| cr1st0 | what partition xubuntu(linux) have and what are they for? | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| drc | http://askubuntu.com/questions/75754/deciding-partitions-and-sizes-on-ubuntu-11-10-dual-boot-windows-7 | 00:24 |
| cr1st0 | ty | 00:26 |
| drc | np | 00:26 |
| martinphone | i have 2GB RAM and sometimes my laptop freezes: on a most apps used simultaneously scenario I may have: transmission, firefox, kega fusion, google earth and a wine app | 01:14 |
| martinphone | would 8GB RAM be enough or should I aim to 16? | 01:15 |
| martinphone | add FGFS to that | 01:15 |
| cr1st0 | i think one gb ram would be enough | 01:15 |
| martinphone | then what could be wrong with my machine? it freezes for some seconds after I close kegafusion | 01:16 |
| Unit193 | Swapping out could be the reason, I have that with FF on some pages/large amount of tabs. | 01:17 |
| martinphone | i do too have large ammounts of open tabs, would buying more GB RAM add more swap? | 01:18 |
| martinphone | or, do I have to buy swap separately? | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | Swap is "fake" ram on disk. | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | !swap | 01:18 |
| ubottu | swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | More ram *should* help. | 01:18 |
| martinphone | but swap memory depends on the ammount of RAM you have... | 01:18 |
| Maccer | Are you using a 64-bit kernel or 32-bit? | 01:19 |
| martinphone | !ubuntu | 01:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com | 01:19 |
| martinphone | 64 | 01:19 |
| Maccer | Well, for 64-bit, 1 GB is a little low. Managable, but a little low. With xchat, skype, xmms (music player), a few virtual terminals, I'm using 800MB. | 01:20 |
| martinphone | Maccer, i have 2GB, for less than 50 euros I can upgrade to 8GB | 01:20 |
| Maccer | Firefox and its flash plugin might be hogging up a lot of memory. | 01:21 |
| martinphone | is it worth it? | 01:21 |
| martinphone | also, I sometimes play commodore games | 01:21 |
| Maccer | Hrm. Did you check how much memory you even use anyways? Using task manager or htop? | 01:21 |
| Maccer | I mean, how much memory you're using. | 01:21 |
| martinphone | ram? around 46% last time I checked | 01:21 |
| martinphone | cpu 15% ram 71% | 01:22 |
| Maccer | Keep it open. It will daemonize, and you can just put your cursor over the icon, and it will tell you how much your computer ate. | 01:22 |
| martinphone | memory 71%, not ram (if its not the same) | 01:22 |
| Maccer | Well, when it starts freezing, take a look at it. When it starts using SWAP then you could have slow downs because it's reading and writing to your hard-drive | 01:23 |
| martinphone | but if my machine freezes every time I open google earth, it means I need more ram, dont I? | 01:23 |
| Maccer | How would I know? Again, check how much memory it uses | 01:23 |
| Maccer | You could also use the 32-bit version which could half your memory usage at a very, very small cost of performance. | 01:24 |
| Maccer | (Roughly half) | 01:24 |
| martinphone | ic | 01:25 |
| martinphone | oh, and every time I play a movie bigger than 700MB and I move the mouse after the first half hour, it freezes too, thats very annoying | 01:27 |
| Maccer | What's your processor model? | 01:28 |
| martinphone | intel centrino 2, does that answer the question? | 01:28 |
| Maccer | Depending on the encoding, your processor could be straining itself. Check the CPU usage. And if it's a big file that requires a lot of streaming, it could be taking a hit on disk performance. | 01:28 |
| martinphone | mkv | 01:29 |
| Maccer | Er, roughly. Dual core? I think it should handle it, but then again... oh. MKV is quite hefty. | 01:29 |
| Maccer | Any specific video codec? | 01:29 |
| martinphone | noob here doesnt understand the question | 01:30 |
| drc | martinphone: I'd install htop (I feel it's better than Task Manager)...open it (it's a terminal app), watch the Mem/Swap and processor data as you open/use/close apps. | 01:30 |
