[00:12] <aguitel> is possible to install kde and mate with no conflict ?
[00:13] <BluesKaj> aguitel, mate with ?
[00:18] <aguitel> BluesKaj, mate de
[00:20] <BluesKaj> aguitel,  kde is a de . it doesn't mate with itself
[00:20] <BluesKaj> no need
[00:22] <BluesKaj> if I misunderstood , then pls explain further , aguitel
[00:42] <artao> hai. ... hoping someone here can help me get this printer working. =] ... Kubuntu 12.04; Dell Photo Printer 720 .. ... the system recognized it, but I'm not sure it installed properly
[01:44] <artao> AHA!! I haz solved it. ... it is ACTUALLY a Lexmark Z600, and one must download the appropriate drivers as such
[01:58] <Panik> I need help with Banshee on Kubuntu, it keeps stalling, or half crashing just after boot.  How can I troubleshoot?
[02:16] <sithlord48> panik run it from konsole you will get some info back .
[02:46] <Brustofski-Fan> I type bespin in to package manger and get nothing... I thought that was a common package for kde
[02:46] <sithlord48> i think the package is kwin-style-bespin
[02:47] <Brustofski-Fan> still bespin should pull it up
[02:47] <sithlord48> it should
[02:47] <Brustofski-Fan> nothing
[02:47] <sithlord48> it could also be removed
[03:17] <lifbrngr> Hello?
[03:18] <sithlord48> hi
[03:18] <lifbrngr> I am new to ubuntu and would like some assistance
[03:19] <sithlord48> ok idk if i can help you but what do you need help with?
[03:19] <lifbrngr> well... your going to laugh... but
[03:20] <lifbrngr> I'm trying to link my steam files from my windows partion to the steam I have installed thru wine.
[03:20] <sithlord48> ok
[03:20] <lifbrngr> it says there is a way but I cant even find my main steam files on the ubuntu
[03:21] <sithlord48> i understand. thats because its hidden.
[03:22] <lifbrngr> Could you please walk me thru how to find them..
[03:22] <sithlord48> now on linux and unix any file that stats with a . will be hidden (just something to remember) in your home folder you have a folder named ".wine"
[03:23] <sithlord48> now you mentioned that you were using ubuntu . are you using kde?
[03:23] <lifbrngr> I have installed 12.04 outa the box...
[03:23] <sithlord48> ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[03:23] <lifbrngr> ubuntu.
[03:24] <lifbrngr> am I in the wrong channel?
[03:24] <sithlord48> ok this channel is for kubuntu it has a different interface and different programs.
[03:24] <sithlord48> i can still hlep you
[03:24] <lifbrngr> Oh cool. Thank you.
[03:24] <sithlord48> you need to open your file browser (natualis )
[03:25] <sithlord48> and look for the option to show hidden files you will see a lot of them look for .wine and open it up
[03:26] <sithlord48> in your .wine folder there will be a folder named "drive_c" that is your virtual C drive.
[03:27] <lifbrngr> found it.
[03:28] <lifbrngr> exelent...
[03:28] <sithlord48> you should be able to make a shortcut to it in the panel on the left. i just don't know how since i use a diffrent file browser
[03:29] <lifbrngr> Ok.
[03:30] <sithlord48> there is a #ubuntu where someone would be able to help you with that if you can't figure it out.
[03:30] <lifbrngr> Thank you for all your help!
[03:30] <sithlord48> your welcome
[03:31] <sithlord48> steam should be coming to linux soon so there will be a native client.
[03:32] <lifbrngr> I have heard that...
[03:32] <lifbrngr> I'm looking forward to it!
[03:32] <sithlord48> im sure as a steam user it will work better then thru wine.
[03:34] <sithlord48> * im sure it will work better then steam thru wine
[03:44] <jon__> Hi, super noob here. How does one change chat place?
[03:44] <sithlord48> what is chat place?
[03:45] <jon__> like, you know, switch between topics
[03:46] <jon__> Like, I imagine that Kubuntu isn't the only thing people talk about on here
[03:46] <sithlord48> oh in quassel. you right click on the server in the all chats part and select join channel
[03:46] <jon__> Ah yes, I see. Thanks!
[03:47] <sithlord48> when you use show all channels you have to click the show channels button to see all
[03:47] <killown> a bunch of bugs was fixed the last days and I dont see any kubuntu update what's  happening?
[03:48] <sithlord48> bugs for what?
[03:48] <killown> kwin and dolphin bugs
[03:48] <killown> from kde 4.9
[03:49] <sithlord48> do you have backports enabled?
[03:49] <killown> sithlord48, yes
[03:49] <killown> I do
[03:49] <killown> etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list
[03:50] <sithlord48> then perhaps they are not built yet. it is also possible if they were kde bugs that they will be part of kde 4.9.1
[03:50] <killown> ok
[03:51] <sithlord48> i think there might be a testing place thats used before it hits backports also.
