[00:00] <goth> precise
[00:01] <goth> for the moment I just try to permanentely enable hw acceleration again
[00:01] <BooG> ubuntu 12
[00:01] <exutux> s/more/alot of/
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> goth: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'             Thanks
[00:01] <maheanuu> exutuxI have a clean external 1.5TB drive as the empty back up drive and the files I am trying to reccover are on another external  drive  that is also a 1.5TB
[00:02] <goth> http://pastebin.com/WjYAENuL
[00:03] <maheanuu> I am running the same, and have no problems, with my flash but my upgrade was only 2 days aGO
[00:03] <exutux> maheanuu: well you can it's enough :D
[00:04] <goth> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/WjYAENuL
[00:05] <maheanuu> exutux  I thought that it would be ok, but looking for the command line stuff I am going to need to do this, I was working in the Directory of Books Ebooks and Audio Books and apparently pumped it into space perhaps Jupiteer as I don't see the debris on Mars
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> goth: sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash gnash-common
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> goth: then:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install adobe-flashplugin
[00:06] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, U da smarted dood here!!!
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: sometimes
[00:06] <goth> ok I try
[00:06] <goth> I was actually thinking about removing the flashplugin?
[00:06] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, U my heeerow
[00:06] <goth> how far is gnash?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> hahha
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> goth: not sure, could try it, its free
[00:07] <goth> but flash causes major bugs
[00:07] <goth> so maybe worth a try
[00:07] <goth> also flash stores a lot of data
[00:07] <goth> and then there are the adds/etc
[00:09] <jyc> how can I run xrandr at the login screen?
[00:09] <jyc> I used to be able to use /etc/gdm/Init/Default, but now that ubuntu uses lightdm
[00:09] <m477> what are advantages of using terminal applications instead of window oen
[00:10] <maheanuu> exutux, does foremost recover mp3 files as a lot of my ebooks are audio ones and those are the most important to me
[00:11] <maheanuu> \
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> m477: skills are transferable
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: why do you not have a backup?
[00:11] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, only one thing I have to say is I'm still dangerous here after all these sessions
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: foremost may be able to recover data, but its not guarunteed
[00:12] <gsr> Hi all.  My unity launcher seems to have disappeard.  If I put my mouse over it, I can still see the names for each program, and I can still click and launch - but its completely transparent.  Same with the bar at the top of the screen.  can I refresh unity without having to restart X?
[00:13] <maheanuu> I do have backups, but I had a major crash and by the time i got finished putting on every version from 10.04 thru 12.04 I lost all sorts of stuff and these drives are external
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: you can go directly from 10.04 to 12.04 as it is LTS to LTS
[00:14] <maheanuu> I see that it does pdf's and mpegs but does mpegs inclued mp3
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: foremost does all files
[00:15] <triad> It's Ubuntu good as server?
[00:15] <maheanuu> I didn't wanna leave 10.04LTS but after a serious crash I had to and Ubuntu kept telling me that I needed to upgrade until I got to 12.04
[00:15] <Debolaz> triad: Yes.
[00:15] <triad> :)
[00:15] <zykotick9> triad: not really... ubuntu isn't "stable"
[00:15] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, I done tole you i am dangerous!
[00:15] <triad> hm..
[00:15] <jyc> zykotick9: what are you talking about?
[00:16] <jyc> triad: just use ubuntu LTS, you'll be fine. Wikipedia uses ubuntu servers IIRC
[00:16] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, and not too bright either
[00:16] <triad> lolm are you serious ))?
[00:16] <edgy> Hi, I copied my-huge.cnf to my.cnf and restarted mysql and it didn't come up, what's wrong?
[00:16] <maheanuu> \
[00:17] <triad> why they use Ubuntu instead other type of OS
[00:17] <triad> ?
[00:17] <triad> i use fedora 17 on my netbook and i think to set my server on ubuntu, because centos give's me some serious headache
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> triad: ask them
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> triad: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies/wikimedia
[00:19] <triad> right now i'm reading that
[00:19] <triad> hehe
[00:20] <goth> ActionParsnip: ok, your procedure didn't help
[00:20] <triad> so i'll think i'll go for ubuntu
[00:20] <triad> :)
[00:20] <goth> ActionParsnip: still the same behaviour, still hw accel deactivated
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> triad: why not use it yourself and form your own opinion....
[00:21] <goth> triad: or use debian for server...
[00:21] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Don't spread fud.
[00:21] <zykotick9> Debolaz: i'm not.  ubuntu isn't "stable" in either of the computer sences of the term... that's "fact"
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> goth: remove all the packages you got in the output and then install the adobe-flashplugin package
[00:22] <Debolaz> zykotick9: What definition of stable would that be then?
[00:22] <goth> that's what I did, remove with purge even
[00:22] <zykotick9> Debolaz: stable 1) non-changing packages 2) none crashing... </OT>
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> goth: yes remove them all so you have zero flash
[00:23] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Ubuntu seems perfectly stable to me then.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: once its released it's officially stable :)
[00:23] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: used to be.  not anymore, see firefox... ;)
[00:23] <Cromat> zykotick9: What disto do you think is stable more so than Ubuntu, the only one I know is debian stable branch...
[00:23] <zykotick9> Cromat: what i use ;)
[00:24] <Cromat> lol ok
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ive not seen firefox for the last 3 releases
[00:24] <exutux> I have 15 Ubuntu server running actually and it's all stable
[00:24] <Cromat> zykotick9: I missed the first half of the discussion are you having an issue?
[00:24] <zykotick9> Cromat: no issue here <i'll drop the OT>
[00:25] <triad> lol
[00:25] <triad> there is 12.04 LTS SERVER stable version ?
[00:25] <exutux> triad: yes it is
[00:25] <Debolaz> triad: Yes.
[00:25] <goth> ActionParsnip: that's what I did
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> triad: yes
[00:25] <goth> ActionParsnip: I think it is some setting in firefox
[00:25] <triad> i had ubuntu desktop for 6 months, i know how it works. just asking about the server because i don't know how it is
[00:25] <antonio_> thank you actionparsnip
[00:25] <goth> how do I change the firefox settings?
[00:25] <antonio_> my touchpad work perfectly now..
[00:25] <goth> I forgot
[00:26] <goth> about:config
[00:26] <goth> ok
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> goth: then no idea, your OS is 64bit and the adobe-flashplugin package will install 64bit flash, you could play with /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file
[00:26] <Debolaz> triad: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: what was the magic bullet?
[00:26] <Cromat> goth: The alternative is to use chrome, no need for flash then as a seperate install
[00:26] <antonio_> actually I am sure..
[00:26] <triad> Debolaz: it has installation features, like ..to be able to not install any DE and so on ?
[00:26] <Debolaz> triad: The server edition is very reliable, stable, and generally one of the best server distributions to use.
[00:27] <Debolaz> triad: It does not install any desktop by default.
[00:27] <antonio_> i restart ubunt..
[00:27] <triad> i;m not interested in desktop or any other kinky non-interesting stuff
[00:27] <zykotick9> Debolaz: lol - see debian or rh for a "real" server distro
[00:27] <exutux> triad: server edition doesn't has X
[00:27] <triad> perfect
[00:27] <goth> chrome has some other issues
[00:27] <goth> I prefer firefox
[00:27] <exutux> triad: it's a SERVER! lol
[00:28] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Debian is fine, though I tend to strongly advice people against using RH. CentOS is somewhat better, but still a real pita to deal with compared to Ubuntu/Debian.
[00:28] <Alazare619> anyone used x2go?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> triad: you can install miimal ISO then install the desktop you desire
[00:28] <goth> Grecoo: hmm, so chrome has builtin flash?
[00:28] <goth> what flash/swf/whatever system are they using?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> goth: yes it will continue flash, firefox will probably do something similar
[00:29] <goth> anyway, I still have the same problem
[00:29] <exutux> zykotick9: rh isn't free and debian sure is stable but it doesn' has a dedicated server edition and it's so old for packages versions
[00:29] <goth> for now I'll just use dwhelper to download the flash
[00:29] <exutux> zykotick9: obv it's stable...it's a bit old
[00:29] <goth> and then play it from the harddisk
[00:29] <goth> that never crashes
[00:29] <zykotick9> exutux: if you think debian packages are "old" you've not used rhel...
[00:29] <Debolaz> zykotick9: RH based server distributions tend to require a lot higher level of knowledge about the inner workings of the system. If you want things to just work, Debian or Ubuntu is simply a lot better choice. And unless you are managing a large number of servers, there simply isn't any advantage *at all* with using RH.
[00:29] <goth> but it is soooo anoying
[00:29] <goth> gnight
[00:30] <zykotick9> Debolaz: i'd never personally use rh... but it's an enterprise grade OS
[00:30] <exutux> zykotick9: I've used rh and centOS too and I have some debian server
[00:31] <exutux> ant they has old "stable" packages it's real
[00:31] <Debolaz> zykotick9: "Enterprise grade" means nothing other than that they sell support contracts. Which Canonical does as well of course.
[00:31] <exutux> so I close OT...
[00:31] <exutux> zykotick9: and I repeat RH isn't free
[00:32] <brandonj> CentOS is free
[00:32] <triad> i prefer fedora for my notebook :)
[00:32] <exutux> brandonj: but isn't RH and it doesn't has support like RH
[00:32] <Cromat> I never could get use to fedora
[00:32] <brandonj> exutux: it's pretty much red hat.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> I'm using xpud more these days
[00:33] <triad> Cromat: what's so different ?
[00:33] <Debolaz> brandonj: And you get no (Official) support contracts for CentOS, which means I certainly wouldn't recommend it for "enterprise" use. And then what's the point? Using it for the sake of using it?
[00:33] <triad> i like fedora because it gets installed very easy with XFCE
[00:33] <triad> gnome crashes at me i think
[00:33] <triad> in fact, i never tested on this netbook
[00:33] <triad> i think i might definitly move to ubuntu
[00:33] <Cromat> triad: Not sure, I don't know rpm really and it just felt uncomfortable.  Might have to give it another try but in the past I had nothing but hardware problems
[00:34] <brandonj> Debolaz: I'm not advocating it's use, but if you want red hat for some reason, but can't afford the commercial product, use centos
[00:34] <Platypus-Man> is there an easy way to check network traffic in terminal? I just want some basic like % / emgabit used, when I search I only find advanced stuff like packet sniffing, web filtering etc
[00:34] <Cromat> tried: Most likely just bad luck on my part
[00:34] <triad> Cromat: hm..
[00:34] <triad> don't know what to say
[00:34] <exutux> brandonj: yeah but it doesn't matetr with discussion :D
[00:34] <Cromat> tried: I'll give it another go now
[00:34] <Cromat> been wanting to do a nothing install on empty drive
[00:34] <triad> i'll check on youtube to see how it works ubuntu on my netbook :)
[00:35] <Debolaz> brandonj: It's just that I can't think of any reason why one would want that. Ubuntu just seems like a superior choice as server compared to RH/CentOS in all but some very, very specific cases.
[00:35] <exutux> Platypus-Man: iftop
[00:35] <exutux> Platypus-Man: or iptraf
[00:35] <Cromat> triad: Plus the ubuntu community has been more help especially for my Asus Zenbook...
[00:36] <Cromat> lol -- tried: The requested URL /pub/linux/fedora/releases/17/Live/x86_64/Fedora-17-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso was not found on this server
[00:36] <triad> :))
[00:36] <triad> fedora doesn't want you
[00:36] <Cromat> triad: see bad luck :)
[00:36] <Platypus-Man> exutux: thanks
[00:37] <Cromat> just a bad mirror going now
[00:37] <brandonj> Debolaz: I tend to agree, but I wouldn't say Ubuntu "blows away" RHEL.  Debian might, though.
[00:37] <Cromat> Does anyone here use SublimeText2? Is it worth the 59.99?
[00:37] <Debolaz> Cromat: Imho, yes.
[00:38] <exutux> Platypus-Man: not at all :)
[00:38] <Debolaz> Cromat: I use it on Mac, Windows, and Linux and it's my preferred editor in all those environments.
[00:38] <Cromat> Debolaz: Is the license good across all os's
[00:38] <dj_segfault> How does SublimeText2 compare to, say, JEdit?
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: Yes.
[00:39] <Cromat> Debolaz: I have a mac book pro at work, and I use only linux at home
[00:39] <exutux> brandonj: what is the difference from debian and ubuntu?
[00:39] <Cromat> Debolaz: cool, then I might have to get it
[00:39] <exutux> brandonj: by using them for server?
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: Keep in mind that you can evaluate sublime for free.
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: So you can see if you like it before you buy it.
[00:39] <Cromat> yea downloading it now
[00:39] <Debolaz> dj_segfault: Never tried jedit.
[00:40] <cschrider> hello
[00:40] <dj_segfault> http://www.jedit.org
[00:40] <Asad2005> How can i get rid off disabled sources enteries aft dist upgrade
[00:40] <Debolaz> dj_segfault: Given that jedit is written in Java, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that sublime is probably more snappy. :)
[00:40] <brandonj> exutux: debian stable undergoes more rigorous testing and auditing, imo, and it seems (to me) to be more stable running in a server environment
[00:40] <exutux> brandonj: for example if you need a web server... why you choose debian instead of Ubuntu server?
[00:41] <cschrider> I just installed 12.04 and now I am trying to get a netgear MA311 wireless card to work.
[00:41] <Debolaz> Cromat: Btw, you can install sublime through apt-get: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/sublime-text-20-stable-released-ppa.html
[00:41] <dj_segfault> Debolaz: That's a safe assumption, yes.
[00:41] <exutux> brandonj: how I said above... debian is old, for that reason is considered stable
[00:41] <Cromat> Debolaz: Cool I just downloaded the tarball
[00:42] <triad> I have 1 GB DDR3, 1 GHz, ASUS EEE PC Seashell Series X1015BX - how it will work ?
[00:42] <brandonj> exutux: debian isn't 'old'?
[00:42] <exutux> but it doeasn't matter with server edition
[00:42] <Cromat> Debolaz: But the ppa might have unity integration by default
[00:42] <Debolaz> Cromat: Installing through the PPA has the advantage that it will integrate it properly into your system.
[00:42] <cschrider> the card is installed in the machine but I don't think it was detected.
[00:42] <Cromat> true
[00:42] <exutux> brandonj: debian packages are older than Ubuntu packages
[00:42] <cschrider> there doesn't seem to be any wlan networking loaded
[00:43] <Debolaz> triad: Ubuntu should run fine on that. I have a rather old netbook with 1 GB RAM myself, and Ubuntu has no problems running on it.
[00:43] <Draugauth> Anyone know how I can team my NIC connections?
[00:43] <Debolaz> triad: Remember to install zram though. :)
[00:43] <brandonj> exutux: in debian stable that's often true, but the same will happen when you're on the third year of an LTS ubuntu release as well.  Bleeding edge packages aren't typically a concern when you're running a server.
[00:43] <exutux> triad: if you want a light dm use lubuntu-desktop or XFCE
[00:43] <Artemis3> Debolaz, the fact that something is new, begs for being more careful, older stuff tends to be better supported, you have to check and double check each component support with linux before purchase
[00:44] <zykotick9> Artemis3: +1
[00:44] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:44] <triad> xfce much better. i'll think about it. right now i will still use fedora as desktop and ubuntu as server :)
[00:44] <Debolaz> Artemis3: Yes, but Ubuntu tends to have among the best documentation available for what hardware is supported.
[00:45] <Debolaz> triad: xubuntu gives you a nice XFCE environment out of the box.
[00:45] <exutux> Artemis3: we speaking about servers
[00:45] <Artemis3> triad, indeed, consider Xubuntu which comes with XFCE by default
[00:45] <maheanuu> exutux, can I use  -t *.* and recover everything that I have deleted in the past few days on this drive that I want to recover the books on, it would be better if I couls do that as I have lost other stuff in this circle jerk
[00:46] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:46] <maheanuu> That way I think that i can recover drive to drive and never see my system drive on this machine
[00:46] <exutux> maheanuu: yes you can
[00:47] <exutux> maheanuu: foremost has alot of options
[00:47] <Artemis3> exutux, what about servers?
[00:48] <exutux> Artemis3: discussion was about choose between debian and ubuntu server
[00:48] <maheanuu> extux, being rather new and really old, I can really get myself in a lot of trouble rather rapidly
[00:48] <Vyk2> anyone know a program like linx for ubuntu?
[00:48] <Artemis3> exutux, i believe someone asked about an eeepc surely not a server ;)
[00:48] <W4sp> Vyk2: Is it Lynx?
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: yeah you have to read above..more above :D
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: btw was all OT
[00:49] <Debolaz> exutux: Context is overrated.
[00:49] <brandonj> Vyk2: you're going to have to describe what linx is
[00:49] <exutux> Debolaz: right
[00:49] <Vyk2> W4sp: a program that allows you to stress test your CPU giving you a value in Gflops
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: so forget my sentence :D
[00:50] <brandonj> Vyk2: you could just try to compile libreoffice
[00:50] <W4sp> Vyk2: Thanks for clarification.
[00:50] <Artemis3> exutux, you mean your ot talk about debian vs ubuntu? well we can try this in offtopic :)
[00:50] <Vyk2> i'd need a program that allows me to compare CPUs in gflops
[00:50] <exutux> Artemis3: yeah I just said that
[00:51] <exutux> Vyk2: stress
[00:51] <Vyk2> i want to get rid of windows, so i don't want to boot that useless OS just to do that
[00:51] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:51] <exutux> or cpuburn uhmm
[00:51] <exutux> !info cpuburn
[00:51] <Vyk2> i'm not actually trying to stress test the CPU, i would like to get a gflop value out of it
[00:52] <cschrider> so how does this work? do I need to be in a queue or something to ask questions?
[00:52] <brandonj> cschrider: just ask your question :)
[00:52] <Debolaz> cschrider: Just ask.
[00:53] <Elchzard> cschrider: Nope, just ask away and if someone can answer they will
[00:53] <W4sp> cschrider: Just ask your question, providing details.
[00:53] <cschrider> ok, I just install 12.04 and now I am trying to get it to work with my netgear MA311 wireless card
[00:53] <Vyk2> exutux: oh i see what you meant there
[00:54] <cschrider> it looks like it isn't even detecting the card. there isn't any indication of anything wlan being installed
[00:54] <Artemis3> exutux, for non support talk please join #ubuntu-offtopic, repeat the question there :)
[00:54] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:54] <cschrider> I tried installing linux-wlan-ng but I'm sure what to do with it next
[00:54] <W4sp> cschrider: Did you check what dmesg has to offer?
[00:55] <exutux> Vyk2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004406
[00:56] <exutux> Artemis3: I have no question and I have my own opinion about that thanks
[00:56] <cschrider> sorry, I didn't -- I'm kind of a noob at this though I have some experience. Networking has always just worked so I didn't have to mess with it
[00:56] <cschrider> looking at dmesg now
[00:56] <DrManhattan> whats the difference in CPU load for fakeraid vs software raid?
[00:57] <W4sp> Draugauth: Is that's bonding ...? Have two NICs that seemling are one interface?
[00:57] <Draugauth> fakeraid and software raid are basically the same.  I think you mean hardware raid (where the controller handles all the raid duties) and fakeraid where the system handles the raid duties
[00:58] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Could be.  Intell calls it Teaming but yes where 2 or more nics act as 1 interface
[00:58] <Artemis3> DrManhattan, fakeraid in linux is not a good idea, to say the least; even if they had the same cpu usage; you are better off with soft, for reliability, and portability, or even options
[00:58] <DrManhattan> yeah and I can mix raid types with software raid
[00:59] <brandonj> klkjklkjklkjklk
[00:59] <brandonj> dammit
[00:59] <jpmh> I have 12.4 and have used SETTINGS?DISPLAY LOCK but it does not lock, why not
[00:59] <DrManhattan> ie /boot=raid1 /=raid1 swap=raid0
[00:59] <W4sp> Draugauth: You can load balance them.
[00:59] <DrManhattan> thansk Artemis3
[00:59] <W4sp> Draugauth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:59] <Draugauth> DrManhattan:  I hear ZFS is very good to use.   I plan on testing it out at some point but right now my raid controller handles all my raid duties instead of the filesystem/fs
[00:59] <cschrider> ok, what am I looking for in dmesg?
[00:59] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Ok thank you
[00:59] <brandonj> Draugauth: I used to use something called ifenslave to accomplish teaming, but that was a long time ago
[01:00] <Draugauth> brandonj:  Alright I will look at ifenslave as well.  Thank you
[01:00] <ratcheer> When I worked on big systems, we used a combination of hardware and software RAID
[01:00] <W4sp> Draugauth: brandonj Yes, that's what you should digest.
[01:00] <cschrider> W4sp: what am I looking for in dmesg?  I don't see anyting related to wlan, MA311 or prism drivers
[01:01] <brandonj> cschrider: is that a pci or usb wireless card?
