[00:00] <propman> fwiw on my new install of 12.04 it's laucher rather than classic
[00:00] <BarkingFish> lemme switch over and I'll help you
[00:00] <BarkingFish> propman, that's what I'm saying - on my first Kubuntu install, 11.04, it was the classic
[00:00] <asgard20032> Because its faster to go in computer tab, than in application->setting
[00:01] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, right - right click the muon icon, and select uninstall
[00:01] <asgard20032> Well, the icon remain
[00:01] <asgard20032> Just not installed
[00:02] <asgard20032> Ok, uninstalled
[00:02] <asgard20032> no more icon
[00:02] <asgard20032> How to put the apper icon ?
[00:03] <BarkingFish> ok, go to the Computer tab
[00:04] <BarkingFish> and in the top search bar, type Apper
[00:06] <asgard20032> well, searching it dont add it to computer tab
[00:06] <BarkingFish> one moment. I told you I wasn't used to this menu :)
[00:07] <BarkingFish> I'll see if the guys in #kde can help me :)
[00:07] <asgard20032> But i didnt asked on kde yet
[00:09] <BarkingFish> yep, well let's see if #kde can help :)
[00:09] <gabi_> hola a todos
[00:10] <gabi_> alguien habla español
[00:10] <BarkingFish> hola gabi_ :)
[00:10] <BarkingFish> !es | gabi_
[00:11] <gabi_> hola k tal
[00:12] <gabi_> "join#ubuntu-es
[00:12] <gabi_> es la 1 vez
[00:14] <BarkingFish> gabi_, sin "  :)
[00:14] <BarkingFish> escriba  /join #ubuntu-es
[00:15] <asgard20032> BarkingFish: I already saw some screenshot that had classic menu, but didnt know that it was called classic menu, and how to get it
[00:16] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, it's the only menu style I've ever used in KDE - and I've been using KDE since pre 3.X :)
[00:16] <gabi_> me estoy liando
[01:21] <Sentynel> anybody know if there's a decent ppa with qt 4.8.2 in for precise, before I go building it myself?
[01:48] <sentinel699> hi everyone
[01:48] <sentinel699> spent last 5 hours trying to make my dell xps l502x laptop to work with kubuntu as far as wifi goes but no luck
[01:48] <sentinel699> wifi works fine in windows
[01:49] <sentinel699> checked compatibility chart and it have l502x listed as working
[01:49] <sentinel699> even when i add usb wifi dongle (ralink), it still doesn't work
[01:50] <sentinel699> if anyone have some ideas i would appreciate it
[02:05] <coldfire> just try this command  " rfkill unblock wifi"
[04:17] <zed_> hi
[04:17] <zed_> I have installed kubuntu 12.04 onto my lapop
[04:17] <zed_> laptop
[04:17] <zed_> thunderbird fails to open html links with firefox
[04:18] <zed_> and I've been trying to solve this issue for quite a while now
[04:18] <zed_> any time I click a link in thunderbird, nothing happens .. ?
[05:53] <uberdub> well bye kubuntu
[05:53] <uberdub> had enough of the buggy crap
[05:54] <uberdub> dont know why I didnt just run debian years ago
[05:55] <uberdub> buncha fundementalist christian BULLSHIT
[06:59] <user> please i need to upgrade install rekonq to 1.0
[06:59] <user> do you know how_
[07:07] <anqxyr> Hi. Can someone help me?
[07:08] <anqxyr> I am unable to login to kubuntu using the GUI logic screen - after I enter the password the screen goes black and then the login prompt reappears again
[07:08] <anqxyr> I was able to login using command line login and starting x server manually, but now there is no sound
[09:26] <ragerock> 0hai
[09:27] <ragerock> I messed my Kubuntu desktop
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, Hi
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, How?
[09:27] <Peace-> ragerock: nice
[09:27] <ragerock> No toolbars at all
[09:27] <ragerock> on the left is a permanent start menu
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, You mean your start menu?
[09:28] <ragerock> my start menu is permanently in the left of the screen rather than called with a button
[09:28] <ragerock> right of start are all minimized applications
[09:28] <DFrostedWang> You tried a restart yet?
[09:28] <ragerock> and right of that is the tray
[09:28] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: logout should be enough
[09:28] <Peace-> ragerock: screenshot please
[09:28] <DFrostedWang> yeah
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> Yeah, screenshot for us.
