[01:39] <binarymutant> I'm always surprised to see stuff on the mailing list :D
[01:44] <binarymutant> am I netsplitted?
[01:45] <altg3ke> if you are, I am too
[01:45] <binarymutant> lol ok
[01:55] <binarymutant> <--right now--  ninja make
[03:02] <Mighty_P> binarymutant, how large is your base system again? I got mine down to 1.7gbs containing mostly libs
[03:02] <Mighty_P> 1.9gb* I mean
[03:03] <Mighty_P> which isn't bad considering I have gnome, and some gnome basic apps
[03:08] <binarymutant> mine keeps going up :P
[03:08] <binarymutant> 3.5 right now
[03:10] <binarymutant> the problem is I start small and then just start adding things left and right until I run out of room
[03:11] <netritious> seems reasonable binarymutant
[03:12] <binarymutant> well my wm is only 36k and doesn't have any dependencies
[03:12] <binarymutant> so in my eyes 3.5Gb is overboard
[03:13] <binarymutant> ** doesn't have any depends execpt for Xorg
[03:13] <binarymutant> except, jeeze it's the weekend
[03:14] <binarymutant> in my mind my "base system" should be less than 1Gb
[03:15] <Mighty_P> yeah that seems like a reasonable assumption
[03:16] <binarymutant> but it's at 3.5Gb right now :(
[03:16] <Mighty_P> well I deleted /usr/share/gtk-doc ... because its pointless, and used localepurge to remove a bunch of locales I don't need
[03:16] <Mighty_P> but ultimately as long as I can run totem and it plays videos I don't care so much lol
[03:17] <binarymutant> mplayer is smaller and doesn't require gtk
[03:17] <Mighty_P> I just sometimes browse the internet over on this computer and use it as a jukebox
[03:17] <Mighty_P> yeah, but totem is <3
[03:17] <Mighty_P> for some reason I don't have the normal crush on vlc like most people...
[03:17] <binarymutant> neither do I
[03:17] <binarymutant> all mplayer all the time
[03:17] <Mighty_P> lol
[03:18] <binarymutant> for some reason I just can't stop myself from installing bloat, like gtk and qt
[03:19] <Mighty_P> lol
[03:19] <binarymutant> ah and 1Gb of '/' is urbanterror, I forgot I installed that systemwide
[03:20] <binarymutant> and I installed free pascal which took a lot of space, so did python ruby perl and the other languages I have on here
[03:21] <Mighty_P> I haven't played urt in forever
[03:21] <binarymutant> I can't without nvidia drivers :(
[03:21] <binarymutant> downlaoded it for no reason :(
[03:22] <binarymutant> so is 2.5Gb with everything?
[03:23] <Mighty_P> that isn't too bad
[03:23] <binarymutant> or do you have 2.5Gb + a whole bunch of other stuff
[03:25] <binarymutant> Mighty_P: err 1,9Gb, is that all your using on / ?
[03:32] <Mighty_P> yeah
[03:32] <binarymutant> crazy
[03:32] <Mighty_P> /home is different, like 33gbs of ponies
[03:33] <Mighty_P> I have two different drives on this computer.. kind of ghetto rigged and thrown together
[03:33] <binarymutant> is it your main machine?
[03:34] <Mighty_P> 40 main hdd with /, a 10gb partition for / and the rest is an empty partition, /home is an 80gb? laptop hdd just dangling in my case...
[03:34] <Mighty_P> nah, this is my old computer which is a backup but I use it to play videos when I go to sleep
[03:35] <binarymutant> ah ok
[03:35] <binarymutant> my other machine uses 0 bytes :P
[03:35] <Mighty_P> when I reinstalled I pretty much left the partition table alone and rm -rf'd / and reinstalled lol
[03:35] <Mighty_P> o.O
[03:36] <binarymutant> (it doesn't exist)
[03:36] <binarymutant> yeah I did that too, sort of
[03:36] <binarymutant> same partition table but I did format /
[03:38] <binarymutant> if I could change my partitions without losing data, I'd make / like 1Gb and run everything from /home
[03:38] <Juzzy> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/487655_10150969766577601_1272121712_n.jpg
[03:39] <binarymutant> Juzzy: awesome surface piercing
[03:39] <Juzzy> talk about a ring that's forever
[03:39] <binarymutant> actually those surface piercings usually get pushed out
[03:39] <Juzzy> looks painful heh
[03:39] <Mighty_P> oh lol
[03:40] <Mighty_P> well my 10gb / is probably too big... but I"ll resize it if I need to later, my main system is like 8gbs for / I think
[03:40] <Mighty_P> total partition of 15gbs
[03:40] <binarymutant> a 15Gb hdd?
