=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:39] morning [08:39] hiya Squirm [09:20] yo Cantide [09:21] hi Tonberry [09:21] morning '< [09:21] i am actually CanSnack / CanStudy right now [09:21] so partially AFK :p [09:21] lol === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [16:47] Hoi! :) [17:38] hi superfly and others [17:39] drussell, evening. how good are you at making waves [17:41] hi smile [17:41] hallo Kilos :) [18:00] Evening all [18:01] evening, magespawn :) [18:02] * smile gee magespawn 'n drukkie [18:02] Hey smile [18:02] :) [18:02] O/ [18:02] how was your day ^^ [18:03] yo magespawn [18:03] Hey Kilos [18:05] Good thanks smile spent some of it at the beach [18:05] magespawn: hot? :) [18:06] Pleasanylt warm for the first half. [18:06] lty [18:08] 25 [18:10] magespawn: 28 here @ 18h :) [18:10] so it was over 30+ degrees [18:10] it's the hottest we reach in Belgium [18:10] in an average summer [18:11] Had 35 yesterday. Winter here, unusual though, normally 20-25 [18:14] hi magespawn and smile [18:14] on my Kindle Fire [18:14] Hey superfly [18:14] And? [18:14] hehe [18:14] hi Pankreas [18:14] Hey there Kilos [18:15] it's useless outside of the USA [18:15] aw and you were so looking forward to it superfly [18:15] Why/ [18:15] ? [18:16] * Banlam is also curious [18:16] hehe [18:16] hi superfly :D [18:17] Sorry to interupt, everyone in here SA Ubuntu users? [18:17] not all [18:17] Pankreas: nope, i'm Belgium Ubuntu user :) [18:17] Right. [18:17] some use other systems too [18:17] From all over [18:17] (and developer, not for ubuntu) :p [18:18] magespawn: it only has the Amazon app store, which is only available in the USA [18:18] Belgium, nice. [18:18] Pankreas: and you :D [18:18] Pankreas: most of us are from SA [18:18] I have that on my HTC flyer and it works. [18:19] all right, cool. From SA as well. I am new to the whole linux scene, but very interrested.... Still have to make up my mind between two types. [18:20] magespawn: I had to root my Kindle to install Google Play [18:20] Pankreas: which two types? welcome in linux world :) [18:20] Pankreas, what two? [18:20] lol [18:20] some things may be overwhelming, but please ask :) [18:20] No shortage of opinions here thats for sure. [18:20] and welcome to ubuntu-za [18:20] Thank you smile. Ubuntu and Fedora. [18:20] ubuntu [18:20] Thank you Kilos [18:20] Ubuntu is much easier for beginning linux users :) [18:21] I recommended it to someone this week and he likes it very much [18:21] Strange superfly, I use the amazon app from google play so maybe that is different. [18:21] He's happy with it [18:21] :) [18:21] Pankreas, have you got adsl [18:21] Right, ok, that will help, lol. Loaded the Fedora from the live media.... [18:21] Pankreas: Fedora is pretty nice, but it tends to break when you upgrade [18:22] uncapped internet dongle stick.... [18:22] Fedora is much modern techniques -> more likely to break [18:22] :p [18:22] thank you superfly , you just made up my mind.... [18:22] Pankreas: in my experience, Ubuntu breaks less [18:22] magespawn: app store, not app [18:23] linux mint? [18:23] Brb [18:23] look nice [18:23] Pankreas, have you used or seen any linux os in action yet? [18:23] Pankreas: good choice also. :) most ubuntu software will run on linux mint too [18:23] superfly yup the amazon app store. [18:24] Is mint not ubuntu baser? [18:24] Baser [18:24] Based [18:24] haha youll get there [18:24] magespawn: well, I couldn't even install free apps [18:24] sooner or later [18:24] Well, i am downloading ubuntu tonite, while I sleep. lol. No really no, not in action. right, so you get different software aswell,??? [18:25] all software is available in the repos [18:25] meaning, software for different versions of linux... [18:25] software centre [18:25] oh ya [18:25] superfly i cant get the drm ones that need usa but the free ones I can [18:26] magespawn, mail them to the fly [18:26] magespawn: yes it is [18:26] :) [18:26] So then it uses dpkg and apt? [18:26] yes, apt-get