| cr1st0 | i installed xubuntu dual boot with windows it completed the install rebooted and doesnt do nothing now | 01:30 |
| cr1st0 | the grub menu don't appear | 01:30 |
| Maccer | Does it boot into windows? Do you remember roughly what install option you chose, cr1st0? | 01:31 |
| drc | martinphone: And if you have 1gig EAM, 64 bit and using all thos apps, I'm not surprised things are slow | 01:32 |
| Maccer | He says he has 2. | 01:32 |
| drc | ah | 01:32 |
| Maccer | martinphone: Point is, find some tools that will measure your computer performance (disk i/o, cpu, ram) when you start getting performance issues. | 01:32 |
| drc | Like I said, htop work great for me | 01:32 |
| Maccer | I rarely hit 2GB until I open up firefox on my system. | 01:33 |
| cr1st0 | i chosed the 50/50 install it asks lunch startup repair or start windows normaly | 01:33 |
| cr1st0 | start windows normaly reboots | 01:33 |
| martinphone | drc, is it enough with writting htop? | 01:33 |
| martinphone | in the terminal, once installed | 01:34 |
| drc | martinphone: I don't understand the question | 01:34 |
| martinphone | drc, installed it, found its webpage, didnt find instructions regarding how to use it | 01:35 |
| Maccer | Just type in 'htop' | 01:35 |
| Maccer | It also creates an entry in the application menu | 01:35 |
| drc | martinphone: open term, type htop | 01:35 |
| Maccer | cr1st0: I'm not sure what the 50/50 install is. But are you saying grub doesn't appear and it boots to windows instead? I'm not sure I understand. | 01:35 |
| martinphone | moran me didnt see it | 01:36 |
| cr1st0 | appears the windows error recovery | 01:37 |
| Maccer | cr1st0: Does it allow you to boot into windows? | 01:38 |
| cr1st0 | no it reboot and appear wondows error recovery again | 01:38 |
| cr1st0 | should i make the recovery ? | 01:38 |
| Maccer | You could attempt. I have to go soon now, maybe you could ask on #ubuntu. They could help too. | 01:40 |
| cr1st0 | ok | 01:40 |
| Maccer | I'll be back in about an hour. Always here PST. | 01:40 |
| Maccer | So have you guys heard of the custom actions menu in Thunar? | 04:01 |
| Earthwolf | hello guys I have a question. When using the xubuntu x64 live dvd, my monitor and all display modes work, however once installed it will not pick up my monitor | 04:52 |
| Earthwolf | what is the issue? | 04:52 |
| TrollingForSoup | Hm... | 04:52 |
| Earthwolf | runnin 12.04 lts | 04:52 |
| TrollingForSoup | I've never heard of issues with detecting displays in Ubuntu... | 04:53 |
| TrollingForSoup | At least, not with single displays. | 04:53 |
| Earthwolf | maybe this will help. I'm running an old Radeon 2400 pro. If I install drivers my screen will not pick up the resolution for some reason. I think it defaults to HDMI but since its an old CRT monitor I cannot get it to work proplerly | 04:54 |
| TrollingForSoup | Do the default drivers work? | 04:55 |
| TrollingForSoup | Or do you need the specific ones? | 04:55 |
| Earthwolf | IDK when I install the Xorg or restricted drivers it does the same thing. Well as current I have no 3d accel because i do not have drivers installed at all | 04:56 |
| clear` | Hey guys, I recently replaced my laptop battery, now the battery light is blinking when ubuntu starts up. When I view the battery settings, it shows the % charge but does not show Vendor, Energy full design, energy full, voltage or serial | 04:59 |
| Earthwolf | like If I install drivers the video card will work on the loading screen after reboot, but when I get to the login screen all goes black and Monitor says no signal | 04:59 |
| TrollingForSoup | Weird... | 05:01 |
| Earthwolf | I'll try to install again, set settings before reboot if possible | 05:01 |
| xubuntu115 | I'm installing xubuntu on a usb stick. My machine does have a sdd. At next boot it will recognize the usb correctly or will mess with the machine internal disk? | 08:52 |
| xubuntu115 | sorry -- "At boot, the USB stick's xubuntu will recognize the usb" | 08:52 |
| TheSheep | xubuntu115: sdd? | 08:53 |
| xubuntu115 | ssd* | 08:54 |
