!!!!!!
[12:30] <MarKsaitis> and sites-enabled
[12:30] <rahul_> can anyone please tell me, good video downloader for ubuntu  "like internet download manager (win)"
[12:30] <MarKsaitis> what do you mean usually, for the sake of integrity there is only one folder for one reason
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> rahul_  there's youtube-dl
[12:31] <spanner3003> Dr_Willis, did you get my last?
[12:31] <Pici> MarKsaitis: I mean yes. Thats where phpmyadmin's config file goes.  and no, I don't know why thats the convention.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> and dozens of ff extensions
[12:31] <lee8oi> rahul_, http://code.google.com/p/damnvid/ is another option.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> spanner3003:  other then trying a older kernel. i got no other ideas. i dont use wubi, and i dont reccomend using wubi
[12:32] <spanner3003> k thanks
[12:32] <TJ-> MarKsaitis: "conf.d: contains configuration files which apply globally to Apache2. Other packages that use Apache2 to serve content may add files, or symlinks, to this directory. "
[12:32] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[12:32] <bonhoeffer> true it doesn't exist
[12:32] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, im not logged in as root all the time so its probably easier to have the webroot in my home directory :)
[12:32] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That's good news! It means there isn't a manually createe config overriding any auto-detected config
[12:32] <Plumblum_> it has its own subfolder so i shoudlnt mess it upp by acciden
[12:33] <Plumblum_> accident *
[12:33] <bonhoeffer> i like good news, but i'm not sure what to do with it
[12:33] <Shinobi> Thanks!... On a side note, would xfce (or whatever it is) be better for ubuntu server. This is just a dev LAMP machine. Prototyping a web app
[12:33] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, you shouldn't be logged in as root all the time, but you can always use 'sudo cp' to move files.
[12:33] <caixa> is there a way to display top-like GPU usage in ubuntu?
[12:33] <theadmin> Shinobi: ...For servers, you normally don't use any desktop
[12:33] <XLV> http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/projects/armsglobe/
[12:33] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Are you able to pastebin me a file? "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"
[12:33] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, im never logged in as root :P im using sudo when i have to :)
[12:33] <MarKsaitis> TJ-, ridiculous, to serve content thru apache? That is the purpose of sites-available and sites-enabled, isnt it?!
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi: may as well run a desktop install and install the services you need ;)
[12:34] <TJ-> MarKsaitis: "sites-available: this directory has configuration files for Apache2 Virtual Hosts. Virtual Hosts allow Apache2 to be configured for multiple sites that have separate configurations. "
[12:34] <Shinobi> theadmin: If I need to run a browser from localhost (the webserver). I would need one, no?
[12:34] <Guest1618> MonkeyDust, but it only download youtube videos
[12:34] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, sounds like one of those times ;) lol but again like I said, I've done it that way too. Its not as risky as some might think, but whatever happens on your user account, can potentially affect those files since your user has direct access.
[12:35] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, hmm. . pastebin it sends me to a blank link
[12:35] <theadmin> Shinobi: Well, maybe a plain X.org with openbox or something.
[12:35] <bonhoeffer> i'll try gist
[12:35] <theadmin> Shinobi: Desktop environment -- going too far
[12:35] <TJ-> lee8oi: Plumblum_ I've often done that by using a bind mount of a home working directory into /var/www/
[12:35] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, ofc :) just like i have it in my windows enviroment ;)
[12:35] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Grrr
[12:35] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, I see :)
[12:35] <bonhoeffer> :< -- one problem leads to another ...
[12:35] <Shinobi> gdm or light dm... which one do I use for gnome?
[12:36] <lee8oi> TJ-, thats an idea.
[12:36] <bonhoeffer> i'll copy/paste
[12:36] <ThinkT510> Shinobi: default is lightdm
[12:36] <Pici> Shinobi: it doesn't matter.
[12:36] <MarKsaitis> fair enough. In my case it is ridiculous to have config files for sogo and phpmyadmin in conf.d and stuff like magento, openerp and default site in sites-enabled
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  either.. but servers normally dont boot to a *Dm
[12:36] <lee8oi> I always just used sudo and copied my files over. Only the first user on the system gets sudo access usually.
[12:36] <TJ-> lee8oi: I also use sshfs mounts to put my local working copy on a public server to test it on a hidden random-named directory
[12:36] <rahul__> MonkeyDust,  thanks, is their anyother which can download video from any site?
[12:36] <Shinobi> I hear what your saying. At this point I might just reinstall and try again.... seems like it's already slow and bloated
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> rahul__  maybe some plugin in your browser
[12:37] <Shinobi> Dr_Willis. That's fine. As long as I can run a startx and get to a gui life is fine
[12:37] <lee8oi> TJ-, sounds quite thought out. I like using Node.js for that purpose.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi: i cant imagine how.. you havent installed antthing yet
[12:37] <lee8oi> I can use any IP:port I want anytime.
[12:37] <Plumblum_> TJ-, im not sure how to use that :P and generally when using "shortcuts" not sure what they are called, confuses me. so having the webroot in a folder in my home directory suits me well
[12:37] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/3313919
[12:37] <rahul__> MonkeyDust, ok, ty
[12:38] <TJ-> Plumblum_: oh, agreed. But when you get more advanced these other ways of doing sometimes have merits... such as when you need to have something you are working on included in an existing web-app and database config
[12:38] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Reading... I may be gone for some time... :p
[12:38] <^BARrE|^> can i mount a iso in gnome?
[12:38] <bonhoeffer> ok, wow -- thanks for the help . . .
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !Iso | ^BARrE|^
[12:38] <theadmin> ^BARrE|^: Dunno about GNOME, but mount -o loop blah.iso /mnt
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> thers some gnome iso mount tool also.. but the cli way is worth learning
[12:39] <Shinobi> It's a VM so that may have something to do with the slowness, but it's actually slow in comparison to my other (ubuntu) VMs
[12:39] <Shinobi> Ram is good
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> ^BARrE|^  please remove those ^ signs
[12:39] <lee8oi> TJ-, thats the main reason I couldn't really offer much help with the Apache, I'm mostly using Node.js for my development. That way I can always change ports/etc without affecting my public server.
[12:39] <Plumblum_> TJ-, one step at a time :P im relativley new to ubuntu so i think getting advanced takes its time. since this is going to be more of a test server i kinda excpect to have to wipe everything and start over when i need to :)
[12:40] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: What's wrong with ^ in the nickname? Don't like cat ears?
[12:40] <lee8oi> Plumblum_, use Ubuntu Server to build servers...even if you want to start from scratch and learn
[12:40] <Plumblum_> lee8oi, isnt that what im doing ?
[12:40] <lee8oi> oh lol
[12:40] <Plumblum_> ;9
[12:40] <Plumblum_> ;) *
[12:40] <lee8oi> man I need another smoke :P I just woke up a while ago too
[12:41] <TopGrL> hey
[12:41] <Plumblum_> still getting used to not having a gui :D
[12:41] <TJ-> lee8oi: Smoking will stunt your code!
[12:41] <ghano> topgrl: hi
[12:41] <Plumblum_> has been quite some times since i used ssh
[12:41] <Plumblum_> and lee8oi go for a cup of tea instead :)
[12:41] <TopGrL> is here any server's expert?
[12:41] <lee8oi> TJ lol naw, it only stunts my creativity :)
[12:42] <Plumblum_> you can take that with you to your desktop
[12:42] <theadmin> TopGrL: Just ask your questions.
[12:42] <Plumblum_> TopGrL, i would suggest TJ- but dont wear him out, i think we need him
[12:42] <Plumblum_> :)
[12:42] <TJ-> LOL thanks Plumb!
[12:42] <Plumblum_> well so far its true :P
[12:43] <lee8oi> TJ-, if I don't smoke I'm always over thinking everything and coding 20 lines for something I can do in 2. When I smoke I stare longer and think it through better :)
[12:43] <Plumblum_> i dont have to make it up
[12:43] <ghano> theadmin: what about updates fail to download?
[12:43] <TopGrL> which linux server do u recommend? I am thinking debian but I don't know...
[12:43] <theadmin> ghano: Sorry, wut?
[12:43] <TJ-> lee8oi: Interesting excuse for your poor lungs!
[12:43] <lee8oi> But I'm deaf. If I don't smoke my anxiety, and my own head go absolutely bananas
[12:43] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:43] <theadmin> TopGrL: This is an Ubuntu channel, what kind of answer do you expect to get... Try ##linux
[12:44] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I'm reading up on the bug #1031784 report now
[12:44] <TopGrL> oops
[12:44] <TopGrL> tnx
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> TopGrL:  totally depends on your needs. we suggest ubuntu here if you want ubuntu support
[12:44] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . .
[12:44] <lee8oi> TJ-, lol yea poor lungs. You got me there.
[12:44] <ghano> for system update it tell fail to fitch  data
[12:44] <TJ-> lee8oi: Take up running it works! :)
[12:44] <lee8oi> TJ-, or bike riding!
[12:44] <TopGrL> Ok I will go to Linux..I f..ked up:)
[12:44] <TopGrL> sorry guys
[12:44] <theadmin> TopGrL: It's no problem, good luck :)
[12:45] <TopGrL> tnx
[12:45] <TopGrL> I am so blonde:)
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> ghano  any error message?
[12:45] <ghano> yes
[12:45] <lee8oi> hey blondes can be smart in their own ways lol
[12:45] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: What we did should fix the issue on a clean install. I don't want you to have to reinstall for this, so I'm going to figure out what artifacts are left behind that we need to delete!
[12:46] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, got it!
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ghano  what error(s)?
[12:46] <TJ-> When I was blonde I swear I was smarter! :p
[12:46] <bonhoeffer> wow -- thanks!
[12:46] <ghano> it's a long message
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ghano  pastebin it in the channel
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> !pastebin
[12:47] <ghano> may be next time when it appears
[12:47] <ghano> Monkeyust thank you
[12:49] <ganster>  sorry guys asking about  website developing  application
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> ganster  try kompozer
[12:49] <jalexandru> ganster seams to be bot
[12:50] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: The issue is fixed by updating two packages. I'm going to download the bad and the good packages and see what the 'bad' one might be leaving behind to affect the new package. Before I do, I need you to confirm the versions installed on yours. Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mesa && apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[12:50] <jalexandru> repeated the question 4-5 times without having anything to say...
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/3313967
[12:51] <bonhoeffer> but TJ, why don't i just do a fresh install -- this is a new(er) install anyway
[12:51] <bonhoeffer> and i feel bad you are doing so much work
[12:51] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Well if you want to! I thought it would be interesting to figure out why a simple package upgrade doesn't fix it
[12:52] <bonhoeffer> true, but i want to respect your time
[12:52] <k42jc> hi
[12:52] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I just want to find out which version of mesa you have installed... let me figure out what the package name will be!
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> ok -- did you get my gist?
[12:53] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Yes, that's why I want to know... I thought the package name was just "mesa" but that's only for the source-code, so I need to figure out the binary package names
[12:54] <bonhoeffer> ah
[12:55] <ThinkT510> !find mesa | TJ-
[12:55] <Guest64319> can't mount my hard-drive. it appears in Disk Utility, divided to several volumes with device /dev/sda#, all of partition type unknown(using 11.04 on live cd)
[12:55] <TJ-> ThinkT510: Yes, I know what they all are... I'm trying to figure out which ones the xorg...intel package needs :p
[12:56] <gigihothot> i think I have set a limit on my update manager a few months ago , how to i check ?
[12:56] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: "apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa"
[12:56] <gigihothot> i think I have set a limit on my update manager a few months ago , how do i check ?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  you can format the partition to ext4 during installation
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> partitions*
[12:57] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/3314013
[12:57] <bonhoeffer> for TJ-
, is there a way to get the data from it before i format?
[12:58] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Thanks. So your system doesn't have that installed... that's good. Less to figure out!
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> :)
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here
[12:59] <gigihothot> who can help me to get rid of update manager download limit ?
[12:59] <jpds> gigihothot: There is no limit by defauly.
[12:59] <Guest64319> the power failed on my windows7 installation, and the computer could not boot (error reading from disk). i burned my live cd from my other machine, and come here
[13:00] <twobigdimples> hi. i have a dual boot system running ubuntu 11.10 64bit and windows vista 32bit
[13:00] <gigihothot> jpds , i have set the limit previously and i forgot how to set it back
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  ok, linux sees the harddisk as partitions, you need enough space to intall linux on it
[13:00] <jpds> gigihothot: well, only you're going to know how to reset that, it could be something in /etc/apt/
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  free space, that is
[13:01] <Guest64319> i can install om my second hd.
[13:01] <gigihothot> how to chcek the update manger limit ?
[13:01] <bekks> gigihothot: Which limit?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  you should be able to select that second hd in gparted
[13:02] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I think it will be quicker to reinstall. I can't see anything obviously different having looked at the new driver's build log
[13:02] <twobigdimples> how do i encrypt and back up the entire secondary memory?
[13:02] <gigihothot> update manger download limit
[13:02] <soliloquy> Hi. I'd like to start dual booting Xubuntu with OS X Mountain Lion on my MacBook Air. Does anyone have instructions that will work? I'm nervous about ruining my OS X install in the process, which I need for school.
[13:02] <lee8oi> twobigdimples, you want to back up all your hard drives?
[13:02] <bonhoeffer> got it -- thanks for trying!
[13:02] <Guest64319> what is gparted? you mean the installation process or disk utility?
[13:03] <twobigdimples> i only have one hdd
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> gparted is a tool you can install and use
[13:03] <Guest64319> nvm, i got gparted
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> its a very handy tool.
[13:04] <lee8oi> twobigdimples, try this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/hdup.1.html
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> theres a gparted live-cd thats worth haivng in your pc toolbox also ;)
[13:04] <lee8oi> twobigdimples, that also supports encryption/etc.
, it appears on gparted
[13:05] <sergiu[1]> how iis possible to remove all windows effects in ubuntu 12.04? :)
[13:06] <tech1> fried nuggets
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  you know what to do now? familiar with partitioning?
[13:06] <sergiu[1]> how to turn of compiz
[13:06] <sergiu[1]> :))
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> !notcompiz
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> !notunity
[13:06] <sergiu[1]> !compiz >sergiu[1]
[13:07] <Guest64319> i know it in general from windows and dos, but i don't know what to do after installing ubuntu
[13:07] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: how do i: Do a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04, boot installer with nomodeset
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest64319  next phase is: learning
[13:07] <bonhoeffer> when i can set that i'm doing the fresh install now
[13:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: When the liveCD starts there should be options along the bottom of the screen to press function keys. F6 I think is advanced, then you need to add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command line, then start it
[13:08] <bonhoeffer> oh -- oops
[13:08] <sergiu[1]> I am trying to remove compiz, unity with synaptic but the files are deleted only by one, not all files related with name unity
[13:09] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: :p
[13:09] <Guest64319> learning what? i can install ubuntu, and used it for several months on my other machine
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> i'm already past that, right i'm entering user information
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> like account name, etc
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> sergiu[1]  nop need to remove anything, just install a different DE and select it in lightDM
[13:09] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Well as long as the video is working you should be OK ... as soon as it reboots into the installed system, press SHIFT as soon as the BIOS screens end to get to the GRUB boot menu
[13:09] <sergiu[1]> MonkeyDust,ihad selected simple KDM
[13:10] <sergiu[1]> needed to selecet probaly lightDM
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Either can work
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm reconfigure      to change *Dm's
[13:10] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Then choose the Ubuntu item from the menu and press "E" to edit it. You'll see several lines of text one starting with "linux" ... add to the end of that "nomodeset" and then press Ctrl+X to boot
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong command
[13:11] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: just to be sure, i go through the fresh install like normal, then when i reboot i: boot installer with nomodeset
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm    to change *Dm's
[13:11] <Anomie21> One of the computers on my network is bypassing OpenDNS somehow (Kubuntu). It's recognised as being on OpenDNS (when I view the opendns welcome page it says I'm using OpenDNS). But he is able to view all the sites I've blocked (facebook, etc?)
[13:11] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Not the installer no. You've just got through the installer without a problem. When it restarts you'll be editing the installed system.
[13:12] <bonhoeffer> got it
[13:12] <|12jow12> Hello?
[13:12] <|12jow12> Am i allowd to ask qeustions about ubuntu here?
[13:12] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You'll add "nomodeset" temporarily for *that boot only* to get in... then once in we'll edit /etc/default/grub again to put "nomodeset" in there
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> |12jow12: thats the point of the channel
[13:12] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: after editing it, you'll do the update-grub again to fix the change
[13:13] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Then you can add that PPA and do the dist-upgrade
[13:13] <|12jow12> Dr_Willis: ok then
[13:13] <sergiu[1]> haha
[13:14] <sergiu[1]> gnome 3 is so much more good then unity
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> ?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> sergiu[1]:  i find just the opposite
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> and i like xfce and classic
[13:14] <sergiu[1]> Dr_Willis:  there is an button, view, when you click on it you see all running apps
[13:14] <sergiu[1]> :))
[13:14] <bluenemo> hi guys, i cant get my computer to eat a 64bit 12.04 live cd for installing, is there a way to build a 64bit installer onto a usb stick from debain testing 32 bit?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> sergiu[1]: so?
[13:15] <TJ-> I'm getting used to Unity now... after I discovered holding down the Meta (windows) key give so many useful hints
[13:15] <sergiu[1]> Dr_willis, does unity DE have the same?
[13:15] <sergiu[1]> :)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> bluenemo:  you can dd the iso image to flash. or use tools from pendrivelinux
[13:16] <bluenemo> i think unity is the worst interface ever. however i really LOVE gnome shell. for work i use xmonad all the time and love it, but on my x200 tablet i use gnome-shell sometimes and its just awesome.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sergiu[1]:  cant say i have issues i apps..
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> with loseing apps
[13:16] <|12jow12> So i have installed windows server 2003 on this old pc but now i am dualbooting ubuntu, i've never used linux before and many more advanced pc users told me that linux is just way faster, better etc but for some reason my internet keeps disconecting after about 30 - 60 seconds. I'm using a wireless dongel from conceptronic and also have a conceptronic router.
[13:16] <bluenemo> Dr_Willis, i can really just dd it? doesnt it not work anymore because of syslinux and isolinux bootloaders required to boot eather one?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> quicklists and the hud and lenses are the main features i use
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  wifi for a server sounds odd to me
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> bluenemo:  as of 11.10 i think you can just dd it to flash
[13:17] <bluenemo> lol AWESOME :D
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> bluenemo:  12.04+ definatly can
[13:17] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: I'm planning to use it to learn programming
[13:17] <bluenemo> thats good to know as i'm heavily remastering 12.04 since a few days. so no need to change bootloader :D
[13:17] <WeThePeople> can sombody walk me through a tar.gz install?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  cable is much faster and more stable than wireless
[13:18] <gimpy94> How do I tell pulseaudio what my default soundcard is in 12.04-server with LXDE?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople: totally dependsa on whats in it
[13:18] <bluenemo> :D
[13:18] <gimpy94> WeThePeople: It varies.  Is there an "INSTALL" file in it?
[13:19] <jalexandru> any reason for cups to wait 2-3 minutes until sending a job to a network printer?
[13:19] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: Since i'm just 14 i life with my parents and they won't allow me  to place the pc downstairs in reach of the router
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  you may like this http://www.hackerhighschool.org/
[13:19]  * Dr_Willis has several 100+ft cat 5 cables
[13:19] <WeThePeople> its dr_willis, gimpy94, its here http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-shoutcast/
[13:20] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: I'm not intrested in learning to hack, i just want to learn to program
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  look for a ppa is my advice for that tool
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  problem is wifi, it's not stable enough
[13:21] <TJ-> |12jow12: Linux is very good at keeping text log files of everything that happens. I suggest you look at some of those to see if there are clues as to why the network is disconnecting. From the dash, search for "Log file viewer" then open the log files /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log and see if you can see anything about the Wifi disconnecting and reconnecting
[13:21]  * Dr_Willis just *Loves* how the term hack has been hijacked by the media
[13:21]  * TJ- doesn't
[13:21] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: So basically i have no other option then Ethernet?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  it's a more stable start
[13:21] <TJ-> I've been hacking since 1979-ish and I shan't stop now :p
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> if you have poor wifi support - you can get cheap wifi dongles for like $10 that seem to work well for me
[13:22] <|12jow12> TJ-:  I'll have a look
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> got a ethernet-to-wifi thing for $50 that makes the pc think its wired ;) no drivers needed at all
[13:23] <BluesKaj> |12jow12, your wifi dongle uses the ralink rt 28XX driver which can be difficult to configure on linux , or you can try wicd network manager which I had some luck with, No gurantees tho.
[13:23] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, what is a ppa
[13:23] <bluenemo> Dr_Willis, cool, whats its name?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> !Ppa | WeThePeople
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> bluenemo:  some common linksys or netgrar gizmo. sold for game consoles mainly
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> its like a mini-router
[13:24] <bluenemo> ah cool i see. how fast is it?
[13:24] <|12jow12> I'm suprised over the help i get here normally people just say:"Fuck off underaged fag and learn english".
[13:24] <TJ-> !language | |12jow12
[13:24] <bluenemo> |12jow12, there doesnt seem to be a problem with your english
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> faster then the $10 usb dongle.. so 150+ i think
[13:24]  * TJ- chortles @ bluenemo
[13:25] <|12jow12> Ubottu: I'm sorry
[13:25] <bluenemo> well i think he was fraising people. and he's 14.. but you are right TJ- , sorry
[13:25] <BluesKaj> !ubottu | |12jow12
[13:25] <bluenemo> ubottu, is the bot :D he's not a person
[13:26] <TJ-> bluenemo: Indeed :D I love a good fraising
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> best thing about usb type wifi.. you can get a usb extension cord and position it where you can get a good signal
[13:26] <bluenemo> ok then that word does not exist m) idk man :D
[13:26] <|12jow12> BlueKaj: oh, haha
[13:26] <bluenemo> quoting people?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> or a can-tanna ;)
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  Dr_Willis is underage, too, or so i'm told
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> I got grandkids...
[13:27] <TJ-> Dr_Willis is chuntering on :p
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> so get off my lawn!
[13:27] <TJ-> We'll be onto the price of soya next :p
[13:27] <heke80> hi tried to upgrade from ubuntu 8 to ubuntu10 , the damn thing stopped to some openoffice error ... I uninstalle it now , tring again...  any other precautions to do ?
[13:27] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: An other *little* qeustion. Which Programming language do you recomend starting with?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> TJ-: corn prices are going up ;) not soybeans
[13:27] <LastVagrantt> Hi all, I have a problem and I don't know how to phrase it so I'm having trouble searching for it. Basically my unity bar sometimes "forgets" I have windows open. So that I'll have a libreoffice document I'm working on, I'll alt-tab to another program and then I cannot alt-tab back to it and if I click on the libreoffice icon on my bar it opens a new document instead of going to the one that's already open. Has anybody got any ad
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> |12jow12: total beginer = python
[13:28] <FormatHDD> Hi, does anyone know how to format a 3TB HDD in ubuntu? I managed to do it before on an older 3TB HDD as two partitions, but the new one shows as only 700GB. I don't remember what method I used previously.
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  python -- use 'quickly', it's in combination with Glade
[13:28] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I know. I'm a farm boy born n bred... I get the privilege of living on the farm but doing this computer stuff for kicks
[13:28] <heke80> where can I find the upgrade log ?
[13:28] <|12jow12> Dr_WIllis: I'll search some tutorials about that
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  i rephrase: Quickly uses Glade to program in Python
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> |12jow12: 1000's of them ;)
[13:29] <bluenemo> Dr_Willis, so in theory i should be able to just $ kvm ubuntu-12.iso?
[13:29] <bluenemo> without -cdrom/
[13:29] <bluenemo> ?
[13:29]  * TJ- growls at the mention of Python!
[13:29] <bluenemo> lol
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> bluenemo:  never used kvm. so no idea
[13:29] <bluenemo> ah ok. you should! ;) it rocks
[13:29] <TJ-> bluenemo: I think they've made qemu-kvm much more intelligent that it used to be
[13:30] <bluenemo> ah yes it does work. i selected an old image. just kvm ubuntu.iso. awesome! nice work!
[13:31] <FormatHDD> 3TB hard drive, anyone?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> |12jow12  start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[13:31] <bluenemo> what kind of question is that FormatHDD
[13:31] <FormatHDD> Hi, does anyone know how to format a 3TB HDD in ubuntu? I managed to do it before on an older 3TB HDD as two partitions, but the new one shows as only 700GB. I don't remember what method I used previously.
[13:31] <Andril> morning all
[13:31] <compdoc> FormatHDD, gparted is a great way to go
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> FormatHDD:  i just use gparted to partion  mine with no issues
[13:32] <FormatHDD> OK
[13:32] <MaK10> hey every1
[13:32] <bluenemo> FormatHDD, shred -v -n 1 /dev/sda (if sda is your hdd)
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> no need to use 2 partitions
[13:32] <compdoc> I like one large partition
[13:33] <FormatHDD> bluenemo: Thanks, I haven't tried that.
[13:33] <bluenemo> FormatHDD, it will wipe your hdd
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> i havent seen any bigger then 3tb hds.. i thought 4's were due out
[13:33] <MaK10> i just installed ubuntu 12 LTS.. getting major issues with ati driver and dual monitors.. with installing the ati. dual monitors works fine. but once installed it only stays mirrored
[13:33] <bluenemo> so be warned. it will overwrite everything with random data. start gparted after that
[13:33] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: it booted automatically, do i need to re-install again?
[13:33] <bluenemo> Dr_Willis, yes there are 4TB
[13:33] <FormatHDD> Yes, its a brand new hdd from amazon, just arrived today. I need to wipe it anyway.
[13:34] <bluenemo> i'd do that too. i prefer to write random data before encrypting.
[13:34] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You must have missed out on pressing the SHIFT key ... but never mind. As long as you have video, do the changes to /etc/default/grub and add that PPA and do the upgrade, then reboot
[13:34] <Lost_Cause> Dr_Willis: there are 4tb http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Deskstar-3-5-Inch-Internal-0S03355/dp/B005TK3HNI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1344605641&sr=8-5&keywords=4+tb+hard+drive
[13:35] <bluenemo> FormatHDD, there is also the more comfortable option of ddrescue /dev/urandom /dev/sda. i very much like its output and other capabilities so i use it for all main dd stuff
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> havent seen them in stores.. i did get a 128gb ssd last week ;)
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Ddrescue reading from urandom. ;) thats.. amuseing
[13:36] <bluenemo> is anyone around that has been or currently does administrate a server (or cluster of servers) only for the use of thin clients (for programmers)?
[13:36] <bluenemo> (with linux / ubuntu) :)
[13:36] <Lost_Cause> i think you can only buy them online
[13:37] <Lost_Cause> !anyone | bluenemo
[13:38] <bluenemo> Dr_Willis, not at all, ddrescue is perfect for writing to disks and getting dead blocks overwritten as well. Lost_Cause i did ask that way because i have a lot of questions and in general i'm looking for somebody to chat about that topic that has high experience with the topic. i already asked a few times a few days ago, seems to be a less driven topic
[13:40] <FormatHDD> The 3TB HDD is detected to only have 700GB by the shred program
[13:40] <bluenemo> FormatHDD, then there is very much likely something wrong with the hdd.
[13:40] <TJ-> FormatHDD: That sounds like a weirdness. What does Linux kernel think it is?
[13:41] <killer_> why does rhythmbox keeps  on playing song even after clicking on close button of the rhythmbox window
[13:41] <DSSA> bluenemo, it sounds like I joined a few minutes too late.
[13:42] <bluenemo> DSSA, :)
[13:42] <TJ-> FormatHDD: Check on the kernel log with "grep '.*sd.*logical blocks.*' /var/log/kern.log"
[13:43] <bluenemo> fast way to get info to propably dieing hdd's is also dmesg
[13:43] <Lost_Cause> killer_: you have to hit stop first.  rhythmbox is kinda of controlled by the shell.  that is why you can change what your listing to through the shell by clicking on the speaker option
[13:43] <Shinobi> How long do installing the ca-certs take? This install seems hung at 65%
[13:44] <Stinger> Does anyone know how to enable Remote Desktop on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:45] <Anomie21> Stinger: I use teamviewer - works well.
