[01:17] <gosukiwi> Hello! I'm having a problem, everytime I turn on my PC i need to run a command to fix my mouse sensitivity (xinput --set-prop "Razer DeathAdder" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 5) Is it possible to run it automatically every time I turn on my pc?
[03:43] <kiraslaugh> Hello?
[08:59] <micheg> hi
[09:00] <micheg> how so many gtk3 apps?
[09:03] <Unit193> Did you happen to see the work items for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-q-work-items ?
[12:00] <Osmodivs> Hello world. How can I get an invitation from OpenBox?  I need one in order to -vía chat- suggest improvements to their Window Manager.
[12:01] <bioterror> Osmodivs, tsk tsk: Openbox has an IRC channel on oftc stealthily called #openbox
[12:02] <bioterror> and that's for support ;)
[12:03] <bioterror> I think
[12:03] <bioterror> but worth of checking out
[12:04] <Osmodivs> IF only I knew to code. THEN I would fix it.
[12:07] <jokerdino> hi. someone wants to weigh in on this bug? bug #1035607
[12:08] <bioterror> default session to rule them all! ;D
[12:09] <jokerdino> hehe
[12:09] <bioterror> technically that's artwork related problem?
[12:09] <jokerdino> i think it looks somewhat ugly not to have any specific badge and to just use a fallback white circle.
[12:09] <jokerdino> bioterror: i am not sure. hence, asking for some guidance here.
[12:45] <bioterror> jokerdino, hmmm
[12:45] <bioterror> jokerdino, you could add an icon there yourself?-)
[12:45] <jokerdino> i could do it for my computer alone but others won't benefit from it.
[12:45] <jokerdino> best if it is done on the distribution level
[12:46] <bioterror> yeah, ofcourse
[12:46] <bioterror> but you could take for example the Lubuntu logo and put it there?-)
[12:46] <jokerdino> yeah
[12:47] <jokerdino> but then again, i am not the artwork guy
[12:54] <Luko> hi
[12:54] <Luko> is posible to use in lubuntu ATi propiertary driver?
[12:55] <bioterror> yes
[13:38] <kiraslaugh> could anyone recommend good replacements for bmpanel and pypanel
[13:38] <kiraslaugh> running openbox on lubuntu
[14:06] <chestwood> hi
[14:06] <bioterror> evening
[14:06] <chestwood> is this the place where i can get help whit lubuntu?
[14:06] <bioterror> it depends
[14:07] <bioterror> if your problem is too complicated to us :D
[14:07] <chestwood> on what
[14:07] <bioterror> !ask | chestwood
[14:08] <chestwood> ok i got this old passifly cooled computer wich i tried to set up lubuntu whit the altenative cd and after the instalation the screen didnt get a signal
[14:09] <chestwood> it had windows 2000 on it before wich worked fine
[14:09] <chestwood> well as fine as windows 2000 can work at least
[14:09] <bioterror> boot into text mode and generate xorg.conf
[14:09] <bioterror> I touched yesterday Windows 2000
[14:09] <bioterror> it was horrible
[14:10] <bioterror> it was okay 10 years ago
[14:10] <chestwood> how do i boot into text mode?
[14:10] <bioterror> when you boot your computer, press left shift key after BIOS
[14:10] <bioterror> you end up to grub
[14:10] <chestwood> ok ill try
[14:10] <bioterror> edit the first grub like and add to the kernel line after "ro quiet" or what it wasthis "text" without ""
[14:11] <bioterror> grub line, even
[14:16] <bioterror> when you end up to the tty1, Xorg -configure
[14:16] <bioterror> then: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:18] <chestwood> i dont get into grub secreen just says no signal after the grub text shows up
[14:19] <bioterror> hard to help then
[14:19] <bioterror> now I'm off to grilling n chilling! ;D
[14:19] <chestwood> doe you know what could be the problem?
[14:35] <chestwood> didnt work
[14:35] <chestwood> do i have to do somethin spezial on instalation?
[14:36] <chestwood> i think it just doesnt get my screen its connected via vga or is the graphix card too weak'
[14:37] <chestwood> no ideas?
