| ESphynx | Yay :) it built! | 00:22 |
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| UndiFineD | :) | 01:19 |
| ESphynx | Ok so my Oneiric build failed :| | 02:14 |
| ESphynx | most likely because of the messed up symlink :| | 02:15 |
| ESphynx | for ffi.h | 02:15 |
| ESphynx | when I build manually, I have to do a: sudo ln -s /usr/include/i686-linux-gnu/ffi.h /usr/include/ ; sudo ln -s /usr/include/i686-linux-gnu/ffitarget.h /usr/include/ | 02:16 |
| ESphynx | or /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/ I guess ? | 02:17 |
| ESphynx | How should I go about addressing that issue? (That's when cross-building for 32 bit on 64 bit oneiric) | 02:17 |
| ESphynx | I have lib32ffi-dev [amd64] in the debian/control file, but I'm guessing that the ffi package messed up and put under i686-linux-gnu instead of i386 ... | 02:18 |
| jtaylor | why do you need to cross build on oneiric? | 02:18 |
| ESphynx | well, on precise I just do the i386 build | 02:19 |
| ESphynx | and I guess 64 bit systems can still pull it | 02:19 |
| jtaylor | yes | 02:19 |
| ESphynx | but on oneiric, it worked until I added this libffi... | 02:19 |
| ESphynx | So since I could do it, I did it. | 02:19 |
| ESphynx | it's nice to know it can successfully be built on a 64 bit system. | 02:19 |
| ESphynx | as users on oneiric 64 bit might want to build it from source. | 02:20 |
| jtaylor | they can in a 32 bit chroot | 02:20 |
| ESphynx | they can also in a 64 bit system | 02:20 |
| ESphynx | not chroot. | 02:20 |
| ESphynx | chroot is overrated. | 02:20 |
| ESphynx | is there a way for me to add this missing include symlink? | 02:20 |
| ESphynx | setting up a chroot is an unnecessary burden for my users... and something that might carry them away from my software :P | 02:21 |
| jtaylor | why does it not compile on 64 bit? | 02:21 |
| ESphynx | jtaylor: no 64 bit support yet :) | 02:22 |
| ESphynx | Support is planned but will take a lot of dev time :P | 02:22 |
| ESphynx | all I need is to create that proper ffi.h symlink :P | 02:22 |
| ESphynx | heck, I could just add an -isystem to my makefiles. | 02:23 |
| ESphynx | to /usr/include/i686-linux-gnu/ | 02:23 |
| jtaylor | the symlink is there in oneiric | 02:23 |
| jtaylor | wrong include path is easily worked around with CPPFLAGS | 02:24 |
| ESphynx | jtaylor: the symlink from where to where have you got? | 02:34 |
| jtaylor | .so to .so.X | 02:34 |
| ESphynx | jtaylor: no i'm talking about the ffi.h | 02:34 |
| jtaylor | its in lib32 | 02:34 |
| jtaylor | the headers are in i686 | 02:35 |
| ESphynx | right... and that's not in the path | 02:35 |
| jtaylor | then add it | 02:35 |
| ESphynx | they should be in i386-linux-gnu, should they not? | 02:35 |
| jtaylor | yes and they are in precise | 02:35 |
| jtaylor | pre precise it is not multiarched | 02:35 |
| jtaylor | only the old biarch | 02:36 |
| ESphynx | they are in precise eh? It's strange cuz yesterday someone had that same problem on Mint 13... and before someone on Precise... | 02:36 |
| ESphynx | ok | 02:36 |
| jtaylor | (which is probably defined as i686) | 02:36 |
| ESphynx | so I'll just go ahead and tweak the makefiles | 02:36 |
| ESphynx | (my makefiles don't use CFLAGS from outside :P) | 02:36 |
| jtaylor | thats a bug | 02:36 |
| ESphynx | is it? ;) | 02:37 |
| ESphynx | I hate outside factors messing up a build :P | 02:37 |
| ESphynx | besides I can defend it on the fact of not being C ;) | 02:37 |
| jtaylor | CFLAGS is compiler flags | 02:38 |
| jtaylor | CPPFLAGS is preprocessor flags | 02:38 |
| ESphynx | ;) | 02:38 |
| ESphynx | i'm not familiar with CPPFLAGS tbh ;) first time I hear it | 02:38 |
| ESphynx | is that a standard configure thing? where does it come from? | 02:38 |