[13:45] <TJ-> Shinobi: When first installed a program has to be run against them to generate some other bits; that can take a few minutes I've noticed on some systems
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> FormatHDD, Perhaps that's only one partition?
[13:45] <DSSA> If anyone can give me some advice, I'd appreciate it; I just had what I think is a HDD failure in my Ubuntu box that I was using as a file server.  I pulled the drive, and tried to read it on a windows box with a USB HDD reader to no avail.  Just loaded 12.04 onto a new HDD in the Ubuntu box, and tried reading the old HDD (once again with USB HDD reader) and I'm only able to see 255MB worth of
[13:46] <DSSA> space on the old drive.  Gnome and some other Ubuntu stuff is on there, but I can't see any of the files that I was saving to that drive.  Any good way (program?) to use to try to access the data?  If it helps, the failure message I was getting with the old Ubuntu/Drive setup was a Kernel Panic - Not Syncing errror.
[13:46] <Shinobi> TJ - is there a way to see the system messages in a terminal?
[13:46] <bluenemo> DSSA, if you need the data do NOT PUT POWER back on the hdd before you've got a GOOD PLAN on what to do exactly
[13:46] <TJ-> Stinger: If you type "remote desk" into dash you'll get  options
[13:47] <bluenemo> each second you leave a dieing hdd running it'll further break, costing you time to really recover data
[13:47] <DSSA> Stinger: I'm no expert in the least, but would this help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> DSSA, I believe that there is a data recovery program called TestDisk, that you might want to try.
[13:47] <M3th4n0l> Hello i have a question not regarding linux primary but its regarding a IBM server
[13:48] <Stinger> TJ-, Got it.  Thanks!
[13:48] <DSSA> Sidewinder1: Thank you--I'll start doing some research on that right now.
[13:48] <M3th4n0l> my question is simple i have a server one of theese
[13:48] <M3th4n0l> http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-61458
[13:48] <Lost_Cause> DSSA: windows wouldn't see your hdd because it most likely isn't ntfs.  did you try to slave it directly to your mother board and boot into new image you created and mount the possibly failed drive
[13:48] <bluenemo> there might be people around here with lots of knowledge about that topic, but for serious data recovery issues i recommend to look into #digital-forensic as well, i've known them for years, great channel. this channel however also offers professional advice (dont missunderstand me ;)
[13:48] <M3th4n0l> will 2TB hard drives work with it ?
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> DSSA, My pleasure; I hope it helps.
[13:48] <M3th4n0l> because it says like this "Integrated SATA controller supports 80, 160, 250, 500 GB SATA HDs"
[13:49] <M3th4n0l> i know that 2TB harddrives didnt exist in the market when the server was manufactured and i know that IBM havent updated their info regarding that but i just wanna know if it's compatible or not
[13:49] <TJ-> Shinobi: I'mnot entirely sure what system messages you mean. You can switch virtual terminals using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F7 and one of those may be receiving progress messages
[13:49] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?
[13:49] <Lost_Cause> M3th4n0l: as long as the motherboard on the server supports 2 tb drives.  you are going to have to look it up
[13:49] <Shinobi> TJ - Thx
[13:49] <Lost_Cause> but from what you just said it doesn't look like it will
[13:50] <Stinger> Can someone address me by Nick please.  I am configuring sound in my chat client
[13:50] <marahin> Hello everynyan! I am using Ubuntu 12.04, with Xinerama (dual screen); display0 is with gpu0 [Gtx580] and displa1 is with gpu1 [Gt9600]. Yet I have a problem when triggering "Display" utility of Ubuntu and trying to run Minecraft (it says <for Display utility> RANDR extension is not present, and for Minecraft it says <Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".>
[13:50] <marahin> Stinger
[13:50] <M3th4n0l> Lost_Cause, the motherboard on the server is a  IBM  M11iX
[13:50] <Stinger> marahin, Again please, if you don't mind
[13:50] <marahin> Stinger
[13:50] <Stinger> marahin, Thx
[13:51] <marahin> No problem!
[13:51] <marahin> Does anyone have an idea what to do with that randr issue?
[13:52] <subterfuge> How do I post/link to a screen shot so I can show you all my issue?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> marahin  explore xrandr, havent ued it myself, tho
[13:53] <Claximillions> Where is the best place to learn commands for networking?
[13:53] <TJ-> marahin: I seem to recall that is caused by the nvidia driver not fully supporting randr
[13:53] <Claximillions> subterfuge, if you save the screenshot as a file in something like paint, you can upload it to websites like tinypic.com
[13:53] <TJ-> marahin: I had an 'experience' along those lines a while back... randr works fine with the nouveau drivers, but not with nvidia
[13:54] <subterfuge> Claximillions: Thanks didn't know what one could link to here
[13:54] <Lost_Cause> M3th4n0l: i can't any completely relabile info about the limit on that motherboard but i am pretty sure that it won't read the 2tb drive
[13:55] <Claximillions> subterfuge: Are there restrictions?
[13:56] <mbeierl> !pastbin | subterfuge
[13:56] <mbeierl> !pastebin
[13:57] <marahin> TJ-, what I am supposed to do right now then?
[13:57] <FormatHDD> Got disconnected, as I was saying: My previous 3TB also had same problems, I don't know how I eventually formatted it correctly. The other 3TB HDD is detected as 800GB when computers starting up in the post screen, but works fine.
[13:57] <mbeierl> sorry, subterfuge type there.  That's the most commonly recommended text and image sharing for the channel
[13:57] <marahin> While I had one screen powered on & working on Ubuntu, randr worked just fine (I could access "Display" utility on Ubuntu), and now it just pop ups the error.
[13:58] <TJ-> marahin: On the dash type "nvidia" there's a settings GUI
[13:58] <ermajn> hwo to find out witch service is using  my port 53
[13:58] <TJ-> marahin: I'm assuming you are using the nvidia proprietary drivers
[13:58] <ermajn> ubuntu 12.4
[14:00] <TJ-> ermajn: "sudo netstat -tnlap | grep 53"
[14:00] <zAo^> ermajn:  lsof -i
[14:00] <zAo^> or that :)
[14:02] <dweez> port 53 is typically DNS
[14:03] <Shinobi> I've been at 65% on install for a over 10 min. How long should I give this thing...
[14:03] <zAo^> Shinobi: what hardware? Server install?
[14:03] <TJ-> Shinobi: It's stuck!
[14:03] <Stinger> I need a little more help with Remote Desktop Viewer.  Does anyone have any experience?
[14:04] <Shinobi> It's 12.04 server I am reinstalling in a VirtualBox VM
[14:04] <Shinobi> It worked fine before, but I wanted to reinstall. Now it's stuck... really od
[14:04] <Shinobi> odd
[14:04] <zAo^> Shinobi: what does TTY4 say?
[14:04] <Shinobi> how do I get to tty4
[14:04] <zAo^> cntl + alt + F4
[14:05] <Shinobi> So here's an interesting situation. I'm viewing it via rdp and cannot send the ctrl+alt+F4 signal because the local machine traps it.
[14:05] <arnsa> Hello, could anyone suggest me any GUI for Linux Ubuntu which is much faster than Unity? Because my old laptop works really slow with Unity, I want something faster..
[14:06] <Shinobi> anyway to send via rdesktop?
[14:06] <TJ-> Shinobi: Depend on the viewer, it may have a menu option to send special codes
[14:06] <Fuchs> arnsa: you might want to have a look at LXDE (lubuntus desktop)
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> arnsa  xfce
[14:06] <Fuchs> arnsa: but there are plenty of things to chose from, LXDE or XFCE for full desktop environments, and quite a lot of plain window managers like fluxbox
[14:06] <zAo^> Shinobi: dont know, virtual keyboard? :)
[14:07] <arnsa> thank you guys. Which one is better, xfce or lxde?
[14:07] <Fuchs> arnsa: matter of personal taste
[14:07] <Fuchs> arnsa: feel free to try both
[14:07] <arnsa> okay, thanks a lot!
[14:08] <zAo^> arnsa: depends on your needs. XFCE is a little more like gnome
[14:10] <Shogoot> hi good people! Any advice on what linuxdistro and torrent program i can use on my no to old laptop? i want to sett up excusive tortent box.
[14:10] <TJ-> Shogoot: Transmission deamon I use on one of my servers
[14:11] <Shogoot> TJ-, is that a program?
[14:11] <TJ-> Shogoot: Yes
[14:12] <Shogoot> TJ-, under what distro your using that?
[14:12] <TJ-> Shogoot: It also provides a simple web GUI for controlling it
[14:12] <TJ-> Shogoot: Ubuntu
[14:12] <Shogoot> you know if it work on lubuntu?
[14:12] <TJ-> Shogoot: It would work on any Linux system
[14:12] <Pici> Shogoot: lubuntu is just Ubuntu with LXDE instead of Unity.
[14:13] <narcos> Hi all. Does anyone know where to find squid's libexec folder on ubuntu?
[14:13] <Shogoot> TJ-, ill check it ouot, thanks
[14:15] <ghostchick> bz,check your ssh
[14:15] <Stinger> Does anyone here use Xchat, and if so have you had problems getting alert sounds to work?
[14:16] <|12jow12> MonkeyDust: are you still here?
[14:17] <|12jow12> Dr_Willis: Are you still here?
[14:19] <arnas> I've just installed LXDE but I can't find the option how I can turn on dual-view?
[14:20] <|12jow12> Well, if anyone reads this: I had internet problems but they're now fixed because is use Wicd Network Manager and not the build in network thingy and now i can't install anything from the software market
[14:20] <|12jow12> Software center* sorry.
[14:20] <muh2000> hi all
[14:20] <|12jow12> Hi
[14:20] <muh2000> what is that: http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/whatisthat.png   ?
[14:20] <|12jow12> That's a link, silly
[14:21] <zAo^> :P
[14:21] <zAo^> Looks like a webcam icon?
[14:21] <muh2000> yes it does....
[14:21] <muh2000> but what app is behind that icon?
[14:22] <|12jow12> Looks like a build in webcam viewer to me used to make video's and picture with the webcam offline
[14:22] <Pici> muh2000: Thats on Ubuntu?
[14:22] <muh2000> Pici: more or less... yes
[14:22] <muh2000> kubuntu
[14:23] <Pici> muh2000: You may want to ask in #kubuntu, more KDE folks there ;)
[14:23] <Fuchs> muh2000: _could_ be kamoso, but hard to say without seeing the app
[14:23] <subterfuge> Problem: Display Issues --- Using NVIDIA X Server Setting Driver version 295.49 on Ubuntu 12.04  --- Please see this screen shot (  http://tinypic.com/r/a4225k/6  )for this explanation:    --- While configuring my detected LG brand TV that was connected via HDMI we selected 'Separate X Screen' from the options in the X Server.  When this enabled the display but produced a gray screen that would show a mouse but not a w
[14:23] <subterfuge> indow I switched to 'TwinView' which enabled a screen but disabled multiple work areas.  Through problem solving this I have gone back and forth between these settings.  Every time I do it creates a duplicate “tool bar” at the top and bottom of the screen along with duplicates of those items located there like my clock etc....  Here are my xorg.conf file (  http://pastebin.com/UYXgT64Y  )  --- My goal is to have a
[14:23] <subterfuge> working duplicate or extension of of the currently selected work space --- Any and all help welcome, Thanks
[14:27] <Stinger> Would a .conf file be likely to contain sound audio data?  I am trying to get my alert sounds working in Xchat.
[14:27] <|12jow12> I had internet problems but they're now fixed because is use Wicd Network Manager and not the build in network thingy and now i can't install anything from the software market
[14:27] <muh2000> Fuchs: kamoso is not installed.
[14:28] <Skeeter-> is it ok for a resize2fs to take over 100hours?
[14:28] <TrollingForSoup> |12jow12, The Ubuntu software center won't let you install anything?
[14:29] <escott> Skeeter-, its probably gone wrong somewhere
[14:29] <|12jow12> TrollingForSoup: No, i'm unable to click on install
[14:29] <jaysonsantos> Hi guys, I have a python module which was generated by wurfl2python and it has about 11MB, when I try to import it, kernel sends a SIGKILL to process, what that could be?
[14:29] <Skeeter-> escott: the resize is still going
[14:29] <Skeeter-> escott: about one X per 4hours
[14:29] <Skeeter-> if you know what i mean
[14:30] <wrapids> I'm looking for the name of some software that can validate xml from the command line, for the life of me I can't remember what it's called.
[14:30] <TJ-> Skeeter-: how big is the file-system?
[14:30] <escott> Skeeter-, as a worst case it should take the amount of time to read and write the entire dataset twice. Unless the disk is enormous and very slow 100hours would be a bit too long
[14:31] <Skeeter-> escott: 16tb to 14tb and its luked
[14:31] <Skeeter-> TJ-: ^^
[14:31] <TJ-> Skeeter-: See you at christmas then
[14:31] <Skeeter-> luks'ed
[14:31] <Skeeter-> TJ-: O.o?
[14:31] <wrapids> Skeeter-: he's buying you presents ^
[14:32]  * TJ- blinks :O
[14:32] <Skeeter-> how come growing doesnt take that much time but shrinks does?
[14:32] <TJ-> Skeeter-: Because blocks have to be shuffled around to free up all the space you're losing at the end of the file-system
[14:32] <escott> Skeeter-, because growing just means creating inodes that are unallocated. shrinking the data has to be moved
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> Stinger, In my /home directory, there is a .xchat2 subdirectory; within that is a sound.conf file which contains the event handler and points to different sounds, located in different directories. If that makes sense; I hope it helps.
[14:33] <Skeeter-> TJ-: escott : i rather just convert-btrfs, wait 2 days, then the shrink will be instant
[14:34] <samcoldham1> what is the best coding ide platforms /software in ubuntu for html C++ etc...
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> !Ide
[14:34] <Skeeter-> TJ-: escott thing is, im moving all the data to another ext4 FS since the 1st ext4FS was 32bit, i couldnt grow pass 16TB
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> Stinger, For instance this is a line in that file "event=Channel Msg Hilight
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> sound=/home/de/Sound/nature2.wav"
[14:35] <wrapids> ^^answer to my question was xmllint
[14:38] <Skeeter-> TJ-: escott do you have any better idea to move the data?
[14:38] <escott> Skeeter-, well you already started so you are committed now
[14:39] <Skeeter-> escott: well, after that resize, i cant change the way i can do it
[14:39]  * Dr_Willis hopes backups are made
[14:39] <Skeeter-> Dr_Willis: not
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> 2 days.. hope you got a generator or good ups..
[14:40] <escott> Skeeter-, if you need a single monolithic 16TB+ luks encrypted filesystem then you have to create it with the correct block size
[14:40]  * Sidewinder1 Then hopes that there is no irreplaceable data involved.
[14:40] <Skeeter-> escott: i am not following you... the new ext4 i made, i added the -O 64bit
[14:41] <escott> Skeeter-, or do that
[14:41] <JoeQuery> If I SSH into Comp B from Comp A, is it possible to configure my host file on Comp A to access the VM of Comp B?
[14:41] <Skeeter-> escott: u scared the shit out of me
[14:41] <JoeQuery> For example, Comp B has a VM running nginx, and I want to view the sites on my Comp A
[14:42] <subterfuge> Problem: Display Issues --- Using NVIDIA X Server Setting Driver version 295.49 on Ubuntu 12.04  --- Please see this screen shot (  http://tinypic.com/r/a4225k/6  )for this explanation:    --- While configuring my detected LG brand TV that was connected via HDMI we selected 'Separate X Screen' from the options in the X Server.  When this enabled the display but produced a gray screen that would show a mouse but not a w
[14:42] <subterfuge> indow I switched to 'TwinView' which enabled a screen but disabled multiple work areas.  Through problem solving this I have gone back and forth between these settings.  Every time I do it creates a duplicate “tool bar” at the top and bottom of the screen along with duplicates of those items located there like my clock etc....  Here are my xorg.conf file (  http://pastebin.com/UYXgT64Y  )  --- My goal is to have a
[14:42] <subterfuge> working duplicate or extension of of the currently selected work space --- Any and all help welcome, Thanks
[14:42] <TJ-> JoeQuery: Why not just SSH into the VM directly --- I assume it is connected to the network?
[14:43] <carlos> hola buenas
[14:43] <carlos> alguien ha tenido problemas con el brillo de pantalla?
[14:43] <TJ-> !espana
[14:43] <TJ-> !es
[14:43] <JoseeAntonioR> carlos: Puedes ir a #ubuntu-es para soporte en español :)
[14:44] <carlos> perdón, gracias JoseeAntonioR
[14:44] <compdoc> JoeQuery, cant really tell what youre trying to do from what youve said. the VM cant be reached now?
[14:44] <JoeQuery> TJ-: I don't see an internal IP in ifconfig on the VM, I see a pseudo-public IP that I can't reach fro m another computer
[14:44] <JoeQuery> compdoc: It's a VM running on my OS X, to my knowledge I can't reach it from outside my OS X machine. It's VMWare
[14:45] <TJ-> JoeQuery: Ahhh OK. You could set up a static route on your source PC telling it to route all packets for the VM via the VM's host IP
[14:45] <benbro> how can I run: "sox something.ul something.wav" on all the files in a directory?
[14:45] <rav_014> hello just want to ask on how to upgrade on ubuntu linux?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> subterfuge: use twi view and turn off the  show pan on all displays setting
[14:45] <Stinger> Can someone address me by Nick.  I am working on my sounds in my chat client.
[14:45] <compdoc> JoeQuery, should be able to with the right type of networking. I dont use vmware, so I cant say how to set it
[14:46] <TJ-> JoeQuery: something like "ip route add 192.168.2.4/32 via 10.254.254.1 dev eth0" and then ensure IPv4 forwarding is enabled on the VM's host
[14:46] <Pici> !test | Stinger
[14:46] <Stinger> ubuntu_, Cool  Thanks.
[14:46] <JoeQuery> Thanks TJ- , I'll look into it.
[14:46] <Stinger> ubottu, Cool thanks
[14:46] <JoeQuery> :)
[14:46] <Stinger> #test
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> # denotes a channel name
[14:47] <Meikel> Hey guys, i'm a starter wit Linux and i had started wit Ubuntu 12.04 . When i have any questions u guys can help in this chat here ?
[14:47] <Pici> Meikel: yes
[14:47] <escott> !manual | Meikel
[14:47] <rav_014> just want to ask on how to upgrade on ubuntu linux from 10.04 to 12.04?
[14:48] <JoeQuery> TJ-: So I need to add the static route on my OS X machine if that's the machine running the VM,  correct?
[14:48] <JoeQuery> I'm not a networking person %-)
[14:48] <sajanek> how can i sign release file in my own repo?
[14:49] <TJ-> JoeQuery: no, on your source PC. If the VM host already can talk to the VM, and to the source PC, then it already has the correct routes. You need to enable IPv4 forwarding (masquerading) on that host.
[14:50] <JoeQuery> Ah, ok, gotcha now.
[14:51] <pavan> hello everyone, after an update yesterday when I login I get noitifcation as "new resolution modes" and "LCD rotation" and top panel and unity panel disappears, rest of the display works
[14:52] <pavan> please help
[14:52] <TJ-> sajanek: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Setting_up_a_secure_apt_repository
[14:52] <sajanek> TJ- seen, but thanks
[14:52] <sambass> WWW.ubuntu.com
[14:52] <markitoxs>  hi, I have two framebuffers, and I have used con2fb in order to redirect one of the tty's to the other fb, but its only active when i switch directly to it by ctrl+alt+f6, i.e. im running top, and when i go back to tty1 on the first fb, it kinda pauses
[14:53] <sajanek> TJ- I do everything like described, but release file was not signed and I have warnings
[14:53] <sajanek> but gpg --sign path_to_file do the work
[14:53] <sajanek> thanks for helping me
[14:53] <TJ-> sajanek: sorry, I gave you the wrong link ... let me find the correct one. I was looking at the page on signing the releases file yesterday
[14:54] <sambass> je veut savoir comment-est qu'on peut mettre les figures dans la marge dans un document tex
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> !fr > sambass
[14:55] <Stinger> what is the terminal command to find a specific string of text in some larger blob of output?
[14:55] <escott> Stinger, grep
[14:55] <Stinger> escott, Thanks!
[14:56] <fire_> making alpha network awu036H as an access point ?
[14:57] <TJ-> sajanek: See the "Signing  the Release file" part of http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2009/04/howto:_uploading_to_people.d.o_using_dput/
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[14:58] <pavan> hello everyone, after updating yesterday when I login I get notification "New Resolution Modes" and "LCD Rotation" and as I result I don't get both top panel and unity launcher, using ubuntu 12.04, please help
[14:58] <sajanek> TJ- thanks!
[15:00] <SkyKnight> Strange error, couldnt understand from what is causing this, when I tried to drop and migrate the database I got this error http://paste.debian.net/183059/, any one have clue what is happening?
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> pavan: as a test make a new user and see if it affects them
[15:01] <sambass> voici mon mail pour ceux qui veulent m'aider: thee.home.boy07@gmail.com
[15:02] <Fuchs> sambass: je recommende que tu poses ton question ici en anglais, ou en #ubuntu-fr en français. Mettre ton addresse dans un channel public n'est pas vraiement une bonne idée
[15:02] <TJ-> !fr
[15:02] <sambass> j'ai fais une erreur c'est : the.home.boy07@gmail.com
[15:02] <ix_> I've just deleted a movie by shift+detele, but it's still playing in mplayer, how do I recover it?
[15:02] <ix_> delete
[15:03] <ix_> damn thunar
[15:03] <jrib> ix_: pause the movie first
[15:03] <jrib> ix_: (so mplayer doesn't close)
[15:03] <ix_> it is paused
[15:03] <TJ-> ix_: Don't let the program close!
[15:03] <ix_> I don't
[15:03] <TJ-> ix_: second, get the programs process ID
[15:04] <ix_> how?
[15:04] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i have everything re-installed and my intel graphics look at lot better, but how do i increase the resolution
[15:05] <TJ-> ix_: At a terminal: "ps -ef" and look for the program
[15:05] <jrib> ix_: go to /proc/ and find the directory corresponding to the pid of the mplayer instance
[15:05] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Not sure - presumably the Display applet in the System Settings?
[15:05] <bonhoeffer> bonhoffer: in display the highest i can go is 1280x1024
[15:05] <bonhoeffer> i want 1920 x 1200
[15:06] <ix_> ok, I found the PID
[15:07] <ix_> ok, I found the folder in /proc with that PID
[15:07] <jrib> ix_: open the fd subdirectory
[15:07] <ix_> now what?
[15:07] <bonhoeffer> it seems like my only display is laptop, not the hg281D i'm running
[15:07] <ix_> yes
[15:07] <ix_> :D
[15:07] <TJ-> ix_: now do "ls -l fd/" directory (that's all the file descriptors)
[15:08] <ix_> I can see the link to the movie
[15:08] <jrib> ix_: now just copy it somewhere
[15:08] <luminousq> what would be a better distro
[15:08] <ix_> ok
[15:08] <TJ-> ix_: now use "cp" to copy that fd to another safe place
[15:08] <luminousq> Everyone keeps telling me ubuntu suxs
[15:08] <papai> priyajit
[15:08] <jrib> luminousq: have you tried ubuntu?
[15:08] <TJ-> luminousq: Ubuntu++
[15:09] <papai> anyone here??
[15:09] <luminousq> yeah since 10.10
[15:09] <Alisson_BR> You speak portugues?
[15:09] <jrib> luminousq: well, does it work foryou?
[15:09] <luminousq> wait ubuntu++?
[15:09] <jrib> !pt | Alisson_BR
[15:09] <papai> from india?????
[15:09] <jrib> !in | papai
[15:09] <luminousq> of course it does...I kinda wanted to try something else just not sure what
[15:10] <jrib> luminousq: #ubuntu-offtopic (ubuntu is a fine distro though)
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[15:11] <|12jow12> Hey if i want to install a program from Software center with terminal but the name of the software had spaces what do i need to replace the spaces with?
[15:12] <TJ-> |12jow12: no software packages have spaces in them - although for "nice" display in GUIs they might be added. What's the package you want to install?
[15:13] <|12jow12> TJ-: VLC media player
[15:13] <ix_> jrib, TJ-, thank you, it worked, yay !!!
[15:13] <TJ-> |12jow12: "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[15:13] <TJ-> ix_: Nice one :)
[15:13] <ix_> :D
[15:14] <|12jow12> TJ-: Oh , thank you i tried VLC but it didnt work and vlc did
[15:14] <bonhoeffer> how do i find out my monitor's designation (i.e. LVDS1)
[15:14] <|12jow12> TJ-: i feel stupid now
[15:14] <TJ-> |12jow12: package names are always lower-case, and never have spaces
[15:15] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Not sure but it should be obvious. LVDS is an inbuilt panel, HDMi is external connector, as is DVI VGA TV SVGA and so on
[15:15] <bonhoeffer> :) obvious for you! how, so HDMI should be the connector, how do it test?
[15:16] <bonhoeffer> oh, xrandr
[15:16] <bonhoeffer> sorry
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> ive found very few things vlc wouldent play ;)
[15:16] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: mine is just "default"
[15:16] <bonhoeffer> :<
[15:16] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: sorry... LVDS stands for Low Voltage Differential Signalling
[15:17] <carlos> you know if i can install nvidia driver (from official website) with bumblebee?
[15:17] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Hmmm, not sure then.
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> carlos:  you can try. it may or may not work
[15:18] <carlos> and may break my system xD
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> with bumblebee.. its possible
[15:18] <bonhoeffer> i tried with xrandr but it things my monitor "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1904,1200) . . . maximum=(1280,1024)
[15:18] <bonhoeffer> i know that is not the max of my monitor or on board graphics card
[15:19] <carlos> how can i stop X ?
[15:20] <carlos> for nvidia instalation
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm stop
[15:20] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: It has me stumped... not being there its really hard to picture it or figure it out
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> good luck.....
[15:20] <L3top> bonhoeffer: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2   what is the last line?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> too late
[15:20] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: got it -- i'm reading up
[15:22] <L3top> bonhoeffer: actually you could just pastebin the whole thing.
[15:22] <arnas> Hey guys, I've just installed Xfce but why there's no "Settings Manager" in "Start > Settings"?
[15:22] <bluenemo> is there a link i can use with wget to always get the latest build of the 64bit desktop .iso?
[15:22] <bonhoeffer> L3top: well, it is a different computer: the last line is Kernel modules: i915
[15:23] <bonhoeffer> it is a VGA compatible controller, Intel Corp 2nd gen integrated graphics
[15:23] <bonhoeffer> L3top: does that help?
[15:23] <L3top> bonhoeffer: Ok... so intel graphics. That wouldn't be the problem then... it has the right driver.
[15:23] <L3top> !pastebinit | bonhoeffer
[15:23] <TJ-> bluenemo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[15:23] <ironhalik> Hello
[15:24] <masroor> Is there any way to disable some drivers in ubuntu :S
[15:24] <masroor> & there services
[15:24] <TJ-> masroor: Create a blacklist entry in /etc/modprobe.d/
[15:24] <ironhalik> I'm using a dual display setup, with secondary display being on the left of the main one (using nvidia twinview)
[15:24] <ironhalik> the left side of the main monitor became extremely sticky lately
[15:24] <L3top> bonhoeffer: please sudo apt-get install pastebinit and give me the output of xrandr -q | pastebinit      it will spit out a url
[15:24] <bonhoeffer> will do -- one sec
[15:25] <ironhalik> Ive got sticky edges disabled, dashboard reveals in the upper edge only, yet still, my coursour is cought every time
[15:25] <bluenemo> does daily meen testing here? sorry i'm not so familiar with ubuntu (more debian), i'm remastering a ubuntu 64bit desktop, always just downloaded it plain from the ubuntu.com -> download and so on
[15:25] <bluenemo> TJ-,
[15:25] <TJ-> masroor: Or, for built-in drivers... add "<module_name>.blacklist=yes" to the kernel command line
[15:26] <bonhoffer> L3top, i'm on the other computer now . . . one sec
[15:26] <TJ-> bluenemo: You said latest... so those are the latest 12.10 images rebuilt daily
[15:26] <bonhoffer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139432/
[15:26] <bonhoffer> for L3top (and anyone else :)
[15:26] <L3top> bonhoeffer: also... how is this display physically connected, eg HDMI, LVDS (laptop moniter), DVI, VGA... and are there any adapters involved, eg DVI to VGA converter?