[14:39] <chestwood> please help
[15:02] <holstein> chestwood: whats going on?
[15:03] <holstein> chestwood: it wont be an issue of "too weak".. it will be an issue of support
[15:07] <kiraslaugh> could anyone recommend good replacements for bmpanel and pypanel running openbox on lubuntu
[15:08] <chestwood> well te isue is that my screen says no signal after the loadscreen
[15:08] <holstein> kiraslaugh: the panel that LXDE comes with.. or tint2
[15:09] <holstein> i would fire up a package manager, and search "panel" and just start trying them.. theres usually good reason why apps get taken out of the repos
[15:09] <holstein> you are always welcome to research applications, and see where they are in their development, and fork them, and support them... its a good idea to do that upstream in debian so they "trickle down"
[15:10] <kiraslaugh> holstein: hey i was trying tint2, it works, i need another panel though to replace pypanel
[15:10] <holstein> chestwood: i usually troubleshoot... i try other hardware, other monitors.. i use live CD's such as puppy or knoppix.. i grab an xorg.conf from a live environement thats working, and put it in my system much like bioterror was explaining
[15:10] <chestwood> its a celeron onboard graphix card or something idk exactly i got this computer used
[15:11] <holstein> chestwood: i would boot the live CD in safe graphics mode til i get to the desktop
[15:11] <chestwood> i got the alternative cd
[15:11] <chestwood> but i could burn a live one
[15:12] <holstein> chestwood: live CD's are just what i use.. i want to see the deskop live.. i want to know that i can support linux on the device, and how much trouble its going to be
[15:12] <chestwood> ok ill burn one
[15:13] <holstein> chestwood: can you put an xorg.conf in place on your system right now? sure.. how do you do that? ...depends on the hardware
[15:13] <holstein> forcing the vesa driver is what i would be trying to do
[15:13] <chestwood> what driver?
[15:13] <holstein> chestwood: safre graphics mode..vesa driver.. it should always "just work"
[15:14] <chestwood> ok ill burn a live cd and try it
[15:14] <holstein> chestwood: in the wizard on the puppy live CD, you can choose a lot of different options til the desktop "works"
[15:14] <holstein> i sometimes do that to learn what needs to be done, or to steal the xorg.conf from there
[15:14] <chestwood> i got lubuntu
[15:15] <chestwood> and im pretty noobish to linux
[15:15] <holstein> chestwood: correct.. i use the pupply live CD, or knoppix as a method to learn what i need to do to support whatever i choose to run
[15:15] <holstein> i want to learn about the hardware... what driver i can use with linux.. what resolution works... i want to see a desktop, then i can go from there
[15:16] <chestwood> so i should get pupy'
[15:16] <holstein> chestwood: if you are new, you might consider trying some different live CD's and see what "just works"
[15:16] <holstein> could be that an ubuntu 10.04 version would just work
[15:16] <holstein> chestwood: you should do what you feel comfortable doing
[15:17] <chestwood> what different live cd would you recoment?
[15:17] <holstein> chestwood: i have literally a hundred or so, so i just use them for troubleshooting
[15:17] <chestwood> i actually tried ubuntu 10 before
[15:18] <holstein> chestwood: i typically try the current LTS, the upcoming beta, and something around the time the hardware was made.. also puppy or knoppix or other diagnostic CD's
[15:18] <holstein> i test the memory, and the hard drive... i see what the hardware is.. i search wikis...
[15:19] <holstein> operating systems typically come preloaded from the manufactuer for a reason.. its not always easy
[15:19] <chestwood> how can you look what the hardware is?
[15:20] <holstein> chestwood: i like to get a live CD running on the desktop and run commands that tell me exactly what is what... lspci, lsusb.. whatever i need
[15:20] <holstein> chestwood: if i cant get to a desktop, i get to a command prompt.. or a turn the unit over and search the manufacturers site, which is not ideal
[15:21] <holstein> they can change versions of hardware randomly during production which can make supporting hardware challening for any OS
[15:22] <holstein> first linux OS i ran for an extended period of time was mepis, and its because it mostly "just worked" ...if you are new, i say, do what is comfortable, and just try and get your feet wet
[15:23] <chestwood> would it change something if i would reinstall windows 2000 wisch works and install it from there
[15:23] <holstein> chestwood: windows is a different OS.. it has nothing to do with what you are doing
[15:23] <chestwood> i mean the drivers worked on there waybe it would work
[15:24] <holstein> you could have very similar issues installing windwos 7
[15:24] <holstein> chestwood: those drivers are for windows, and have nothing to do with linux or lubuntu or ubuntu
[15:24] <chestwood> could it cange something if i connect the computer to the internet?
