[00:12] is possible to install kde and mate with no conflict ? [00:13] aguitel, mate with ? [00:18] BluesKaj, mate de [00:20] aguitel, kde is a de . it doesn't mate with itself [00:20] no need [00:22] if I misunderstood , then pls explain further , aguitel [00:42] hai. ... hoping someone here can help me get this printer working. =] ... Kubuntu 12.04; Dell Photo Printer 720 .. ... the system recognized it, but I'm not sure it installed properly === guestaoNuAu is now known as QUEEN === QUEEN is now known as Guest25100 [01:44] AHA!! I haz solved it. ... it is ACTUALLY a Lexmark Z600, and one must download the appropriate drivers as such [01:58] I need help with Banshee on Kubuntu, it keeps stalling, or half crashing just after boot. How can I troubleshoot? [02:16] panik run it from konsole you will get some info back . [02:46] I type bespin in to package manger and get nothing... I thought that was a common package for kde [02:46] i think the package is kwin-style-bespin [02:47] still bespin should pull it up [02:47] it should [02:47] nothing [02:47] it could also be removed === ja227 is now known as Parkitect [03:17] Hello? [03:18] hi [03:18] I am new to ubuntu and would like some assistance [03:19] ok idk if i can help you but what do you need help with? [03:19] well... your going to laugh... but [03:20] I'm trying to link my steam files from my windows partion to the steam I have installed thru wine. [03:20] ok [03:20] it says there is a way but I cant even find my main steam files on the ubuntu [03:21] i understand. thats because its hidden. [03:22] Could you please walk me thru how to find them.. [03:22] now on linux and unix any file that stats with a . will be hidden (just something to remember) in your home folder you have a folder named ".wine" [03:23] now you mentioned that you were using ubuntu . are you using kde? [03:23] I have installed 12.04 outa the box... [03:23] ubuntu or kubuntu ? [03:23] ubuntu. [03:24] am I in the wrong channel? [03:24] ok this channel is for kubuntu it has a different interface and different programs. [03:24] i can still hlep you [03:24] Oh cool. Thank you. [03:24] you need to open your file browser (natualis ) [03:25] and look for the option to show hidden files you will see a lot of them look for .wine and open it up [03:26] in your .wine folder there will be a folder named "drive_c" that is your virtual C drive. [03:27] found it. [03:28] exelent... [03:28] you should be able to make a shortcut to it in the panel on the left. i just don't know how since i use a diffrent file browser [03:29] Ok. [03:30] there is a #ubuntu where someone would be able to help you with that if you can't figure it out. [03:30] Thank you for all your help! [03:30] your welcome [03:31] steam should be coming to linux soon so there will be a native client. [03:32] I have heard that... [03:32] I'm looking forward to it! [03:32] im sure as a steam user it will work better then thru wine. [03:34] * im sure it will work better then steam thru wine [03:44] Hi, super noob here. How does one change chat place? [03:44] what is chat place? [03:45] like, you know, switch between topics [03:46] Like, I imagine that Kubuntu isn't the only thing people talk about on here [03:46] oh in quassel. you right click on the server in the all chats part and select join channel [03:46] Ah yes, I see. Thanks! [03:47] when you use show all channels you have to click the show channels button to see all [03:47] a bunch of bugs was fixed the last days and I dont see any kubuntu update what's happening? [03:48] bugs for what? [03:48] kwin and dolphin bugs [03:48] from kde 4.9 [03:49] do you have backports enabled? [03:49] sithlord48, yes [03:49] I do [03:49] etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list [03:50] then perhaps they are not built yet. it is also possible if they were kde bugs that they will be part of kde 4.9.1 [03:50] ok [03:51] i think there might be a testing place thats used before it hits backports also. [03:55] there is a kwin bug that certain themes doesn't work properly, you need hold the window for some seconds before start to move it [03:56] taht was fixed? [03:56] yes [03:58] sithlord48, http://i.imgur.com/hgXb1.jpg dolphin panel at left doesnt resize the icons [03:58] sithlord48, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304249 [03:58] KDE bug 304249 in aurorae "Long delay when moving window through title bar" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [03:58] i hadn't noticed that since i keep those usually small [03:58] can't use aurorae themes [03:59] Status: RESOLVED FIXED [03:59] sithlord48 [03:59] im using aurorae now [03:59] I fixed the issue:) [03:59] i don't have any delay when moving [03:59] thank you for helping this newby along his quest! [03:59] very good lifbrngr [04:00] your welcome. [04:00] sithlord48, oh sorry this was fixed [04:00] I did some updates and I didn't check aurorae bug was fixed [04:01] uhhhh not yet [04:01] not fixed [04:01] first try it moved normal [04:01] but now still lag [04:03] odd that i don't have this problem [04:04] I move .kde kdeold and I did test with the new conf and still had the same problem [04:05] also dolphin is more slow takes two seconds to open [04:06] it does seam to take longer to open [04:07] 4.8 was perfect [04:08] you can remove 4.9 [04:08] how? [04:08] I wish back to 4.8 [04:08] are you good w/ the CLi? [04:08] yes [04:09] you first have to run ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [04:09] with sudo of course. [04:09] you might not want to do this with out wifi [04:09] with out a wire* [04:10] ok [04:11] the purge might remove some of the desktop stuff you might have to do some update/upgrade or dist-upgrade after this [04:11] worst case you should reinstall "kubuntu-desktop" package that shoudl cover about all the base kde stuff. [04:11] sithlord48, thank you, I will do this tomorrow then, just purge the ppa and dist-upgrade? [04:12] taht should do it. [04:38] i need conect me to irc hispano, some body helo me [04:38] help* [04:40] !es [04:40] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [04:43] hello everyone... Can anyone point me where i can solve my Bluetooth Adaptor not found/configured issues. my google skills are not working well today :) [04:43] running the latest kubuntu 12.04 === gani_ is now known as gani === gani_ is now known as gani [05:42] Is it worth it to do a full update from 12.04? [05:43] I like cutting-edge stuff, but what would be different if I did update? What would actually change? Is there a changelog somewhere for these things? === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [08:45] Hey there, can someone help me out regarding "Widgets" [08:52] !ask | spike_ [08:52] spike_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [09:03] sorry last night everyone ignored me so was first checking if someone would atleast respond this time.... The "Memory Status Widget" comes up blank everytime i restart my pc, i need to close and readd the widget everytime. === spike_ is now known as spikeza === tm is now known as Guest52622 === ruben is now known as Guest39483 [10:09] !netsplit [10:09] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === gani_ is now known as gani === gani_ is now known as gani === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === DFrostedWang is now known as SeymourAsses === SeymourAsses is now known as DFrostedWang === moji is now known as moji_ === moji_ is now known as moji === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [13:44] why when i want to convert a ogg file to mp3 in soundkonverter its fail?! Does anyone know? [13:56] Hiyas all [13:56] Hey BluesKaj :-) [13:57] Hey OerHeks [13:57] BluesKaj: Sup [14:11] Hey guys. I'm having issues with mediatomb. Whenever I restart my computer, the mediatomb database is empty. Anyone have this problem and/or could suggest an alternative DLNA to use with ubuntu? [14:11] Goonbee: XBMC [14:12] No, I'm trying to have my computer host videos to watch off a PS3 [14:12] Yeah [14:12] XBMC [14:12] xbmc is a viewer, no? [14:12] Both [14:12] It lets you view stuff and host stuff [14:13] I am using it now to host my pr0n [14:13] doesnt it take up a lot of resources? [14:13] Not really [14:13] XBMC tries to take over your pc ...it's ok but there are too many menus to jump thru to find what you want [14:13] I like mediatomb because its pretty much hidden, almost no resources [14:13] it works, when it works [14:14] BluesKaj: That is a valid argument, but once it's setup, it works great [14:14] but all of a sudden ,i restart my computer and everytime, my database goes to shit [14:14] i have to rescan [14:14] And I have XBMC playing now and streaming with not even 1% memory being used. [14:14] ~10% CPU [14:14] thats huge [14:14] mediatomb takes up nothing [14:14] 2GB RAM and a dual-core 2GHz CPU [14:15] Goonbee, so the PS3 sees the linux share , interesting [14:16] the ps3 sees the linux mediatomb DLNA [14:17] how do i see if i have multiple instances of mediatomb running? [14:18] brb [14:18] Goonbee: I use htop [14:21] * DFrostedWang is shutting down === rottingdead is now known as rmrottingdead [14:41] hi [14:41] say... who