[15:26] <bonhoffer> HDMI -- onboard to motherboard
[15:27] <TJ-> bluenemo: If you want precise images... the directories off here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/
[15:27] <bonhoffer> HANNS-G monitor that can support 1900x1200
[15:27] <bonhoffer> (native)
[15:27] <bluenemo> ah ok thank you TJ-
[15:27] <L3top> so this is going to be a sandy bridge...
[15:27] <TJ-> bonhoffer: see my private chat to you
[15:28] <bonhoffer> L3top, agreed
[15:28] <dpwrussell> If I see a version like this: "4:4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu1" for a ubuntu package, what does that mean exactly?
[15:29] <ix_> is there a way to set window size in openbox?
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> ix_:  try devilspie perhaps
[15:29] <ferni> hmm 12.04 installer says /dev/sda contains some gpt info or something like that and asks yes/no ..either pressing either one does nothing.. (it was a ubuntu install with gpt first and then there was win7) ..well formatted it manually.. should write a bug report but..
[15:29] <TJ-> dpwrussell: version 4:4.7.0 of the upstream package, but really 4.6.0 with added patches, the 0ubuntu1 means 0 versions from Debian, and the 1st release from Ubuntu
[15:30] <dpwrussell> TJ-: thanks
[15:30] <Yorke> Hi guys, can i installed ubuntu amd64 on my intel ia64 system? i cant seem to find an iso that matches
[15:30] <Yorke> install*
[15:30] <TJ-> Yorke: no, not if my IA64 you mean Itanium
[15:30] <masroor> TJ i have to disable bluetooth, webcam and dvdrom of my laptop
[15:31] <Yorke> TJ-, yeah i have an itanium but i cant find an iso that matches
[15:31] <bonhoffer> L3top, should i add something to xorg.conf
[15:31] <bonhoffer> i thought i added the right ppa
[15:32] <gregor3005> hi, i need some help with ubuntu bootup from install usb stick, with qemu-i386 i have no problem to boot up an i386 install media from usb but on my laptop (i386cpu) i get "unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu". i have the i386 install media on an i386 cpu device, any hints?
[15:32] <HSarena> Hi!
[15:32] <L3top> bonhoeffer: I haven't seen the xrandr output yet... and I am not positive, but do not know for sure, that you should be using a ppa... if you are on 1204 that is
[15:33] <TJ-> Yorke: the last one was for 10.04 I think:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/
[15:33] <bonhoffer> L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139443/
[15:34] <TJ-> L3top: He's using the PPA for a bug-fixed xorg driver
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> theres a i386 ubuntu? thought it was 486 minimum
[15:34] <bonhoffer> TJ-, +1 that i am
[15:34] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?
[15:34] <Hyperbyte> Is there any information somewhere on getting dual-touch screens working?  Right now the touch part of both screens spans the entire two-screen desktop.
[15:35] <gregor3005> Dr_Willis: thats the filename from the iso i have downloaded "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[15:35] <unless> Hello guys!
[15:35] <L3top> bonhoeffer: can you please sudo apt-get -yf install i965-va-driver   then log out and log back in and give me the xrandr -q | pastebinit   again
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> gregor3005:  i think that means its 32bit
[15:35] <john515> oy TJ- , how's it goin m8 ;)
[15:35] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: "xrandr --output default --mode 1904x1200_60.00"
[15:35] <bonhoffer> L3top, doing that now
[15:35] <TJ-> john515: evening :)
[15:36] <HSarena> I wanna to remove burg packages but  an error occurred here is that error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/
[15:36] <unless> My system is showing a error from time to time and I don know what to do, is there a simple way to verify what could be possible wrong here?
[15:36] <sambass> je veux que vous m'aidiez;  j'ai un problème sur le Tex. Au fait je veux mettre les figures dans la marge et je n'ai pas pu
[15:36] <john515> got some time for troubleshooting ? :P
[15:36] <L3top> TJ-: that looks like the xrandr he added, that is saying beyond range
[15:36] <jrib> !fr | sambass
[15:36] <gregor3005> ok, the device has an 32bit cpu, fedora i686 work on that device but i have troubles getting current fedora installed so i want to try if current ubuntu work
[15:36] <TJ-> L3top: if so probably needs a new modeline generating and adding to that output
[15:37] <kantlivelong> is something broken with gnome-screenshot in 12.04?
[15:37] <bonhoffer> TJ-, L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139453/
[15:37] <L3top> TJ-: I am pretty sure the driver translation of his hardware is at root of the problem. I believe no matter what we add beyond what is listed, it will do this.
[15:37] <TJ-> L3top: bonhoeffer I recall some time ago helping someone else with that monitor and having to create a custom modeline since the EDID top mode was wrong
[15:38] <bonhoffer> L3top, hmm. . . xrandr looks the same
[15:38] <TJ-> L3top: bonhoeffer jsut be aware, bonhoeffer had to reinstall Precise and install from the PPA just to get something useable
[15:38] <L3top> ok bonhoeffer... gimme a second.
[15:38] <bonhoffer> TJ-, and thank you for that
[15:39] <sambass> merci Ubottu , j'ai été de l'autre côté mais il n'y a personne
[15:39] <L3top> TJ-: yeah... i am thinking this is driver related, and no matter how we add this xrandr, it is going to explode.
[15:39] <HSarena> I wanna to upgrade software but it's shows this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/ plz help me...
[15:39] <jrib> sambass: seulement anglais ici
[15:39] <L3top> bonhoeffer: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2 | pastebinit
[15:39] <TJ-> L3top: have we checked for clues in Xorg.0.log at this point?
[15:39] <L3top> good question.
[15:39] <bonhoffer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139463/
[15:40] <bonhoffer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139464/
[15:40] <bammzach> hi, any quick shot advice why flash is not working on xubuntu 10.04/ firefox 14.01
[15:40] <bonhoffer> my xorg.0.log
[15:40] <L3top> can you reboot bonhoeffer?
[15:40] <bonhoffer> sure -- rebooting
[15:41] <L3top> confirm that the xrandr and the lspci stay the same
[15:41] <bonhoeffer> good thing i have two chat computers
[15:42] <Claximillions> What's the apt-get install name for network manager
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> Claximillions  nm-applet
[15:42] <TJ-> Claximillions: network-manager
[15:42] <Claximillions> Unable ty TJ-
[15:42] <Claximillions> Ty TJ- *
[15:43] <L3top> edid is being read correctly. It is driver related.
[15:43] <HSarena> what is this error????? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/
[15:43] <luftikuss> How to change the dispayed timestamp format in weechat 0.3.7 from hh:mm:ss to hh:mm?
[15:43] <TJ-> L3top: bonhoeffer That log shows the VESA driver in use ... it should be the intel driver
[15:43] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: how can i switch?
[15:43] <L3top> bonhoeffer: can I see your xorg.conf
[15:44] <luftikuss> s/dispayed/displayed/
[15:44] <L3top> it shows i915 as the kernel module in use... but yeah... it is using vesa
[15:44] <bonhoffer> L3top, where is that -- i don't think i have one in the standard location
[15:44] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: It should have automatically picked up the xorg-intel driver (the one from the PPA)
[15:44] <bonhoffer> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d <-- ?
[15:44] <L3top> then lets make one if it doesnt exist bonhoeffer. /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where it goes.
[15:44] <bonhoffer> yes, that definitely doesn't exist
[15:44] <TJ-> L3top: there was no xorg.conf last time ... log file shows none in use now either
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  idd, there is no xorg file by default
[15:45] <L3top> bonhoeffer: if you are using unity, please shut it down with sudo service lightdm stop
[15:45] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I think the issue right now is the xorg-intel driver not being used. Strange.
[15:46] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: That is correct... unless one has been created manually.
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf > TJ-
[15:46] <HSarena> I can't upgrade my package.... plz help... this is an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/
[15:46] <L3top> bonhoeffer: TJ- we are going to force it with an xorg.conf for the moment unless someoene has a better idea
[15:46] <da_> creating a simple bash script for temperature but this isnt working anyone know why? if [ "$TEMP" \> 23  &&  "$TEMP" /< 25 ] ;  then
[15:46] <bonhoeffer> L3top: TJ- i have to run, sorry, i'm missing a meeting
[15:46] <L3top> bonhoeffer: with X shut down, in terminal type Xorg -configure
[15:46] <L3top> bonhoeffer: ok then
[15:46] <L3top> Another time
[15:46] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: ok call me later if you need more help
[15:47] <bonhoeffer> any get smart links greatly appreciated
[15:47] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Coffee!
[15:47] <johni> anyone here has any experience with controling user's dn/up bw?
[15:47] <johni> on ubuntu.
[15:47] <HSarena> Hi! I can't upgrade my package.... plz help... this is an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139458/
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  is that the complete screen? i bet you've got sources from old releases
[15:48] <johni> i have 100mbit-FD connection with 1tb hd. i would like to add 4 users and limit each one of them to 10mbits and 200gb of hd. how can i do that?
[15:49] <StevenR> johni: filesystem quotas and some traffic shaping.
[15:50] <johni> could you be more specific please?
[15:50] <skpl> does anyone know why ubuntu 2d might be running slow on my machein
[15:50] <TJ-> johni for storage use "quotas", for bandwidth see http://askubuntu.com/questions/776/how-i-can-limit-download-upload-bandwidth-in-ubuntu
[15:50] <moin> I am using this command [iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876 ] to forward DNS udp packets to port 9876, where my java app is listening. However, that interferes with my browser-internet connection, is their a cleaner or better way to get packets [in/out]bound to port 53 forwarded to port 9876?
[15:52] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : Yes, when i want to remove burg, this error was shown : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139440/
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  what do you get when you type sudo apt-get update? anything different from precise?
[15:53] <johni> tj- this link is refering to limiting the entire OS, one network interface, single application. none of these are good for me.
[15:53] <johni> i need to limit a single user
[15:53] <blkperl> Hi guys, I'm trying to get Precise working with nfs mounted homedirs and on login dconf-service hangs, the open file is $USER/.config/dconf/user and when you try to ls it hangs as well.
[15:54] <moin> I am using this command [iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876 ] to forward DNS udp packets to port 9876, where my java app is listening. However, that interferes with my browser-internet connection, is their a cleaner or better way to get packets [in/out]bound to port 53 forwarded to port 9876?
[15:55] <TJ-> johni: You'd need to dig into the kernel netfilters internals; Shorewall can help you but its a complex task
[15:55] <StevenR> johni: how do the users access their 200GB quota?
[15:55] <TJ-> johni: I'd think creating a VLAN for each user would be easiest, then limiting the bandwidth on each VLAN
[15:56] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : no, works normally, nothing different
[15:58] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : but when i use sudo apt-get upgrade, this error was shown : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139492/
[15:59] <luftikuss> How to change the dispayed chat_time format in weechat 0.3.7 from hh:mm:ss to hh:mm?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  idd, try this   apt-get -f install
[15:59] <jrib> luftikuss: try: /set *time*    for starters
[16:00] <Arash> what does apt-get -f install do MonkeyDust ?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Arash  -f means fix
[16:00] <luftikuss> jrib: What do you mean by "for starters"?
[16:00] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : I try this but, please see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139497/
[16:00] <jrib> luftikuss: it will give you information which you must then parse
[16:01] <luftikuss> jrib: I will try.
[16:01] <jrib> luftikuss: for ignoring parts and such see the filter command.  Have you checked the weechat user documentaiton?  It's pretty good: http://weechat.org/doc/
[16:03] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : I try sudo apt-get upgrade again, but .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139503/
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  this lines comes back several times "Generating burg.cfg ..."
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> /usr/sbin/burg-probe: error: cannot stat `/boot/burg/locale'.
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> looks some locales issue?
[16:05] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : so, what can i do??
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> im thinking
[16:05] <Sansitazition> Anyone in here know if it is possible to use Daemon Tools to run a LiveCD?
[16:06] <luftikuss> jrib: I have found  http://weechat.org/doc/ already and I am studying it. I agree that it is pretty good.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> frankly, i've never used burg myself
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Sansitazition  in windows?
[16:06] <Sansitazition> Yes
[16:06] <discovered> Hey, I am planning to buy a core i7 MacBook which will natively supported by Ubutnu OS... Any recommendation please?
[16:07] <jrib> luftikuss: ok, just search for "filter" and the example there tells you how to ignore joins/parts/quits
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Sansitazition  daemon tools is to 'mount' a cd, is it not?
[16:07] <jrib> !mac | discovered
[16:07] <Sansitazition> Yes
[16:07] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : thanks a lot ;)
[16:07] <jrib> discovered: check the wiki (though I'm not sure the mactel pages are actively maintained still)
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Sansitazition  try it, the best way to find out
[16:07] <ThinkT510> discovered: don't macs usually come with broadcom wifi?
[16:07] <johni> TJ- thank you for the answer. but making a vlan for each user and then limit the vlan is not possible when you only have ssh root access right? you need access to the router itself no?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  maybe check your locales
[16:08] <gregor3005> problem: i want to install ubuntu on an 32bit cpu (intel pentium mobile 1,5ghz) i dowloaded the file "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso" and i  get "unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu". any hints? unter qemu-i386 ubunut boots up
[16:08] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : how??
[16:08] <jrib> ThinkT510: the broadcom wifi works fine in my experience (since the sta driver)
[16:08] <Sansitazition> Okay, I'll try, just wanted to know before trying.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> gregor3005  you need the 32 bit iso
[16:08] <sambass> jrib envoie moi ton mail
[16:08] <TJ-> johni: Hmmm, sounds like you have an unsolvable problem
[16:08] <Sidewinder1> gregor3005, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning?
[16:09] <jrib> sambass: i think it's better to wait in #ubuntu-fr, just be patient
[16:09] <discovered> ThinkT510, Dunno much about mac . I want to get one as it is good brand with nice configuration
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  i'm sure someone can help better
[16:09] <gregor3005> Sidewinder1: thx i check it and give you feedback (but under qemu it boots up)
[16:09] <ininin> hmmmmm
[16:09] <gregor3005> MonkeyDust: which file is the 32bit iso file? i downloaded "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[16:09] <HSarena> MonkeyDust : thanks ;) who??
[16:09] <ThinkT510> jrib: is the sta driver open source reverse engineered?
[16:10] <Sidewinder1> gregor3005, If it boots on another machine, the ISO is probably fine.
[16:10] <jrib> ThinkT510: i think it's closed and released by broadcom (don't quote me)
[16:10] <luftikuss> jrib: I have searched for "filter" and have managed to ignore joins/parts/quits successfully yet some time ago. --  Thank you.
[16:10] <jrib> luftikuss: ok great
[16:10] <johni> yea i could figure this out myself haha tj-
[16:10] <johni> :)
[16:11] <gregor3005> Sidewinder1: ok, but i though an intel pentium cpu like mine is an 32bit cpu that should boot with that iso, i download the 64bit iso and try it (but i'm really sure that this will not work on that older cpu)
[16:11] <johni> well thank you for your help , i believe for the second thing with the quota you do have a sloution for me?
[16:11] <luftikuss> jrib: WeeChats command grammar sometimes includes two '*' characters (asterisks). What do the asterisks mean?
[16:12] <jrib> luftikuss: it's like globbing in the shell, are you familiar with it?  Basically, it means "any characters here"
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> gregor3005, 64 bit hdw usually will run 32 bit software; not the other way around. Just d/l the 32 bit version and go from there.
[16:13] <luftikuss> jrib: Thank you for explaining.
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> HSarena  repeat your question every few minutes, i'm sure someone will pic it up
[16:13] <meo> hello, i have usb wifi tenda w311u+, rt2800usb, ubuntu 12.04,  3.3.6-030306-generic .  problem is the speed, download is max 100kB/s, and it feels even slower,  but on windows, it goes 7x faster.... any ideas?
[16:14] <gregor3005> Sidewinder1: thx, but why will the 32bit iso not boot on that laptop?
[16:14] <meo> umm ubuntu 12.04 x64
[16:15] <TJ-> gregor3005: your failed boot problem is probably because the CPU is old and does not support PAE (processor address extensions) ... Ubuntu only ships PAE kernels now... you'd need to install the mini ISO (which is, we believe, the only ISO with the non-PAE kernel in it)
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> gregor3005, I have no idea, sorry. You might try researching any and all error messages that may, hopefully, appear.
[16:15] <gregor3005> TJ-: ah thats sounds rigt, i search an non PAE iso
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> pae is what came to my mind
[16:16] <gregor3005> PAE is the extension to support more than 4gb ram on 32bit cpu's?
[16:16] <TJ-> gregor3005: We had it earlier and I couldn't find any definitive information, but several reports of non-PAE apparently booting using that mini iso
[16:16] <TJ-> gregor3005: Correct
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> TJ-, gregor3005 I am not familiar with PAE; all I know is that 10.04 desktop, runs fine on this antique machine, of mine; circa 2002!
[16:18] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: until Natty Ubuntu used the non-PAE kernels as the default but with more systems having large RAM decide to switch to PAE
[16:18] <HSarena> is there anyone has worked with burg???
[16:18] <Yorke> TJ-, how would i get ubuntu 12 on my ia64 if there is no install for it?
[16:18] <Vivekanand> Hi, I need help with Mobile Broadband in ubuntu 12.04.  Can anyone help me ?
[16:18] <gregor3005> TJ-: do you have a link for me to that mini iso? i did not find it on an mirror like http://ubuntu.lagis.at/releases/12.04/
[16:19] <TJ-> Yorke: You don't I guess... not unless you want to build the software yourself!
[16:19] <tking> h
[16:19] <aLeSD> hi all
[16:19] <Yorke> TJ-, ok thanks, debian has one, ill go with that distro
[16:19] <TJ-> gregor3005: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/
[16:20] <gregor3005> thx
[16:21] <Vivekanand> Anyone know how to enable Mobile Broadband option in network manager ?
[16:21] <theadmin> Vivekanand: "enable"? It should be on by default
[16:21] <netzapper> hey, I'm trying to install the proprietary AMD graphics drivers on my laptop (the ones ATI, not the package manager version). It's completely refusing to detect the laptop monitor as a controllable monitor. I've fiddled with the xorg.conf extensively, trying everything from the pregen version to no xorg.conf at all. None of it seems to enable openGL on the main screen/display.
[16:21] <Sidewinder1> TJ-, Are you suggesting that I will experience problems when I upgrade this antique to Precise?
[16:23] <theadmin> Vivekanand: Never mind. Huh. I can't find anything related to it in the repositories... That's weird
[16:23] <lingolatz> Hello all, I am doing a high school project regarding Linux distributions and ask that you would complete this survey at: goo.gl/SZ2Xw thank you :)
[16:23] <theadmin> netzapper: You accidentally a word. But why not the repo version?
[16:23] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: I believe but cannot confirm, that on an upgrade when there is a non-PAE CPU, the existing kernel is left in place. I *think* read that on the ubuntu-devel mailing list some time ago, but my memory is foggy
[16:23] <Vivekanand> theadmin, sorry I am laggin
[16:24] <Vivekanand> Mobile Broadband option in the network manager isnt visible
[16:24] <Vivekanand> it was there 2 days back
[16:24] <netzapper> theadmin: I did accidentally a word. Honestly, because I'm a game developer and I tell my users to use the latest official drivers, so it seems that I should develop on them. (Also, the repo versions don't come with all the delicious headers and extra libraries.)
[16:25] <Vivekanand> then I installed Mobile Partner software from the datacard after which i cant see Mobile Broadband
[16:25] <Sidewinder1> TJ-, Thanks for the response; if it does, it'll be a good excuse to debate a new system, with wifey.. ;-)
[16:25] <TJ-> Vivekanand: I think you need the "modemmanager" package and its dependencies
[16:26] <centrelink> lingolatz that's a terrible survey for a linux user
[16:26] <luftikuss> jrib: My command '/set  weechat.look.buffer_time_format = "%H:%M"' was successful. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[16:26] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: Well you don't need to worry... There are non-PAE kernels for Precise in the archives - they just aren't used on the main ISOs
[16:26] <lingolatz> centrelink, how so?
[16:26] <centrelink> lingolatz: wouldn't the logical answer to all those questions for a linux user be "yes"
[16:27] <lingolatz> Dang it. Wrong survey. One second, thank you centrelink
[16:27] <Vivekanand> guys anyone knows about the Mobile Broadband bug where its not visible in the network manager ?
[16:27] <FrozenFire> Does anyone have info on what the update schedule for Ubuntu (particularly, Ubuntu Server) tends to be?
[16:27] <FrozenFire> That is, when are updated packages released into the mainline repos
[16:27] <gregor3005> TJ-: the mini iso stuck after i select install :-(
[16:27] <centrelink> FrozenFire: major release every 6 months october and april
[16:28] <FrozenFire> centrelink, Nah, not distro versions. Package updates
[16:28] <TJ-> Vivekanand: Looks like its a partial known bug #955893
[16:28] <Vivekanand> TJ, checking
[16:29] <TJ-> Vivekanand: Make sure modemmanager is installed and I think nm-applet will show the "Mobile Broadband" tab
[16:29] <Vivekanand> modemmanager is there TJ
[16:29] <TJ-> Vivekanand: grrr! that's the easy solution out the window then!
[16:29] <Vivekanand> i checked it
[16:30] <TJ-> Vivekanand: let me check here what the source code in nm-applet is looking for to show that tab... give me a few mins
[16:30] <luftikuss> Vivekanand: You can prbably find that yourself in Launchpad by the catchwords »NetworkManager« and »Mobile Broadband«.
[16:30] <Vivekanand> sure TJ, thanks for ur time
[16:31] <Vivekanand> luftikuss, checking ... my problem now is I am online through Mobile Partner software issued by the device ... its speed is limited around 50 kbps speed, so taking time for me load pages
[16:32] <luftikuss> Vivekanand: Ah, I see. That's a handicap.
[16:32] <dylan_> How do I set up a static IP address?
[16:32] <dylan_> in Ubuntu
[16:33] <Vivekanand> luftikuss, yes
[16:33] <dbelwr> Hi, is it possible to configure more than one APN for a 3G card in network manager?
[16:33] <blkperl> dylan_: `man interfaces`
[16:35] <TJ-> Vivekanand: If you right-click the network icon, is there an option "Enable Mobile Broadband" ?
[16:35] <dbelwr> yes
[16:35] <Vivekanand> Tj, not there .... it was there before I installed the Mobile Partner software
[16:35] <lingolatz> centrelink, the correct survey is located at: goo.gl/sTuyW
[16:35] <Vivekanand> but its gone after installing it
[16:35] <dbelwr> i have configured 1 apn already but i need a 2nd which i can choose
[16:36] <TJ-> Vivekanand: "Mobile Partner" ... what's that? Is that something from Ubuntu?
[16:36] <HSarena> I try sudo apt-get upgrade again, but this error was showns :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139503/
[16:36] <Vivekanand> TJ: its the software issued by the usb dongle provider
[16:36] <TJ-> Vivekanand: That sounds suspect to me. It sounds like that software is the reason for this problem.
[16:36] <theadmin> TJ-: That's a Huawei program. Written in Java, manages their USB 3G modems.
[16:37] <theadmin> TJ-: Normally works fine...
[16:37] <kantlivelong> anyone here using 12.04 x64 and have openjdk working in chrome?
[16:37] <Vivekanand> TJ: i fully feel mobile partner is the culprit
[16:37] <Vivekanand> but I want to know to to get that option back
[16:37] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Appears to be impossible. Either use Chromium or Oracle Java.
[16:37] <OPPressed> Hey, I'm having problems with booting Ubuntu 12.04 and AMD fakeraid.. It worked fine in 10.04, I installed everything ok with the proper dmraid setup and installed GRUB too /dev/mapper/isa_bafhjbhdae_RAID_Volume1 but I'm still getting a no OS error with no grub
[16:38] <kantlivelong> theadmin: i meant chromium srry :)
[16:38] <OPPressed> should i install GRUB to an actual parition? ie the linux root parition
[16:38] <OPPressed> or do i need to make a /boot parition
[16:38] <Vivekanand> theadmin, its working fine for me, infact I am online through it now ... but its speed is limited i dont know why it doesnt connect to the 3g network
[16:38] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Huh. Then it's supposed to work just fine, just do a "sudo apt-get install icedtea-{6,7}-plugin"
[16:38] <OPPressed> none of the solutoins i have found on google have worked for me
[16:38] <theadmin> OPPressed: Uh, you install GRUB to the MBR of your drive.
[16:39] <theadmin> OPPressed: The configuration is in /boot, and it doesn't matter if it's a separate partition.
[16:39] <OPPressed> ok i did that though, i installed it to the fakeraid volume
[16:39] <kantlivelong> theadmin: yeah.. thats what i figured.. its a no go.. i see icedtea erros in chrome stdout/err. both 6 and 7 do the same
[16:39] <OPPressed> which would be the mbr
[16:39] <luftikuss> dylan_ Put it in /etc/network/interfaces. For more information, see 'man 5 interfaces'.
[16:39] <Mikie> Hi, I'm currently settings up a NAS running Ubuntu Server and I'm wondering whats the best option for sharing protocals.. I want to have NFS for my media center to connect to which runs a linux based OS but I also have windows machines that dont play well with NFS. Can I share everything through both SAMBA and NFS or is there a better way? Thanks
[16:39] <OPPressed> theadmin, do you know what I mean when I refer to fakeraid?
[16:40] <TJ-> Vivekanand: Is it possible that "Mobile Partner" software actually replaced the Ubuntu nm-applet ?
[16:40] <theadmin> OPPressed: Software raid I guess or something, but... I'm not into that
[16:40] <Vivekanand> TJ: , theadmin : any suggestions ??? shall i try to remove modemmanager and reinstall it ?
[16:40] <Vivekanand> TJ: I have the output of that installation, shall I share it ?
[16:40] <TJ-> Vivekanand: no, leave modemmanager. You need to focus on what that "Mobile Partner" installs!
[16:40] <TJ-> Vivekanand: please :)
[16:40] <Vivekanand> ok gimme me a min
[16:40] <OPPressed> theadmin, ok then what you said doesnt make sense
[16:40] <OPPressed> anyone else?
[16:41] <TJ-> OPPressed: You need to ensure GRUB has installed a dmraid driver... I'm not sure if there is one
[16:41] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Hm... Java works in Firefox but not Chrome/Chromium for me :/
[16:41] <kantlivelong> theadmin: chromium bug then maybe?
[16:41] <OPPressed> It worked fine with my last install(10.04) I forget where I installed grub for that setup though :(
[16:42] <theadmin> kantlivelong: I'd assume so.
[16:42] <dylan> I'm looking at man interfaces, I have no idea what this means
[16:42] <kantlivelong> dang
[16:42] <TJ-> OPPressed: It would. GRUB has moved on to a newer more modular system now
[16:42] <eph3meral> in XFCE, I'm having some weird issues where occasionally (not all the time, but very very often) when I click on a window and let go, it's as if my mouse hasn't registered that I let go, so the window is stuck to my cursor and I'm in "window move mode" until I click again - I have been googling for a while, but I have no idea how to explain this problem to google to get the results I want - has anyone else seen or had this problem
[16:42] <eph3meral>  on Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:42] <Vivekanand> TJ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139561/
[16:42] <eph3meral> sorry for xpost
[16:42] <Vivekanand> there airtel is the ISP name
[16:43] <eph3meral> not sure if this is an XFCE issue or an Ubuntu specific issue - afaik I'm not using the "ubuntu" xfce config, I just chose "default xfce config" the first time I logged in
[16:43] <dylan> How do I set a static IP in Ubuntu?
[16:43] <OPPressed> hrm
[16:43] <eph3meral> dylan, network adapters control panel
[16:43] <TJ-> Vivekanand: I think I can see why. It looks as if that package installs it's own CDC driver, which network manager won't know how to talk to probably
[16:43] <eph3meral> dylan, depends on your desktop environment, are you on Unity? (the Ubuntu default)
[16:43] <dylan> eph3meral: yes unity is what I am using
[16:44] <n00blar> hi there
[16:44] <theadmin> dylan: Right click the networkmanager icon, edit connections, find yours, click edit, go to IPv4/IPv6 tab and set the IP(s)
[16:44] <Vivekanand> TJ: I am clueless abt CDC
[16:44] <TJ-> Vivekanand: Also, you'll notice it installs a modeswitch ... that's to switch the USB device between storage mode and modem. I am wondering if that isn't happening and your PC is currently seeing the dongle as a USB storage device?
