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Kilosmorning all06:21
=== Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero
queeryhi guys08:19
* superfly is enjoying his Kindle Fire08:21
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Symmetriahrm10:54
Symmetriaanyone here happen to have dealership accounts with rectron or pinnacle?10:54
Symmetria(or any of the other big wholesalers)10:55
Symmetriahrm, no one awake?11:18
charlvnhi Symmetria 12:01
charlvnused to have a rectron dealership but that was like 10 years ago12:01
charlvnlol12:01
charlvnhi smile 12:01
charlvnMaaz: coffee on12:01
* Maaz washes some mugs12:01
smilehi charlvn :)12:03
smile:D12:03
charlvnhow's it going12:03
charlvnhi kodez 12:03
kodezhi charlvn, how are you12:04
charlvni'm good thanks12:04
kodezgreetings everyone12:04
charlvnjust tired, came back from biking around12:04
charlvnand you?12:04
kodezi am better than yesterday, thanks for asking.12:04
kodezI am taking a few minutes break and will be doing JavaScript12:05
charlvnnice12:05
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!12:05
charlvni need to do some python but i need to talk to some java classes so probably going to use jython12:05
charlvnMaaz: thanks!12:05
Maazcharlvn: No problem12:05
kodezI am listening to  SAFM too, and am enjoying Richard Mwamba's show12:06
charlvnok lemme put on safm12:09
charlvnit has been years since i have listened to it12:09
charlvninternet radio ftw :)12:09
Kiloshi guys12:09
charlvnhi Kilos 12:10
charlvnhow's it going12:10
Kilosfrustrated12:10
kodezno, on radio. i don't have megabytes to listen it online12:10
kodezhi kilos12:10
Symmetriaheh12:10
Symmetriagot sorted with one12:10
charlvnlol kodez 12:10
Kiloseven installed win7 to try get modem storage switched off12:10
Symmetriastill choking at the price of his machine12:10
Kilosdoesnt work either12:10
Kilosgrrr12:10
charlvnmodem storage?!12:11
charlvnwhat exactly are you trying to do Kilos 12:11
Kilosyeah modeswitch doesnt switch the thing so nm can see it12:11
Kiloswvdial doesnt even work12:12
Kilosonly sakis3g but then mail and mxit not working12:12
Kilosgrrr12:12
charlvnok listening to safm but some really crappy music on right now12:13
CanStudybuy a new modem?12:13
Kilosthe kill command for modem manager is sudo killall modem-manager hey?12:13
KilosCanStudy, no man it works on maverick and natty12:13
Kilosand on winsucks12:14
CanStudy:-S12:14
Symmetrialol12:14
Symmetriasomeone look at this machine specs12:14
Symmetriaand tell me if I forgot anything12:14
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/quote.pdf12:14
Symmetria(already have the keyboard/mouse/dvd writer)12:14
charlvnSymmetria: taking a look12:14
Symmetria:P dont die when you see the price12:15
KilosSymmetria, the comfy chair to sit on12:15
charlvnit's on a belgian domain but the price is in rands?12:15
Symmetriacharlvn I just copied it there :)12:15
CanStudyo_o12:15
Symmetriaand yes, I threw in a copy of windows 7 in there because my parents need a legit copy :P12:15
CanStudyyou forgot the defibrillator that you'll need to revive him with when he sees the price :<12:16
charlvnSymmetria: i see most of the cost is just the cpu and gpu12:16
charlvnbut not too unreasonable for a high end machine12:16
Symmetriaheh the gpu, cpu and the cost of the ram12:16
charlvnstill does look a little expensive though12:16
Symmetriathe psu is also pushing up the price12:17
Symmetriacharlvn heh, thats dealer pricing sadly, you dont wanna see the quotes I had for the same from a normal computer store :p12:17
charlvnoh no this music on safm is so bad it's killing me, closing the stream12:17
charlvni can never remember that safm used to have such bad music in the past12:17
Symmetriaheh charlvn that gpu in there is... completely sick :)12:17
Symmetriathere is nothing on the market that can touch that12:18
charlvnlol yeah i bet12:18
charlvnfor that price it better be :P12:18
charlvnway too high end for me, i bought my new laptop at 400 euro12:18
Kiloscharlvn, try 702 on sat and sundays12:20
Kilosor jacaranda12:21
charlvnok lemme see12:21
charlvnoh yeah talk radio, nice12:21
Symmetriawtf is with 5fm and their music choice lately 12:21
Symmetriathey need to die 12:21
Kilos702 has golden oldies weekends after 10am12:21
Symmetriaalgoa aint 2 bad when im driving, but most of the time I do internet radio from my amp12:21
