[01:25] <Guest7013> hey guys does anyone know why xubuntu doesnt have window tiling whereas the linux mint version has it?
[01:27] <Guest7013> is anyone even here?
[01:45] <sdejean_at_gn> Guest43253, I think that has to do w/ XFCE version
[01:46] <sdejean_at_gn> Guest43253, xubuntu is still on 4.8 for their LTS release, Mint is on 4.10
[03:21] <n2diy> Recently upgraded from 10.xx LTS to 12.04 LTS, and no more youtube or facebook videos!? Restricted Extras and Adobe Installer are installed, what gives?
[03:37] <etrask> Hello all. I have the latest Xubuntu installed but when I am trying to connect to my wireless password, in the dialog where it asks for my password, the "Connect" button is grayed out after I paste it in. What gives?
[03:38] <etrask> wireless network*, sorry
[03:39] <Maccer> Too long, invalid format, etrask?
[03:39] <Maccer> Depending on the encryption there's different requirements.  Make sure you're not violating any of them
[03:40] <etrask> Maccer: can't be, it is the password. I trimmed it for invalid characters too. It works under Windows and on other machines
[03:40] <Maccer> Are you sure it's properly pasting it?  I can try checking my laptop I guess...
[03:42] <etrask> maybe that was it, I tried copy/pasting from a different app and it worked
[03:42] <etrask> thanks Maccer!
[03:42] <etrask> yeah I use WPA2 and always make the password random gibberish, 63 characters long. I couldn't type or remember it to save my life but luckily you mostly only ever need it once :P
[03:43] <Unit193> Heh, I've had to type that before, many times.  Not fun.
[03:43] <Maccer> Yeap.  Worked from uhh... leafpad over here.
[03:43] <Unit193> n2diy: Try dpkg -l |grep flash    and tell us what the output is.
[03:44] <etrask> that's the default text editor? Wasn't working for me for whatever reason
[03:44] <etrask> cat'd to a terminal and copied THAT and THAT worked. Who knows
[03:45] <etrask> alrighty thanks guys
[03:49] <n2diy> Unit193,  that only returned  " Adobe Flash Player Installer".
[03:50] <Unit193> And a name, but I personally would purge that, enable the partner repo, and install adobe-flashplugin.
[03:51] <Maccer> Does anyone here happen to know how you would get epsxe to recognize outdated libgtk-1.2?  The problem is, I can't install it because it complains about a dependency.  If I manually extract it to /usr/lib32, epsxe still scans into /usr/lib
[03:52] <Maccer> (I'm on a 64-bit system, and I need both the 64-bit and 32-bit version of libgtk-1.2 because some one decided it was a good idea to remove it in 12.04)
[05:27] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know how to fix this conflict?  I have an old 32-bit application that reads /usr/lib (64-bit) instead of /usr/lib32.  Is there any work around I can do to fix this?  (64-bit system with both 32-bit and 64-bit libs)
[05:42] <well_laid_lawn> Maccer: do you have  ia32-libs  installed?
[05:42] <well_laid_lawn> !info  ia32-libs
[05:42] <well_laid_lawn> !find  ia32-libs
[05:42] <well_laid_lawn> ^^
[05:43] <well_laid_lawn> !info  ia32-libs-multiarch
[05:49] <Maccer> Yes I do well_laid_lawn
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:18] <goliat> Hui. I'm running Win 7 & Xubuntu in dual boot. I have the issue though that every time I've used Xubuntu and start up Windows the clock is two hours behind, in Xubuntu it's fine. It's only when I have used Xubuntu and log into windows.
[09:21] <TheSheep> goliat: that's because xubuntu uses utc time, you can change it in the settings, let me find it
[09:23] <TheSheep> goliat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple_Boot_Systems_Time_Conflicts
[09:24] <goliat> TheSheep: Nice! Thank you!
[10:10] <kondi> I'm getting "unable to open xfce4-composite-editor no such file or dir"
[10:11] <Sysi> what are you trying to do?
[10:11] <kondi> I wanted to chaneg some settings so I opened settings manager and clicked on the composite editor
[10:12] <kondi> that's when I got this message
[10:13] <Sysi> I wonder what is that.. xfce compositing settings are in xfwm4-tweaks-settings
[10:14] <kondi> it says failed to execute child process
[10:15] <kondi> it works with xfwm4-tweaks-settings
[10:28] <aquix> does anyone have a nice dark theme for xubuntu 12.04?