[03:55] <killown> there is a kwin bug that certain themes doesn't work properly, you need hold the window for some seconds before start to move it
[03:56] <sithlord48> taht was fixed?
[03:56] <killown> yes
[03:58] <killown> sithlord48, http://i.imgur.com/hgXb1.jpg dolphin panel at left doesnt resize the icons
[03:58] <killown> sithlord48, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304249
[03:58] <sithlord48> i hadn't noticed that since i keep those usually small
[03:58] <killown> can't use aurorae themes
[03:59] <killown> Status:	RESOLVED FIXED
[03:59] <lifbrngr> sithlord48
[03:59] <sithlord48> im using aurorae now
[03:59] <lifbrngr> I fixed the issue:)
[03:59] <sithlord48> i don't have any delay when moving
[03:59] <lifbrngr> thank you for helping this newby along his quest!
[03:59] <sithlord48> very good lifbrngr
[04:00] <sithlord48> your welcome.
[04:00] <killown> sithlord48, oh sorry this was fixed
[04:00] <killown> I did some updates and I didn't check aurorae bug was fixed
[04:01] <killown> uhhhh not yet
[04:01] <killown> not fixed
[04:01] <killown> first try it moved normal
[04:01] <killown> but now still lag
[04:03] <sithlord48> odd that i don't have this problem
[04:04] <killown> I move .kde kdeold and I did test with the new conf and still had the same problem
[04:05] <killown> also dolphin is more slow takes two seconds to open
[04:06] <sithlord48> it does seam to take longer to open
[04:07] <killown> 4.8 was perfect
[04:08] <sithlord48> you can remove 4.9
[04:08] <killown> how?
[04:08] <killown> I wish back to 4.8
[04:08] <sithlord48> are you good w/ the CLi?
[04:08] <killown> yes
[04:09] <sithlord48> you first have to run ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[04:09] <sithlord48> with sudo of course.
[04:09] <sithlord48> you might not want to do this with out wifi
[04:09] <sithlord48> with out a wire*
[04:10] <killown> ok
[04:11] <sithlord48> the purge might remove some of the desktop stuff you  might have to do some update/upgrade or dist-upgrade after this
[04:11] <sithlord48> worst case you should reinstall "kubuntu-desktop" package that shoudl cover about all the base kde stuff.
[04:11] <killown> sithlord48, thank you, I will do this tomorrow then, just purge the ppa and dist-upgrade?
[04:12] <sithlord48> taht should do it.
[04:38] <ateo-busca-tride> i need conect me to irc hispano, some body helo me
[04:38] <ateo-busca-tride> help*
[04:40] <OerHeks> !es
[04:43] <ravindra> hello everyone... Can anyone point me where i can solve my Bluetooth Adaptor not found/configured issues. my google skills are not working well today :)
[04:43] <ravindra> running the latest kubuntu 12.04
[05:42] <DFrostedWang> Is it worth it to do a full update from 12.04?
[05:43] <DFrostedWang> I like cutting-edge stuff, but what would be different if I did update? What would actually change? Is there a changelog somewhere for these things?
[08:45] <spike_> Hey there, can someone help me out regarding "Widgets"
[08:52] <Graf_Westerholt> !ask | spike_
[09:03] <spike_> sorry last night everyone ignored me so was first checking if someone would atleast respond this time.... The "Memory Status Widget" comes up blank everytime i restart my pc, i need to close and readd the widget everytime.
[10:09] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:44] <seipro> why when i want to convert a ogg file to mp3 in soundkonverter its fail?! Does anyone know?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:56] <OerHeks> Hey BluesKaj :-)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Hey OerHeks
[13:57] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: Sup
[14:11] <Goonbee> Hey guys. I'm having issues with mediatomb. Whenever I restart my computer, the mediatomb database is empty. Anyone have this problem and/or could suggest an alternative DLNA to use with ubuntu?
[14:11] <DFrostedWang> Goonbee: XBMC
[14:12] <Goonbee> No, I'm trying to have my computer host videos to watch off a PS3
[14:12] <DFrostedWang> Yeah
[14:12] <DFrostedWang> XBMC
[14:12] <Goonbee> xbmc is a viewer, no?
[14:12] <DFrostedWang> Both
[14:12] <DFrostedWang> It lets you view stuff and host stuff
[14:13] <DFrostedWang> I am using it now to host my pr0n
[14:13] <Goonbee> doesnt it take up a lot of resources?
