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minimecamr_: So you would have something in /media. What is the exact name of that partition?00:00
amr_minimec: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C00:01
blake_Can I make one an icon in Unity that shows cpu usage, or on the top bar? (Ubuntu 12.04)00:02
minimecamr_: I guess it would be better to do that once manually and add you config and mountpoint to /etc/fstab. Like that it will be the same on every boot. But it might work your way too.00:02
blake_How do I show cpu usage, network, etc on the dash?00:02
KatsumeBliskamr_: Is this live USB persistent? If not, minimec's fstab advice won't work.00:02
trismblake_: for the top panel (indicators) there is indicator-multiload00:03
digitigarrrghhh: is that -t nfs instead of -t nfs4?00:03
blake_trism thanks it's called "System Load Indicator" in Software Center.00:04
amr_it's persistent but I am putting the swap file on my main hard not my flash dirve00:04
arrrghhhdigitig, i believe so 1 sec00:04
digitigarrrghhh: if it is, it still times out.00:05
KatsumeBliskamr_: Yeah. Just making sure before you were editing settings on the USB. If it wasn't, you'd lose it after a reboot.00:05
arrrghhhdigitig, if that showmount command fails, you haven't setup NFS00:05
arrrghhhdigitig, http://www.virtues.it/2010/03/config-nfs-nas/00:05
minimecamr_: Let's create that file: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap bs=1M count=614400:05
trismblake_: noted00:05
minimecamr_: That should create a swap file on your win7 partition.00:06
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amr_minimec: I run the command00:07
amr_minimec: just blinking00:08
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minimecamr_: It takes time....00:08
arrrghhhdigitig, y'know what i mean?  have you configured NFS on the iomega doohickey?00:09
amr_minimec: 1M count=6144 6144+0 records in 6144+0 records out 6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 126.436 s, 51.0 MB/s00:09
amr_here is the result but when I write free I got 0 swap00:10
minimecamr_: Good ;)00:10
amr_shall I restart now?00:10
minimecamr_: Now we give it the correct permissions: sudo chmod 600 /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap00:10
amr_done00:11
minimecamr_: Then we define it as swap: sudo mkswap /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap00:11
minimecamr_: Finally we activate it: sudo swapon /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap00:11
amr_blinking00:12
amr_done00:13
amr_yes00:13
amr_now can I hibernate?00:13
amr_thanks a lot00:13
minimecamr_: So you should see that swap space in the system monitor. Check that now.00:14
W4spblake_: Did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745568. Apart from the WebUpD8 it seems to be what you are looking for?00:14
minimecamr_: gnome-system-monitor00:14
jhvcygd.00:14
amr_yes it's there00:14
minimecamr_: Nice ;)00:14
amr_minimec: and it's okay in the free command too, now can I hibernate?00:15
minimecamr_: you should find the hibernate option in the panel in the menu on the right sie on your screen.00:16
audstanleyhello all00:16
amr_minimec: no it's not there00:17
amr_minimec: log out : suspend : shut down00:17
amr_no hibernate00:17
minimecamr_: You're right... Hmmm. I use another windows manager (enlightenment e17). So I don't have that panel right now...00:18
minimecamr_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line00:19
blake_w4sp package 'indicator-sensors' and 'indicator-multiload' is exactly what I needed.00:19
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arrrghhhlol i was just going to linkg http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/pm-action.8.html minimec00:19
W4spblake_: well then. :-)00:19
blake_w4sp but THANKS!!00:19
amr_minimec: I am downloading something via software center right now, can I test the hibernate now?00:20
dok42Hey, does anyone have expirience with GLX not working on Intel graphics?00:20
minimecamr_: DOn't think so ... ;)00:20
minimecamr_: My idea now is, to make that working on every boot. KatsumeBlisk was right, that you need some persistent space on your USB stick for that. We would need to modify /etc/fstab.00:20
IPm4nTest00:21
mininessiewhat would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what00:21
minimecamr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 000:21
minimecamr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab00:22
mininessiei asked a qustion00:23
KatsumeBliskmininessie: Are your CPUs at 100% when doing that?00:23
KatsumeBlisk!patience | mininessie00:23
ubottumininessie: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:23
Kurbsteris there a way to track down what ubuntu did to a certain package to get it to work properly.  I am having a problem with bluetooth and the device class not being set correctly.  However, every other distro but Kubuntu has it fixed00:23
amr_minimec: how to do this (step bhy step) please00:23
minimecamr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab00:23
minimecamr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 000:23
brophatduring the latest kernel update today I got an error msg that dealing with the rt3090 driver it messed up do I want to send an error report blah blah. I got the same msg when i upgraded to 12.04. but everything seems to be working ok. should I just blow it off?00:24
amr_minimec: as last line?00:24
KatsumeBliskamr_: yes00:24
minimecamr_: That should do.00:24
amr_done00:24
arrrghhhyar00:24
minimecamr_: Will be right back. Getting myself a cigarette00:24
amr_minimec: sure thank you so far so much00:25
KatsumeBliskamr_: Make sure you save that file. :) Theoretically now it'll work with every boot. Wait until minimec comes back to test though. ;)00:25
W4spKurbster: In /var/log are log files dpkg.log. Please note that these logs rotate and you will find archives of old ones too.00:25
thrivethHi channel - this may be a silly question, but I've googled and searched and found nothing. I'm trying to transfer a file via bluetooth from my phone to my Ubuntu laptop. Both phone and laptop say the transfer is going on, and when it ends, the Ubuntu tells me the file has been succesfully received, but it is nowhere to be found. Where is it?00:26
digitigarrrghhh: I've not gone away -- googling stuff...00:26
arrrghhhdigitig, sorry was that guide no bueno?  where you at?00:27
W4spthriveth: Did you check the usual suspects, such as Downloads, your Desktop?00:27
thrivethW4sp, yes but I found it through a file search, it was in the "Public folder even though I'd specifically set it to go in Downloads folder. Oh, well. Sorry for false alarm.00:29
pfhola00:29
arrrghhh!es | pf00:29
ubottupf: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:29
digitigarrrghhh: I've enabled NFS on the NAS (boy, did they bury the information on *that* deep in the manual! And the instructions to get to the setting were wrong). It's still not working, but I'm going to go through the steps I've already tried, to see if they work better now the drive understands NAS.00:30
mininessiewhat would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what00:30
arrrghhhdigitig, ok.  that showmount command is a good one to test it out with.00:31
KatsumeBliskmininessie: Is your CPU running at 100%? I didn't get an answer when I asked you.00:31
W4spthriveth: That's anything else but a suitable location though.00:31
KurbsterW4sp: does this log file tell what patches are applied?  I don't have an active ubuntu installation, but I've been using a kubuntu livecd for testing purposes00:31
arrrghhhmininessie, you'll have to monitor it.  it's either processor or hard drive i would guess.00:31
KatsumeBliskmininessie: Also, how's your RAM when running those?00:31
rustler770Has anyone been able to listen to radio using rhythmbox?00:31
KatsumeBliskmininessie: It's not that uncommon when you have that much open. Minecraft is a big resource hog.00:32
KatsumeBliskrustler770: I haven't done it with Rhythmbox, but I use RadioTray. Great program.00:32
rustler770I'll have to try it00:32
KatsumeBliskrustler770: It's an indicator applet, but it enables listening to radio streams. You'll have to find the URLs for your radio stations.00:32
KatsumeBliskrustler770: A quick google should do it. It wasn't hard to find the last time I looked.00:33
dylanI have that red caution triangle at the top of my screen, however when I check for updates, there are none available.00:33
W4spKurbster: It tells you when it has updated, yes.00:33
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: of total memory 68%00:34
arrrghhhdylan, how are you checking for updates?  can you run this in the terminal?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?00:34
rustler770KatsumBlisk: I'll check it out, rhythmbox appears to be broken  for radio.00:34
KatsumeBliskmininessie: How's the CPU?00:34
thrivethW4sp, which one do you mean, Public?00:34
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: idk how to check that00:35
W4spKurbster: Not sure about Kubuntu though. They have their own channel. #kubuntu00:35
minimecamr_: re00:35
KatsumeBliskmininessie: What DE are you using?00:35
dylanarrrghhh: here is the result, the errors are towards the end00:35
dylanarrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jGmLmLR600:35
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: KDE00:36
arrrghhhdylan, in the terminal again, can you 'ping ppa.launchpad.net' ?00:36
KatsumeBliskmininessie: There should be a system monitor program in either system or utilities in the menu.00:36
KatsumeBliskmininessie: I haven't used KDE in a while, so I don't remember the exact location.00:37
dylanthe ping requests are coming through00:37
Kubuntu_terryghi00:37
arrrghhhdylan, ok ctrl-c to cancel it00:38
Kubuntu_terrygAnybody using vsftp with virtual users?00:38
drsteinbergi'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings00:38
arrrghhhdylan, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?00:39
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: its jumping all over the place but is never under 30 and its about 80 percent00:39
BudricHi, can someone tell me how I can fake exit code of 0 from a program?  I'm trying to write an upstart job, and "killall process" command fails because process is not running, but that's ok I don't care it's just cleanup and I want it to continue, unfortunately upstart stops there.  This is even with "normal exit 0 1" specified.00:39
KatsumeBliskmininessie: I'd say that with all three running it's too much for your system.00:39
KatsumeBliskmininessie: Graphics may have something to do with this too. Minecraft is a heavy game because it renders all the blocks.00:39
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: so what would i need to make sure it can handle all of this stuff00:39
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: i have an nvidia 560 ti00:39
KatsumeBliskmininessie: I don't really think there's anything you can do.00:40
drsteinbergi'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?00:40
KatsumeBliskmininessie: You said you're updating while spotify and MC right?00:40
KatsumeBliskmininessie: The update may be doing it. I'd wait until it's done.00:40
mininessieKatsumeBlisk: i am actually on arch lol00:40
KatsumeBliskmininessie: Just chose a popular channel, eh? :P So what's your computer running/doing again?00:41
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arrrghhhmininessie, there is #archlinux...00:41
drsteinbergi'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?00:42
KatsumeBliskarrrghhh: You made him leave. :P00:42
dylanarrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jpcRmkhD00:42
digitigarrrghhh: Still not connecting, but I think we have progress. showmount -e gives me:00:42
digitig showmount -e 192.168.0.1600:42
digitigExport list for 192.168.0.16:00:42
digitig/mnt/pools/A/A0/Eva            *00:42
digitig/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim            *00:42
digitig/mnt/pools/A/A0/Jane           *00:42
digitig/mnt/pools/A/A0/David          *00:42
FloodBot1digitig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:42
dylandigitig: use pastebin for multilines00:43
dylanhe appears to have been shadow banned00:43
arrrghhhdigitig, dude pastebin00:43
dylanthats what mode q is right...?00:43
dylanyep00:44
arrrghhhdylan, i think his voice has been removed00:44
KatsumeBliskdylan: I think he's muted. It lasts for about a min I think00:44
arrrghhhyea that's the one00:44
KatsumeBliskdylan: He'll come back.00:44
dylanarrrghhh: thats what a shadow ban is00:44
digitigdylan: sorry -- rarely use ICQ so don't know about things like pastebin.00:44
arrrghhhshadow ban lol00:44
arrrghhhdigitig, you've been using it so well :P00:44
dylandigitig: it's cool00:44
acyedhello everyone00:44
dylanarrrghhh: shadow ban looks like your typing and submitting, but no-one else sees it00:44
arrrghhhyes.  we've all described the same thing using different words...00:45
arrrghhhdylan, it's probably something in /etc/apt/sources.d/00:45
dylanI shall go check00:46
arrrghhher /etc/apt/sources.list.d/00:46
dylanwhat am I looking for?00:46
arrrghhhdo you have some custom ppa's in thar?00:46
blake_Alt + Click is the only reason I use Linux and X11 =)00:46
dylanlet me post the ls output00:46
dylanarrrghhh:google-chrome.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list.save  webupd8team-java-precise.list00:47
arrrghhhdylan, can you rename all of them to see if it fixes the issue?00:47
acyedI have a toshiba 1tb hard drive that is detected by ubuntu and mounted, but does not show the stuff contained on the drive. when i opened gparted, it shows one fat32, 200 mb with efi label, one unknown partition and one unallocated00:47
acyedhas anyone seen this before?00:47
dylanacyed: this has happened to me before,00:48
dylanacyed: I can't remember what I did though00:48
acyedah, but you did get it to work?00:48
SnapSnapHow do I move my OpenPGP secret key from one computer to another. Both run 12.04 and use Seahorse as a front end.00:48
dylanacyed: not sure... can you see the files when you access it via command line, like with ls?00:49
dylandid you try cntrl-H to see if they were hidden somehow?00:49
acyeddylan: let me check00:49
HelloWorld321!libre00:49
Budricanyone know how to run a script and have exit status be forced to 0?00:50
studiohow can i store a command output as a log?00:50
dylanBudic: why do you want to force exit status to be zero?00:50
Budricstudio: command >> logfile?00:50
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Budricdylan: upstart is failing because "killall someprocess" returns 1 when process isn't running.  It's a cleanup command and I don't care that it's failing00:51
dylanstudio: just append ">> filename" to the end of the file00:51
FloodBot1!netsplit00:51
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:51
W4sp_SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?00:51
dylanBudric, just use -m, i think that is force-kill00:51
dylani.e. I dont care if you fail, just do it00:51
W4sp_SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?00:52
SnapSnapW4sp: I have keys on both computers. If I merge the folders will it preserve all keys?00:52
studioBudric:i want to execute a command and then the output store it to a txt file00:52
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* W4sp_ thinks the lag time today is incredible.00:52
dylanstudio: just append ">> filename.txt" to the end00:53
studiook00:53
Budricdylan: -m isn't an option on ubuntu.  looking at man I don't see anything that will work00:53
W4sp_SnapSnap: Don't!00:53
dylanhmmm00:53
dylando you have to use killall? you could use pkill or something else00:53
dylanpastebin the script00:53
dylanlet me take a crack00:53
SnapSnapW4sp: I'm going to backup both folders, then try to copy the one over to the otehr00:54
W4sp_SnapSnap: It will overwrite. I need to know if you have different private keys for the same email address(es).00:54
W4sp_SnapSnap: Don't do that. It will not work.00:54
acyeddylan: nope, I cant access the drive with mount00:54
Budrichttp://pastebin.com/nMjBBSNe00:54
dylanhmmmm00:54
Budricthanks00:54
acyeddylan: correction, I can mount it00:55
studioBudric: doesnt work.. :S00:56
Budricstudio, which part?  "command >> filename" doesn't work?00:56
SnapSnapW4sp: I had an old key associated with an e-mail address. I quit using that computer so I set up a new key for the same e-mail address on the new computer. Now I'd like to get the original key onto the new computer. I don't care if the new key is preserved.00:56
studioBudric: yeap00:57
digitigarrrghhh: Nope. Still timing out. My command line is sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 192.168.0.6 :/ /nfs (or /Tim at the end, or /mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim)00:57
Budricstudio: try command &> filename  that redirects stderr and stdout00:58
arrrghhhdigitig, 1 sec.  that command seems unnecessarily complex.00:59
W4sp_SnapSnap: If I get that one right all you would need to do is to use your old key rings, revoke your old but valid key and create a new one. Your old private key should be preserved. Once you have done that you can copy it over to the other machine. I strongly suggest to make a backup of both key rings for secure and public keys.00:59
arrrghhhdigitig, did you pastebin the output of that show command?00:59
arrrghhhdigitig, lets make it really simple.  mount 192.168.0.100:/files /blahasdf/files01:00
arrrghhhyou'll probably need at least the -t nfsv401:00
arrrghhhjust try nfs first actually01:00
studioBudric: thanks it works yeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihh01:01
digitigarrrghhh: Do I just give you the URL? http://pastebin.com/vNCqQmWx01:02
gypsehhey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?01:03
arrrghhhdigitig, excellent.  now try this mount command.  "sudo mount 192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /media/tim"01:04
arrrghhhdigitig, you might need to adjust the /media/tim side to whatever you have in Ubuntu01:04
xcervohello guys, an1 here uses gg client with ubuntu?01:05
OerHeksgypseh, i found that disable IPv6 is saving 9 sec boottime01:05
digitigarrrghhh: And we have victory! Now presumably I put that in my /etc/fstab before I forget it! Many thanks.01:07
arrrghhhdigitig, lol not quite.  let me help you with that :)01:08
arrrghhhdigitig, sorry trying to find the exact command i used on mine01:09
vaksanyone know how to change the bootloader screen?01:09
nirivenwhere is /etc/xorg.conf.d?01:09
KatsumeBliskNo one pinged me right? I was afk01:10
KatsumeBliskniriven: at /etc/xorg.conf.d01:10
niriven* /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d01:10
KatsumeBliskniriven: open a terminal01:10
nirivenKatsumeBlisk: ... first off, i know what a path is, secondly, it does not exist on ubuntu.01:10
KatsumeBliskniriven: And "cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"01:10
KatsumeBliskniriven: Well, you DID ask where a path is. I'm not psychic.01:11
arrrghhhdigitig, try this.  192.168.0.16::/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 001:11
arrrghhhdigitig, now i recall adding some lines to increase the speed of the NFS mount01:11
digitigarrrghhh: Well, I've just encountered a new problem. When I try to open a shell I get an error "getpt failed. No such file or directory".01:11
nirivenok i am trying to set a file that normally exists on most distros in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. this folder doe snot exist on ubuntu, where is it?01:11
WeThePeoplewhat is the command to check video ram01:11
arrrghhhdigitig, uhhh?  how are you trying to open a shell?01:12
W4spniriven: :-) You can find xorg.conf in /etc/X11. It's not needed unless it is. ;-) You may need to create one yourself.01:12
digitigarrrghhh: <ctrl> <alt> T01:12
nirivenW4sp: not what i am looking for though.... looking for xorg.conf.d, a folder.01:12
arrrghhhdigitig, that's odd.  i'll have to google that one.01:12
KatsumeBliskniriven: You may need to make it.01:12
arrrghhhi have a bit of experience with NFS.  this is a new one :P01:13
gr33n7007hniriven, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d01:13
nirivengr33n7007h: thank you!01:13
gr33n7007hnp01:13
arrrghhhdigitig, i see people talking about fstab.  did you try to edit it already?01:13
nirivengr33n7007h: acutally it is not there either01:13
gr33n7007hniriven, what ubuntu?01:14
nirivengr33n7007h: yes sir01:14
SnapSnapW4sp: Turns out seahorse has an option to export an your entire key. Thanks for your help.01:14
gr33n7007hniriven, which version01:14
Eduard_MunteanuIs there a standard way to customize an installation and replicate it on multiple machines? I mean, something like kickstart, but I also need to include some files that need to be installed after it's done.01:14
nirivengr33n7007h: 12.0401:14
gr33n7007hniriven, 1 sec01:14
digitigarrrghhh: No, not yet. I've had a routine package update running in the background, that's all. It's asking for a reboot, so I suppose I could let it have one. Back soon...01:15
W4spniriven:  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d01:15
nirivengr33n7007h: ah well guess i shoul dhave done: ls -R / | grep xorg.conf.d, found it01:16
Budricfound a solution to my problem; killall process || echo 1 > /dev/null01:16
nirivenW4sp: gr33n7007h thanks much appreicated01:16
XympaSo doesna nyone know a good guitar fx processor besides rakarrack?01:17
gr33n7007hniriven, where was it /usr/lib/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/01:17
nirivengr33n7007h: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d01:18
gr33n7007hniriven, ah, ok01:18
nirivengr33n7007h: guess i should have ls -R'ed it :)01:18
someguyI am having trouble getting an ATI 7970 to run 3 monitors in ubuntu 12.04.  Is it not capable of this?  I have been googling with no luck01:19
gr33n7007hniriven, or: locate xorg.conf.d01:19
KatsumeBlisksomeguy: I'm no expert, but that's a really new card. Support might not be available yet.01:20
someguyKatsumeBlisk: 8^(01:20
KatsumeBlisksomeguy: I don't know much about GPUs, so I could be wrong. I'm just saying that's a possibility.01:21
XympaAre you running the proprietary drivers?01:21
someguyI installed the proprietary fglrx drivers, and can get 2 monitors configured in catalyst but it will not see my third monitor01:22
icequeenHey, I set up a 16 GB linux-swap partition on my hard drive, but I still can't Hibernate. Do I need to do something to "connect" the Ubuntu partition to the swap partition?01:22
XympaThat's weird...01:22
XympaIf catalyst won't show it, then I guess there's nothing I can help you with...01:23
digitigarrrghhh: Ok, I'm back, and the reboot has fixed the terminal problem. Now, I'm planning to put the mount point in a more sensible place: /media/tim, probably. Is it /etc/fstab I should be editing, and what should I put in there?01:23
someguyXympa: the fglrx (post-release updates) wouldn't install for me <shrug>  think that might help if I can get it to install?01:23
arrrghhhicequeen, do you see it in 'free -m'01:23
usr13digitig: What is on this mount point?01:23
arrrghhhdigitig, ok.  this will get you started for fstab01:24
arrrghhhdigitig, try this.  192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 001:24
usr13digitig: Think of something that will be descriptic.  If it's Music, or Pictures, say so?01:24
arrrghhhusr13, i got this ;)01:24
icequeenarrrghhh I created the linux-swap partition in GParted01:24
arrrghhhicequeen, did you see the command i sent?  do you see a line at the end 'Swap:'?01:25
arrrghhhdigitig, sorry change /mntpoint to /media/tim or whatever.01:25
arrrghhhdigitig, if you find it slow, i can try to help with that... once you finish editing fstab you do sudo mount -a to process it01:25
icequeenarrrghhh ok I tried it. Swap: 0 0 0 shows up =\01:27
usr13arrrghhh: or just mount /media/tim01:27
vaksHow do I change the bootloader screen in ubuntu?  I want windows to be on the top of the list and I want to change the background color obv01:27
arrrghhhicequeen, total is 0?  then it's not on01:27
arrrghhhusr13, he needs it in fstab ;)01:27
arrrghhhwe've already mounted it manually....01:28
arrrghhhicequeen, there's this swapon command.  do you know where the swap space was created?01:29
gr33n7007hvaks, do you want to add a wallpaper to grub a start?01:29
icequeenarrrghhh http://i.imgur.com/Jl7Mb.png01:31
usr13arrrghhh: mount /media/tim would be to test the fstab entry for it.  (Just an alternative that does not require sudo)01:33
arrrghhhicequeen, in a terminal "sudo swapon -f /dev/sdb1"... i think01:33
arrrghhhusr13, oic.  i just use mount -a.  meh.01:33
usr13arrrghhh: you mean sudo mount -a01:34
arrrghhhyes.01:34
arrrghhhdo you come in here to nitpick?  lol01:34
usr13arrrghhh: No, to help.01:34
arrrghhhk01:34
icequeenI think that worked! thanks arrrghhh01:34
icequeen<301:35
icequeenusr13 what's the difference? I've only been using ubuntu 3 days01:35
arrrghhhicequeen, you're welcome.  :)  you want to add an entry to fstab.01:35
icequeenarrghhh how do I add an entry?01:35
digitigarrrghhh: That works fine, thanks. I've given each member of the family some space on the NAS to use as they like, and 'tim' is mine, so the name is descriptive enough. It seems quick enough on single files, but I don't know how it will be when I start shifting serious amounts of data (Windows took 3 days to move my son's photographs onto the drive)01:35
arrrghhhicequeen, we were talking about another issue.  my command processes all of fstab, and usr13's didn't.01:35
icequeenusr13 nvm I re-read what you wrote01:35
arrrghhhdigitig, nfs is MUCH more efficient than samba/cifs...01:36
arrrghhhwhich is what windows is using ;)01:36
icequeenarrrghhh so I don't need to do anything else? or do I?01:36
arrrghhhicequeen, i imagine you always want to use this for swap space?01:36
arrrghhhif you reboot you'll have to do that again01:36
usr13icequeen: sudo mount -a   is an admin command to mount all mount points.  It looks at the fstab file and mounts all that it sees.   mount /media/tim  will just mount that one mount point, (but only if the fstab entry is correct).01:37
arrrghhhicequeen, if we want to do this the right way we'll need the UUID.  1 sec.01:38
icequeenOk01:38
arrrghhhicequeen,  ls -laH /dev/disk/by-uuid/01:38
gr33n7007hicequeen, or just use blkid01:39
usr13sudo blkid /dev/sdx   will show what uuid of sdx01:39
arrrghhhoops i guess the h doesn't need caps.  please tell me jargon in teal is before ../../sdb101:39
arrrghhho sorry01:40
usr13arrrghhh: And yes, using the uuid will be a lot better.01:40
arrrghhhhah, that's a much better way01:40
arrrghhhto find the uuid i mean01:40
arrrghhhi always did that ls command... heh01:40
usr13arrrghhh: That way works too.01:40
arrrghhhindeed.  blkid is probably easier in this case.  thanks.01:40
cr1st0i installed ubuntu dual boot with windows it completed the install rebooted and doesnt do nothing now01:41
arrrghhhgr33n7007h, thank you.  i learn somethin new every day :)01:41
usr13cr1st0: It won't boot?01:41
cr1st0i chosed the 50/50 install it asks lunch startup repair or start windows normaly01:41
gr33n7007harrrghhh, lol01:41
usr13what is a 50/50 install?01:41
cr1st0half ubuntu half windows 701:42
usr13cr1st0: Oh, you mean dual boot?01:42
digitigarrrghhh: in /etc/fstab, do I just put single quotes around that share name that has the space in it? '192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Shared Storage' /media/tim nfs rw,soft,intr 0 001:42
cr1st0yes01:42
usr13cr1st0: Sounds like you failed to tell grub to write to MBR of the primary drive.01:42
usr13cr1st0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub01:42
usr13cr1st0: but it can be fixed ^^^01:43
arrrghhhdigitig, oh shares with spaces...01:43
gypsehhey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?01:43
arrrghhhi think you have do do something really strange... 1 sec.  you have to "escape" the space if you will01:43
usr13\01:44
arrrghhhusr13, isn't it like \040 or something01:44
arrrghhhin fstab ^^01:44
usr13before the space, (but I don't know what your talking about really....01:44
icequeengr33n7007h what is the blkid command?01:44
digitigarrrghhh: the drive came preconfigured with the share name with the space :(01:45
usr13arrrghhh: Did he use a mount point directory name with a space in it?01:45
usr13arrrghhh: If so, why?01:45
arrrghhhusr13, he just said why...01:45
usr13digitig: Why not just cahnge it?01:46
usr13*change01:46
arrrghhhusr13, you can escape spaces in fstab01:46
arrrghhhdigitig, 1 sec..01:46
usr13To tell the truth, I don't know....01:46
arrrghhhusr13, i've done it01:46
usr13I just dont do it.01:46
usr13Ok01:46
usr13digitig: What is the name?01:47
arrrghhhi don't like to do it01:47
usr13What's the name?01:47
arrrghhhiomega storcenter ix2 nfs01:47
arrrghhher01:47
arrrghhhminus the nfs01:47
usr13iomega\ storcenter\ ix2\ nfs01:47
infidelanyone know anything about sfs clustering filesystem?01:47
arrrghhhno01:47
usr13But you probably have to use quotes or something, I dono....01:48
arrrghhh\04001:48
digitigusr13: the drive came preconfigured with that share, and it's tricky to work out how to fix it. I think I will, though -- I can access the share from a Windows machine so I can move everything in it to a share with a more sensible name.01:48
arrrghhhdigitig, so in lieu of a space, literally put \04001:48
arrrghhhhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/fstab-space-in-mount-point-directory-names-846362/01:48
usr13Just change it to iomega-storcenter-ix2-nfs  Or iomega-nfs01:48
arrrghhhlol01:49
arrrghhhdigitig, it will work.  don't sweat it.01:49
arrrghhhusr13, he's already setup a bunch of other clients from the sound of it01:49
usr13Oh,ok01:49
usr13Just seems to be such a messy way to do it but... oh well.01:50
arrrghhhit's not pretty, but it works.  and you only have to setup fstab once hopefull.01:50
arrrghhhy*01:50
YcareneI installed the qtmobility dev package but a program that I'm trying to compile can't find any of the header files.  The files are there and it works if I link to them individually but I'd rather just have it find them where they're at.01:51
digitigarrrghhh: I've set up three Windows clients, but no biggie if I need to remap one network drive on each of them. Anyway, yes it works so I don't need to do anything. It's denying me access to /mnt/ext/USB_WD_My_Book_a_1, but that's yet another drive piggy-backing on the iomega NAS, so I suspect that's settings within the iomega NAS configuration.01:52
arrrghhhdigitig, i would agree.  glad it's working :)01:53
cr1st0seems to be solved :)01:54
CandlehawkHello, I have an issue.01:54
pyoorHi all.  Has anyone had any luck getting the Novatel 551L (4G) aircard working in Ubuntu?01:54
CandlehawkUnity is glitchy with my dual screens.01:55
CandlehawkThe GUI is showing up on both windows, and some of the graphics are not showing up01:55
cr1st0what's the diference between xfce session and xubuntu session?01:56
Candlehawkcr1st0: Default xfce as opposed to xfce as configured for default xubuntu01:56
CyCreeperI Love Ubuntu and I love Linux just wanted to say that lol :D01:57
CandlehawkTHe forum post with my issue is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162740#post1216274001:58
aartistI am using vncviewer  to see windows computer from ubutnu. Can I make the vncviewer size bigger?01:59
infidelare you using command line?02:00
aartistinfidel: yes.02:00
gr33n7007haartist, vncviewer -fullscreen ip port might work02:01
digitigarrrghhh: I'm glad its working too :) Many thanks for the help. I don't know why the external drive is denying access, but I'll try the iomega forum for that. Worst comes to the worst I can plug that one directly into the machine. I don't need that one on the network.02:02
CandlehawkCan nobody help me with this issue?02:02
arrrghhhdigitig, alrighty.  take it easy ;)02:02
mughello02:04
mugdoes anyone know how to install java for Chrome?02:04
vaksso my laptop battery life is waaaay less in ubuntu then it is in windows02:05
aartistgr33n7007h: I tried fullscreen option as you suggested. It hides every other window.  and I cannot use my keyboard on the screen anymore.02:05
mugvaks: try dimming the screen and changing the power settings to power saver02:06
hoover_dammis it possible to boot via PXE and configure the interface statically with Ubuntu? my Preseed currently hardcodes the network configuration as well as my kernel command line02:07
hoover_dammI also disable dhcp on the command line02:07
hoover_dammand yet it's still dhcp02:07
gr33n7007haartist, hey?02:07
usr13aartist: You could change screensize02:08
usr13aartist: ... to match the screensize on the other PC02:08
mug.....02:09
mugummm....02:10
muga little help?02:10
aartistusr13: '...' ? there is no screensize option.02:11
TrollingForSoupMug, what do you need help with?02:11
mugHow do i install Java for Google chrome?02:11
usr13aartist: What do you mean there is no screensize option?02:12
blarsonIs there any possibility of restoring files from an ext4 partition that was just reformatted?02:12
aartistusr13: with vnc viewer there is no screensize option.02:13
mugaartist: system settings then Displays02:13
gr33n7007haartist, usr13 means change the actual screen resolution02:13
aartistgr33n7007h: ubuntu or windows?  Windows has max 1024x76802:13
KatsumeBliskblarson: I'm not sure about the process, but I'd say it's possible.02:13
mugthis is an Ubuntu help chat02:14
gr33n7007haartist, ubuntu02:14
KatsumeBliskblarson: Formatting means that the drive is writable again, but not necessarily wiped. THat's why you 0 out HDs when doing it securely.02:14
arandblarson: probably not, you might be able to extract a few bits and pieces using recovery tools like photorec or so...02:14
usr13aartist: Change either one you want to.02:16
aartistthat works.., as it should. but I cannot use my keyboard.02:16
wallnutsHi I've been trying to start another X windows/LXDE session on tty8 for a few days and can't seem to get it.  I got a shell on tty8 but I can't seem to start X, when I try X :1 i get and erro mesg saying display 0 is in use.  Does any one have any pointers?02:16
mugaartist: lol02:17
mugTrollingForSoup: hows it going?02:17
ejvhi guys, i have some rules im putting in /etc/resolv.conf but every reboot, they get wiped out, where's the proper place to put them?02:18
ShirakawasunaI'm having some trouble reinstalling all installed packages. I'm trying this - dpkg --get-selections > pkg.txt && dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt && sudo apt-get -y dselect-upgrade02:18
Shirakawasunaand it just ends up running the standard 'upgrade' dialog and saying there's nothing to do02:18
TrollingForSoupIt's going well.02:18
Shirakawasunaany ideas? I'm having issues with various things since switching back to xubuntu from ubuntu (I went xubuntu -> ubuntu -> xubuntu)02:18
TrollingForSoupJust ordered a "new" laptop.02:18
jribwallnuts: startx -- :102:19
mugTrollingForSoup: no i mean on trying to find how to install java?02:19
aartistBTW, I love ubutnu.02:19
TrollingForSoupmug, Just install Java in general, it should work in Chrome.02:19
TrollingForSoupThough I do recommend you switch to Firefox.02:19
mugok!02:20
aartistWhat would the ftp solution from WinXP to Ubuntu 12.04 ?02:20
Eduard_Munteanuwallnuts: you can configure gdm to start another session for you02:20
TrollingForSoupSo, other than Ubuntu, what distros should I put on my thinkpad once it arrives?02:20
aartistTrollingForSoup: mint?02:20
TrollingForSoupMeh, that's not much different.02:20
TrollingForSoupI'd prefer something outside of Ubuntu/Mint/Debian02:21
TrollingForSoupYes, I know this is #Ubuntu02:21
Shirakawasunaarchlinux02:21
TrollingForSoup\I just want ideas for other distros to mess around with.02:21
TrollingForSoupAlright, I suppose I can try that aagain.02:21
TrollingForSoupSomething seems to go wrong with every install :/02:21
gbear14275anyone want to talk the merits/failures of better ubuntu support integration... including the possibility of crowd support bounties?  My mind is racing on the idea -->  #ubuntu-offtopic02:21
wallnutsjrib That gives me a screen flash, but goes back to the shell, errors are vesa : ignoring device with bound kernel driver02:23
TrollingForSoupI'll have a 32GB SSD, so02:23
TrollingForSoupI can probably have 4 distros max, and have breathing room.02:23
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wallnutsxinit: connection to X server lost02:23
jribwallnuts: anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.1.log?  If you stop your login manager (and all X instances) can you startx without error successfully?02:26
ejvyou must have a lot of time on your hands to use more than one OS02:28
noob|2does anyone have any good tips for setting up ubuntu?02:30
root__haha02:30
OerHeks!rootirc02:32
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.02:32
docvellQUESTION: Does anyone know where I can find the M.E.S.S. emulator for Ubuntu?  I don't need the rom images just the program (and a front end if possible)02:34
wallnutsjrib nothing jumps out on the log other than it's trying to use VT9 when I go to tty9 I'm getting two openvt errors....  openvt: exec failled: no such file or dir  and openvt: exec failed : permission denied I am running a sudo on the startx -- :102:35
jribwallnuts: no sudo02:36
jribwallnuts: and umm are you sure it's not an issue with your xinitrc?02:36
wallnutsjrib same error with or without sudo where can I change it to run on vt8 instead of vt 902:37
jribwallnuts: try: startx -- :1 xclock02:37
jribwallnuts: I don't know.  It should just grab the next available one02:37
wallnutsbad server option xclock  tried startx xclock -- :102:40
gr33n7007hwallnuts, startx -display :1 -- :1 vtn02:40
jribwallnuts: it should be "startx -- :1 xclock" iirc02:41
jribwallnuts: actually that fails now for me too.  One sec.02:42
gr33n7007hwallnuts, startx -display :1 -- :1 vtn replace 1 with vt8 etc02:43
Cache_MoneyI'm trying to change my theme (http://sajithdilshan.github.com/blog/blog/2012/08/07/transform-ubuntu-12-dot-04-into-mac-os-x-lion/) but it won't let me save over the gtk.css file.  How do I change the permissions?02:45
wallnutsgr33n7007h, do I replace :1 with :vt8?02:45
gr33n7007hwallnuts, repleace :1 with :802:46
wallnutsgr33n7007h, oh I c02:47
LoRezhow can I get alt-` to not be handled by gnome?02:48
wallnutsgr33n7007h, just the same screen flash and the X server shuts down02:48
PhosphateReally stupid question... Anyone happen to know how to setup wpa_supplicant.conf for an open wireless network (no password)?02:48
mcccan anyone explain to me why there is a gcc-mingw32  package and also a mingw32 package in ubuntu?02:48
mccit *looks* like, in 12.04, gcc-mingw32 installs version 4.6.3 and mingw32 installs version 4.2.x02:49
mccbut i'm not sure i'm reading this right02:49
gr33n7007hwallnuts, did u replace both :102:51
wallnutsyeah progress, I think it's calling xterm which I don't have I made a link from xclock called xter and success so what should I launch02:51
wallnutscalled xterm that is02:52
wallnutsI did get a clock02:52
slackinUNO MAS PARA PUG02:52
jribwallnuts: create a ~/.xinitrc02:53
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MrUnkownGuyI can't install java02:54
MrUnkownGuyim confused with the instructions02:54
KatsumeBliskMrUnkownGuy: What Java are you trying to install? The official packages from Oracle were pulled because Oracle's a bunch of jerks. lol02:55
DarkAceLaptopMy OS stopped booting, folders in root cannot be read from my 10.04 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140412/02:55
MrUnkownGuyKatsumeBlisk: Version 7 Upgrade 5 Link: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en02:56
wallnutsgr33n7007h, ops killed the wrong X and had to reboot02:56
MrUnkownGuyIf you know a .deb file it would be very helpful02:57
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KatsumeBliskMrUnkownGuy: What are you using this for? It's easier to install the open sourceversion from the repos02:58
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MrUnkownGuyoh i am trying to download a youtube video but the website says it needs java02:58
KatsumeBliskrun "sudo apt-cache search openjdk" to find the open source version. I don't use it, so I don't know the exact package name.02:59
KatsumeBliskMrUnkownGuy: ^^03:00
KatsumeBliskMrUnkownGuy: It'll tell you the package names but not install it.03:00
TuxMrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre03:00
Tuxer03:00
KatsumeBliskMrUnkownGuy: That's it ^^03:00
KatsumeBliskI think03:00
TuxMrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre icedtea-6-plugin03:00
tech1when i try to shut down my pc it freezes at the shutdown splash screen and something in the pc turns off i can hear, maybe the psu fan.. but then case fan and cpu fan keep running with the image still on the screen... i tried sudo update-grub, then sudo poweroff but same thing.. is this likley to be a motherboard or harddrive issue?03:03
wallnutsThanks for the help jrib and gr33n7007h I'm close03:03
DarkAceLaptopwilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140414/03:04
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, fstab showed on the original script.03:05
mccshould i expect "file" for ubuntu to be able to distinguish a 32-bit Windows exe from a 64-bit Windows exe?03:05
DarkAceZoh03:05
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, the bootrepair boot info script03:05
DarkAceZI see03:05
mcci have here installed i686-w64-mingw32-g++03:05
mccthat name has both 64 and 32 in it03:05
mcci do not know what to expect its output files to be03:06
DarkAceZI made a forum post, but just like I thought, no help... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post1216310003:06
mccif i compile a test program then use "file", i get: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows03:06
KatsumeBliskmcc: Why are you needing a Windows exe?03:06
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, can you give me a link to the thread.03:06
DarkAceZhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post1216310003:07
mccKatsumeBlisk: I develop games. I wish to compile my games in a way that Windows users can play them. I do not have a copy of Windows at present.03:07
KatsumeBliskmcc: That's a 32bit package whatever that g++ thing is. It's i686.03:07
mcckatsumeblisk: oh, that makes sense. thanks03:07
KatsumeBliskmcc: I don't really know if I can help, but I was curious. lol03:07
mccah03:07
mccmingw32 is a cross compiler, it is a version of gcc that creates windows exes03:08
KatsumeBliskmcc: That's cool. I'll look into it. Now, we better stop talking about this since it's offtopic. :P03:10
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, hard to say as far as answers the thread header should attract a few, some wont answer due to the jury rigged setup probably, hard to say.03:10
mccwell, i am in here specifically to ask about Ubuntu's official packages for the mingw32 project. So I may return to the subject in an ontopic way in a minute :)03:10
Maccermcc: I'd recommend building your games using MSVC's LINK.exe in wine, or some other way via a build server.03:11
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, best think in the future is have everything backed up including a clone of the OS.03:11
DarkAceZokay03:11
wilee-nileea clone would of reloaded in a matter of minutes, no harm done.03:12
mccmaccer: huh. that's kind of an interesting idea.03:13
mccmaccer: i'm actually really looking for a way to create msvc-compatible static libraries.03:13
mccmaccer: is msvc or at least cl.exe/link.exe known to work in wine?03:14
mcchuh come to think of it i kinda wonder if i could rent a windows instance on AWS or something...03:14
MaccerMCC: I believe so.  It doesn't require a lot of MS API's as it's only command prompt, I wouldn't see why.03:14
mccmaccer: well, at some point i assume you need to run the installer. but that's very interesting thanks...03:15
MaccerYeah, most likely.03:16
howardgrigghey guys - anyone know of a script to watch a downloads folder and if a file is an avi automatically convert it to a m4v?03:16
Shirakawasunadoes anyone in here know how to get ubuntu to reinstall all installed packages? I've tried the standard listed --get-selections -> --sect-selections -> -y update --> dselect-upgrade and it simply states there's nothing to update. I've also tried the bash for loop option that's sometimes mentioned but it actually tries to reinstall things that I've *removed* as well03:16
cronie2285Anyone know how to switch window mangers on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ???03:17
MaccerThat's interesting howardgrigg, no, I don't.  But if you're up for the job, you could write a python script or some shell script with cron job.03:17
Maccercronie2285:  If you install via the official repositories and software center, it should appear under the session menu (where you login)03:18
wilee-nileeShirakawasuna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140438/03:18
mcchowardgrigg: ffmpeg could do the conversion pretty easy, i don't know how to watch a folder tho03:18
cronie2285Maccer: thanks I'll be right back then03:19
wilee-nileeShirakawasuna, ah I see you have tried this method.03:19
