[00:00] <minimec> amr_: So you would have something in /media. What is the exact name of that partition?
[00:01] <amr_> minimec: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C
[00:02] <blake_> Can I make one an icon in Unity that shows cpu usage, or on the top bar? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[00:02] <minimec> amr_: I guess it would be better to do that once manually and add you config and mountpoint to /etc/fstab. Like that it will be the same on every boot. But it might work your way too.
[00:02] <blake_> How do I show cpu usage, network, etc on the dash?
[00:02] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Is this live USB persistent? If not, minimec's fstab advice won't work.
[00:03] <trism> blake_: for the top panel (indicators) there is indicator-multiload
[00:03] <digitig> arrrghhh: is that -t nfs instead of -t nfs4?
[00:04] <blake_> trism thanks it's called "System Load Indicator" in Software Center.
[00:04] <amr_> it's persistent but I am putting the swap file on my main hard not my flash dirve
[00:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, i believe so 1 sec
[00:05] <digitig> arrrghhh: if it is, it still times out.
[00:05] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Yeah. Just making sure before you were editing settings on the USB. If it wasn't, you'd lose it after a reboot.
[00:05] <arrrghhh> digitig, if that showmount command fails, you haven't setup NFS
[00:05] <arrrghhh> digitig, http://www.virtues.it/2010/03/config-nfs-nas/
[00:05] <minimec> amr_: Let's create that file: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap bs=1M count=6144
[00:05] <trism> blake_: noted
[00:06] <minimec> amr_: That should create a swap file on your win7 partition.
[00:07] <amr_> minimec: I run the command
[00:08] <amr_> minimec: just blinking
[00:08] <minimec> amr_: It takes time....
[00:09] <arrrghhh> digitig, y'know what i mean?  have you configured NFS on the iomega doohickey?
[00:09] <amr_> minimec: 1M count=6144 6144+0 records in 6144+0 records out 6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 126.436 s, 51.0 MB/s
[00:10] <amr_> here is the result but when I write free I got 0 swap
[00:10] <minimec> amr_: Good ;)
[00:10] <amr_> shall I restart now?
[00:10] <minimec> amr_: Now we give it the correct permissions: sudo chmod 600 /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:11] <amr_> done
[00:11] <minimec> amr_: Then we define it as swap: sudo mkswap /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:11] <minimec> amr_: Finally we activate it: sudo swapon /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:12] <amr_> blinking
[00:13] <amr_> done
[00:13] <amr_> yes
[00:13] <amr_> now can I hibernate?
[00:13] <amr_> thanks a lot
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: So you should see that swap space in the system monitor. Check that now.
[00:14] <W4sp> blake_: Did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745568. Apart from the WebUpD8 it seems to be what you are looking for?
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: gnome-system-monitor
[00:14] <jhvcygd> .
[00:14] <amr_> yes it's there
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: Nice ;)
[00:15] <amr_> minimec: and it's okay in the free command too, now can I hibernate?
[00:16] <minimec> amr_: you should find the hibernate option in the panel in the menu on the right sie on your screen.
[00:16] <audstanley> hello all
[00:17] <amr_> minimec: no it's not there
[00:17] <amr_> minimec: log out : suspend : shut down
[00:17] <amr_> no hibernate
[00:18] <minimec> amr_: You're right... Hmmm. I use another windows manager (enlightenment e17). So I don't have that panel right now...
[00:19] <minimec> amr_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[00:19] <blake_> w4sp package 'indicator-sensors' and 'indicator-multiload' is exactly what I needed.
[00:19] <arrrghhh> lol i was just going to linkg http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/pm-action.8.html minimec
[00:19] <W4sp> blake_: well then. :-)
[00:19] <blake_> w4sp but THANKS!!
[00:20] <amr_> minimec: I am downloading something via software center right now, can I test the hibernate now?
[00:20] <dok42> Hey, does anyone have expirience with GLX not working on Intel graphics?
[00:20] <minimec> amr_: DOn't think so ... ;)
[00:20] <minimec> amr_: My idea now is, to make that working on every boot. KatsumeBlisk was right, that you need some persistent space on your USB stick for that. We would need to modify /etc/fstab.
[00:21] <IPm4n> Test
[00:21] <mininessie> what would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what
[00:21] <minimec> amr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 0
[00:22] <minimec> amr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:23] <mininessie> i asked a qustion
[00:23] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Are your CPUs at 100% when doing that?
[00:23] <KatsumeBlisk> !patience | mininessie
[00:23] <Kurbster> is there a way to track down what ubuntu did to a certain package to get it to work properly.  I am having a problem with bluetooth and the device class not being set correctly.  However, every other distro but Kubuntu has it fixed
[00:23] <amr_> minimec: how to do this (step bhy step) please
[00:23] <minimec> amr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:23] <minimec> amr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 0
[00:24] <brophat> during the latest kernel update today I got an error msg that dealing with the rt3090 driver it messed up do I want to send an error report blah blah. I got the same msg when i upgraded to 12.04. but everything seems to be working ok. should I just blow it off?
[00:24] <amr_> minimec: as last line?
[00:24] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: yes
[00:24] <minimec> amr_: That should do.
[00:24] <amr_> done
[00:24] <arrrghhh> yar
[00:24] <minimec> amr_: Will be right back. Getting myself a cigarette
[00:25] <amr_> minimec: sure thank you so far so much
[00:25] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Make sure you save that file. :) Theoretically now it'll work with every boot. Wait until minimec comes back to test though. ;)
[00:25] <W4sp> Kurbster: In /var/log are log files dpkg.log. Please note that these logs rotate and you will find archives of old ones too.
[00:26] <thriveth> Hi channel - this may be a silly question, but I've googled and searched and found nothing. I'm trying to transfer a file via bluetooth from my phone to my Ubuntu laptop. Both phone and laptop say the transfer is going on, and when it ends, the Ubuntu tells me the file has been succesfully received, but it is nowhere to be found. Where is it?
[00:26] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've not gone away -- googling stuff...
[00:27] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry was that guide no bueno?  where you at?
[00:27] <W4sp> thriveth: Did you check the usual suspects, such as Downloads, your Desktop?
[00:29] <thriveth> W4sp, yes but I found it through a file search, it was in the "Public folder even though I'd specifically set it to go in Downloads folder. Oh, well. Sorry for false alarm.
[00:29] <pf> hola
[00:29] <arrrghhh> !es | pf
[00:30] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've enabled NFS on the NAS (boy, did they bury the information on *that* deep in the manual! And the instructions to get to the setting were wrong). It's still not working, but I'm going to go through the steps I've already tried, to see if they work better now the drive understands NAS.
[00:30] <mininessie> what would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what
[00:31] <arrrghhh> digitig, ok.  that showmount command is a good one to test it out with.
[00:31] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Is your CPU running at 100%? I didn't get an answer when I asked you.
[00:31] <W4sp> thriveth: That's anything else but a suitable location though.
[00:31] <Kurbster> W4sp: does this log file tell what patches are applied?  I don't have an active ubuntu installation, but I've been using a kubuntu livecd for testing purposes
[00:31] <arrrghhh> mininessie, you'll have to monitor it.  it's either processor or hard drive i would guess.
[00:31] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Also, how's your RAM when running those?
[00:31] <rustler770> Has anyone been able to listen to radio using rhythmbox?
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: It's not that uncommon when you have that much open. Minecraft is a big resource hog.
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: I haven't done it with Rhythmbox, but I use RadioTray. Great program.
[00:32] <rustler770> I'll have to try it
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: It's an indicator applet, but it enables listening to radio streams. You'll have to find the URLs for your radio stations.
[00:33] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: A quick google should do it. It wasn't hard to find the last time I looked.
[00:33] <dylan> I have that red caution triangle at the top of my screen, however when I check for updates, there are none available.
[00:33] <W4sp> Kurbster: It tells you when it has updated, yes.
[00:34] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: of total memory 68%
[00:34] <arrrghhh> dylan, how are you checking for updates?  can you run this in the terminal?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[00:34] <rustler770> KatsumBlisk: I'll check it out, rhythmbox appears to be broken  for radio.
[00:34] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: How's the CPU?
[00:34] <thriveth> W4sp, which one do you mean, Public?
[00:35] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: idk how to check that
[00:35] <W4sp> Kurbster: Not sure about Kubuntu though. They have their own channel. #kubuntu
[00:35] <minimec> amr_: re
[00:35] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: What DE are you using?
[00:35] <dylan> arrrghhh: here is the result, the errors are towards the end
[00:35] <dylan> arrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jGmLmLR6
[00:36] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: KDE
[00:36] <arrrghhh> dylan, in the terminal again, can you 'ping ppa.launchpad.net' ?
[00:36] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: There should be a system monitor program in either system or utilities in the menu.
[00:37] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I haven't used KDE in a while, so I don't remember the exact location.
[00:37] <dylan> the ping requests are coming through
[00:37] <Kubuntu_terryg> hi
[00:38] <arrrghhh> dylan, ok ctrl-c to cancel it
[00:38] <Kubuntu_terryg> Anybody using vsftp with virtual users?
[00:38] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings
[00:39] <arrrghhh> dylan, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: its jumping all over the place but is never under 30 and its about 80 percent
[00:39] <Budric> Hi, can someone tell me how I can fake exit code of 0 from a program?  I'm trying to write an upstart job, and "killall process" command fails because process is not running, but that's ok I don't care it's just cleanup and I want it to continue, unfortunately upstart stops there.  This is even with "normal exit 0 1" specified.
[00:39] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I'd say that with all three running it's too much for your system.
[00:39] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Graphics may have something to do with this too. Minecraft is a heavy game because it renders all the blocks.
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: so what would i need to make sure it can handle all of this stuff
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: i have an nvidia 560 ti
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I don't really think there's anything you can do.
[00:40] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: You said you're updating while spotify and MC right?
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: The update may be doing it. I'd wait until it's done.
[00:40] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: i am actually on arch lol
[00:41] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Just chose a popular channel, eh? :P So what's your computer running/doing again?
[00:41] <arrrghhh> mininessie, there is #archlinux...
[00:42] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?
[00:42] <KatsumeBlisk> arrrghhh: You made him leave. :P
[00:42] <dylan> arrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jpcRmkhD
[00:42] <digitig> arrrghhh: Still not connecting, but I think we have progress. showmount -e gives me:
[00:42] <digitig>  showmount -e 192.168.0.16
[00:42] <digitig> Export list for 192.168.0.16:
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Eva            *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim            *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Jane           *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/David          *
[00:42] <FloodBot1> digitig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <dylan> digitig: use pastebin for multilines
[00:43] <dylan> he appears to have been shadow banned
[00:43] <arrrghhh> digitig, dude pastebin
[00:43] <dylan> thats what mode q is right...?
[00:44] <dylan> yep
[00:44] <arrrghhh> dylan, i think his voice has been removed
[00:44] <KatsumeBlisk> dylan: I think he's muted. It lasts for about a min I think
[00:44] <arrrghhh> yea that's the one
[00:44] <KatsumeBlisk> dylan: He'll come back.
[00:44] <dylan> arrrghhh: thats what a shadow ban is
[00:44] <digitig> dylan: sorry -- rarely use ICQ so don't know about things like pastebin.
[00:44] <arrrghhh> shadow ban lol
[00:44] <arrrghhh> digitig, you've been using it so well :P
[00:44] <dylan> digitig: it's cool
[00:44] <acyed> hello everyone
[00:44] <dylan> arrrghhh: shadow ban looks like your typing and submitting, but no-one else sees it
[00:45] <arrrghhh> yes.  we've all described the same thing using different words...
[00:45] <arrrghhh> dylan, it's probably something in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[00:46] <dylan> I shall go check
[00:46] <arrrghhh> er /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:46] <dylan> what am I looking for?
[00:46] <arrrghhh> do you have some custom ppa's in thar?
[00:46] <blake_> Alt + Click is the only reason I use Linux and X11 =)
[00:46] <dylan> let me post the ls output
[00:47] <dylan> arrrghhh:google-chrome.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list.save  webupd8team-java-precise.list
[00:47] <arrrghhh> dylan, can you rename all of them to see if it fixes the issue?
[00:47] <acyed> I have a toshiba 1tb hard drive that is detected by ubuntu and mounted, but does not show the stuff contained on the drive. when i opened gparted, it shows one fat32, 200 mb with efi label, one unknown partition and one unallocated
[00:47] <acyed> has anyone seen this before?
[00:48] <dylan> acyed: this has happened to me before,
[00:48] <dylan> acyed: I can't remember what I did though
[00:48] <acyed> ah, but you did get it to work?
[00:48] <SnapSnap> How do I move my OpenPGP secret key from one computer to another. Both run 12.04 and use Seahorse as a front end.
[00:49] <dylan> acyed: not sure... can you see the files when you access it via command line, like with ls?
[00:49] <dylan> did you try cntrl-H to see if they were hidden somehow?
[00:49] <acyed> dylan: let me check
[00:49] <HelloWorld321> !libre
[00:50] <Budric> anyone know how to run a script and have exit status be forced to 0?
[00:50] <studio> how can i store a command output as a log?
[00:50] <dylan> Budic: why do you want to force exit status to be zero?
[00:50] <Budric> studio: command >> logfile?
[00:51] <Budric> dylan: upstart is failing because "killall someprocess" returns 1 when process isn't running.  It's a cleanup command and I don't care that it's failing
[00:51] <dylan> studio: just append ">> filename" to the end of the file
[00:51] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:51] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?
[00:51] <dylan> Budric, just use -m, i think that is force-kill
[00:51] <dylan> i.e. I dont care if you fail, just do it
[00:52] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?
[00:52] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I have keys on both computers. If I merge the folders will it preserve all keys?
[00:52] <studio> Budric:i want to execute a command and then the output store it to a txt file
[00:52]  * W4sp_ thinks the lag time today is incredible.
[00:53] <dylan> studio: just append ">> filename.txt" to the end
[00:53] <studio> ok
[00:53] <Budric> dylan: -m isn't an option on ubuntu.  looking at man I don't see anything that will work
[00:53] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: Don't!
[00:53] <dylan> hmmm
[00:53] <dylan> do you have to use killall? you could use pkill or something else
[00:53] <dylan> pastebin the script
[00:53] <dylan> let me take a crack
[00:54] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I'm going to backup both folders, then try to copy the one over to the otehr
[00:54] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: It will overwrite. I need to know if you have different private keys for the same email address(es).
[00:54] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: Don't do that. It will not work.
[00:54] <acyed> dylan: nope, I cant access the drive with mount
[00:54] <Budric> http://pastebin.com/nMjBBSNe
[00:54] <dylan> hmmmm
[00:54] <Budric> thanks
[00:55] <acyed> dylan: correction, I can mount it
[00:56] <studio> Budric: doesnt work.. :S
[00:56] <Budric> studio, which part?  "command >> filename" doesn't work?
[00:56] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I had an old key associated with an e-mail address. I quit using that computer so I set up a new key for the same e-mail address on the new computer. Now I'd like to get the original key onto the new computer. I don't care if the new key is preserved.
[00:57] <studio> Budric: yeap
[00:57] <digitig> arrrghhh: Nope. Still timing out. My command line is sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 192.168.0.6 :/ /nfs (or /Tim at the end, or /mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim)
[00:58] <Budric> studio: try command &> filename  that redirects stderr and stdout
[00:59] <arrrghhh> digitig, 1 sec.  that command seems unnecessarily complex.
[00:59] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: If I get that one right all you would need to do is to use your old key rings, revoke your old but valid key and create a new one. Your old private key should be preserved. Once you have done that you can copy it over to the other machine. I strongly suggest to make a backup of both key rings for secure and public keys.
[00:59] <arrrghhh> digitig, did you pastebin the output of that show command?
[01:00] <arrrghhh> digitig, lets make it really simple.  mount 192.168.0.100:/files /blahasdf/files
[01:00] <arrrghhh> you'll probably need at least the -t nfsv4
[01:00] <arrrghhh> just try nfs first actually
[01:01] <studio> Budric: thanks it works yeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihh
[01:02] <digitig> arrrghhh: Do I just give you the URL? http://pastebin.com/vNCqQmWx
[01:03] <gypseh> hey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?
[01:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, excellent.  now try this mount command.  "sudo mount 192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /media/tim"
[01:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, you might need to adjust the /media/tim side to whatever you have in Ubuntu
[01:05] <xcervo> hello guys, an1 here uses gg client with ubuntu?
[01:05] <OerHeks> gypseh, i found that disable IPv6 is saving 9 sec boottime
[01:07] <digitig> arrrghhh: And we have victory! Now presumably I put that in my /etc/fstab before I forget it! Many thanks.
[01:08] <arrrghhh> digitig, lol not quite.  let me help you with that :)
[01:09] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry trying to find the exact command i used on mine
[01:09] <vaks> anyone know how to change the bootloader screen?
[01:09] <niriven> where is /etc/xorg.conf.d?
[01:10] <KatsumeBlisk> No one pinged me right? I was afk
[01:10] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: at /etc/xorg.conf.d
[01:10] <niriven> * /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:10] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: open a terminal
[01:10] <niriven> KatsumeBlisk: ... first off, i know what a path is, secondly, it does not exist on ubuntu.
[01:10] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: And "cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[01:11] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: Well, you DID ask where a path is. I'm not psychic.
[01:11] <arrrghhh> digitig, try this.  192.168.0.16::/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:11] <arrrghhh> digitig, now i recall adding some lines to increase the speed of the NFS mount
[01:11] <digitig> arrrghhh: Well, I've just encountered a new problem. When I try to open a shell I get an error "getpt failed. No such file or directory".
[01:11] <niriven> ok i am trying to set a file that normally exists on most distros in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. this folder doe snot exist on ubuntu, where is it?
[01:11] <WeThePeople> what is the command to check video ram
[01:12] <arrrghhh> digitig, uhhh?  how are you trying to open a shell?
[01:12] <W4sp> niriven: :-) You can find xorg.conf in /etc/X11. It's not needed unless it is. ;-) You may need to create one yourself.
[01:12] <digitig> arrrghhh: <ctrl> <alt> T
[01:12] <niriven> W4sp: not what i am looking for though.... looking for xorg.conf.d, a folder.
[01:12] <arrrghhh> digitig, that's odd.  i'll have to google that one.
[01:12] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: You may need to make it.
[01:13] <arrrghhh> i have a bit of experience with NFS.  this is a new one :P
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> niriven, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:13] <niriven> gr33n7007h: thank you!
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> np
[01:13] <arrrghhh> digitig, i see people talking about fstab.  did you try to edit it already?
[01:13] <niriven> gr33n7007h: acutally it is not there either
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, what ubuntu?
[01:14] <niriven> gr33n7007h: yes sir
[01:14] <SnapSnap> W4sp: Turns out seahorse has an option to export an your entire key. Thanks for your help.
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, which version
[01:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there a standard way to customize an installation and replicate it on multiple machines? I mean, something like kickstart, but I also need to include some files that need to be installed after it's done.
[01:14] <niriven> gr33n7007h: 12.04
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, 1 sec
[01:15] <digitig> arrrghhh: No, not yet. I've had a routine package update running in the background, that's all. It's asking for a reboot, so I suppose I could let it have one. Back soon...
[01:15] <W4sp> niriven:  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:16] <niriven> gr33n7007h: ah well guess i shoul dhave done: ls -R / | grep xorg.conf.d, found it
[01:16] <Budric> found a solution to my problem; killall process || echo 1 > /dev/null
[01:16] <niriven> W4sp: gr33n7007h thanks much appreicated
[01:17] <Xympa> So doesna nyone know a good guitar fx processor besides rakarrack?
[01:17] <gr33n7007h> niriven, where was it /usr/lib/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[01:18] <niriven> gr33n7007h: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:18] <gr33n7007h> niriven, ah, ok
[01:18] <niriven> gr33n7007h: guess i should have ls -R'ed it :)
[01:19] <someguy> I am having trouble getting an ATI 7970 to run 3 monitors in ubuntu 12.04.  Is it not capable of this?  I have been googling with no luck
[01:19] <gr33n7007h> niriven, or: locate xorg.conf.d
[01:20] <KatsumeBlisk> someguy: I'm no expert, but that's a really new card. Support might not be available yet.
[01:20] <someguy> KatsumeBlisk: 8^(
[01:21] <KatsumeBlisk> someguy: I don't know much about GPUs, so I could be wrong. I'm just saying that's a possibility.
[01:21] <Xympa> Are you running the proprietary drivers?
[01:22] <someguy> I installed the proprietary fglrx drivers, and can get 2 monitors configured in catalyst but it will not see my third monitor
[01:22] <icequeen> Hey, I set up a 16 GB linux-swap partition on my hard drive, but I still can't Hibernate. Do I need to do something to "connect" the Ubuntu partition to the swap partition?
[01:22] <Xympa> That's weird...
[01:23] <Xympa> If catalyst won't show it, then I guess there's nothing I can help you with...
[01:23] <digitig> arrrghhh: Ok, I'm back, and the reboot has fixed the terminal problem. Now, I'm planning to put the mount point in a more sensible place: /media/tim, probably. Is it /etc/fstab I should be editing, and what should I put in there?
[01:23] <someguy> Xympa: the fglrx (post-release updates) wouldn't install for me <shrug>  think that might help if I can get it to install?
[01:23] <arrrghhh> icequeen, do you see it in 'free -m'
[01:23] <usr13> digitig: What is on this mount point?
[01:24] <arrrghhh> digitig, ok.  this will get you started for fstab
[01:24] <arrrghhh> digitig, try this.  192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:24] <usr13> digitig: Think of something that will be descriptic.  If it's Music, or Pictures, say so?
[01:24] <arrrghhh> usr13, i got this ;)
[01:24] <icequeen> arrrghhh I created the linux-swap partition in GParted
[01:25] <arrrghhh> icequeen, did you see the command i sent?  do you see a line at the end 'Swap:'?
[01:25] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry change /mntpoint to /media/tim or whatever.
[01:25] <arrrghhh> digitig, if you find it slow, i can try to help with that... once you finish editing fstab you do sudo mount -a to process it
[01:27] <icequeen> arrrghhh ok I tried it. Swap: 0 0 0 shows up =\
[01:27] <usr13> arrrghhh: or just mount /media/tim
[01:27] <vaks> How do I change the bootloader screen in ubuntu?  I want windows to be on the top of the list and I want to change the background color obv
[01:27] <arrrghhh> icequeen, total is 0?  then it's not on
[01:27] <arrrghhh> usr13, he needs it in fstab ;)
[01:28] <arrrghhh> we've already mounted it manually....
[01:29] <arrrghhh> icequeen, there's this swapon command.  do you know where the swap space was created?
[01:29] <gr33n7007h> vaks, do you want to add a wallpaper to grub a start?
[01:31] <icequeen> arrrghhh http://i.imgur.com/Jl7Mb.png
[01:33] <usr13> arrrghhh: mount /media/tim would be to test the fstab entry for it.  (Just an alternative that does not require sudo)
[01:33] <arrrghhh> icequeen, in a terminal "sudo swapon -f /dev/sdb1"... i think
[01:33] <arrrghhh> usr13, oic.  i just use mount -a.  meh.
[01:34] <usr13> arrrghhh: you mean sudo mount -a
[01:34] <arrrghhh> yes.
[01:34] <arrrghhh> do you come in here to nitpick?  lol
[01:34] <usr13> arrrghhh: No, to help.
[01:34] <arrrghhh> k
[01:34] <icequeen> I think that worked! thanks arrrghhh
[01:35] <icequeen> <3
[01:35] <icequeen> usr13 what's the difference? I've only been using ubuntu 3 days
[01:35] <arrrghhh> icequeen, you're welcome.  :)  you want to add an entry to fstab.
[01:35] <icequeen> arrghhh how do I add an entry?
[01:35] <digitig> arrrghhh: That works fine, thanks. I've given each member of the family some space on the NAS to use as they like, and 'tim' is mine, so the name is descriptive enough. It seems quick enough on single files, but I don't know how it will be when I start shifting serious amounts of data (Windows took 3 days to move my son's photographs onto the drive)
[01:35] <arrrghhh> icequeen, we were talking about another issue.  my command processes all of fstab, and usr13's didn't.
[01:35] <icequeen> usr13 nvm I re-read what you wrote
[01:36] <arrrghhh> digitig, nfs is MUCH more efficient than samba/cifs...
[01:36] <arrrghhh> which is what windows is using ;)
[01:36] <icequeen> arrrghhh so I don't need to do anything else? or do I?
[01:36] <arrrghhh> icequeen, i imagine you always want to use this for swap space?
[01:36] <arrrghhh> if you reboot you'll have to do that again
[01:37] <usr13> icequeen: sudo mount -a   is an admin command to mount all mount points.  It looks at the fstab file and mounts all that it sees.   mount /media/tim  will just mount that one mount point, (but only if the fstab entry is correct).
[01:38] <arrrghhh> icequeen, if we want to do this the right way we'll need the UUID.  1 sec.
[01:38] <icequeen> Ok
[01:38] <arrrghhh> icequeen,  ls -laH /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[01:39] <gr33n7007h> icequeen, or just use blkid
[01:39] <usr13> sudo blkid /dev/sdx   will show what uuid of sdx
[01:39] <arrrghhh> oops i guess the h doesn't need caps.  please tell me jargon in teal is before ../../sdb1
[01:40] <arrrghhh> o sorry
[01:40] <usr13> arrrghhh: And yes, using the uuid will be a lot better.
[01:40] <arrrghhh> hah, that's a much better way
[01:40] <arrrghhh> to find the uuid i mean
[01:40] <arrrghhh> i always did that ls command... heh
[01:40] <usr13> arrrghhh: That way works too.
[01:40] <arrrghhh> indeed.  blkid is probably easier in this case.  thanks.
[01:41] <cr1st0> i installed ubuntu dual boot with windows it completed the install rebooted and doesnt do nothing now
[01:41] <arrrghhh> gr33n7007h, thank you.  i learn somethin new every day :)
[01:41] <usr13> cr1st0: It won't boot?
[01:41] <cr1st0> i chosed the 50/50 install it asks lunch startup repair or start windows normaly
[01:41] <gr33n7007h> arrrghhh, lol
[01:41] <usr13> what is a 50/50 install?
[01:42] <cr1st0> half ubuntu half windows 7
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: Oh, you mean dual boot?
[01:42] <digitig> arrrghhh: in /etc/fstab, do I just put single quotes around that share name that has the space in it? '192.168.0.16:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Shared Storage' /media/tim nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:42] <cr1st0> yes
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: Sounds like you failed to tell grub to write to MBR of the primary drive.
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:43] <usr13> cr1st0: but it can be fixed ^^^
[01:43] <arrrghhh> digitig, oh shares with spaces...
[01:43] <gypseh> hey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?
[01:43] <arrrghhh> i think you have do do something really strange... 1 sec.  you have to "escape" the space if you will
[01:44] <usr13> \
[01:44] <arrrghhh> usr13, isn't it like \040 or something
[01:44] <arrrghhh> in fstab ^^
[01:44] <usr13> before the space, (but I don't know what your talking about really....
[01:44] <icequeen> gr33n7007h what is the blkid command?
[01:45] <digitig> arrrghhh: the drive came preconfigured with the share name with the space :(
[01:45] <usr13> arrrghhh: Did he use a mount point directory name with a space in it?
[01:45] <usr13> arrrghhh: If so, why?
[01:45] <arrrghhh> usr13, he just said why...
[01:46] <usr13> digitig: Why not just cahnge it?
[01:46] <usr13> *change
[01:46] <arrrghhh> usr13, you can escape spaces in fstab
[01:46] <arrrghhh> digitig, 1 sec..
[01:46] <usr13> To tell the truth, I don't know....
[01:46] <arrrghhh> usr13, i've done it
[01:46] <usr13> I just dont do it.
[01:46] <usr13> Ok
[01:47] <usr13> digitig: What is the name?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> i don't like to do it
[01:47] <usr13> What's the name?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> iomega storcenter ix2 nfs
[01:47] <arrrghhh> er
[01:47] <arrrghhh> minus the nfs
[01:47] <usr13> iomega\ storcenter\ ix2\ nfs
[01:47] <infidel> anyone know anything about sfs clustering filesystem?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> no
[01:48] <usr13> But you probably have to use quotes or something, I dono....
[01:48] <arrrghhh> \040
[01:48] <digitig> usr13: the drive came preconfigured with that share, and it's tricky to work out how to fix it. I think I will, though -- I can access the share from a Windows machine so I can move everything in it to a share with a more sensible name.
[01:48] <arrrghhh> digitig, so in lieu of a space, literally put \040
[01:48] <arrrghhh> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/fstab-space-in-mount-point-directory-names-846362/
[01:48] <usr13> Just change it to iomega-storcenter-ix2-nfs  Or iomega-nfs
[01:49] <arrrghhh> lol
[01:49] <arrrghhh> digitig, it will work.  don't sweat it.
[01:49] <arrrghhh> usr13, he's already setup a bunch of other clients from the sound of it
[01:49] <usr13> Oh,ok
[01:50] <usr13> Just seems to be such a messy way to do it but... oh well.
[01:50] <arrrghhh> it's not pretty, but it works.  and you only have to setup fstab once hopefull.
[01:50] <arrrghhh> y*
[01:51] <Ycarene> I installed the qtmobility dev package but a program that I'm trying to compile can't find any of the header files.  The files are there and it works if I link to them individually but I'd rather just have it find them where they're at.
[01:52] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've set up three Windows clients, but no biggie if I need to remap one network drive on each of them. Anyway, yes it works so I don't need to do anything. It's denying me access to /mnt/ext/USB_WD_My_Book_a_1, but that's yet another drive piggy-backing on the iomega NAS, so I suspect that's settings within the iomega NAS configuration.
[01:53] <arrrghhh> digitig, i would agree.  glad it's working :)
[01:54] <cr1st0> seems to be solved :)
[01:54] <Candlehawk> Hello, I have an issue.
[01:54] <pyoor> Hi all.  Has anyone had any luck getting the Novatel 551L (4G) aircard working in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <Candlehawk> Unity is glitchy with my dual screens.
[01:55] <Candlehawk> The GUI is showing up on both windows, and some of the graphics are not showing up
[01:56] <cr1st0> what's the diference between xfce session and xubuntu session?
[01:56] <Candlehawk> cr1st0: Default xfce as opposed to xfce as configured for default xubuntu
[01:57] <CyCreeper> I Love Ubuntu and I love Linux just wanted to say that lol :D
[01:58] <Candlehawk> THe forum post with my issue is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162740#post12162740
[01:59] <aartist> I am using vncviewer  to see windows computer from ubutnu. Can I make the vncviewer size bigger?
[02:00] <infidel> are you using command line?
[02:00] <aartist> infidel: yes.
[02:01] <gr33n7007h> aartist, vncviewer -fullscreen ip port might work
[02:02] <digitig> arrrghhh: I'm glad its working too :) Many thanks for the help. I don't know why the external drive is denying access, but I'll try the iomega forum for that. Worst comes to the worst I can plug that one directly into the machine. I don't need that one on the network.
[02:02] <Candlehawk> Can nobody help me with this issue?
[02:02] <arrrghhh> digitig, alrighty.  take it easy ;)
[02:04] <mug> hello
[02:04] <mug> does anyone know how to install java for Chrome?
[02:05] <vaks> so my laptop battery life is waaaay less in ubuntu then it is in windows
[02:05] <aartist> gr33n7007h: I tried fullscreen option as you suggested. It hides every other window.  and I cannot use my keyboard on the screen anymore.
[02:06] <mug> vaks: try dimming the screen and changing the power settings to power saver
[02:07] <hoover_damm> is it possible to boot via PXE and configure the interface statically with Ubuntu? my Preseed currently hardcodes the network configuration as well as my kernel command line
[02:07] <hoover_damm> I also disable dhcp on the command line
[02:07] <hoover_damm> and yet it's still dhcp
[02:07] <gr33n7007h> aartist, hey?
[02:08] <usr13> aartist: You could change screensize
[02:08] <usr13> aartist: ... to match the screensize on the other PC
[02:09] <mug> .....
[02:10] <mug> ummm....
[02:10] <mug> a little help?
[02:11] <aartist> usr13: '...' ? there is no screensize option.
[02:11] <TrollingForSoup> Mug, what do you need help with?
[02:11] <mug> How do i install Java for Google chrome?
[02:12] <usr13> aartist: What do you mean there is no screensize option?
[02:12] <blarson> Is there any possibility of restoring files from an ext4 partition that was just reformatted?
[02:13] <aartist> usr13: with vnc viewer there is no screensize option.
[02:13] <mug> aartist: system settings then Displays
[02:13] <gr33n7007h> aartist, usr13 means change the actual screen resolution
[02:13] <aartist> gr33n7007h: ubuntu or windows?  Windows has max 1024x768
[02:13] <KatsumeBlisk> blarson: I'm not sure about the process, but I'd say it's possible.
[02:14] <mug> this is an Ubuntu help chat
[02:14] <gr33n7007h> aartist, ubuntu
[02:14] <KatsumeBlisk> blarson: Formatting means that the drive is writable again, but not necessarily wiped. THat's why you 0 out HDs when doing it securely.
[02:14] <arand> blarson: probably not, you might be able to extract a few bits and pieces using recovery tools like photorec or so...
[02:16] <usr13> aartist: Change either one you want to.
[02:16] <aartist> that works.., as it should. but I cannot use my keyboard.
[02:16] <wallnuts> Hi I've been trying to start another X windows/LXDE session on tty8 for a few days and can't seem to get it.  I got a shell on tty8 but I can't seem to start X, when I try X :1 i get and erro mesg saying display 0 is in use.  Does any one have any pointers?
[02:17] <mug> aartist: lol
[02:17] <mug> TrollingForSoup: hows it going?
[02:18] <ejv> hi guys, i have some rules im putting in /etc/resolv.conf but every reboot, they get wiped out, where's the proper place to put them?
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having some trouble reinstalling all installed packages. I'm trying this - dpkg --get-selections > pkg.txt && dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt && sudo apt-get -y dselect-upgrade
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> and it just ends up running the standard 'upgrade' dialog and saying there's nothing to do
[02:18] <TrollingForSoup> It's going well.
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> any ideas? I'm having issues with various things since switching back to xubuntu from ubuntu (I went xubuntu -> ubuntu -> xubuntu)
[02:18] <TrollingForSoup> Just ordered a "new" laptop.
[02:19] <jrib> wallnuts: startx -- :1
[02:19] <mug> TrollingForSoup: no i mean on trying to find how to install java?
[02:19] <aartist> BTW, I love ubutnu.
[02:19] <TrollingForSoup> mug, Just install Java in general, it should work in Chrome.
[02:19] <TrollingForSoup> Though I do recommend you switch to Firefox.
[02:20] <mug> ok!
[02:20] <aartist> What would the ftp solution from WinXP to Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> wallnuts: you can configure gdm to start another session for you
[02:20] <TrollingForSoup> So, other than Ubuntu, what distros should I put on my thinkpad once it arrives?
[02:20] <aartist> TrollingForSoup: mint?
[02:20] <TrollingForSoup> Meh, that's not much different.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> I'd prefer something outside of Ubuntu/Mint/Debian
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Yes, I know this is #Ubuntu
[02:21] <Shirakawasuna> archlinux
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> \I just want ideas for other distros to mess around with.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Alright, I suppose I can try that aagain.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Something seems to go wrong with every install :/
[02:21] <gbear14275> anyone want to talk the merits/failures of better ubuntu support integration... including the possibility of crowd support bounties?  My mind is racing on the idea -->  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <wallnuts> jrib That gives me a screen flash, but goes back to the shell, errors are vesa : ignoring device with bound kernel driver
[02:23] <TrollingForSoup> I'll have a 32GB SSD, so
[02:23] <TrollingForSoup> I can probably have 4 distros max, and have breathing room.
[02:23] <wallnuts> xinit: connection to X server lost
[02:26] <jrib> wallnuts: anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.1.log?  If you stop your login manager (and all X instances) can you startx without error successfully?
[02:28] <ejv> you must have a lot of time on your hands to use more than one OS
[02:30] <noob|2> does anyone have any good tips for setting up ubuntu?
[02:30] <root__> haha
[02:32] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[02:34] <docvell> QUESTION: Does anyone know where I can find the M.E.S.S. emulator for Ubuntu?  I don't need the rom images just the program (and a front end if possible)
[02:35] <wallnuts> jrib nothing jumps out on the log other than it's trying to use VT9 when I go to tty9 I'm getting two openvt errors....  openvt: exec failled: no such file or dir  and openvt: exec failed : permission denied I am running a sudo on the startx -- :1
[02:36] <jrib> wallnuts: no sudo
[02:36] <jrib> wallnuts: and umm are you sure it's not an issue with your xinitrc?
[02:37] <wallnuts> jrib same error with or without sudo where can I change it to run on vt8 instead of vt 9
[02:37] <jrib> wallnuts: try: startx -- :1 xclock
[02:37] <jrib> wallnuts: I don't know.  It should just grab the next available one
[02:40] <wallnuts> bad server option xclock  tried startx xclock -- :1
[02:40] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, startx -display :1 -- :1 vtn
[02:41] <jrib> wallnuts: it should be "startx -- :1 xclock" iirc
[02:42] <jrib> wallnuts: actually that fails now for me too.  One sec.
[02:43] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, startx -display :1 -- :1 vtn replace 1 with vt8 etc
[02:45] <Cache_Money> I'm trying to change my theme (http://sajithdilshan.github.com/blog/blog/2012/08/07/transform-ubuntu-12-dot-04-into-mac-os-x-lion/) but it won't let me save over the gtk.css file.  How do I change the permissions?
[02:45] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, do I replace :1 with :vt8?
[02:46] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, repleace :1 with :8
[02:47] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, oh I c
[02:48] <LoRez> how can I get alt-` to not be handled by gnome?
[02:48] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, just the same screen flash and the X server shuts down
[02:48] <Phosphate> Really stupid question... Anyone happen to know how to setup wpa_supplicant.conf for an open wireless network (no password)?
[02:48] <mcc> can anyone explain to me why there is a gcc-mingw32  package and also a mingw32 package in ubuntu?
[02:49] <mcc> it *looks* like, in 12.04, gcc-mingw32 installs version 4.6.3 and mingw32 installs version 4.2.x
[02:49] <mcc> but i'm not sure i'm reading this right
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, did u replace both :1
[02:51] <wallnuts> yeah progress, I think it's calling xterm which I don't have I made a link from xclock called xter and success so what should I launch
[02:52] <wallnuts> called xterm that is
[02:52] <wallnuts> I did get a clock
[02:52] <slackin> UNO MAS PARA PUG
[02:53] <jrib> wallnuts: create a ~/.xinitrc
[02:54] <MrUnkownGuy> I can't install java
[02:54] <MrUnkownGuy> im confused with the instructions
[02:55] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: What Java are you trying to install? The official packages from Oracle were pulled because Oracle's a bunch of jerks. lol
[02:55] <DarkAceLaptop> My OS stopped booting, folders in root cannot be read from my 10.04 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140412/
[02:56] <MrUnkownGuy> KatsumeBlisk: Version 7 Upgrade 5 Link: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en
[02:56] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, ops killed the wrong X and had to reboot
[02:57] <MrUnkownGuy> If you know a .deb file it would be very helpful
[02:58] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: What are you using this for? It's easier to install the open sourceversion from the repos
[02:58] <MrUnkownGuy> oh i am trying to download a youtube video but the website says it needs java
[02:59] <KatsumeBlisk> run "sudo apt-cache search openjdk" to find the open source version. I don't use it, so I don't know the exact package name.
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: ^^
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: It'll tell you the package names but not install it.
[03:00] <Tux> MrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:00] <Tux> er
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: That's it ^^
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> I think
[03:00] <Tux> MrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre icedtea-6-plugin
[03:03] <tech1> when i try to shut down my pc it freezes at the shutdown splash screen and something in the pc turns off i can hear, maybe the psu fan.. but then case fan and cpu fan keep running with the image still on the screen... i tried sudo update-grub, then sudo poweroff but same thing.. is this likley to be a motherboard or harddrive issue?
[03:03] <wallnuts> Thanks for the help jrib and gr33n7007h I'm close
[03:04] <DarkAceLaptop> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140414/
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, fstab showed on the original script.
[03:05] <mcc> should i expect "file" for ubuntu to be able to distinguish a 32-bit Windows exe from a 64-bit Windows exe?
[03:05] <DarkAceZ> oh
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, the bootrepair boot info script
[03:05] <DarkAceZ> I see
[03:05] <mcc> i have here installed i686-w64-mingw32-g++
[03:05] <mcc> that name has both 64 and 32 in it
[03:06] <mcc> i do not know what to expect its output files to be
[03:06] <DarkAceZ> I made a forum post, but just like I thought, no help... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post12163100
[03:06] <mcc> if i compile a test program then use "file", i get: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
[03:06] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: Why are you needing a Windows exe?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, can you give me a link to the thread.
[03:07] <DarkAceZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post12163100
[03:07] <mcc> KatsumeBlisk: I develop games. I wish to compile my games in a way that Windows users can play them. I do not have a copy of Windows at present.
[03:07] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: That's a 32bit package whatever that g++ thing is. It's i686.
[03:07] <mcc> katsumeblisk: oh, that makes sense. thanks
[03:07] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: I don't really know if I can help, but I was curious. lol
[03:07] <mcc> ah
[03:08] <mcc> mingw32 is a cross compiler, it is a version of gcc that creates windows exes
[03:10] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: That's cool. I'll look into it. Now, we better stop talking about this since it's offtopic. :P
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, hard to say as far as answers the thread header should attract a few, some wont answer due to the jury rigged setup probably, hard to say.
[03:10] <mcc> well, i am in here specifically to ask about Ubuntu's official packages for the mingw32 project. So I may return to the subject in an ontopic way in a minute :)
[03:11] <Maccer> mcc: I'd recommend building your games using MSVC's LINK.exe in wine, or some other way via a build server.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, best think in the future is have everything backed up including a clone of the OS.
[03:11] <DarkAceZ> okay
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> a clone would of reloaded in a matter of minutes, no harm done.
[03:13] <mcc> maccer: huh. that's kind of an interesting idea.
[03:13] <mcc> maccer: i'm actually really looking for a way to create msvc-compatible static libraries.
[03:14] <mcc> maccer: is msvc or at least cl.exe/link.exe known to work in wine?
[03:14] <mcc> huh come to think of it i kinda wonder if i could rent a windows instance on AWS or something...
[03:14] <Maccer> MCC: I believe so.  It doesn't require a lot of MS API's as it's only command prompt, I wouldn't see why.
[03:15] <mcc> maccer: well, at some point i assume you need to run the installer. but that's very interesting thanks...
[03:16] <Maccer> Yeah, most likely.
[03:16] <howardgrigg> hey guys - anyone know of a script to watch a downloads folder and if a file is an avi automatically convert it to a m4v?
[03:16] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone in here know how to get ubuntu to reinstall all installed packages? I've tried the standard listed --get-selections -> --sect-selections -> -y update --> dselect-upgrade and it simply states there's nothing to update. I've also tried the bash for loop option that's sometimes mentioned but it actually tries to reinstall things that I've *removed* as well
[03:17] <cronie2285> Anyone know how to switch window mangers on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ???
[03:17] <Maccer> That's interesting howardgrigg, no, I don't.  But if you're up for the job, you could write a python script or some shell script with cron job.
[03:18] <Maccer> cronie2285:  If you install via the official repositories and software center, it should appear under the session menu (where you login)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140438/
[03:18] <mcc> howardgrigg: ffmpeg could do the conversion pretty easy, i don't know how to watch a folder tho
[03:19] <cronie2285> Maccer: thanks I'll be right back then
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, ah I see you have tried this method.
[03:19] <howardgrigg> Maccer, hah I am not up to the job sorry - I'm not a dev but I'm running a ubuntu server with plex and torrents but some of the movies won't play on the xbox and the processor isn't fast enough to transcode on demand
[03:19] <howardgrigg> mcc yea i was looking at ffmpeg but unsure how to do it...
[03:19] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I see.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, why do you need all installs reinstalled?
[03:20] <mcc> the way to use ffmpeg is: type "ffmpeg" followed by about 30 inscrutable arguments
[03:20] <mcc> look on google for a cookbook
[03:20] <luftikuss> I invoked '~$ LANG=C weechat-curses'. WeeChat opened. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using X
[03:20] <luftikuss> Chat though.