[10:56] <xubuntu723> how to connect to wireless network Xubuntu 8?
[10:57] <xubuntu723> please help me
[10:57] <xubuntu723> I'm italian girl
[10:58] <baizon> hi italian girl :)
[10:59] <baizon> xubuntu723: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-connect.html
[10:59] <baizon> does this help?
[11:01] <baizon> xubuntu723: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SNUseZEn-4
[11:02] <baizon> you have xubuntu 8.04?
[11:02] <baizon> did i read correct?
[11:48] <DarkSim> Is there any way to make a panel usable while desktop is active?
[11:49] <TheSheep> DarkSim: what do you mean?
[11:49] <DarkSim> I like the idea of a panel that becomes visible when I hover over it like the standard of xubuntu uses
[11:50] <DarkSim> but I usually have maximized windows and tend to move the mouse to the top of the window only to open it by mistake
[11:51] <DarkSim> So if it could only become possible to bring forth when I have the desktop as active window, I would not accidentally bring it up all the time :P
[11:52] <TheSheep> I don't think it's possible
[11:52] <TheSheep> one thing that comes to mind is to use desklets instead of a panel
[11:53] <DarkSim> Hm, perhaps if I could increase the timer before the panel popped up
[11:53] <DarkSim> Maybe it should happen that often
[11:54] <DarkSim> n't*
[11:54] <TheSheep> DarkSim: or you could make it not span the whole width od the screen
[11:54] <TheSheep> DarkSim: leave some space in the corner
[11:55] <DarkSim> it doesn't take the whole top that's the problem
[11:55] <DarkSim> I'm used to touch the middle of a window somehow lol
[11:55] <TheSheep> you could also put it on some other side of the screen
[11:56] <DarkSim> "Get Ubuntu, they said" "It doesn't need system restarts like Windows, they said"
[11:56] <DarkSim> Lawl, rebooting anyway, ta-ta
[11:57] <nooitgedacht> Hi, my T60 started shutting down recently without me doing anything. i'm running xubuntu 12.04 – which logfile would contain information on reason for halting? Cheers!
[11:59] <DarkSim> Here's Johnny!
[11:59] <DarkSim> Time to tackle the Wacom tablet issue once and for all :D
[12:01] <TheSheep> nooitgedacht: /var/log/kern.log.1
[12:01] <TheSheep> nooitgedacht: and /var/log/dmesg.log.1
[12:02] <TheSheep> nooitgedacht: /var/log/dmesg.0 sorry
[12:02] <nooitgedacht> TheSheep: thanks a lot!
[12:04] <nooitgedacht> TheSheep: /var/log/kern.log.1 is blank, is that normal?
[12:06] <nooitgedacht> TheSheep:  /var/log/dmesg.0 is full of stuff I don't understand, do you know what it says before it goes down?
[12:06] <nooitgedacht> TheSheep: Thanks for your help
[12:06] <DarkSim> TheSheep: adrian@DarkSim-Ubuntu:~$ chmod +x $HOME/bin/toggle-touch.sh
[12:06] <DarkSim> chmod: cannot access `/home/adrian/bin/toggle-touch.sh': No such file or directory
[12:07] <DarkSim> not even if I remove /bin from the dir
[12:07] <DarkSim> since it's just straight into my folder
[12:07] <TheSheep> DarkSim: you have to first create that file with a text editor, and paste that code into it
[12:07] <DarkSim> I have done that
[12:08] <TheSheep> had you done that, it wouldn't sat "no such file"
[12:08] <TheSheep> say*
[12:08] <DarkSim> Just a quick question, IF I have already made it an executable, will it give me an error too?
[12:12] <TheSheep> no
[12:13] <DarkSim> toggle-touch.sh is the name
[12:13] <DarkSim> it's in my folder called adrian
[12:13] <DarkSim> the command is copied to the letter
[12:13] <DarkSim> apart from the device name which is specific to my tablet
[12:14] <TheSheep> DarkSim: then use the correct path to that file
[12:15] <DarkSim> Is there any easy way to get the full path?