Symmetria(thats probably the best feature of my amp, the fact that it downloads and offers you 2.5k internet radio stations ordered by genre, name, language, location or anything else)12:22
charlvnweird, i opened the 702 stream in vlc and all i'm getting is the intro12:23
charlvnin a loop even12:23
charlvnjacaranda works nicely though12:24
charlvnoh they have a flash player12:24
charlvna friend of mine uses satellite radio12:25
charlvnin his car12:25
Kiloscharlvn, you didnt tell me if that killall is right for modem manager12:27
charlvnoh no bad music now on jacaranda too12:27
charlvnbah switching to veronica12:27
charlvnKilos: sorry i have no idea, it's been a while since i've used a 3g modem12:27
Kilossaw one link where they said kill modem manager then nm will see usb modem12:27
Kilosman modem manager kill not 3g modem12:28
CanStudyI use a 3G modem in 12.04 without any hassles :-S12:28
Kiloslol i cant find the site where i read that12:28
CanStudywell, it doesn't detect on startup, but after disabling and enabling networking it's fine12:28
Kiloshow you do that CanStudy 12:29
Kilosoh i tried that12:29
CanStudypress alt12:29
CanStudyoh12:29
Kilosno diffs12:29
CanStudy:<12:29
charlvnoh no even veronica has bad music today12:30
charlvnwhat the heck is going on on a saturday with the radio12:30
charlvnok, grooveshark time :)12:30
Kiloswhat does that alt thing do i see it says command12:30
CanStudyjust a menu12:30
CanStudytype stuff in there12:30
Kilosis it a terminal12:30
CanStudytype "net"12:30
CanStudythe available commands differ depending on what program is open12:31
CanStudyit's called the "HUD"12:31
CanStudyquite useful if you don't like your mouse (like me) and don't know many keyboard shortcuts12:31
Kilosdoesnt show hud12:32
CanStudy?12:32
Kiloshmmm sudo gnome-ppp works12:54
Kilosnow to try find how to make it auto restart12:55
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Kilos-hi Trixar_za 13:44
Trixar_zaHey Kilos-13:44
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
Kilossaki let me down today again13:45
Kilosno email and mxit13:45
Kilosyet it worked last night13:45
Kiloshows things your side13:45
Kilosim using gnome-ppp now13:45
Kilosbut gnome-ppp also no email or mxit13:46
Kilosmaybe i must do a fresh install13:46
Trixar_zaWeird13:46
Kilosi even tried the win7 trip13:47
Kiloshehe13:47
Kiloswhat a pain13:47
Trixar_zaWhat does ls -l /etc/resolv.conf say?13:47
Kilossec i see13:47
Kiloslrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug  7 14:56 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf13:48
Kiloshehe does that mean something to you13:48
Trixar_zaJust that anybody can use and write to it13:49
Kilosor will it still give an answer13:49
Trixar_zaIt's what your system uses to resolve domain names to IPs13:49
Trixar_zaso you can connect to stuff13:49
Kilosoh it doesnt go look for conflicts and fix them13:51
Trixar_zabrenton@trixarian:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf13:52
Trixar_zanameserver 196.43.34.19013:52
Trixar_zanameserver 196.43.46.19013:52
Trixar_zashould look something like that13:52
Kilosi need a tool that can do that13:52
Kilosoh my13:52
Kilosill run it again13:53
Trixar_zaSometimes ppp has an error in it that changed /etc/resolv.conf permission so only root can use it. Which makes stuff not work13:53
Trixar_zachanges*13:53
Kilosah13:53
Trixar_zaWell, it works, but only for root13:53
Trixar_zaWhich is why I asked13:53
Symmetriagod13:54
Symmetriamy parents are so clueless as to what stuff is worth these days13:54
Kilosso is root got control here13:54
SymmetriaI asked my dad if I could borrow a pair of cuff links to use on a dress shirt I had13:54
Trixar_zaNo, your resolv.conf file is open to everybody, so it's probably not that13:54
Symmetriaso he's like, yeah, I got these for my 21st, they probably pretty crappy, but you can have em, I've never used em in 47 years of having em13:54
Symmetria.... he thought they were worth like 100 bux...13:55
SymmetriaI was like... dad... those are *gold* and they have fancy inlays... and thats dress jewellery, thats gonna be worth a fortune, he's like, bullshit13:55
Symmetriaso I went and checked at the jeweler...13:55
Symmetria45 thousand bux :p13:55
Symmetriahe almost died13:56
Symmetria:p13:56
Trixar_za>.>13:56
* Trixar_za swipes13:56
Symmetriaheh13:57
Symmetriaparents are just clueless as to the price of things these days13:58
Symmetrialike, LOL, someone broke in and stole my moms wedding ring and engagement ring and some other jewelery13:58
