[00:41] <jkyle> I've run up against the 12.04 lvm bug where volumes are not activated on reboot. is there a pathc or update I need to grab?
[01:07] <pmatulis> jkyle: is the bug reported?
[04:04] <Datz> hi, my crontab suddenly is missing all the sudden, and suggestions on where to look?
[11:11] <jacobw> hi, i'm interested in the mysql-cluster-server package in precise
[11:12] <jacobw> the package was discontinued in precise, i'm looking for information about this
[11:14] <jacobw> if it's within my abilities, i would be interested in helping out
[13:13] <stgraber> hallyn: looks like half of our delta on lxc was merged upstream!
[13:56] <RoyK> seems I didn't set autostart on degraded raid, and now I end up in initramfs / busybox - is there a way to do something useful in there, or is it just there to annoy people?
[13:59] <RoyK> thing is, I boot with bootdegraded=1 and it goes directly to busybox. without bootdegraded=1, it prompts me if I want to boot with degraded raid, but doesn't take input from the usb keyboard, and after some seconds, it sends me to busybox
[14:04] <RoyK> btw, this raid is not the root
[14:15] <RoyK> seems to me the whole busybox thing is just a prank
[14:52] <jml> perhaps the wrong channel. I'm getting back into Java development after taking a decade off
[14:52] <jml> do I need to set JAVA_HOME in my environment on Ubuntu, or does the packaging take care of that?
[14:57] <jkyle> pmatulis: there's a decent handful of bugs on lvm not coming up at boot, not sure which exact one applies yet
[15:12] <jkyle> looks like update-initramfs wasn't run
[17:44] <AlphaWolf> I have 2 drives, my boot drive and my media (external) drive. I get a fair bit of stuttering when streaming music/videos, and I was wondering if one of the HDD could be causing the slowing issues? The boot drive is very slow, but I thought it wouldn't be used since it's reading from the external drive? I used to have Windows Home Server installed on the same machine, but I never had any issues streaming. Any ideas?
[17:56] <disown> curious can anybody tell me if I setup an http proxy server can I then just uses the proxy in my web browser on different machines to get internet thru the proxy server in though I don't have any dns server configured or any thing does the proxy take care of the dns and everything
[20:48] <RoyK> wtf
[20:48] <RoyK> seems ubuntu server fails totally if a raid is missing a drive
[20:48] <RoyK> bootdegraded=1 set, it fails to busybox
[20:50] <guntbert> RoyK: I seem to remember a bug where that option didn't make it into the kernel command line, you had to put it there yourself
[20:50] <RoyK> guntbert: tried it
[20:51] <RoyK> guntbert: still, the problem is any system should boot if a raid is missing a drive
[20:51] <RoyK> guntbert: not booting a system with a missing drive is bullshit
[20:52] <RoyK> and btw, this isn't even a boot device, it's a data set, raid-6 with a spare
[20:52] <RoyK> should be able to allow for a dead drive
[20:54] <guntbert> RoyK: I cannot completely agree (believing you do have a functional raid when you have not might be desastrous), but on servers I'd expect the admin to monitor closely anyway, so the default setting of false seems suboptimal :)
[20:54] <RoyK> and btw, I'm a sysadmin
[20:55] <RoyK> I know how these things work
[20:55] <RoyK> I want a server to boot up properly even if a drive in a RAID-6 group has failed
[20:58] <guntbert> RoyK: sure, I didn't imply anything else - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID suggests using /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm and setting BOOT_DEGRADED=true there
[20:59] <RoyK> tried it - still fails - will try again
[20:59] <RoyK> point is, that flag is ment to be for boot devices
[20:59] <RoyK> I don't boot from a raid, I use that raid for data
[21:01] <guntbert> RoyK: the kernel flag is meant for boot devices, yes, but the mdadm?
[21:02] <RoyK> boot device is a single ssd
[21:02] <RoyK> server still jumps into panic mode if the md device doesn't start correctly
[21:02] <RoyK> that's wrong
[21:03] <lifeless> How many impressions did that $18 yield to get that one sign up?
[21:03] <RoyK> so utterly wrong I'll be reconsidering ubuntu for a server platform soon
[21:04] <RoyK> as in, considering centos
[21:04] <lifeless> hah, copy-paste-fail.
[21:05] <RoyK> guntbert: please tell if you find a good reason for tossing the bootup into busybox for a single drive failure
[21:05] <RoyK> in a raid-6
[21:05] <RoyK> with a spare
[21:05] <RoyK> or even a raid-5 without a spare
[21:05] <guntbert> RoyK: no :-) - but this is no place for bug reports either
[21:07] <guntbert> RoyK: please consider reporting a bug before moving :)
[21:09] <RoyK> bug 1035958
[21:10] <RoyK> whatever they were smoking when they found out jumping into busybox if a drive fails
[21:10] <RoyK> I need to test that stuff - it must be good
[21:11] <guntbert> RoyK: what is a raid6?
[21:11] <RoyK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid6#RAID_6
[21:26] <PatrickDK> royk, much like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/872220
[21:27] <RoyK> PatrickDK: seems like the same thing
[21:27] <RoyK> I can't beleive such a bug has been left unfixed for such a long time
[21:28] <RoyK> they want people to run servers on this thing?