[12:16] <DarkSim> Nevermind
[12:17] <DarkSim> I have solved the touch problem even if I don't a single idea why
[12:17] <DarkSim> The thing is that I set it up properly about 3 months ago when I first tried Ubuntu with Unity
[12:18] <DarkSim> when I switched to Xubuntu the shortcut was lost, I forgot that the first time I and a guy who helped me created a executable .sh file but it couldn't be called anything but test
[12:18] <DarkSim> I don't remember what that was all about, but I found that test.sh and used that as a shortcut instead
[12:20] <DarkSim> If you do have an explanation for that occurance, you can feel free to try and explain it but for now it's time to try my drawing skills
[12:24] <TheSheep> have fun
[12:49] <tech1> i having a problem with multiple monitors. i could fit my new monitor into the pci graphics card then an nvidia x server app would appear in my menu and it would work... but now i stuck both my new monitors in my mobo so i have dual screens.. im trying to stick a 3rd older monitor in the pci graphics card now and in settings-display i can see it, i click use this output, but it never sticks(when i go back again it is disa
[12:49] <tech1> bled).. and i can see it in arandr but if i click apply in the layout with the 3rd monitor, i get crt not found error
[12:50] <TheSheep> tech1: sounds like you need to report a bug to nvidia
[12:51] <tech1> is there a better program for monitor settings i can install? or some sort of full guide somewhere with a list of commands for doing it manually?
[12:51] <TheSheep> tech1: once you are at it, you could also tell them to open source their drivers finally
[12:51] <TheSheep> tech1: you can try xrandr
[12:51] <TheSheep> tech1: it's a command line tool
[12:51] <tech1> well i suppose it could be the monitor itself... i cant find a decent list of commands for testing though
[12:51] <tech1> ah i see
[12:51] <tech1> i have arandr. is that just as good?
[12:51] <TheSheep> see xrandr --help for help
[12:52] <tech1> oh xrandr works in my terminal too
[12:52] <tech1> thanks ill try it
[12:52] <TheSheep> afaik arandr is a gui for xrandr
[12:52] <tech1> ahh i see
[12:52] <tech1> cool :) thanks
[13:04] <soliloquy> Hi. I'd like to start dual booting Xubuntu with OS X Mountain Lion on my Macbook Air. Can someone help me?
[13:09] <DarkSim> The F is strong with this one
[13:09] <DarkSim> lol
[13:10] <DarkSim> aaaand I am in the wrong chat :S
[13:21] <Sysi> soliloquy: you should try #ubuntu or mactel help pages in ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[13:30] <c_smith> hi, is there a way to completely convert my Kubuntu OS into Xubuntu without reinstalling?
[13:31] <TheSheep> sure
[13:31] <c_smith> then is installing xubuntu-desktop enough?
[13:32] <c_smith> currently doing that, but wanted to know if it was possible to remove most of the KDE apps (save a select few) for space reasons.
[13:32] <c_smith> it is possible, correct?
[13:37] <TheSheep> c_smith: sure, you can remove anything you don't want
[13:37] <c_smith> cool. thanks man! :D
[13:37] <c_smith> though tbh, later I'll likely do a proper conversion to make sure I get rid of most of the junk (including configs)
[13:38] <c_smith> just don't have time atm.
[13:38] <TheSheep> c_smith: if you remove the kubuntu-dekstop and then run 'sudo apt-get autoremove', it should remove all the non-xubuntu apps
[13:38] <c_smith> alright.
[13:38] <TheSheep> c_smith: use the --purge option for apt-get to make it delete the configs too
[13:39] <c_smith> I wonder, would the support for that still constitute for Kubuntu, or would I essentially switch it to Xubuntu's support terms (which are different in LTS than Kubuntu and Ubuntu)
[13:39] <c_smith> not that I use LTSes overly much.
[13:40] <TheSheep> no idea
[13:40] <c_smith> alright.
[13:40] <TheSheep> you will still get any upgrades for the common part
[13:40] <c_smith> well, that's all the questions I wanted answered. thanks! :D
[14:07] <t0ken> g'mornin folks.  I've got the latest xubuntu installed on a box with a dual core Intel Pentium 2.8ghz cpu with 2GB of RAM.   XFCE seems a bit sluggish, even just keyboard input.  Anyone have some resources or some guidance to help me disable things or otherwise tweak performance?
[14:09] <Sysi> t0ken: what graphics card?
[14:10] <t0ken> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV410 [Radeon X700 (PCIE)
[14:10] <t0ken> I'm using the fglrx drivers though...atleasst I think so
[14:11] <t0ken> I guess I should also mention I'm running 2 monitors
[14:13] <GridCube> t0ken, i havent had that such of problems on slower machines, so... i dont know why would that happen to you
[14:14] <GridCube> are you using your proper driver?
