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gosukiwiHello! I'm having a problem, everytime I turn on my PC i need to run a command to fix my mouse sensitivity (xinput --set-prop "Razer DeathAdder" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 5) Is it possible to run it automatically every time I turn on my pc?01:17
kiraslaughHello?03:43
micheghi08:59
micheghow so many gtk3 apps?09:00
Unit193Did you happen to see the work items for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items ?09:03
OsmodivsHello world. How can I get an invitation from OpenBox?  I need one in order to -vía chat- suggest improvements to their Window Manager.12:00
bioterrorOsmodivs, tsk tsk: Openbox has an IRC channel on oftc stealthily called #openbox12:01
bioterrorand that's for support ;)12:02
bioterrorI think12:03
bioterrorbut worth of checking out12:03
OsmodivsIF only I knew to code. THEN I would fix it.12:04
jokerdinohi. someone wants to weigh in on this bug? bug #103560712:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035607 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Unity-greeter doesn't have a badge for Lubuntu session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103560712:07
bioterrordefault session to rule them all! ;D12:08
jokerdinohehe12:09
bioterrortechnically that's artwork related problem?12:09
jokerdinoi think it looks somewhat ugly not to have any specific badge and to just use a fallback white circle.12:09
jokerdinobioterror: i am not sure. hence, asking for some guidance here.12:09
bioterrorjokerdino, hmmm12:45
bioterrorjokerdino, you could add an icon there yourself?-)12:45
jokerdinoi could do it for my computer alone but others won't benefit from it.12:45
jokerdinobest if it is done on the distribution level12:45
bioterroryeah, ofcourse12:46
bioterrorbut you could take for example the Lubuntu logo and put it there?-)12:46
jokerdinoyeah12:46
jokerdinobut then again, i am not the artwork guy12:47
Lukohi12:54
Lukois posible to use in lubuntu ATi propiertary driver?12:54
bioterroryes12:55
kiraslaughcould anyone recommend good replacements for bmpanel and pypanel13:38
kiraslaughrunning openbox on lubuntu13:38
chestwoodhi14:06
bioterrorevening14:06
chestwoodis this the place where i can get help whit lubuntu?14:06
bioterrorit depends14:06
bioterrorif your problem is too complicated to us :D14:07
chestwoodon what14:07
bioterror!ask | chestwood14:07
ubottuchestwood: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:07
chestwoodok i got this old passifly cooled computer wich i tried to set up lubuntu whit the altenative cd and after the instalation the screen didnt get a signal14:08
chestwoodit had windows 2000 on it before wich worked fine14:09
chestwoodwell as fine as windows 2000 can work at least14:09
bioterrorboot into text mode and generate xorg.conf14:09
bioterrorI touched yesterday Windows 200014:09
bioterrorit was horrible14:09
bioterrorit was okay 10 years ago14:10
chestwoodhow do i boot into text mode?14:10
bioterrorwhen you boot your computer, press left shift key after BIOS14:10
bioterroryou end up to grub14:10
chestwoodok ill try14:10
bioterroredit the first grub like and add to the kernel line after "ro quiet" or what it wasthis "text" without ""14:10
bioterrorgrub line, even14:11
bioterrorwhen you end up to the tty1, Xorg -configure14:16
bioterrorthen: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf14:16
chestwoodi dont get into grub secreen just says no signal after the grub text shows up14:18
bioterrorhard to help then14:19
bioterrornow I'm off to grilling n chilling! ;D14:19
chestwooddoe you know what could be the problem?14:19
chestwooddidnt work14:35
chestwooddo i have to do somethin spezial on instalation?14:35
chestwoodi think it just doesnt get my screen its connected via vga or is the graphix card too weak'14:36
chestwoodno ideas?14:37
chestwoodplease help14:39
holsteinchestwood: whats going on?15:02
holsteinchestwood: it wont be an issue of "too weak".. it will be an issue of support15:03
kiraslaughcould anyone recommend good replacements for bmpanel and pypanel running openbox on lubuntu15:07
chestwoodwell te isue is that my screen says no signal after the loadscreen15:08
holsteinkiraslaugh: the panel that LXDE comes with.. or tint215:08
holsteini would fire up a package manager, and search "panel" and just start trying them.. theres usually good reason why apps get taken out of the repos15:09
holsteinyou are always welcome to research applications, and see where they are in their development, and fork them, and support them... its a good idea to do that upstream in debian so they "trickle down"15:09
kiraslaughholstein: hey i was trying tint2, it works, i need another panel though to replace pypanel15:10
holsteinchestwood: i usually troubleshoot... i try other hardware, other monitors.. i use live CD's such as puppy or knoppix.. i grab an xorg.conf from a live environement thats working, and put it in my system much like bioterror was explaining15:10
chestwoodits a celeron onboard graphix card or something idk exactly i got this computer used15:10
holsteinchestwood: i would boot the live CD in safe graphics mode til i get to the desktop15:11
chestwoodi got the alternative cd15:11
chestwoodbut i could burn a live one15:11