[14:13] <DFrostedWang> Not really
[14:13] <BluesKaj> XBMC tries to take over your pc ...it's ok but there are too many menus to jump thru to find what you want
[14:13] <Goonbee> I like mediatomb because its pretty much hidden, almost no resources
[14:13] <Goonbee> it works, when it works
[14:14] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: That is a valid argument, but once it's setup, it works great
[14:14] <Goonbee> but all of a sudden ,i restart my computer and everytime, my database goes to shit
[14:14] <Goonbee> i have to rescan
[14:14] <DFrostedWang> And I have XBMC playing now and streaming with not even 1% memory being used.
[14:14] <DFrostedWang> ~10% CPU
[14:14] <Goonbee> thats huge
[14:14] <Goonbee> mediatomb takes up nothing
[14:14] <DFrostedWang> 2GB RAM and a dual-core 2GHz CPU
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Goonbee, so the PS3 sees the linux share , interesting
[14:16] <Goonbee> the ps3 sees the linux mediatomb DLNA
[14:17] <Goonbee> how do i see if i have multiple instances of mediatomb running?
[14:18] <Goonbee> brb
[14:18] <DFrostedWang> Goonbee: I use htop
[14:21]  * DFrostedWang is shutting down
[14:41] <Roey> hi
[14:41] <Roey> say... who is the white house's representative to Congress?
[14:42] <Roey> (in America)
[14:42] <pb> vice president?
[14:42] <rmrottingdead> Roey: Not sure..
[14:42] <pb> ot!
[14:42] <pb> !ot
[14:42] <rmrottingdead> Roey: Probaly whoever Obama's Vice President is.
[14:42] <Roey> I was trying to find a proper channel, heh
[14:42] <rmrottingdead> Roey: Aaaaah.
[14:43] <Roey> oh interesting.. vp is pres. of congress?
[14:43] <Roey> I think I have read that
[14:43] <rmrottingdead> Roey: I know Hilary Clinton is Secretary of State, no?
[14:43] <DarthFrog> VP is Pres of Senate only.
[14:43] <rmrottingdead> Roey: I have no idea, heheheh.
[14:43] <Roey> anyway I was politely asked to move the discussion elsewhere
[14:43] <Roey> er
[14:43] <Roey> what's the point of being pres of senate only
[14:43] <pb> i don't really care. ot happened to me once.. so I thought id pass it along..
[14:44] <Roey> oh, ok
[14:44] <Roey> thanks
[14:44] <DarthFrog> Speaker rules the House.
[14:44] <pb> I also don't see the harm of idle chatter if no questions are presented and not overlooked.. but Op's are hardcases, sometimes.
[14:44] <Roey> we'll say we're talking about the latest proposed Kubuntu governance model.
[14:45] <pb> it's not real.. wouldn't get very far in here.
[14:45] <Roey> hehe
[14:45] <pb> full of admins n people of that nature.. mostly no nonsense cats..
[14:46] <Roey> DarthFrog:  so how does Congress interface with the White House?
[14:46] <DarthFrog> Roey: Don't know, sorry.  I'm Canadian. :-)
[14:46] <Roey> ha!
[14:46] <Roey> cool I was in Canada twice in the past year
[14:47] <Roey> DarthFrog:  I went to Montreal first and then Toronto
[14:47] <DarthFrog> Roey: I'm in Vancouver.
[14:48] <Roey> I was just thinking about visiting there
[14:48] <Roey> Anne-Marie is in Vancouver
[14:48] <Roey> one of the KDE devs
[14:48] <Roey> Annema
[14:48] <Roey> er
[14:48] <DarthFrog> aseigo used to live here.
[14:49] <Roey> aha!
[14:49] <Roey> DarthFrog:  I went to the kde 4 release event in california.. were you there too?
[14:49] <Roey> BluesKaj:  o/
[14:49] <DarthFrog> Nope and this conversation should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[14:50] <Roey> aha perfect
[15:14] <phil_> hello
[15:14] <phil_> anyone knows how to install nvidia driver on Kubuntu ?
[15:15] <dougl> phil_, yes
[15:15] <dougl> you still need help?
[15:16] <phil_> dougl, tell me how pls
[15:16] <dougl> k sec
[15:17] <dougl> recalling
[15:17] <DarthFrog> !nvidia
[15:17] <dougl> go to the k and in the menu that pops up at the top there is a search box... search for additional drivers.
[15:18] <dougl> DarthFrog, thanks
[15:18] <DarthFrog> Or run jockey-kde
[15:18] <dougl> darthanubis, not th additional divers from the menu?
[15:18] <DarthFrog> Press Alt-F2, type "jockey-kde".
[15:18] <DarthFrog> dougl: Would be the same thing.  Different roads to the same end.
[15:20] <phil_> dougl, DarthFrog, thanks you two
[15:21] <phil_> but it told me no driver found
[15:21] <phil_> what to do next >
[15:21] <DarthFrog> phil_: Really?  That's odd.