[14:14] <GridCube> +s
[14:14] <t0ken> initially it was using the 'ati' driver which caused all kinds of issues and crashes.  Switched to the fglrx stuff and it at leasts works now
[14:15] <t0ken> but things like switching from one virtual desktop to another takes 750ms or so
[14:15] <t0ken> I had been running Ubuntu Hardy on here with gnome and it was pretty snappy
[14:16] <t0ken> I'm guessing there's just more "stuff" now
[14:16] <t0ken> or I've gotten something incredibly fuzzed
[14:16] <GridCube> mmhm, probably, my experience has teached me to always buy nvidia or intel so :/ i hope someone else can help you there
[14:16] <t0ken> heh, I agree
[14:17] <t0ken> but this is a desktop at work
[14:17] <t0ken> Lenovo ftw!  or..something...
[14:17] <t0ken> k, so lemme ask this..  Is there an easy way to tell exactly what driver X is using currently?
[14:18] <GridCube> jockey-gtk should tell you
[14:18] <t0ken> heh "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[14:21] <GridCube> does it gives you some options?
[14:21] <t0ken> nada
[14:21] <GridCube> que mal
[14:22] <t0ken> I'll go troll AMD's site, see if there's soemthing updated there
[14:23] <GridCube> t0ken, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:24] <t0ken> Oh...that looks promising
[14:25] <t0ken> why has my previous googling failed me for that
[14:25]  * t0ken facepalms
[14:33] <jillsmitt> hi
[14:34] <jillsmitt> indicator applets for xfce panel ignore my color sets
[14:34] <jillsmitt> why? and how to fix it?
[14:34] <TrollingForSoup> I've had that issue too.
[14:34] <TrollingForSoup> But with custom icon sets they seem to follow the theme.
[14:58] <tech1> anyone know how to change the color of the Xchat irc client panels? they are mid grey right now -same color as my desktop interface
[15:05] <GridCube> tech1, in the color options of the >configuration >preferences you have all the colors you can control
[15:05] <GridCube> the rest are taken from the gtk theme you are using
[15:06] <tech1> there is no way to override the ones where it uses the gtk theme colos?
[15:08] <Alisson_BR> You speak portugues?
[15:08] <GridCube> !br | Alisson_BR
[15:09] <GridCube> :)
[15:09] <GridCube> tech1, not that i know off
[15:09] <tech1> ok thanks anyway
[15:29] <xubuntu893> hi
[15:29] <xubuntu893> I am installing xubuntu
[15:30] <xubuntu893> I am intalling xubuntu because it is 1)lightweight 2haas the hardware support of ubuntu and 3)has the software I like
[15:30] <xubuntu893> I like xubuntu
[15:33] <baizon> thank you :)
[16:17] <visitor> hello :-)
[16:42] <eph3meral> in XFCE, I'm having some weird issues where occasionally (not all the time, but very very often) when I click on a window and let go, it's as if my mouse hasn't registered that I let go, so the window is stuck to my cursor and I'm in "window move mode" until I click again - I have been googling for a while, but I have no idea how to explain this problem to google to get the results I want - has anyone else seen or had this proble
[16:42] <eph3meral> m on Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:42] <eph3meral> sorry for xpostv
[16:43] <eph3meral> not sure if this is an XFCE issue or an Ubuntu specific issue - afaik I'm not using the "ubuntu" xfce config, I just chose "default xfce config" the first time I logged in
[16:52] <eph3meral> ok,, system update, still having the same issue(s) - totally weird, really hard to reproduce accurately also - seems almost random, but still happens a good 50% of the time I click on almost anything it seems
[17:05] <arnsa> Hello
[17:05] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:10] <stephenf> hello, anyone willing to assist with issues related to my keyboard not working properly? i'm having to use a usb keyboard right now
[17:11] <stephenf> also, the aforementioned keyboard was working perfectly fine until last night
[17:15] <GridCube> !notworking | stephenf
[17:15] <GridCube> mmm
[17:15] <GridCube> !details | stephenf
[17:16] <GridCube> it was !doesntwork :P
[17:16] <arnsa> Why when I've installed XFCE wireless on my laptop keep disconnecting?
[17:17] <stephenf> I am using Xubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Studio XPS 1640 laptop. the keyboard actually on the laptop appears to have entirely stopped working. no input is doing anything.