howardgriggMaccer, hah I am not up to the job sorry - I'm not a dev but I'm running a ubuntu server with plex and torrents but some of the movies won't play on the xbox and the processor isn't fast enough to transcode on demand03:19
howardgriggmcc yea i was looking at ffmpeg but unsure how to do it...03:19
Maccerhowardgrigg:  I see.03:19
wilee-nileeShirakawasuna, why do you need all installs reinstalled?03:19
mccthe way to use ffmpeg is: type "ffmpeg" followed by about 30 inscrutable arguments03:20
mcclook on google for a cookbook03:20
luftikussI invoked '~$ LANG=C weechat-curses'. WeeChat opened. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using X03:20
luftikussChat though.03:20
mccalso, if you want to make an m4v you are going to need the mpeg4 extensions. due to patent issues, these are not legal in america, and so the debian/ubuntu packages are not in the official repos.03:21
MaccerWelcome back cronie2285.03:22
cronie2285Maccer: Yeap , that did the trick , THANKS !03:22
Maccerno problem o/03:22
howardgriggmcc hmm ok - I'm looking forward to have this all setup and then not having to worry about it lol03:23
cronie2285I installed Kubuntu, now it works.03:23
MaccerMy lazy ass would personally just make a simple shell script file {ffmpeg {parameters} *.extension}, and just execute it every five minutes, or at least add a test if the extension exists03:23
howardgriggMaccer, that could do it03:23
mcci could tell you how to do this on os x...03:24
mccthat is... totally useless to you03:24
mccwait, i think linux might have an fsevents like mechanism too03:24
mccyeah, look at this thing03:25
mcchttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/03:25
howardgriggyea, I'm currently on my macbook and could probably do it with automator and applescript but that's not going to work to well on the server03:25
mccthat link explains how to run a cron-like script on every modification of a directory03:25
howardgriggyea looking hopeful03:25
lifbrngrHello!03:31
Maccero/03:31
lifbrngrI am seeking some assistance for a silly reason.03:31
MaccerDoes it pertain to *ubuntu / linux?  Ah well, ask anyways.03:32
lifbrngrit pertains to ubuntu and windows on 2 dif partitions.03:32
MaccerAlright, what seems to be the problem?03:33
lifbrngrI'm trying to figure out how to link files for an app. I have read it can be done. but I dont know enough to do it.03:33
MaccerWhat do you mean by "link files for an app"?03:33
lifbrngrthis may seem silly as I am a 35 y/o man... but I want my steam apps on my windows partion to link to the wine steam app.03:34
TrollingForSoupDo you mean symlink application data so that a program on both OSes can use it?03:34
MaccerAh.  Yeah, I think that's what he wants/.03:34
lifbrngrsave space and all as I already have them both.03:34
TrollingForSoupYou can just point Steam in Windows to the spot where they're stored in WINE.03:34
TrollingForSoupOr vice versa03:34
Partial_UpgradeHi, I just ran a partial upgrade on ubuntu lucid, now there's another partial upgrade. Is that normal?03:35
lifbrngrthat is my delema03:35
MaccerPersonally, I'd just run steam from the partition will all the games but... alright.03:35
lifbrngrHow is that done?03:35
TrollingForSoupWell, I did something similar on my desktop running Xubuntu and Win7.03:35
TrollingForSoupWell, what I'd do.03:35
TrollingForSoupAssuming you mount all folders from both OSes on boot in either OS.03:35
TrollingForSoupIs just install Steam, on the windows partition, to the Steam folder in WINE.03:36
MaccerPartial_Upgrade: Err... that completely depends.  I'm not sure.  You did skip two versions after all?  Maybe you need to upgrade some kernel files too?03:36
TrollingForSoupSo, install Steam in WINE. And put steamapps in there.03:36
TrollingForSoupAnd then install Steam again on Windows, in the same partition.03:36
TrollingForSoupOR something similar.03:36
TrollingForSoupI can try to walk you through it in PM.03:36
TrollingForSoupIf I remember how to do so :/03:36
MaccerSo yeah, basically you want to read your Win parition's steamapp folder and what not?03:37
lifbrngryes... maccer...03:37
TrollingForSoupYeah, seems like.03:37
MaccerSorry if I misunderstand you.03:37
lifbrngrI already have all my games installed on the windows partition.03:37
Partial_UpgradeMaccer: I think you're right, the computer crashed while updating kernal a few weeks ago, I guess that explains the partial upgrades.03:37
TrollingForSoupThough, why you'd run games under Linux is beyond me... As there's no reason to worry about compatibility issues when you could just reboot.03:37
lifbrngrTrue. and I have no problems doing that...03:38
lifbrngrI am however, getting tired of windows.03:38
MaccerOkay, well.  You have to remove the folder you want to link.  Then you have to do 'ln -s {windows location to folder} local_folder_name'03:38
agentgasmasklifbrngr: So just a simple: ln -s /path/to/steamapps/on/mounted/windows/partition  /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Programfiles/etc...03:38
Maccer^03:39
TrollingForSoupI was too lazy to type that out, thanks XD03:39
lifbrngrI would run that in terminal...03:39
lifbrngr?03:39
MaccerWell, I'm not sure about the default Ubuntu desktop environment has to offer, but yes generally.03:40
lifbrngrforgive a complete newby. thankyou for your help!03:40
Maccernp <303:40
Partial_UpgradeIs there any good voice recognition software for Ubuntu 10.04?03:40
TrollingForSoupYes.03:41
TrollingForSoupExcept replace the first location with the actual one.03:41
TrollingForSoupNot sure where you mount the Windows partition to.03:41
JC-PTYguys, does anyone knows how to start x11vnc server from ssh in a remote ubuntu 12.0403:41
MaccerPartial_Upgrade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux03:41
agentgasmasklifbrngr: yes. So, say you have your windows partiotion mounted at /mnt, then the command would be ln -s /mnt/Program\ Files/Application\ Data/Steam/Steam\ Apps/etc.. /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/etc...03:41
lifbrngrok.03:42
Maccertl;dr: ln -s windows/steamapps steamapps03:42
userhi all03:43
MaccerHello user03:43
lifbrngrthe name of the mounted drive is outragiously odd... appears Hex... anyway to change that?03:43
MaccerIt... what?03:43
agentgasmasklifbrngr: And like the others said, the "steamapps" directory under wine can't exist when you run the ln command (obviosly).03:43
MaccerOh03:43
lifbrngr9E94D90294D8DDB903:43
MaccerThat's just... yeah, there is some way to change that probably.  But that's just the serial name of it I believe.03:44
lifbrngrthat is the name of my mounted drive.03:44
MaccerI'm not sure how you'd graphically change the name, but you could just mount it to a different folder of your choosing.  This is desktop environment specific.03:44
Partial_UpgradeFile system label in Disk Utility changes the volume label.03:45
agentgasmasklifbrngr: It's not a big deal, you won't run into it much. But if you want to change it, type "mount" and see what device is mounted to 9E94D-etc.. Should be something like /dev/sda1 or so. Note that down. Next type sudo umount /path_to/9E94D-etc.. Next run: sudo mount /dev/sda1 (or what ever it was) /mnt.03:46
agentgasmaskThat will mount your partition under /mnt03:47
lifbrngrexelent.03:48
ooldirty...03:48
lifbrngrknow what?03:49
lifbrngrI think I just got it by making a link and draging and droping the link into my steam folder.03:49
* agentgasmask tag next tech to help and head off to bed.03:50
* agentgasmask makes the last sentence plural.03:51
agentgasmasklifbrngr: good luck. :)03:51
lifbrngrThanks!03:51
MaccerI'm still here.03:51
Maccerlifbrngr: I'm not sure if that will work, but when in doubt 'ln -s'03:51
TrollingForSoupI'm always here.03:51
luftikuss'~$ LANG=C weechat-curses' opened WeeChat. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using XChat though.03:52
lifbrngrGood point.. lemme test. brb03:52
Maccerluftikuss: I'm not familiar with this client but after the forward slash, that's used to denote a channel, not a port.03:54
lifbrngrit most certianly did..03:54
Maccerlifbrngr:  Cool!03:54
lifbrngrWhat I did for future reference was navigate to the correct folder in my mounted drive.03:54
lifbrngrI right clicked on the folder I wanted a link of and selected Create link.03:55
Maccerluftikuss:  A port usually follows after the entire URI, so irc.ubuntu.com/example (+ for ssl)666703:55
Maccerlifbrngr: Mh, not surprised.  Most DE's use links as shortcuts.  I just wish windows had extend symlink capabilities that extended beyond explorer.03:55
lifbrngrI then navigated to my steam folder on the .wine system and placed the link there. but not untill I renamed the origional folder ***.BAK03:56
luftikussMaccer, I don't think that I need to a add a port number: Yesterday I did not need entering it either.03:56
MaccerHuh, actually it does exist.  Just not in a shortcut form.  It's called mklink.03:56
Maccerluftikuss:  Of course you don't, by default it will assign 6667.03:56
Maccer/6667 is not the port is what I'm saying03:57
lifbrngrThank you all for your assistance in this matter.03:57
lifbrngr:)03:57
MaccerWe love you too, lifbrngr. <303:57
lifbrngrYAY!!!!!!!03:57
lifbrngrNow I'm off to theme some more android roms.03:58
MaccerBy the way, I'm not even sure if irc.ubuntu.com works, because the channel is actually hosted on freenode.  Could be just a DNS redirection though.03:58
Maccerlifbrngr:  f'sho03:58
luftikussMaccer, It is difficult for me to understand you. May be the reason is that my native language is not Englisch. I did not state that " /6667 is  the port."03:59
luftikuss-c03:59
reasearcher123All sites open except facebook,tatasky dont open on myPC. It just takes infinite time trying to open and never opens.Help please04:00
Maccerluftikuss: Ah, I'm sorry.  Try to connect:  'irc.ubuntu.org' or 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'04:00
Maccerreasearcher123:  Sounds like a DNS or another connection problem unrelated to Ubuntu.  Can you be more specific?  When did it start?  Was it always like this?04:01
MaccerMh, tsk tsk tsk.04:01
Idk2932984823428Can someone help me with spmething?04:06
MaccerOf course, Mr. Idk293298482342804:07
MaccerOr... Ms.04:07
Idk2932984823428Thanks lol mr04:07
Idk2932984823428I have a laptop using windows xp but i want to put xubuntu on it and get rid of windows os04:07
Idk2932984823428I already downloded the iso and the iso torrent04:08
Idk2932984823428And im trying to burn the iso to a disc04:08
MaccerIdk2932984823428:  Does this not work?04:09
Idk2932984823428The thing is when i put the blank disc in it doesnt come up04:09
Idk2932984823428Idk why04:09
MaccerWhat doesn't come up?04:09
Idk2932984823428The dick04:09
Idk2932984823428disk' LOL04:09
TrollingForSoupAre you sure your disk drive is working?04:09
Idk2932984823428Yea when i put it in i hear it spinning04:09
TrollingForSoupI know my crappy ASUS one sometimes doesn't detect blank CDs.04:09
Maccer;)04:10
Idk2932984823428but it stops after like 10 secs04:10
MaccerGo in to the explorer / file manager, does it see the disk?04:10
TrollingForSoupIf not, just use unetbootin.04:10
TrollingForSoupAnd a flash drive/04:10
Idk2932984823428whats that04:10
MaccerErr, do you see the CD/Disk in My Computer?04:10
Idk2932984823428I click my computer but it never shows up04:11
Idk2932984823428But my usb drive does04:11
TrollingForSoupunetbootin lets you turn flash drives into bootable "disks"04:11
TrollingForSoupI use it for OS installs.04:11
Idk2932984823428Can you link me?04:11
Idk2932984823428So i can download it04:11
MaccerYep, just a warning though, USB Flash Drive installations will be a little slower.04:11
TrollingForSoupJust Google unetbootinl.04:11
Idk2932984823428I have patience lol04:11
TrollingForSoupWould USB3 still be slower?04:11
MaccerOr... by a lot.  It depends of course.04:11
Idk2932984823428Like will it take an hour or 2?04:12
TrollingForSoupNah.,04:12
Idk2932984823428Longer?04:12
lotuspsychje!info unetbootin04:12
ubottuunetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 565-3 (precise), package size 282 kB, installed size 794 kB04:12
TrollingForSoupI installed Xubuntu in about 20 mins with a USB2 flash drive.04:12
MaccerTrollingForSoup:  I honestly don't know.  I think it probably depends on your flash drive read speeds.04:12
RelondoOkay, so I went to install Ubuntu on a computer after it had a Wubi install. I uninstalled Wubi, and booted a liveCD. Normally I get an easy-to-use graphical installer, but instead I'm prompted to04:12
TrollingForSoupEw, Wubi.04:12
Relondo"Select device for bootloader installation"04:12
Idk2932984823428Does my flash drive have enough space trolling?04:12
TrollingForSoupIdk2932984823428, Is it 1GB or more?04:13
Idk2932984823428Lol no04:13
TrollingForSoupIt has to be over 700MB.04:13
Idk2932984823428Ugh04:13
TrollingForSoupFor the full install.04:13
Idk2932984823428I have like 520 mb flash drive04:13
TrollingForSoupYou can probably do minimal in less.04:13
lotuspsychjelol04:13
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TrollingForSoupThat's why I have like 20 8GB flash drives lying around.04:13
MaccerIs that a clean flash drive, or does it have files?04:13
RelondoSorry, if anyone responded to my question, I got disconnected briefly.04:13
Idk2932984823428Lol i have like 2 cds with 700 mb on them04:13
RelondoCan they repeat it, if they did?04:13
MaccerRelondo: I saw it, sec.04:13
Idk2932984823428but my cd drive isnt reading them -_-04:13
TrollingForSoupHm...04:14
lotuspsychjeRelondo:what are u trying to install04:14
TrollingForSoupDo you have 120 floppy disks?04:14
lotuspsychjelol troll04:14
TrollingForSoupThat would almost cover it.04:14
Idk2932984823428lol i dont have a floppy drive04:14
TrollingForSoup140 to be safe.04:14
Relondolotuspsychje:  Just a normal Ubuntu 12.04 install.04:14
MaccerRelondo:  What are the options?04:14
MaccerAnd did you install Wubi inside of Windows?04:14
TrollingForSoupWell, you can use Ubuntu server install on the 512MB, maybe.04:14
TrollingForSoupNot sure what size it is.04:14
lotuspsychjeRelondo:you want a clean install or dualboot?04:15
TrollingForSoupAnd then install xubuntu-desktop manually.04:15
Idk2932984823428How?04:15
TrollingForSoupI'll walk you through in PM.04:15
Relondolotuspsychje: Dual boot.04:15
Idk2932984823428Ok lol04:15
MaccerWubi can dual boot with it being on the same parition as Windows AFAIK.04:15
RelondoMaccer: I installed Wubi inside Windows, then uninstalled. And the options are: I have a window titled "Installation Type"04:15
lotuspsychjeRelondo:i hear sometimes win7 bootloader gets messy on ubuntu installs04:16
RelondoIt lists my drives just like GParted does, but  prompts me "Choose Device for boot loader installation"04:16
Relondolotuspsychje: It wants a drive for the bootloader. I guess what I'm asking is where do I put the bootloader? Do I make a new partition?04:17
MaccerAh so you're installing this from the Live CD?  Well, from the partition manager you'd have to install it on some free space or on some other partition (which will overwrite)04:17
howardgriggwould Precise Pangolin run ok on a 1.5gHz dual core04:17
howardgrigg?04:17
Maccer(The Live CD has an option like WUBI if you're ever unsure BTW)04:17
howardgriggdesktop version04:17
RelondoMaccer: Let me give you a screenshot. Second.04:17
Maccerhowardgrigg:  I wouldn't doubt it.04:17
howardgriggMaccer, cool04:18
howardgrigg:)04:18
lotuspsychjeRelondo:loose win7 lol and full install ubuntu04:18
SnapSnapIs there a way to make the default chat client Pidgin instead of Empathy. Will it still be integrated into the desktop bar?04:18
wilee-nileethe live cd will not install wubi has not for several releases.04:18
Partial_UpgradeI completed a partial upgrade in ubuntu 10.04, now the update service doesn't update anything. It says fix the broken packages. Any ideas?04:18
MaccerSnapSnap:  I don't know about the first question, but it will be integrated, yes.04:18
MaccerAs long as it's running, it will be there.04:19
lotuspsychje!10.0404:19
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)04:19
Relondolotuspsychje: That's not an option here.04:19
RelondoMaccer: Here: http://imgur.com/tnix704:19
SnapSnapMaccer: So if I uninstall empathy and install pidgin it will integrate pidgin?04:19
MaccerSnapSnap:  All the time when Pidgin is running04:19
SnapSnapMaccer: Thanks04:19
MaccerRelondo:  That interface is for formatting and creating new partitions, if you select one of those disks, it will format and overwrite.04:20
wilee-nileeRelondo, you have 4 primary partitions on that HD, the max allowed04:20
MaccerThat's not his problem, no?04:20
howardgriggnoob question: if I install the desktop version onto a server without a screen can I vnc into it and use the GUI?04:20
MaccerWell, it is if he wants to make a new primary partition.04:21
RelondoMaccer: This just popped up through normal installation.04:21
Maccerhowardgrigg:  I... doubt it.  I don't think it's configured for that purpose.04:21
RelondoWilee-nilee: One of those is my flash drive running the live session.04:21
wilee-nileeMaccer, a extended so there is room for a swap would be prudent as a replacement for one of them.04:21
howardgriggMaccer, what would you recommend?04:22
MaccerRelondo:  Yes, so what's the problem?  You don't know what to select to install?04:22
lotuspsychjehowardgrigg:if you install a desktop version, you can always vnc into it from another location04:22
Maccerhowardgrigg:  Why can't you use a regular server or alternate CD?04:22
wilee-nileeRelondo, look closer I see no sdb04:22
RelondoMaccer: Indeed. This is not the install screen I've been prompted with before.04:22
MaccerYou can?  They put that in?  Well, that should answer your question howardgrigg, apparently it can.04:22
MaccerRelondo:  Hit back and see your options.04:23
wilee-nileeRelondo, you have sda1,2,3 and 404:23
MaccerRelondo:  There's three, either one, you write with windows, two overwrite something, or three something else (this screen)04:23
lotuspsychje!vnc | howardgrigg04:24
ubottuhowardgrigg: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX04:24
howardgriggI'm looking at buying the HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L but it doesn't have a display port and I'm not comfortable with using it only through the CLI04:24
MaccerYou'll have to learn some time, plus, the CLI install isn't too bad.  It's quasi-graphical.04:24
howardgriggi figured if I can vnc into it (just from my local network) then I can manage it like that04:24
lotuspsychjehowardgrigg: its not recommended to install desktop version on a server (for server purposes)04:25
Maccerhowardgrigg:  You could, of course.  Usually people don't buy micro servers for this purpose though.04:25
Relondowilee-nilee: Not sure why this has so many partitions; I haven't created any. I don't think Wubi makes one, though, right?04:25
RelondoMaccer: My options are: "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" or "Something Elsee"04:25
howardgrigghmm maybe i should have a look at the server version instead (scares me though…)04:26
lotuspsychjehowardgrigg:better install the server edition, then install a vnc server on it04:26
MaccerRelondo:  Yes, I don't think it does.  If this is a consumer PC, then there could be a couple explanations on why these partitions are there.  I'd recommend you go in Windows and figure it out if you're not sure.04:26
lotuspsychje!server | howardgrigg04:26
ubottuhowardgrigg: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server04:26
MaccerThe first one could be the boot loader, others could be possible recovery disks.  Who knows.04:26
wilee-nileeRelondo, looks like boot partition is sda1, OEM's quite often have 4 partitions04:27
GolfgeoHi all04:27
RelondoMaccer: Okay. Hm.04:27
* howardgrigg goes researching04:27
Relondowilee-nilee: Alright, so do I overwrite sda1?04:27
lotuspsychjeRelondo: to install win7 dualboot, many reccomend make a new partition from within win7 first, to install ubuntu on04:28
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Actually, I'm going to boot Windows and check it out. I'll be right back.04:28
Golfgeosetting up a specialised laptop, and would like a swap file at the beginning and end of the harddrive... But... Have read about hibernate problems when re-enabling it on a machine with multiple swap files... Any thoughts or how-to's for 12.04?04:28
wilee-nileeRelondo, that is way to small and would crash the boot, is the computer completely backed up=cloned and do you have a install or recovery disc?04:28
Golfgeo*swap partition04:29
lotuspsychje!hibernate | Golfgeo04:29
lotuspsychjeGolfgeo: not sure what you wanna try to do, but hibernate problems should be solveable..04:30
Golfgeolotuspsychje: Guess you're asking a bot to send me some info... didn't receive it though :D04:30
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lotuspsychjeGolfgeo:bot has no info on it so it seems04:31
Golfgeolotuspsychje: read somewhere that the kernel on poweron can't see what swap partition the hibernated state is written on...04:31
lotuspsychje!swap04:31
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info04:31
Golfgeolotuspsychje: read that one :)04:32
lotuspsychjeGolfgeo:not sure about that, but im sure theres a solution for it04:32
Golfgeolotuspsychje: but it states that 12.04 does it differently04:32
Golfgeolotuspsychje: k :)04:33
TrollingForSoupI don't think I've ever had to use swap.04:33
lotuspsychjeGolfgeo:maybe this can help? http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/04:33
lotuspsychjebrb04:34
MaccerIf you're planning to use 4GB on a 64-bit computer or 2GB or less on a 32-bit, I'd probably suggest for you to use swap.04:35
MaccerAs firefox + flash player leaks tons of memory, combined with other applications.  You could get around that though.04:35
MaccerThe only I time I personally touched 2GB is when firefox leaked a gigabyte.04:35
Maccer(64-bit on 8GB)04:36
GolfgeoMaccer: I know haha, hate firefox for that specific thing04:36
Golfgeolove it too, but for other reasons :D04:36
blake_Question: My system load average is between 1.3 and 1.5 while idle. Is this normal?04:36
kannudois there a way to burn the latest version of ubuntu onto a single CD? the iso for it is 701 MB and as far as i know cd's only go to 700 MB..04:37
Golfgeolotuspsychje: read that one too :D04:37
blake_Can someone please explain 'load' ? My cpu and ram usage is low, but load is high. Why?04:37
MaccerJust curious blake_, how did you average CPU load on idle anyways?04:38
blake_kannudo the extra MB is iso information. It should burn to a single CDROM fine if you use the burning software's "Burn ISO Image" feature.04:38
Golfgeokannudo: iso buring tools are smart... the 701 mb shouldn't be a big problem untill the tool states it is ;) so... just try :D04:38
blake_Maccer I type 'uptime' into terminal, and it shows me average load. In my past experience with Linux, anything over 1.0 is 'high'04:38
kannudoso powerISO will know what to do? coolness... i knew there was a reason i love computers!04:38
blake_kannudo Yes, it will work. But don't just burn the ISO to the CD, make sure you use "Burn ISO"04:39
kannudothanks bunches.... gotta run!!!04:39
ryanwong1030kannudo: i never burn iso . just from hard disk.04:39
hsidhuhi I'm having a difficulty installing ubuntu. I've done it a million times before but this is a strange issue I'm having. My desktop has 2 hard drives (1 TB and 2 TB). The 1 TB hard drive has two partitions one of which has Windows 7 Installed. I cannot see my partitions in the "install" section of the installation process. Can anyone help me?04:39
Maccerblake_: I suppose that would be true on a server, but I've never had experience with desktop models.  uptime/top doesn't measure average load by just idling though, there could be tons of factors04:40
Maccerblake_: I suggest ask the guys at ##linux, tell me what they say.04:40
steven_supp guys04:40
MaccerAnd mention if it's a desktop or not.04:40
blake_Maccer thanks04:40
hsidhuCan anyone help me with partitioning issue for installing ubuntu? I cannot see my partitions on the ubuntu install :(04:41
steven_windows is wackk04:41
Maccerhsidhu:  One sec, reading.04:41
steven_windows suckss04:41
steven_odeee04:41
hsidhuMaccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.04:42
Maccerhsidhu:  What do you mean?  You can't see any partitions on the 1TB hard-drive?04:42
hsidhuMaccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.04:42
hsidhuMaccer: I don't know which one is my windows partition and which one is my second partition of my 1 tb hard drive04:42
ryanwong1030hsidu : using one hard-dreive04:42
hsidhuMaccer: I'm going to assume /dev/sdb1 is my second hard drive which is 2 TB in size04:43
blake_Maccer Is there a trick to getting +v in ##linux ?04:43
Maccerblake_: You don't need +v, why?  Just need to be registered.04:43
blake_Maccer, Ah. I'd better register then =)04:43
Maccerhsidhu:  I'm... not sure.  /dev/sdb tends to be removable storage, no?04:43
MaccerWell, /dev/sdb is the second SCSI, SATA, or USB disk on a computer.04:44
Maccer/dev/sdb1 is the third I presume.04:44
hsidhuMaccer: I'm not sure. If I go to the Home folder I can see my drives like I do in Windows. I see my 189 GB partition and 811 gb partition of my 1 TB hard drive. I also see my 2 tb hard drive. I want to install ubuntu on my 811 GB hard drive.04:44
Maccer/dev/sda is the first04:44
Golfgeooke, decided on just one swap partition pfff! now to decided it on the beginning or end of disk haha04:45
Relondomaccer, wilee-nilee: So I found out that the 20 gig is my recovery, the 200meg is the "Active System Partition" the 600gig is my operating system and files, and the 100meg is "HP Diagnostic Tools".04:45
hsidhuMaccer: The installer is not telling me the size of the devices so I am not able to differentiate between them.04:45
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wilee-nileeRelondo, Yep standard oem install.04:45
TaJMoXMaccer by "registered" do you mean my name to be registered on NickServ?04:45
Relondowilee-nilee: oem?04:46
Maccerhsidhu:  Go to ctrl+alt+f1, type in fdisk -l, maybe you'll get more information.04:46
wilee-nileeRelondo, manufacturers install.04:46
Idk8348394329442Im back04:46
Relondowilee-nilee: Okay, but just out of curiousity, what does it stand for?04:46
MaccerOriginal equipment manuf.04:46
OerHekshsidhu, in your bios, is your hdd controller set to AHCi or IDE ? that could explain why linux does not see a partition04:47
MaccerActive system protection... sounds like some fancy made up name.04:47
RelondoMaccer: Thanks.04:47
Relondowilee-nilee: So is the "System" partition the bootloader? Can I put Grub on there?04:47
TaJMoXMaccer after pressing CTRL+ALT+F1, how do I get back to X11?04:47
MaccerCtrl+Alt+F704:47
hsidhuOerHeks: I'm not sure should I go check now?04:47
MaccerSorry. :P04:47
hsidhuOerHeks: What should it be set to.04:48
OerHekshsidhu, check if it is set to AHCI yes04:48
MaccerTaJMoX:  Yes on Nickserv btw.04:48
hsidhuOerHeks: Should it be set to AHCI?04:48
TaJMoXMaccer I use CTRL+ALT+F5 usually..but how do I get back to GUI?04:48
MaccerCtrl+Alt+F7, TaJMoX04:48
TaJMoXThanks again Maccer04:48
wilee-nileeRelondo, Go to the ubuntu forum if you can't get exacting help here, I believe the firm ware sda4, can be put in a extended, so that you can delete it and put a extended in with some shrinking of other partitions, for the ubuntu and swap partitions, I have seen that advised, but confirm this.04:49
Relondowilee-nilee: Extended?04:49
Golfgeolol, my current laptop offers some comfort :D There I've placed the swappartition in the middle of the disk haha04:50
Idk8348394329442Trollingforsoup im back04:50
MaccerI think he could safely delete some partitions as long as they're not for boot or interfere with any crazy application in Windows.  I'd do NTFS formatting in windows for safety though.04:50
GolfgeoI hate my life! hihi04:50
TrollingForSoupHey, idk.04:50
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Idk8348394329442Hey lol04:50
Idk8348394329442Did you find the link?04:50
wilee-nileeRelondo, a extended partition allows you to use logical partitions and get past the 4 primary partition limit linux will run this way windows wont without some tweaking that I would not bother with, but supposedly the firmware partition sda4 can.04:51
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: ...so the System partition isn't the bootloader, then?04:51
spupuser2good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"04:51
Golfgeoinstalling it a bitch untill you're past the partitioning fase whahha04:51
MaccerRelondo:  Just check which partition has the boot flag or property set in gparted.04:51
wilee-nileeRelondo, most like the boot is on both so you can run the recovery04:51
MaccerExtended partitions are also known logical partitions BTW.04:51
wilee-nileelikely*04:51
s0126hwhat is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/4136004:52
GolfgeoBut guy's, thanks for the help with my questions! Me is off to the rubberwalled room I call my PC Lab ;) have a great day! :)04:52
MaccerUsing the windows system recovery, you could write the MBR to your main Windows partition temporarily.04:52
MaccerBai bai Golfgeo o/04:52
Maccers0126h:  Context?  What is the output of this from?04:52
wilee-nileeRelondo, we could see, but removing sda1 would mean you would have to do partition moving that may brick the windows.04:52
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Says the system partition is boot. Is it the bootloader, or something critical to Windows itself?04:52
s0126hmaccer did you click the link?04:52
jribs0126h: google "awk sum column" :x04:53
MaccerRelondo:  It's not necessarily critical, you can always change it.  But without prior modification, you'll need it to boot into Windows.  This would actually be a nice place to write GRUB in.04:53
Maccers0126h:  Yes, I don't understand where this output is from.  Plain text?  Some CLI excel?04:54
luftikussYesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?04:54
s0126hmaccer .txt04:54
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: But I need significant modification to boot Windows from GRUB on that partition, right?04:54
wilee-nileeRelondo, hard to say exactly different manufacturers set them up differently, most likely it has the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /  and is tied to the recovery04:54
Maccers0126h:  Do what jrib suggests then, or something like this: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers.04:54
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: This smells of an anti-Linux move.04:54
MaccerNot necessarily, just OEM proprietary bullshit.  Most likely for some tech support scheme.04:55
MaccerErr, my language.04:55
MaccerBut yeah.04:55
wilee-nileeRelondo, grub will pick it up it is whether you will be able to run the recovery I would worry about. Do you have a clone of the W& and a recovery or install disc?04:55
wilee-nileeW7*04:55
MaccerSo you could put GRUB there, but now we have to know what we can free up to put that single logical/extended partition there.04:55
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: The install is brand new. I don't need anything off of it, so data loss isn't really an issue.04:55
MaccerOh.04:56
wilee-nileeRelondo, it is not data loss it is having a backup in case you can not access the recovery.04:56
MaccerDelete something that's not Windows 7.  Recovery partitions are things just to make the consumer feel like he has a back up plan for tech support.04:56
Delta|MacHi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.04:56
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: OS loss is, however. Can I redeem the serial number on the bottom of the laptop online for a download of Windows?04:56
MaccerSo tech support can "recover" data from said partition.04:56
MaccerDelta|Mac:  It does not?04:56
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Oh, got it.04:57
Delta|MacMaccer: no very limited infomation I can find out.04:57
s0126hwhat is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/4136004:57
TaJMoXQuestion: I installed Compiz Settings Manager to get the stupid wobbly windows, but compiz is using 10% cpu always now ... How do I revert to whatever it was before compiz?04:57
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: ...can I just get rid of HP Tools? I have no desire for their diagnostics.04:57
MaccerRelondo: Yes, I suppose.  Just don't delete Windows 7.04:57
MaccerRelondo:  I don't see why not.04:57
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Heh, well, that's a given.04:57
wilee-nileeRelondo, If it was me, I would clone it, remove the recovery partition, put a extended in its place and install ubuntu there.04:57
spupuser2good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"04:58
Maccers0126:  Use AWK and read http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers, or just google "awk sum column"04:58
Maccerspupuser2:  That's interesting.  You mean on the mouse or just on the desktop window?04:58
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: I don't have an external drive big enough to clone the drive to.04:58
spupuser2desktop04:59
spupuser2ty Maccer04:59
wilee-nileeRelondo, clonezilla will only clone the data, and the mbr but needs a same size partition for reinstall.04:59
MaccerRelondo:  Why would you want to do that, for back up?  It's not like a recovery partition will do you any good when your hard-drive crashes04:59
Maccer"Recovery partition"04:59
Maccerspupuser2:  Hrm... this is on the default GNOME desktop, correct?05:00
wilee-nileemost cloners do this, not a equal partition to partition save just a equal in size on the reinstall. Relondo05:00
dadisThe proper way is to add an entry to /usr/share/xessions05:00
spupuser2looking at nautilus options05:00
Maccerspupuser2:  Here's a hack you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117696305:00
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: I do not have a physical drive with enough capacity to hold the contents of the recovery partition. And a recovery partition would still do me good if Windows crashed. Obviously a crashed hard drive can't be helped much at all.05:01
Maccerspupuser2: Don't run that, I think that disables right click system wide though.05:01
MaccerRelondo:  Do you even know what's inside the recovery partition?05:02
MaccerGenerally it's just some driver files and what not.  I think it's useless IMHO.  If my windows crashes, I'd use some live boot or pre-execution environment to get my files off.05:02
spupuser2Maccer, ur awesome.  and I am glad you are here in this chat05:02
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Not really.05:02
Maccerspupuser2: aww, thanks05:03
jenheeyyyy I know this is ubuntu but does anyone use MyPaint?05:03
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Ah. So install Ubuntu on the recovery partition?05:03
MaccerNever heard of it jen, sorry.05:03
wilee-nileeRelondo, I would not mess with it tell you do have a cloned backup, or if you want to buy a disc and risk losing stuff in the future have at it. A recdovery partition is not the best insurance as well, it can get infected since it is on the same HD.05:03
PummelCan anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/05:03
MaccerRelondo:  This is what I would do if you want to save a copy of this "recovery" partition, hold on, let me look at your screen05:04
disowncurious I am wondering is winbind and winbindd (the services) linux's service to make the linux samba software function as a domain controller. Essentially is all you need on your machine samba and windbind to make your computer into a linux domain controller ?05:04
disownI am almost 99% sure it is05:04
MaccerThis recovery partition is /dev/sda3 (#3) is right, Relondo?  What about sda4 (#4)? http://i.imgur.com/tnix7.png05:05
disownlooking at the packages with dpkg -L windbind  , apt-cache search ...etc05:05
wilee-nileeRelondo, not install on the recovery partition remove it when you have a good clone and make a extended, where it was.05:05
Maccerdisown: I'm unfamiliar with samba.  You could ask around in #debian, ##linux, or #ubuntu-server05:06
RelondoMaccer, wilee-nilee: Alright. Well, thanks to both of you for your help, but I'm out. See ya.05:06
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MaccerAlrighty then!05:07
Delta|MacHi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.05:08
MaccerDelta|Mac: Ah right, so you said you don't know if this works (meaning you haven't tried)?05:09
Delta|MacI've tried for many hour.05:09
Delta|MacCould you help me understand, The card chipset says CMI8786 but lspci says it's 8788 ?05:10
BentFranklinI ssh from A to B using keys.  Now I want to ssh from C to B.  Do I run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id again on C? Or can I just copy the private key from A to C?05:10
MaccerAh, so it doesn't work.  According to the ALSA wikipedia it says: "This hardware has no volume controls; use PulseAudio. Front panel, HP, and microphones do not work. "05:10
MaccerBentFranklin: I think the existing key should work, yes05:11
BentFranklinMaccer: Thanks05:11
MaccerDelta|Mac:  Run this command in a terminal please: 'cat /proc/asound/version'05:12
MaccerTell me the output.05:12
Delta|MacMaccer: Thanks,although I have read some have it working on ubuntu which brought me here after installing ubuntu :)05:12
luftikussYesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?05:14
Delta|MacMaccer: The version is 1.0.25 on kernel 3.2.0-2905:14
PummelCan anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/05:14
MaccerDelta|Mac:  According to the wiki, it says you need 1.0.26.  Find a way to get that alsa version, or upgrade to 12.10 alpha.05:15
MaccerI'll help you in a sec Delta|Mac.05:15
Delta|MacMaccer: Thank you.05:15
Maccerluftikuss:  Try connecting via 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'05:15
rgenitoi'm running ubuntu 12.04 headless, and i just plugged in a usb flash drive05:16
MaccerPummel:  Is there more to this output?05:16
rgenito....and i'm kind of let down to see that it wasn't automatically mounted :(05:16
rgenitois there a package i need to install in order for my usb flash drives to automatically mount?05:16
rgenito(fuse usb something?)05:16
TrollingForSoupIn UBuntu? You shouldn't need anything.05:16
Maccerrgenito:  udev, I believe.05:17
MaccerHe's using the headless version.05:17
rgenitoMaccer: what is this about udev?05:17
rgenitoapt-get install udev?05:17
MaccerYup.05:17
rgenitohmm, "udev is already the latest version" :|05:17
MaccerHrm...05:17
rgenitoudevd?05:18
rgenitops aux |grep udevd  ... with this i can see that there are 3 instances of it running05:18
rgenitonot sure if that is normal :D05:18
MaccerYou can try autofs, rgenito.05:19
rgenito"autofs"?05:19
MaccerYup.05:19
rgenitoah, i see afuse...05:20
luftikussMaccer, '/connect irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP."05:20
Maccerluftikuss:  Try the command05:20
rgenitoty Maccer, ima try this out :D05:20
Maccer'/server irc.ubuntu.com'05:20
MaccerIf this does not work luftikuss, attempt: 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'05:20
crimsonmaneluftikuss: also try "/newserver <servername>05:21
crimsonmaneif using xchat, press CONTROL S for the easy way05:22
MaccerHe's using weechat.05:22
MaccerDelta|Mac: Alsa 1.0.26 hasn't come to the repositories yet.  You might have to compile your own or use a custom .deb package05:22
Maccerrgenito:  You could also try psydm which is graphical.05:23
luftikussMaccer, '/server irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "iirc: unknown option for "server" command"05:23
TrollingForSoupYou know, I should probably use a vhost...05:23
TrollingForSoupAnyone kind enough to tell me how?05:23
TrollingForSoupI forget; it's been awhile.05:23
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MaccerErr, do you have one requested for freenode?05:24
TrollingForSoupNope.05:24
Delta|MacMaccer: I have attempted but failed.05:24
TrollingForSoupHow would I do that?05:24
MaccerTrollingForSoup: Ask on ##freenode I believe.  But they only hand it out for a select people.  I don't remember.05:24
TrollingForSoupOh, really?05:24
TrollingForSoupYou can't just automatically have one?05:24
TrollingForSoupWell, I don't feel as stupid then.05:25
luftikussMaccer, '/server irc.freenode.net/ubuntu' obtains: "iirc: unknown option for "server" command."05:25
rgenitoMaccer, know out to get autofs to automatically mount mah sheit? @_@05:25
icequeenIs there a way to detect on which (of two) hard drives Grub is installed?05:25
MaccerDelta|Mac:  Your sound card has experimental support in Linux which is only available in alsa ALSA 1.0.26 (not released yet) and Kernel 3.505:25
Maccerluftikuss: try '/connect irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'05:26
Delta|MacMaccer: Thank you for the information. I have no idea on how to obtain or upgrade to 1.0.26 or kernel 3.5. Which I'm googling for 1.0.26 but can't find infomation.05:26
physically_fitwho here speaks turkish, help me translate 4 words. thanks.05:27
MaccerDelta|Mac:  It should come out soon.  But not now obviously.05:27
hsidhuMy hard drive was set to IDE mode and I just changed it to AHCI. I am not able to see my windows partition in the "install section". All it says is /dev/sda05:27
hsidhuI also removed my 2 tb hard drive05:27
hsidhuso now it's just my 1 TB hard drive with 2 partitions05:28
luftikusscrimsonmane, '/newserver irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "Error: unknown command "newserver"."05:29
hsidhuMaccer: I removed my hard drive. I changed from IDE to AHCI. Now all i see is /dev/sda05:29
PummelMaccer - yes, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140522/ for the whole thing...05:29
icequeenHi, is there anyway to find out where Grub is installed?05:30
luftikussMaccer, This obtains: " irc: unable to create server "irc.freenode.net/ubuntu"."05:30
luftikussicequeen, Use locate05:31
Maccerhsidhu:  I didn't suggest that, lol.  I have no clue then.05:31
luftikussicequeen, »locate« is a command.05:31
hsidhuMaccer: :(05:31
icequeenluftikuss just "locate grub"?05:32
luftikussicequeen, yes.05:32
MaccerPummel:  Give me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.lst file05:32
Maccer(the output)05:32
physically_fit!tu05:32
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physically_fit!es05:32
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:32
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ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.05:32
icequeenluftikuss okay, I ran the command but it doesn't tell me whether it's on sda or sdb.05:33
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PummelMaccer:  Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140524/05:35
GolfgeoMe is back :)05:36
Golfgeogot another question05:37
MaccerPummel:  Try running 'sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*'05:37
Golfgeodoes the filemanager of ubuntu (xubuntu for this install) use MB or MiB?05:37
MaccerPummel:  And then 'sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update'05:37
MaccerIf that fails Pummel:  Give me the output on /var/lib/dpkg/status05:39
hamiltontDoes anyone else notice the "restart" option missing from the networking service in 12.04 server?05:40
hamiltontIt's got start and stop, but no restart05:40
MaccerThat would be odd.05:40
PummelMaccer:  That file is huge, you want the whole thing?05:41
hamiltontLooking at the init.d script - I'm seeing the case for force-reload and restart is still there, but it's got a log_warning_msg "Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not enable again in some interfaces"05:42
MaccerThat depends how huge... if we're talking about 500+ for approximation, give me lines 1-100.  I assume it didn't work?05:43
PummelNo, it didn't and I'm sure it's more than 500 lines05:43
hamiltontOk…it seems to run with the restart option. Should my SSH session stay alive? That's kind of awesome.05:43
PummelWhat specifically are you looking for in the first 100 lines so I can make sure I get it05:43
Maccer1-100 will do, I suppose.  I just need lines around #205:43
MaccerAgain, I just need an approximation.  There's an issue with #205:44
MaccerActually uhh.05:44
KatsumeBliskAnyone use Grive for Google Drive? If so, how is it as an alternative until Google (hopefully) releases a client?05:44
MaccerPummel:  If you could find lines that contain either "libasound2" or "UsePackage2"05:44
Pummelok, will start looking now05:45
MaccerPackage: libasound2 maybe05:45
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bond_the command is asking for password prompt. How to avoid it?---> echo 'mypassword' | sudo bash script.sh05:51
PummelMaccer:  here you go... is it the " between ok and installed?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140542/05:51
MaccerHow to avoid the prompt?  That would depends on how it works05:51
MaccerPummel:  Replace that line with 'Status: install ok installed'05:52
MaccerSave and attempt to update05:53
Pummelok05:53
bond_Maccer: i am calling that command from a script. Any way to avoid password prompt?05:53
myke_Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?05:54