[03:21] <mcc> also, if you want to make an m4v you are going to need the mpeg4 extensions. due to patent issues, these are not legal in america, and so the debian/ubuntu packages are not in the official repos.
[03:22] <Maccer> Welcome back cronie2285.
[03:22] <cronie2285> Maccer: Yeap , that did the trick , THANKS !
[03:22] <Maccer> no problem o/
[03:23] <howardgrigg> mcc hmm ok - I'm looking forward to have this all setup and then not having to worry about it lol
[03:23] <cronie2285> I installed Kubuntu, now it works.
[03:23] <Maccer> My lazy ass would personally just make a simple shell script file {ffmpeg {parameters} *.extension}, and just execute it every five minutes, or at least add a test if the extension exists
[03:23] <howardgrigg> Maccer, that could do it
[03:24] <mcc> i could tell you how to do this on os x...
[03:24] <mcc> that is... totally useless to you
[03:24] <mcc> wait, i think linux might have an fsevents like mechanism too
[03:25] <mcc> yeah, look at this thing
[03:25] <mcc> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
[03:25] <howardgrigg> yea, I'm currently on my macbook and could probably do it with automator and applescript but that's not going to work to well on the server
[03:25] <mcc> that link explains how to run a cron-like script on every modification of a directory
[03:25] <howardgrigg> yea looking hopeful
[03:31] <lifbrngr> Hello!
[03:31] <Maccer> o/
[03:31] <lifbrngr> I am seeking some assistance for a silly reason.
[03:32] <Maccer> Does it pertain to *ubuntu / linux?  Ah well, ask anyways.
[03:32] <lifbrngr> it pertains to ubuntu and windows on 2 dif partitions.
[03:33] <Maccer> Alright, what seems to be the problem?
[03:33] <lifbrngr> I'm trying to figure out how to link files for an app. I have read it can be done. but I dont know enough to do it.
[03:33] <Maccer> What do you mean by "link files for an app"?
[03:34] <lifbrngr> this may seem silly as I am a 35 y/o man... but I want my steam apps on my windows partion to link to the wine steam app.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> Do you mean symlink application data so that a program on both OSes can use it?
[03:34] <Maccer> Ah.  Yeah, I think that's what he wants/.
[03:34] <lifbrngr> save space and all as I already have them both.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> You can just point Steam in Windows to the spot where they're stored in WINE.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> Or vice versa
[03:35] <Partial_Upgrade> Hi, I just ran a partial upgrade on ubuntu lucid, now there's another partial upgrade. Is that normal?
[03:35] <lifbrngr> that is my delema
[03:35] <Maccer> Personally, I'd just run steam from the partition will all the games but... alright.
[03:35] <lifbrngr> How is that done?
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I did something similar on my desktop running Xubuntu and Win7.
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Well, what I'd do.
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Assuming you mount all folders from both OSes on boot in either OS.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> Is just install Steam, on the windows partition, to the Steam folder in WINE.
[03:36] <Maccer> Partial_Upgrade: Err... that completely depends.  I'm not sure.  You did skip two versions after all?  Maybe you need to upgrade some kernel files too?
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> So, install Steam in WINE. And put steamapps in there.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> And then install Steam again on Windows, in the same partition.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> OR something similar.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> I can try to walk you through it in PM.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> If I remember how to do so :/
[03:37] <Maccer> So yeah, basically you want to read your Win parition's steamapp folder and what not?
[03:37] <lifbrngr> yes... maccer...
[03:37] <TrollingForSoup> Yeah, seems like.
[03:37] <Maccer> Sorry if I misunderstand you.
[03:37] <lifbrngr> I already have all my games installed on the windows partition.
[03:37] <Partial_Upgrade> Maccer: I think you're right, the computer crashed while updating kernal a few weeks ago, I guess that explains the partial upgrades.
[03:37] <TrollingForSoup> Though, why you'd run games under Linux is beyond me... As there's no reason to worry about compatibility issues when you could just reboot.
[03:38] <lifbrngr> True. and I have no problems doing that...
[03:38] <lifbrngr> I am however, getting tired of windows.
[03:38] <Maccer> Okay, well.  You have to remove the folder you want to link.  Then you have to do 'ln -s {windows location to folder} local_folder_name'
[03:38] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: So just a simple: ln -s /path/to/steamapps/on/mounted/windows/partition  /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Programfiles/etc...
[03:39] <Maccer> ^
[03:39] <TrollingForSoup> I was too lazy to type that out, thanks XD
[03:39] <lifbrngr> I would run that in terminal...
[03:39] <lifbrngr> ?
[03:40] <Maccer> Well, I'm not sure about the default Ubuntu desktop environment has to offer, but yes generally.
[03:40] <lifbrngr> forgive a complete newby. thankyou for your help!
[03:40] <Maccer> np <3
[03:40] <Partial_Upgrade> Is there any good voice recognition software for Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Yes.
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Except replace the first location with the actual one.
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Not sure where you mount the Windows partition to.
[03:41] <JC-PTY> guys, does anyone knows how to start x11vnc server from ssh in a remote ubuntu 12.04
[03:41] <Maccer> Partial_Upgrade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[03:41] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: yes. So, say you have your windows partiotion mounted at /mnt, then the command would be ln -s /mnt/Program\ Files/Application\ Data/Steam/Steam\ Apps/etc.. /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/etc...
[03:42] <lifbrngr> ok.
[03:42] <Maccer> tl;dr: ln -s windows/steamapps steamapps
[03:43] <user> hi all
[03:43] <Maccer> Hello user
[03:43] <lifbrngr> the name of the mounted drive is outragiously odd... appears Hex... anyway to change that?
[03:43] <Maccer> It... what?
[03:43] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: And like the others said, the "steamapps" directory under wine can't exist when you run the ln command (obviosly).
[03:43] <Maccer> Oh
[03:43] <lifbrngr> 9E94D90294D8DDB9
[03:44] <Maccer> That's just... yeah, there is some way to change that probably.  But that's just the serial name of it I believe.
[03:44] <lifbrngr> that is the name of my mounted drive.
[03:44] <Maccer> I'm not sure how you'd graphically change the name, but you could just mount it to a different folder of your choosing.  This is desktop environment specific.
[03:45] <Partial_Upgrade> File system label in Disk Utility changes the volume label.
[03:46] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: It's not a big deal, you won't run into it much. But if you want to change it, type "mount" and see what device is mounted to 9E94D-etc.. Should be something like /dev/sda1 or so. Note that down. Next type sudo umount /path_to/9E94D-etc.. Next run: sudo mount /dev/sda1 (or what ever it was) /mnt.
[03:47] <agentgasmask> That will mount your partition under /mnt
[03:48] <lifbrngr> exelent.
[03:48] <ooldirty> ...
[03:49] <lifbrngr> know what?
[03:49] <lifbrngr> I think I just got it by making a link and draging and droping the link into my steam folder.
[03:50]  * agentgasmask tag next tech to help and head off to bed.
[03:51]  * agentgasmask makes the last sentence plural.
[03:51] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: good luck. :)
[03:51] <lifbrngr> Thanks!
[03:51] <Maccer> I'm still here.
[03:51] <Maccer> lifbrngr: I'm not sure if that will work, but when in doubt 'ln -s'
[03:51] <TrollingForSoup> I'm always here.
[03:52] <luftikuss> '~$ LANG=C weechat-curses' opened WeeChat. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using XChat though.
[03:52] <lifbrngr> Good point.. lemme test. brb
[03:54] <Maccer> luftikuss: I'm not familiar with this client but after the forward slash, that's used to denote a channel, not a port.
[03:54] <lifbrngr> it most certianly did..
[03:54] <Maccer> lifbrngr:  Cool!
[03:54] <lifbrngr> What I did for future reference was navigate to the correct folder in my mounted drive.
[03:55] <lifbrngr> I right clicked on the folder I wanted a link of and selected Create link.
[03:55] <Maccer> luftikuss:  A port usually follows after the entire URI, so irc.ubuntu.com/example (+ for ssl)6667
[03:55] <Maccer> lifbrngr: Mh, not surprised.  Most DE's use links as shortcuts.  I just wish windows had extend symlink capabilities that extended beyond explorer.
[03:56] <lifbrngr> I then navigated to my steam folder on the .wine system and placed the link there. but not untill I renamed the origional folder ***.BAK
[03:56] <luftikuss> Maccer, I don't think that I need to a add a port number: Yesterday I did not need entering it either.
[03:56] <Maccer> Huh, actually it does exist.  Just not in a shortcut form.  It's called mklink.
[03:56] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Of course you don't, by default it will assign 6667.
[03:57] <Maccer> /6667 is not the port is what I'm saying
[03:57] <lifbrngr> Thank you all for your assistance in this matter.
[03:57] <lifbrngr> :)
[03:57] <Maccer> We love you too, lifbrngr. <3
[03:57] <lifbrngr> YAY!!!!!!!
[03:58] <lifbrngr> Now I'm off to theme some more android roms.
[03:58] <Maccer> By the way, I'm not even sure if irc.ubuntu.com works, because the channel is actually hosted on freenode.  Could be just a DNS redirection though.
[03:58] <Maccer> lifbrngr:  f'sho
[03:59] <luftikuss> Maccer, It is difficult for me to understand you. May be the reason is that my native language is not Englisch. I did not state that " /6667 is  the port."
[03:59] <luftikuss> -c
[04:00] <reasearcher123> All sites open except facebook,tatasky dont open on myPC. It just takes infinite time trying to open and never opens.Help please
[04:00] <Maccer> luftikuss: Ah, I'm sorry.  Try to connect:  'irc.ubuntu.org' or 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[04:01] <Maccer> reasearcher123:  Sounds like a DNS or another connection problem unrelated to Ubuntu.  Can you be more specific?  When did it start?  Was it always like this?
[04:01] <Maccer> Mh, tsk tsk tsk.
[04:06] <Idk2932984823428> Can someone help me with spmething?
[04:07] <Maccer> Of course, Mr. Idk2932984823428
[04:07] <Maccer> Or... Ms.
[04:07] <Idk2932984823428> Thanks lol mr
[04:07] <Idk2932984823428> I have a laptop using windows xp but i want to put xubuntu on it and get rid of windows os
[04:08] <Idk2932984823428> I already downloded the iso and the iso torrent
[04:08] <Idk2932984823428> And im trying to burn the iso to a disc
[04:09] <Maccer> Idk2932984823428:  Does this not work?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> The thing is when i put the blank disc in it doesnt come up
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> Idk why
[04:09] <Maccer> What doesn't come up?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> The dick
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> disk' LOL
[04:09] <TrollingForSoup> Are you sure your disk drive is working?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> Yea when i put it in i hear it spinning
[04:09] <TrollingForSoup> I know my crappy ASUS one sometimes doesn't detect blank CDs.
[04:10] <Maccer> ;)
[04:10] <Idk2932984823428> but it stops after like 10 secs
[04:10] <Maccer> Go in to the explorer / file manager, does it see the disk?
[04:10] <TrollingForSoup> If not, just use unetbootin.
[04:10] <TrollingForSoup> And a flash drive/
[04:10] <Idk2932984823428> whats that
[04:10] <Maccer> Err, do you see the CD/Disk in My Computer?
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> I click my computer but it never shows up
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> But my usb drive does
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> unetbootin lets you turn flash drives into bootable "disks"
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> I use it for OS installs.
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> Can you link me?
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> So i can download it
[04:11] <Maccer> Yep, just a warning though, USB Flash Drive installations will be a little slower.
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> Just Google unetbootinl.
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> I have patience lol
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> Would USB3 still be slower?
[04:11] <Maccer> Or... by a lot.  It depends of course.
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Like will it take an hour or 2?
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> Nah.,
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Longer?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info unetbootin
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> I installed Xubuntu in about 20 mins with a USB2 flash drive.
[04:12] <Maccer> TrollingForSoup:  I honestly don't know.  I think it probably depends on your flash drive read speeds.
[04:12] <Relondo> Okay, so I went to install Ubuntu on a computer after it had a Wubi install. I uninstalled Wubi, and booted a liveCD. Normally I get an easy-to-use graphical installer, but instead I'm prompted to
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> Ew, Wubi.
[04:12] <Relondo> "Select device for bootloader installation"
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Does my flash drive have enough space trolling?
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> Idk2932984823428, Is it 1GB or more?
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Lol no
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> It has to be over 700MB.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Ugh
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> For the full install.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> I have like 520 mb flash drive
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> You can probably do minimal in less.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> ---____---
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> That's why I have like 20 8GB flash drives lying around.
[04:13] <Maccer> Is that a clean flash drive, or does it have files?
[04:13] <Relondo> Sorry, if anyone responded to my question, I got disconnected briefly.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Lol i have like 2 cds with 700 mb on them
[04:13] <Relondo> Can they repeat it, if they did?
[04:13] <Maccer> Relondo: I saw it, sec.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> but my cd drive isnt reading them -_-
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Hm...
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:what are u trying to install
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Do you have 120 floppy disks?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> lol troll
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> That would almost cover it.
[04:14] <Idk2932984823428> lol i dont have a floppy drive
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> 140 to be safe.
[04:14] <Relondo> lotuspsychje:  Just a normal Ubuntu 12.04 install.
[04:14] <Maccer> Relondo:  What are the options?
[04:14] <Maccer> And did you install Wubi inside of Windows?
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Well, you can use Ubuntu server install on the 512MB, maybe.
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Not sure what size it is.
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:you want a clean install or dualboot?
[04:15] <TrollingForSoup> And then install xubuntu-desktop manually.
[04:15] <Idk2932984823428> How?
[04:15] <TrollingForSoup> I'll walk you through in PM.
[04:15] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: Dual boot.
[04:15] <Idk2932984823428> Ok lol
[04:15] <Maccer> Wubi can dual boot with it being on the same parition as Windows AFAIK.
[04:15] <Relondo> Maccer: I installed Wubi inside Windows, then uninstalled. And the options are: I have a window titled "Installation Type"
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:i hear sometimes win7 bootloader gets messy on ubuntu installs
[04:16] <Relondo> It lists my drives just like GParted does, but  prompts me "Choose Device for boot loader installation"
[04:17] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: It wants a drive for the bootloader. I guess what I'm asking is where do I put the bootloader? Do I make a new partition?
[04:17] <Maccer> Ah so you're installing this from the Live CD?  Well, from the partition manager you'd have to install it on some free space or on some other partition (which will overwrite)
[04:17] <howardgrigg> would Precise Pangolin run ok on a 1.5gHz dual core
[04:17] <howardgrigg> ?
[04:17] <Maccer> (The Live CD has an option like WUBI if you're ever unsure BTW)
[04:17] <howardgrigg> desktop version
[04:17] <Relondo> Maccer: Let me give you a screenshot. Second.
[04:17] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I wouldn't doubt it.
[04:18] <howardgrigg> Maccer, cool
[04:18] <howardgrigg> :)
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:loose win7 lol and full install ubuntu
[04:18] <SnapSnap> Is there a way to make the default chat client Pidgin instead of Empathy. Will it still be integrated into the desktop bar?
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> the live cd will not install wubi has not for several releases.
[04:18] <Partial_Upgrade> I completed a partial upgrade in ubuntu 10.04, now the update service doesn't update anything. It says fix the broken packages. Any ideas?
[04:18] <Maccer> SnapSnap:  I don't know about the first question, but it will be integrated, yes.
[04:19] <Maccer> As long as it's running, it will be there.
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !10.04
[04:19] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: That's not an option here.
[04:19] <Relondo> Maccer: Here: http://imgur.com/tnix7
[04:19] <SnapSnap> Maccer: So if I uninstall empathy and install pidgin it will integrate pidgin?
[04:19] <Maccer> SnapSnap:  All the time when Pidgin is running
[04:19] <SnapSnap> Maccer: Thanks
[04:20] <Maccer> Relondo:  That interface is for formatting and creating new partitions, if you select one of those disks, it will format and overwrite.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, you have 4 primary partitions on that HD, the max allowed
[04:20] <Maccer> That's not his problem, no?
[04:20] <howardgrigg> noob question: if I install the desktop version onto a server without a screen can I vnc into it and use the GUI?
[04:21] <Maccer> Well, it is if he wants to make a new primary partition.
[04:21] <Relondo> Maccer: This just popped up through normal installation.
[04:21] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I... doubt it.  I don't think it's configured for that purpose.
[04:21] <Relondo> Wilee-nilee: One of those is my flash drive running the live session.
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Maccer, a extended so there is room for a swap would be prudent as a replacement for one of them.
[04:22] <howardgrigg> Maccer, what would you recommend?
[04:22] <Maccer> Relondo:  Yes, so what's the problem?  You don't know what to select to install?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:if you install a desktop version, you can always vnc into it from another location
[04:22] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  Why can't you use a regular server or alternate CD?
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, look closer I see no sdb
[04:22] <Relondo> Maccer: Indeed. This is not the install screen I've been prompted with before.
[04:22] <Maccer> You can?  They put that in?  Well, that should answer your question howardgrigg, apparently it can.
[04:23] <Maccer> Relondo:  Hit back and see your options.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, you have sda1,2,3 and 4
[04:23] <Maccer> Relondo:  There's three, either one, you write with windows, two overwrite something, or three something else (this screen)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | howardgrigg
[04:24] <howardgrigg> I'm looking at buying the HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L but it doesn't have a display port and I'm not comfortable with using it only through the CLI
[04:24] <Maccer> You'll have to learn some time, plus, the CLI install isn't too bad.  It's quasi-graphical.
[04:24] <howardgrigg> i figured if I can vnc into it (just from my local network) then I can manage it like that
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg: its not recommended to install desktop version on a server (for server purposes)
[04:25] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  You could, of course.  Usually people don't buy micro servers for this purpose though.
[04:25] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Not sure why this has so many partitions; I haven't created any. I don't think Wubi makes one, though, right?
[04:25] <Relondo> Maccer: My options are: "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" or "Something Elsee"
[04:26] <howardgrigg> hmm maybe i should have a look at the server version instead (scares me though…)
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:better install the server edition, then install a vnc server on it
[04:26] <Maccer> Relondo:  Yes, I don't think it does.  If this is a consumer PC, then there could be a couple explanations on why these partitions are there.  I'd recommend you go in Windows and figure it out if you're not sure.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !server | howardgrigg
[04:26] <Maccer> The first one could be the boot loader, others could be possible recovery disks.  Who knows.
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, looks like boot partition is sda1, OEM's quite often have 4 partitions
[04:27] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[04:27] <Relondo> Maccer: Okay. Hm.
[04:27]  * howardgrigg goes researching
[04:27] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Alright, so do I overwrite sda1?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Relondo: to install win7 dualboot, many reccomend make a new partition from within win7 first, to install ubuntu on
[04:28] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Actually, I'm going to boot Windows and check it out. I'll be right back.
[04:28] <Golfgeo> setting up a specialised laptop, and would like a swap file at the beginning and end of the harddrive... But... Have read about hibernate problems when re-enabling it on a machine with multiple swap files... Any thoughts or how-to's for 12.04?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, that is way to small and would crash the boot, is the computer completely backed up=cloned and do you have a install or recovery disc?
[04:29] <Golfgeo> *swap partition
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !hibernate | Golfgeo
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo: not sure what you wanna try to do, but hibernate problems should be solveable..
[04:30] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: Guess you're asking a bot to send me some info... didn't receive it though :D
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:bot has no info on it so it seems
[04:31] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read somewhere that the kernel on poweron can't see what swap partition the hibernated state is written on...
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !swap
[04:32] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read that one :)
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:not sure about that, but im sure theres a solution for it
[04:32] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: but it states that 12.04 does it differently
[04:33] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: k :)
[04:33] <TrollingForSoup> I don't think I've ever had to use swap.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:maybe this can help? http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> brb
[04:35] <Maccer> If you're planning to use 4GB on a 64-bit computer or 2GB or less on a 32-bit, I'd probably suggest for you to use swap.
[04:35] <Maccer> As firefox + flash player leaks tons of memory, combined with other applications.  You could get around that though.
[04:35] <Maccer> The only I time I personally touched 2GB is when firefox leaked a gigabyte.
[04:36] <Maccer> (64-bit on 8GB)
[04:36] <Golfgeo> Maccer: I know haha, hate firefox for that specific thing
[04:36] <Golfgeo> love it too, but for other reasons :D
[04:36] <blake_> Question: My system load average is between 1.3 and 1.5 while idle. Is this normal?
[04:37] <kannudo> is there a way to burn the latest version of ubuntu onto a single CD? the iso for it is 701 MB and as far as i know cd's only go to 700 MB..
[04:37] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read that one too :D
[04:37] <blake_> Can someone please explain 'load' ? My cpu and ram usage is low, but load is high. Why?
[04:38] <Maccer> Just curious blake_, how did you average CPU load on idle anyways?
[04:38] <blake_> kannudo the extra MB is iso information. It should burn to a single CDROM fine if you use the burning software's "Burn ISO Image" feature.
[04:38] <Golfgeo> kannudo: iso buring tools are smart... the 701 mb shouldn't be a big problem untill the tool states it is ;) so... just try :D
[04:38] <blake_> Maccer I type 'uptime' into terminal, and it shows me average load. In my past experience with Linux, anything over 1.0 is 'high'
[04:38] <kannudo> so powerISO will know what to do? coolness... i knew there was a reason i love computers!
[04:39] <blake_> kannudo Yes, it will work. But don't just burn the ISO to the CD, make sure you use "Burn ISO"
[04:39] <kannudo> thanks bunches.... gotta run!!!
[04:39] <ryanwong1030> kannudo: i never burn iso . just from hard disk.
[04:39] <hsidhu> hi I'm having a difficulty installing ubuntu. I've done it a million times before but this is a strange issue I'm having. My desktop has 2 hard drives (1 TB and 2 TB). The 1 TB hard drive has two partitions one of which has Windows 7 Installed. I cannot see my partitions in the "install" section of the installation process. Can anyone help me?
[04:40] <Maccer> blake_: I suppose that would be true on a server, but I've never had experience with desktop models.  uptime/top doesn't measure average load by just idling though, there could be tons of factors
[04:40] <Maccer> blake_: I suggest ask the guys at ##linux, tell me what they say.
[04:40] <steven_> supp guys
[04:40] <Maccer> And mention if it's a desktop or not.
[04:40] <blake_> Maccer thanks
[04:41] <hsidhu> Can anyone help me with partitioning issue for installing ubuntu? I cannot see my partitions on the ubuntu install :(
[04:41] <steven_> windows is wackk
[04:41] <Maccer> hsidhu:  One sec, reading.
[04:41] <steven_> windows suckss
[04:41] <steven_> odeee
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.
[04:42] <Maccer> hsidhu:  What do you mean?  You can't see any partitions on the 1TB hard-drive?
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: I don't know which one is my windows partition and which one is my second partition of my 1 tb hard drive
[04:42] <ryanwong1030> hsidu : using one hard-dreive
[04:43] <hsidhu> Maccer: I'm going to assume /dev/sdb1 is my second hard drive which is 2 TB in size
[04:43] <blake_> Maccer Is there a trick to getting +v in ##linux ?
[04:43] <Maccer> blake_: You don't need +v, why?  Just need to be registered.
[04:43] <blake_> Maccer, Ah. I'd better register then =)
[04:43] <Maccer> hsidhu:  I'm... not sure.  /dev/sdb tends to be removable storage, no?
[04:44] <Maccer> Well, /dev/sdb is the second SCSI, SATA, or USB disk on a computer.
[04:44] <Maccer> /dev/sdb1 is the third I presume.
[04:44] <hsidhu> Maccer: I'm not sure. If I go to the Home folder I can see my drives like I do in Windows. I see my 189 GB partition and 811 gb partition of my 1 TB hard drive. I also see my 2 tb hard drive. I want to install ubuntu on my 811 GB hard drive.
[04:44] <Maccer> /dev/sda is the first
[04:45] <Golfgeo> oke, decided on just one swap partition pfff! now to decided it on the beginning or end of disk haha
[04:45] <Relondo> maccer, wilee-nilee: So I found out that the 20 gig is my recovery, the 200meg is the "Active System Partition" the 600gig is my operating system and files, and the 100meg is "HP Diagnostic Tools".
[04:45] <hsidhu> Maccer: The installer is not telling me the size of the devices so I am not able to differentiate between them.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, Yep standard oem install.
[04:45] <TaJMoX> Maccer by "registered" do you mean my name to be registered on NickServ?
[04:46] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: oem?
[04:46] <Maccer> hsidhu:  Go to ctrl+alt+f1, type in fdisk -l, maybe you'll get more information.
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, manufacturers install.
[04:46] <Idk8348394329442> Im back
[04:46] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Okay, but just out of curiousity, what does it stand for?
[04:46] <Maccer> Original equipment manuf.
[04:47] <OerHeks> hsidhu, in your bios, is your hdd controller set to AHCi or IDE ? that could explain why linux does not see a partition
[04:47] <Maccer> Active system protection... sounds like some fancy made up name.
[04:47] <Relondo> Maccer: Thanks.
[04:47] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: So is the "System" partition the bootloader? Can I put Grub on there?
[04:47] <TaJMoX> Maccer after pressing CTRL+ALT+F1, how do I get back to X11?
[04:47] <Maccer> Ctrl+Alt+F7
[04:47] <hsidhu> OerHeks: I'm not sure should I go check now?
[04:47] <Maccer> Sorry. :P
[04:48] <hsidhu> OerHeks: What should it be set to.
[04:48] <OerHeks> hsidhu, check if it is set to AHCI yes
[04:48] <Maccer> TaJMoX:  Yes on Nickserv btw.
[04:48] <hsidhu> OerHeks: Should it be set to AHCI?
[04:48] <TaJMoX> Maccer I use CTRL+ALT+F5 usually..but how do I get back to GUI?
[04:48] <Maccer> Ctrl+Alt+F7, TaJMoX
[04:48] <TaJMoX> Thanks again Maccer
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, Go to the ubuntu forum if you can't get exacting help here, I believe the firm ware sda4, can be put in a extended, so that you can delete it and put a extended in with some shrinking of other partitions, for the ubuntu and swap partitions, I have seen that advised, but confirm this.
[04:49] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Extended?
[04:50] <Golfgeo> lol, my current laptop offers some comfort :D There I've placed the swappartition in the middle of the disk haha
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Trollingforsoup im back
[04:50] <Maccer> I think he could safely delete some partitions as long as they're not for boot or interfere with any crazy application in Windows.  I'd do NTFS formatting in windows for safety though.
[04:50] <Golfgeo> I hate my life! hihi
[04:50] <TrollingForSoup> Hey, idk.
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Hey lol
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Did you find the link?
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, a extended partition allows you to use logical partitions and get past the 4 primary partition limit linux will run this way windows wont without some tweaking that I would not bother with, but supposedly the firmware partition sda4 can.
[04:51] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: ...so the System partition isn't the bootloader, then?
[04:51] <spupuser2> good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"
[04:51] <Golfgeo> installing it a bitch untill you're past the partitioning fase whahha
[04:51] <Maccer> Relondo:  Just check which partition has the boot flag or property set in gparted.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, most like the boot is on both so you can run the recovery
[04:51] <Maccer> Extended partitions are also known logical partitions BTW.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> likely*
[04:52] <s0126h> what is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/41360
[04:52] <Golfgeo> But guy's, thanks for the help with my questions! Me is off to the rubberwalled room I call my PC Lab ;) have a great day! :)
[04:52] <Maccer> Using the windows system recovery, you could write the MBR to your main Windows partition temporarily.
[04:52] <Maccer> Bai bai Golfgeo o/
[04:52] <Maccer> s0126h:  Context?  What is the output of this from?
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, we could see, but removing sda1 would mean you would have to do partition moving that may brick the windows.
[04:52] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Says the system partition is boot. Is it the bootloader, or something critical to Windows itself?
[04:52] <s0126h> maccer did you click the link?
[04:53] <jrib> s0126h: google "awk sum column" :x
[04:53] <Maccer> Relondo:  It's not necessarily critical, you can always change it.  But without prior modification, you'll need it to boot into Windows.  This would actually be a nice place to write GRUB in.
[04:54] <Maccer> s0126h:  Yes, I don't understand where this output is from.  Plain text?  Some CLI excel?
[04:54] <luftikuss> Yesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?
[04:54] <s0126h> maccer .txt
[04:54] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: But I need significant modification to boot Windows from GRUB on that partition, right?
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, hard to say exactly different manufacturers set them up differently, most likely it has the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /  and is tied to the recovery
[04:54] <Maccer> s0126h:  Do what jrib suggests then, or something like this: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers.
[04:54] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: This smells of an anti-Linux move.
[04:55] <Maccer> Not necessarily, just OEM proprietary bullshit.  Most likely for some tech support scheme.
[04:55] <Maccer> Err, my language.
[04:55] <Maccer> But yeah.
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, grub will pick it up it is whether you will be able to run the recovery I would worry about. Do you have a clone of the W& and a recovery or install disc?
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> W7*
[04:55] <Maccer> So you could put GRUB there, but now we have to know what we can free up to put that single logical/extended partition there.
[04:55] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: The install is brand new. I don't need anything off of it, so data loss isn't really an issue.
[04:56] <Maccer> Oh.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, it is not data loss it is having a backup in case you can not access the recovery.
[04:56] <Maccer> Delete something that's not Windows 7.  Recovery partitions are things just to make the consumer feel like he has a back up plan for tech support.
[04:56] <Delta|Mac> Hi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.
[04:56] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: OS loss is, however. Can I redeem the serial number on the bottom of the laptop online for a download of Windows?
[04:56] <Maccer> So tech support can "recover" data from said partition.
[04:56] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  It does not?
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Oh, got it.
[04:57] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: no very limited infomation I can find out.
[04:57] <s0126h> what is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/41360
[04:57] <TaJMoX> Question: I installed Compiz Settings Manager to get the stupid wobbly windows, but compiz is using 10% cpu always now ... How do I revert to whatever it was before compiz?
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: ...can I just get rid of HP Tools? I have no desire for their diagnostics.
[04:57] <Maccer> Relondo: Yes, I suppose.  Just don't delete Windows 7.
[04:57] <Maccer> Relondo:  I don't see why not.
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Heh, well, that's a given.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, If it was me, I would clone it, remove the recovery partition, put a extended in its place and install ubuntu there.
[04:58] <spupuser2> good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"
[04:58] <Maccer> s0126:  Use AWK and read http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers, or just google "awk sum column"
[04:58] <Maccer> spupuser2:  That's interesting.  You mean on the mouse or just on the desktop window?
[04:58] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: I don't have an external drive big enough to clone the drive to.
[04:59] <spupuser2> desktop
[04:59] <spupuser2> ty Maccer
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, clonezilla will only clone the data, and the mbr but needs a same size partition for reinstall.
[04:59] <Maccer> Relondo:  Why would you want to do that, for back up?  It's not like a recovery partition will do you any good when your hard-drive crashes
[04:59] <Maccer> "Recovery partition"
[05:00] <Maccer> spupuser2:  Hrm... this is on the default GNOME desktop, correct?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> most cloners do this, not a equal partition to partition save just a equal in size on the reinstall. Relondo
[05:00] <dadis> The proper way is to add an entry to /usr/share/xessions
[05:00] <spupuser2> looking at nautilus options
[05:00] <Maccer> spupuser2:  Here's a hack you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176963
[05:01] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: I do not have a physical drive with enough capacity to hold the contents of the recovery partition. And a recovery partition would still do me good if Windows crashed. Obviously a crashed hard drive can't be helped much at all.
[05:01] <Maccer> spupuser2: Don't run that, I think that disables right click system wide though.
[05:02] <Maccer> Relondo:  Do you even know what's inside the recovery partition?
[05:02] <Maccer> Generally it's just some driver files and what not.  I think it's useless IMHO.  If my windows crashes, I'd use some live boot or pre-execution environment to get my files off.
[05:02] <spupuser2> Maccer, ur awesome.  and I am glad you are here in this chat
[05:02] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Not really.
[05:03] <Maccer> spupuser2: aww, thanks
[05:03] <jen> heeyyyy I know this is ubuntu but does anyone use MyPaint?
[05:03] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Ah. So install Ubuntu on the recovery partition?
[05:03] <Maccer> Never heard of it jen, sorry.
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, I would not mess with it tell you do have a cloned backup, or if you want to buy a disc and risk losing stuff in the future have at it. A recdovery partition is not the best insurance as well, it can get infected since it is on the same HD.
[05:03] <Pummel> Can anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/
[05:04] <Maccer> Relondo:  This is what I would do if you want to save a copy of this "recovery" partition, hold on, let me look at your screen
[05:04] <disown> curious I am wondering is winbind and winbindd (the services) linux's service to make the linux samba software function as a domain controller. Essentially is all you need on your machine samba and windbind to make your computer into a linux domain controller ?
[05:04] <disown> I am almost 99% sure it is
[05:05] <Maccer> This recovery partition is /dev/sda3 (#3) is right, Relondo?  What about sda4 (#4)? http://i.imgur.com/tnix7.png
[05:05] <disown> looking at the packages with dpkg -L windbind  , apt-cache search ...etc
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, not install on the recovery partition remove it when you have a good clone and make a extended, where it was.
[05:06] <Maccer> disown: I'm unfamiliar with samba.  You could ask around in #debian, ##linux, or #ubuntu-server
[05:06] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Alright. Well, thanks to both of you for your help, but I'm out. See ya.
[05:07] <Maccer> Alrighty then!
[05:08] <Delta|Mac> Hi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.
[05:09] <Maccer> Delta|Mac: Ah right, so you said you don't know if this works (meaning you haven't tried)?
[05:09] <Delta|Mac> I've tried for many hour.
[05:10] <Delta|Mac> Could you help me understand, The card chipset says CMI8786 but lspci says it's 8788 ?
[05:10] <BentFranklin> I ssh from A to B using keys.  Now I want to ssh from C to B.  Do I run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id again on C? Or can I just copy the private key from A to C?
[05:10] <Maccer> Ah, so it doesn't work.  According to the ALSA wikipedia it says: "This hardware has no volume controls; use PulseAudio. Front panel, HP, and microphones do not work. "
[05:11] <Maccer> BentFranklin: I think the existing key should work, yes
[05:11] <BentFranklin> Maccer: Thanks
[05:12] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  Run this command in a terminal please: 'cat /proc/asound/version'
[05:12] <Maccer> Tell me the output.
[05:12] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thanks,although I have read some have it working on ubuntu which brought me here after installing ubuntu :)
[05:14] <luftikuss> Yesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?
[05:14] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: The version is 1.0.25 on kernel 3.2.0-29
[05:14] <Pummel> Can anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/
[05:15] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  According to the wiki, it says you need 1.0.26.  Find a way to get that alsa version, or upgrade to 12.10 alpha.
[05:15] <Maccer> I'll help you in a sec Delta|Mac.
[05:15] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thank you.
[05:15] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Try connecting via 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:16] <rgenito> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 headless, and i just plugged in a usb flash drive
[05:16] <Maccer> Pummel:  Is there more to this output?
[05:16] <rgenito> ....and i'm kind of let down to see that it wasn't automatically mounted :(
[05:16] <rgenito> is there a package i need to install in order for my usb flash drives to automatically mount?
[05:16] <rgenito> (fuse usb something?)
[05:16] <TrollingForSoup> In UBuntu? You shouldn't need anything.
[05:17] <Maccer> rgenito:  udev, I believe.
[05:17] <Maccer> He's using the headless version.
[05:17] <rgenito> Maccer: what is this about udev?
[05:17] <rgenito> apt-get install udev?
[05:17] <Maccer> Yup.
[05:17] <rgenito> hmm, "udev is already the latest version" :|
[05:17] <Maccer> Hrm...
[05:18] <rgenito> udevd?
[05:18] <rgenito> ps aux |grep udevd  ... with this i can see that there are 3 instances of it running
[05:18] <rgenito> not sure if that is normal :D
[05:19] <Maccer> You can try autofs, rgenito.
[05:19] <rgenito> "autofs"?
[05:19] <Maccer> Yup.
[05:20] <rgenito> ah, i see afuse...
[05:20] <luftikuss> Maccer, '/connect irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP."
[05:20] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Try the command
[05:20] <rgenito> ty Maccer, ima try this out :D
[05:20] <Maccer> '/server irc.ubuntu.com'
[05:20] <Maccer> If this does not work luftikuss, attempt: 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:21] <crimsonmane> luftikuss: also try "/newserver <servername>
[05:22] <crimsonmane> if using xchat, press CONTROL S for the easy way
[05:22] <Maccer> He's using weechat.
[05:22] <Maccer> Delta|Mac: Alsa 1.0.26 hasn't come to the repositories yet.  You might have to compile your own or use a custom .deb package
[05:23] <Maccer> rgenito:  You could also try psydm which is graphical.
[05:23] <luftikuss> Maccer, '/server irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "iirc: unknown option for "server" command"
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> You know, I should probably use a vhost...
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> Anyone kind enough to tell me how?
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> I forget; it's been awhile.
[05:24] <Maccer> Err, do you have one requested for freenode?
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> Nope.
[05:24] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: I have attempted but failed.
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> How would I do that?
[05:24] <Maccer> TrollingForSoup: Ask on ##freenode I believe.  But they only hand it out for a select people.  I don't remember.
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> Oh, really?
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> You can't just automatically have one?
[05:25] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I don't feel as stupid then.
[05:25] <luftikuss> Maccer, '/server irc.freenode.net/ubuntu' obtains: "iirc: unknown option for "server" command."
[05:25] <rgenito> Maccer, know out to get autofs to automatically mount mah sheit? @_@
[05:25] <icequeen> Is there a way to detect on which (of two) hard drives Grub is installed?
[05:25] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  Your sound card has experimental support in Linux which is only available in alsa ALSA 1.0.26 (not released yet) and Kernel 3.5
[05:26] <Maccer> luftikuss: try '/connect irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:26] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thank you for the information. I have no idea on how to obtain or upgrade to 1.0.26 or kernel 3.5. Which I'm googling for 1.0.26 but can't find infomation.
[05:27] <physically_fit> who here speaks turkish, help me translate 4 words. thanks.
[05:27] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  It should come out soon.  But not now obviously.
[05:27] <hsidhu> My hard drive was set to IDE mode and I just changed it to AHCI. I am not able to see my windows partition in the "install section". All it says is /dev/sda
[05:27] <hsidhu> I also removed my 2 tb hard drive
[05:28] <hsidhu> so now it's just my 1 TB hard drive with 2 partitions
[05:29] <luftikuss> crimsonmane, '/newserver irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "Error: unknown command "newserver"."
[05:29] <hsidhu> Maccer: I removed my hard drive. I changed from IDE to AHCI. Now all i see is /dev/sda
[05:29] <Pummel> Maccer - yes, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140522/ for the whole thing...
[05:30] <icequeen> Hi, is there anyway to find out where Grub is installed?
[05:30] <luftikuss> Maccer, This obtains: " irc: unable to create server "irc.freenode.net/ubuntu"."
[05:31] <luftikuss> icequeen, Use locate
[05:31] <Maccer> hsidhu:  I didn't suggest that, lol.  I have no clue then.
[05:31] <luftikuss> icequeen, »locate« is a command.
[05:31] <hsidhu> Maccer: :(
[05:32] <icequeen> luftikuss just "locate grub"?
[05:32] <luftikuss> icequeen, yes.
[05:32] <Maccer> Pummel:  Give me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.lst file
[05:32] <Maccer> (the output)
[05:32] <physically_fit> !tu
[05:32] <physically_fit> uh
[05:32] <physically_fit> !es
[05:32] <physically_fit> !tr
[05:33] <icequeen> luftikuss okay, I ran the command but it doesn't tell me whether it's on sda or sdb.
[05:35] <Pummel> Maccer:  Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140524/
[05:36] <Golfgeo> Me is back :)
[05:37] <Golfgeo> got another question
[05:37] <Maccer> Pummel:  Try running 'sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*'
[05:37] <Golfgeo> does the filemanager of ubuntu (xubuntu for this install) use MB or MiB?
[05:37] <Maccer> Pummel:  And then 'sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update'
[05:39] <Maccer> If that fails Pummel:  Give me the output on /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:40] <hamiltont> Does anyone else notice the "restart" option missing from the networking service in 12.04 server?
[05:40] <hamiltont> It's got start and stop, but no restart
[05:40] <Maccer> That would be odd.
[05:41] <Pummel> Maccer:  That file is huge, you want the whole thing?
[05:42] <hamiltont> Looking at the init.d script - I'm seeing the case for force-reload and restart is still there, but it's got a log_warning_msg "Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not enable again in some interfaces"
[05:43] <Maccer> That depends how huge... if we're talking about 500+ for approximation, give me lines 1-100.  I assume it didn't work?
[05:43] <Pummel> No, it didn't and I'm sure it's more than 500 lines
[05:43] <hamiltont> Ok…it seems to run with the restart option. Should my SSH session stay alive? That's kind of awesome.
[05:43] <Pummel> What specifically are you looking for in the first 100 lines so I can make sure I get it
[05:43] <Maccer> 1-100 will do, I suppose.  I just need lines around #2
[05:44] <Maccer> Again, I just need an approximation.  There's an issue with #2
[05:44] <Maccer> Actually uhh.
[05:44] <KatsumeBlisk> Anyone use Grive for Google Drive? If so, how is it as an alternative until Google (hopefully) releases a client?
[05:44] <Maccer> Pummel:  If you could find lines that contain either "libasound2" or "UsePackage2"
[05:45] <Pummel> ok, will start looking now
[05:45] <Maccer> Package: libasound2 maybe
[05:51] <bond_> the command is asking for password prompt. How to avoid it?---> echo 'mypassword' | sudo bash script.sh
[05:51] <Pummel> Maccer:  here you go... is it the " between ok and installed?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140542/
[05:51] <Maccer> How to avoid the prompt?  That would depends on how it works
[05:52] <Maccer> Pummel:  Replace that line with 'Status: install ok installed'
[05:53] <Maccer> Save and attempt to update
[05:53] <Pummel> ok
[05:53] <bond_> Maccer: i am calling that command from a script. Any way to avoid password prompt?
[05:54] <myke_> Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?
[05:54] <Maccer> bond_, the sudo prompt right?  No, I don't think so.
[05:54] <Maccer> You'll have to run the script as root before hand to avoid it
[05:55] <bond_> Maccer: the script is being called from java pogram. I am running java program as sudo.. still it isnt working
[05:55] <Maccer> Oh, so you need java to call it as root or sudo?
[05:55] <bond_> yes Maccer
[05:56] <lingolatz> Hello all, I am doing a survey as part of a high school project. I need some Linux users to complete the survey. The survey takes less than three minutes. If you can, the survey is found at: fluidsurveys.com/surveys/lingolatz/linux-questions-for-linux-users/
[05:56] <gr33n7007h> unity --reset unity --replace
[05:56] <Maccer> Two options, 1. run the java program as root. 2. Use a graphical sudo prompt like 'gksudo' (but you'll still have to input your password)
[05:57] <bond_> Maccer: 2nd option not feasible and already done 1st option.. its not working.
[05:58] <Benkinooby> will hyperthreading technology in CPUs make a difference for linux?
[05:58] <Pummel> Maccer:  That fixed the initial problem :)  The reason it got that way was it crashed out of an upgrade from 11 to 12 and I just haven't been working on fixing it until now
[05:58] <Maccer> Benkinooby:  Possibly, why would it not?
[05:58] <Maccer> Pummel:  Oh, I guess that makes some sense.
[05:59] <Maccer> bond_, mh... I'm not sure there.  You could also try setting the setuid bit of the shell script to root, but that's extremely dangerous.  Ask on #linux, they should know more about this topic
[06:00] <Maccer> If you do the setuid method, anyone will be able to run it as root.
[06:00] <myke_> Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?
[06:00] <bond_> Maccer: i am the only user\
[06:00] <crimsonmane> myke_: did you check the hardware compatibility list?
[06:01] <Maccer> bond_: Still.  Anything or anyone can run it.
[06:01] <bond_> true
[06:01] <bond_> anyway thanks :)
[06:01] <Maccer> Even lindsay.lohan.naked.sh or /usr/bin/explicit-content
[06:09] <Pummel> Maccer:  Now I get this error when I try to upgrade the files I have... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140549/   is this hopeless?
[06:11] <Maccer> Pummel:  Uhh, I don't see an error, just warnings.
[06:11] <Maccer> Did you paste the entire thing?
[06:12] <Pummel> yes
[06:12] <Maccer> And segmentation faults... that's not good.