| jtaylor | its a autotools thing | 02:39 |
| ESphynx | k... well I'm not using autotools... | 02:39 |
| ESphynx | am I bound to accept CPPFLAGS? ;) | 02:39 |
| jtaylor | no | 02:39 |
| ESphynx | ah :) | 02:39 |
| ESphynx | hehe thanks for all the help jtaylor! appreciate it :) | 02:39 |
| ESphynx | i'll get dinner ready and then fix my preprocessor flags :P | 02:40 |
| ESphynx | is there still hope to make it into Quantal? :) | 02:40 |
| jtaylor | feature freeze is aug 23 | 02:40 |
| ESphynx | ugg that is soon. | 02:40 |
| jtaylor | but you still need to find reviewers which is hard | 02:40 |
| jtaylor | so its tight | 02:40 |
| ESphynx | are you a reviewer? ;) | 02:40 |
| jtaylor | if I find the time | 02:41 |
| jtaylor | whats the package about? | 02:41 |
| ESphynx | It's the Ecere SDK... a cross platform SDK with GUI toolkit, network library, 2D/3D graphics engine, compiler for the eC language | 02:41 |
| ESphynx | we've been hoping to get into Ubuntu for quite a while... | 02:41 |
| ESphynx | (note GCC 4.7 fails on the build... trying to fix that tonight :P) | 02:42 |
| ESphynx | I would really appreciate help to get this in :) | 02:43 |
| ESphynx | whatever I can do! | 02:43 |
| micahg | well, there's always backports if you miss feature freeze | 03:01 |
| ESphynx | micahg: Do Backports till make it into the official release? | 04:32 |
| micahg | ESphynx: backports is enabled by default, so people can see it, it's not officially part of the release though (and can't be on any of the main images) | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | oh :( i'd really like to be part of the release though :( | 04:34 |
| ESphynx | we've been trying hard @ it since Karmic Koala :( | 04:34 |
| micahg | ESphynx: I don't think it makes a difference unless you're trying to get it on an image | 04:34 |
| ESphynx | yes I'd like to be on the CD :P | 04:34 |
| micahg | ESphynx: which CD? | 04:34 |
| ESphynx | hmm... the 1 CD ideally :P | 04:34 |
| ESphynx | or DVD :P | 04:34 |
| micahg | Ubuntu doesn't have that like Debian | 04:35 |
| ESphynx | where do dev apps go? | 04:35 |
| ESphynx | hmm, I have an Ubuntu CD here | 04:35 |
| ESphynx | 9.04 I think ? | 04:35 |
| micahg | no, I mean Ubuntu doesn't have the whole archive on media | 04:35 |
| ESphynx | right, but it's got some stuff, right? :) | 04:35 |
| micahg | to get something on an image, there has to be a request for it, the primary images (flavors included) are all tight on space except maybe Ubuntu Studio | 04:36 |
| ESphynx | I'll settle for Ubuntu Studio I guess ;) | 04:36 |
| ESphynx | but anyway, I'd really like to make it to feature freeze :P | 04:37 |
| ESphynx | but jtaylor ran away :P | 04:37 |
| ESphynx | micahg are you a potential reviewer as well? :) | 04:37 |
| micahg | ESphynx: yeah, but just FWIW, I don't see this being included on any media, it's fine for the archive though (in theory, I've done no review) | 04:38 |
| ESphynx | micahg: hey, I can dream ;) | 04:39 |
| ESphynx | I'll start with being on the archive ;) | 04:39 |
| ESphynx | Seriously, eC is an amazing programming language. | 04:39 |
| ESphynx | with less popularity than it deserves :P | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | And so is the Ecere GUI/toolkit ;) | 04:40 |
| micahg | I'm not sure any of the flavors ship an IDE at all | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | hmm, I'm sure they do? | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | KDevelop etc. | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | Python support? | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | I'm sure the distros come with Python support? | 04:40 |
| micahg | I don't think that's on any media though | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | in terms of space, the SDK is tiny... | 04:41 |