Symmetriaand shes like, dammit, probably about 10 grands worth13:58
Symmetriaputs in an insurance claim...13:58
Symmetriainsurance comes back and says, we wont pay cash, you gotta go actually buy replacements, but we've told the jeweler you have 95 thousand bux to spend13:58
SymmetriaLOL13:58
Symmetriahaha so she got a new enagement ring and locked it in my safe and has never worn it cause she's 2 scared to wear it13:59
charlvnlol it's the insane inflation14:04
Kiloshmm14:05
Symmetrialol14:10
Symmetriaits like my parents dining room table14:10
SymmetriaI told my dad, get that thing insurance assessed, you have no idea what its worth14:10
Symmetriahe's like, its a fuckin wooden table, how much can it possibly be worth14:11
SymmetriaIm like, errr, THATS STINKWOOD, you cant even legally chop down stinkwood trees anymore, the only reason that table is legal is because its old 14:11
Symmetriahe's like fine, get it assessed14:11
Symmetria... 100 grand table :p14:11
Symmetriahe's like "Maybe I should sell it?!"14:11
SymmetriaIm like, since you're always broke, maybe thats a good idea :p14:12
charlvnhahaha14:14
charlvnwhat's up with all these farming games14:14
KilosSymmetria, you talking bout these kinda things14:14
Kiloshttp://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img571/4987/image0031t.jpg14:14
charlvnwhy don't people go live on a real farm if they are so desperate to grow stuff14:14
Kilosthey kinda heavy14:15
charlvnKilos: what is that? gold cufflinks?14:15
Kilosi think so14:15
Kilosdo they have stamps on somewhere like rings?14:16
Kilosall i find is anson pat pend14:18
Kilosnow where is Symmetria 14:19
Kiloshe get my thinktank going and now disappears14:21
Kilosmaybe if im lucky i can get a plane ticket outa them bits and pieces14:22
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KilosSymmetria, ping14:28
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charlvnKilos: i think you will need to take them to a jeweler to get an reasonable estimate of how they are worth15:01
charlvn*how much15:01
Kilosah ty15:01
Kilosjust wanted to know if thats the kinda stuff he is talking about15:02
Kilosor are his very different15:02
charlvnyeah, sorry i'm pretty useless in this regard, i own no jewelry15:04
Kilosme neither till now15:08
Kiloslol15:08
Kilosjust remembered heirloom stuff15:08
Kilosim pretty without jewelery on15:09
Kilosnuvolari, jou heli is moeg nou15:10
Squirmhello15:26
Kiloshi Squirm 15:26
Kiloshi psydroid 15:56
psydroidhi Kilos15:56
psydroidhi Squirm15:57
Kilosbb a bitlater16:11
smilehi :)16:22
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Kilosshame poor sharks gotta play in penguin weather17:08
* Squirm shrugs17:18
SquirmThey'll win anyway17:18
Kilosi hope so17:18
Kilosweather very sucky there in fly valley17:18
smileKilos: :DD17:25
smilehttp://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aircrack-ng&diff=32277915&oldid=3171499917:25
Kilosyo smile 17:26
smileyou like my edit? :)17:27
Kilosi didnt go look17:28
Kiloslooking rugger and thinking what to make for supper17:28
KilosMaaz, whats for supper17:29
MaazA nice thick homemade  oxtail and vegetable soup for starters and then Spaghetti bolognaise17:29
Kiloshmmm soupd would be good now17:29
smileKilos: ok :p17:29
Kiloswhats it about smile??17:30
smileKilos: I've written that :) Wanted to know if you like it :p17:35
smilethere is one image on that page17:35
Kiloslol17:35
Kiloswhat is it about17:35
Kiloswhy didnt you write it in english man17:38
Kilosor zulu17:38
Kilossomething about security of wireless networks17:39
Kilos?17:39
charlvnlol Kilos, the wikipedia is international17:47
Kilosya but why get me to read dutch17:48
Kilosmore english speakers in the word17:49
Kilosworld as well17:49
charlvnyeah this is a question for #ubuntu-nl more than for this channel17:49
charlvnsmile: good edit though17:49
Kiloshehe17:49
Kiloshe likes to rattle my brain17:50
smilecharlvn: thanks :)17:52
smile^^17:52
smilecharlvn: or #wikipedia-nl17:52
smilebut they're dead over there17:52
smile:p17:52
charlvnhehe17:53
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charlvnMaaz: coffee on17:54
* Maaz washes some mugs17:54
smilecharlvn: are you addicted to coffee ;)17:54
charlvnyup and tea17:54
charlvnwe should learn Maaz to make tea17:55
Kiloshe can17:55
Kiloskinda17:55
charlvnsmile: do you know teekanne?17:55
KilosMaaz, tea please17:55
MaazAs soon as the kettle boils I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already17:55