[01:01] <cschrider> brandonj: pci
[01:01] <W4sp> cschrider: YOu can see what devices are detected. That is, even if there is no driver it tells you it what hardware is available. Among other things, of course.
[01:01] <brandonj> cschrider: does it show up in 'lspci'?
[01:03] <nasa01> W4sp, howdy -- http://pastebin.com/deiT9RUK  && https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/205302 (I did come on the other day, but missed you)
[01:03] <DrManhattan> Artemis3, you know what else - I forgot I have mixed drives - two 320bg WD drives but one with 8mb and one with 16mb cache
[01:03] <cschrider> brandonj: no, it does not seem to be in lspci
[01:03] <DrManhattan> this is not a problem with software eaid
[01:03] <DrManhattan> raid
[01:04] <W4sp> nasa01: YEah, the dbus issue.
[01:05]  * nasa01 hopes there is a solution out there -- but not holding his breath
[01:06]  * W4sp wonders if nasa01 has inhaled by now. 
[01:06] <W4sp> nasa01: I don't have a solution. I mentioned in this channel you may contact the author.
[01:07] <nasa01> It's all good.  I thought I would just close the loop
[01:07]  * W4sp gets very nosy now.
[01:07] <W4sp> nasa01: WHat was it...?
[01:08] <Artemis3> DrManhattan, soft raid is very forgiving, of course you will have reduced performance, but even green drives will work (albeit slowly, and you should disable that parking stuff lol)
[01:08] <servvs> well that was fun, I just got some crazy errors after updating
[01:08] <servvs> took me about 2 hours to get my system running agin
[01:08] <DrManhattan> Artemis3, reduced performance vs "fakeraid"?
[01:09] <nasa01> ??
[01:09] <W4sp> nasa01: Well. Did you find a solution?
[01:10] <nasa01> W4sp, I put a question on launchpad, but I haven't tried contacting the developers directly -- and no I live with the problem still today
[01:10] <nasa01> :{
[01:10]  * DrManhattan gives Artemis3 a violent shake
[01:10] <W4sp> nasa01: That's a shame. I have no solution either. :-(
[01:11] <Draugauth> Is there a program for seeing disk and ethernet utilization?
[01:12] <W4sp> Draugauth: iotop...?
[01:12] <Draugauth> W4sp:  will that let me see how much utilization is being done the raid controller or the R6?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Draugauth: ntop for the network
[01:13] <Vyk2> exutux: this program seems great but it seems they discontinued the project.. the donload is not available anymore
[01:13] <Draugauth> ActionParsnip:  thank you
[01:15] <W4sp> Draugauth: It shows you th e disk utilisation, for network activity you may find ntop useful. But it is huge.
[01:16] <Draugauth> well I'm trying to figure out where the hangup is.   I haven't bonded the nics together yet but I'm not even hitting 50% of what 1GB should be.
[01:17] <Bethy> hey could anyone help me? i have a samsung n130 netbook running Ubuntu 12.04 and the wireless internet connection switches on and off. i am a new Ubuntu user, any help would be muchly appreciated ^__^
[01:18] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Be careful you're not hitting the power switch for the wireless nic.  Happens all the time.
[01:19] <Bethy> no thats not the problem, i had windows xp running on this before, and i never had this problem
[01:19] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Are you losing power or getting disconnected?
[01:20] <Bethy> getting disconnected from wifi hub
[01:21] <blazingtruth> hi all, i just downloaded ubuntu today (win7 xps 15z) and i'm not entirely sure how to get dual boot starting. i want win7 as primary
[01:21] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Do you have an android phone?  if so download wifi analyzer and watch the signal strength on the router.  It might be crapping out on you.  Can also use that app to find less clogged channels.
[01:22] <Draugauth> blazingtruth:  http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[01:22] <Bethy> i have a iphone
[01:22] <jrib> blazingtruth: install ubuntu.  During install you can choose to keep windows around.  Afterwards,  you can change what boots by default (see ubottu)
[01:22] <jrib> !grub | blazingtruth
[01:22] <Draugauth> Bethy:  try seeing if you can find an app that will pick up Wireless APs and show their signal strength.
[01:22] <Bethy> okies
[01:23] <cfhowlett> blazingtruth: back up your windows data, take your time, follow the dualboot tutorial and happy buntu times...
[01:23] <Draugauth> W4sp:  How do you start iotop?  I installed it but can't find it with the Unity hub
[01:23] <W4sp> Draugauth: Just sudo iotop
[01:24] <Draugauth> W4sp: kk ty
[01:26] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Any ideas on how to speed up a R6 array using a hardware controller?
[01:26] <W4sp> Draugauth: Sorry, no. The ntop is a big one and requires a daemon to run, btw.
[01:27] <Draugauth> W4sp:  That explains why it quit.  What daemon do I need to run for it?
[01:27] <maheanuu> exutux, I am trying to write the command line for foremost, and do I need to put in the -h  after the -v?  Also, the drive I want to recover the files from is /dev/sdb1 and the one I want to use as the drop is /dev/sdc1 and I am not sure what all the files were in the directory but they were text and audio (mp3) for the most part.  can I use as the directory  *ebooks* as a wild card?
[01:28] <W4sp> Draugauth: Did you install it? You are being asked for a password that you later need to attach a client to it.
[01:28] <W4sp> Draugauth: I don't have it installed on the system I'm using right now.
[01:28] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Ok I'll work on it later.  Guess I should focus on trying to improve the speed of the R6 array ;)
[01:30] <W4sp> Draugauth: Is it for a server, eg many io requests from different users?
[01:30] <maheanuu> exutux, I know that I have to be sudo to run, but I will NOT run it until I am sure that my command line is absolutely correct as I want to recoup as much as I can
[01:31] <Bethy> Draugauth: there doesnt seem to be any problems with the router.
[01:31] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Home server.   will have 10+ devices connecting to it at any given time.   Trying to get myself caught up on what has happened in the IT world ;)  Also got WHS coming in next week.
[01:31] <Draugauth> Bethy:  So the signal strength is staying steady right?
[01:32] <W4sp> Draugauth: I trust you are aware that 2008 requires 2GB to idle. ;-)
[01:32] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Server has 8GB of ram.
[01:35] <Draugauth> W4sp:  the server is a Core 2 Duo X6800 on an Asus P5N-SLI motherboard with 8GB of ram (16GB was just to expensive lol) Highpoint Rocketraid 3560 Raid Controller, and a few other goodies
[01:35] <W4sp> Draugauth: All this to proxy IRC on freenode? Just joking.
[01:36] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Well I am gunna use the system to setup a cloud service for friends and family, provide backup services for friends and family, and provide multimedia to the household.
[01:37] <W4sp> Draugauth: Any chance to assist Bethy ? I wonder if it is a powe management thing. On OpenBSD there's a ifconfig <if> -nopowersave that does not seem to exist on Ubuntu.
[01:38] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Well I'm waiting to her from her if the signal strength is staying steady.   Not sure what else.  My laptop that had linux on it got stolen about a year ago ;(
[01:38] <W4sp> Draugauth: There's a way to disable power management per device in a config file but can't remember where it is. :-(
[01:39] <Bethy> Draugauth: the signal strength is nice and steady
[01:39] <W4sp> Draugauth: That sounds exciting. Will you use pf as a firewall?
[01:40] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Hrmm  have you tried loading a different driver for the wireless?   It shouldn't be dropping the connection if the signal strength is steady.  Let me look something up
[01:41] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Not right now.  I have a nice router to handle that and 2 24 port gigabit managed switches coming to play with as well
[01:41] <Bethy> Draugauth:  awww thankyou, im new to Ubuntu, i really appreciate this ^__^
[01:41] <W4sp> Bethy: Do you ahve the Realtek RTL8192E WiFi card in you laptop?
[01:42]  * cfhowlett bets she's got broadcom
[01:42] <Bethy> W4ap: how would one find that out? :)
[01:42] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Disable IPV6 on it and see if that helps.
[01:43] <Bethy> Draugauth: how do i do that?
[01:43] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Click on the network icon and click configure network
[01:43] <Bethy> :S
[01:43] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Then go to wireless if memory serves
[01:44] <Bethy> ah okies, ty
[01:47] <Kre10s_> make: avr32-gcc: Command not found... the only avr package in synaptic is gcc-avr. where do i get avr32-gcc from? is this an alias to something else?
[01:48] <Bethy> Draugauth:  done it, deleted them, and re connected to the network, just waiting to see if it stops, thankyou for helping
[01:48] <Draugauth> Bethy:  No problem.  If it doesn't we'll try checking the drivers and see if we can find you updated ones or not.
[01:50] <Bethy> Draugauth: ahh, no luck, it done it again lol
[01:51] <Draugauth> Bethy:  dang ok click the Unity icon in the top right and search for "additional drivers"
[01:52] <Bethy> Draugauth:  i tried that and there was no additional drivers available. (a friend helpd with that lol)
[01:53] <Draugauth> Bethy:  not sure what else then.   Someone asked if you had a broadcom.   Is the laptop setup for dual boot so you still have windows?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> Bethy: broadcom: yes or no?
[01:54] <W4sp> Bethy: Could you let us know your WiFi card. Open a terminal with Alt+Ctrl+t and type in lspci
[01:54]  * W4sp cfhowlett may now lose or win the bet. 
[01:54] <zykotick9> Bethy: "lspci | grep -i network" might show you less output (might not show wireless though :(
[01:54] <AcidRain> ill say this. fedora 17 is nice now that i got the MATE-desktop super pimped out.
[01:54] <Bethy> Draugauth:  no, just Ubuntu.
[01:54] <Bethy> just a sec...
[01:55] <AcidRain> but... i just dont like fedora. its not as good as ubuntu. what is everyones favorite flavor?
[01:55] <AcidRain> i want to install something better.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: lubuntu imho
[01:55] <AcidRain> also i will say this, ubuntu and windows xp suck at handling my wireless driver. fedora is epic with it
[01:55] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, why do you like lubuntu?
[01:55] <AcidRain> imma google it now
[01:55] <cfhowlett> W4sp: so it's broadcom then?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: because when you sk it to do something, it just does it and doesn't dance around
[01:56] <W4sp> cfhowlett: I don't know yet. We're awaiting the output of lspci with eager anticipation.
[01:56] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, what seems to be the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu?
[01:57] <AcidRain> im lookinng to do alot of perl programming
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: it uses LXDE as the desktop and openbox as the WM
[01:57] <AcidRain> the gedit in fedora is even down graded from that of ubuntu
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
[01:57] <FloodBot1> Bethy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <Vyk2> i see that my CPU speed is changing between1.6 ghz to 3.3 ghz
[01:57] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, I am trying to understand and write the command line for foremost, and I am not understanding everything that it wants nor the format of the line, could you help me on this?
[01:57] <W4sp> !pastebin
[01:57] <Vyk2> why is that?
[01:58] <Draugauth> going afk
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Vyk2: it willclock up and down as needed
[01:59] <kameron> is it possible to have one machine provide an X session for a completely separate set of keyboard/mouse/monitor? for multi users at once?
[01:59] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, so its good as if not better than ubuntu, especially since it uses LXDE, which appears to be close to gnome2
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: better is an opinion, so is never concrete
[02:00] <AcidRain> lol
[02:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, so what is your opinion?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: lxde rocks, try it
[02:00] <AcidRain> honestly, cause im rly gonna format now if u say its better
[02:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, then ill brb in about 1 hr ;)
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: ill be right here.
[02:01] <DrManhattan> whats the command to restart networking in 12.04
[02:02] <Vyk2> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tTEhwriR
[02:02] <DrManhattan> the modern equiv of /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: sudo service networking restart
[02:02] <AcidRain2012> omg. 10min download
[02:02] <Bethy> thanks for all the help but i have to go x
[02:02] <Vyk2> the 1st one wan @ 1.6ghz and the problem size doesnt matter, cause i made several b4 all with 10000 and 1.6ghz
[02:03] <Vyk2> god 40 gflops sucks so much
[02:04] <W4sp> Ooops. Now we will never find out cfhowlett
[02:05] <cfhowlett> W4sp: dang.
[02:07] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, stop: Unknown Instance
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: then use status instead
[02:07] <Shazer[2]> Hi.
[02:07] <Shazer[2]> :)
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> i have downloaded Sublime Text 2, and I've extracted it now I need to run the binary.
[02:08] <DrManhattan> whats the console app to config your networking
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> I've done ./sublime_text but it says no such file or directory.
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> Double clicking also won't open it.
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: are you in the same folder as the file?
[02:09] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, yes, I am.
[02:10] <cvr> Shazer[2]: I just downloaded and extracted the file works fine from here
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> Any idea why it would say that?
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> Hmm :(
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: and is the file marked as executable?, you can check with: ls -l ./sublime_text
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> That's all I tried too.
[02:11] <Shazer[2]> shannon@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Sublime Text 2$ ls -l ./sublime_text -rwxr-xr-x 1 shannon shannon 7972576 Jul 14 10:07 ./sublime_text
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: looks fine
[02:12] <Shazer[2]> But then
[02:12] <Shazer[2]> shannon@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Sublime Text 2$ ./sublime_text bash: ./sublime_text: No such file or directory
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: does it run ok with gksudo?
[02:13] <DrManhattan> yeah sudo service stop doesn't work
[02:13] <cvr> Shazer[2]: did u get the 64/32 bit that suits your install?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: use TAB to complete the service name
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> cvr: I think you got it
[02:13] <Shazer[2]> I got, Python 2.7.3 compressed source tarball (for Linux, Unix or Mac OS X)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: what is the output of:   uname -a; file ./sublime_text
[02:14] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/3TV9C2ke
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> cvr: you win
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> What's the problem?
[02:15] <cvr> Shazer[2]: get the 64bit download
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: you have a 32bit ap when your ubuntu is 64bit
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> I don't see a 64-bit link?
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> Oh, right nevermind xD
[02:18] <Shazer[2]> Right now..
[02:18] <Shazer[2]> Is there anyway I can get some files from my windows partition on ubuntu?
[02:18] <dj_segfault> In 10.04 (Gnome 2) is there a way to get X to redetect monitors without logging out?  I hook up a TV to the external port, but if I logged in without that hooked up...
[02:19] <dylan> Shazer[2]:You should be able to mount the windows partition
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> dylan, what do I need to do?
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> I'm completely noob to this.
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: Ubuntu can read NTFS natively. If you used wubi you can use the /hosts folder
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> Oh
[02:19] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: burning to disk
[02:19] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: oh its done ;)
[02:20] <dylan> Shazer[2]: when you open your home folder, you should see something under devices like "64GB Filesystem" or however big your windows partiton is
[02:20] <Shazer[2]> Thanks :)
[02:21] <dylan> Shazer[2]
[02:21] <dylan> whoops
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: could just use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-2?field.series_filter=precise
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> i wonder if there is a way to take every single bit of configuration related to a certain program ex postfix, ices, mumble, esc, and put them onto lubuntu. just in the even that ActionPartition's opinion is right about it, and it, i quote: "rapes" ;p
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> fedora was fast, but poor software center handling, and in my opinion, functionality was low on linux part, and it was hard to do normal ubuntu things
[02:24] <dylan> I had the same experience
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: with lubuntu, during the install, it is already failing to connect to the router. :/
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> fedora is better here once more, but i can cope with it
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: its the same OS as Ubuntu, just a different DE/WM thats all
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: so if you had that with Ubuntu, it will be the same in Lubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[02:30] <dylan> Then again I was using fedora 14, not the new one
[02:30] <dj_segfault> ActionParsnip: I checked out Sublime since it was mentioned here earlier.  Very impressive.  It seems to have all the key features I like about JEdit, though the documentation is much lighter.
[02:30] <Hijaked> boom
[02:31] <vaks3> anyone know how I can check what kind of vid card my computer will accept I have a desktop and want to buy a new one
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> dj_segfault: cool, if you like it use it :)
[02:31] <vaks3> but I dunno if its PCI 2.0 or w/e
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: ouch....
[02:31] <dj_segfault> ActionParsnip: are you associated with that project, or you just like it?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> vaks3: ask in #hardware
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: so im gussing kubuntu is KXDE and x is XXDE?
[02:32] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> dj_segfault: I don't even use it, I use leafpad and nano. A user was simply asking about it
[02:32] <cfhowlett> *xfce*
[02:32] <dylan> vaks3: try #hardware
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: KDE and XFCE, but yes
[02:32] <dj_segfault> vaks3: If you google the motherboard you should be able to find out
[02:32] <vaks3> thx guys
[02:32] <pnorman> For some reason when I do apt-get no-install-recommends remove libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 it wants to *install* dbus-x11 as well as remove parts of postgresql. How could I find out why it wants to do these actions?
[02:32] <dylan> np
[02:33] <pnorman> er, -- in front of no-install-recommends
[02:33] <dj_segfault> pnorman: Could that mean it thinks that package is no longer being used?  Can you try Synaptic and see what it says?
[02:34] <pnorman> dj_segfault: the list for automatically installed and no longer required is a different list
[02:34] <pnorman> dj_segfault: How would I use synaptic?
[02:34] <dj_segfault> Do you have GUI or is this a server?
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> just cause its a server, doesnt mean theres no gui ;) just sayin
[02:35] <IDWMaster> Hi. I was installing Ubuntu on a computer which previously had Windows on it.
[02:35] <dylan> my server has a gui...
[02:35] <dj_segfault> AcidRain2012: Agreed.  I can't imagine setting up a server without GUI but a lot of people here do.
[02:35] <IDWMaster> I used the installer provided to attempt to resize the partition
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> dylan: then its a desktop OS
[02:35] <IDWMaster> It was resizing for about a few hours
[02:35] <IDWMaster> then stopped
[02:35] <IDWMaster> and said that the resize operation had failed
[02:35] <IDWMaster> I tried to reboot the computer off of Windows
[02:36] <IDWMaster> it would not boot
[02:36] <pnorman> No GUI. I'm not actually sure off hand if I installed with a -server image, but I don't think that's what you're really interested in
[02:36] <rypervenche> dj_segfault: All you need are SSH and vim, nuff said :)
[02:36] <dj_segfault> IDWMaster: Did you intend to REPLACE windows or install alongside of it.
[02:36] <IDWMaster> The drive no longer shows in partition editor
[02:36] <IDWMaster> Install alongside it
[02:36] <IDWMaster> I selected that option
[02:36] <dylan> why does it need to lack a gui?
[02:36] <IDWMaster> There was an error during resize
[02:36] <IDWMaster> and now all data on the drive seems to be lost
[02:36] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: don't panic.
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: more than likely u didnt. that screen is very tricky and has honestly tricked me in the past. fucked up cause i lost everything.
[02:36] <IDWMaster> Is there any way to recover it?
[02:36] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: DO NOT panic.
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> it needs to be in big bold letters. WILL ERASE ALL
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> dylan: securty, resources and boot time are 3 I can think of quiickly
[02:37] <IDWMaster> It is in big red letters
[02:37] <IDWMaster> I didn't choose that option
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: use yorbackups
[02:37] <IDWMaster> Resize failed because system ran out of RAM
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: oh rly
[02:37] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: reboot your ubuntu disk and see if the windows partition is still there.
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: must just been to blazed :P
[02:37] <IDWMaster> It doesn't show up in partition editor or Nautilus
[02:37] <dylan> those are just reasons not to have one, there is no law that states "Servers must lack a Graphical User INterface"
[02:37] <dj_segfault> Many sysadmins feel the more software you have installed, the more potential for security problems, and the more daemons running the same thing
[02:38] <IDWMaster> Are there any tools I can use to recover the data?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: it MIGHT be gone.  Boot your windows disk and run windows repair
[02:38] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: foremost possibly, backups will easily restore the data
[02:38] <IDWMaster> This particular system was never backed up
[02:39] <IDWMaster> I've tried testdisk
[02:39] <IDWMaster> can't find the partition
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: why did you not run a full backup before doing something so drastic?
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: is your data not important?
[02:39] <IDWMaster> Installed Ubuntu on so many computers before, it's never had a problem partitioning
[02:39]  * cfhowlett ...not gonna say it, not gonna say it ...
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Is there a way in Ubuntu to recover such lost data?
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Or should I contact a forensics specialist
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Or should I contact a forensics specialist?
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: the default can, just install foremost
[02:40] <dylan> IDWMaster: try somethign like scalper
[02:40] <dylan> scalpel*
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: you have learned the value of backup the ardest way.
[02:40] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: a forensics specialist can only find out what you looked at, and what you did. not the contents of files
[02:40] <dylan> you want file recovery
[02:40] <AcidRain2012> after a partition that is. that is to my understanding what i read from a FBI book
[02:40] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: imagine IT Tech Yoda: ALWAYS back up your data, you must!