[16:45] <Vivekanand> TJ : the usb-devices output shows the device as usb-storage sometimes
[16:45] <dylan> theadmin: what is "netmask" and "gateway"
[16:45] <TJ-> Vivekanand: haha.  I see it installs "/etc/init.d/runhwactivator"  ... pastebin that script for me, lets find out what it is up to
[16:45] <Vivekanand> TJ: checked now too, it still shows as usb-storage .... ok pasting it
[16:46] <Vivekanand> TJ output of usb-devices ?
[16:46] <n00blar> im trying to install ubuntu... but it freezes when I try to install. it does not even start. boot the disk, shows a wallpaper, plays a sound, freezes. Same when I try to install Zorin
[16:46] <kantlivelong> theadmin: can u do me a fav and post the stdout/err u get from chromium? i cant access the PC having the issue at the moment and cant find the same err
[16:46] <theadmin> dylan: The second one would be your router's IP address... You don't *have* to specify the netmask if I recall correctly.
[16:46] <sanguisdex> any one have a solution data recovery?
[16:46] <Candlehawk> Hello, I have some minor issues. Last time I was here, my second monitor did not work, that was talked through and fixed, however dual-monitor+Unity=buggy as hell.
[16:46] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Alright, give me a second
[16:46] <dylan> ifconfig
[16:46] <kantlivelong> theadmin: appreciate it
[16:47] <Candlehawk> Basicly, my lense menu (or whatever it is called) is now pitch black, and a lot of the graphics are not showing up.
[16:47] <kantlivelong> theadmin: i think i found a report @ ubuntu.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/1031857
[16:47] <eph3meral> dylan, ok well in the top right of your screen, in the top "menu bar" there should be an icon for your network connection(s)
[16:47] <eph3meral> dylan, if you click this icon, there should be an option called "edit network connections" or something similar
[16:47] <Candlehawk> And the Unity icon bar is showing up on both screens, where one of them is black and the other is blue.
[16:47] <Vivekanand> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139570/ full output of usb-device .... last 2nd one is regarding huawei modem
[16:47] <eph3meral> dylan, click that, choose your connection, click edit, change it to be static instead of DHCP
[16:47] <eph3meral> dylan, done
[16:48] <Candlehawk> And also, whenever I try to click on a top bar menu item, it goes away right away.
[16:48] <Candlehawk> Basicly, all aspects of Unity have bugged out due to the second monitor.
[16:48] <MindALot> Question for those who know ipods : Anyone know of a Linux compatible music program that supports nested playlists on the Ipod classic/nano ?
[16:49] <TJ-> Vivekanand: looking
[16:49] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Well, here's what I get: http://hastebin.com/jowelikuci.txt
[16:49] <kantlivelong> theadmin: yeah that was it
[16:49] <kantlivelong> so then yes #1025553 is the correct bugid
[16:49] <TJ-> Vivekanand: now show me the simple output of lsusb so I know the ID the device is presenting
[16:50] <Vivekanand> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139578/ it is runhwactivator as u asked
[16:50] <kantlivelong> milestone set for 12.04.1 which is 8-23.. /me hopes
[16:50] <Vivekanand> TJ : --- Bus 002 Device 005: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/Networkcard
[16:50] <Candlehawk> Can I just get a responce? I'll be happy to wait until you are done with whoever first, of course.
[16:50] <Vivekanand> lsusb output for that device
[16:50] <Candlehawk> response*
[16:51] <mowol> I am having problems with several development environments on top of each other (avr, opencv, ros, c++, java etc), so i would like a way to seperate them. I was thinking of running all development environments through an instance in virtual box, sharing workspaces to the actual computer through ubuntu one (for backup purposes) and then use the actual computer to all other things. Any ideas or thoughts about this?
[16:51] <jrib> Candlehawk: if someone knows the answer, they'll reply
[16:52] <eph3meral> ok,, system update, still having the same issue(s) - totally weird, really hard to reproduce accurately also - seems almost random, but still happens a good 50% of the time I click on almost anything it seems
[16:52] <MindALot> hrm.. topic based subchannels.  You could select which topic you want to engage on. People posting new questions could open a new topic..and they could be closed once resolved... unfortunately, it requires work and knowledge, and not all of the current irc clients would support it. /ramble
[16:53] <theadmin> mowol: Likely won't work. VirtualBox uses shared folders as networked drives (I think it's samba) and you may run into many problems when trying to execute stuff from them
[16:53] <TJ-> Vivekanand: I think you need to remove the "Partner Software" ... from what I see, the Ubuntu usb-modeswitch already supports that device
[16:54] <eph3meral> mowol, TJ-, using SSHFS seems to solve that problem rather nicely from my experience, ymmv
[16:54] <mowol> theadmin:  i dont mean to actual use the ubuntu one folders as workspaces, but using it to share it when i need to backup
[16:54] <Vivekanand> TJ: i uninstalled the software and tried ... but the mobile broadband option is not coming back
[16:54] <HelpMeeee> Hi there. I want to install ubuntu but it freezes :(
[16:54] <TJ-> Vivekanand: looks like it broke something and doesn't clean up after itself
[16:55] <Vivekanand> expecyted that :(
[16:55] <eph3meral> HelpMeeee, check, the md5sum of your download first
[16:55] <HelpMeeee> whats that? Im totally new.
[16:55] <mowol> theadmin: i have a few friends who uses this methods on their macs, which seems to work very nice
[16:55] <Vivekanand> TJ: anyway to restore it ??? is that possible ?
[16:56] <TJ-> Vivekanand: anything's possible... if we can figure out what it's messed up
[16:56] <Vivekanand> TJ : :)
[16:56] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: I have never done anything like that, but have you considered using virtual environments for each one - shared core tools, but a separate path for each language installed in e.g. your home folder or /usr/local . You enter each environment with a command (that you could put into a script) like export PATH=/home/javapath/bin/:$PATH && cd /home/projects/java/
[16:56] <Shirakawasuna> or chroots
[16:56] <mowol> Shirakawasuna: its the depencies of packages that become the problem. If i try to install something i cant because i have the wrong version of something else etc
[16:56] <mdh> HelpMeeee: at which point does it freeze?
[16:56] <Vivekanand> TJ: do u need the content on the install scripts ???
[16:57] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: I see. So the only solution is to have both installed in separate ways, yes?
[16:57] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: so that e.g. a specific java dependency is one version and the one that c++ needs is another version
[16:58] <guest-l3lYMk> /www.rizon.net
[16:58] <mowol> Shirakawasuna: that's what i think will work best. And virtual machines are relatively easy to work with
[16:58] <HelpMeeee> on ubuntu it goes till it loads a background, then it makes a sound (like a bootup sound) then the waiting curser freezes. can still move the mouse, but nothing happens. no option to install, nothing. Same thing with Zorin.
[16:59] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: chroot isn't a bad idea there either, though others may know better. Since if it's virtual machines you'll be installing a ton of packages anyways.
[16:59] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: and you can also write little bash scripts to make entering e.g. the java chroot easy
[16:59] <mdh> HelpMeeee: i'd try to check the disc from the disc itself, because even if the md5 of the download is correct there could have been a misburn.
[17:00] <mowol> Shirakawasuna: hopefully it will be one-time-only installation of packages, so i wouldnt mind. I was just interested if any had done something entirely different
[17:00] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: You can then also control very tightly how minimal of an installation you want
[17:00] <TJ-> Vivekanand: If you can point me to where I can download the entire installer, I can run it in a chroot and see what it changes
[17:00] <netzapper> how can I control CPU scaling?
[17:00] <Vivekanand> TJ: i dont know the online location but I can zip those stuff and give it to u ... ok ?
[17:00] <MindALot> I'll take silence as an answer to no one knowing of a software program that supports nested playlists on an ipod classic/nano for Linux.
[17:01] <TJ-> Vivekanand: That should work
[17:01] <Vivekanand> ok, gimme a min
[17:01] <HelpMeeee> I burnt Zorin on 2 dvds, and ubunto on a cd. Im booting them directly from the disks. Zorin freezes on the same spot on both times. I dont think a missburn can cause that
[17:01] <Candlehawk> MindALot: Which ones have you tried?
[17:01] <MindALot> candlehawk : bansee and rythmbox.  I looked up clementine, and they said they don't support it (in their irc channel).
[17:02] <MindALot> I think banshee flattened my playlist on the ipod that I connected too :(
[17:02] <TJ-> Vivekanand: I think I've got the package direct from the Huwei web site
[17:02] <Candlehawk> MindALot: Damn, I would have thought either of those would have worked. Hm. Try alternativeto.net, perhaps?
[17:02] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: a chroot will have the advantage of speed and having everything still be on your local filesystem
[17:02] <ThinkT510> HelpMeeee: zorin isn't supported here
[17:02] <mdh> HelpMeeee: can you describe the hardware you're trying to install it to? have you been able to install other *nixes in the past?
[17:03] <Vivekanand> TJ: we dont know which one it is ... but anyways give it a try
[17:03] <mowol> Shirakawasuna: i will look into it ;)
[17:03] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: virtualbox has a bit of an overhead
[17:03] <Vivekanand> i'll tell u the version I am using here
[17:03] <Shirakawasuna> I use it all the time for windows and my cpu consistently hits 100% while idling >_<
[17:03] <TJ-> It has files included "MobilePartner" and the ndis source, identical paths to your log of the installer
[17:03] <KipIngram> So.  Every now and then my system just drops its network connection and won't reconnecy.  Rebooting fixes it - it connects *immediately*.  But that's a pain.  sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't help.  Any thoughts on a "sledgehammer" command sequence that will get the networking into its rebooted state without me having to reboot everything?
[17:03] <mowol> Shirakawasuna: that is also one of my concerns.. My laptop isnt that powerful..
[17:03] <Vivekanand> TJ: yea setup is same :)
[17:03] <Shirakawasuna> mowol: cool. Here's a handy resource: http://linux.about.com/od/ubupck_doc/a/ubupg26t01.htm
[17:04] <ThinkT510> Shirakawasuna: what are you virtualising? win98?
[17:04] <Shirakawasuna> ThinkT510: win7
[17:04] <Vivekanand> TJ it should have install_linux script which inturn calls Linux/insall script
[17:04] <MindALot> Candlehawk, looking around in alternativeto.net
[17:04] <Vivekanand> TJ thast the code flow in those scripts
[17:04] <MindALot> hrm.. I need to configure to use : instead of ,
[17:04] <HelpMeeee> Its a q8300 cpu, 500gb hdd, geforece 450 gts, g41 mobo. First time trying linux on this machine. the weird part is that it never actually gets to the installing part. before I can even click on the "install" icon it freezes. And I just thought about mentioning the zorin couse its ubunto based.
[17:05] <ThinkT510> Shirakawasuna: hmm, yeah win7 is rather heavy in a vm
[17:05] <TJ-> Vivekanand: You take a look at the one I have; compare it. www.huaweidevice.com/tcpsdownload/downLoadCenter?category=&flay=software&downloadID=NDAzMjM=
[17:05] <Vivekanand> okay
[17:05] <Candlehawk> MindALot: I dunno, I prefer , instead of :. This is just a new setup, I still get flagged when you do that.
[17:05] <fnoyanisi> hi all, I have xfstt error whenever I log into ubuntu 12.04, anybody having an error about xfstt ?
[17:06] <mdh> HelpMeeee: you might wanna try to burn and load a real ubuntu cd to see if it can boot into livecd mode, that might help us determine whether it's an ubuntu problem or a zorin specific one
[17:06] <itsrachelfish> Is there any way to increase the tx power of usb bluetooth devices?
[17:06] <MindALot> Candlehawk: well, the nickname would be the same either way, I just prefer the look of :, and you reminded me of that.  As for nested playlists, maybe I'll for myself to spend some of my free time improving one of the open source audio programs out there.
[17:06] <OPPressed> this is a real pain in the ass, specialy when the older version of grub worked fine with fakeraid/dmraid
[17:07] <MindALot> *force*
[17:07] <Vivekanand> TJ: its downloading at 1KBPS :P ... it should be the same anyway with some minr chnages, do check it
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> !info xfstt
[17:07] <TJ-> Vivekanand: sorry about that file, forgot you were on a limited connection
[17:07] <fnoyanisi> MonkeyDust : do you also have problem with xfstt ?
[17:07] <HelpMeeee> thats what im saying. it does do that on the ubuntu live disc as well. as a matter of fact, it doesnt even come as far as the zorin. zorin at least shows some icons, just cant click them cuz the freeze. Ubunto freezes before it even loads any icons.
[17:07] <Vivekanand> np, I can give u the firmwar, software and hardware versions
[17:07] <fnoyanisi> or ubottu ? do you have problem with xfstt?
[17:08] <Candlehawk> MindALot: Hm. Sorry that they don't seem to work, but if you get it to work that would be great.
[17:08] <bekks> !bot | fnoyanisi
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> fnoyanisi  nah, just curious
[17:08] <newbchessplayer_> does anyone know how to upgrade skype
[17:08] <fnoyanisi> bekks : it got me :)
[17:08] <newbchessplayer_> keeps giving me this "broken pipe" gzip error
[17:08] <alisson> Ai galera, existe um drive pra plca ati radeon x1250 no ubuntu que funcione 3d?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[17:09] <fnoyanisi> MonkeyDust : I sent a bug report several times, but realized that that bug has already been loged
[17:09] <Vivekanand> TJ: - software version = 21.005.22.03.284, firmware version = 21.157.31.00.284, Hardware version = CH2E303SM
[17:10] <newbchessplayer_> hello?
[17:10] <trijntje> !hi
[17:10] <newbchessplayer_> now i cant even install skype
[17:10] <mdh> HelpMeeee: it might be something with the desktop environment, ubuntu uses gnome3 right now with unity on top of it. Gnome 3 has a lot of problems with some hardware. If you want, you could look into installing zorin without a gui, and then use apt-get to install something else like MATE, or KDE, or whatever
[17:10] <TJ-> Vivekanand: It looks as if the installer messes with your udev rules, deletes a file, and doesn't fix it on uninstall... that's the 1st thing I've spotted
[17:10] <trijntje> newbchessplayer_: how are you trying to install skype? Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:10] <Vivekanand> okay-TJ:
[17:10] <arnsa> Hello
[17:10] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:11] <HelpMeeee> how do i install without a ui?
[17:11] <newbchessplayer_> 12.04 and im trying to install skype with the .deb from skype.com
[17:11] <newbchessplayer_> trijntje,
[17:11] <renato_> Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04..
[17:11] <newbchessplayer_> ^
[17:11] <renato_> Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04.. please send me a private message!!
[17:12] <fnoyanisi> newbchessplayer_ : I have 12.04 with skype working
[17:12] <ThinkT510> !mini | HelpMeeee
[17:12] <renato_> Can someone help me please? I have some issues installing adobe air on kubuntu 12.04.. please send me a private message!!
[17:12] <renato_> pleeeease
[17:12] <HelpMeeee> ok ill try that and see if it helps. thanks
[17:13] <renato_> Can SOMEONE HELP MEE?
[17:13] <mdh> HelpMeeee: i'm not really sure, i'm no ubuntu expert or a proficient linux user in general.
[17:13] <trijntje> newbchessplayer_: why not install it from the software center?
[17:13] <mdh> HelpMeeee: Wait are you trying to install regular zorin or zorin lite?
[17:13] <ThinkT510> !please | renato_
[17:14] <ThinkT510> mdh: zorin isn't supported here
[17:14] <savio> gays is there issues with wine in ubuntu 12.04
[17:14] <renato_> Well, i don't want to spam, i just wanted someone to give me a little help D:
[17:14] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:15] <sanguisdex> arnsa: are you running v12
[17:15] <arnsa> sanguisdex, v12 what?
[17:16] <mdh> HelpMeeee: I'd try to install the lite version of it if the regular one doesn't install. The lite one is based on LXDE, which probably has a better chance of running on your computer.
[17:16] <sanguisdex> arnsa: lbuntu 12.04
[17:16] <Shirakawasuna> arnsa: you may need to restart network-manager - sudo service network-manager restart. I was having both wired and wireless issues before I did that (one time only)
[17:16] <mdh> ThinkT510: I am aware of this, just trying to help someone out.
[17:17] <Candlehawk> Just to say I made a forum post and if anyone new is on that can fix my Unity issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162630#post12162630
[17:17] <marahin> Harro! I've got problem with TwinView, two nvidia graphic cards. 2nd screen is white, and xorg.conf keeps to setting "TwinView" in both screens to "0".
[17:17] <Candlehawk> marahin: I had that issue.
[17:17] <marahin> Candlehawk, did you fix it?
[17:17] <ThinkT510> mdh: if you want to help people with zorin then here is not the place to do ut
[17:17] <ThinkT510> it
[17:17] <Candlehawk> marahin: In the Nvidia menu editor, click the box at the top. Hold on, let me get the exact words.
[17:18] <Candlehawk> marahin: Yea, enable Xinerama.
[17:18] <mdh> ThinkT510: It kinda is an ubuntu issue, he says the ubuntu live cd won't boot. I assume this is because of gnome 3.
[17:18] <marahin> Candlehawk, Oh, I know. Although with Xinerama, i had an issue then with xrandr
[17:18] <marahin> then, for example, Display utility in Ubuntu didn't want to start ("randr expansion is not present")
[17:18] <renato_> Someone can help me with an issue on the installation of adobe AIR on kubuntu 12.04? please..
[17:18] <Candlehawk> marahin: Ah, I see. Did you save it to the X Configuration file?
[17:19] <marahin> Candlehawk, to the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" yep
[17:19] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:19] <marahin> Candlehawk, I am using Ubuntu since yesterday, Im pretty fresh here, sorry :P
[17:20] <Candlehawk> marahin: THat's fine, I'm here for an issue you'll probably have after we get your monitor to display correctly, Unity gets buggy with two monitors sometimes.
[17:20] <mdh> debian switched outta gnome 3 for some reason, i wonder if it's the hardware requirements
[17:20] <hattrap> hi room
[17:20] <trijntje> arnsa: have you installed the drivers for your network card?
[17:20] <marahin> Candlehawk, I see. May we get on PM, or something? So we won't flood here? :P
[17:21] <renato_> Why everyone helps everyone but nobody answers me?? -.-
[17:21] <marahin> renato_, chill. Patience.
[17:21] <marahin> Maybe no one has an idea how to help you, or something.
[17:21] <mdh> renato_: what is the problem you are having?
[17:21] <Candlehawk> marahin: Well, I don't know what is wrong with it now that my answer didn't work, so until I tell you another option, I'm stumped.
[17:22] <renato_> mdh installing adobe AIR on kunbuntu 12.04. I got an error about permissions and to contact admin.. But i'm admin >.<
[17:22] <marahin> Candlehawk, actually Xinerama works fine wih dual screen
[17:22] <renato_> mdh i even tryed to sudo su, but still not working :S
[17:22] <ThinkT510> renato_: i don't think many people here use adobe air
[17:22] <renato_> why not thinkT510?
[17:22] <marahin> Candlehawk, just the problem is that if I enable Xinerama, it also makes me having "randr" expansion off
[17:22] <marahin> it doesn't allow me to use it :(
[17:22] <bekks> renato_: Be more precise. "I am trying to do ... - I am expecting ... but I get ...".
[17:22] <marahin> and if I switch Xinerama off, then randr works just fine
[17:23] <Candlehawk> marahin: But you get a white screen then?
[17:23] <mdh> renato_: i believe it's because of the things that adobe does to open source users, like killing off flash upgrades
[17:23] <renato_> bekks, i'm trying to install adobe AIr. I am expecting to install it, but i'm getting an error so i can't install it :x
[17:23] <bekks> renato_: And we have to guess the detailed error and the command that causes it?
[17:23] <bekks> :)
[17:23] <marahin> Candlehawk, if I switch Xinerama off - yes, I do have a white screen on second screen. Although, if I switch Xinerama on, it works just fine.
[17:24] <renato_> mdh, so.... there is no way to fix it? i googled it and some people installed it it, but i can't.
[17:24] <Candlehawk> marahin: Where is this randr option? I don't see one for it. WHat does it do?
[17:24] <mdh> renato_: i'm sure there is a way, i jus't don't know anything about it, sorry
[17:24] <renato_> bekks, i said the error already. :/. I get it when i sudo ./Adobe.bin
[17:24] <bekks> renato_: We dont even got an error message - we have no clue on what to fix :)
[17:24] <OerHeks> renato, i cannot install Adobe Air either, it dropped support for linux.
[17:24] <marahin> Candlehawk, type in terminal "xrandr -v"
[17:24] <renato_> OerHeks i know, but i'm trying to install an older version.
[17:25] <bekks> renato_: You always said "an error" but not WHICH error in detail.
[17:25] <marahin> Candlehawk, let's go on PM, it'll be easier
[17:25] <renato_> bekks, yes i did. you probably missed some messages. "You don't have the permissions to install. Contact the admin of the computer"
[17:26] <renato_> mdh, thanks anyway for your help
[17:26] <bekks> renato_: And there is no more output at all?
[17:26] <savio> anyone using wine with 12.04
[17:27] <renato_> bekks, no :(. I tryed to install it as super user using sudo su, but doing that, sudo ./ won't even work :x
[17:27] <TJ-> marahin: Twinview is intended for single GPUs with multiple heads, not multiple GPUs
[17:28] <marahin> TJ-, oh, okay
[17:28] <TJ-> marahin: See Appendix G of the nvidia driver readme
[17:28] <trijntje> savio: probably loads of people, why?
[17:29] <TJ-> marahin: It's because "Both display devices share one frame buffer."
[17:29] <marahin> TJ- mhm, I understand now. Candlehawk helped me to understand the point of randr :P
[17:31] <savio> trijntje, wine forum says that wine is having issue with 12.04
[17:32] <ThinkT510> savio: what problem are you having?
[17:32] <savio> i am installing wine now
[17:33] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE, wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:33] <Candlehawk> I am having some issues with Unity due to my dual monitor setup. The GUI doubles on the other screen, and some graphical bits won't work, more details in my forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162630#post12162630
[17:34] <tPl0ch> Hi, how can I use an unstable version of a package (i.e. php5-xdebug)
[17:34] <tPl0ch> Can I add a deb to sources and pin the package?
[17:38] <JenLoveHewitt> can i only save-file to ~/Downloads/ ? for safety?
[17:40] <fnoyanisi> JenLoveHewitt : safety?
[17:41] <fnoyanisi> JenLoveHewitt : what do you mena by safety?
[17:42] <arnsa> guys what could be the problem, that wireless keeps disconnecting every ~10secs?
[17:43] <arnsa> the signal is very good
[17:43] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : maybe your laptop?
[17:43] <arnsa> fnoyanisi, hm but he worked before an hour
[17:44] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : my hp compaq sometimes goes crazy and mutes or adjusts voice itsely, or you can see the screen mode switch between normal mode and presentation mode
[17:44] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : I have tihs problem in windows, though
[17:44] <arnsa> but he worked excelently before an hour or so
[17:45] <fnoyanisi> but, It is a hardware problem rather than being an OS problem, since whe I had this problem 2 years ago, I just replaced my touch panel and it was fine
[17:45] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : did your try the traditional way? resetting?
[17:45] <arnsa> fnoyanisi I tried to restart the laptop, but that didn't help
[17:47] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : what about if you only use command line to use wireless
[17:47] <arnsa> well it doesn't disconnect, it just keeps losing the signal
[17:47] <arnsa> fnoyanisi what u mean?
[17:47] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : ah... this is another story then
[17:47] <savio> pm
[17:47] <arnsa> savio, u told that to me?
[17:48] <savio> arnsa, what are you using?
[17:48] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : I thougt, it may be some application that may cause you to connect/disconnect. so, thought it may help to use terminal login only
[17:48] <arnsa> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:48] <savio> arnsa, wireless keeps disconnecting
[17:48] <arnsa> fnoyanisi that could be, because I've been trying to install xfce, lxde etc today
[17:48] <savio> arnsa, is that right
[17:48] <arnsa> savio well it doesn't disconnect, it just loses the signal
[17:49] <savio> arnsa, did you try googling
[17:49] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-disconnecting.html
[17:49] <arnsa> savio yes, and what I found was only to restart wpa
[17:50] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : the link is crap....leave it!
[17:50] <arnsa> fnoyanisi none of these should be problem, because it started doing it before an hour or so
[17:51] <savio> arnsa, did you change any wireless setting
[17:51] <arnsa> savio as I said, I was only trying LXDE and XFCE, nothing else
[17:51] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : I suggest leaving X out for login, and try like that
[17:52] <arnsa> fnoyanisi what you mean?
[17:52] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : just try command line login
[17:52] <fnoyanisi> and try to dowload somethnig
[17:53] <arnsa> fnoyanisi what for?
[17:54] <fnoyanisi> arnsa : any possible modules/apps coming with XFCE that causes the problem
[17:54] <fnoyanisi> then at least you will have an idea
[17:54] <arnsa> fnoyanisi I'm running now unity but I still got the problem
[17:54] <mdh> why are there so many netsplits
[17:56] <acalbaza> is there a way to host a webapp that allows one to browse and read emails from the filesystem?
[17:57] <Crumbz> hey guys, don't really use ubuntu at all, is there a repo where i can download VLC via http?
[17:57] <marahin> Candlehawk, hello again. Are you there?
[17:57] <Candlehawk> marahin: Hey, yea.
[17:57] <marahin> Candlehawk, there's an issue I hadn't met before.
[17:57] <marahin> Candlehawk, now I have two task bars on two screens D:
[17:58] <Candlehawk> marahin: Same issue here, trying to get it solved but nobody seems to know what the issue is.
[17:58] <Crumbz> acalbaza, im sure there are. but why ask on an ubuntu channel?
[17:58] <marahin> Candlehawk, funny thing is that I haven't had that before on xinerama lol
[17:58] <Candlehawk> marahin: Also, to confirm something, try to click on a top bar menu, does it close right away?
[17:58] <Crumbz> is there a repo where i can download VLC via http?
[17:58] <marahin> Candlehawk, what do you exactly mean?
[17:59] <marahin> it's working normally for me
[17:59] <mdh> Crumbz: for what kind of system?
[17:59] <Candlehawk> marahin: The top bar, with file, edit, etc.
[17:59] <marahin> Candlehawk, yep, it's working fine
[17:59] <marahin> Candlehawk, on both screens
[17:59] <Crumbz> mdh, ubuntu. need a deb
[17:59] <Candlehawk> marahin: Ah, Well I have a seperate issue then.
[17:59] <Crumbz> mdh, it's for a system that doesn't have network access yet
[17:59] <nooooooooooooooo> I'm using a xfce + compiz setup. can installing kde / kubuntu-desktop break anything there?
[17:59] <mdh> Crumbz: lemme have a look, i might know one
[17:59] <mdh> brb
[18:00] <Crumbz> mdh, thanks
[18:01] <xyzzymaze> Hi all ... update today .. kernel 3.2.0-29-generic , probs with that update ... anyone else get that? Or has it already been discussed? thx ..
[18:01] <mdh> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib
[18:02] <mdh> Crumbz: that one might work, change squeeze to unstable if you want more current releases
[18:03] <Pici> mdh, Crumbz: Debian repositories should not be used on Ubuntu.
[18:03] <mdh> Pici: where is a list of ubuntu repos then?
[18:04] <OerHeks> !offline
[18:04] <Crumbz> i get it
[18:04] <Crumbz> im just looking for a .deb
[18:04] <Crumbz> i actually dont have access to ubuntu
[18:04] <Pici> mdh: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:04] <Crumbz> in any way
[18:04] <Pici> Crumbz: have you looked on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <Arthar360> Hi...I have  just installed kvmand installed Windows XP in it..Now when I enter in fullScreen mode, there remaing blackstrips on the left and right of screen..How to Avoid this and start xp in full screen (without the black strips) ?
[18:06] <Roy> sera
[18:06] <OPPressed> Can anyone tell me how to get Ubuntu 12.04 and Grub to a RAID0 fakeraid partition
[18:06] <OPPressed> I can install ubuntu but grub doesn't load
[18:06] <OPPressed> I just get a no OS error on boot
[18:07] <mdh> security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_2.0.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb
[18:08] <mdh> Crumbz: this might work if you just need a deb security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_2.0.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb
[18:09] <OPPressed> how can I boot into ubuntu without grub?