Maccerbond_, the sudo prompt right?  No, I don't think so.05:54
MaccerYou'll have to run the script as root before hand to avoid it05:54
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bond_Maccer: the script is being called from java pogram. I am running java program as sudo.. still it isnt working05:55
MaccerOh, so you need java to call it as root or sudo?05:55
bond_yes Maccer05:55
lingolatzHello all, I am doing a survey as part of a high school project. I need some Linux users to complete the survey. The survey takes less than three minutes. If you can, the survey is found at: fluidsurveys.com/surveys/lingolatz/linux-questions-for-linux-users/05:56
gr33n7007hunity --reset unity --replace05:56
MaccerTwo options, 1. run the java program as root. 2. Use a graphical sudo prompt like 'gksudo' (but you'll still have to input your password)05:56
bond_Maccer: 2nd option not feasible and already done 1st option.. its not working.05:57
Benkinoobywill hyperthreading technology in CPUs make a difference for linux?05:58
PummelMaccer:  That fixed the initial problem :)  The reason it got that way was it crashed out of an upgrade from 11 to 12 and I just haven't been working on fixing it until now05:58
MaccerBenkinooby:  Possibly, why would it not?05:58
MaccerPummel:  Oh, I guess that makes some sense.05:58
Maccerbond_, mh... I'm not sure there.  You could also try setting the setuid bit of the shell script to root, but that's extremely dangerous.  Ask on #linux, they should know more about this topic05:59
MaccerIf you do the setuid method, anyone will be able to run it as root.06:00
myke_Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?06:00
bond_Maccer: i am the only user\06:00
crimsonmanemyke_: did you check the hardware compatibility list?06:00
Maccerbond_: Still.  Anything or anyone can run it.06:01
bond_true06:01
bond_anyway thanks :)06:01
MaccerEven lindsay.lohan.naked.sh or /usr/bin/explicit-content06:01
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PummelMaccer:  Now I get this error when I try to upgrade the files I have... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140549/   is this hopeless?06:09
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MaccerPummel:  Uhh, I don't see an error, just warnings.06:11
MaccerDid you paste the entire thing?06:11
Pummelyes06:12
MaccerAnd segmentation faults... that's not good.06:12
MaccerPaste all the package containers from /var/lib/dpkg/status that dpkg complains about06:13
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Pummelthose 3 (2 are the same) ok06:14
MaccerTry 'sudo dpkg -P apg  && sudo dpkg -P git-core && sudo dpkg -P speech-dispatch'06:14
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Maccerhttp://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianproblem.htm (Rescue using dpkg) could be possibly of use06:17
PummelMaccer:  Here is the info for apg from the status file - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140558/06:18
MaccerDid you try that (those) commands?06:18
Pummeldoing it now06:18
Pummelit gave me two warnings but no errors06:20
PummelHere it is... :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140561/06:21
tech1im making a script that does lots of things including installing multiple software packages, instead of in the script doing "sudo password apt get" for each one, is there a way to declare the whole script a sudo?06:21
tech1and when on some of them there is a Y/N confirmation prompt, will that confirmation be redirected to the terminal i run the script from? or how could i automaticaly make the script say Yes06:22
trijntjetech1: apt-get install package -y06:23
tech1ill try that thanks06:23
trijntjeand I think sudo has a memory of 15 min I think, so if the script runs for a few minutes it should be no problem06:23
tech1ahhh i see. thats good to know thanks :)06:23
ParkerRWhat's the "Addition drivers" program name if I were to start it from terminal?06:24
ParkerR*Additional06:24
trijntjejockey06:24
ParkerRThanks06:24
MaccerPummel:  I really recommend you check out that debian page though, can I see a copy of git-core though?06:25
PummelMaccer:  There is no more error of git-core.  You still want me to search for it and past it?06:27
Pummelof = for06:27
MaccerOh, nah that's alright.  What about upgrading?06:27
Pummelis that in the link you gave me?  I'm going to go read that now06:27
icequeenHi, does anyone here have experience with installing the BURG bootloader?06:28
oldwzdgrub?06:28
wilee-nileeicequeen, yes06:28
icequeenoh hey wilee-nilee! by the way, I never got the chance to thank you for your extraordinarily help and advice the other day. everything went very well!06:30
wilee-nileeicequeen, now problem, did you install burg and it is not showing?06:30
icequeenwhen I boot up my computer, grub pops up and I can choose between windows and ubuntu. i just tried to install burg but grub still pops up [wilee-nilee]06:31
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wilee-nileeiceq you have to load it to the mbr sudo burg-install /dev/sdX  X is the HD make sure that is correct sudo fdisk -l will identify the HD no partiton numbers just the sdX06:32
wilee-nileeicequeen, so it could be sda or sdb...etc depending on how many HD's you have.06:33
luftikussicequeen, '~$ mount'. Look for a single ' / '.06:33
wilee-nileeicequeen, I missed your full nick on the instructions, oops.06:34
icequeenwilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140571/06:34
wilee-nileeicequeen, so make sure it is installed since you wil be over writing the mbr.  sudo burg-install /dev/sdb  the run sudo update-burg   and the partition list should show.06:35
yam_hey how an i send private message in forums chat?06:36
icequeenwilee-nilee command not found06:37
icequeenwilee-nilee i've been trying with the Burg manager06:37
nothingspecialdo you mean the web chat interface yam_06:37
wilee-nileeicequeen, which one the install is a standard command if you were loading grub to the mbr it would be sudo grub-install /dev/sdb06:38
icequeen"sudo: burg-install: command not found"06:38
yam_I want to send a message to specific person who is online in forum. dont like to write whole the conversation in public chat.06:39
nothingspecialsend a private message on the forums yam_ by right clicking the username or do you want to do it in irc06:39
icequeen"sudo: burg-install: command not found (wilee-nilee)06:40
wilee-nileeicequeen, you running this in the terminal with the burg manager closed.06:40
icequeenwilee-nilee yes06:41
wilee-nileeicequeen, I have to wonder if you have burg actual installed run sudo apt-get install burg06:41
wilee-nileeactually*06:41
yam_nothingspecial  cant see any option for private messageing in right click06:42
nothingspecialin irc you would type /msg whoever but most people don't like pms and might ignore them. You should ask first.06:44
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wilee-nileeicequeen, here is what I have installed from synaptic06:45
wilee-nileehttp://imagebin.org/22415606:45
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wilee-nileeicequeen, my burg setup gets loaded by adding it from a multi loader usb loader so I'm not sure what is in the repos.06:46
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icequeenwilee-nilee I will reboot06:46
voldymani ran this command by mistake http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR now when ubuntu loads it shows kernel panic message.06:47
wilee-nileeicequeen, did you load it and get the grub.cfg partition list with the update?06:47
wilee-nileeburg list that is doh06:48
icequeenwilee-nilee how do you know it's sdb and not sda?06:50
wilee-nileeicequeen, Your link showed linux in the sdb HD.06:51
theadminAlright, I have a *big* problem here: FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Invalid argument06:51
theadminIt used to work until today morning -_-06:51
theadminAnd without it my wireless ain't working.06:51
voldymanguys can any one help. i ran http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR by mistake06:51
wilee-nileeicequeen, from your link /dev/sdb2   *        2048   943218687   471608320   83  Linux  sdb is the HD sdb1 is the partition, you are just goint to load the HD sdb06:52
wilee-nileegoing*06:52
voldymanguys i cant run ubuntu cuz i ran `sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | head -n -1) --assume-yes` by mistake06:55
theadmin!danger06:56
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!06:56
wilee-nileeicequeen, you might need to install the burg ppa to get all the packages for 12.0406:56
wilee-nileehttps://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/burg06:56
theadminvoldyman: Basically, you removed your kernel. Chroot into your install from a livecd and reinstall it.06:56
linusehey there06:58
theadminUgh. Any help with broadcom's "wl" module not loading?06:58
linusemy desktop just burnt06:58
theadminIt's installed from the bcmwl-kernel-source package.06:58
linuseI just got the hard drive06:58
linuseO was wondering if I could get the mac address from the log file?06:58
linuseI had ubuntu jaunty on it06:58
linuseanyone know if the mac address could be anywhere?06:59
trijntjelinuse: you are not making sense, what mac adress? You were talking about your harddisk before07:00
Hx12021hey07:00
linusewell I have the hard drive of the machine07:00
linuseand I wanna get the mac address of the machine from the drive07:01
linuseI was wondering if it could be anywhere on the drive?07:01
Hx12021i need some help with my new ubuntu installation07:01
trijntjelinuse: computers done have a mac adres, do you mean the mac adres of the internet card?07:01
Hack_SYPhello07:01
Hx12021heyyy07:01
linuseyeah the eth107:01
linusethe computer is burnt07:01
linuseso the drive is my only hope07:02
Hack_SYP´ó¼ÒºÃ07:02
Hx12021anyone here to have a fun chat?07:02
trijntjelinuse: why do you need to know the mac adres? You could look in the logs of your router07:02
Hack_SYPyeah07:02
wilee-nileeHx12021, chat is in #ubuntu-oftopic07:02
theadminI'll try rebooting...07:02
Hx12021ohh sorryyy07:02
linuseI dont have any router it was plug on a large network07:03
wilee-nilee#ubuntu-offtopic07:03
linuseand it was a while ago07:03
Hx12021hey is it safe to chat in irc channels?07:03
Hack_SYPok Can I see the speech07:03
linusetrijntje: do you know any log that could contain the eth1 mac address?07:04
wilee-nileeHx12021, some yes this is support07:04
Hack_SYPoh please07:04
Hack_SYPwilee-nilee   i07:05
Hack_SYPi need some help07:05
Hx12021what do u wanna know ?07:05
linusedmesg maybe?07:05
Benkinoobyhi, where can i get advice if i want to buy a new desktop computer for ubuntu? (to avoid driver or compability issues)07:05
Josh3573458347Can someone help me install xubuntu on my laptop?07:05
trijntjelinuse: i don't know, sorry. Try some of the files in /var/log07:05
Josh3573458347It has to be the 64 bit version07:06
Josh3573458347Hello?07:06
Hack_SYPhello07:07
Hx12021hey benkinooby.as far as i know.most of the hardware are supported in ubuntu07:07
Hack_SYPjosh357307:07
Hx12021just make sure you avoid prolink modems07:07
Josh3573458347Can you help ,e07:07
BenkinoobyHx12021, that's the theory :P07:07
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, here is the ubuntu install wiki xubuntu is the same.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation07:07
Josh3573458347I need help to put Xubuntu on my laptop07:07
Josh3573458347Can someone guide me through how you do it?07:08
Hack_SYPi can Try to help you07:08
Josh3573458347Ok07:08
Hx12021describe more about the purpose of purchasing the new machine07:08
Hack_SYPHx1202107:09
Hack_SYPcan you seek my speak07:09
chemickhow to use nmap to find open ports?07:10
Hx12021Avoid intel graphic cards,prolink modems,and some old models of canon printers07:10
Hack_SYPoh no no no07:11
Hx12021y not?07:11
wilee-nileechemick, try #nmap07:12
chemickwilee-nilee thx07:12
wilee-nileechemick, no problem small channel but it is their baby.07:13
peetaur2chemick: I would point you to "man nmap" rather than a channel.07:14
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, trying to guide someone through a install can turn into a long drawn out affair, do you have whatever OS that is on there completely backed up like a clone?07:14
Josh3573458347Can someone help me?07:15
Josh3573458347Is there anyone here?07:15
Josh3573458347Hello???07:16
* peetaur2 is not here07:16
theadminUgh. Why the heck was the backports repo enabled by default on Kubuntu?!07:16
peetaur2!ask07:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:16
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, look above your last post07:16
theadminI think that's why broadcom broke..07:16
Josh3573458347oh sorry07:16
Josh3573458347I need help to put xubuntu on my laptop07:16
Josh3573458347it has to be through a flash drive cause my disc drive is broken07:16
dvolkerwhat's an acceptable sysadmin salary for someone coming from the windows side of things?07:17
theadmindvolker: That's offtopic07:17
theadminJosh3573458347: There's a guide on ubuntu.com for that.07:17
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, do you have whatever OS that is on the computer now completely backed up, preferably a clone?07:17
Josh3573458347It had windows xp but its gone now07:17
Josh3573458347I did something wromg and put unbuntu server on it07:18
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, so all you want and need is xubuntu07:18
Josh3573458347Yea07:18
bekksJosh3573458347: Why should that be wrong?07:18
Josh3573458347Because i want the os07:18
Josh3573458347not server07:18
bekks"sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"07:18
Josh3573458347huh?07:18
bekksOne command, and you'll get xubuntu.07:19
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, boot a xubuntu disc hit instal and follow the instructions, I would open the gparted partitioner before hitting the install and just delete any partitions first.07:19
Josh3573458347i cant boot with a disc07:19
bekkswilee-nilee: No need for reinstalling.07:19
Josh3573458347it has to be with a usb drive07:19
bekksJosh3573458347: Log in, and issue that command.07:19
wilee-nileebekks, ?07:19
peetaur2Josh3573458347: as bekks implies, the only differences between xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu server, etc. are packages selected.07:19
bekkswilee-nilee: HE has to issue ONE command to get xubuntu.07:19
Josh3573458347i tryed to select the right package07:19
wilee-nileeJosh2838383, then boot the usb and do the same07:20
Josh3573458347it sends me back to the server07:20
theadminugh. Is there any channel for *normal* Ubuntu problems instead of this newbie stuff -_-07:20
theadminBecause I'm in a rush07:20
peetaur2theadmin:  :D07:20
Josh3573458347sorry -_-07:20
bekksJosh3573458347: What does "it sends me back" mean?07:20
wilee-nileebekks, basically .07:20
Josh3573458347Like when i try to reinstall the whole thing07:20
bekksJosh3573458347: Did you log in with the user you created, and issued the command I gave you?07:20
theadminJosh3573458347: Basically, log in and run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"07:20
Josh3573458347i dont know how to log in though07:21
Josh3573458347it never works07:21
theadminJosh3573458347: Uh, when you boot it displays something along the lines of "HOSTNAME login: ", just type your username in07:21
wilee-nileebekks, The user was asking for a install I have no info about a install already, but thanks for sharing.07:21
Josh3573458347It doesnt say host name07:21
Josh3573458347it says the name of my wifi network07:22
theadminJosh3573458347: It can say whatever.07:22
Josh3573458347I type in my username though07:22
Josh3573458347and it doesnt work07:22
bekksJosh3573458347: Then you are typing the wrong password.07:22
Josh3573458347it doesnt let me type a password in07:22
Josh3573458347after i type my username in it doesnt let me type a password in07:23
Josh3573458347and after a few secs it says incorrect07:23
theadminJosh3573458347: It won't show anything, it does let you type it in.07:23
bekksAfter booting your computer - can you please take a screenshot with your mobile phone or something?07:23
caixawhat is Wayland System Compositor07:23
Josh3573458347bekks ok07:23
Josh3573458347how do i send it to you07:23
bekksBy uploading it somewhere.07:23
MeikelGood Morning guys ! You can say me a Free Anti Viren Programm ?07:24
Josh3573458347omg everythings fucked up07:24
theadmin!antivirus | Meikel07:24
ubottuMeikel: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus07:24
bekksJosh3573458347: Please watch your language.07:24
wilee-nilee!virus | Meikel07:25
ubottuMeikel: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus07:25
theadminwilee-nilee: You're late.07:25
theadmin:P07:25
wilee-nileetheadmin, I'm only slighly watching the channel. hehe07:26
wilee-nileeslightly*07:26
Josh3573458347ok so when i turn my computer on it goes to a black screen07:26
theadminEither way, I shall repeat again: broadcom-wl won't load. I have no idea how to install the broadcom-sta package either.07:26
gr33n7007htheadmin, apt-get install broadcom-sta-common07:28
theadmingr33n7007h: Wish it was so simple, it doesn't auto-build the module -_-07:28
gr33n7007htheadmin, You on 12.0407:29
theadmingr33n7007h: Yes07:30
gr33n7007hwhy dont you use b43 drivers07:30
MeikelOne question guys. I take my USB-HDD and try to start it. Than it only make "Piep, Piep, Piep,...." Somebody know why ? There are all my Pictures on :/07:30
theadmingr33n7007h: Because, well, they won't load07:30
theadmingr33n7007h: Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140622/07:32
gr33n7007hmmmm.....07:34
icequeenI am having big trouble installing burg07:35
theadminicequeen: And just what exactly is wrong with GRUB?07:36
icequeenI'm getting this error when I'm trying to install BURG http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140625/07:37
theadmingr33n7007h: So any idea? I'm desperate to get this working... I'm thinking to reinstall but this is a 64-bit system and so the !clone command ubottu provides won't work, and I hardly remember what I installed anymore07:37
icequeenCan anyone help me install BURG?07:38
gr33n7007htheadmin, got me!07:38
theadmingr33n7007h: ?07:38
gr33n7007htheadmin, beyond me07:38
theadmingr33n7007h: Eh, I see... Bwah. Well, I'll reinstall, just gotta backup my /home somewhere07:39
FishFaceI don't think this is fixable. 12.04. Did 395 updates. I was always at 64 bit. Now it shows 32 bit. Any ideas?07:40
peetaur2FishFace: Where does it show 32? What does uname -a tell you?07:42
FishFacepeetaur: I cant do it now. Not on the OS. System Info shows that.07:42
FishFaceThe GUI07:42
FishFaceBut I will do uname when I boot to it07:42
peetaur2can you look at the disks?07:43
theadminFishFace: Did you install a 32-bit kernel accidentally?07:43
FishFacetheadmin: Possibly. I just went with the flow on the updates that was provided.07:44
FishFaceThing is now, it drags incredibly slow also.07:44
theadminFishFace: Hm, then that wasn't supposed to happen07:44
crimsonmaneas far as i know, updating does not change your kernel. you have to do that specifically07:44
theadminOh well, I'm off to reinstall.07:44
FishFacecrimsonmane: Umm hmm. Well, it wasnt intentional. I didnt read all the 395 updates. Just let it ride.07:45
FishFacepeetaur: Will ext2fsd let me view what you ask?07:46
peetaur2FishFace: is that a windows thing? if so, I would not trust it unless you've tested it. It might damage the file system.07:47
peetaur2I would only trust it if it has a "read only" option07:47
peetaur2or if the overwhelming opinion from its users is that it is safe no matter what windows version you have.07:48
crimsonmaneFishFace: kernel upgrades do not show up in those updates.07:49
crimsonmanethat's all i'm sayin07:49
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Guest9236Creative Live! Cam Voice not recognized07:49
FishFaceI see. I'm pretty sure I saw the kernel update wizz by. But maybe not. I'll boot to it now and see if I can land back in the chat07:49
crimsonmanei suppose i could be wrong07:50
crimsonmaneFishFace: boot and hold shift to enter the kernel selection07:50
FishFaceOK. Brb and I'll do the uname thing07:50
FishFaceWill do07:50
crimsonmaneyou'll see how many kernels there are.07:50
FishFacek07:50
inininhmm07:50
inininhmm07:52
suluckypennhello07:53
suluckypennI am new in ubuntnu07:53
qlme too07:53
suluckypennmy english is poor07:54
qlAre you  programmer?07:54
suluckypennno07:54
suluckypennI just interesting in linux07:55
FishFace32 bit here ;)07:56
suluckypennwhere are you from ?07:56
suluckypennfriend07:56
FishFaceuname -a shows 32 bit07:57
qlChongQing07:57
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suluckypenn我是广东的,呵呵07:57
FishFaceAlso. I had the first option (with shift) to 3.20-29. I picked 3.20-24 which leaves me in the same state.07:57
TJ-FishFace: I missed it earlier; what's the problem you're facing?07:58
FishFaceTJ-, 395 updates yesterday. I was 64 bit. Now its showing 32 bit and running slower than ever07:58
TJ-FishFace: wow! Is that 12.04 ?07:59
FishFaceYes. LTS.07:59
TJ-FishFace: Are you able to pastebin some text for me?08:00
FishFaceNothing here I would lose is critical mind you. I could just start over again. The thing is would this happen again with massive updates?08:00
FishFaceTJ-, Sure08:00
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TJ-FishFace: Do "cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit"  ... it'll give you the link to the pastebin it has been sent to; just copy that link to here08:02
FishFaceWhoops. patebinit not installed. But I can copy it in anyway to the site08:03
jddebugI just did updates for 12.04 and now I can't see any of my apps. Can't even find terminal in the Dash Home when doing a search08:04
TJ-FishFace: strange. I thought it was installed by default - its well worth it. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"08:04
trijntjejddebug: what icons do you see in the bottom of the dash window?08:05
FishFaceTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140648/08:06
jddebugHome, ruler pencil, paper music and video.  Wait, just did a second restart and the apps have returned.08:06
icequeenHi, how can I remove Grub and/or Burg from a hard drive?08:06
jddebugThats odd08:06
icequeenI accidentally installed it on the wrong one08:06
TJ-FishFace: thanks, I just wanted to confirm the CPU was 64-bit ;) ... now ... can you pastebin the file "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" please?08:07
trijntjejddebug: sometimes if you begin typing before all the lenses (programs behind the icons) have loaded you won't find anything. This only happens the first time you start the dash afaik08:07
icequeenWell, acually, the problem is Burg boots up but I can't access Windows08:07
jddebugtrijntje, thanks. Hope it doesn't happen again then.08:08
FishFaceTJ-, bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied08:08
FishFaceYou are trying to send an empty document08:08
bekksicequeen: There is no way to "uninstall" the MBR. The only way to fix it is to reinstall the correct bootloader to the correct MBR.08:08
TJ-FishFace: are you trying to open it in an editor? Only root has write privileges. You should be able to read the file using, for example, "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg"  ... if you have pastebinit installed now, you could simply do "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit"08:09
FishFaceI'll just paste it in08:09
icequeenbekks how do i do  that?08:10
FishFaceTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140661/08:10
icequeenbekks what do i do?08:15
TJ-FishFace: Looking at the list of previously installed kernels, that PC has always had 32-bit kernel's installed. You can see that that in the "PAE" (Processor Address Extensions - allows 32-bit to access more than 4GB of RAM) part of several entries. The non-PAE entries could be true 64-bit kernels or be non-PAE 32-bit... I want to check locally if there is an easy way to determine if those kernels are 64-bit or not. Whilst I do that, can you pastebin the file "/var/l08:15
TJ-og/apt/history.log" ?08:15
saviowhat is all gnome 3 ,gnome shell unity can anyone simplify for me08:15
FishFaceOK08:16
saviois gnome is graphical interface for linux08:16
saviowhy so diversion08:16
chervahow can I see my ssh host rsa key in encrypted variant ( like in the known hosts file ) so I can automate the adding of my server to the pc's knownhosts file08:17
FishFaceTJ-, Can't find l in /var08:18
TJ-FishFace: OK, I've found an easy way to determine the 64-bit or not of a kernel install. run this at a command line: "for f in /boot/config*; do echo -e "$f\n$(head  $f)\n"; done"08:18
TJ-FishFace: oops, the line split: it should have been "/var/log/apt/history.log"08:18
TJ-FishFace: FYI that 'history.log' is the record of updates applied... might give us a clue what happened08:19
FishFacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1140670/08:19
TJ-FishFace: OK, first thing... that pastebin confirms that PC does not have a 64-bit kernel installation. What it does have is 32-bit kernels with PAE to address more than 4GB of RAM08:20
FishFaceHmmmm08:20
Benkinoobyhi i have problems with my system time. ntp is up and running but here is the strange thing: adjust time @ 8:04, offset is 0.5ms, adjust time @ 9:51 offset is 0.4ms adjust time at 10:18 offset is 600 seconds - what?! how can this happen?08:21
TJ-FishFace: Now, what may have happened is, after the update the default booting kernel ended up being one that doesn't support PAE rather than previously when the default kernel was PAE. We can fix that I think08:21
FishFaceTJ-, Excellent08:21
bekksBenkinooby: Nothing to worry about.08:22
Benkinoobybekks, yes, because my system time wanders off as it wishes08:22
bekksBenkinooby: Then just use an NTP server and you'll be fine.08:22
Benkinoobybekks, my system time is sometimes exact, sometimes few minutes fast, sometimes several hours late and all that within one day08:23
Benkinoobybekks, i do08:23
Benkinoobybekks, at least i think i do08:23
bekksBenkinooby: Then check it :)08:23
TJ-FishFace: The 'grub.cfg' file tells me that, in fact, that PC *is* booting into a PAE kernel (it defaults to entry 0 - the first - which is "/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic-pae")08:23
TJ-FishFace: So I think we need to revisit what you think the symptoms are - they may in fact be caused by something else entirely08:24
FishFaceTJ-, Yep. That is where it goes without shift08:24
Benkinoobybekks, running "sudo  time-admin" it says "configuration: keep synced with internet server"08:24
bekkswhen the time difference is too high, or the jitter is too high - constantly - you are better of to run "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" on a regular base, like every hour.08:24
bekksBenkinooby: Check wether you have a valid config for a running ntpd.08:24
isottaHello, sorry use google translator I need help. I found myself installed (I think with the proposed updates) toolchain on ubuntu ppa r test. Since then I find myself installed ubuntu quantal 12.10 (but later appears as a guest 12.04) I can not view source software from the software center will add new ppa as apt to me by a series of errors. Sorry if I have dwelt. I do not want to reinstall everything. Maybe other u08:26
isotta  tries found themselves in this situation. Thanks for your attention. I'm Italian, I am writing to you because in the Italian channel not find any help08:26
FishFaceTJ-, We don't have to kill a bunch of time on this. If it would be easier enough to install over again that would be fine. I might add that my 2nd screen is off now also. That I can fix if needed.08:26
savioanyone08:26
TJ-FishFace: Well if you're OK to reinstall. I'd suggest if you want 64-bit to make sure you get the 'amd64' ISO image08:27
Benkinoobybekks, how can i see if my cconfiguration is valid08:27
kvhi08:27
Benkinoobybekks, that's my config http://pastebin.com/73Qspsnb08:28
FishFaceTJ-, I think that might save us a bunch of time. I will go get the ISO again.08:28
FishFaceTJ-, And I will double check the amd64. The DVD i have now that is what I wrote on it.08:29
TJ-FishFace: OK ... good luck... shout us again if you have issues :)08:29
FishFaceTJ-, Thanks bud. I will let you know if it messes up again :)08:30
Benkinoobyisotta, that is your mothertounge?08:30
bekksBenkinooby: As you can seem there is no NTP server configured - so you are not using one.08:30
Benkinoobybekks, hm, that explains stuff :P08:31
Benkinoobybekks, but what about this line? 'server ntp.ubuntu.com'08:31
isottano08:31
bekksBenkinooby: I'd not rely on any server not part of the NTP project :) https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html08:32
Benkinoobyisotta, what is your mothertongue?08:32
isottaitalian08:32
Benkinooby!taly08:33
Benkinooby!italy08:33
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)08:33
isottayes08:33
Benkinoobyisotta, go to #ubuntu-it08:33
bekksBenkinooby: Stop it.08:33
isottaok08:34
bekksBenkinooby: He told us, that he got no answer there.08:34
xiambaxWhats the latest version of ubuntu i can run on ppc?08:34
Benkinoobybekks, oh sorry, didn't see that08:34
bekksBenkinooby: It was part of his first message.08:34
chervacan ssh-keygen hash a hostname from stdin and print it to stdout08:35
bekkscherva: what are you really trying to do?08:35
minimecxiambax: ubuntu 12.10 Alpha3 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/08:35
xiambaxIts for an iMac g4 with 500mb ram08:36
xiambaxThink it would run ok?08:36
bekksxiambax: 12.04 should run on PPC.08:36
bekksxiambax: 12.10 isnt released yet, since it is in alpha status.08:36
xiambaxis there ppc for current?08:36
bekksSure.08:37
minimecxiambax: 500mb Ram is 'just enough'. I would not use the unity interface as default desktop environment. It would 'eat' half of your RAM.08:37
johnfDoes anyone know the magic incantations to do a kickstart install using EFI. I've got it booting and installing but I can't work out the partitioning to install it creates a /boot/efi dir08:37
bekksxiambax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/08:37
xiambaxI wonder if i should choose a smaller distro08:37
xiambaxsomething that will run with more speed and i could use for browsing etc08:37
bekksxiambax: Just use lubuntu or xubuntu.08:38
bekksxiambax: On a G3 there is no talking about "more speed" :)08:38
Benkinoobybekks, ok, i followed the guide08:38
chervabekks, I want to give ssh-keygen a host and I want it hashed and ready for the knownhosts file not making it then hashing it and deleting the .old file or ssh-keygen uses the rsa public key to hash the host name ?08:38
xiambaxg408:38
xiambaxlol08:38
Benkinoobybekks, now ntp will peridoically reset my system time... what happens when i don't have internet connection?08:38
bekksBenkinooby: Your clock will start wandering again, of course.08:39
bekkscherva: Sorry, I still dont understand what you are trying to achieve and why.08:39
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Benkinoobybekks, hm... strange thing is that i never noticed time problems... but suddenly (~3 weeks ago) my system clock started going very wrong - on a random basis... so i thought some of these drift files might be misconfgured (since they will be used even without internet i guess)08:41
Benkinoobybekks, do you know how to interpret drift files?08:41
chervabekks, if I type this ssh-keygen -H -f /path/to/known_hosts it finds plain text hostnames and hashes them so they are not readable I want the same but to give ssh-keygen the hostname from stdin or from a parameter08:41
bekksBenkinooby: You cant misconfigure drift files. They exist, or they dont.08:41
bekkscherva: ssh-keygen -F hostname08:42
Benkinoobybekks, if i am manually setting the time to a wrong time... won't that confuse the info in the drift files?08:42
bekksBenkinooby: Sure. Then the drift file gets invalid, NTP gets the "real time" but will not adjust your time directly, because of the drift being to high - instead NTP will slowly adjust the time.08:43
ghanothis is the message i got for updating some extras files:Failure to download extra data filesName-ar.UTF-8:08:43
chervabekks, I don't want to find them in the file I want to make them ... never mind I will make the known_hosts file and use the -H -f options08:44
idletaskHello08:44
idletask12.04: how do I make grub display the menu at boot time?08:44
Benkinoobybekks, so in that case i'll just wait until ntpd "readjusted" the drift file?08:45
bekksidletask: By editing the /etc/default/grub file08:45
bekks!grub2 | idletask08:45
ubottuidletask: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:45
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bekksBenkinooby: Thats what NTP is about.08:45
Benkinoobybekks, ok, thank you for your time and patience08:45
bekksBenkinooby: Using NTP, dont expect sudden wonders, but a time-consuming process of changig your clock nearly unnoticed.08:46
Bowblesis there a reason why my 12.04 install would use mx.archive.ubuntu.org by default in sources file?08:49
BowblesI am in the US, not in Mexico, or am I misunderstanding?08:49
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TJ-Bowbles: I think there's a test to find the 'best' archive closest/fastest to you08:51
numbertoHi guys, I have created a adhoc wifi connection btw my laptop and netbook (both ubuntu 12.04). But now I need to access my windows (netbook is dualboot) partition on netbook from laptop. Do I have to make all partition shared, or is there any other way?08:52
BowblesTJ-: do you know the command?08:52
TJ-Bowbles: It's internal to the installer, I beleive08:53
chroot__hi, i can use add-apt-repository in ubuntu?08:57
chroot__how can i install it08:57
numbertoHi guys, I have created a adhoc wifi connection btw my laptop and netbook (both ubuntu 12.04). But now I need to access my windows (netbook is dualboot) partition on netbook from laptop. Do I have to make all partition shared, or is there any other way?08:58
ghanothis is the message i got for updating some extras files:Failure to download extra data filesName-ar.UTF-8:09:03
Josh8823832Lol09:06
FalmerikDoes one recieve any kind of software feature/bug fixing upgrades other that security ones while using the current Ubuntu LTS? Specifically: There a some minor usability bugs in Liferea. Is my only chance to get rid of them to use a PPA?09:06
bestdndhow to call System Monitor from command prompt?09:07
minimecgnome-system-monitor09:08
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MarkusHFalmerik: most likely, yes.09:10
MarkusHFalmerik: releases normally get security fixes only.09:11
FalmerikMarkusH: So, Ubuntu does not handle updates the way Fedora does it. Darn, what a pity.09:12
FalmerikAlright, thanks for the info.09:12
MarkusHFalmerik: I don't know how Fedora handles update. I don't use it.09:12
idletaskbekks: OK, thanks, I have to reboot, so I'll see if that works!09:14
bestdndwhen starting chromuim, firefox or system monitor, they start and close before showing gui.  when running system monitor from command line, it tells me it terminates after "Glib::FileError"09:14
BowblesI am having an issue where when I log into ubuntu 12.04, it immedietly kicks me out09:17
BowblesI can log into the guest account without issues09:17
cfhowlettBowbles: any error messages?  and can you log in via recovery mode?09:18
BowblesI have not been able to identify any changes made which would affect this, other than possibly updating packages via apt09:18
cfhowlettBowbles: apt-update shouldn't effect you thusly unless, perhaps, an interrupted update?09:19
Bowblescfhowlett: gnome-settings-daemon fatal io error 11 in the ~/.xsession-errors09:19
Bowblesseems kind of similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193441709:20
muzzyhi there09:20
cfhowlettBowbles: try logging in via recovery then xstart (startx?)09:20
cfhowlettmuzzy: greetings09:20
minimecbestdnd: Could you try to open them in a 'guest session'? You could have a problem with your user configuration.09:20
muzzywas wondering if you could please ask a question  it might be simpe answer for you guys  but it has been doing my head in09:21
cfhowlettmuzzy: ask away with details for best results09:21
muzzyok09:21
muzzythankyou09:21
Bowblescfhowlett: do I need to go into recovery? I just switched terminals and logged in via command line09:22
cfhowlettBowbles: once in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:23
muzzyI am trying to raise the APT limit on my iphone 409:23
bekksmuzzy: Whats an APT limit on an iphone?09:23
Bowblescfhowlett: tried that before talking to you09:23
muzzyWow, you exceeded the number of package names this APT is capable of.09:23
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muzzyit is a jailbroken iphone09:24
cfhowlettmuzzy: no idea how this relates to ubuntu?09:24
muzzythe cache for cydia09:24
cfhowlettmuzzy: iphone not supported here.09:24
muzzyi am after terminal commands09:24
muzzyok09:24
muzzycould you reccomend where i could go09:25
cfhowlettmuzzy: google is your friend "jailbreak" and such similar terms.09:25
bazhang!alis | muzzy09:25
ubottumuzzy: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*09:25
muzzytried that  they are fererring to airectory wehich does not exist09:25
muzzyok  i will see09:25
muzzythankyou  asnyway  my friend09:26
cfhowlettmuzzy: best of luck09:26
muzzyi appreciate your time09:26
midohi09:27
cfhowlettmido: greetings09:27
midohi09:27
KihokkiHello there! Can anyone help me with Synaptics touchpad? The horizontal speed of touchpad is much slower than vertical. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28675/change-touchpad-horizontal-and-vertical-acceleration-sensitivity I find this answer working, but it only works in log in screen.09:27
Bowblescfhowlett: any other ideas?09:31
BowblesI don't seem to have the xstart command, even when I sudo to root09:31
cfhowlettBowbles: sorry man.  every time I've seen this, a terminal update has fixed.  could be you're dealing with a different cause than me.  ask in this channel and ubuntu forums.09:32
Bowblescfhowlett: thanks much, will continue to look into it09:33
cfhowlettBowbles: best of luck.09:33
mehdyhey09:38
FireSh3llhello09:38
cfhowlettmehdy|FireSh311: greetings09:39
FireSh3llcfhowlett:greetings to you too :)09:39
FireSh3llssup ?09:39
ryan1995Hi09:40
FireSh3llssup09:40
FireSh3llryan199509:40
cfhowlettryan1995: greetings09:40
ryan1995Nm just got Ubunutu on my computer lol09:40
FireSh3ll@ryan1995: congrats09:41
FireSh3llmate :)09:41
ryan1995This is way better then windows xp09:41
FireSh3llyes it is !09:41
FireSh3llcan anyone help me with metasploit ???09:41
FireSh3llbtw can anyone help me with metasploit ???09:41
ryan1995Ș)09:41
ryan1995do you know how to synch your keyboard with this cause some of the keys are off?09:42
FireSh3llcan anyone help me with metasploit ???09:42
ql有愿意说中文的吗?09:42
savioFireSh3ll, this is  not  metasploit support channel09:43
ryan1995Savio09:43
saviogoto #metasploit09:43
cfhowlett!ubuntu-jp|ql09:43
ryan1995Do you know how I can sync my keyboard cause some of the keys are off09:43
savioryan1995, ?09:43
ryan1995I just put xubuntu on my computer and got rid of windows xp09:44
ghanohi guys09:44
ryan1995and some of the keys on the keyboard arent working right09:44
ghanocan I lock a file on the desktop09:44
cfhowlettghano: greetings09:44
ghanogood morning09:44
ghanoall09:44
cfhowlettghano: lock as in encrypt/read/write?09:44
ryan1995can someone help me?09:45
ghanoyes09:45
ryan1995i need help09:45
ghanoeven to see by others09:45
cfhowlettryan1995: are your keys physically present and just not acting correctly?09:45
savioryan1995, which laptop09:45
FishFaceryan1995, Try going to the sidebar. All the way up top. Type in keyboard09:45
ryan1995ok09:45
ryan1995wait what sidebar09:46
FishFaceryan1995, Then go to Layout Settings09:46
qlno one chinese?09:46
FishFaceryan1995, Its on the left of the screen. Move mouse if it isn't09:46
cfhowlett!ubuntu-cn|ql09:46
cfhowlett!cn09:46
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:46
luftikuss!cn  ql09:46
ryan1995layout settings?:09:46
cfhowlett!cn|ql09:46
ubottuql: please see above09:46
FishFaceryan1995, How far did you get?09:47
mehdygreeting all09:47
mehdyhey!09:47
ryan1995im kinda confused @fishface09:47
cfhowlettmehdy: we c u09:47
FishFaceryan1995, You know where your sidebar is? On the left of the screen?09:48
ryan1995the start menu?09:48
FishFaceryan1995, Dash Home. Again, do you see the side bar?09:48
mehdyi wanna talk to some1 expert of IRC09:48
ryan1995i think?09:48
cfhowlettmehdy: sorry.  all you get are the folks who are here.  ask your question.09:49
mehdycuz i donno anything about it09:49
mehdyand iwanna learn09:49
MonkeyDustmehdy  the best way to learn is by using it09:49
mehdyand i am trying this way :p09:50
FishFaceryan1995, If you see the side bar, there are lots of icons. On the very top you should see a gray one that says Dash Home. Also, I guess we should ask you what version of Ubuntu you are using.09:50
ryan1995Im using xubuntu09:50
ryan1995The newest version i think09:51
FishFaceryan1995, Then someone else will have to help you out on the keyboard issue. I don't use xbuntu and not sure how it is laid out.09:51
ryan1995Is there someone here who can?09:51
FishFaceMaybe. Be patient and ask again.09:51
cfhowlettryan1995: essential information that is.  Settings/Keyboard/Layout/and I suspect Generic 105-key (intl) pc will fix your right up..09:51
mehdyrayan : what is your problem?09:52
ryan1995Oh thanks ȘD09:52
MonkeyDustmehdy  keep it in the channel, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat09:52
ryan1995mehdy09:52
ryan1995were you talking to me?09:52
cfhowlett!who09:53
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:53
mehdyyes09:55
userhello :)09:55
ryan1995ț09:55
ryan1995șșș09:55
userJest ktoś z Polski?09:55
somersb3hello. I am using supervisor manager and get NOEXEC error on script execution. +x is on the file, permissions is user.web, partiotion is mounter as default . What other steps I can do to trace the reason ?09:55
cfhowlett!pl|user:09:55
ubottuuser:: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.09:55
MonkeyDust!pm| mehdy09:56
ubottumehdy: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.09:56
ryan1995Fixed my keyboard :D09:57
cfhowlettryan1995: congrats.09:57
ryan1995:)09:57
ryan1995Lol09:57
MonkeyDustryan1995  how did you do it? tell it to the channel, for future reference09:57
mehdyi wanna know what is IRC and how to work with?09:57
adaminsull[ ok ] Opening Config [/Users/adaminsull/.znc/configs/znc.conf]...09:57
adaminsull[ !! ] Binding to port [1987] on host [199.116.119.70]... [ Unable to bind ]09:57
adaminsull[ ** ] Unrecoverable config error.09:57
adaminsull?09:58
mehdyi know this channel is about unutu09:58
FloodBot1adaminsull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:58
adaminsulllol09:58
mehdybut where should i ask?09:58
cfhowlett!paste|adaminsull09:58
ubottuadaminsull: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:58
ryan1995I went to settings, clicked on keyboard, went to layout, and changed they keyboard layout to English (US)/English (Macintosh)09:58
adaminsullI know but not worth it for 3 linea09:58
adaminsulllines09:58
sofrelwhat is the channel for developing new os09:58
cfhowlett!+1|sofrel:09:59
adaminsullCan u help me fix this09:59
cfhowlett!ubuntu+1|sofrel09:59
ubottusofrel: Quantal Quetzal is the codename for Ubuntu 12.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+109:59
ryan1995Im so not looking foward to later09:59
adaminsull\???????????????????09:59
ryan1995?09:59
adaminsullHow do I fix the error binding to port10:00
ryan1995Idk im new to this os10:00
adaminsullwell I use mac but on this for my irc server10:00
ryan1995oh i have a mac10:00
c0ndu17have you checked if anything else is using that port?10:00
W4spadaminsull: What is your OS? /Users can be found on Mac OS X.10:01
pozicWhere can I see what where the <prefix>.orig.tar.gz file came from? Thus, what is the upstream for a given package?10:01
aharoonhow to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution10:02
W4spmehdy: Good starting points are http://freenode.net/ and the man pages or 'help file' for your IRC client.10:03
W4spmehdy: Please consider #test on FreeNode to try something out with your IRC client.10:04
aharoonhow to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution10:05
extorIf I have a container that's running centos with a valid conf file and all and I go into /vz/private/xxx and do an rm -rf ./* and then copy /vz/template/cache/ubuntu_x86_64.gz and untar it...will the new container be OK or do I need to make some tweaks since I changed distros?10:05
martin__hey guys, can sb help? I've just installed Xubuntu 12.04 but after first start up, there was a crash report. Graphic is very poor, icons are missing, no sound. I already upgrated the system but no change.10:05
W4spadaminsull: I would check in 'Security' if your firewall allows it.10:06
someguyCould anyone give their opinion on which is more user friendly between mint 13 kde or kubuntu 12.04?10:06
adaminsullWhere is that10:06
cfhowlettmartin__: clean install or upgrade10:07
martin__someguy: I had kubuntu 12.04 and it looked perfect!10:07