[02:41] <pnorman> I guess what I want to do is figure out the dependency connection between libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 and the other packages
[02:41] <dylan> That's why I have so many cloud accounts
[02:41] <AcidRain2012> cfhowlett: it would be: "Yoda: back up your data always, you must! uhmmmumm
[02:41] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:41] <dylan> Ubuntu One, Dropbox, Pogoplug, SkyDrive, Icloud
[02:41] <dylan> and a personal server
[02:41] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: did you try the links that ubottu suggested?
[02:42] <AcidRain2012> pnorman: for what?
[02:42] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: whoops, wrong person
[02:43] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: although a data recovery company could likely recover the contents of files, assuming you didn't do anything like encrypt the disk or use fakeraid
[02:44] <AcidRain2012> pnorman: how is that possible? i read in the fbi book, they carry around a briefcase that can clone your hdd. then take it back to the lab, and pull up allocated asm data and hex positioning in some type of table and can accurately guestimate what you did
[02:47] <Platypus-Man> when Challenger exploded, they managed to locate enough of the hdd platters, and fix them up enough to extract data... so yeah, when you can't blow it up with rocket fuel your data can pretty much always be extracted if you throw enough money at it
[02:47] <IDWMaster> Can this company do it? http://www.securedatarecovery.com/hard-drive-data-recovery.html
[02:47] <IDWMaster> Data was lost on an NTFS partition
[02:47] <Debolaz> Which is why you need encryption if you want to really prevent someone from getting your data.
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> Platypus-Man: but the difference here is, that was rocket fuel, this is a repartitioning and format
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> not only a repartitioning, but a fail
[02:48] <IDWMaster> How much money do I need to throw at it?
[02:48] <pnorman> IDWMaster: I've heard that recovery prices start at around $250-$500
[02:49] <CerebralVortex> IDWMaster: At that price you need to decide how valuable that data actually is...
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: do you have access to tax payer money?
[02:50] <IDWMaster> I wish
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> yeah your screwed
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:50] <pnorman> ah, i figured out why it wants to remove parts of postgresql. postgis depends on gtk
[02:50] <CerebralVortex> IDWMaster: I had a friend use this before not sure if it will apply to your situation : http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizard/recover-repartitioned-drives.htm
[02:50] <cfhowlett> *you're* your
[02:51] <AcidRain2012> cfhowlett: cmon man. dont be one of those people
[02:52] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012: OMG.  I AM one of those people!
[02:52] <CerebralVortex> lol
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> noooooooooooooo your to far gone
[02:52] <malucious> can someone help me with my canon printer? Interesting problem
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> dont correct my nooooooo, your, or to
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> its internet
[02:52] <CerebralVortex> AcidRain2012: lol
[02:52] <cfhowlett> malucious: state the issue
[02:53] <Hijaked> word
[02:54] <malucious> cfhowlett, the yellow tank is empty on my printer. in windows i get a prompt that allows me to ignore and continue printing my document. in ubuntu I get no prompt so the printer will not finish the job
[02:55] <[Toto]> hello my su command no work i got this Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory
[02:55] <[Toto]> i m talk abour su user
[02:55] <cfhowlett> malucious: nice!  what a great ubuntu challenge!  *Obviously, I don't have the answer...*
[02:56] <cfhowlett> malucious: does Canon provide a printer driver for this device?
[02:56] <malucious> cfhowlett, i haven't checked their site.
[02:57] <cfhowlett> malucious: recommended.  a Canon driver probably works better than a 3rd party driver.
[02:59] <[Toto]> http://pastie.org/4458677
[02:59] <malucious> cfhowlett, just checked their site. no support
[02:59] <[Toto]> anyone give me a hand ?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> malucious: ok.  stay in this channel and re-ask every 15 minutes or so.  also do a search for linux+ubuntu+your printer
[03:00] <malucious> cfhowlett, alright. Thanks for the help though
[03:00] <BIOS_Update> Hi, Is there any BIOS update tool for ubuntu (using phoenix award bios)?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> malucious: best of luck
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> Cussrent BIOS version is 1, from 2005.
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> Current**
[03:01] <cfhowlett> BIOS_Update: dell had one ...
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> I got a Medion PC.
[03:02] <kexibq> hi guys, i have a machine running ubuntu at work, would it be possible to connect to it from home and use irc remotely?
[03:02] <kexibq> same session on both machines sort of
[03:02] <cfhowlett> kexibq: yes:  vinagre
[03:03] <zykotick9> kexibq: i use irssi in a screen session remotely on a regular basis, right now infact...
[03:03] <Calahan> kexibq just ssh to your work marchine and use irc?
[03:04] <Calahan> a lot of irc shell clients out there wonder which is best one
[03:06] <nabawe> test
[03:06] <Calahan> works
[03:06] <nabawe> Ty
[03:06] <Calahan> Enjoy
[03:06] <nabawe> Hellow Underbunty
[03:06] <nabawe> Underbuntuworld
[03:06] <maheanuu> Is there any sensible way to learn the command line?
[03:06] <nabawe> the Man pages
[03:07] <nabawe> also these webs are pretty good
[03:07] <Calahan> maheanuu well each team you need to do somth from command line you learn it :P
[03:07] <maheanuu> The harder I work the more in the crap I get
[03:07] <nabawe> http://ss64.com/bash/
[03:07] <Calahan> maheanuu what you mean?
[03:08] <nabawe> and the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface
[03:08] <maheanuu> I have NO team, I am the only one on an island that uses Ub untu and every one else uses windoze or Crapple
[03:08] <nabawe> check the chart at the bot
[03:09] <maheanuu> I have a real problem with an external disk that stored data and the entire directory somewhere I have no idea where
[03:10] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: You can use the find command to find that file.  Go to the drive and type "find . -name thenameofyourdirectory"
[03:10] <maheanuu> I am trying to use foremost to recover all my books, ebooks, and audio books that dissappeared this morning and I cant make heads or tails out of the command line for foremost
[03:11] <maheanuu> It ISN"T There
[03:11] <maheanuu> Nothing is anywhere on the drive so I must be deleted.....
[03:11] <boolean> evening... looking for a cli based file indexing tool ... anyone ? ( besides doing a massif find and grep script )
[03:12] <Calahan> maheanuu well maybe you accidently deleted files? Imho they aren't there if you cannot find them? Or searching in wrong location.
[03:12] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: Are you absolutely sure the drive is mounted, and you're not just looking at the mount point directory?
[03:12] <maheanuu> dj_seg
[03:12] <maheanuu> Yes the drive is mounted and available, I will not write to it until I recover these files
[03:13] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: Good move.
[03:14] <maheanuu> dj_segfault, I have no idea how it happened, I had used a cut and paste as I was doubling up on files that I had moved from a directory to a sub directory
[03:14] <boolean> maheanuu: ensure that it is read only when mounted to guarantee no change
[03:15]  * boolean is looking for a specific tool that does partition/file recover for ext3 ... gimme a sec
[03:15] <maheanuu> or should I say directories as I have abouty 300 gigs of books there
[03:15] <maheanuu> I am using NTFS
[03:16] <boolean> oh ... then look for any windows style undelete tool
[03:16] <boolean> the net is full of them
[03:16] <FreeFog> Hey there
[03:16] <FreeFog> Any one is versed in the Advanced Format specification from Western Digital?
[03:17] <maheanuu> I use NTFS as every one in my area and I am talking about 5 islands in a group and then the capitol a hundred fifty miles away and they all speak french or tahitian and not a one knows anything about linux
[03:17] <Myrth> hi, i'm trying to skip fsck on boot, and edited the kernel line in boot, added fastboot. but it still auto-runs fsck. what else can i try? thanks
[03:17] <cfhowlett> FreeFog: greetings
[03:17] <FreeFog> Heey there Cfhowlett
[03:18] <FreeFog> any of the Ubuntu IRC branches specializes on fstab and harddrives?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> FreeFog: what's your ubuntu issue?
[03:18] <maheanuu> They have peeps in Papeete who use linux, but very few speak english and even tho I speak French I do not speak or understand technicial french
[03:18] <boolean> Myrth: if during boot, your system is requesting a fsck, you should let it
[03:18] <boolean> Myrth: there is a "dirty
[03:18] <Myrth> boolean, it is a "has gone 224 days without fsck"
[03:18] <boolean> " bit on the fs causing it to launch
[03:19] <newbie|2> Myrth: edit your fstab file
[03:19] <Myrth> boolean: it is more important for me right now to have the server up, than have the profilactic check, which can take hours
[03:19] <Myrth> newbie|2: i can't get to it, because i can't boot the server
[03:19] <boolean> maheanuu: may I suggest then you download hiren's boot cd, boot your box off of that and use the recovery tools there...
[03:19] <newbie|2> use a live cd
[03:20] <FreeFog> I am trying to check if a NTFS drive I use for backups is properly formated under the Advanced Format specification of Western Digital
[03:20] <Myrth> i have remote kvm, and tried remote mount and boot live xubuntu and dsl, but it just gets stuck or too slow
[03:20] <FreeFog> I tested with parted and the align command
[03:20] <maheanuu> BooleaN
[03:20] <FreeFog> but parted (at least in my limited experience) has no way of teling me if the topology was properly set
[03:21] <FreeFog> I really want to know if I achieved the use of 4kB
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> from what i have seen im liking lubuntu
[03:21] <maheanuu> Boolean, the drive is a 1.5 TB and I have a formatted partitioned virgin standing by to do the dump on if I can ever get the gd command line correct
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> i believe i liked fedora just a liiiiiiiiitttle better
[03:21] <FreeFog> I see in parted a phi and logical out put but I am not sure if I achieved what I wanted
[03:21] <[Toto]> i have some problems with /etc/passwd
[03:22] <[Toto]> no one users password works
[03:22] <boolean> Myrth: then take a look at tune2fs to change the interval from X to whatever your heart desires
[03:22] <Myrth> boolean: i can't boot the system
[03:22] <Myrth> the only access i have right now before it starts fsck is grub
[03:23] <Myrth> google shows i have to add "fastboot" to kernel line in grub, but it doesn't help
[03:23] <boolean> maheanuu: another approach might be to use dd the bad disk into an image on the new drive and mount it via loop to see if you can get at it ... ( google search for instructions )
[03:24] <ouyes> any good tutorial about how to use the ubuntu shell, like grep and find, how to write regular expressions( man pages is lack of examples)
[03:24] <jrib> Myrth: what kernel?  What ubuntu version?
[03:25] <boolean> Myrth: if memory servers, while the system does a typical boot up, doesnt it ask you to do the fsck or is it simply forcing it upon you
[03:25] <maheanuu> boolean, I do NOT want to do anything with this drive until I have run foremost, and sure could use some help on the command line
[03:26] <maheanuu> That is all i am asking for
[03:26] <Myrth> jrib: 11.10, 3.0.0-23
[03:26] <chocobogames> question. ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes on my about once a day. everything becomes locked. what steps should i take to identify the cause/resolve the problem, if possible?
[03:27] <maheanuu> I have the bad drive sdb and the new formatted drive sdc I want to do foremost on sdb and dump the files on sdc
[03:27]  * boolean sighs 
[03:28] <jrib> Myrth: what are you doing exactly to add the "fastboot" option?
[03:28] <maheanuu> chocobogames, what are you doing when it freezes!?
[03:28] <Myrth> jrib: googling "cancel fsck boot" recommends to add this option to disable fsck
[03:28] <chocobogames> maheanuu, it actually happens randomly. sometimes i'm using chromium, sometimes i'm in eclipse
[03:29] <jrib> Myrth: ok, but that's not my question
[03:29] <chocobogames> maheanuu, nothing about it has been consistent other than that it's a complete freeze
[03:29] <Calahan> maheanuu maybe this helps http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142313/
[03:29] <Myrth> jrib: oh, in grub, click E, go to kernel line, click E, add fastboot, click B
[03:29] <jrib> Myrth: "click E"?
[03:30] <Myrth> jrib: to edit
[03:30] <maheanuu> chocobogames, I had the same problem with 10.04 and found out that Firefox was causing the lockups I downloaded the latest version after I deleted the old one and the problem went away
[03:30] <jrib> Myrth: ok I guess you press e on your keyboard and you probably press something like f10 (can't remember) to actually boot?
[03:31] <Myrth> jrib: the legend on the botton says "B" to boot
[03:31] <Myrth> *bottom
[03:31] <Myrth> which it does
[03:32] <jrib> Myrth: well I'm not sure why fastboot isn't working.  Though on ubuntu, there is usually a message present during fsck that says "press whatever to cancel" while it happens
[03:33] <Myrth> jrib: nope. Esc would cancel it in Mint, but in ubuntu it would just switch between splash and log screens
[03:34] <jrib> Myrth: what filesystem is this?
[03:34] <Myrth> ext3
[03:35] <maheanuu> Calahan, can I use $ find *ebooks* to find the entire directory
[03:35] <pakl> hola
[03:35] <Calahan> maheanuu maybe can also try locate
[03:36] <jrib> Myrth: and you don't have access to the files?
[03:36] <Calahan> maheanuu try locate (folder_name)
[03:36] <Myrth> jrib: it is a remote server, i don't have physical, access, only remote KVM. I've tried to remote mount live ISOs but it takes too long to boot. well i guess i'll try again.. might take 15 mins
[03:37] <jrib> Myrth: how big is the filesystem?  Seems like fsck would likely be done by now
[03:37] <Myrth> jrib: 500GB
[03:38] <Myrth> multiple partitions.. it looks like it tries to fsck all of them at the same time
[03:38] <Myrth> which would be so stupid
[03:39] <jrib> Myrth: only other thing to suggest is change your options in grub so you don't (or do; change whatever is happening now) get a splash screen.  Maybe then you can cancel with escape
[03:39] <Myrth> jrib: i've tried to edit the grub options on boot and add "fastboot" but it's ignored
[03:39] <pakl> hola
[03:40] <jrib> Myrth: yes, I'm suggesting something different
[03:40] <jrib> !es | pakl
[03:40] <Myrth> jrib: oh i see
[03:45] <jrib> Myrth: if that doesn't work, maybe you can change init to /bin/bash (not sure if fsck will still run then) and get access to the files that way
[03:46] <Myrth> i'll try to give it few hours for fsck
[03:47] <Myrth> tell you the truth it doesn't bother me that much.. it's a weekend and night.. but my wife is killing me, as she has some stuff there, heh
[03:48] <tech1> i have an external usb drive "/media/SEA_DISC" which gets mounted automatically. i can open files on it and move them around that drive but if i try to copy them to my home folder(like Documents) with Nautilus i get error: "Error when getting information for file" "No such file or directory" .... but if i copy with "cp" from terminal it copies ok i just reinstalled today and im sure the first time around last week i copied
[03:48] <tech1>  with nautilus
[03:49] <sirblade> when I download 12.04 LTS how come it says 32 bit recommended,
[03:49] <JPeterson> , /bin/tar has diappeared so apt-get install doeant work. where is the tar deb?
[03:49] <sirblade> I think I should have d/l the 64-bit :(
[03:49] <Calahan> maheanuu any success? I think the command you wanted to run could be somth like this # find / -name **ebooks*
[03:50] <Calahan> with 1 * before ebooks :P
[03:50] <sirblade> @tech1 can u browse the files in ur homedir
[03:51] <Amink> Hi, I'm a Ubuntu newbie, and I'm having problems with my audio: 1) When I startup, before it goes to Ubuntu, it says 'HDA-Intel no codecs found', 2) when Ubuntu starts, no audio plays 3) there is no audio icon in the top right, 4) videos play super fast
[03:51] <Amink> can any one give me guidance?
[03:52] <JPeterson> sudo dpkg -i tar_1.26-4ubuntu1_i386.deb fails with "dpkg: warning: 'tar' not found in PATH or not executable."
[03:53] <sirblade> is tar in /usr/local/bin ?
[03:54] <osirisx11> hello my friends, i am stuck in a very low resolution after a game crashed, can anyone please suggest how i can reset to a higher res in terminal?
[03:55] <osirisx11> i tried using the standard gui but it annoyingly won't let me drag it up as my resolution is smaller than the change resolution window
[03:56] <animus> hello there
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, have you tried logging out and back in or rebooting?
[03:56] <tech1> is there a way to run a script from outside ~/bin? like with a certain terminal command
[03:56] <osirisx11> wilee-nilee: no i was trying to avoid tha
[03:56] <osirisx11> t
[03:57] <osirisx11> this is a high reliability machine that i happen to play games on
[03:57] <osirisx11> i'd rather not log out
[03:57] <tech1> what
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> that is a shallow exscuse I must say. ;)
[03:58] <tech1> that makes no sense
[03:58] <tech1> oh i found it bash
[03:59] <osirisx11> i can't reset the resolution on command line?
[03:59] <osirisx11> i thought we were geeks here, work with me
[03:59] <osirisx11> "just log out." pah
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, xrandr -s XXxXX you out in the resoultion
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> put in*
[04:00] <osirisx11> but that is not installed by default, so what is the existing dialog using to set it?
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> you don't have to install xrandr
[04:02] <osirisx11> oh thanks
[04:02] <osirisx11> ahh perfect thanks wilee-nilee!
[04:03] <tech1> if i run a script as sudo "sudo bash datadeploy.sh" will all the commands in the script get sudo privalege no matter how long it takes to run(after sudo timeout)?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, cool. ;)
[04:03] <osirisx11> get this man a beer! alright you guys have a great night
[04:03] <aminkbtc> is there any way I can get Ubuntu to find HDA-Intel codecs? When I start up, it says "HDA-Intel no codecs found!"
[04:04] <trailbar> when i'm in x how do i drop to console?
[04:04] <trailbar> thought ctrl-alt-backspace or alt-f7 or something but i maybe this got disabled?
[04:05] <JPeterson> how do i schedule a disk check?
[04:05] <JPeterson> on reboot
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, crtl==-alt-f7 brings you back to x try crtl-alt-f1
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> doh close
[04:07] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: thanks
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, no problem.
[04:08] <trailbar> uh what's the best way of disabling copmositing now? seeing some posts saying edit xorg.conf but i don't seem to have one
[04:08] <aminkbtc> Ubuntu shouldn't be used by newbies
[04:09] <aminkbtc> I thought it would be relatively user friendly, but you need to have decent knowledge of computers or else it's extremely inconvenient.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> aminkbtc, what should they use?
[04:09] <JPeterson> how do i show the startup text after the login screen has cleared the console history?
[04:10] <stryck3r-lander> hello guys
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> hehe I started using computers with ubuntu seemed easy enough.
[04:10] <stryck3r-lander> ehehh
[04:10] <trailbar> does 12.04 ubuntu use metacity or compiz by default?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> compiz
[04:11] <trailbar> what's easiest way to switch it to metacity or something that doesn't have compositing
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> the unity desktop is a plugin in compiz trailbar
[04:12] <cvr> trailbar: metacity --replace
[04:12] <trailbar> cvr: permanently?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, try the 2d desktop
[04:15] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: how do i do that?
[04:15] <trailbar> how can i restart x?
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, at login there is a dropdoen from a gear icon to the right of the user login.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> dropdown*
[04:16] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: ok, because compositing does not work my whole ui is screwed and unusable at the moment, is there a way via command line or other to just restart x so i can attempt login again?
[04:17] <vaks> once ubuntu is installed how much space does it take up?
[04:17] <trailbar> ah pkill X worked
[04:18] <JPeterson> how do i show all boot messages and commands? or pause the boot process?
[04:18] <JPeterson> fsck fails but the message run past too fast to see it
[04:18] <JPeterson> i see "checking disk drive for errors" for a second but i cant make out what it says after that
[04:19] <Calahan> vaks you interested only in shell or gui aswell?
[04:19] <agentgasmask> JPeterson: I think dmesg does that.
[04:19] <JPeterson> how do i ask the login screen to not clear the boot screen log?
[04:19] <vaks> gui
[04:19] <vaks> im too noob to go shell only
[04:19] <JPeterson> cat /var/log/dmesg|grep checking returns ""
[04:20] <Calahan> vaks could bet ~5 GB needed
[04:20] <agentgasmask> JPeterson: try the dmesg command insted of catting the log.
[04:20] <vaks> ok cool
[04:20] <vaks> how much faster is linux on an SSD than a standard 7200rpm HD?
[04:21] <agentgasmask> vaks: much faster. It even rocks on my netbook
[04:21] <Calahan> well it is faster as any other OS but how mutch depends
[04:22] <jgcampbell300> i been trying all night to figure out how to print from a 8 1/2" X 4" envelope with a inventory list on it ... can anyone direct me to a site that would tell me how to do this ...
[04:23] <vaks> i guess im curious if it would be worth putting it on SSD with windows or just have it on other HD, I mainly use this comp for gaming
[04:24] <tobeus> hey all, I need help with ssh client/host config in ubuntu 12.04.  Is there a better channel I should check or can anyone help me out here?