[18:09] <Crumbz> mdh, thanks - i appreciate the effort. i have found the packages on packages.ubuntu.com but the only problem is that i am installing it on a system without network access. so there is no real way to know exactly what dependencies it needs - without installing them all.
[18:09] <Crumbz> OPPressed, lilo?
[18:09] <Candlehawk> OPPressed: syslinux?
[18:10] <Crumbz> OPPressed, you can boot a live CD then chroot into the root partition of your ubuntu install
[18:10] <savio> Crumbz, give him a link
[18:10] <OPPressed> i want to boot the parition not mount it
[18:10] <Bastian_b> Hello
[18:10] <Bastian_b> How is called a script that is run at start up and is int init.d please?
[18:11] <Bastian_b> is in*
[18:11] <blake_> What's a good program to encode video to other formats, with a good GUI and fast encoding? (Need to convert 1gb AVI to 500mb OGV)
[18:11] <Crumbz> OPPressed, ok well you just need another boot loader other than grub
[18:11] <Crumbz> blake_, search your repos for ffmpeg, there should be frontends built for it
[18:11] <OPPressed> or does anyone know how to make grub work with fakeraid
[18:12] <Crumbz> ie in pthon, gtk or QT
[18:12] <blake_> Thanks Crumbz
[18:12] <Crumbz> np
[18:14] <savio> my firefox crash
[18:14] <savio> and it's not starting again
[18:14] <blake_> Crumbz nope, not in the Software Center.  I searched "encode video" and found Transmageddon, but it has bad reviews. I have experience with Handbrake but for some reason it's not in the repositories
[18:15] <mdh> blake_: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases
[18:16] <savio> anyone ?
[18:16] <mdh> savio: is it giving any kind of error?
[18:18] <savio> mdh, i think  bitdefender addon causing problem
[18:18] <marahin> Guys, is there any way of disabling 2nd task bar on 2nd screen? (Xinerama)
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> its in the settingz mR
[18:19] <OerHeks> savio, try " firefox -safe-mode "
[18:19] <marahin> Dr_Willis, wut?
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> displays  i tbink.  a check box
[18:19] <savio> thankx
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com shows where marahin
[18:21] <marahin> Dr_Willis, while using Xinerama I am not able to run "Displays", since of "randr" not working ("randr expansion is not present")
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> may be under some other tool.
[18:21] <marahin> that's why I am asking, because I can't find 2nd task bar option, lol.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> in 12.04 and 12.10 its a checkbox
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> check askubuntu.com im on my phone so cant look
[18:22] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i'm back! i just have a bare prompt -- when i left, you had asked me (or L3top did) to close x and build an xorg.conf
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> try the hud search. ?
[18:23] <bonhoeffer> not sure if either of you are still around?
[18:23] <C8H10N4O2> I have this Magento installation and I set up multiple stores.  Well each one needs to be mapped to its own address so I set up the hosts file and the sites avaialble files with correct posting here they are prc3websolutions.com/screen.png but when I go to local.sph.com it redirects me to local.sch.com
[18:23] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: I am, but i'm on a remote support link right now... will you be around for a while?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[18:23] <C8H10N4O2> Both of them are using the same document root but in the sites available i set the SetEnv variables to route them correctly
[18:23] <C8H10N4O2> but they done
[18:23] <C8H10N4O2> dont
[18:24] <C8H10N4O2> any help?
[18:24] <FloodBot1> C8H10N4O2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <bonhoeffer> ah . . . well i will, but i was hoping to use my computer, is there something i should google?
[18:24] <bonhoeffer> or anyone else know how to get a xorg.conf set up for a HDMI connector
[18:26] <savio> how to make brightness setting permanent
[18:26] <tmyklebu> when my code dumps core on an ubuntu system, where does the core dump go?
[18:26] <L3top> bonhoeffer: sudo service lightdm stop          then Xorg -configure; sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:26] <savio> in ubuntu 12.04
[18:26] <tmyklebu> i see that /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern is set to pipe the core to some shell script called 'apport.'  i don't really feel like reading this.
[18:26] <tmyklebu> python script, i guess.  but same difference.
[18:27] <bonhoeffer> L3top: i get number of created screens does not match number of devices. Configuration failed.
[18:28] <L3top> ls ~/xor*
[18:28] <bonhoeffer> xorg.conf.new
[18:28] <bonhoeffer> is there
[18:29] <L3top> yeah... copy it over
[18:29] <bonhoeffer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139748/
[18:29] <bonhoeffer> i'll copy that to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf, right?
[18:30] <L3top> correct bonhoeffer
[18:30] <L3top> then reboot
[18:30] <Guest92647> hi all i have a printing issue, when i try to print, i authenticate with the prompt that pops up, but then the file reamanis in the print qUe(under settings>printers) and i have to authenticate again for it to print. so is there something that can be done so that i don't have to authenticate twice for a doc to print
[18:30] <zack6849> hey guys, im having more issues yet again, i cant  use my dual screens
[18:30] <Guest92647> using 12.04
[18:30] <bonhoeffer> to reboot from a terminal, i type sudo init 6, is that the best way
[18:31] <itsrachelfish> Hi #ubuntu is there any way to disable the stupid Indicator Applet Complete thing?
[18:31] <zack6849> if i ubncheck "mirror screens" and then hit apply to make the dual screen setup i get the following error :requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 960), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[18:31] <Guest92647> bonhoeffer: you can just "sudo reboot" or shutdown - r now
[18:31] <itsrachelfish> I want to see my indicators. I don't want them all to be collapsed into one thing.
[18:31] <bonhoeffer> thanks, i know there is always a better way
[18:31] <Guest92647> bonhoeffer: np
[18:33] <trism> itsrachelfish: I don't understand, how else would you display the indicators? (I mean, you can split session from the rest, but that's about it at the moment)
[18:34] <bonhoffer> L3top, when i log in I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139758/
[18:34] <itsrachelfish> trism: In all previous versions of ubuntu/debian/windows/anything I've used, every application had its own icon
[18:35] <bonhoffer> so i'm at 1600 x 1200 now (!) TJ- , L3top (!) :)
[18:35] <itsrachelfish> I don't want to collapse everything into one little box because I use those icons to know if I have new messages or not
[18:35] <bonhoffer> but i would like to get to the 1900 resolution
[18:35] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: LOL getting bigger all the time
[18:35] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: true
[18:36] <trism> itsrachelfish: the notification area still exists, just not included in gnome-panel by default, right click the panel, add to panel, notification area (but not every app has a systray icon)
[18:36] <trism> itsrachelfish: sorry, alt+right click that is
[18:36] <trism> itsrachelfish: unless you are using unity, they you need to edit the systray whitelist
[18:37] <bonhoeffer> but i know the native resolution of the monitor is 1920x1200
[18:37] <itsrachelfish> trism: I'm using gnome with ubuntu 12.04
[18:37] <idroj07> Estoy perdido.. Alguien me puede dar la direccion para el canal de ubuntu en espanol?
[18:37] <itsrachelfish> alt + right clicking the top bar doesn't do anything
[18:38] <trism> itsrachelfish: gnome-shell or gnome-panel (classic)
[18:38] <ferni> bonhoeffer: sorry, didnt read the whole log.. but your cable connecting the screen is good enough for the 1900x1200 ?
[18:38] <Candlehawk> idroj07: esta #ubuntu-es
[18:38] <bonhoeffer> ferni: yes, i believe so
[18:38] <trism> itsrachelfish: sometimes you need to alt+super+right click
[18:38] <bonhoeffer> hdmi
[18:38] <cmiller_> is anyone here experienced with X11 forwarding?
[18:38] <itsrachelfish> Yeah alt + super + right click workeed
[18:39] <ferni> bonhoeffer: there are hdmi cables that are not capable od 1900x1200, i have one
[18:39] <bonhoeffer> ok, so maybe i shouldn't try it?
[18:39] <Candlehawk> Hello, I have had this issue for a little bit to no avail, Unity is bugging out with me having two monitors, the GUI is showing up on both screens, the Display menu isn't working and a few other issues that I have mensioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162740#post12162740
[18:40] <ferni> dont know, just guessing :)
[18:40] <bonhoffer> ferni, well, it is a good thought
[18:40] <itsrachelfish> oops.
[18:41] <L3top> bonhoeffer: I need to see an xrandr -q    how many screens do you have btw?
[18:41] <itsrachelfish> I clicked "remove" on what I thought was just the envelope thing
[18:41] <itsrachelfish> which removed everything
[18:41] <itsrachelfish> wat.
[18:41] <bonhoffer> L3top, one screen
[18:41] <bonhoffer> i'll pastebin that
[18:41] <trism> itsrachelfish: you need to uninstall indicators to remove them, sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages
[18:41] <trism> itsrachelfish: then restart the panel
[18:41] <bonhoffer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139778/ <-- L3top
[18:42] <bonhoffer> i hate how it is still default
[18:42] <itsrachelfish> Yeah but
[18:42] <bonhoffer> not HDMI for example
[18:42] <itsrachelfish> The clock in that indicator messages panel looked much nicer
[18:42] <itsrachelfish> This new clock looks like crap!
[18:42] <cmiller_> can anyone assist with X11 forwarding, i cant seem to get it to work.
[18:42] <trism> itsrachelfish: indicator-messages is only the envelope
[18:43] <itsrachelfish> Then why did everything get removed when I clicked remove?
[18:43] <itsrachelfish> And how do I put it back?
[18:43] <itsrachelfish> My user switcher, clock, bluetooth indicator were all removed
[18:43] <Dr_Willis>  cmiller_  mosh good ssh guides cover that topic.
[18:43] <trism> itsrachelfish: alt+super+right click add to panel, indicator applet complete
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> itsrachelfish:  you removed the whole 'icon tray'
[18:44] <trism> itsrachelfish: it loads all the indicators and displays them (indicator-datetime, indicator-messages, indicator-session, etc)
[18:44] <bonhoffer> L3top, did that xrandr help
[18:44] <L3top> bonhoeffer: backup your current xorg.conf and try this one http://pastebin.com/ZzKzUjJ9
[18:45] <bonhoffer> thanks
[18:45] <savio> anyone see algaton?
[18:45] <itsrachelfish> Dr_Willis: How do I put it back? Icon tray isn't an option when adding to the panel
[18:46] <bonhoffer> L3top, then, reboot?
[18:46] <cmiller_> Dr_Willis : I can SSH into the box fine. the problem is getting X11 to forward. ive researched the errors im getting and every time i fix one thing the error changes.
[18:46] <L3top> bonhoeffer: make sure you know where you backed up your old one
[18:47] <L3top> bonhoeffer: and yes... reboot
[18:47] <bonhoffer> i kept it in my home
[18:47] <bonhoffer> see you in 5 . . .
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> brb
[18:47] <trism> itsrachelfish: not Icon Tray, "Indicator Applet Complete"
[18:48] <bonhoeffer> L3top: i'm getting a special dialog to fix my graphics
[18:49] <bonhoeffer> should i reconfigure, troubleshoot or exit to console
[18:49] <itsrachelfish> There we go
[18:49] <bonhoeffer> or run in low graphics mode for just one session
[18:49] <itsrachelfish> I had to delete my dconf file and restart gnome-panel
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> cmiller_:  you are on 2 linux boxs or what exactly?
[18:50] <Haskoholic> is opengl avilable on ubuntu by default?
[18:50] <Haskoholic> (for programming in C++)
[18:51] <bonhoeffer> L3top: i'm going to terminal and to restore my old xorg.conf
[18:51] <mrdn> Haskoholic: it doesn't depend on the os, but on the hardware
[18:51] <cmiller_> Dr_Willis : currently on windows 7, have ubuntu server 12.04's vmware console up to make local changes.
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> cmiller_:  so you are sshing fro   windows into the vmware os?
[18:52] <cmiller_> Dr_Willis : I'm using putty, after i've started Xming, to SSH into the virtual server, and im trying to pull graphics over.
[18:52] <cmiller_> Dr_Willis : correct
[18:53] <bekks> vmware os (aka ESX) does not have a graphical console.
[18:54] <zack6849> guys can i get some help here?
[18:54] <bekks> We dont know.
[18:54] <zack6849> essentially my ubuntu wont allow mee to enable dual-screens
[18:54] <zack6849> it throws an error and goes back to mirroring
[18:54] <bekks> zack6849: Which error...?
[18:54] <zack6849> one moment
[18:55] <zack6849> Failed to apply configuration: %s
[18:55] <zack6849> GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code3: requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 960), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> cmiller i normally use the xming wizard to just open a xterminal, and not use putty
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> cmiller vnc or freenx may work well for you also
[18:55] <cndiv> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu system testing utility results are publically available? I'm trying to find out if brand new machines work well with 12.04
[18:55] <bekks> zack6849: The message is pretty clear - you are arranging your displays in a ways that you break a limit.
[18:56] <cndiv> specific machines, I mean
[18:56] <zack6849> D:
[18:56] <zack6849> bekks, how would i change said limit
[18:57] <bekks> zack6849: You cant. Arrange your displays so they dont break that limit.
[18:57] <zack6849> now how would i go about that...
[18:57] <cmiller_> Dr_Willis : Xming wizard crashes without an error when used.
[18:57] <bonhoeffer> L3top: i can't boot into a terminal
[18:57] <jmoiron> i figured out a big problem i was having with compiz 0.9.x;  switching workspaces was working quite terribly in gnome-fallback, but they work ok if you set the number of workspaces in cssm and the pager applet to the same number;  this breaks the pager, but switching workspaces works a ton better.
[18:57] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to get in?
[18:57] <L3top> zack6849: your virtual desktop size, which the window in which both windows must fit, is smaller than the combined size of your individual displays.
[18:57] <jmoiron> ccsm*
[18:58] <L3top> bonhoeffer: ctrl + alt + f2
[18:58] <bonhoeffer> after x starts?
[18:58] <TJ-> zack6849: It's telling you that the maxmium combined size of both screens is 1920x1920, but adding a 1280x960 to the right of another 1280-wide screen will result in 2560 wide - more than 1920 max
[18:58] <zack6849> L3top, i have no idea how to make that work right, because the displays im using arent the same size
[18:58] <bonhoeffer> i'm trying to run in failsafe graphics mode
[18:58] <TJ-> zack6849: the max virtual size is set by the video card's capabilities
[18:59] <zack6849> TJ-, how would i make it to where it didnt do that?
[18:59] <bekks> zack6849: And together, they are bigger than your virtual desktop size.
[18:59] <L3top> zack6849: well the easy way is to reduce the size of both screen resolutions.
[18:59] <zack6849> ...... are you serious? it worked just fine on windows.
[18:59] <bekks> zack6849: Because windows uses another driver.
[18:59] <zack6849> ...
[18:59] <L3top> zack6849: I do not believe the limitation you displayed is accurate. Looks like the wrong driver.
[18:59] <L3top> should be minimum 2048 x 2048
[19:00] <bekks> Nope :)
[19:00] <zack6849> L3top, the drive im using is straight from the additional drivers tab
[19:00] <bekks> On several ATI cards, the limit is 1920x1920 driver based.
[19:00] <TJ-> zack6849: Are you able to tell it they are positioned one above the other (even though I know they aren't) just to test that it will do both if they fit within the virtual size
[19:00] <zack6849> wow, the only screen res i can use is 800x600
[19:00] <L3top> really? Wow... didn't know that bekks...
[19:00] <bekks> Thats why I am refusing to use ATI :)
[19:00] <L3top> zack6849: in a terminal... please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:01] <zack6849> one moment
[19:01] <Haskoholic> && means also-do-if-previous-succeeds in ubuntu shell right?
[19:01] <anormuradov> if someone is using Lenovo T420 and up with Nvidia discrete cards, use nox2apic and nomodeset in the GRUB loading config
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Haskoholic:  in bash, yes
[19:02] <TJ-> zack6849: guys see this post: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1593326&postcount=4635
[19:02] <zack6849> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:02] <zack6849> oops
[19:02] <zack6849> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] [1002:6738]
[19:02] <Alamjad> hi there how are you
[19:03] <TJ-> zack6849: that link I posted shows how to fix it
[19:03] <GeekAdmin> I always get a "crash report" everytime I reboot. Using 12.04 with gnome classic. When I click details it says "Exeutable Path: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center".  Is this something I should be concerned about? Anything I can do to fix it?
[19:03] <L3top> TJ-: You cannot arbitrarily make that number up... the hardware must be capable... however... I would assume zack6849's card is now that I see it.
[19:03] <Alamjad> Hey guys could you help me please
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> !Ask
[19:03] <bekks> Alamjad: We dont know without knowing your question :)
[19:03] <L3top> But then... I didnt know some were limited below 2048... so clearly not as clever as I thought
[19:03] <Alamjad> ok thanks
[19:03] <TJ-> L3top: yes, I think it can too. I was helping hom yesterday
[19:04] <zack6849> TJ-, where do i find said config file?
[19:04] <L3top> zack6849: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:04] <TJ-> zack6849: Maybe L3top can help you on this since he's much more used to messing with Xorg than me!
[19:04] <Alamjad> my question is in this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/174073/sudden-error-message-during-install-ubuntu-with-wubi
[19:04] <zack6849> xD
[19:05] <linelevel> Hi, is there any way to make an ssh session persist over different wireless connections? Currently, if I open an SSH session while connected to wireless network A, then disconnect and connect to network B, the session hangs, but if I then disconnect from B and reconnect to A, it's responsive again.
[19:05] <TJ-> zack6849: NOTE!!! you have to change the device and screen names to match your system!!!
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> Alamjad: most people hate wubi. and will reccomend a full normal install
[19:05] <bekks> Alamjad: I'd suggest installing Ubuntu natively, instead of using wubi.
[19:05] <linelevel> I move around a lot with my laptop, so this is not ideal.
[19:05] <Alamjad> I ok
[19:05] <zack6849> okay, L3top what do you think i shouls set it to?
[19:05] <zack6849> i currently have this
[19:05] <zack6849> Section "Screen"
[19:05] <zack6849> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[19:05] <zack6849> 	DefaultDepth	24
[19:05] <zack6849> EndSection
[19:05] <zack6849> Section "Module"
[19:05] <FloodBot1> zack6849: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> linelevel: check out screen,tmux and byobu
[19:05] <TJ-> L3top: Do you know if "Device0" and "Screen0" will be correct? On Ubuntu I think it's "Default Screen" and "Default Device" ?
[19:06] <cmiller_> -_- now for some reason my openssh server isnt starting.
[19:06] <Alamjad> but do you think theres a problem in the BIOS of my laptop or it just aproblem in the integration of wubi tool with it
[19:06] <zack6849> http://pastebin.com/tV7ybfNr
[19:06] <bonhoeffer> L3top: TJ- i can't get to a prompt -- ctl+alt+f3 brings up a blinking line, no prompt
[19:06] <^BARrE|^> is there a program i can install to mount isos from gnome instead of command line?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> ^BARrE|^:  theres so me giso or similer tool. use the search feature of the software center. or seach askubuntu.com
[19:07] <TJ-> ^BARrE|^: this may help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-isos-easely-in-gnome-nautilus.html
[19:07] <bonhoeffer> can i boot non-graphic in grub
[19:07] <zack6849> L3top, what settings do you suppose i should use?
[19:08] <TJ-> ^BARrE|^: Ignore that link! it's for an old version of Gnome
[19:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Yes: remove "quiet splash"
[19:08] <linelevel> Dr_Willis: I've used screen before. Can you explain how screen (or tmux) with byobu will solve this problem?
[19:08] <nmvictor> how do I forward UDP packets on port 53 to port 9876? someone help
[19:08] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: will that save?
[19:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: and add "single" to stop loading the GUI and remaining with root privileges
[19:09] <Alamjad> hey guys I have this warrning message more than one time alerting me that theres problem of overheating specially after shuting down the Ubuntu
[19:09] <Salman> Who was i talking to yesterday?
[19:09] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Not unless you edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub afterwards
[19:09] <L3top> zack6849: I would follow the advice in the link by TJ-
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> linelevel:  not clear on your details. i ssh back to a server and my sessions continue. using it now..
[19:09] <Salman> *4se or someone
[19:09] <TJ-> L3top: but what device/screen names should he use?
[19:09] <TJ-> L3top: I think "Default Device" and "Default Screen" having looked at my local Xorg.0.log
[19:10] <L3top> one second I have a baby crawling all over... trying to grab all my networking cables... I need to find a way to distract him from the rats nest under my server.
[19:10] <linelevel> Dr_Willis: Say I'm connected to wifi at home and open an ssh session. I disconnect from the wifi network, close my laptop and move to my office, then reconnect to my office's wireless network. The ssh session does not respond (the terminal hangs). Then when I come home later and reconnect to my home wifi, it responds again.
[19:11] <zack6849> L3top, after saving should i restart?
[19:11] <zack6849> or what?
[19:11] <linelevel> Dr_Willis: I would like to be able to continue using the same ssh session that I started at home, at work, and vice versa.
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> linelevel:  what ssh client is doing that? mine disconnect when i move to the other networks
[19:11] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: i removed quiet splash and replaced with single -- but now i just get a maroon screen
[19:12] <linelevel> Dr_Willis: just 'ssh'
[19:12] <linelevel> OpenSSH client, I guess.
[19:12] <bekks> linelevel: Technically, thats not possible.
[19:12] <bonhoeffer> maybe boot with live cd and move
[19:12] <Salman> L3top: Hey remember me? The guy with sound probs. 2 days ago.
[19:12] <bekks> linelevel: You have to start screen on the host you connected via ssh, and you can reattach to that screen session using a new ssh connection.
[19:12] <linelevel> bekks: Are you saying what I want to do is not possible, or the circumstances I observed (getting control of the session back when I reconnect) are not possible?
[19:12] <bekks> linelevel: I just explained it in detail.
[19:13] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Try adding "nomodeset" too
[19:13] <bonhoeffer> i did -- booting live cd now
[19:14] <linelevel> bekks: yes, I see what you're saying. That's an acceptable solution. Can you explain (or point me to a reference that explains) why a persisting an ssh session across networks  is not possible?
[19:14] <linelevel> s/why a/why/
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> i set byobu to always startm if i move neteorks on my phone it disconnects, i ssh back in and it reconnedts
[19:15] <Salman> Sound Problems, Lubuntu 12.04, ATI IXP
[19:15] <TJ-> linelevel: it's perfectly possible. Once you've connected, start a "screen" session and carry on as normal. When you want to leave, detach from the terminal using Ctrl+A d  then on another PC establish a fresh SSH connection and do "screen -r"
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> the ssh client does disconnect.. then reconnects to the same shell session
[19:16] <TJ-> linelevel: "screen" allows you to detach and reattach to a terminal and it keeps processes running in the meantime
[19:16] <L3top> Ok... back... zack6849 I would restart, yes... bonhoeffer yes boot live cd... mount the drive... and sudo mv. The easy way is to click the drive in nautilus, and press ctrl L, it will show the path (usually /media/something), Salman... no... not really refresh my memory.
[19:16] <linelevel> TJ-: That works for many cases but is not perfect, e.g. if I'm editing a file locally over SSH (so I can use an X-friendly editor), and don't want to have to close the file an reopen it when moving networks.
[19:17] <bonhoeffer> L3top: rebooting
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> nothings going to be perfect
[19:17] <zack6849> it wont let me save the changes to the xorg..conf
[19:17] <zack6849> D:
[19:17] <nmvictor> Anyone help me with port forwarding of packets, I am using this command (sudo iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876) to forward UDP on port 53 to port 9876, but that affects my browsing till I do a reboot to revoke the port forwarding.
[19:18] <Salman> L3top: can you help me? Sound probs. You were helping me 2 days ago.
[19:18] <TJ-> linelevel: hmmm, well, change your method of operation and then it becomes possible
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> freenx ;)
[19:19] <linelevel> TJ-: Yes, I will :) I'm currently wondering about the technical details of why the SSH session itself cannot persist when I switch networks. Any idea?
[19:19] <TJ-> linelevel: why not combine it with rsync so you can work on a local copy, then when you reconnect rsync the local version to the remote host?
[19:19] <mamu> Use mosh
[19:19] <TJ-> linelevel: because it's an encrypted point-to-point link.
[19:20] <linelevel> TJ-: well, because then I have an extra step (rsync), and I may be editing dozens of files at a time in different directory trees.
[19:20] <mamu> Its a kind of ssh and persists even an ip switch
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> your ip changes....
[19:20] <marhabas> hi
[19:20] <mamu> Ok an ip change
[19:20] <mamu> Sorry
[19:20] <TJ-> linelevel: script it
[19:22] <TJ-> mosh still disconnects the link... and uses SSH .. its just masking the 'screen' usage
[19:22] <TJ-> and from what I read, mosh can't do what linelevel wanted, preserve local editing sessions
[19:23] <Salman> PLZ help sound probs lubuntu 12.04
[19:26] <Salman> W4sp: hey
[19:26] <Salman> sww
[19:26] <Salman> aww
[19:28] <Salman> W4sp: hey. still no sound
[19:28] <GeekAdmin> I always get a "crash report" everytime I reboot. Using 12.04 with gnome classic. When I click details it says "Exeutable Path: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center".  Is this something I should be concerned about? Anything I can do to fix it?
[19:28] <W4sp> Hey Salman. No luck at all?
[19:29] <Salman> W4sp:nope
[19:29] <semarjt> anyone else here use yakuake
[19:29] <W4sp> Salman: Do you have that 'plopp' when it starts?
[19:29] <semarjt> I notice that hwen i switched to 12.04 yakuake no longer gives focus bck to the previous menu after closing
[19:30] <Salman> W4sp: No
[19:30] <semarjt> actaully..hm, it does..for xchat, but not Konsole
[19:30] <semarjt> weird
[19:30] <W4sp> Salman: So that one disappeared? Strange. I found something after you left.
[19:31] <Salman> W4sp: yes?
[19:32] <W4sp> Salman: There's seemingly a difference between AC 7 and AC97 wrt the physical connections. That said, I'm not into the hardware but I understand that the way how speaker are connected to AC 7 and AC97 is different.
[19:32] <Salman> W4sp: so i can't get sound in linux ever?
[19:33] <minimec> GeekAdmin: Probably not. Somehow the gnome-control-center does not start. Can you start it in a terminal? If you want that annoying message 'gone', set /etc/default/apport 'enabled=0'
[19:34] <W4sp> Salman: I would suggest you check if that's really the case. It would mean that you probably will get sound with a different driver. That said, it is definitely worth seaching with my finding is correct. IF so, perhqps there is a way to modify the driver. Regrettably I'm not into this sort of things.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> Salman, Ironically there is a #yakuake channel 7 users though
[19:34] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  thanks I'll try
[19:35] <semarjt> hrm actually looks to be a Konsole bug, works for everything else
[19:35] <semarjt> huh
[19:35] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  yes it does start in the terminal
[19:35] <Salman> W4sp: how would i do that?
[19:35] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  how do I enable /etc/default/apport to "enabled=0"?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> sorry Salman semarjt  Ironically there is a #yakuake channel 7 users though
[19:36] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  /etc/default/apport is just an empty file
[19:36] <minimec> GeekAdmin: 'sudo gedit /etc/default/apport' --> read the text and make your choice.
[19:36] <Salman> wilee-nilee: i don't understand
[19:36] <minimec> GeekAdmin: Ok. Wait...
[19:36] <semarjt> wilee-nilee looks to be an issue with Konsole
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Salman, I posted a message to you by acident. ;)
[19:37] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  nevermind. I must have spelled it wrong. THANKS
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> semarjt, cool just wanted to make sure you had any resource needed. ;)
[19:37] <minimec> GeekAdmin: ;) And I had the pastebin ready... http://pastebin.com/9mVX0TNm
[19:37] <GeekAdmin> minimec:  thanks for your support.
[19:37] <W4sp> Salman: I can't find the URL at themoment, I bookmarked it though.
[19:37] <minimec> GeekAdmin: No problem
[19:39] <W4sp> Salman: I would contact the amufacturer emachine or what was it?
[19:39] <klj613> when i click download a deb. open with software centre. why does it say not found? :-/
[19:39] <Salman> W4sp: Yes Emachines. But i don't want to to call.
[19:40] <W4sp> Salman: I don't think that's neccessary. Can you not contact them otherwise?
[19:41] <Salman> W4sp: no.
[19:49] <TheMadDrizzle> Anyone in here?
[19:50] <bekks> TheMadDrizzle: Why?
