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stlsaintVampy: my destination?00:00
stlsaintno value needed there?00:00
Vampyaccording to Flurdy's howto, i didnt seem to have one00:00
stlsaintmay be where issue lies00:01
stlsaintone sec00:01
Vampysure00:01
stlsaintVampy: you using virtual domains?00:01
Vampystlsaint, would like to, yes00:01
stlsaintVampy: but you are not right now?00:02
Vampyif i have followed the howto correctly, i SHOULD be using VD"s00:02
Vampyas for what i'm using right now, i'm a little lost and a tad confused.00:03
stlsaintVampy: ubuntu 12.04?00:04
Vampyyes00:04
Vampyi have 2 server, one will host business email, and HOPEFULLY personal email.00:05
Vampythen the other will host websites.00:05
stlsaintim thinking you need a destination parameter00:06
upalipsuthank you geirha, this is a good read00:07
stlsaintVampy: im almost positive *something* should be there00:07
stlsaintVampy: around the lines of: mydestination = server1.example.com, example.com, localhost.example.com, localhost00:07
Vampycommon sense said the same to me..00:09
Vampyso if the server name is "vampsmailserv1" i'd need mydestination = server1.vampsmailserv.com?00:10
stlsaintno00:13
stlsaintjust vampsmailserv100:13
stlsaint.whatever00:13
stlsaintuntil you start getting subdomains or virtual sites ran00:14
stlsaintSteve_B: o/00:16
Steve_Bstlsaint: Yes00:16
stlsaintSteve_B: hello00:17
Steve_Bstlsaint: why hello there00:17
Vampyok, stlsaint gimme a sec here i need to change out keyboard. the one i got on the server has too many small key for my larger fingers.00:17
Vampyok stlsaint.. i'm back00:29
Vampyso the mydestination should read just (servername) would localhost be good or bad to enter?00:29
upalipsuwhen you echo day | s/day/night/ it returns-    bash: s/day/night/: No such file or directory00:32
Vampystlsaint, ubuntu.pastebin.com/1140256 is the output from postfix restart00:32
jake_hello.  i am trying to get a netgear wnda3100v2 to work on ubuntu 12.04lts 32 bit.  i have followed instructiond provided at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1964173 all the way down to the last post of the first page.  typing iwconfig into terminal gives back lo      no wireless extensions.   eth0        no wireless extensions.  any thoughts on what i may have done wrong?00:36
stlsaintVampy: please use correct site00:37
stlsaintubuntu.pastebin.com is not correct00:38
stlsainteither ubuntu.paste or pastebin.com?00:38
Vampypaste.ubuntu.com/1140256 sorry00:38
JoseeAntonioRs/ubuntu.paste/paste.ubuntu00:38
upalipsuhaha00:38
stlsaintVampy: ok so does your mail server work now?00:39
stlsaintJoseeAntonioR: thanks00:39
* stlsaint used debian :P00:39
stlsaintpaste site00:39
stlsaintjake_: one sec00:40
Vampyi cant restart postfix without all those error00:40
stlsaintVampy: what errors? your paste just showed it started just fine00:43
stlsaintjake_: ouch, seems you picked a headache of a card lol00:43
stlsaintjake_: how experienced are you with linux?00:43
stlsaintjake_: i ask because it seems the fix (or potential attempts at a fix) are a bit advanced00:43
Vampystlsaint, at the end of the restart it does say [ok]00:44
jake_not experienced at all00:44
stlsaintVampy: did it say ok before also?00:45
Vampycant see back that far00:45
Vampyeven with shift+pgup00:45
stlsaintVampy: what command are you using to start00:45
Vampyservice postfix restart was the last00:46
Vampyshould i service postfix stop then service postfix start?00:46
stlsaintservice postfix restart 2&<1 | tee postfix_start.log00:46
stlsainthrm, wonder if im missing a switch in there00:47
Vampynow look at that log file i just made right?00:48
Vampyand there is nothing in that log file.00:49
stlsaintVampy: lol i missed switch, one sec00:50
Vampysure00:50
stlsaintVampy: nope, had wrong command00:50
stlsaintVampy: do instead:00:50
stlsaintservice postfix restart 2<&1 | tee postfix_start.log00:50
stlsaintVampy: look through that log with less00:51
stlsaintcat postfix_start.log | less00:51
stlsaintjake_: i can provide a guide on the issue but i must leave in 5 mins00:52