[17:18] <GridCube> stephenf, care to pastebin the output of xinput ?
[17:19] <arnsa> why is everyone ignoring my question?
[17:19] <GridCube> arnsa, because we dont know
[17:19] <GridCube> !patience | arnsa
[17:20] <stephenf> if you're willing to tell me what to do to get that output of xinput, i'll gladly upload it to pastebin
[17:20] <GridCube> !pastebin | stephenf
[17:20] <drc> !details | arnsa  This applies to you too
[17:21] <GridCube> stephenf, just open a terminal, execute xinput copy the text to paste and send us the link :)
[17:21] <arnsa> drc I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the latests Xubuntu Desktop GUI. Before I was using Unity and everything was fine, but now when I installed Xubuntu, after an hour or so wireless of my laptop started disconnecting every 20secs and it reconnects.
[17:22] <GridCube> arnsa, have you rebooted since?
[17:23] <arnsa> GridCube, yes, and I've tried to reboot when the problem came up, but that didn't help.
[17:23] <stephenf> http://pastebin.com/Upy1Kwxk as i've said, i'm using a keyboard plugged in via USB right now since the one on the laptop isn't working. just in case that's relevant to this data
[17:23] <GridCube> i find that when i try to connect to a network with low signal it sometimes starts reconnecting and reconnecting, the only solution i've found is to reboot
[17:23] <GridCube> stephenf, it might be
[17:23] <arnsa> GridCube, the router is standing about 20cm from the laptop
[17:23] <arnsa> signal is best you can get
[17:24] <GridCube> arnsa, maybe delete the stored wifi details from nnm-connection-editor
[17:24] <arnsa> GridCube, how can I do it?
[17:24] <GridCube> go to the network icon on the desktop bar
[17:24] <drc> stephenf: Have you tried booting from a LiveCD/USB to see if the keyboard works then?
[17:25] <GridCube> go to >edit connections, find the one you are using, delete it and retry the connection
[17:26] <stephenf> I haven't yet, but I don't have easy access to my flash drive (being borrowed) and have no cd-r's. also, the keyboard worked perfectly fine up until last night when it kinda just "bugged out" on me (wasn't responding to input, acted as if i was holding a key down) and now it simply isnt working
[17:26] <GridCube> stephenf, well xinput knows that you have two keyboards, see the ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard                    id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)] thats the laptop one
[17:27] <GridCube> mmm, stephenf did you run a kernel update?
[17:27] <GridCube> you could try to choose an old kernel at the boot stage to see if there is some problem there
[17:27] <arnsa> GridCube that didnt help
[17:27] <GridCube> :(
[17:28] <stephenf> i don't believe so? i don't believe i installed any updates last night
[17:28] <stephenf> i still have updates queued right now, actually
[17:28] <GridCube> ok
[17:29] <GridCube> stephenf, question, does the bios stage recognizes your keyboard?
[17:30] <GridCube> like pressing F11 to choose boot or stuff like that?
[17:30] <drc> Dell uses f2, iirc, to dirrectly to the bios
[17:30] <stephenf> i can test that if you'd like me to, i haven't tried yet
[17:30] <GridCube> ^ that
[17:30] <GridCube> you should if it doesnt its a hw problem
[17:31] <drc> stephenf: if it does work, we'll know it not a hw problem
[17:31] <stephenf> alright, i'll try it. i haven't installed any bios from dell since i installed xubuntu, should i?
[17:32] <stephenf> i went there to look for drivers but it guided me to a bios file
[17:32] <drc> no...just try what you have
[17:32] <stephenf> alright
[17:32] <stephenf> ill be back in just a moment
[17:34] <stephenf2> well
[17:34] <stephenf2> no recognition during BIOs
[17:35] <drc> oppss
[17:35] <stephenf2> time to open it up and check physical connections?