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> You can post on inky.ws
[09:29] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: there is a widget pastebin
[09:29] <ragerock> IDK how to do it in K
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> DFrostedWang, These is?
[09:29] <Peace-> ragerock: ALT PRINT
[09:29] <Peace-> ragerock: or ksnapshot
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> alt+prtscrn
[09:30] <Peace-> ragerock: or ALT F2  type ksnap wait press enter
[09:31] <ragerock> did alt+printscreen, what next?
[09:31] <Peace-> add the widget pastebin on the desktop
[09:31] <Peace-> and drag and drop the picture from ksnapshot into the widget
[09:33] <ragerock> saved fail.png
[09:34] <Peace-> you don0t even to save the picture
[09:34] <ragerock> where does ksn save by default?
[09:35] <ragerock> those widgets are all goo poo, I'd rather upload on my own
[09:35] <Peace-> ragerock: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/12/plasma-desktopYc2276.png
[09:35] <Peace-> ragerock: i said drag and drop into the widget
[09:35] <Peace-> from ksnapshot
[09:36] <DFrostedWang> How long should it take to compile Firefox from source?
[09:36] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: the life?
[09:36] <Peace-> depends from your cpu
[09:37] <DFrostedWang> Peace-, I have 2GHz processor (dual-core) and 2GB RAM and 2GB SWAP
[09:37] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: should not take so long
[09:37] <Peace-> but i have no idea about it could take
[09:37] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: btw you can alwasy download the latest firefox stuffer from the server already compiled
[09:38] <Peace-> who cares of firefox compiling ?
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> TBH, I am not compiling in Kubuntu, so this may be different. I just wanted a perspective.
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> I am running PCBSD and compiling in PortJail
[09:38] <Peace-> well this is not a chat to speak about bsd
[09:38] <Peace-> its called kubuntu
[09:38] <Peace-> infact :D
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> I know
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> Obviously
[09:39] <ragerock> now this paste widget is to bottom of my start menu
[09:39] <DFrostedWang> That's why I asked about Firefox :D
[09:39] <Peace-> ragerock: ok you are not so much fast on get the things i guess you can upload in some servers
[09:39] <Peace-> ragerock: google host image
[09:39] <Peace-> and put your picture there
[09:40] <ragerock> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/12/plasma-desktopqr7306.png
[09:40] <ragerock> done via drag-drop
[09:40] <Peace-> ragerock: good
[09:40] <ragerock> see what my desktop is? It's broken to hell
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: now , pidof plasma-netbook
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: type that on konsole
[09:41] <ragerock> well, this is a live session
[09:41] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, Looks funny lol
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: btw it's not broken
[09:42] <Peace-> ragerock: its seems or the netbook version
[09:42] <Peace-> or the another kind of activity
[09:42] <ragerock> it's Kubuntu "extended dvd" just booted into live
[09:42] <ragerock> and I somehow messed it
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: i guess you messed it
[09:43] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, You do realize that if it's Live, a reboot can fix that, right?
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: go in ~/.kde
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: rename that folder
[09:43] <Peace-> logout and login
[09:44] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: asd
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.backup"
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> Then backup
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> Then logout
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> I mean
[09:45] <ragerock> Just a lone pastebin in the middle. Guess I grasped it now.
[09:45] <ragerock> I should've pinned those pieces to a bar
[09:46] <ragerock> not into a newspaper
[09:49] <ragerock> Guess I'm too stupid for Kubuntu
[09:49] <ragerock> that layout was the worst one thinkable
[09:50] <DFrostedWang> That's good
[09:53] <ragerock> what's so laughable about a messed desktop like that?
[09:56] <ragerock> aww, this is too messy. Task manager on bottom, tray on top, start menu in the middle of the screen
[09:57] <DFrostedWang> WTF have you done to it now?
[10:11] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: trolling ?
[10:11] <DFrostedWang> Peace-, what makes you say that?
[10:11] <Peace-> i guess him is trolling
[11:47] <sashok> hello
[11:48] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning sashok
[11:52] <DFrostedWang> Managed to get Firefox compiled :D
[11:53] <sashok> есть кто с украины?
[11:53] <bazhang> !ru | sashok
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> ???? ??? ? ????????
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> Why can't I see any of that?