| ESphynx | we're talking < 10mb | 04:41 |
| micahg | we have many in the archive, just none on shipped media | 04:41 |
| ESphynx | K.... I sure would have thought some IDEs shipped with it! | 04:41 |
| ESphynx | Would you potentially have time to do a review? :) | 04:42 |
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| smartboyhw | green7: You here? | 10:19 |
| green7 | yup | 10:19 |
| smartboyhw | Did you ask them? | 10:20 |
| green7 | I'm asking | 10:20 |
| green7 | need some help in beginning development. | 10:20 |
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| green7 | can anyone help me in starting development? | 10:49 |
| micahg | this happens to be one of the few times during the week when very few people are around | 10:52 |
| green7 | well, can you help me? | 10:53 |
| micahg | I'm very close to going to sleep, but what do you mean by development (Ubuntu, Ubuntu App, general)? | 10:54 |
| green7 | Ubuntu | 10:54 |
| iulian | To start with, have a look at the links from the topic. | 10:54 |
| iulian | Specifically, the contributing one. | 10:54 |
| green7 | Well, the Ubuntu wiki has so much links! | 10:55 |
| iulian | That's a good thing, isn't it? | 10:55 |
| green7 | Nope! It's very confusing! | 10:55 |
| green7 | When I'm close to reading half the page, it directs me to take a look a t some other page. | 10:56 |
| iulian | green7: Well, then read that page and come back. | 10:57 |
| green7 | OK. I want to fix the bugs and probably write some patches. What should I read? The MOTU wiki? | 10:58 |
| iulian | There's way too much stuff going on to just have one single page. And thus, we've structured it as much as we could. | 10:58 |
| iulian | green7: Yes. That'd be a good place to start. | 10:58 |
| green7 | All right. | 10:58 |
| iulian | If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here and we shall try to point you in the right direction. | 11:00 |
| green7 | okay, thanks | 11:00 |
| green7 | hello again | 12:15 |
| green7 | got a question | 12:15 |
| green7 | join #ubuntu-devel | 12:19 |
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| green7 | got a question | 13:46 |
| smartboyhw | green7: Clearly it is still me here | 13:47 |
| green7 | so I've read the MOTU wiki | 13:47 |
| green7 | and I'm ready for packaging | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 13:47 |
| green7 | The question is that there are many requests for packaging, and some of them already have their ppa, so what's the point of packaging? | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | Don't ask me, ask the others | 13:48 |
| green7 | I'm asking everyone | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | They are not awake:) | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | green7: Also it's Sunday | 13:49 |
| green7 | yep | 13:49 |
| green7 | do you know what's the difference between the packager and the maintainer? | 13:51 |
| smartboyhw | green7: I am only good at testing | 13:51 |
| green7 | okay | 13:51 |
| green7 | I cannot debuild a code | 14:47 |
| green7 | I need some help in debuilding a package | 15:29 |
| smartboyhw | green7: This is Sunday!!!! | 15:30 |
| green7 | not a single person works on sunday? | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | NO! | 15:32 |
| ESphynx | I do :) | 15:40 |
| smartboyhw | Good! | 15:40 |
| ESphynx | I have to rewrite my code generator to work with GCC 4.7 though :P | 15:41 |
| codemaniac | smartboyhw: a lot of people work on Sundays for the community . :) | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | Oh, do they | 15:48 |
| codemaniac | as weekdays are full of work on work . | 15:48 |
| green7 | right | 15:49 |
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