is the white house's representative to Congress? [14:42] (in America) [14:42] vice president? [14:42] Roey: Not sure.. [14:42] ot! [14:42] !ot [14:42] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [14:42] Roey: Probaly whoever Obama's Vice President is. [14:42] I was trying to find a proper channel, heh [14:42] Roey: Aaaaah. [14:43] oh interesting.. vp is pres. of congress? [14:43] I think I have read that [14:43] Roey: I know Hilary Clinton is Secretary of State, no? [14:43] VP is Pres of Senate only. [14:43] Roey: I have no idea, heheheh. [14:43] anyway I was politely asked to move the discussion elsewhere [14:43] er [14:43] what's the point of being pres of senate only [14:43] i don't really care. ot happened to me once.. so I thought id pass it along.. [14:44] oh, ok [14:44] thanks [14:44] Speaker rules the House. [14:44] I also don't see the harm of idle chatter if no questions are presented and not overlooked.. but Op's are hardcases, sometimes. [14:44] we'll say we're talking about the latest proposed Kubuntu governance model. [14:45] it's not real.. wouldn't get very far in here. [14:45] hehe [14:45] full of admins n people of that nature.. mostly no nonsense cats.. [14:46] DarthFrog: so how does Congress interface with the White House? [14:46] Roey: Don't know, sorry. I'm Canadian. :-) === shumski is now known as shumski_ [14:46] ha! [14:46] cool I was in Canada twice in the past year [14:47] DarthFrog: I went to Montreal first and then Toronto [14:47] Roey: I'm in Vancouver. [14:48] I was just thinking about visiting there [14:48] Anne-Marie is in Vancouver [14:48] one of the KDE devs [14:48] Annema [14:48] er [14:48] aseigo used to live here. [14:49] aha! [14:49] DarthFrog: I went to the kde 4 release event in california.. were you there too? [14:49] BluesKaj: o/ [14:49] Nope and this conversation should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic. [14:50] aha perfect === kubuntu is now known as lolcatz === llee_ is now known as llee === kubuntu is now known as Guest57409 === llee is now known as llee3 === llee3 is now known as llee [15:14] hello [15:14] anyone knows how to install nvidia driver on Kubuntu ? [15:15] phil_, yes [15:15] you still need help? [15:16] dougl, tell me how pls [15:16] k sec [15:17] recalling [15:17] !nvidia [15:17] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [15:17] go to the k and in the menu that pops up at the top there is a search box... search for additional drivers. [15:18] DarthFrog, thanks [15:18] Or run jockey-kde [15:18] darthanubis, not th additional divers from the menu? [15:18] Press Alt-F2, type "jockey-kde". [15:18] dougl: Would be the same thing. Different roads to the same end. [15:20] dougl, DarthFrog, thanks you two [15:21] but it told me no driver found [15:21] what to do next > [15:21] phil_: Really? That's odd. [15:21] hmmm [15:21] very odd [15:21] phil_: Not even in the section below, about inactive drivers? [15:22] DarthFrog: yes, my computer has two driver cards, one is intel and the other is nvidia [15:22] phil_: And do you have any output on the Nvidia card? [15:22] DarthFrog: I don't think so [15:23] Do you want to use both cards at the same time? [15:23] I tried to enable the nvidia driver, but the screen went to 640X480 ,that's bad [15:23] I presume the Intel one is an on-board graphics? [15:24] DarthFrog: I just want to enable the desktop effect on kubuntu [15:24] so now , it didn't [15:24] Do you want to use both cards at the same time? [15:25] DarthFrog: do you think that's possible ? [15:25] I don't know and if you answer "yes", then I'm going to bow out. Otherwise I can help you, perhaps. [15:26] DarthFrog: I just want to get the best display effect , do you have any idea on this ? [15:27] I can tell you what I'd do. Disable the on-board graphics in the BIOS. [15:28] Let the system find the Nvidia card and it will use the nouveau driver. That will give you desktop effects. Or then you can run jockey-kde and install the proprietary drivers. [15:29] DarthFrog: so kubuntu doesn't support the function which can switch between two card, does it ? [15:30] phil_: I don't know, I've never had two cards installed at the same time so I've never had to solve that problem. Maybe it can. [15:31] But I suspect that your BIOS is preferring the on-board video over the accessory card. [15:31] DarthFrog, actually the nouveau driver is quite good now , compared to previous vesrions , it's good fallback which I'm seriously considering , now that 304 driver for 12.10 is freezing the whole system lately [15:33] BluesKaj: Oh lovely. :-( And I was just