stlsaintjake_: will be back in about two hours and can help then but not atm00:52
stlsaintjake_: the fix was only working via a 64bit install but your on 32 so try this one: http://polach.cc/broadcom-wifi-adapter-wpa-access-fix-on-ubuntu-ii00:52
stlsaintVampy: ??00:53
jake_ok, ill give that one a go00:55
stlsaintjake_: please take note of what you are doing if need to reverse process00:55
jake_ok00:55
stlsaintVampy: anything?00:58
stlsaintbbiaf00:59
upalipsuthanks for all the help stlsaint and geirha02:25
stlsaintupalipsu: np02:38
stlsaintVampy: did you get all setup ?02:41
jake_i now have a netgear genie on my screen, but it cant find the usb adapter03:11
jake_are you back, stlsaint?03:39
holsteinjake_: i have had decent luck with the gui for ndiswrapper03:44
jake_there is a gui?03:44
holsteingtk-ndis i think it is03:44
holsteinjake_: used to be under the system menu, back when menus were still around... it was called "windows wirelees drivers" or something like that03:45
jake_i have a thing on the bar on the side called windows wireless drivers, it brings up a thing titled wireless network drivers03:47
holsteinjake_: that sounds right... i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/#Installing_Windows_driver_using_ndisgtk_.28ndiswrapper_graphical_interface.2903:48
holsteinsorry for the nasty link...03:48
jake_says currently installed drivers: bcmn43xx32 hardware present: yes03:48
holsteinhttp://tinyurl.com/bvqhfen03:49
holsteinheres screenies of the tool im thinking of http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/46385/ ...pretty sure you are in the right place03:49
holsteini used to have a card that i just never could use otherwise... had to use the windows driver03:50
jake_yeah, thats what it looks like03:55
jake_i hit a snag at 3.5 from that link you sent03:55
jake_i type in sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it returns FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found03:56
holsteinjake_: these are all out-dated id say.... just point the GUI to the driver you know works, and see what happends03:56
holsteinhappens*03:56
jake_it gives the same error04:00
holsteinit?04:00
jake_the gui04:00
holsteinjake_: i literally pointed the GUI to the driver and it started working... are you sure you have the proper driver?04:00
jake_i think it is the right one.  the gui says "Module could not be loaded.  Error was: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.  Is the ndiswrapper module installed?"04:02
holsteinjake_: i would load it up in windows if you have it around, and make sure... or grab it from a windows install where you know its working04:04
holsteinOR, just try again from the site, and confirm... or grab a few and try them04:04
holsteini remember seeing errors til i found the right driver04:04
kannudois there a way to burn the latest version of ubuntu onto a single CD? the iso for it is 701 MB and as far as i know cd's only go to 700 MB...04:36
jake_i believe i have the usb adapter working, but it cannot connect, its acting like the password is bad05:36
Vampystlsaint, sorry bout that, i had to step away for a bit,05:40
Vampystlsaint, i'm still getting server config error when i telnet in on 25 when doing RCPT TO:blah05:45
Vampykannudo most standard cd at 700 will allow you to burn the ubuntu iso. i've not had an problems do such.05:50
stlsaintVampy: different errors?05:52
Vampystlsaint, doesnt seem to be05:53
Vampystlsaint, almost wish there was a different howto/tut on email server setup. this one seems to be a bit wordy, and not so much for the beginner05:55
stlsaintVampy: there is05:57
Vampystlsaint, happen to have the URL for it?05:57
Vampythese servers will not be production until i know the mail system is set properly05:58
stlsainthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers05:58
stlsaintthats one05:58
stlsainthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix05:58
stlsaint^^ postfix05:58
Vampyboth pages are loaded... looking thru them now06:00
Vampywhich MDA would you suggest?06:00