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> It just haz little square boxes
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> Usually I can see russian
[11:54] <bazhang> which client DFrostedWang
[11:54] <DFrostedWang> XChat
[11:54] <DFrostedWang> I just compiled it myself, tho. Maybe I left a flag off
[11:54] <bazhang> install the appropriate language packs then
[11:54] <skfin> I'm using irssi, UTF-8 as default with transliteration enabled and I can see it
[11:55] <skfin> DFrostedWang: Are you sure that your font has those letters?
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> IDK
[11:55] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, there is zero reason to compile xchat or firefox in Kubuntu
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> I am using PCBSD, running in PortJail.
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> But it should be the same
[11:56] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, and the connection to Kubuntu support is what?
[11:56] <DFrostedWang> Somebody here said something in Russian and I couldn't read it.
[11:57] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, this is Kubuntu support. try one of the chat channels for chit chat
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> I am in several chat channels.
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> I don't want chit chat
[11:57] <IdleOne> DFrostedWang: http://xchat.org/encoding/ set it to UTF-8
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> IdleOne, Thanx
[11:58] <IdleOne> DFrostedWang: also #xchat for xchat specific questions please
[12:04] <Walzmyn> I've got 2 monitors (AMD vid card). At boot up, it puts the log-in dialog on the wrong monitor. Where do I need to go to fix that, the driver or kdm?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[12:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning mydogsnameisrudy
[13:01] <alexzz> hi
[13:33] <phil__> evening
[14:49] <dougl> what do you suppose I need to do to correct this problem with my printing config? http://imagebin.org/224201
[16:10] <einseenai> hello, guys, is it possible to set different wallpapers for each desktop in KDE?
[16:10] <DFrostedWang> Yes.
[16:11] <DFrostedWang> Or at least, it should be.
[16:11] <DFrostedWang> It is in Gnome and Enlightenment and LXDE, etc.
[16:12] <einseenai> lol, never seen it in gnome.
[17:52] <fabrizio> what a nerd channel is this??
[18:16] <mishkin> Dear all, I would like to ask if there is anyway to add hard disk as RAM, I have a pretty old laptop and I would like to use virtualbox for some virtualization and I need just 256MB
[18:17] <shadeslayer> mishkin: swap
[18:17] <shadeslayer> !swap
[18:19] <shadeslayer> mishkin: on another note, KDE doesn't take alot of memory, I've run KDE on a 256 MB system where KDE took about a 100 megs
[18:19] <shadeslayer> ofcourse, I had to disable nepomuk and akonadi
[18:19] <mishkin> shadeslayer and ubottu thanks I will take a look but conceptually I don't get it at all, I mean does virtualbox realize that swap was increased and it looks like mor RAM?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> oh wait, you said virtualbox, I should read more carefully
[18:20] <Tm_T> mishkin: general warning: swap is used for non-active parts of data stored on RAM, in order to be able to use it, it has to be on RAM
[18:20] <Tm_T> ...and hard disk is waaaay slower than RAM, thus making even more painful to use swap
[18:20] <shadeslayer> ^
[18:20] <shadeslayer> unless you have a SSD
[18:20] <Tm_T> it's still waaay slower and makes things painful
[18:21] <Walzmyn> mishkin: why are you trying to run VB on an old laptop?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> sure, but swap on a SSD >>> swap on a HDD
[18:21] <mishkin> Tm_T: Yeah sure it does I mean I can imagine, just remembering long time ago I did something for fake RAM in order to use and Oracle eXi but I can not remember now
[18:21] <Walzmyn> swap on an SSD will kill the lifespan of an SSD
[18:21] <shadeslayer> true that
[18:23] <mishkin> Anyway I will take a look to swap docs .. shit I was googling arround and I can nor rembmer or find out the way I did few years ago
[18:24] <mishkin> Walzmyn: Is just for some testings but I deinetly I  need more RAM
[18:24] <Walzmyn> VB takes a lot of resources
[18:25] <mishkin> sorry I wanted to day definitely
[18:25] <mishkin> Walzmyn: what do you suggest instead? Kvm ?
[18:30] <Walzmyn> you said old laptop, is this your primary machine?
[18:30] <mishkin> Walzmyn: Yes it is...
[18:31] <Walzmyn> mishkin: OK. Just when ya said it was an old one, I was thinking you also had a newer machine. I was going to say just use the old lappy native for your tests
[19:11] <uglyoldbob> im having a problem, mythtv-backend wont automatically startup
[19:11] <uglyoldbob> what things should i check for?