someguyi'm trying to decide which is easiest for my brother to use10:08
c0ndu17martin__: you could try reinstall the graphcs drivers10:08
cfhowlettmartin__: so installed xubuntu?  Y U NO just install xfce and keep kubuntu?10:08
c0ndu17see if the problems are unrelated10:08
cfhowlett!who10:08
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)10:08
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FloodBot1!netsplit10:09
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:09
aharooncould someone help me how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partition10:09
martin__cfhowlett: first I had clear install, first start up... after that I tried to restar my EEEpc- everything the same even the report. so I saw there are available updates, then I upgrated - no change after that10:09
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cfhowlettmartin__: missing icons & such suggest a graphics issue.  Settings or non-compatible gpu come to mind...10:11
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martin__cfhowlett: hmmm, I've tried live USB and Xubuntu ran perfectly. Is there anything I can do? or do I have to install another distro10:12
cfhowlettmartin__: clarify: you clean installed xubuntu?10:13
sparklrI installed tasksel and then install lamp-server, but when i do phpinfo();  , I dont get to see mysql. i also checked that php5-mysql is installed.10:14
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someguyCould anyone give their opinion on which is more user friendly between mint 13 kde or kubuntu 12.04?10:15
martin__cfhowlett: how clean do u mean? 2 hours ago I had Kubuntu 12.04 but was heavy for my EEEpc, so I decided to install xubuntu. I've formated the partition and install there xubuntu. there is nothing but xubuntu a ist basic sw10:16
NedMan74i'm a noob and have been using ubuntu for a while now.. no probs usually10:16
BankZIs there a way to get remove the orange theme from ubuntu?10:17
BankZits really fungly10:17
cfhowlettmartin__: clear and concise.  I'm going to suggest 2 options: reinstall kubuntu and pay particular attention to installing 3rd party drivers/codecs.  Also, consider the other "light" distro: lubuntu.10:17
cfhowlettBankZ: y remove?  just don't use.10:17
BankZok, change10:18
cfhowlettBankZ: in ubuntu 12.04?10:18
BankZyeah10:18
BankZim trying ubuntu again, need it to look cool10:18
BankZ;)10:18
cfhowlettchannel:  how to change ubuntu 12.04 theme???10:18
ubuntu-studiohi10:19
BankZshould that have posted a link?10:20
cfhowlettBankZ: i'm in ubuntustudio which uses xfce as a base.  Not familiar enough with default ubuntu to advise you.  ask in channel again how to change 12.04 theme10:20
martin__cfhowlett: I dont wanna kubuntu anymore. If I try reinstall Xubuntu and leave out the field of using 3rd party drivers/codecs? Might that help? I dont lik LXDE, I prefer XFCE, so maybe Linux Mint might be good for me, as well10:20
cfhowlettmartin__: your choice.  in you reinstall, pay careful attention to what you select.  I'm pretty sure you should be able to configure a solution.  But first *you DID ensure you got a good iso with md5checksum* right?10:21
aharoonwould someone help me i have a big problem here how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution10:22
BankZchannel:  how to change ubuntu 12.04 theme???10:23
cfhowlettBankZ: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K1XIUvGMPI10:24
martin__cfhowlett: i did not check the iso. Now I'm downloading it again and I will make live USB pen from the new downloaded ISO. In installation I will not choose the option to install 3rd party drivers/codecs10:24
martin__cfhowlett: how can I check the isto?10:24
martin__*iso10:24
cfhowlettmartin__: so you checked the iso you downloaded previously and it's bad?10:24
cfhowlett!checksum|martin_10:24
ubottumartin_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows10:24
opalepatrickneed to get a big screen notebook/laptop with linux - any good review comparison site - preferable european?10:29
inininhmm10:32
inininI just installed ubuntu and my second monitor won't work10:34
martin__cfhowlett: checksums are identical!10:35
cfhowlettmartin__: means you got a good download.  Proceed as planned.10:35
martin__cfhowlett: OK, so there's no need to download it again... I'll try to reinstall it without 3rd stuff, thx10:37
cfhowlettmartin__: best of luck10:37
martin__thx, i'll let u know how i did10:37
MultiplyIs there an easy way to make wlan0 have higher priority than eth0, when it comes to internet connection? It seems it favors eth0 which is just a LAN, for everything. I'd like everything to go thru wlan0 instead.10:38
MultiplyWhile still being able to connect to other local PCs, of course.10:39
chris|Multiply, yes, go to network-manager->eth0->edit connection->ipv4 settings-> routes, add your local networks and check the "only use for these networks" box10:41
Multiplychris|: Adding each PC or the gateway?10:41
shanelootshey evryone i need some help i tried to install ubuntu through wubi but every time i try to boot into it it says "compleating ubuntu installation 3....2...1 the the screen goes black and my pc's fans all start to slowly speeed up10:42
Multiplychris|: I actually did tick the checkbox earlier, but nothing changed. (didn't know I had to add the local networks) - Now that I disabled eth0 and enabled it again, it seems to favor wlan0, without adding any networks.10:42
Multiplychris|: Well, I restarted the browser, and back to where I was before. I'll try to add the local networks10:43
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Multiplychris|: Thanks. :) It seems to work for now.10:45
chris|Multiply, you're welcome10:46
CalahanHi, I sorry maybe sombady could help me with tip. I cannot bring up network card. It says: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth010:47
CalahanOther than that i see it on lshw as RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet10:48
CalahanBut not on ifconfig10:49
MonkeyDustCalahan  it's a setting in /etc/network/interfaces10:49
MonkeyDustCalahan  type cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit and paste the url here10:49
Calahanifup eth0  results in --> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0, how does /etc/network interfaces gona help me with htat?10:50
MonkeyDustCalahan  don't start with rejecting help or advice please10:51
Calahani sorry i'll do pastebin10:51
Calahanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1140847/10:53
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Calahanwell there is auto i mean i had to ype it manualy10:53
MonkeyDustCalahan  it says euto, not auto and it is inclomplet10:53
Calahani know it is auto10:54
Calahani just had to type it manualy since cant copy form pc which network isnt working10:54
MonkeyDustdon't type manually, paste the outcome of the command10:54
MonkeyDustok10:54
_TJ_Calahan: For that device I found similar reports with a missing device. It says "The first problem was that the controller was not powering on with the rest of the system. If the device is turned off improperly it will not start again when you turn your computer back on. To fix this problem disconnect the power supply from the source for a few seconds. When you start your computer again it will work properly"10:54
crlcan81I'm using a earlier version of Ubuntu, 10.04, because of a combination of an alc887/888 realtek driver which my onboard audio card utilizes, and issies with Unity. I utilize glx-dock as my panel replacement, and can not get gnome-panel to keep shut off. Though I changed my gconfig editor to not load a panel, I'm not sure if I missed anything making sure gnome-panel is not even utilized in my system.10:54
crlcan81Is there any way of easily disabling it, for good?10:54
Tom5Hi10:55
jiohdicrlcan81, run something other than gnome like openbox10:55
cfhowlettTom5: greetings10:55
crlcan81Otherwise it'll constantly restart gnome panel?10:56
crlcan81I followed any instructions listed and it was supposed to disable the reloading of gnome panel..10:56
crlcan81Any recommendations on a replacement for 10.04 Ubuntu?10:56
jiohdiwhy run gnome if you do not want a gnome panel?10:56
jiohdicrlcan81, xfce would be one10:56
crlcan81I am still figuring exactly what I DO want.10:56
jiohdior lxde10:56
crlcan81it's been a while since I fully utilized 10.04 with what I had before.10:57
Calahan_TJ_ i have restareted many times PC it aint working anyhow. i try to google my problem but there isnt mutch that i cuold understand how to solve it sadly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160736910:57
jiohdicrlcan81, or you can try e1710:57
jiohdior just openbox10:57
crlcan81I'm thinking I've tried all of those..10:57
_TJ_Calahan: When you restarted did you *physically* disconnect from the power socket for 30 seconds or so?10:57
Calahani will pull the power cable off now10:58
jiohdiI have been round the track and after 2+ years I have settled on e17, fast light and customizable10:58
_TJ_Calahan: In many power supplies, even when you turn the PC off, it maintains a low-voltage stand-by (5 volts). That's why disconnecting can fix things you'd not expect!10:58
crlcan81I've used since 8.04 and up to 12.04, but because of the bug since 10.10 I've had dislike for anything 10.10 and up, but I might be in better luck soon.10:58
crlcan81got a possible replacement case.10:58
jiohdicrlcan81, macpup and bodhi are based on 10.410:59
Tom5I would like to add csync-owncloud from quantal to precise, but I don't want just to add the repo and get updates for all packages. I would like to add every package from quantal to a whitelist that I want to install/update. Any hints for me?10:59
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crlcan81I've tried.. god.. opensuse, and .. I forget what else, but that one that uses what's called cinniman now? and MATE?10:59
crlcan81basically I have a odd monitor choice, a HDTV, so certain resolutions don't work 'out of the box' for me.11:00
crimsonmanemint11:00
crlcan81and Ubuntu or OpenSUSE and their derivatives work out of the box.11:00
crlcan81I've done mINT too11:00
crlcan81Like I said, anything Ubuntu or SUSE derived.11:00
crlcan81I'd use Debian but I'd have to use a normal 'monitor' and tweak the desktop settings for the HDTV.11:00
crlcan81So it'll load the proper resolutions11:01
* crlcan81 thinks he liked e17 out of all of em, if he remembers right.11:01
jiohdicrlcan81, have you tried lucid puppy or macpup?11:01
crlcan81...huh?11:01
cashmoi j'ai rien trier11:01
* crlcan81 doesn't remember what's what anymore.11:01
crlcan81I know versions number.11:01
cashpuis en fait parler french aussi11:01
jiohdipuppy linux is very light and runs completely in ram11:01
cfhowlett!fr|cash11:01
ubottucash: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:01
crlcan81wait.. I think I mighta tried puppy/mcpup before..11:01
jiohdilucid and macpup both have ubuntu 10.4 support11:02
cashcommunauté d'accord si on parle aussi ma langue xd11:02
DrManhattanso far so good w ubuntu11:02
crlcan8110.4? or 10.04? :P11:02
cfhowlett!fr|cash11:02
cashyeas11:02
cashyeah plus exactely11:02
cashet les commissaire j'aime bien que l'on discute avec moi aussi11:03
cfhowlett!fr|cash Je nais parlez pas francaise11:03
ubottucash Je nais parlez pas francaise: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:03
cashJe ne reconnais pas l'anglais si on ne reconnais pas ma langue d'origine!11:04
cashok11:04
cash#ubuntu-fr11:04
cfhowlettcash /join #ubuntu-fr11:05
cashcool on parles enfin français11:06
MonkeyDust!fr| cash11:06
ubottucash: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:06
Hail_SpacecakeI'm running ubuntu on a thinkpad from a usb stick11:08
Hail_Spacecakeand the screen shut off11:08
cfhowlettHail_Spacecake: fun times.11:08
cashWow on ce calme11:08
Hail_Spacecakeand doesn't respond to mouse/keyboard to turn on again11:08
Hail_Spacecakeit's still running, I hear sounds when I adjust the volume11:08
Hail_Spacecakebut I can't force the screen to unblank11:08
cfhowlettHail_Spacecake: reboot.  change your suspend/hibernate/screensaver settings.11:09
Hail_Spacecakeanything I can do now? I have a long-running process going11:09
crlcan81Well e17 wasn't available for 10.04 in the synaptic, so I got e16 instead, and blackbox.11:09
Hail_Spacecakethat's why I stepped away fromthe machine to begin with11:09
crlcan81Gonna restart after they're done and I've done reading this, then I'll check em out11:09
cfhowlettHail_Spacecake: assume the process is still, er, processing and reboot, oh, tomorrow?11:09
_TJ_Hail_Spacecake: If that PC has openssh-server installed, and you have another PC, you could connect to it over the network using SSH11:10
Calahan_TJ_ it is very super strange, but realtek network card started to work, also see it properly now in hardware list http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140876/      Thanks for help.11:11
ssameany one know how to optimize ubuntu ?11:12
tiami installed gnome 3 with my nvidia card but it gives me error that Gnome 3 cannot be started11:12
MonkeyDustssame  define "optimize"? what do you want to achieve?11:13
_TJ_Calahan: Great! :) It's not too strange... the card stores its state internally at shut-down... if it doesn't lose all power it won't restart correctly and read its stored state11:13
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blue112Hello here11:14
cfhowlettblue112: greetings11:15
blue112I cant figure out how to change keyboard layout using gnome-shell on ubuntu 12.0411:15
blue112Ive found the option in the setting menu but it doesnt change anything11:15
blue112it just stay on english layout11:15
smwblue112, click the windows key, then type keyboard11:15
smwone of the options is a keyboard setting windows11:15
blue112smw: already done changes in that window11:16
blue112its all on french but still I have qwerty11:16
ssameMonkeyDust: faster bootup overall11:16
smwblue112, you added another keyboard?11:17
shanelootshey everyone i have no display after i select ubuntu from the boot menu i get ubuntu will finish installing and then no display. how can i fix this? i tried booting in safe graphics mode but no luck.11:17
megameHi boys :))) anyone to help me? how to mount my HDD after unmount ?11:17
blue112smw: I removed default layout and added the french onem yes11:17
bond__my structure is like this: program.java calls script1.sh. Script1.sh calls script2.sh. But script2.sh isnt woking fine. I am using pocess.waitFor() in java. Any solution/suggestion?11:18
smwblue112, no idea, that should fix it :-\11:18
MonkeyDustssame  start by not using eyecandy, also add vm.swappiness=5 in /etc/sysctl.conf11:18
blue112smw: i know that should but it does just change nothing. No way to change it from the cli ?11:19
MonkeyDustssame  don't use to many services at startup11:19
MonkeyDustssame  don't use nm-applet, rather set a fix IP-address11:19
ssameMonkeyDust: services in /etc/init.d/* rite11:19
ssame?11:19
shanelootsanyone know where i can start to fix my problem?11:20
MonkeyDustssame  don't remember how i did it at the time11:20
shaneloots?11:20
MonkeyDustshaneloots  black screen with a cursor?11:20
tiger_hey i am a tiger11:21
shanelootsno cursor at  all just plain black11:21
tiger_how a you11:21
MonkeyDust!nomodeset| shaneloots11:21
ubottushaneloots: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:21
MonkeyDusttiger_  wrong channel, not here please11:21
tiger_bodo11:21
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shanelootsthanks so much ill be lloking into that now11:22
tiger_football11:22
megameanyone to help me to mount my disk ?11:22
W4spsmw: blue112 PMFJI, you may check your .dmrc, set the params to US. Also, create another user and see if the new user is affected in the same way.11:22
cfhowletttiger_: wrong channel.11:22
MonkeyDustmegame  what happens when you try?11:22
tiger_macubuntu11:22
yaffswhy can. males get pregnant?11:22
cfhowlettyaffs: wrong channel11:22
tiger_buy windoows 811:22
blue112W4sp: all i have in my dmrc is [Desktop] Session=gnome-shell11:23
megameMonkeyDust: i unmount my HDD now not view11:23
MonkeyDustbored script kiddies are here, ignore them11:23
_cbthink I have a superblock trying to restore from live cd using e2fsck but booting back into live cd from every block recovery attempt is a pain. Any faster way?11:23
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS 811:23
MonkeyDustmegame  external HDD?11:23
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS 711:23
megameMonkeyDust: not USB - sata211:24
MonkeyDustmegame  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here11:24
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS 811:24
megamebefor tha i unlpogin and plugin in my motherboard11:24
DJonestiger_: Please don't spam11:25
MonkeyDustDJones  don't give them attention11:25
tiger_SUDO CAP NEW WINDOWS 811:25
Renegade_Could anyone tell me how to find a digitial camera from the command line?11:25
saviois 12.04 uses unity 2d11:25
cfhowlettDJones: don't feed the trolls.11:25
MonkeyDustRenegade_  try lsusb11:25
W4spblue112: That's all? Ooops. Use the following where \\ is a hard return.  Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC11:25
W4sp12:08 < cfhowlett> Hail_Spacecake: fun times.11:25
W4sp12:08 < cash> Wow on ce calme11:25
W4sp12:08 < Hail_Spacecake> and doesn't respond to mouse/keyboard to turn on again11:25
W4sp12:08 < Hail_Spacecake> it's still running, I hear sounds when I adjust the11:25
W4sp                        volume11:25
FloodBot1W4sp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:25
alankilaRenegade_: see also gphoto2 command11:25
Renegade_MonkeyDust, aha! I see it! Any idea on how to get to it? All I get is an id11:26
blue112W4sp: wait, what ?11:26
blue112bad copy/paste ?11:26
Renegade_alankila, installing11:26
MonkeyDusttype lsusb|pastebinit and paste the url here, so we can see11:27
W4spsmw: blue112 PMFJI, you may check your .dmrc, set the params to US. Also, create another user and see if the new user is affected in the same way. [Desktop]\\Language=en_GB\\Layout=us\\Langlist=en_GB:en\\LCMess=en_GB.UTF-8\\Session=<your DE>11:27
shanelootsi have a problem. it says i can use nomodeset with wubi and i used wubi to install11:27
MonkeyDustshaneloots  wubi :(11:28
cfhowlettshaneloots: the problem is?11:28
MonkeyDustshaneloots  wubi is only a pseudo-installation inside windows11:28
W4spMy apologies to all in the channel who feel offended by my large amount of paste content I put into this channel. My mouse slipped off the screen marking the IRC output. :-(11:28
blue112W4sp: im already on a new user11:28
MonkeyDustmegame  keep it in the channel please11:29
W4spblue112: Well, is it in French?11:29
megameno11:29
shanelootsso is their another way i can fix my black screen issue or enable nomodeset on boot before it tries to finish installation?11:29
blue112W4sp: nop qwerty11:29
Renegade_MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/b5JFHUVZ11:29
W4spblue112: So that's what you want, isn't it?11:29
yaffs!ops11:29
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yaffs!ops11:30
megametnx for help MonkeyDust11:30
yaffsfuck11:30
yaffs!staff11:30
ubottuHey Christel, Corey, Dave2, Fuchs, Gary, Martinp23, Myrtti, Pricey, VorTechS, jayne, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, dax, stew, tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :)11:30
DJonesyaffs: Stop that11:30
yaffs!ops11:30
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ubottuyaffs:: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.11:30
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MonkeyDustRenegade_  does nautilus see the cam, when you plugged it in?11:31
Renegade_MonkeyDust, yes11:31
_cbclear11:31
MonkeyDustRenegade_  ok, what was your initial question again?11:31
blue112brb trying to reboot11:32
Renegade_How can I get it's location11:32
_cbHaving a problem with a bad superblock. If I use the e2fsck will the destination be /dev/sda? (I let ubuntu partition my hd on install)11:32
MonkeyDustRenegade_  click on it in nautilus, what happens11:32
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS11:32
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS11:33
minimectiger_: Talk to the hand ('cause the face ain't listening)11:33
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS 811:33
DJonestiger_: You've been asked not to do that11:33
cfhowletttiger_: yo manna11:33
MonkeyDustminimec  ignore them11:33
Renegade_MonkeyDust, it just opens the folder11:33
cfhowletttiger_: yo mamma11:33
tiger_BUY NEW WINDOWS 811:33
Renegade_Properties shows nothing either11:33
Renegade_I must exist somewhere11:33
MonkeyDustRenegade_  moment, i plugin my cam11:33
Renegade_MonkeyDust, thanks!11:33
MonkeyDustit's dead, darn old cam11:34
MonkeyDustRenegade_  look in /media to see if it's there11:35
Renegade_First place I tried and nothing :(11:36
MonkeyDusttype mount11:36
Renegade_http://pastebin.com/sruR3H8M11:38
Renegade_MonkeyDust,11:38
MonkeyDustRenegade_  what's /media/STORAGE i guess it's what you want11:39
Renegade_Nah, sorry that's my HDD11:39
MonkeyDustlooks odd11:40
MonkeyDustbrb11:40
gurupilgrim_I can't install XULrunner on Ubuntu 12.04... in a terminal, typing xulrunner just returns command not found, and xulrunner does not show up in the software center11:47
cfhowlettgurupilgrim_: run apt-cache xulrunner11:47
gurupilgrim_returns Invalid operation xulrunner11:48
cfhowlettgurupilgrim_: run apt-cache *policy* xulrunner11:48
cfhowlettgurupilgrim_: sorry11:49
DJonesgurupilgrim_: Doesn't look like it exists in precise11:49
gurupilgrim_lol. returns Unable to locate package xulrunner11:49
gurupilgrim_oh11:49
gurupilgrim_well that's encouraging11:49
MonkeyDustRenegade_  no further advise for now11:49
DJonesgurupilgrim_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125980/how-do-i-install-xulrunner-in-12-0411:50
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cfhowlettgurupilgrim_: same here - and I've got all repos enabled.11:50
minimeccfhowlett: xulrunner has been removed from the repos http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Removing-XULRunner-from-oneiric-call-for-help-td708630.html http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=Xulrunner&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names11:50
cfhowlettgurupilgrim_: see minimec's post11:51
gurupilgrim_ok thanks. looks like this will point me in the right direction11:51
DJonesJust looking at the -devel mailing list, it was removed because they couldn't provide a stable xulrunner for the life of the release11:51
xubuntunoobI used the lili usb creator to set persistence, how do I mount the file system?11:51
gurupilgrim_so is that an indication that xulrunner isn't stable anymore?11:52
_cbHad a dual boot system that was working perfect. Now windows boots but ubuntu does not boot normal or in recovery mode.11:52
Renegade_MonkeyDust, I have a temporary solution using gphoto2, gphoto2 -p <file> downloads it11:52
Renegade_Thanks for your help!11:52
cfhowlett_cb: any error messages?  what happens when you attempt to boot ubuntu?11:53
_cbcfhowlett normal boot hangs recovery mode takes me to the initramfs11:54
cfhowlett_cb: any chance you've already tried reinstalling grub?11:55
_TJ__cb is that because of the bad superblock? If youve' fixed that it is possible there was corruption in data-blocks elsewhere in the file-system11:55
Dr_Willisxubuntunoob:  the persistance file? it can be mounted via the loop option in mount. same as you would an iso file.11:56
_cbcfhowlett would windows boot ok if grub was the problem?11:56
Dr_Willis!iso11:56
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.11:56
_cb_TJ_ am suspecting a bad superblock but not sure how to verify or fix11:56
Dr_Willissudo mount -o loop /path/to/the/casper-rw  /media/mysavefile11:56
xubuntunoobI don't have a CD, I'm booting from a USB11:56
cfhowlett_cb: see _tj_ 's question.  Also, yes, windows might boot fine.  I'm questioning that the ubuntu grub config didn't get scrambled somehow11:56
_TJ__cb: use "fdisk -l /dev/sda" to list the partitions, then check the valid file-systems using, for example, "e2fsck /dev/sda1"11:57
bonhoefferon 12.04, is there a way to get intel graphics (sandy bridge) working, or should i downgrade my distro?11:58
_TJ_bonhoeffer: Still having problems?11:58
bonhoeffer_TJ_, hi! yes, i've been playing with it and i think i'm out of my league11:59
bonhoefferi keep messing up xorg.conf11:59
_TJ_bonhoeffer: Last I saw you'd got it up to 1600x1200 ... have things got worse again?11:59
bonhoefferyea, i'm only getting 1024 now11:59
_TJ_bonhoeffer: video adapters are the bane of our lives!12:00
bonhoeffertrue!12:00
bonhoefferand it does look like i'm getting 1600,1200 now12:00
_TJ_bonhoeffer: but the display is native 1920x1200 isn't it?12:00
bonhoefferyes12:00
bonhoefferwuxga i believe12:01
_TJ_bonhoeffer: always best to get the native resolution with LCDs else it looses sharpness12:01
xubuntunoobDr_Willis: I'm new to this, how do I do that? Sorry for the inexperience lol12:01
bonhoefferyes -- it is pretty blury now12:01
L3topbonhoeffer: I am not sure that downgrading will provide any help at all12:02
bonhoefferL3top, hi! sorry i'm still eating bandwidth with this12:02
bonhoefferbut this worked in 11.1012:02
_TJ_It's definitely a regression12:02
bonhoefferi thought the last stable might have had this all worked out12:03
bonhoefferi really don't have the cash to buy a new graphics card12:03
L3topbonhoeffer: in 11.10 did you have a repo version of the drivers or ppa?12:03
bonhoeffernot sure -- i set it up years ago12:04
bonhoefferbut i remember it took some work then12:04
L3topI would have expected 1204 would have better/more support not less.12:04
* L3top wonders if xorg changes have something to do with this12:04
bonhoefferL3top, well i'm up for any troubleshooting12:05
bonhoefferL3top, that xorg.conf you sent yesterday was tried but didn't load12:05
gsinhi, I just installed ubuntu 12 LTS over PXE... everything's smooth but one really weird thing... whenever I disconnect VGA, ubuntu reboots randomly!12:06
gsini dont get it... how's this possible12:06
gsin?12:06
L3topRight... that is probably due to the weirdo options I chose. I was very optimistic, not conservative, with them.12:06
_cbfrom live cd I would do a sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, right? fdisk-l lists sda1 as * boot /HPFS/NTFS/exFAT12:06
L3topno _cb... /dev/sda12:07
bonhoefferhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1879121 <-- _TJ_, L3top looks promising12:07
L3top_cb: you do not want to specify a partition, it wants to be in the master boot record of the drive itself.12:07
_cbl3top got cannot find a device fro /boot /grub is dev mounted?12:08
xalimsHow can I connect to a wireless network on terminal?12:08
saviois there any alternative pdf reader where i can highlight text12:09
MonkeyDust!pdf| savio12:09
ubottusavio: The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)12:09
L3topI do not know what you have done thus far _cb... I was just answering the question... you will need to chroot into the mounted drive... bind /dev mount none sysfs then install-grub /dev/sda12:09
L3topafk12:10
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_cbthink I have a bad superblock. Won't mount via explorer12:10
savioubottu, but anyone don't provide feature to highlight text etc12:10
ubottusavio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:10
usr13_ _cb  Via explorer?12:11
usr13_ _cb Isn't explorer a MS Windows app?12:12
_cbthe ubuntu equivalent of windows explorer. Can 't recall the name12:12
usr13_O12:13
KJBnautils?12:13
KJBwait.. not sure12:13
KJByeah, thats right12:13
usr13_ _cb The file manager.12:13
_cbfile manager ;)12:13
usr13_KJB: You're right.  Nautils12:14
LorraHi everybody! I am using ubuntu to do implement a small website in which I use some xml files which I write with PHP5, I would like them to be written neatly indented rather that opening them and seeing an awful one-line blob of tags and content. Does anybody know how to do that (possibly using DOMDocument of the php library)?12:14
KJBcheers usr13_, thought i was going crazy for a mo12:14
usr13_*nautilus12:15
KJBusr13_, never actually noticed i always typo'd that12:15
usr13_That's why it didn't look right, it was a spelling error  :)12:16
KJBi setup a software raid with 2x 10k raptors yesterday, all works fine, need to get it to mount the array when it boots though12:17
KJBany ideas?12:17
KJBim guessing fstab, though im not overly confident12:17
usr13_Lorra: vim ?12:17
an0nfstab should do it12:17
Lorrausr13_, no, I'm opening those xml files to check them in this test phase with emacs12:17
usr13_!fstab | KJB12:18
ubottuKJB: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:18
_cbe2fsck fixed it ;)12:18
deciohey guys, when I try to boot from a live USB I get this Error Message, I can't install Ubuntu because of it... I have wubi, but I would like to dedicate a partition to it since it is so good! https://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/234261548103778304/photo/1/large any help?12:18
cfhowlett!paste|decio12:19
ubottudecio: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:19
KJBubottu, even though this is a software RAID it'll be fine to place instructions to mount within fstab then?12:19
KJBif so i'll have a bash at it12:19
usr13_!grub | decio12:19
ubottudecio: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)12:19
an0ndecio: try making a new live cd with YUMI12:20
usr13_decio: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub12:20
decioan0n Already did that12:20
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extrasolardecio somone had the same problem the other day12:20
extrasolarHOW are you installing it to the pen drive?12:20
usr13_decio: You more-than-likely failed to write the boot loader [grub] to MBR of primary HDD.12:20
decioubottu usr13 ok, thanks for the help. But I wipped my hard drive before installing Windows 7, are you sure I can restore grub12:21
ubottudecio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:21
an0nnot restore, but reinstall12:21
an0nboot up on a live cd (if you can?), and then install boot-repair from the ppa tualatrix/boot-repair12:21
usr13_decio:  Oh wiat, that says PXE, doesn't it.  Are you sure you have your bios set to boot the HDD?12:22
usr13_decio: First, tell us exactly what you did.12:22
deciousr13_ I have my Bios to boot from HDD first but I select F12 to get to USB12:22
an0nand you want to install ubuntu but you get an error on the install?12:23
an0nwhat exactly is the error?12:23
usr13_decio: Start from the beginning.  i.e.  I booted from install CD and ....12:23
usr13_https://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/234261548103778304/photo/1/large12:23
usr13_error  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6612:23
an0nthat means there is nothing bootable on the hdd and it's looking for another boot device12:24
an0nlike you said PXE12:24
usr13_an0n: Yea, that is the NIC trying to boot a PXE image, and not finding it.12:24
an0nok, decio: boot from your usb into a live system, and then install the boot-repair package:12:25
usr13_""PCI-E Ethernet Controller"12:25
an0nsudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/boot-repair12:25
an0nsudo apt-get update12:25
an0nsudo apt-get install boot-repair12:25
an0nthen run "boot-repair", and it will reinstall grub to the MBR of your hdd allowing you to boot again12:26
usr13_an0n: But I'm not so sure he has the BIOS set to boot the HDD.  (Doesn't look like it.)12:26
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an0nyeah but it would boot from the hard drive after not finding anything in the PXE surely?12:27
usr13_well... it first says "Missing operating system."  so....12:27
an0nyeah, that's what i think12:27
shanelootshey everyone so i have a problem. after using wubi to install ubuntu i got no display but i managed to fix that using the nomodeset comand and now it loads up past the loading screen to what looks like the desktop screen background and hangs their its just the screen background that is displayed nothing else.12:27
decioan0n: the problem is that I can't boot to the live USB12:28
usr13_an0n: Yea, I know, it usually first looks for PXE info from the DHCP server, and THEN for a HDD MBR.12:28
deciousr13_ here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1140957/12:28
cfhowlettshaneloots: reminder: wubi is a TESTING app.  It is NOT designed or intended as a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.12:29
shanelootsi thought wubi was just used to install linux does it not install the full os?12:30
usr13_decio: Did Arch boot?12:30
shanelootswell ubuntu not linux sorry12:30
deciousr13_ no12:30
MonkeyDustshaneloots  idd, it's a pseudo-install inside windows12:30
cfhowlettshaneloots: full OS, yes.  But if you want the full OS just dual boot? Question: WHY did you choose the wubi install.12:31
usr13_decio: So none of them booted?12:31
usr13_decio: First, check the bios settings12:31
deciousr13_ none of them, I even fully formated the pendrive but still nothing12:31
foobArrrsometimes my usb mouse and usb keyboard suddenly stop working for no apparent reason. after suspend or hibernate they work again. this is annoying, what's wrong there?12:31
minimecshaneloots: I guess that the unity 3d desktop is not loaded correctly. Can you use <ctrl><alt>t key combination to open a terminal? Would that terminal have window border decoration?12:32
cfhowlettfoobArrr: check the batteries on your devices ...12:32
deciousr13_ I'll set everything to Default to see if I get anything, thanks!12:32
usr13_decio: So you could not even get the USB drive to boot.  Right?12:32
foobArrrcfhowlett: cable, no batteries12:32
shanelootswould things go more smoothly if i just download and burn the disk? i used wubi because i was worried i would lose data when i boot from disk if i mess something up.12:32
MonkeyDustshaneloots  boot the live cd, use gparted to see if you have free space left to create a partition12:33
cfhowlettshaneloots: FWIW/IMHO, I've had WAY less heartache with dual booting than with wubi.12:33
shanelootsi can try getting into terminal but i need to leave here and restart the pc.12:33
usr13_shaneloots: Backup your critical data first.12:33
minimecshaneloots: <ctrl><alt>t?12:34
Rockhoundhi anyone know how to setup kickstart installation in ubuntu12:34
usr13_shaneloots: USB should work ok.12:34
usr13_shaneloots: Ctrl-Alt-F612:35
shanelootsill try thr usb method once i have downloaded the files.12:35
usr13_shaneloots: What it it doing? <again>12:35
usr13_shaneloots: It boots but ..... ?12:35
W4spfoobArrr: I would store the output of lsusb a) when they are working and when not. If both are still listed it may well down do the USB driver(s). That said, It can be a power management issue disabling your entire USB hub.12:36
OerHeksRockhound, To generate a Kickstart file, install the system-config-kickstart package and run system-config-kickstart. >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html12:36
foobArrrW4sp: k, thanks12:37
Rockhoundok12:37
usr13_Rockhound: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html12:38
W4spfoobArrr: Also, check if your USB mouse/kb show up on any search engine if they require special treatment. See usb_modeswitch(1) for details.12:38
usr13_or4n: Sorry, didn't see yours..12:38
shanelootsi thinks its trying to finish the wuib installation but it gets to the desktob and nothing else  just the desktop background.12:39
usr13_W4sp: <FYI> Those Windsufer parabloic dishes don't do anything </FYI>12:39
minimecusr13_: He (shaneloots)   enabled nomodeset in the kernel to get his GPU working in ubuntu. Now he doesn't get the unity interface. I guess 'nomodeset' kills the composite feature of his GPU... I also guess he enabled auto login and cannot logout whithout the panel. I would do <ctrl><alt>t unity-2d-panel and then logout and chosse unity 2d as sesion.12:40
usr13_shaneloots: You probably need to remove the wubi install first.  (I dono, I'm not real knowledgable about wubi._12:40
W4spusr13_: That's a shame. A friend of mine lives in a flat with shiploads of other WiFi. It works well. Sorry to hear it didn't turn out that way.12:40
MonkeyDustshaneloots  are you still inside wubi?12:41
usr13_minimec:  What does <ctrl><alt>t do?12:41
minimecusr13_: gnome-terminal shortcut...12:41
usr13_W4sp: Well, my initial testing was a flop, so... I dono.  I used the meter on my pone and it was the same with and without.12:42
en1gmadoes ubuntu support wusb600nv2 wifi adapter? i think it has ralink 3572L chipset12:42
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usr13_minimec: O12:42
W4spusr13_: That's usually a good test I would trust.12:42
usr13_minimec: Oh yea, brings up a termina. I knew that.... sorry.  Need more coffee I guess.12:43
usr13_W4sp: Yea, I have a wifi meter app that looks to be pretty accurate, I've used it for a while now.12:43
usr13_W4sp: But I did improve the location of the AP and it may be doing a little better now.  (It's at my son's house next door.  His place is bigger than mine.)12:44
W4spusr13_: Kids...12:45
usr13_... yea .... :(12:45
minimecshaneloots: Did you get my post above? Did you try that? I guess a fresh install might give you similar problems, if your GPU is not working correctly in ubuntu.12:45
W4spusr13_: Can you not ask him to get you a WiFi booster. Or better, ensure your fibre optics are properly installed by your son. ;-)12:46
theadminOkay, well, back after reinstalling Kubuntu. Now I believe I deserve an explanation as to why the backports repo is enabled by default, which broke my last install.12:47
MonkeyDusttheadmin  you should know better, that's an !ot question12:47
usr13_W4sp: No, his *house* is bigger than mine.  AND his AP is not in the middle of it.  (I have a burried cable from my house to his.)12:48
theadminMonkeyDust: Unstable repos being enabled by default is a serious issue, in my opinion, but yeah, I guess it's not really a support question.12:48
theadminMonkeyDust: Think I should report this as a bug?12:48
compdoctheadmin, guess theres still some kinks in Kubuntu12:49
usr13_theadmin: You sure do!  ????12:49
MonkeyDusttheadmin  i noticed they are enabled here, too, dunno why, never had issues with it12:49
en1gmadoes ubuntu support wusb600nv2 wifi adapter? i think it has ralink 3572L chipset12:49
MonkeyDusten1gma  try it and report in the channel12:49
usr13_MonkeyDust: theadmin That's pretty strange....12:50
shanelootsmonkeyDust no im not in wubi anymore i start up my pc and it gives me options to select what os to boot and i select ubuntu then it says finishing installation in 4...3....2....1 and i press esc then c aand add nomodeset to camand line and boot then it boots to the loading screen. loads finished and then it just hangs by the next screen ( wich i think is the background)12:50
en1gmaMonkeyDust how about i ask channel and if it is supported then i will try it12:50
riddleboxwhat would cause apps to open slowly on 12.04?12:51
riddleboxfirefox and chrome take forever to open12:51
W4spen1gma: I don't have the h/w but find something relaing to a previous Ubuntu version. See http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wireless-Adapters/UBUNTU-WUSB600N-v2-WORKS/td-p/318026 if that helps.12:51
theadminriddlebox: Maybe you have many extensions? Firefox loads pretty fast for me (even though I do have a bunch of exts)12:51
usr13_en1gma: Is it a USB device?12:51
en1gmayea12:51
riddleboxI have no extensions...my setup is pretty much default12:51
MonkeyDusten1gma  while you waited for an answer, you could have tried it12:51
usr13_en1gma: http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=11761.0 (reading...)12:52
en1gmaMonkeyDust you are so right if i had ubuntu installed12:52
en1gmanow you can sit down12:52
MonkeyDusten1gma  i missed that part in your question12:52
en1gmayou assumed12:52
en1gma"_12:52
en1gma:)12:52
usr13_en1gma:  http://www.ralinktech.com/en/index.php12:53
en1gmathanks12:54
en1gmahttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45997&comments=all   i think that has 5ghz support12:54
usr13_en1gma: http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/license.php?r=5017&sn=501712:55
MonkeyDusten1gma  next time, don't forget to mention the fact that you don't have ubuntu installed12:55
minimecshaneloots: I ask again... When it hangs on that 'background', do you get a terminal when doing the shortcut <ctrl><alt>t?12:55
shanelootsill restart and boot into ubuntu and try. if i get terminal what should i do?12:56
usr13_Oh never mind....12:56
usr13_en1gma: yea, we are pretty sure it works out-of-the-box12:56
en1gmaMonkeyDust i figured you would know i didnt have ubuntu installed when i asked if my wifi adapter was supported in ubuntu12:57
en1gmaotherwise i could have checked it myself12:57
minimecshaneloots: type unity-2d-panel <enter> If you are lucky you get a top panel, that allowas you to logout the sessioin. If you don't get a terminal, we have a different problem ... ;)12:57
en1gmausr13_ cool i think i will install and give it a go then12:57
en1gmausr13_ thanks for the help12:57
usr13_Ok, enough with the wild-goose-chases... It's off to my Linux User Group Meeting.  See you guys later  ;-)12:58
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usr13_en1gma: Yea NP12:58
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shanelootsminiec: ok thanks ill try that now and come back to tell you the result.12:58
Renegade_Anyone know how to find the most recently created file in a directory?13:02
bunjeeCan anyone help me with this? Truncated!This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Account Settings, so we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server.13:03
bunjeeDownload the rest of the message.13:03
bunjeeThunderbird 14.013:03
vickycan anyone help me to install theme which is in .sh?13:04
theadminvicky: That's a shell script, just run it...13:04
minimecRenegade_: Try ls -c13:05
vickywhen i am running that script in terminal it is showing error "install using gnome desktop"?13:05
jeremiah_I have gotten an error, saying my cache is broken, and i had it fixed once, but it broke again! someone help with a permanent fix?13:05
theadminvicky: Maybe the script is old... Is this the "GnomeXP" thing?13:06
theadminvicky: If so, that no longer works.13:06
vickyis there any way to degrade my 12.04 version to 11.10?13:07
bunjeehow do I get rid of the Truncated message in Thunderbird?13:07
shanelootsok im back and i didnt have access to terminal at all the system does not respond at all i can only move the mouse pointer. and even that lags13:08
minimecshaneloots: OK. Now we knw, that your GPU is not recognized by ubuntu. That's some kind of progress...13:08
theadminvicky: No.13:09
minimecshaneloots: So without setting 'nomodeset' option for the kernel you get a blank screen only. Is that correct?13:09
vickyok. thank u admin13:09
shanelootsyes thats correct13:09
theadminvicky: You can reinstall though, but that's all you can do.13:09
minimecshaneloots: What kind if CPU are you using?13:09
minimecshaneloots: GPU, sorry.13:10
shanelootsim using a ati radeon saphire hd 3870 special edition.13:11
dfdfdewew13:13
dfdfdwew13:13
minimecshaneloots: Ok. That's a starting point. You did not install any additional AMD/ati drivers I guees?13:13
dfdfdheloo13:13
SpoonlessHello :)13:13
shanelootsminimec: nope i did not do that, how would i do that?13:13
theadminshaneloots: sudo jockey-text -e "xorg:fglrx" # That activates the propertiary AMD driver.13:15
minimecshaneloots: Trying to find a english fglrx wiki, but as my system settings is on 'german' right now, I only get the german ubuntu wiki....13:16
theadminminimec: (s)he can simply use jockey as specified above.13:17
minimecshaneloots: If you wnat to try that, you would have to boot in 'recovery mode' and go to the roo shell. Then you would have to install 'apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev. Then you would have to do an initial configuration with 'aticonfig --initial'.13:18
shanelootsok where do i enter this comand? same place i type nomodeset?13:18
minimectheadmin: I see. Thanks. Did not know that...13:19
theadminshaneloots: No no, in any terminal on an already booted system13:19
minimecshaneloots: boot in recovery mode and do 'jockey-text -e "xorg:fglrx"' as theadmin stated.13:20
theadminminimec: Well your apt-get line is fine too, lol13:21
minimectheadmin: I know, but your command is definitly nicer ;)13:21
theadminminimec: Well, yeah, jockey is the "Ubuntu Way" to install drivers13:21
shanelootsit wont go into recovery because its trying to finish installation.13:22
voldyman_I am unable to login to my account. The password gets accepted but then unity-greeter restarts. Guest Account works13:23
minimecshaneloots: I have to leave you for a moment.... Will be back soon.13:24
shanelootsok no problem13:25
firashow to change ubuntu default wallpaper and theme?13:25
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voldyman_can anyone help?13:26
Rockhoundhi can u please tell me how to make a kickstart file in ubuntu?13:26
uhaishhello13:26
firasvoldyman: what is it?13:27
voldyman_firas: i am unable to login13:27
voldyman_Unity greeter restarts13:27