[15:21] <dougl> hmmm
[15:21] <dougl> very odd
[15:21] <DarthFrog> phil_:  Not even in the section below, about inactive drivers?
[15:22] <phil_> DarthFrog: yes, my computer has two driver cards, one is intel and the other is nvidia
[15:22] <DarthFrog> phil_:  And do you have any output on the Nvidia card?
[15:22] <phil_> DarthFrog: I don't think so
[15:23] <DarthFrog> Do you want to use both cards at the same time?
[15:23] <phil_> I  tried to enable the nvidia driver, but the screen went to 640X480 ,that's bad
[15:23] <DarthFrog> I presume the Intel one is an on-board graphics?
[15:24] <phil_> DarthFrog: I just want to enable the desktop effect on kubuntu
[15:24] <phil_> so now , it didn't
[15:24] <DarthFrog> Do you want to use both cards at the same time?
[15:25] <phil_> DarthFrog: do you think that's possible ?
[15:25] <DarthFrog> I don't know and if you answer "yes", then I'm going to bow out.  Otherwise I can help you, perhaps.
[15:26] <phil_> DarthFrog: I just want to get the best display effect , do you have any idea on this ?
[15:27] <DarthFrog> I can tell you what I'd do.   Disable the on-board graphics in the BIOS.
[15:28] <DarthFrog> Let the system find the Nvidia card and it will use the nouveau driver.  That will give you desktop effects.  Or then you can run jockey-kde and install the proprietary drivers.
[15:29] <phil_> DarthFrog: so kubuntu doesn't support the function which can switch between two card, does it ?
[15:30] <DarthFrog> phil_:  I don't know, I've never had two cards installed at the same time so I've never had to solve that problem.  Maybe it can.
[15:31] <DarthFrog> But I suspect that your BIOS is preferring the on-board video over the accessory card.
[15:31] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, actually the nouveau driver is quite good now , compared to previous vesrions , it's good fallback which I'm seriously considering , now that 304 driver for 12.10 is freezing the whole system lately
[15:33] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Oh lovely. :-(  And I was just considering getting an Nvidia 560 Ti to replace my Radeon 5770, which is giving me problems with the fglrx drivers.  Works tickety-boo with the open-source Radeon driver, though.  Just not enough performance for running Civ 5.
[15:33] <phil_> DarthFrog: I tried this command, "lspci | grep VGA" and get the correct info about both the cards
[15:34] <phil_> Does it mean something ?
[15:34] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Do you have an AMD cpu?  if so, try disabling AMD Cool 'n Quiet in the BIOS.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, my 12.04 install the this same pc (on a different hdd) , is very stable with the 295 nvidia driver'
[15:34] <DarthFrog> phil_:  Try this then: lsmod | grep nouveau
[15:35] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Which Nvidia card do you have?
[15:35] <phil_> 520M
[15:35] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, yes I do have an AMD cpu , nvidia card is geforce 7600gt
[15:35] <phil_> DarthFrog: I get nothing from "lsmod | grep nouveau"
[15:36] <DarthFrog> phil_:  Can you pull the Intel card?
[15:37] <phil_> DarthFrog: that's a big project, i'm using a laptop..
[15:37] <DarthFrog> phil_: A laptop with two video outputs?  Never heard of that before.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> phil_, the intel is your onboard I assume , you'll have to disable or choose the other pci card as default
[15:38] <DarthFrog> phil_: Anyway, I'm of no more help to you.
[15:38] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: He's refusing to do that.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> phil_, the dual gpu laptop , optimus or something?
[15:39] <phil_> BluesKaj: it's a Dell XPS
[15:39] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: I was having severe video problems in Windows, the system locking up every 10 seconds or so.  Disabling Cool 'n Quiet helped with that.  Now it does it every 30 seconds. :-(
[15:41] <BluesKaj> phil_, not enough info , but I suspect probly the dual gpu , one low demand chip which then switches to a second higher capability chip when the load requires it
[15:41] <phil_> BluesKaj: yes ,you got it
[15:42] <phil_> BluesKaj: can I get it work the same way on Kubuntu ?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> phil_, I've heard bumblebee helps , but I'm not sure whether it uses both gpus
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !bumblebee | phil_
[15:47] <DarthFrog> http://bumblebee-project.org/
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !info bumblebee | phil_
[15:47] <BluesKaj> hmm
[15:48] <DarthFrog> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[15:48] <DarthFrog> sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[15:48] <DarthFrog> From the project page.
[15:48] <phil_> DarthFrog: I will have a look on this
[15:50] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, that's odd , never saw that site before , must be new since the new driver devel
[15:50] <BluesKaj> anyway looks like a good thing for dual gpu users on linux
[15:51] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  I'd never heard of bumblebee before you just mentioning it.  That's what Google search gave me.
[16:07] <phil_> BluesKaj: bumblebee rocks!