[15:24] <holstein> chestwood: you can literally try it, and it wont hurt anything, but the issue is driver support for your graphics card
[15:25] <holstein> you will put a custom xorg.conf in place forcing the vesa driver, and you will get a desktop
[15:25] <holstein> but, you can get there however you like.. i would suggest downloading the xubuntu live CD.. i would hit shift when booting.. at the bottom you will see F6 as an option... you select "nomodeset" .. try and boot to the live environment
[15:26] <chestwood> so i just burn the live cd and run save graphix mode and it works?
[15:26] <holstein> chestwood: in theory...
[15:27] <chestwood> i got a xubuntu live cd on my desk
[15:27] <chestwood> i tryed many os but every one failed after the loadscreen
[15:27] <chestwood> but i can try safe graphix
[15:28] <holstein> chestwood: boot that... start tapping shift... you'll see a menu.. hit F6, select "nomodeset" proceed to "try it live"
[15:29] <chestwood> ok ill try tat if what im dping now doesnt work
[15:29] <chestwood> damn my english sucks sorry about that
[15:29] <holstein> xorg -configure *should* work as well.. though it has failed me a few times
[15:30] <holstein> totally my fault for not understanding it better though
[15:30] <holstein> this is assuming what bioterror suggested doesnt work for you
[15:30] <chestwood> well if i get to grub it goes black asusual
[15:31] <holstein> chestwood: theres a "recovery" kernel.. right under the normal one
[15:32] <holstein> you boot, tapping shift, you'll see your current grub... you choose the 2nd one, which should be "recovery" something
[15:32] <holstein> you'll see options for recovery... root shells... handy stuff
[15:33] <chestwood> well im installing it pn nomodeset atm
[15:35] <chestwood> another question if i get it working can i remote controll it over network somwhow?
[15:35] <holstein> chestwood: many ways
[15:35] <chestwood> the easyest?¨
[15:36] <holstein> depends... what are you used to using?
[15:36] <holstein> its never (in my opinion) whats easiest, its more about whats the most like what you are already used to
[15:36] <chestwood> im just getting in to that stuff
[15:37] <holstein> also depends on what the goal is.. i typically ssh into a command promt.. this gives me all the control i want of the remote machine
[15:37] <holstein> i can forward x sessions if i choose
[15:37] <chestwood> i want to overwatch some programms on it
[15:37] <holstein> there are commercial products that work great such as teamviewer, which is free of charge, and works great and is easy to install and configure through firewalls
[15:39] <chestwood> well the goal is to have it sit beside the router whitout monitor and keyboard and i wanna cotroll it form my pc (windows 7)
[15:39] <holstein> sure... i can think of several ways to do that... 2 of which i mentioned above... any VNC connection
[15:49] <chestwood> what does braille terminal mean/do?
[15:49] <holstein> chestwood: if you are in need of braille assistance, that would be key
[15:50] <chestwood> dont get it what does braille suppot do?
[15:51] <holstein> chestwood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_Braille_display
[15:51] <holstein> it literally allows a person who needs assitance to "feel" text
[15:51] <chestwood> oh
[15:53] <chestwood> where can u get those drivers?
[15:53] <chestwood> veso or something?
[15:54] <holstein> chestwood: drivers for the braille displays?
[15:54] <holstein> they are included in the kernel.. most drivers are
[15:55] <chestwood> no those viso or whatever drivers
[15:55] <holstein> whatever is allowed to be included, and is current will "just work" with linux
[15:55] <holstein> chestwood: they are in the kernel
[15:55] <holstein> chestwood: you have only to specify to teh system to utilize them
[15:57] <chestwood> i finally got into the grub menu
[15:57] <chestwood> what to do now?