[04:24] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: what do you mean print "from" an envelope? You are trying to print an inventory list on an envelope?
[04:25] <agentgasmask> vaks: i get 200MB/second compared with 35MB/sec.
[04:25] <Calahan> tobeus i gues can try asking here
[04:25] <deadmund> tobeus, This is probably the best channel to ask.
[04:26] <tobeus> ok, I'll give it a go.  I was trying to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys and was getting confused which commands were run on host and which were run on client.
[04:26] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, yes i am trying to print alot of lines with lables to the left of them ... but there is alot of them so i have to print length ways on the envelope and nothing seems to be working on my ubuntu machine
[04:26] <jgcampbell300> well to do that anyways
[04:26] <deadlyninja> my kernel crashed right as i started converting a raid5 to a raid6 with mdadm
[04:27] <tobeus> I wasn't sure how to get the server to recognize a client as an authorized entity and make the connection.
[04:27] <deadlyninja> now it wont mount and im not sure what to do
[04:27] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: I know some guys in our office print with a hacked up openoffice writer page. They just kept messing with the margins till it printed right.
[04:28] <y0om4a> hi
[04:28] <Calahan> tobeus you mean you cannot connect to your server with ssh or what is the problem?
[04:28] <y0om4a> I FORGOT MY PASSWORD FOR UBUNTU
[04:28] <y0om4a> HOW DO I FIX THAT?
[04:28] <tech1> lol
[04:28] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: I'm saying a prayer for you now. Fellas, if you know how to help this guy, please do! :)
[04:28] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, do you know how to make it print sideways ... or from bottem to top
[04:29] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, i dont like the sound of that
[04:29] <y0om4a> DO YOU HAVE  A PASSWORD FINDER PROGRAM FOR UBUNTU TO FIND MY PASSWORD?
[04:29] <tobeus> Correct, cannot connect.  Tried copying keys using ssh-copy-id, but no success.
[04:29] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: you are probably looking for the "landscape" setting once you do File->Print.
[04:29] <minimec> y0om4a: boot in recovery mode, drop to a root shell, then 'passwd youruser'
[04:29] <caixa> is there anyway to fix video tearing in ubuntu
[04:30] <minimec> y0om4a: Like that you can get a new password for youruser.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> y0om4a, here is the info suggested by minimec http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword/
[04:30] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: I'm not saying there is nothing to do. just off the bat try an: mdadm -D /dev/md0 (or whatever your md number is)
[04:30] <Calahan> y0om4a if you have not encrypted your home dir you can restet passwd with live cd or usb
[04:30] <tech1> wont he need a password to get root?
[04:30] <tobeus> Created rsa keys on host, then used ssh-copy-id but got Permission denied (Publickey).
[04:31] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, mdadm: md device /dev/md1 does not appear to be active.
[04:31] <tobeus> The home directory is encrypted, but i used the corrective measure described by creating a folder named /etc/ssh/user-name and copied authorized_keys to that folder.
[04:31] <tobeus> on the server
[04:31] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, that does sound like what i need ... you know i havent tried making one from scratch ... the envelope wisard is probblay screwing me up ... thanks for the input
[04:32] <deadlyninja> anyone here an expert on raids?
[04:32] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: try in ##linux too.
[04:32] <tobeus> It appears my client machine has an encrypted home directory too since I find .encryptfs (or something like that) when I use ls -l in the home directory.
[04:33] <tobeus> would that impact my ssh-copy-id though?
[04:33] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, will do
[04:34] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I know ssh is picky about the permissions on the directory where the keys are stored. the should not be world readable, and I think the default mkdir make it world readable, so double check.
[04:35] <egc> hi
[04:35] <agentgasmask> egc: Hello.
[04:36] <tobeus> agentgasmask, so that would be chmod 755 ~/.ssh on the host, or chmod 755 /etc/ssh/user-name on the server?
[04:36] <bellorinrobert> Hola
[04:36] <tobeus> agentgasmask, and would that be 755?
[04:37] <agentgasmask> tobeus: sorry, shoud be 750 or even 700.
[04:38] <bellorinrobert> Alguien que hable español!
[04:38] <tobeus> agentgasmask, sorry, I meant to type 700, but my brain shot out 755 by habit.  thx, I'll give that a try.  So I'm using chmod 700 ~/.ssh on th host, just for clarification, right?
[04:38] <bellorinrobert> Por aqui
[04:39] <agentgasmask> tobeus: yes, that's what I have here. Also, do it on the /etc/ssh/user-name dir too.
[04:41] <agentgasmask> tobeus: If you are still having trouble, you can try to connect with ssh -vv and it may give you some more hints.
[04:41] <ProtekNickz> hi all, i change my login sound to a custom one and its still playing the drums at login? any clues peeps, i went to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/ and overwrote the sound desktop-login.ogg and nadda
[04:44] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: IIRC it's in Settings->admin->login or session or somthing like that.
[04:44] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: You are talking about the drums that play when gdm comes up (the login screen)?
[04:44] <ProtekNickz> yes
[04:45] <ProtekNickz> lightdm
[04:45] <logix_> you want to replace it, not stop it?
[04:45] <ProtekNickz> correct
[04:45] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I wouldn't expect ssh to succeed if I can't get the ssh-copy-id to work though, right?  That is where I'm getting the Permission Denied (publickey)
[04:46] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I've adjusted the permissions on the files and folder on the client and host as we discussed, but I'm still getting a permission denied problem.
[04:46] <logix_> ProtekNickz: I would be interested in doing that aswell, what's the method you're trying now?
[04:47] <ProtekNickz> agentgasmask:  yes i am
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I feel like I'm missing something on the server-side.  How does the server know it should trust my public key on the client?  What am I missing?
[04:48] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Oh, you are getting the permission denied error when running ssh-copy-id? It's not that hard to just put your pub key in the authorized-keys file. Just cat key.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized-keys
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask,
[04:48] <agentgasmask> tobeus: yes?
[04:48] <agentgasmask> haha
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask, sry, miskeyed.  typing
[04:48] <ProtekNickz> logix: as far as i've found so far, the sounds are in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo ogg format
[04:49] <logix_> hmm, and what exactly happened when you overwrote it with another .ogg
[04:49] <ProtekNickz> ive replaces 2 which i thought it was and well  they were not lol
[04:49] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: I'm on xubuntu here, but if I remember, it should be in one of the settings in the admin section of the panel menu. I would just click around a bit.
[04:49] <ProtekNickz> same drum sound still
[04:50] <ProtekNickz> agentgasmask:  where is the panel?
[04:50] <ahoneybun> ProtekNickz, I have not read any tutorials about changing the sound, so I don't know if you can
[04:51] <tobeus> agentgasmask, ok, that's probably what it is.  So I have to copy it over manually then?  I thought that's what the ssh-copy-id was for, and wasn't sure how the host knew it was a valid addition.  I'll have to get a monitor and keyboard hooked back up to the server again.
[04:51] <logix_> Name=GNOME Login Sound   Comment=Plays a sound whenever you log in   Exec=/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[04:51] <logix_> Name=GNOME Login Sound   Comment=Plays a sound whenever you log in   Exec=/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[04:51] <logix_> that's on 12.04
[04:52] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: at the top left of your screen you have Applications Places System. Under system there is admin, under that there is login-screen. In there you can disable the sound. I don't know how to change it.
[04:52] <ahoneybun> ProtekNickz, http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/12/change-startup-sound-in-ubuntu.html
[04:52] <logix_> ah nope my mistake that's the command for it
[04:52] <agentgasmask> tobeus: No, you'll be good with just ssh access.
[04:53] <tech1> whats the du or other command to show folder/file sizes in a directory of only subfolder level...... so if folder "fruit" contained "apple" and "pear" -which both contained other files, i just want to see the sizes of apple and pear
[04:53] <minimec> ProtekNickz: The file is /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg Just have to change that one...
[04:53] <agentgasmask> tobeus: You can use scp. so scp ~/.ssh/key.pub user@ipaddress:/home/remote_user/mykey.pub
[04:53] <ProtekNickz> ive done that, still drums lol
[04:53] <logix_> have you tried stereo/system-ready.ogg
[04:54] <logix_> change both of them to the .ogg you want
[04:54] <bzzzz> tech1: du --max-depth=1 -h /path/to/fruit
[04:54] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: Sorry, that's all I've got.
[04:54] <tech1> thanks buzz
[04:55] <ProtekNickz> no worries
[04:55] <tobeus> agentgasmask, lol, recieved Permission Denied (publickey) again
[04:55] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Do you not have even password authenticated access to the box then?
[04:55] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I guess I was assuming that you did. If not, you'll need the monitor and keyboard.
[04:56] <logix_> ProtekNickz: did you try stereo/system-ready.ogg ???
[04:56] <tobeus> It's been forever since I got that box put together, so my guess is that I do not, so I'll have to get the monitor and keyboard.
[04:57] <tobeus> agentgasmask, No biggie.  It shouldn't be too difficult.  Should I turn on password authentication if the box is exposed to the internet for wan side ssh?
[04:57] <ProtekNickz> BRB maybe reboot lol
[04:58] <agentgasmask> tobeus: It's probably good to just have key-based in that case. Just remember that the key is much more secure if you set a password for the key when you make it. I know it's tempting to just leave it blank, but if our are facine the wan, it might be a concern.
[04:59] <Draugauth> ok followed the tutorial for ifenslave and it shut down the network connections.  any ideas?
[04:59] <dez82> hello!
[05:00] <dez82> how are you all
[05:00] <Draugauth> dez82:  Ok just trying to get bonding working /lol
[05:00] <tobeus> agentgasmask, yeah, I used my more secure password for that.  thx for the tip.
[05:01] <dez82> I just installed 12.04 LTS, and am determined not to go back to winblows
[05:01] <dez82> so i thought I should join here for support
[05:01] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I should be arround for a little bit longer if you need help once you get the monitor and keyboard setup.
[05:01] <agentgasmask> dez82: Welcome! :)
[05:01] <dez82> Thanx agentgasmask
[05:02] <dez82> expect a few "silly" questions from me over the next few weeks
[05:02] <dez82> i trained in fedora and centos, so my ubuntu is a little scratchy
[05:03] <Keegan_> hey when I type once in terminal and then I can't type the command password wonder why??
[05:03] <agentgasmask> Keegan_: try control-q. just a guess.
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I'm having these streams of xruns in ubuntu studio 12.04, and I think I need a realtime kernel.. anyone able to confirm this?
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> All I have now is the standard lowlatency kernel that comes with ubuntu studio
[05:04] <tobeus> agentgasmask, ok, thx.  Still wrestling the other equipment.  Should be done soon.
[05:05] <tech1> is there a command i can put in a script to make the terminal running the script go bigger/fullscreen?
[05:05] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I think I'm going to turn on password auth long enough to send the key.  Otherwise I'll have to find an old flash drive.
[05:05] <agentgasmask> tobeus: haha, yeah that should be good.
[05:06] <tobeus> agentgasmask, wow, this thing was back in the 10.04 days.  Going to work on updating that to 12.04 I think later.  Whilst I have keyb/monitor still hooked up.
[05:06] <dez82> hey, out of interest, I'm having to use the nouveou drivers for my nvidia8500GT as the proprietory dual screen support doesnt work. Has anybody found a way to get dual screen working with better performance? (3d etc)
[05:07] <agentgasmask> tobeus: let me know how that goes. :)
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> For any one that wants to know which file it  is , for the login screen sound it's Location: /uar/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> Got it :D
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> uar = "usr" lol soz
[05:10] <ProtekNickz> thanks for the help peeps :D
[05:10] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: Glad it worked out. Come back anytime.
[05:11] <ProtekNickz> i will and do :D
[05:12] <tobeus> agentgasmask, what was the cat command to append the new public key to the authorized keyfile again?
[05:12] <iToast> Hi.
[05:12] <iToast> I got a ubuntu server
[05:12] <Keegan_> hi
[05:12] <iToast> and I want to back it up in such a way
[05:13] <iToast> I can just take the backup from a 10.4 server and bring it to a 12.4 server
[05:13] <iToast> and still use things like "apt-get upgrade" and it'l reconize all the installed apps from the backups
[05:13] <agentgasmask> tobeus: just cat the public key file to the authorized_keys file. So: cat key.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:14] <iToast> I know I need to backup /home /etc /var
[05:14] <iToast> Any other parts of my FS?
[05:14] <agentgasmask> iToast: Is there a question in there somewhere? and don't be afrade of a big block of text. It's better then having a bunch of broken up posts.
[05:14] <goddard> anyone know the KDE overall buttons ?
[05:14] <iToast> agentgasmask:  I'm after making a backup of my ubuntu server
[05:15] <agentgasmask> iToast: do you want to have all the same software installed?
[05:15] <iToast> that I can take to a new ubuntu install of a updated version
[05:15] <iToast> agentgasmask:  yes
[05:15] <iToast> phrakt: !
[05:15] <agentgasmask> Ok. you are looking for dpkg --get-selection on the old server.
[05:15] <tobeus> agentgasmask, awesome, that did it!
[05:16] <iToast> >_<
[05:16] <iToast> Ok, what directorys should I backup?
[05:16] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Sweet! :) I guess once you had the password setup, you could just have used ssh-copy-id. DOGH!
[05:16] <tobeus> agentgasmask, so for future reference, is there really a purpose to ssh-copy-id when using an encrypted home directory?  I tried using that after enabling password login.
[05:16] <ProtekNickz> ok another ponder :D, has anyone got a nice tutorial on how to back up your machine, like what to back up and what not to ect..? if so i would apriciate it
[05:17] <agentgasmask> tobeus: oh, and it still failed?
[05:17] <iToast> So.
[05:17] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I tried and it said it worked, but after I disabled passwords, it gave me the Permission Denied (publickey) problem when I ssh'd in.
[05:17] <iToast> Anyone got a idea on what  I should do...?
[05:17] <iToast> What directories should I backup...?
[05:17] <iToast> I know /var /etc /home
[05:18] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I don't have any experiance with encrypted home dirs. But I would think that once it was mounted, it would act just like a normal filesystem to the programs accessing it.
[05:18] <agentgasmask> iToast: once sec...
[05:18] <tobeus> agentgasmask, it was probably my mistake somewhere.
[05:18] <Platypus-Man> iToast: you could use CloneZilla and back it all up
[05:18] <iToast> Platypus-Man: No downtime.
[05:18] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Oh well. Water under the bridge and all.
[05:18] <iToast> Everything needs to happen while the machine keeps going.
[05:19] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I'm guessing that ssh-copy-id tried to copy the .pub keyfile to the default location on the host of ~/.ssh rather than the new location /etc/ssh/user-name which is where it has to be for the encrypted filesystem.  Either way, thx for the help!
[05:19] <iToast> Anyone got any idea >_<
[05:19] <iToast> I know I can do a more complex backup, so dump all databases copy all files
[05:19] <iToast> and copy my home directory and start fresh
[05:19] <agentgasmask> tobeus: no problem. Glad all my previouse pain could be usefull to someone else.
[05:19] <JPeterson> "sudo apt-get <anything>" crash without message. how to trace the problem?
[05:20] <iToast> JPeterson: Error logs!
[05:20] <tobeus> agentgasmask, yep, looks like it.  I have a brand new file called authorized_keys in the ~/.ssh folder for my encrypted file with the pub key appended.  That's what it did.
[05:20] <JPeterson> iToast: where?
[05:20] <iToast> JPeterson: /var/log I believe.
[05:20] <tobeus> agentgasmask, lol, thx again.  ttyl.
[05:20] <sirblade> how come download page says 32-bit recommended for v12, what if I have 64 bit machine?
[05:20] <agentgasmask> iToast: just relax and drink soem tea for a sec. I'm getting a google page for you now.
[05:20] <iToast> sirblade:  get 64bit.
[05:20] <iToast> agentgasmask: tea tastes horrid...
[05:21] <iToast> well, not one brand of orange tea but I think they closed :(
[05:22] <iToast> Also, anyone got any Idea for a webcam.
[05:22] <iToast> During the night in my room there is strange noises, behavour
[05:22] <ProtekNickz> idea as in what?
[05:22] <iToast> People don't go in my room during the night but things are moved...
[05:22] <agentgasmask> iToast: Ok. so install the software (with method forth comming) and then copy the dirs that you mentioned.
[05:22] <iToast> agentgasmask: thats it"
[05:22] <iToast> ?
[05:23] <iToast> ProtekNickz: One of the strange things that happened was a cable started moving in my room on its own...
[05:23] <agentgasmask> iToast: first on old server run: dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt
[05:23] <iToast> violently. I recorded, amazingly that file went corrupt minutes later...
[05:23] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then, copy that file to the new server and run: dpgk --set-selections < selections.txt
[05:24] <iToast> agentgasmask: and just copy the other directorys?
[05:24] <ProtekNickz> dont worry about it, prolly someone try to steal your copper wire to weight it in lol
[05:24] <JPeterson> iToast: "sudo apt-get" doesnt write anything in /var/log shows `ls -ltr /var/log`
[05:24] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then run sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[05:24] <ProtekNickz> any one got a good tutorial on how and what to back up on linux? and the reasons ect..
[05:25] <iToast> agentgasmask: why can't I just copy my installs over :S
[05:25] <iToast> lol
[05:25] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then copy the dirs. I wouldn't erase /etc on the new server. Just move it in case something breaks.
[05:25] <iToast> ok
[05:25] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know what the linker flag for opengl happens to be in GCC?
[05:25] <agentgasmask> iToast: you could give it a try, but this isn't that hard.
[05:26] <iToast> so only /var /home and /etc...?
[05:26] <Maccer> (-lGL doesn't work)
[05:26] <agentgasmask> iToast: I just know what worked for me.
[05:26] <agentgasmask> iToast: unless you have data elseware.
[05:27] <agentgasmask> iToast: good luck. I'm off to bed
[05:27] <iToast> agentgasmask:
[05:27] <iToast> agentgasmask I got the command and the file :D
[05:27] <agentgasmask> what.
[05:27] <iToast> So I just install it, then merge my backup...?
[05:27] <Draugauth> is there a utorrent like program for ubuntu?
[05:27] <iToast> Draugauth: I forgot the name..
[05:27] <ProtekNickz> Draugauth:  ktorrent
[05:27] <iToast> its the same one that freenas uses!
[05:28] <Draugauth> ProtekNickz:  Thank you
[05:28] <ProtekNickz> np
[05:28] <agentgasmask> iToast: yes. I would copy one config over at a time and make sure if it breaks then you know what broke it and can copy the orig back.
[05:28] <agentgasmask> Draugauth: transmission or rtorrent
[05:28] <iToast> agentgasmask:  Thanks :)
[05:28] <agentgasmask> iToast: have fun. :)
[05:29] <iToast> agentgasmask: 250gb HDD
[05:29] <iToast> for my backup
[05:29] <agentgasmask> By all. had fun. Talk later.
[05:29] <iToast> weekly mirrors
[05:29] <iToast> nightly of my /home
[05:29] <ProtekNickz> bye agentgasmask:
[05:34] <km0t> hola
[05:36] <stinky> Hi, I am sort of a noobie, I have only ran a few servers remotely. Is there some IRC channel i can try chatting about setting up game servers?
[05:36] <stinky> well, general ubuntu chat I guess
[05:37] <Stanley00> stinky: if it run ubuntu, I think you can ask here :D
[05:38] <stinky> ok :) i thought this was strictly tech, Thanks :)
[05:39] <dsnyders> Hi all!  What file(s) are routes stored in.  I need to change my default route.
[05:40] <douglas> good night
[05:40] <douglas> guys
[05:40] <Stanley00> dsnyders: you can use route command, or use Network manager
[05:41] <dsnyders> Stanley00, I thought the route command only affected the running configuration.  If I reboot, it's back to the original, no?
[05:42] <Stanley00> dsnyders: yep, how about using Network Manager? It has GUI, and remembers what you set.
[05:43] <dsnyders> Stanley00, System>admin>NetworkTools?
[05:44] <Stanley00> dsnyders: right click on your network icon, and you will see it
[05:47] <crazydiamond> Hi. I have a router and Laptop, conncted to it. In laptop I can do ping command to every host, but cannot download any data. What can be a problem?
[05:48] <Stanley00> crazydiamond: try ping 8.8.8.8 and ping google.com
[05:48] <stinky> can you write toteh download folder crazydiamond ? do you own it?
[05:48] <dsnyders> Stanley00, It's not prompting for admin rights.
[05:49] <crazydiamond> Staneley: both ok
[05:49] <Stanley00> dsnyders: oh, my bad, the menu call "Edit connection..." ;)
[05:50] <Stanley00> crazydiamond: hmm, then try what stinky said
[05:51] <crazydiamond> write to folder? yes, I can. when I said "cannot download anything, I wanted to say that I cannot open any web page. wget fails also"
[05:51] <ehs> what the version of ubuntu are you using
[05:51] <ehs> <crazydiamond
[05:51] <crazydiamond> ehs: 12.04
[05:51] <ehs> are you the superuser?