[16:07] <phil_> It seems that my problem is fixed
[16:07] <BluesKaj> phil_, cool , glad to hear it :)
[16:08] <phil_> thanks BluesKaj
[16:09] <BluesKaj> phil_, np , DarthFrog pointed you in the right direction as well
[16:09] <phil_> DarthFrog: thanks very much for your help
[16:16] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[16:27] <xShell> Hey when i try and connect to my VPN in network connections, nothing happens. If there's an error how can i see the logs?
[16:36] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> okay, here...thankś
[16:59] <dougl> My printer still does not work and cups is broken... printer down time = 9 days and counting :)
[17:07] <dougl> might have to reinstall kubuntu 12.04 just to fix broken cups - any suggestion before I do something drastic?
[17:07] <DFrostedWang> dougl, Nope
[17:08] <DFrostedWang> dougl, But that prolly isn't necessary
[17:08] <DFrostedWang> dougl, I bet a reinstall of cups would fix it.
[17:08] <dougl> damn - I was hoping for somethign more positive...
[17:09] <dougl> DFrostedWang, I'll take that bet and a bit of moral support if you are offering - lol
[17:09] <DFrostedWang> Sure thing
[17:09] <dougl> DFrostedWang, lets chat a bit... what do you suggest?
[17:09] <DFrostedWang> I suggest simply reinstalling cups
[17:10] <dougl> DFrostedWang, I am currently doing a dist-upgrade in console and the cups updates in there have hung the process
[17:11] <dougl> your thots?
[17:11] <DFrostedWang> huh...
[17:11] <DFrostedWang> exit that terminal and do it again
[17:11] <DFrostedWang> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[17:13] <dougl> DFrostedWang, k - gotcha... giving it a try but last time I was at this message was thru a cups apt-get reinstall process and would not ctrl+c out, but like I said I am trying...
[17:14] <dougl> DFrostedWang, ok - I am not trying to be needy (or useless) I just want you to have complete control and and enjoy our experience (frustration) - lol
[17:15] <DFrostedWang> TWSS
[17:15] <dougl> DFrostedWang, what do you suggest for quitting the current process
[17:15] <dougl> TWSS = ?
[17:15] <DFrostedWang> That's what she said
[17:16] <dougl> LOL
[17:16] <DFrostedWang> ps aux | grep apt
[17:16] <DFrostedWang> Find the pid and then: kill (pid)
[17:19] <dougl> DFrostedWang, there were some kernel updates in this process that did not finnish - will that break my box?
[17:19] <DFrostedWang> IDK
[17:19] <DFrostedWang> I am a n00b
[17:19] <DFrostedWang> But prolly not
[17:19] <DFrostedWang> They prolly weren't applied yet
[17:19] <DFrostedWang> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[17:20] <dougl> DFrostedWang, LOL - you are a noob?
[17:21] <DFrostedWang> Yeah
[17:23] <dougl> DFrostedWang, Family setting here... all computers/game cosoles in the same room... whole family veg's together.
[17:23] <DFrostedWang> dougl, what about a family setting?
[17:23] <dougl> DFrostedWang, No XXX allowed here :)
[17:24] <DFrostedWang> I didn't say anything about XXX
[17:24] <dougl> Oh - sorry my mistake I got a message and did not realize where it was from.
[17:42] <doug__> DFrostedWang, box crashed
[17:42] <DFrostedWang> It happens
[17:42] <doug__> trying to get x now
[17:42] <DFrostedWang> Join my channel again
[17:43] <doug__> channel =?
[17:43] <DFrostedWang> You don't remember?
[18:37] <handheldCar> Is there a bug in updating some packages like kdepim-groupware? Does it need to be repackaged? It requires libkdepim4 4.7 but 4.8 is going to be installed.
[18:38] <handheldCar> by "repackaged" I mean "under development"
[18:43]  * handheldCar hopes everyone is having a nice Saturday. It's nice & stormy here.
[18:43] <doug__> handheldCar, good for putering when storms
[18:43] <doug__> if you have UPS
[18:44] <handheldCar> ;)
[18:46] <doug__> select and install software failed on my 12.04 installl attempt trying again
[18:47] <handheldCar> kdepim-groupware is actually a ubuntu package, so maybe I should ask them.
[18:48] <handheldCar> but it might need ppa upgrade. (hides)
[18:53] <doug__> damn - I think I backed up cups conf instead of apcupsd conf
[18:53] <doug__> theres and afternoon pissed down the drain trying to config apcupsd
[18:55] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: could you give me some more details?