[06:13] <Maccer> Paste all the package containers from /var/lib/dpkg/status that dpkg complains about
[06:14] <Pummel> those 3 (2 are the same) ok
[06:14] <Maccer> Try 'sudo dpkg -P apg  && sudo dpkg -P git-core && sudo dpkg -P speech-dispatch'
[06:17] <Maccer> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianproblem.htm (Rescue using dpkg) could be possibly of use
[06:18] <Pummel> Maccer:  Here is the info for apg from the status file - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140558/
[06:18] <Maccer> Did you try that (those) commands?
[06:18] <Pummel> doing it now
[06:20] <Pummel> it gave me two warnings but no errors
[06:21] <Pummel> Here it is... :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140561/
[06:21] <tech1> im making a script that does lots of things including installing multiple software packages, instead of in the script doing "sudo password apt get" for each one, is there a way to declare the whole script a sudo?
[06:22] <tech1> and when on some of them there is a Y/N confirmation prompt, will that confirmation be redirected to the terminal i run the script from? or how could i automaticaly make the script say Yes
[06:23] <trijntje> tech1: apt-get install package -y
[06:23] <tech1> ill try that thanks
[06:23] <trijntje> and I think sudo has a memory of 15 min I think, so if the script runs for a few minutes it should be no problem
[06:23] <tech1> ahhh i see. thats good to know thanks :)
[06:24] <ParkerR> What's the "Addition drivers" program name if I were to start it from terminal?
[06:24] <ParkerR> *Additional
[06:24] <trijntje> jockey
[06:24] <ParkerR> Thanks
[06:25] <Maccer> Pummel:  I really recommend you check out that debian page though, can I see a copy of git-core though?
[06:27] <Pummel> Maccer:  There is no more error of git-core.  You still want me to search for it and past it?
[06:27] <Pummel> of = for
[06:27] <Maccer> Oh, nah that's alright.  What about upgrading?
[06:27] <Pummel> is that in the link you gave me?  I'm going to go read that now
[06:28] <icequeen> Hi, does anyone here have experience with installing the BURG bootloader?
[06:28] <oldwzd> grub?
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, yes
[06:30] <icequeen> oh hey wilee-nilee! by the way, I never got the chance to thank you for your extraordinarily help and advice the other day. everything went very well!
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, now problem, did you install burg and it is not showing?
[06:31] <icequeen> when I boot up my computer, grub pops up and I can choose between windows and ubuntu. i just tried to install burg but grub still pops up [wilee-nilee]
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> iceq you have to load it to the mbr sudo burg-install /dev/sdX  X is the HD make sure that is correct sudo fdisk -l will identify the HD no partiton numbers just the sdX
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, so it could be sda or sdb...etc depending on how many HD's you have.
[06:33] <luftikuss> icequeen, '~$ mount'. Look for a single ' / '.
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, I missed your full nick on the instructions, oops.
[06:34] <icequeen> wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140571/
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, so make sure it is installed since you wil be over writing the mbr.  sudo burg-install /dev/sdb  the run sudo update-burg   and the partition list should show.
[06:36] <yam_> hey how an i send private message in forums chat?
[06:37] <icequeen> wilee-nilee command not found
[06:37] <icequeen> wilee-nilee i've been trying with the Burg manager
[06:37] <nothingspecial> do you mean the web chat interface yam_
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, which one the install is a standard command if you were loading grub to the mbr it would be sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[06:38] <icequeen> "sudo: burg-install: command not found"
[06:39] <yam_> I want to send a message to specific person who is online in forum. dont like to write whole the conversation in public chat.
[06:39] <nothingspecial> send a private message on the forums yam_ by right clicking the username or do you want to do it in irc
[06:40] <icequeen> "sudo: burg-install: command not found (wilee-nilee)
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, you running this in the terminal with the burg manager closed.
[06:41] <icequeen> wilee-nilee yes
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, I have to wonder if you have burg actual installed run sudo apt-get install burg
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> actually*
[06:42] <yam_> nothingspecial  cant see any option for private messageing in right click
[06:44] <nothingspecial> in irc you would type /msg whoever but most people don't like pms and might ignore them. You should ask first.
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, here is what I have installed from synaptic
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/224156
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, my burg setup gets loaded by adding it from a multi loader usb loader so I'm not sure what is in the repos.
[06:46] <icequeen> wilee-nilee I will reboot
[06:47] <voldyman> i ran this command by mistake http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR now when ubuntu loads it shows kernel panic message.
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, did you load it and get the grub.cfg partition list with the update?
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> burg list that is doh
[06:50] <icequeen> wilee-nilee how do you know it's sdb and not sda?
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, Your link showed linux in the sdb HD.
[06:51] <theadmin> Alright, I have a *big* problem here: FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Invalid argument
[06:51] <theadmin> It used to work until today morning -_-
[06:51] <theadmin> And without it my wireless ain't working.
[06:51] <voldyman> guys can any one help. i ran http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR by mistake
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, from your link /dev/sdb2   *        2048   943218687   471608320   83  Linux  sdb is the HD sdb1 is the partition, you are just goint to load the HD sdb
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> going*
[06:55] <voldyman> guys i cant run ubuntu cuz i ran `sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | head -n -1) --assume-yes` by mistake
[06:56] <theadmin> !danger
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, you might need to install the burg ppa to get all the packages for 12.04
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/burg
[06:56] <theadmin> voldyman: Basically, you removed your kernel. Chroot into your install from a livecd and reinstall it.
[06:58] <linuse> hey there
[06:58] <theadmin> Ugh. Any help with broadcom's "wl" module not loading?
[06:58] <linuse> my desktop just burnt
[06:58] <theadmin> It's installed from the bcmwl-kernel-source package.
[06:58] <linuse> I just got the hard drive
[06:58] <linuse> O was wondering if I could get the mac address from the log file?
[06:58] <linuse> I had ubuntu jaunty on it
[06:59] <linuse> anyone know if the mac address could be anywhere?
[07:00] <trijntje> linuse: you are not making sense, what mac adress? You were talking about your harddisk before
[07:00] <Hx12021> hey
[07:00] <linuse> well I have the hard drive of the machine
[07:01] <linuse> and I wanna get the mac address of the machine from the drive
[07:01] <linuse> I was wondering if it could be anywhere on the drive?
[07:01] <Hx12021> i need some help with my new ubuntu installation
[07:01] <trijntje> linuse: computers done have a mac adres, do you mean the mac adres of the internet card?
[07:01] <Hack_SYP> hello
[07:01] <Hx12021> heyyy
[07:01] <linuse> yeah the eth1
[07:01] <linuse> the computer is burnt
[07:02] <linuse> so the drive is my only hope
[07:02] <Hack_SYP> ´ó¼ÒºÃ
[07:02] <Hx12021> anyone here to have a fun chat?
[07:02] <trijntje> linuse: why do you need to know the mac adres? You could look in the logs of your router
[07:02] <Hack_SYP> yeah
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Hx12021, chat is in #ubuntu-oftopic
[07:02] <theadmin> I'll try rebooting...
[07:02] <Hx12021> ohh sorryyy
[07:03] <linuse> I dont have any router it was plug on a large network
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <linuse> and it was a while ago
[07:03] <Hx12021> hey is it safe to chat in irc channels?
[07:03] <Hack_SYP> ok Can I see the speech
[07:04] <linuse> trijntje: do you know any log that could contain the eth1 mac address?
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Hx12021, some yes this is support
[07:04] <Hack_SYP> oh please
[07:05] <Hack_SYP> wilee-nilee   i
[07:05] <Hack_SYP> i need some help
[07:05] <Hx12021> what do u wanna know ?
[07:05] <linuse> dmesg maybe?
[07:05] <Benkinooby> hi, where can i get advice if i want to buy a new desktop computer for ubuntu? (to avoid driver or compability issues)
[07:05] <Josh3573458347> Can someone help me install xubuntu on my laptop?
[07:05] <trijntje> linuse: i don't know, sorry. Try some of the files in /var/log
[07:06] <Josh3573458347> It has to be the 64 bit version
[07:06] <Josh3573458347> Hello?
[07:07] <Hack_SYP> hello
[07:07] <Hx12021> hey benkinooby.as far as i know.most of the hardware are supported in ubuntu
[07:07] <Hack_SYP> josh3573
[07:07] <Hx12021> just make sure you avoid prolink modems
[07:07] <Josh3573458347> Can you help ,e
[07:07] <Benkinooby> Hx12021, that's the theory :P
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, here is the ubuntu install wiki xubuntu is the same.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:07] <Josh3573458347> I need help to put Xubuntu on my laptop
[07:08] <Josh3573458347> Can someone guide me through how you do it?
[07:08] <Hack_SYP> i can Try to help you
[07:08] <Josh3573458347> Ok
[07:08] <Hx12021> describe more about the purpose of purchasing the new machine
[07:09] <Hack_SYP> Hx12021
[07:09] <Hack_SYP> can you seek my speak
[07:10] <chemick> how to use nmap to find open ports?
[07:10] <Hx12021> Avoid intel graphic cards,prolink modems,and some old models of canon printers
[07:11] <Hack_SYP> oh no no no
[07:11] <Hx12021> y not?
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> chemick, try #nmap
[07:12] <chemick> wilee-nilee thx
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> chemick, no problem small channel but it is their baby.
[07:14] <peetaur2> chemick: I would point you to "man nmap" rather than a channel.
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, trying to guide someone through a install can turn into a long drawn out affair, do you have whatever OS that is on there completely backed up like a clone?
[07:15] <Josh3573458347> Can someone help me?
[07:15] <Josh3573458347> Is there anyone here?
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> Hello???
[07:16]  * peetaur2 is not here
[07:16] <theadmin> Ugh. Why the heck was the backports repo enabled by default on Kubuntu?!
[07:16] <peetaur2> !ask
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, look above your last post
[07:16] <theadmin> I think that's why broadcom broke..
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> oh sorry
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> I need help to put xubuntu on my laptop
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> it has to be through a flash drive cause my disc drive is broken
[07:17] <dvolker> what's an acceptable sysadmin salary for someone coming from the windows side of things?
[07:17] <theadmin> dvolker: That's offtopic
[07:17] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: There's a guide on ubuntu.com for that.
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, do you have whatever OS that is on the computer now completely backed up, preferably a clone?
[07:17] <Josh3573458347> It had windows xp but its gone now
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> I did something wromg and put unbuntu server on it
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, so all you want and need is xubuntu
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> Yea
[07:18] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Why should that be wrong?
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> Because i want the os
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> not server
[07:18] <bekks> "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> huh?
[07:19] <bekks> One command, and you'll get xubuntu.
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, boot a xubuntu disc hit instal and follow the instructions, I would open the gparted partitioner before hitting the install and just delete any partitions first.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> i cant boot with a disc
[07:19] <bekks> wilee-nilee: No need for reinstalling.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> it has to be with a usb drive
[07:19] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Log in, and issue that command.
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> bekks, ?
[07:19] <peetaur2> Josh3573458347: as bekks implies, the only differences between xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu server, etc. are packages selected.
[07:19] <bekks> wilee-nilee: HE has to issue ONE command to get xubuntu.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> i tryed to select the right package
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, then boot the usb and do the same
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> it sends me back to the server
[07:20] <theadmin> ugh. Is there any channel for *normal* Ubuntu problems instead of this newbie stuff -_-
[07:20] <theadmin> Because I'm in a rush
[07:20] <peetaur2> theadmin:  :D
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> sorry -_-
[07:20] <bekks> Josh3573458347: What does "it sends me back" mean?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> bekks, basically .
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> Like when i try to reinstall the whole thing
[07:20] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Did you log in with the user you created, and issued the command I gave you?
[07:20] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: Basically, log in and run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> i dont know how to log in though
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> it never works
[07:21] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: Uh, when you boot it displays something along the lines of "HOSTNAME login: ", just type your username in
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> bekks, The user was asking for a install I have no info about a install already, but thanks for sharing.
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> It doesnt say host name
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> it says the name of my wifi network
[07:22] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: It can say whatever.
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> I type in my username though
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> and it doesnt work
[07:22] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Then you are typing the wrong password.
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> it doesnt let me type a password in
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> after i type my username in it doesnt let me type a password in
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> and after a few secs it says incorrect
[07:23] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: It won't show anything, it does let you type it in.
[07:23] <bekks> After booting your computer - can you please take a screenshot with your mobile phone or something?
[07:23] <caixa> what is Wayland System Compositor
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> bekks ok
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> how do i send it to you
[07:23] <bekks> By uploading it somewhere.
[07:24] <Meikel> Good Morning guys ! You can say me a Free Anti Viren Programm ?
[07:24] <Josh3573458347> omg everythings fucked up
[07:24] <theadmin> !antivirus | Meikel
[07:24] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Please watch your language.
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> !virus | Meikel
[07:25] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: You're late.
[07:25] <theadmin> :P
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I'm only slighly watching the channel. hehe
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> slightly*
[07:26] <Josh3573458347> ok so when i turn my computer on it goes to a black screen
[07:26] <theadmin> Either way, I shall repeat again: broadcom-wl won't load. I have no idea how to install the broadcom-sta package either.
[07:28] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[07:28] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Wish it was so simple, it doesn't auto-build the module -_-
[07:29] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, You on 12.04
[07:30] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Yes
[07:30] <gr33n7007h> why dont you use b43 drivers
[07:30] <Meikel> One question guys. I take my USB-HDD and try to start it. Than it only make "Piep, Piep, Piep,...." Somebody know why ? There are all my Pictures on :/
[07:30] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Because, well, they won't load
[07:32] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140622/
[07:34] <gr33n7007h> mmmm.....
[07:35] <icequeen> I am having big trouble installing burg
[07:36] <theadmin> icequeen: And just what exactly is wrong with GRUB?
[07:37] <icequeen> I'm getting this error when I'm trying to install BURG http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140625/
[07:37] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: So any idea? I'm desperate to get this working... I'm thinking to reinstall but this is a 64-bit system and so the !clone command ubottu provides won't work, and I hardly remember what I installed anymore
[07:38] <icequeen> Can anyone help me install BURG?
[07:38] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, got me!
[07:38] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: ?
[07:38] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, beyond me
[07:39] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Eh, I see... Bwah. Well, I'll reinstall, just gotta backup my /home somewhere
[07:40] <FishFace> I don't think this is fixable. 12.04. Did 395 updates. I was always at 64 bit. Now it shows 32 bit. Any ideas?
[07:42] <peetaur2> FishFace: Where does it show 32? What does uname -a tell you?
[07:42] <FishFace> peetaur: I cant do it now. Not on the OS. System Info shows that.
[07:42] <FishFace> The GUI
[07:42] <FishFace> But I will do uname when I boot to it
[07:43] <peetaur2> can you look at the disks?
[07:43] <theadmin> FishFace: Did you install a 32-bit kernel accidentally?
[07:44] <FishFace> theadmin: Possibly. I just went with the flow on the updates that was provided.
[07:44] <FishFace> Thing is now, it drags incredibly slow also.
[07:44] <theadmin> FishFace: Hm, then that wasn't supposed to happen
[07:44] <crimsonmane> as far as i know, updating does not change your kernel. you have to do that specifically
[07:44] <theadmin> Oh well, I'm off to reinstall.
[07:45] <FishFace> crimsonmane: Umm hmm. Well, it wasnt intentional. I didnt read all the 395 updates. Just let it ride.
[07:46] <FishFace> peetaur: Will ext2fsd let me view what you ask?
[07:47] <peetaur2> FishFace: is that a windows thing? if so, I would not trust it unless you've tested it. It might damage the file system.
[07:47] <peetaur2> I would only trust it if it has a "read only" option
[07:48] <peetaur2> or if the overwhelming opinion from its users is that it is safe no matter what windows version you have.
[07:49] <crimsonmane> FishFace: kernel upgrades do not show up in those updates.
[07:49] <crimsonmane> that's all i'm sayin
[07:49] <Guest9236> Creative Live! Cam Voice not recognized
[07:49] <FishFace> I see. I'm pretty sure I saw the kernel update wizz by. But maybe not. I'll boot to it now and see if I can land back in the chat
[07:50] <crimsonmane> i suppose i could be wrong
[07:50] <crimsonmane> FishFace: boot and hold shift to enter the kernel selection
[07:50] <FishFace> OK. Brb and I'll do the uname thing
[07:50] <FishFace> Will do
[07:50] <crimsonmane> you'll see how many kernels there are.
[07:50] <FishFace> k
[07:50] <ininin> hmm
[07:52] <ininin> hmm
[07:53] <suluckypenn> hello
[07:53] <suluckypenn> I am new in ubuntnu
[07:53] <ql> me too
[07:54] <suluckypenn> my english is poor
[07:54] <ql> Are you  programmer?
[07:54] <suluckypenn> no
[07:55] <suluckypenn> I just interesting in linux
[07:56] <FishFace> 32 bit here ;)
[07:56] <suluckypenn> where are you from ?
[07:56] <suluckypenn> friend
[07:57] <FishFace> uname -a shows 32 bit
[07:57] <ql> ChongQing
[07:57] <suluckypenn> 我是广东的，呵呵
[07:57] <FishFace> Also. I had the first option (with shift) to 3.20-29. I picked 3.20-24 which leaves me in the same state.
[07:58] <TJ-> FishFace: I missed it earlier; what's the problem you're facing?
[07:58] <FishFace> TJ-, 395 updates yesterday. I was 64 bit. Now its showing 32 bit and running slower than ever
[07:59] <TJ-> FishFace: wow! Is that 12.04 ?
[07:59] <FishFace> Yes. LTS.
[08:00] <TJ-> FishFace: Are you able to pastebin some text for me?
[08:00] <FishFace> Nothing here I would lose is critical mind you. I could just start over again. The thing is would this happen again with massive updates?
[08:00] <FishFace> TJ-, Sure
[08:02] <TJ-> FishFace: Do "cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit"  ... it'll give you the link to the pastebin it has been sent to; just copy that link to here
[08:03] <FishFace> Whoops. patebinit not installed. But I can copy it in anyway to the site
[08:04] <jddebug> I just did updates for 12.04 and now I can't see any of my apps. Can't even find terminal in the Dash Home when doing a search
[08:04] <TJ-> FishFace: strange. I thought it was installed by default - its well worth it. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[08:05] <trijntje> jddebug: what icons do you see in the bottom of the dash window?
[08:06] <FishFace> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140648/
[08:06] <jddebug> Home, ruler pencil, paper music and video.  Wait, just did a second restart and the apps have returned.
[08:06] <icequeen> Hi, how can I remove Grub and/or Burg from a hard drive?
[08:06] <jddebug> Thats odd
[08:06] <icequeen> I accidentally installed it on the wrong one
[08:07] <TJ-> FishFace: thanks, I just wanted to confirm the CPU was 64-bit ;) ... now ... can you pastebin the file "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" please?
[08:07] <trijntje> jddebug: sometimes if you begin typing before all the lenses (programs behind the icons) have loaded you won't find anything. This only happens the first time you start the dash afaik
[08:07] <icequeen> Well, acually, the problem is Burg boots up but I can't access Windows
[08:08] <jddebug> trijntje, thanks. Hope it doesn't happen again then.
[08:08] <FishFace> TJ-, bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied
[08:08] <FishFace> You are trying to send an empty document
[08:08] <bekks> icequeen: There is no way to "uninstall" the MBR. The only way to fix it is to reinstall the correct bootloader to the correct MBR.
[08:09] <TJ-> FishFace: are you trying to open it in an editor? Only root has write privileges. You should be able to read the file using, for example, "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg"  ... if you have pastebinit installed now, you could simply do "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit"
[08:09] <FishFace> I'll just paste it in
[08:10] <icequeen> bekks how do i do  that?
[08:10] <FishFace> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140661/
[08:15] <icequeen> bekks what do i do?
[08:15] <TJ-> FishFace: Looking at the list of previously installed kernels, that PC has always had 32-bit kernel's installed. You can see that that in the "PAE" (Processor Address Extensions - allows 32-bit to access more than 4GB of RAM) part of several entries. The non-PAE entries could be true 64-bit kernels or be non-PAE 32-bit... I want to check locally if there is an easy way to determine if those kernels are 64-bit or not. Whilst I do that, can you pastebin the file "/var/l
[08:15] <TJ-> og/apt/history.log" ?
[08:15] <savio> what is all gnome 3 ,gnome shell unity can anyone simplify for me
[08:16] <FishFace> OK
[08:16] <savio> is gnome is graphical interface for linux
[08:16] <savio> why so diversion
[08:17] <cherva> how can I see my ssh host rsa key in encrypted variant ( like in the known hosts file ) so I can automate the adding of my server to the pc's knownhosts file
[08:18] <FishFace> TJ-, Can't find l in /var
[08:18] <TJ-> FishFace: OK, I've found an easy way to determine the 64-bit or not of a kernel install. run this at a command line: "for f in /boot/config*; do echo -e "$f\n$(head  $f)\n"; done"
[08:18] <TJ-> FishFace: oops, the line split: it should have been "/var/log/apt/history.log"
[08:19] <TJ-> FishFace: FYI that 'history.log' is the record of updates applied... might give us a clue what happened
[08:19] <FishFace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140670/
[08:20] <TJ-> FishFace: OK, first thing... that pastebin confirms that PC does not have a 64-bit kernel installation. What it does have is 32-bit kernels with PAE to address more than 4GB of RAM
[08:20] <FishFace> Hmmmm
[08:21] <Benkinooby> hi i have problems with my system time. ntp is up and running but here is the strange thing: adjust time @ 8:04, offset is 0.5ms, adjust time @ 9:51 offset is 0.4ms adjust time at 10:18 offset is 600 seconds - what?! how can this happen?
[08:21] <TJ-> FishFace: Now, what may have happened is, after the update the default booting kernel ended up being one that doesn't support PAE rather than previously when the default kernel was PAE. We can fix that I think
[08:21] <FishFace> TJ-, Excellent
[08:22] <bekks> Benkinooby: Nothing to worry about.
[08:22] <Benkinooby> bekks, yes, because my system time wanders off as it wishes
[08:22] <bekks> Benkinooby: Then just use an NTP server and you'll be fine.
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, my system time is sometimes exact, sometimes few minutes fast, sometimes several hours late and all that within one day
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, i do
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, at least i think i do
[08:23] <bekks> Benkinooby: Then check it :)
[08:23] <TJ-> FishFace: The 'grub.cfg' file tells me that, in fact, that PC *is* booting into a PAE kernel (it defaults to entry 0 - the first - which is "/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic-pae")
[08:24] <TJ-> FishFace: So I think we need to revisit what you think the symptoms are - they may in fact be caused by something else entirely
[08:24] <FishFace> TJ-, Yep. That is where it goes without shift
[08:24] <Benkinooby> bekks, running "sudo  time-admin" it says "configuration: keep synced with internet server"
[08:24] <bekks> when the time difference is too high, or the jitter is too high - constantly - you are better of to run "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" on a regular base, like every hour.
[08:24] <bekks> Benkinooby: Check wether you have a valid config for a running ntpd.
[08:26] <isotta> Hello, sorry use google translator I need help. I found myself installed (I think with the proposed updates) toolchain on ubuntu ppa r test. Since then I find myself installed ubuntu quantal 12.10 (but later appears as a guest 12.04) I can not view source software from the software center will add new ppa as apt to me by a series of errors. Sorry if I have dwelt. I do not want to reinstall everything. Maybe other u
[08:26] <isotta>   tries found themselves in this situation. Thanks for your attention. I'm Italian, I am writing to you because in the Italian channel not find any help
[08:26] <FishFace> TJ-, We don't have to kill a bunch of time on this. If it would be easier enough to install over again that would be fine. I might add that my 2nd screen is off now also. That I can fix if needed.
[08:26] <savio> anyone
[08:27] <TJ-> FishFace: Well if you're OK to reinstall. I'd suggest if you want 64-bit to make sure you get the 'amd64' ISO image
[08:27] <Benkinooby> bekks, how can i see if my cconfiguration is valid
[08:27] <kv> hi
[08:28] <Benkinooby> bekks, that's my config http://pastebin.com/73Qspsnb
[08:28] <FishFace> TJ-, I think that might save us a bunch of time. I will go get the ISO again.
[08:29] <FishFace> TJ-, And I will double check the amd64. The DVD i have now that is what I wrote on it.
[08:29] <TJ-> FishFace: OK ... good luck... shout us again if you have issues :)
[08:30] <FishFace> TJ-, Thanks bud. I will let you know if it messes up again :)
[08:30] <Benkinooby> isotta, that is your mothertounge?
[08:30] <bekks> Benkinooby: As you can seem there is no NTP server configured - so you are not using one.
[08:31] <Benkinooby> bekks, hm, that explains stuff :P
[08:31] <Benkinooby> bekks, but what about this line? 'server ntp.ubuntu.com'
[08:31] <isotta> no
[08:32] <bekks> Benkinooby: I'd not rely on any server not part of the NTP project :) https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[08:32] <Benkinooby> isotta, what is your mothertongue?
[08:32] <isotta> italian
[08:33] <Benkinooby> !taly
[08:33] <Benkinooby> !italy
[08:33] <isotta> yes
[08:33] <Benkinooby> isotta, go to #ubuntu-it
[08:33] <bekks> Benkinooby: Stop it.
[08:34] <isotta> ok
[08:34] <bekks> Benkinooby: He told us, that he got no answer there.
[08:34] <xiambax> Whats the latest version of ubuntu i can run on ppc?
[08:34] <Benkinooby> bekks, oh sorry, didn't see that
[08:34] <bekks> Benkinooby: It was part of his first message.
[08:35] <cherva> can ssh-keygen hash a hostname from stdin and print it to stdout
[08:35] <bekks> cherva: what are you really trying to do?
[08:35] <minimec> xiambax: ubuntu 12.10 Alpha3 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:36] <xiambax> Its for an iMac g4 with 500mb ram
[08:36] <xiambax> Think it would run ok?
[08:36] <bekks> xiambax: 12.04 should run on PPC.
[08:36] <bekks> xiambax: 12.10 isnt released yet, since it is in alpha status.
[08:36] <xiambax> is there ppc for current?
[08:37] <bekks> Sure.
[08:37] <minimec> xiambax: 500mb Ram is 'just enough'. I would not use the unity interface as default desktop environment. It would 'eat' half of your RAM.
[08:37] <johnf> Does anyone know the magic incantations to do a kickstart install using EFI. I've got it booting and installing but I can't work out the partitioning to install it creates a /boot/efi dir
[08:37] <bekks> xiambax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[08:37] <xiambax> I wonder if i should choose a smaller distro
[08:37] <xiambax> something that will run with more speed and i could use for browsing etc
[08:38] <bekks> xiambax: Just use lubuntu or xubuntu.
[08:38] <bekks> xiambax: On a G3 there is no talking about "more speed" :)
[08:38] <Benkinooby> bekks, ok, i followed the guide
[08:38] <cherva> bekks, I want to give ssh-keygen a host and I want it hashed and ready for the knownhosts file not making it then hashing it and deleting the .old file or ssh-keygen uses the rsa public key to hash the host name ?
[08:38] <xiambax> g4
[08:38] <xiambax> lol
[08:38] <Benkinooby> bekks, now ntp will peridoically reset my system time... what happens when i don't have internet connection?
[08:39] <bekks> Benkinooby: Your clock will start wandering again, of course.
[08:39] <bekks> cherva: Sorry, I still dont understand what you are trying to achieve and why.
[08:41] <Benkinooby> bekks, hm... strange thing is that i never noticed time problems... but suddenly (~3 weeks ago) my system clock started going very wrong - on a random basis... so i thought some of these drift files might be misconfgured (since they will be used even without internet i guess)
[08:41] <Benkinooby> bekks, do you know how to interpret drift files?
[08:41] <cherva> bekks, if I type this ssh-keygen -H -f /path/to/known_hosts it finds plain text hostnames and hashes them so they are not readable I want the same but to give ssh-keygen the hostname from stdin or from a parameter
[08:41] <bekks> Benkinooby: You cant misconfigure drift files. They exist, or they dont.
[08:42] <bekks> cherva: ssh-keygen -F hostname
[08:42] <Benkinooby> bekks, if i am manually setting the time to a wrong time... won't that confuse the info in the drift files?
[08:43] <bekks> Benkinooby: Sure. Then the drift file gets invalid, NTP gets the "real time" but will not adjust your time directly, because of the drift being to high - instead NTP will slowly adjust the time.
[08:43] <ghano> this is the message i got for updating some extras files:Failure to download extra data filesName-ar.UTF-8:
[08:44] <cherva> bekks, I don't want to find them in the file I want to make them ... never mind I will make the known_hosts file and use the -H -f options
[08:44] <idletask> Hello
[08:44] <idletask> 12.04: how do I make grub display the menu at boot time?
[08:45] <Benkinooby> bekks, so in that case i'll just wait until ntpd "readjusted" the drift file?
[08:45] <bekks> idletask: By editing the /etc/default/grub file
[08:45] <bekks> !grub2 | idletask
[08:45] <bekks> Benkinooby: Thats what NTP is about.
[08:45] <Benkinooby> bekks, ok, thank you for your time and patience
[08:46] <bekks> Benkinooby: Using NTP, dont expect sudden wonders, but a time-consuming process of changig your clock nearly unnoticed.
[08:49] <Bowbles> is there a reason why my 12.04 install would use mx.archive.ubuntu.org by default in sources file?
[08:49] <Bowbles> I am in the US, not in Mexico, or am I misunderstanding?
[08:51] <TJ-> Bowbles: I think there's a test to find the 'best' archive closest/fastest to you
[08:52] <numberto> Hi guys, I have created a adhoc wifi connection btw my laptop and netbook (both ubuntu 12.04). But now I need to access my windows (netbook is dualboot) partition on netbook from laptop. Do I have to make all partition shared, or is there any other way?
[08:52] <Bowbles> TJ-: do you know the command?
[08:53] <TJ-> Bowbles: It's internal to the installer, I beleive
[08:57] <chroot__> hi, i can use add-apt-repository in ubuntu?
[08:57] <chroot__> how can i install it
[08:58] <numberto> Hi guys, I have created a adhoc wifi connection btw my laptop and netbook (both ubuntu 12.04). But now I need to access my windows (netbook is dualboot) partition on netbook from laptop. Do I have to make all partition shared, or is there any other way?
[09:03] <ghano> this is the message i got for updating some extras files:Failure to download extra data filesName-ar.UTF-8:
[09:06] <Josh8823832> Lol
[09:06] <Falmerik> Does one recieve any kind of software feature/bug fixing upgrades other that security ones while using the current Ubuntu LTS? Specifically: There a some minor usability bugs in Liferea. Is my only chance to get rid of them to use a PPA?
[09:07] <bestdnd> how to call System Monitor from command prompt?
[09:08] <minimec> gnome-system-monitor
[09:10] <MarkusH> Falmerik: most likely, yes.
[09:11] <MarkusH> Falmerik: releases normally get security fixes only.
[09:12] <Falmerik> MarkusH: So, Ubuntu does not handle updates the way Fedora does it. Darn, what a pity.
[09:12] <Falmerik> Alright, thanks for the info.
[09:12] <MarkusH> Falmerik: I don't know how Fedora handles update. I don't use it.
[09:14] <idletask> bekks: OK, thanks, I have to reboot, so I'll see if that works!
[09:14] <bestdnd> when starting chromuim, firefox or system monitor, they start and close before showing gui.  when running system monitor from command line, it tells me it terminates after "Glib::FileError"
[09:17] <Bowbles> I am having an issue where when I log into ubuntu 12.04, it immedietly kicks me out
[09:17] <Bowbles> I can log into the guest account without issues
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: any error messages?  and can you log in via recovery mode?
[09:18] <Bowbles> I have not been able to identify any changes made which would affect this, other than possibly updating packages via apt
[09:19] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: apt-update shouldn't effect you thusly unless, perhaps, an interrupted update?
[09:19] <Bowbles> cfhowlett: gnome-settings-daemon fatal io error 11 in the ~/.xsession-errors
[09:20] <Bowbles> seems kind of similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1934417
[09:20] <muzzy> hi there
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: try logging in via recovery then xstart (startx?)
[09:20] <cfhowlett> muzzy: greetings
[09:20] <minimec> bestdnd: Could you try to open them in a 'guest session'? You could have a problem with your user configuration.
[09:21] <muzzy> was wondering if you could please ask a question  it might be simpe answer for you guys  but it has been doing my head in
[09:21] <cfhowlett> muzzy: ask away with details for best results
[09:21] <muzzy> ok
[09:21] <muzzy> thankyou
[09:22] <Bowbles> cfhowlett: do I need to go into recovery? I just switched terminals and logged in via command line
[09:23] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: once in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:23] <muzzy> I am trying to raise the APT limit on my iphone 4
[09:23] <bekks> muzzy: Whats an APT limit on an iphone?
[09:23] <Bowbles> cfhowlett: tried that before talking to you
[09:23] <muzzy> Wow, you exceeded the number of package names this APT is capable of.
[09:24] <muzzy> it is a jailbroken iphone
[09:24] <cfhowlett> muzzy: no idea how this relates to ubuntu?
[09:24] <muzzy> the cache for cydia
[09:24] <cfhowlett> muzzy: iphone not supported here.
[09:24] <muzzy> i am after terminal commands
[09:24] <muzzy> ok
[09:25] <muzzy> could you reccomend where i could go
[09:25] <cfhowlett> muzzy: google is your friend "jailbreak" and such similar terms.
[09:25] <bazhang> !alis | muzzy
[09:25] <muzzy> tried that  they are fererring to airectory wehich does not exist
[09:25] <muzzy> ok  i will see
[09:26] <muzzy> thankyou  asnyway  my friend
[09:26] <cfhowlett> muzzy: best of luck
[09:26] <muzzy> i appreciate your time
[09:27] <mido> hi
[09:27] <cfhowlett> mido: greetings
[09:27] <mido> hi
[09:27] <Kihokki> Hello there! Can anyone help me with Synaptics touchpad? The horizontal speed of touchpad is much slower than vertical. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28675/change-touchpad-horizontal-and-vertical-acceleration-sensitivity I find this answer working, but it only works in log in screen.
[09:31] <Bowbles> cfhowlett: any other ideas?
[09:31] <Bowbles> I don't seem to have the xstart command, even when I sudo to root
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: sorry man.  every time I've seen this, a terminal update has fixed.  could be you're dealing with a different cause than me.  ask in this channel and ubuntu forums.
[09:33] <Bowbles> cfhowlett: thanks much, will continue to look into it
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Bowbles: best of luck.
[09:38] <mehdy> hey
[09:38] <FireSh3ll> hello
[09:39] <cfhowlett> mehdy|FireSh311: greetings
[09:39] <FireSh3ll> cfhowlett:greetings to you too :)
[09:39] <FireSh3ll> ssup ?
[09:40] <ryan1995> Hi
[09:40] <FireSh3ll> ssup
[09:40] <FireSh3ll> ryan1995
[09:40] <cfhowlett> ryan1995: greetings
[09:40] <ryan1995> Nm just got Ubunutu on my computer lol
[09:41] <FireSh3ll> @ryan1995: congrats
[09:41] <FireSh3ll> mate :)
[09:41] <ryan1995> This is way better then windows xp
[09:41] <FireSh3ll> yes it is !
[09:41] <FireSh3ll> can anyone help me with metasploit ???
[09:41] <FireSh3ll> btw can anyone help me with metasploit ???
[09:41] <ryan1995> Ș)
[09:42] <ryan1995> do you know how to synch your keyboard with this cause some of the keys are off?
[09:42] <FireSh3ll> can anyone help me with metasploit ???
[09:42] <ql> 有愿意说中文的吗？
[09:43] <savio> FireSh3ll, this is  not  metasploit support channel
[09:43] <ryan1995> Savio
[09:43] <savio> goto #metasploit
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-jp|ql
[09:43] <ryan1995> Do you know how I can sync my keyboard cause some of the keys are off
[09:43] <savio> ryan1995, ?
[09:44] <ryan1995> I just put xubuntu on my computer and got rid of windows xp
[09:44] <ghano> hi guys
[09:44] <ryan1995> and some of the keys on the keyboard arent working right
[09:44] <ghano> can I lock a file on the desktop
[09:44] <cfhowlett> ghano: greetings
[09:44] <ghano> good morning
[09:44] <ghano> all
[09:44] <cfhowlett> ghano: lock as in encrypt/read/write?
[09:45] <ryan1995> can someone help me?
[09:45] <ghano> yes
[09:45] <ryan1995> i need help
[09:45] <ghano> even to see by others
[09:45] <cfhowlett> ryan1995: are your keys physically present and just not acting correctly?
[09:45] <savio> ryan1995, which laptop
[09:45] <FishFace> ryan1995, Try going to the sidebar. All the way up top. Type in keyboard
[09:45] <ryan1995> ok
[09:46] <ryan1995> wait what sidebar
[09:46] <FishFace> ryan1995, Then go to Layout Settings
[09:46] <ql> no one chinese?
[09:46] <FishFace> ryan1995, Its on the left of the screen. Move mouse if it isn't
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-cn|ql
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !cn
[09:46] <luftikuss> !cn  ql
[09:46] <ryan1995> layout settings?:
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !cn|ql
[09:47] <FishFace> ryan1995, How far did you get?
[09:47] <mehdy> greeting all
[09:47] <mehdy> hey!
[09:47] <ryan1995> im kinda confused @fishface
[09:47] <cfhowlett> mehdy: we c u
[09:48] <FishFace> ryan1995, You know where your sidebar is? On the left of the screen?
[09:48] <ryan1995> the start menu?
[09:48] <FishFace> ryan1995, Dash Home. Again, do you see the side bar?
[09:48] <mehdy> i wanna talk to some1 expert of IRC
[09:48] <ryan1995> i think?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> mehdy: sorry.  all you get are the folks who are here.  ask your question.
[09:49] <mehdy> cuz i donno anything about it
[09:49] <mehdy> and iwanna learn
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> mehdy  the best way to learn is by using it
[09:50] <mehdy> and i am trying this way :p
[09:50] <FishFace> ryan1995, If you see the side bar, there are lots of icons. On the very top you should see a gray one that says Dash Home. Also, I guess we should ask you what version of Ubuntu you are using.
[09:50] <ryan1995> Im using xubuntu
[09:51] <ryan1995> The newest version i think
[09:51] <FishFace> ryan1995, Then someone else will have to help you out on the keyboard issue. I don't use xbuntu and not sure how it is laid out.
[09:51] <ryan1995> Is there someone here who can?
[09:51] <FishFace> Maybe. Be patient and ask again.
[09:51] <cfhowlett> ryan1995: essential information that is.  Settings/Keyboard/Layout/and I suspect Generic 105-key (intl) pc will fix your right up..
[09:52] <mehdy> rayan : what is your problem?
[09:52] <ryan1995> Oh thanks ȘD
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> mehdy  keep it in the channel, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[09:52] <ryan1995> mehdy
[09:52] <ryan1995> were you talking to me?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !who
[09:55] <mehdy> yes
[09:55] <user> hello :)
[09:55] <ryan1995> ț
[09:55] <ryan1995> șșș
[09:55] <user> Jest ktoś z Polski?
[09:55] <somersb3> hello. I am using supervisor manager and get NOEXEC error on script execution. +x is on the file, permissions is user.web, partiotion is mounter as default . What other steps I can do to trace the reason ?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !pl|user:
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> !pm| mehdy
[09:57] <ryan1995> Fixed my keyboard :D
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ryan1995: congrats.
[09:57] <ryan1995> :)
[09:57] <ryan1995> Lol
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> ryan1995  how did you do it? tell it to the channel, for future reference
[09:57] <mehdy> i wanna know what is IRC and how to work with?
[09:57] <adaminsull> [ ok ] Opening Config [/Users/adaminsull/.znc/configs/znc.conf]...
[09:57] <adaminsull> [ !! ] Binding to port [1987] on host [199.116.119.70]... [ Unable to bind ]
[09:57] <adaminsull> [ ** ] Unrecoverable config error.
[09:58] <adaminsull> ?
[09:58] <mehdy> i know this channel is about unutu
[09:58] <FloodBot1> adaminsull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <adaminsull> lol
[09:58] <mehdy> but where should i ask?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !paste|adaminsull
[09:58] <ryan1995> I went to settings, clicked on keyboard, went to layout, and changed they keyboard layout to English (US)/English (Macintosh)
[09:58] <adaminsull> I know but not worth it for 3 linea
[09:58] <adaminsull> lines
[09:58] <sofrel> what is the channel for developing new os
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !+1|sofrel:
[09:59] <adaminsull> Can u help me fix this
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|sofrel
[09:59] <ryan1995> Im so not looking foward to later
[09:59] <adaminsull> \???????????????????
[09:59] <ryan1995> ?
[10:00] <adaminsull> How do I fix the error binding to port
[10:00] <ryan1995> Idk im new to this os
[10:00] <adaminsull> well I use mac but on this for my irc server
[10:00] <ryan1995> oh i have a mac
[10:00] <c0ndu17> have you checked if anything else is using that port?
[10:01] <W4sp> adaminsull: What is your OS? /Users can be found on Mac OS X.
[10:01] <pozic> Where can I see what where the <prefix>.orig.tar.gz file came from? Thus, what is the upstream for a given package?
[10:02] <aharoon> how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution
[10:03] <W4sp> mehdy: Good starting points are http://freenode.net/ and the man pages or 'help file' for your IRC client.
[10:04] <W4sp> mehdy: Please consider #test on FreeNode to try something out with your IRC client.
[10:05] <aharoon> how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution
[10:05] <extor> If I have a container that's running centos with a valid conf file and all and I go into /vz/private/xxx and do an rm -rf ./* and then copy /vz/template/cache/ubuntu_x86_64.gz and untar it...will the new container be OK or do I need to make some tweaks since I changed distros?
[10:05] <martin__> hey guys, can sb help? I've just installed Xubuntu 12.04 but after first start up, there was a crash report. Graphic is very poor, icons are missing, no sound. I already upgrated the system but no change.
[10:06] <W4sp> adaminsull: I would check in 'Security' if your firewall allows it.
[10:06] <someguy> Could anyone give their opinion on which is more user friendly between mint 13 kde or kubuntu 12.04?
[10:06] <adaminsull> Where is that
[10:07] <cfhowlett> martin__: clean install or upgrade
[10:07] <martin__> someguy: I had kubuntu 12.04 and it looked perfect!
[10:08] <someguy> i'm trying to decide which is easiest for my brother to use
[10:08] <c0ndu17> martin__: you could try reinstall the graphcs drivers
[10:08] <cfhowlett> martin__: so installed xubuntu?  Y U NO just install xfce and keep kubuntu?
[10:08] <c0ndu17> see if the problems are unrelated
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !who
[10:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:09] <aharoon> could someone help me how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partition
[10:09] <martin__> cfhowlett: first I had clear install, first start up... after that I tried to restar my EEEpc- everything the same even the report. so I saw there are available updates, then I upgrated - no change after that
[10:11] <cfhowlett> martin__: missing icons & such suggest a graphics issue.  Settings or non-compatible gpu come to mind...
[10:12] <martin__> cfhowlett: hmmm, I've tried live USB and Xubuntu ran perfectly. Is there anything I can do? or do I have to install another distro
[10:13] <cfhowlett> martin__: clarify: you clean installed xubuntu?
[10:14] <sparklr> I installed tasksel and then install lamp-server, but when i do phpinfo();  , I dont get to see mysql. i also checked that php5-mysql is installed.
[10:15] <someguy> Could anyone give their opinion on which is more user friendly between mint 13 kde or kubuntu 12.04?
[10:16] <martin__> cfhowlett: how clean do u mean? 2 hours ago I had Kubuntu 12.04 but was heavy for my EEEpc, so I decided to install xubuntu. I've formated the partition and install there xubuntu. there is nothing but xubuntu a ist basic sw
[10:16] <NedMan74> i'm a noob and have been using ubuntu for a while now.. no probs usually
[10:17] <BankZ> Is there a way to get remove the orange theme from ubuntu?
[10:17] <BankZ> its really fungly
[10:17] <cfhowlett> martin__: clear and concise.  I'm going to suggest 2 options: reinstall kubuntu and pay particular attention to installing 3rd party drivers/codecs.  Also, consider the other "light" distro: lubuntu.
[10:17] <cfhowlett> BankZ: y remove?  just don't use.
[10:18] <BankZ> ok, change
[10:18] <cfhowlett> BankZ: in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:18] <BankZ> yeah
[10:18] <BankZ> im trying ubuntu again, need it to look cool
[10:18] <BankZ> ;)
[10:18] <cfhowlett> channel:  how to change ubuntu 12.04 theme???