| TheSheep | xubuntu115: as long as you don't tell it to install on it, the livecd (or live usb, in this case) will leave all other media alone | 08:54 |
| xubuntu115 | It is not a live usb, I think -- I'm using the install wizard that pops up when booting off a live cd | 08:55 |
| TheSheep | that may not boot | 08:56 |
| xubuntu115 | really? duh | 08:58 |
| TheSheep | also, it will try to install GRUB, and will ask you where it should install it -- then one of the options might be your ssd, so it's one moment where it may write something to it | 08:58 |
| TheSheep | of course it will ask | 08:59 |
| blagovest1 | hi | 09:02 |
| blagovest1 | can you pls tell me | 09:02 |
| blagovest1 | how to | 09:02 |
| blagovest1 | install bulgarian and chinese keyboard layouts | 09:02 |
| blagovest1 | in xubuntu? | 09:02 |
| xubuntu115 | okay, thank you | 09:09 |
| xubuntu168 | hi | 09:27 |
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| cr1st0 | what is the best xubuntu app to put xubuntu in one pen drive? | 15:02 |
| holstein | cr1st0: you want xubuntu installed on a USB stick?.. you can do "persistent live" installs... you can just put a live instance over on the USB with unetbootin or any of the ubuntu specific tools | 15:04 |
| holstein | if i want live persistence, i just install to the USB stick | 15:04 |
| holstein | to presicely answer your question, "best" depends on what you want exactly | 15:05 |
| cr1st0 | i wanna put xubuntu in one pen to install booting from the pen | 15:06 |
| holstein | cr1st0: there are other tools, but unetbootin always works for me | 15:06 |
| Kingsy | anyone having problems with apt-get? it just says "waiting for headers" when I try to do sudo apt-get update | 15:09 |
| holstein | Kingsy: this is what i was thinking http://askubuntu.com/questions/156650/apt-get-update-very-slow-stuck-at-waiting-for-headers | 15:12 |
| Kingsy | that fixed it.. looks like I had the wrong server for my repos | 15:15 |
| Kingsy | holstein: thanks | 15:47 |
| xubuntu807 | whats the difference between the regular and alternate installer? | 18:19 |
| xubuntu807 | alternate is text only | 18:20 |
| TrollingForSoup | And so a smaller ISO. | 18:20 |
| xubuntu807 | by only 4 megs :) | 18:22 |
| xubuntu807 | and thats what was confusing | 18:23 |
| drc | xubuntu807: Here's what ubuntu has to say: "The text-based installer is for computers that can’t run the graphical interface-based installer, either because they don’t meet the minimum requirements for the live CD or because they require extra configuration before the graphical desktop can be used." | 18:25 |
| Sysi | I trust alt installer more than GUI one | 18:26 |
| drc | ncurse you Sysi :) | 18:28 |
| Myrtti | alt allow disk encryption at installation | 18:29 |
| Sysi | and creation on raid arrays and use of LVM and uses less RAM | 18:30 |
| Joshun | hi | 19:01 |
| Joshun | where has the bulk rename gone in thunar? | 19:01 |
| drc | Joshun: right mouse click, <RENAME> | 19:02 |
| Joshun | oooh | 19:02 |
| drc | Also under Edit | 19:02 |
| Joshun | so it isn't a separate app any more then | 19:02 |
| Joshun | thanks | 19:02 |
| drc | nope | 19:03 |
| drc | We ate all the Catfish I guess :) | 19:04 |
| xubuntu128 | hi ! | 19:05 |
| xubuntu128 | I may have a problem using Xubuntu... | 19:07 |
| Joshun | xubuntu128 - what exactly? don't ask to ask, just ask | 19:08 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:08 |
| xubuntu128 | After USB installation I found out that the boot partition was located on sdb1 (the key), and can't move it =/ | 19:09 |
| xubuntu128 | if you have any leads, thanks =) | 19:10 |
| Joshun | is it a uefi install? | 19:10 |
| Joshun | sometimes they require separate /boot partitions | 19:10 |
| xubuntu128 | yes -used unetbootin (or at least I think so) | 19:10 |
| Joshun | although you probably just selected the wrong device on installation | 19:10 |
| Joshun | if you load up a livecd | 19:11 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:11 |
| Joshun | and run: | 19:11 |
| Joshun | sudo grub-install /dev/sdX | 19:11 |