[05:52] <stinky> my wife thingks so
[05:52] <ESphynx> lol
[05:52] <crazydiamond> ehs: no. what for?
[05:53] <ehs> if you are downloading the file to any super user folder it wont work
[05:53] <Josh483> Hey can someone help me i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and im having major wifi problems?
[05:53] <crazydiamond> ehs: simply, I cannot use http connection to open a web page, and it's some network configuration problem
[05:54] <ehs> so you are not able to open any website too is it?
[05:54] <Josh483> Hey can someone help me i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and im having major wifi problems?
[05:54] <crazydiamond> ehs: yes. but ping works okay
[05:56] <ehs> dhcp or static?
[05:56] <crazydiamond> dhcp, automatic IP detection
[05:57] <amol> how to install g++ in ubuntu10.10
[05:57] <amol> i tried "sudo apt-get install g++"
[05:57] <amol> ?????????????
[05:59] <fdsa> anyone know of an active security channel?
[06:00] <Stanley00> fdsa: try /msg alis :D
[06:00] <Stanley00> !alis | fdsa
[06:01] <crazydiamond> what's the problem when Ubuntu Laptop can resolve IP, but cannot open any web page?
[06:01] <jaxdahl> DNS server issue
[06:02] <goddard> i installed KDE but I want to uninstall it now how can I remove it and all related programs?
[06:02] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: my Laptop is connected via router. can that be a problem?
[06:02] <JPeterson> how do i regenerate /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[06:03] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, did you assign your laptop an IP address (static) or did you use DHCP
[06:04] <Josh483> Can someone help me please my wifi is really messed up and idk what to do
[06:04] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: it uses DHCP
[06:04] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, ethernet or wireless
[06:04] <bzzzz> JPeterson: what's wrong with it?
[06:04] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: ethernet
[06:04] <JPeterson> bzzzz: it's gone
[06:04] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, ifconfig eth0 and see if it has a DNS server listed
[06:04] <Josh483> jax can you help me
[06:05] <sambagirl> josh483 what means really messed up?
[06:05] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, actually dns might not be listed under there
[06:05] <Josh483> like my wifi icon keeps crashing or dissapearing and i keep rebooting it
[06:05] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot find word "DNS"
[06:05] <bz> JPeterson: what's the output of "ls /var/lib/dpkg"?
[06:05] <Josh483> and now its just off and wont turn on
[06:05] <Josh483> it says network manager isnt running
[06:05] <sambagirl> what version of ubuntu?
[06:06] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot find word "DNS" in output of "ifconfig eth0"
[06:06] <sambagirl> did you do any recent updates?
[06:06] <Josh483> well its xubuntu
[06:06] <bz> JPeterson: what's the output of "ls /var/backups/dpkg*"?
[06:06] <bz> JPeterson: pastebin those two
[06:06] <sambagirl> ahh you need to go to #xubuntu
[06:06] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, cat /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
[06:06] <Josh483> ohh
[06:06] <sambagirl> they wont help you in here
[06:06] <sambagirl> not at all
[06:06] <Josh483> why
[06:06] <goddard> how can i uninstalled all KDE applications?
[06:06] <sambagirl> because it isnt ubuntu
[06:07] <sambagirl> it is xubuntu
[06:07] <JPeterson> bz: thx ill try to use a backup
[06:07] <Josh483> ok
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: server=192.168.1.1
[06:07] <sambagirl> different distro
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: 1 line in file
[06:07] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, do you have a windows computer around
[06:07] <hack2s> any apps
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: yes
[06:07] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, type ipconfig /all on windows computer in cmd prompt
[06:07] <jaxdahl> and see what DNS it has configured
[06:08] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: the same, 192.168.1.1
[06:08] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, and you are not able to resolve google.com on the laptop?
[06:09] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Where are the routes stored?
[06:09] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: yes. resolves into 74.125.232.6
[06:09] <iToast> The ghost in the machine.
[06:09] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, what was your problem again?
[06:09] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot open any web page
[06:10] <NastyNaz> are there any ascii web-browsers out there? I want to surf the web from my ubuntu server
[06:10] <tech1> im trying to show folder sizes of 1 level in order of size with "du --max-depth=1 -h" and to display by size "du --max-depth=1 -h | sort -n" but it is stilll showing random order?
[06:10] <iToast> NastyNaz:  yes
[06:10] <iToast> google it NastyNaz  :p
[06:10] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, you are using firefox and pages fail to loads?
[06:10] <NastyNaz> iToast: thanks for being real helpful
[06:10] <iToast> NastyNaz: Lynx
[06:11] <iToast> NastyNaz:  took me 2 secs to google it.
[06:11] <iToast> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)
[06:11] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: I used: 1 - firefox, 2 - wget http://google.com/ -- both fails
[06:11] <jaxdahl> what error message does firefox give you?
[06:11] <chu> !google | iToast
[06:12] <iToast> chu: It's not google fu.
[06:12] <iToast> It was as simple thing to do first
[06:12] <iToast> "text only web browser"
[06:12] <bazhang> iToast, never recommend google here
[06:12] <iToast> bazhang: I'ts my oppinion and others
[06:12] <NastyNaz> thanks, I'll check it out
[06:12] <iToast> that you help yourself first
[06:12] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: server has disconnected the connection or sth like this
[06:13] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, i wonder if it's a ipv6 issue?
[06:14] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: how do I check that?
[06:14] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, in firefox go to about:config, and set network.dns.disableIPv6  to True
[06:14] <jaxdahl> then see if things work
[06:14] <jaxdahl> if so, look for an option to disable ipv6 system-wide, not sure where that is
[06:16] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: I disabled IPv6 in Firefox. the same error
[06:17] <jaxdahl> sorry, i'm not sure what the issue is then.
[06:17] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: but, ubuntu is connected via router. can that affect?
[06:17] <Maccer> Is there a way to force re-install pulse audio with its default settings or restore to the default settings?  My mic input worked, and then it stopped all of a sudden
[06:17] <jaxdahl> no idea.
[06:17] <jaxdahl> Maccer, do you own any small pets
[06:18] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: and lead to that issues. if shortly, what special preferences must I have for router?
[06:18] <Maccer> jaxdahl: nuh uh
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> after i run a python script, python scriptname.py, it gives me commands to ./start running, what do i do after?
[06:21] <JPeterson> this looks interesting: debconf: warning: possible database corruption. Will attempt to repair by adding back missing question samÿþ HBå"_ù©^*}þ¨A_ûã
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[06:23] <jiltdil> Is there any way to rate my laptop under ubuntu like it is in Window?
[06:23] <caixa> does ubuntu block internet ports by default or something?
[06:26] <crimsonmane> caixa: depends on what you're trying to accomplish. what's up?
[06:34] <sikanderkhan> hi everyone!
[06:35] <stinky> Welcome! wWelcome to ubuntu . I am your host.
[06:35] <sikanderkhan> stinky: Hi there!
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !ftp
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info gftp
[06:41] <oorang3> hey folks, i've setup a chroot according to the ubuntu wiki. it works just fine with "schroot -c lucid_i386 -u myuser". however it fails if i "su myuser" with the error : "E: lucid: Chroot not found"
[06:41] <oorang3> any ideas?
[06:43] <jiltdil> Is there any way to rate my laptop under ubuntu like it is in Window?
[06:44] <oorang3> nvm, got it
[06:47] <rhollan> is anyone here? I need HELP!
[06:47] <denys> hello
[06:47] <denys> I am new to Ubuntu
[06:48] <rhollan> my mentally ill son stole my phone and ran into the street. I need someone to cal l 911
[06:48] <denys> got some questions
[06:48] <rhollan> this is not a joke
[06:48] <denys> rhollan go to your neighbours
[06:48] <denys> call from there
[06:49] <denys> can I get help about adobe flash installation?
[06:49] <rhollan> it is late. I am afraid of disturbing them.
[06:49] <theadmin> Okay, so I'm doing the minimal install, and after configuring the HTTP proxy it gets stuck on a purple screen. Is it doing anything?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> denys:whats wrong mate
[06:49] <theadmin> Never mind, it is
[06:49] <Maccer> What a load of sh-, I reinstall my pulseaudio and alsa, and I can't hear anything.  Just... what the possible fu-
[06:49] <theadmin> denys: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer # This should be enough
[06:50] <oorang3> in order to get my guest users into chroot they have to : schroot -c my_schroot -u my_user. is there a better way to have this run at login than putting it in ~/.bashrc ?
[06:50] <denys> rhollan, it's your son. Just go and make a call. It's a 911 situation
[06:50] <oorang3> i was hopping i could put it as their login shell, but it doesn't seem to like that
[06:51] <denys> theadmin, hi! so. I downloaded flash-plugin-11.2.202.236-release.x86_64.rpm what next? I heared something about packet managers and this looks like a Red Hat one. But what next?
[06:51] <goddard> what is the K display manager?
[06:52] <theadmin> denys: Uh, you DON'T use that. Search for Flash in the Ubuntu Software Center OR run the following command in your terminal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: KDM.
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: If you mean what it's for, then it's your login screen
[06:53] <goddard> theadmin: for KDE?
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: Yes
[06:53] <goddard> ok
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> denys; is flash not working after installing it?
[06:54] <theadmin> goddard: Well, you can honestly use it with any desktop, but it is a part of KDE.
[06:55] <goddard> i see
[06:55] <denys> theadmin , was testing after making apt install in terminal. It works nice. Thankyou
[06:56] <theadmin> denys: Great. Just so you know, always search for things in the Software Center instead of downloading from websites.
[06:57] <caixa> go
 ok.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: any idea howto solve a corrupt square-like mouse pointer at first boot(after reboot its fixxed)
[06:58] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Nope.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: tnx anyway, im trying to solve this bug for years now : (
[06:59] <goddard> how can I remove shortcuts in my dock menu that are not linked properly any more?
[06:59] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: I have a similar issue, and moving the mouse randomly around the right side of the screen seems to help, but that's not a decent explanation is it
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: is it an a machine with ati card?
[07:00] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: graphics card/driver maybe?
[07:00] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Yeah, not using fglrx though.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: the strange thing is, it only happens 1 time a day..after reboot the problem is gone
[07:01] <pizzad> lotuspsychie does it happen on other pc's as well or just that one
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: yes i got it on 2 systems with ati card
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:ati drivers installed correctly cause compiz effects working fine
[07:02] <dudewhat> Next you need to modify the permissions of /home/ftpusers directory and of any other subdirectories. The owner must be ftpuser while Group must be ftpgroup
[07:02] <dudewhat> how do I do this?
[07:02] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know why the hell my sound broke when I reinstalled the alsa and pulseaudio package?  They're there.  Pulse and alsa are running.  Alsamixer detects everything, modules seem to be loaded, yet, no sound. :(
[07:02] <dudewhat> pl0x
[07:03] <pizzad> lotuspsychje that is strange indeed especially since it just happens once a day... I use ati aswell and i don't get this issue although I had it on a pc with a much older ati card
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: was u able to fix this square on it?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: i must say both systems are kinda older ati cards aswell
[07:04] <dudewhat> anyone?
[07:05] <greenit> hi, my ubuntu has a problem: every first boot it runs in low graphics mode, i can't click anything, only the window appears, but after reset it works normally... can any1 help me get rid of this problem? graphicscard: nvidia geforce GTX 570, driver: nvidia
[07:05] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: The square issue disappeared for me when I installed Ubuntu 10 on it (previously 9.04) and has not returned as of 12.04
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:clean install or upgrade?
[07:06] <ashi> hi
[07:06] <ashi> anybody here
[07:06] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: I do a clean install every time a new version comes out. What version are you on now?
[07:06] <dudewhat> 1337
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:i think both systems got upgrade...maybe its time for clean :p
[07:06] <ashi> what u mean
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:tnx for your feedback mate, this might solve the issua
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> *issue
[07:07] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: well for now try it on one machine and see if it helps, Good Luck! :D
[07:07] <dudewhat> Next you need to modify the permissions of /home/ftpusers directory and of any other subdirectories. The owner must be ftpuser while Group must be ftpgroup
[07:07] <dudewhat> ????
[07:07] <ashi> chown ftp folder path
[07:08] <ashi> then chmod 730 folder path
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:tnx
[07:08] <dudewhat> ty
[07:08] <ashi> wc
[07:09] <ashi> then change selinux permission for ftp
[07:09] <dudewhat> so root@thegibson:/home/nick# chown ftpuser:ftgroup /home/ftpusers
[07:09] <ashi> getsebool - a ftp
[07:09] <ashi> yes
[07:10] <ashi> chmod 730 /home/ftpusers
[07:10] <dudewhat> chown: invalid group: `ftpuser:ftgroup'
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to see uptime of an ftp with gftp?
[07:10] <dudewhat> oops
[07:11] <ashi> to view /home/users permissions # ls -lZd /home/ftpuser
[07:11] <dudewhat> got it
[07:11] <ashi> u got it?
[07:11] <dudewhat> yes
[07:11] <dudewhat> thanks :D
[07:11] <ashi> u from
[07:11] <ashi> im from india
[07:12] <ashi> any other question
[07:12] <ashi> dudewhat
[07:12] <ashi> hy
[07:12] <ashi> r u working dudewhat
[07:12] <dudewhat> sorta
[07:13] <ashi> what
[07:13] <dudewhat> "working"
[07:13] <ashi> good
[07:13] <ashi> any other
[07:13] <ashi> questions
[07:13] <ashi> dude
[07:13] <dudewhat> not at the moment
[07:14] <ashi> which version of ubuntu u use
[07:14] <ashi> hey dude u from
[07:14] <dudewhat> Linux thegibson 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <dudewhat> 12.04
[07:16] <ashi> is it ubuntu
[07:16] <goddard> i have a bunch of short cuts that are from wine that are valid since I uninstalled them .... How can I remove those ?
[07:17] <ashi> apt-remove wine
[07:17] <goddard> ive already remove wine
[07:17] <ashi> then
[07:18] <ashi> *
[07:18] <goddard> no other way to clean up stuff
[07:19] <ashi> synaptic manger
[07:19] <goddard> synaptic wont remove dead short cuts i dont think will it?
[07:20] <ashi> where is the short cuts
[07:20] <ashi> is in desktop
[07:20] <ashi> or menu
[07:20] <goddard> in the menu
[07:20] <ashi> ahhaha
[07:21] <ashi> right click on menu ok
[07:21] <ashi> u can see the edit menu
[07:21] <ashi> did u get that ?
[07:22] <goddard> ? your talking about the unity dock?
[07:22] <goddard> thats the menu Im talking about
[07:22] <JPeterson> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142526/
[07:22] <ashi> no
[07:23] <ashi> no dock
[07:23] <ashi> u want wine from menu
[07:23] <ashi> ok
[07:25] <ashi> any body want help
[07:25] <ashi> about ubuntu
[07:25] <cfhowlett> ashi: ask with details
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:26] <ashi> u want help
[07:26] <goddard> ashi: huh?
[07:26] <ashi> tell me
[07:26] <goddard> ashi: i do not want wine im trying to remove dead short cuts
[07:27] <ashi> is the shortcuts in menu isnt it goddard
[07:28] <ashi> if u take edit menu u can delete the short cuts also
[07:28] <ashi> just check it now
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> goddard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21681/how-do-i-correctly-remove-items-from-wine-programs-menu
[07:31] <JPeterson> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142526/
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !patience|JPeterson:
[07:35] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i dont have wine installed any more
[07:36] <tech1> poop
[07:39] <erdeniz> \msg nickserv info len
[07:45] <Guest86898> hey whats up guyz
[07:47] <hederchan> come in?
[07:47] <hederchan> hello
[07:47] <cfhowlett> hederchan: we c u
[07:48] <hederchan> o .thank u
[07:49] <hederchan> 都在讲英文吗
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !jp|hederchan:
[07:50] <hederchan> i am not jap
[07:50] <bitbarron> Is anybody here knowledgeable about gpg?
[07:50] <bitbarron> Or GnuPG?
[07:51] <logix_> in what context?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !cn|hederchan
[07:51] <bitbarron> logix_, just some basic config questions
[07:51] <hederchan>  thank u
[07:51] <hederchan> you
[07:52] <cfhowlett> hederchan: no worries
[07:52] <logix_> I want to know more about it aswell
[07:52] <bitbarron> logix_, do you know what the purpose of the comment is when you create a new key pair?
[07:53] <logix_> nope, don't know much about gpg
[07:53] <bitbarron> logix_, OK, thanx
[07:53] <logix_> it's the same as pgp only gnu isn't it?
[07:53] <bitbarron> logix_, yes
[07:57] <KatsumeBlisk> How would one uninstall an application they compiled from source? just delete its directory since it's not connected to the package manager?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: iirc it's sudo dpkg -r foo
[07:59] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Thanks. I actually figured out a separate problem that made that question irrelevant. I installed an app from source since it's not in the repos, but it wasn't showing in the dash because it was placed in a weird spot. I found it.
[07:59] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: I was going to uninstall it to see if I could fix it.
[08:00] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: best of luck
[08:00] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Are most application shortcuts (like the ones the Dash uses) in /usr/bin?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: that is my understanding
[08:02] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Thank you
[08:02] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: be safe.  have fun.
[08:03] <TotallyWorthIt> can someone help me with these error ??
[08:03] <TotallyWorthIt> http://hpaste.org/73030
[08:09] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, looks like a broken script
[08:11] <TotallyWorthIt> defigo: i don't have any script in my code...
[08:12] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, oh, it's your program?
[08:13] <TotallyWorthIt> defigo: yes it is...
[08:14] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, ah, sorry I don't even recognize the language.. have you tried some programming channels?
[08:15] <Guest78823> hello ,anyone knows where I can download an Xubuntu user handbook?
[08:15] <Guest78823> I can't find it on the offical site
[08:16] <TotallyWorthIt> yes ... i didn't want it to paste these here... i post it the wrong windows
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: so far as I know, no such thing.  the ubuntu books/manuals should suffice for almost all needs.  Is there something xubuntu specific I can provide assistance on?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:16] <TotallyWorthIt> sorry fst time
[08:16] <JPeterson> how do i reinstall all packages from the live cd?
[08:16] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, ok, it happens
[08:17] <Guest78823> I want to know how to change the hot keys
[08:17] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: sudo dpkg -i foo.* (-f to force?)
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: media hotkeys?
[08:17] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: what's foo.*?
[08:18] <JPeterson> i mean all packages on sda of course
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: foo = insert random file name here
[08:18] <JPeterson> , /dev/sda1
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: wouldn't it be easier overall to just reinstall?
[08:18] <JPeterson> ya, that's why i asked
[08:19] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: ah.  I misread your question.  reboot from your live cdrom/usb, install your /root and DO NOT format your /home.  Your data *should* be safe, but, of course, back it up first if it's important.
[08:20] <JPeterson> i have no idea what you mean. give the commands. no explanations
,can you answer my questions?
[08:21] <Guest78823> I have send you a message
[08:21] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: did you mean re-assign the media hotkeys?
[08:21] <Guest78823> not just media hotkeys ,all the hotkeys
[08:22] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: reinstall = install.  boot your ubuntu cdrom/usb.  install your root system.  Choose the existing /home as your /home but do NOT format.
[08:22] <pride> hi
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: settings/keyboard has some of the keys you're referencing...
[08:22] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: how do i run apt-get on sda1 from the live cd
[08:23] <pride> how to change 11.10
[08:23] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: some reason you can NOT apt-get update from your system without live boot?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> pride: "change"??  you mean upgrade to 12.04?
[08:23] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: yes
[08:24] <JPeterson> youre arguing with me
[08:24] <JPeterson> i'm asking ho i specify the target file systme for apt-get
[08:24] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: just asking for clarificatoin ...
[08:24] <pride> cfhow no get my computer and al
[08:25] <pride> like basic interface things as on 11.04
[08:25] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: best thing I can do is bail out of this question.  I THINK I understand what you're attempting, but I've never done so not comfortable advising...
[08:26] <Guest78823> still can't find it.Xubuntu looks good but is less convenient than Ubuntu
[08:26] <cfhowlett> pride: so you want your present 11.10 to look/feel more like 11.04, is that it?
[08:26] <glebihan> JPeterson, noone's arguing with you, you asked how to reinstall all packages from the CD, and the only way to do that is to resinstall your whole system, just as cfhowlett told you
[08:26] <pride> yess
[08:27] <pride> may be get more things on desktop
[08:27] <JPeterson> glebihan: can you answer clearly? can i specify the target file system for apt-get or aptitude or not?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> pride: doable.  you'll have to specify what exactly you want changed and work through all the steps...
[08:27] <glebihan> JPeterson, no
[08:28] <_RASPUTTIN> how can i write in hindi in ubuntu ?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: pretty sure there's language support you can install for that...