charlvnah nice17:55
smilecharlvn: where you put tea in? :p17:57
SquirmMaaz: coffee please17:57
MaazSquirm: Done17:57
charlvnsmile: lol no i mean the german company that produces herbal teas17:57
charlvngood stuff17:57
charlvni drink it at work17:57
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn and Squirm!17:58
charlvnMaaz: thanks17:58
Maazcharlvn: No problem17:58
Squirmyeeee17:58
* Squirm sips17:58
smilecharlvn: oh :D ^^ no, don't know them18:00
smile:)18:00
charlvnsmile: http://www.teekanne.de/18:00
smileI see :) german, easy understandable ^^18:02
smilethe woman on the cover is ugly, charlvn :p18:03
Kilosyou guys get rooibos there charlvn smile 18:03
smileI'm sure it's because of the tea :)18:03
Kiloshi not_found 18:04
not_foundhey unlce Kilos 18:05
Kiloswe found you, you can become neelsie again18:05
not_found:)18:05
smile;)18:05
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Kiloshahaha18:05
Kilosdag Neelsie gaan dit goed daar in die warm plek18:06
Squirmoh look at that18:06
Squirmit's time18:06
Squirmbbl18:06
NeelsieYup. Vriend het gister aand geland, begin nou ook hoer saam met my werk (wel, in 'n paar dae)18:07
Kilosaha18:07
charlvnKilos: yes it's the base for some of the teekanne teas actually, "rotbusch" they call it in german18:07
Kilosbetaal daai arabiere so goed18:07
charlvnKilos: you can also buy rooibos in most dutch shops except they rarely sell it plainly, usually with added herbs/spices/aromas18:07
NeelsieBetter than SA in any case (but not enough I feel somedays)18:08
Kilosah very healthy charlvn 18:08
Kilosthey still doing reserch on it and found lots more it is good for18:08
charlvnNeelsie: lol you said "hoer" instead of "hier"18:08
Kilosresearch18:08
charlvneasy mistake18:08
charlvnsmile: haha, nah just a bad choice of model18:09
Neelsiecharlvn: sorry about that... when in front of a PC I can't think in any language but english18:09
smilecharlvn: well I think so18:09
smile:p18:10
Kiloslolol18:10
charlvnsmile: the model probably never even drinks the tea herself :P18:10
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charlvnNeelsie: haha!18:10
charlvnKrokodil: are you the infamous "groot krokodil"? before he died he used to live there in wilderness close to where i used to live18:11
Krokodilawesome18:11
Krokodilonly related18:11
Krokodilgot to go... be back later all :)18:11
Kilostoods lad18:11
charlvnsmile: in case you are wondering what that was about: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Willem_Botha18:12
smilecharlvn: thanks :) lot of text ^^18:13
smilePieter Willem Botha, P.W. of die Groot Krokodil (Paul Roux (Vrystaat) 12 Januarie 1916 - Wildernis naby George, 31 Oktober 2006) was van 1978 tot 1984 Eerste Minister en van 1984 tot 1989 staatspresident van Suid-Afrika. Van 1978 tot 1989 was hy ook leier van die Nasionale Party. :)18:13
charlvnfeel free to tl;dr, you just need to read the first paragraph to get the reference18:13
smileDie Afrikaanse bladsy kan ek ook verstaan :)18:13
charlvnnice, but when i google i always get the dutch version first18:14
charlvngoogle's geolocation18:14
charlvnbtw where is inetpro hiding these days, he is extremely silent18:15
charlvni miss him around here18:15
Kiloshe said he gonna be very busy for 2 weeks18:15
charlvnah i see18:16
Kiloswork school and kids i think18:16
charlvntalking about tea, there is this german instant lemon tea i drink made by this company: http://krueger-company.com/18:18
charlvni can't help but think about this guy when i drink it: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kruger18:19
charlvnthere is actually a restaurant in NL named after him: http://www.paulkruger.nl/18:20
charlvnanyway, bbl18:21
Kilosk18:21
smilebye :)18:34
Kilossleep tight smile 18:35
smilethanks :)18:36
Guest9431ey yall18:43
Kiloshi Guest9431 18:44
Kilosthis is a linux ubuntu help channel18:44
Kilosif you need help feel free to ask your question18:45
zerefhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/ubuntu-12-10-may-ship-with-older-but-more-featured-nautilus18:51
zerefhmm, interesting18:51
Kiloswish it would ship with an old nm and modeswitch that works18:52
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:04
Kilossigh21:27
Kilosjust dida clean install of 12.04. from the cd nm connects as before. after reboot no mobile broadband21:28
Kiloscli21:28
Kiloswhy arent you all asleep yet21:29
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