[21:28] <PatrickDK> :)
[21:28] <PatrickDK> why I test everything pretty closely
[21:29] <PatrickDK> still a few show stopper bugs in precise stopping me from upgrading
[21:29] <PatrickDK> I upgraded one of my desktop machines from lucid to precise yesterday, took me 8hours :(
[21:29] <RoyK> perhaps reinstalling on lucid will fix it
[21:29] <PatrickDK> and that was to do a reinstall only :(
[21:29] <PatrickDK> cause upgrade kept failing
[21:30] <PatrickDK> have to spend a few days this week, getting my stuff all sorted out
[21:30] <RoyK> I hope the ubuntu guys or canonical will fix this
[21:30] <PatrickDK> I have two clients thinking about payed ubuntu server support
[21:30] <RoyK> it's rather disasterous to disallow a system with a broken drive in a raid set to boot
[21:30] <PatrickDK> ubuntu really needs to add some other pricing models
[21:31] <RoyK> seems to me ubuntu needs more QA before they release things
[21:33] <PatrickDK> that isn't in a qa test set
[21:33] <PatrickDK> only boot raid, not dataset raid
[21:34] <RoyK> dataset raid shouldn't stop a bootup
[21:34] <RoyK> even if it was broken
[21:34] <RoyK> even single mode fails
[21:34] <RoyK> meaning: someone in the ubuntu team was smoking something rather good
[22:25] <hallyn> stgraber: oh really.  sigh, maybe i need to spend the next week on one bug humongous merge :)
[22:25] <hallyn> unless you're already doing it!
[22:25] <hallyn> jjohansen: are you around by chance?  Just wondering if you're still using your efika smarttop, and, if so, what image you're using
[22:26] <hallyn> (if you're not, i'll go ask infinity over in an arm/linaro channel)
[22:26] <jjohansen> hallyn: I haven't been using it, I have been meaning to try the linaro kernel on it since it has been reported to be working but I just haven't had the time
[22:26] <hallyn> just wasted an hour trying to set it up headless (no hdmi sitting around) bc i didn't realize it was running network-manager.
[22:26] <hallyn> jjohansen: ok, thanks
[22:27] <hallyn> jjohansen: so the last thing you had on it was maverick?
[22:29] <jjohansen> hallyn: no, I had natty or oneiric.  It was doable as along as you edited the apt/sources manually instead of using the graphical update manager, basically you needed to keep the older effika-mx kernel and flashkernel, and the ubuntu versions could brick your device
[22:30] <hallyn> oh i'm using no gui...  purely headless.  was a bit of a pain until i realized network-manager was running and messing with me
[22:30] <jjohansen> I ran into problems with the last upgrade though and needed to do a clean install, and just haven't yet
[22:30] <jjohansen> hallyn: yeah I got to where I was running headless too
[22:31] <jjohansen> at first I couldn't because their earlier kernels had a bug where they wouldn't boot unless a monitor was attached
[22:31] <hallyn> jjohansen: i'm away from home and don't have any hdmi, so had no choice.  required bootstrapping from a gentoo sd card bc sshd wasn't running by default
[22:31] <hallyn> oh yeah i heard about that
[22:31] <hallyn> i was fjeered it would affect me, luckily didn't
[22:31] <jjohansen> hallyn: they also have a debian hf image I have been meaning to try
[22:32] <hallyn> yeah i saw that one (after i dd'd the gentoo one).  i'll fall back to that one if i need to.
[22:32] <jjohansen> hallyn: I keep meaning to get it backup but my play time has been with my transformer tablet
[22:35] <minashokry> Hello, while upgrading my server from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 I had problems and now many packages are left unconfigured. when I run "dpkg-reconfigure -a" I see a message from AddUser package asking about home directories privacy, whatever I answer yes or no, it appears again repeatedly. Anyone can help?
[22:40] <hallyn> minashokry: what is the exact msg
[22:42] <minashokry> it is a very long message appear on a blue background. It asks me about if I want to make home directories readable only by owners or by everyone, then says this will apply on newly created users. then do you want to do that? (yes, no)
[22:44] <hallyn> minashokry: sorry, i don't recognize it.  might check /var/log/apt/term.log and /var/log/dpkg for some more info
[22:45] <minashokry> hallyn: exact message is that "By default, users' home directories are readable by all users on the system. If you want to increase security and privacy, you might want home directories to be readable only for their owners. But if in doubt, leave this option enabled. This will only affect home directories of users added from now on with the adduser command. Do you want system-wide readable home directories?
[22:47] <minashokry> hallyn: this is output of tail /var/log/apt/term.log
[22:47] <minashokry>  icedtea-netx
[22:47] <minashokry>  libgd-text-perl
[22:47] <minashokry>  libgd-graph-perl
[22:47] <minashokry>  libgd-graph3d-perl
[22:47] <minashokry>  openjdk-6-jdk
[22:47] <minashokry>  vim-gnome
[22:47] <minashokry>  ghostscript
[22:47] <minashokry>  gs-cjk-resource
[22:47] <minashokry> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[22:47] <minashokry> Log ended: 2012-08-12  06:38:18
[22:47] <hallyn> minashokry: ah.  you wanted to run dpkg-configure -a, not dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:47] <minashokry> hallyn: oh.. let me try
[22:48] <minashokry> hallyn: dpkg-configure: command not found
[22:53] <hallyn> sorry, 'dpkg --configure -a'
[22:53] <hallyn> minashokry: ^
[22:53]  * hallyn out
[22:56] <minashokry> hallyn: I get this output http://pastebin.com/d0bvp4DY
[23:08] <minashokry> hallyn: thanks I passed the problem
[23:46] <zaitzev> evening people
[23:47] <zaitzev> anyone here happen to be running Cherokee?