considering getting an Nvidia 560 Ti to replace my Radeon 5770, which is giving me problems with the fglrx drivers. Works tickety-boo with the open-source Radeon driver, though. Just not enough performance for running Civ 5. [15:33] DarthFrog: I tried this command, "lspci | grep VGA" and get the correct info about both the cards [15:34] Does it mean something ? [15:34] BluesKaj: Do you have an AMD cpu? if so, try disabling AMD Cool 'n Quiet in the BIOS. [15:34] DarthFrog, my 12.04 install the this same pc (on a different hdd) , is very stable with the 295 nvidia driver' [15:34] phil_: Try this then: lsmod | grep nouveau [15:35] BluesKaj: Which Nvidia card do you have? [15:35] 520M [15:35] DarthFrog, yes I do have an AMD cpu , nvidia card is geforce 7600gt [15:35] DarthFrog: I get nothing from "lsmod | grep nouveau" [15:36] phil_: Can you pull the Intel card? [15:37] DarthFrog: that's a big project, i'm using a laptop.. [15:37] phil_: A laptop with two video outputs? Never heard of that before. [15:38] phil_, the intel is your onboard I assume , you'll have to disable or choose the other pci card as default [15:38] phil_: Anyway, I'm of no more help to you. [15:38] BluesKaj: He's refusing to do that. [15:38] phil_, the dual gpu laptop , optimus or something? [15:39] BluesKaj: it's a Dell XPS [15:39] BluesKaj: I was having severe video problems in Windows, the system locking up every 10 seconds or so. Disabling Cool 'n Quiet helped with that. Now it does it every 30 seconds. :-( [15:41] phil_, not enough info , but I suspect probly the dual gpu , one low demand chip which then switches to a second higher capability chip when the load requires it [15:41] BluesKaj: yes ,you got it [15:42] BluesKaj: can I get it work the same way on Kubuntu ? [15:46] phil_, I've heard bumblebee helps , but I'm not sure whether it uses both gpus [15:47] !bumblebee | phil_ [15:47] http://bumblebee-project.org/ [15:47] !info bumblebee | phil_ [15:47] phil_: Package bumblebee does not exist in precise [15:47] hmm [15:48] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable [15:48] sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia [15:48] From the project page. [15:48] DarthFrog: I will have a look on this [15:50] DarthFrog, that's odd , never saw that site before , must be new since the new driver devel [15:50] anyway looks like a good thing for dual gpu users on linux [15:51] BluesKaj: I'd never heard of bumblebee before you just mentioning it. That's what Google search gave me. === ruben is now known as Guest47750 === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [16:07] BluesKaj: bumblebee rocks! [16:07] It seems that my problem is fixed [16:07] phil_, cool , glad to hear it :) [16:08] thanks BluesKaj === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [16:09] phil_, np , DarthFrog pointed you in the right direction as well [16:09] DarthFrog: thanks very much for your help [16:16] You're welcome. === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [16:27] Hey when i try and connect to my VPN in network connections, nothing happens. If there's an error how can i see the logs? [16:36] okay, here...thankś === pb is now known as pb|away [16:59] My printer still does not work and cups is broken... printer down time = 9 days and counting :) [17:07] might have to reinstall kubuntu 12.04 just to fix broken cups - any suggestion before I do something drastic? [17:07] dougl, Nope [17:08] dougl, But that prolly isn't necessary [17:08] dougl, I bet a reinstall of cups would fix it. [17:08] damn - I was hoping for somethign more positive... [17:09] DFrostedWang, I'll take that bet and a bit of moral support if you are offering - lol [17:09] Sure thing [17:09] DFrostedWang, lets chat a bit... what do you suggest? [17:09] I suggest simply reinstalling cups [17:10] DFrostedWang, I am currently doing a dist-upgrade in console and the cups updates in there have hung the process [17:11] your thots? [17:11] huh... [17:11] exit that terminal and do it again [17:11] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing [17:13] DFrostedWang, k - gotcha... giving it a try but last time I was at this message was thru a cups apt-get reinstall process and would not ctrl+c out, but like I said I am trying... [17:14] DFrostedWang, ok - I am not trying to be needy (or useless) I just want you to have complete control and and enjoy our experience (frustration) - lol [17:15] TWSS [17:15] DFrostedWang, what do you suggest for quitting the current process [17:15] TWSS = ? [17:15] That's what she said [17:16] LOL [17:16] ps aux | grep apt [17:16] Find