bunjeeanybody help with truncated messages in Thunderbird14.0?13:27
firasvoldyman_: i am anot an expert, but i will try to help you. Did you recently upgrade ubuntu?13:29
voldyman_Yes13:29
jeremiah_I have gotten an error, saying my cache is broken, and i had it fixed once, but it broke again! someone help with a permanent fix?13:29
compdocbunjee, I dont use Thunderbird, but you dont think its set to just download headers instead of the whole message?13:29
MonkeyDustRockhound  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility13:29
firasvoldyman_: Did you try to13:29
firasvoldyman_: use the command line? It happend to me twice,13:30
voldyman_Yup tty work13:30
firasvoldyman_: did you complete the upgrade successfully?13:31
voldyman_firas: yes13:32
firasvoldyman_: Try using " apt-get -f install --fix-missing"13:32
voldyman_firas:  does nothing.13:33
firasvoldyman_: what about " sudo lightdm" or "sudo gdm" ?13:33
SliMMhello13:33
heroandtn3hello13:34
voldyman_firas:  did try lightdm13:34
voldyman_Thanks  firas i g2g13:34
voldyman_btw can login13:34
firasvoldyman_: Ah great, bye13:35
SliMMIf I want to create an application indicator13:35
SliMMbut I don't want to use the gtk main loop13:35
SliMMwhat do I do?13:35
firasWHERE ARE THE GNOME DEFAULT THEME AND WALLPAPER FILES LOCATED13:35
jribfiras: please don't use caps13:36
MonkeyDustfiras  try ~/.themes13:36
firasjrib: sorry, hit caps lock by mistake13:36
firasMonkeyDust: no such file13:36
bunjeecompdoc you on still?13:37
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Stanley00firas: how about /usr/share/themes/ ?13:38
MonkeyDustfiras  try /usr/share/themes/13:38
MonkeyDustStanley00  was faster :)13:38
bunjeethis is what's in the message body.....Truncated!This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Account Settings, so we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server.13:38
Stanley00MonkeyDust: ;)13:38
firasStanley00: there where the themes are located, but how to change the theme13:39
Stanley00firas: well, I don't know actually, try some xml files in there13:39
firasStanley00: thnx anyway13:40
a_b0yhow do you install Skype on ubuntu?13:40
Stanley00firas: :)13:40
theadmina_b0y: Donwload from Skype.com. Install.13:40
Stanley00!skype | a_b0y13:41
ubottua_b0y: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga13:41
a_b0yi tried that ubuntu help page it didn't work13:41
a_b0yand i don't know how to install .deb files13:42
Stanley00a_b0y: so, you downloaded skype from homepage?13:43
a_b0yyeah13:43
Stanley00a_b0y: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"13:43
_TJ_bunjee: Thunderbird -> Edit > > Account Settings > [Choose Account] > Synchronisation & Storage > Disc Space > "Don't download messages larger than XXX kB"13:44
xanguaa_b0y: or just double clic on it...13:44
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a_b0yoh ok thanks13:45
TheMadDrizzle_I've got a few questions:  1) I've just installed archlinux alongside my Ubuntu.  Now that arch is installed, and grub loads up, I dont see any options for my prior Ubuntu install.  How do I fix this? 2) I know this isn't Arch chat, but it seems pretty basic - when my system boots up, it asks for login / pass for root.  I dont remember setting a username for root durring my install..13:47
jribTheMadDrizzle_: if you use ubuntu's grub, it should display all your linuxes13:47
MonkeyDustStanley00  i was away - FYI: themes can be changed with the program Advanced Settings13:47
jribTheMadDrizzle_: if you're asking about the login info for arch, please use #archlinux13:48
theadminTheMadDrizzle_: You shouldn't have installed ArchLinux if you don't know what you're doing. And since you can't configure GRUB, you don't. I suggest you remove it. Other than that, you should boot to Arch and run "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg". As for the root password, the default is blank IIRC.13:48
Stanley00MonkeyDust: well, I thought he want to the the themes element... LOL13:48
theadminTheMadDrizzle_: Visit #archlinux for further help.13:48
TheMadDrizzle_jrib: Its the grub for arch that boots.  how do I go about switching which grub boots first, ubuntu or arch?13:48
jrib!grub | TheMadDrizzle_13:49
ubottuTheMadDrizzle_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)13:49
jribTheMadDrizzle_: you can also presumably just configure arch's copy of grub appropriately.  Do what theadmin suggested or visit #archlinux for that13:49
_TJ_TheMadDrizzle: I suspect this is caused because you did not have a separate partition allocated for the /boot/ file-system, that Ubuntu and Arch could share. Therefore when you installed Arch it could only find the kernels in its own /boot/ directory and therefore didn't generate a menu that includes any Ubuntu kernels.13:50
theadmin_TJ_: Arch doesn't autogenerate practically anything. Unless you tell it to. It's a DYI distro, unlike Ubuntu.13:51
theadminAnyway this is offtopic13:51
_TJ_TheMadDrizzle: You ought to be able to fix it manually from Arch by manually adding an entry to /boot/grub/grub.cfg with a menu entry to boot Ubuntu, enough to then reboot into Ubuntu and correct things.13:52
Renegade_Sorry, my internet connection cut and I never got a chance to see if anyone managed to ask my question but13:54
Renegade_Anyone know how to find the most recently created file in a directory?13:54
_TJ_Renegade_: "ls -altr"13:54
escottRenegade_, not possible13:55
_TJ_escott: O_O13:55
xH__TJ_ I love your banging ass yo13:56
BluesKajHiyas all13:56
MonkeyDustRenegade_  try ls -t13:56
MonkeyDustRenegade_  ls -lt13:57
ClaximillionsAre there commands to disable/enable and/or prioritize network interfaces? i.e. eth1 and wlan013:57
escott_TJ_, "creation date" is not a timestamp stored in ext4. in part because the semantics are not meaningful. What should the creation date be of "sed s/something/else/ file.txt file.new; rm file.txt; mv file.new file.txt13:57
theadminClaximillions: Disable/enable? "ip link set FACE up" (replace face with eth1, wlan0, etc). I'm sure there's some way to prioritize, but that's beyond me13:58
Claximillionstheadmin: Thanks ^^13:58
theadminClaximillions: "down" instead of "up" to disable.13:58
Claximillionssimple enough13:58
Renegade_MonkeyDust, thanks14:01
_TJ_escott: ext4 added crtime (create time) some while ago. it's stored in the upper 128 bits of the inode14:02
escott_TJ_, but none of the userspace tools know how to read that. ls -altr shows modification time14:04
_TJ_escott: which is good enough in most cases to find the most recently created/amended files14:04
Gallomimiahi. i've messed up my motd file somehow. It wasn't behaving so i removed some symlinks. Can anyone suggest a method of restoring the beautiful update/restart notifications and so on? Can I modify it to add more? A manual for this stuff would be great. it's a ubuntu server running 12.0414:06
xt3mp0rHow can i get hex value of multimedia keys on my keyboard? so that i can use it on my dwm config.14:08
theadminxt3mp0r: Try using xev14:09
xt3mp0rtheadmin: Thanks.14:09
_TJ_Gallomimia: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install  update-notifier-common"14:09
MonkeyDustxt3mp0r  "Alternatively you can find the hex value just by clicking on the symbol in Character map. (You probably want to choose the 'Common' script from the left-side menu.)" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions14:10
MonkeyDustxt3mp0r  not sure if that counts for MM keys14:11
Dr_WillisI thought many Multimedia keys sent Keycodes like 'Xf86_Play' 'XF86_Pause'14:12
Gallomimiagreat thanks _TJ_14:12
Benkinoobyhi, where can i find the ntp drift file? it is not in /etc/ ...14:13
luweihe(乚14:14
CmdrTallenAny suggestions for putting music on a iPod Touch Model MD057LL Version 5.1.1 ?14:14
Dr_Willis!ipod14:14
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod14:14
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arky1Hi14:17
l_rhello14:19
Gallomimiahi14:19
l_ri have a very annoying problem with ubuntu 12.0414:20
Gallomimia!rockbox14:20
ubotturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!14:20
l_rbasically i cannot see the icons of some applications in the gnome panel14:20
l_rwhen they are docked/minimized14:20
Gallomimiaohhhhhhhhh!14:20
l_rany  idea how to solve this once for all?14:20
* Dr_Willis guesses one of the apps is eclipse.14:20
Dr_Willisor are you refering to the little indicator-applet icons?14:21
l_rit's really boring, because once you have minimized, then you have no way to maximize them again14:21
Dr_Williswhat apps?14:21
l_rDr_Willis, jitisi for example14:21
l_rjitsi14:22
Dr_Willisso just ONE app has the issue? or others?14:22
alankilaminimize apps? in 2012? surely you must be joking.14:22
l_ralankila, i meant to say, minimize windows14:22
l_rso that an icon would appear on the panel14:22
alankilaI am just annoying you. Never mind. Just reminded me that GNOME 3 doesn't support that afair14:22
l_rare you sure?14:23
l_rsome icons /apps appear correctly14:23
l_rsome dont14:23
Dr_WillisYou asaid gnome-panel earlier.. you are using GNome-shell/gnome3? or the gnome faallback mode?14:23
l_rgnome 314:23
l_ri dont even know why they forked gnome in shell/classic etc.. it used to work! damn them14:24
tiger_hey14:24
alankilahmm wait it is supported? Well, I haven't really used gnome 3, so excuse me.14:24
Dr_WillisGnome3 is not a 'fork'14:24
l_ri have the old style-gnome desktop on ubuntu 12.0414:24
MonkeyDustl_r  me too14:24
alankilain G3 you are supposed to be able to see windows in the overview mode from top-left, eh? wouldn't the minimized windows be there?14:24
Dr_WillisI just use Unity. :)14:24
l_rand the above one is my problem14:24
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l_rmaybe i should ask in #gnome14:25
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Dr_Willis!info jitisi14:26
ubottuPackage jitisi does not exist in precise14:26
Dr_Willisis jitisi a java app by any chance?14:26
l_r!info jitsi14:26
ubottuPackage jitsi does not exist in precise14:26
l_rsee www.jitsi.org14:26
Dr_Willisso is it a java app?14:27
l_rDr_Willis, yes it's based on java14:27
Dr_WillisTheres known issues with some java apps.   which is why i mentioned eclipse earlier.14:27
l_ri see14:27
Dr_Willisand why i asked for what other apps. :)14:28
alankilaI guess that's another failure on GNOME developers' heads.14:29
Dr_Willisor more weirdness on java devlopers.. seen java apps act very weirdly in the past.14:29
l_rboring14:30
l_rreally14:30
alankilaregular users do not care. The application did not change, desktop environment did, and now they have a broken system.14:30
alankilaand since applications are the king, breaking them is unacceptable, no matter how horridly they were written. There should always be a convincing compatibility story.14:31
Dr_Willissupporting badly written/broken apps? yea.. not going to happen.14:31
mneptokPoint 1: l_r is using an unmaintained GNOME.14:31
Dr_Willismneptok:  thought he said he was using gn0me-314:31
mneptok08:24 < l_r> i have the old style-gnome desktop on ubuntu 12.0414:32
MonkeyDustmneptok  are you using gnome2 in some way, or gnome3 'classic'14:32
Dr_WillisDr_Willi+| You asaid gnome-panel earlier.. you are using GNome-shell/gnome3? or the gnome faallback mode?14:32
Dr_Willisl_r      | gnome 314:32
mneptokMonkeyDust: i use XFCE. why?14:32
MonkeyDustmneptok  addressed wrong guy :s14:32
MonkeyDustl_r   are you using gnome2 in some way, or gnome3 'classic'14:32
alankilaAnyway, it looks like soon nobody uses GNOME 3, so I can only recommend by this point to switch to other environments.14:33
alankila(and I count classic mode as part of gnome 3)14:33
schiavociao a tutti14:33
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MonkeyDustplease don't say it14:33
mneptokalankila: i'm an extremly lazy individual. please stop the opinions and stick with support so i don't have to +o and all that.14:33
mneptokalankila: but ... in #ubuntu-offtopic i'm sure you'll get traction.14:35
alankilanah. I alreay had to leave that place for being too offtopic for even them :-p14:35
mneptokalankila: nice to see you're a quick learner. :/14:36
MonkeyDustalankila  try #defocus14:36
magmaAny app to edit PDFs, like writing some text?14:36
magmaand adding circles with colors14:36
heisenminkis there any way to verify that my /etc/default/grub has correct syntax?14:36
MonkeyDustmagma  i guess inkscape does the trick14:36
magmais it available from the repositories?14:37
MonkeyDustmagma  yes14:37
Dr_Willis!info inkscape14:37
ubottuinkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48.3.1-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 17709 kB, installed size 62644 kB14:37
magmanot so light-weighed14:38
magmabut ok14:38
mneptokmagma: drawing vector graphics into PDFs is not a lightweight chore.14:38
magmaI see14:38
MonkeyDustmagma  inkscape has 'save as pdf'n just checked14:38
Dr_WillisI bet its light compared to comparable windows apps...14:38
Dr_Willis;)14:38
Benkinoobyi stoped ntpd, set the date wit ntpdate, started ntp and now my system time if off  by 5 minutes... within 30 minutes or so :/ can some1 help me... that issues really troubles me for too long14:39
rodger_ncI just added a 1 terabyte drive to my 12.04 machine and formatted it with disk utility and now I want to make it a backup system disk - what command do I use to install 12.04 on it?14:42
Dr_Willisyou want to clone your current system? or want a clean install?14:43
mneptokrodger_nc: i'd use dd, not the installer.14:43
MonkeyDustrodger_nc  install it the normal way, slect the terabyte /dev in the installer14:43
Gallomimiais it recommended to use dd on a rw fs as the input?14:44
Gallomimiaespecially one that's the root/boot drive?14:45
rodger_ncI would like to clone my current system onto it, so if my 750 drive dies I can boot from the terrabyte14:45
Gallomimiayes you haven't answered the questions yet14:45
Gallomimiado you want an exact copy of your current system14:45
Gallomimiaor a fresh install14:45
escottGallomimia, absolutely not14:45
rodger_ncexact copy14:45
Gallomimiathat's what i thought14:45
Dr_Willisuse a live cd, and image the installed system to the new HD.14:45
Gallomimiawell then. you need to boot with a live cd and use dd to copy it14:46
Gallomimiabe FAKKIN careful with dd. but it's a very simple tool14:46
MonkeyDustrodger_nc  there's clonezilla and there's the !clone factoid14:46
Dr_Willisbut keeping the backup up to data.. will be a bit of a bother.14:46
hydruidrodger_nc: you could use clonezilla to clone  your current drive to the new one14:46
Dr_WillisClonezilla is perhaps a better way14:46
Gallomimiano it won't. rsync is your friend. cron is rsync's friend14:46
MonkeyDustrsync <314:46
rodger_ncto use a live CD I would need a live CD14:47
Gallomimiabut at this point you might as well get it raid1 and trim the remaining quarter TB off as an extra partition. some raid systems can do that14:47
compdocso many friends in Ubuntu! What a happy OS!14:47
Gallomimiaif you don't have a live cd be sure and overwrite your boot drive using dd14:47
rodger_nccrap - did not think about the clone being an exact size14:47
Gallomimiadoesn't need to be14:47
hydruidclonezilla will fix that14:47
MonkeyDust!clone > rodger_nc14:48
ubotturodger_nc, please see my private message14:48
Gallomimiait WILL be a 750gig partition after dd does its magic but you can resize it14:48
hydruidit should give you the option to extend the partition to the size of the entire drive14:48
Gallomimiawell yeah if you use fancy high level tools anything's possible :P14:48
sunil_hi14:49
LukasLtHi my friend managed to do something as smart as sudo rm sudo14:50
LukasLtis there any "easy" way fix it?14:51
escott!find sudo14:51
ubottuFound: gksu, kdesudo, ksudoku, dpsyco-sudo, gosa-plugin-sudo, gosa-plugin-sudo-schema, libsss-sudo-dev, libsss-sudo0, sudoku, vdr-plugin-sudoku (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sudo&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all14:51
MonkeyDustLukasLt  su and then apt-get install sudo14:51
rodger_ncdoes dd have a gui interface disk utility does not appear to be capable of the operation14:51
escottLukasLt, download the deb. boot to recover. install the deb14:51
compdoctry: apt-get install sudo14:51
trijntjeHi all, I want to automatically mount an external drive during boot so it is accesible to all users. How can I do this14:54
narcosHi #Ubuntu. I'd like to setup DNS on my local network's FW - all it will do is allow internal machines to query it, and pass the requests on. I simply did an 'apt-get install bind9' and modified the 'forwarders' to my ISP DNS. I can query the DNS from localhost, but from other machines in my LAN I get a 'not found: 5(REFUSED)'14:54
MonkeyDusttrijntje  put it in fstab14:54
escott!fstab | trijntje14:55
ubottutrijntje: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions14:55
Dr_Willistrijntje:  what kind of drive?14:55
LukasLtthanks, recovery mode helped to reset rood psswd and we are in :)14:55
sunil_any one help me pls14:55
trijntjeDr_Willis: external usb harddisk14:56
Dr_Willistrijntje:  yes.. but what filesystem is on the drive?14:56
trijntjeah, ext4, sorry14:56
trijntjesunil_: ask away ;)14:56
MonkeyDusttrijntje  /dev/sdc1       /home/<user>/extern      auto    rw      0       014:56
Dr_Willistrijntje:  make a fstab entry., but you will have to use chown/chomod as needed to allow the users to access whatver you want accessable14:56
tiger_hey all14:56
sunil_im not able to install anysoftware14:56
sunil_error occurs14:57
sunil_:(14:57
tiger_sudo kai14:57
trijntjesunil_: how are you trying to install software, and what errors do you get14:57
rodger_ncI looked up clonezilla in the application manager and - nothing14:58
sunil_m using ubuntu14:58
sunil_software centre14:58
sunil_to install14:58
trijntjeDr_Willis: thanks. Can I give users access to sub directories or just the top level?14:58
hydruidrodger_nc: clonezilla is not an application you install, it's an utility you burn onto a cd or usb drive14:58
Dr_Willis!permissions | trijntje14:58
ubottutrijntje: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions14:58
sunil_Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in14:58
sunil_order to install the var-qmail packages.14:58
Dr_Willistrijntje:  same as on any other linux filesystem14:59
Dr_Willisbbl14:59
sunil_this what this error says14:59
hydruidrodger_nc: http://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/03_Disk_to_disk_clone14:59
rodger_nchydruid: thanks14:59
hydruidrodger_nc: that link has step by step instructions for what you need to do14:59
trijntjesunil_: what about installing other packages?14:59
hydruidyou're welcome14:59
sunil_anyone help me15:00
sunil_all15:00
sunil_it occurs with all15:00
trijntjeDr_Willis: thanks15:00
sunil_actually i have upgraded my ubuntu15:00
sunil_recntly15:00
MonkeyDustsunil_  don't hit the enter key too often, it will get a headache15:01
sunil_ok15:01
sunil_trijntje please chat with me15:03
sunil_Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in15:04
sunil_order to install the var-qmail packages.15:04
sunil_how to fix this?15:05
sunil_any one please tell me15:05
trijntjesunil_: how about removing var-qmail? Why do you need that package?15:05
sunil_ok15:05
sunil_how to remove that?15:05
MonkeyDustsunil_  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you cam here -- in one line, please15:06
MonkeyDustcame*15:06
tipharesso, how can i get the IP of the users connected through ssh in a CLI?15:08
MonkeyDusttiphares  try the command 'who'15:08
ruffyDhello15:08
kiraslaughwhy can i ssh into my computer from a local network, but not from anywhere else?15:09
sunil_monkey15:10
sunil_help me15:10
ruffyDI'm using 11.10 and when I adjust the terminal font to 9, I get strange artefacts when typing (like characters aren displayed properly or the last charcter shows up when pressing space15:10
ruffyDcould someone help me?15:10
ruffyDin another vm with ubuntu 11.10 I don't have those probs15:11
sunil_when ever i try to install any software error occurs, which says "15:11
sunil_Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in15:11
sunil_order to install the var-qmail packages.15:11
sunil_Installation aborted.15:11
trijntjekiraslaugh: probably because your router blocks incomming connections15:11
trijntjesunil_: sudo apt-get removee var-qmail15:13
sunil_ok15:13
trijntjeremove15:13
sunil_thanks15:13
trijntjekiraslaugh: I dont know, it depends on your router how to open a port15:13
sunil_Building dependency tree15:14
sunil_Reading state information... Done15:14
sunil_E: Unable to locate package var-qmail15:14
ancol?15:14
sunil_again error :(15:14
ancolfirst15:15
ancolcan not use15:15
kiraslaughtrijntje: ok. its a 2wire router from att. i hate it lol. do you have to turn on port forwarding on the router and ubuntu?15:15
trijntjesunil_: sudo apt-get remove qmail15:15
sunil_ok thnks15:16
sunil_The following packages will be REMOVED:15:17
sunil_  qmail15:17
sunil_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.15:17
sunil_1 not fully installed or removed.15:17
sunil_After this operation, 2,052 kB disk space will be freed.15:17
FloodBot1sunil_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:17
sunil_Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y15:17
rihenhello after 12.04 lts upgradation i have lost volume control icon15:17
rihen?15:17
trijntjekiraslaugh: I think ubuntu will allow incomming connections  by default15:17
AzzIzzAI'm pretty sure that a package which sets up system parameters isn't checking the config of your router aside from the fact that you don't need port forwarding in order to use a mailserver15:17
AzzIzzAmore likely, it wants the system to have a fqdn defined, which is what the error says15:18
rihenhello15:18
kiraslaughtrijntje: ok that's what i thought but i wasn't sure. I'd say it may be the router.15:18
rihenvolume control icon lost15:18
xanguarihen: tried to reset unity¿ unity --reset15:18
subz3r0rihen, repeating yourself in 1 minunte wont help...15:19
rihenwhat will this command do?15:19
subz3r0Reset unity..15:19
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harushimohi I install drupal 7 on my machine through aptitude. How do I access drupal?15:24
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ruffyDI'm using 11.10 and when I adjust the terminal font to 9, I get strange artefacts when typing (like characters aren displayed properly or the last charcter shows up when pressing space15:29
mneptokruffyD: using a monospaced font, right?15:30
ruffyDyes15:31
ruffyDon my other vm with 11.10 its no problem though15:31
mneptokruffyD: what do you have set as the system-wde monospace font?15:31
mneptok*wide15:31
ruffyDmneptok, where can I see that?15:32
Syntheadhey guys, gonna set up a win7/ubuntu dualboot-er for a friend.  think a 10G partition would be sufficient for just tinkering in ubuntu?15:32
mneptokruffyD: there are system prefs that allow you to set what fonts you use.15:33
nailorais there a command to determine laptop make and model from command line?15:33
Sidewinder1Synthead, Why don't you think positive (he's gonna' love ubuntu), and give him/her 20G.15:33
ruffyDso, okay i just install this advanced settings application and change those settings?15:33
root_Hi15:34
mneptokruffyD: there's nothing to install15:34
SyntheadSidewinder1: heh, yeah.  the plan would be to mount Users/_name_/ to somewhere in Ubuntu, so she'll have storage15:34
mneptokruffyD: the system comes with a way to set what fonts you use. go and look.15:34
SyntheadSidewinder1: what's the footprint of a "normal" "just install it" installation of ubuntu?15:35
MonkeyDustnailora  sudo lshw|less15:35
root_My software center doesn't seem to work. When clicking install, nothing happends. Running apt-get install will get the program, but the programs won't work properly. Any ideas?15:35
ruffyDokay, but in my system settings, there are no font options15:35
perseo22Nailora: sudo lshw|head -1015:36
perseo22:P15:36
p_eceheya all15:37
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root_no one?15:37
Sidewinder1Synthead, I don't know, exactly, it's been a while. Around 4G just to try and play, I suspect. But for long term the more the merrier.15:38
SyntheadSidewinder1: right.  I'm gonna do a 10G.  there's always gparted :)15:38
Sidewinder1Yepperz.15:38
HrafnI have assigned swap space using Gparted, and everything went pretty well. However, there are no noticeable changes - is it possible to check if Ubuntu recognizes the new partition?15:39
nailoraMonkeyDust: perseo22: thanks15:39
Sidewinder1Synthead, If you're gonna be shrinking any NTFS/fat32, don't forget to defrag (within win), at least twice prior to shrinking.15:39
SyntheadHrafn: $ mount15:39
MonkeyDustHrafn  ubuntu uses swap only when needed15:39
SyntheadHrafn: you should see swap mounted15:39
danielboston26i need some help15:41
MonkeyDustdanielboston26  shoot15:41
danielboston26how do i  add intremap=off to the kernel parameters? im trying to install ubuntu and thats the fix but how do i do that since i can't get into a cl15:42
Syntheaddanielboston26: put it in /boot/grub/menu.lst, or if you're using grub2, /boot/grub/grub.cfg15:42
exit2600xI am having trouble with audio after installing and updating ubuntu 11.10.  Can anyone help?15:42
HrafnSynthead: The swap does not seem to show up. It does show /dev/sda1, which is my primary partition, but it does not show /dev/sda2, which would logically be the swap partition.15:42
TrollingForSoupHow can you not access the command line, exit2600x ?15:43
TrollingForSoupOops, wrong person.15:43
TrollingForSoupI meant danielboston26 , sorry.15:43
danielboston26Synthead: i think 12.10 uses grub 2 correct?15:43
exit2600xlol15:43
exit2600xnp15:43
danielboston26TrollingForSoup: can't boot15:43
TrollingForSoupAs for audio, what's the issue?15:43
SyntheadHrafn: run this: $ blkid15:43
SyntheadHrafn: you should see the UUID for /dev/sdb215:43
TrollingForSoupexit2600x, Have you made sure the settings in PulseAudio are correct, exit2600x ?15:44
exit2600xno sound coming through, tried un muting, tried changing device in alsamixer, not working15:44
TrollingForSoupDammit, tagged twice. Sorry just woke up, not on my a-game.15:44
HrafnYeah, it shows. I take this to mean Ubuntu recognizes it and will use it if necessary?15:44
exit2600xi think so, but maybe im missing something15:44
Syntheaddanielboston26: I believe 1.x15:44
Syntheaddanielboston26: but I'm mostly guessing15:44
TrollingForSoupDoes it give multiple options for output?15:44
TrollingForSoupI know my laptop has three "Stereo duplex" options for playback, but only one works.15:45
exit2600xyes, and i picked the analog one, which should be my onboard sound15:45
SyntheadHrafn: no, that's just blkid reporting information on your disks15:45
SyntheadHrafn: copy that long string, then edit (as root) /etc/fstab15:45
exit2600xive tried all of them and they do not work15:45
TrollingForSoupIs it set as fallback?15:45
SyntheadHrafn: you can use gedit, vim, nano, or whatever to edit it.  just do it as root (sudo) and let me know when it's open15:45
danielboston26Synthead hmm seems it doesn't use it by default if your using a secure boot which im not so im gussing it is grub 215:45
HrafnWait, edit /etc/fstab? Now I'm a bit confused.15:46
exit2600xset as : playback: internal analog audio15:46
SyntheadHrafn: fstab is where your operating system looks to mount block devices15:46
SyntheadHrafn: we're going to tell ubuntu to always mount your swap15:46
SyntheadHrafn: if you pull a terminal up, you can run "sudo nano /etc/fstab" to edit it15:47
HrafnCool. So it's just "sudo edit /etc/fstab" or is there something else to it?15:47
HrafnAh, sudo nano?15:47
nekuranoooooo :'( don't touch me.15:47
nekuraoh, sorry. I have nano set to highlight, apparently I'm not nano anymore =/15:48
jacerHrafn: you need to use a text editor to edit it.  If you're doing it via terminal I suggest vi.15:48
TrollingForSoupI enjoy Nano more than vi.15:48
SyntheadHrafn: yeah, nano is an editor.  when you type commands into your terminal, it looks for programs.  "edit" isn't a program, but "nano", is one, and is a simple text editor15:48
TrollingForSoupBut that's likely just me.15:48
TrollingForSoupedit is the MS command line editor.15:48
MonkeyDustHrafn  try sudo -e /etc/fstab.d/15:48
SyntheadTrollingForSoup: vim is much better than vi ;)15:48
MonkeyDustHrafn  try sudo -e /etc/fstab15:48
TrollingForSoupBut this isn't Windows.15:48
Syntheadmongo: fstab isn't a program15:49
jaceroh man, we're about to go nuclear here between vim and vi aren't we.15:49
TrollingForSoupBut I always mishit keys when switching between modes in vim.15:49
TrollingForSoupWow, mis-hit.15:49
Syntheadmongo: OH!  wow, look at that, I didn't know about -e15:49
MonkeyDustSynthead  we're here to learn :)15:50
SyntheadMonkeyDust: no doubt.  I love freenode :)15:50
HrafnSo it's up, but I have no idea what to do with it. Not used to editing text in the terminal...15:50
SyntheadHrafn: well, text mode is the best way to edit text, right? ;)15:50
exit2600xsigh...thanks for the help, im reinstalling this15:50
HrafnVery true, but it has different tabs.15:50
TrollingForSoupKnow what annoys me? The "edit Awesome config" option in Awesomewm doesn't open the config as root/15:51
SyntheadHrafn: so here's what you'll add.  UUID="(uuid from blkid)" none swap defaults 0 015:51
TrollingForSoupSo you can't even use it to edit the config.15:51
SyntheadHrafn: for example, my line for swap on my server here is15:51
SyntheadHrafn: UUID=92d7ee41-7ca7-433c-b337-1d913d9b0142 none            swap     defaults 0 015:51
HrafnSo "UUID=f3ea0ba4-f23c-4eed-8524-b22586fea34a none swap defaults 0 0" would work?15:52
SyntheadHrafn: yeah, that looks perfect.  (without quotes _in_ the file, of course!)15:52
SyntheadHrafn: ctrl-x will quit, say yes to save, then you should be back to a terminal15:53
HrafnYeah, no quotes in the file. It had another one as a sort of template, which was extremely useful.15:53
SyntheadHrafn: excellent15:53
SyntheadHrafn: lemme know when it's saved, there's one more step15:53
HrafnYeah, it's saved.15:53
SyntheadHrafn: ok, now run (as root) mount -a15:54
SyntheadHrafn: after that, you should see your swap mounted when you type "mount"15:54
SyntheadHrafn: also, if you type "free", it should mention swap15:54
HrafnSwap:            0          0          0  <--- Eh... I think something failed there...15:55
HrafnThat's total, used, and free.15:55
SyntheadHrafn: you ran mount -a as root?15:55
HrafnI did.15:56
MonkeyDustHrafn  try sudo swapon -a15:56
HrafnSwap:     30866428          0   30866428 <--- Much better! ^^15:56
HrafnThanks for the help, Synthead and MonkeyDust.15:57
MonkeyDust!yay| Hrafn15:57
ubottuHrafn: Glad you made it! :-)15:57
* MonkeyDust off now15:57
HrafnNow, what to do with those 30GB of swap space?15:57
HrafnAgain, thanks for the help.15:57
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vkhi15:59
SyntheadHrafn: excellent!15:59
SyntheadHrafn: putting that in /etc/fstab like that will ensure that ubuntu will see it as swap all the time, too16:00
parapaciao16:00
HrafnGood, good.16:00
parapacome state16:00
HrafnSo I'm considering adding another 40GB of swap space - would that amount to overkill?16:00
on3pkDoes ubuntu have a tool to write an ISO to a thumbdrive16:00
SyntheadHrafn: hahaha.  if you want to run like 100 instances of minecraft servers, no ;)16:01
bazhangon3pk, unetbootin16:01
HrafnWell, I'll be off. You'll probably see me in here a few days from now. I keep having problems due to my inexperienced ways.16:01
on3pkbazhang: it looks like that should let me "burn" the Windows 8 Pre-Release ISO I have?16:02
bazhangon3pk, ask in ##windows for that16:02
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cmaiz82hi all16:04
cmaiz82please some help to me?16:04
cmaiz82unity not show the icons16:04
r0shcmaiz82, try installing gnome-tweak-tool and checking icons from it.16:05
cmaiz82ok r0sh i'll try it and comment16:06
cmaiz82:)16:06
l_roh interesting16:06
l_ri have the same problems with gnome16:06
l_rit does not show the icons on the dock-panel16:07
cmaiz82don't work i change it but nothing happen16:07
cmaiz82shell theme appear with yellow triangle16:08
r0shcmaiz82, well, there's a way, but I am not sure, if it's good. Remove your .config, .gnome2 directories, and restart your computer.16:09
r0shMaybe, take a backup of that somewhere before you remove them.16:09
cmaiz82ok i'll try it now16:09
cmaiz82thank you16:09
cmaiz82:)16:09
r0shI am still not sure. Just give it a shot.16:10
XVampireXHello, can anyone help with this problem? It just suddenly happened... http://postimage.org/image/wvkwk0t8j/16:11
cmaiz82don't worry r0sh if not work, i'll reinstall anyway16:12
XVampireXmoo16:12
r0shcmaiz82, re-install is not the way.. That will work, I guess. Let me know what happens.16:13
XVampireXhttp://postimage.org/image/wvkwk0t8j/16:13
XVampireXthe unity bar16:13
XVampireXno icons16:13
extrasolarthis is a problem many people have16:13
extrasolargnome-shell installed?16:13
XVampireXI doubt that the fact that I'm using beta drivers of intel gma16:14
XVampireXis the problem16:14
XVampireXI've got icons everywhere else, just no on the unity bar16:14
XVampireXno gnome shell is definitely not installed16:14
extrasolarinstall it16:14
XVampireXwhy16:14
extrasolarunity needs it16:14
r0shXVampireX, Did you try Unity 2D?16:14
XVampireXyes16:14
XVampireXthere are icons in unity 2d16:14
extrasolaroh driver issue?16:15
XVampireXcould it really be?16:15
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r0shXVampireX, I don't think so..16:15
XVampireXWell neither do I16:15
XVampireXoh and gnome shell is installed, sorry16:16
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extrasolarWell I had this problem before16:17
extrasolarhave you got a nivida driver?16:17
extrasolartwo fixes I know, first does guest have 3d working?16:18
extrasolarit may be a profile problem16:18
extrasolarif not use an older nivida driver16:18
extrasolaralternatively type /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p to see if you can use 3d16:18
danielboston26Synthead: may i pm you? im having a  issue16:19
MeikelHey guys. I search a Programm for the Terminal where i can time in ( Search ......) ans he gave me everything he find. Somebody know one ?16:19
Syntheaddanielboston26: better to ask here16:19
extrasolarOR another issue could be compiz may be crasing16:19
danielboston26Synthead: i cannot edit that file because its on a dvd how do i do it?16:20
Syntheaddanielboston26: edit what file?16:20
danielboston26Synthead: if you remember i asked how do i add intremap=off to the kernel parameters16:21
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Syntheaddanielboston26: you're trying to edit the contents of a dvd?16:21
shaneoHi guys..what is the best method for converting fat32 to ntfs/ext3 file system without data loss16:21
danielboston26Synthead: i have the os on a dvd16:21
minimecMeikel: If I understand you well, you want 'locate'. First update the database: 'sudo updatedb'. Then 'locate "your expression"16:21
Syntheadshaneo: back up, create fs, copy16:21
danielboston26Synthead: the question is how do i edit that file16:21
danielboston26Synthead: to be able to boot16:22
extrasolarvi16:22
Syntheaddanielboston26: you can't if it's on a dvd16:22
shaneoSynthead, there isnt enough room on my pc to back up my ext16:22
Syntheaddanielboston26: you can use ddrescue or something to create an image, mount the image r/w, edit it, then burn the image16:22
Syntheaddanielboston26: or, when you see the menu pop up on your dvd, edit the line there16:22
shaneoSynthead, theres no way to convert without data loss?16:22
Syntheaddanielboston26: you'll have to do it every time the machine boots though16:23
Syntheadshaneo: what do you mean by "ntfs/ext3" ?16:23
danielboston26how would i create the image?16:23
shaneoSynthead, i have an ext hdd that is fat32 and i want to convert it to ntfs or ext3 partition so i can store 4GB+ without losing the data in the process16:24
Syntheaddanielboston26: I like ddrescue just because :)  ddrescue /dev/cdrom image.iso16:24
Syntheaddanielboston26: I think ddrescue is a part of gddrescue16:24
Syntheadshaneo: you cannot convert fat32 to ext3, but I know you can convert fat32 to ntfs from windows.  not sure in linux.16:24
zilla_where is my bash_profile?16:24
Syntheadzilla: ~/.bash_profile16:25
zilla_Synthead:16:25
zilla_i have made a new profile titled "red"16:25
zilla_where is that file?16:25
shaneoSynthead, and this can happen in windows without loss of data..I have a windows vm i could use for the process if that is sp16:25
zilla_it is not listed16:25
shaneo*so16:25
zilla_where is my bash_profile located in *ubuntu 12*16:25
Syntheadzilla: /home/red/.bash_profile.  ~ means "current user's home dir"16:26
minimec!de | Meikel16:26
ubottuMeikel: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!16:26
Syntheadzilla: if it doesn't exist, create it16:26
zilla_Synthead:16:26
zilla_yes that is a great idea16:26
Syntheadzilla: the global profile is /etc/profile and it should also source everything in /etc/profile.d16:26
zilla_but there is no option to "load" profiles16:26
danielboston26thanks Synthead16:26
Syntheadzilla: what do you mean by "load a profile" ?16:27
zilla_in bash terminal, edit --> profiles16:27
zilla_you have16:27
zilla_new, edit, delete16:27
dryicebombshaneo: the command in windows is convert VOLUME /FS:NTFS16:27
Syntheaddanielboston26: np.  I know that was just brushing the surface, though, so don't be afraid to ask questions16:27
zilla_no load16:27
Syntheadzilla: vim ~/.bash_profile16:27
danielboston26Synthead: i want to see if i can take it from here16:27
Syntheadzilla: the "profile" is just a file16:27
Syntheaddanielboston26: good luck my friend16:27
shaneodryicebomb, :) just found that thanks...and is it guaranteed i wont lose data?16:28
zilla_lol vim16:28
zilla_/etc/profile16:28
zilla_thank you16:28
rodger_ncI have an ISO file in DVD creator - I do not want to copy the iso I want to make the equivalent disk.  Do I click "Extract here" to make  the disc into what the ISO equivalent.16:28
dryicebombnothing is garunteed. but i've run it a dozen times or so without data loss16:28
Syntheadzilla: /etc/profile will modify the bash profile system-wide.  make sure that's what you want to do16:28
shaneodryicebomb, :) good enough for me...thanks so much for the help16:29
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erfuHello all, I created an ext4 partition on my USB harddrive using gparted. Now when I plug it in to Ubuntu 12.04, I don't have write access. I suspect I can fix this in fstab, but shouldn't any USB drive be mounted by my user by default? Is there something fundementally wrong with the partition I created?16:30
zykotick9erfu: actually, change the mount points permission...16:30
erfuHm, so I should try chmod on /media/mydrivename?16:31
zykotick9erfu: fstab is only required for permissions when you use FAT/NTFS (none native filesystems)16:31
rodger_ncI downloaded the 12.04 ISO image.  Now I want to create the 12.04 boot disk from the image.  I moved the iso to the dvd area in dvd creator.  do I click extract here to make the 12.04 disk?16:31
erfuI see. Going to try chmod now.16:32
dawitgaborhello there!16:32
dawitgaborI just installed Ubuntu, some tips_16:32
erfuzykotick9, I see that my ext4 drive is owned by root in /media. Another random USB drive I plug in (FAT32) is owned by my user.16:33
zykotick9erfu: if it's ext4 - change the owner then.16:34
savaskHello. I changed my nvidia driver to nvidia-current-updates and now all fonts are blurry, and they don't become clear even when I change the driver back. How do I reset my font settings, or something like that? I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.16:34
dawitgaborhi, just installed ubuntu. Some tips?16:35
zykotick9dawitgabor: do you have a real question?  if so ask it.16:35
dawitgaborreal question_16:35
erfuzykotick9, I did that, and it did remember it when I replugged the drive. So its all good on this computer. But lets say I plug this into another computer; won't I be able to write to it unless I change the owner?16:36
erfuThat seems to defeat the concept of a portable drive to me16:36
dawitgaborare you guys hackers_16:36
dawitgabor?16:36
zykotick9erfu: perhaps you should use FAT then...16:36
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erfuzykotick9, hm yeah, I guess you're right. It's an easy fix anyway. I dont know much about file systems and thought that USB drives were always owned by the local user. Thanks for the help!16:37
erfuI guess only less advanced file systems will behave like I want to.16:38
sam-laphi, how i can simulate a double click into a file through comand line ?16:39
CC_IncHi, I am using alsamixer for sound, however, now I cannot set my master sound through ubuntu.16:40
trismsam-lap: depending on what you are trying to do: xdotool click --repeat=2 button;16:40
CC_IncAnd there are no output devices in my sound settings.16:40
zykotick9CC_Inc: in alsamixer, see if F6 allows you to select a different card/output16:41
zykotick9CC_Inc: have you attempted to remove pulse?16:41
CC_IncI have disabled it, by setting auto_spawn to no. My output devices are default and hda intel16:42
vickyhow to change close maximize and minimize button to right side of the window in 12.04 version?16:42
zykotick9!controls | vicky16:42
ubottuvicky: Starting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263316:42
helpzHi there i'm installing ubuntu alongside windows, I'm in the installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..16:42
helpzwill the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?16:42
disownif you have an old distro are relatively old by ubuntu standards like Distributor ID:Ubuntu16:43
disownDescription:Ubuntu lucid (development branch)16:43
disownRelease:10.0416:43
disownCodename:lucid16:43
disown I am wondering do they have the same software in the lucid repo's. Or if not can you uses the newer ubuntus repo's when no problems simple by adding it to the source.lst like usual or thru the gui16:43
FloodBot1disown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:43
rodger_ncFound how to do it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto/16:43
helpz?16:44
helpzHi there i'm installing ubuntu alongside windows, I'm in the installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..16:44
helpzwill the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?16:44
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disownWhat I am getting at is if you don't update your kernel / operating system can you still uses 99% of the newer repo's stuff16:44
ripthejackerhow do I minimise games in wine?16:45
zykotick9CC_Inc: if you disable pulse - expect things not to work...16:45
CC_IncWell, I am using alsamixer, because the microphone was not working in Pulse for skype.16:45
pb|awayripthejacker: #winehq16:45
disownAnd onces a distro is old does that mean its repo doesn't get updated with new software ? For instance if you are using an old distro that uses the lucid repo would that get updated with the newest version of gcc when it comes out or is it just the newest ubuntus repos that get new updates/software add normally?16:46
helpzduring ubuntu 12.04 installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..16:47
helpzwill the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?16:47
helpzanyone16:47
helpzinstalling alongside16:47
sam-laptrism im using wine and now i need somehow to "double click" into a file through command line16:48
pb|awayhelpz: depends on which you say put first.16:48
sam-lapis that possible ?16:48
helpzwindows was first, so i believe it's sda116:48
trismsam-lap: I don't really understand what you are trying to do16:48
vickyhow to place the task bar at bottom?16:48
pb|awayhelpz: when applying a partition your asked which to put first.16:49
disownhelpz are you saying when the newer ubuntu distro repo's get software add they also add it to the old repo's by default to make it available in those repo's to. Sort of like it mirror's it on all the repo's just curious because I don't want to mis out on software16:49
pb|awayvicky: unity taskbar launcher requires 3d settings to customize. Kde utilizes bottom or top based task bars for 2d graphics. perhaps check it out.16:50
ico#join physics16:50
helpzit's during ubuntu installation, the option to install alongside windows,  it give be a bar in which to move left or right to choose how large to split into a windows partition and a linux partition16:50
helpzim not sure which side, whill be which after I choose the size,  i do not want them to be even16:50
Guest82961hello ubuntu developers :)16:51
zykotick9ico: it's "/join #channel"16:51
disownIf I had a definite yes or no I could sleep better at night knowing I didn't have to add a repo16:51
pb|awayvicky: in the kde DE you right click the task bar and select task manager settings..16:51
icozykotick9: yeah. typo. :p :)16:51
DanSHeya, I'm completely new to ubuntu and I have a question which I'm hoping is easy to answer.16:51
pb|awayoops I lide.. panal settings16:51
pb|awayvicky: oops panel options.. my bad16:51
disowncan anybody answer that for 100% sure16:52
pb|awayvicky: first the panel must be set to "unlocked"16:52