[19:50] <thiebaude> iam,lol
[19:50] <TheMadDrizzle> I'm looking for a bit of help
[19:50] <bekks> !ask | TheMadDrizzle
[19:51] <TheMadDrizzle> Alright, I'm trying to create a live cd enviornment for ArchLinux to dual boot alongside my current Ubuntu install.
[19:51] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?
[19:51] <TheMadDrizzle> I've already got my usb stick formatted, DD'd the arch linux distro into it and when I reboot, it just sits there.
[19:52] <bekks> TheMadDrizzle: And how is that related to Ubuntu?
[19:52] <W4sp> Salman: I would assume it is one of those premium lines. :-(
[19:52] <W4sp> Salman: Just figure out if the data sheet is wrong or whast the difference is. I cannot image you will not get any sound. But I really can't get a graps on it why they list AC7 and the video device as ~200 when the driver is AC97 and video ~300.
[19:52] <TheMadDrizzle> It's not- I was hoping that someone here would have some kind of experience with it though.
[19:53] <bekks> TheMadDrizzle: You'd better ask in #archlinux then :)
[19:54]  * W4sp .oO Today's youth has no patience anymore.
[19:55] <zloog2> My computer is randomly powering off when running linux, but is rock stable on windows. Any suggestions on what to look for?
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> W4sp  said plato a few 1000 years ago
[19:56] <W4sp> MonkeyDust: Are there no improvements since then?
[19:57] <TJ-> zloog2: might be worth checking the log file, /var/log/kern.log for clues
[19:57] <minimec> zloog2: 'Powering off' means random shutdown of the system or 'system freeze'?
[19:58] <zloog2> Will do, thanks. Given how fast everything dies, im not sure if it would have time to write to the log.
[19:58] <zloog2> Minimec: it acts like i just pulled the power cord out of it. Then it immediately starts POSTing
[19:58] <TJ-> zloog2: agreed... but there might be some precursor indications
[19:59] <TJ-> zloog2: That sounds rather like a voltate regulator fault, from my experience
[19:59] <minimec> zloog2: That could be some kind of 'kernel panic'. As stated, check the kernel logs in /var/log...
[20:00] <TJ-> zloog2: could it be that cooling isn't operating when using linux and the overheat thermal cutout operates?
[20:00] <zloog2> TJ- thats what I would think as well, but ive spent the last few weeks gaming pretty heavily on windows. Id imagine if it was a power/hardware problem the issue would have poped up on windows.
[20:00] <minimec> zloog2: What kind of system are you on? Some Ivy bridge with internal HD4000 GPU?
[20:00] <Wings> Hey there
[20:00] <zloog2> Kk, lessing thru kern.log now
[20:00] <garydance> hey guys how do I switch from ubuntu to lubuntu on the newest version of ubuntu?
[20:01] <Wings> I'm trying to install XCP-XAPI and having some issues... Ubuntu 12.04, 64-bit version
[20:01] <Wings> the issue I'm having is that it's showing ~3.2GB of RAM total and I've got 8GB
[20:01] <TJ-> zloog2: not if the linus side isn't correctly controlling the thermal properties... not backing off the CPU core speeds, not operating the fans
[20:01] <TJ-> zloog2: it's not unknown... used to be pretty common on laptops couple years ago
[20:01] <Wings> it only shows the incorrect amount when I'm booted into Xen mode
[20:01] <Wings> if I boot normally it shows around 7.99GB
[20:01] <zloog2> TJ- aye, not sure how to check those things in linux. Any suggestions?
[20:02] <OerHeks> garydance, logout, change DM and log back in again
[20:02] <TJ-> zloog2: not had issues that way for ages, but you can do thermal monitoring
[20:02] <garydance> OerHeks, I am not sure  how to do that with the new login screen though
[20:03] <zloog2> Thanks again.
[20:03] <OerHeks> garydance, well, try it?
[20:03] <TJ-> zloog2: this might point you in the right direction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1696619
[20:03] <brahman_> hello
[20:03] <garydance> OerHeks, I am not sure how to change the display manager though
[20:04] <oscailt> Hello, World!
[20:04] <brahman_> just checking
[20:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hrm, where do I find sha256 sums of the isos?
[20:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or something stronger than MD5 at least.
[20:05] <trism> Eduard_Munteanu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/SHA256SUMS (or substitute for the release you want)
[20:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> trism: thanks.
[20:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> trism: can you find those if you navigate from the main page of ubuntu.com?
[20:06] <zloog2> Will take a look
[20:06] <TJ-> zloog2: see the xsensors comment on this for a recent 12.04 facility http://askubuntu.com/questions/129432/is-there-a-temparature-monitor-application-for-ubuntu-11-10
[20:06] <OerHeks> garydance, select your name, password and press the '>' to select DM
[20:07] <trism> Eduard_Munteanu: perhaps, but I don't know how
[20:08] <josheee12> hey, guys.  is there any application i could use to pipe my headset (mic+headphones) via bluetooth to my phone with a2dp?
[20:09] <pdeee> I'm trying to recover some ecryptfs'd data off a box that has some disk errors
[20:10] <vaks> sounds fun pdeee
[20:10] <pdeee> The machine will boot into single user/recovery mode, but a full boot trips on too many of the traumatised sectors
[20:10] <pdeee> does anyone know what the minimum set of services to start are to get a login prompt running?
[20:10] <sporkboy> okay. I want my battery meter up. when I go to power settings, the option for that is blank, and if I set it, it doesn't stay.
[20:10] <sporkboy> Also, jupiter's options for screen size, etc are now all empty.
[20:10] <vaks> are you talking about when booting linux pdee?
[20:11] <pdeee> (I have been messing around with the ecryptfs command line, but that's causing me more misery than success, I figure it would be a lot easier if I could make login/PAM do the work for me
[20:11] <vaks> oh maybe what you are doing is above my head
[20:11] <bieb> anyone using Centrify to connect to Active Directory?
[20:11] <vaks> but i've always been able to get files off a broken hard drive with linux, you can boot straight from the CD and not even use the hd
[20:12] <minimec> josheee12: ?? ubuntu uses a2dp as default for bluetooth audio. I don't know what exactly you want to do, but if you connect a bluetooth headset to ubuntu, you get a2dp and you can manage the output in the volume control setttings.
[20:12] <rikomancien> # essai
[20:13] <josheee12> minimec: i want to essentially use my computer as the bluetooth headset with my phone receiving the audio as a2dp, so i can use my headset to make calls.
[20:14] <TJ-> josheee12: Your PC is the HCI host, not a slave device. You'd have to write some fancy bits to achieve host-to-host pass through like that
[20:14] <stroodlepup> what is the name of the multiple monitor settings app used in 12.04?
[20:15] <minimec> josheee12: So you want to create a new audio device on your computer, and the phone should see that one as normal bluetooth audio device, on which you can connect to? Is that correct?
[20:15] <biifer_> stroodlepup: I use NVIDA X Server Serrigns
[20:16] <TJ-> stroodlepup: for nvidia graphics = nvidia x settings ... for non-proprietary its the xrandr front end in the "Displays" system settings tray
[20:16] <stroodlepup> what about the default app?\
[20:16] <stroodlepup> the xrandr frontend...
[20:16] <stroodlepup> what is it called?
[20:16] <josheee12> minimec: yes.  well, not create a new output device as much as essentially turn my desktop's audio input and output into a handsfree setup.
[20:17] <TJ-> stroodlepup: part of the gnome-control-center applets, not sure which it is
[20:17] <shazbotmcnasty> I never thought audio input and output to be hands-on.
[20:17] <klj613> how do i uninstall steam from winetricks? doesn't seem to be a uninstall command
[20:17] <TJ-> stroodlepup: but on my system it is launched using "gnome-control-center display"
[20:17] <minimec> josheee12: I guess you will have to create something like a 'bluetooth audio reciever'. Otherwise your phone will not see the computer as audio device I guess.
[20:18] <klj613> nevermind, was just a simple rm -rf
[20:18] <TJ-> josheee12: You'd have to put Bluez into slave mode to begin with I guess
[20:18] <minimec> josheee12: I would look for something like this... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1464189.html
[20:19] <josheee12> i'll keep reading, thanks
[20:19] <minimec> josheee12: Sorry... Will be offline now for a while. Hope the link I gave you points you in the right direction.
[20:20] <minimec> josheee12: http://jprvita.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/1-2-3-4-a2dp-stream/
[20:20] <TJ-> josheee12: see the hciconfig man-page too
[20:20] <josheee12> thanks
[20:24] <usuario_> aa
[20:24] <usuario_> a
[20:24] <usuario_> a
[20:24] <usuario_> aa
[20:25] <usuario_> a
[20:25] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <danil> Is there a way to make my two monitors display different workspaces instead of different parts of one giant workspace?
[20:27] <Guest21743> hello
[20:27] <rustler770> I keep getting error message: Required plugins could not be found in Rhythmbox. text/html decoder anyone know the answer?
[20:27] <akio> So I see we need a remix just to get gnome shell working in 12.04. Is that true? Tried using the gnome ppa and gdm won't give me a session for it.
[20:27] <Oxicore> ?
[20:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oxicore: ??
[20:28] <Guest21743> I'm having a problem with my wifi after installing ubuntu12.04
[20:29] <Guest21743> hey can anybody help me with my wifi problem
[20:29] <Guest21743> hello
[20:30] <Guest21743> hello
[20:30] <IdleOne> !details | Guest21743
[20:30] <Guest21743> I have a problem with my wifi
[20:30] <bonhoffer> L3top, ok, i got everything working again -- still interested in how i can get real resolutions
[20:31] <Guest21743> i installed ubuntu 12.04
[20:31] <bonhoffer> it is much better, but still pretty rough
[20:31] <xwalk_> Is there any reason why kernel upgrades are held back when using apt-get upgrade to update the packages?
[20:31] <m2kolev> can anybody help me figure out how to turn on anti aliasing for netbeans under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:31] <m2kolev> I tried editing the netbeans.conf with the settings provided on google but it doesnt do anything
[20:31] <shinao1> hi! Im trying to sync my ubuntu 12.04 Evolution with funambol using sync-ui. Ive successfully synced, but I dont see anything in Evolution.. but I get successful sync reports. Can someone tell me what Im missing?
[20:31] <IdleOne> xwalk_: use dist-upgrade
[20:32] <Shinobi> is there any way to install xfce, but not default to a GUI session. I want to boot to a command prompt and start x as needed.
[20:32] <paladon> hello can someone help me? I cannot let my wifi work on dell 17 under ubuntu (right now I am again under windows)
[20:32] <Guest21743> i have downloaded the hardware but it still will not show a wifi connection
[20:33] <Guest21743> Pladon I"m having the same problem
[20:33] <bonhoffer> i just installed a wine program, but how can i run it?
[20:33] <Guest21743> no WIFI
[20:33] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?
[20:34] <paladon> i cant find it on askubuntu
[20:34] <Guest21743> any help with wifi
[20:34] <paladon> something that works
[20:38] <m2kolev> anybody?
[20:38] <shinao1> hi! Im trying to sync my ubuntu 12.04 Evolution with funambol using sync-ui. Ive successfully synced, but I dont see anything in Evolution.. but I get successful sync reports. Can someone tell me what Im missing?
[20:43] <bonhoffer> anyone know to run an installed wine app?
[20:43] <iptablesHelp01> Some one familia with packet routing to assist me here. I want to route all incoming trafic on port 53 to some other port, what is the right command to use?
[20:44] <holifild> Dzień dobry :)
[20:45] <iptablesHelp01> Some one familia with packet routing to assist me here. I want to route all incoming trafic on port 53 to some other port, what is the right command to use?
[20:45] <andreshenriquez> hello... first excuses for mi english... i need install office with wine or playonlinux... somebody can help me? please
[20:46] <knobydobs> Why do you want to do that - you can use openoffice
[20:46] <knobydobs> or libreoffice
[20:47] <iptablesHelp01> How do i forward all incoming traffic on port 53 to another port,?
[20:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: see the REDIRECT target
[20:48] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: thanks for coming in to help
[20:49] <knobydobs> andreshenriquez: Why do you want to do that - you can use openoffice
[20:49] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: actually, I am not sure what I am not doing right, infact I am not sure what is right :)
[20:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: how do you mean?
[20:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> If you suspect it's an XY problem, then it's probably better to start with what you want to accomplish.
[20:50] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: what I want is to have DNS UDP packets routed to some port say 9876
[20:50] <knobydobs> @andreshenriquez: Why do you want to do that - you can use openoffice
[20:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: routed how or why?
[20:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: so far it still sounds like you want the REDIRECT target.
[20:52] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: to be precise, I would want to have the packets from the DNS servers, I mean the packets whose DNS query has been anwered, not the packets from my system requesting for DNS service via port 53, if you know what I mean
[20:52] <Shinobi> any way to boot to terminal with xfce installed?
[20:52] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: yea its definately redirect
[20:52] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: I guess
[20:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: do you need to grab packets *not* intended for your machine?
[20:53] <Candlehawk> Shinobi: at grub select restore mode and boot to root terminal with networking enabled?
[20:54] <Shinobi> I want xfce but only when I startx
[20:54] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: sudo iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876  , I am using that, but that gets the packets from my system headed for DNS Server, what I want is to get the packets from the DNS server to my machine
[20:54] <Eduard_Munteanu> Shinobi: startxfce or provide an .xinitrc
[20:54] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: ah, you need to do it in POSTROUTING
[20:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: erm, PREROUTING
[20:55] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: thanks, we are getting somewhere
[20:55] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: so I am completely unfamiliar with DNS and I would appreciate your assistance
[20:55] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: mind for a PM?
[20:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> Well, we can talk in here. I might leave soon and someone else can pick it up.
[20:56] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry, I meant unfamiliar with iptables and port forwarding or whatever ....
[20:56] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: /msg hi
[20:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: you also want --sport I think
[20:58] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: so, if you were to acomplish what I'm looking to accomplish, how would you go about it?
[20:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: that iptables rule needs a few modifications
[20:58] <WHAT_UP> if i'm running a personal web server that would be nice if it stays active but not a huge disaster if it goes down, is it worth using unattended-upgrades for automatically updating? if so, should i just go for security or for both security and regular updates?
[20:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> And should do it.
[20:59] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: what modifications ?
[20:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> I think you want   iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --sport domain -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9876
[20:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: ^^
[21:00] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: ha,  let me give that a shot!
[21:00] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: I appreciate your help, really
[21:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> No problem :)
[21:00] <usr13> WHAT_UP: Not sure exactly what you're asking, but updates aren't gonna kill a webserver.
[21:01] <WHAT_UP> usr13: and regular updates?
[21:01] <usr13> yea
[21:01] <danil> C-x 5 o (switch focus to other window) in emacs is teleporting my mouse between screens as of 12.04 -- any ideas about how to stop that from happening?
[21:01] <WHAT_UP> usr13: :). thanks :)
[21:01] <usr13> WHAT_UP: NP
[21:01] <xxghostxx> What permissions does debian-sys-maint require on mysql? right now it has all privs and grant...i don't think it needs all that
[21:01] <xxghostxx> Google was zero help
[21:01] <WHAT_UP> =PCP(log n, 1)
[21:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: you might also want to match on the destination address, but that should do for now.
[21:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> -d your_ip
[21:03] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: well that seems to do something, but it doesnt get the packets to my target Application
[21:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: did the rule match? (see the iptables counters)
[21:04] <xxghostxx> anyone know what permissions debian-sys-maint needs, at minimum, to perform its function?
[21:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: if you don't have ip forwarding on, I think you might need to specify the IP address of that same interface, not 127.0.0.1
[21:04] <xxghostxx> on MySQL
[21:04] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: The application is stuck at "waiting for packets ...", with the inital command, it was receiving the packets but the wrong one
[21:05] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: Will I need to enable ip forwarding or what? And how is that done?
[21:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: no, use tcpdump to check the packets and see if they fit that rule
[21:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: and try using the NIC's IP instead of 127.0.0.1 above.
[21:06] <Guest49388> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I have no back up medium, is it possible to repartition and move the files over from one system to another then delete the old partitions and re-size ubuntu up to full disk size? I know it's a bit long winded, but I have no spare back up hard drive
[21:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: or the redirect target equivalently
[21:07] <iptablesHelp01> Big terms  :) << Eduard_Munteanu
[21:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --sport domain -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9876
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> !clone > Guest49388
[21:08] <Guest49388> MonkeyDust: It's Arch Linux I wish to replace, on the live hard drive, with no back up drive
[21:08] <caixa> is there anyway to monitor application load on my GPU?
[21:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: but consider why you're doing it... the system won't be getting those packets anymore
[21:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> Which may break stuff.
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest49388  why are you asking for advice with Arch in the Ubuntu channel?
[21:09] <Tirael> hi all
[21:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> Tirael: hi
[21:10] <Guest49388> I'm not, I'm asking if I can resize a live system fairly risk free, I wish to switch to Ubuntu
[21:10] <bekks> Guest49388: The answer is "no, not without risk".
[21:10] <Guest49388> Hence "fairly"
[21:11] <Tirael> i new here , anyone have a netbook itum7 n450?
[21:11] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: well, both if them are not working. I just want to have the packets with Answers to the DNS queries made from my system, tcpdump -i eth0 -v doesn't display anything
[21:11] <bekks> Tirael: Why? :)
[21:11] <Tirael> my grafics drivers not working
[21:12] <Tirael> apears unknow in description panel
[21:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: try adding -n, perhaps it's not resolving certain addresses
[21:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Are you sure you don't need to clone that packet instead of redirecting it?
[21:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> (if you need the former, TEE might be an option)
[21:14] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: well, that worked, but I cant decipher the output
[21:14] <Tirael> bekks: u know why?
[21:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: did you see any of those UDP packets you were expecting?
[21:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> You can add filters to tcpdump too.
[21:15] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: I saw the word UDP, lots  of it
[21:15] <bekks> Tirael: Which driver is not working? Which ubuntu do you have? Whats this "description panel"?
[21:16] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: But my aapplication is not receiving any packets, BTW , thanks thus far, so could you be knowing why my application does not receive any packets? coz its listening on port 9876
[21:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: paste one of those lines
[21:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: dunno what your app does... are you listening for UDP packets?
[21:17] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: yea, Its all I care for
[21:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Because e.g. it might be listening for TCP connections.
[21:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: did you try the REDIRECT line above?
[21:18] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: It was working with the command I gave you, except that was capturing the outbound packets
[21:18] <Tirael> bekks: details, sry, in all configurations i see processor: Intel® Atom™ CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz × 2
[21:18] <Tirael> graffics: Unknow
[21:19] <bekks> Tirael: And which Ubuntu do you have?
[21:19] <Tirael> 12.04
[21:20] <Tirael> 12.04 LTS
[21:20] <iptablesHelp01> Yea, I tried but the output here [http://pastebin.com/eYzLYLeG] is for the most recent command you gave
[21:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> iptablesHelp01: try looking for those packets specifically e.g. tcpdump -i eth0 -nv "src port 53"
[21:22] <danielboston26> how do i add patch code to my version of ubuntu?
[21:22] <Icehawk78> Does anyone know who I should look for/talk to to help expand the Logitech mouse driver support?
[21:23] <danielboston26> icehawk28 check for that speficic driver on launchpad
[21:23] <Tirael> bekks: its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[21:24] <arrrghhh> hey guys.  i had a 11.10 install that was upgraded to 12.04, and gnome-panel or fallback was installed.  after 12.04, i don't have any borders on my windows
[21:24] <bekks> Tirael: Then please pastebin the output of "sudo lspci -k".
[21:24] <bekks> !paste | Tirael
[21:24] <arrrghhh> so i can't close, minimize, etc.  i removed and reinstalled gnome-panel, to no avail.  any ideas?
[21:25] <danielboston26> arrrghhh: something might have got screwed up in the upgrade
[21:25] <akio> FWIW everyone, don't use the gnome ppa for gnome shell. Repo packages work just fine.
[21:25] <danielboston26> upgrading in place is always tricky in any os
[21:25] <danielboston26> can anyone help with my issue?
[21:25] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: http://pastebin.com/YZB9vS8e have a look at that,
[21:26] <danielboston26> arrrghhh: the best and easiest way is to backup your data and just format and reinstall
[21:27] <W4sp> arrrghhh: This sounds as if yu do not have a desktop environment but your WM is up. Try to log in and select a different DE.
[21:27] <danielboston26> a pain but that way you will have no strange issues
[21:27] <arrrghhh> W4sp, that will probably work... but how can i fix gnome-panel?
[21:27] <arrrghhh> danielboston26, sorry a format/reinstall is not an option right now.
[21:27] <Bubbelgum> Hello ! =)
[21:27] <Tirael> bekks: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation N10 Family DMI Bridge
[21:27] <Tirael> 	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[21:27] <Tirael> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:27] <Tirael> 	Subsystem: Device 1b7d:0002
[21:27] <Tirael> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[21:28] <bekks> !paste | Tirael
[21:28] <FloodBot1> Tirael: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <Tirael> 	Kernel modules: i915
[21:28] <Tirael> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:28] <danielboston26> arrrghhh: i always try to avoid upgrading in place you can always get weird little issues like this
[21:28] <danielboston26> tirael please use pastbin
[21:28] <arrrghhh> danielboston26, i know.  i wish upgrades went smooth, but they never seem to...
[21:29] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Re-install the the related packages. There are meta packages that will give you everything. Requires some patience during download and installation but it usually fixes it.
[21:29] <iptablesHelp01> Eduard_Munteanu: I am not sure whats missing, could it be the IP soecific redirection you were proposing?
[21:29] <danielboston26> well think about it arrrghhh its like taking a table full of stuff and replacing everything without touching the old stuff
[21:30] <Tirael> sry, paste bin whit launchpad? (noob dude sry)
[21:30] <danielboston26> tirael
[21:30] <danielboston26> copy and paste your info then paste that into pastebin
[21:30] <deadmund>  arrrghhh Use a distro that doesn't have 1/2yearly updates
[21:30] <danielboston26> then post link here
[21:31] <danielboston26> deadmund: i think hes using 12.04
[21:31] <bekks> !paste | Tirael
[21:31] <danielboston26> deadmund:  your saying don't use ubuntu?
[21:31] <deadmund> danielboston26: I was suggesting that blasphemy yes :)
[21:31] <bekks> Tirael: Tirael: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add |  !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for  your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:31] <danielboston26> deadmund: *shocked*
[21:31] <deadmund> haha
[21:32] <itatitat> guys, I know this is not the channel, but in kbuntu they are very quite. I added a second panel (i have it on the top), but is possible to minimize applications in that second panel?
[21:32] <Tirael> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140052/ is this??
[21:32] <bekks> Tirael: Yes.
[21:32] <W4sp> I don't think that the Ubuntu update process is deeply flawed. It should be fine for updates and upgrades. The fact that the WM is gone may even be just down to .dmrc, that cannot fine a valid DE anymore.
[21:32] <Tirael> :)
[21:32] <hollenjf> I just installed the latest version of Ubuntu, it wont auto mount my sdcard, its not in dmesg and fdisk -l isnt listing it. is there a change I should know about?
[21:32] <bekks> Tirael: Line 3 to 6 indicate, that you are using the i915 driver for your graphics cards. Everything is fine.
[21:33] <arrrghhh> W4sp, can you tell me which ones?  i did a purge on gnome-panel and then installed it again.  no dice.
[21:33] <danielboston26> hollenjf: when you say "latest" do you mean 12.04 or 12.10?
[21:34] <hollenjf> danielboston26: 12.04 that latest stable release
[21:34] <danielboston26> has ubuntu ever auto mounted sd's?
[21:34] <danielboston26> never tried it
[21:34] <deadmund> danielboston26: it does for me
[21:34] <W4sp> arrrghhh: I can't guide you through everything but if your lightdm comes up your previous session (before update) may be flawed. 1. Create a new user and see if that one has the same problems.
[21:35] <arrrghhh> hrm
[21:35] <arrrghhh> ok
[21:35] <danielboston26> well that would be a issue then
[21:35] <deadmund> danielboston26: but I might have installed something long ago
[21:35] <Tirael> bekks: yes?, how i can make a test
[21:35] <danielboston26> hollenjf: have you upgraded from a older version of ubuntu?
[21:35] <hollenjf> danielboston26: yes, 11 and the earlty 12 release used to auto mount the sd card devices
[21:35] <bekks> Tirael: You can see something on your display. Successfully tested :P
[21:35] <Tirael> XD
[21:35] <hollenjf> danielboston26: No, I have done a clean install from an ISO
[21:36] <danielboston26> hollenjf: hmmm no idea you might try googling
[21:36] <W4sp> arrrghhh: 2. Check if your ~/.dmrc has a session entry that is valid.
[21:36] <hollenjf> danielboston26: Yes, I googled this first.
[21:36] <danielboston26> hollenjf: hmmmm
[21:36] <hollenjf> danielboston26: I have also checked lsusb, dmesg, fdisk -l. None of those programs are detecting the storage device.
[21:37] <danielboston26> hollenjf: have you tried putting the card in another computer?
[21:37] <Tirael> bekks: new in ubuntu and dont see the name of GMA or acceleration rate is strange XD
[21:37] <Tirael> bekks: thx for helping me
[21:37] <hollenjf> danielboston26: Yes, I just tried the card in my dell, which is running ubuntu 11. Works fine
[21:37] <danielboston26> tirael buying any computer with gma graphics is silly
[21:38] <danielboston26> hollenjf: can you auto mount another card?
[21:38] <danielboston26> hollenjf: or have you tried manually mounting?
[21:39] <Tirael> is a netbook graffic card, impossible i thing
[21:39] <arrrghhh> W4sp, so 'Unity' works.  but is it possible to fix gnome-fallback?
[21:39] <hollenjf> danielboston26: I cant manually mount because it isnt giving it a device name to mount it from
[21:39] <danielboston26> tireal netbooks are cheap pos :-P
[21:39] <Tirael> XD
[21:39] <mwmnj> Any vim experts around?
[21:39] <qwd> Ubuntu 12.04 AMD64. I did the software update thing yesterday and turned the pc off because they were planning on cutting power this morning. Then when I started it again I got sent to busybox, and I don't know what to do.
[21:39] <danielboston26> hollenjf: try another card in same computer
[21:40] <danielboston26> mwmnj: you may want a vim chatroom
[21:40] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Would it be fair to ask what you have done, I gave you some advice and don't know what you've tried.
[21:40] <danielboston26> qwd: you shut it off in the middle of updating
[21:40] <danielboston26> not a good thing to do
[21:40] <arrrghhh> W4sp, apologies.  i'm not sure what you mean by a 'valid session entry'
[21:40] <mwmnj> danielboston26: yes, trying my luck in #vim as well
[21:40] <arrrghhh> W4sp, i haven't tried much.  Unity works.  It sounds like Gnome Classic (No Effects) works
[21:41] <qwd> danielboston26: pretty sure I didn't, but I guess it's possible
[21:41] <danielboston26> mwmnj: also google is your friend :-P
[21:41] <Tirael> icu guys, thx for the help n.n
[21:41] <danielboston26> qwd your basically sol
[21:41] <hollenjf> danielboston26: I just tried another sd card in this computer, I checked fdisk, lsusb and dmesg. Its still not providing  a device name for this device.
[21:41] <W4sp> arrrghhh: I'm lost, you said it works for Unity. Did you install a new user?
[21:41] <hollenjf> danielboston26: I think this may be a potential issue with this release
[21:41] <danielboston26> hollenjf: then i would say one of two things
[21:41] <danielboston26> hollenjf: ubuntu is messed up or something happened to the reader
[21:42] <danielboston26> hollenjf: since im a hardware person im blaming software :-P
[21:42] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Did you use a different profile in a new session.
[21:42] <qwd> can i get a second opinion onn this? possibly turned pc off during update, now sent to busybox. sol or fixable?
[21:43] <danielboston26> qwd try running fsck
[21:43] <arrrghhh> W4sp, no new user.  just works logging into Unity or Gnome Classic (no effects)
[21:43] <playman> hello, could some one assist me with the "waiting for network configuration" error?
[21:43] <danielboston26> qwd unless your expecting to get a cl?
[21:43] <hollenjf> danielboston26: hahah.. I agree. I'm leaning to the fact that its a software issue..