[19:13] <uglyoldbob> oh wait, dmesg says mythtv-backedn respawning too fast
[19:45] <davide97> salve!
[19:45] <davide97> !list
[19:59] <mah454> Hello
[19:59] <mah454> I upgrade KDE to 4.9 with repository linked in Kubuntu.org
[20:00] <mah454> after upgrade kwin crashed ... !
[20:00] <mah454> How can debug this ?
[20:37] <diniwed1> Is there such a thing as an expert install..?
[20:38] <dougl> diniwed1, what do you mean?
[20:44] <diniwed1> dougl: debian-derived systems usually provide an expert mode (often non-graphical) where you can tweak just about anything. I did not find one when I installed kubuntu 12.04
[20:45] <dougl> diniwed1, I found I could tweak mine intalling from text mode - custom parts,mounts with and without formating
[20:45] <dougl> if that helps?
[20:46] <dougl> right down to individual package selection altho I did not look at it
[20:47] <diniwed1> dougl: odd.. must have missed it somehow..
[20:49] <dougl> is there forsure... did a install text yesterday
[20:50] <diniwed1> dougl: is it a 'hidden
[20:51] <diniwed1> ' option in the installer's main menu..?
[20:51] <dougl> was a grub boot option
[20:51] <dougl> I thot
[20:52] <dougl> gui does not work on my box until the nvidia drivers are installed
[20:52] <dougl> I have to kinda coax an install but is good when I am done
[20:55] <BluesKaj> well, PC-BSD is a total washout on my hardware ...installed it successfully after 3 tries , then it freezes during the load after login , nothing much has changed in 7 yrs :P
[20:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> heh frustrated yet?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> had a spare partition that I thought might be fun to fool around with BSD in ,but it still has a long way to go
[20:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya fun to try but takes to much of my time to do that
[20:57] <BluesKaj> it's one of those distros that likes to take over the whole disk
[20:58] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm kind of like windows i guess
[20:59] <BluesKaj> i have windows 7 working fine on a partition on this drive
[20:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya  i have it on this laptop why i dont know never use it , next time i install its gone i think
[21:00] <mydogsnameisrudy> 12.10 running good for you BluesKaj?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, yeah just fine now ..had a few total freezes , but it sems fine the last 2 days
[21:04] <BluesKaj> wife was asking about netflix , so I might keep w7 for a while , maybe we'll subscribe this winter
[21:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya i cant use it with this dish
[21:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> way to slow
[21:04] <BluesKaj> right ...bummer
[21:05] <Nailyouh> HEAY GUYS
[21:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> i get 2 cd a week way more then i need
[21:05] <Nailyouh> uouh caps
[21:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> Nailyouh:  HIGH ;)
[21:05] <Nailyouh> :D high
[21:06] <Nailyouh> i likr ur dog i think
[21:06] <Nailyouh> with such a beautiful name
[21:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> he is a good dog
[21:06] <Nailyouh> :P
[21:06] <Nailyouh> i can imagine
[21:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> red bone coon hound
[21:06] <BluesKaj> dunno if if a lot of movies will really appeal to us tho ..seems geared towards younger ppl , there was alotta junk there when we tried the trial a while back
[21:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya i agree BluesKaj
[21:07] <Nailyouh> i use kubuntu on a netbook is it normal that it is sooo slooow?
[21:07] <Nailyouh> its damn slow :(
[21:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> everything is slow Nailyouh
[21:08] <Nailyouh> yea my brain 2 atm D:
[21:08] <Nailyouh> i hv to try xubuntu i think :P
[21:08] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmm no idea on a netbook   ,, sorry
[21:08] <Nailyouh> no ill try nso
[21:08] <Nailyouh> nao
[21:08] <Nailyouh> see you laater
[21:08] <Nailyouh> 8.
[21:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> oke
[21:09] <BluesKaj> I heard google was going to setup chrome/chromium to run netflix within it's browser so that most OSs would work with it , but I haven't heard anything for over a yr about that
[21:21] <BluesKaj> mydognameisrudy, are you going to try 12.10 anytime soon ?
[21:28] <linux> hi
[22:32] <pedahzur> glxinfo is telling me that direct rending is enabled (this is an nVidia card), but desktop effects is telling that it can't enable some effects because they "require OpenGL."  This is Kubuntu 12.04.  .xession_errors tells me, for example: kwin(2879) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_blur"  is not supported