Vampystlsaint, if i want a system to "host" multple email domains (ie mail.example.com mail.burgerbarn.com mail.guns4celery.com) this would be virtual host/domains correct?06:04
peccyo o/ tried out Disk Usage Analyser but it's lying to me... there's no way in hell my main drive capacity is ~200 GB06:06
pecc"Total filesystem capacity" that is...?06:06
Vampypecc: what are you tryin to find out?06:07
peccjust my main drive capacity/usage, without all the extra I have connected via USB06:08
peccso I disconnected my HDD reader and bam the readings are way more sensible06:08
peccbut what I'd like to know is, how do I make DUA read only my main drive and ignore the other drives without having to manually disconnect them every time?06:09
Vampyhave you looked through the options to see if u can tell it which drives to look for and report on?06:10
Vampy^^ would be if your using the GUI DUA06:11
pecchmmmm alright there are options then... I didn't have it fully open so I had missed those06:13
peccwill look06:13
peccalright, found it, 30 GB sounds way more reasonable06:14
peccthanks o/06:14
Vampyno prob06:14
Vampystlsaint, i believe im gonna try those ubuntu community setups instead of flurdy's setup, will give this a break for the night, 3 days of working with no positive results tends to wear the nerves thin lol06:17
Vampyi'll hop in tomorrow if i run in to any problems or if things work, i do apprecaite all the help.06:18
peccok back for more... did sudo apt-get update... finishes with "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"06:21
peccsecond update returns the same error06:22
yam_whats LAMP? is it software for proxy hosting?06:31
bioterror!lamp | yam_06:33
ubot2yam_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:33
yam_Thanks ubot :)06:34
stlsaintpecc: well we need the full error06:52
peccReading package lists... Done06:53
peccW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)06:53
peccW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.spotify.com/ stable/non-free i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)06:53
peccW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems06:53
stlsaintfunny im having a similar issue cept yours should be pretty easy to fix06:53
stlsaintpecc: edited your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove duplicate entries.06:53
peccomg I rememberes how to prompt gedit \o/06:55
pecchmmm there is no duplicate involving http://repository.spotify.com/ stable õ.õ06:57
peccand the other duplicate is commented out?06:59
stlsaintpecc: also check your sources.list.d/07:11
peccit's empty?07:14
stlsaintpecc: it could also be under /var/lib/apt/lists07:16
Playerhi everyone07:21
pecchmm it's a directory, what command should I use?07:22
peccstlsaint?07:46
Minkshey there ???18:36
Minksnyone there ??18:37
Minkshellooo ??18:38
Minkshey...18:39
Minksms_daisy18:39
ms_daisyyou made it! \o/  Just ask your question and someone will answer if they can help.18:39
MinksI am having problems with my Ubuntu installation...18:40
MinksI've just installed ubuntu 12.04...18:40
Minksalongside Windows 7...18:40
MinksBut now I am unable to boot inside Win 718:40
MinksI cant figure out the prob...18:41
wilee-nileeMinks, have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?18:41
MinksCan someone help me out please....18:41
MinksYa I did that...18:41
ms_daisyDid you defragment before you installed Ubuntu?18:41
MinksStill without luck !!18:41
wilee-nileeMinks, did you remove the boot partition from windows or resize it with the ubuntu install?18:42
MinksI made a seperate partition of around 10GB in Windows 7 for ubuntu...18:42
wilee-nileeMinks, this was a ubuntu install from windows a wubi18:42
MinksI believe I did not do that...18:42
MinksNo no...18:42
MinksI downloaded it from the Ubuntu website,18:42
Minksburned it into a cd18:42
Minksand then went on with the installation...18:43
wilee-nileethe made a partition in windows is a bit confusing windows does not make ext type partitions18:43
wilee-nileeDid you remove a partition in widows?18:44
MinksYa but then I formated it into ext 4 while installing Ubuntu...18:44