| xubuntu128 | Saw it on "more options | 19:11 |
| Joshun | X is probably an a | 19:11 |
| Joshun | assuming it is your primary hard disk | 19:11 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:11 |
| xubuntu128 | I need to create a small partition for sda1 to boot, right ? | 19:12 |
| Joshun | you don't have to use uefi mode for booting, you can still use a traditional mbr I think | 19:12 |
| Joshun | though I don't have the hardware to actually test this | 19:13 |
| Joshun | is grub-efi installed? | 19:13 |
| David-A | xubuntu128: when working with sda, sdb, sdc, etc, check that the device is what you think it is, it may change over boots when devices are installed/removed | 19:13 |
| xubuntu128 | no | 19:13 |
| xubuntu128 | (yes, sdb1 was the USB key) | 19:13 |
| Joshun | do you know how to chroot? | 19:14 |
| xubuntu128 | I'm a rookie, sorry =/ | 19:14 |
| Joshun | are you on the livecd now? | 19:14 |
| xubuntu128 | yes | 19:14 |
| Joshun | ok | 19:14 |
| xubuntu128 | running installation 2nd time | 19:15 |
| Joshun | open the file manager | 19:15 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:15 |
| Joshun | and navigate to your installed linux partition | 19:15 |
| Joshun | it will probably say 'xxxGB filesystem' | 19:15 |
| Joshun | at the side | 19:15 |
| xubuntu128 | I see it | 19:15 |
| Joshun | now if you press Control-L | 19:16 |
| Joshun | it should pop up with the full path to the mounted HD | 19:16 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:16 |
| Joshun | if you copy that | 19:16 |
| xubuntu128 | actually asking for a path | 19:16 |
| Joshun | does it display the path? | 19:16 |
| xubuntu128 | "/home/xubuntu" ? | 19:17 |
| Joshun | must have selected the wrong location | 19:17 |
| xubuntu128 | ok | 19:17 |
| Joshun | at the sidebar, what do you see? | 19:17 |
| xubuntu128 | file system | 19:17 |
| xubuntu128 | path "/" | 19:17 |
| Joshun | are there any other entries there? | 19:17 |
| xubuntu128 | oh, bin, root.. | 19:18 |
| Joshun | in the sidebar that is | 19:18 |
| xubuntu128 | file system (7... gb) | 19:18 |
| xubuntu128 | network | 19:18 |
| Joshun | ok | 19:18 |
| xubuntu128 | trashbin | 19:18 |
| Joshun | if you click filesystem (7...gb) | 19:18 |
| xubuntu128 | that's the key | 19:18 |
| Joshun | what about your hard disk? | 19:19 |
| Joshun | does it not show up | 19:19 |
| xubuntu128 | yes, but indicates path "/" | 19:19 |
| xubuntu128 | oh wait | 19:20 |
| xubuntu128 | don't waste your time, I'll try with a CD | 19:20 |
| Joshun | drc - btw, do you know how to do this for a lot of files? it seems to crash thunar | 19:20 |
| Joshun | ^bulk renaming that is | 19:20 |
| xubuntu128 | I don't want to disturb, a disk will be easiest I'm sure =) | 19:21 |
| xubuntu128 | thanks a lot though | 19:21 |
| xubuntu128 | have a good day ! | 19:21 |
| Joshun | would reinstalling be an option for you? | 19:21 |
| Joshun | since you have only just done it anyway | 19:22 |
| xubuntu128 | yes, actually the disk is empty | 19:22 |
| xubuntu128 | not a problem =) | 19:22 |
| Joshun | it should hopefully just work | 19:22 |
| Joshun | I think uefi is autodetected | 19:22 |
| xubuntu128 | liveCD are sometimes the best option =) | 19:22 |
| Joshun | I would test this, just don't have the hardware at the moment (even my fairly new netbook still has a normal BIOS) | 19:23 |
| xubuntu128 | I have tried with Ubuntu 12.04, worked just fine | 19:23 |
| Joshun | you probably just selected sdb instead of sda or something like that | 19:24 |
| xubuntu128 | maybe there's a CD-RW remaining somewhere | 19:24 |
| xubuntu128 | thanks again, and goodbye ! =) | 19:24 |
| Joshun | if in doubt, you can always run commands like sudo fdisk -l or parted -l to show the disks before the install | 19:24 |
| Joshun | hope it works :) | 19:24 |
| xubuntu128 | yep | 19:24 |
| David-A | xubuntu128: you will be back if problems, will you be back if success? :) | 19:24 |
| xubuntu128 | I can come back if I succeed =) | 19:25 |
| xubuntu128 | see you ! | 19:25 |