[15:58] <holstein> chestwood: that is the grub list for a version of linux you have installed?
[15:58] <chestwood> there are 4 options
[15:59] <chestwood> the first one is ubuntu, whit linux 3.2.0-23-generic
[16:00] <chestwood> what should i do now?
[16:02] <holstein> chestwood: you should see as the 2nd optin "recovery"
[16:02] <chestwood> yea
[16:03] <chestwood> take that one?
[16:03] <holstein> chestwood: in there are lots of options for recovery.. i usually try whichh ever i need.. or many of them.. should be one for graphics.. one for root terminal
[16:03] <holstein> chestwood: take what you like.. there will not be a "fix this machine" button.. though i wish we could make that button.. it depends on your hardware and how you would like to try and get graphics support
[16:05] <holstein> i would likely try the graphics reconfigure option and see.. then i would go into the root terminal and do what needs to be done... the option that bioterror suggested for example, or creating a custom xorg.conf.. or copying over one that i know would work from a live CD i have used that worked
[16:06] <chestwood> there was no live cd that worked jet and i tried a few
[16:08] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172319/how-can-i-start-ubuntu-12-04-in-safe-mode
[16:08] <chestwood> ill try dsl maybe that will work
[16:08] <holstein> sure.. no one here who has had your issue mentioned DSL, but try it.. and see
[16:09] <holstein> good luck chestwood .. gtg
[16:10] <chestwood> thx bb
[16:10] <luko> hi
[16:13] <bioterror> DSL is no longer maintained
[16:14] <bioterror> if I recall correctly
[16:14] <bioterror> oh, there's a RC
[16:15] <bioterror> latest stable is 3 years old :D
[17:53] <chestwood> i think its the chipset driver
[17:53] <chestwood> somebody knows how to install that http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/AGP_INTEL.html
[17:55] <bioterror> has nothing to do with the thing that you cant see even grub
[17:56] <chestwood> i managed to get into the grub menue before
[17:56] <chestwood> and loadscreens work fine too but then no signal
[17:57] <chestwood> i got one of those ftp://ftp.aplica.at/Brochures/DigitalLogic/MPC30_31.pdf
[17:58] <chestwood> not even pupy linux works
[17:58] <bioterror> yeah, now you can do some math
[17:58] <chestwood> ?
[17:59] <bioterror> if you're employed guy and you make about 10 euros an hour, how much you give value for your free time to play around with obsolete hardware from the ~year 2000
[18:00] <chestwood> why not
[18:00] <bioterror> I dont want to sound like a prick or something like that, but people should see sometimes the point where to lift hands up and say "I'm going to recycle this piece of junk"
[18:01] <chestwood> yea propably im just going to put windows 2000 on there and make this 24/7
[18:02] <bioterror> why you want to run W2k?
[18:04] <chestwood> i wanted to make it a torrent server so i dont have to runn my power hungry computer all day and cause its quiet passifly cooled
[18:05] <bioterror> what the heck
[18:05] <bioterror> why dont you buy raspberry pi then?
[18:05] <bioterror> for example, or something else
[18:06] <chestwood> idk
[18:06] <chestwood> but anyway ill look what i can do
[18:07] <chestwood> ant if it doesnt work ill throw it away
[18:08] <bioterror> 466MHz Celeron CPU has 25.7W TDP
[18:08] <chestwood> 750mhz
[18:09] <bioterror> ist that which celeron?
[18:09] <bioterror> it's 23.6W
[18:10] <chestwood> anyway thanks cya
[20:44] <gld1982ltd> Hi all. I have created a team on Launchpad for LXMenuEditor. The team currently is all set up with a project page and a ppa. I packaged this program (lxmed or LXMenuEditor) with some help. However, it didn't upload properly to my ppa. So, I created this team. The trunk from upstream is due to be imported soon. Would anyone here like to join this team and help provide this great lxde menu editor to the community?
[21:17] <dbtmro2> Hi. Anyone know a ppa for the latest LXDE?
[21:20] <gld1982ltd> are you using lubuntu?