the pid and then: kill (pid) [17:19] DFrostedWang, there were some kernel updates in this process that did not finnish - will that break my box? [17:19] IDK [17:19] I am a n00b [17:19] But prolly not [17:19] They prolly weren't applied yet [17:19] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing [17:20] DFrostedWang, LOL - you are a noob? [17:21] Yeah [17:23] DFrostedWang, Family setting here... all computers/game cosoles in the same room... whole family veg's together. [17:23] dougl, what about a family setting? [17:23] DFrostedWang, No XXX allowed here :) [17:24] I didn't say anything about XXX [17:24] Oh - sorry my mistake I got a message and did not realize where it was from. [17:42] DFrostedWang, box crashed [17:42] It happens [17:42] trying to get x now [17:42] Join my channel again [17:43] channel =? [17:43] You don't remember? === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [18:37] Is there a bug in updating some packages like kdepim-groupware? Does it need to be repackaged? It requires libkdepim4 4.7 but 4.8 is going to be installed. [18:38] by "repackaged" I mean "under development" [18:43] * handheldCar hopes everyone is having a nice Saturday. It's nice & stormy here. [18:43] handheldCar, good for putering when storms [18:43] if you have UPS [18:44] ;) [18:46] select and install software failed on my 12.04 installl attempt trying again [18:47] kdepim-groupware is actually a ubuntu package, so maybe I should ask them. [18:48] but it might need ppa upgrade. (hides) [18:53] damn - I think I backed up cups conf instead of apcupsd conf [18:53] theres and afternoon pissed down the drain trying to config apcupsd [18:55] handheldCar: could you give me some more details? [18:55] I could look into it [18:55] err - nope, I remember seeing battery something in the dir I saved [18:55] sure, just a minute [19:04] ok, sorry so long: http://kete.ninth.su/kubuntu.txt [19:04] (taking so long) [19:05] * handheldCar has kubuntu backports ppa [19:07] and a ubuntu derivative, so don't rack your brain over something that doesn't make sense [19:08] * shadeslayer is looking [19:08] wait, oneiric? ouch [19:08] * shadeslayer looks anyway [19:09] grub fail to install on sda trying sdb [19:10] how do you install on hdb? [19:10] handheldCar: which derivative is this? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:11] handheldCar: plus, don't have enough info to debug :( [19:12] * shadeslayer is not sure we have KDE 4.8.1 for oneiric [19:12] * shadeslayer checks [19:13] ah, it's in backports, fine :) [19:14] This is triskel/trisquel. I haven't used kubuntu or its ppa's much, so I could be using the wrong version (oneiric). [19:14] handheldCar: can you try installing kdepim-kresources if that's available? [19:15] ok [19:15] apparently kdepim-groupware is no more [19:17] I get the same kind of problem. [19:17] needs a slightly earlier version of a package that's installed [19:17] libkdepim4 4:4.8.4a-0ubuntu0.3 depends on libkcal4 (>= 4:4.8.1), which doesn't make sense to me [19:18] handheldCar: do you have updates enabled? [19:19] I don't know. It's almost a fresh installation. Security updates aren't automatic. [19:20] dunno, something is very wrong with the way triskel/trisquel build their distro then [19:21] or, as I've found it to be, most kubuntu derivatives do it the wrong way [19:21] handheldCar: use stock kubuntu :P [19:21] :) [19:22] that entire thing seems so messed up really [19:22] I might ask them about it then. I appreciate your help [19:22] half the shit wants 4.8.2 but has 4.8.4 installed [19:22] the other half wants 4.8.4 but has 4.8.2 installed [19:23] handheldCar: cool [19:23] how do I make it so root can loginto kde? [19:23] feel free to report a bug if it's something at our end [19:23] doug__: that's not advised [19:23] doug__: if you want to run a gui app with elevated privilleges, use kdesudo [19:23] !kdesudo [19:23] In KDE use « kdesudo » to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why. [19:27] shadeslayer, there ya go - that'll do it... thanks for the advice :) [19:28] :) [19:28] doug__: just don't run plasma with kdesudo :P [19:35] shadeslayer, wat wood that due [19:36] huh? [19:36] running plasma with kdesudo [19:37] yeah, don't do that :P [19:39] It would open plasma desktop with virus as a wallpaper :P [19:43] how do i restart my nic after changing from dhcp to static? [19:45] doug__: just do a sudo service networking restart ? [19:47] shadeslayer, thanks [19:47] no [19:47] np [20:02] how do you configure autologin [20:05] doug__: did you check system settings->login screen? [20:06] I'm