[21:43] <danielboston26> hollenjf: i don't have a install of 12.04 to test
[21:43] <qwd> danielboston26: i'm expecting to start gnome :)
[21:44] <qwd> danielboston26: but now that you mention it i think this happened once before and i solved it with fsck, almost messed it up in the process too so i think i'll check the logs and see if i find anything useful there :)
[21:45] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Teh odd thing is that .dmrc is (or has been) ignored by GNOME.
[21:45] <danielboston26> qwd you may have a wonky hard drive
[21:45] <danielboston26> qwd im assuming your using ext file system?
[21:47] <qwd> danielboston26: i'm using ext4 and for some reason it started just fine now! this morning i got busybox twice, even in recovery mode, now I went straight into Gnome. Odd! Thanks for the help though
[21:47] <danielboston26> qwd im leaning towards hard drive issue
[21:47] <danielboston26> qwd backup your data
[21:47] <danielboston26> qwd im checking to see if spinrite will see ext but im not sure
[21:48] <danielboston26> qwd my guess would be no
[21:48] <danielboston26> qwd how old is the computer?
[21:48] <arrrghhh> W4sp, no worries i think he'll just use gnome classic (no effects)
[21:49] <W4sp> arrrghhh: np.
[21:49] <arrrghhh> does anyone know why i can't create icons on the desktop from the applications menu?
[21:49] <pseudonymous> I have no ibus(mocz) support in my legacy QT3 application on my desktop. Any ideas as to how I get this re-enabled ? First time I installed ibus (via gui) it all worked. Unfortunately that broke by itself and I redid the install by hand using a different back-end(anthy=>mocz).. No more QT3 support it seems :(
[21:50] <arrrghhh> i had to actually cp from /usr/lib.../calc.desktop file
[21:50] <luyang> Ubuntu is so beautiful
[21:50] <luyang> I'd say that Ubuntu is the first extremely usable Linux distro
[21:50] <pseudonymous> luyang: sure is :) By far the best looking OS, no comparisons
[21:50] <danielboston26> pseudonymous: for old hardware/software best to use a old os
[21:50] <qwd> danielboston26: I got everything important backed up but I'll double check. The oldest hard drive has been powered on almost 5 years
[21:50] <luyang> pseudonymous:  =)
[21:50] <qwd> 4 bad sectors
[21:51] <deadmund> pseudonymous: luyang ummmmmmm.... MINT?!
[21:51] <danielboston26> qwd my advice would be replace the drive
[21:51] <luyang> deadmund: what?
[21:51] <deadmund> luyang: linux mint is even more usable and I dare say.... prettier!
[21:52] <luyang> deadmund: I see
[21:52] <deadmund> ;)
[21:52] <Guest91246> nick
[21:52] <luyang> deadmund: but didn't it come out after ubuntu?
[21:52] <deadmund> luyang: oh, yes.  Quite a bit after.  It's an ubuntu derivative
[21:52] <qwd> danielboston26: based on 4 bad sectors? everything looks good apart from that. 675 power cycles, 4,9 years powered on but everything has a green little dot  except for those 4 sectors.
[21:52] <arre> can i ask an 12.04 LTS question here related to wireless nics?
[21:53] <arrrghhh> shouldn't i be able to drag and drop from the applications menu to the desktop?
[21:53] <deadmund> arre: That is the purpose of this channel!
[21:53] <luyang> deadmund there you see... btw, I think ubuntu is good since it is so established with binaries etc
[21:53] <luyang> aps
[21:53] <danielboston26> qwd based on what? are you running some sort of hard drive program? like spinrite?
[21:53] <deadmund> luyang: mint enjoys the same!
[21:53] <luyang> where can I find awesome linux tools
[21:53] <danielboston26> arre yes
[21:54] <luyang> deadmund: that sounds great <3
[21:54] <deadmund> luyang: because it is an ubuntu derivative
[21:54] <deadmund> luyang: :)
[21:54] <luyang> yes
[21:54] <luyang> it's so cool
[21:54] <arre> thanks deadmund, i have a wierd problem, on start up my wireless nic doens't connect to my router, but it will when i execute two commands: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb,  and sudo modprobe b43
[21:54] <qwd> danielboston26: based on the SMART data. I'm running the self-test in Ubuntus disk-utility now.
[21:54] <luyang> I am actulaly running Ubuntu in virtualbox in Windows
[21:54] <luyang> still awesome t hough
[21:54] <danielboston26> arre broadcom chipset?
[21:54] <arre> yea
[21:54] <danielboston26> awd smart is crap
[21:54] <danielboston26> qwd*
[21:54] <danielboston26> arre thats your problem
[21:55] <danielboston26> arre broadcom and linux don't mix
[21:55] <deadmund> arre: That is very strange indeed.  do you have b43 in your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:55] <arre> right daniel, but it works, just not on startup, deadmund, let me check
[21:55] <arrrghhh> how do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic
[21:55] <deadmund> danielboston26: what is qwd?
[21:55] <qwd> danielboston26: ah, well I'll make sure my backups are proper and when it dies I won't have anything to worry about :)
[21:55] <luyang> seamless in virtualbox mode is awesome
[21:55] <danielboston26> qwd is a user deadmund
[21:55] <deadmund> arre: I have much experience with broadcomm and b43
[21:55] <luyang> Btw, guys, where can I find ubuntu app source codes?
[21:56] <deadmund> danielboston26: oh :P
[21:56] <danielboston26> qwd i would trust something like spinrite
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> luyang:  the various dev packages and src debs
[21:56] <danielboston26> qwd actually i would only trust spinrite
[21:56] <arre> deadmund, sorry linux rookie here, how to i navigate to that dir to check? from terminal?
[21:56] <KatsumeBlisk> luyang: I know I'm not helping much, but there's a command with apt to get the source.
[21:56] <luyang> KatsumeBlisk: that's actually very useful
[21:56] <deadmund> arre: Any directory can be navigated to using the terminal or the file explorer
[21:56] <luyang> apt-get source?
[21:56] <deadmund> arre: PM if you want.  It's noisy in here.
[21:56] <danielboston26> arre when you type someones nick please type full nick so it will highlight it so i can see your responce
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get luyang
[21:57] <danielboston26> arre if you don't want to type my whole nick type first e letters then hit tab
[21:57] <arrrghhh> luyang, yes.  apt-get source <package name>
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> Use the command apt-get source <package> (don't use sudo with it) to download the source of a package
[21:57] <luyang> grrrrreat! (corn flakes)
[21:57] <danielboston26> dr_willis are you answering a question?
[21:57] <W4sp> arre: Use pwd to figure out where you are, use cd <directory> to navigate. Try pressing the tab after you typed in a few characters. Use ls to find what's in your directory.
[21:58] <luyang> Do y'all run Linux alone or dualboot or virtualbox/vmware?
[21:58] <arrrghhh> !ot | luyang
[21:58] <danielboston26> arre broadcom chipsets have all kinds of issues because broadcom does not open source there drivers so all their linux drivers are hacks made by users
[21:58] <W4sp> arre: Tip. Use man <command> to find more about the command line tool.
[21:58] <danielboston26> arre i would get a new nic if you can
[21:59] <luyang> arrrghhh: sorry
[21:59] <arrrghhh> np
[21:59] <arre> ok cool, one sec guys, checking.. (right i read that about broadcom,.. (w4SP, i am there now checking per deadmund's instructions.
[21:59] <deadmund> danielboston26: arre whoa whoa.  I have several broadcom cards and I have them all working fine.
[21:59] <danielboston26> luyang: support chat not geneal discussion
[21:59] <luyang> I know
[21:59] <deadmund> no need to buy a new card danielboston26
[21:59] <luyang> just so excited
[21:59] <hollenjf> danielboston26: I've solved my problem.. It was a hardware failure.. the UBS port that the sd card reader was plugged into went dead.. I moved it to a new usb port and Wala!
[21:59] <playman> why cant i make my ubuntu start at IP 192.168.1.3 it always starts at 192.168.1.4?
[21:59] <arrrghhh> danielboston26, i already scolded him :P
[21:59] <pseudonymous> luyang: I dualboot for the occasional Starcraft 2 game, but otherwise I run it exclusively. VM's are a bit buggy at times and I can't justify using windows for anything else. All the best applications(my opinion) from programming to learning Japanese are running in Linux.. :)
[22:00] <deadmund> playman: edit /etc/network/interfaces or use the gui networkmanager
[22:00] <arrrghhh> playman, if it's DHCP then your DHCP server determines your IP
[22:00] <deadmund> playman: perhaps that IP is taken by some other machine
[22:00] <arre> deadmund, where did you want me to go check again? /etc/ where?
[22:00] <danielboston26> deadmund: well the fact that they don't open source their drivers because they want to charge linux users extortion to get support has soured me on them
[22:00] <arrrghhh> playman, if you want a static IP, configure it manually.
[22:00] <W4sp> deadmund: Apologies, I didn't see you have been asked directly.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> playman:  my router can assign ip based on MAC. so my whole home lan has the same ips
[22:00] <danielboston26> playman turn off dhcp
[22:00] <pseudonymous> deadmund: don't agree on Mint being prettier though. They tried to pretty up a common street prostitute (Gnome3) with moderate success.
[22:01] <deadmund> arre: If you PM me there won't be so much noise.  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:01] <deadmund> W4sp: :)
[22:01] <usr13> playman: ... or tell your router to assign your favorite ip to the MAC address of your NIC.
[22:01] <arre> how do i pm? :)
[22:01] <arre> <---- moron here
[22:01] <deadmund> pseudonymous: Hey now!  They wrote cinnamon and mate.  More than just themeing gnome 3
[22:01] <playman> deadmund: i've configured the interfaces file to use 192.168.1.3 but still it wants 192.168.1.4
[22:01] <danielboston26> aree /whisper whatever name
[22:01] <arre> ok
[22:01] <arre> thanks daniel
[22:01] <deadmund> oops
[22:02] <deadmund>  /whipser works too
[22:02] <usr13> playman: is the address 192.168.1.3 within the dhcp pool that your router uses?
[22:02] <danielboston26> arre or depending on your irc client you can right click on his username and click private or whisper or whatever the name of the command is on your client
[22:03] <playman> usr13: yes, my router is 255.255.255.0 on the 192.168.1.* range
[22:03] <arre> test
[22:03] <deadmund> haha
[22:03] <deadmund> arre: hi
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> playman  no, 255... is the subnet
[22:03] <arre> lol
[22:03] <arre> <--- moron did i mention that already? :)
[22:04] <usr13> playman:  you should choose one that is outside the DHCP pool
[22:04] <deadmund> arre: like this ->   /whipser deadmund Hello there!
[22:04] <usr13> playman: Do you know where the pool is?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> I think they need to make the Guest user wallpaper have big bold letters.. 'Things wont get saved here once you logout' Silly Step daughter has done this twice now and mad at me that she lost her downloads.. ;P
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> playman  your router is 192.168.1.1
[22:04] <usr13> playman: If not, log into your router's config and see
[22:04] <playman> MonkeyDust: yes and 255.255.255.0 on 192.168.1.* tells me that i'm using ip's from 1 to 255 right?
[22:05] <bekks> playman: 1...254
[22:05] <usr13> playman: Many routers allow you to assign static IPs for your PCs.
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> playman  no, 255.255.255.0 means you can use 254 addresses in 192.... range
[22:05] <bekks> 255 is the broadcast IP
[22:05] <playman> MonkeyDust: nope my router is 254 not 1
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Thats.. weird..
[22:06] <W4sp> 255 is broadcast, 0 is used to specify a subnet.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> idd
[22:06] <bekks> iddqd ;)
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> 255.255.255.255 is the broadcast address
[22:06] <bekks> Nope.
[22:06] <danielboston26> usr13 all he needs to do is turn off dhcp
[22:06] <usr13> playman: the netmask 255.255.255.0  tells you that your subnet is from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254
[22:06] <danielboston26> monkeydust 255.255.255.0
[22:07] <bekks> Having a common class C network, the last IP ( .255) is the broadcast IP.
[22:07] <bekks> danielboston26: No.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> danielboston26  idd, i was confused myself
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> still am :)
[22:07] <bekks> 255.255.255.0 is the subnet mask.
[22:07] <usr13> danielboston26: Yea, but what about the other PCs that connect to that router?
[22:07] <playman> lol man so many talking and saying different things. any way i've used to have 192.168.1.3 on that machine until I changed the hardware, and wanted to keep using 3 on that machine. but some how it wont let me
[22:07] <danielboston26> usr13 i mean on that computer
[22:07] <arrrghhh> playman, ohhhh you probably had your MAC address change
[22:07] <bzzzz> static eye pees
[22:07] <usr13> danielboston26: Ok, yea
[22:08] <danielboston26> playman if you just turn off dhcp on your computer you can do it
[22:08] <danielboston26> unless  as others have said its not in your pool
[22:08] <W4sp> playman: :-) If your hardware has changed so has the NIC and MAC. You would need to tell the dhcp server to propagate the .3 to your new hardware.
[22:08] <bekks> usr13: The subnet mask /24 or 255.255.255.0 tells you that your network range is from 192.166.1.0 to .255 whereas .0 is the network address and .255 is the broadcast address.
[22:09] <danielboston26> bekks your making my head hurt lol
[22:09] <bzzzz> sadly, .0 isn't a valid network addr
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> danielboston26  you haven't calculated it binary, yet :)
[22:09] <bekks> bzzzz: It IS a very valid NETWORK address, but NOT a valid HOST address.
[22:09] <W4sp> Use ifconfig to identify your MAC address and tell the dhcp daemon to provide .3 to the h/w with that specific MAC address. That's all.
[22:10] <bekks> bzzzz: danielboston26: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetting explains all that.
[22:10] <danielboston26> just like aholes everyone has them
[22:10] <danielboston26> lol
[22:10] <playman> allright i'm gona see if I can tell my router to forget the old MAC for the .3 and set in a new one
[22:10] <danielboston26> bekks i was teaseing you
[22:11] <W4sp> playman: If you to check for things like release or release time. But if you do as I said you don't need to.
[22:11] <usr13> W4sp: I think he has his router issuing a static IP, and that is what he is wanting.
[22:12] <danielboston26> yes playman wants a static iip
[22:12] <W4sp> usr13: Static IPADDR are not being served by dhcp server. that is a contradiction in itself.
[22:12] <danielboston26> he wants a .3 for some reason
[22:13] <usr13> W4sp: Actually, it's usually called a "Static Lease"
[22:13] <bekks> usr13: Thats a static lease, but not a static IP.
[22:13] <usr13> W4sp: I beg to differ.
[22:13] <arrrghhh> infinite lease?  :P
[22:13] <usr13> bekks: Yea, well, same difference.
[22:14] <bzzzz> bekks: 'network address' can be used to denote mean 'host address.' but if you want to play semantics, then both .0 and .255 are network addresses, which makes your originl statement useless
[22:14] <bekks> The difference is, that using a static lease, the DHCP server determines the IP, wil using a static IP, the DHCP server doesnt matter at all.
[22:14] <arrrghhh> we setup our machines to grab IP based on MAC.  the clients still use DHCP, but the server always hands out the same address.
[22:14] <arrrghhh> it's a little more complex to setup, and i'm betting playman just wants a static IP
[22:14] <W4sp> :-) Well I will not expand further on my comments. As long as you both use the same terms and understand each other.
[22:15] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:15] <usr13> bekks: Ok, yes you are correct.  But, essentially the PC gets a static IP (either way).
[22:15] <arrrghhh> soooo how do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic
[22:15] <usr13> bekks: It's just a matter of terms.
[22:15] <bekks> usr13: No. Using a static lease, the PC gets a DHCP IP which is always the same ;)
[22:15] <bekks> However, just configuring a static IP on the client is the most easy way to solve that problem.
[22:15] <W4sp> Well, static IP is in no way propagated by DHCP. YOu can exclude IPADDR range on dhcp for those hosts that use a static IP though
[22:16] <usr13> bekks: If it is always the same it is "static" (as opposed to "dynamic").
[22:16]  * W4sp .oO forces herself to think about something else.
[22:16] <arrrghhh> herself?  blasphemy
[22:16] <bekks> usr13: As long as it is served by the _D_HCP server, it isnt a static IP.
[22:16] <usr13> bekks: Anyway, it doesnt matter, but you are correct, it is refered to (in router configs) as "static lease".
[22:17] <Tito__> How to remove launcher from taskbar in Ubuntu 12.04 (in Ubuntu 11.10, alt right click used to help)
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> D in DHCP means Dynamic, as opposed to Static
[22:18] <usr13> MonkeyDust: So...?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> usr13  to whom it may concern :)
[22:18] <arrrghhh> c'mon guys, enough semantics.
[22:18] <usr13> MonkeyDust: That doesn't mean that a DHCP server can not assign a static IP addreess. :)
[22:19] <bekks> usr13: A DHCP cant assign static IPs, but only static leases.
[22:19] <arrrghhh> ...
[22:19] <bekks> A static IP isnt assigned by anything else but the client using that IP.
[22:19] <W4sp> usr13: No, it actually does mean that.
[22:20] <usr13> bekks: Ok, I get your point, (but the fact remains that if the IP address does not change, it is "static", (by definition of the word "static").
[22:20] <W4sp> bekks: bekks is right.
[22:20] <arrrghhh> FFS semantics!!
[22:20] <playman> gah stupid router, now I just get "waiting for network configuration" :/
[22:20] <bekks> usr13: static refers to the lease, not to the IP.
[22:21] <bzzzz> tell bekks that bekks is right, classic
[22:21] <W4sp> usr13: If you continue to mix up terms we will end up like birds singing in the air.
[22:21] <usr13> playman: Are you sure you got the MAC address correct?
[22:21] <arevee_> test
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> playman  the router is still mentally preoccupied by the difference between dynamic and static
[22:21] <arevee_> durn, deadmund is gone?
[22:22] <playman> usr13: I cant find the place to change the MAC i'm using some stupid router from speedtouch
[22:22] <W4sp> no wonder, I should have done the same.
[22:22] <deadmund> I'm here
[22:22] <deadmund> what?
[22:22] <usr13> bekks: I told you once already, "You are correct, it is refered to as a "static lease".
[22:23] <deadmund> arevee_: I'm here
[22:23] <deadmund> You changed nick!
[22:23] <arevee_> sorry bro
[22:23] <arrrghhh> playman, why not just make a static IP on the client instead of worrying about the router?
[22:24] <kriskropd> why does ejabberd in aptitude come broken in non developmental 12.04? erlang modules are broken, something about mismatched versions from what i can tell so far
[22:24] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Yeah, but exclude .3 on your router.
[22:24] <arrrghhh> W4sp, or just make a dhcp range above .100.  that's what *most* do from the factory it seems.
[22:24] <tPl0ch> Hi, how can I revert error reporting for a package once I ignored them?
[22:25] <playman> arrrghhh: doesent that mean I edit the interfaces file telling it to use .3 instead of .4?
[22:25] <W4sp> arrrghhh: Exactly, now we're talking.
[22:25] <usr13> playman: Some routers do not have the option to set "Static Lease".  It may be that the lease just never runs out.  In that case, you could move the dhcp pool up a little, (if the dhcp pool is from 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.50, you could move it to 192.168.1.4 - 192.168.1.54), and then just set your PC to static IP of 192.168.1.3.'
[22:25] <adaminsull> I'm trying to install ZNC
[22:25] <adaminsull> when I do ./ZNC I get
[22:25] <adaminsull> [ !! ] Binding to port [1337] on host [199.116.119.70]... [ Unable to bind ]
[22:25] <adaminsull> [ ** ] Unrecoverable config error.
[22:25] <arrrghhh> adaminsull, is 1337 in use?
[22:26] <bzzzz> adaminsull: netstat -n
[22:26] <usr13> playman: That was just an example, (I do not know where the pool really is), so...
[22:26] <arrrghhh> ^^
[22:26] <playman> usr13: I belive that the router uses from 1 to 254 by default
[22:26] <adaminsull> Yes 1337
[22:26] <arrrghhh> adaminsull, please use that netstat command to make sure it's not in use.  netstat -alp |grep 1337
[22:26] <usr13> playman: so just move it from 4 to 254
[22:26] <adaminsull> bzzzz to check?
[22:26] <bzzzz> adaminsull: netstat -n?
[22:26] <arrrghhh> playman, i would move it .100+ for DHCP.
[22:26] <adaminsull> k
[22:26] <W4sp> adaminsull: do you have 1337 in /etc/services?
[22:26] <bzzzz> adaminsull: maybe some pastebin
[22:27] <adaminsull> i'll pastebin what I get from netstat -n
[22:27] <W4sp> Well, he wants .3 That needs to be accepted.
[22:27] <usr13> playman: But routers do not usually use the entire subnet for the DHCP pool.  (You may be confusing "subnet" with "DHCP pool".
[22:27] <adaminsull> wait
[22:27] <jnhghy> adaminsull the port is already in use
[22:27] <adaminsull> Ok
[22:27] <adaminsull> What port is free?
[22:27] <bzzzz> adaminsull: pick anything above 1024
[22:28] <adaminsull> ok
[22:28] <adaminsull> 1097?
[22:28] <bzzzz> and for the record, a used port isn't the only possible problem
[22:28] <W4sp> adaminsull: check your /etc/services
[22:28] <arrrghhh> bzzzz, true, but i wanted to rule it out :P
[22:28] <bzzzz> adaminsull: well first make sure that the problem is an occupied port
[22:28] <bzzzz> adaminsull: hence netstat and pbin
[22:28] <adaminsull> Is port 1097 free
[22:29] <arrrghhh> adaminsull, please pastebin the netstat output
[22:29] <bekks> adaminsull: Check it, using the command you've beben given.
[22:29] <bzzzz> adaminsull: i'm not sure, i'd have to get my psychic headgear
[22:29] <bekks> *been
[22:29] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:29] <playman> usr13: the networking isint my strong side i'll admit to that, but i'm pretty sure I can make my PC use what ever number from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.253 (254 is the router)
[22:29] <usr13> playman: And it may not even use the term "DHCP pool", it may only have entries for "Start IP Address"  and "End IP Address"  (or Maximum DHCP users), or something to that effect.
[22:30] <arrrghhh> playman, do you have the exact router make & model?  i might be able to find a walkthru
[22:30] <adaminsull> http://pastebin.com/kheVXjnS
[22:30] <bzzzz> holy cow that's a lot of ports
[22:31] <playman> arrrghhh: THOMSON ST585v6
[22:31] <adaminsull> W4sp in SSH like now?
[22:31] <usr13> playman: You can set your PC to a static IP of 192.168.1.3 but if it is inside the DHCP pool, be aware that someday you may have an IP conflict if your router assigns that IP to another NIC. (That is why I keep telling you to pick an IP address that is outside the DHCP pool).
[22:32] <arrrghhh> playman, got it.  give me a minute.
[22:32] <yakster> Just add a reservation to the dhcp pool…. then the router wont ever assign it to anythign but that PC
[22:32] <bekks> yakster: The router doesnt support that :P
[22:33] <yakster> WHAAAA!!!! whats the model?
[22:33] <arrrghhh> yakster, damnit jim
[22:33] <arrrghhh> yakster, http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers/Thomson/ST585v6/default.htm
[22:33] <playman> usr13: yeah sorry for that :/ but somehow I cant see anywhere information about DHCP pool or anything of that sort.
[22:34] <usr13> bekks: You are more than likely correct.  But it is also quite possbile that this router also starts at the bottom of the list when assigning IPs i.e. 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.3 etc. etc.
[22:34] <playman> arrrghhh: ok thanks man
[22:34] <usr13> playman: That's ok.  Yea, some routers are a bit limited.....
[22:34] <bekks> usr13: Thats the RFC compliant behaviour of a DHCP server :)
[22:35] <arrrghhh> lordy this is a horrible router.
[22:35] <playman> usr13: one of my pc's is using .13 another is using .4
[22:36] <playman> arrrghhh: yeahh tell me about it, it's just some stupid default router I get from the ISP
[22:36] <arrrghhh> i can't find jack on the DHCP options - no way to even disable DHCP
[22:36] <arrrghhh> playman, you might have to burn that thing and buy your own.
[22:36] <usr13> playman: Yea, this router probably has a never ending lease.  There is probably a way you can clear it, but.... Probably not necessary.
[22:36] <tech1> is there a better program for detecting and setting up multiple displays? both xrandr and nvidia xserver are not working properly....
[22:37] <usr13> playman: Just set your PC to static IP and hope for the best.
[22:37] <arevee__> deadmund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:37] <deadmund> arevee__: yeah?
[22:37] <arevee__> you are a genius kind sir!
[22:37] <deadmund> ha
[22:37] <deadmund> I have experience.
[22:37] <arevee__> how can i help you?
[22:37] <deadmund> I'm glad I could help you!
[22:37] <deadmund> arevee__: I don't need any help from you but I appreciate the offer :)
[22:37] <playman> there is probably one way to fix it, and that requires me to force reset it, but then I have to setup the net on all my laps and androids :/
[22:38] <arevee__> dude, please pm me, i suck at pmming..
[22:38] <usr13> playman: If you can find the configuration for "Start" and "End" IPs in the DHCP server config, change the start IP to 192.168.1.4, (so that 192.168.1.3 is no longer in the DHCP pool).
[22:38] <arrrghhh> playman, can i PM you
[22:38] <playman> yeah sure arrrghhh
[22:38] <deadmund> arevee__: right click my name -> open dialog window
[22:39] <usr13> playman: Do like I did.  Find a router that will do DD-wrt and install your own OS on it and you will have lots of config options.  :)
[22:39] <donchisciotte> ciao a tutti
[22:39] <donchisciotte> xdcc/list
[22:40] <playman> usr13: hehe yeah maybe ;)
[22:40] <usr13> playman: DD-wrt or openwrt
[22:40] <usr13> playman: You can look in the database and see which routers are supported (there are LOTS), and buy one from ebay.
[22:41] <arrrghhh> dd-wrt is amazing
[22:41] <arrrghhh> some routers are difficult to setup tho... there's varying levels of support.
[22:41] <usr13> playman: In the  process, you'll learn more about netowrking.
[22:41] <usr13> arrrghhh: Yea, some are fairly easy though.
[22:41] <usr13> I've done a couple with no problems
[22:42] <arrrghhh> indeed.  my 600n was easy peasy.  this 54g is awful tho.  just depends on the version.  some have less memory, etc
[22:42] <playman> usr13: where is that database?
[22:43] <arrrghhh> playman, http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database/
[22:43] <usr13> arrrghhh: Yea, I would like to find one that has a pretty strong radio, (one if them I chose is a bit weak).
[22:43] <usr13> playman: just a sec.
[22:43] <arrrghhh> i already linked it ;)
[22:43] <arrrghhh> usr13, ^^
[22:43] <digitig> Newbie confused about networking. My Ubuntu computer has a wired network to my router which is working fine for internet. I also have NAS (iomega) with a wired connection to the router, and a couple of Windows PCs attached with wifi. a) do I need Samba to access the NAS, and b) how can I get it to connect to the Windows computers? I've tried the Samba documentation, but don't understand it.
[22:43] <playman> thanks arrrghhh
[22:43] <usr13> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
[22:43] <W4sp> usr13: Get some tin foil. It makes wonders.
[22:44] <Plumblum_> wich ftp server would you folks recommend ?
[22:44] <playman> usr13: thanks
[22:44] <Plumblum_> or is the default one good enough
[22:44] <usr13> W4sp: hummm.... ?
[22:44] <usr13> maybe...
[22:44] <arrrghhh> DigiDaz, so the NAS is a set-top box?
[22:44] <usr13> playman: proftpd
[22:44] <usr13> Plumblum_: proftpd
[22:45] <usr13> sorry, wrong nic
[22:45] <digitig> arrrghhh: NAS = Network Attached Storage -- network RAID1 hard drive.
[22:45] <arrrghhh> digitig, NAS is really vague.  it doesn't necessarily mean exactly that.
[22:46] <arrrghhh> digitig, if your files are on the NAS, I don't see why you need Samba on your Ubuntu box.  That would be if you want your Windows machines to 'see' and copy files from your Ubuntu machine.
[22:46] <bekks> Plumblum_: vsftpd
[22:46] <digitig> @arrrghhh: It means that in my case -- it's a 4TB iomega Storcenter ix2.
[22:46] <W4sp> usr13: OT: http://lifehacker.com/296367/boost-your-wireless-signal-with-a-homemade-wifi-extender
[22:47] <arrrghhh> digitig, ok.  and that's where you want the Windows boxes to connect, right?  not the Ubuntu box?