[10:19] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[10:20] <BankZ> should that have posted a link?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> BankZ: i'm in ubuntustudio which uses xfce as a base.  Not familiar enough with default ubuntu to advise you.  ask in channel again how to change 12.04 theme
[10:20] <martin__> cfhowlett: I dont wanna kubuntu anymore. If I try reinstall Xubuntu and leave out the field of using 3rd party drivers/codecs? Might that help? I dont lik LXDE, I prefer XFCE, so maybe Linux Mint might be good for me, as well
[10:21] <cfhowlett> martin__: your choice.  in you reinstall, pay careful attention to what you select.  I'm pretty sure you should be able to configure a solution.  But first *you DID ensure you got a good iso with md5checksum* right?
[10:22] <aharoon> would someone help me i have a big problem here how to use xfsprogs to check and repair xfs partition with out losing data on it i couldnt mount that partiution
[10:23] <BankZ> channel:  how to change ubuntu 12.04 theme???
[10:24] <cfhowlett> BankZ: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K1XIUvGMPI
[10:24] <martin__> cfhowlett: i did not check the iso. Now I'm downloading it again and I will make live USB pen from the new downloaded ISO. In installation I will not choose the option to install 3rd party drivers/codecs
[10:24] <martin__> cfhowlett: how can I check the isto?
[10:24] <martin__> *iso
[10:24] <cfhowlett> martin__: so you checked the iso you downloaded previously and it's bad?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !checksum|martin_
[10:29] <opalepatrick> need to get a big screen notebook/laptop with linux - any good review comparison site - preferable european?
[10:32] <ininin> hmm
[10:34] <ininin> I just installed ubuntu and my second monitor won't work
[10:35] <martin__> cfhowlett: checksums are identical!
[10:35] <cfhowlett> martin__: means you got a good download.  Proceed as planned.
[10:37] <martin__> cfhowlett: OK, so there's no need to download it again... I'll try to reinstall it without 3rd stuff, thx
[10:37] <cfhowlett> martin__: best of luck
[10:37] <martin__> thx, i'll let u know how i did
[10:38] <Multiply> Is there an easy way to make wlan0 have higher priority than eth0, when it comes to internet connection? It seems it favors eth0 which is just a LAN, for everything. I'd like everything to go thru wlan0 instead.
[10:39] <Multiply> While still being able to connect to other local PCs, of course.
[10:41] <chris|> Multiply, yes, go to network-manager->eth0->edit connection->ipv4 settings-> routes, add your local networks and check the "only use for these networks" box
[10:41] <Multiply> chris|: Adding each PC or the gateway?
[10:42] <shaneloots> hey evryone i need some help i tried to install ubuntu through wubi but every time i try to boot into it it says "compleating ubuntu installation 3....2...1 the the screen goes black and my pc's fans all start to slowly speeed up
[10:42] <Multiply> chris|: I actually did tick the checkbox earlier, but nothing changed. (didn't know I had to add the local networks) - Now that I disabled eth0 and enabled it again, it seems to favor wlan0, without adding any networks.
[10:43] <Multiply> chris|: Well, I restarted the browser, and back to where I was before. I'll try to add the local networks
[10:45] <Multiply> chris|: Thanks. :) It seems to work for now.
[10:46] <chris|> Multiply, you're welcome
[10:47] <Calahan> Hi, I sorry maybe sombady could help me with tip. I cannot bring up network card. It says: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[10:48] <Calahan> Other than that i see it on lshw as RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet
[10:49] <Calahan> But not on ifconfig
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Calahan  it's a setting in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Calahan  type cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit and paste the url here
[10:50] <Calahan> ifup eth0  results in --> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0, how does /etc/network interfaces gona help me with htat?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Calahan  don't start with rejecting help or advice please
[10:51] <Calahan> i sorry i'll do pastebin
[10:53] <Calahan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140847/
[10:53] <Calahan> well there is auto i mean i had to ype it manualy
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Calahan  it says euto, not auto and it is inclomplet
[10:54] <Calahan> i know it is auto
[10:54] <Calahan> i just had to type it manualy since cant copy form pc which network isnt working
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> don't type manually, paste the outcome of the command
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ok
[10:54] <_TJ_> Calahan: For that device I found similar reports with a missing device. It says "The first problem was that the controller was not powering on with the rest of the system. If the device is turned off improperly it will not start again when you turn your computer back on. To fix this problem disconnect the power supply from the source for a few seconds. When you start your computer again it will work properly"
[10:54] <crlcan81> I'm using a earlier version of Ubuntu, 10.04, because of a combination of an alc887/888 realtek driver which my onboard audio card utilizes, and issies with Unity. I utilize glx-dock as my panel replacement, and can not get gnome-panel to keep shut off. Though I changed my gconfig editor to not load a panel, I'm not sure if I missed anything making sure gnome-panel is not even utilized in my system.
[10:54] <crlcan81> Is there any way of easily disabling it, for good?
[10:55] <Tom5> Hi
[10:55] <jiohdi> crlcan81, run something other than gnome like openbox
[10:55] <cfhowlett> Tom5: greetings
[10:56] <crlcan81> Otherwise it'll constantly restart gnome panel?
[10:56] <crlcan81> I followed any instructions listed and it was supposed to disable the reloading of gnome panel..
[10:56] <crlcan81> Any recommendations on a replacement for 10.04 Ubuntu?
[10:56] <jiohdi> why run gnome if you do not want a gnome panel?
[10:56] <jiohdi> crlcan81, xfce would be one
[10:56] <crlcan81> I am still figuring exactly what I DO want.
[10:56] <jiohdi> or lxde
[10:57] <crlcan81> it's been a while since I fully utilized 10.04 with what I had before.
[10:57] <Calahan> _TJ_ i have restareted many times PC it aint working anyhow. i try to google my problem but there isnt mutch that i cuold understand how to solve it sadly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607369
[10:57] <jiohdi> crlcan81, or you can try e17
[10:57] <jiohdi> or just openbox
[10:57] <crlcan81> I'm thinking I've tried all of those..
[10:57] <_TJ_> Calahan: When you restarted did you *physically* disconnect from the power socket for 30 seconds or so?
[10:58] <Calahan> i will pull the power cable off now
[10:58] <jiohdi> I have been round the track and after 2+ years I have settled on e17, fast light and customizable
[10:58] <_TJ_> Calahan: In many power supplies, even when you turn the PC off, it maintains a low-voltage stand-by (5 volts). That's why disconnecting can fix things you'd not expect!
[10:58] <crlcan81> I've used since 8.04 and up to 12.04, but because of the bug since 10.10 I've had dislike for anything 10.10 and up, but I might be in better luck soon.
[10:58] <crlcan81> got a possible replacement case.
[10:59] <jiohdi> crlcan81, macpup and bodhi are based on 10.4
[10:59] <Tom5> I would like to add csync-owncloud from quantal to precise, but I don't want just to add the repo and get updates for all packages. I would like to add every package from quantal to a whitelist that I want to install/update. Any hints for me?
[10:59] <crlcan81> I've tried.. god.. opensuse, and .. I forget what else, but that one that uses what's called cinniman now? and MATE?
[11:00] <crlcan81> basically I have a odd monitor choice, a HDTV, so certain resolutions don't work 'out of the box' for me.
[11:00] <crimsonmane> mint
[11:00] <crlcan81> and Ubuntu or OpenSUSE and their derivatives work out of the box.
[11:00] <crlcan81> I've done mINT too
[11:00] <crlcan81> Like I said, anything Ubuntu or SUSE derived.
[11:00] <crlcan81> I'd use Debian but I'd have to use a normal 'monitor' and tweak the desktop settings for the HDTV.
[11:01] <crlcan81> So it'll load the proper resolutions
[11:01]  * crlcan81 thinks he liked e17 out of all of em, if he remembers right.
[11:01] <jiohdi> crlcan81, have you tried lucid puppy or macpup?
[11:01] <crlcan81> ...huh?
[11:01] <cash> moi j'ai rien trier
[11:01]  * crlcan81 doesn't remember what's what anymore.
[11:01] <crlcan81> I know versions number.
[11:01] <cash> puis en fait parler french aussi
[11:01] <jiohdi> puppy linux is very light and runs completely in ram
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !fr|cash
[11:01] <crlcan81> wait.. I think I mighta tried puppy/mcpup before..
[11:02] <jiohdi> lucid and macpup both have ubuntu 10.4 support
[11:02] <cash> communauté d'accord si on parle aussi ma langue xd
[11:02] <DrManhattan> so far so good w ubuntu
[11:02] <crlcan81> 10.4? or 10.04? :P
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !fr|cash
[11:02] <cash> yeas
[11:02] <cash> yeah plus exactely
[11:03] <cash> et les commissaire j'aime bien que l'on discute avec moi aussi
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !fr|cash Je nais parlez pas francaise
[11:04] <cash> Je ne reconnais pas l'anglais si on ne reconnais pas ma langue d'origine!
[11:04] <cash> ok
[11:04] <cash> #ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <cfhowlett> cash /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:06] <cash> cool on parles enfin français
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> !fr| cash
[11:08] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm running ubuntu on a thinkpad from a usb stick
[11:08] <Hail_Spacecake> and the screen shut off
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Hail_Spacecake: fun times.
[11:08] <cash> Wow on ce calme
[11:08] <Hail_Spacecake> and doesn't respond to mouse/keyboard to turn on again
[11:08] <Hail_Spacecake> it's still running, I hear sounds when I adjust the volume
[11:08] <Hail_Spacecake> but I can't force the screen to unblank
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Hail_Spacecake: reboot.  change your suspend/hibernate/screensaver settings.
[11:09] <Hail_Spacecake> anything I can do now? I have a long-running process going
[11:09] <crlcan81> Well e17 wasn't available for 10.04 in the synaptic, so I got e16 instead, and blackbox.
[11:09] <Hail_Spacecake> that's why I stepped away fromthe machine to begin with
[11:09] <crlcan81> Gonna restart after they're done and I've done reading this, then I'll check em out
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Hail_Spacecake: assume the process is still, er, processing and reboot, oh, tomorrow?
[11:10] <_TJ_> Hail_Spacecake: If that PC has openssh-server installed, and you have another PC, you could connect to it over the network using SSH
[11:11] <Calahan> _TJ_ it is very super strange, but realtek network card started to work, also see it properly now in hardware list http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140876/      Thanks for help.
[11:12] <ssame> any one know how to optimize ubuntu ?
[11:12] <tiam> i installed gnome 3 with my nvidia card but it gives me error that Gnome 3 cannot be started
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> ssame  define "optimize"? what do you want to achieve?
[11:13] <_TJ_> Calahan: Great! :) It's not too strange... the card stores its state internally at shut-down... if it doesn't lose all power it won't restart correctly and read its stored state
[11:14] <blue112> Hello here
[11:15] <cfhowlett> blue112: greetings
[11:15] <blue112> I cant figure out how to change keyboard layout using gnome-shell on ubuntu 12.04
[11:15] <blue112> Ive found the option in the setting menu but it doesnt change anything
[11:15] <blue112> it just stay on english layout
[11:15] <smw> blue112, click the windows key, then type keyboard
[11:15] <smw> one of the options is a keyboard setting windows
[11:16] <blue112> smw: already done changes in that window
[11:16] <blue112> its all on french but still I have qwerty
[11:16] <ssame> MonkeyDust: faster bootup overall
[11:17] <smw> blue112, you added another keyboard?
[11:17] <shaneloots> hey everyone i have no display after i select ubuntu from the boot menu i get ubuntu will finish installing and then no display. how can i fix this? i tried booting in safe graphics mode but no luck.
[11:17] <megame> Hi boys :))) anyone to help me? how to mount my HDD after unmount ?
[11:17] <blue112> smw: I removed default layout and added the french onem yes
[11:18] <bond__> my structure is like this: program.java calls script1.sh. Script1.sh calls script2.sh. But script2.sh isnt woking fine. I am using pocess.waitFor() in java. Any solution/suggestion?
[11:18] <smw> blue112, no idea, that should fix it :-\
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> ssame  start by not using eyecandy, also add vm.swappiness=5 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:19] <blue112> smw: i know that should but it does just change nothing. No way to change it from the cli ?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> ssame  don't use to many services at startup
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> ssame  don't use nm-applet, rather set a fix IP-address
[11:19] <ssame> MonkeyDust: services in /etc/init.d/* rite
[11:19] <ssame> ?
[11:20] <shaneloots> anyone know where i can start to fix my problem?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> ssame  don't remember how i did it at the time
[11:20] <shaneloots> ?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  black screen with a cursor?
[11:21] <tiger_> hey i am a tiger
[11:21] <shaneloots> no cursor at  all just plain black
[11:21] <tiger_> how a you
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| shaneloots
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> tiger_  wrong channel, not here please
[11:21] <tiger_> bodo
[11:22] <shaneloots> thanks so much ill be lloking into that now
[11:22] <tiger_> football
[11:22] <megame> anyone to help me to mount my disk ?
[11:22] <W4sp> smw: blue112 PMFJI, you may check your .dmrc, set the params to US. Also, create another user and see if the new user is affected in the same way.
[11:22] <cfhowlett> tiger_: wrong channel.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> megame  what happens when you try?
[11:22] <tiger_> macubuntu
[11:22] <yaffs> why can. males get pregnant?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> yaffs: wrong channel
[11:22] <tiger_> buy windoows 8
[11:23] <blue112> W4sp: all i have in my dmrc is [Desktop] Session=gnome-shell
[11:23] <megame> MonkeyDust: i unmount my HDD now not view
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> bored script kiddies are here, ignore them
[11:23] <_cb> think I have a superblock trying to restore from live cd using e2fsck but booting back into live cd from every block recovery attempt is a pain. Any faster way?
[11:23] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS 8
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> megame  external HDD?
[11:23] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS 7
[11:24] <megame> MonkeyDust: not USB - sata2
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> megame  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here
[11:24] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS 8
[11:24] <megame> befor tha i unlpogin and plugin in my motherboard
[11:25] <DJones> tiger_: Please don't spam
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> DJones  don't give them attention
[11:25] <tiger_> SUDO CAP NEW WINDOWS 8
[11:25] <Renegade_> Could anyone tell me how to find a digitial camera from the command line?
[11:25] <savio> is 12.04 uses unity 2d
[11:25] <cfhowlett> DJones: don't feed the trolls.
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  try lsusb
[11:25] <W4sp> blue112: That's all? Ooops. Use the following where \\ is a hard return.  Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC
[11:25] <W4sp> 12:08 < cfhowlett> Hail_Spacecake: fun times.
[11:25] <W4sp> 12:08 < cash> Wow on ce calme
[11:25] <W4sp> 12:08 < Hail_Spacecake> and doesn't respond to mouse/keyboard to turn on again
[11:25] <W4sp> 12:08 < Hail_Spacecake> it's still running, I hear sounds when I adjust the
[11:25] <W4sp>                         volume
[11:25] <FloodBot1> W4sp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <alankila> Renegade_: see also gphoto2 command
[11:26] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, aha! I see it! Any idea on how to get to it? All I get is an id
[11:26] <blue112> W4sp: wait, what ?
[11:26] <blue112> bad copy/paste ?
[11:26] <Renegade_> alankila, installing
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> type lsusb|pastebinit and paste the url here, so we can see
[11:27] <W4sp> smw: blue112 PMFJI, you may check your .dmrc, set the params to US. Also, create another user and see if the new user is affected in the same way. [Desktop]\\Language=en_GB\\Layout=us\\Langlist=en_GB:en\\LCMess=en_GB.UTF-8\\Session=<your DE>
[11:27] <shaneloots> i have a problem. it says i can use nomodeset with wubi and i used wubi to install
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  wubi :(
[11:28] <cfhowlett> shaneloots: the problem is?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  wubi is only a pseudo-installation inside windows
[11:28] <W4sp> My apologies to all in the channel who feel offended by my large amount of paste content I put into this channel. My mouse slipped off the screen marking the IRC output. :-(
[11:28] <blue112> W4sp: im already on a new user
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> megame  keep it in the channel please
[11:29] <W4sp> blue112: Well, is it in French?
[11:29] <megame> no
[11:29] <shaneloots> so is their another way i can fix my black screen issue or enable nomodeset on boot before it tries to finish installation?
[11:29] <blue112> W4sp: nop qwerty
[11:29] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/b5JFHUVZ
[11:29] <W4sp> blue112: So that's what you want, isn't it?
[11:29] <yaffs> !ops
[11:30] <yaffs> !ops
[11:30] <megame> tnx for help MonkeyDust
[11:30] <yaffs> fuck
[11:30] <yaffs> !staff
[11:30] <DJones> yaffs: Stop that
[11:30] <yaffs> !ops
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !language|yaffs:
[11:30] <k1l> yaffs: stop that
[11:30] <yaffs> ruck you djones
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  does nautilus see the cam, when you plugged it in?
[11:31] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, yes
[11:31] <_cb> clear
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  ok, what was your initial question again?
[11:32] <blue112> brb trying to reboot
[11:32] <Renegade_> How can I get it's location
[11:32] <_cb> Having a problem with a bad superblock. If I use the e2fsck will the destination be /dev/sda? (I let ubuntu partition my hd on install)
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  click on it in nautilus, what happens
[11:32] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS
[11:33] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS
[11:33] <minimec> tiger_: Talk to the hand ('cause the face ain't listening)
[11:33] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS 8
[11:33] <DJones> tiger_: You've been asked not to do that
[11:33] <cfhowlett> tiger_: yo manna
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> minimec  ignore them
[11:33] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, it just opens the folder
[11:33] <cfhowlett> tiger_: yo mamma
[11:33] <tiger_> BUY NEW WINDOWS 8
[11:33] <Renegade_> Properties shows nothing either
[11:33] <Renegade_> I must exist somewhere
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  moment, i plugin my cam
[11:33] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> it's dead, darn old cam
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  look in /media to see if it's there
[11:36] <Renegade_> First place I tried and nothing :(
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> type mount
[11:38] <Renegade_> http://pastebin.com/sruR3H8M
[11:38] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust,
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  what's /media/STORAGE i guess it's what you want
[11:39] <Renegade_> Nah, sorry that's my HDD
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> looks odd
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> brb
[11:47] <gurupilgrim_> I can't install XULrunner on Ubuntu 12.04... in a terminal, typing xulrunner just returns command not found, and xulrunner does not show up in the software center
[11:47] <cfhowlett> gurupilgrim_: run apt-cache xulrunner
[11:48] <gurupilgrim_> returns Invalid operation xulrunner
[11:48] <cfhowlett> gurupilgrim_: run apt-cache *policy* xulrunner
[11:49] <cfhowlett> gurupilgrim_: sorry
[11:49] <DJones> gurupilgrim_: Doesn't look like it exists in precise
[11:49] <gurupilgrim_> lol. returns Unable to locate package xulrunner
[11:49] <gurupilgrim_> oh
[11:49] <gurupilgrim_> well that's encouraging
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  no further advise for now
[11:50] <DJones> gurupilgrim_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125980/how-do-i-install-xulrunner-in-12-04
[11:50] <cfhowlett> gurupilgrim_: same here - and I've got all repos enabled.
[11:50] <minimec> cfhowlett: xulrunner has been removed from the repos http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Removing-XULRunner-from-oneiric-call-for-help-td708630.html http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=Xulrunner&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[11:51] <cfhowlett> gurupilgrim_: see minimec's post
[11:51] <gurupilgrim_> ok thanks. looks like this will point me in the right direction
[11:51] <DJones> Just looking at the -devel mailing list, it was removed because they couldn't provide a stable xulrunner for the life of the release
[11:51] <xubuntunoob> I used the lili usb creator to set persistence, how do I mount the file system?
[11:52] <gurupilgrim_> so is that an indication that xulrunner isn't stable anymore?
[11:52] <_cb> Had a dual boot system that was working perfect. Now windows boots but ubuntu does not boot normal or in recovery mode.
[11:52] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, I have a temporary solution using gphoto2, gphoto2 -p <file> downloads it
[11:52] <Renegade_> Thanks for your help!
[11:53] <cfhowlett> _cb: any error messages?  what happens when you attempt to boot ubuntu?
[11:54] <_cb> cfhowlett normal boot hangs recovery mode takes me to the initramfs
[11:55] <cfhowlett> _cb: any chance you've already tried reinstalling grub?
[11:55] <_TJ_> _cb is that because of the bad superblock? If youve' fixed that it is possible there was corruption in data-blocks elsewhere in the file-system
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> xubuntunoob:  the persistance file? it can be mounted via the loop option in mount. same as you would an iso file.
[11:56] <_cb> cfhowlett would windows boot ok if grub was the problem?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[11:56] <_cb> _TJ_ am suspecting a bad superblock but not sure how to verify or fix
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the/casper-rw  /media/mysavefile
[11:56] <xubuntunoob> I don't have a CD, I'm booting from a USB
[11:56] <cfhowlett> _cb: see _tj_ 's question.  Also, yes, windows might boot fine.  I'm questioning that the ubuntu grub config didn't get scrambled somehow
[11:57] <_TJ_> _cb: use "fdisk -l /dev/sda" to list the partitions, then check the valid file-systems using, for example, "e2fsck /dev/sda1"
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> on 12.04, is there a way to get intel graphics (sandy bridge) working, or should i downgrade my distro?
[11:58] <_TJ_> bonhoeffer: Still having problems?
[11:59] <bonhoeffer> _TJ_, hi! yes, i've been playing with it and i think i'm out of my league
[11:59] <bonhoeffer> i keep messing up xorg.conf
[11:59] <_TJ_> bonhoeffer: Last I saw you'd got it up to 1600x1200 ... have things got worse again?
[11:59] <bonhoeffer> yea, i'm only getting 1024 now
[12:00] <_TJ_> bonhoeffer: video adapters are the bane of our lives!
[12:00] <bonhoeffer> true!
[12:00] <bonhoeffer> and it does look like i'm getting 1600,1200 now
[12:00] <_TJ_> bonhoeffer: but the display is native 1920x1200 isn't it?
[12:00] <bonhoeffer> yes
[12:01] <bonhoeffer> wuxga i believe
[12:01] <_TJ_> bonhoeffer: always best to get the native resolution with LCDs else it looses sharpness
[12:01] <xubuntunoob> Dr_Willis: I'm new to this, how do I do that? Sorry for the inexperience lol
[12:01] <bonhoeffer> yes -- it is pretty blury now
[12:02] <L3top> bonhoeffer: I am not sure that downgrading will provide any help at all
[12:02] <bonhoeffer> L3top, hi! sorry i'm still eating bandwidth with this
[12:02] <bonhoeffer> but this worked in 11.10
[12:02] <_TJ_> It's definitely a regression
[12:03] <bonhoeffer> i thought the last stable might have had this all worked out
[12:03] <bonhoeffer> i really don't have the cash to buy a new graphics card
[12:03] <L3top> bonhoeffer: in 11.10 did you have a repo version of the drivers or ppa?
[12:04] <bonhoeffer> not sure -- i set it up years ago
[12:04] <bonhoeffer> but i remember it took some work then
[12:04] <L3top> I would have expected 1204 would have better/more support not less.
[12:04]  * L3top wonders if xorg changes have something to do with this
[12:05] <bonhoeffer> L3top, well i'm up for any troubleshooting
[12:05] <bonhoeffer> L3top, that xorg.conf you sent yesterday was tried but didn't load
[12:06] <gsin> hi, I just installed ubuntu 12 LTS over PXE... everything's smooth but one really weird thing... whenever I disconnect VGA, ubuntu reboots randomly!
[12:06] <gsin> i dont get it... how's this possible
[12:06] <gsin> ?
[12:06] <L3top> Right... that is probably due to the weirdo options I chose. I was very optimistic, not conservative, with them.
[12:06] <_cb> from live cd I would do a sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, right? fdisk-l lists sda1 as * boot /HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[12:07] <L3top> no _cb... /dev/sda
[12:07] <bonhoeffer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1879121 <-- _TJ_, L3top looks promising
[12:07] <L3top> _cb: you do not want to specify a partition, it wants to be in the master boot record of the drive itself.
[12:08] <_cb> l3top got cannot find a device fro /boot /grub is dev mounted?
[12:08] <xalims> How can I connect to a wireless network on terminal?
[12:09] <savio> is there any alternative pdf reader where i can highlight text
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> !pdf| savio
[12:09] <L3top> I do not know what you have done thus far _cb... I was just answering the question... you will need to chroot into the mounted drive... bind /dev mount none sysfs then install-grub /dev/sda
[12:10] <L3top> afk
[12:10] <_cb> think I have a bad superblock. Won't mount via explorer
[12:10] <savio> ubottu, but anyone don't provide feature to highlight text etc
[12:11] <usr13_>  _cb  Via explorer?
[12:12] <usr13_>  _cb Isn't explorer a MS Windows app?
[12:12] <_cb> the ubuntu equivalent of windows explorer. Can 't recall the name
[12:13] <usr13_> O
[12:13] <KJB> nautils?
[12:13] <KJB> wait.. not sure
[12:13] <KJB> yeah, thats right
[12:13] <usr13_>  _cb The file manager.
[12:13] <_cb> file manager ;)
[12:14] <usr13_> KJB: You're right.  Nautils
[12:14] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I am using ubuntu to do implement a small website in which I use some xml files which I write with PHP5, I would like them to be written neatly indented rather that opening them and seeing an awful one-line blob of tags and content. Does anybody know how to do that (possibly using DOMDocument of the php library)?
[12:14] <KJB> cheers usr13_, thought i was going crazy for a mo
[12:15] <usr13_> *nautilus
[12:15] <KJB> usr13_, never actually noticed i always typo'd that
[12:16] <usr13_> That's why it didn't look right, it was a spelling error  :)
[12:17] <KJB> i setup a software raid with 2x 10k raptors yesterday, all works fine, need to get it to mount the array when it boots though
[12:17] <KJB> any ideas?
[12:17] <KJB> im guessing fstab, though im not overly confident
[12:17] <usr13_> Lorra: vim ?
[12:17] <an0n> fstab should do it
[12:17] <Lorra> usr13_, no, I'm opening those xml files to check them in this test phase with emacs
[12:18] <usr13_> !fstab | KJB
[12:18] <_cb> e2fsck fixed it ;)
[12:18] <decio> hey guys, when I try to boot from a live USB I get this Error Message, I can't install Ubuntu because of it... I have wubi, but I would like to dedicate a partition to it since it is so good! https://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/234261548103778304/photo/1/large any help?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !paste|decio
[12:19] <KJB> ubottu, even though this is a software RAID it'll be fine to place instructions to mount within fstab then?
[12:19] <KJB> if so i'll have a bash at it
[12:19] <usr13_> !grub | decio
[12:20] <an0n> decio: try making a new live cd with YUMI
[12:20] <usr13_> decio: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[12:20] <decio> an0n Already did that
[12:20] <extrasolar> decio somone had the same problem the other day
[12:20] <extrasolar> HOW are you installing it to the pen drive?
[12:20] <usr13_> decio: You more-than-likely failed to write the boot loader [grub] to MBR of primary HDD.
[12:21] <decio> ubottu usr13 ok, thanks for the help. But I wipped my hard drive before installing Windows 7, are you sure I can restore grub
[12:21] <an0n> not restore, but reinstall
[12:21] <an0n> boot up on a live cd (if you can?), and then install boot-repair from the ppa tualatrix/boot-repair
[12:22] <usr13_> decio:  Oh wiat, that says PXE, doesn't it.  Are you sure you have your bios set to boot the HDD?
[12:22] <usr13_> decio: First, tell us exactly what you did.
[12:22] <decio> usr13_ I have my Bios to boot from HDD first but I select F12 to get to USB
[12:23] <an0n> and you want to install ubuntu but you get an error on the install?
[12:23] <an0n> what exactly is the error?
[12:23] <usr13_> decio: Start from the beginning.  i.e.  I booted from install CD and ....
[12:23] <usr13_> https://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/234261548103778304/photo/1/large
[12:23] <usr13_> error  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66
[12:24] <an0n> that means there is nothing bootable on the hdd and it's looking for another boot device
[12:24] <an0n> like you said PXE
[12:24] <usr13_> an0n: Yea, that is the NIC trying to boot a PXE image, and not finding it.
[12:25] <an0n> ok, decio: boot from your usb into a live system, and then install the boot-repair package:
[12:25] <usr13_> ""PCI-E Ethernet Controller"
[12:25] <an0n> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/boot-repair
[12:25] <an0n> sudo apt-get update
[12:25] <an0n> sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[12:26] <an0n> then run "boot-repair", and it will reinstall grub to the MBR of your hdd allowing you to boot again
[12:26] <usr13_> an0n: But I'm not so sure he has the BIOS set to boot the HDD.  (Doesn't look like it.)
[12:27] <an0n> yeah but it would boot from the hard drive after not finding anything in the PXE surely?
[12:27] <usr13_> well... it first says "Missing operating system."  so....
[12:27] <an0n> yeah, that's what i think
[12:27] <shaneloots> hey everyone so i have a problem. after using wubi to install ubuntu i got no display but i managed to fix that using the nomodeset comand and now it loads up past the loading screen to what looks like the desktop screen background and hangs their its just the screen background that is displayed nothing else.
[12:28] <decio> an0n: the problem is that I can't boot to the live USB
[12:28] <usr13_> an0n: Yea, I know, it usually first looks for PXE info from the DHCP server, and THEN for a HDD MBR.
[12:28] <decio> usr13_ here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1140957/
[12:29] <cfhowlett> shaneloots: reminder: wubi is a TESTING app.  It is NOT designed or intended as a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.
[12:30] <shaneloots> i thought wubi was just used to install linux does it not install the full os?
[12:30] <usr13_> decio: Did Arch boot?
[12:30] <shaneloots> well ubuntu not linux sorry
[12:30] <decio> usr13_ no
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  idd, it's a pseudo-install inside windows
[12:31] <cfhowlett> shaneloots: full OS, yes.  But if you want the full OS just dual boot? Question: WHY did you choose the wubi install.
[12:31] <usr13_> decio: So none of them booted?
[12:31] <usr13_> decio: First, check the bios settings
[12:31] <decio> usr13_ none of them, I even fully formated the pendrive but still nothing
[12:31] <foobArrr> sometimes my usb mouse and usb keyboard suddenly stop working for no apparent reason. after suspend or hibernate they work again. this is annoying, what's wrong there?
[12:32] <minimec> shaneloots: I guess that the unity 3d desktop is not loaded correctly. Can you use <ctrl><alt>t key combination to open a terminal? Would that terminal have window border decoration?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> foobArrr: check the batteries on your devices ...
[12:32] <decio> usr13_ I'll set everything to Default to see if I get anything, thanks!
[12:32] <usr13_> decio: So you could not even get the USB drive to boot.  Right?
[12:32] <foobArrr> cfhowlett: cable, no batteries
[12:32] <shaneloots> would things go more smoothly if i just download and burn the disk? i used wubi because i was worried i would lose data when i boot from disk if i mess something up.
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  boot the live cd, use gparted to see if you have free space left to create a partition
[12:33] <cfhowlett> shaneloots: FWIW/IMHO, I've had WAY less heartache with dual booting than with wubi.
[12:33] <shaneloots> i can try getting into terminal but i need to leave here and restart the pc.
[12:33] <usr13_> shaneloots: Backup your critical data first.
[12:34] <minimec> shaneloots: <ctrl><alt>t?
[12:34] <Rockhound> hi anyone know how to setup kickstart installation in ubuntu
[12:34] <usr13_> shaneloots: USB should work ok.
[12:35] <usr13_> shaneloots: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[12:35] <shaneloots> ill try thr usb method once i have downloaded the files.
[12:35] <usr13_> shaneloots: What it it doing? <again>
[12:35] <usr13_> shaneloots: It boots but ..... ?
[12:36] <W4sp> foobArrr: I would store the output of lsusb a) when they are working and when not. If both are still listed it may well down do the USB driver(s). That said, It can be a power management issue disabling your entire USB hub.
[12:36] <OerHeks> Rockhound, To generate a Kickstart file, install the system-config-kickstart package and run system-config-kickstart. >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[12:37] <foobArrr> W4sp: k, thanks
[12:37] <Rockhound> ok
[12:38] <usr13_> Rockhound: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[12:38] <W4sp> foobArrr: Also, check if your USB mouse/kb show up on any search engine if they require special treatment. See usb_modeswitch(1) for details.
[12:38] <usr13_> or4n: Sorry, didn't see yours..
[12:39] <shaneloots> i thinks its trying to finish the wuib installation but it gets to the desktob and nothing else  just the desktop background.
[12:39] <usr13_> W4sp: <FYI> Those Windsufer parabloic dishes don't do anything </FYI>
[12:40] <minimec> usr13_: He (shaneloots)   enabled nomodeset in the kernel to get his GPU working in ubuntu. Now he doesn't get the unity interface. I guess 'nomodeset' kills the composite feature of his GPU... I also guess he enabled auto login and cannot logout whithout the panel. I would do <ctrl><alt>t unity-2d-panel and then logout and chosse unity 2d as sesion.
[12:40] <usr13_> shaneloots: You probably need to remove the wubi install first.  (I dono, I'm not real knowledgable about wubi._
[12:40] <W4sp> usr13_: That's a shame. A friend of mine lives in a flat with shiploads of other WiFi. It works well. Sorry to hear it didn't turn out that way.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> shaneloots  are you still inside wubi?
[12:41] <usr13_> minimec:  What does <ctrl><alt>t do?
[12:41] <minimec> usr13_: gnome-terminal shortcut...
[12:42] <usr13_> W4sp: Well, my initial testing was a flop, so... I dono.  I used the meter on my pone and it was the same with and without.
[12:42] <en1gma> does ubuntu support wusb600nv2 wifi adapter? i think it has ralink 3572L chipset
[12:42] <usr13_> minimec: O
[12:42] <W4sp> usr13_: That's usually a good test I would trust.
[12:43] <usr13_> minimec: Oh yea, brings up a termina. I knew that.... sorry.  Need more coffee I guess.
[12:43] <usr13_> W4sp: Yea, I have a wifi meter app that looks to be pretty accurate, I've used it for a while now.
[12:44] <usr13_> W4sp: But I did improve the location of the AP and it may be doing a little better now.  (It's at my son's house next door.  His place is bigger than mine.)
[12:45] <W4sp> usr13_: Kids...
[12:45] <usr13_> ... yea .... :(
[12:45] <minimec> shaneloots: Did you get my post above? Did you try that? I guess a fresh install might give you similar problems, if your GPU is not working correctly in ubuntu.
[12:46] <W4sp> usr13_: Can you not ask him to get you a WiFi booster. Or better, ensure your fibre optics are properly installed by your son. ;-)
[12:47] <theadmin> Okay, well, back after reinstalling Kubuntu. Now I believe I deserve an explanation as to why the backports repo is enabled by default, which broke my last install.
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  you should know better, that's an !ot question
[12:48] <usr13_> W4sp: No, his *house* is bigger than mine.  AND his AP is not in the middle of it.  (I have a burried cable from my house to his.)
[12:48] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Unstable repos being enabled by default is a serious issue, in my opinion, but yeah, I guess it's not really a support question.
[12:48] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Think I should report this as a bug?
[12:49] <compdoc> theadmin, guess theres still some kinks in Kubuntu
[12:49] <usr13_> theadmin: You sure do!  ????
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  i noticed they are enabled here, too, dunno why, never had issues with it
[12:49] <en1gma> does ubuntu support wusb600nv2 wifi adapter? i think it has ralink 3572L chipset
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> en1gma  try it and report in the channel
[12:50] <usr13_> MonkeyDust: theadmin That's pretty strange....
[12:50] <shaneloots> monkeyDust no im not in wubi anymore i start up my pc and it gives me options to select what os to boot and i select ubuntu then it says finishing installation in 4...3....2....1 and i press esc then c aand add nomodeset to camand line and boot then it boots to the loading screen. loads finished and then it just hangs by the next screen ( wich i think is the background)
[12:50] <en1gma> MonkeyDust how about i ask channel and if it is supported then i will try it
[12:51] <riddlebox> what would cause apps to open slowly on 12.04?
[12:51] <riddlebox> firefox and chrome take forever to open
[12:51] <W4sp> en1gma: I don't have the h/w but find something relaing to a previous Ubuntu version. See http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wireless-Adapters/UBUNTU-WUSB600N-v2-WORKS/td-p/318026 if that helps.
[12:51] <theadmin> riddlebox: Maybe you have many extensions? Firefox loads pretty fast for me (even though I do have a bunch of exts)
[12:51] <usr13_> en1gma: Is it a USB device?
[12:51] <en1gma> yea
[12:51] <riddlebox> I have no extensions...my setup is pretty much default
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> en1gma  while you waited for an answer, you could have tried it
[12:52] <usr13_> en1gma: http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=11761.0 (reading...)
[12:52] <en1gma> MonkeyDust you are so right if i had ubuntu installed
[12:52] <en1gma> now you can sit down
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> en1gma  i missed that part in your question
[12:52] <en1gma> you assumed
[12:52] <en1gma> "_
[12:52] <en1gma> :)
[12:53] <usr13_> en1gma:  http://www.ralinktech.com/en/index.php
[12:54] <en1gma> thanks
[12:54] <en1gma> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45997&comments=all   i think that has 5ghz support
[12:55] <usr13_> en1gma: http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/license.php?r=5017&sn=5017
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> en1gma  next time, don't forget to mention the fact that you don't have ubuntu installed
[12:55] <minimec> shaneloots: I ask again... When it hangs on that 'background', do you get a terminal when doing the shortcut <ctrl><alt>t?
[12:56] <shaneloots> ill restart and boot into ubuntu and try. if i get terminal what should i do?
[12:56] <usr13_> Oh never mind....
[12:56] <usr13_> en1gma: yea, we are pretty sure it works out-of-the-box
[12:57] <en1gma> MonkeyDust i figured you would know i didnt have ubuntu installed when i asked if my wifi adapter was supported in ubuntu
[12:57] <en1gma> otherwise i could have checked it myself
[12:57] <minimec> shaneloots: type unity-2d-panel <enter> If you are lucky you get a top panel, that allowas you to logout the sessioin. If you don't get a terminal, we have a different problem ... ;)
[12:57] <en1gma> usr13_ cool i think i will install and give it a go then
[12:57] <en1gma> usr13_ thanks for the help
[12:58] <usr13_> Ok, enough with the wild-goose-chases... It's off to my Linux User Group Meeting.  See you guys later  ;-)
[12:58] <usr13_> en1gma: Yea NP
[12:58] <shaneloots> miniec: ok thanks ill try that now and come back to tell you the result.
[13:02] <Renegade_> Anyone know how to find the most recently created file in a directory?
[13:03] <bunjee> Can anyone help me with this? Truncated!This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Account Settings, so we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server.
[13:03] <bunjee> Download the rest of the message.
[13:03] <bunjee> Thunderbird 14.0
[13:04] <vicky> can anyone help me to install theme which is in .sh?
[13:04] <theadmin> vicky: That's a shell script, just run it...
[13:05] <minimec> Renegade_: Try ls -c
[13:05] <vicky> when i am running that script in terminal it is showing error "install using gnome desktop"?
[13:05] <jeremiah_> I have gotten an error, saying my cache is broken, and i had it fixed once, but it broke again! someone help with a permanent fix?
[13:06] <theadmin> vicky: Maybe the script is old... Is this the "GnomeXP" thing?
[13:06] <theadmin> vicky: If so, that no longer works.
[13:07] <vicky> is there any way to degrade my 12.04 version to 11.10?
[13:07] <bunjee> how do I get rid of the Truncated message in Thunderbird?
[13:08] <shaneloots> ok im back and i didnt have access to terminal at all the system does not respond at all i can only move the mouse pointer. and even that lags
[13:08] <minimec> shaneloots: OK. Now we knw, that your GPU is not recognized by ubuntu. That's some kind of progress...
[13:09] <theadmin> vicky: No.
[13:09] <minimec> shaneloots: So without setting 'nomodeset' option for the kernel you get a blank screen only. Is that correct?
[13:09] <vicky> ok. thank u admin
[13:09] <shaneloots> yes thats correct
[13:09] <theadmin> vicky: You can reinstall though, but that's all you can do.
[13:09] <minimec> shaneloots: What kind if CPU are you using?
[13:10] <minimec> shaneloots: GPU, sorry.
[13:11] <shaneloots> im using a ati radeon saphire hd 3870 special edition.
[13:13] <dfdfd> ewew
[13:13] <dfdfd> wew
[13:13] <minimec> shaneloots: Ok. That's a starting point. You did not install any additional AMD/ati drivers I guees?
[13:13] <dfdfd> heloo
[13:13] <Spoonless> Hello :)
[13:13] <shaneloots> minimec: nope i did not do that, how would i do that?
[13:15] <theadmin> shaneloots: sudo jockey-text -e "xorg:fglrx" # That activates the propertiary AMD driver.
[13:16] <minimec> shaneloots: Trying to find a english fglrx wiki, but as my system settings is on 'german' right now, I only get the german ubuntu wiki....
[13:17] <theadmin> minimec: (s)he can simply use jockey as specified above.
[13:18] <minimec> shaneloots: If you wnat to try that, you would have to boot in 'recovery mode' and go to the roo shell. Then you would have to install 'apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev. Then you would have to do an initial configuration with 'aticonfig --initial'.
[13:18] <shaneloots> ok where do i enter this comand? same place i type nomodeset?
[13:19] <minimec> theadmin: I see. Thanks. Did not know that...
[13:19] <theadmin> shaneloots: No no, in any terminal on an already booted system
[13:20] <minimec> shaneloots: boot in recovery mode and do 'jockey-text -e "xorg:fglrx"' as theadmin stated.
[13:21] <theadmin> minimec: Well your apt-get line is fine too, lol
[13:21] <minimec> theadmin: I know, but your command is definitly nicer ;)
[13:21] <theadmin> minimec: Well, yeah, jockey is the "Ubuntu Way" to install drivers
[13:22] <shaneloots> it wont go into recovery because its trying to finish installation.
[13:23] <voldyman_> I am unable to login to my account. The password gets accepted but then unity-greeter restarts. Guest Account works
[13:24] <minimec> shaneloots: I have to leave you for a moment.... Will be back soon.
[13:25] <shaneloots> ok no problem
[13:25] <firas> how to change ubuntu default wallpaper and theme?
[13:26] <voldyman_> can anyone help?
[13:26] <Rockhound> hi can u please tell me how to make a kickstart file in ubuntu?
[13:26] <uhaish> hello
[13:27] <firas> voldyman: what is it?
[13:27] <voldyman_> firas: i am unable to login
[13:27] <voldyman_> Unity greeter restarts
[13:27] <bunjee> anybody help with truncated messages in Thunderbird14.0?
[13:29] <firas> voldyman_: i am anot an expert, but i will try to help you. Did you recently upgrade ubuntu?
[13:29] <voldyman_> Yes
[13:29] <jeremiah_> I have gotten an error, saying my cache is broken, and i had it fixed once, but it broke again! someone help with a permanent fix?
[13:29] <compdoc> bunjee, I dont use Thunderbird, but you dont think its set to just download headers instead of the whole message?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Rockhound  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[13:29] <firas> voldyman_: Did you try to
[13:30] <firas> voldyman_: use the command line? It happend to me twice,
[13:30] <voldyman_> Yup tty work
[13:31] <firas> voldyman_: did you complete the upgrade successfully?
[13:32] <voldyman_> firas: yes
[13:32] <firas> voldyman_: Try using " apt-get -f install --fix-missing"
[13:33] <voldyman_> firas:  does nothing.
[13:33] <firas> voldyman_: what about " sudo lightdm" or "sudo gdm" ?
[13:33] <SliMM> hello
[13:34] <heroandtn3> hello
[13:34] <voldyman_> firas:  did try lightdm
[13:34] <voldyman_> Thanks  firas i g2g
[13:34] <voldyman_> btw can login
[13:35] <firas> voldyman_: Ah great, bye
[13:35] <SliMM> If I want to create an application indicator
[13:35] <SliMM> but I don't want to use the gtk main loop
[13:35] <SliMM> what do I do?
[13:35] <firas> WHERE ARE THE GNOME DEFAULT THEME AND WALLPAPER FILES LOCATED
[13:36] <jrib> firas: please don't use caps
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> firas  try ~/.themes
[13:36] <firas> jrib: sorry, hit caps lock by mistake
[13:36] <firas> MonkeyDust: no such file
[13:37] <bunjee> compdoc you on still?