MinksI am a very basic begginer in Ubuntu guys...18:44
stlsaintMinks: im going to give you a link to a script, download and run the script, then paste the output of the RESULTS.txt file into paste.ubuntu.com and then give the url here18:44
stlsaintMinks: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/18:44
wilee-nileeMinks, Ah, so there was a unallocated space for ubuntu how did you have the unallocated18:45
wilee-nileeviva the bootscript it can actually be installed it is in gthe repos and then run.18:45
Minkswilee-nilee I didnt get u ??18:47
stlsaintwilee-nilee: im on debian ;)18:47
MinksI am sorry but bootinfo script is not running on my Ubuntu installation...18:48
MinksI am getting error messages " No such directory " !!18:48
stlsaintMinks: what command are you running18:49
Minkssudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh18:49
stlsaintMinks: did you download to the desktop or the downloads folder??18:50
MinksI downloaded it to the downloads folder then for my my convinience I copied it to my desktop...18:51
stlsaintMinks: not sure what is going on but run command18:51
stlsaintcd Desktop18:51
stlsaintsudo bash boot_info_script.sh18:51
Minksstill the error message " No such directory "18:54
Minkssaurabh@saurabh-Studio-1555:~$ cd Desktop saurabh@saurabh-Studio-1555:~/Desktop$ sudo bash boot_info_script.sh [sudo] password for saurabh:  bash: boot_info_script.sh: No such file or directory saurabh@saurabh-Studio-1555:~/Desktop$18:55
MinksCan u tell me the exact command if I downloaded it to the downloads folder ??18:56
stlsaintMinks: instead of changing into desktop then go into the downloads folder18:58
stlsaintif you are still in the desktop folder than enter command: cd ../Downloads18:58
stlsaintthen run bash command.18:59
MinksI am still getting the same error messages !!19:01
MinksAny other way to check out the partiton drives ??19:02
stlsaintMinks: did you download the file?19:02
Minksya...19:02
MinksIt is showing in my downloads folder...19:03
stlsaintMinks: what is the externsion on it19:03
stlsaintextension on it19:03
Minks.tar.gz19:03
Minksbootinfoscript-061.tar.gz19:04
Minksthis is the full name....19:04
stlsaint>.<19:04
stlsainttar -xvvf bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz19:05
Minks??19:05
stlsaintMinks: right click the tar file and select to extract it.19:06
stlsaintthen the bash command will work19:06
MinksI did that already...19:06
MinksI extracted it in the same downloads folder...19:06
stlsaintMinks: so it is there19:07
stlsaintnevermind19:07
stlsaintjust install it omg19:07
stlsaintenter command:19:07
stlsaintsudo apt-get install boot-info-script19:08
Minksya done with that...19:09
stlsaintMinks: the file came out wrong i see19:09
Minksnw ??19:09
stlsaintMinks: wasnt your fault.19:09
MinksOhk !!19:09
stlsaintMinks: the file name is bootinfoscript....so run command in the Downloads folder...or wherever you installed it: sudo bootinfoscript19:10
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stlsaintMinks: you should see it run and it will show where it put the output data19:11
stlsaintMinks: did it run?19:12
Minksya got the results.txt file...19:12
Minks:)19:12
Minksshall I paste the contents of the same here ??19:12
stlsaintdid it say it put it in /root/19:13
stlsaintoh no19:13
stlsaintpaste.ubuntu.com19:13
stlsaintthen give the url here after you paste19:13
Minkshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1141682/19:14
Minksthere u go...19:14
stlsaintMinks: were you trying to remove windows?19:17
MinksNo no  not at all...19:17
stlsaint...19:17
stlsaintone sec19:17
Minksok...19:19
stlsaintMinks: well, as i suspected it looks like you erased windows19:21
MinksOMG !!!19:21
stlsaintMinks: but you now have linux :D19:21
MinksAnyway I can get it repaired ??19:21
stlsaintMinks: repaired no....reinstalled yes19:21
MinksI was trying to dual boot it...19:22
Calahan_histo, any tips or tutorials how can I create user who can only sftp to certain folder and prevent him from being able to use ssh. Thanks in advance!19:22
stlsaintyou have a recovery partition on your drive.19:22