| xubuntu573 | hi ! this is "xubuntu138", back again ! | 20:11 |
| xubuntu573 | successfully installed Xubuntu =) | 20:12 |
| aquix | congrtatulations :) | 20:12 |
| xubuntu573 | imgburn is a very useful software to make a liveD | 20:12 |
| xubuntu573 | CD* | 20:12 |
| xubuntu573 | now, I'll try to install it to a LOT of people | 20:13 |
| xubuntu573 | using it on this computer, installed it on several friends computer | 20:14 |
| xubuntu573 | Xubuntu - also all linux distribs - deserves to expand =) | 20:14 |
| xubuntu573 | well, I leave you | 20:15 |
| xubuntu573 | goodbye ! | 20:15 |
| p01nt3r | good evening. got a problem with firefox/xubuntu/10.04. swf-buttons and videos are not shown in firefox. how can i fix that? | 22:12 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: couple of questions: have it worked before on the same system? what graphics card? have you installed *restricted-extras or flashplugin-installer? what flashplayer version? | 22:15 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, flashplayer-version is newest from adobe-website. did never work on that system. card is a quadro nvs 400. | 22:17 |
| p01nt3r | could it be the problem, if i got the libflashplayer.so in too many folders? | 22:19 |
| p01nt3r | and - where does it have to be? | 22:19 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: it is installed in the right places by *restricted-extras or flashplugin-installer, no problem if there are copies in more places. | 22:20 |
| p01nt3r | hmm | 22:20 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: or did you download from adobe yourself and unpacked and copied yourself? | 22:21 |
| p01nt3r | ...because it is just read from one place i guess? | 22:21 |
| p01nt3r | yes i did | 22:21 |
| p01nt3r | because trying installation with flashplugin-installer failed. | 22:22 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: did you try install package xubuntu-restricted-extras first? (from software center or synaptic or apt-get) and it didnt work? | 22:22 |
| David-A | okej | 22:22 |
| p01nt3r | no i didnt, let's try | 22:22 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: xubuntu-restricted-extras will just install flashplugin-installer plus other stuff. | 22:23 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: but you can try again if problem was adobes site was busy | 22:24 |
| p01nt3r | i thought so, but tried before and didn't work too | 22:24 |
| p01nt3r | ...installing xubuntu-restricted-extras | 22:24 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: do you remember how flashplugin-installer failed? err message? | 22:24 |
| p01nt3r | no message, i just don't see buttons from type swf on websites | 22:27 |
| p01nt3r | restricted-extras didn't solve it. | 22:27 |
| p01nt3r | same error as before. could any blocker like abp be the cause of it? | 22:28 |
| p01nt3r | "about:plugins" in ff showes me: application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf | 22:29 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: if abp blocks flash from that site, yes, does flash run on some sites and not on some others? | 22:29 |
| p01nt3r | file: libflashplayer.so | 22:29 |
| p01nt3r | how can i try that? | 22:30 |
| p01nt3r | version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 | 22:30 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: that means flash IS installed and available for firefox | 22:30 |
| p01nt3r | so let's have more focus on that abp-thing? | 22:31 |
| p01nt3r | which site can i test? | 22:31 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: try youtube, but make sure it does not fall back to html5 but uses flash (and that you have not blocked youtube in abp) | 22:33 |
| p01nt3r | ok, moment... | 22:33 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: (I have the same version of flash, if that is any comfort) | 22:34 |
| p01nt3r | no videos in youtube :-( | 22:35 |
| p01nt3r | even if i disable abp at all | 22:35 |
| p01nt3r | or do i have to restart firefox after disabling abp? | 22:36 |