[13:38] <Stanley00> firas: how about /usr/share/themes/ ?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> firas  try /usr/share/themes/
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> Stanley00  was faster :)
[13:38] <bunjee> this is what's in the message body.....Truncated!This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Account Settings, so we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server.
[13:38] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: ;)
[13:39] <firas> Stanley00: there where the themes are located, but how to change the theme
[13:39] <Stanley00> firas: well, I don't know actually, try some xml files in there
[13:40] <firas> Stanley00: thnx anyway
[13:40] <a_b0y> how do you install Skype on ubuntu?
[13:40] <Stanley00> firas: :)
[13:40] <theadmin> a_b0y: Donwload from Skype.com. Install.
[13:41] <Stanley00> !skype | a_b0y
[13:41] <a_b0y> i tried that ubuntu help page it didn't work
[13:42] <a_b0y> and i don't know how to install .deb files
[13:43] <Stanley00> a_b0y: so, you downloaded skype from homepage?
[13:43] <a_b0y> yeah
[13:43] <Stanley00> a_b0y: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[13:44] <_TJ_> bunjee: Thunderbird -> Edit > > Account Settings > [Choose Account] > Synchronisation & Storage > Disc Space > "Don't download messages larger than XXX kB"
[13:44] <xangua> a_b0y: or just double clic on it...
[13:45] <a_b0y> oh ok thanks
[13:47] <TheMadDrizzle_> I've got a few questions:  1) I've just installed archlinux alongside my Ubuntu.  Now that arch is installed, and grub loads up, I dont see any options for my prior Ubuntu install.  How do I fix this? 2) I know this isn't Arch chat, but it seems pretty basic - when my system boots up, it asks for login / pass for root.  I dont remember setting a username for root durring my install..
[13:47] <jrib> TheMadDrizzle_: if you use ubuntu's grub, it should display all your linuxes
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Stanley00  i was away - FYI: themes can be changed with the program Advanced Settings
[13:48] <jrib> TheMadDrizzle_: if you're asking about the login info for arch, please use #archlinux
[13:48] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle_: You shouldn't have installed ArchLinux if you don't know what you're doing. And since you can't configure GRUB, you don't. I suggest you remove it. Other than that, you should boot to Arch and run "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg". As for the root password, the default is blank IIRC.
[13:48] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: well, I thought he want to the the themes element... LOL
[13:48] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle_: Visit #archlinux for further help.
[13:48] <TheMadDrizzle_> jrib: Its the grub for arch that boots.  how do I go about switching which grub boots first, ubuntu or arch?
[13:49] <jrib> !grub | TheMadDrizzle_
[13:49] <jrib> TheMadDrizzle_: you can also presumably just configure arch's copy of grub appropriately.  Do what theadmin suggested or visit #archlinux for that
[13:50] <_TJ_> TheMadDrizzle: I suspect this is caused because you did not have a separate partition allocated for the /boot/ file-system, that Ubuntu and Arch could share. Therefore when you installed Arch it could only find the kernels in its own /boot/ directory and therefore didn't generate a menu that includes any Ubuntu kernels.
[13:51] <theadmin> _TJ_: Arch doesn't autogenerate practically anything. Unless you tell it to. It's a DYI distro, unlike Ubuntu.
[13:51] <theadmin> Anyway this is offtopic
[13:52] <_TJ_> TheMadDrizzle: You ought to be able to fix it manually from Arch by manually adding an entry to /boot/grub/grub.cfg with a menu entry to boot Ubuntu, enough to then reboot into Ubuntu and correct things.
[13:54] <Renegade_> Sorry, my internet connection cut and I never got a chance to see if anyone managed to ask my question but
[13:54] <Renegade_> Anyone know how to find the most recently created file in a directory?
[13:54] <_TJ_> Renegade_: "ls -altr"
[13:55] <escott> Renegade_, not possible
[13:55] <_TJ_> escott: O_O
[13:56] <xH_> _TJ_ I love your banging ass yo
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  try ls -t
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Renegade_  ls -lt
[13:57] <Claximillions> Are there commands to disable/enable and/or prioritize network interfaces? i.e. eth1 and wlan0
[13:57] <escott> _TJ_, "creation date" is not a timestamp stored in ext4. in part because the semantics are not meaningful. What should the creation date be of "sed s/something/else/ file.txt file.new; rm file.txt; mv file.new file.txt
[13:58] <theadmin> Claximillions: Disable/enable? "ip link set FACE up" (replace face with eth1, wlan0, etc). I'm sure there's some way to prioritize, but that's beyond me
[13:58] <Claximillions> theadmin: Thanks ^^
[13:58] <theadmin> Claximillions: "down" instead of "up" to disable.
[13:58] <Claximillions> simple enough
[14:01] <Renegade_> MonkeyDust, thanks
[14:02] <_TJ_> escott: ext4 added crtime (create time) some while ago. it's stored in the upper 128 bits of the inode
[14:04] <escott> _TJ_, but none of the userspace tools know how to read that. ls -altr shows modification time
[14:04] <_TJ_> escott: which is good enough in most cases to find the most recently created/amended files
[14:06] <Gallomimia> hi. i've messed up my motd file somehow. It wasn't behaving so i removed some symlinks. Can anyone suggest a method of restoring the beautiful update/restart notifications and so on? Can I modify it to add more? A manual for this stuff would be great. it's a ubuntu server running 12.04
[14:08] <xt3mp0r> How can i get hex value of multimedia keys on my keyboard? so that i can use it on my dwm config.
[14:09] <theadmin> xt3mp0r: Try using xev
[14:09] <xt3mp0r> theadmin: Thanks.
[14:09] <_TJ_> Gallomimia: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install  update-notifier-common"
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> xt3mp0r  "Alternatively you can find the hex value just by clicking on the symbol in Character map. (You probably want to choose the 'Common' script from the left-side menu.)" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> xt3mp0r  not sure if that counts for MM keys
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> I thought many Multimedia keys sent Keycodes like 'Xf86_Play' 'XF86_Pause'
[14:12] <Gallomimia> great thanks _TJ_
[14:13] <Benkinooby> hi, where can i find the ntp drift file? it is not in /etc/ ...
[14:14] <luwei> he（乚
[14:14] <CmdrTallen> Any suggestions for putting music on a iPod Touch Model MD057LL Version 5.1.1 ?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> !ipod
[14:17] <arky1> Hi
[14:19] <l_r> hello
[14:19] <Gallomimia> hi
[14:20] <l_r> i have a very annoying problem with ubuntu 12.04
[14:20] <Gallomimia> !rockbox
[14:20] <l_r> basically i cannot see the icons of some applications in the gnome panel
[14:20] <l_r> when they are docked/minimized
[14:20] <Gallomimia> ohhhhhhhhh!
[14:20] <l_r> any  idea how to solve this once for all?
[14:20]  * Dr_Willis guesses one of the apps is eclipse.
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> or are you refering to the little indicator-applet icons?
[14:21] <l_r> it's really boring, because once you have minimized, then you have no way to maximize them again
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> what apps?
[14:21] <l_r> Dr_Willis, jitisi for example
[14:22] <l_r> jitsi
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> so just ONE app has the issue? or others?
[14:22] <alankila> minimize apps? in 2012? surely you must be joking.
[14:22] <l_r> alankila, i meant to say, minimize windows
[14:22] <l_r> so that an icon would appear on the panel
[14:22] <alankila> I am just annoying you. Never mind. Just reminded me that GNOME 3 doesn't support that afair
[14:23] <l_r> are you sure?
[14:23] <l_r> some icons /apps appear correctly
[14:23] <l_r> some dont
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> You asaid gnome-panel earlier.. you are using GNome-shell/gnome3? or the gnome faallback mode?
[14:23] <l_r> gnome 3
[14:24] <l_r> i dont even know why they forked gnome in shell/classic etc.. it used to work! damn them
[14:24] <tiger_> hey
[14:24] <alankila> hmm wait it is supported? Well, I haven't really used gnome 3, so excuse me.
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Gnome3 is not a 'fork'
[14:24] <l_r> i have the old style-gnome desktop on ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> l_r  me too
[14:24] <alankila> in G3 you are supposed to be able to see windows in the overview mode from top-left, eh? wouldn't the minimized windows be there?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> I just use Unity. :)
[14:24] <l_r> and the above one is my problem
[14:25] <l_r> maybe i should ask in #gnome
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> !info jitisi
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> is jitisi a java app by any chance?
[14:26] <l_r> !info jitsi
[14:26] <l_r> see www.jitsi.org
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> so is it a java app?
[14:27] <l_r> Dr_Willis, yes it's based on java
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Theres known issues with some java apps.   which is why i mentioned eclipse earlier.
[14:27] <l_r> i see
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> and why i asked for what other apps. :)
[14:29] <alankila> I guess that's another failure on GNOME developers' heads.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> or more weirdness on java devlopers.. seen java apps act very weirdly in the past.
[14:30] <l_r> boring
[14:30] <l_r> really
[14:30] <alankila> regular users do not care. The application did not change, desktop environment did, and now they have a broken system.
[14:31] <alankila> and since applications are the king, breaking them is unacceptable, no matter how horridly they were written. There should always be a convincing compatibility story.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> supporting badly written/broken apps? yea.. not going to happen.
[14:31] <mneptok> Point 1: l_r is using an unmaintained GNOME.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  thought he said he was using gn0me-3
[14:32] <mneptok> 08:24 < l_r> i have the old style-gnome desktop on ubuntu 12.04
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> mneptok  are you using gnome2 in some way, or gnome3 'classic'
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Willi+| You asaid gnome-panel earlier.. you are using GNome-shell/gnome3? or the gnome faallback mode?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> l_r      | gnome 3
[14:32] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: i use XFCE. why?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> mneptok  addressed wrong guy :s
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> l_r   are you using gnome2 in some way, or gnome3 'classic'
[14:33] <alankila> Anyway, it looks like soon nobody uses GNOME 3, so I can only recommend by this point to switch to other environments.
[14:33] <alankila> (and I count classic mode as part of gnome 3)
[14:33] <schiavo> ciao a tutti
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> please don't say it
[14:33] <mneptok> alankila: i'm an extremly lazy individual. please stop the opinions and stick with support so i don't have to +o and all that.
[14:35] <mneptok> alankila: but ... in #ubuntu-offtopic i'm sure you'll get traction.
[14:35] <alankila> nah. I alreay had to leave that place for being too offtopic for even them :-p
[14:36] <mneptok> alankila: nice to see you're a quick learner. :/
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> alankila  try #defocus
[14:36] <magma> Any app to edit PDFs, like writing some text?
[14:36] <magma> and adding circles with colors
[14:36] <heisenmink> is there any way to verify that my /etc/default/grub has correct syntax?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> magma  i guess inkscape does the trick
[14:37] <magma> is it available from the repositories?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> magma  yes
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> !info inkscape
[14:38] <magma> not so light-weighed
[14:38] <magma> but ok
[14:38] <mneptok> magma: drawing vector graphics into PDFs is not a lightweight chore.
[14:38] <magma> I see
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> magma  inkscape has 'save as pdf'n just checked
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> I bet its light compared to comparable windows apps...
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[14:39] <Benkinooby> i stoped ntpd, set the date wit ntpdate, started ntp and now my system time if off  by 5 minutes... within 30 minutes or so :/ can some1 help me... that issues really troubles me for too long
[14:42] <rodger_nc> I just added a 1 terabyte drive to my 12.04 machine and formatted it with disk utility and now I want to make it a backup system disk - what command do I use to install 12.04 on it?
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> you want to clone your current system? or want a clean install?
[14:43] <mneptok> rodger_nc: i'd use dd, not the installer.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> rodger_nc  install it the normal way, slect the terabyte /dev in the installer
[14:44] <Gallomimia> is it recommended to use dd on a rw fs as the input?
[14:45] <Gallomimia> especially one that's the root/boot drive?
[14:45] <rodger_nc> I would like to clone my current system onto it, so if my 750 drive dies I can boot from the terrabyte
[14:45] <Gallomimia> yes you haven't answered the questions yet
[14:45] <Gallomimia> do you want an exact copy of your current system
[14:45] <Gallomimia> or a fresh install
[14:45] <escott> Gallomimia, absolutely not
[14:45] <rodger_nc> exact copy
[14:45] <Gallomimia> that's what i thought
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> use a live cd, and image the installed system to the new HD.
[14:46] <Gallomimia> well then. you need to boot with a live cd and use dd to copy it
[14:46] <Gallomimia> be FAKKIN careful with dd. but it's a very simple tool
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> rodger_nc  there's clonezilla and there's the !clone factoid
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> but keeping the backup up to data.. will be a bit of a bother.
[14:46] <hydruid> rodger_nc: you could use clonezilla to clone  your current drive to the new one
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> Clonezilla is perhaps a better way
[14:46] <Gallomimia> no it won't. rsync is your friend. cron is rsync's friend
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> rsync <3
[14:47] <rodger_nc> to use a live CD I would need a live CD
[14:47] <Gallomimia> but at this point you might as well get it raid1 and trim the remaining quarter TB off as an extra partition. some raid systems can do that
[14:47] <compdoc> so many friends in Ubuntu! What a happy OS!
[14:47] <Gallomimia> if you don't have a live cd be sure and overwrite your boot drive using dd
[14:47] <rodger_nc> crap - did not think about the clone being an exact size
[14:47] <Gallomimia> doesn't need to be
[14:47] <hydruid> clonezilla will fix that
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !clone > rodger_nc
[14:48] <Gallomimia> it WILL be a 750gig partition after dd does its magic but you can resize it
[14:48] <hydruid> it should give you the option to extend the partition to the size of the entire drive
[14:48] <Gallomimia> well yeah if you use fancy high level tools anything's possible :P
[14:49] <sunil_> hi
[14:50] <LukasLt> Hi my friend managed to do something as smart as sudo rm sudo
[14:51] <LukasLt> is there any "easy" way fix it?
[14:51] <escott> !find sudo
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> LukasLt  su and then apt-get install sudo
[14:51] <rodger_nc> does dd have a gui interface disk utility does not appear to be capable of the operation
[14:51] <escott> LukasLt, download the deb. boot to recover. install the deb
[14:51] <compdoc> try: apt-get install sudo
[14:54] <trijntje> Hi all, I want to automatically mount an external drive during boot so it is accesible to all users. How can I do this
[14:54] <narcos> Hi #Ubuntu. I'd like to setup DNS on my local network's FW - all it will do is allow internal machines to query it, and pass the requests on. I simply did an 'apt-get install bind9' and modified the 'forwarders' to my ISP DNS. I can query the DNS from localhost, but from other machines in my LAN I get a 'not found: 5(REFUSED)'
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  put it in fstab
[14:55] <escott> !fstab | trijntje
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  what kind of drive?
[14:55] <LukasLt> thanks, recovery mode helped to reset rood psswd and we are in :)
[14:55] <sunil_> any one help me pls
[14:56] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: external usb harddisk
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  yes.. but what filesystem is on the drive?
[14:56] <trijntje> ah, ext4, sorry
[14:56] <trijntje> sunil_: ask away ;)
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  /dev/sdc1       /home/<user>/extern      auto    rw      0       0
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  make a fstab entry., but you will have to use chown/chomod as needed to allow the users to access whatver you want accessable
[14:56] <tiger_> hey all
[14:56] <sunil_> im not able to install anysoftware
[14:57] <sunil_> error occurs
[14:57] <sunil_> :(
[14:57] <tiger_> sudo kai
[14:57] <trijntje> sunil_: how are you trying to install software, and what errors do you get
[14:58] <rodger_nc> I looked up clonezilla in the application manager and - nothing
[14:58] <sunil_> m using ubuntu
[14:58] <sunil_> software centre
[14:58] <sunil_> to install
[14:58] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: thanks. Can I give users access to sub directories or just the top level?
[14:58] <hydruid> rodger_nc: clonezilla is not an application you install, it's an utility you burn onto a cd or usb drive
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | trijntje
[14:58] <sunil_> Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in
[14:58] <sunil_> order to install the var-qmail packages.
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  same as on any other linux filesystem
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[14:59] <sunil_> this what this error says
[14:59] <hydruid> rodger_nc: http://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/03_Disk_to_disk_clone
[14:59] <rodger_nc> hydruid: thanks
[14:59] <hydruid> rodger_nc: that link has step by step instructions for what you need to do
[14:59] <trijntje> sunil_: what about installing other packages?
[14:59] <hydruid> you're welcome
[15:00] <sunil_> anyone help me
[15:00] <sunil_> all
[15:00] <sunil_> it occurs with all
[15:00] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: thanks
[15:00] <sunil_> actually i have upgraded my ubuntu
[15:00] <sunil_> recntly
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> sunil_  don't hit the enter key too often, it will get a headache
[15:01] <sunil_> ok
[15:03] <sunil_> trijntje please chat with me
[15:04] <sunil_> Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in
[15:04] <sunil_> order to install the var-qmail packages.
[15:05] <sunil_> how to fix this?
[15:05] <sunil_> any one please tell me
[15:05] <trijntje> sunil_: how about removing var-qmail? Why do you need that package?
[15:05] <sunil_> ok
[15:05] <sunil_> how to remove that?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> sunil_  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you cam here -- in one line, please
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> came*
[15:08] <tiphares> so, how can i get the IP of the users connected through ssh in a CLI?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> tiphares  try the command 'who'
[15:08] <ruffyD> hello
[15:09] <kiraslaugh> why can i ssh into my computer from a local network, but not from anywhere else?
[15:10] <sunil_> monkey
[15:10] <sunil_> help me
[15:10] <ruffyD> I'm using 11.10 and when I adjust the terminal font to 9, I get strange artefacts when typing (like characters aren displayed properly or the last charcter shows up when pressing space
[15:10] <ruffyD> could someone help me?
[15:11] <ruffyD> in another vm with ubuntu 11.10 I don't have those probs
[15:11] <sunil_> when ever i try to install any software error occurs, which says "
[15:11] <sunil_> Your system needs to have a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) in
[15:11] <sunil_> order to install the var-qmail packages.
[15:11] <sunil_> Installation aborted.
[15:11] <trijntje> kiraslaugh: probably because your router blocks incomming connections
[15:13] <trijntje> sunil_: sudo apt-get removee var-qmail
[15:13] <sunil_> ok
[15:13] <trijntje> remove
[15:13] <sunil_> thanks
[15:13] <trijntje> kiraslaugh: I dont know, it depends on your router how to open a port
[15:14] <sunil_> Building dependency tree
[15:14] <sunil_> Reading state information... Done
[15:14] <sunil_> E: Unable to locate package var-qmail
[15:14] <ancol> ?
[15:14] <sunil_> again error :(
[15:15] <ancol> first
[15:15] <ancol> can not use
[15:15] <kiraslaugh> trijntje: ok. its a 2wire router from att. i hate it lol. do you have to turn on port forwarding on the router and ubuntu?
[15:15] <trijntje> sunil_: sudo apt-get remove qmail
[15:16] <sunil_> ok thnks
[15:17] <sunil_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:17] <sunil_>   qmail
[15:17] <sunil_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:17] <sunil_> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[15:17] <sunil_> After this operation, 2,052 kB disk space will be freed.
[15:17] <FloodBot1> sunil_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <sunil_> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[15:17] <rihen> hello after 12.04 lts upgradation i have lost volume control icon
[15:17] <rihen> ?
[15:17] <trijntje> kiraslaugh: I think ubuntu will allow incomming connections  by default
[15:17] <AzzIzzA> I'm pretty sure that a package which sets up system parameters isn't checking the config of your router aside from the fact that you don't need port forwarding in order to use a mailserver
[15:18] <AzzIzzA> more likely, it wants the system to have a fqdn defined, which is what the error says
[15:18] <rihen> hello
[15:18] <kiraslaugh> trijntje: ok that's what i thought but i wasn't sure. I'd say it may be the router.
[15:18] <rihen> volume control icon lost
[15:18] <xangua> rihen: tried to reset unity¿ unity --reset
[15:19] <subz3r0> rihen, repeating yourself in 1 minunte wont help...
[15:19] <rihen> what will this command do?
[15:19] <subz3r0> Reset unity..
[15:24] <harushimo> hi I install drupal 7 on my machine through aptitude. How do I access drupal?
[15:29] <ruffyD> I'm using 11.10 and when I adjust the terminal font to 9, I get strange artefacts when typing (like characters aren displayed properly or the last charcter shows up when pressing space
[15:30] <mneptok> ruffyD: using a monospaced font, right?
[15:31] <ruffyD> yes
[15:31] <ruffyD> on my other vm with 11.10 its no problem though
[15:31] <mneptok> ruffyD: what do you have set as the system-wde monospace font?
[15:31] <mneptok> *wide
[15:32] <ruffyD> mneptok, where can I see that?
[15:32] <Synthead> hey guys, gonna set up a win7/ubuntu dualboot-er for a friend.  think a 10G partition would be sufficient for just tinkering in ubuntu?
[15:33] <mneptok> ruffyD: there are system prefs that allow you to set what fonts you use.
[15:33] <nailora> is there a command to determine laptop make and model from command line?
[15:33] <Sidewinder1> Synthead, Why don't you think positive (he's gonna' love ubuntu), and give him/her 20G.
[15:33] <ruffyD> so, okay i just install this advanced settings application and change those settings?
[15:34] <root_> Hi
[15:34] <mneptok> ruffyD: there's nothing to install
[15:34] <Synthead> Sidewinder1: heh, yeah.  the plan would be to mount Users/_name_/ to somewhere in Ubuntu, so she'll have storage
[15:34] <mneptok> ruffyD: the system comes with a way to set what fonts you use. go and look.
[15:35] <Synthead> Sidewinder1: what's the footprint of a "normal" "just install it" installation of ubuntu?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> nailora  sudo lshw|less
[15:35] <root_> My software center doesn't seem to work. When clicking install, nothing happends. Running apt-get install will get the program, but the programs won't work properly. Any ideas?
[15:35] <ruffyD> okay, but in my system settings, there are no font options
[15:36] <perseo22> Nailora: sudo lshw|head -10
[15:36] <perseo22> :P
[15:37] <p_ece> heya all
[15:37] <root_> no one?
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> Synthead, I don't know, exactly, it's been a while. Around 4G just to try and play, I suspect. But for long term the more the merrier.
[15:38] <Synthead> Sidewinder1: right.  I'm gonna do a 10G.  there's always gparted :)
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> Yepperz.
[15:39] <Hrafn> I have assigned swap space using Gparted, and everything went pretty well. However, there are no noticeable changes - is it possible to check if Ubuntu recognizes the new partition?
[15:39] <nailora> MonkeyDust: perseo22: thanks
[15:39] <Sidewinder1> Synthead, If you're gonna be shrinking any NTFS/fat32, don't forget to defrag (within win), at least twice prior to shrinking.
[15:39] <Synthead> Hrafn: $ mount
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Hrafn  ubuntu uses swap only when needed
[15:39] <Synthead> Hrafn: you should see swap mounted
[15:41] <danielboston26> i need some help
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> danielboston26  shoot
[15:42] <danielboston26> how do i  add intremap=off to the kernel parameters? im trying to install ubuntu and thats the fix but how do i do that since i can't get into a cl
[15:42] <Synthead> danielboston26: put it in /boot/grub/menu.lst, or if you're using grub2, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:42] <exit2600x> I am having trouble with audio after installing and updating ubuntu 11.10.  Can anyone help?
[15:42] <Hrafn> Synthead: The swap does not seem to show up. It does show /dev/sda1, which is my primary partition, but it does not show /dev/sda2, which would logically be the swap partition.
[15:43] <TrollingForSoup> How can you not access the command line, exit2600x ?
[15:43] <TrollingForSoup> Oops, wrong person.
[15:43] <TrollingForSoup> I meant danielboston26 , sorry.
[15:43] <danielboston26> Synthead: i think 12.10 uses grub 2 correct?
[15:43] <exit2600x> lol
[15:43] <exit2600x> np
[15:43] <danielboston26> TrollingForSoup: can't boot
[15:43] <TrollingForSoup> As for audio, what's the issue?
[15:43] <Synthead> Hrafn: run this: $ blkid
[15:43] <Synthead> Hrafn: you should see the UUID for /dev/sdb2
[15:44] <TrollingForSoup> exit2600x, Have you made sure the settings in PulseAudio are correct, exit2600x ?
[15:44] <exit2600x> no sound coming through, tried un muting, tried changing device in alsamixer, not working
[15:44] <TrollingForSoup> Dammit, tagged twice. Sorry just woke up, not on my a-game.
[15:44] <Hrafn> Yeah, it shows. I take this to mean Ubuntu recognizes it and will use it if necessary?
[15:44] <exit2600x> i think so, but maybe im missing something
[15:44] <Synthead> danielboston26: I believe 1.x
[15:44] <Synthead> danielboston26: but I'm mostly guessing
[15:44] <TrollingForSoup> Does it give multiple options for output?
[15:45] <TrollingForSoup> I know my laptop has three "Stereo duplex" options for playback, but only one works.
[15:45] <exit2600x> yes, and i picked the analog one, which should be my onboard sound
[15:45] <Synthead> Hrafn: no, that's just blkid reporting information on your disks
[15:45] <Synthead> Hrafn: copy that long string, then edit (as root) /etc/fstab
[15:45] <exit2600x> ive tried all of them and they do not work
[15:45] <TrollingForSoup> Is it set as fallback?
[15:45] <Synthead> Hrafn: you can use gedit, vim, nano, or whatever to edit it.  just do it as root (sudo) and let me know when it's open
[15:45] <danielboston26> Synthead hmm seems it doesn't use it by default if your using a secure boot which im not so im gussing it is grub 2
[15:46] <Hrafn> Wait, edit /etc/fstab? Now I'm a bit confused.
[15:46] <exit2600x> set as : playback: internal analog audio
[15:46] <Synthead> Hrafn: fstab is where your operating system looks to mount block devices
[15:46] <Synthead> Hrafn: we're going to tell ubuntu to always mount your swap
[15:47] <Synthead> Hrafn: if you pull a terminal up, you can run "sudo nano /etc/fstab" to edit it
[15:47] <Hrafn> Cool. So it's just "sudo edit /etc/fstab" or is there something else to it?
[15:47] <Hrafn> Ah, sudo nano?
[15:47] <nekura> noooooo :'( don't touch me.
[15:48] <nekura> oh, sorry. I have nano set to highlight, apparently I'm not nano anymore =/
[15:48] <jacer> Hrafn: you need to use a text editor to edit it.  If you're doing it via terminal I suggest vi.
[15:48] <TrollingForSoup> I enjoy Nano more than vi.
[15:48] <Synthead> Hrafn: yeah, nano is an editor.  when you type commands into your terminal, it looks for programs.  "edit" isn't a program, but "nano", is one, and is a simple text editor
[15:48] <TrollingForSoup> But that's likely just me.
[15:48] <TrollingForSoup> edit is the MS command line editor.
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Hrafn  try sudo -e /etc/fstab.d/
[15:48] <Synthead> TrollingForSoup: vim is much better than vi ;)
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Hrafn  try sudo -e /etc/fstab
[15:48] <TrollingForSoup> But this isn't Windows.
[15:49] <Synthead> mongo: fstab isn't a program
[15:49] <jacer> oh man, we're about to go nuclear here between vim and vi aren't we.
[15:49] <TrollingForSoup> But I always mishit keys when switching between modes in vim.
[15:49] <TrollingForSoup> Wow, mis-hit.
[15:49] <Synthead> mongo: OH!  wow, look at that, I didn't know about -e
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Synthead  we're here to learn :)
[15:50] <Synthead> MonkeyDust: no doubt.  I love freenode :)
[15:50] <Hrafn> So it's up, but I have no idea what to do with it. Not used to editing text in the terminal...
[15:50] <Synthead> Hrafn: well, text mode is the best way to edit text, right? ;)
[15:50] <exit2600x> sigh...thanks for the help, im reinstalling this
[15:50] <Hrafn> Very true, but it has different tabs.
[15:51] <TrollingForSoup> Know what annoys me? The "edit Awesome config" option in Awesomewm doesn't open the config as root/
[15:51] <Synthead> Hrafn: so here's what you'll add.  UUID="(uuid from blkid)" none swap defaults 0 0
[15:51] <TrollingForSoup> So you can't even use it to edit the config.
[15:51] <Synthead> Hrafn: for example, my line for swap on my server here is
[15:51] <Synthead> Hrafn: UUID=92d7ee41-7ca7-433c-b337-1d913d9b0142 none            swap     defaults 0 0
[15:52] <Hrafn> So "UUID=f3ea0ba4-f23c-4eed-8524-b22586fea34a none swap defaults 0 0" would work?
[15:52] <Synthead> Hrafn: yeah, that looks perfect.  (without quotes _in_ the file, of course!)
[15:53] <Synthead> Hrafn: ctrl-x will quit, say yes to save, then you should be back to a terminal
[15:53] <Hrafn> Yeah, no quotes in the file. It had another one as a sort of template, which was extremely useful.
[15:53] <Synthead> Hrafn: excellent
[15:53] <Synthead> Hrafn: lemme know when it's saved, there's one more step
[15:53] <Hrafn> Yeah, it's saved.
[15:54] <Synthead> Hrafn: ok, now run (as root) mount -a
[15:54] <Synthead> Hrafn: after that, you should see your swap mounted when you type "mount"
[15:54] <Synthead> Hrafn: also, if you type "free", it should mention swap
[15:55] <Hrafn> Swap:            0          0          0  <--- Eh... I think something failed there...
[15:55] <Hrafn> That's total, used, and free.
[15:55] <Synthead> Hrafn: you ran mount -a as root?
[15:56] <Hrafn> I did.
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Hrafn  try sudo swapon -a
[15:56] <Hrafn> Swap:     30866428          0   30866428 <--- Much better! ^^
[15:57] <Hrafn> Thanks for the help, Synthead and MonkeyDust.
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> !yay| Hrafn
[15:57]  * MonkeyDust off now
[15:57] <Hrafn> Now, what to do with those 30GB of swap space?
[15:57] <Hrafn> Again, thanks for the help.
[15:58] <Guest8572> !list
[15:59] <vk> hi
[15:59] <Synthead> Hrafn: excellent!
[16:00] <Synthead> Hrafn: putting that in /etc/fstab like that will ensure that ubuntu will see it as swap all the time, too
[16:00] <parapa> ciao
[16:00] <Hrafn> Good, good.
[16:00] <parapa> come state
[16:00] <Hrafn> So I'm considering adding another 40GB of swap space - would that amount to overkill?
[16:00] <on3pk> Does ubuntu have a tool to write an ISO to a thumbdrive
[16:01] <Synthead> Hrafn: hahaha.  if you want to run like 100 instances of minecraft servers, no ;)
[16:01] <bazhang> on3pk, unetbootin
[16:01] <Hrafn> Well, I'll be off. You'll probably see me in here a few days from now. I keep having problems due to my inexperienced ways.
[16:02] <on3pk> bazhang: it looks like that should let me "burn" the Windows 8 Pre-Release ISO I have?
[16:02] <bazhang> on3pk, ask in ##windows for that
[16:04] <cmaiz82> hi all
[16:04] <cmaiz82> please some help to me?
[16:04] <cmaiz82> unity not show the icons
[16:05] <r0sh> cmaiz82, try installing gnome-tweak-tool and checking icons from it.
[16:06] <cmaiz82> ok r0sh i'll try it and comment
[16:06] <cmaiz82> :)
[16:06] <l_r> oh interesting
[16:06] <l_r> i have the same problems with gnome
[16:07] <l_r> it does not show the icons on the dock-panel
[16:07] <cmaiz82> don't work i change it but nothing happen
[16:08] <cmaiz82> shell theme appear with yellow triangle
[16:09] <r0sh> cmaiz82, well, there's a way, but I am not sure, if it's good. Remove your .config, .gnome2 directories, and restart your computer.
[16:09] <r0sh> Maybe, take a backup of that somewhere before you remove them.
[16:09] <cmaiz82> ok i'll try it now
[16:09] <cmaiz82> thank you
[16:09] <cmaiz82> :)
[16:10] <r0sh> I am still not sure. Just give it a shot.
[16:11] <XVampireX> Hello, can anyone help with this problem? It just suddenly happened... http://postimage.org/image/wvkwk0t8j/
[16:12] <cmaiz82> don't worry r0sh if not work, i'll reinstall anyway
[16:12] <XVampireX> moo
[16:13] <r0sh> cmaiz82, re-install is not the way.. That will work, I guess. Let me know what happens.
[16:13] <XVampireX> http://postimage.org/image/wvkwk0t8j/
[16:13] <XVampireX> the unity bar
[16:13] <XVampireX> no icons
[16:13] <extrasolar> this is a problem many people have
[16:13] <extrasolar> gnome-shell installed?
[16:14] <XVampireX> I doubt that the fact that I'm using beta drivers of intel gma
[16:14] <XVampireX> is the problem
[16:14] <XVampireX> I've got icons everywhere else, just no on the unity bar
[16:14] <XVampireX> no gnome shell is definitely not installed
[16:14] <extrasolar> install it
[16:14] <XVampireX> why
[16:14] <extrasolar> unity needs it
[16:14] <r0sh> XVampireX, Did you try Unity 2D?
[16:14] <XVampireX> yes
[16:14] <XVampireX> there are icons in unity 2d
[16:15] <extrasolar> oh driver issue?
[16:15] <XVampireX> could it really be?
[16:15] <r0sh> XVampireX, I don't think so..
[16:15] <XVampireX> Well neither do I
[16:16] <XVampireX> oh and gnome shell is installed, sorry
[16:17] <extrasolar> Well I had this problem before
[16:17] <extrasolar> have you got a nivida driver?
[16:18] <extrasolar> two fixes I know, first does guest have 3d working?
[16:18] <extrasolar> it may be a profile problem
[16:18] <extrasolar> if not use an older nivida driver
[16:18] <extrasolar> alternatively type /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p to see if you can use 3d
[16:19] <danielboston26> Synthead: may i pm you? im having a  issue
[16:19] <Meikel> Hey guys. I search a Programm for the Terminal where i can time in ( Search ......) ans he gave me everything he find. Somebody know one ?
[16:19] <Synthead> danielboston26: better to ask here
[16:19] <extrasolar> OR another issue could be compiz may be crasing
[16:20] <danielboston26> Synthead: i cannot edit that file because its on a dvd how do i do it?
[16:20] <Synthead> danielboston26: edit what file?
[16:21] <danielboston26> Synthead: if you remember i asked how do i add intremap=off to the kernel parameters
[16:21] <Synthead> danielboston26: you're trying to edit the contents of a dvd?
[16:21] <shaneo> Hi guys..what is the best method for converting fat32 to ntfs/ext3 file system without data loss
[16:21] <danielboston26> Synthead: i have the os on a dvd
[16:21] <minimec> Meikel: If I understand you well, you want 'locate'. First update the database: 'sudo updatedb'. Then 'locate "your expression"
[16:21] <Synthead> shaneo: back up, create fs, copy
[16:21] <danielboston26> Synthead: the question is how do i edit that file
[16:22] <danielboston26> Synthead: to be able to boot
[16:22] <extrasolar> vi
[16:22] <Synthead> danielboston26: you can't if it's on a dvd
[16:22] <shaneo> Synthead, there isnt enough room on my pc to back up my ext
[16:22] <Synthead> danielboston26: you can use ddrescue or something to create an image, mount the image r/w, edit it, then burn the image
[16:22] <Synthead> danielboston26: or, when you see the menu pop up on your dvd, edit the line there
[16:22] <shaneo> Synthead, theres no way to convert without data loss?
[16:23] <Synthead> danielboston26: you'll have to do it every time the machine boots though
[16:23] <Synthead> shaneo: what do you mean by "ntfs/ext3" ?
[16:23] <danielboston26> how would i create the image?
[16:24] <shaneo> Synthead, i have an ext hdd that is fat32 and i want to convert it to ntfs or ext3 partition so i can store 4GB+ without losing the data in the process
[16:24] <Synthead> danielboston26: I like ddrescue just because :)  ddrescue /dev/cdrom image.iso
[16:24] <Synthead> danielboston26: I think ddrescue is a part of gddrescue
[16:24] <Synthead> shaneo: you cannot convert fat32 to ext3, but I know you can convert fat32 to ntfs from windows.  not sure in linux.
[16:24] <zilla_> where is my bash_profile?
[16:25] <Synthead> zilla: ~/.bash_profile
[16:25] <zilla_> Synthead:
[16:25] <zilla_> i have made a new profile titled "red"
[16:25] <zilla_> where is that file?
[16:25] <shaneo> Synthead, and this can happen in windows without loss of data..I have a windows vm i could use for the process if that is sp
[16:25] <zilla_> it is not listed
[16:25] <shaneo> *so
[16:25] <zilla_> where is my bash_profile located in *ubuntu 12*
[16:26] <Synthead> zilla: /home/red/.bash_profile.  ~ means "current user's home dir"
[16:26] <minimec> !de | Meikel
[16:26] <Synthead> zilla: if it doesn't exist, create it
[16:26] <zilla_> Synthead:
[16:26] <zilla_> yes that is a great idea
[16:26] <Synthead> zilla: the global profile is /etc/profile and it should also source everything in /etc/profile.d
[16:26] <zilla_> but there is no option to "load" profiles
[16:26] <danielboston26> thanks Synthead
[16:27] <Synthead> zilla: what do you mean by "load a profile" ?
[16:27] <zilla_> in bash terminal, edit --> profiles
[16:27] <zilla_> you have
[16:27] <zilla_> new, edit, delete
[16:27] <dryicebomb> shaneo: the command in windows is convert VOLUME /FS:NTFS
[16:27] <Synthead> danielboston26: np.  I know that was just brushing the surface, though, so don't be afraid to ask questions
[16:27] <zilla_> no load
[16:27] <Synthead> zilla: vim ~/.bash_profile
[16:27] <danielboston26> Synthead: i want to see if i can take it from here
[16:27] <Synthead> zilla: the "profile" is just a file
[16:27] <Synthead> danielboston26: good luck my friend
[16:28] <shaneo> dryicebomb, :) just found that thanks...and is it guaranteed i wont lose data?
[16:28] <zilla_> lol vim
[16:28] <zilla_> /etc/profile
[16:28] <zilla_> thank you
[16:28] <rodger_nc> I have an ISO file in DVD creator - I do not want to copy the iso I want to make the equivalent disk.  Do I click "Extract here" to make  the disc into what the ISO equivalent.
[16:28] <dryicebomb> nothing is garunteed. but i've run it a dozen times or so without data loss
[16:28] <Synthead> zilla: /etc/profile will modify the bash profile system-wide.  make sure that's what you want to do
[16:29] <shaneo> dryicebomb, :) good enough for me...thanks so much for the help
[16:30] <erfu> Hello all, I created an ext4 partition on my USB harddrive using gparted. Now when I plug it in to Ubuntu 12.04, I don't have write access. I suspect I can fix this in fstab, but shouldn't any USB drive be mounted by my user by default? Is there something fundementally wrong with the partition I created?
[16:30] <zykotick9> erfu: actually, change the mount points permission...
[16:31] <erfu> Hm, so I should try chmod on /media/mydrivename?
[16:31] <zykotick9> erfu: fstab is only required for permissions when you use FAT/NTFS (none native filesystems)
[16:31] <rodger_nc> I downloaded the 12.04 ISO image.  Now I want to create the 12.04 boot disk from the image.  I moved the iso to the dvd area in dvd creator.  do I click extract here to make the 12.04 disk?
[16:32] <erfu> I see. Going to try chmod now.
[16:32] <dawitgabor> hello there!
[16:32] <dawitgabor> I just installed Ubuntu, some tips_
[16:33] <erfu> zykotick9, I see that my ext4 drive is owned by root in /media. Another random USB drive I plug in (FAT32) is owned by my user.
[16:34] <zykotick9> erfu: if it's ext4 - change the owner then.
[16:34] <savask> Hello. I changed my nvidia driver to nvidia-current-updates and now all fonts are blurry, and they don't become clear even when I change the driver back. How do I reset my font settings, or something like that? I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.
[16:35] <dawitgabor> hi, just installed ubuntu. Some tips?
[16:35] <zykotick9> dawitgabor: do you have a real question?  if so ask it.
[16:35] <dawitgabor> real question_
[16:36] <erfu> zykotick9, I did that, and it did remember it when I replugged the drive. So its all good on this computer. But lets say I plug this into another computer; won't I be able to write to it unless I change the owner?
[16:36] <erfu> That seems to defeat the concept of a portable drive to me
[16:36] <dawitgabor> are you guys hackers_
[16:36] <dawitgabor> ?
[16:36] <zykotick9> erfu: perhaps you should use FAT then...
[16:37] <erfu> zykotick9, hm yeah, I guess you're right. It's an easy fix anyway. I dont know much about file systems and thought that USB drives were always owned by the local user. Thanks for the help!
[16:38] <erfu> I guess only less advanced file systems will behave like I want to.
[16:39] <sam-lap> hi, how i can simulate a double click into a file through comand line ?
[16:40] <CC_Inc> Hi, I am using alsamixer for sound, however, now I cannot set my master sound through ubuntu.
[16:40] <trism> sam-lap: depending on what you are trying to do: xdotool click --repeat=2 button;
[16:40] <CC_Inc> And there are no output devices in my sound settings.
[16:41] <zykotick9> CC_Inc: in alsamixer, see if F6 allows you to select a different card/output
[16:41] <zykotick9> CC_Inc: have you attempted to remove pulse?
[16:42] <CC_Inc> I have disabled it, by setting auto_spawn to no. My output devices are default and hda intel
[16:42] <vicky> how to change close maximize and minimize button to right side of the window in 12.04 version?
[16:42] <zykotick9> !controls | vicky
[16:42] <helpz> Hi there i'm installing ubuntu alongside windows, I'm in the installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..
[16:42] <helpz> will the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?
[16:43] <disown> if you have an old distro are relatively old by ubuntu standards like Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[16:43] <disown> Description:	Ubuntu lucid (development branch)
[16:43] <disown> Release:	10.04
[16:43] <disown> Codename:	lucid
[16:43] <disown>  I am wondering do they have the same software in the lucid repo's. Or if not can you uses the newer ubuntus repo's when no problems simple by adding it to the source.lst like usual or thru the gui
[16:43] <FloodBot1> disown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <rodger_nc> Found how to do it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto/
[16:44] <helpz> ?
[16:44] <helpz> Hi there i'm installing ubuntu alongside windows, I'm in the installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..
[16:44] <helpz> will the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?
[16:44] <disown> What I am getting at is if you don't update your kernel / operating system can you still uses 99% of the newer repo's stuff
[16:45] <ripthejacker> how do I minimise games in wine?
[16:45] <zykotick9> CC_Inc: if you disable pulse - expect things not to work...
[16:45] <CC_Inc> Well, I am using alsamixer, because the microphone was not working in Pulse for skype.
[16:45] <pb|away> ripthejacker: #winehq
[16:46] <disown> And onces a distro is old does that mean its repo doesn't get updated with new software ? For instance if you are using an old distro that uses the lucid repo would that get updated with the newest version of gcc when it comes out or is it just the newest ubuntus repos that get new updates/software add normally?
[16:47] <helpz> during ubuntu 12.04 installation part where im choosing to drag the bar to allocate the size of the partition it will make. but Im not sure which side is which..
[16:47] <helpz> will the size on the left be to my windows? and the right to ubuntu?
[16:47] <helpz> anyone
[16:47] <helpz> installing alongside
[16:48] <sam-lap> trism im using wine and now i need somehow to "double click" into a file through command line
[16:48] <pb|away> helpz: depends on which you say put first.
[16:48] <sam-lap> is that possible ?
[16:48] <helpz> windows was first, so i believe it's sda1
[16:48] <trism> sam-lap: I don't really understand what you are trying to do
[16:48] <vicky> how to place the task bar at bottom?
[16:49] <pb|away> helpz: when applying a partition your asked which to put first.
[16:49] <disown> helpz are you saying when the newer ubuntu distro repo's get software add they also add it to the old repo's by default to make it available in those repo's to. Sort of like it mirror's it on all the repo's just curious because I don't want to mis out on software
[16:50] <pb|away> vicky: unity taskbar launcher requires 3d settings to customize. Kde utilizes bottom or top based task bars for 2d graphics. perhaps check it out.