[18:55] <shadeslayer> I could look into it
[18:55] <doug__> err - nope, I remember seeing battery something in the dir I saved
[18:55] <handheldCar> sure, just a minute
[19:04] <handheldCar> ok, sorry so long: http://kete.ninth.su/kubuntu.txt
[19:04] <handheldCar> (taking so long)
[19:05]  * handheldCar has kubuntu backports ppa
[19:07] <handheldCar> and a ubuntu derivative, so don't rack your brain over something that doesn't make sense
[19:08]  * shadeslayer is looking
[19:08] <shadeslayer> wait, oneiric? ouch
[19:08]  * shadeslayer looks anyway
[19:09] <doug__> grub fail to install on sda trying sdb
[19:10] <doug__> how do you install on hdb?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: which derivative is this?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: plus, don't have enough info to debug :(
[19:12]  * shadeslayer is not sure we have KDE 4.8.1 for oneiric
[19:12]  * shadeslayer checks
[19:13] <shadeslayer> ah, it's in backports, fine :)
[19:14] <handheldCar> This is triskel/trisquel. I haven't used kubuntu or its ppa's much, so I could be using the wrong version (oneiric).
[19:14] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: can you try installing kdepim-kresources if that's available?
[19:15] <handheldCar> ok
[19:15] <shadeslayer> apparently kdepim-groupware is no more
[19:17] <handheldCar> I get the same kind of problem.
[19:17] <handheldCar> needs a slightly earlier version of a package that's installed
[19:17] <shadeslayer> libkdepim4 4:4.8.4a-0ubuntu0.3 depends on  libkcal4 (>= 4:4.8.1), which doesn't make sense to me
[19:18] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: do you have updates enabled?
[19:19] <handheldCar> I don't know. It's almost a fresh installation. Security updates aren't automatic.
[19:20] <shadeslayer> dunno, something is very wrong with the way triskel/trisquel build their distro then
[19:21] <shadeslayer> or, as I've found it to be, most kubuntu derivatives do it the wrong way
[19:21] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: use stock kubuntu :P
[19:21] <handheldCar> :)
[19:22] <shadeslayer> that entire thing seems so messed up really
[19:22] <handheldCar> I might ask them about it then. I appreciate your help
[19:22] <shadeslayer> half the shit wants 4.8.2 but has 4.8.4 installed
[19:22] <shadeslayer> the other half wants 4.8.4 but has 4.8.2 installed
[19:23] <shadeslayer> handheldCar: cool
[19:23] <doug__> how do I make it so root can loginto kde?
[19:23] <shadeslayer> feel free to report a bug if it's something at our end
[19:23] <shadeslayer> doug__: that's not advised
[19:23] <shadeslayer> doug__: if you want to run a gui app with elevated privilleges, use kdesudo
[19:23] <shadeslayer> !kdesudo
[19:27] <doug__> shadeslayer, there ya go - that'll do it... thanks for the advice :)
[19:28] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:28] <shadeslayer> doug__: just don't run plasma with kdesudo :P
[19:35] <doug__> shadeslayer,  wat wood that due
[19:36] <shadeslayer> huh?
[19:36] <doug__> running plasma with kdesudo
[19:37] <shadeslayer> yeah, don't do that :P
[19:39] <shumski> It would open plasma desktop with virus as a wallpaper :P
[19:43] <doug__> how do i restart my nic after changing from dhcp to static?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> doug__: just do a sudo service networking restart ?
[19:47] <doug__> shadeslayer, thanks
[19:47] <shadeslayer> no
[19:47] <shadeslayer> np
[20:02] <doug__> how do you configure autologin
[20:05] <sonic|2> doug__: did you check system settings->login screen?
[20:06] <roadfish> I'm runnig the Live daily-build Kubuntu DVD. I want to run the live version, not install. Where is this "boot prompt"? How to I "enter live"?
[20:07] <dougl> sonic|2, just looked there - I dont see where to config autologin... am I missing something?
[20:07] <sonic|2> the last tab in there
[20:08] <sonic|2> should be convenience
[20:10] <dougl> sonic|2, yes, thank you :)
[20:10] <sonic|2> glad to help
[20:11]  * dougl gonna reboot brand spankin new 12.04... brb
[20:11] <roadfish> anyone out there use this Live Kubuntu CD/DVD?
[20:22] <dougl> where do I find how to start apcupsd automaitically?
[20:23]  * dougl is excited 12.04 complete install config in less than 3 hrs - thanks for the help ladies and gents.
[20:23] <roadfish> I used unetbootin to put Kubuntu ISO on a flash drive. Maybe this prevents a "boot prompt" from coming up? Maybe that's why I'm forced into an install ... rather than getting a chance to request live.
[20:25] <roadfish> ok, maybe I need to use usb-creator instead of unetbootin
[20:25] <aguitel> i cannot login in full plasma desktop only in false mode ,why ?