ripthejackerSomeone using wine please help. How do i minimize fullscreen apps in wine.16:52
zykotick9ripthejacker: depends if the app supports it - try alt+enter16:52
vickycan u please explain me clearly.. i am new to ubuntu..16:53
pb|awayripthejacker: please post wine questions in the channel #winehq16:53
ripthejackerzykotick9, it works in windows. So it should work in wine too, shouldn't it?16:53
helpzpbjaway:   please look at this16:53
ripthejackerpb|away, i did but there is no activity over there16:53
helpzhttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshotfrom201208111.png/16:53
helpzor someone,16:53
zykotick9ripthejacker: usually, but as pb|away states, ask in #winehq16:53
DanSI've got a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 installed.. and I'm trying to install a touch screen monitor.  Drivers do exist for it but only for kernel version 2.4 -2.6.  I believe ubuntu 12.04 is kernel version 3.2. And thus certain header files in the GCC compiler have gone since then etc.16:54
helpzI just want to know which side will be which after, Windows was installed first on sda1, its the only partition, I assume it willbe left side16:54
pb|awayvicky: are you using ubuntu or KDE?16:54
pb|awayvicky: for your desktop .16:54
vickyubuntu 12.0416:54
DanSThe drivers i'm talking about are here: http://www.elotouch.com/support/downloads/dnld.asp  and have to be installed seperately..  Am I out of luck or is there a way to compile for older kernel versions?16:54
helpzhttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshotfrom201208111.png/16:55
helpzsimple question..  furstrating.16:55
helpzwhich side is which16:55
helpzwindows, installed first, sda1, its the only patition, will ubuntu be the right side of the allocation bar?16:55
shenaniganzhi, using ubuntu server 12.04, tried to remove the openjdk-7-jre and instead of removing it completely it also wants to install openjdk6, tried using purge, didnt help as well, anyone knows how to delete the java perm.?16:56
DanShelpz, i'd imagine so. But you probably need a swap disc too unless its automatically installing that.16:56
helpzis no one going to answer me for fuck sakes?16:56
xangua!language | helpz16:56
ubottuhelpz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:56
helpzim sure its an easy question.. im not even going to install it, go fuck yourselfs16:56
linlinnot with that attitude :p16:56
helpzall of you16:57
tipharesso, how can i get the IP of the users connected through ssh in a CLI?16:57
DanSHah. wow.16:57
linlintiphares, w16:57
pb|awayhelpz: you can set what you wish to come first..16:57
Picitiphares: netstat can tell you16:57
pb|awayallready said that.. btw. way to listen16:58
pb|awayop sets mode +b helpz16:58
tiphares(i asked this earlier but mirc crashed) :(16:58
linlintiphares, w16:58
tipharesPici oke, should've thought of that. linlin: w ?16:58
tipharesoh16:59
tiphares:O16:59
linlin#w {enter}16:59
tipharesyeah16:59
tipharesawesome. haha16:59
tipharesthanks16:59
FloodBot1tiphares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:59
linlinlol16:59
minimecDanS: Did you try to use the standard elo touch driver in 12.04. I have a forum thread here (in german), where someone seems to be using the 'standard' driver in 12.04...16:59
shadahello17:00
DanSminimec: Which standard elo one?  Could be something i've missed.17:00
shadawhen changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line17:00
Darkenvyhello my install is ASCII and the background is red. what does that mean? I had to use the "Alternative install disk" to fit it onto a 700mb CD as the regular was 780mb17:01
shadawhat file is being changed?17:01
Darkenvyso I guess my question is: what is the alternative install vs a normal desktop install?17:01
shenaniganzDarkenvy, it prolly means you're installing server instea of desktop17:01
minimecDanS: Looks like he has a screen of the C-series http://elotouch.com/Products/Computers/cseries/default.asp17:01
shadawhen changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line17:01
shadawhat file is being changed?17:01
minimecDanS: He is talking about 'the standard ELoTouch Linux driver"17:02
shadawhen changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line17:02
Pici!alternate | Darkenvy17:02
ubottuDarkenvy: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal17:02
shadawhat file is being changed?17:02
shadawhen changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line17:03
DanSThis one's significantly older than that.17:03
shadawhat file is being changed?17:03
shenaniganzshada, if for all users it'll be in /etc/profile.d for you i think its ~/.bashrc17:03
shadashenaniganz:17:03
shadajust my guy17:03
shadacheer17:03
shadas17:03
FloodBot1shada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:03
sporkboyok, in power settings: show battery status is blank. I can change it, but it never shows, and when I go back it's blank again. I'm guessing it's messed up in a config file somewhere. How do I fix this? I don't know where that file would be.17:03
CC_IncPlease, can anyone help?17:03
minimecDanS: I guess he uses the one you mention. It could be, that EloTouch did not update the indications about the 'working kernels'. Maybe that driver just works with any Linux kernel after 2.2 ;)17:04
Danno_Good morning.17:04
shenaniganzhi, noob question plz, using ubuntu server 12.04, tried to remove the openjdk-7-jre and instead of removing it completely it also wants to install openjdk6, tried using purge, didnt help as well, anyone knows how to delete the java perm.?17:04
Darkenvypici, I'm installing PowerPC ubuntu 10.10 on a G4 Powerbook. Where can I get yaboot support? This is the second time im installing due to my messing it up17:05
Darkenvy!yaboot17:06
shenaniganzDarkenvy: you wont get flash17:06
minimecDanS: If you look here, the pre-built drivers stop with 8.04... http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/Linux/dnld_linux.asp17:06
Darkenvyflash is not my worries :)17:06
shenaniganzok :)17:06
Darkenvyhowever isnt there icedtea?17:06
wilee-nileeDarkenvy, that release is end of life17:06
wilee-nilee!eol17:06
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:06
DarkenvyI know however for graphical reasons I cannot get a newer biuld on the powerbook. please dont stop helping me XD17:07
shenaniganzhmm, im not updated on its status, last i installed jaunty jackalope on g4 and it had no flash support :)17:07
DanSMinimic: You I know that.  But is there a way of installing the generic driver on 12.04?17:07
Danno_I am trying to use [4xSATA->md RAID5->dm-crypt->LVM] on a new install of Precise. It installs OK, but performance is slow and erratic.17:07
wilee-nileeDarkenvy, I doubt that is the case.17:07
Danno_With [4xSata->RAID4->ext4] my array sustains 100MB/s write indefinitely.17:08
DarkenvyEither way, yaboot will be used for pwoerpc as it is the 'newworld bootloader'. I am having complications because I dualboot OSX 10.4/10.5 as well as boot linux. Yaboot only gives me 2 options and OSX breaks the bootloader17:08
Danno_With [4xSATA->RAID5->LVM] it sustains 100MB/s write indefinitely.17:08
Darkenvybecause it wants to boot into 10.4 and if I choose to "reboot OSX in 10.5" then yaboot doesnt appear. thus no more linux booting17:09
ferniDanno_: is the raid array synced already?17:09
fernior rebuilt, i mean17:09
Darkenvyso am I in the wrong channel for yaboot bootloader support? (powerPC bootloader support)17:09
Donniehi i have a little question - where do I find this tool shown in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDmPGuzKi9s17:09
shenaniganzhehe17:09
Danno_When I slip dm-crypt into that, it will pull 100MB/s for ~2 seconds, then freeze the machine for ~90 seconds. Then it will pull another 100MB/sec... Lather, rinse, repeat.17:09
pb|awayrm -rf addonpath.. ?17:09
Danno_Gives an effective throughput of ~15MB/s.17:09
danielboston26is Synthead still here?17:09
shenaniganzDarkenvy: you should research why you only get 2 mount options17:10
shenaniganzboot that is17:10
Danno_Has anyone seen that before? I've been scouring Google/Launchpad/KML/etc for the last three days and haven't run across anything useful.17:10
DarkenvyI am having a really hard time finding information on yaboot and 'open-firmware'17:11
minimecDanS: If I read here http://www.elotouch.com/files/install/Elo-Linux-USB-v3.5.2_Installation-Instructions.txt , it looks like you don't have to compile anything to make the driver work. You need to 'embed it' into your current installation. Only thing you need is 'libmotif4' and 'libusb'17:12
shenaniganzDarkenvy: http://mac.linux.be/content/yaboot17:12
Danno_ferni: Yes. Long since. I built the array and went to bed. Installed the next night. :)17:12
DanSoh! sorry. I forgot to mention.  It's serial.  Serial connected via USB, but on windows at least I had to install the serial version of the software.17:13
Darkenvyone last thing: if yaboot doesnt come up, how do I fix that? that link goes into detail about the yaboot configuration17:13
shenaniganzhave a livecd ready17:14
Darkenvyummm17:15
Darkenvypowerpc booting is a hassle. if I wanted to fix yaboot I know it would be in open-firmware17:16
DanSminimec: Unless linux would interpret usb -> serial cable as usb instead of serial like windows does.. I'm really not sure.17:17
wilee-nileeDanno_, I see nothing on the web as far a download of this tool, I suspect it is not really available. Ubuntu has wikis on making custom cd's though it is a bit more complicated then a purdy gui.17:17
_TJ_Danno_: Does the system use a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel?17:18
wilee-nileeDanno_, there is also remastersys that will pack a install to a cd /dvd that you have tweaked to your liking.17:19
Danno_This is on a (mainly) file server, so I could live with 15MB/s write speeds. What I can't live with is the 90-second freezes. My Lucid machine does not do this. If I can't find a fix, I'll have to stay with Lucid.17:19
rodgerr_nccloning my 12.04 system with clonezilla working nicely but saw a lot of errors as it grabbed data from old disk17:19
Danno_TJ: 64.17:19
DanSminimec: and unfortunately the serial drivers come with some c code that needs to be compiled.. but makefiles only exist for kernels 2.4 and 2.617:20
mooseonehello everyone17:20
_TJ_Danno_: Almost all of these problems are caused by dm-crypt re-ordering block IOs to an extreme degree (as shown by blktrace), such that it is very hard for the raid layer to merge them in to full stripes, leading to many extra reads and writes.  There are minor problems with losing io_context and seeking for CFQ, but they have far less impact.17:20
wilee-nileeoops  sorry Danno_  Donnie I see nothing on the web as far a download of this tool, I suspect it is not really available. Ubuntu has wikis on making custom cd's though it is a bit more complicated then a  gui.  there is also remastersys that will pack a install to a cd /dvd that you have tweaked to your liking.17:20
rodgerr_ncthis is the first time I have used my android icecream transformer to log into an irc - nice17:21
Danno__TJ_:  Are there any tuneables to mitigate that?17:22
minimecDanS: Ok. I see. Indeed it looks like you have to compile elok_s.(k)o kernel modules for the serial driver. That could be a problem.17:22
_TJ_Danno_: I'm not aware of anything but then again I've never really needed it so not looked17:23
juniourhi guys in setting there is privicy i clicked on recording17:24
juniourbut where to find recorded data in  ubuntu 12.04lts17:24
juniourplz help17:24
Danno__TJ_: I saw the same behavior with both [SATA->RAID->dm-crypt->LVM] and [SATA->RAID->LVM->dm-crypt]. With the dm-crypt being the top layer, it shouldn't be doing that much reordering should it? I can see it doing so when it is the third layer....17:25
_TJ_Danno_: I know that if you encrypt the block devices and then put a file-system on top of them, it'll be faster than a encrypting a file-system on top of block devices. The reason being, the encryption runs in a single thread per block device.17:25
DanSminimic: Indeed. Is there any way around this other than modifying the source code, or installing an older version of ubuntu?17:25
_TJ_Danno_: Can you test it with dmcrypt  > RAID > LVM ?17:25
Danno__TJ_: [4xSATA->4xdm-crypt->RAID->LVM] ?17:26
juniourhi guys how to know tha some has eplored your pc17:26
rodgerr_nconce the clone from the 750gig to the 1000 gig is done, how do I recapture the extra 250 gig on the new disk?17:26
juniouris there nay recorded activity so you can judge some on has opend your pc17:26
juniourand which file he/she has opend17:27
DanSminimec: I guess I could always try the USB drivers on the off chance that they work.  But with needing serial on windows, i suspect this is the same, even with the serial > usb adapter.17:27
juniourany idea guys17:27
_TJ_Danno_:  As I just said, the problem is that dmcrpyt runs one thread per block device. If you've got 4 disks then 4 threads will run simultaneously. If you have one block device encrypted then you'll have one thread running dmcrypt17:27
Danno__TJ_: I was afraid you'd say that. Have been considering that, but don't want to have to type four passphrases at boot, and don't want to have an external keyfile. (On USB, etc.)17:28
_TJ_Danno_: It's not guaranteed and I know its a pain, but it is a known bottleneck for some workloads17:28
minimecDanS: serial > usb is problably correctly recognized as serial port. You can try that yourself. Plug the adapter into the usb port and do 'dmesg' in a terminal. The last few lines of the output should indicate, how the adapter is recognized by ubuntu, and what /dev/ttySX is used.17:29
_TJ_Danno_: you have a single encrypted volume that when unlocked reveals a keyfile ... I've done that in the past17:30
_TJ_minimec: for serial to USB converters the device is more often /dev/ttyUSB*17:30
rodgerr_ncalmost done with the clone still seeing DRDY ERR17:30
martin_Hey everybody, I just installed Xubuntu 11.10 and Im using Krusader. Before Xubuntu I had Kubuntu 12.04. Now krusader uses all icons from KDE, I dont know how, I formated the partition where I Xubuntu placed. Any ideas?17:30
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, clonezilla is a packaged clone for re installation, you know this correct?17:30
minimec_TJ_: Interesting...17:31
ClientAliveI have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?17:31
rodgerr_ncclonezilla is cloning from one harddrive to another17:31
_TJ_minimec: I use one for getting to early boot kernel consoles when testing kernel builds on various hardware17:32
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, correct but it will not be in the same form it started in.17:32
wilee-nileethe reinstall of it does this17:32
martin_I was kicked17:33
rodgerr_ncmeaning?   All I need to do is have a drive I can boot from if something happens to the first drive...17:33
KihokkiHow can I make my Synaptics touchpad move faster vertically?17:33
rodgerr_ncwith all my data17:33
rodgerr_nca backup of sorts17:34
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, clonezilla clones the original in packages not a straight across copy that will be usable except to reinstall the clone.17:35
wilee-nileeThen it is bootable17:35
rodgerr_ncgreat - so you are telling me clonezilla is simply creating a type of zip file?17:36
DanSMinimec / _TJ_ : Yeah, it's actually listed as /dev/ttyUSB0.  But would that require USB drivers or serial?  As on windows it was serial.17:37
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, yes17:37
_TJ_DanS: It you see it there, no driver is required, it's good to go17:38
wilee-nileeexcellent tool though rodgerr_nc17:38
martin_can anybody help? krusader uses icons from previous OS (Kubuntu 12.04, now running Xubuntu) I have formated partition17:38
sagredohello friends of freedom17:38
ClientAliveI have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?17:38
_TJ_DanS: For example, when I use it I do: "screen -L /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixon,istrip"17:38
minimecDanS: Well... In that case I would give the USB driver a try. Well I guess it is worth a try. You can only win. And as you don't have to compile anything...17:39
rodgerr_ncOK - so instead I should do what to create a duplicate of my hard drive on the second drive to have as a backup17:39
sagredoi have a soundblaster audigy card that is not working17:39
sagredodoea anyone have experience with audio devices/drivers?17:39
DanS_TJ_: is that for touch screen stuff?  I can certainly try it.17:39
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, I have not really done that just cloned for reinstall so others familiar there can help.17:40
DanSminimec: I'll try what _TJ_ is saying else I'll try the USB drivers.17:40
_TJ_DanS: the /dev/ttyUSB0 is a standard serial device17:40
_TJ_DanS: it can be opened just the same as /dev/ttyS* devices17:40
_TJ_DanS: The clue is in the "tty" part of the device name17:41
minimecDanS: ok. I wish you success...17:41
_TJ_DanS: And, if I read back correctly and see mention of ELO - you're trying to use it with an ELO touchscreen. I have one right next to me on an external monitor, and I connected it to this PC using my own USB<>serial converter17:42
BlueManGrouphi17:42
vincent__ik wil iets doen volgens deze manual http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/17:42
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minimecDanS: Looks like you are in good hands with _TJ_ ;)17:43
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idefixmaar op het eind staat er dat je iets moet downloaden17:43
Danno__TJ_: Thanks for the input. Going to wander off and mess with some different layouts. Might just end up with dm-crypt at the bottom of the stack.17:43
idefixmaar dat werkt bij mij nooit, alleen dingen via de repos werken17:43
_TJ_minimec: Famous last words :p17:43
idefixhey damn this is english17:43
minimec_TJ_: Indeed ;)17:43
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_TJ_Danno_: good luck ... and please report back if you have success, it'd be good to know17:43
idefixI'm trying to switch sound system17:43
BlueManGroupwhats up17:43
idefixaccording to this link17:43
idefixmaar op het eind staat er dat je iets moet dow17:43
idefixkut17:43
FloodBot1idefix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:44
_TJ_!nl17:44
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl17:44
sagredoi have a soundblaster audigy card that is not working17:45
sagredodoea anyone have experience with audio devices/drivers?17:45
sagredowhere to start?17:45
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, If this helps what I do is backup my home with a grsync this is a rsync gui that saves as is, and then I clone the OS, I keep my stuff I don't want to loose on a external anyway. If you have two identical HD's, you don't want them being seen by the bootloader it will get confused.17:46
DanS_TJ_: It comes up saying "Sorry, no PTY"17:46
rodgerr_ncin widowz you can format a disk and repair or fix the bad spots with format /r - how do you do this in ubuntu17:48
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sagredohi17:49
catholichi17:49
sagredoubuntu is using my onboard sound over my soundcard17:49
defigorodgerr_nc, use mkfs17:49
sagredois there a sound settings?17:50
martin_can anybody help? krusader uses icons from previous OS (Kubuntu 12.04, now running Xubuntu) I have formated partition17:51
minimecsagredo: gnome-control-center --> audio?17:52
minimecsagredo: Check the 'output' tab17:53
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, ubuntu and linux will reload clones but a fix has to be done manually, there are no last working saves, as far as I know.17:53
wilee-nilee!rsync | rodgerr_nc17:55
ubotturodgerr_nc: rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync17:55
DanS_TJ_ Okay.. i assume a PTY is a pseudoterminal? And in the command "screen -L /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixon,istrip" You're actually running a whole bunch of them?17:55
XiRoNWhen you login into SSH does it take longer to login for security reasons or does it genuinely need to get 4 seconds to login, if not how can I make SSH logins instant?17:58
PessimistWhere can I find old flash player plug-in for Linux which supports acceleration for nvidia graphical cards?17:58
Pessimistgraphic*17:58
wilee-nileerodgerr_nc, you might try the ##linux channel and explain what you are trying to do as well.17:59
L3topnemysis: Pessimist there is none.17:59
PessimistThere is, on some version they removed accleration for nvidia gpus17:59
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minimecPessimist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91932/why-doesnt-adobe-flash-player-11-x-have-hardware-acceleration18:01
TaJMoXI want to make a partition to just store my music and movie files on. Should I make it ext2, ext4, or fat32?18:01
ChaddyHI THERE ,18:01
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, if you want to share with a MS setup I would use a NTFS, otherwise a ext418:02
ChaddyI WAS WONDERING if  any one know how to configure HUAWEI E3131 Dongle under ubuntu 12.0418:02
ChaddyHI THERE ,18:02
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TaJMoXwilee-nilee I am going to go for FAT32 because I am going to be sharing.18:03
TaJMoXwille-nilee Is NTFS r/w totally stable now in Linux?18:03
Pessimistminimec, yeah but where can I find an older version?18:03
TaJMoXwilee-nilee*18:03
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, has been for me.18:03
TaJMoX=\18:03
TaJMoXThat's not the question but thanks wilee-nilee =)18:03
ChaddyHEYYYY18:04
Chaddy:d18:04
Chaddy:D18:04
ChaddyPPL DO ANY ONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND SOMTHING RELATED TO HUAWEI E313118:04
Calahan_mate *chill*18:04
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, Yes a NTFS r/w is considered stable.18:04
ChaddyJOIN #ubuntuforum18:05
minimecPessimist: maybe here http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html18:05
ChaddyJOIN #ubuntu-forum18:05
TaJMoXwilee-nilee I have had problems before where I have to boot into Windows and run chkdsk /f in order to mount it... but I don't have Windows on this machine.18:06
TaJMoXwilee-nilee has that ever happened to you before?18:06
HrafnSo apparently, the sound settings in 12.04 can't imagine someone using mono sound these days... How can one set it to mono?18:07
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, No, I have run chkdsk's on occasion but not for mounting18:07
ClientAliveI have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?18:07
andrew2325i have a question for anyone willing to answer18:07
xangua!ask | andrew232518:08
ubottuandrew2325: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:08
L3topPessimist: As near as I can tell, the last version with accel was 10.2.161.2318:08
TaJMoXwilee-nilee Thanks again for your opinion. I will be using ntfs. Mostly because maximum file size is larger than 4GB.18:09
andrew2325lspci laptop dude18:09
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, I keep my setups spit clean and shiny, and rarely use the windows setup anyway really only for the Word program when needed. The share partition I have is just a avoidance of running my externals more then needed.18:09
andrew2325figure out which chipset your wifi uses18:09
TaJMoXwilee-nilee Have you considered using a vm instead of bootable partition for Windows, when you need to run Word?18:10
andrew2325my question is related to rerouting my ldconfig to ignore the 32bit libraries installed?18:10
minimecHrafn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138486018:10
andrew2325and maybe making bash recognize them18:10
wilee-nileeTaJMoX, I have only 2 gigs ram max so W7 runs to clunky, as well so does the XP, I want it to run as fast as the linux setups.18:11
wilee-nileeolder toshiba laptop is all18:11
TaJMoXI see.18:11
TaJMoXWell, cya.18:12
andrew2325you need word wilee-nilee?18:12
andrew2325i take it you already tried wine?18:12
sachaelanyone knows some software that can create and export (to png) good-looking gantt charts? Using gnumberic/libreoffice is kind of clunky18:15
PessimistIt still hogs my cpu :(18:17
danielboston26is Synthead still here?18:17
andrew2325I have some things I need to do outside.  I'm worn out, and the work never stops it seems.  later18:17
danielboston26what is the syntax for ddrescue?18:18
wilee-nileehehe wine why even bother I ask18:18
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danielboston26i want to make a image of my dvd18:18
danielboston26anyone know?18:19
wilee-nileedanielboston26, brasero will rip it, k3b is also a nice app18:19
minimecdanielboston26:  dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso # for dvd18:19
Pessimistdanielboston26, you can try with dd if=/location/to/dvd of=isofile.iso18:20
danielboston26i want to make a image of my ubuntu install cd18:20
^MikeIf I use usb-creator to create a bootable image on a new hard drive, can I boot that, run the installer, and have it install onto the same disk where it is running from?18:22
erfuUbuntu 12.04 completely freezes for ~30 seconds sometimes. It looks random to me. Has anyone else experienced this?18:22
erfu(no mouse movement or keyboard response. afterwards it's fine)18:22
ClaximillionsIs there a way to get a constantly updating ps ux? Like windows task manager, for example?18:22
^MikeClaximillions: Yes, try top, or htop18:23
zykotick9^Mike: you can't install to the same media the installer is running from - that would be impossible...18:23
bekksClaximillions: watch -n 1 ps ux18:23
erfuClaximillions, is top doing what tou want maybe=18:23
^MikeClaximillions: the poor man's version is watch ps ... :)18:23
wilee-nilee^Mike, you can use grub if you have a install using it to boot the ISO18:23
ClaximillionsYeah, for the most part, erfu18:23
^Mikezykotick9: That's nonsense, if you can load everything you need into RAM then you no longer need the disk.18:23
zykotick9^Mike: whatever...18:24
^MikeWell don't say "impossible" if it isn't impossible 9_918:24
zykotick9^Mike: fyi, ubuntu can't possibly run from RAM...18:24
TrollingForSoupCan't it?18:24
Edlerhey guys is it possible to install ubuntu on a mac ?18:25
TrollingForSoupIsn't that how LiveCDs work?18:25
^MikeCan't it though?18:25
TrollingForSoupYes, Edler.18:25
zykotick9TrollingForSoup: no...18:25
wilee-nilee^Mike, realy your best tool is a cd or usb sitting around anyway, so your methodology is not really the best setup.18:25
TrollingForSoupI've used LiveCDs without a hard drive in.18:25
L3topIt is running from the medium.18:25
zykotick9TrollingForSoup: BUT you can't run a LiveCD without the CD...18:25
TrollingForSoupYes, but it's stored in RAM.18:25
wilee-nileeTrollingForSoup, no do tell. ;)18:25
zykotick9TrollingForSoup: no it isn't...18:25
TrollingForSoupAre you sure?18:25
^MikeHow much does a CD hold? <1GB? And how much RAM do modern systems have? 4GB?18:26
ruffyDhey guys, I have weird issues in 11.10 shell. when i type, sometimes characters are double or are rendered wrong. e.g. when i type a character and space bar, the same character appears instead of space bar, when sending the command, or the window refreshes everything is normal18:26
TrollingForSoupSo I could run Ubuntu 12.04 Live with 1MB of RAM?18:26
^MikeI'm pretty sure it /could/ be done18:26
ruffyDplease help me I can't code like that18:26
TrollingForSoupSo, it does everything off of the disk?18:26
ChapSticklive cd's do so load into ram18:26
TrollingForSoupI google, and as far as I can tell, LiveCDs work by being loaded into memory...18:26
Edlerso i can install 12.04lts server on a mac mini ?18:27
TrollingForSoup"A live CD, live DVD, or live disc is a complete bootable computer operating system which runs in the computer's memory, rather than loading from the hard disk drive. "18:27
^MikeEdler: probably, but do you want to?18:27
Edlerwell i want to run a 12.04lts server18:27
TrollingForSoupGoing off of that definition, a LiveCD can be loaded into RAM, and the CD removed.18:27
Edlerand i'm searching for the best hardware (quiet)18:27
TrollingForSoupWhich I believe it can be.18:27
Edleri prefer mac hardware rather than windows machines18:27
Edlerbut i want ot know if its possible before i go buy it18:27
^MikeEdler: Do you know what processor the mac mini has, and whether it is supported?18:27
Edleri5 2.3ghz18:28
tetsuo--Hello, my system stopped automounting my external usb disk and i don't know how to mount it by hand18:28
TrollingForSoupWell, that should work then.18:28
Edlerintel18:28
Edleralright18:28
Edlerhow about wireless drivers18:28
Edler?18:28
TrollingForSoupWell, some drivers are supported.18:28
TrollingForSoupSome aren't.18:28
^MikeEdler: I don't know offhand, if it is x86 you should be okay. Especially with a server system, you don't care about graphics and special hardware support, which is where most problems lie.18:28
TrollingForSoupYou'd have to tell me what wireless chip it has, for me tofigure that out.18:28
tetsuo--Can soemon ehelp me troubleshoot the harddisk so i can get it to mount again?18:28
^MikeEdler: you don't use wifi for a server O_o18:28
Edlermike why not ?18:28
TrollingForSoupYou can, if you want. I have a file server I access over Wifi.18:28
TrollingForSoupIt's just slower and has issues.18:29
TrollingForSoupLike random disconnections.18:29
zykotick9tetsuo--: what format is the external?  extX/fat/ntfs?18:29
Edlerwell my router is also an apple time capsule18:29
Edleri've never had any issues18:29
TrollingForSoupEdler: You CAN use wifi for a server, but it's not the best plan.18:29
^MikeEdler: You just don't. Wifi is unreliable and slow, which is the exact opposite of what you want for a server.18:29
TrollingForSoupWell, for a home server.18:29
TrollingForSoupWifi is fine.18:29
tetsuo--zykotick9: I believe a flavor of ext18:29
TrollingForSoupI've never had any issues.18:29
TrollingForSoupPlus, not everyone can wire all of their electronics together.18:30
deadmundI use wifi for home servers as well.  It's not a big deal18:30
zykotick9tetsuo--: so to mount "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt" swap XY with letter and partition number18:30
Edleryup18:30
TrollingForSoupConnecting all the computers in my house would require hundreds of meters of wires...18:30
ruffyDI have weird issues in 11.10 shell. when i type, sometimes characters are double or are rendered wrong. e.g. when i type a character and space bar, the same character appears instead of space bar, when sending the command, or the window refreshes everything is normal18:30
Edlerso i can go ahead and buy the mac? should work on ubuntu server ?18:30
TrollingForSoupWell, I don't really recommend Mac Minis.18:31
TrollingForSoupBut if you prefer Mac hardware, I'd google it first.18:31
tetsuo--zykotick9: mount: you must specify the filesystem type18:31
TrollingForSoupAnd see who else has done it.18:31
TrollingForSoupTo make sure nothing important is incompatible.18:31
zykotick9tetsuo--: wrong XY or parition is corrupt?  most likely the former18:31
EdlerTrollingForSoup what would you recommend ?18:31
TrollingForSoupFor hardware?18:31
Edleryeah18:31
L3topone of our users uses a mac mini without issue on 1004 TrollingForSoup18:31
Edleri want it to be quiet18:31
Edlerreliable18:31
tetsuo--zykotick9: this is the output for fdisk: /dev/sdf1              63  3907024064  1953512001   83  Linux18:32
EdlerL3top: with ubuntu ?18:32
TrollingForSoupYes, Edler.18:32
tetsuo--zykotick9: and this is what I typed sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt18:32
TrollingForSoupWell, Mac Minis are quiet and reliable/18:32
TrollingForSoupJust a bit spendy.18:32
EdlerAwesome18:32
EdlerTrollingForSoup not really much18:32
Edler600$ is fair18:32
Edlernon mac counterparts go at 400-50018:32
TrollingForSoupWell, I could probably build something with similar specs for $500, if I look around.18:32
Edlerand give you a headache18:32
TrollingForSoupOr less, if I used deals and such.18:32
Edleryes but with 600$ i can waste no time in building it18:33
TrollingForSoupBut yeah, if you like Apple hardware.18:33
Edlerand have it in the next 15 minutes18:33
TrollingForSoupWell, a build takes me all of an hour.18:33
TrollingForSoupIf that.18:33
Edlerwell my office is entirely apple18:33
Calahan_Hi, i sorry for noob question, could anyone please post link to good tutorial how can i lock sftp user to certain folder acces only, and prevent it from being able to log into ssh session?18:33
L3topEdler: I believe it is a bcm4331 wireless adapter... as memory serves18:33
Edlerdesktops laptops mobile routers  tv etc...18:33
EdlerL3top would it work out of the box18:33
p_eceheyy all18:33
Edlerand if not could i find a driver ?18:33
L3top!bcm43xx | Edler18:33
ubottuEdler: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:33
TrollingForSoupWell, not a fan of the price tag on Apple devices. But if you have money, just quick search the internet to make sure it's compatible, and go for it.18:33
TrollingForSoupUbuntu has run on pretty much anything I've tried it on so far.18:34
tetsuo--zykotick9: any way to fix the parition if it has been corrupted?18:34
EdlerTrollingForSoup I couldn't find any post/video that confirms to me that it will work without firmware hacks18:34
TrollingForSoupWell, I'll quick try.18:34
Edlerthanks :D18:34
TrollingForSoupHm, yeah, by the looks of it, people have had issues with Ubuntu on Mac Minis...18:35
TrollingForSoupGoing by the FAQ and such.18:35
zykotick9tetsuo--: from livecd run fsck on the partition (doubt it will help though...)18:35
TrollingForSoupBut I don't know much about HTPCs.18:35
danielboston26Synthead: are you there?18:35
TrollingForSoupAs I'm more of a full-tower kinda person XD18:35
tetsuo--zykotick9: does it need to be a livecd? its an external usb drive18:36
TrollingForSoupI do so love my 10 drive bays.18:36
zykotick9tetsuo--: ah right - ya from regular OS should be fine then...18:36
L3topEdler: I am bugging my user right now. He might have answers for you.18:37
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tetsuo--zykotick9: i did fsck -n and it said ext-2 with bad superblock, so ill try it for real now, fingers crossed18:38
tetsuo--zykotick9: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdf1 , doesnt change18:39
wilee-nileeTrollingForSoup, as much as you like sharing your life can we like stay on topic. ;)18:39
TrollingForSoupOh, shoot, sorry, thought this was #ubuntu-offtopic.18:40
TrollingForSoupMy bad.18:40
Calahan_Please any tip? Thanks in advance!18:42
tetsuo--zykotick9: any other options?18:42
[snake]I'm using gnome 3 in 12.04. does anyone know where the trash bin is located?18:42
marvindoppeltIs there a tool one can use to hide location e.g of a country to another?  I know one for windows but looking one for linux esp. for Ubuntu18:42
[snake]marvindoppelt, maybe don't enable gps or whatever and don't tell anyone your address yourself.18:43
[snake]Oh wait your isp may give away your country.18:44
ms_daisymarvindoppelt, use Tor.18:44
[snake]ms_daisy, I'm not sure if that is what he's asking for.18:44
zykotick9tetsuo--: sorry, i don't have any other suggestions.  good luck.18:45
[snake]I believe the trash bin is supposed to be in the favorites bar, but it is no longer there.18:45
marvindoppelt[snake], have already tried the beast but didn't work.18:45
ms_daisyone way to find out: marvindoppelt , who do you want to hide your location from? and what applications are you using?18:46
danielboston26anyone here can tell me how to make a image of my ubuntu install disk18:47
deadmunddanielboston26: the ubuntu install disc is an image of itself?  (duh?)18:48
W4spdanielboston26: Could you expand on 'install disk'.18:48
marvindoppeltms_daisy, I know what am talking about and have done it in windows but am looking for a solution in linux.  [snake] atleast has an idea of what am talking about.18:48
ms_daisygood luck then marvindoppelt18:48
danielboston26W4sp i burned the ubuntu image to a disk now i want to make a image of the iso so i can mount it to the desktop to change a file18:49
danielboston26of the disk rather not iso18:49
deadmunddanielboston26: http://boogr.hubpages.com/hub/Is-Pepper-the-new-Sublime18:49
deadmunddanielboston26: first post there shows how to make an ISO from a CD18:50
[snake]marvindoppelt, as ms_daisy said tor is a good browser for browsing anonymously. it can also be configured for other applications.18:50
W4spdanielboston26: If you 'burned' it to a CD you have your installation CD.18:50
deadmundW4sp: He wants to change it18:50
danielboston26W4sp yes i understand that18:50
danielboston26WS4P i want to make a change to one of the files18:51
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W4spdanielboston26: You can create your own CD images. Also, there are ways to OEM the iso images. Not sure what you want to achieve here?18:52
deadmundNobody listens to /me18:52
jaaaaahello18:52
danielboston26W4sp i am trying to change the boot.cfg file18:52
sianhulohello, guys, i don't know if this goes here, but i'm trying to get to work a ps3 controller via usb in ubuntu and haven't been able to18:52
deadmunddanielboston26: make the iso from the CD with the link I described then go in and change it! :P18:53
jaaaaai have a problem updating precise server. basically resolvconf and udev can't install18:53
brontosaurusrextrying to generate test.desktop file manually, it works until i add %F to the line Exec=$HOME/droplets/test , clues?18:53
danielboston26deadmund i already have the cd18:53
zykotick9jaaaaa: "ls /dev/input/js*" does js0 show up when you plug it in?18:53
danielboston26deadmund once the image is burned to the disk you can't change it anymore18:53
sianhuloi have QTsixA and it recognize my controller, but that's just it, i can neither turn it on nor make it interact with anything18:54
brontosaurusrexwhat i have so far http://pastebin.com/6MtVP36h18:54
deadmunddanielboston26: You need to copy the ISO from the CD onto your hdd because you cannot edit a burned CD18:54
deadmunddanielboston26: yeah18:54
danielboston26deadmund correct18:54
deadmunddanielboston26: so, what's your question?18:54
danielboston26so how do i do that deadmund?18:54
jaaaaazykotick9: when i plug in what?18:54
danielboston26deadmund i need a way to edit the image then reburn it18:54
zykotick9jaaaaa: sorry!  was aimed at sianhulo18:55
deadmunddanielboston26: So you have the ISO copied from the CD and now on your HDD?18:55
zykotick9sianhulo: see my message to jaaaaa above18:55
jaaaaaby the way, this is basicall ywhat happens http://cl.ly/text/0K2o3f06172Z18:55
deadmunddanielboston26: Little program called ISO master: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46646/how-to-edit-iso-images-including-bootable-isos18:55
danielboston26deadmund how do i do that?18:55
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saviohello18:55
deadmunddanielboston26: I'm getting confused.  Can you be more specific?18:55
W4spdanielboston26: You can change startup options by pressing the SHIFT key during startup. That is obviously a one-off. OTOH you only install it once unless you require a roll-out of many PCs.18:55
sianhulozykotick9, it says that it cant acces it18:55
sianhulozykotick9, because there's no file or directory18:56
danielboston26W4sp the issue is im unable to boot18:56
danielboston26W4sp there is a patch but i need to add it manually18:56
W4spdanielboston26: Please see deadmund 's link. Admittingly it is an unusual way to get Ubuntu on your system18:56
zykotick9sianhulo: assuming the joystick is plugged in, guess the kernel isn't seeing it...18:56
deadmunddanielboston26: here is how to make an ISO from a CD in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD18:56
danielboston26deadmund so iso master will let me edit the iso?18:56
deadmunddanielboston26: yeah, ISO master edits ISO's  Maybe read the links I'm sending you.18:57
danielboston26deadmund :-P18:57
W4spdanielboston26: I see, that sounds reasonable. Though, do you know why it does not boot and what patch you require to apply?18:57
sianhulozykotick9, that's odd, because it's shown by qtsixa18:57
deadmunddanielboston26: Asking on IRC channels should be your last resort before first trying yourself, 2nd googling, and 3rd reading what you find after you google.  And if someone gives you a link you should read what your given18:58
danielboston26W4sp there some sort of interrupt issue its been identified and will be avaliable soon but they haven't added the code to the distro yet18:58
Vayne Hio. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. I would like to build Wireshark from source, but apt-get build-dep wireshark fails with the following message: http://pastebin.ca/217929618:58
VayneAnyone know where the guy in charge of the Ubuntu package is?18:58
Vayne(I'm on x86_64, btw)18:58
Vayne(And yes, I'm asking in #wireshark, too.)18:58
danielboston26Vayne: in his lair18:58
Vaynedanielboston26: noooooooooooo18:59
Vaynedanielboston26: Do I have to get to the choppah to reach him?18:59
danielboston26lol18:59
arcadegeeki realy want to like and suport linux ubuntu and stuff18:59
arcadegeekbut the dam thing wont instal18:59
danielboston26sounds like your missing 2 dependances18:59
danielboston26can you repeat your question arcadegeek19:00
sianhulozykotick9, http://i.imgur.com/QyG8H.png there's a screenshot19:00
danielboston26Vayne you need to install libpango1.0 and libcairo219:00
Vaynedanielboston26: Yes, about those deps: http://pastebin.ca/217929719:00
danielboston26hmmm19:01
zykotick9sianhulo: ? sorry - i have nothin'.  good luck.19:01
danielboston26sounds like the builds got messed up19:01
Vaynedanielboston26: and http://pastebin.ca/217929819:01
sianhulozykotick9, thanks anyway19:01
Vaynedanielboston26: Yeah, I figured... anything I can do, other than install Gentoo in a VM? ;)19:01
danielboston26is there evquvalent of make clean for apt-get?19:01
arcadegeekquestion is how can u fuck up an instalation file, burn up 10 dvd"s, and still not have any ubuntu on a unix or dos based machine19:01
Vaynedanielboston26: rm -rf /19:02
Vayne?19:02
W4spdanielboston26: OK, I see. You can follow deadmund 's advice. Also, there are GRUB options (see GRUB version 2) that you can temporarily use. IF you are able to over the initial setup you can edit your grub.conf as a form of post-installation. That's probably the way most would do.19:02
deadmunddanielboston26: don't run that19:02
deadmundVayne: what's wrong with you?19:02
danielboston26i know deadmund19:02
juniourdont try rm -rf /19:02
deadmunddanielboston26: good :)19:02
W4spVayne: Do not post commands like that in this channel.19:02
Vaynedeadmund: I thought he was talking to me.19:02
danielboston26deadmund im trying to help vayne19:02
Vaynedeadmund: He already demonstrated clue by interpreting my apt-get spew. :p19:03
danielboston26is there some way to make clean apt-get it sounds like his bulid of these two packages got messed up19:03
Vaynedeadmund: and asking if there was a make clean for apt-get19:03
Vaynedanielboston26: It kinda looks liek there's a strange dep issue.19:03
danielboston26it says you have broken packages19:04
Vaynedanielboston26: I've tried to install earlier versions of those packages... but can't work out the syntax. :/19:04
lilredHey guys, anyone can help me out with vmbuilder execscripts?19:04
arcadegeekwhy do i have to be some pc engineer to just instal a consumer os19:04
danielboston26might try sudo apt-get upgrade vayne19:04
lilredI have no idea where else to look for help, even google is failing me19:04
Vaynedanielboston26: 0 packages to be installed19:04
[snake]so no trash can in gnome 3?19:04
danielboston26i know theres a way to update you package list but im not remembering the snytax19:04
Vaynedanielboston26: okay, I'll poke around with teh googlz and see19:05
danielboston26you may want to try googleing that19:05
[snake]i can find it in nautilus19:05
Vaynedanielboston26: no nee dto waste your time on that19:05
Vaynedanielboston26: thanks!19:05
[snake]nvm that's good.19:05
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a      Thanks19:05
danielboston26why?19:05
august_help19:06
Vaynedanielboston26: oh, here's something interesting. wireshark-dev19:06
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: so we can see what happens with the command so we can advise19:06
danielboston26whats up august?19:06
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danielboston26actionparsnip i was advising vayne im not the one with the issue19:06
Guest75917forgot my slash lol19:06
Calahan_histo, please could you help on tutorial how to lock sftp user to certain directory and disable ssh for him? Thanks in advance.19:06
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ActionParsnipdanielboston26: ahh sorry19:06
arcadegeeki hate this stupid istall failure, stupid os, why do i need this crap19:07
Calahan_with histo i mean hi19:07
ActionParsniparcadegeek: who is forcing you to use the OS?19:07
arcadegeeki need to change19:08
ms_daisywhy arcadegeek ?19:08
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why are you telling us this?19:08
Vaynedanielboston26: nope. Wireshark-dev was a bust. Anyway, thanks all! See ya!19:08
bekksdegrees of hate :)19:08