[16:50] <ico> #join physics
[16:50] <helpz> it's during ubuntu installation, the option to install alongside windows,  it give be a bar in which to move left or right to choose how large to split into a windows partition and a linux partition
[16:50] <helpz> im not sure which side, whill be which after I choose the size,  i do not want them to be even
[16:51] <Guest82961> hello ubuntu developers :)
[16:51] <zykotick9> ico: it's "/join #channel"
[16:51] <disown> If I had a definite yes or no I could sleep better at night knowing I didn't have to add a repo
[16:51] <pb|away> vicky: in the kde DE you right click the task bar and select task manager settings..
[16:51] <ico> zykotick9: yeah. typo. :p :)
[16:51] <DanS> Heya, I'm completely new to ubuntu and I have a question which I'm hoping is easy to answer.
[16:51] <pb|away> oops I lide.. panal settings
[16:51] <pb|away> vicky: oops panel options.. my bad
[16:52] <disown> can anybody answer that for 100% sure
[16:52] <pb|away> vicky: first the panel must be set to "unlocked"
[16:52] <ripthejacker> Someone using wine please help. How do i minimize fullscreen apps in wine.
[16:52] <zykotick9> ripthejacker: depends if the app supports it - try alt+enter
[16:53] <vicky> can u please explain me clearly.. i am new to ubuntu..
[16:53] <pb|away> ripthejacker: please post wine questions in the channel #winehq
[16:53] <ripthejacker> zykotick9, it works in windows. So it should work in wine too, shouldn't it?
[16:53] <helpz> pbjaway:   please look at this
[16:53] <ripthejacker> pb|away, i did but there is no activity over there
[16:53] <helpz> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshotfrom201208111.png/
[16:53] <helpz> or someone,
[16:53] <zykotick9> ripthejacker: usually, but as pb|away states, ask in #winehq
[16:54] <DanS> I've got a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 installed.. and I'm trying to install a touch screen monitor.  Drivers do exist for it but only for kernel version 2.4 -2.6.  I believe ubuntu 12.04 is kernel version 3.2. And thus certain header files in the GCC compiler have gone since then etc.
[16:54] <helpz> I just want to know which side will be which after, Windows was installed first on sda1, its the only partition, I assume it willbe left side
[16:54] <pb|away> vicky: are you using ubuntu or KDE?
[16:54] <pb|away> vicky: for your desktop .
[16:54] <vicky> ubuntu 12.04
[16:54] <DanS> The drivers i'm talking about are here: http://www.elotouch.com/support/downloads/dnld.asp  and have to be installed seperately..  Am I out of luck or is there a way to compile for older kernel versions?
[16:55] <helpz> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshotfrom201208111.png/
[16:55] <helpz> simple question..  furstrating.
[16:55] <helpz> which side is which
[16:55] <helpz> windows, installed first, sda1, its the only patition, will ubuntu be the right side of the allocation bar?
[16:56] <shenaniganz> hi, using ubuntu server 12.04, tried to remove the openjdk-7-jre and instead of removing it completely it also wants to install openjdk6, tried using purge, didnt help as well, anyone knows how to delete the java perm.?
[16:56] <DanS> helpz, i'd imagine so. But you probably need a swap disc too unless its automatically installing that.
[16:56] <helpz> is no one going to answer me for fuck sakes?
[16:56] <xangua> !language | helpz
[16:56] <helpz> im sure its an easy question.. im not even going to install it, go fuck yourselfs
[16:56] <linlin> not with that attitude :p
[16:57] <helpz> all of you
[16:57] <tiphares> so, how can i get the IP of the users connected through ssh in a CLI?
[16:57] <DanS> Hah. wow.
[16:57] <linlin> tiphares, w
[16:57] <pb|away> helpz: you can set what you wish to come first..
[16:57] <Pici> tiphares: netstat can tell you
[16:58] <pb|away> allready said that.. btw. way to listen
[16:58] <pb|away> op sets mode +b helpz
[16:58] <tiphares> (i asked this earlier but mirc crashed) :(
[16:58] <linlin> tiphares, w
[16:58] <tiphares> Pici oke, should've thought of that. linlin: w ?
[16:59] <tiphares> oh
[16:59] <tiphares> :O
[16:59] <linlin> #w {enter}
[16:59] <tiphares> yeah
[16:59] <tiphares> awesome. haha
[16:59] <tiphares> thanks
[16:59] <FloodBot1> tiphares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <linlin> lol
[16:59] <minimec> DanS: Did you try to use the standard elo touch driver in 12.04. I have a forum thread here (in german), where someone seems to be using the 'standard' driver in 12.04...
[17:00] <shada> hello
[17:00] <DanS> minimec: Which standard elo one?  Could be something i've missed.
[17:00] <shada> when changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line
[17:01] <Darkenvy> hello my install is ASCII and the background is red. what does that mean? I had to use the "Alternative install disk" to fit it onto a 700mb CD as the regular was 780mb
[17:01] <shada> what file is being changed?
[17:01] <Darkenvy> so I guess my question is: what is the alternative install vs a normal desktop install?
[17:01] <shenaniganz> Darkenvy, it prolly means you're installing server instea of desktop
[17:01] <minimec> DanS: Looks like he has a screen of the C-series http://elotouch.com/Products/Computers/cseries/default.asp
[17:01] <shada> when changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line
[17:01] <shada> what file is being changed?
[17:02] <minimec> DanS: He is talking about 'the standard ELoTouch Linux driver"
[17:02] <shada> when changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line
[17:02] <Pici> !alternate | Darkenvy
[17:02] <shada> what file is being changed?
[17:03] <shada> when changing my bash profile ---> CURSOR from BLOCK to |-line
[17:03] <DanS> This one's significantly older than that.
[17:03] <shada> what file is being changed?
[17:03] <shenaniganz> shada, if for all users it'll be in /etc/profile.d for you i think its ~/.bashrc
[17:03] <shada> shenaniganz:
[17:03] <shada> just my guy
[17:03] <shada> cheer
[17:03] <shada> s
[17:03] <FloodBot1> shada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <sporkboy> ok, in power settings: show battery status is blank. I can change it, but it never shows, and when I go back it's blank again. I'm guessing it's messed up in a config file somewhere. How do I fix this? I don't know where that file would be.
[17:03] <CC_Inc> Please, can anyone help?
[17:04] <minimec> DanS: I guess he uses the one you mention. It could be, that EloTouch did not update the indications about the 'working kernels'. Maybe that driver just works with any Linux kernel after 2.2 ;)
[17:04] <Danno_> Good morning.
[17:04] <shenaniganz> hi, noob question plz, using ubuntu server 12.04, tried to remove the openjdk-7-jre and instead of removing it completely it also wants to install openjdk6, tried using purge, didnt help as well, anyone knows how to delete the java perm.?
[17:05] <Darkenvy> pici, I'm installing PowerPC ubuntu 10.10 on a G4 Powerbook. Where can I get yaboot support? This is the second time im installing due to my messing it up
[17:06] <Darkenvy> !yaboot
[17:06] <shenaniganz> Darkenvy: you wont get flash
[17:06] <minimec> DanS: If you look here, the pre-built drivers stop with 8.04... http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/Linux/dnld_linux.asp
[17:06] <Darkenvy> flash is not my worries :)
[17:06] <shenaniganz> ok :)
[17:06] <Darkenvy> however isnt there icedtea?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> Darkenvy, that release is end of life
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[17:07] <Darkenvy> I know however for graphical reasons I cannot get a newer biuld on the powerbook. please dont stop helping me XD
[17:07] <shenaniganz> hmm, im not updated on its status, last i installed jaunty jackalope on g4 and it had no flash support :)
[17:07] <DanS> Minimic: You I know that.  But is there a way of installing the generic driver on 12.04?
[17:07] <Danno_> I am trying to use [4xSATA->md RAID5->dm-crypt->LVM] on a new install of Precise. It installs OK, but performance is slow and erratic.
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Darkenvy, I doubt that is the case.
[17:08] <Danno_> With [4xSata->RAID4->ext4] my array sustains 100MB/s write indefinitely.
[17:08] <Darkenvy> Either way, yaboot will be used for pwoerpc as it is the 'newworld bootloader'. I am having complications because I dualboot OSX 10.4/10.5 as well as boot linux. Yaboot only gives me 2 options and OSX breaks the bootloader
[17:08] <Danno_> With [4xSATA->RAID5->LVM] it sustains 100MB/s write indefinitely.
[17:09] <Darkenvy> because it wants to boot into 10.4 and if I choose to "reboot OSX in 10.5" then yaboot doesnt appear. thus no more linux booting
[17:09] <ferni> Danno_: is the raid array synced already?
[17:09] <ferni> or rebuilt, i mean
[17:09] <Darkenvy> so am I in the wrong channel for yaboot bootloader support? (powerPC bootloader support)
[17:09] <Donnie> hi i have a little question - where do I find this tool shown in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDmPGuzKi9s
[17:09] <shenaniganz> hehe
[17:09] <Danno_> When I slip dm-crypt into that, it will pull 100MB/s for ~2 seconds, then freeze the machine for ~90 seconds. Then it will pull another 100MB/sec... Lather, rinse, repeat.
[17:09] <pb|away> rm -rf addonpath.. ?
[17:09] <Danno_> Gives an effective throughput of ~15MB/s.
[17:09] <danielboston26> is Synthead still here?
[17:10] <shenaniganz> Darkenvy: you should research why you only get 2 mount options
[17:10] <shenaniganz> boot that is
[17:10] <Danno_> Has anyone seen that before? I've been scouring Google/Launchpad/KML/etc for the last three days and haven't run across anything useful.
[17:11] <Darkenvy> I am having a really hard time finding information on yaboot and 'open-firmware'
[17:12] <minimec> DanS: If I read here http://www.elotouch.com/files/install/Elo-Linux-USB-v3.5.2_Installation-Instructions.txt , it looks like you don't have to compile anything to make the driver work. You need to 'embed it' into your current installation. Only thing you need is 'libmotif4' and 'libusb'
[17:12] <shenaniganz> Darkenvy: http://mac.linux.be/content/yaboot
[17:12] <Danno_> ferni: Yes. Long since. I built the array and went to bed. Installed the next night. :)
[17:13] <DanS> oh! sorry. I forgot to mention.  It's serial.  Serial connected via USB, but on windows at least I had to install the serial version of the software.
[17:13] <Darkenvy> one last thing: if yaboot doesnt come up, how do I fix that? that link goes into detail about the yaboot configuration
[17:14] <shenaniganz> have a livecd ready
[17:15] <Darkenvy> ummm
[17:16] <Darkenvy> powerpc booting is a hassle. if I wanted to fix yaboot I know it would be in open-firmware
[17:17] <DanS> minimec: Unless linux would interpret usb -> serial cable as usb instead of serial like windows does.. I'm really not sure.
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Danno_, I see nothing on the web as far a download of this tool, I suspect it is not really available. Ubuntu has wikis on making custom cd's though it is a bit more complicated then a purdy gui.
[17:18] <_TJ_> Danno_: Does the system use a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel?
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> Danno_, there is also remastersys that will pack a install to a cd /dvd that you have tweaked to your liking.
[17:19] <Danno_> This is on a (mainly) file server, so I could live with 15MB/s write speeds. What I can't live with is the 90-second freezes. My Lucid machine does not do this. If I can't find a fix, I'll have to stay with Lucid.
[17:19] <rodgerr_nc> cloning my 12.04 system with clonezilla working nicely but saw a lot of errors as it grabbed data from old disk
[17:19] <Danno_> TJ: 64.
[17:20] <DanS> minimec: and unfortunately the serial drivers come with some c code that needs to be compiled.. but makefiles only exist for kernels 2.4 and 2.6
[17:20] <mooseone> hello everyone
[17:20] <_TJ_> Danno_: Almost all of these problems are caused by dm-crypt re-ordering block IOs to an extreme degree (as shown by blktrace), such that it is very hard for the raid layer to merge them in to full stripes, leading to many extra reads and writes.  There are minor problems with losing io_context and seeking for CFQ, but they have far less impact.
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> oops  sorry Danno_  Donnie I see nothing on the web as far a download of this tool, I suspect it is not really available. Ubuntu has wikis on making custom cd's though it is a bit more complicated then a  gui.  there is also remastersys that will pack a install to a cd /dvd that you have tweaked to your liking.
[17:21] <rodgerr_nc> this is the first time I have used my android icecream transformer to log into an irc - nice
[17:22] <Danno_> _TJ_:  Are there any tuneables to mitigate that?
[17:22] <minimec> DanS: Ok. I see. Indeed it looks like you have to compile elok_s.(k)o kernel modules for the serial driver. That could be a problem.
[17:23] <_TJ_> Danno_: I'm not aware of anything but then again I've never really needed it so not looked
[17:24] <juniour> hi guys in setting there is privicy i clicked on recording
[17:24] <juniour> but where to find recorded data in  ubuntu 12.04lts
[17:24] <juniour> plz help
[17:25] <Danno_> _TJ_: I saw the same behavior with both [SATA->RAID->dm-crypt->LVM] and [SATA->RAID->LVM->dm-crypt]. With the dm-crypt being the top layer, it shouldn't be doing that much reordering should it? I can see it doing so when it is the third layer....
[17:25] <_TJ_> Danno_: I know that if you encrypt the block devices and then put a file-system on top of them, it'll be faster than a encrypting a file-system on top of block devices. The reason being, the encryption runs in a single thread per block device.
[17:25] <DanS> minimic: Indeed. Is there any way around this other than modifying the source code, or installing an older version of ubuntu?
[17:25] <_TJ_> Danno_: Can you test it with dmcrypt  > RAID > LVM ?
[17:26] <Danno_> _TJ_: [4xSATA->4xdm-crypt->RAID->LVM] ?
[17:26] <juniour> hi guys how to know tha some has eplored your pc
[17:26] <rodgerr_nc> once the clone from the 750gig to the 1000 gig is done, how do I recapture the extra 250 gig on the new disk?
[17:26] <juniour> is there nay recorded activity so you can judge some on has opend your pc
[17:27] <juniour> and which file he/she has opend
[17:27] <DanS> minimec: I guess I could always try the USB drivers on the off chance that they work.  But with needing serial on windows, i suspect this is the same, even with the serial > usb adapter.
[17:27] <juniour> any idea guys
[17:27] <_TJ_> Danno_:  As I just said, the problem is that dmcrpyt runs one thread per block device. If you've got 4 disks then 4 threads will run simultaneously. If you have one block device encrypted then you'll have one thread running dmcrypt
[17:28] <Danno_> _TJ_: I was afraid you'd say that. Have been considering that, but don't want to have to type four passphrases at boot, and don't want to have an external keyfile. (On USB, etc.)
[17:28] <_TJ_> Danno_: It's not guaranteed and I know its a pain, but it is a known bottleneck for some workloads
[17:29] <minimec> DanS: serial > usb is problably correctly recognized as serial port. You can try that yourself. Plug the adapter into the usb port and do 'dmesg' in a terminal. The last few lines of the output should indicate, how the adapter is recognized by ubuntu, and what /dev/ttySX is used.
[17:30] <_TJ_> Danno_: you have a single encrypted volume that when unlocked reveals a keyfile ... I've done that in the past
[17:30] <_TJ_> minimec: for serial to USB converters the device is more often /dev/ttyUSB*
[17:30] <rodgerr_nc> almost done with the clone still seeing DRDY ERR
[17:30] <martin_> Hey everybody, I just installed Xubuntu 11.10 and Im using Krusader. Before Xubuntu I had Kubuntu 12.04. Now krusader uses all icons from KDE, I dont know how, I formated the partition where I Xubuntu placed. Any ideas?
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, clonezilla is a packaged clone for re installation, you know this correct?
[17:31] <minimec> _TJ_: Interesting...
[17:31] <ClientAlive> I have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?
[17:31] <rodgerr_nc> clonezilla is cloning from one harddrive to another
[17:32] <_TJ_> minimec: I use one for getting to early boot kernel consoles when testing kernel builds on various hardware
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, correct but it will not be in the same form it started in.
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> the reinstall of it does this
[17:33] <martin_> I was kicked
[17:33] <rodgerr_nc> meaning?   All I need to do is have a drive I can boot from if something happens to the first drive...
[17:33] <Kihokki> How can I make my Synaptics touchpad move faster vertically?
[17:33] <rodgerr_nc> with all my data
[17:34] <rodgerr_nc> a backup of sorts
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, clonezilla clones the original in packages not a straight across copy that will be usable except to reinstall the clone.
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> Then it is bootable
[17:36] <rodgerr_nc> great - so you are telling me clonezilla is simply creating a type of zip file?
[17:37] <DanS> Minimec / _TJ_ : Yeah, it's actually listed as /dev/ttyUSB0.  But would that require USB drivers or serial?  As on windows it was serial.
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, yes
[17:38] <_TJ_> DanS: It you see it there, no driver is required, it's good to go
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> excellent tool though rodgerr_nc
[17:38] <martin_> can anybody help? krusader uses icons from previous OS (Kubuntu 12.04, now running Xubuntu) I have formated partition
[17:38] <sagredo> hello friends of freedom
[17:38] <ClientAlive> I have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?
[17:38] <_TJ_> DanS: For example, when I use it I do: "screen -L /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixon,istrip"
[17:39] <minimec> DanS: Well... In that case I would give the USB driver a try. Well I guess it is worth a try. You can only win. And as you don't have to compile anything...
[17:39] <rodgerr_nc> OK - so instead I should do what to create a duplicate of my hard drive on the second drive to have as a backup
[17:39] <sagredo> i have a soundblaster audigy card that is not working
[17:39] <sagredo> doea anyone have experience with audio devices/drivers?
[17:39] <DanS> _TJ_: is that for touch screen stuff?  I can certainly try it.
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, I have not really done that just cloned for reinstall so others familiar there can help.
[17:40] <DanS> minimec: I'll try what _TJ_ is saying else I'll try the USB drivers.
[17:40] <_TJ_> DanS: the /dev/ttyUSB0 is a standard serial device
[17:40] <_TJ_> DanS: it can be opened just the same as /dev/ttyS* devices
[17:41] <_TJ_> DanS: The clue is in the "tty" part of the device name
[17:41] <minimec> DanS: ok. I wish you success...
[17:42] <_TJ_> DanS: And, if I read back correctly and see mention of ELO - you're trying to use it with an ELO touchscreen. I have one right next to me on an external monitor, and I connected it to this PC using my own USB<>serial converter
[17:42] <BlueManGroup> hi
[17:42] <vincent__> ik wil iets doen volgens deze manual http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/
[17:43] <minimec> DanS: Looks like you are in good hands with _TJ_ ;)
[17:43] <idefix> maar op het eind staat er dat je iets moet downloaden
[17:43] <Danno_> _TJ_: Thanks for the input. Going to wander off and mess with some different layouts. Might just end up with dm-crypt at the bottom of the stack.
[17:43] <idefix> maar dat werkt bij mij nooit, alleen dingen via de repos werken
[17:43] <_TJ_> minimec: Famous last words :p
[17:43] <idefix> hey damn this is english
[17:43] <minimec> _TJ_: Indeed ;)
[17:43] <_TJ_> Danno_: good luck ... and please report back if you have success, it'd be good to know
[17:43] <idefix> I'm trying to switch sound system
[17:43] <BlueManGroup> whats up
[17:43] <idefix> according to this link
[17:43] <idefix> maar op het eind staat er dat je iets moet dow
[17:43] <idefix> kut
[17:44] <FloodBot1> idefix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <_TJ_> !nl
[17:45] <sagredo> i have a soundblaster audigy card that is not working
[17:45] <sagredo> doea anyone have experience with audio devices/drivers?
[17:45] <sagredo> where to start?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, If this helps what I do is backup my home with a grsync this is a rsync gui that saves as is, and then I clone the OS, I keep my stuff I don't want to loose on a external anyway. If you have two identical HD's, you don't want them being seen by the bootloader it will get confused.
[17:46] <DanS> _TJ_: It comes up saying "Sorry, no PTY"
[17:48] <rodgerr_nc> in widowz you can format a disk and repair or fix the bad spots with format /r - how do you do this in ubuntu
[17:49] <sagredo> hi
[17:49] <catholic> hi
[17:49] <sagredo> ubuntu is using my onboard sound over my soundcard
[17:49] <defigo> rodgerr_nc, use mkfs
[17:50] <sagredo> is there a sound settings?
[17:51] <martin_> can anybody help? krusader uses icons from previous OS (Kubuntu 12.04, now running Xubuntu) I have formated partition
[17:52] <minimec> sagredo: gnome-control-center --> audio?
[17:53] <minimec> sagredo: Check the 'output' tab
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, ubuntu and linux will reload clones but a fix has to be done manually, there are no last working saves, as far as I know.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> !rsync | rodgerr_nc
[17:55] <DanS> _TJ_ Okay.. i assume a PTY is a pseudoterminal? And in the command "screen -L /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixon,istrip" You're actually running a whole bunch of them?
[17:58] <XiRoN> When you login into SSH does it take longer to login for security reasons or does it genuinely need to get 4 seconds to login, if not how can I make SSH logins instant?
[17:58] <Pessimist> Where can I find old flash player plug-in for Linux which supports acceleration for nvidia graphical cards?
[17:58] <Pessimist> graphic*
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> rodgerr_nc, you might try the ##linux channel and explain what you are trying to do as well.
[17:59] <L3top> nemysis: Pessimist there is none.
[17:59] <Pessimist> There is, on some version they removed accleration for nvidia gpus
[18:01] <minimec> Pessimist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91932/why-doesnt-adobe-flash-player-11-x-have-hardware-acceleration
[18:01] <TaJMoX> I want to make a partition to just store my music and movie files on. Should I make it ext2, ext4, or fat32?
[18:01] <Chaddy> HI THERE ,
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, if you want to share with a MS setup I would use a NTFS, otherwise a ext4
[18:02] <Chaddy> I WAS WONDERING if  any one know how to configure HUAWEI E3131 Dongle under ubuntu 12.04
[18:02] <Chaddy> HI THERE ,
[18:03] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee I am going to go for FAT32 because I am going to be sharing.
[18:03] <TaJMoX> wille-nilee Is NTFS r/w totally stable now in Linux?
[18:03] <Pessimist> minimec, yeah but where can I find an older version?
[18:03] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee*
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, has been for me.
[18:03] <TaJMoX> =\
[18:03] <TaJMoX> That's not the question but thanks wilee-nilee =)
[18:04] <Chaddy> HEYYYY
[18:04] <Chaddy> :d
[18:04] <Chaddy> :D
[18:04] <Chaddy> PPL DO ANY ONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND SOMTHING RELATED TO HUAWEI E3131
[18:04] <Calahan_> mate *chill*
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, Yes a NTFS r/w is considered stable.
[18:05] <Chaddy> JOIN #ubuntuforum
[18:05] <minimec> Pessimist: maybe here http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
[18:05] <Chaddy> JOIN #ubuntu-forum
[18:06] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee I have had problems before where I have to boot into Windows and run chkdsk /f in order to mount it... but I don't have Windows on this machine.
[18:06] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee has that ever happened to you before?
[18:07] <Hrafn> So apparently, the sound settings in 12.04 can't imagine someone using mono sound these days... How can one set it to mono?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, No, I have run chkdsk's on occasion but not for mounting
[18:07] <ClientAlive> I have a problem with my wireless connection and don't know how to solve it. I can't get any networking at all unless I plug the ethernet cable into the computer when I boot up. Being a laptop, I can't use it outside my own home because of this. Can someone help me fix this?
[18:07] <andrew2325> i have a question for anyone willing to answer
[18:08] <xangua> !ask | andrew2325
[18:08] <L3top> Pessimist: As near as I can tell, the last version with accel was 10.2.161.23
[18:09] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee Thanks again for your opinion. I will be using ntfs. Mostly because maximum file size is larger than 4GB.
[18:09] <andrew2325> lspci laptop dude
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, I keep my setups spit clean and shiny, and rarely use the windows setup anyway really only for the Word program when needed. The share partition I have is just a avoidance of running my externals more then needed.
[18:09] <andrew2325> figure out which chipset your wifi uses
[18:10] <TaJMoX> wilee-nilee Have you considered using a vm instead of bootable partition for Windows, when you need to run Word?
[18:10] <andrew2325> my question is related to rerouting my ldconfig to ignore the 32bit libraries installed?
[18:10] <minimec> Hrafn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1384860
[18:10] <andrew2325> and maybe making bash recognize them
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> TaJMoX, I have only 2 gigs ram max so W7 runs to clunky, as well so does the XP, I want it to run as fast as the linux setups.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> older toshiba laptop is all
[18:11] <TaJMoX> I see.
[18:12] <TaJMoX> Well, cya.
[18:12] <andrew2325> you need word wilee-nilee?
[18:12] <andrew2325> i take it you already tried wine?
[18:15] <sachael> anyone knows some software that can create and export (to png) good-looking gantt charts? Using gnumberic/libreoffice is kind of clunky
[18:17] <Pessimist> It still hogs my cpu :(
[18:17] <danielboston26> is Synthead still here?
[18:17] <andrew2325> I have some things I need to do outside.  I'm worn out, and the work never stops it seems.  later
[18:18] <danielboston26> what is the syntax for ddrescue?
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> hehe wine why even bother I ask
[18:18] <danielboston26> i want to make a image of my dvd
[18:19] <danielboston26> anyone know?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, brasero will rip it, k3b is also a nice app
[18:19] <minimec> danielboston26:  dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso # for dvd
[18:20] <Pessimist> danielboston26, you can try with dd if=/location/to/dvd of=isofile.iso
[18:20] <danielboston26> i want to make a image of my ubuntu install cd
[18:22] <^Mike> If I use usb-creator to create a bootable image on a new hard drive, can I boot that, run the installer, and have it install onto the same disk where it is running from?
[18:22] <erfu> Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes for ~30 seconds sometimes. It looks random to me. Has anyone else experienced this?
[18:22] <erfu> (no mouse movement or keyboard response. afterwards it's fine)
[18:22] <Claximillions> Is there a way to get a constantly updating ps ux? Like windows task manager, for example?
[18:23] <^Mike> Claximillions: Yes, try top, or htop
[18:23] <zykotick9> ^Mike: you can't install to the same media the installer is running from - that would be impossible...
[18:23] <bekks> Claximillions: watch -n 1 ps ux
[18:23] <erfu> Claximillions, is top doing what tou want maybe=
[18:23] <^Mike> Claximillions: the poor man's version is watch ps ... :)
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> ^Mike, you can use grub if you have a install using it to boot the ISO
[18:23] <Claximillions> Yeah, for the most part, erfu
[18:23] <^Mike> zykotick9: That's nonsense, if you can load everything you need into RAM then you no longer need the disk.
[18:24] <zykotick9> ^Mike: whatever...
[18:24] <^Mike> Well don't say "impossible" if it isn't impossible 9_9
[18:24] <zykotick9> ^Mike: fyi, ubuntu can't possibly run from RAM...
[18:24] <TrollingForSoup> Can't it?
[18:25] <Edler> hey guys is it possible to install ubuntu on a mac ?
[18:25] <TrollingForSoup> Isn't that how LiveCDs work?
[18:25] <^Mike> Can't it though?
[18:25] <TrollingForSoup> Yes, Edler.
[18:25] <zykotick9> TrollingForSoup: no...
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> ^Mike, realy your best tool is a cd or usb sitting around anyway, so your methodology is not really the best setup.
[18:25] <TrollingForSoup> I've used LiveCDs without a hard drive in.
[18:25] <L3top> It is running from the medium.
[18:25] <zykotick9> TrollingForSoup: BUT you can't run a LiveCD without the CD...
[18:25] <TrollingForSoup> Yes, but it's stored in RAM.
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> TrollingForSoup, no do tell. ;)
[18:25] <zykotick9> TrollingForSoup: no it isn't...
[18:25] <TrollingForSoup> Are you sure?
[18:26] <^Mike> How much does a CD hold? <1GB? And how much RAM do modern systems have? 4GB?
[18:26] <ruffyD> hey guys, I have weird issues in 11.10 shell. when i type, sometimes characters are double or are rendered wrong. e.g. when i type a character and space bar, the same character appears instead of space bar, when sending the command, or the window refreshes everything is normal
[18:26] <TrollingForSoup> So I could run Ubuntu 12.04 Live with 1MB of RAM?
[18:26] <^Mike> I'm pretty sure it /could/ be done
[18:26] <ruffyD> please help me I can't code like that
[18:26] <TrollingForSoup> So, it does everything off of the disk?
[18:26] <ChapStick> live cd's do so load into ram
[18:26] <TrollingForSoup> I google, and as far as I can tell, LiveCDs work by being loaded into memory...
[18:27] <Edler> so i can install 12.04lts server on a mac mini ?
[18:27] <TrollingForSoup> "A live CD, live DVD, or live disc is a complete bootable computer operating system which runs in the computer's memory, rather than loading from the hard disk drive. "
[18:27] <^Mike> Edler: probably, but do you want to?
[18:27] <Edler> well i want to run a 12.04lts server
[18:27] <TrollingForSoup> Going off of that definition, a LiveCD can be loaded into RAM, and the CD removed.
[18:27] <Edler> and i'm searching for the best hardware (quiet)
[18:27] <TrollingForSoup> Which I believe it can be.
[18:27] <Edler> i prefer mac hardware rather than windows machines
[18:27] <Edler> but i want ot know if its possible before i go buy it
[18:27] <^Mike> Edler: Do you know what processor the mac mini has, and whether it is supported?
[18:28] <Edler> i5 2.3ghz
[18:28] <tetsuo--> Hello, my system stopped automounting my external usb disk and i don't know how to mount it by hand
[18:28] <TrollingForSoup> Well, that should work then.
[18:28] <Edler> intel
[18:28] <Edler> alright
[18:28] <Edler> how about wireless drivers
[18:28] <Edler> ?
[18:28] <TrollingForSoup> Well, some drivers are supported.
[18:28] <TrollingForSoup> Some aren't.
[18:28] <^Mike> Edler: I don't know offhand, if it is x86 you should be okay. Especially with a server system, you don't care about graphics and special hardware support, which is where most problems lie.
[18:28] <TrollingForSoup> You'd have to tell me what wireless chip it has, for me tofigure that out.
[18:28] <tetsuo--> Can soemon ehelp me troubleshoot the harddisk so i can get it to mount again?
[18:28] <^Mike> Edler: you don't use wifi for a server O_o
[18:28] <Edler> mike why not ?
[18:28] <TrollingForSoup> You can, if you want. I have a file server I access over Wifi.
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> It's just slower and has issues.
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> Like random disconnections.
[18:29] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: what format is the external?  extX/fat/ntfs?
[18:29] <Edler> well my router is also an apple time capsule
[18:29] <Edler> i've never had any issues
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> Edler: You CAN use wifi for a server, but it's not the best plan.
[18:29] <^Mike> Edler: You just don't. Wifi is unreliable and slow, which is the exact opposite of what you want for a server.
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> Well, for a home server.
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> Wifi is fine.
[18:29] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: I believe a flavor of ext
[18:29] <TrollingForSoup> I've never had any issues.
[18:30] <TrollingForSoup> Plus, not everyone can wire all of their electronics together.
[18:30] <deadmund> I use wifi for home servers as well.  It's not a big deal
[18:30] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: so to mount "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt" swap XY with letter and partition number
[18:30] <Edler> yup
[18:30] <TrollingForSoup> Connecting all the computers in my house would require hundreds of meters of wires...
[18:30] <ruffyD> I have weird issues in 11.10 shell. when i type, sometimes characters are double or are rendered wrong. e.g. when i type a character and space bar, the same character appears instead of space bar, when sending the command, or the window refreshes everything is normal
[18:30] <Edler> so i can go ahead and buy the mac? should work on ubuntu server ?
[18:31] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I don't really recommend Mac Minis.
[18:31] <TrollingForSoup> But if you prefer Mac hardware, I'd google it first.
[18:31] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[18:31] <TrollingForSoup> And see who else has done it.
[18:31] <TrollingForSoup> To make sure nothing important is incompatible.
[18:31] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: wrong XY or parition is corrupt?  most likely the former
[18:31] <Edler> TrollingForSoup what would you recommend ?
[18:31] <TrollingForSoup> For hardware?
[18:31] <Edler> yeah
[18:31] <L3top> one of our users uses a mac mini without issue on 1004 TrollingForSoup
[18:31] <Edler> i want it to be quiet
[18:31] <Edler> reliable
[18:32] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: this is the output for fdisk: /dev/sdf1              63  3907024064  1953512001   83  Linux
[18:32] <Edler> L3top: with ubuntu ?
[18:32] <TrollingForSoup> Yes, Edler.
[18:32] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: and this is what I typed sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt
[18:32] <TrollingForSoup> Well, Mac Minis are quiet and reliable/
[18:32] <TrollingForSoup> Just a bit spendy.
[18:32] <Edler> Awesome
[18:32] <Edler> TrollingForSoup not really much
[18:32] <Edler> 600$ is fair
[18:32] <Edler> non mac counterparts go at 400-500
[18:32] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I could probably build something with similar specs for $500, if I look around.
[18:32] <Edler> and give you a headache
[18:32] <TrollingForSoup> Or less, if I used deals and such.
[18:33] <Edler> yes but with 600$ i can waste no time in building it
[18:33] <TrollingForSoup> But yeah, if you like Apple hardware.
[18:33] <Edler> and have it in the next 15 minutes
[18:33] <TrollingForSoup> Well, a build takes me all of an hour.
[18:33] <TrollingForSoup> If that.
[18:33] <Edler> well my office is entirely apple
[18:33] <Calahan_> Hi, i sorry for noob question, could anyone please post link to good tutorial how can i lock sftp user to certain folder acces only, and prevent it from being able to log into ssh session?
[18:33] <L3top> Edler: I believe it is a bcm4331 wireless adapter... as memory serves
[18:33] <Edler> desktops laptops mobile routers  tv etc...
[18:33] <Edler> L3top would it work out of the box
[18:33] <p_ece> heyy all
[18:33] <Edler> and if not could i find a driver ?
[18:33] <L3top> !bcm43xx | Edler
[18:33] <TrollingForSoup> Well, not a fan of the price tag on Apple devices. But if you have money, just quick search the internet to make sure it's compatible, and go for it.
[18:34] <TrollingForSoup> Ubuntu has run on pretty much anything I've tried it on so far.
[18:34] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: any way to fix the parition if it has been corrupted?
[18:34] <Edler> TrollingForSoup I couldn't find any post/video that confirms to me that it will work without firmware hacks
[18:34] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I'll quick try.
[18:34] <Edler> thanks :D
[18:35] <TrollingForSoup> Hm, yeah, by the looks of it, people have had issues with Ubuntu on Mac Minis...
[18:35] <TrollingForSoup> Going by the FAQ and such.
[18:35] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: from livecd run fsck on the partition (doubt it will help though...)
[18:35] <TrollingForSoup> But I don't know much about HTPCs.
[18:35] <danielboston26> Synthead: are you there?
[18:35] <TrollingForSoup> As I'm more of a full-tower kinda person XD
[18:36] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: does it need to be a livecd? its an external usb drive
[18:36] <TrollingForSoup> I do so love my 10 drive bays.
[18:36] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: ah right - ya from regular OS should be fine then...
[18:37] <L3top> Edler: I am bugging my user right now. He might have answers for you.
[18:38] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: i did fsck -n and it said ext-2 with bad superblock, so ill try it for real now, fingers crossed
[18:39] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdf1 , doesnt change
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> TrollingForSoup, as much as you like sharing your life can we like stay on topic. ;)
[18:40] <TrollingForSoup> Oh, shoot, sorry, thought this was #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:40] <TrollingForSoup> My bad.
[18:42] <Calahan_> Please any tip? Thanks in advance!
[18:42] <tetsuo--> zykotick9: any other options?
[18:42] <[snake]> I'm using gnome 3 in 12.04. does anyone know where the trash bin is located?
[18:42] <marvindoppelt> Is there a tool one can use to hide location e.g of a country to another?  I know one for windows but looking one for linux esp. for Ubuntu
[18:43] <[snake]> marvindoppelt, maybe don't enable gps or whatever and don't tell anyone your address yourself.
[18:44] <[snake]> Oh wait your isp may give away your country.
[18:44] <ms_daisy> marvindoppelt, use Tor.
[18:44] <[snake]> ms_daisy, I'm not sure if that is what he's asking for.
[18:45] <zykotick9> tetsuo--: sorry, i don't have any other suggestions.  good luck.
[18:45] <[snake]> I believe the trash bin is supposed to be in the favorites bar, but it is no longer there.
[18:45] <marvindoppelt> [snake], have already tried the beast but didn't work.
[18:46] <ms_daisy> one way to find out: marvindoppelt , who do you want to hide your location from? and what applications are you using?
[18:47] <danielboston26> anyone here can tell me how to make a image of my ubuntu install disk
[18:48] <deadmund> danielboston26: the ubuntu install disc is an image of itself?  (duh?)
[18:48] <W4sp> danielboston26: Could you expand on 'install disk'.
[18:48] <marvindoppelt> ms_daisy, I know what am talking about and have done it in windows but am looking for a solution in linux.  [snake] atleast has an idea of what am talking about.
[18:48] <ms_daisy> good luck then marvindoppelt
[18:49] <danielboston26> W4sp i burned the ubuntu image to a disk now i want to make a image of the iso so i can mount it to the desktop to change a file
[18:49] <danielboston26> of the disk rather not iso
[18:49] <deadmund> danielboston26: http://boogr.hubpages.com/hub/Is-Pepper-the-new-Sublime
[18:50] <deadmund> danielboston26: first post there shows how to make an ISO from a CD
[18:50] <[snake]> marvindoppelt, as ms_daisy said tor is a good browser for browsing anonymously. it can also be configured for other applications.
[18:50] <W4sp> danielboston26: If you 'burned' it to a CD you have your installation CD.
[18:50] <deadmund> W4sp: He wants to change it
[18:50] <danielboston26> W4sp yes i understand that
[18:51] <danielboston26> WS4P i want to make a change to one of the files
[18:52] <W4sp> danielboston26: You can create your own CD images. Also, there are ways to OEM the iso images. Not sure what you want to achieve here?
[18:52] <deadmund> Nobody listens to /me
[18:52] <jaaaaa> hello
[18:52] <danielboston26> W4sp i am trying to change the boot.cfg file
[18:52] <sianhulo> hello, guys, i don't know if this goes here, but i'm trying to get to work a ps3 controller via usb in ubuntu and haven't been able to
[18:53] <deadmund> danielboston26: make the iso from the CD with the link I described then go in and change it! :P
[18:53] <jaaaaa> i have a problem updating precise server. basically resolvconf and udev can't install
[18:53] <brontosaurusrex> trying to generate test.desktop file manually, it works until i add %F to the line Exec=$HOME/droplets/test , clues?
[18:53] <danielboston26> deadmund i already have the cd
[18:53] <zykotick9> jaaaaa: "ls /dev/input/js*" does js0 show up when you plug it in?
[18:53] <danielboston26> deadmund once the image is burned to the disk you can't change it anymore
[18:54] <sianhulo> i have QTsixA and it recognize my controller, but that's just it, i can neither turn it on nor make it interact with anything
[18:54] <brontosaurusrex> what i have so far http://pastebin.com/6MtVP36h
[18:54] <deadmund> danielboston26: You need to copy the ISO from the CD onto your hdd because you cannot edit a burned CD
[18:54] <deadmund> danielboston26: yeah
[18:54] <danielboston26> deadmund correct
[18:54] <deadmund> danielboston26: so, what's your question?
[18:54] <danielboston26> so how do i do that deadmund?
[18:54] <jaaaaa> zykotick9: when i plug in what?
[18:54] <danielboston26> deadmund i need a way to edit the image then reburn it
[18:55] <zykotick9> jaaaaa: sorry!  was aimed at sianhulo
[18:55] <deadmund> danielboston26: So you have the ISO copied from the CD and now on your HDD?
[18:55] <zykotick9> sianhulo: see my message to jaaaaa above
[18:55] <jaaaaa> by the way, this is basicall ywhat happens http://cl.ly/text/0K2o3f06172Z
[18:55] <deadmund> danielboston26: Little program called ISO master: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46646/how-to-edit-iso-images-including-bootable-isos
[18:55] <danielboston26> deadmund how do i do that?
[18:55] <savio> hello
[18:55] <deadmund> danielboston26: I'm getting confused.  Can you be more specific?
[18:55] <W4sp> danielboston26: You can change startup options by pressing the SHIFT key during startup. That is obviously a one-off. OTOH you only install it once unless you require a roll-out of many PCs.
[18:55] <sianhulo> zykotick9, it says that it cant acces it
[18:56] <sianhulo> zykotick9, because there's no file or directory
[18:56] <danielboston26> W4sp the issue is im unable to boot
[18:56] <danielboston26> W4sp there is a patch but i need to add it manually
[18:56] <W4sp> danielboston26: Please see deadmund 's link. Admittingly it is an unusual way to get Ubuntu on your system
[18:56] <zykotick9> sianhulo: assuming the joystick is plugged in, guess the kernel isn't seeing it...
[18:56] <deadmund> danielboston26: here is how to make an ISO from a CD in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD
[18:56] <danielboston26> deadmund so iso master will let me edit the iso?
[18:57] <deadmund> danielboston26: yeah, ISO master edits ISO's  Maybe read the links I'm sending you.
[18:57] <danielboston26> deadmund :-P
[18:57] <W4sp> danielboston26: I see, that sounds reasonable. Though, do you know why it does not boot and what patch you require to apply?
[18:57] <sianhulo> zykotick9, that's odd, because it's shown by qtsixa
[18:58] <deadmund> danielboston26: Asking on IRC channels should be your last resort before first trying yourself, 2nd googling, and 3rd reading what you find after you google.  And if someone gives you a link you should read what your given
[18:58] <danielboston26> W4sp there some sort of interrupt issue its been identified and will be avaliable soon but they haven't added the code to the distro yet
[18:58] <Vayne>  Hio. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. I would like to build Wireshark from source, but apt-get build-dep wireshark fails with the following message: http://pastebin.ca/2179296
[18:58] <Vayne> Anyone know where the guy in charge of the Ubuntu package is?
[18:58] <Vayne> (I'm on x86_64, btw)
[18:58] <Vayne> (And yes, I'm asking in #wireshark, too.)
[18:58] <danielboston26> Vayne: in his lair
[18:59] <Vayne> danielboston26: noooooooooooo
[18:59] <Vayne> danielboston26: Do I have to get to the choppah to reach him?
[18:59] <danielboston26> lol
[18:59] <arcadegeek> i realy want to like and suport linux ubuntu and stuff
[18:59] <arcadegeek> but the dam thing wont instal
[18:59] <danielboston26> sounds like your missing 2 dependances
[19:00] <danielboston26> can you repeat your question arcadegeek
[19:00] <sianhulo> zykotick9, http://i.imgur.com/QyG8H.png there's a screenshot
[19:00] <danielboston26> Vayne you need to install libpango1.0 and libcairo2
[19:00] <Vayne> danielboston26: Yes, about those deps: http://pastebin.ca/2179297
[19:01] <danielboston26> hmmm
[19:01] <zykotick9> sianhulo: ? sorry - i have nothin'.  good luck.
[19:01] <danielboston26> sounds like the builds got messed up
[19:01] <Vayne> danielboston26: and http://pastebin.ca/2179298
[19:01] <sianhulo> zykotick9, thanks anyway
[19:01] <Vayne> danielboston26: Yeah, I figured... anything I can do, other than install Gentoo in a VM? ;)
[19:01] <danielboston26> is there evquvalent of make clean for apt-get?
[19:01] <arcadegeek> question is how can u fuck up an instalation file, burn up 10 dvd"s, and still not have any ubuntu on a unix or dos based machine
[19:02] <Vayne> danielboston26: rm -rf /
[19:02] <Vayne> ?
[19:02] <W4sp> danielboston26: OK, I see. You can follow deadmund 's advice. Also, there are GRUB options (see GRUB version 2) that you can temporarily use. IF you are able to over the initial setup you can edit your grub.conf as a form of post-installation. That's probably the way most would do.
[19:02] <deadmund> danielboston26: don't run that
[19:02] <deadmund> Vayne: what's wrong with you?
[19:02] <danielboston26> i know deadmund
[19:02] <juniour> dont try rm -rf /
[19:02] <deadmund> danielboston26: good :)
[19:02] <W4sp> Vayne: Do not post commands like that in this channel.
[19:02] <Vayne> deadmund: I thought he was talking to me.