runnig the Live daily-build Kubuntu DVD. I want to run the live version, not install. Where is this "boot prompt"? How to I "enter live"? [20:07] sonic|2, just looked there - I dont see where to config autologin... am I missing something? [20:07] the last tab in there [20:08] should be convenience [20:10] sonic|2, yes, thank you :) [20:10] glad to help [20:11] * dougl gonna reboot brand spankin new 12.04... brb [20:11] anyone out there use this Live Kubuntu CD/DVD? [20:22] where do I find how to start apcupsd automaitically? [20:23] * dougl is excited 12.04 complete install config in less than 3 hrs - thanks for the help ladies and gents. [20:23] I used unetbootin to put Kubuntu ISO on a flash drive. Maybe this prevents a "boot prompt" from coming up? Maybe that's why I'm forced into an install ... rather than getting a chance to request live. [20:25] ok, maybe I need to use usb-creator instead of unetbootin [20:25] i cannot login in full plasma desktop only in false mode ,why ? [20:31] Guy, I am wondering how can I switch the spellcheking globally (Need to altern fast between french and english, Not only in Libre office, but every application, including firefox, I live in a billingual region.) Only spell checking and dictionary, not the system language [20:34] alex20032, check this out > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/global-spell-check [20:34] i cannot login in full plasma desktop only in false mode ,why ? [20:36] InspectorCluseau: what does it mean? Its a blueprint... [20:36] Does it mean that this feature dont exist yet? [20:37] My bad ... I thiught it was an app [20:39] alex20032: false mode? [20:40] what is false mode? [20:40] alex20032, Have you looked at aspell? [20:41] I am not currently on my Linux os [20:42] shadeslayer: "False mode" was aquitel's question not alex20032 [20:42] what does aspell? [20:43] ah yes [20:43] sorry about that [20:43] clearly a indication that I should head to bed [20:43] alex20032:aspell is a pretty decent spelling tool. I use in emacs. [20:43] But I need to change language for firefox and libreoffice [20:43] Dont want to write in emac, then copy and past in my browser... [20:44] login option [20:44] Login option = system language, not spell checking [20:45] alex20032:aspell might work in that too ... don't know [20:45] And it also mean I have to log off and log in [20:45] aguitel: just installed 12.04 here and was having problems with desktop until I unchecked the "blur" toggle and installed recommended video drivers via Additional Drivers.....might want to check those out for starters [20:46] snagglepuss, where is this "blur" ? [20:47] aguitel: menu > system settings > desktop effects [20:48] snagglepuss, i disable desktop effects [20:48] alex20032, Looks like there is no global spell checker yet [20:49] So I have to go in the set up of every program to switch language? [20:51] hmm .. would someone like to test a new virtuoso on precise? [20:51] we need more QA people clearly :( [20:59] alex20032, Firefox has some interesting addons for switching and spell checking of languages [21:01] alex20032, Firefox > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imtranslator/?src=cb-dl-mostpopular [21:01] hi [21:02] There is support for Portuguese of Brazil? [21:06] There is the official desktop kernel on kubuntu? === ubuntu is now known as Guest41183 [21:18] ok, have Live Kubuntu working now ... must use usb-creator, not unetbootin [21:20] how do I log back into Live Kubuntu? [21:20] I just rebooted the flash drive ... but it retains previous state ... so I'm _still_ logged out [21:21] roadfish: what do you mean logged out? [21:23] there is a log out button when using the Live Kubuntu [21:23] I am not in the kubuntu log in window [21:24] I am _now_ in the kubuntu log in window [21:24] but I don't know what the user/password is [21:24] if you are using a live usb boot, there shouldnt be a user login [21:24] I tried kubuntu and ubuntu for user ... but don't know what password to use [21:24] you mean the root password? [21:24] I wasn't originally at a user login [21:25] but then I logged out and now I'm presented with a login prompt [21:25] have you tried just pressing enter? [21:25] I probably don't want the root password ... and I don't think there is a root password unless you do "sudo passwd" [21:26] when I press enter in the user field, then I hop into the password field. I press enter again and then both blank fields turn pink for 1 second. Then I'm back in the user field. [21:28] try kubuntu as user [21:28] sonic|2: ok, that's the trick [21:28] yes, kubuntu