[22:47] <usr13> W4sp: tnx
[22:48] <digitig> @arrrghhh: Eventually I will want to share files and printers with the Windows machines, but for tonight I will be happy if I Ubuntu can see the network storage (Windows already can).
[22:48] <arrrghhh> digitig, oh you need Ubuntu to see the NAS... I see.  Does the NAS support NFS?
[22:49] <digitig> @arrrghhh: I don't know that, but "Linux" was listed on the box as a supported filesystem so my guess is that it does.
[22:50] <davv3> anyone else experiencing problems with ATI drivers now? my card now only supports opengl 1.4 i.e no compiz :(
[22:50] <imran> how can i install a4 tech camera drivers on UBUNTU?
[22:50] <davv3> radeon hd 6870
[22:50] <imran> Yeah i am
[22:51] <arrrghhh> digitig, i guess i shall google.  1 sec
[22:51] <davv3> imran: no unity 3d?
[22:51] <skutr34> Hi. I just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on my Lubuntu machine, and for some reason, I am having to select which disk on which to install the GRUB update. It is a graphical prompt within the terminal, and I need help selecting the disk. I press <Enter> on the disk and get a second prompt asking if I want to proceed without installing GRUB...
[22:52] <imran> davv3: after installing ati drivers? NO
[22:52] <deadmund> skutr34: which disc did you install to? Make sure you choose the disc and not a partition :)
[22:53] <davv3> imran: so are you still experiencing problems? i have tried using both from the software repository and building a .deb from amd site
[22:53] <skutr34> deadmund: I installed it to my only hard drive. /dev/sda...
[22:53] <deadmund> skutr34: then I'm not sure what it's saying...
[22:53] <digitig> @arrrghhh: I'll google for NFS myself and have a go. I wasn't sure whether NFS and Samba were an either/or thing or if I could have both running to access different things.
[22:53] <deadmund> skutr34: Who cares, if it breaks something you can fix it from a live CD
[22:54] <skutr34> deadmund: It's what I am trying to select in the prompt, but I don't know how to select it...
[22:54] <imran> davv3: I have tried everything but now i am better without my ati drivers
[22:54] <deadmund> skutr34: spacebar?
[22:54] <arrrghhh> digitig, looks like it does support NFS.  You can use Samba (smb sometimes), but NFS will be faster.
[22:54] <arrrghhh> and IMHO easier.
[22:54] <deadmund> skutr34: space bar selects stuff
[22:54] <davv3> imran: can you paste output from fglrxinfo ?
[22:54] <deadmund> skutr34: You're probably pressing enter (thereby moving to the next screen without selecting anything)
[22:54] <skutr34> deadmund: Thanks. I'm stupid.
[22:54] <mfaroukg1> why my wireless gets very slow when I disconnect the charger?
[22:54] <zykotick9> arrrghhh: not to mention nfs' much high reliability...
[22:55] <imran> davv3: 1 sec....
[22:55] <deadmund> skutr34: nope!  It's poorly designed :)
[22:55] <arrrghhh> zykotick9, we could go on and on... :P
[22:55] <skutr34> Thanks again.
[22:55] <skutr34> :)
[22:55] <mfaroukg1> why my wireless gets very slow when I disconnect the charger?
[22:55] <arrrghhh> digitig, so does this thing have a web interface to configure it, or how do you access it before it is setup?
[22:56] <davv3> imran: vendor and version string
[22:56] <deadmund> mfaroukg1: Probably the laptop is slowing the processor to save power
[22:57] <mfaroukg1> deadmund: right!! so how to stop the processor power management ?
[22:57] <imran> davv3: Sorry i don't know where is that info :(
[22:57] <arrrghhh> mfaroukg1, you OK with poor battery life?
[22:57] <deadmund> mfaroukg1: Look at the power management settings.  I don't know exactly where it is in the gui
[22:57] <mfaroukg1> deadmund, let me check
[22:57] <deadmund> mfaroukg1: I could be wrong.  Might be a hardware thing reducing the speed of the wifi module too (which you likely can't control)
[22:57] <imran> davv3: I haven't installed ati drivers yet
[22:57] <davv3> imran: ok..
[22:58] <digitig> @arrrghhh: And I fall at the first hurdle: I don't understand the SettingUpNFSHowTo because I don't know what "exports" are in this context. (BTW, yes, the NAS does have a web interface).
[22:58] <zykotick9> digitig: /etc/exports determines what is "shared"
[22:58] <W4sp> digitig: I suggest you check the manual pages for shares with Linux systems. They describe where to click. Unfortunately they miss out what protocol they use. It is hopefully NFS.
[22:58] <usr13> W4sp: Isnt' that Patric Madrid?  ... or something like that...?
[22:58] <bzzzz> holy cow that's a lot of ports
[22:58] <bzzzz> .quit
[22:58] <imran> davv3: Try compiz without installing drivers
[22:59] <W4sp> usr13: You lost me here.
[22:59] <arrrghhh> digitig, OK can you make sure NFS is enabled first?  then I can help ya get Ubuntu connected to it :)
[22:59] <usr13> W4sp: In that video....
[22:59] <usr13> W4sp: The guy on the right.
[23:00] <arrrghhh> digitig, unless you know it's already enabled.  we can jump straight to the config.  let me know.
[23:00] <mfaroukg1> deadmund: nothing mentioned on the power management , what else can I check to find out the wifi processor ?
[23:00] <W4sp> usr13: Oh, sorry. I don't know a person of that name and I did not watch the video. But the idea is good and it really helps to boost the signal.
[23:00] <DocPlatypus> has anyone actually gotten TranscriberAG to compile on 12.04 (precise)? since it appears the original Transcriber is now a dead project
[23:00] <deadmund> mfaroukg1: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678098
[23:00] <digitig> @arrrghhh: I've just done apt-get nfs-kernel-server, and it all seems to have gone ok. Is that what I need?
[23:01] <bikcmp> this is more of a general Linux question- for a machine with very little ram (but it supports 64 bit), should I choose a 32 bit OS or a 64 bit OS?
[23:01] <deadmund> mfaroukg1: I don't know anything else about this issue :(
[23:01] <arrrghhh> digitig, you need portmap as well IIRC
[23:01] <davv3> bikcmp: what is very little ram?
[23:01] <zykotick9> bikcmp: 32 probably...
[23:01] <arrrghhh> digitig, wait... sorry you need nfs-common.  nfs-kernel-server is for the server.
[23:01] <bikcmp> davv3: 256 mb, 512 mb
[23:01] <arrrghhh> digitig, in this case, your ubuntu box is the 'client'.  the NAS is the 'server'.
[23:01] <bikcmp> davv3: i heard that 64 bit takes away a bit of your ram
[23:01] <bikcmp> so
[23:02] <arrrghhh> bikcmp, wtf no.
[23:02] <bikcmp> no?
[23:02] <usr13> W4sp: Sorry, it's Patric Norton
[23:02] <bikcmp> arrrghhh: sorry, i hate low level stuff :-p
[23:02] <arrrghhh> bikcmp, no.  but you shouldn't 'need' 64-bit
[23:02] <bikcmp> arrrghhh: so why would I pick 32 bit over 64
[23:02] <usr13> W4sp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Norton
[23:02] <arrrghhh> even 32-bit with PAE supports up to.... 128gb of RAM?
[23:02] <digitig> @arrrghhh: Ok, I've installed portmap and nfs-common, and now know which is client and which is server.
[23:02] <arrrghhh> bikcmp, if you need 64-bit.  helps the proc run a bit better i would hope.
[23:03] <W4sp> usr13: Alrrrright.
[23:03] <arrrghhh> digitig, excellent.  can you run the mount command?  replace 'nfs-server' with the IP of your NAS
[23:03] <guest___> How can I setup an ubuntu system to be logged in from another computer over the web?
[23:03] <bikcmp> arrrghhh: but, if i was just given the choice for 32 bit or 64, choose 64?
[23:03] <usr13> W4sp: He used to be on  ZDTV (later TechTV)
[23:03] <blake_> What's a program like top and iotop, but for network send/recieve information?
[23:04] <W4sp> I don't live in the US, so I don't know him.
[23:04] <arrrghhh> bikcmp, unless you need 32-bit for something.  most things have been fixed by now.
[23:04] <zykotick9> bikcmp: if you have less then 4GB don't waste your time with 64bit.  plus, yes it will use more RAM then 32bit
[23:04] <blake_> Or another way to show what process/etc info for network packets?
[23:04] <arrrghhh> blake_, nettop?
[23:04] <usr13> W4sp: Ok, never mind.  But thanks for the link. I'll make the "Windsurfer" parabolic dish :)
[23:04] <arrrghhh> blake_, or netstat
[23:05] <blake_> arrrghhh thanks
[23:05] <digitig> arrrghhh: just looking up the ip address. Back soon!
[23:05] <arrrghhh> digitig, np
[23:05] <arrrghhh> blake_, np
[23:05] <arrrghhh> :)
[23:05] <arrrghhh> now will someone help me?  :P
[23:06] <W4sp> usr13: That's great, isn't it. It actually increases the speed, improves latency. I guess less packages are being dropped?
[23:06] <arrrghhh> soooo how do i drag icons from the applications menu to the desktop?  i'm using gnome classic
[23:07] <kfizz> I'm connecting to a wireless network different from the one I usually use. When I connected, I got a  notification that avahi was being disabled because the ISP did something with the .local domain. I can connect to my chat networks just fine, but browsing the web is awfully slow and I have to refresh a page multiple times before it loads.
[23:07] <blake_> How do I list my network adapter devices in CLI?
[23:07] <kfizz> I've tried changing the connection's DNS servers to Google's DNS, but I still don't have much luck. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[23:07] <arrrghhh> kfizz, how do you know it's not the network in general?
[23:07] <arrrghhh> blake_, ifconfig
[23:07] <zykotick9> blake_: "ifconfig" and/or "lspci | grep -i network" might work
[23:07] <blake_> thanks arrrghhh
[23:07] <kfizz> arrrghhh, I can connect from my Android tablet and browse just fine.
[23:08] <arrrghhh> kfizz, hrm.  i'm not sure then :/
[23:08] <kfizz> Also, Netflix via the blu-ray player works well, also.
[23:08] <kfizz> arrrghhh, me either. It's a doosey.
[23:08] <arrrghhh> kfizz, does ping drop packets?  ping 8.8.8.8
[23:08] <blake_> zykotick9 is there a way to make it so -i is always assumed with the grep command for example?
[23:09] <kfizz> arrrghhh, 0% packet loss.
[23:09] <W4sp> kfizz: What's your hostname? Is it host or host.localdomain?
[23:09] <TheMadDrizzle> I'm trying to dualboot Ubuntu and Arch, and i'm really confused as to how to partition my HDD to do so - I've never had a dual boot before, any help?
[23:09] <kfizz> hostname is the name of my laptop
[23:10] <kfizz> W4sp, forgot to tag you in previous message.
[23:10] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Can you ask a more specific question?
[23:10] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: I can help.
[23:10] <TheMadDrizzle> Sure
[23:10] <zykotick9> blake_: i doubt it...
[23:11] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund: Sure
[23:11] <zykotick9> blake_: i guess you could alias "grep" to "grep -i" but i don't think that's a good idea
[23:11] <blake_> zykotick9 The answer I was looking for is "make a shell script that says "grep -i $1"
[23:11] <blake_> Yes thanks zykotick9
[23:11] <kfizz> arrrghh, as an aside, I pinged www.google.com and the time was considerably longer and had a 16% packet loss.
[23:12] <TheMadDrizzle> I'm confused as to where and why I need multiple mout points for the different partitions?  And how to effectivly partition to make both bootable once both distros are installed.
[23:12] <TheMadDrizzle> *mount
[23:12] <arrrghhh> kfizz, hrm.  i don't think that's DNS... because you've already resolved the name to an IP if you can ping
[23:13] <TheMadDrizzle> I have a two physical hdds.  I wanted to use my 120gb for Ubuntu, Arch, and swap, then use my 80gb as a backup / storage.
[23:13] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Each distro will have a set of mount points.  These are pointers to partitions.  Each distro needs some mountpoints to boot (specifically / and swap).  Some partitions can be used by more than one distro (swap).  Some cannot.  The whole thing becomes more complicated if you have a separate /home).
[23:13] <kfizz> It's super strange. I almost wish the other devices were just as slow so that I'd know it was the network and not my laptop.
[23:14] <kfizz> And this is the first time I've used this new laptop and Ubuntu 12.04 on this network -- I'd never seen the avahi message before and it's the same network as before.
[23:14] <zykotick9> TheMadDrizzle: FYI sharing swap is a BAD idea, if you use hibernate
[23:14] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: So on the 120 Gb HDD.  You'll need two roots (one for ubuntu, one for arch), an optional /home, and a swap.  The other hdd you can just partition and make mountpoints in the OS's later after they're installed
[23:14] <deadmund> zykotick9: TheMadDrizzle he's right about swap and hibernate.  But all it means is hibernate will be weird
[23:15] <tao> anybody got Ralink Rt2790 wireless pci adapter working under 12.04? i tried linux-backport-modules as well as ndiswrapper, both not working
[23:15] <zykotick9> TheMadDrizzle: also, sharing a home might not work so great either... expect issues.
[23:15] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: for example, if you hibernate ubuntu but then boot arch it will probs not boot well or the hibernation will be lost as best
[23:15] <blake_> In Ubuntu 12.04, is there a interface to manage startup programs? I want to add Skype to it.
[23:15] <W4sp> kfizz: Tehre are a variety of options you have. You can switch on debugging or check the status. Also, If all fails restart the daemon.
[23:15] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: he's right about that too
[23:15] <kfizz> TheMadDrizzle, just my .02, but I tried sharing a home between Ubuntu and Mint one time and it didn't work very well.
[23:15] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund: Okay, I generally powerdown my system when not in use, so that's okay.   So I need to create a root on my 80gb as well?  And Ubuntu wont let me partition with two root labled partitions
[23:16] <Delta|Mac> I have a Asus PCIe soundcard with the C-Media CMI8786 chipset. I know there is not much support in alsa.  Is there any known stable fix for playout? Ubuntu don't see the soundcards but lspci -nn does.
[23:16] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: 'root' is a mountpoint.  You should just create one big empty partition on the 80Gb.  It is not used as a root partition
[23:16] <jnhghy> blake_ try Aplications->system tools->preferences->startup programs
[23:16] <W4sp> kfizz: In a terminal window check man avahi or see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/avahi-daemon.8.html
[23:17] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Ubuntu won't let you modify partitions that are mounted and the root partition cannot be unmounted
[23:17] <kfizz> Thanks, w4sp, and arrrghhh. I'll try some other things and see if I can figure it out.
[23:17] <blake_> jnhghy there is no "Preferences" in Unity. I'm using 12.04 fresh install.
[23:18] <jnhghy> search for statup programs/ what do you want to run?what program?
[23:18] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund: Currently I'm running on a live cd, so deleting partitions isn't much of a problem.  I'm still confused as to which file system type and mount point to use for the partitions.
[23:18] <blake_> jnhghy I want to add a couple programs to start up when I login. There is no "Startup Programs"
[23:18] <xangua> blake_: jnhghy powe icon in the top right - startup apps
[23:18] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Use ext4 for everything.
[23:18] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund:  Maybe arch isn't right for me at this time, which is shitty I was really hoping to figure it out.
[23:19] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Arch is hard no doubt.
[23:19] <zykotick9> deadmund: s/hard/lame/ ;)
[23:19] <digitig> arrrghhh: How long should I have to wait for the mount command to come back? I've entered sudo mount -o soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.0.16:/tim /nfs and it's all gone quiet...
[23:19] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: But, if you install arch first, use the entire disc, then install Ubuntu.  Ubuntu will give you the option to install side-by-side with arch without messing it up
[23:19] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: What I would do is 2 of the same size ext4 partitions for root and then one large ext4 for a shared home partition. Swap at the end.
[23:20] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: The other order does not work because arch does not have such a feature built into their installer (although you can do it manually).
[23:20] <blake_> xangua Thanks!
[23:20] <playman> arrrghhh: you still there?
[23:20] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: My method would be more manual like deadmund said.
[23:20] <blake_> xangua funny it's not in "System Settings"
[23:20] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: Each distro installed needs a root and a swap.  So for each installer create an ext4 partition and mount it at root.  Then create a swap for each OS as well
[23:20] <arrrghhh> playman, yea what's up?  did i break everything?  :)
[23:21] <bekks> deadmund: You can share one swap among all distros.
[23:21] <playman> arrrghhh: man you screwed that router man
[23:21] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  Thats the way I've been trying to set it up, but with not to much luck.
[23:21] <playman> arrrghhh: nah just joking
[23:21] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: What are you using to partition?
[23:21] <deadmund> bekks: yes but it breaks hibernation
[23:21] <arrrghhh> digitig, i don't see a system type.  do those mountpoints exist as well?
[23:21] <arrrghhh> playman, lol don't mess with me like that!  :P
[23:21] <bekks> deadmund: ack. but no one forces you to use hibernation ;)
[23:22] <deadmund> bekks: indeed :)
[23:22] <ajax11124> In linux would installing a library to use with C++ be something thats IDE specific? Or do you install it on the system and it works with everything?
[23:22] <playman> arrrghhh: but that freaking router wont accept my new DHCP pool -.-
[23:22] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  I've got two physical drives.  120gb and a 80gb.  I wanted to dual boot ubuntu and arch on the 120 and use my 80gb as storage
[23:22] <W4sp> playman: You have a sense of humor.
[23:22] <playman> arrrghhh: lol sorry I wont :D
[23:22] <arrrghhh> playman, back to pm?
[23:22] <playman> arrrghhh: yeah sure
[23:22] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Are you using GParted to partition? that's the easiest route.
[23:22] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  ubuntu default partitioner.  I"m running on a live cd of ubuntu.
[23:22] <playman> W4sp: thank you :)
[23:23] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Run Gparted (outside of the installer) and create your partitions.
[23:23] <tao> is it possible to convert a partition from ext3 to ext4 and is there performance gain?
[23:23] <KatsumeBlisk> 2 root and swap on the 120 and a storage on the 80
[23:23] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: ^^
[23:24] <digitig> arrrghhh: I got that command from http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-nfs-client-configuration-to-mount-nfs-share.html -- yes, /nfs exists as a directory. The mount timed out, and showmount -e 192.168.1.1 returns "Connection refused". (I've no idea what showmount does, it's just an incantation I got from that website.)
[23:24] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: You need to be more specific about what you are confused about.  Or at least ask a question beside "I'm confused about how to do it"
[23:24] <arrrghhh> digitig, lol ok 1 sec
[23:25] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund:  I'm trying to distill it myself down to one or two questions, sorry for being vague.
[23:25] <arrrghhh> digitig, like this command : sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt
[23:25] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: That's ok!  Just trying to help you :)
[23:26] <TheMadDrizzle> deadmund:  I'm aware of how frustrating it is to try and help someone who says ' uh hey this doesnt work, help? '  I'm an avionics tech... pilots are dumb.
[23:26] <jnhghy> TheMadDrizzle: you can run partition tools from outside the ubuntu install program to set up your partitions. This is what KatsumeBlisk suggested
[23:26] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: :)
[23:26] <minimec> tao: Yes you can. You will have some performance gain, but it would be better to create a clean new ext4. Performance gain would be even better. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
[23:26] <TheMadDrizzle> jnhghy:  I'm currently looking at gparted right now
[23:29] <amr_> hi ,I need support
[23:29] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Is there anything else on these drives that you want preserved?
[23:30] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  no, not at all,  This laptop was a gift and had windows on it, all locked up.  So no, nothing needs to be saved.  I've currently formatted both hdds, so they're empty now.
[23:31] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Did you do two root and 1 swap on 120 and then one on 80?
[23:31] <deadmund> KatsumeBlisk: TheMadDrizzle I agree, do that.
[23:31] <KatsumeBlisk> !ask | amr_
[23:32] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  They should be about 55% for / and then 10% for swap?
[23:32] <TheMadDrizzle> katsumeBlisk:  Sorry 55%X2
[23:32] <amr_> I used the order to create swap file but it didn't work, my case is as follows I am on ubuntu live (on flash drive) and I wan to make swap file on my main hard disk
[23:33] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Question: Do you want these distros to share a home directory?
[23:33] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Basically, they'll
[23:33] <KatsumeBlisk> oops
[23:33] <irrswlx> .
[23:33] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Basically they'll "stay in sync". You won't have anything extra to do when using one distro over the other.
[23:33] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Your settings for applications will carry over too.
[23:34] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  Yes, I would prefer that.
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Is it possible for you to use the 120 has the storage and the 80 as the booted HDD? You'd get more storage this way.
[23:34] <OerHeks> I think that is a bad idea, sharing /home between ubuntu+arch
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Root doesn't need to be massive when you have home on a different partition.
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> OerHeks: Why's that?
[23:34] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  I dont see why I couldn't do that.
[23:35] <blake_> Where did "Advanced Desktop Effects" go in Ubuntu 12.04??
[23:35] <defnordic_> hi, I am trying to get cassandra up and running on ubuntu 11.04 - but cassandra never starts listening on port 9160, when I kill all processes and start cassandra -f, nothing happens and I have to kill it to stop it :/
[23:35] <amr_> here is the order (but it didn't work) >>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap
[23:36] <bazhang> blake_, in ccsm
[23:36] <deadmund> KatsumeBlisk: OerHeks I agree. One possible issue.  If you install xchat in both distros the same settings file will be used in the home folder and it is likely the settings files are constructed differently.  Therefore when Ubuntu xchat writes it's settings they will appear as nonsense to arch's xchat and visa-versa
[23:36] <bazhang> !ccsm | blake_
[23:36] <blake_> Thanks bazhang
[23:36] <KatsumeBlisk> deadmund: OerHeks I forgot that Arch uses different versions of programs since it's rolling. I agree. Oops
[23:37] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Scratch my idea. It's a bad one. Didn't fully think it through. I recommend doing what you were originally. 120 with 2 roots and swap and 80 as storage. Sorry about that.
[23:37] <JC-PTY> hello guys...
[23:37] <amr_> any one can tell me why the following order give me unexpected number of arguments? >>>>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap
[23:37] <deadmund> yeah
[23:38] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  Not a problem, i'm still mucking about anyways -=)
[23:38] <deadmund> KatsumeBlisk: TheMadDrizzle I agree with that
[23:38] <OerHeks> You can add a seperate partition to share media/documents and data from apps
[23:38] <blake_> If anyone from the Ubuntu development team is online, I'd like to thank you. Ubuntu is running really nice for me and I'm telling EVERYONE about it!
[23:38] <JC-PTY> I would like to know the commands on how to start xvnc from my ssh session so that i can have control of the full GUI when needed
[23:38] <deadmund> OerHeks: that's what he's doing on the separate 80Gb
[23:38] <KatsumeBlisk> OerHeks: Yeah. I was trying to be cool and have home be shared. On distros with the same version (ie Mint and Ubuntu), that's really helpful. lol.
[23:38] <JC-PTY> i have Ubuntu 12.04
[23:40] <CRF_H0M3R> hiho
[23:40] <amr_> any one can tell me why the following order give me unexpected number of arguments? >>>>> fallocate -l 6g /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/ubuntu live drive program files/6g.swap
[23:40] <KatsumeBlisk> !patience | amr_
[23:41] <goldenwest> anyone know of a command-line utility to quiz yourself with "notecards" containing various questions
[23:41] <bawwwller> hi is Mark Shuttleworth still the one who cracks the whip?
[23:43] <bazhang> !ot | bawwwller
[23:45] <OerHeks> amr_, try "fallocate -l 6GB ..... " >> see man fallocate
[23:46] <zilla_> hi
[23:46] <zilla_> where is the window management settings? to control what folders look like
[23:46] <Delta|Mac> I have a Asus PCIe soundcard with the C-Media CMI8786 chipset. I know there is not much support in alsa.  Is there any known stable fix for playout? Ubuntu don't see the soundcards but lspci -nn does.
[23:46] <zilla_> new to ubuntu 12
[23:47] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk, deadmund:  Thank you both for the help!
[23:47] <amr_> oerheks: didn't work too
[23:47] <deadmund> TheMadDrizzle: sure
[23:47] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: Is that all you needed?
[23:47] <zilla_> how to cgange to mist theme?
[23:47] <minimec> amr_: I just start reading your question. So you want to create a 6GB swap file? You could also use 'dd' for that. The command would besomthing like: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/6144MB.swap bs=1M count=6144 That would create a 6GB file in /mnt. You would then have to add that one in your /etc/fstab
[23:48] <TheMadDrizzle> KatsumeBlisk:  I think so, I may be back later with more vague questions!
[23:48] <KatsumeBlisk> TheMadDrizzle: No problem! Glad I could help. :)
[23:50] <amr_> minimec: thank you so much for answering me but I am very new here and need step by step help, so the case is that I am on ubuntu live on my flash bootable drive and I want to make swap file on my main hard disk to be able to hibernate so is this possible?
[23:51] <blake_> What command do I use to launch a program minimized?
[23:51] <KatsumeBlisk> blake_: With the command line or what?
[23:52] <KatsumeBlisk> blake_: With CLI, I believe it's <program> &
[23:52] <blake_> KatsumeBlisk no for gnome
[23:52] <blake_> Like Skype
[23:53] <OerHeks> some programs use -min others use -systray
[23:53] <bugaloo> Hi all! So... I have an old dv2000 hp laptop, running ubuntu 12.04, and when I'm using the battery, the sound appears to go to standby, but it doesn't work well, and it keeps  "clicking", like if it was going in and out of standby mode... any leads?
[23:53] <blake_> OerHeks I have already checked the software's command line arguments.
[23:53] <KatsumeBlisk> I think my answer was background and not minimized...
[23:53] <blake_> KatsumeBlisk Yes I agree =)
[23:54] <minimec> amr_: This is possible. You would have to mount the partition you want to use for the swap file first. What file system would that partition use? ext4 or ntfs?
[23:54] <caixa> is there a good equalizer for ubuntu?  i tried the pulseaudio one and it distorts and overamps too much
[23:54] <amr_> it's ntfs with windows 7 on it
[23:55] <arrrghhh> digitig, you get it workin?  sorry i haven't seen you ping me
[23:55] <amr_> I just want to use 6g of it as my swap file for my live ubuntu system without any problems for windows 7 sys
[23:56] <OerHeks> There is a tool called devilspie for minimised or open dedicated screen http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-start-applications-minimized.html
[23:56] <arrrghhh> amr_, swap needs to be raw empty disk basically
[23:56] <dylan> I have that red caution triangle at the top of my screen, however when I check for updates, there are none available.
[23:57] <minimec> amr_: First create a folder, where you want to mount that partition to. For example: sudo mkdir -p /media/win7 (--> new folder win7 in /media)
[23:57] <amr_> arrrghh: I am not sure I understand you, I don't want to make a partition swap just swap file !!!
[23:57] <dylan> amr_:swap HAS to be a partition
[23:57] <eidsten> Hey! I have a question i'm hoping someone could answer: Which distro would run best on a 64MB ram system?
[23:57] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: There's no such thing as a swap file afaik. It's a partition.
[23:57] <dylan> amr_: it only has to be a few gigs tho
[23:57] <digitig> arrrghhh: No joy with that mount command, either. For what it's worth, I can see the drive just fine if I point an internet browser at the IP address. I've also checked the  iomega documentation again. It says to use their Linux setup software, but it's 32-bit only and I have a 64-bit installation.
[23:57] <dylan> eidsten: I would try something like puppy linux or Damn Small Linux
[23:58] <minimec> amr_: then you have to check how ubuntu sees that partiton right now: sudo fdisk -l (--> will list all available partitions)
[23:58] <arrrghhh> digitig, nah this shouldn't be so difficult.  maybe it's the type of NFS we're using.  have you tried v3?
[23:58] <eidsten> dylan: I tried Puppy already, it's kind of slow(!) perhaps it's the GPU, i'll try DSL! Thank you!
[23:59] <amr_> minimec: my main hard disk is alrady monted to ubuntu
[23:59] <bugaloo> does anybody know how to disable the auto standby of sound system when the laptop is running on battery?
[23:59] <amr_> and I made folder on it which I want to add the sawp file inside it with this name: ubuntu live drive program files