arcadegeekur software is a pain to install, if tryed moth to intal the os, u think i want to take a month instaling an breaking harddrives dvd"s and shit19:09
Calahan_meh :(19:10
ms_daisyWe are all richer because you shared your opinion arcadegeek .19:10
ActionParsniparcadegeek: do you have an actual support question?19:10
arcadegeekwhy dous ur suport suck, iv gone true all the dam wiki19:11
lilredcan someone ban this guy19:11
ms_daisybecause you suck at asking questions arcadegeek19:11
ActionParsniparcadegeek: support works fine, there are multiple support channels to expore19:11
l3dwhat is the quickest and easiest way to share files between ubuntu 10.10 and 12.0419:11
lilredrefrain from swearing guys, this is a family channel19:11
bekksl3d: ssh/scp19:11
ActionParsnipl3d: Maverick is dead so I wouldn't bother using it19:11
lilredl3d, dropbox is good, otherwise scp19:12
ActionParsnipl3d: you can install samba and share folders using nautilus using right click19:12
bekksl3d: dropbox for sharing files locally, between two computers, is somehow pointless.19:12
lilreddropbox is simple and works, that's the only thing that matters19:12
l3dwell i woudl update but 12.04 on my desltop is well broke19:12
lilredsamba is good too19:12
ActionParsnipsamba is quick and dirty19:13
bekkslilred: erm, not agreed. It involves loading up files to the internet, and downloading them again. And having the risk of sharing data which shouldnt be shared.19:13
bekksJust use scp.19:13
arcadegeeksuport isnt fine, iv tryed all the stuff dualboting and all, wubi.exe, dvd"s, iso checksum, mac windows19:13
l3desamba i tried but on the 10.10 all i get is unable to mount19:13
W4spOut of all methods to copy files between two systems Samba is the worst.19:13
lilredl3d, do you have experience with dropbox19:14
l3dno19:14
lilredokay, do you have an USB key?19:14
primefalconGreetings, need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/19:14
IdleOnearcadegeek, what is more likely, that all the methods you tried don't work or something you did doesn't work?19:14
l3dwas goping to avoid that19:14
bekks!sshfs19:14
ubottusshfs is a !Fuse based filesystem which allows you to mount a remote system over !SSH - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS for instructions19:14
lilredokay then19:14
lilredsshfs might be for you :)19:14
ms_daisyif you want to share files between 2 ubuntu machines I would not use samba l3d . Samba is for sharing linux with windows.19:14
ActionParsniparcadegeek: when you installed Windows, did you leave unpartitioned space to install Ubuntu to?19:14
bekksJust use sshfs as described in the link above, l3d19:14
lilredjesus so many ways to do that19:15
lilredXD19:15
l3dlooking it up now thanks19:15
danielboston26primefalcon: sed is dead :p19:15
Calahan_Guys i see that you all are very bussy with somth, mabe sombady have time to help with my lack of knowledge, problem. I want to make user who can sftp only to certain folder and prevent him from being abble to use ssh. Thanks in advance if you can help with this.19:15
lilredI only heard about sshfs today, it's pretty damn cool19:15
arcadegeeki buyght a dedicadet 3tb harddrive for the bloody os19:15
lilreddanielboston26, can it, sed is extremely useful for systems administrators19:15
ActionParsnipms_daisy: ubuntu has smbclient which will allow it to access samba shares on ANY OS, it's not only for WIndows...19:15
arcadegeekeven tryed a ssd19:15
ms_daisyTrue. But there are better ways to share linux to linux IMO ActionParsnip19:16
ActionParsniparcadegeek: so you installed Ubuntu to one drive, then installed Ubuntu to another, then what happens?19:16
arcadegeekit never instaled19:16
arcadegeekit crashes on instal19:16
danielboston26lilred: thats a pun19:16
ActionParsnipms_daisy: it works and incorporates with nautilus well.19:17
arcadegeekit crashes on boot19:17
ActionParsniparcadegeek: can you expand in 'crash' it is too ambiguous19:17
ActionParsniparcadegeek: do you get a blank screen when you boot the CD?19:17
danielboston26arcadegeek do you happen to be using a macbook to install ubuntu?19:18
arcadegeekwubi.exe errors, iso secksums that went wrong, freezing screens on leoding bar, mouse lag, total freeze and the fan cept spining harder19:18
danielboston26also are you getting a kernel panic arcadegeek19:18
arcadegeekimac and an intel19:19
ActionParsniparcadegeek: if the MD5 checksum fails then the data you have is damaged19:19
arcadegeekkernal what?19:19
danielboston26arcadegeek:  intel what?19:19
ActionParsniparcadegeek: did you try torrents to download the ISO?19:19
arcadegeekintel nvidea desktop runing win719:19
danielboston26arcadegeek: if you don't know what a kernel panic is you should not be trying to install linux19:19
ActionParsniparcadegeek: oh, a dual GPU system (nvidia and intel)?19:20
arcadegeekim a bloody consumer19:20
bekksdanielboston26: Thats nonsense.19:20
danielboston26bekks no its not linux is a geek OS19:20
bekksdanielboston26: Thats even more nonsense, and it's offtopic.19:20
danielboston26bekks if your not a geek then you won't understand19:20
primefalcondoing another call out for sed issue--- need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/19:20
arcadegeeki don know what to do19:21
danielboston26bekks would you advise your grandmother to try and install linux?19:21
ActionParsniparcadegeek: again, a dual GPU system (nvidia and intel)?19:21
bekksdanielboston26: I am not going to keep the offtopic in here with you. :)19:21
arcadegeekis it the chips? since i have everything intel nvidea19:21
lilredprimefalcon, I wish I could help you :(19:21
danielboston26ActionParsnip: he means he has a windows pc when he said intel19:21
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: I bet the average user couldn't fully install Windows without the driver CDs19:21
primefalconme too lilred19:22
lilredprimefalcon, have you looked to see what lineToDelete looks like at that point in the script?19:22
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: going to manufacturers sites, downloading drivers. I bet most would take it to a shop and have them do it19:22
danielboston26all im saying is linux is a geek OS regular people should stuck with windows and os x19:22
arcadegeekdo i have to buy some amd ati thing to run it?19:22
primefalconlilred, yeah thats the reason I have the view function printing out line numbers19:22
IdleOnedanielboston26, That is just nonsense and also this discussion is off topic, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue.19:22
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: its not, its only hard because you are so hard coded into windows that you can't use anything else without callingit hard. Intelligent people can adapt easily as the mindsets are identcal and can fix issues19:22
danielboston26arcadegeek: i would advise to forget linux why are you trying to install it anyway?19:23
ActionParsniparcadegeek: no, you just need the boot option: nomodeset19:23
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its common for Intel GPUs19:23
ActionParsniparcadegeek: have you tried that?19:23
arcadegeekcpu19:23
danielboston26ActionParsnip: i use both windows mac and linux19:23
ActionParsniparcadegeek: no GPU, GRAPHICAL processing unit19:23
lilredI need help with vmbuilder, google returns nothing19:23
danielboston26ActionParsnip: im talking to you on a macbook pro right now19:23
lilredanyone used vmbuilder, specifically the --exec flag?19:23
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: how long have you used both?19:23
arcadegeekintel i7 overclock cpu nvidea gtx 58019:24
danielboston26ActionParsnip: the first modern os i used was mac os19:24
ActionParsniparcadegeek: ok so it's a dual GPU system, they are a real pain outside of windows19:24
danielboston26ActionParsnip: before that dos19:24
primefalcondaniel your kind astarting to sound like a troll about telling him not to use linux, in a linux forum19:24
ActionParsnipdanielboston26: doesn't answer my question...19:24
arcadegeekwait what? its standard game hardware19:24
danielboston26ActionParsnip: all im trying to say is its easier for non geeky users to stick with things that are simple19:24
IdleOneActionParsnip, it doesn't matter and is off topic19:25
danielboston26arcadegeek: why are you trying to install linux?19:25
arcadegeekwe all have to19:25
danielboston26arcadegeek: who says you "have" to?19:25
arcadegeeki mean win8, mointan lion19:25
primefalcondanielboston26, because he wants to use linux obviously19:25
arcadegeekdesktops doomed19:25
primefalconthank IdleOne19:26
ActionParsniparcadegeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics19:26
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its poor support from nvidia19:26
arcadegeekgreat , so i pay more for les...19:26
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its nothing to do with 'standard game' anything. Its absolutely zero to do with that19:26
JavaKidhey all i just have a quick question if you don't mind19:26
MrBushidohad a lapse of memory. is "useradd -system" the command for making user accounts for service daemons or for creating priviledged users?19:26
ActionParsniparcadegeek: your CPU has an inbuilt GPU and your nvidia also has one, that setup doesn't work well with Linux19:27
arcadegeeknvidea is game standard spec, it holds our longer, i mean the have the cool drivers19:27
ActionParsniparcadegeek: a quick search would show you the pitfall of buying that sort of config19:27
JavaKidis LibreOffice the best office suite (and writing app) for Ubuntu?19:27
JavaKidfor a student19:27
bekks!best | JavaKid19:27
ubottuJavaKid: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.19:27
ActionParsniparcadegeek: yes but having 2 graphic processors like that causes issues19:27
arcadegeekoke give me the linux specs19:27
primefalconLast call for right now--- need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/19:27
ActionParsnipJavaKid: there is no best19:27
ActionParsnipJavaKid: libreoffice  is decent and is in a default install19:28
JavaKidIn general19:28
ActionParsniparcadegeek: specs of what?19:28
JavaKidFor writing essays and such19:28
bekksJavaKid: in general, there is no "best".19:28
JavaKid?19:28
arcadegeeklinux pc hardware19:28
ActionParsnipJavaKid: yes, libreoffice, its not the best but it;s not the worst19:28
ActionParsniparcadegeek: for what?19:28
ActionParsniparcadegeek: try a full question19:28
arcadegeekmu imac macbook air and windows machine arent runing it19:28
ActionParsnipJavaKid: similarly there is no best software for writing essays in Windows19:29
JavaKidwell would you recommend libreoffice to a student more-so than any other app?19:29
ActionParsniparcadegeek: again, try a full question and I can reply19:29
arcadegeeki dont have the right hardware u say19:29
ActionParsnipJavaKid: sure its a fully functional office productivity suite'19:29
ActionParsniparcadegeek: yes, if you can disable one and just use the other you will be fine19:30
arcadegeekthen what is the right setup of stuff, amd intel, nvidea ati, some sort of motherbeord19:30
arcadegeeki cant turn of my nvidea card19:30
ActionParsniparcadegeek: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/nvidia-there-is-no-optimus-support-for.html19:30
ActionParsniparcadegeek: then disable the Intel GPU if you can19:30
arcadegeekyea thats going to work fine, pc witout cpu19:31
ActionParsniparcadegeek: GPU, ot CPU19:31
ActionParsniparcadegeek: try reading wat I write, rather that what you think I write19:31
arcadegeeki dont have an intel gpu19:32
JavaKidActionParsnip: LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice. In your opinion, which is "better"?19:32
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you do, its built into the CPU19:32
lilredLO19:32
lilredall the way19:32
ActionParsnipJavaKid: I suggest you look at the actual difference and see which suits your needs better19:32
arcadegeekyea oke i cant fisicaly remove the gpu from my motherbeord rigt19:32
ActionParsnipJavaKid: I can't tell you which is better19:32
ActionParsniparcadegeek: no you can disable it with the BIOS maybe19:33
W4spprimefalcon: Does $lineToDelete show enything if you echo it?19:33
arcadegeekbios , iv done that19:33
JavaKidOkay well I did some quick research and apparently OpenOffice is pretty much "dead" and not updated as much, whereas LibreOffice is "alive" with frequent updates.19:34
arcadegeekeverything is on nvidea part exept windows, since it needs it or somthing19:34
ActionParsnipJavaKid: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/oracle-openofficeorg-vs-tdf-libreoffice19:34
primefalconw4sp give me min I'll check damn I just ssume it'd have the number19:34
JavaKidThanks for the link I will check it out19:34
Belial`ActionParsnip, there's still hope for official optimus. but i know this doesn't mean much. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyOTQ19:34
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you have been bitten by nvidia's support, not Ubuntu's fault19:34
primefalconW4sp, yes it echos the correct line19:35
ActionParsnipBelial`: I'm still avoiding it. I think its a nasty hack19:35
arcadegeekso what do i do19:35
primefalconW4sp, for example if I enter 100 it'll echo 100 if I tell to echo it19:36
Belial`ActionParsnip, i hear ya. i'm remaining optimistic that nvidia will start jumping in though and making something proper.19:36
arcadegeeknew machine19:36
JavaKidThanks everyone for your help I will be getting off now.19:36
JavaKidActionParsnip: Thanks mate19:36
W4spprimefalcon: I'm not sure if d is the right thing to to. I would question if if get's the right line number.19:36
W4spprimefalcon: OK, I got the one with 100.19:36
l3dsshfs is the better choice so far so good19:37
l3dthank you for all your help19:37
arcadegeekoke so why i want a linux, i want a fine gaming computer and built it into an arcade rig for some costum game, i cant use windows since wel u know microsoft, and i cant mod a mac(also who plays games on a mac)19:38
W4spprimefalcon: By any chance, if you have any given text file would it delete the line number as given?19:38
ikoniaarcadegeek: you want aracde emmulation, no problem, you want a gaming machine, linux is the wrong OS19:38
Saikihow do you fix broken packages?19:38
ActionParsniparcadegeek: could take out the nvidia and just use the onboard intel19:38
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you may find you get an actual display with the boot option:  nomodeset19:39
arcadegeekno i dont have output19:39
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you can set boot options before ANY of the OS boots, so the fact you don't get a display is irrelevant19:39
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you WILL get a disaplay in Grub as it shows in TEXT which any video config can show19:40
W4spSaiki: You would probably wish to run apt-get clean and apt-get update.19:40
arcadegeekwhat???19:40
arcadegeeki have no screenoutput19:40
arcadegeekon my desktop19:40
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | arcadegeek19:40
ubottuarcadegeek: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:40
ActionParsniparcadegeek: You can, just because you don't know how to do something doesn;t mean it's not possible19:41
ActionParsniparcadegeek: have you tried that boot option?19:41
arcadegeekagain ur taking away a gamers screen, thats crazzy19:41
IdleOnearcadegeek, do you actually want help or not?19:42
ActionParsniparcadegeek: thats all Ican really advise, nvidia bit you19:42
SaikiW4sp: I still have broken packages19:42
ActionParsniparcadegeek: did you try the nomodeset boot option at all?19:42
arcadegeekdude tellme how can i do that on an imac19:42
IdleOnearcadegeek, click on the link ubottu gave you, read.19:42
ActionParsniparcadegeek: read the link ubottu gave, its all there. I don't have to tell you ANYTHING19:43
ActionParsniparcadegeek: thats why the link exists19:43
lilredUsing vmbuilder in an SSH tunnel, I often get a broken pipe. Anyone knows why?19:43
ActionParsniparcadegeek: the fact it is a mac is irrelevant, its got the optimus hardware which causes an issue19:43
ActionParsnip!bootoption | arcadegeek19:44
ubottuarcadegeek: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.19:44
arcadegeeki dont understand19:44
SaikiW4sp: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"19:44
arcadegeekyes f key19:44
arcadegeekthats all i know19:44
bekksSaiki: Provide the complete output in a pastebin please.19:44
lilredUsing vmbuilder in an SSH tunnel, I often get a broken pipe. Anyone knows why?19:44
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you bought a mac (first mistake), it has 2 GPUs (one is Intel and the other is Nvidia (note correct spelling)19:44
W4spSaiki: IF you know what packages you unsuccessfully installed you can force a reinstallation. IF in doubt you can check /var/log/dpkg.log.19:44
ActionParsniparcadegeek: the 2 different GPUs causes an issue in Linux19:44
W4sps/IF/If19:45
Saikibekks: I can't, server  version19:45
ActionParsnipSaiki: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a             please use a pastebin to host the text19:45
arcadegeekfirst ist a mistake, its the best thing there is for graphics artists19:45
ActionParsniparcadegeek: not these day19:45
ActionParsnip*days19:45
SaikiActionParsnip: I can't pastebin from a server version, can I?19:45
bekkswhich is nonsense, too :)19:45
bekksSaiki: Sure you can.19:46
primefalconW4sp, you need to be onto something there I plain texted a password file and its not working there eithr19:46
ActionParsnipSaiki: sure you can pipe to the pastebinit app19:46
arcadegeeki have done that comand line thinging19:46
SaikiActionParsnip: um.. how?19:46
primefalconseem to be onto something19:46
ActionParsniparcadegeek: the whole 'graphic artists' mac thing is severly outdated and the apps run equally well under windows19:46
arcadegeekthis is the farest iv goten on mac http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png19:47
arcadegeekthe ps dont exist on windows19:47
MoTeci'm just here for the lols.. thanks for not disappointing.19:47
arcadegeekaps*19:47
SaikiActionParsnip: 12.04 LTS/ precise19:47
ActionParsniparcadegeek: press SPACE when that screen shows. If you look at that its (human) manipulation use (keyboard)19:48
W4spprimefalcon: Well, I ran the command as in line 42. I created a file with six lines. Each line has 0 to 5 counting up. It does not delete anything. Hence my question.19:48
arcadegeekdid that19:48
ActionParsnipSaiki: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit19:48
primefalconW4sp, seems my ?usage of sed is wrong then?19:48
arcadegeekActionParsnip it crashed19:48
ActionParsniparcadegeek: then use the boot options factoid link to add the boot optio19:48
ActionParsniparcadegeek: did you MD6 test the ISO you used?19:49
SaikiActionParsnip: waiting for my ssh to finish posting19:49
sagredoActionParsnip:19:49
sagredohow do i scale all open windows19:49
arcadegeekshecksum all dvds19:49
sagredoto show them all so i can click19:49
arcadegeekonly 2 where corupt19:49
W4spprimefalcon: That's what I thought. Also, I'm not convinced it is supposed to delete a specific li number. I might be wrong though. That's why I did the tiny test with a demo file.19:49
ActionParsniparcadegeek: ok, did you burn the DVD ISO to the DVD as slowly as possible?19:49
SaikiActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/hjPsGJ4p19:50
sagredowhat is the keyboard shortcut for showing all open windows19:50
ActionParsnipsagredo: compiz has the scale plugin19:50
arcadegeeki did the reral one which dint work and the fast one that worked19:50
ActionParsnipSaiki: that will need sudo19:50
sagredoActionParsnip: i just did it by accident19:50
primefalconW4sp, even just putting sed -n "$2"'d' $location/Passwords.txt into the script doesn't seem to be working and that looks like basic sed syntax19:50
sagredoActionParsnip: there certainly is a way19:50
SaikiActionParsnip: I'm in root19:50
arcadegeekwork i mean chechsum...19:50
OerHekssagredo, win + S19:51
sagredoOerHeks: thanks19:51
ActionParsnipSaiki: /var/log$ apt-get update             the dollar sign means you are a user, if you were root it would say:    /var/log# apt-get update19:51
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SaikiActionParsnip: I logged in using ssh TO root19:51
OerHekssagredo quik help hold win key19:51
ActionParsniparcadegeek: use the boot options factoid link to add the boot option nomodeset19:52
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why not just use macOS, it's what the hardware is made for and you will have fewer issues19:52
arcadegeeku know what just forget it, since u tell me to do it witout screen, and it wont run as game platform anyways19:52
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ActionParsniparcadegeek: its not without screen, i never said that19:53
arcadegeekplug out the nvidea card...19:53
ActionParsnipSaiki: can you ping web pages from the system?19:53
arcadegeekvga output...19:53
primefalconW4sp, sed -n 100d Passwords.txt; cat -n Passwords.txt even just pure from cli isn't working so I guess I am missing something about sed....19:53
bekksarcadegeek: No one said that.19:53
ActionParsniparcadegeek: the CPU has a video chip built in19:54
SaikiActionParsnip: net works fine19:54
SaikiActionParsnip: http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/08/11/1208111008081287.jpg19:54
W4spprimefalcon: I know, I try to find out how to do it.19:54
arcadegeeki dont have the output vga dvi hdmi on the motherbeord19:54
aleprovencio hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?19:54
arcadegeekaleprovencio get a raizer or logitch gamekeybeord19:55
ActionParsnipSaiki: if you are using putty, you can copy and paste all the text in the page and use a pastebin to host19:55
ActionParsniparcadegeek: that is nothing to do with aleprovencio's issue19:56
sianhuloi'm trying to use my ps3 controller in ubuntu via usb using this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis/19:56
SaikiActionParsnip: I did, that's the pastebin log I gaveyou. Im usinfg WinSCP though, not putty (also has a GUI)19:56
arcadegeekwel it has onbeord memory and saves the layout, and u can config macro's19:56
W4spprimefalcon: I'm still not convinced that the li number expression will work.19:56
ActionParsnipaleprovencio: you could have a batch script to set the language then launch the browser, then when it closes run a final command to set the keysetback19:56
primefalconsed '100d' Passwords.txt isn't doing it either... I am starting to hate sed....19:57
sianhuloin "usb pairing" i get a diferent response than in the tutorial. i get this instead http://pastebin.com/YrLS35dd what can i do?19:57
ActionParsniparcadegeek: maybe in Windows, but this is in Ubuntu so the software with those devices doesn't apply here19:57
aleprovencioActionParsnip, ok will try your suggestion thanks19:58
W4spprimefalcon: There's a saying that if you have one small problem that you want to solve with regex you end up having two probs, a small one and a big one.19:58
ActionParsnipSaiki: yes but it;snot very useful. Can you give the pastebin (or image) of the output of;  sudo apt-get update19:58
arcadegeekcmon realy? mac and windows suports raizer keybeords19:58
ActionParsniparcadegeek: go ask raizer if they want to support Linux'19:58
bekksarcadegeek: And a raizer keyboard has absolutely nothing to do with his issue.19:58
ActionParsniparcadegeek: youo'll probably find they act as standard mice in Linux19:58
LikeOo la libertad ohh!!!19:59
arcadegeekoke so u tell me none of my hardware works not of my expensive top of the line stuff, and my stuff is to blame19:59
bekksNo one said that.19:59
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its the support by nvidia, I'm sure none of youor systems are top of the line19:59
arcadegeeknvidea dous suprt linux, raizer dousnt suport linux19:59
SaikiActionParsnip: same output20:00
ActionParsniparcadegeek: not optimus though, they have great support for single GPUs20:00
LikeLinux..20:00
savioedgars,20:00
sianhulohave someone managed to use a ps3 controller via usb?20:00
ActionParsnipSaiki: I want the package issue that is slightly obscred in the screenshot you gave20:00
primefalconW4sp, yeah I had this kinda issue a long time ago with sed with a website that was hacked, and needing to remove the offending code..... shoul saved that so I could see what was in there20:00
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SaikiActionParsnip: ah.. sec20:00
arcadegeekmaybe u sude think more like how the hole linux thing started, u know haking it re witing it from inside out20:01
LikeThx from here20:01
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why is that anything in this situation?20:01
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you think Microsoft ust popped up in a day and had thouosands of coders? Are you that ignorant?20:02
arcadegeeknothing is working, expensive mac, expensive desktop, u dont care20:02
SaikiActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/2nuwA3xf20:02
W4spprimefalcon: d seems to be a zero address command. We need to find a way ohw to use address <number>20:02
ActionParsniparcadegeek: i've giben you why you are having the issue, it's nvidia that doesn't care. Go cry them a river20:02
W4spprimefalcon: You're using version 4.2.1 right?20:02
bekksarcadegeek: Things are not working the way you want them to work, and you just ignored well known pitfalls when bying your hardware.20:02
ActionParsnipSaiki: what are you trying to install?20:02
SaikiActionParsnip: java20:03
primefalconW4sp, got it working basically with sed -i '100d' Passwords.txt so now I guess I can start building back up20:03
arcadegeekthere were no pitfals in my system20:03
ActionParsnipSaiki: do you mean for web browsers?20:03
bekksThere are. You've been told about that Optimus pitfall.20:03
ActionParsniparcadegeek: there is and always will be, no OS is bugless20:03
SaikiActionParsnip: no, for tomcat20:03
ActionParsnipSaiki: it's also down to support, Companies make more money supporting WIndows and as they are businesses will aim for that, obviously20:04
ActionParsniparcadegeek: ^20:04
arcadegeekiv always been on the mac, so wen i had to change to windows last year i want with trusted stuff intel nvidea20:04
ActionParsnipSaiki: wrong target, sorry dude20:04
W4spprimefalcon: I'm working with -e, then linenumber<d>20:04
SaikiActionParsnip: no worries20:04
W4spprimefalcon: I guess you'll get on with it now.20:04
primefalconthx for the help W4sp20:05
ActionParsniparcadegeek: I have a number of systems with zero issues all work 100% out of the box, no need for driver CDs for anything. My hardware is super linux supported so I buy it20:05
arcadegeektell me20:05
arcadegeekur specs20:05
ActionParsniparcadegeek: it's Nvidia too, nvidea doesn't xist20:05
W4spprimefalcon: If that fails there's awk(ward).20:05
ActionParsniparcadegeek: Dell Latitude D420  100% OOTB on any linux distro I have tried20:05
arcadegeekdell?20:06
rodgerr_ncI have a new terrabyte disk and I want  to duplicate my old 750 gig disk onto my new disk.  How do I do this?20:06
primefalconW4sp, that was going to be next try.... awk and sed are commands I havn't used obviously :-(20:06
ActionParsniparcadegeek: ASUS P1-AH2 Pundit with onboard 6150LE GPU and Atheros wifi, 100% OOTB20:06
ActionParsniparcadegeek: yes its a dell laptop20:06
primefalconanyhow I am off for now W4sp thanks for the help again! :-)20:06
sianhulohas someone experience connecting ps3 controller via usb?all i ca find is for bluetooth20:06
arcadegeekpcrosesor20:06
arcadegeekrapics card20:07
arcadegeekram20:07
ActionParsniparcadegeek: Compaq old thing circa 1998 running Ubuntu server with the same atheros wifi, 100% OOTB20:07
ActionParsniparcadegeek: Intel CPU, Intel GPU, 3Gb RAM20:07
W4spprimefalcon: Are you there...?20:07
arcadegeekwhat intel20:07
ActionParsnipSaiki: I know a PPA for Oracle java20:07
primefalconyeah just20:07
arcadegeeki520:07
arcadegeeki720:07
W4spprimefalcon: I think I got what you need.20:07
arcadegeekpentium, xeon20:08
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why is it important, its a CPU, the CPU is irrelevant with blank screens during installation20:08
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why do you need to know20:08
arcadegeekits important20:08
SaikiActionParsnip: ?20:08
arcadegeekvery20:08
bekksarcadegeek: It is totally irrelevant.20:08
primefalconW4sp, that would be great20:08
arcadegeeka xeon can hardly drive 3D20:08
bekksThats a lie.20:08
SaikiActionParsnip: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java1.6.0_12/bin  <this s the one I need20:08
ActionParsniparcadegeek: how is 3D important if the screen is blank/20:09
arcadegeek?20:09
arcadegeekwhat?20:09
ActionParsnipSaiki: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html20:09
arcadegeekso its a dead pc?20:09
W4spprimefalcon: Original is sed -n "$lineToDelete"'d'` but would try to use sed -e '$lineToDelete'd <filename>20:09
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why do you need the CPU. It has nothing to do with display and black screens...20:09
ActionParsniparcadegeek: no I'm chatting to you on it now.20:10
SaikiActionParsnip: that's 7 though, I need 620:10
W4spprimefalcon: It works here.20:10
disownI am wondering is there any difference from a daemon program such as sshd , ...etc running in the background and a program I disown or nohup in the background ?20:10
arcadegeekits important20:10
bekksdisown: Yes, there are :)20:10
ActionParsniparcadegeek: the CPU is a Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU      U2500  @ 1.20GHz 32bit20:10
arcadegeekit cant render 3D to wel20:10
disownessentially aren't they both deamons20:10
disownwhat is the differences bekks ?20:10
ActionParsniparcadegeek: why is that important, even if it was 1.5Ghz it wouldn't make any difference to the installation experience20:10
bekksdisown: A daemon was initially started as root, then dropped the root privileges (normally). Something just running in the background doesnt do that.20:11
ActionParsniparcadegeek: that is irrelevant here, why is rendering 3D a factor?20:11
ActionParsniparcadegeek: I do game on it FYI too, peumbra plays well20:11
arcadegeekmaybe bicus im a 3D grapics disigner20:11
bekksdisown: This difference is important, since otherwise you could start daemons like sshd, apache, etc. which use ports below 1024.20:11
ActionParsniparcadegeek: but your issue is installation....so how is any of this of value20:11
MoTecyou sure aren't an english major20:12
arcadegeekwel say its instald on an raspbery pi20:12
bekks*couldnt :)20:12
arcadegeekthen its apsolutly pointles to have it20:12
disown" A daemon was initially started as root, then dropped the root privileges (normally). Something just running in the background doesnt do that." Well other then that sinces that can be taken care of be the application it self code in it20:12
MoTecarcadegeek is a troll, i believe.  or acting close enough to one to not make a difference.20:12
ActionParsniparcadegeek: again, how is the fact my own CPU cannot render 3D (in youropinion) relevant to anything we are discussing, or your issue?20:12
shookeesHey guys, anyone coding in haskell?20:12
ActionParsniparcadegeek: who said you should have it?20:13
bekksdisown: Thats the most important difference.20:13
arcadegeekhave what20:13
disownthis is the equivalent of using the sticky bit kind of20:13
bekksNope :)20:13
bekksA sticky bit is something totally different, even as equivalent.20:14
ActionParsniparcadegeek: have a raspberry pi (no idea why that needs mentionng) or that my system can't do what you seem to need...why s that a factor in anything regarding your issue?20:14
disownwell all your saying is the program is run by root uid gid 0 and then drops to a different uid or gid20:14
arcadegeeku say the 3D and the graphics dont mater, then why is it buging out on instalation20:14
rwbI'm trying to set up an epson wf-7010 printer with Ubuntu 12.04.  I can "add" the printer fine, when I click "print test page" I get a notification saying printed... but no action on the printer...  Any ideas?20:14
arcadegeekActionParsnip its an example20:14
ActionParsniparcadegeek: can you answer my simple question please20:14
shookeesrwb, have you tried printing anything else?20:14
arcadegeekto ur why is a cpu important20:14
arcadegeekActionParsnip what question20:15
ActionParsnip(21:14:09) ActionParsnip: arcadegeek: have a raspberry pi (no idea why that needs mentionng) or that my system can't do what you seem to need...why s that a factor in anything regarding your issue?20:15
rwbyes, printing works fine on a different lazer jet20:15
W4sprwb: I would check within CUPS (localhost:631) what your print queue stays. Also, there are CLI lpstat, lpc.20:15
ActionParsniparcadegeek: i'll paste it as scrolling or even looking up seems too hard for you20:15
W4sprwb: You job may be in the queue. IF you are on trouble shooting try to avoid GUI as the easily lie.20:16
arcadegeekActionParsnip wel ur not runing crisis anytime soon on a pi, u get what im saying20:16
ActionParsniparcadegeek: so what, why is that something to worry about when you cant boot your system that isn't a Pi?20:16
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its completely irrelevant, moot, worthless20:16
arcadegeekActionParsnip ehm its relivent aperently sine the i7 wont instal20:17
ActionParsnipSaiki: you'll need to grab the java 6 bin file from the oracle site and copy it to /opt20:17
arcadegeekActionParsnip grapics are importent, since there some iseu with it aperently, so isnt ubunto/linux lacking somthing there20:18
ActionParsnipSaiki: mark it as executable and run it, you can then change the path you need to reflect the one in opt, or copy it to wherever you need the java path to start, it will make a folder with the files needed for java in the place you run it20:18
sianhulois there a way to connect my sixasis with ubuntu via usb?all i find is via bluetooth, and i have a desktop20:18
ActionParsniparcadegeek: its nvidia, like I have told you so many times20:18
disown" well all your saying is the program is run by root uid gid 0 and then drops to a different uid or gid after it initializes sensitive stuff" couldn't this be accomplished by creating a program with uid gid 0 access only then after it is done with the sensitive stuff just have it fork a process that isn't as restrictive20:19
arcadegeekActionParsnip so replace the nvidea card with an ati, is that it?20:19
ActionParsniparcadegeek: intel loves linux, a lot, it ploughs time and money into the kernel and drivers. Using just Intel video will run well. As soon as you add an nvidia gpu to the mix youwill get issues.20:19
guntbertarcadegeek: please stop arguing, is there a problem with which you need help?20:19
ActionParsniparcadegeek: no, that ATI also makes issues20:19
arcadegeekActionParsnipthen what can i do20:20
arcadegeekthere arent any others20:20
ActionParsniparcadegeek: I can't tell you any more, we have gone round in circles so many times and if you don't get it by now you need to scroll up and reread as i will just say the same stuff over and over20:20
bekksdisown: A program like that is called a daemon.20:20
disownthe only part not sure of is when forking how to change the uid / gid /umask of the new forked process but I bet there is away20:20
disownonces that is done it is essentially the same as a daemon correct20:21
ActionParsniparcadegeek: you need to add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=120:21
arcadegeekActionParsnip dude u tell me the video card is the iseu, i told i need a videocard to output somthing,(u never answerd me on that) so what card do i need20:21
SaikiActionParsnip: I see "download Done." but nothing else has popped up on my server20:21
disownthough I do think daemon sounds cooler :)20:21
bekksdisown: cooler than... daemon?20:21
SaikiActionParsnip: nvm, just delayed20:22
ActionParsniparcadegeek: as the cpu has a gpu inbuilt you could change that, or just use the intel on its own. Its all I can suggest. Didn't you research before you bought...?20:22
arcadegeekActionParsnip i still have no output20:22
ActionParsniparcadegeek: hold SHIFT at boot...tried that...?20:23
arcadegeekur not listening to me20:23
disownno daemon is cooler then regular disown/nohup program :)20:24
ActionParsniparcadegeek: as soon as the system starts to boot, even before the post beep, hold SHIFT20:24
arcadegeekif i change the boot to intel only i wont get any output, there is no vga port on the back of my pc, only the nvidea card, i had to change it blind last time20:24
disownfor the name20:24
BaronNinjaShoo be doo this is a lot of lurkers20:25
disownthough zombie process is cool to for the name :)20:25
disownbut we have that already20:25
disownmaybe devil process20:25
ActionParsniparcadegeek: if you boot to a Lucid CD, then upgrade is it ok?20:27
BaronNinjaYep, resizing partitions takes a looooong time...20:27
arcadegeekActionParsnip what?20:27
PRabytewhy upgrade, you might brack other things, thats not the way to approach a singlular issue ActionParsnip20:27
ActionParsniparcadegeek: Try booting the previous LTS CD and installing then upgrade LTS to LTS directly to Precise20:28
PRabytewow!20:28
aguiteli cannot running plasma desktop (kde) only false plasma session , how i know why ?20:28
ActionParsnipPRabyte: might help with the install issue using an older Xorg and drivers20:28
arcadegeeku got a iso link to an older version20:28
ActionParsnip!download20:28
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low!20:28
linuxguy101what will replace the flash player for linux?20:28
ActionParsniparcadegeek: or you could search the web, its not hard20:28
arcadegeekwhats a stable version? 10, 11 or do i have to go back more?20:29
ActionParsniplinuxguy101: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux20:29
ActionParsniparcadegeek: 10.0420:30
DarkPeak<linuxguy101>: Have you installe dthe restricted extras package?20:30
alex20032Guy, I am wondering how can I switch the spellcheking globally (Need to altern fast between french and english, Not only in Libre office, but every application, including firefox, I live in a billingual region.) Only spell checking and dictionary, not the system language20:30
arcadegeekActionParsnip thx il try that20:30
sianhulowhen typing dmesg i get this http://pastebin.com/kHtibULx ps3 controller is seen by the system, but it does nothing, how do i configure it in my computer?20:31
ActionParsniparcadegeek: see what happens if you actually state your issue20:31
linuxguy101ActionParsnip: so i am stuck running it on chrome?  ewww..20:31
ActionParsniparcadegeek: "(19:59:30) arcadegeek: i realy want to like and suport linux ubuntu and stuff"           <- stuff like that20:32
sre-suHello! I'm using gcc version 4.6.3 on Ubuntu. Is there a way to access function declaration/syntax/definition offline like the way man allows for any command? (I remember using Borland TC++ which had Index, Contents etc.. for reference) Is there man pages package which contains C standard library functions/help/index?20:32
RoastedSo.. my server gets offset from NTP servers about 3/4 of a second per day... Is this by any stretch of the imagination - normal?20:32
arcadegeekimsorry im just pist after failure after faleure20:32
ActionParsniplinuxguy101: i'm sure crappy firefox will make something but at present thats the deal20:32
ActionParsniplinuxguy101: could try gnash or20:33
gld1982ltdhey.........what is the channel for packaging?20:33
linuxguy101ActionParsnip: i may give it a shot, i am not a huge fan of flash, i want an open source alternative that will be better than flash20:33
gld1982ltdnm.....got it20:33
ActionParsniplinuxguy101: or lightspark20:34
m1chaeli'm thinking of switching my server from CentOS to Ubuntu.. what would you guys say about that?20:34
W4spRoasted: Not neccessarily. Did you install the second one more recently?20:34
OerHekslinuxguy101, no need for flash in youtube, enable html520:34
ActionParsnipW4sp: try it, see how it goes :)20:34
bekksm1chael: Do whatever you want to do. :)20:34
RoastedW4sp, install the 2nd what - there's another NTP?20:34
ActionParsnipm1chael: try it, see how it goes :)20:34
ActionParsnipW4sp: sorry, wrong target20:34
W4spActionParsnip: I don't get it?20:34
orestesdivx4linux blocking all my updates and synaptic ! what can i do ?20:35
linuxguy101OerHeks: will html5 replace flash like they say it will?20:35
oresteshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204091220:35
Artemis3m1chael, if you can afford the downtime, sure. Backup and switch.20:35
W4spRoasted: The one that's 3/4 offset per day.20:35
OerHekslinuxguy101, maybe, and it is working now ( not for other sites)20:35
ActionParsniplinuxguy101: or use minitube for youtube20:35
m1chaeli just really don't like the CentOS docs20:35
PRabyteActionParsnip: putting in a disk and saying upgrade may break other things. opening the cd and cp the drivers and such makes more sense. he might press a wrong button. agree?20:35
linuxguy101might try that20:35
OerHekswww.youtube.com/html520:35
Artemis3m1chael, i suggest you stick to Ubuntu LTS in your server.20:36
ActionParsnipPRabyte: then upgrade using the web, saves having to upgradethe OS after20:36
PRabytenevermind20:36
yam_hey can anybody tell me what are these little thigs on my print page from a pdf?          http://bit.ly/NoFK6820:37
sianhuloas far as i have read, kernel newer than  2.6.21 should make the ps3 automatically operational20:37
bekksyam_: printing marks.20:37
sianhuloi have 3.2.0-29 but it only detects the controller, it doesnt do anything20:37
yam_how can i get rid of them bekks?20:37
R1cochethello, i have ubuntu 12.04 installed on a vps, im trying to start screen but it says "No More PTY's" "/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory"20:38
R1cochethow can i fix this? ive tried reinstalling screen but it doesnt help20:38
bekksyam_: by asking the author of that pdf to provide a version without printing marks.20:38
ActionParsnipsianhulo: if you add the playdeb repo, do these apps help: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=joy20:39
W4spR1cochet: Could you check ls -la /dev/pts and does /var/run/utmp exist?20:41
yam_anybody knows how i can remove printing marks form a pdf file?20:42
sianhuloi cant see how does that help me, but still, thank you20:42
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TJ-R1cochet: If it's OpenVZ you need to add the utmp file20:43
compdocyam_, you own a scanner?20:43
yam_yep20:43
W4spRoasted: I asked you if you have installed a second host as I assumed you have now two, of which only one is 3/4 off.20:43
compdocprint it, scan it, and edit out the marks.20:43
TJ-R1cochet: I think you need to do: "sudo touch /var/run/utmp && sudo chmod 664 /var/run/utmp && sudo chown root.utmp /var/run/utmp"20:43
OerHekscompdoc print to file saves trees20:44
RoastedW4sp, I'm talking about NTP here... my server gets offset 3/4 of a second per day, so after a while the time of course is way out of whack. I'm just trying to track if that's in any way normal or what.20:45
DebolazCould someone send me a private message? I need to test if the xchat-indicator package is working.20:45
R1cochetW4sp: only thing in /dev/pts is "0"20:46
R1cochetTJ-: i ran those commands, it did not help20:46
sianhulohttp://ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/ this says that my ps3 controllers should be working withput doing anything because of my kernel version, but it's not20:46
sianhulothe system sees my controller, but the cotroller doesn't do anything20:47
lilredsianhulo, while I am not familiar with your problem, the page you linked clearly says its out of date - can't that be related?20:48
lilredanyway20:48
primefalconW4sp, you still around?20:48
W4spR1cochet: That's not sufficient and is clearly wrong. That's why you have it. Out of my curiosity. The error message is a copy/paste? I wonder if the auther couldn't spell.20:48
W4spprimefalcon: Yeah.20:48
lilredsianhulo, can you pastebin the result of dmesg | tail -420:48
primefalcongot it working with echo -e "$passwordlist" | sed -e "$lineToDelete"d | cat -n20:48
primefalconas you suggested pretty much20:48
lilrednah, just dmesg20:48
W4spprimefalcon: Hey, that's great. Good to hear.20:48
sianhulolilred, it actually says that kernelnewer than 2.6.21 should works without the patch they provide20:49
W4spprimefalcon: Doyou use double quotes?20:49
primefalconW4sp, thanks for your help :-) again :-) for some reason had to you the duble quotes though20:49
R1cochetW4sp: simcut@whatever:~$ ls -la /dev/pts20:49
R1cochettotal 2020:49
R1cochetdrwxr-xr-x  2 root   root      0 Mar 27 17:59 .20:49
R1cochetdrwxr-xr-x 11 root   root  20480 Aug 11 14:54 ..20:49
lilredsianhulo, two things, what is your Ubuntu version? and can you give me the result of dmesg?20:49
R1cochetcrw--w----  1 simcut tty  136, 0 Aug 12 00:49 020:49
FloodBot1R1cochet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:49
guntbertDebolaz: you can use #test for that purpose :)20:49
R1cochetsorry20:49
primefalconW4sp, wouldn't work with single quotes.. same code20:50
W4spprimefalcon: OK, good to know. Good luck20:50
sianhulolilred, 12.04 http://pastebin.com/H17zt0ep20:51