[08:28] <pride> use some unicode like software
[08:28] <_RASPUTTIN> i see
[08:29] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: wait one - looking
[08:30] <pride> how to make ubuntu 11.10 look more handy
[08:30] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: software center shows 2 entries for "hindi" - installing the overall language support is a system setting that can be easily changed.  Not sure about specific language characters though
[08:30] <pride> handy means get more thiings on desktop
[08:31] <cfhowlett> pride: right click on the desktop and I'm pretty sure a menu will come up for adding shortcuts and the like...
[08:32] <_RASPUTTIN> cfhowlett: i i will see
[08:32] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: best of luck
[08:34] <Guest12757> nick claudiu
[08:35] <Guest12757> --nickname-- claudiu
[08:35] <Guest12757> bonjour
[08:35] <Guest12757> channel #ubuntu-fr
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Guest12757: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:36] <Animus123> need help!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Animus123: state the issue - without unnecessary !!!!!!
[08:36] <Animus123> how to install oracle 11g in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:38] <goddard> anyone know how to remove virutal box kernel drivers once installed?
[08:39] <Animus123> cfhowlett:do you know,how to install oracle 11g in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:40] <cc11rocks> Hello everyone. I am on my new System76 laptop. I am trying to set up a wifi ad-hoc connection - from this computer to one of my laptops. When I try to set it up on here, I get a "network disconnected" notification or other nonsense. Is this a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Animus123: personally no experience, however  echizen.blog.com/2012/05/03/​ubuntu-12-04-安装-oracle
[08:41] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok thanks!
[08:41] <cfhowlett> Animus123: not sure that link pasted correctly.  try ubuntu 12.04 + oracle 11g as your search terms
[08:42] <Animus123> cfhowlett:page not found.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Animus123: not sure that link pasted correctly.  try ubuntu 12.04 + oracle 11g as your search terms
[08:42] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Animus123: http://edin.no-ip.com/blog/hswong3i/oracle-database-11g-release-2-ubuntu-12-04-howto
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Animus123: sorry it's partially in chinese...
[08:44] <Animus123> cfhowlett:nope,it's in english!
[08:44] <cc11rocks> Anyone have any idea about the ad-hoc issue?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Animus123: darn great firewall of china is messing with me ...
[08:44] <luftikuss> What IRC network is hosting a radio amateur channel?
[08:45] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok!
[08:46] <Animus123> cfhowlett:the article procedure is suitable for ubuntu server!
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Animus123: should still work for desktop - just more use of the CLI
[08:47] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok!
[08:51] <JPeterson> glebihan: why doesnt chroot /mnt apt-get work?
[08:53] <glebihan> JPeterson, well it does work... but won't do what you're looking for : doing that would be exactly the same thing as running apt-get from your current system
[08:55] <amh345> how can i figure out which of my drives is my os drive and which drive is the one i have to manually mount? im trying to setup an automatic mount for the second drive but i cant tell which is which
[08:55] <cc11rocks_1> (I wish I could connect to cc11rocks's ad-hoc channel...)
[08:55] <amh345> currently im using fdisk -l
[08:57] <luftikuss> amh345, command mount:Look for a single ' / '.
[08:57] <amh345> luftikuss: perfect. i see it.  thank you
[08:59] <JPeterson> why doesnt "sudo chroot /mnt apt-get" from the 12.04 live cd output anthing to stdout or stderr?
[08:59] <bekks> JPeterson: What do you expect?
[09:00] <JPeterson> bekks: the stdout stderr from "apt-get"
[09:00] <glebihan> JPeterson, if you're going to ignore everything that's being told to you, why do you bother asking for help ?
[09:00] <JPeterson> glebihan: no offence but i'm asking for advanced help
[09:00] <bekks> JPeterson: apt-get isnt a valid shell, but a valid executable. The chroot command doesnt know the difference, and just executes apt-get, ,which DOESNT give you a shell where you could see output at all.
[09:00] <glebihan> JPeterson, and you already got 2 answers...
[09:00] <bekks> glebihan: err, 3.
[09:00] <glebihan> bekks, yes 3 now
[09:01] <JPeterson> bekks: thanks for the lecture. can you answer how to redirect stdout now
[09:02] <bekks> JPeterson: Unless you extend apt-get to have to code to act as a shell, there is now way. Use a proper shell like bash instead of apt-get in your command sample.
[09:02] <JPeterson> just give the command. no explanations
[09:02] <JPeterson> do i adda bash -c?
[09:02] <Josh9449> Can someone help me?
[09:02] <bekks> JPeterson: chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[09:02] <glebihan> JPeterson, really ? that's the kind of advanced help you're looking for ???
[09:02] <Josh9449> I have xubuntu though but theres noone in that room
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: state the issue clearly and with details and we'll try
[09:02] <dygey> hi guys. can someone help me a little with conky?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: the issue is???
[09:03] <Josh9449> OK well my network manager isnt working
[09:03] <Josh9449> Its off and im locked out of it i cant click it or anything to turn it on
[09:03] <bekks> glebihan: Obviously.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: dual boot?  boot windows, turn on the hardware switch, reboot ubuntu
[09:04] <Josh9449> I dont have windows
[09:04] <Josh9449> only xubuntu is on it
[09:04] <glebihan> bekks, in case you didn't follow from the beginning, his intention is to reinstall all default packages from the live CD onto his system
[09:04] <glebihan> bekks, we told him to reinstall the whole system
[09:04] <amh345> is linux a valid format of disk?  re: fstab
[09:04] <Josh9449> i checked to make sure the hardware switch was turned on in BIOS
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: so you need to reset the hardware switch in xubuntu.  I THINK there's a way to force it ..
[09:05] <Josh9449> How?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: not sure.  Ask in this channel how to force the hardware switch on in xubuntu.
[09:05] <bekks> glebihan: Sounds like overkill ;) dpkg --get-selection, --set-selection should work too :) But reinstalling is more easy.
[09:05] <JPeterson> bekks. the purpose is to run apt-get on /mnt
[09:05] <Josh9449> Does anyone know how to force the hardware switch in xubuntu???
[09:06] <bekks> JPeterson: Then type apt-get after you got you bash shell.
[09:06] <dygey> ok, no help with conky...a little help with how to copy something or create a new folder in home folder? if i don't ask too much...
[09:06] <Josh9449> I mean force reset
[09:06] <amh345> ok linux is not a valid file system type
[09:06] <bekks> amh345: Expected.
[09:06] <glebihan> bekks, that wouldn't get back to the versions of the packages on the CD (which I can't see why he would need anyway)
[09:06] <bekks> amh345: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:07] <bekks> glebihan: He wants the _versions_ back? :)
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, im trying to remember how to mount a drive permanently
[09:07] <JPeterson> bekks what? that runs apt-get from /mnt/usr/bin/apt-get
[09:07] <glebihan> bekks, why else would he want the packages from he CD ?
[09:07] <bekks> amh345: mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/mydrive :)
[09:07] <Josh9449> Does anyone know how to force reset the hardware switch in xubuntu?
[09:07] <bekks> JPeterson: Yes.
[09:07] <glebihan> JPeterson, of course it does, that's the point of chroot
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, that's all i need in fstab?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !patience|josh9449
[09:07] <bekks> amh345: No :)
[09:07] <bekks> !fstab | amh345
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, the instructions im reading has other details
[09:08] <JPeterson> thanks eisntein. maybe this clears things up:
[09:08] <JPeterson> root@ubuntu:/# apt-get
[09:08] <JPeterson> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:08] <Josh9449> Ive been up all night looking for answeres
[09:08] <Josh9449> thats why i came here
[09:08] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: still gotta be patience.  Nobody here but volunteers and other people with problems...i.e. not necessarily the "experts"
[09:08] <TJ-> amh345: To find out the file-system used in a partition, use for example "sudo blkid /dev/sdaX" and look at the 'TYPE'
[09:09] <glebihan> !attitude | JPeterson
[09:09] <dygey> yeah, even the simplest answers...lol
[09:09] <TJ-> Josh9449: I missed your issue description. What is the problem? WiFi unable to be enabled when you click "Enable Wireless" in the network-manager applet?
[09:10] <Josh9449> TJ theres not even an opt to enable
[09:10] <cfhowlett> TJ-: per his description, the hardware switch is "off" and he needs to reset - xubuntu only
[09:10] <Josh9449> I cant click it period im locked out
[09:10] <Josh9449> Even ethernet wont work
[09:10] <amh345> TJ-: i saw type when i ran mount at command.  it says it's ext4.
[09:10] <TJ-> Josh9449: OK ... have you already sent the file /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?
[09:10] <Josh9449> The only thing that shows is a message that says "NetworkManagr is not running...
[09:11] <Josh9449> when i hover over it with the mouse
[09:11] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: did the network EVER work?  say during live boot installation?
[09:11] <Josh9449> Yea but it never stayed connected for long
[09:11] <TJ-> amh345: Then you'd mount it using "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdX /mnt/point" where "/mnt/point" is a pre-existing empty directory
[09:11] <Josh9449> And it never saved my network for auto connect
[09:12] <TJ-> Josh9449: I'd like to see that file: "/etc/network/interfaces"
[09:12] <Josh9449> In terminal?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !paste|Josh9449:
[09:12] <Josh9449> I cant i dont have internet
[09:12] <Cantide> ...
[09:12] <bekks> You are in the internet, currently.
[09:12] <Josh9449> Its on my laptop im on a seperate computer
[09:13] <dygey> can somebody tell me how to create a folder in /home for that conky????
[09:13] <TJ-> Josh9449: You can copy the contents manually to a pastebin .. goto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <bekks> Josh9449: You can use an USB stick to transfer the error message, or even write it down. :)
[09:13] <TJ-> Josh9449: if that files contains more than 3 or 4 lines I'd be surprised
[09:13] <Josh9449> I dont have a usb stick lol also i typed it into the terminal and it said permission denied
[09:14] <TJ-> Josh9449: do "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:14] <cc11rocks_1> While we are on the subject of networking...
[09:14] <cc11rocks> I am trying to set up a wifi ad-hoc connection - from this computer to one of my laptops. When I try to set it up on here, I get a "network disconnected" notification or other nonsense. Is this a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04?
[09:14] <Josh9449> ok
[09:14] <TJ-> cc11rocks: use 'Log file viewer' to check /var/log/syslog for clues
[09:15] <Josh9449> Im typing it out now give me a minut
[09:15] <TJ-> Josh9449: will do, take your time :)
[09:15] <Josh9449> :)
[09:17] <TJ-> Whilst Josh is busy, can anyone remind me how, on Xubuntu, to run a GUI text edit as root? is it "gksudo mousepad /path/to/file" from an Alt+F2 command dialog?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  that should work.
[09:18] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I thought so - but a long time since I really used one of my Xubuntu notebooks
[09:19] <dygey> can't believe what happened with ubuntu's community...god
[09:19] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/xqhNGYJy
[09:19] <Josh9449> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142651/
[09:19] <Josh9449> There^^^
[09:19] <TJ-> Josh9449: thanks
[09:19] <Josh9449> Yw ":D
[09:20] <TJ-> Josh9449: that explains your problem and the fix is easy...
[09:20] <cc11rocks_1> That is the relevant log post for wifi ad-hoc failing...It does that over and over for each time I try to create a new one (made sure I deleted it first...even logged out and shutdown in between the first few failures)
[09:20] <dygey> or maybe i'm not in the right place?
[09:20] <Josh9449> :O really?
[09:20] <TJ-> Josh9449: Any network interface listed and configured in that file is *ignored* by network-manager since it assumes you want to manually control that interface
[09:20] <Josh9449> How do i fix it?
[09:21] <TJ-> Josh9449: press Alt+F2, at the command prompt type "gksudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces", type your password, then delete the entire every line of that file after "iface lo inet loopback" - leave that line in place. Save the file, then restart the PC
[09:22] <TJ-> Josh9449: So the file will just have "auto lo"  and "iface lo inet loopback" and those lines before those which are comments (start with the # character)
[09:22] <Josh9449> is there a space between gksudo and mousepad? also do i select run in terminal?
[09:22] <sachael_> anyone know an application that can create (and export) good looking gantt chart? like for project planning? i tried planner, but wasnt satisfied with it.
[09:22] <TJ-> Josh9449: yes space... and no to terminal
[09:22] <dygey> working with command line specialists, but nobody can tell me where i can find the home folder
[09:22] <Josh9449> kk
[09:22] <dygey> just sensational
[09:23] <TJ-> Josh9449: that command will start a GUI text editor as the root user so you have permission to edit and save that file
[09:23] <TJ-> dygey: echo $HOME
[09:23] <TJ-> dygey: Or "cd ~"
[09:23] <Josh9449> can you pm this all to me its getting lost in all the text ;lol
[09:23] <cc11rocks_1> TJ - Did you have a go at my log I posted or are you just too busy with all the other folks?
[09:23] <TJ-> Josh9449: Have you started the text editor?
[09:23] <Josh9449> Pm?
[09:23] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I have it but I haven't time to investigate yet. Let me get Josh sorted out
[09:24] <cc11rocks_1> Alrighty, thank you :)
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: no to PM... we prefer to let others learn how to solve problems by being able to watch in here
[09:24] <dygey> TJ-" yeah, cd, echo...tells me nothing. this is the first time i'm seeling linux
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: Once the text editor is started and you can see the contents of the file, delete everything from "# The primary network interface" to the end of the file
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: Then save the file, exit the text editor, and restart the PC
[09:25] <Josh9449> Nothing happened when i typed in the command
[09:25] <TJ-> dygey: "echo $HOME" should report the path to the current user's home directory. "cd ~" will change to the home directory. the "~" command is short for $HOME in most shells on Unux/Linux
[09:25] <bekks> dygey: cd /home/myusername
[09:25] <TJ-> Josh9449: hang on...
[09:25] <Josh9449> :(
[09:25] <Josh9449> ok
[09:26] <TJ-> Josh9449: Anyone with 12.04 Xubuntu, can we check the mousepad is the correct GUI text editor please?
[09:26] <Josh9449> Huh?
[09:26] <TJ-> Josh9449: wait .. I'm asking others to confirm this information for you - that mousepad is the text editor on Xubuntu
[09:26] <Josh9449> ohh
[09:27] <TJ-> Josh9449: It's a long time since I used Xubuntu so I don't have it to hand to check
[09:27] <Josh9449> Oh ok
[09:27] <sachael_> TJ-: mousepad is the text editor
[09:27] <dygey> bekks: thanks.
[09:27] <TJ-> sachael: thank you
[09:28] <W4sp> TJ-: Mousepad is but from command line try nano
[09:28] <TJ-> Josh9449: ok, you probably typed the command slightly wrong
[09:28] <TJ-> W4sp: trying not confuse Josh with nano!
[09:28] <Josh9449> Tell me it again?
[09:28] <TJ-> Josh9449: press Alt+F2, type "gksudo mousepad" ... that should start the GUI text editor
[09:28] <W4sp> TJ-: I tell you so it's in your hands.
[09:29] <TJ-> W4sp: I'm reserving that for the fall-back position :p
[09:29] <Josh9449> i typed it in
[09:29] <Josh9449> it asked for ,y pass and i typd that in too
[09:30] <Josh9449> nothing happened
[09:30] <Josh9449> -_-\
[09:30] <TJ-> Josh9449: oh! so that means mousepad is missing ... no worries, we'll do it from a terminal instead
[09:30] <Josh9449> oh -ok :D
[09:30] <cc11rocks_1> Use the terminal to "enable" mousepad :P (sudo apt-get install mousepad)
[09:31] <TJ-> Josh9449: at a terminal command line type "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" - this should bring up a text based editor with the file loaded ready to edit
[09:31] <cc11rocks_1> Josh9449: Ignore me, listen to TJ-...While what I'm saying is valid, it was more of a joke...
[09:31] <TJ-> cc11rocks: :p
[09:31] <Josh9449> ok lol
[09:31] <TJ-> cc11rocks: We could also just reinstall the entire OS :D
[09:31] <Josh9449> this window popped up
[09:32] <cc11rocks_1> TJ- True, true :P
[09:32] <cc11rocks_1> lolz
[09:32] <TJ-> Josh9449: what's the window?
[09:32] <TJ-> Josh9449: does it show the file contents that you pasted to pastebin?
[09:32] <Josh9449> yes it dfoes
[09:32] <Josh9449> it does
[09:33] <TJ-> Josh9449: Yay! OK ... now the navigation keys are a little strange so take your time.
[09:33] <Josh9449> i think i understand it... lol
[09:33] <TJ-> Josh9449: first, move the cursor down until it is on the line "# The primary network interface"
[09:33] <Josh9449> ok im on it
[09:33] <cc11rocks_1> brb
[09:34] <TJ-> Josh9449: Now we're going to 'kill' that line and everything after it by repeatedly pressing Ctrl+K until they are all gone
[09:34] <dygey> ok, found home folder...next..." Copy ".conky" from downloaded folder to your home directory.Open the "fonts" folder and copy all the fonts to Home/.fonts/".....how to?
[09:34] <emman> am i connected?
[09:34] <Josh9449> there gonr
[09:34] <Josh9449> gone'
[09:34] <dygey> emman:yes, you are
[09:34] <W4sp> emman: You are.
[09:34] <emman> strange
[09:34] <emman> firefox doesnt work
[09:34] <emman> but here oin xchat
[09:34] <emman> im ok
[09:34] <Josh9449> TJ: I did it
[09:35] <tech1> im making a backup script and want it to make a new folder appending current date, eg "foldername-YYMMDD" how do i do this? something like making getting the date in YYMMDD format, applying that to a variable then doing "mkdir foldername-variablename" ?
[09:35] <dygey> emman: give chrome a try
[09:35] <cc11rocks_1> tech1: mkdir $formattedDate
[09:35] <TJ-> Josh9449: Now we'll save the file. press Ctrl+X, press "Y" when asked "Save modified buffer ... ?" and press Enter when asked "File name to Write: ..."
[09:35] <cc11rocks_1> Make a variable that is date formatted/time formatted
[09:35] <emman> npe
[09:35] <emman> chorme
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> tech1  better ask in #bash
[09:35] <emman> doesnt
[09:35] <emman> and thunderbird doesnt
[09:35] <tech1> ok thanks
[09:36] <emman> but xchat does
[09:36] <emman> whats going on?
[09:36] <FloodBot1> emman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <Josh9449> Ok i did it
[09:36] <Josh9449> i pressex control x and enter
[09:36] <TJ-> Josh9449: You're back at the simple command prompt now?
[09:36] <Josh9449> yes
[09:36] <dygey> emman: don't know. new to linux
[09:36] <TJ-> Josh9449: You've fixed it! Restart the PC and see what happens
[09:36] <Josh9449> also sorry im spelling hprrible
[09:36] <Josh9449> iots so hard totyppe o this keyboard
[09:37] <Josh9449> ok restarting now :F
[09:37] <Josh9449> :DD'
[09:37] <dygey> ok guys i'm trying to find out my answers (pretty simple ones i guess) for two hours. this is frustrating
[09:37] <cc11rocks_1> Am I next TJ- ?
[09:37] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I hate queues :p
[09:37] <W4sp> dygey: What are your questions?
[09:37] <Josh9449> I hope that fixed it lol
[09:37] <cc11rocks_1> TJ- So get rid of it :D
[09:38] <cc11rocks_1> But don't call system_dump() :P
[09:38] <Josh9449> IT WORKED!!!!
[09:38] <TJ-> I'm off to make breakfast ... I'll look at it once I return
[09:38] <dygey> w4sp: those
[09:38] <dygey> Copy ".conky" from downloaded folder to your home directory.Open the "fonts" folder and copy all the fonts to Home/.fonts/
[09:38] <TJ-> Josh9449: Congrats
[09:38] <cc11rocks_1> Call Fix_Issues()
[09:38] <Josh9449> THANKS TJ :DDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!
[09:39] <TJ-> cc11rocks:  your log file doesn't reveal anything obvious, we'll need to dig further when I return, unless someone else can help in the menatime
[09:39] <cc11rocks_1> When do you return?
[09:39] <emman> can anyone help me to identify the problem with wireless please?
[09:39] <cc11rocks_1> I don't mind posting more/all of the log
[09:39] <TJ-> cc11rocks: after making bacin and egg sandwich :)
[09:40] <cc11rocks_1> TJ- Alrighty, I'll take my shower now
[09:40] <dygey> emman: try and give the router a restart. just sayin'
[09:40] <cc11rocks_1> I do need to go to bed ASAP though (within 20 min)
[09:40] <cc11rocks_1> Be back in 10ish?
[09:40] <cc11rocks_1> Tj- ?
[09:40] <W4sp> dygey: That's not a question. What's the problem? I don't get it.