| David-A | while in youtube, can you rightclick the black area where video should be? do you then see a flash menu or a firefox menu? | 22:36 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: no need to restart ff for disabling abp | 22:37 |
| p01nt3r | no context-menu, no black area | 22:38 |
| p01nt3r | just grey like the rest of the page | 22:38 |
| p01nt3r | i only see the video preshow | 22:39 |
| p01nt3r | preview (hope that is better english... :-) ) | 22:40 |
| p01nt3r | maybe a version-conflict? | 22:40 |
| p01nt3r | there was a tool written by a ubuntu-forum guy. but he erased it from the site | 22:41 |
| p01nt3r | forgot the name of that tool | 22:41 |
| p01nt3r | maybe it helps for getting a clean system for reinstalling the player? | 22:42 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, trying to install flashplugin-installer once again? and look for some error messages? | 22:43 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: if you go to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ , do you see a bouncing red block for 2 seconds and "you have verson xxx installed", or just advertisement? | 22:44 |
| David-A | okej | 22:44 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: but it IS installed according to about:plugins | 22:44 |
| p01nt3r | the only error i got was when tried to install it from the adobe site, trying the ubuntu-deb thing, there was a message like ... wait pls | 22:45 |
| p01nt3r | no "version xxx installed" on that site | 22:47 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: no boucing red block either? | 22:47 |
| p01nt3r | no. | 22:48 |
| p01nt3r | the error i get on the adobe site when trying the ubuntu-deb-thing is: "unknown channel >>lucid-partner<< | 22:48 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: did you restart firefox after installing flash? (silly question, hope you dont mind) | 22:48 |
| p01nt3r | yes i did - and it's ok | 22:49 |
| p01nt3r | about:plugins tells me that it is installed, yes. | 22:49 |
| p01nt3r | found out something on the youtube page. | 22:51 |
| Xbert | p01nt3r, do you have apparmor enabled> | 22:51 |
| p01nt3r | if hover with the mouse over some video-previews, then i get that black area where the video should be, but it isn't. | 22:51 |
| p01nt3r | apparmor? where? | 22:52 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: i dont think the error from double click a .deb is related to this flash problem. (if you have similar errors when installing ordinary packages from software centre or synaptic or apt-get, you may want to look into that, but let that wait now) | 22:53 |
| p01nt3r | but you remember that my xubuntu is jaunty, right? | 22:53 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, got no errors on apt-get or synaptic otherwise. | 22:53 |
| p01nt3r | got another mashine running here with ubuntu oneiric, got flashplayer working. maybe we could get some help from it? | 22:55 |
| p01nt3r | mashine = machine | 22:55 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: 40 mins ago you said xubuntu 10.04 = lucid != jaunty | 22:55 |
| p01nt3r | oh damned i meant 10.04, not jaunty, sry! | 22:56 |
| David-A | okey | 22:56 |
| p01nt3r | so lucid i have, my fault. | 22:56 |
| David-A | all tests and comments still valid | 22:56 |
| p01nt3r | couldn't get any newer version because of limitations of x-server and that old nvs 400-card. | 22:57 |
| p01nt3r | :-) | 22:57 |
| p01nt3r | it was a 3 day-work on getting dualview work on that old machine lol | 22:57 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: you have proprietary driver enabled or not? (system>hardware drivers) | 22:58 |
| p01nt3r | nvidia-96 from repositories. | 22:58 |
| p01nt3r | it was shown in hardware-drivers, but had to put some more stuff into it to get it work (like installation of linux-headers-...) | 22:59 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: if you disable it, logout and login, and try youtube or adobe test page? | 22:59 |
| p01nt3r | wait | 22:59 |
| p01nt3r | with disable. you mean abp or flash? | 23:00 |