as user and blank password [21:28] yea, there shouldnt be any password [21:29] in fact, the kubuntu was filled in automatically after I let the login prompt sit for 10 seconds or so [21:29] thank you [21:29] you're welcome [21:29] drat! no, Kubuntu immediately logged me out again. [21:30] how? [21:30] well, when I enter a bad user/password then the login fields just turns pink for a second ... [21:31] but when I enter "kubuntu"/"" user/password then Kubuntu looks like it is logging me in ... [21:31] I get some window flast up for a second and something semes to be happening [21:32] but then the window disappears and I return to the login prompt again [21:32] BTW, I am running a daily build from 4 days ago ... possibly this might be a bug? [21:33] ok, things are working again ... I had to do something ... [21:33] maybe something to do with screensaver? [21:33] on the bottom left of the login prompt, I can switch between default/plasma/etc [21:34] but none of the checklist buttons were selected [21:34] however, once I selected one of these checklist buttons, then the login completes. [21:35] so I guess this is a mini-bug ... probably one of the checklist buttons should be selected ahead of time by KDE [22:11] I find it strange that its libre office that come with Kubuntu [22:12] what do you suppose would make a printout do this http://imagebin.org/224201 [22:59] I find it strange that its libre office that come with Kubuntu [22:59] Was sure it would be either Calligra suite or Koffice [23:00] You can download koffice, i think. But it ships as you rightly say, with LibreOffice - it used to be OpenOffice I believe [23:00] !info koffice precise [23:00] Package koffice does not exist in precise [23:02] From what I read here: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=92116.0 [23:02] Koffice is discountinuated [23:02] 0.0 [23:02] So better to install Calligra, but I know I can install it myself [23:02] But I just wonder why Kubuntu don't offer a full KDE environment [23:03] Also, with the Muon software manager, I find it hard to install thing [23:03] Everytime [23:03] I search for a library, cant find it [23:04] there are other managers, asgard20032 - you could try apper for example [23:04] For example, libSDL [23:04] apper is MUCH easier to use than muon [23:04] And apper work well under ubuntu? [23:05] kubuntu [23:05] yes [23:05] it is based off of kpackagekit, which is what kubuntu used to ship with up until 11.10 [23:06] Ok I just searched Apper in muon [23:06] 4 result [23:06] Apper updates, Apper Settings, Apper Installer and Apper [23:06] If I select Apper, does it install everything? [23:47] So how should I install Apper? [23:47] Ok I just searched Apper in muon 4 result" [23:47] Apper updates, Apper Settings, Apper Installer and Apper. Which one should I install? [23:52] asgard20032, don't try to install it through muon [23:53] do it like this: press alt and f2, type konsole and hit enter. [23:53] when you get a terminal open, simply type: apt-get install apper and your system will do the rest [23:53] i would never install anything through muon, it's not reliable imo [23:54] Once its installed, how should I replace the Muon icon in K menu, computer? (a place where there is only 3 option: System setting, Muon, Run command [23:55] asgard20032, which menu do you have? the application launcher menu, or the classic K menu? [23:55] I dont know [23:55] The default menu from Kubuntu [23:55] if you right click the K button, it should say Switch to Classic Menu [23:56] click that, and you will get the full, proper K Menu- the one with all your programs in. [23:56] Apper will be listed under the System menu [23:57] If i right click K button [23:57] Edit application [23:57] Application luncher setting [23:57] Unlock widget [23:57] Thats all === d is now known as Guest59356 [23:58] Click Unlock Widgets first [23:58] I don't think you can change the widget type while widgets are locked [23:58] Ok, but thats not that [23:58] I want for the default one [23:58] Not the classic menu [23:58] If you click K, go to computer [23:58] asgard20032, in KDE, the classic menu should normally be the default. === Guest59356 is now known as card [23:59] No, it is luncher menu for me [23:59] The default one [23:59] We have it as the Application launcher menu, I don't know why. It always used to be the Classic menu [23:59] Anyway, I am talking about K -> Computer Tab [23:59] Right, ok. Well I don't use that menu, I use the classic - so I can see all the programs and groups in one go. [23:59] How to replace the muon shortcut by the apper one?