[19:02] <danielboston26> deadmund im trying to help vayne
[19:03] <Vayne> deadmund: He already demonstrated clue by interpreting my apt-get spew. :p
[19:03] <danielboston26> is there some way to make clean apt-get it sounds like his bulid of these two packages got messed up
[19:03] <Vayne> deadmund: and asking if there was a make clean for apt-get
[19:03] <Vayne> danielboston26: It kinda looks liek there's a strange dep issue.
[19:04] <danielboston26> it says you have broken packages
[19:04] <Vayne> danielboston26: I've tried to install earlier versions of those packages... but can't work out the syntax. :/
[19:04] <lilred> Hey guys, anyone can help me out with vmbuilder execscripts?
[19:04] <arcadegeek> why do i have to be some pc engineer to just instal a consumer os
[19:04] <danielboston26> might try sudo apt-get upgrade vayne
[19:04] <lilred> I have no idea where else to look for help, even google is failing me
[19:04] <Vayne> danielboston26: 0 packages to be installed
[19:04] <[snake]> so no trash can in gnome 3?
[19:04] <danielboston26> i know theres a way to update you package list but im not remembering the snytax
[19:05] <Vayne> danielboston26: okay, I'll poke around with teh googlz and see
[19:05] <danielboston26> you may want to try googleing that
[19:05] <[snake]> i can find it in nautilus
[19:05] <Vayne> danielboston26: no nee dto waste your time on that
[19:05] <Vayne> danielboston26: thanks!
[19:05] <[snake]> nvm that's good.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a      Thanks
[19:05] <danielboston26> why?
[19:06] <august_> help
[19:06] <Vayne> danielboston26: oh, here's something interesting. wireshark-dev
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: so we can see what happens with the command so we can advise
[19:06] <danielboston26> whats up august?
[19:06] <danielboston26> actionparsnip i was advising vayne im not the one with the issue
[19:06] <Guest75917> forgot my slash lol
[19:06] <Calahan_> histo, please could you help on tutorial how to lock sftp user to certain directory and disable ssh for him? Thanks in advance.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: ahh sorry
[19:07] <arcadegeek> i hate this stupid istall failure, stupid os, why do i need this crap
[19:07] <Calahan_> with histo i mean hi
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: who is forcing you to use the OS?
[19:08] <arcadegeek> i need to change
[19:08] <ms_daisy> why arcadegeek ?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why are you telling us this?
[19:08] <Vayne> danielboston26: nope. Wireshark-dev was a bust. Anyway, thanks all! See ya!
[19:08] <bekks> degrees of hate :)
[19:09] <arcadegeek> ur software is a pain to install, if tryed moth to intal the os, u think i want to take a month instaling an breaking harddrives dvd"s and shit
[19:10] <Calahan_> meh :(
[19:10] <ms_daisy> We are all richer because you shared your opinion arcadegeek .
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: do you have an actual support question?
[19:11] <arcadegeek> why dous ur suport suck, iv gone true all the dam wiki
[19:11] <lilred> can someone ban this guy
[19:11] <ms_daisy> because you suck at asking questions arcadegeek
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: support works fine, there are multiple support channels to expore
[19:11] <l3d> what is the quickest and easiest way to share files between ubuntu 10.10 and 12.04
[19:11] <lilred> refrain from swearing guys, this is a family channel
[19:11] <bekks> l3d: ssh/scp
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> l3d: Maverick is dead so I wouldn't bother using it
[19:12] <lilred> l3d, dropbox is good, otherwise scp
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> l3d: you can install samba and share folders using nautilus using right click
[19:12] <bekks> l3d: dropbox for sharing files locally, between two computers, is somehow pointless.
[19:12] <lilred> dropbox is simple and works, that's the only thing that matters
[19:12] <l3d> well i woudl update but 12.04 on my desltop is well broke
[19:12] <lilred> samba is good too
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> samba is quick and dirty
[19:13] <bekks> lilred: erm, not agreed. It involves loading up files to the internet, and downloading them again. And having the risk of sharing data which shouldnt be shared.
[19:13] <bekks> Just use scp.
[19:13] <arcadegeek> suport isnt fine, iv tryed all the stuff dualboting and all, wubi.exe, dvd"s, iso checksum, mac windows
[19:13] <l3d> esamba i tried but on the 10.10 all i get is unable to mount
[19:13] <W4sp> Out of all methods to copy files between two systems Samba is the worst.
[19:14] <lilred> l3d, do you have experience with dropbox
[19:14] <l3d> no
[19:14] <lilred> okay, do you have an USB key?
[19:14] <primefalcon> Greetings, need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/
[19:14] <IdleOne> arcadegeek, what is more likely, that all the methods you tried don't work or something you did doesn't work?
[19:14] <l3d> was goping to avoid that
[19:14] <bekks> !sshfs
[19:14] <lilred> okay then
[19:14] <lilred> sshfs might be for you :)
[19:14] <ms_daisy> if you want to share files between 2 ubuntu machines I would not use samba l3d . Samba is for sharing linux with windows.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: when you installed Windows, did you leave unpartitioned space to install Ubuntu to?
[19:14] <bekks> Just use sshfs as described in the link above, l3d
[19:15] <lilred> jesus so many ways to do that
[19:15] <lilred> XD
[19:15] <l3d> looking it up now thanks
[19:15] <danielboston26> primefalcon: sed is dead :p
[19:15] <Calahan_> Guys i see that you all are very bussy with somth, mabe sombady have time to help with my lack of knowledge, problem. I want to make user who can sftp only to certain folder and prevent him from being abble to use ssh. Thanks in advance if you can help with this.
[19:15] <lilred> I only heard about sshfs today, it's pretty damn cool
[19:15] <arcadegeek> i buyght a dedicadet 3tb harddrive for the bloody os
[19:15] <lilred> danielboston26, can it, sed is extremely useful for systems administrators
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ms_daisy: ubuntu has smbclient which will allow it to access samba shares on ANY OS, it's not only for WIndows...
[19:15] <arcadegeek> even tryed a ssd
[19:16] <ms_daisy> True. But there are better ways to share linux to linux IMO ActionParsnip
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: so you installed Ubuntu to one drive, then installed Ubuntu to another, then what happens?
[19:16] <arcadegeek> it never instaled
[19:16] <arcadegeek> it crashes on instal
[19:16] <danielboston26> lilred: thats a pun
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ms_daisy: it works and incorporates with nautilus well.
[19:17] <arcadegeek> it crashes on boot
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: can you expand in 'crash' it is too ambiguous
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: do you get a blank screen when you boot the CD?
[19:18] <danielboston26> arcadegeek do you happen to be using a macbook to install ubuntu?
[19:18] <arcadegeek> wubi.exe errors, iso secksums that went wrong, freezing screens on leoding bar, mouse lag, total freeze and the fan cept spining harder
[19:18] <danielboston26> also are you getting a kernel panic arcadegeek
[19:19] <arcadegeek> imac and an intel
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: if the MD5 checksum fails then the data you have is damaged
[19:19] <arcadegeek> kernal what?
[19:19] <danielboston26> arcadegeek:  intel what?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: did you try torrents to download the ISO?
[19:19] <arcadegeek> intel nvidea desktop runing win7
[19:19] <danielboston26> arcadegeek: if you don't know what a kernel panic is you should not be trying to install linux
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: oh, a dual GPU system (nvidia and intel)?
[19:20] <arcadegeek> im a bloody consumer
[19:20] <bekks> danielboston26: Thats nonsense.
[19:20] <danielboston26> bekks no its not linux is a geek OS
[19:20] <bekks> danielboston26: Thats even more nonsense, and it's offtopic.
[19:20] <danielboston26> bekks if your not a geek then you won't understand
[19:20] <primefalcon> doing another call out for sed issue--- need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/
[19:21] <arcadegeek> i don know what to do
[19:21] <danielboston26> bekks would you advise your grandmother to try and install linux?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: again, a dual GPU system (nvidia and intel)?
[19:21] <bekks> danielboston26: I am not going to keep the offtopic in here with you. :)
[19:21] <arcadegeek> is it the chips? since i have everything intel nvidea
[19:21] <lilred> primefalcon, I wish I could help you :(
[19:21] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: he means he has a windows pc when he said intel
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: I bet the average user couldn't fully install Windows without the driver CDs
[19:22] <primefalcon> me too lilred
[19:22] <lilred> primefalcon, have you looked to see what lineToDelete looks like at that point in the script?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: going to manufacturers sites, downloading drivers. I bet most would take it to a shop and have them do it
[19:22] <danielboston26> all im saying is linux is a geek OS regular people should stuck with windows and os x
[19:22] <arcadegeek> do i have to buy some amd ati thing to run it?
[19:22] <primefalcon> lilred, yeah thats the reason I have the view function printing out line numbers
[19:22] <IdleOne> danielboston26, That is just nonsense and also this discussion is off topic, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: its not, its only hard because you are so hard coded into windows that you can't use anything else without callingit hard. Intelligent people can adapt easily as the mindsets are identcal and can fix issues
[19:23] <danielboston26> arcadegeek: i would advise to forget linux why are you trying to install it anyway?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: no, you just need the boot option: nomodeset
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its common for Intel GPUs
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: have you tried that?
[19:23] <arcadegeek> cpu
[19:23] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: i use both windows mac and linux
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: no GPU, GRAPHICAL processing unit
[19:23] <lilred> I need help with vmbuilder, google returns nothing
[19:23] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: im talking to you on a macbook pro right now
[19:23] <lilred> anyone used vmbuilder, specifically the --exec flag?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: how long have you used both?
[19:24] <arcadegeek> intel i7 overclock cpu nvidea gtx 580
[19:24] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: the first modern os i used was mac os
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: ok so it's a dual GPU system, they are a real pain outside of windows
[19:24] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: before that dos
[19:24] <primefalcon> daniel your kind astarting to sound like a troll about telling him not to use linux, in a linux forum
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: doesn't answer my question...
[19:24] <arcadegeek> wait what? its standard game hardware
[19:24] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: all im trying to say is its easier for non geeky users to stick with things that are simple
[19:25] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip, it doesn't matter and is off topic
[19:25] <danielboston26> arcadegeek: why are you trying to install linux?
[19:25] <arcadegeek> we all have to
[19:25] <danielboston26> arcadegeek: who says you "have" to?
[19:25] <arcadegeek> i mean win8, mointan lion
[19:25] <primefalcon> danielboston26, because he wants to use linux obviously
[19:25] <arcadegeek> desktops doomed
[19:26] <primefalcon> thank IdleOne
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its poor support from nvidia
[19:26] <arcadegeek> great , so i pay more for les...
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its nothing to do with 'standard game' anything. Its absolutely zero to do with that
[19:26] <JavaKid> hey all i just have a quick question if you don't mind
[19:26] <MrBushido> had a lapse of memory. is "useradd -system" the command for making user accounts for service daemons or for creating priviledged users?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: your CPU has an inbuilt GPU and your nvidia also has one, that setup doesn't work well with Linux
[19:27] <arcadegeek> nvidea is game standard spec, it holds our longer, i mean the have the cool drivers
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: a quick search would show you the pitfall of buying that sort of config
[19:27] <JavaKid> is LibreOffice the best office suite (and writing app) for Ubuntu?
[19:27] <JavaKid> for a student
[19:27] <bekks> !best | JavaKid
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: yes but having 2 graphic processors like that causes issues
[19:27] <arcadegeek> oke give me the linux specs
[19:27] <primefalcon> Last call for right now--- need help with a shell script I am writing to manage passwords, the problem I am having is with sed, atm it appears to be deleting everything, everything else is working 100%script is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1141676/
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: there is no best
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: libreoffice  is decent and is in a default install
[19:28] <JavaKid> In general
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: specs of what?
[19:28] <JavaKid> For writing essays and such
[19:28] <bekks> JavaKid: in general, there is no "best".
[19:28] <JavaKid> ?
[19:28] <arcadegeek> linux pc hardware
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: yes, libreoffice, its not the best but it;s not the worst
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: for what?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: try a full question
[19:28] <arcadegeek> mu imac macbook air and windows machine arent runing it
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: similarly there is no best software for writing essays in Windows
[19:29] <JavaKid> well would you recommend libreoffice to a student more-so than any other app?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: again, try a full question and I can reply
[19:29] <arcadegeek> i dont have the right hardware u say
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: sure its a fully functional office productivity suite'
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: yes, if you can disable one and just use the other you will be fine
[19:30] <arcadegeek> then what is the right setup of stuff, amd intel, nvidea ati, some sort of motherbeord
[19:30] <arcadegeek> i cant turn of my nvidea card
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/nvidia-there-is-no-optimus-support-for.html
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: then disable the Intel GPU if you can
[19:31] <arcadegeek> yea thats going to work fine, pc witout cpu
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: GPU, ot CPU
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: try reading wat I write, rather that what you think I write
[19:32] <arcadegeek> i dont have an intel gpu
[19:32] <JavaKid> ActionParsnip: LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice. In your opinion, which is "better"?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you do, its built into the CPU
[19:32] <lilred> LO
[19:32] <lilred> all the way
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: I suggest you look at the actual difference and see which suits your needs better
[19:32] <arcadegeek> yea oke i cant fisicaly remove the gpu from my motherbeord rigt
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: I can't tell you which is better
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: no you can disable it with the BIOS maybe
[19:33] <W4sp> primefalcon: Does $lineToDelete show enything if you echo it?
[19:33] <arcadegeek> bios , iv done that
[19:34] <JavaKid> Okay well I did some quick research and apparently OpenOffice is pretty much "dead" and not updated as much, whereas LibreOffice is "alive" with frequent updates.
[19:34] <arcadegeek> everything is on nvidea part exept windows, since it needs it or somthing
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/oracle-openofficeorg-vs-tdf-libreoffice
[19:34] <primefalcon> w4sp give me min I'll check damn I just ssume it'd have the number
[19:34] <JavaKid> Thanks for the link I will check it out
[19:34] <Belial`> ActionParsnip, there's still hope for official optimus. but i know this doesn't mean much. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyOTQ
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you have been bitten by nvidia's support, not Ubuntu's fault
[19:35] <primefalcon> W4sp, yes it echos the correct line
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Belial`: I'm still avoiding it. I think its a nasty hack
[19:35] <arcadegeek> so what do i do
[19:36] <primefalcon> W4sp, for example if I enter 100 it'll echo 100 if I tell to echo it
[19:36] <Belial`> ActionParsnip, i hear ya. i'm remaining optimistic that nvidia will start jumping in though and making something proper.
[19:36] <arcadegeek> new machine
[19:36] <JavaKid> Thanks everyone for your help I will be getting off now.
[19:36] <JavaKid> ActionParsnip: Thanks mate
[19:36] <W4sp> primefalcon: I'm not sure if d is the right thing to to. I would question if if get's the right line number.
[19:36] <W4sp> primefalcon: OK, I got the one with 100.
[19:37] <l3d> sshfs is the better choice so far so good
[19:37] <l3d> thank you for all your help
[19:38] <arcadegeek> oke so why i want a linux, i want a fine gaming computer and built it into an arcade rig for some costum game, i cant use windows since wel u know microsoft, and i cant mod a mac(also who plays games on a mac)
[19:38] <W4sp> primefalcon: By any chance, if you have any given text file would it delete the line number as given?
[19:38] <ikonia> arcadegeek: you want aracde emmulation, no problem, you want a gaming machine, linux is the wrong OS
[19:38] <Saiki> how do you fix broken packages?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: could take out the nvidia and just use the onboard intel
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you may find you get an actual display with the boot option:  nomodeset
[19:39] <arcadegeek> no i dont have output
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you can set boot options before ANY of the OS boots, so the fact you don't get a display is irrelevant
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you WILL get a disaplay in Grub as it shows in TEXT which any video config can show
[19:40] <W4sp> Saiki: You would probably wish to run apt-get clean and apt-get update.
[19:40] <arcadegeek> what???
[19:40] <arcadegeek> i have no screenoutput
[19:40] <arcadegeek> on my desktop
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | arcadegeek
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: You can, just because you don't know how to do something doesn;t mean it's not possible
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: have you tried that boot option?
[19:41] <arcadegeek> again ur taking away a gamers screen, thats crazzy
[19:42] <IdleOne> arcadegeek, do you actually want help or not?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: thats all Ican really advise, nvidia bit you
[19:42] <Saiki> W4sp: I still have broken packages
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: did you try the nomodeset boot option at all?
[19:42] <arcadegeek> dude tellme how can i do that on an imac
[19:42] <IdleOne> arcadegeek, click on the link ubottu gave you, read.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: read the link ubottu gave, its all there. I don't have to tell you ANYTHING
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: thats why the link exists
[19:43] <lilred> Using vmbuilder in an SSH tunnel, I often get a broken pipe. Anyone knows why?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: the fact it is a mac is irrelevant, its got the optimus hardware which causes an issue
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | arcadegeek
[19:44] <arcadegeek> i dont understand
[19:44] <Saiki> W4sp: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[19:44] <arcadegeek> yes f key
[19:44] <arcadegeek> thats all i know
[19:44] <bekks> Saiki: Provide the complete output in a pastebin please.
[19:44] <lilred> Using vmbuilder in an SSH tunnel, I often get a broken pipe. Anyone knows why?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you bought a mac (first mistake), it has 2 GPUs (one is Intel and the other is Nvidia (note correct spelling)
[19:44] <W4sp> Saiki: IF you know what packages you unsuccessfully installed you can force a reinstallation. IF in doubt you can check /var/log/dpkg.log.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: the 2 different GPUs causes an issue in Linux
[19:45] <W4sp> s/IF/If
[19:45] <Saiki> bekks: I can't, server  version
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a             please use a pastebin to host the text
[19:45] <arcadegeek> first ist a mistake, its the best thing there is for graphics artists
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: not these day
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> *days
[19:45] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I can't pastebin from a server version, can I?
[19:45] <bekks> which is nonsense, too :)
[19:46] <bekks> Saiki: Sure you can.
[19:46] <primefalcon> W4sp, you need to be onto something there I plain texted a password file and its not working there eithr
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: sure you can pipe to the pastebinit app
[19:46] <arcadegeek> i have done that comand line thinging
[19:46] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: um.. how?
[19:46] <primefalcon> seem to be onto something
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: the whole 'graphic artists' mac thing is severly outdated and the apps run equally well under windows
[19:47] <arcadegeek> this is the farest iv goten on mac http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[19:47] <arcadegeek> the ps dont exist on windows
[19:47] <MoTec> i'm just here for the lols.. thanks for not disappointing.
[19:47] <arcadegeek> aps*
[19:47] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: 12.04 LTS/ precise
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: press SPACE when that screen shows. If you look at that its (human) manipulation use (keyboard)
[19:48] <W4sp> primefalcon: Well, I ran the command as in line 42. I created a file with six lines. Each line has 0 to 5 counting up. It does not delete anything. Hence my question.
[19:48] <arcadegeek> did that
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:48] <primefalcon> W4sp, seems my ?usage of sed is wrong then?
[19:48] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip it crashed
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: then use the boot options factoid link to add the boot optio
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: did you MD6 test the ISO you used?
[19:49] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: waiting for my ssh to finish posting
[19:49] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[19:49] <sagredo> how do i scale all open windows
[19:49] <arcadegeek> shecksum all dvds
[19:49] <sagredo> to show them all so i can click
[19:49] <arcadegeek> only 2 where corupt
[19:49] <W4sp> primefalcon: That's what I thought. Also, I'm not convinced it is supposed to delete a specific li number. I might be wrong though. That's why I did the tiny test with a demo file.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: ok, did you burn the DVD ISO to the DVD as slowly as possible?
[19:50] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/hjPsGJ4p
[19:50] <sagredo> what is the keyboard shortcut for showing all open windows
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: compiz has the scale plugin
[19:50] <arcadegeek> i did the reral one which dint work and the fast one that worked
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: that will need sudo
[19:50] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: i just did it by accident
[19:50] <primefalcon> W4sp, even just putting sed -n "$2"'d' $location/Passwords.txt into the script doesn't seem to be working and that looks like basic sed syntax
[19:50] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: there certainly is a way
[19:50] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I'm in root
[19:50] <arcadegeek> work i mean chechsum...
[19:51] <OerHeks> sagredo, win + S
[19:51] <sagredo> OerHeks: thanks
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: /var/log$ apt-get update             the dollar sign means you are a user, if you were root it would say:    /var/log# apt-get update
[19:51] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I logged in using ssh TO root
[19:51] <OerHeks> sagredo quik help hold win key
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: use the boot options factoid link to add the boot option nomodeset
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why not just use macOS, it's what the hardware is made for and you will have fewer issues
[19:52] <arcadegeek> u know what just forget it, since u tell me to do it witout screen, and it wont run as game platform anyways
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its not without screen, i never said that
[19:53] <arcadegeek> plug out the nvidea card...
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: can you ping web pages from the system?
[19:53] <arcadegeek> vga output...
[19:53] <primefalcon> W4sp, sed -n 100d Passwords.txt; cat -n Passwords.txt even just pure from cli isn't working so I guess I am missing something about sed....
[19:53] <bekks> arcadegeek: No one said that.
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: the CPU has a video chip built in
[19:54] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: net works fine
[19:54] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/08/11/1208111008081287.jpg
[19:54] <W4sp> primefalcon: I know, I try to find out how to do it.
[19:54] <arcadegeek> i dont have the output vga dvi hdmi on the motherbeord
[19:54] <aleprovencio>  hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, and also without having to switch layouts everytime I open it. Is that possible?
[19:55] <arcadegeek> aleprovencio get a raizer or logitch gamekeybeord
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: if you are using putty, you can copy and paste all the text in the page and use a pastebin to host
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: that is nothing to do with aleprovencio's issue
[19:56] <sianhulo> i'm trying to use my ps3 controller in ubuntu via usb using this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis/
[19:56] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I did, that's the pastebin log I gaveyou. Im usinfg WinSCP though, not putty (also has a GUI)
[19:56] <arcadegeek> wel it has onbeord memory and saves the layout, and u can config macro's
[19:56] <W4sp> primefalcon: I'm still not convinced that the li number expression will work.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> aleprovencio: you could have a batch script to set the language then launch the browser, then when it closes run a final command to set the keysetback
[19:57] <primefalcon> sed '100d' Passwords.txt isn't doing it either... I am starting to hate sed....
[19:57] <sianhulo> in "usb pairing" i get a diferent response than in the tutorial. i get this instead http://pastebin.com/YrLS35dd what can i do?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: maybe in Windows, but this is in Ubuntu so the software with those devices doesn't apply here
[19:58] <aleprovencio> ActionParsnip, ok will try your suggestion thanks
[19:58] <W4sp> primefalcon: There's a saying that if you have one small problem that you want to solve with regex you end up having two probs, a small one and a big one.
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: yes but it;snot very useful. Can you give the pastebin (or image) of the output of;  sudo apt-get update
[19:58] <arcadegeek> cmon realy? mac and windows suports raizer keybeords
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: go ask raizer if they want to support Linux'
[19:58] <bekks> arcadegeek: And a raizer keyboard has absolutely nothing to do with his issue.
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: youo'll probably find they act as standard mice in Linux
[19:59] <Like> Oo la libertad ohh!!!
[19:59] <arcadegeek> oke so u tell me none of my hardware works not of my expensive top of the line stuff, and my stuff is to blame
[19:59] <bekks> No one said that.
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its the support by nvidia, I'm sure none of youor systems are top of the line
[19:59] <arcadegeek> nvidea dous suprt linux, raizer dousnt suport linux
[20:00] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: same output
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: not optimus though, they have great support for single GPUs
[20:00] <Like> Linux..
[20:00] <savio> edgars,
[20:00] <sianhulo> have someone managed to use a ps3 controller via usb?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: I want the package issue that is slightly obscred in the screenshot you gave
[20:00] <primefalcon> W4sp, yeah I had this kinda issue a long time ago with sed with a website that was hacked, and needing to remove the offending code..... shoul saved that so I could see what was in there
[20:00] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ah.. sec
[20:01] <arcadegeek> maybe u sude think more like how the hole linux thing started, u know haking it re witing it from inside out
[20:01] <Like> Thx from here
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why is that anything in this situation?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you think Microsoft ust popped up in a day and had thouosands of coders? Are you that ignorant?
[20:02] <arcadegeek> nothing is working, expensive mac, expensive desktop, u dont care
[20:02] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/2nuwA3xf
[20:02] <W4sp> primefalcon: d seems to be a zero address command. We need to find a way ohw to use address <number>
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: i've giben you why you are having the issue, it's nvidia that doesn't care. Go cry them a river
[20:02] <W4sp> primefalcon: You're using version 4.2.1 right?
[20:02] <bekks> arcadegeek: Things are not working the way you want them to work, and you just ignored well known pitfalls when bying your hardware.
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: what are you trying to install?
[20:03] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: java
[20:03] <primefalcon> W4sp, got it working basically with sed -i '100d' Passwords.txt so now I guess I can start building back up
[20:03] <arcadegeek> there were no pitfals in my system
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: do you mean for web browsers?
[20:03] <bekks> There are. You've been told about that Optimus pitfall.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: there is and always will be, no OS is bugless
[20:03] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: no, for tomcat
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: it's also down to support, Companies make more money supporting WIndows and as they are businesses will aim for that, obviously
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: ^
[20:04] <arcadegeek> iv always been on the mac, so wen i had to change to windows last year i want with trusted stuff intel nvidea
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: wrong target, sorry dude
[20:04] <W4sp> primefalcon: I'm working with -e, then linenumber<d>
[20:04] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: no worries
[20:04] <W4sp> primefalcon: I guess you'll get on with it now.
[20:05] <primefalcon> thx for the help W4sp
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: I have a number of systems with zero issues all work 100% out of the box, no need for driver CDs for anything. My hardware is super linux supported so I buy it
[20:05] <arcadegeek> tell me
[20:05] <arcadegeek> ur specs
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: it's Nvidia too, nvidea doesn't xist
[20:05] <W4sp> primefalcon: If that fails there's awk(ward).
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: Dell Latitude D420  100% OOTB on any linux distro I have tried
[20:06] <arcadegeek> dell?
[20:06] <rodgerr_nc> I have a new terrabyte disk and I want  to duplicate my old 750 gig disk onto my new disk.  How do I do this?
[20:06] <primefalcon> W4sp, that was going to be next try.... awk and sed are commands I havn't used obviously :-(
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: ASUS P1-AH2 Pundit with onboard 6150LE GPU and Atheros wifi, 100% OOTB
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: yes its a dell laptop
[20:06] <primefalcon> anyhow I am off for now W4sp thanks for the help again! :-)
[20:06] <sianhulo> has someone experience connecting ps3 controller via usb?all i ca find is for bluetooth
[20:06] <arcadegeek> pcrosesor
[20:07] <arcadegeek> rapics card
[20:07] <arcadegeek> ram
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: Compaq old thing circa 1998 running Ubuntu server with the same atheros wifi, 100% OOTB
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: Intel CPU, Intel GPU, 3Gb RAM
[20:07] <W4sp> primefalcon: Are you there...?
[20:07] <arcadegeek> what intel
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: I know a PPA for Oracle java
[20:07] <primefalcon> yeah just
[20:07] <arcadegeek> i5
[20:07] <arcadegeek> i7
[20:07] <W4sp> primefalcon: I think I got what you need.
[20:08] <arcadegeek> pentium, xeon
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why is it important, its a CPU, the CPU is irrelevant with blank screens during installation
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why do you need to know
[20:08] <arcadegeek> its important
[20:08] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ?
[20:08] <arcadegeek> very
[20:08] <bekks> arcadegeek: It is totally irrelevant.
[20:08] <primefalcon> W4sp, that would be great
[20:08] <arcadegeek> a xeon can hardly drive 3D
[20:08] <bekks> Thats a lie.
[20:08] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java1.6.0_12/bin  <this s the one I need
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: how is 3D important if the screen is blank/
[20:09] <arcadegeek> ?
[20:09] <arcadegeek> what?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:09] <arcadegeek> so its a dead pc?
[20:09] <W4sp> primefalcon: Original is sed -n "$lineToDelete"'d'` but would try to use sed -e '$lineToDelete'd <filename>
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why do you need the CPU. It has nothing to do with display and black screens...
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: no I'm chatting to you on it now.
[20:10] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: that's 7 though, I need 6
[20:10] <W4sp> primefalcon: It works here.
[20:10] <disown> I am wondering is there any difference from a daemon program such as sshd , ...etc running in the background and a program I disown or nohup in the background ?
[20:10] <arcadegeek> its important
[20:10] <bekks> disown: Yes, there are :)
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: the CPU is a Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU      U2500  @ 1.20GHz 32bit
[20:10] <arcadegeek> it cant render 3D to wel
[20:10] <disown> essentially aren't they both deamons
[20:10] <disown> what is the differences bekks ?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: why is that important, even if it was 1.5Ghz it wouldn't make any difference to the installation experience
[20:11] <bekks> disown: A daemon was initially started as root, then dropped the root privileges (normally). Something just running in the background doesnt do that.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: that is irrelevant here, why is rendering 3D a factor?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: I do game on it FYI too, peumbra plays well
[20:11] <arcadegeek> maybe bicus im a 3D grapics disigner
[20:11] <bekks> disown: This difference is important, since otherwise you could start daemons like sshd, apache, etc. which use ports below 1024.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: but your issue is installation....so how is any of this of value
[20:12] <MoTec> you sure aren't an english major
[20:12] <arcadegeek> wel say its instald on an raspbery pi
[20:12] <bekks> *couldnt :)
[20:12] <arcadegeek> then its apsolutly pointles to have it
[20:12] <disown> " A daemon was initially started as root, then dropped the root privileges (normally). Something just running in the background doesnt do that." Well other then that sinces that can be taken care of be the application it self code in it
[20:12] <MoTec> arcadegeek is a troll, i believe.  or acting close enough to one to not make a difference.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: again, how is the fact my own CPU cannot render 3D (in youropinion) relevant to anything we are discussing, or your issue?
[20:12] <shookees> Hey guys, anyone coding in haskell?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: who said you should have it?
[20:13] <bekks> disown: Thats the most important difference.
[20:13] <arcadegeek> have what
[20:13] <disown> this is the equivalent of using the sticky bit kind of
[20:13] <bekks> Nope :)
[20:14] <bekks> A sticky bit is something totally different, even as equivalent.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: have a raspberry pi (no idea why that needs mentionng) or that my system can't do what you seem to need...why s that a factor in anything regarding your issue?
[20:14] <disown> well all your saying is the program is run by root uid gid 0 and then drops to a different uid or gid
[20:14] <arcadegeek> u say the 3D and the graphics dont mater, then why is it buging out on instalation
[20:14] <rwb> I'm trying to set up an epson wf-7010 printer with Ubuntu 12.04.  I can "add" the printer fine, when I click "print test page" I get a notification saying printed... but no action on the printer...  Any ideas?
[20:14] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip its an example
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: can you answer my simple question please
[20:14] <shookees> rwb, have you tried printing anything else?
[20:14] <arcadegeek> to ur why is a cpu important
[20:15] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip what question
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> (21:14:09) ActionParsnip: arcadegeek: have a raspberry pi (no idea why that needs mentionng) or that my system can't do what you seem to need...why s that a factor in anything regarding your issue?
[20:15] <rwb> yes, printing works fine on a different lazer jet
[20:15] <W4sp> rwb: I would check within CUPS (localhost:631) what your print queue stays. Also, there are CLI lpstat, lpc.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: i'll paste it as scrolling or even looking up seems too hard for you
[20:16] <W4sp> rwb: You job may be in the queue. IF you are on trouble shooting try to avoid GUI as the easily lie.
[20:16] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip wel ur not runing crisis anytime soon on a pi, u get what im saying
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: so what, why is that something to worry about when you cant boot your system that isn't a Pi?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its completely irrelevant, moot, worthless
[20:17] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip ehm its relivent aperently sine the i7 wont instal
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: you'll need to grab the java 6 bin file from the oracle site and copy it to /opt
[20:18] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip grapics are importent, since there some iseu with it aperently, so isnt ubunto/linux lacking somthing there
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: mark it as executable and run it, you can then change the path you need to reflect the one in opt, or copy it to wherever you need the java path to start, it will make a folder with the files needed for java in the place you run it
[20:18] <sianhulo> is there a way to connect my sixasis with ubuntu via usb?all i find is via bluetooth, and i have a desktop
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: its nvidia, like I have told you so many times
[20:19] <disown> " well all your saying is the program is run by root uid gid 0 and then drops to a different uid or gid after it initializes sensitive stuff" couldn't this be accomplished by creating a program with uid gid 0 access only then after it is done with the sensitive stuff just have it fork a process that isn't as restrictive
[20:19] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip so replace the nvidea card with an ati, is that it?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: intel loves linux, a lot, it ploughs time and money into the kernel and drivers. Using just Intel video will run well. As soon as you add an nvidia gpu to the mix youwill get issues.
[20:19] <guntbert> arcadegeek: please stop arguing, is there a problem with which you need help?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: no, that ATI also makes issues
[20:20] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnipthen what can i do
[20:20] <arcadegeek> there arent any others
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: I can't tell you any more, we have gone round in circles so many times and if you don't get it by now you need to scroll up and reread as i will just say the same stuff over and over
[20:20] <bekks> disown: A program like that is called a daemon.
[20:20] <disown> the only part not sure of is when forking how to change the uid / gid /umask of the new forked process but I bet there is away
[20:21] <disown> onces that is done it is essentially the same as a daemon correct
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: you need to add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:21] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip dude u tell me the video card is the iseu, i told i need a videocard to output somthing,(u never answerd me on that) so what card do i need
[20:21] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I see "download Done." but nothing else has popped up on my server
[20:21] <disown> though I do think daemon sounds cooler :)
[20:21] <bekks> disown: cooler than... daemon?
[20:22] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: nvm, just delayed
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: as the cpu has a gpu inbuilt you could change that, or just use the intel on its own. Its all I can suggest. Didn't you research before you bought...?
[20:22] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip i still have no output
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: hold SHIFT at boot...tried that...?
[20:23] <arcadegeek> ur not listening to me
[20:24] <disown> no daemon is cooler then regular disown/nohup program :)
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: as soon as the system starts to boot, even before the post beep, hold SHIFT
[20:24] <arcadegeek> if i change the boot to intel only i wont get any output, there is no vga port on the back of my pc, only the nvidea card, i had to change it blind last time
[20:24] <disown> for the name
[20:25] <BaronNinja> Shoo be doo this is a lot of lurkers
[20:25] <disown> though zombie process is cool to for the name :)
[20:25] <disown> but we have that already
[20:25] <disown> maybe devil process
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: if you boot to a Lucid CD, then upgrade is it ok?
[20:27] <BaronNinja> Yep, resizing partitions takes a looooong time...
[20:27] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip what?
[20:27] <PRabyte> why upgrade, you might brack other things, thats not the way to approach a singlular issue ActionParsnip
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: Try booting the previous LTS CD and installing then upgrade LTS to LTS directly to Precise
[20:28] <PRabyte> wow!
[20:28] <aguitel> i cannot running plasma desktop (kde) only false plasma session , how i know why ?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> PRabyte: might help with the install issue using an older Xorg and drivers
[20:28] <arcadegeek> u got a iso link to an older version
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> !download
[20:28] <linuxguy101> what will replace the flash player for linux?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: or you could search the web, its not hard
[20:29] <arcadegeek> whats a stable version? 10, 11 or do i have to go back more?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> linuxguy101: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: 10.04
 Have you installe dthe restricted extras package?
[20:30] <alex20032> Guy, I am wondering how can I switch the spellcheking globally (Need to altern fast between french and english, Not only in Libre office, but every application, including firefox, I live in a billingual region.) Only spell checking and dictionary, not the system language
[20:30] <arcadegeek> ActionParsnip thx il try that
[20:31] <sianhulo> when typing dmesg i get this http://pastebin.com/kHtibULx ps3 controller is seen by the system, but it does nothing, how do i configure it in my computer?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: see what happens if you actually state your issue
[20:31] <linuxguy101> ActionParsnip: so i am stuck running it on chrome?  ewww..
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> arcadegeek: "(19:59:30) arcadegeek: i realy want to like and suport linux ubuntu and stuff"           <- stuff like that
[20:32] <sre-su> Hello! I'm using gcc version 4.6.3 on Ubuntu. Is there a way to access function declaration/syntax/definition offline like the way man allows for any command? (I remember using Borland TC++ which had Index, Contents etc.. for reference) Is there man pages package which contains C standard library functions/help/index?
[20:32] <Roasted> So.. my server gets offset from NTP servers about 3/4 of a second per day... Is this by any stretch of the imagination - normal?
[20:32] <arcadegeek> imsorry im just pist after failure after faleure
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> linuxguy101: i'm sure crappy firefox will make something but at present thats the deal
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> linuxguy101: could try gnash or
[20:33] <gld1982ltd> hey.........what is the channel for packaging?
[20:33] <linuxguy101> ActionParsnip: i may give it a shot, i am not a huge fan of flash, i want an open source alternative that will be better than flash
[20:33] <gld1982ltd> nm.....got it
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> linuxguy101: or lightspark
[20:34] <m1chael> i'm thinking of switching my server from CentOS to Ubuntu.. what would you guys say about that?
[20:34] <W4sp> Roasted: Not neccessarily. Did you install the second one more recently?
[20:34] <OerHeks> linuxguy101, no need for flash in youtube, enable html5
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: try it, see how it goes :)
[20:34] <bekks> m1chael: Do whatever you want to do. :)
[20:34] <Roasted> W4sp, install the 2nd what - there's another NTP?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: try it, see how it goes :)
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: sorry, wrong target
[20:34] <W4sp> ActionParsnip: I don't get it?
[20:35] <orestes> divx4linux blocking all my updates and synaptic ! what can i do ?
[20:35] <linuxguy101> OerHeks: will html5 replace flash like they say it will?
[20:35] <orestes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040912
[20:35] <Artemis3> m1chael, if you can afford the downtime, sure. Backup and switch.
[20:35] <W4sp> Roasted: The one that's 3/4 offset per day.
[20:35] <OerHeks> linuxguy101, maybe, and it is working now ( not for other sites)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> linuxguy101: or use minitube for youtube
[20:35] <m1chael> i just really don't like the CentOS docs
[20:35] <PRabyte> ActionParsnip: putting in a disk and saying upgrade may break other things. opening the cd and cp the drivers and such makes more sense. he might press a wrong button. agree?
[20:35] <linuxguy101> might try that
[20:35] <OerHeks> www.youtube.com/html5
[20:36] <Artemis3> m1chael, i suggest you stick to Ubuntu LTS in your server.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> PRabyte: then upgrade using the web, saves having to upgradethe OS after
[20:36] <PRabyte> nevermind
[20:37] <yam_> hey can anybody tell me what are these little thigs on my print page from a pdf?          http://bit.ly/NoFK68
[20:37] <sianhulo> as far as i have read, kernel newer than  2.6.21 should make the ps3 automatically operational
[20:37] <bekks> yam_: printing marks.
[20:37] <sianhulo> i have 3.2.0-29 but it only detects the controller, it doesnt do anything
[20:37] <yam_> how can i get rid of them bekks?
[20:38] <R1cochet> hello, i have ubuntu 12.04 installed on a vps, im trying to start screen but it says "No More PTY's" "/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory"
[20:38] <R1cochet> how can i fix this? ive tried reinstalling screen but it doesnt help
[20:38] <bekks> yam_: by asking the author of that pdf to provide a version without printing marks.
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: if you add the playdeb repo, do these apps help: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=joy
[20:41] <W4sp> R1cochet: Could you check ls -la /dev/pts and does /var/run/utmp exist?
[20:42] <yam_> anybody knows how i can remove printing marks form a pdf file?
[20:42] <sianhulo> i cant see how does that help me, but still, thank you
[20:43] <TJ-> R1cochet: If it's OpenVZ you need to add the utmp file
[20:43] <compdoc> yam_, you own a scanner?
[20:43] <yam_> yep
[20:43] <W4sp> Roasted: I asked you if you have installed a second host as I assumed you have now two, of which only one is 3/4 off.
[20:43] <compdoc> print it, scan it, and edit out the marks.
[20:43] <TJ-> R1cochet: I think you need to do: "sudo touch /var/run/utmp && sudo chmod 664 /var/run/utmp && sudo chown root.utmp /var/run/utmp"
[20:44] <OerHeks> compdoc print to file saves trees
[20:45] <Roasted> W4sp, I'm talking about NTP here... my server gets offset 3/4 of a second per day, so after a while the time of course is way out of whack. I'm just trying to track if that's in any way normal or what.
[20:45] <Debolaz> Could someone send me a private message? I need to test if the xchat-indicator package is working.
[20:46] <R1cochet> W4sp: only thing in /dev/pts is "0"
[20:46] <R1cochet> TJ-: i ran those commands, it did not help
[20:46] <sianhulo> http://ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/ this says that my ps3 controllers should be working withput doing anything because of my kernel version, but it's not
[20:47] <sianhulo> the system sees my controller, but the cotroller doesn't do anything
[20:48] <lilred> sianhulo, while I am not familiar with your problem, the page you linked clearly says its out of date - can't that be related?
[20:48] <lilred> anyway
[20:48] <primefalcon> W4sp, you still around?
[20:48] <W4sp> R1cochet: That's not sufficient and is clearly wrong. That's why you have it. Out of my curiosity. The error message is a copy/paste? I wonder if the auther couldn't spell.
[20:48] <W4sp> primefalcon: Yeah.
[20:48] <lilred> sianhulo, can you pastebin the result of dmesg | tail -4
[20:48] <primefalcon> got it working with echo -e "$passwordlist" | sed -e "$lineToDelete"d | cat -n
[20:48] <primefalcon> as you suggested pretty much
[20:48] <lilred> nah, just dmesg
[20:48] <W4sp> primefalcon: Hey, that's great. Good to hear.
[20:49] <sianhulo> lilred, it actually says that kernelnewer than 2.6.21 should works without the patch they provide
[20:49] <W4sp> primefalcon: Doyou use double quotes?
[20:49] <primefalcon> W4sp, thanks for your help :-) again :-) for some reason had to you the duble quotes though
[20:49] <R1cochet> W4sp: simcut@whatever:~$ ls -la /dev/pts
[20:49] <R1cochet> total 20
[20:49] <R1cochet> drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root      0 Mar 27 17:59 .
[20:49] <R1cochet> drwxr-xr-x 11 root   root  20480 Aug 11 14:54 ..
[20:49] <lilred> sianhulo, two things, what is your Ubuntu version? and can you give me the result of dmesg?
[20:49] <R1cochet> crw--w----  1 simcut tty  136, 0 Aug 12 00:49 0
[20:49] <FloodBot1> R1cochet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <guntbert> Debolaz: you can use #test for that purpose :)
[20:49] <R1cochet> sorry
[20:50] <primefalcon> W4sp, wouldn't work with single quotes.. same code
[20:50] <W4sp> primefalcon: OK, good to know. Good luck
[20:51] <sianhulo> lilred, 12.04 http://pastebin.com/H17zt0ep
[20:52] <lilred> okay, understand that I am in no way an expert, but I'll still try to help you :)
[20:52] <gomek> Greetings everyone
[20:52] <primefalcon> so now have it 100% working with: echo -e "$passwordlist" | sed -e "$lineToDelete"d | gpg -e -r $gpgKey > "$location/Passwords.txt.gpg"
[20:52] <sianhulo> lilred, it appears in both lsusb and dmesg
[20:52] <lilred> so, the OS detects your controller! This is good news
[20:52] <lilred> exactly what is not working?
[20:52] <edgy> how can i know which packages require a specific package?
[20:52] <sianhulo> lilred, yep, n problems there, but i cant get it to interact with anything
[20:53] <lilred> "anything" being?
[20:53] <lilred> tell me something you've tried :P
[20:53] <Orphis> Hi
[20:53] <sianhulo> lilred, i wat to use it as a controller, but it gives no responses when ussing sticks, buttons triiger or anything
[20:53] <lilred> hi Orphis!
[20:53] <lilred> sianhulo, controller in what?
[20:54] <W4sp> R1cochet: Once you have pastebin that please can I also ask if you mount command shows something like devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)?
[20:54] <Orphis> I've just installed ubuntu on a new computer and the installer couldn't install grub (probably because it's a gpt disk)
[20:54] <sianhulo> lilred, emulators, but as it is, it left stick SHOULD act as mouse
[20:54] <gomek> Has anyone tried Xubuntu?