to be precise [18:26] :) [18:26] ok, I'm still learning. Thank you. [18:27] Debian packages .dbm? [18:27] .deb, magespawn ;) [18:27] Pankreas, you are welcome here no matter what linux system you are using [18:27] even arch ;) [18:27] Touch keyboard [18:27] but less likely with Arch Linux we will able to help you [18:27] :p [18:27] Pankreas: no, we're talking about how you install software on Linux [18:28] Pankreas: on Windows you have those installers. on Linux it works completely differently [18:28] Pankreas, once you have installed ubuntu everything is available at the click of your mouse [18:29] The point I was trying to get to was Pankreas can use the ubuntu software. [18:29] I'm not rushing into anything at the moment. Going to change my desktop pc to linux, and take it from there. I really don't want to sound like a newbie, but hey, I am.... [18:29] I am going to install Ubuntu [18:30] Pankreas: each distribution has their own way to install stuff, though the concept is the same for them all [18:30] good decision [18:30] bye :) [18:30] Pankreas: awesome!! [18:30] most help needed for ubuntu you can get here [18:30] :) [18:30] toods smile [18:30] bye smile [18:30] that is some good news. [18:30] see ya all :) [18:30] bye smile [18:30] Bye smile [18:30] good night :) [18:31] sleep tight smiley guy [18:31] http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm maybe give this a gander. [18:31] thanks Kilos :D [18:31] Pankreas^ [18:31] will do. ty [18:34] Um... server taking to long to respond, will check it out a bit later then. [18:35] Pankreas, you can upgrade your server to ubuntu as well [18:35] hehe [18:36] Here is a qeustion, running server OS on a desktop not for a server purpose. pointless right? [18:36] question. [18:36] btw, I do make spelling mistakes. [18:36] lol [18:36] superfly, runs his server on a sparee pc at home [18:37] Pankreas: what server OS though? [18:37] we all do [18:38] cool, but for server purpose... netwoking, vrn etc.... Squirm: any i guess, win 2008, red hat.... [18:38] I know a guy who runs windows server '03, stability purposes [18:38] I'd run something like RH as a desktop [18:39] debian? [18:39] it's nice and stable, if that's what you're going for. Only downfall is you don't get all the up to date packages, you'd have to build them yourself [18:39] Tonberry: I run debian [18:40] on my desktop, netboot and raspberry pi [18:40] s/netboot/netbook [18:40] Ok, was thinking of loading ubuntu server.... but went for the desktop version... [18:40] does everyone but me have a pi? [18:40] Tonberry: probably [18:41] No I dont have one yet [18:42] um, I had custard pi today...... Only heard of the raspberry pi today, what is it, if I may ask? [18:42] hardware, software? [18:42] credit card sized computer [18:42] 800Mhz arm processor, 256mb ram [18:43] powered off 5v mini usb [18:43] Maaz, google rasberry pi [18:43] Kilos: "Raspberry Pi | An ARM GNU/Linux box for $25. Take a byte!" http://www.raspberrypi.org/ :: "FAQs | Raspberry Pi" http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs :: "Raspberry Pi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi :: "Rasberry pi - Hack a Day" http://hackaday.com/category/rasberry-pi/ :: "Rasberry Pi Foundation announces the Gertboard - The H Open ..." http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Rasberry-Pi-Found [18:43] look at the faq [18:43] it has photo [18:44] Pankreas, download the server tomorrow night [18:44] you can also try kubuntu [18:44] the fly should have a link [18:44] Pankreas: it's not exactly 'pointless', it depends what the person wants out of his OS [18:45] http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-cdimage/ [18:45] Squirm, is kubuntu there [18:45] should be [18:46] they split from canonical [18:46] http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/ [18:46] or vice versa [18:46] ah [18:46] hmm [18:46] the date's are old though [18:46] Pankreas: there's no real difference between the server and the desktop