| p01nt3r | and - how do i disable flash? | 23:00 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: disable nvidia driver in stem>hardware drivers | 23:00 |
| David-A | *system> | 23:00 |
| p01nt3r | hmm | 23:00 |
| p01nt3r | sec. | 23:01 |
| p01nt3r | that takes a while on this p3-900 hell machine xD | 23:04 |
| David-A | bin ther | 23:05 |
| p01nt3r | no video without nvidia-driver on youtube | 23:08 |
| p01nt3r | exact the same behaviour as before. | 23:09 |
| p01nt3r | what's about adobe no longer supporting linux? could that have something to do with my issue? | 23:11 |
| p01nt3r | e.g. newest version of flash not compatible with 10.04 or something like that? | 23:12 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: no, I have same xubuntu ver and flash ver as you | 23:13 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: if you start firefox in a terminal, does it show error messages when it starts or when you visit pages with flash on? | 23:14 |
| p01nt3r | let me have a look... | 23:15 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, no error. | 23:17 |
| p01nt3r | what are the dependencies to get flash running in ff? | 23:19 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (when was it created? did you create it?) | 23:20 |
| p01nt3r | i created it. | 23:20 |
| p01nt3r | some days before. | 23:21 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: no dependencies I know of. package management usually resolves dependencies during install. | 23:21 |
| p01nt3r | shall i nopaste it? | 23:21 |
| David-A | "nopaste"? | 23:22 |
| p01nt3r | paste it ^^ | 23:22 |
| David-A | not in the chat directly | 23:22 |
| p01nt3r | that i mean with NOpaste xD | 23:23 |
| p01nt3r | brb | 23:23 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, http://pastebin.com/hGgFLLJw | 23:26 |
| p01nt3r | i just found out that i didnt use any yorg.conf file ^^ | 23:27 |
| p01nt3r | but i did and it was the same error | 23:28 |
| p01nt3r | but can try again if necessary | 23:28 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: didnt use? it was named/placed somewhere else? | 23:28 |
| p01nt3r | y, was named xorg.conf.twinview | 23:28 |
| p01nt3r | copied it back to xorg.conf but i just saw that the xorg.conf-file didnt exist itself any longer | 23:29 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: its "Driver" entry seems to override "disable" in system>hardwaredrivers | 23:30 |
| p01nt3r | shall i try to reenable the nvidia-driver with the right xorg.conf file? | 23:30 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: was there a reason you created xort.conf in the first place, a problem it solved? | 23:30 |
| David-A | *xorg | 23:30 |
| p01nt3r | not a real "problem", just for getting clone-mode work with the tv-out. | 23:31 |
| p01nt3r | i also tried nouveau driver but it just gives me a black/white screen to the tv. | 23:32 |
| p01nt3r | and with nvidia-96 driver it works better. | 23:33 |
| p01nt3r | (tv-scrren is coloured but has more tearing in it) | 23:33 |
| p01nt3r | scrren = screen | 23:33 |
| Artemis3 | what gpu is this? | 23:35 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: try with and without nvidia driver, both without xorg.conf, but from what you said, i think that is what you've tried already | 23:35 |
| p01nt3r | Artemis3, you ment me? | 23:36 |
| Artemis3 | yes | 23:37 |
| p01nt3r | 00:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] (rev a3) | 23:37 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, yes, so it is. | 23:38 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, all of flash player is in that flashplayer.so-file? | 23:40 |
| p01nt3r | did the location of that file change between 10.04 and 11.10? | 23:40 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: thinking about trying older versions of the flash player. can be downloaded from adobe, unzipped and untared in several levels, and copied to where the .so shall be. | 23:40 |
| p01nt3r | if not, i could try to put it just in the same loc. as on the working machine... | 23:41 |