stlsaintCalahan_: you mean a remote user who can only enter a server via sftp folder?19:22
stlsaintMinks: bad news also is if you do a re-install your going to wipe your other partitions19:23
ms_daisyMinks, if you reinstall windows, I suggest you take a look at this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot19:23
stlsaintMinks: so films, misc and anything else will be wiped19:23
Calahan_stlsaint i mean user who can connect with sftp and is restricted to for examle folder /test only and cannot use ssh access19:23
MinksOMG !!!19:23
ms_daisyback it up now Minks . Do you know how to do that?19:24
MinksSo there is no ohter way by which I can get my windows back even if it has to be via reinstalling wthout effecting my other drives ??19:24
stlsaintMinks: well thats if you use the recovery partition19:25
MinksI dont have that much of a memory space to back up all my data !!19:25
ms_daisyDo you have some recovery CDs of Windows Minks ?19:25
stlsaintMinks: cds will prevent you from losing it all if you choose another partition19:25
MinksAaaannnnn I am afraid I dont....19:25
stlsaintMinks: if you can get official re-install cd's then you can use them cd's to tell windows to install over the linux partition not touching your other partitions...19:26
MinksOnly I have the DVDs that came alongside with my laptop...19:26
stlsaintMinks: oh19:26
stlsaintMinks: check those DVD's maybe a reinstall disk is amongst them19:26
ms_daisyYou have options to backup your existing data Minks .  You could upload it to a cloud-based service like amazon.19:26
MinksI have a original Win 7 DVD with me...19:26
stlsaintCalahan_: oh yea thats easy, one esc19:26
nothingspecialMinks before you do anything, get a hard drive or some dvds or whatever and back your stuff up19:27
MinksOkeys...19:27
MinksWill an original WIn 7 DVD help me reinstall windows over Linux ??19:27
nothingspecialMinks: if you start messing about with recovery tools you stand a chance of loosing the lot19:27
stlsaintCalahan_: maybe this can get you started19:28
MinksWithout touching the other drives ??19:28
Calahan_stlsaint yes plz lin it19:28
Calahan_*link19:28
stlsainthttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/rhel-centos-linux-install-configure-rssh-shell.html19:28
stlsaintMinks: yea it should19:28
nothingspecialMinks: yes19:29
stlsaintMinks: but again IF you go touching the RECOVERY partition then you run a major risk (if not an absolute risk) of wiping the entire drive19:29
MinksOkay !! Then ow do I go about it ??19:29
stlsaintMinks: Get the win7 dvd installer19:29
MinksNo I wont touch the recovery partition...19:30
stlsaintMinks: take your time here and do some very thorough research seeing as a lack of it got you in this in the first place19:30
ms_daisy+119:30
MinksYa...19:31
MinksThank for the tip man...19:31
Minks:)19:31
Minksthankx...19:31
stlsaintMinks: if you have a external hard drive then use it, or borrow one from a friend. After everything is backed up you can then use the RECOVERY and get a fresh start19:31
stlsaintthe recovery will wipe all paritions but you will get a change to start over and layout your drive in a solid way19:31
Calahan_stlsaint ok thanks i'll look into rssh19:32
MinksI think I dont need to use the recovery partition partion if I intent to reinstall windows 7 in the first place over linux ??19:32
ms_daisyThe recovery partition will replace windows over the whole drive I believe.19:32
stlsaintms_daisy: yes it will19:32
stlsaintMinks: in that case, no you do not need to touch recovery19:33
MinksNow I think I shall go for the normal installation of windows 7 ??19:34
MinksOr is there anything else I should do ??19:34
stlsaintpray :D19:34
ms_daisyBut you're backing up your data first, right Minks ?19:34
Minks:P In these moments... !!!19:35
MinksI am afraid I wont be able be able to back up all my data coz I have an external HDD but even that is almst full !!19:35
ms_daisyUse a cloud service. Borrow an external HDD from a friend. Use DVDs. There are options Minks19:36
ms_daisyBut once it's gone, it's gone.19:36
MinksYa I knw !! :(19:37