[09:41] <TJ-> cc11rocks:  look for lines in /var/log/syslog that come from "wpa_supplicant" - that's the process responsible for doing encrypted WiFi connections
[09:41] <cc11rocks_1> Okay, thanks...What do I do with them?
[09:41] <dygey> W4sp, the question is that i don't know how to do that. i can't paste anything in the home folder and also, i can't find the fonts folder
[09:42] <W4sp> dygey: YOu probably haven't downloaded a folder but an archive file. What did you use to download the file/folder?
[09:44] <dygey> W4sp: indeed, it's an archive. i've extracted it in a separate folder, i can see now what's inside of it, but i have to copy two folders in other folders of my system.that i can't do,don't know why and how
[09:44] <Papa> helooo guys i have an adsl pppoe connection i get fast downloads but browsing is very slow in ubuntu 12.04
[09:45] <yolo1999> sw4g
[09:45] <heisenmink> Papa: perhaps port80 is limited by your ISP
[09:46] <Papa> i am getting this problem in ubuntu based distros only 12.04
[09:46] <cc11rocks> TJ- : http://pastebin.com/ezDf9Bph << There's what I found that looks like errors and such
[09:46] <Papa> 11.10 worked fine for me
[09:46] <Draugauth> How can you tell if your network drivers support ethtool?
[09:47] <cc11rocks_1> I'm afk now for about 10 min
[09:47] <cc11rocks> for shower
[09:47] <W4sp> dygey: No problem. If you say 'see' you probably use  a file manager that shows you the content of the archive. What we need to do is to extract the archive and copy the folder(s) to the location that it requires. I assume therefore you know where the downloaded archive is. Can you tell me from where you downloaded conky so I can do the same?
[09:47] <Papa> hey why i am getting this problem in ubuntu and ubuntu based distros
[09:48] <luftikuss> What DEB program packages provide the Network File System?
[09:48] <Draugauth> Papa:  Check your proxy settings.  I don't have dsl but webbrowsing is fine for me.
[09:49] <dygey> W4sp: it shows me, but i've extracted them also. the instructions, download links and how to are here http://askubuntu.com/questions/134252/is-there-any-alternative-for-windows-gadgets-in-ubuntu
[09:49] <Draugauth> luftikuss:  you talking about NTFS?  They all should.  If ZFS then the solaris group unless you add in support for it.
[09:49] <Draugauth> How can you tell if your network drivers support ethtool?
[09:51] <JPeterson> how do i install a deb file wirhout dpkg, ie extract and copy
[09:51] <luftikuss> Draugauth: I am not talking about NTFS. I am alking about RFC3530.
[09:51] <Draugauth> luftikuss:  Ah that I don't know.  I would have to google it.
[09:51] <Papa> i have dual booted fedora and ubuntu my browsing is fast in fedora ubuntu cannot load a simple website
[09:52] <Draugauth> Papa:  Again like I said check your proxy settings
[09:52] <Papa> i did this sudo pppoeconf but it gets hanged :O
[09:53] <Draugauth> luftikuss:  http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ says it is supported in kernels 2.6 and later
[09:53] <W4sp> dygey: I cannot find a directly linked download location related to conky. That said there is a google search link. The first record on the google results leads me to http://puna.upf.edu/node/44 Is that what you want to do? Installing conky?
[09:54] <luftikuss> Draugauth: Thank you verymuch for your help.
[09:54] <heisenmink> Papa: is your ubuntu running directly off the hard drive? Which browser are you using?
[09:54] <Draugauth> luftikuss:  Anytime
[09:55] <Papa> i am using firefox 14.0.1 yea it is in my dev/sda1
[09:56] <heisenmink> Papa: try if chrome is any faster
[09:56] <dygey> W4sp: if you paste the link i gave you in the browser, it will take you to a askubuntu.com page.at the middle of that page (approx.) is conky and the install tips an how-to. yes, i'm trying to install conky, in 12.04 LTS
[09:57] <Papa> yeaa tried but idk what problem is this website are not opening fully status bar just keeps revolving page is half loaded :O
[09:57] <Papa> i cannot explain how much slow browsing is :O
[09:57] <Draugauth> Papa:  p r o x y   s e t t i n g s     Check them.
[09:57] <W4sp> dygey: OK, is there anything that would have suggested you not to use 'sudo apt-get install conky'?
[09:58] <user> Hello! I have an issue with Ardour. Someone can help?
[09:58] <cael> i have a small issue after upgrading from xubuntu 11.04 to 11.10,  its no longer loading my broadcom based WLAN and intel based LAN at boot. ( i'm running 11.10 on an dell inspiron 1300 if that helps)
[09:58] <Papa> i disabled ipv6 still no result
[09:59] <cc11rocks> TJ- If you are back,
[09:59] <cc11rocks_1> I'm ready
[09:59] <Draugauth> cael:  There is a problem from what I'm hearing with broadcom based wireless nics
[09:59] <dygey> is that simple. i copyed .conky folder, but can't paste it into home directory (also,where is the home folder for sure?) second, i've copyed the fonts, but where is the Home/.fonts/ folder to paste them to?
[09:59] <W4sp> dygey: Also, I can guide you on how to copy those directories.
[09:59] <Draugauth> Papa:  And what about the proxy settings?  which have nothing to do with ipv6 or chrome etc.
[10:00] <cael> Draugauth, i'm used to manually modprob'ing broadcom devices (case in point raspbian (debian for RaspberryPi. having to manually probe the audio) but i didnt have a issue before with the laptop's wifi under 11.04
[10:00] <W4sp> dygey: OK, to identify where your home folder is you can use 'echo $HOME' without the quotes. The outpu tis your home folder.
[10:00] <cael> and papa what do you mean "slow" ? like pages take forever to resolve/load?
[10:00] <Draugauth> cael:  Yeah it seems to be a recen problem so I'm guessing it happened after 11.04
[10:00] <dygey> W4sp: no intention to offend you, but sudo,apt,and the rest sounds SF to me. this is the first time i see linux
[10:01] <tech1> ok iv made a variable containing date and tested it with "echo $ymd" but "mkdir test$ymd" just creates a folder called test?
[10:01] <eboy> Always use echo and variables with double quotes. Like this: echo "$ymd"
[10:01] <Papa> yea cael
[10:01] <W4sp> dygey: To do that use Ctrl+Alt+t to get a terminal and type in the command  'echo $HOME' .
[10:02] <dygey> W4sp:ok, did it
[10:02] <cael> are you using your default ISP's DNS? i had rather slow loading on alot of sites on my isp's own. i get better results using Google's OpenDNS.
[10:02] <cael> and Draugauth , my bad lspci shows the LAN is also Broadcom based
[10:03] <cael> (BCM4401)
[10:03] <Papa> hey i tried to change the dns sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf changed it to google dn but if i reboot it changes to my original isp again :O
[10:03] <Draugauth> cael:  Yeah someone earlier said there was a problem with broadcom.   I saw it on google in passing but didn't read up on it sorry
[10:03] <cael> ahh ok.
[10:03] <cael> and yea i've noticed broadcom isnt really  OpenSource Friendly that much.
[10:04] <W4sp> dygey: The output is your home folder. Now we need to find out what two directories you want to copy. But to be perfectly honest with you, this command will get you there much quicker... 'sudo apt-get install conky' You will be asked for your password and if you want to install conky. Press yes and you get what you want.
[10:04] <ryan1995> Can ubuntu os get viruses etc?
[10:05] <cael> yes, but Linux malware/viruses arent as Widespread as Windows viruses
[10:05] <Nkos231> i know this is not the right channel but i suppose many university students will be here. I want a journal from csiro publishing but my insitute doesn't have access. Can anyone download a paper for me if he has access to this journal?
[10:05] <Draugauth> ryan1995: Yes but the chances of it happening are very very low.
[10:05] <ryan1995> Lol
[10:05] <cc11rocks_1> ryan1995 - Yes, just like any other OS. Though with kernel changes and other upgraded software, along with the low market share of GNU/Linux OS's, you are very much not likely to get one
[10:05] <cael> much like the few for Mac OSX, linux ones still need User intervention.
[10:06] <k1l> Nkos231: better ask offtopic stuff in the offtopic channel
[10:06] <cael> one cant just "slip" in.
[10:06] <W4sp> dygey: It is also the right way to do it. If you install with apt-get it logs what has been installed. Later, if you update our OS the system knows what you have installed and will provide updates for those packages like conky as well. IF you do it manually you are on thin ice. PArticularily as you said you're new to it.
[10:06] <cc11rocks> ryan1995 - Although you can use antivirus software if you wish
[10:06] <dygey> W4sp: looks like it was already installed
[10:06] <ryan1995> Oh ok lol
[10:07] <ryan1995> So i can download torrents, etc and not have to worry?
[10:07] <cc11rocks> Cael - What about flash etc "drive-by" downloads/installs...All OS's are affected by those (some OS's more than others)
[10:07] <luftikuss> W4sp: What IRC network does provide an amateur radio channel?
[10:07] <W4sp> dygey: Fine then, now you need to configure it so it matches your region and so on. IF you get stuck can come back and ask the channel for assistance.
[10:08] <cc11rocks_1> Cael - Like that nasty flame/fire virus that hit the Mac OS...If targeted correctly, it could have hit Ubuntu, Mac, AND Windows with ONE virus
[10:08] <cael> one question though Draugauth , i got used to debian (again via my Ras-Pi) does ubuntu load modules that are listed at boot? and cc11rocks , ones that spread via exploits in say removable media? yea stuff like that is somewhat Platform universal.
[10:08] <k1l> ryan1995: viruses (or malware to be more specific) needs more user intervention due to the design of the rights managment. so if you keep your eyes and mind open it is not gonna happen
[10:08] <ryan1995> Do I need an antivirus?
[10:08] <cael> Not really in linux ryan1995 , but it never hurts to be safe,
[10:09] <ryan1995> I have Xubuntu is it the same thing?
[10:09] <cc11rocks> cael - That is a possibility, but I was talking about viruses that require no user intervention - the ones that you just go to a website and you are infected with. Called a "drive-by" download
[10:09] <cc11rocks> Yes, ryan1995...They use the same technologies that would get infected...
[10:09] <ryan1995> Oh ok lol
[10:09] <cc11rocks> Either way...I currently don't have antivirus on
[10:09] <cc11rocks_1> either of my (Ubuntu) computers
[10:09] <k1l> ryan1995: as an example: dont activate every ppa or .deb package you can find. think about if you really need it and where is the package from
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> !av > ryan1995
[10:10] <cael> ryan1995, yea the versions of ubuntu are just specialised for one spefic WM, Xubuntu is set around XFC, kubuntu around KDE, normal ubuntu around gnome.
[10:10] <ryan1995> Im new to Xubuntu I just netinstalled it onto my laptop
[10:10] <dygey> W4sp: sorry mate, you got me wrong. that was EXACTLY what i was doing. i know my english isn't that good, bout if you were reading what i was saying, you've found out by now what i was trying to do to get this...bag of dirt running.
[10:10] <cael> though i see xubuntu is a lil "peppy" on older hardware,
[10:10] <cc11rocks> webupd8 is a VERY reliable ppa manager that I trust...I tend to be wary of most others if they didn't come from devs
[10:10] <W4sp> dygey: Before you go and focus your undivided attention to your conky let me point you to something that you may need in the future. As mentioned use Ctrl+Alt+t to get to a terminal. You can use cd to change directory or to go to your home folder, cp and mv to copy and move, pwd to shwo your actual directory. To figure out what these commands are type man <command> at the command prompt.
[10:10] <ryan1995> I dont download anything really though
[10:10] <k1l> ryan1995: but in general you can feel quite safe.
[10:10] <cael> (that and i like the XFCE WM, has a verry "OSX-y" feel.
[10:11] <MasterKong> join #windows
[10:11] <ryan1995> I just play online browser game/ stream videos and music
[10:11] <cc11rocks> I have webupd8 ppa's for (Oracle) Java, VLC's (no longer true, but used to use), as well as several  others...
[10:11] <cael> driveby downloads really depend on the browser add-ons etc.
[10:11] <MasterKong> join #windows
[10:11] <ryan1995> Lol
[10:11] <cc11rocks> cael - Is a thing nevertheless
[10:11] <superbbbfab> hello everybody
[10:11] <ryan1995> Hey
[10:12] <cael> it wouldnt hurt to use no-script in firefox it says its only for windows vers of firefox but it works just fine in osx vers and Linux versions.
[10:12]  * Dr_Willis hands MasterKong a /
[10:12] <superbbbfab> someone can help me with playonlinux
[10:12] <cc11rocks> Hello superbbbfab, anything we can help you with?
[10:12] <cc11rocks> superbbbfab - What is wrong? Is there a new version that is to be installed?
[10:12] <Cantide> ryan1995, after more than 2 years of using Ubuntu as my main OS, and without any anti-virus software, I've never gotten a virus (that i've been aware of)
[10:12] <Draugauth> Anyone here a hardware raid user in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <ryan1995> Oh ok Cantide thanks for the insight ȘD
[10:13] <Draugauth> Cantide:  After decades using MS OS's I've never gotten a virus but then I don't open every single thing in the world either /lol
[10:13] <DrManhattan> Draugauth, fakeraid hardware raid or true hardware raid
[10:13] <dygey> W4sp: don't bother man.i'm hard headed.thanks anyway
[10:13] <superbbbfab> i d0n't understand how it works, there is a guide for it?
[10:13] <cael> ryan1995,  though if your going to download/use a "sketchy" file or website.
[10:13] <ryan1995> I dont cael dont worry ȘD
[10:13] <cael> sandbox it in a VM(VirtualMachine)
[10:13] <cc11rocks> Try this to update : wget -q "http://deb.playonlinux.com/public.gpg" -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo wget http://deb.playonlinux.com/playonlinux_precise.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[10:13] <Draugauth> DrManhattan:  True hardware raid (24 port card)
[10:14] <DrManhattan> wow - I've only done fakeraid. Respect.
[10:14] <Cantide> Draugauth, fair enough, but others have infected my MS OS via memory sticks and the like
[10:14] <ryan1995> I have another question Cantide Lol
[10:14] <cc11rocks> playonlinux uses wine (winehq.org) to run/install Windows programs
[10:14] <TJ-> Draugauth: what's the issue?
[10:14] <cael> playonlinux is basicly just a front-end to wine.
[10:14] <Draugauth> Cantide:  Ah I don't even let my family ony my systems except in a VERY restricted account
[10:14] <ryan1995> Nvm I fixed it
[10:14] <Cantide> that's the safest way :)
[10:14] <dygey> ok, guys...can someone give me some real help with conky? or i'm asking too much?
[10:14] <sahaquiel> aww yeah, 20 days uptime on my crappy notebook
[10:14] <cc11rocks> playonlinux uses the most compatible version of wine for the most popular programs and games
[10:15] <Cantide> ryan1995, sure :) although I'm not very knowledgeable :)
[10:15] <cc11rocks> TJ- Can you help me real quick? I'm supposed to be in bed...
[10:15] <Cantide> oh...
[10:15] <Draugauth> TJ-:  I am able to achieve 200MB writes over the network via 2 systems writing to it but can only get 45-50MB reads over the network via the same 2 systems.
[10:15] <Cantide> whew :)
[10:15] <ryan1995> How do you change your keyboard?
[10:15] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Did you find any mentions of wpa_supplicant?
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  depends on the help. conky has a huge amount of info out there on the web
[10:15] <DrManhattan> it's a shame you can't get better gaming in linux like you could in the good old days of counter-strike
[10:15] <Draugauth> DrManhattan:  I got my card for a good deal.   350 and I got 4 of the 6 cables with it ;)
[10:15] <ryan1995> It gives me wierd symbols that arent there when i press some keys
[10:15] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/ezDf9Bph
[10:15] <sahaquiel> DrManhattan: let's hope steam on linux changes that!
[10:15] <superbbbfab> but i 've to disinstall playonlinux?
[10:15] <cc11rocks> I can give you more if you need it...
[10:15] <Draugauth> DrManhattan:  L4D runs smoother and faster on Linux.   Valve proved it via steam.
[10:16] <cc11rocks> superbbbfab - to uninstall, run "sudo apt-get purge playonlinux"
[10:16] <TJ-> Draugauth: Is dmcrypt in use? Are you using NFS for the network?
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> superbbbfab: playonlinux uses wine
[10:16] <cc11rocks> That will get rid of it completely...
[10:16] <dygey> Dr_Willis: yeah, a huge amount not for the begginers in linux
[10:16] <W4sp> dygey: I'm female but will pass your wishes along when I get a chance to see one. LOL.
[10:16] <DrManhattan> i'd be stoked to be able to play cs:s on linux but source engine is so old
[10:16] <DrManhattan> bf3 or die
[10:16] <Draugauth> TJ-:  NTFS (waiting on 5 more HDDs to switch over to NFS/ZFS)  didn't install dmcrypt.  How can I find out if it is on?
[10:17] <cc11rocks> TJ- I didn't know what to cut out or not...if you need more, I don't mind posting more...
[10:17] <Cantide> in a way i see the lack of gaming on Linux a blessing in disguise - less distractions :p
[10:17] <cael> it took awhile to fully run (well unoffically) my fav MMO on WINE.
[10:17] <TJ-> Draugauth: dmcrypt would only be if you're using LUKS to encrypt the block devices
[10:17] <dygey> W4sp: then sorry for the "man" thing
[10:17] <cael> "Final Fantasy XI"
[10:17] <superbbbfab> to play windows games i can use also only wine? or it's important also playonlinux?
[10:17] <Draugauth> TJ-:  I didn't install LUKS and honestly don't know what it is ;)
[10:17] <cael> well you need wine reguardless playonlinux just makes it easier to install games/apps
[10:17] <cc11rocks> Cantide - Over the past couple months, I've come up with a HUGE list of games for GNU/Linux OS's...And Steam is coming to GNU/Linux in a few months, etc
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> superbbbfab: playonlinux is a frindlier frontend to wine
[10:18] <Matan[M]> hello, someone know how to integrate x-chat with chat/mail menu in u12.04?
[10:18] <DrManhattan> yeah but steam going doesn't mean steam GAMES are going
[10:18] <DrManhattan> and like I said, bf3 or die.
[10:18] <cc11rocks> But it's the START of something...
[10:18] <TJ-> Draugauth: Good ... one less thing to consider! ... So the file-systems are NTFS ... how are they being shared over the network if not NFS? Samba ?
[10:18] <Draugauth> Steam has already converted L4D to Linux OGL.   Some others are in the works as well.
[10:19] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Yes Samba.
[10:19] <DrManhattan> if bf3 goes over ill leave windows.
[10:19] <cc11rocks> L4D runs BETTER on GNU/Linux than on Windows (if I remember my sources correctly)
[10:19] <Cantide> as Linux gains steam (pun intended) i'm sure more and more games will come, too
[10:19] <superbbbfab> dr willis sorry i don't understand "frindlier frontend "
[10:19] <DrManhattan> yeah dude but thats SO OLLD
[10:19] <cael> yea DrManhattan , some games that srecive regular updates at one version can make it run just fine on linux,  while one can make it run like crap and another outright Break it.
[10:19] <Draugauth> cc11rocks:  Nixie Pixel says so so we know it's true!  ;)
[10:19] <TJ-> Draugauth: OK ... I think it could be a SMB/CIFS issue
[10:19] <cc11rocks> Draugauth :D
[10:19] <cc11rocks> TJ- Did that post help?
[10:19] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Any suggestions?
[10:19] <ryan1995> ;D
[10:20] <DrManhattan> play bf3 on win7 64 bit on a 570 or better - THATS the graphics I want
[10:20] <DrManhattan> almost real
[10:20] <extropy> I'm a noob, but porting that many games to linux is going to take some man power, I wonder if Valve is hiring right now, I'll bet it's chaos there right now.
[10:20] <cael> some updates to FFXI thru the years were a Example of that. and the recent update Completly broke it under some distro's (Gentoo it just crashes)
[10:20] <Draugauth> extropy : Yes Valve is hiring like mad
[10:20] <ryan1995> I work for valve
[10:20] <ryan1995> Loljk
[10:20] <DrManhattan> americas army on linux used to be great
[10:20] <DrManhattan> sort of
[10:21] <DrManhattan> without respawn it wasn't fun
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> works for Apature
[10:21] <cael> if its a poor minecraft joke then ryan1995  " i'm from planetminecraft, can i have op? :D"
[10:21] <DrManhattan> the army would have gotten more combat ready recruits
[10:21] <dygey> one last try: any help from someone with conky, instead of misunderstanding guys and refferences to "search the web"?
[10:21] <cc11rocks> How many times do you have to drain/full a laptop battery to get it at max capacity?
[10:21] <DrManhattan> I suspect they were trying to see if remote infantry was possible
[10:21] <OerHeks> lots opf chit-chat, no help for dygey
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  you need to ask the real question and see who can help
[10:22] <Draugauth> dygey:  Sorry I haven't used it.