| p01nt3r | David-A, but where does the .so file have to be in 10.04? | 23:41 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: what I know, only the libflashplayer.so file in the right place (one several places are okay) | 23:42 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: is the .so NOT in the same places in your 10.04 and 11.10 ? | 23:43 |
| p01nt3r | sure, but it is on many other places too in 10.04, but not so in 11.10, there it is just in one place and that works. | 23:44 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: (well maybe it may differ with major version changes of a web browser) | 23:44 |
| p01nt3r | couldnt ff show me where it wants that file to have? | 23:45 |
| p01nt3r | is there any command to do so? | 23:45 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: the flashplugin-installer will install it in the right places for your current version of xubuntu, and it is right because about:plugins sees it! | 23:45 |
| p01nt3r | but the problem is that i copied it to several other folders | 23:46 |
| p01nt3r | but there you are right - he finds it | 23:46 |
| p01nt3r | and so it should work | 23:46 |
| David-A | p01nt3r: thats for several other web browsers, firefox just looks in two or three places or so, and obviously it finds it | 23:47 |
| Artemis3 | i'd say delete them all and reinstall flashplugin, and stick to the nvidia driver supplied | 23:47 |
| p01nt3r | even it is only in any of that folders, i guess | 23:47 |
| Artemis3 | maybe try with 12.04, try a live usb to see if it works? | 23:48 |
| p01nt3r | let's try it | 23:48 |
| p01nt3r | no way | 23:48 |
| p01nt3r | this old system cannot boot from usb. 12.04 not working o.o.t.b with my grafixcard | 23:49 |
| p01nt3r | (x-server has too new version) | 23:49 |
| Artemis3 | hm is the 96.x series not bundled in 12.04? should be | 23:49 |
| Artemis3 | lemme check :) | 23:49 |
| p01nt3r | :-) | 23:49 |
| Artemis3 | yes its included | 23:50 |
| Artemis3 | you need to pick the right version from jockey, that should require a single reboot at most? | 23:50 |
| p01nt3r | it is, i tried it, but then Xorg.0.log tells me the x-server version is not cappable with nvs 400. i shall try an older version of x | 23:50 |
| Artemis3 | uh oh, i see... | 23:51 |
| p01nt3r | ... a light at this endless long, dark tunnel? xD | 23:51 |
| Artemis3 | well 10.04 should do then, but i'd stick to the bundled nvidia driver instead of nouveau, specially that old nouveau... | 23:52 |
| p01nt3r | i use the nvidia-96 alright | 23:52 |
| Artemis3 | there is a simple way to have an updated flashplugin, don't install the package | 23:53 |
| p01nt3r | ok... | 23:53 |
| Artemis3 | there is, a: an add-on for firefox to do it for you, or b: download from adobe and put it in a folder, quite simple actually. | 23:53 |
| p01nt3r | it could have nothing to do with tv-out, twinview or st like that? | 23:54 |
| p01nt3r | Artemis3, i know, but which folder it has to be? | 23:54 |
| Artemis3 | there is a system wide folder, and a user folder | 23:54 |
| Artemis3 | if you are the sole user, the user folder will do | 23:55 |
| p01nt3r | i am the only one | 23:55 |
| Artemis3 | then ~/.mozilla/plugin | 23:56 |
| Artemis3 | if it doesnt exists, just create it | 23:56 |
| p01nt3r | that folder doesnt exist! | 23:56 |
| Artemis3 | and put the .so file there, done | 23:56 |
| p01nt3r | only firefox and extensions thee | 23:57 |
| p01nt3r | there | 23:57 |
| Artemis3 | when you start firefox type about:plugins should be there | 23:57 |
| p01nt3r | it is | 23:57 |
| Artemis3 | search your syetem, delete any other file | 23:57 |
| p01nt3r | ok, wit | 23:57 |
| p01nt3r | wait | 23:57 |
| Artemis3 | search that file name (i forgot) flashsomething.so using locate | 23:59 |
| Artemis3 | delete all of them except the one you just downloaded and put in your user folder | 23:59 |
| David-A | Artemis3: (according to about:plugins p01nt3r already have a flashplugin and a reasonable version of it) | 23:59 |
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