[20:31] <alex20032> Guy, I am wondering how can I switch the spellcheking globally (Need to altern fast between french and english, Not only in Libre office, but every application, including firefox, I live in a billingual region.) Only spell checking and dictionary, not the system language
[20:34] <InspectorCluseau> alex20032,  check this out > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/global-spell-check
[20:34] <aguitel> i cannot login in full plasma desktop only in false mode ,why ?
[20:36] <alex20032> InspectorCluseau:  what does it mean? Its a blueprint...
[20:36] <alex20032> Does it mean that this feature dont exist yet?
[20:37] <InspectorCluseau> My bad ... I thiught it was an app
[20:39] <shadeslayer> alex20032: false mode?
[20:40] <alex20032> what is false mode?
[20:40] <InspectorCluseau> alex20032,  Have you looked at aspell?
[20:41] <alex20032> I am not currently on my Linux os
[20:42] <snagglepuss> shadeslayer: "False mode" was aquitel's question not alex20032
[20:42] <alex20032> what does aspell?
[20:43] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[20:43] <shadeslayer> sorry about that
[20:43] <shadeslayer> clearly a indication that I should head to bed
[20:43] <roadfish> alex20032:aspell is a pretty decent spelling tool. I use in emacs.
[20:43] <alex20032> But I need to change language for firefox and libreoffice
[20:43] <alex20032> Dont want to write in emac, then copy and past in my browser...
[20:44] <aguitel> login option
[20:44] <alex20032> Login option = system language, not spell checking
[20:45] <roadfish> alex20032:aspell might work in that too ... don't know
[20:45] <alex20032> And it also mean I have to log off and log in
[20:45] <snagglepuss> aguitel:    just installed 12.04 here and was having problems with desktop until I unchecked the "blur" toggle and installed recommended video drivers via Additional Drivers.....might want to check those out for starters
[20:46] <aguitel> snagglepuss, where is this "blur" ?
[20:47] <snagglepuss> aguitel:     menu > system settings > desktop effects
[20:48] <aguitel> snagglepuss, i disable desktop effects
[20:48] <InspectorCluseau> alex20032,  Looks like there is no global spell checker yet
[20:49] <alex20032> So I have to go in the set up of every program to switch language?
[20:51] <shadeslayer> hmm .. would someone like to test a new virtuoso on precise?
[20:51] <shadeslayer> we need more QA people clearly :(
[20:59] <InspectorCluseau> alex20032,  Firefox has some interesting addons for switching and spell checking of languages
[21:01] <InspectorCluseau> alex20032,  Firefox > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imtranslator/?src=cb-dl-mostpopular
[21:01] <FraterLinux> hi
[21:02] <FraterLinux> There is support for Portuguese of Brazil?
[21:06] <FraterLinux> There is the official desktop kernel on kubuntu?
[21:18] <roadfish> ok, have Live Kubuntu working now ... must use usb-creator, not unetbootin
[21:20] <roadfish> how do I log back into Live Kubuntu?
[21:20] <roadfish> I just rebooted the flash drive ... but it retains previous state ... so I'm _still_ logged out
[21:21] <sonic|2> roadfish: what do you mean logged out?
[21:23] <roadfish> there is a log out button when using the Live Kubuntu
[21:23] <roadfish> I am not in the kubuntu log in window
[21:24] <roadfish> I am _now_ in the kubuntu log in window
[21:24] <roadfish> but I don't know what the user/password is
[21:24] <sonic|2> if you are using a live usb boot, there shouldnt be a user login
[21:24] <roadfish> I tried kubuntu and ubuntu for user ... but don't know what password to use
[21:24] <sonic|2> you mean the root password?
[21:24] <roadfish> I wasn't originally at a user login
[21:25] <roadfish> but then I logged out and now I'm presented with a login prompt
[21:25] <sonic|2> have you tried just pressing enter?
[21:25] <roadfish> I probably don't want the root password ... and I don't think there is a root password unless you do "sudo passwd"
[21:26] <roadfish> when I press enter in the user field, then I hop into the password field. I press enter again and then both blank fields turn pink for 1 second. Then I'm back in the user field.
[21:28] <sonic|2> try kubuntu as user
[21:28] <roadfish> sonic|2: ok, that's the trick
[21:28] <roadfish> yes, kubuntu as user and blank password
[21:28] <sonic|2> yea, there shouldnt be any password
[21:29] <roadfish> in fact, the kubuntu was filled in automatically after I let the login prompt sit for 10 seconds or so
[21:29] <roadfish> thank you
[21:29] <sonic|2> you're welcome
[21:29] <roadfish> drat! no, Kubuntu immediately logged me out again.
[21:30] <sonic|2> how?
[21:30] <roadfish> well, when I enter a bad user/password then the login fields just turns pink for a  second ...
[21:31] <roadfish> but when I enter "kubuntu"/"" user/password then Kubuntu looks like it is logging me in ...