[20:54] <Orphis> So I've tried to use the grub for EFI but I'm having a hard time making it work
[20:55] <lilred> okay, so emulators don't work
[20:55] <sianhulo> lilred, and the problem here is that there are not tutorials as it should work with my kernel(that's why i had to bring an outdated tutorial), the only tutorials there are are for paiing it via bluetooth
[20:55] <lilred> this is a silly question, but have you tried playing with the control configuration in your emulator's options?
[20:55] <Orphis> I've got some efi shell that I use to run the grub.efi but I don't have any menu and it stops with this error message "file not found"
[20:55] <guntbert> gomek: no polls here please - this channel is for support only
[20:56] <sianhulo> lilred, nothing works, it is detected by the system but it doesn't do nothing
[20:56] <lilred> alright, I'm stumped :(
[20:56] <R1cochet> W4sp: how do i check the mount command?
[20:56] <lilred> This page looks like it has help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis/
[20:56] <lilred> wait, you're right, bluetooth
[20:56] <sianhulo> lilred, even though its detected you don't get a "reaction"
[20:56] <lilred> -_-
[20:56] <W4sp> R1cochet: You type in mount in a terminal. IT shows you the mounted devices.
[20:57] <gomek> ok
[20:57] <sianhulo> lilred, it would help if i hade bluettoth in my computer, but i have a desktop
[20:57] <R1cochet> W4sp: http://pastie.org/4457116
[20:57] <Khas> Hiya.  How do I edit/restart wpa_supplicant from the command line?
[20:57] <Khas> I've created wpa_supplicant.conf, but I have no idea how to restart it in ubuntu from the livecd XD
[20:58] <defigo> Khas, checkout iwconfig
[20:58] <lilred> sianhulo, it's detected as a HID device, meaning it's supposed to work
[20:58] <sianhulo> lilred, the link i gave says that even though the controller is seen by the system, you should make it "operational" before you can do anything with it, and they provide a patch, but they also say that in newer kernel that patch isnt necesary as it comes with it
[20:58] <Khas> defigo: I need WPA2, iwconfig doesn't support that.
[20:58] <lilred> I honestly have no idea what's wrong
[20:59] <sianhulo> lilred, yep, thats the prblem, it is SUPPOSED to work, but it's not
[20:59] <lilred> HID is my territory, and usually something that works as HID works out of the box
[20:59] <Khas> Unless it's been updated when I didn't realise o.o
[20:59] <lilred> :(
[21:00] <defigo> Khas, you're maybe right, it's been a while since i've used it, so networkmanager doesn't work?
[21:00] <Bhalash> wicd?
[21:00] <Khas> defigo: I have no mouse.  I'm only using it as a livecd to get the wireless for my new and New card, so I can install Gentoo.
[21:01] <Khas> Except I have no idea how on earth ubuntu works internally, it feels all wrong XD
[21:01] <defigo> Khas, you can use networkmanager from terminal too
[21:01] <Khas> defigo: oooh, nice, what's the command? networkmanager isn't found
[21:01] <defigo> NetworkManager
[21:02] <W4sp> R1cochet: I read it. IT is clearly wrong and also wrongly mounted. See my suggestions on how it should look. You mentioned it is a VPS. Given that you have pasted it I assume you have full root access. However, I would suggest you contact the rack space provider. Explain to them that /dev/ptmx isn't properly mounted on /dev/pts and therefore you ran out of pseudo terminals.
[21:02] <sianhulo> lilred, furthermore, it get's recognized by QTsixA(though this app is for pairing via bluetooth so this doesn't help)
[21:02] <W4sp> R1cochet: This is how it should look like: devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[21:03] <R1cochet> W4sp: i think i mounted it last night myself
[21:03] <R1cochet> iirc
[21:03] <R1cochet> i just did a reboot on it
[21:03] <Khas> defigo: it's already running?  I tried killall and started it again, but it was reloaded.
[21:04] <defigo> Khas, it's service so service NetworkManager restart   ... etc
[21:04] <sre-su> Hello! I'm using gcc version 4.6.3 on Ubuntu. Is there a way to access function declaration/syntax/definition offline like the way man allows for any command? (I remember using Borland TC++ which had Index, Contents etc.. for reference) Is there man pages package which contains C standard library functions/help/index?
[21:04] <W4sp> R1cochet: You...? Well, did you install the system? It shoudl be there just by default. Nothing much you can do wrong to be honest.
[21:04] <defigo> Khas, but man NetworkManager ... I assume you're more advanced with linux than me if you're going to install gentoo :)
[21:05] <R1cochet> i did not install the system. it is a friends vps
[21:05] <trism> sre-su: manpages-dev if I understand you correctly
[21:05] <R1cochet> i was trying to play with it last night. finally got sudoers working today
[21:05] <R1cochet> he was logging in as root :(
[21:06] <sre-su> trism: Yes, I installed that package. But not sure how to use it
[21:06] <W4sp> R1cochet: As I said, the best is to approach the provider and explain the situation. This is the root cause why your utmp throws the execption.
[21:07] <trism> sre-su: man function_name
[21:07] <Khas> defigo: yeah, I've never used NetworkManager before, I set everything up manually
[21:08] <oisa> Sysinfo tells me I have 16GB of swap, but I chose to not setup a swap partition. Is there a swap file set by Ubuntu somewhere?
[21:08] <defigo> Khas, I bet you do :) Is your card detected?
[21:08] <trism> sre-su: there are also some pages for the individual headers, man stdio; man string; etc
[21:09] <sre-su> trism: It gave o results for <man while> but works for man printf scanf etc
[21:09] <trism> sre-su: while isn't a function
[21:09] <compdoc> oisa, you can use gparted and look
[21:09] <sre-su> Yes, it isn't
[21:10] <Khas> defigo: in ubuntu, yes.  The ubuntu live cd has a slightly newer kernel than the gentoo livecd, which is why I need it for wireless.  After that I copy gentoo files, then chroot into gentoo anyway. :-)
[21:10] <sre-su> trism: There is no offline access to index and help data related to C ?
[21:10] <minimec> oisa: You should see that in /etc/fstab, if and where a swap partition or file is mounted.
[21:10] <Li> What mplayer2 version is more up to date, the one that's in ubuntu's repos or https://launchpad.net/~ripps818/+archive/coreavc
[21:10] <defigo> Khas, /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[21:11] <W4sp> R1cochet: Besides, loggin in as root is not a bad thing. At some point a system needs to be administered. Don't blame him/her for that. ;-)
[21:11] <oisa> Gparted shows I do have swap on an extended partition... Thanks
[21:11] <oisa> Can you resize an ext4 partition live?
[21:11] <trism> sre-su: there may be, I don't know of any of the top of my head, I'll see if there is anything in the repo
[21:11] <Khas> defigo: argh! The only thing that should be capital in linux is X :-P
[21:12] <oisa> Nevermind I guess not... Thanks
[21:12] <Khas> (I jest)
[21:12] <sianhulo> have anyone used a ps3 controller on ubuntu?
[21:12] <defigo> khas, iwconfig wlan0 essid NAME_OF_ACCESS_POINT
[21:12] <Khas> defigo: it's a WPA2 AP, iwconfig doesn't support WPA2.
[21:13] <R1cochet> ughh i have a larger issue now. i rebooted with `sudo reboot` and now i can log in via ssh
[21:13] <defigo> Khas, I guess iwconfig and networkmanager works together... (I'm just reading askubuntu)
[21:13] <R1cochet> i can even ping the server
[21:13]  * W4sp .oO(defigo is right about capitalisation)
[21:13] <narcos> Hi all. Has anyone ever had luck getting pyOpenSSL >= 0.12 installed on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[21:14] <W4sp> R1cochet: If that's for me please put my name into it. It highlights here and we have >1500 user online.
[21:14] <Khas> defigo: wpa_supplicant is what I need.  And it seems to be a service, too.
[21:14] <W4sp> R1cochet: Is it can or can't ...?
[21:14] <R1cochet> W4sp: sorry. it was for anyone that had any idea how to help.
[21:14] <sre-su> trism: Thanks
[21:15] <R1cochet> i cannot ping the server now. nor ssh, nor open address in browser
[21:15] <R1cochet> W4sp: ssh: connect to host 67.23.238.37 port 22: Connection timed out
[21:15] <defigo> Khas, I have vague recollection that if you config wpa_supplicant it works with iwconfig (from slackware times so awhile back) but I could be wrong.. I'll try to dig up some old links
[21:15] <W4sp> R1cochet: That's perhaps something we would expect as there are no pts available.
[21:16] <R1cochet> W4sp: so if i cant login via ssh, how can i administer?
[21:17] <W4sp> R1cochet: You can't. Speak to the provider. I would only repeat what I have said to you earlier.
[21:17] <R1cochet> ok ty
[21:17] <ubuntu-gpt-hdd> Hi, I formatted a 3TB HDD as NTFS (GPT) using Disk Utility in Ubuntu, but can't access the files on my Windows computer. Does Ubuntu encrypt the data copied across?
[21:18] <bekks> ubuntu-gpt-hdd: No.
[21:18] <ubuntu-gpt-hdd> I also has a sectar misalignment message while formatting the HDD, any ideas?
[21:19] <CokeAddict> how do I find all files in a dir containing a piece of text?
[21:19] <defigo> khan, "* The wpa_supplicant.conf example in the previous section will support WPA as well as WPA2 encrypted networks. "
[21:19] <dbtmro2> Hi. My sopcast channels won't wok anymore on VLC Ubuntu 12.04 x32. Please help.
[21:19] <bekks> CokeAddict: grep subject file.name
[21:20] <sandprickle> looking for some reccomendations on an Ubuntu derivative
[21:21] <guntbert> sandprickle: not here please - this channle is for support only
[21:22] <Debolaz> sandprickle: You might want to try ##linux
[21:22] <defigo> khas, proto=WPA WPA2    seems to be only difference to wpa1
[21:25] <Khas> defigo: I don't see a proto directive in the man pages for iwconfig
[21:25] <Khas> I'm happy to try NetworkManager if I knew what I was doing.  So far I've turned 'managed' from 'false' to 'true'
[21:25] <Gary_inNYC> I have an issue trying to mount an SD card in 10.04, where it only shows up as SecureDigitalDrive but cannot be opened.
[21:25] <sandprickle> appologies
[21:25] <obscurant1st> I installed gnome3 along with unity. Now when I select gnome3 on my login screen, only a prt of my desktop is being displayed. Can somebody help me please?
[21:25] <defigo> khas, can you pastenbin your wpa_supplicant.conf?
[21:26] <defigo> khas, oh right you can't use mouse
[21:26] <Gary_inNYC> i have the SD card in an external usb reader but the sd card can't be opened
[21:27] <defigo> Khas, can you pm it to me somehow?
[21:27] <TJ-> CokeAddict: "find /path/to/directory -maxdepth 1 -exec grep -ni 'findthistext' {}; \
[21:27] <Khas> defigo: wgetpaste ftw ;-)
[21:27] <Khas> https://gist.github.com/3327417
[21:27] <bekks> TJ-: OUCH.
[21:27] <TJ-> bekks: ;p
[21:27] <bekks> TJ-: grep -ri thistext *.txt :)
[21:27] <Khas> defigo: if I knew where the default wpa_supplicant.conf to edit was, I'd be fine, when I kill wpa_supplicant it gets restarted anyway
[21:28] <TJ-> bekks: no that won't work for *all* files - it will miss any that begin with a dot such as .config
[21:28] <bekks> TJ-: grep -ri thistext .
[21:28] <bekks> :P
[21:28] <DanS> Hmm.. how do you stop X on ubunto 12.04?
[21:28] <bekks> Or even grep -ri thistext * .*
[21:28] <TrollingForSoup> killall xorg-server maybe, DanS
[21:28] <DanS> thanks.
[21:29] <TrollingForSoup> Not sure if that's the process name.
[21:29] <TJ-> bekks: if you do grep -r 'text' .* (to try an check sub-dirs - a very useful thing when working with source-code packages)  it'll try to follow .. to the parent directory
[21:30] <obscurant1st> somebody please?
[21:30] <TJ-> bekks: I once expereince a runaway grep in the linux source tree ... scared the thingies out of me wondering what I'd typed!
[21:30] <TJ-> DanS: "sudo service lightdm stop"
[21:31] <DanS> hmm. doesn't seem to..
[21:31] <defigo> Khas, try to add in network block         key_mgmt=WPA-PSK WPA-EAP
[21:32] <aguitel> i am installing nvidia-current drver is needed to blacklist nouveau ?
[21:32] <Khas> defigo: wpa_supplicant works fine, I'm running it now to talk to you with that config on gentoo. ;-) It's WPA_supplicant, it tests the type of WPA that the AP is broadcasting.
[21:32] <primefalcon> !mk g7
[21:32] <defigo> Khas, so it's all working now?
[21:32] <primefalcon> !mk G7
[21:32] <Khas> Heh no, this is my laptop.
[21:33] <Khas> I was just explaining how wpa_supplicant worked.
[21:33] <Khas> The problem isn't the config, the problem is how to tell ubuntu to use that config XD
[21:33] <DanS> thanks that worked.
[21:33] <Noriandir> hi. i'm not being able to boot the ubuntu 12.04 through a usb pen. I get a black screen after a bit
[21:34] <Noriandir> the LCD has its power led flashing... =/
[21:34] <Noriandir> any ideas?
[21:35] <Noriandir> usb pen created using Lili USB
[21:36] <defigo> Khas, I think that  you only need to restart the NetworkManager service, or shut it down and use iwconfig
[21:37] <Khas> defigo: I tried server NetworkManager restart and it said there was no such service.
[21:38] <defigo> Khas, try with network-manager ... it's listed in the services that way anyway
[21:38] <Khas> defigo: thanks.  A bit illogical, but I guess it's done now
[21:39] <davv3> are there any official people here helping at all?
[21:39] <davv3> it just feels like chaos..
[21:39] <defigo> Khas, is it working? and yes it is illogical
[21:40] <defigo> Khas, well at least non consistent :)
[21:40] <Khas> defigo: stopping network-manager allowed me to kill wpa_supplicant, running it directly from the command line worked. Thanks.
[21:41] <defigo> Khas, glad (and supprised) I could help :)
[21:42] <aleong> hi folks, I was wondering if someone had time to help me with a problem getting audio to work over HDMI
[21:43] <aleong> I've got a TV hooked up to the onboard HDMI port, video is working but audio is not.  HDMI doesn't show up as an option in System Settings -> Sound
[21:44] <TJ-> davv3: This is Ubuntu community support
[21:45] <Orphis> Is someone here using grub-efi to boot ubuntu?
[21:45] <Orphis> I'd like to get the list of files in the efi boot partition
[21:46] <Orphis> There's something wrong with mine and I'd like to figure out what
[21:47] <xui34> where is the appropriate place to put a backup script that is started by cron daily?
[21:47] <TrollingForSoup> Anywhere.
[21:47] <TrollingForSoup> As long as you point cron to the right place.
[21:47] <TrollingForSoup> I just store them all in root, but probably not the best idea, organization-wise.
[21:49] <W4sp> xui34: /usr/local/sbin or /usr/sbin ?
[21:49] <Topol> How do I get BlueRay working?
[21:49] <Topol> My mp3's don't work how do I fix this
[21:49] <Topol> How do i customize Unity, it sucks
[21:49] <xui34> W4sp: that is what I was thinking...
[21:49] <Topol> lulz will ensure
[21:50] <[deXter]> Topol, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:51] <Topol> loooooooool
[21:52] <Topol> Ubuntuce is really gay
[21:52] <Topol> pls halp
[21:53] <pnorman> I'm compiling something from source that's also available as a package (gdal-bin) and installing it with checkinstall. Should I give it the same name with checkinstall?
[21:55] <jost> hi
[21:55] <jost> Is there a simple (i.e. fast to set up) ftp server for ubuntu, which allows virtual users to be created?
[21:56] <[deXter]> pnorman, No
[21:56] <TJ-> jost: proftpd supports virtual users
[21:56] <jost> security would be nice, too, but should be the topmost concern in this case
[21:56] <pnorman> [deXter]: What's the appropriate name then?
[21:56] <deadmund> oh gawd
[21:56] <deadmund> don't use ftp
[21:56] <deadmund> ftp needs to die
[21:56] <[deXter]> pnorman, Anything other than a name in the repos
[21:57] <jost> deadmund, what do you suggest as replacement?
[21:57] <deadmund> jost: what more precisely are you trying to do?
[21:57] <Noriandir> jost: try vsftpd
[21:57] <bekks> jost: AT LEAST using SFTP.
[21:57] <pnorman> [deXter]: Is there a way to indicate that my machine has the software and it shouldn't ever try to install it with apt?
[21:58] <deadmund> Off the top of my head either use scp or nfs
[21:58]  * Debolaz has a FTP server running on localhost because wordpress wants it.
[21:58] <bekks> deadmund: NFS3 is as insecure as FTP.
[21:59] <deadmund> uhhhh... so?
[21:59] <bekks> deadmund: At least NFS4 using kerberos.
[21:59] <TJ-> jost: what Noriandir said ... vsftpd
[21:59] <deadmund> bekks: I agree.
[21:59] <bekks> deadmund: In that case, SFTP is as secure and much easier.
[21:59] <deadmund> Unless of course we're all talking about anything outside of an internal LAN behind a firewall
[22:00] <deadmund> bekks: sftp is secure I suppose...
[22:01] <jost> I'm trying to upload a website (about 11k files and 2-3 GB data) to a server. Copying over SSH is not an option due to the size of the upload and the instability of my internet connection (at least one disconnect per day...)
[22:01] <jost> deadmund
[22:01] <deadmund> jost: Try using rysnc :)
[22:01] <pnorman> I don't like FTP for a few reasons, but security isn't always an issue - when downloading publically available files with an anonymous login it doesn't really matter if someone sniffs the  connection
[22:01] <pnorman> jost: rsync
[22:01] <deadmund> jost: You can setup a simple script but likely it's one rsync command
[22:01] <bekks> rsync -e ssh :)
[22:02] <omido> Hi,newbie here. how can i remove the previously configured settings of an app? for example i want to remove the past manual configurations that i did to opera browser.
[22:02] <pnorman> also, ftp is a bad choice for lots of files
[22:02] <deadmund> omido: Find that apps . folder in your home folder (hidden settings folder)
[22:02] <jost> security wouldn't be a real problem here - the ftp deamon would be stopped after the upload, I only need to do that every 3-4 months or so.
[22:02] <omido> deadmund,  how can i do so ? i'm newbie
[22:03] <deadmund> omido: do you have a /home/<youruser>/.opera?   (make sure you have hidden file view on
[22:03] <jost> but thanks for the hints about rsync
[22:03] <deadmund> jost: I see :)
[22:04] <jost> looks just like the thing I've always needed :-)
[22:04] <deadmund> yeah, rsync is awesome
[22:06] <omido> deadmund,  thanks
[22:06] <deadmund> omido: sure! :)
[22:07] <ESphynx> Hey guys, so what dependency should I list if I want lib32ffi-dev?
[22:09] <laumonier> hi ive got no sound on ubuntu can someone can help me to fix that?? thx
[22:09] <mhahe> hello ppl, i updated my computer and for some reason now my wireless brodcom drivers are disabled and so are my nvidea gfx drivers... i tried to reactive but i keep getting this msg: Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[22:10] <mhahe> any reason this is happening?
[22:10] <deadmund> laumonier: this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting/
[22:12] <dougl> what do you suppose would make a printout do this http://imagebin.org/224201
[22:13] <JainAmber> Hello
[22:14] <JainAmber> Does Ubuntu runs any slower if wubi/windows installer is used instead of 'native' install?
[22:14] <JainAmber> I guess it does run slow, but I still thought of asking...
[22:15] <cmaiz82> hi all, can you help me about unity bar? not show the icons :S
[22:16] <cmaiz82> i upgrade and after reboot not see any icons, but i can use it
[22:18] <TJ-> JainAmber: it shouldn't run slower, except that when reading/writing disk it won't have as great a throughput as when it is installed to a disk partition.
[22:19] <JainAmber> ok thanks TJ- :)
[22:19] <W4sp> mhahe: The best is to pastebin /var/log/jockey.log. Please note the logs rotate and the error message is in an older log file.
[22:20] <cmaiz82> how can it remove added repository?
[22:20] <cmaiz82> what is the code?
[22:21] <cmaiz82> i think the problem is about problematic repository
[22:21] <W4sp> mhahe: Also, ensure the Broadcom packages are installed (bcm).
[22:22] <mhahe> w4sp ill post the link to my log soon, but i dont get it why are my drivers missing after an upgrade :S
[22:23] <aguitel> cmaiz82, find and delete in /etc/apt/sources.list or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:23] <xui34> does anybody know how to get the username of the person running a script where the script is being run as root?
[22:24] <W4sp> mhahe: I can't tell but it's probably down to licensing. Some drivers annot be shipped. Also, you may have excluded 3rd party driver.
[22:24] <mhahe> w4sp, http://pastebin.com/iJ6Fgy9v
[22:24] <mhahe> thats the log
[22:25] <OerHeks> cmaiz82, use ppa-purge to delete and restore your sources
[22:25] <aleong> really having a hard time debugging this sound issue.  can anyone advise or point me to a more appropriate channel?
[22:25] <cmaiz82> cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$ sudo ppa-purge sudo: ppa-purge: command not found cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$
[22:25] <aleong> HDMI is listed in aplay -l but nothing I have tried will play sound
[22:26] <cmaiz82> thanks aguitel but i dont see the repository
[22:26] <cmaiz82> i added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[22:26] <cmaiz82> but now i dont know how to remove it
[22:26] <OerHeks> aleong, try #alsa
[22:26] <OerHeks> !alsa
[22:26] <cmaiz82> it seems that the problem with unity bar is for this repository
[22:27] <aleong> thanks, I'll ask there :)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> cmaiz82: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[22:27] <aguitel> !nvidia
[22:27] <cmaiz82> cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa sudo: ppa-purge: command not found cmaiz82@linux-laptop:~$
[22:27] <cmaiz82> ActionParsnip,
[22:28] <W4sp> mhahe: Oh well. The answer is in the log file. I suggest you look for alternative ways to source your drivers. They may be on their web site. Also, there are others more qualified when it comes to nvidia and broadcom. There are alternative drivers for nvidia.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> cmaiz82: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[22:28] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge ( not installed by default, will work with ppa's added before install )
[22:29] <cmaiz82> ActionParsnip, oh well, thank you now work xD
[22:31] <trazplan> hola
[22:33] <GH0> Why does it say that I have five users logged in, but only three are? http://pastebin.com/cbuWdsu3
[22:33] <myke_> Question: Would a 7850 Radeon Graphics card work well for ubuntu 12.04?
[22:33] <GH0> myke_, from what I heard, ATi is not great with linux.
[22:33] <GH0> Driver wise.
[22:34] <lilred> Hey guys, my linux stutters a lot. Any idea how to fix?
[22:34] <lilred> whoops
[22:34] <lilred> my youtube*
[22:34] <myke_> oh :( ok thank you
[22:35] <antonio_> good evening..
[22:35] <lilred> my youtube stutters, anyone has a fix?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> lilred: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[22:40] <antonio_> I have thinkpad t60 but i am not able to enable the touchpad..
[22:40] <antonio_> any idea??
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: are there any shortcut keys to enable / disable the touchpad?
[22:42] <lilred> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142007/
[22:42] <antonio_> i didn't find any shortcut..
[22:42] <Artemis3> antonio_, or a button on top
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: try:         synclient TouchpadOff=0
[22:42] <antonio_> i did already
[22:43] <antonio_> no luck >(
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> lilred: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:43] <antonio_> :(
[22:43] <antonio_> ok
[22:43] <antonio_> thank you..
[22:44] <GH0> Isn't traceroute installed by default on a Ubuntu install.
[22:44] <exutux> GH0: tracepath
[22:44] <W4sp> GH0: Try tracepath. You need to install traceroute as it is not default.
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: tried Fn+F7?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: what was the sad face for??
[22:45] <GH0> Hm, could have sworn I have used traceroute before on a standard ubuntu install. Anyways, thank you.
[22:45] <antonio_> fn+f7 doesn't work..
[22:46] <trailbar> i am trying to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer but the standard ubuntu 12.04 cd does not have a install/netboot folder - which iso/cd is this referring to exactly?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: and what was the face for?
[22:47] <antonio_> when you said try synclient touchpadoff=0
[22:47] <antonio_> which i tried already but didn't work, then i made a sad face..
[22:47] <kid47> hello
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: seems you need an xorg.conf file: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T60/etch     may help if its not autodetected.
[22:49] <exutux> trailbar: alternate iso or minimal too i think
[22:49] <antonio_> actionparsnip: any other ideas?
[22:50] <exutux> trailbar: and server iso
[22:50] <antonio_> ok
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i mouse; lsb_release -a      can you please pastebin the output: http://pastie.org
[22:50] <DanS> I have problem where I don't have an xorg.conf file in 12.04. Apparently its not needed anymore.  A lot of the internet seems to say "sudo Xorg -configure" but that doesn't work because  the xserver is still running..
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: you really need to learn patience, I'm not THAT fast, nobody is. Chill out
[22:51] <exutux> DanS: you have to kill X session and run command in tty
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: cold also try: gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
[22:51] <trailbar> exutux: any way i can confirm for certain which cd? i am not on a fast internet connection would prefer to avoid wasting time downloading another incorrect iso :]
[22:52] <DanS> With 2sudo service lightdm stop"?
[22:52] <exutux> trailbar: try minimal iso install, it's a small iso... but I'm not sure..
[22:52] <W4sp> DanS: Wait a moment, please. There's a better way.
[22:52] <exutux> trailbar: lemem some minutes, so I can download it and see
[22:53] <DanS> Okay sure.
[22:53] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/amazing/the-prices-of-famous-logos/
[22:53] <Kitar|st> wow
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: Fn+F8 do anything?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Kitar|st: please spam elsewhere
[22:55] <W4sp> DanS: Teh command would be sudo Xorg :1 -configure > ~/xorg.conf.new
[22:55] <trailbar> exutux: hey thanks! but don't trouble yourself actually, i think i'm trying this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[22:56] <DanS> W4sp: I still get the X is already running error.
[22:56] <trailbar> exutux: (but i appreciate it, cheers)
[22:56] <W4sp> DanS: Once you have done review the file, make changes as required (that's the reason for you to have xorg.conf in the forst place) or merge the settings from an existing conf file.
[22:57] <exutux> trailbar: well... miniso doesn't has netinstall dir
[22:57] <W4sp> DanS: Just try :0 or :2. Are you in front of the system that is supposed to have the xorg.conf?
[22:57] <sam_> need help to install a source file     sourceforge.net/projects/tvpvrd/
[22:57] <DanS> W4ps: Oh, heck sorry missed a space.
[22:58] <W4sp> DanS: OK. Did you see my other info re. merge of the conf file.
[22:58] <DanS> That's still errored though unfortunately.  "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"  "configureation failed"
[22:58] <m1chael> hey everyone. you know those services out there that work with routers and give you a hostname.dyndns.org -- and no matter what your ip is, it will resolve to your ever-changing cable modem? how does that work? is their TTL set low on the DNS server? is it basically just doing a check and when a change is detected, it updates the DNS server?
[22:59] <antonio_> actionparsnip: fn+f8 doesn't do anything. by the way i am not in rush. i can wait.
[22:59] <bekks> m1chael: the latter.
[22:59] <sam_> anybody know how to install tvpvrd?
[22:59] <antonio_> actionparsnip: I paste the output. thank you..
[23:00] <m1chael> okay. i'm going to implement my own with my public name server and my local machine
[23:00] <DanS> W4ps: and I did aye.
[23:00] <W4sp> DanS: Could you check if you have multiple .Xauthority files in your home directory? Delete the older ones.
[23:00] <DanS> Sure thing.
[23:01] <W4sp> DanS: You did what? Read my comment or created the file?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: just install the client on your server, or if your router supports it, add the account there and it will update periodically so that the IP is correct
[23:01] <alusion> I'm running an ubuntu based distro how do I verify what version I'm on?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: you don't need a nameserver on your system, your router already performs DNS for you
[23:02] <exutux> W4sp: hey great I didn't knew that Xorg command :D
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> alusion: lsb_release -sc      what is output?
[23:02] <DanS> W4ps: Only the one .Xauthority file. Though there is an xorg.conf.new in there now.
[23:02] <[PHAMTOM]> hello
[23:02] <[PHAMTOM]> my scroll whell isnt working
[23:03] <alusion> lucid
[23:03] <[PHAMTOM]> anyone could help me?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: is it on a mouse?
[23:03] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: yup
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> alusion: then it's Ubuntu 10.04, the desktop is EOL in April next year
[23:03] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: a ps2
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: does it have a make and model?
[23:03] <m1chael> actionparsnip: i need to be able to access my home machine remotely
[23:03] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: it says Agiler
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: then you can install openssh-server and get secure file transfer and shell access
[23:04] <W4sp> exutux: Your suggestion woul dhave worked to but it would also kill the xsession. That means no IRC anymore.
[23:04] <[PHAMTOM]> AGM6620x
[23:04] <m1chael> actionparsnip: yes, but my ip changes all the time at home.. so i need to update my public name server + public sub domain to my local at home IP
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: why do you need a subdomain for remote access?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: have you reduced the scroll speed in mouse settngs?
[23:05] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: it is detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:05] <m1chael> because the ip is ever changing, how will i ever know what it's ip is?
[23:05] <DanS> W4ps: Okay.. so can i just copy that xorg.conf to /etc/x11 and use that?
[23:05] <rypervenche> m1chael: You need ddclient.
[23:05] <exutux> W4sp: yeah right
[23:05] <rypervenche> m1chael: You can either have it set up on your router, if it supports it, or on your computer itself.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: you won't.If you use dydns then you will use the name you have. The IP gets updated reglarly so when it changes, the internet knows
[23:06] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: I dont have scroll options in mouse and touchpad settings
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: there is no sub domain here are all, what you are doing is nothing to do with domains
[23:06] <m1chael> i'd like a sub domain.mydomain.com resolve to my local home ip address
[23:06] <trailbar> hi, i have installed dhcp3-server - how do i find out what service i need to run to start this?
[23:07] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: just Pointer Speed
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: yes, that is the thing you register with dydns, you then use that instead of your IP
[23:07] <W4sp> DanS: So, you have won. Now check with what someone has suggested to put into your conf file, diff it with the file created and modify it. Then cp it to /etc/X11/. chmod/chown it as root.root with 0644.
[23:07] <trailbar> i can't see an init.d script that would relate to the dhcp
[23:07] <rypervenche> m1chael: You'll need a service like no-ip.org and a client like ddclient.
[23:07] <m1chael> but what if i want to use my own domain?
[23:08] <m1chael> i have access to a name server with an API
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: is it just fast in firefox, or all apps?
[23:08] <bz> m1chael: linode?
[23:08] <Debolaz> m1chael: You can purchase a service for that from DynDNS.
[23:08] <rypervenche> m1chael: Same thing.
[23:08] <m1chael> Softlayer
[23:08] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: no
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: the name is the domain, you just port forward through your router to the system hosting the service
[23:08] <DanS> Thanks.. I'll try that!
[23:08] <m1chael> okay
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: i use no-ip for the same thing and access my 2 servers from outside my LAN.
[23:11] <W4sp> DanS: brb
[23:14] <exutux> trailbar: it's called isc-dhcp-server
[23:15] <urist_> how complicated is it to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu without messing with my /home partition
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> urist_: simple, just select you want to do 'something else' select the /home partition as ext4 but NOT formatted and mount as /home then mark the current system partition as Ext and formatted and mounted as / and leave the swap partition as is
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> urist_: its wordy to explain but once you do it, its dead easy
[23:17] <trailbar> exutux: cheers
[23:17] <exutux> if just has a separate /home urist_
[23:17] <urist_> ActionParsnip, thanks I will give it a try
[23:17] <exutux> trailbar: np
[23:18] <trailbar> ok, i am using the netboot file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz and successfully getting my laptop to boot to the menu, but when i press 'install' it just freezes - i want to install from internet, is this the right netboot to use?
[23:18] <trailbar> (and if not, what is the correct netboot file to use?)
[23:18] <exutux> trailbar: but configuration files are in /etc/dhcp/...
[23:18] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: I dont see any event when I scroll up or down with xev
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: are there any bugs reported?
[23:19] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: I dont know
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> [PHAMTOM]: worth checking
[23:20] <[PHAMTOM]> ActionParsnip: ermm ok
[23:20] <VlanX> sorry guys, but how is it possible that i can never report the correct quantity of used RAM that i have?
[23:21] <exutux> VlanX: paste the output of free -m
[23:21] <Sagenth>  Anybody know how to fix a problem waking up after sleeping for a few hours. My keyboard is frozen, and my screen is black, nor does the power button initiate a shutdown.
[23:21] <bekks> VlanX: The only possibility is, that you do not know about the existence of the "free -m" command.
[23:21] <trailbar> can someone explain how this is netboot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[23:22] <W4sp> DanS: How's it going?
[23:22] <DanS> W4ps: Not sure yet.  About to try it.
[23:22] <VlanX> bekks: how bout that?  Mem:         15959      15769        189
[23:23] <exutux> VlanX: use pastebin
[23:23] <exutux> and paste all
[23:23] <bekks> VlanX: The complete output in a pastebin is important.
[23:23] <exutux> !paste | VlanX
[23:23] <VlanX> http://pastebin.com/d5A9FLii
[23:24] <VlanX> of course i'm not using 15 GB of ram right now
[23:24] <exutux> VlanX: well you're usin 1223MB now
[23:24] <exutux> 15GB?
[23:24] <OerHeks> i see biff_ joining and leaving every 2 minutes for more than one hour.
[23:24] <bekks> VlanX: You are - technically. RAM not used by applications will be used for caching, which is good, very goog.
[23:24] <exutux> VlanX: you have to read right...
[23:24] <Artemis3> VlanX, there you go, you are using about 15g, but 14 is cached and will be given back to programs if needed.
[23:24] <bekks> *good
[23:25] <exutux> VlanX: buffer/cache is right row
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: you are using 1Gb
[23:25] <Artemis3> VlanX, so you are using like 1g or ram only :)
[23:25] <VlanX> how is it possible that i'm just using little over 1GB when i've launched 2 VMs that should take 1GB each?
[23:25] <VlanX> if i sum the quantity of ram used by the processes i end up with a greater value
[23:25] <GlennBecksMother> how do i get size of file?
[23:26] <bekks> VlanX: Assigned memory does not equal used memory in terms of virtualization.
[23:26] <exutux> VlanX: you have to learn out how linux uses ram
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: 15959 - 14735 = 1223 used RAM
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !linuxatemyram
[23:26] <VlanX> ok, but i told vmware to preallocate the RAM
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram
[23:26] <Sagenth> Can anyone help fix a problem waking up after sleeping for a few hours. My keyboard is frozen, and my screen is black, nor does the power button initiate a shutdown.
[23:26] <VlanX> so it should cont as used and not available by the actual HW
[23:26] <VlanX> am i wrong?
[23:27] <maheanuu> Think I gave myself a heck of a prob.....   I was doing cut and copy on a bunch of files on an external drive and cannot find them or the directory with all of the files I had moved.  It was on an external drive and they are not in trash but not showing the directory was *.ebooks*
[23:27] <bekks> VlanX: You are wrong.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: you are using RAM as cache, itwill be freed if apps are launched
[23:27] <GlennBecksMother> isnt -prof available by default?
[23:27] <exutux> whats -prof??
[23:27] <Artemis3> VlanX, programs can share memory, or perhaps your vms are nicely efficient if they both themselves are using 512m each and have the rest free not claimed from the host os?
[23:29] <VlanX> Artemis3: probably, but apparently i can't get the used ram to increase even if i open like twenty tabs of youtube inside each VMs
[23:29] <VlanX> so i tought that was weird
[23:29] <DanS> W4ps: Can you explain the chmod bit?  Changing it to 0664 comes up invalid mode.  I thought that was just three numbers for permissions?
[23:29] <Artemis3> VlanX, just check how much free memory your VMs have right now :)
[23:30] <VlanX> so even if i can see that a process is using 1GB of ram, it doesnt mean that it's actually using that much, right?
[23:30] <agentgasmask> GlennBecksMother: to see the size of a file: du -sch
[23:31] <agentgasmask> GlennBecksMother: du -sch <file>
[23:31] <Artemis3> VlanX, there is a chance common things in memory are shared among the very same program, in this case VMs.
[23:31] <DanS> Oh.. nevermind i'm being stupid.
[23:32] <W4sp> DanS: If it doesnt use chmod 644 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:32] <trailbar> hi, is there an existing kickstart service on the internet i can point my netboot to?
[23:32] <trailbar> to install ubuntu?
[23:32] <W4sp> DanS: You need sudo preceeding the commands I gave you.
[23:32] <DanS> Yeah, i was doing it the other way around.  Just Me being silly.
[23:32] <GlennBecksMother> isnt -prof available by default?
[23:32] <GlennBecksMother> how do i get size of file?
[23:33] <exutux> GlennBecksMother: agentgasmask said you that
[23:33] <DanS> okay.. so with the conf in place.. should i just need to restart for it to take effect?
[23:33]  * exutux thinking what -prof means
[23:35] <agentgasmask> GlennBecksMother: On the command line, you can use the du command to see how big a file is.
[23:35] <W4sp> DanS: That's the easiest way. One more thing... If the xorg.conf has flaws X may not come up. If that happens press the SHIFT key during start up and get to the shell. rename the xorg.conf.
[23:36] <agentgasmask> GlennBecksMother: What do you mean by -prof? Are they arguments to a command? like -p -r -o -f? or --prof?
[23:36] <trailbar> wher ecan i vie wthe ubuntu images online?
[23:37] <agentgasmask> trailbar: vie?
[23:37] <trailbar> agentgasmask: say again?
[23:37] <trailbar> agentgasmask: oh, 'view'
[23:38] <Gabrielmx_x> Anyone knows how connect to ICQ chat in IRC client?
[23:38] <bz> :<
[23:38] <agentgasmask> trailbar: ok, what do you mean view? by image do you mean an iso file of the os? or images of ubuntu logo? or... ?
[23:39] <trailbar> agentgasmask: i want to view the contents of the iso install cds so i can point my netboot kickstart install to them
[23:39] <OerHeks> Gabrielmx_x, /join #icq ( if that channel exist ofcourse)
[23:39] <bz> gc :<
[23:39] <GlennBecksMother> and the output of du is in kb?
[23:39] <trailbar> agentgasmask: at least i'm hoping to, i just want a way to access the contents of the install cds from http so i can use via kickstart (dunno if this is correct or not)
[23:39] <agentgasmask> trailbar: ok, I see. Sorry, I don't know about that.
[23:40] <Gabrielmx_x> Thanks. But no. I mean. How connect to ICQ server to use ICQ chat. ICQ chat is in IRC, bust i can connect using IRC. Not information at wob.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Gabrielmx_x: you can use pidgin to connect to ICQ
[23:41] <agentgasmask> GlennBecksMother: du -sch <file> is easier, but yes, it's in KB.
[23:41] <fnoyanisi> hi, how can i check if the kernel has tickless feature enabled? it is 3.2.0-29
[23:41] <fnoyanisi> with 12.04
[23:41] <Gabrielmx_x> No, no, No to ICQ client to talk with frieds. To ICQ Chat. is a IRC chat like this.
[23:41] <DanS> W4sp: Everything came up alright. But the thing I was trying didn't seem to work.
[23:42] <Elchzard> :}
[23:42] <DanS> So i'm not really even sure if it's using that xorg.conf.
[23:42] <W4sp> DanS: What has been suggested to you?
[23:42] <DrManhattan> I need to make a graphic that gives me a 40hz strobe effect. Where would I go to ask about this
[23:42] <OerHeks> !icq
[23:42] <OerHeks> GabrieleV, ActionParsnip is right.
[23:43] <DanS> I'm trying to get a touch screen monitor connected.
[23:43] <W4sp> DanS: OK, shouldn't be a problem. Where did you get the information from?
[23:44] <Gabrielmx_x> Yes. Thanks. I knov that. But you are talking a instant messenger ICQ server. I tal about a IRC CHAT. Is not the same. In IM i have my friends. But in ICH IRC Chat is ohter people.
[23:44] <DanS> It connects via serial > usb port.  I was trying this after attempts in a different way failed: http://conan.de/touchscreen/evtouch.html
[23:44] <W4sp> DanS: evtouch...? Itns't that outdated?
[23:45] <OerHeks> DanS, i would try utouch, or seek help in #ubuntu-touch
[23:45] <DanS> Very possibly! It's more just what I tried earlier didn't work so I thought I'd try a different technique.
[23:46] <DanS> Okay thanks, I'll look that up, and join that channel.  Didn't even think there'd be a specific channel for it.
[23:46] <W4sp> DanS: Forget evtouch. That's not going to do for you.
[23:46] <DanS> Alright.  The monitor here is as old as the hills though.
[23:47] <VlanX> Artemis3: sorry, i'm still not convinced; i've opened like 15 tabs under firefox on a VM, then i made a free -m before and after closing em all and that's the result:  http://pastebin.com/b2p7VeWD
[23:47] <W4sp> DanS: That doesn't matter because your OS is new. I suggest you circumvent evtouch as far as possible.
[23:47] <wtf-honey> hello
[23:48] <BooG> hello
[23:48] <j4gu4r> #ubuntu-es
[23:48] <wtf-honey> so whats up?
[23:48] <DanS> I shall do just that then.  I'll remove anything I've changed so far then. to keep it clean. Thanks the advice.
[23:49] <BooG> I installed the latest ubuntu then installed the flash plug in from the program manager but youtube videos still dont load what am i doing wrong?
[23:49] <exutux> VlanX: BTW you don't need sudo, for free command ...use well sudo
[23:49] <W4sp> DanS: Very welcome. You 'original' settings are in your home directory, just in case.
[23:49] <exutux> VlanX: so in your VM machines you will use vm ram inside VM
[23:50] <VlanX> yeah you're right :)
[23:50] <VlanX> exutux: ok, but that would imply that the ram is pre-allocated
[23:50] <exutux> ram on your host is just dedicated for each VM
[23:50] <VlanX> and i don't see that happening
[23:51] <VlanX> if that were the case, i should see 1 GB of ram being occupied straight away when i power up a VM since i've set the VM guest to use up to 1GB
[23:52] <exutux> VlanX: so how much ram do you think uses 15 tab in firefox?? I think that you cannot see it with precision and it's just cached
[23:52] <BooG> could some one please help me to get youtube to work?
[23:52] <VlanX> exutux: i've done the same thing on the real HW and the increment was 300megs
[23:53] <maheanuu> What do I need to do to fine missing files on an external drive?
[23:53] <maheanuu> find
[23:53] <maheanuu> Or Find and Recover them?
[23:53] <exutux> maheanuu: foremost
[23:54] <exutux> VlanX: sorry but I cannot find a real issue in there
[23:54] <maheanuu> Ok, will go to the howto to learn how to run foremost
[23:55] <BooG> i have followed ubuntu instructions for flash install but youtube vids dont load?
[23:55] <SRyJohn> question- just tried linux (ubuntu) for the first time. works perfectly in a VM, no complaints. is there anything i'm missing out on by not having it installed to disk?
[23:56] <VlanX> exutux: yeah it's just a cosmetic issue since everything works just fine.. i can see correct ram usage inside each VM but the global memory consumption on the host machine just doesn't change no matter how many VMs i power up and what i do inside them
[23:56] <VlanX> who knows...
[23:56] <exutux> maheanuu: testdisk too, but foremost is better IMHO
[23:58] <BooG> damn you youtube
[23:58] <goth> hi
[23:58] <goth> how do I enable hw acceleration for flash?
[23:58] <goth> somehow my flash is extremely buggy
[23:58] <BooG> goth can u watch youtube vids?
[23:58] <goth> iirc I changed those settings a long time ago to fix an issue with colors
[23:58] <maheanuu> exutux, I am reading the how to on it now, and can I make the recovery in a clean external disk rather on my little system drive in the notebook I am on?
[23:58] <goth> but flash is extremely buggy now
[23:59] <goth> it regularly forces me to reboot the computer
[23:59] <goth> is there no replacement for flash?
[23:59] <BooG> flash installed for me but it wont even load youtube
[23:59] <goth> in any case: how do I enable hw acceleration?
[23:59] <goth> it loads all just fine
[23:59] <BooG> im trying to find that out also
[23:59] <exutux> maheanuu: yeah but you need more space
[23:59] <goth> you have a different issue
[23:59] <BooG> mine does not fin load ahh
[23:59] <maheanuu> what distro are you running