holsteinchestwood: live CD's are just what i use.. i want to see the deskop live.. i want to know that i can support linux on the device, and how much trouble its going to be15:12
chestwoodok ill burn one15:12
holsteinchestwood: can you put an xorg.conf in place on your system right now? sure.. how do you do that? ...depends on the hardware15:13
holsteinforcing the vesa driver is what i would be trying to do15:13
chestwoodwhat driver?15:13
holsteinchestwood: safre graphics mode..vesa driver.. it should always "just work"15:13
chestwoodok ill burn a live cd and try it15:14
holsteinchestwood: in the wizard on the puppy live CD, you can choose a lot of different options til the desktop "works"15:14
holsteini sometimes do that to learn what needs to be done, or to steal the xorg.conf from there15:14
chestwoodi got lubuntu15:14
chestwoodand im pretty noobish to linux15:15
holsteinchestwood: correct.. i use the pupply live CD, or knoppix as a method to learn what i need to do to support whatever i choose to run15:15
holsteini want to learn about the hardware... what driver i can use with linux.. what resolution works... i want to see a desktop, then i can go from there15:15
chestwoodso i should get pupy'15:16
holsteinchestwood: if you are new, you might consider trying some different live CD's and see what "just works"15:16
holsteincould be that an ubuntu 10.04 version would just work15:16
holsteinchestwood: you should do what you feel comfortable doing15:16
chestwoodwhat different live cd would you recoment?15:17
holsteinchestwood: i have literally a hundred or so, so i just use them for troubleshooting15:17
chestwoodi actually tried ubuntu 10 before15:17
holsteinchestwood: i typically try the current LTS, the upcoming beta, and something around the time the hardware was made.. also puppy or knoppix or other diagnostic CD's15:18
holsteini test the memory, and the hard drive... i see what the hardware is.. i search wikis...15:18
holsteinoperating systems typically come preloaded from the manufactuer for a reason.. its not always easy15:19
chestwoodhow can you look what the hardware is?15:19
holsteinchestwood: i like to get a live CD running on the desktop and run commands that tell me exactly what is what... lspci, lsusb.. whatever i need15:20
holsteinchestwood: if i cant get to a desktop, i get to a command prompt.. or a turn the unit over and search the manufacturers site, which is not ideal15:20
holsteinthey can change versions of hardware randomly during production which can make supporting hardware challening for any OS15:21
holsteinfirst linux OS i ran for an extended period of time was mepis, and its because it mostly "just worked" ...if you are new, i say, do what is comfortable, and just try and get your feet wet15:22
chestwoodwould it change something if i would reinstall windows 2000 wisch works and install it from there15:23
holsteinchestwood: windows is a different OS.. it has nothing to do with what you are doing15:23
chestwoodi mean the drivers worked on there waybe it would work15:23
holsteinyou could have very similar issues installing windwos 715:24
holsteinchestwood: those drivers are for windows, and have nothing to do with linux or lubuntu or ubuntu15:24
chestwoodcould it cange something if i connect the computer to the internet?15:24
holsteinchestwood: you can literally try it, and it wont hurt anything, but the issue is driver support for your graphics card15:24
holsteinyou will put a custom xorg.conf in place forcing the vesa driver, and you will get a desktop15:25
holsteinbut, you can get there however you like.. i would suggest downloading the xubuntu live CD.. i would hit shift when booting.. at the bottom you will see F6 as an option... you select "nomodeset" .. try and boot to the live environment15:25
chestwoodso i just burn the live cd and run save graphix mode and it works?15:26
holsteinchestwood: in theory...15:26
chestwoodi got a xubuntu live cd on my desk15:27
chestwoodi tryed many os but every one failed after the loadscreen15:27
chestwoodbut i can try safe graphix15:27
holsteinchestwood: boot that... start tapping shift... you'll see a menu.. hit F6, select "nomodeset" proceed to "try it live"15:28
chestwoodok ill try tat if what im dping now doesnt work15:29
chestwooddamn my english sucks sorry about that15:29
holsteinxorg -configure *should* work as well.. though it has failed me a few times15:29
holsteintotally my fault for not understanding it better though15:30
holsteinthis is assuming what bioterror suggested doesnt work for you15:30
chestwoodwell if i get to grub it goes black asusual15:30
holsteinchestwood: theres a "recovery" kernel.. right under the normal one15:31
holsteinyou boot, tapping shift, you'll see your current grub... you choose the 2nd one, which should be "recovery" something15:32
holsteinyou'll see options for recovery... root shells... handy stuff15:32
chestwoodwell im installing it pn nomodeset atm15:33
chestwoodanother question if i get it working can i remote controll it over network somwhow?15:35
holsteinchestwood: many ways15:35
chestwoodthe easyest?¨15:35
holsteindepends... what are you used to using?15:36
holsteinits never (in my opinion) whats easiest, its more about whats the most like what you are already used to15:36
chestwoodim just getting in to that stuff15:36