[17:35] <GridCube> stephenf2, :( im sorry but thats a hw problem
[17:35] <drc> stephenf: you did disconnect the USB keyboard?  (Just in case)
[17:35] <stephenf2> no i didnt
[17:36] <stephenf2> ill do that :P my bad
[17:36] <drc> try they before opening it up
[17:37] <GridCube> arnsa, sorry i cant think about a solution to your problem
[17:38] <stephenf_> still no recognition with the usb keyboard removed
[17:38] <GridCube> welp, sorry mate
[17:39] <stephenf_> no worries, i greatly appreciate all the help
[17:39] <stephenf_> time to shut down and check physical connections
[17:39] <stephenf_> again, thanks for the help, everyone
[17:39] <drc> At least you wont waste any more time trying a software solution :(
[17:39] <GridCube> maybe some dirt its blocking something :)
[17:40] <stephenf_> lol i finally pinged out
[17:40] <stephenf_> but yeah, thanks everyone. gonna hope for the best when i open it up
[17:41] <stephenf_> and if i get the worst.. well.. replacement keyboard is only $20.. haha
[17:42] <drc> And the newer Dells are easier to replace things than they used to be...I've replace my keyboard on my 1420N and it was surprisinigly easy
[17:45] <arnsa> I don't get it where's the problem with the wireless :(
[17:45] <arnsa> I just keep disconnecting every 10secs on my Ubuntu 12.04
[17:45] <arnsa> It*
[19:34] <aicasn> quick poll....   if nasa asked for volunteers to go to mars and set up camp, would you sign up?
[19:35] <aicasn> they'll cover expenses and such... just move to mars and figure out how to live there
[19:35] <Unit193> That's rather offtopic, so should be in #xubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic...
[19:36] <aicasn> true...but no on-topic stuff happening. i'll go away
[19:43] <martinphone> id try, but i doubt i would pass their physical exam
[20:44] <SwissReefer> Hi there, I need some assistance please
[20:45] <SwissReefer> Anyone there ?
[20:45] <Unit193> !hi
[20:45] <SwissReefer> Hi Unit193
[20:47] <SwissReefer> I'm actually installing Xubuntu on my laptop. I speak french and downloaded a french xubuntu installer. Everything was in french, all parameters during installation were set up french and now that the installation is complete the system is in english
[20:49] <Unit193> Where'd you get the download?
[20:49] <SwissReefer> http://ubuntu-fr.org/
[20:50] <tnorris> today I've noticed that if I hold left-alt for a few seconds I'm asked to logout. not sure what's going on. any ideas? (using 12.04)
[20:58] <pleia2> !fr
[20:58] <pleia2> SwissReefer: perhaps ask there?
[20:58] <Unit193> SwissReefer: There is a "language support" option in the settings manager.
[20:58] <Unit193> Also, there should be something on the login screen, IIRC.
[21:02] <tnorris> for some reason holding left-alt triggers XF86PowerOff. anyone have an idea why that is happening?
[21:03] <Sysi> hardware or kernel feature I'd guess
[21:03] <tnorris> strange. I don' even know where I'd look for something like that.
[21:04] <Unit193> Settings manager > Keyboard > Shortcuts
[21:05] <tnorris> Unit193: nothing's mapped there. I'm looking at it now.
[21:07] <tnorris> There must be a short in the laptop keyboard. it doesn't happen with my external keyboard.
[21:07] <tnorris> ugh
[21:07] <Sysi> check power manager settings, stuff sbout pushing buttons
[21:09] <tnorris> Sysi: heh, dirty fix of just disabling the power button worked. That will have to do until I figure out what's going on.
[21:09] <tnorris> thanks for the tip
[21:10] <Sysi> adjusting features is not dirty fix..
[21:11] <tnorris> Sysi: what I meant is that the shutdown command is still being sent when I hit left-alt, and disabling that feature because I can't fix the actual problem is what I would call a dirty fix.
[21:13] <Sysi> you could try changing keyboard model in settings
[21:40] <xubuntu144> hi guys
[21:41] <xubuntu144> just a question if someone is listening here :)
[21:41] <xubuntu144> im trying to install xubuntu on a hp t5740 thin client
[21:41] <GridCube> mmhm?
[21:41] <xubuntu144> is there a way to customize the setup to it takes something like 500MB of space instead of 4.7GB?
[21:42] <Unit193> !mini
[21:42] <GridCube> if you install from the alternate iso instead of the desktop iso it usually takes a lot less
[21:42] <xubuntu144> i downloaded the 600MB'ish iso
[21:42] <xubuntu144> but its still willing  a lot more
[21:43] <GridCube> i've installed the alternate iso on 4gb machines with about 2gb free after that
[21:43] <GridCube> but if you are concerned about space you should check lubuntu
[21:43] <xubuntu144> oh 27MB, alright :)
[21:43] <GridCube> or even smaller distros like tinycore
[21:44] <xubuntu144> will the minimal cd install give me a desktop?