[21:31] <roadfish> I get some window flast up for a second and something semes to be happening
[21:32] <roadfish> but then the window disappears and I return to the login prompt again
[21:32] <roadfish> BTW, I am running a daily build from 4 days ago ... possibly this might be a bug?
[21:33] <roadfish> ok, things are working again ... I had to do something ...
[21:33] <sonic|2> maybe something to do with screensaver?
[21:33] <roadfish> on the bottom left of the login prompt, I can switch between default/plasma/etc
[21:34] <roadfish>  but none of the checklist buttons were selected
[21:34] <roadfish> however, once I selected one of these checklist buttons, then the login completes.
[21:35] <roadfish> so I guess this is a mini-bug ... probably one of the checklist buttons should be selected ahead of time by KDE
[22:11] <asgard20032> I find it strange that its libre office that come with Kubuntu
[22:12] <dougl> what do you suppose would make a printout do this http://imagebin.org/224201
[22:59] <asgard20032> I find it strange that its libre office that come with Kubuntu
[22:59] <asgard20032> Was sure it would be either Calligra suite or Koffice
[23:00] <BarkingFish> You can download koffice, i think.  But it ships as you rightly say, with LibreOffice - it used to be OpenOffice I believe
[23:00] <BarkingFish> !info koffice precise
[23:02] <asgard20032> From what I read here: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=92116.0
[23:02] <asgard20032> Koffice is discountinuated
[23:02] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[23:02] <asgard20032> So better to install Calligra, but I know I can install it myself
[23:02] <asgard20032> But I just wonder why Kubuntu don't offer a full KDE environment
[23:03] <asgard20032> Also, with the Muon software manager, I find it hard to install thing
[23:03] <asgard20032> Everytime
[23:03] <asgard20032> I search for a library, cant find it
[23:04] <BarkingFish> there are other managers, asgard20032 - you could try apper for example
[23:04] <asgard20032> For example, libSDL
[23:04] <BarkingFish> apper is MUCH easier to use than muon
[23:04] <asgard20032> And apper work well under ubuntu?
[23:05] <asgard20032> kubuntu
[23:05] <BarkingFish> yes
[23:05] <BarkingFish> it is based off of kpackagekit, which is what kubuntu used to ship with up until 11.10
[23:06] <asgard20032> Ok I just searched Apper in muon
[23:06] <asgard20032> 4 result
[23:06] <asgard20032> Apper updates, Apper Settings, Apper Installer and Apper
[23:06] <asgard20032> If I select Apper, does it install everything?
[23:47] <asgard20032> So how should I install Apper?
[23:47] <asgard20032> Ok I just searched Apper in muon 4 result"
[23:47] <asgard20032> Apper updates, Apper Settings, Apper Installer and Apper. Which one should I install?
[23:52] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, don't try to install it through muon
[23:53] <BarkingFish> do it like this: press alt and f2, type konsole and hit enter.
[23:53] <BarkingFish> when you get a terminal open, simply type: apt-get install apper  and your system will do the rest
[23:53] <BarkingFish> i would never install anything through muon, it's not reliable imo
[23:54] <asgard20032> Once its installed, how should I replace the Muon icon in K menu, computer? (a place where there is only 3 option: System setting, Muon, Run command
[23:55] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, which menu do you have? the application launcher menu, or the classic K menu?
[23:55] <asgard20032> I dont know
[23:55] <asgard20032> The default menu from Kubuntu
[23:55] <BarkingFish> if you right click the K button, it should say Switch to Classic Menu
[23:56] <BarkingFish> click that, and you will get the full, proper K Menu- the one with all your programs in.
[23:56] <BarkingFish> Apper will be listed under the System menu
[23:57] <asgard20032> If i right click K button
[23:57] <asgard20032> Edit application
[23:57] <asgard20032> Application luncher setting
[23:57] <asgard20032> Unlock widget
[23:57] <asgard20032> Thats all
[23:58] <BarkingFish> Click Unlock Widgets first
[23:58] <BarkingFish> I don't think you can change the widget type while widgets are locked
[23:58] <asgard20032> Ok, but thats not that
[23:58] <asgard20032> I want for the default one
[23:58] <asgard20032> Not the classic menu
[23:58] <asgard20032> If you click K, go to computer
[23:58] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, in KDE, the classic menu should normally be the default.
[23:59] <asgard20032> No, it is luncher menu for me
[23:59] <asgard20032> The default one
[23:59] <BarkingFish> We have it as the Application launcher menu, I don't know why. It always used to be the Classic menu
[23:59] <asgard20032> Anyway, I am talking about K -> Computer Tab
[23:59] <BarkingFish> Right, ok.  Well I don't use that menu, I use the classic - so I can see all the programs and groups in one go.
[23:59] <asgard20032> How to replace the muon shortcut by the apper one?