holsteinalso depends on what the goal is.. i typically ssh into a command promt.. this gives me all the control i want of the remote machine15:37
holsteini can forward x sessions if i choose15:37
chestwoodi want to overwatch some programms on it15:37
holsteinthere are commercial products that work great such as teamviewer, which is free of charge, and works great and is easy to install and configure through firewalls15:37
chestwoodwell the goal is to have it sit beside the router whitout monitor and keyboard and i wanna cotroll it form my pc (windows 7)15:39
holsteinsure... i can think of several ways to do that... 2 of which i mentioned above... any VNC connection15:39
chestwoodwhat does braille terminal mean/do?15:49
holsteinchestwood: if you are in need of braille assistance, that would be key15:49
chestwooddont get it what does braille suppot do?15:50
holsteinchestwood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_Braille_display15:51
holsteinit literally allows a person who needs assitance to "feel" text15:51
chestwoodoh15:51
chestwoodwhere can u get those drivers?15:53
chestwoodveso or something?15:53
holsteinchestwood: drivers for the braille displays?15:54
holsteinthey are included in the kernel.. most drivers are15:54
chestwoodno those viso or whatever drivers15:55
holsteinwhatever is allowed to be included, and is current will "just work" with linux15:55
holsteinchestwood: they are in the kernel15:55
holsteinchestwood: you have only to specify to teh system to utilize them15:55
chestwoodi finally got into the grub menu15:57
chestwoodwhat to do now?15:57
holsteinchestwood: that is the grub list for a version of linux you have installed?15:58
chestwoodthere are 4 options15:58
chestwoodthe first one is ubuntu, whit linux 3.2.0-23-generic15:59
chestwoodwhat should i do now?16:00
holsteinchestwood: you should see as the 2nd optin "recovery"16:02
chestwoodyea16:02
chestwoodtake that one?16:03
holsteinchestwood: in there are lots of options for recovery.. i usually try whichh ever i need.. or many of them.. should be one for graphics.. one for root terminal16:03
holsteinchestwood: take what you like.. there will not be a "fix this machine" button.. though i wish we could make that button.. it depends on your hardware and how you would like to try and get graphics support16:03
holsteini would likely try the graphics reconfigure option and see.. then i would go into the root terminal and do what needs to be done... the option that bioterror suggested for example, or creating a custom xorg.conf.. or copying over one that i know would work from a live CD i have used that worked16:05
chestwoodthere was no live cd that worked jet and i tried a few16:06
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/172319/how-can-i-start-ubuntu-12-04-in-safe-mode16:08
chestwoodill try dsl maybe that will work16:08
holsteinsure.. no one here who has had your issue mentioned DSL, but try it.. and see16:08
holsteingood luck chestwood .. gtg16:09
chestwoodthx bb16:10
lukohi16:10
bioterrorDSL is no longer maintained16:13
bioterrorif I recall correctly16:14
bioterroroh, there's a RC16:14
bioterrorlatest stable is 3 years old :D16:15
chestwoodi think its the chipset driver17:53
chestwoodsomebody knows how to install that http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/AGP_INTEL.html17:53
bioterrorhas nothing to do with the thing that you cant see even grub17:55
chestwoodi managed to get into the grub menue before17:56
chestwoodand loadscreens work fine too but then no signal17:56
chestwoodi got one of those ftp://ftp.aplica.at/Brochures/DigitalLogic/MPC30_31.pdf17:57
chestwoodnot even pupy linux works17:58
bioterroryeah, now you can do some math17:58
chestwood?17:58
bioterrorif you're employed guy and you make about 10 euros an hour, how much you give value for your free time to play around with obsolete hardware from the ~year 200017:59
chestwoodwhy not18:00
bioterrorI dont want to sound like a prick or something like that, but people should see sometimes the point where to lift hands up and say "I'm going to recycle this piece of junk"18:00
chestwoodyea propably im just going to put windows 2000 on there and make this 24/718:01
bioterrorwhy you want to run W2k?18:02
chestwoodi wanted to make it a torrent server so i dont have to runn my power hungry computer all day and cause its quiet passifly cooled18:04
bioterrorwhat the heck18:05
bioterrorwhy dont you buy raspberry pi then?18:05
bioterrorfor example, or something else18:05
chestwoodidk18:06
chestwoodbut anyway ill look what i can do18:06
chestwoodant if it doesnt work ill throw it away18:07
bioterror466MHz Celeron CPU has 25.7W TDP18:08
chestwood750mhz18:08
bioterrorist that which celeron?18:09
bioterrorit's 23.6W18:09
chestwoodanyway thanks cya18:10
gld1982ltdHi all. I have created a team on Launchpad for LXMenuEditor. The team currently is all set up with a project page and a ppa. I packaged this program (lxmed or LXMenuEditor) with some help. However, it didn't upload properly to my ppa. So, I created this team. The trunk from upstream is due to be imported soon. Would anyone here like to join this team and help provide this great lxde menu editor to the community?20:44
dbtmro2Hi. Anyone know a ppa for the latest LXDE?21:17
gld1982ltdare you using lubuntu?21:20
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