[21:46] <well_laid_lawn> no just cli
[21:46] <xubuntu144> ok, testing lubuntu then
[21:51] <xubuntu144> loading...
[21:53] <xubuntu144> it is saying it needs 4.4GB of install space, is it not installing on my usb stick?
[21:58] <GridCube> xubuntu144, it needs that space to leave a working enviroment, for files and stuff
[21:58] <xubuntu144> lubuntu is too big for the space i got, i have 2GB
[21:58] <GridCube> xubuntu144, check tinycore
[21:58] <xubuntu144> it just gave an error and stopped the install process after giving a name to the machine
[21:58] <xubuntu144> checking tinycore
[21:59] <xubuntu144> does it have a desktop? the aim is to run xbmc
[21:59] <GridCube> its not ubuntu based, but it works
[21:59] <GridCube> xubuntu144, it sure does
[21:59] <GridCube> :) check it
[21:59] <xubuntu144> sorry to be dumb, which iso of tinycore shall i choose?
[21:59] <GridCube> xubuntu144, if your objective is to use xbmc why dont you just simply install geexbox?
[22:00] <xubuntu144> because i dont know it exists :) what is it?
[22:00] <GridCube> xbmc in an iso
[22:00] <GridCube> http://www.geexbox.org/
[22:01] <xubuntu144> can i deploy it on an usb stick with linux live usb creator?
[22:01] <xubuntu144> i mean make it ready to be installed...
[22:01] <GridCube> it should run from it
[22:01] <GridCube> no need to install
[22:02] <xubuntu144> ???
[22:02] <xubuntu144> i want it to run from internal mem
[22:02] <GridCube> oh, it can do that aswell :)
[22:02] <xubuntu144> doing................
[22:02] <xubuntu144> :)
[22:04] <xubuntu144> there is only "start" not "install"?
[22:05] <GridCube> xubuntu144, :) read their wikis
[22:06] <GridCube> or google, there are ways
[22:06] <GridCube> i rememeber doing it on previous versions of geexbox, before they used xbmc
[22:06] <GridCube> http://www.geexbox.org/geexbox-for-pc-booting-from-hdd/
[22:13] <tech1> i had 2 monitors (dual setup)in my mobos gpu. i moved my pc so unplugged them and replugged them in the same way but when i restrated the pc it set my pci card as default again... i set the gpu as default in the bios...restarted and still the pci was default but now the gpu option is missing from my bios.... now in arandr i can only see one the one monitor output, instead of the bunch of mobo gpu outputs i had before... i
[22:13] <tech1> s my mobo's gpu damaged from replugging somehow... or do i need to do some special xrandr config to detect them again?
[22:18] <xubuntu144> the thing is i got no OS running on that machine, so i cant write on HDD
[22:18] <xubuntu144> is there an iso that installs on HDD?
[22:22] <GridCube> xubuntu144, you could copy the files from another live session
[22:22] <GridCube> tech1, you could try configuring using arandr
[22:23] <GridCube> ah sorry
[22:23] <GridCube> dindt read completely
[22:23]  * GridCube hides
[22:27] <tech1> arandr only shows 1 output... the nvidia xserver thing has come up again though... funny because when i had the monitors in the gpu, i couldnt get the pci/nvidia stuff up at all.... now all i can get is nvidia
[22:28] <tech1> except i cant setup the second monitor on nvidia for some reason... the apply button is greyd out
[22:28] <tech1> theres a button that says "aquire edid" for the second monitor.. could this help?
[22:30] <tech1> hmmmm... and on nvidia xserver although i cant use the second display it has detected them both...it says dfp-0 on gpu0 and crt1 on gpu0.....isnt gpu meant to be for the mobo?
[22:31] <tech1> ahhh
[22:31] <tech1> ok i have the second monitor working with nvidia
[22:31] <tech1> sort off..
[22:33] <tech1> when i move a window to the second monitor... everything dissapears off the primary
[22:40] <tech1> ok im going to restard and try the bios again...
[22:47] <tech1> damn it still missing from bios
[22:52] <tech1> aha!
[22:52] <tech1> ok i have the nvidia second monitor set up properly now
[22:53] <tech1> the windows on the primary dissapeared because i moved it to the left when the secondary was set to right
[22:56] <tech1> now to reboot and hope it stays like this...
[23:07] <tech1> it works! i have won
[23:22] <xubuntu144> ok i could install puppy but after rebooting, it looks like its only a blinking cursor lol