in Linux, other than the preinstalled software [18:46] goes up to 11.10 [18:47] Wow, look very nice, will have a better look later at the raspberry pi. [18:47] Pankreas: best part is, you'll pay around R340 for it [18:47] superfly: Right, so server it is then. [18:47] reason for tomorrow night? [18:47] Squirm: what? really? [18:48] Pankreas: but if you want to use it as a desktop machine, install the desktop version [18:48] Pankreas: you can install the server software as and when you need it [18:49] ok, does this make sense... I want to learn myself a bit more about servers, and linux, thus installing a server version should be the best option???? [18:49] yes, no? [18:49] start with desktop first [18:49] Pankreas: remember, the server doesn't have a gui [18:50] Pankreas: start with the desktop [18:50] speaking of servers. I really need to start learning for my RH exam :/ [18:52] makes sense, seeing as the gui will help. [18:54] Right Gentlemen, and Ladies if present. quick coffee and smoke break, which i am trying to stop as well... both. brb. [18:54] Maaz: coffee on [18:54] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:54] lol [18:54] Maaz, coffee please [18:54] Kilos: Yessir [18:55] lol [18:56] Pankreas: coffee yes, smoke no. :-) [18:57] Squirm RH exam? [18:57] smoking keeps elephants at bay [18:58] magespawn: doing my RHCSA on the 24th [18:58] great Squirm [18:58] glad to hear that [18:58] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [18:58] ty Maaz [18:58] Maaz, danke [18:58] Bitteschön [18:58] Kilos: I hope it will be great [18:59] give it your best lad [18:59] 2.5 hour prac [18:59] ...fun [18:59] whew [19:00] and the theory? [19:00] 3 hours [19:00] no theory [19:00] lekker [19:00] yeah [19:00] if it was theory, I'd suffer [19:01] it's more like. here's a problem, fix it [19:01] ah thats nice [19:02] when Squirm ? [19:03] magespawn, you gone quiet [19:04] Family chatting here. Also googling rhsca. [19:04] Rhcsa [19:06] Red Hat Certified System Administrator [19:06] then the next level from that is Red Hat Certified Engineer [19:07] which I want to get, but maybe next year [19:07] inbetween I think I'll try and get up to LPIC3 [19:10] There is obviously market for linux in SA? [19:11] I think there is a market world wide. [19:12] fair [19:13] Big business uses it to tun most of their servers and such. [19:13] Tun/run [19:13] that's where I'm hoping to go [19:14] Good luck with that. Read somewhere on one of the linux sites, servers that has not been shut down in over a year.. [19:14] that happens pretty often [19:15] Symmetria: maybe you can grab an uptime off the mirror? [19:15] :P [19:15] * Squirm pesters [19:15] Which is a plus [19:15] Only time mine goes off is when Eskom fails. [19:16] my dedi which hosts my irc server in the US [19:16] $ uptime [19:16] 15:14:26 up 192 days, [19:17] nice :) [19:17] debian ftw [19:28] hi psydroid [19:28] hi Kilos [19:28] i go sleep now. sleep warm all [19:28] see ya morrow [19:29] Night kilos, night all. [19:34] Right people, time to say good bye. Thanks for the chat. see again. [19:45] Kilos: that was quick [19:48] lol i forgot to ask maaz somethig [19:48] good evening [19:48] Kilos: I'm still alive [19:49] that is for in case you where wondering [19:49] goosie [19:50] hi Kilos and inetpro [19:50] so lekker to see you again [19:50] hows things old man [19:50] kids killed my internet connection [19:50] * inetpro been afk for a few days [19:50] ouch [19:50] we kinda noticed inetpro [19:50] better sort things out [19:51] 8 days to meeting [19:51] hello inetpro [19:51] Kilos: hmm... time to start thinking about the new agenda [19:51] heh Squirm and psydroid [19:52] * inetpro won't touch the agenda tonight... need another weekend to recover from the long weekend [19:52] now i can go sleep. i spoke to maaz and saw the pro [19:52] 8 days is plenty inetpro [19:53] we start in the week sometime [19:53] Kilos: tks, now I feel better [19:53] good night [19:53] night again guys [21:14] night all