MinksNyways I'll back it up...19:37
ms_daisyyay!19:38
ms_daisyGood call.19:38
MinksAnd then go ahead with the installation of Win 7 with a dvd hoping it'll not effect my other HDD partitions !!19:38
ms_daisyIt will. Windows installs on an entire hard drive.19:39
MinksOh !!19:39
MinksNyways thanku so much for your help ms_daisy19:40
Minks:)19:40
Minksreally appretiate it...19:40
ms_daisygood luck Minks . Make sure to do all the research and go slow for the best results.19:40
MinksYa...19:40
MinksThankx buddy...19:40
stlsaintMinks: dropbox is your friend:19:41
Minks:)19:41
MinksOh ya dropbox...19:41
* stlsaint uses 102GB for $10 a month19:41
MinksAlmst forgot about it !!19:41
MinksNice...19:41
stlsaintall my computers and servers could crash and i wouldn't miss a beat. Multiple cloud providers for storage FTW!!!19:42
Calahan_stlsaint i seem to can't jail user with /usr/bin/rssh, not sure what i doing wrong :(  either user can browse everywhere or cant log at all wtih sftp20:00
Calahan_if i get it right i set jail in /etc/rssh.conf20:01
upalipsuhello20:51
stlsaintupalipsu: hello21:00
stlsaintCalahan: what setup are you using?21:00
Calahanstlsaint well i'm obviously too lame to set up properly chroot for rssh21:11
CalahanI try this post and it did work with small modification http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot21:12
Calahanbut it is not using rssh21:13
Calahananyhow big thanks21:13
Calahani sometimes have to work with russian language files, i basicly see only some alien language like this ŠŠ¾Š¹ Ń ŃŠµŠ½ŃŃ 2 Š ŠµŠ²Š°Š½Ń, is there any way to see Cyrillic in ubuntu file system?21:26
Calahanany tips for this matter?21:29
stlsaintCalahan: use google translate site21:30
Calahanyou cannot translate that21:31
Calahani mean its not issue of translating21:32
Calahani don't know maybe have to use convmv21:38
Calahanhave to go now see you tomorrow21:39
CowadlinaCan anybody tell me how to set up 'push to talk' key in TS3 please<21:44
Cowadlinait basicaly wont record any key I press21:45
basil60Hi wondering if anyone can provide advice on why my server (124.254.81.40) appears to work when I run tests across the web, but doesn't serve any pages? It's running on ubuntu 11.0421:52
upalipsuhi again22:15
upalipsuI'm having an issue with installing windows on my hdd, I tried to see if I could get windows vista to make a partition during the setup and it needs to be formatted on NTFS, can I run windows virtually?22:17
upalipsuscratch that, I'm gonna try to stay mainly on linux22:20
upalipsu stlsaint, i have a question relating to ubuntu and it's theoretical abilities22:42
upalipsuis it possible, once fammilar with the linux language, to customize and run any program you wish? I hope to one day have a set up with corel painter and a fully functioning cintiq running alongside a laptop. Do you believe this is possible?22:45
stlsaintupalipsu: anything is possible22:51
stlsaintlearn the kernel and drivers well enough :D22:52
stlsaintand some bash, C++, python, perl and maybe even the D language ;)22:52
upalipsuWoah, that's quite a list. Challenge accepted.22:54
upalipsumay I ask where a good place to start is?22:54
stlsaintbash22:56
upalipsuThanks :)23:02
upalipsuquestion- for bash23:16
upalipsu#!/bin/bash         is this line required for working with bash?23:17
stlsaintupalipsu: that is called the shebang, shows what to use when running the script23:21
upalipsushebang23:21
upalipsuwhat does it show?23:22
upalipsudoes it visualize a directory?23:25
stlsaintupalipsu: bin/bash is your default shell23:27
upalipsuso bash is a GNU Bourne-Again SHell23:27
stlsaintnot a directory, binary23:28
upalipsuno man entry for GNU23:28
upalipsuwhat's a Shell?23:31
upalipsuI got it, a CLI program23:32
upalipsuhttp://linux.about.com/od/linux101/a/desktop11.htm   reading this23:33
stlsaintupalipsu: here is a program a couple of us on the team work on: https://launchpad.net/clicompanion/23:37
stlsaintupalipsu: follow instructions on page to install from ppa23:37
stlsaintnewest code23:37

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