[03:41] <Juzzy> we do like 1gb /
[03:41] <Mighty_P> no, 15gb partition
[03:41] <Juzzy> 256m /tmp
[03:41] <Mighty_P> my partition table for my other comp is complicated
[03:41] <binarymutant> oh
[03:41] <Juzzy> then a big /var
[03:41] <binarymutant> a big /var?
[03:41] <binarymutant> why?
[03:41] <Juzzy> but you're prolly on a desktop, so you need /home too
[03:41] <Juzzy> servers use /var
[03:41] <binarymutant> oh a server
[03:41] <Juzzy> /var/lib/mysql
[03:41] <Juzzy> etc
[03:42] <Juzzy> I didn't know there was any other use for linux? :D
[03:42] <binarymutant> :P
[03:42] <Juzzy> har har
[03:42] <binarymutant> I didn't know there was any other OSs
[03:43] <binarymutant> Juzzy: so you just have / and /var table?
[03:43] <Juzzy> no
[03:43] <Juzzy> /
[03:44] <Juzzy> /var
[03:44] <Juzzy> /tmp
[03:44] <Juzzy> /usr
[03:44] <Juzzy> usr is 2.6gb
[03:44] <Juzzy> or there abouts
[03:44] <Juzzy> / is 1gb, but can be trimmed if needed
[03:44] <binarymutant> doesn't actually make sense to me :/
[03:44] <Juzzy> we used to roll our linux boxes at 2.6gb total base partitions
[03:45] <binarymutant> why put usr on a different partition?
[03:45] <Juzzy> works great until you forget to purge old kernels after upgrade
[03:45] <Juzzy> good practice to seperate your partitions
[03:46] <Juzzy> so you dont have stupid script kill /tmp
[03:46] <Juzzy> or a daemon kill /var/log
[03:46] <Juzzy> and effect other critical areas
[03:46] <binarymutant> hm
[03:46] <Juzzy> think about someone flooding your apache and filling you hdd
[03:47] <Juzzy> corrupting all sorts of fun stuff
[03:47] <binarymutant> ok
[03:47] <Juzzy> that's why we seperate our partitions
[03:48] <Mighty_P> I kind of knew about that, another reason I can think of, some file systems can do certain tasks better if you wanted to get real serious with it
[03:49] <binarymutant> Juzzy: couldn't you achieve the same effect by just having / /var and /tmp?
[03:53] <Mighty_P> brb
[04:03] <Juzzy> ya, u can
[04:03] <Juzzy> if u wanna share /usr and /lib and /root
[04:04] <Juzzy> dev/mapper/main-root
[04:04] <Juzzy>                       291M  153M  124M  56% /
[04:04] <Juzzy> hah less than i thought
[04:05] <Juzzy> /dev/mapper/main-tmp  124M  5.6M  113M   5% /tmp
[04:05] <Juzzy> /dev/mapper/main-usr  1.7G  795M  821M  50% /usr
[04:05] <Juzzy> /dev/mapper/main-var   14G  9.4G  3.4G  74% /var
[04:05] <Juzzy> that's a prod box
[04:06] <Juzzy> so /var/tomcat6 is big
[04:06] <binarymutant> 291M? wow
[04:06] <binarymutant> just tomcat&apache?
[04:06] <binarymutant> just a lamp stack ? *
[04:13] <Mighty_P> that took a little longer than I wanted
[04:13] <Mighty_P> this compy, on another note, I didn't know gnome-terminal could full screen
[04:22] <binarymutant> hmm I'm thinking / could be read only
[04:24] <Mighty_P> o.o
[04:25] <binarymutant> Mighty_P: idk :D
[17:42] <netritious> CAN HAS NETSPLITS?
[17:47] <netritious> seems you only get those when you don't ask for them
[18:16] <wrst> ha ha
[18:16] <wrst> when are you not asking for them netritious?
[18:28] <netritious> LOL wrst
[18:29] <wrst> howdy netritious how you doing?
[18:33] <netritious> arguing with wife LOL
[18:44] <Unit193> That won't end well... :P
[19:00] <netritious> Unit193: sure it will...always does ;)
[19:02] <netritious> really it was nothing serious just my wife and I are both fairly opinionated and generally stubbourn
[19:08] <netritious> so how's everyone doing today?
[19:13] <netritious> http://xkcd.com/1086/ .. I like Feb 27th entry.
[19:29] <wrst> ha ha netritious just saw your argument comments :)