lilredokay, understand that I am in no way an expert, but I'll still try to help you :)20:52
gomekGreetings everyone20:52
primefalconso now have it 100% working with: echo -e "$passwordlist" | sed -e "$lineToDelete"d | gpg -e -r $gpgKey > "$location/Passwords.txt.gpg"20:52
sianhulolilred, it appears in both lsusb and dmesg20:52
lilredso, the OS detects your controller! This is good news20:52
lilredexactly what is not working?20:52
edgyhow can i know which packages require a specific package?20:52
sianhulolilred, yep, n problems there, but i cant get it to interact with anything20:52
lilred"anything" being?20:53
lilredtell me something you've tried :P20:53
OrphisHi20:53
sianhulolilred, i wat to use it as a controller, but it gives no responses when ussing sticks, buttons triiger or anything20:53
lilredhi Orphis!20:53
lilredsianhulo, controller in what?20:53
W4spR1cochet: Once you have pastebin that please can I also ask if you mount command shows something like devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)?20:54
OrphisI've just installed ubuntu on a new computer and the installer couldn't install grub (probably because it's a gpt disk)20:54
sianhulolilred, emulators, but as it is, it left stick SHOULD act as mouse20:54
gomekHas anyone tried Xubuntu?20:54
OrphisSo I've tried to use the grub for EFI but I'm having a hard time making it work20:54
lilredokay, so emulators don't work20:55
sianhulolilred, and the problem here is that there are not tutorials as it should work with my kernel(that's why i had to bring an outdated tutorial), the only tutorials there are are for paiing it via bluetooth20:55
lilredthis is a silly question, but have you tried playing with the control configuration in your emulator's options?20:55
OrphisI've got some efi shell that I use to run the grub.efi but I don't have any menu and it stops with this error message "file not found"20:55
guntbertgomek: no polls here please - this channel is for support only20:55
sianhulolilred, nothing works, it is detected by the system but it doesn't do nothing20:56
lilredalright, I'm stumped :(20:56
R1cochetW4sp: how do i check the mount command?20:56
lilredThis page looks like it has help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis/20:56
lilredwait, you're right, bluetooth20:56
sianhulolilred, even though its detected you don't get a "reaction"20:56
lilred-_-20:56
W4spR1cochet: You type in mount in a terminal. IT shows you the mounted devices.20:56
gomekok20:57
sianhulolilred, it would help if i hade bluettoth in my computer, but i have a desktop20:57
R1cochetW4sp: http://pastie.org/445711620:57
KhasHiya.  How do I edit/restart wpa_supplicant from the command line?20:57
KhasI've created wpa_supplicant.conf, but I have no idea how to restart it in ubuntu from the livecd XD20:57
defigoKhas, checkout iwconfig20:58
lilredsianhulo, it's detected as a HID device, meaning it's supposed to work20:58
sianhulolilred, the link i gave says that even though the controller is seen by the system, you should make it "operational" before you can do anything with it, and they provide a patch, but they also say that in newer kernel that patch isnt necesary as it comes with it20:58
Khasdefigo: I need WPA2, iwconfig doesn't support that.20:58
lilredI honestly have no idea what's wrong20:58
sianhulolilred, yep, thats the prblem, it is SUPPOSED to work, but it's not20:59
lilredHID is my territory, and usually something that works as HID works out of the box20:59
KhasUnless it's been updated when I didn't realise o.o20:59
lilred:(20:59
defigoKhas, you're maybe right, it's been a while since i've used it, so networkmanager doesn't work?21:00
Bhalashwicd?21:00
Khasdefigo: I have no mouse.  I'm only using it as a livecd to get the wireless for my new and New card, so I can install Gentoo.21:00
KhasExcept I have no idea how on earth ubuntu works internally, it feels all wrong XD21:01
defigoKhas, you can use networkmanager from terminal too21:01
Khasdefigo: oooh, nice, what's the command? networkmanager isn't found21:01
defigoNetworkManager21:01
W4spR1cochet: I read it. IT is clearly wrong and also wrongly mounted. See my suggestions on how it should look. You mentioned it is a VPS. Given that you have pasted it I assume you have full root access. However, I would suggest you contact the rack space provider. Explain to them that /dev/ptmx isn't properly mounted on /dev/pts and therefore you ran out of pseudo terminals.21:02
sianhulolilred, furthermore, it get's recognized by QTsixA(though this app is for pairing via bluetooth so this doesn't help)21:02
W4spR1cochet: This is how it should look like: devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)21:02
R1cochetW4sp: i think i mounted it last night myself21:03
R1cochetiirc21:03
R1cocheti just did a reboot on it21:03
Khasdefigo: it's already running?  I tried killall and started it again, but it was reloaded.21:03
defigoKhas, it's service so service NetworkManager restart   ... etc21:04
sre-suHello! I'm using gcc version 4.6.3 on Ubuntu. Is there a way to access function declaration/syntax/definition offline like the way man allows for any command? (I remember using Borland TC++ which had Index, Contents etc.. for reference) Is there man pages package which contains C standard library functions/help/index?21:04
W4spR1cochet: You...? Well, did you install the system? It shoudl be there just by default. Nothing much you can do wrong to be honest.21:04
defigoKhas, but man NetworkManager ... I assume you're more advanced with linux than me if you're going to install gentoo :)21:04
R1cocheti did not install the system. it is a friends vps21:05
trismsre-su: manpages-dev if I understand you correctly21:05
R1cocheti was trying to play with it last night. finally got sudoers working today21:05
R1cochethe was logging in as root :(21:05
sre-sutrism: Yes, I installed that package. But not sure how to use it21:06
W4spR1cochet: As I said, the best is to approach the provider and explain the situation. This is the root cause why your utmp throws the execption.21:06
trismsre-su: man function_name21:07
Khasdefigo: yeah, I've never used NetworkManager before, I set everything up manually21:07
oisaSysinfo tells me I have 16GB of swap, but I chose to not setup a swap partition. Is there a swap file set by Ubuntu somewhere?21:08
defigoKhas, I bet you do :) Is your card detected?21:08
trismsre-su: there are also some pages for the individual headers, man stdio; man string; etc21:08
sre-sutrism: It gave o results for <man while> but works for man printf scanf etc21:09
trismsre-su: while isn't a function21:09
compdocoisa, you can use gparted and look21:09
sre-suYes, it isn't21:09
Khasdefigo: in ubuntu, yes.  The ubuntu live cd has a slightly newer kernel than the gentoo livecd, which is why I need it for wireless.  After that I copy gentoo files, then chroot into gentoo anyway. :-)21:10
sre-sutrism: There is no offline access to index and help data related to C ?21:10
minimecoisa: You should see that in /etc/fstab, if and where a swap partition or file is mounted.21:10
LiWhat mplayer2 version is more up to date, the one that's in ubuntu's repos or https://launchpad.net/~ripps818/+archive/coreavc21:10
defigoKhas, /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf21:10
W4spR1cochet: Besides, loggin in as root is not a bad thing. At some point a system needs to be administered. Don't blame him/her for that. ;-)21:11
oisaGparted shows I do have swap on an extended partition... Thanks21:11
oisaCan you resize an ext4 partition live?21:11
trismsre-su: there may be, I don't know of any of the top of my head, I'll see if there is anything in the repo21:11
Khasdefigo: argh! The only thing that should be capital in linux is X :-P21:11
oisaNevermind I guess not... Thanks21:12
Khas(I jest)21:12
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sianhulohave anyone used a ps3 controller on ubuntu?21:12
defigokhas, iwconfig wlan0 essid NAME_OF_ACCESS_POINT21:12
Khasdefigo: it's a WPA2 AP, iwconfig doesn't support WPA2.21:12
R1cochetughh i have a larger issue now. i rebooted with `sudo reboot` and now i can log in via ssh21:13
defigoKhas, I guess iwconfig and networkmanager works together... (I'm just reading askubuntu)21:13
R1cocheti can even ping the server21:13
* W4sp .oO(defigo is right about capitalisation)21:13
narcosHi all. Has anyone ever had luck getting pyOpenSSL >= 0.12 installed on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?21:13
W4spR1cochet: If that's for me please put my name into it. It highlights here and we have >1500 user online.21:14
Khasdefigo: wpa_supplicant is what I need.  And it seems to be a service, too.21:14
W4spR1cochet: Is it can or can't ...?21:14
R1cochetW4sp: sorry. it was for anyone that had any idea how to help.21:14
sre-sutrism: Thanks21:14
R1cocheti cannot ping the server now. nor ssh, nor open address in browser21:15
R1cochetW4sp: ssh: connect to host 67.23.238.37 port 22: Connection timed out21:15
defigoKhas, I have vague recollection that if you config wpa_supplicant it works with iwconfig (from slackware times so awhile back) but I could be wrong.. I'll try to dig up some old links21:15
W4spR1cochet: That's perhaps something we would expect as there are no pts available.21:15
R1cochetW4sp: so if i cant login via ssh, how can i administer?21:16
W4spR1cochet: You can't. Speak to the provider. I would only repeat what I have said to you earlier.21:17
R1cochetok ty21:17
ubuntu-gpt-hddHi, I formatted a 3TB HDD as NTFS (GPT) using Disk Utility in Ubuntu, but can't access the files on my Windows computer. Does Ubuntu encrypt the data copied across?21:17
bekksubuntu-gpt-hdd: No.21:18
ubuntu-gpt-hddI also has a sectar misalignment message while formatting the HDD, any ideas?21:18
CokeAddicthow do I find all files in a dir containing a piece of text?21:19
defigokhan, "* The wpa_supplicant.conf example in the previous section will support WPA as well as WPA2 encrypted networks. "21:19
dbtmro2Hi. My sopcast channels won't wok anymore on VLC Ubuntu 12.04 x32. Please help.21:19
bekksCokeAddict: grep subject file.name21:19
sandpricklelooking for some reccomendations on an Ubuntu derivative21:20
guntbertsandprickle: not here please - this channle is for support only21:21
Debolazsandprickle: You might want to try ##linux21:22
defigokhas, proto=WPA WPA2    seems to be only difference to wpa121:22
Khasdefigo: I don't see a proto directive in the man pages for iwconfig21:25
KhasI'm happy to try NetworkManager if I knew what I was doing.  So far I've turned 'managed' from 'false' to 'true'21:25
Gary_inNYCI have an issue trying to mount an SD card in 10.04, where it only shows up as SecureDigitalDrive but cannot be opened.21:25
sandprickleappologies21:25
obscurant1stI installed gnome3 along with unity. Now when I select gnome3 on my login screen, only a prt of my desktop is being displayed. Can somebody help me please?21:25
defigokhas, can you pastenbin your wpa_supplicant.conf?21:25
defigokhas, oh right you can't use mouse21:26
Gary_inNYCi have the SD card in an external usb reader but the sd card can't be opened21:26
defigoKhas, can you pm it to me somehow?21:27
TJ-CokeAddict: "find /path/to/directory -maxdepth 1 -exec grep -ni 'findthistext' {}; \21:27
Khasdefigo: wgetpaste ftw ;-)21:27
Khashttps://gist.github.com/332741721:27
bekksTJ-: OUCH.21:27
TJ-bekks: ;p21:27
bekksTJ-: grep -ri thistext *.txt :)21:27
Khasdefigo: if I knew where the default wpa_supplicant.conf to edit was, I'd be fine, when I kill wpa_supplicant it gets restarted anyway21:27
TJ-bekks: no that won't work for *all* files - it will miss any that begin with a dot such as .config21:28
bekksTJ-: grep -ri thistext .21:28
bekks:P21:28
DanSHmm.. how do you stop X on ubunto 12.04?21:28
bekksOr even grep -ri thistext * .*21:28
TrollingForSoupkillall xorg-server maybe, DanS21:28
DanSthanks.21:28
TrollingForSoupNot sure if that's the process name.21:29
TJ-bekks: if you do grep -r 'text' .* (to try an check sub-dirs - a very useful thing when working with source-code packages)  it'll try to follow .. to the parent directory21:29
obscurant1stsomebody please?21:30
TJ-bekks: I once expereince a runaway grep in the linux source tree ... scared the thingies out of me wondering what I'd typed!21:30
TJ-DanS: "sudo service lightdm stop"21:30
DanShmm. doesn't seem to..21:31
defigoKhas, try to add in network block         key_mgmt=WPA-PSK WPA-EAP21:31
aguiteli am installing nvidia-current drver is needed to blacklist nouveau ?21:32
Khasdefigo: wpa_supplicant works fine, I'm running it now to talk to you with that config on gentoo. ;-) It's WPA_supplicant, it tests the type of WPA that the AP is broadcasting.21:32
primefalcon!mk g721:32
defigoKhas, so it's all working now?21:32
primefalcon!mk G721:32
KhasHeh no, this is my laptop.21:32
KhasI was just explaining how wpa_supplicant worked.21:33
KhasThe problem isn't the config, the problem is how to tell ubuntu to use that config XD21:33
DanSthanks that worked.21:33
Noriandirhi. i'm not being able to boot the ubuntu 12.04 through a usb pen. I get a black screen after a bit21:33
Noriandirthe LCD has its power led flashing... =/21:34
Noriandirany ideas?21:34
Noriandirusb pen created using Lili USB21:35
defigoKhas, I think that  you only need to restart the NetworkManager service, or shut it down and use iwconfig21:36
Khasdefigo: I tried server NetworkManager restart and it said there was no such service.21:37
defigoKhas, try with network-manager ... it's listed in the services that way anyway21:38
Khasdefigo: thanks.  A bit illogical, but I guess it's done now21:38
davv3are there any official people here helping at all?21:39
davv3it just feels like chaos..21:39
defigoKhas, is it working? and yes it is illogical21:39
defigoKhas, well at least non consistent :)21:40
Khasdefigo: stopping network-manager allowed me to kill wpa_supplicant, running it directly from the command line worked. Thanks.21:40
defigoKhas, glad (and supprised) I could help :)21:41
aleonghi folks, I was wondering if someone had time to help me with a problem getting audio to work over HDMI21:42
aleongI've got a TV hooked up to the onboard HDMI port, video is working but audio is not.  HDMI doesn't show up as an option in System Settings -> Sound21:43
TJ-davv3: This is Ubuntu community support21:44
OrphisIs someone here using grub-efi to boot ubuntu?21:45
OrphisI'd like to get the list of files in the efi boot partition21:45
OrphisThere's something wrong with mine and I'd like to figure out what21:46
xui34where is the appropriate place to put a backup script that is started by cron daily?21:47
TrollingForSoupAnywhere.21:47
TrollingForSoupAs long as you point cron to the right place.21:47
TrollingForSoupI just store them all in root, but probably not the best idea, organization-wise.21:47
W4spxui34: /usr/local/sbin or /usr/sbin ?21:49
TopolHow do I get BlueRay working?21:49
TopolMy mp3's don't work how do I fix this21:49
TopolHow do i customize Unity, it sucks21:49
xui34W4sp: that is what I was thinking...21:49
Topollulz will ensure21:49
[deXter]Topol, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats21:50
Topolloooooooool21:51
TopolUbuntuce is really gay21:52
Topolpls halp21:52
pnormanI'm compiling something from source that's also available as a package (gdal-bin) and installing it with checkinstall. Should I give it the same name with checkinstall?21:53
josthi21:55
jostIs there a simple (i.e. fast to set up) ftp server for ubuntu, which allows virtual users to be created?21:55
[deXter]pnorman, No21:56
TJ-jost: proftpd supports virtual users21:56
jostsecurity would be nice, too, but should be the topmost concern in this case21:56
pnorman[deXter]: What's the appropriate name then?21:56
deadmundoh gawd21:56
deadmunddon't use ftp21:56
deadmundftp needs to die21:56
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[deXter]pnorman, Anything other than a name in the repos21:56
jostdeadmund, what do you suggest as replacement?21:57
deadmundjost: what more precisely are you trying to do?21:57
Noriandirjost: try vsftpd21:57
bekksjost: AT LEAST using SFTP.21:57
pnorman[deXter]: Is there a way to indicate that my machine has the software and it shouldn't ever try to install it with apt?21:57
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deadmundOff the top of my head either use scp or nfs21:58
* Debolaz has a FTP server running on localhost because wordpress wants it.21:58
bekksdeadmund: NFS3 is as insecure as FTP.21:58
deadmunduhhhh... so?21:59
bekksdeadmund: At least NFS4 using kerberos.21:59
TJ-jost: what Noriandir said ... vsftpd21:59
deadmundbekks: I agree.21:59
bekksdeadmund: In that case, SFTP is as secure and much easier.21:59
deadmundUnless of course we're all talking about anything outside of an internal LAN behind a firewall21:59
deadmundbekks: sftp is secure I suppose...22:00
jostI'm trying to upload a website (about 11k files and 2-3 GB data) to a server. Copying over SSH is not an option due to the size of the upload and the instability of my internet connection (at least one disconnect per day...)22:01
jostdeadmund22:01
deadmundjost: Try using rysnc :)22:01
pnormanI don't like FTP for a few reasons, but security isn't always an issue - when downloading publically available files with an anonymous login it doesn't really matter if someone sniffs the  connection22:01
pnormanjost: rsync22:01
deadmundjost: You can setup a simple script but likely it's one rsync command22:01
bekksrsync -e ssh :)22:01
omidoHi,newbie here. how can i remove the previously configured settings of an app? for example i want to remove the past manual configurations that i did to opera browser.22:02
pnormanalso, ftp is a bad choice for lots of files22:02
deadmundomido: Find that apps . folder in your home folder (hidden settings folder)22:02
jostsecurity wouldn't be a real problem here - the ftp deamon would be stopped after the upload, I only need to do that every 3-4 months or so.22:02
omidodeadmund,  how can i do so ? i'm newbie22:02
deadmundomido: do you have a /home/<youruser>/.opera?   (make sure you have hidden file view on22:03
jostbut thanks for the hints about rsync22:03
deadmundjost: I see :)22:03
jostlooks just like the thing I've always needed :-)22:04
deadmundyeah, rsync is awesome22:04
omidodeadmund,  thanks22:06
deadmundomido: sure! :)22:06
ESphynxHey guys, so what dependency should I list if I want lib32ffi-dev?22:07
laumonierhi ive got no sound on ubuntu can someone can help me to fix that?? thx22:09
mhahehello ppl, i updated my computer and for some reason now my wireless brodcom drivers are disabled and so are my nvidea gfx drivers... i tried to reactive but i keep getting this msg: Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log22:09
mhaheany reason this is happening?22:10
deadmundlaumonier: this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting/22:10
douglwhat do you suppose would make a printout do this http://imagebin.org/22420122:12
JainAmberHello22:13
JainAmberDoes Ubuntu runs any slower if wubi/windows installer is used instead of 'native' install?22:14
JainAmberI guess it does run slow, but I still thought of asking...22:14
cmaiz82hi all, can you help me about unity bar? not show the icons :S22:15
cmaiz82i upgrade and after reboot not see any icons, but i can use it22:16
TJ-JainAmber: it shouldn't run slower, except that when reading/writing disk it won't have as great a throughput as when it is installed to a disk partition.22:18
JainAmberok thanks TJ- :)22:19
W4spmhahe: The best is to pastebin /var/log/jockey.log. Please note the logs rotate and the error message is in an older log file.22:19
cmaiz82how can it remove added repository?22:20
cmaiz82what is the code?22:20
cmaiz82i think the problem is about problematic repository22:21
W4spmhahe: Also, ensure the Broadcom packages are installed (bcm).22:21
mhahew4sp ill post the link to my log soon, but i dont get it why are my drivers missing after an upgrade :S22:22
aguitelcmaiz82, find and delete in /etc/apt/sources.list or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d22:23
xui34does anybody know how to get the username of the person running a script where the script is being run as root?22:23
W4spmhahe: I can't tell but it's probably down to licensing. Some drivers annot be shipped. Also, you may have excluded 3rd party driver.22:24
mhahew4sp, http://pastebin.com/iJ6Fgy9v22:24
mhahethats the log22:24
OerHekscmaiz82, use ppa-purge to delete and restore your sources22:25
aleongreally having a hard time debugging this sound issue.  can anyone advise or point me to a more appropriate channel?22:25
cmaiz82cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$ sudo ppa-purge sudo: ppa-purge: command not found cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$22:25
aleongHDMI is listed in aplay -l but nothing I have tried will play sound22:25
cmaiz82thanks aguitel but i dont see the repository22:26
cmaiz82i added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa22:26
cmaiz82but now i dont know how to remove it22:26
OerHeksaleong, try #alsa22:26
OerHeks!alsa22:26
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.22:26
cmaiz82it seems that the problem with unity bar is for this repository22:26
aleongthanks, I'll ask there :)22:27
ActionParsnipcmaiz82: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa22:27
aguitel!nvidia22:27
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:27
cmaiz82cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa sudo: ppa-purge: command not found cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$22:27
cmaiz82ActionParsnip,22:27
W4spmhahe: Oh well. The answer is in the log file. I suggest you look for alternative ways to source your drivers. They may be on their web site. Also, there are others more qualified when it comes to nvidia and broadcom. There are alternative drivers for nvidia.22:28
ActionParsnipcmaiz82: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge22:28
OerHekssudo apt-get install ppa-purge ( not installed by default, will work with ppa's added before install )22:28
cmaiz82ActionParsnip, oh well, thank you now work xD22:29
trazplanhola22:31
GH0Why does it say that I have five users logged in, but only three are? http://pastebin.com/cbuWdsu322:33
myke_Question: Would a 7850 Radeon Graphics card work well for ubuntu 12.04?22:33
GH0myke_, from what I heard, ATi is not great with linux.22:33
GH0Driver wise.22:33
lilredHey guys, my linux stutters a lot. Any idea how to fix?22:34
lilredwhoops22:34
lilredmy youtube*22:34
myke_oh :( ok thank you22:34
antonio_good evening..22:35
lilredmy youtube stutters, anyone has a fix?22:35
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ActionParsniplilred: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'22:39
antonio_I have thinkpad t60 but i am not able to enable the touchpad..22:40
antonio_any idea??22:40
ActionParsnipantonio_: are there any shortcut keys to enable / disable the touchpad?22:41
lilredActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142007/22:42
antonio_i didn't find any shortcut..22:42
Artemis3antonio_, or a button on top22:42
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ActionParsnipantonio_: try:         synclient TouchpadOff=022:42
antonio_i did already22:42
antonio_no luck >(22:43
ActionParsniplilred: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree22:43
antonio_:(22:43
antonio_ok22:43
antonio_thank you..22:43
GH0Isn't traceroute installed by default on a Ubuntu install.22:44
exutuxGH0: tracepath22:44
W4spGH0: Try tracepath. You need to install traceroute as it is not default.22:44
ActionParsnipantonio_: tried Fn+F7?22:44
ActionParsnipantonio_: what was the sad face for??22:45
GH0Hm, could have sworn I have used traceroute before on a standard ubuntu install. Anyways, thank you.22:45
antonio_fn+f7 doesn't work..22:45
trailbari am trying to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer but the standard ubuntu 12.04 cd does not have a install/netboot folder - which iso/cd is this referring to exactly?22:46
ActionParsnipantonio_: and what was the face for?22:46
antonio_when you said try synclient touchpadoff=022:47
antonio_which i tried already but didn't work, then i made a sad face..22:47
kid47hello22:47
ActionParsnipantonio_: seems you need an xorg.conf file: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T60/etch     may help if its not autodetected.22:49
exutuxtrailbar: alternate iso or minimal too i think22:49
antonio_actionparsnip: any other ideas?22:49
exutuxtrailbar: and server iso22:50
antonio_ok22:50
ActionParsnipantonio_: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i mouse; lsb_release -a      can you please pastebin the output: http://pastie.org22:50
DanSI have problem where I don't have an xorg.conf file in 12.04. Apparently its not needed anymore.  A lot of the internet seems to say "sudo Xorg -configure" but that doesn't work because  the xserver is still running..22:50
ActionParsnipantonio_: you really need to learn patience, I'm not THAT fast, nobody is. Chill out22:51
exutuxDanS: you have to kill X session and run command in tty22:51
ActionParsnipantonio_: cold also try: gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true22:51
trailbarexutux: any way i can confirm for certain which cd? i am not on a fast internet connection would prefer to avoid wasting time downloading another incorrect iso :]22:51
DanSWith 2sudo service lightdm stop"?22:52
exutuxtrailbar: try minimal iso install, it's a small iso... but I'm not sure..22:52
W4spDanS: Wait a moment, please. There's a better way.22:52
exutuxtrailbar: lemem some minutes, so I can download it and see22:52
DanSOkay sure.22:53
Kitar|sthttp://wiresmash.com/amazing/the-prices-of-famous-logos/22:53
Kitar|stwow22:53
ActionParsnipantonio_: Fn+F8 do anything?22:53
ActionParsnipKitar|st: please spam elsewhere22:53
W4spDanS: Teh command would be sudo Xorg :1 -configure > ~/xorg.conf.new22:55
trailbarexutux: hey thanks! but don't trouble yourself actually, i think i'm trying this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/22:55
DanSW4sp: I still get the X is already running error.22:56
trailbarexutux: (but i appreciate it, cheers)22:56
W4spDanS: Once you have done review the file, make changes as required (that's the reason for you to have xorg.conf in the forst place) or merge the settings from an existing conf file.22:56
exutuxtrailbar: well... miniso doesn't has netinstall dir22:57
W4spDanS: Just try :0 or :2. Are you in front of the system that is supposed to have the xorg.conf?22:57
sam_need help to install a source file     sourceforge.net/projects/tvpvrd/22:57
DanSW4ps: Oh, heck sorry missed a space.22:57
W4spDanS: OK. Did you see my other info re. merge of the conf file.22:58
DanSThat's still errored though unfortunately.  "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"  "configureation failed"22:58
m1chaelhey everyone. you know those services out there that work with routers and give you a hostname.dyndns.org -- and no matter what your ip is, it will resolve to your ever-changing cable modem? how does that work? is their TTL set low on the DNS server? is it basically just doing a check and when a change is detected, it updates the DNS server?22:58
antonio_actionparsnip: fn+f8 doesn't do anything. by the way i am not in rush. i can wait.22:59
bekksm1chael: the latter.22:59
sam_anybody know how to install tvpvrd?22:59
antonio_actionparsnip: I paste the output. thank you..22:59
m1chaelokay. i'm going to implement my own with my public name server and my local machine23:00
DanSW4ps: and I did aye.23:00
W4spDanS: Could you check if you have multiple .Xauthority files in your home directory? Delete the older ones.23:00
DanSSure thing.23:00
W4spDanS: You did what? Read my comment or created the file?23:01
ActionParsnipm1chael: just install the client on your server, or if your router supports it, add the account there and it will update periodically so that the IP is correct23:01
alusionI'm running an ubuntu based distro how do I verify what version I'm on?23:01
ActionParsnipm1chael: you don't need a nameserver on your system, your router already performs DNS for you23:02
exutuxW4sp: hey great I didn't knew that Xorg command :D23:02
ActionParsnipalusion: lsb_release -sc      what is output?23:02
DanSW4ps: Only the one .Xauthority file. Though there is an xorg.conf.new in there now.23:02
[PHAMTOM]hello23:02
[PHAMTOM]my scroll whell isnt working23:02
alusionlucid23:03
[PHAMTOM]anyone could help me?23:03
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: is it on a mouse?23:03
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: yup23:03
ActionParsnipalusion: then it's Ubuntu 10.04, the desktop is EOL in April next year23:03
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: a ps223:03
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: does it have a make and model?23:03
m1chaelactionparsnip: i need to be able to access my home machine remotely23:03
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: it says Agiler23:03
ActionParsnipm1chael: then you can install openssh-server and get secure file transfer and shell access23:04
W4spexutux: Your suggestion woul dhave worked to but it would also kill the xsession. That means no IRC anymore.23:04
[PHAMTOM]AGM6620x23:04
m1chaelactionparsnip: yes, but my ip changes all the time at home.. so i need to update my public name server + public sub domain to my local at home IP23:04
ActionParsnipm1chael: why do you need a subdomain for remote access?23:05
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: have you reduced the scroll speed in mouse settngs?23:05
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: it is detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse in /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:05
m1chaelbecause the ip is ever changing, how will i ever know what it's ip is?23:05
DanSW4ps: Okay.. so can i just copy that xorg.conf to /etc/x11 and use that?23:05
rypervenchem1chael: You need ddclient.23:05
exutuxW4sp: yeah right23:05
rypervenchem1chael: You can either have it set up on your router, if it supports it, or on your computer itself.23:05
ActionParsnipm1chael: you won't.If you use dydns then you will use the name you have. The IP gets updated reglarly so when it changes, the internet knows23:06
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: I dont have scroll options in mouse and touchpad settings23:06
ActionParsnipm1chael: there is no sub domain here are all, what you are doing is nothing to do with domains23:06
m1chaeli'd like a sub domain.mydomain.com resolve to my local home ip address23:06
trailbarhi, i have installed dhcp3-server - how do i find out what service i need to run to start this?23:06
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: just Pointer Speed23:07
ActionParsnipm1chael: yes, that is the thing you register with dydns, you then use that instead of your IP23:07
W4spDanS: So, you have won. Now check with what someone has suggested to put into your conf file, diff it with the file created and modify it. Then cp it to /etc/X11/. chmod/chown it as root.root with 0644.23:07
trailbari can't see an init.d script that would relate to the dhcp23:07
rypervenchem1chael: You'll need a service like no-ip.org and a client like ddclient.23:07
m1chaelbut what if i want to use my own domain?23:07
m1chaeli have access to a name server with an API23:08
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: is it just fast in firefox, or all apps?23:08
bzm1chael: linode?23:08
Debolazm1chael: You can purchase a service for that from DynDNS.23:08
rypervenchem1chael: Same thing.23:08
m1chaelSoftlayer23:08
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: no23:08
ActionParsnipm1chael: the name is the domain, you just port forward through your router to the system hosting the service23:08
DanSThanks.. I'll try that!23:08
m1chaelokay23:08
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/920023:09
ActionParsnipm1chael: i use no-ip for the same thing and access my 2 servers from outside my LAN.23:10
W4spDanS: brb23:11
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exutuxtrailbar: it's called isc-dhcp-server23:14
urist_how complicated is it to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu without messing with my /home partition23:15
ActionParsnipurist_: simple, just select you want to do 'something else' select the /home partition as ext4 but NOT formatted and mount as /home then mark the current system partition as Ext and formatted and mounted as / and leave the swap partition as is23:16
ActionParsnipurist_: its wordy to explain but once you do it, its dead easy23:16
trailbarexutux: cheers23:17
exutuxif just has a separate /home urist_23:17
urist_ActionParsnip, thanks I will give it a try23:17
exutuxtrailbar: np23:17
trailbarok, i am using the netboot file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz and successfully getting my laptop to boot to the menu, but when i press 'install' it just freezes - i want to install from internet, is this the right netboot to use?23:18
trailbar(and if not, what is the correct netboot file to use?)23:18
exutuxtrailbar: but configuration files are in /etc/dhcp/...23:18
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: I dont see any event when I scroll up or down with xev23:18
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: are there any bugs reported?23:19
[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: I dont know23:19
ActionParsnip[PHAMTOM]: worth checking23:19
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[PHAMTOM]ActionParsnip: ermm ok23:20
VlanXsorry guys, but how is it possible that i can never report the correct quantity of used RAM that i have?23:20
exutuxVlanX: paste the output of free -m23:21
Sagenth Anybody know how to fix a problem waking up after sleeping for a few hours. My keyboard is frozen, and my screen is black, nor does the power button initiate a shutdown.23:21
bekksVlanX: The only possibility is, that you do not know about the existence of the "free -m" command.23:21
trailbarcan someone explain how this is netboot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet23:21
W4spDanS: How's it going?23:22
DanSW4ps: Not sure yet.  About to try it.23:22
VlanXbekks: how bout that?  Mem:         15959      15769        18923:22
exutuxVlanX: use pastebin23:23
exutuxand paste all23:23
bekksVlanX: The complete output in a pastebin is important.23:23
exutux!paste | VlanX23:23
ubottuVlanX: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:23
VlanXhttp://pastebin.com/d5A9FLii23:23
VlanXof course i'm not using 15 GB of ram right now23:24
exutuxVlanX: well you're usin 1223MB now23:24
exutux15GB?23:24
OerHeksi see biff_ joining and leaving every 2 minutes for more than one hour.23:24
bekksVlanX: You are - technically. RAM not used by applications will be used for caching, which is good, very goog.23:24
exutuxVlanX: you have to read right...23:24
Artemis3VlanX, there you go, you are using about 15g, but 14 is cached and will be given back to programs if needed.23:24
bekks*good23:24
exutuxVlanX: buffer/cache is right row23:25
ActionParsnipVlanX: you are using 1Gb23:25
Artemis3VlanX, so you are using like 1g or ram only :)23:25
VlanXhow is it possible that i'm just using little over 1GB when i've launched 2 VMs that should take 1GB each?23:25
VlanXif i sum the quantity of ram used by the processes i end up with a greater value23:25
GlennBecksMotherhow do i get size of file?23:25
bekksVlanX: Assigned memory does not equal used memory in terms of virtualization.23:26
exutuxVlanX: you have to learn out how linux uses ram23:26
ActionParsnipVlanX: 15959 - 14735 = 1223 used RAM23:26
ActionParsnip!linuxatemyram23:26
VlanXok, but i told vmware to preallocate the RAM23:26
ActionParsnip!atemyram23:26
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html23:26
SagenthCan anyone help fix a problem waking up after sleeping for a few hours. My keyboard is frozen, and my screen is black, nor does the power button initiate a shutdown.23:26
VlanXso it should cont as used and not available by the actual HW23:26
VlanXam i wrong?23:26
maheanuuThink I gave myself a heck of a prob.....   I was doing cut and copy on a bunch of files on an external drive and cannot find them or the directory with all of the files I had moved.  It was on an external drive and they are not in trash but not showing the directory was *.ebooks*23:27
bekksVlanX: You are wrong.23:27
ActionParsnipVlanX: you are using RAM as cache, itwill be freed if apps are launched23:27
GlennBecksMotherisnt -prof available by default?23:27
exutuxwhats -prof??23:27
Artemis3VlanX, programs can share memory, or perhaps your vms are nicely efficient if they both themselves are using 512m each and have the rest free not claimed from the host os?23:27
VlanXArtemis3: probably, but apparently i can't get the used ram to increase even if i open like twenty tabs of youtube inside each VMs23:29
VlanXso i tought that was weird23:29
DanSW4ps: Can you explain the chmod bit?  Changing it to 0664 comes up invalid mode.  I thought that was just three numbers for permissions?23:29
Artemis3VlanX, just check how much free memory your VMs have right now :)23:29
VlanXso even if i can see that a process is using 1GB of ram, it doesnt mean that it's actually using that much, right?23:30
agentgasmaskGlennBecksMother: to see the size of a file: du -sch23:30
agentgasmaskGlennBecksMother: du -sch <file>23:31
Artemis3VlanX, there is a chance common things in memory are shared among the very same program, in this case VMs.23:31
DanSOh.. nevermind i'm being stupid.23:31
W4spDanS: If it doesnt use chmod 644 /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:32
trailbarhi, is there an existing kickstart service on the internet i can point my netboot to?23:32
trailbarto install ubuntu?23:32
W4spDanS: You need sudo preceeding the commands I gave you.23:32
DanSYeah, i was doing it the other way around.  Just Me being silly.23:32
GlennBecksMotherisnt -prof available by default?23:32
GlennBecksMotherhow do i get size of file?23:32
exutuxGlennBecksMother: agentgasmask said you that23:33
DanSokay.. so with the conf in place.. should i just need to restart for it to take effect?23:33
* exutux thinking what -prof means23:33
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agentgasmaskGlennBecksMother: On the command line, you can use the du command to see how big a file is.23:35
W4spDanS: That's the easiest way. One more thing... If the xorg.conf has flaws X may not come up. If that happens press the SHIFT key during start up and get to the shell. rename the xorg.conf.23:35
agentgasmaskGlennBecksMother: What do you mean by -prof? Are they arguments to a command? like -p -r -o -f? or --prof?23:36
trailbarwher ecan i vie wthe ubuntu images online?23:36
agentgasmasktrailbar: vie?23:37
trailbaragentgasmask: say again?23:37
trailbaragentgasmask: oh, 'view'23:37
Gabrielmx_xAnyone knows how connect to ICQ chat in IRC client?23:38
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agentgasmasktrailbar: ok, what do you mean view? by image do you mean an iso file of the os? or images of ubuntu logo? or... ?23:38
trailbaragentgasmask: i want to view the contents of the iso install cds so i can point my netboot kickstart install to them23:39
OerHeksGabrielmx_x, /join #icq ( if that channel exist ofcourse)23:39
bzgc :<23:39
GlennBecksMotherand the output of du is in kb?23:39
trailbaragentgasmask: at least i'm hoping to, i just want a way to access the contents of the install cds from http so i can use via kickstart (dunno if this is correct or not)23:39
agentgasmasktrailbar: ok, I see. Sorry, I don't know about that.23:39
Gabrielmx_xThanks. But no. I mean. How connect to ICQ server to use ICQ chat. ICQ chat is in IRC, bust i can connect using IRC. Not information at wob.23:40
ActionParsnipGabrielmx_x: you can use pidgin to connect to ICQ23:40
agentgasmaskGlennBecksMother: du -sch <file> is easier, but yes, it's in KB.23:41
fnoyanisihi, how can i check if the kernel has tickless feature enabled? it is 3.2.0-2923:41
fnoyanisiwith 12.0423:41
Gabrielmx_xNo, no, No to ICQ client to talk with frieds. To ICQ Chat. is a IRC chat like this.23:41
DanSW4sp: Everything came up alright. But the thing I was trying didn't seem to work.23:41
Elchzard:}23:42
DanSSo i'm not really even sure if it's using that xorg.conf.23:42
W4spDanS: What has been suggested to you?23:42
DrManhattanI need to make a graphic that gives me a 40hz strobe effect. Where would I go to ask about this23:42
OerHeks!icq23:42
ubottuThe Empathy Instant Messenger is installed by default and supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and  variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete and !pidgin23:42
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OerHeksGabrieleV, ActionParsnip is right.23:42
DanSI'm trying to get a touch screen monitor connected.23:43
W4spDanS: OK, shouldn't be a problem. Where did you get the information from?23:43
Gabrielmx_xYes. Thanks. I knov that. But you are talking a instant messenger ICQ server. I tal about a IRC CHAT. Is not the same. In IM i have my friends. But in ICH IRC Chat is ohter people.23:44
DanSIt connects via serial > usb port.  I was trying this after attempts in a different way failed: http://conan.de/touchscreen/evtouch.html23:44
W4spDanS: evtouch...? Itns't that outdated?23:44
OerHeksDanS, i would try utouch, or seek help in #ubuntu-touch23:45
DanSVery possibly! It's more just what I tried earlier didn't work so I thought I'd try a different technique.23:45
DanSOkay thanks, I'll look that up, and join that channel.  Didn't even think there'd be a specific channel for it.23:46
W4spDanS: Forget evtouch. That's not going to do for you.23:46
DanSAlright.  The monitor here is as old as the hills though.23:46
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VlanXArtemis3: sorry, i'm still not convinced; i've opened like 15 tabs under firefox on a VM, then i made a free -m before and after closing em all and that's the result:  http://pastebin.com/b2p7VeWD23:47
W4spDanS: That doesn't matter because your OS is new. I suggest you circumvent evtouch as far as possible.23:47
wtf-honeyhello23:47
BooGhello23:48
j4gu4r#ubuntu-es23:48
wtf-honeyso whats up?23:48
DanSI shall do just that then.  I'll remove anything I've changed so far then. to keep it clean. Thanks the advice.23:48
BooGI installed the latest ubuntu then installed the flash plug in from the program manager but youtube videos still dont load what am i doing wrong?23:49
exutuxVlanX: BTW you don't need sudo, for free command ...use well sudo23:49
W4spDanS: Very welcome. You 'original' settings are in your home directory, just in case.23:49
exutuxVlanX: so in your VM machines you will use vm ram inside VM23:49
VlanXyeah you're right :)23:50
VlanXexutux: ok, but that would imply that the ram is pre-allocated23:50
exutuxram on your host is just dedicated for each VM23:50
VlanXand i don't see that happening23:50
VlanXif that were the case, i should see 1 GB of ram being occupied straight away when i power up a VM since i've set the VM guest to use up to 1GB23:51
exutuxVlanX: so how much ram do you think uses 15 tab in firefox?? I think that you cannot see it with precision and it's just cached23:52
BooGcould some one please help me to get youtube to work?23:52
VlanXexutux: i've done the same thing on the real HW and the increment was 300megs23:52
maheanuuWhat do I need to do to fine missing files on an external drive?23:53
maheanuufind23:53
maheanuuOr Find and Recover them?23:53
exutuxmaheanuu: foremost23:53
exutuxVlanX: sorry but I cannot find a real issue in there23:54
maheanuuOk, will go to the howto to learn how to run foremost23:54
BooGi have followed ubuntu instructions for flash install but youtube vids dont load?23:55
SRyJohnquestion- just tried linux (ubuntu) for the first time. works perfectly in a VM, no complaints. is there anything i'm missing out on by not having it installed to disk?23:55
VlanXexutux: yeah it's just a cosmetic issue since everything works just fine.. i can see correct ram usage inside each VM but the global memory consumption on the host machine just doesn't change no matter how many VMs i power up and what i do inside them23:56
VlanXwho knows...23:56
exutuxmaheanuu: testdisk too, but foremost is better IMHO23:56
BooGdamn you youtube23:58
gothhi23:58
gothhow do I enable hw acceleration for flash?23:58
gothsomehow my flash is extremely buggy23:58
BooGgoth can u watch youtube vids?23:58
gothiirc I changed those settings a long time ago to fix an issue with colors23:58
maheanuuexutux, I am reading the how to on it now, and can I make the recovery in a clean external disk rather on my little system drive in the notebook I am on?23:58
gothbut flash is extremely buggy now23:58
gothit regularly forces me to reboot the computer23:59
gothis there no replacement for flash?23:59
BooGflash installed for me but it wont even load youtube23:59
gothin any case: how do I enable hw acceleration?23:59
gothit loads all just fine23:59
BooGim trying to find that out also23:59
exutuxmaheanuu: yeah but you need more space23:59
gothyou have a different issue23:59
BooGmine does not fin load ahh23:59
maheanuuwhat distro are you running23:59

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