[10:22] <DrManhattan> cc11rocks, once
[10:22] <extropy> what kind of background wouldy ou actually need to get hired at Steam to work on *nix stuff?
[10:22] <TJ-> Draugauth: I see mentions that sometimes it can be caused by the NICs not being in full-duplex mode as well as other things you can check. Take a look at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html#id2690952
[10:22] <Draugauth> cc11rocks:  You will never get it to full capacity.  It slowly degrades
[10:22] <DrManhattan> extropy, you'd have to be linus torvalds boyfried.
[10:22] <cc11rocks> Okay...Tested out a game and stuff with charger in a couple times. I'm letting it drain now. It'll still be mostly there, right? Draugauth - I know that
[10:22] <DrManhattan> friend
[10:22] <cael> i can make an example this battery in my inspiron, is so dead the system just doesnt even recognise it's connected.
[10:22] <extropy> that's it?
[10:22] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Can you tell me what the WiFi device is? "lspci -nn" would help to begin with assuming it's a PCI device, not USB
[10:23] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Alright I will check it out.  hopefully it will give some tips
[10:23] <cc11rocks> TJ- Funny how I ran lspci a couple min ago
[10:23] <dygey> Dr_Willis: what question do you want to hear? the question is that i don't know hou to do this "Copy ".conky" from downloaded folder to your home directory.Open the "fonts" folder and copy all the fonts to Home/.fonts/"...
[10:23] <TJ-> Draugauth: focus on the network link layer ... on both the clients and the server
[10:23] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Did you pastebin it?
[10:23] <Draugauth> TJ-:  But if it was the link layer wouldn't it cause problems both ways?
[10:24] <cc11rocks> TJ- lspci -nn << http://pastebin.com/26x47Pzq
[10:24] <JPeterson> how do i get the current deb package name for a package? for example how do i translate apt to apt_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  the archive you downloaded.. extract it somewhere.. fine the .conky file. copy it to your /home/yourusername directory
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  sure it dident say .conkyrc ?
[10:25] <TJ-> Draugauth: not necessarily... these things are complex beasts... at the very least, prove that the network isn't the issue and try to isolate the issue to one side of the link, and then monitor processes i/o performance and so forth
[10:25] <extropy> anyone here pretty savvy with postfix?
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  in your home directory make a .fonts directory, copy the font files to it
[10:25] <cc11rocks> TJ- 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 [8086:088e] (rev 24)
[10:25] <cc11rocks> It supports Wifi direct, promise :)
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> dygey: ctrl-h in the file manager shows the . type files
[10:26] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Well easy test.   copy from 1 gaming system to the other (both have SSD in Raid 0 so can hit 1GB read speeds) and I got 87MB+ speeds
[10:26] <TJ-> cc11rocks: now give me "sudo lspci -nnvv -s 2:0.0"
[10:26] <cc11rocks> What does this command do?
[10:26] <Draugauth> TJ-:  So that would point at something other than the network right?
[10:26] <superbbbfab> I can not start a  full rip game on playonlinux
[10:26] <TJ-> Draugauth: I meant to test the server network link. you've got 2 into 1 there... there's collisions and all sorts could be going on
[10:26] <dygey> Dr_Willis:ok. where can i find the .fonts folder?i only see a .fontconfig folder
[10:27] <TJ-> cc11rocks: it'll list all the gory details of that device
[10:27] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/YzLugk97
[10:27] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Ok so test from the server to one of them.  Not a problem.
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  make it.. in your home dir.. /home/yourusername/.fonts
[10:27] <JPeterson> A: since no one here can answer an advanced question. the answer is xpath http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/*/download
[10:27] <cc11rocks> TJ- Think this is the interesting part >> Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi       Kernel modules: iwlwifi
[10:28] <Draugauth> JPeterson:  And that answer is to what question?
[10:28] <cc11rocks> Though I don't know :O
[10:28] <dygey> Dr_Willis: ok, two seconds
[10:28] <JPeterson> [12:24] <JPeterson> how do i get the current deb package name for a package? for example how do i translate apt to apt_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[10:28] <Draugauth> JPeterson:  Ah ok
[10:28] <extropy> apt-get install [name of package] ...
[10:28] <cc11rocks> apt-cache show <package>
[10:28] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I think you may be affected by bug #1030123
[10:29] <cc11rocks> Ah, CRAP!
[10:29] <cc11rocks> I'm running -29 kernel though..bug is for -27
[10:30] <TJ-> cc11rocks: bug reports says last working 3.2 was -26 ... try installing the latest mainline build of v3.5 ... I run that here
[10:30] <TJ-> cc11rocks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[10:30] <Draugauth> TJ-:  Ok Ubuntu is timing out when I try to open the workgroup.  Any ideas?
[10:31] <cc11rocks> TJ- Don't they tweak the kernel that comes with this. Wouldn't I lose the kernel options that they turn on/off?
[10:31] <W4sp> dygey: As this is directly aimed to me ... I told you to repeat your question as I joined later. Don't blame Ubuntu or others for your lack of communication skills.
[10:31] <TJ-> Draugauth: I've tried to stay away from SMB/CIFS since it is such a mess, so I can't be much more use to you. But it sounds like you're starting to get closer to an explanation and fix
[10:32] <TJ-> cc11rocks: No, we build the mainline kernels and package them using the same kernel config
[10:32] <cc11rocks> TJ- And do I have to build my own kernel?
[10:32] <cc11rocks> TJ- Yay!
[10:32] <Draugauth> Anyone have any ideas on why I can't browse my network on my ubuntu machine but my systems can see and use the shares on it?
[10:32] <extropy> Ubuntu's main focus is just user friendliness, isn't it?
[10:32] <TJ-> cc11rocks: no, you go read that page... we provide prebuild .deb files to install. You'll need to install 3 or 4 .debs by downloading them and then using dpkg -i ...
[10:33] <cc11rocks> TJ- Okay, thanks!
[10:33] <TJ-> Draugauth: I'd be looking at WINS server issues for that
[10:33] <cc11rocks> TJ- = BEAST MODE ACTIVATE (BMA)!!!
[10:33] <Draugauth> TJ-:  I don't have a WINS server running yet.
[10:33] <Rockhound> hello guys i want to make my vim fully loaded ide..anybody know how to do tht?
[10:33] <cscsaba> hello, does anybody use AudaCity to record online streams ?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Draugauth: try entering the smb url directly in nautilus uisng the ip# not hostname   ie:    smb://192.168.1.100/sharename
[10:33] <dygey> W4sp: i have repeated it two times for you. i know i'm kinda stupid, but accusing me for communications skill lack because you didn't understood...have a nice day.
[10:34] <TJ-> Draugauth: Hmmm... that might be an issue then. You can configure samba to run a wins deamon for the network
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> or do i have / and \ backwards..
[10:34] <TJ-> Draugauth: Dr_Willis idea is a good one
[10:34] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I always forget that too!!
[10:34] <Marzata> dunno is this the correct place to ask but ... in the dd-wrt router we have port forwarded ssh from 7022 to soma inside machine at 22 port, the question is how to connect from outside?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> hostname resoultion in samba always m esses up in nautilus for me
[10:34] <cc11rocks> TJ- So do 3.5.1-quantal?
[10:34] <Rockhound> hello
[10:35] <cc11rocks> That looks to be the most latest, stable one (without an "RC" tag)
[10:35] <Draugauth> DR_Willis:  Trying that now.
[10:35] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Yes, that will do
[10:35] <cc11rocks> Alrighty
[10:36] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  How do I enter it?  Only thing I could find is search
[10:36] <TJ-> cc11rocks: you'll need the linux-image, linux-image-extra linux-headers-*all and linux-headers* for your archituecture
[10:36] <TJ-> cc11rocks: so either i386 or amd64 packages, but don't mix them
[10:36] <extropy> Marzata: if the port is forwarded (and allowed, prerouted) you should be able to connect just fine
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Draugauth:  ctrl- to see the address bar
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-l
[10:36] <cc11rocks> TJ- Yep, got it
[10:36] <extropy> Marzata: never messed with dd-wrt thou
[10:37] <dygey> Dr_Willis: conky up'n runnin', as it in the pictures found on the internet. too hard for the others to understant that i only wanted to find out how to copy two folders. thanks man.;-)
[10:37] <Marzata> extropy: but how to use ssh command to connect?
[10:37] <TJ-> cc11rocks: good luck. I have to go for a walk
[10:37] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  Ctrl - just makes the icons smaller in the window.   I'm running Unity
[10:37] <cc11rocks> TJ- I need everything in that folder EXCEPT the arch. I'm not using right? Inc. the patches and stuff
[10:37] <cc11rocks> TJ- Grazie milli (Thanks a million - Itilian)
[10:37] <TJ-> cc11rocks: no... which arch are you using?
[10:37] <cc11rocks> On this one, x64
[10:38] <cc11rocks> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.1-quantal/
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> dygey:  bash basics ;) people get confused by .fileas and user dirs that are need to be made
[10:38] <TJ-> cc11rocks: linux-headers-3.5.1-030501-generic_3.5.1-030501.201208091310_amd64.deb linux-headers-3.5.1-030501_3.5.1-030501.201208091310_all.deb  linux-image-3.5.1-030501-generic_3.5.1-030501.201208091310_amd64.deb  	linux-image-extra-3.5.1-030501-generic_3.5.1-030501.201208091310_amd64.deb
[10:38] <extropy_> Marzata: same way you normally use SSH but with ":7022" tacked onto the address
[10:38] <cc11rocks> TJ- Okay, thanks again!
[10:39] <TJ-> cc11rocks: good luck; I'm away for now
[10:39] <cc11rocks> TJ- up & away
[10:39] <Draugauth> Ok using the Unity "search" I get the error "Could not display "smb//xxxxxx" Error: Failed to mount Windows share"
[10:39] <Marzata> extropy: aha thanks only :7022 is enough
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> Draugauth: smb://
[10:40] <dashavoo> anyone know where I can get a deb for the old version of skype? I just upgraded it and it is horribly unstable, moreso than previously, I can't keep a call going for longer than 5 minutes.
[10:40] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  Yeah I did that.  Sorry I missed it when retyping it over here.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> Draugauth: findsmb and smbtree commands may show some info also
[10:40] <rokra> Hi , I have an issue since I installed ubuntu. I m not able to boot windows7. When I select win7 in the grub , the grub seems to restart and ask me to select again?
[10:40] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  Ok I got it by leaving out the directory name.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Draugauth:  your shares dont have spaces in the names?
[10:41] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  Ok copying from this system to the ubuntu system it is hitting 95MB.   So it seems to be when reading from the ubuntu system to the win7 systems.
[10:42] <Spoonless> Hi all
[10:42] <Draugauth> Dr_Willis:  That one didn't but I think I found the oops.    It was a nested directory so I think I needed the full path.   But yeah I just hit 97MB so it isn't a network issue.
[10:43] <Spoonless> Can anyone give me a hand with some Live Usb trouble I've been having? Or is this not the place?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Spoonless:  state the issue,
[10:45] <Draugauth> samba is /etc/samba/samba.conf right?
[10:45] <Spoonless> Attempted to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a thumb drive so that I could live boot it. The terminal instructions on the site didn't work for me so I used Unetbootin, but that creates a bootable USB that works on windows, not Mac, which I wasn't aware of. I'd like to make one that I can boot on my MBP.
[10:46] <Draugauth> Spoonless: Format the USB in the mac file type and try it.  I had a problem with unetbootin in FAT not working on my server but NTFS did.
[10:46] <Spoonless> So GUID?
[10:46] <extropy> mac's like GPT right?
[10:47] <Matan[M]> hello, someone know how to integrate x-chat with chat/mail menu in u12.04?
[10:47] <Spoonless> The thing is, Unetbootin states that the created USB won't work on Mac after it's done installing.
[10:47] <extropy> when I boot from pen drives I almost always end up using good old fashion FAT
[10:47] <KatsumeBlisk> Spoonless: If I'm not mistaken, you hold down a key when booting from USB on a mac to do it. I'm not a Mac expert though.
[10:48] <qualia> So if i download an ISO of a distro for pen drive, can I boot it from my local drive
[10:48] <extropy> KatsumeBlisk: not a mac user, but that's still good to know
[10:48] <extropy> qualia: the boot sector has to be written to, but otherwise yeah, it's pretty much as simple as all that
[10:48] <Spoonless> KatsumeBlisk: Hold down the Option key to show available startup disks. The usb doesn't show up though.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> qualia: easier to put it on a usb
[10:48] <KatsumeBlisk> extropy: I don't ever deal with Macs, so I'm kind of guessing. lol.
[10:48] <Spoonless> Damn.
[10:48] <KatsumeBlisk> Spoonless: Ah. Then I can't help. I don't use Macs ever.
[10:49] <KatsumeBlisk> Spoonless: Sorry mate.
[10:49] <Spoonless> No worries, thanks for the help anyway.
[10:49] <Spoonless> :)
[10:50] <extropy> Last time I tried to install from a pen drive following the instructions on Ubuntu's site things didn't pan out, data corruption, flash drive fried, etc ... I just use CDs now
[10:50] <extropy> plus Flash memory is really slow
[10:50] <qualia> Wish i knew anything about writing to boot sector Im still practising C
[10:50] <KatsumeBlisk> extropy: CDs are slower than USB.
[10:50] <gmagno> hello. I'm using the super key to open applications menu ("start" menu) but I'm also using super+'e' to open thunar. Everytime I open thunar the applications menu also pops up because  super key was pressed  as wel. Is there any trick to make this not happen?
[10:50] <extropy> USB itself, yes
[10:50] <extropy> but the r/w speed of some crappy Sandisk Cruzer, nah
[10:50] <Spoonless> I would do that, install from a CD and specify the USB as the install site, but my Optical drive is busted...
[10:51] <gmagno> btw, I'm using a xubuntu 12.04
[10:51] <KatsumeBlisk> extropy: It depends on the drive. You can't call an entire form of media slower than another when you use slow forms of that media. :P
[10:51] <extropy> actually ... really?
[10:52] <mhahe> i remember a command line shortcut to open vim and edit one or more lines in vim and then execute after done. anybody know this one?
[10:52] <mhahe> it might be related vi mode 'set -o vi'
[10:52] <extropy> USB 2.0 is 480/mbs but I've never actually seen it do more than 25MB/s
[10:53] <extropy> DVD 24x is ~ 33MB/s
[10:53] <Spoonless> Draugauth: You mentionned formatting the usb into mac file type. You meant formatting it into GUID?
[10:53] <W4sp> mhahe: That would be for tcsh and csh.
[10:54] <extropy> ugh, I hate it when I type "calc" and hit [enter] from "Dash Home" and it pulls up LibreOffice for some reason, think I'll just remove it. Who uses spreadsheets anyway?
[10:54] <Draugauth> Spoonless:  That's the only thing I can suggest.  I'm not a MAC fan personally.  Don't get me wrong MAC is a good PC and all but I don't like the parent company ;)
[10:55] <extropy> ok, it's because it's *called* "LibraOffice Calc" ... I'm a dumbass
[10:55] <extropy> why don't they just call it was it is? "LibraOffice Spreadsheet"
[10:56] <Draugauth> Spoonless:  But I know on my P5NSLI motherboard I could not boot from any USB formatted as FAT16 or FAT 32.  I had to use NTFS.  So it's worth a try.
[10:56] <extropy> weird, from my systems I have an easy time booting from FAT16 but NTFS is a no go, how new is the Apple product?
[10:57] <OerHeks> !ot | extropy
[10:57] <Guest54859> hello
[10:58] <extropy> ubottu: if I don't know what comment you're referring do then your words of warning are only so useful to me
[10:58] <extropy> robots could at least quote me ... o.O
[10:58] <Spoonless> Extropy: 3 years, running 10.6.8
[10:58] <Draugauth> extropy:  Yeah ubottu isn't to smart.  Since we are talking about ubuntu /lol
[10:58] <W4sp> mhahe: Press the excape key.
[10:59] <extropy> guessing it was the "apple" keyword then ...
[10:59] <glebihan> extropy, there was no keyword
[10:59] <extropy> always wanted to make an eggie ...
[10:59] <glebihan> extropy, you're just offtopic
[10:59] <shaneloots> hi everyone. can someone help me? when installing ubuntu i have to use nomodeset to get a display picture then all goes fine untill it finishes loading at the purple screen. then i get a pinkish background and a mouse pointer and nothing else. it freezes their. i cant get to terminal either using ctrl alt t
[11:00] <extropy> glebihan: if you're human please cite the allegely off-topic quote you're referring to
[11:00] <Draugauth> glebihan:  Except he wasn't off-topic as we are trying to help Spoonless with his Ubuntu install issue which thus is on topic.
[11:00] <mhahe> W4sp, i know how to enter 'command mode'. what i need is the command to take the current commands/text and send that to vim temporarily for full vi functionality and easy multiline editing and then execute it. im searching for it now
 weird, from my systems I have an easy time booting from FAT16 but NTFS is a no go, how new is the Apple product?
[11:01] <glebihan> extropy, as well as your libreoffice story
[11:01] <Draugauth> glebihan:  Yes which is dealing with Spoonless's issue.  FTT ;)
[11:01] <shaneloots> maybe i need to enable drivers or something but how?
[11:02] <extropy> well la de da ... anyway, *this* conversation is off-topic ... so moving on
[11:03] <casbo> .
[11:03] <shaneloots>  hi everyone. can someone help me? when installing ubuntu i have to use nomodeset to get a display picture then all goes fine untill it finishes loading at the purple screen. then i get a pinkish background and a mouse pointer and nothing else. it freezes their. i cant get to terminal either using ctrl alt t
[11:03] <Spoonless> Forgive my noobish comment, but when formatting a drive, the only formats available to me are a bunch of "Mac OSX Extended", "Ms-Dos FAT", "ExFat" and "Free Space." What were the formats you were referring to, NTFS, FAT16, FAT 32. Could the problem be there?
[11:04] <extropy> OS-X itself has supported GUID Patrition Tables since version 10.4.0 if that helps
[11:04] <Guest54859> hello
[11:04] <extropy> I know OpenBSD likes GUID .. can't see why OS-X would be any different
[11:05] <extropy> though I guess this assumes that the harware bundle with GUID-friendly OS-X would support GUID, can't really assume I guess.
[11:07] <Spoonless> I can use GUID, Apple partition or MBR. Somehow, whenever I try to bind a .img file to my newly formatted GUID thumb drive, I turns to MBR upon completion and tells me "this disk can't be read on this computer."
[11:07] <extropy> shaneloots: when you installed Ubuntu did you select the "Download updates while installing"?
[11:07] <extropy> I seem to have similar problems if I try to do that. Seems to work better if I install the ISO "vanilla" and *then* update
[11:07] <Spoonless> It's really getting to me, I've tried various variations on dd, to no avail.
[11:07] <TJ-> Spoonless: Have you seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key
[11:08] <Guest39671> anyone can you please help me changing gdm background @ xubuntu ?
[11:08] <shaneloots> extropy: not that i know of? could it be enabled by defult?
[11:08] <extropy> Spoonless: sounds like the .img file your writing has it's own partition table built-in
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Guest39671:  edit the image file in /usr/share/backgrounds/  would be one way. ;) backup the original
[11:09] <extropy> the method I like for Flash drives is to just install that partition table / bootloader and simply copy the content of the ISO to the flash drive
[11:09] <Draugauth> How do I reenable eth0 and eth1?
[11:09] <Draugauth> For some reason last reboot they stopped auto enabling
[11:09] <extropy> though I haven't done the pen drive thing it a while ... it keeps bricking my drives T:
[11:10] <Spoonless> extopry: I'm afraid that seems to be beyond my capabilities. I just convert the .iso to an .img with hdiutil, then dd it over to my usb. How would I do what you're describing?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> if you dd an iso file to flash. ive always had to dd' from /dev/zero to the flash then use gparted to repatition it to return it to 'normal'
[11:11] <Guest39671> thanks Dr_Willis will try now
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> Spoonless:  i just dd the iso file. no need to converet
[11:11] <TJ-> shaneloots: With "nomodeset" it is possible the correct xserver driver for the video adaptor refuses to load and the system falls back to the VESA or framebuffer drivers, both of which can fail to select a valid mode. If you remove "nomodeset" and let the PC boot and get all the way to the GUI log-in (even if the screen is blank whilst booting) can you then get correct graphics?
[11:12] <Spoonless> Dr_Willis: So dd the .iso over with UDRW or Rdxx?
[11:12] <shaneloots> TJ-: i have tried to leave it without nomodeset but after 10 min the screen stays black.
[11:13] <Draugauth> How do I reenable eth0 and eth1?
[11:13] <TJ-> shaneloots: That's .... annoying .... !
[11:13] <Spoonless> Dr_Willis: I've only been converting because that's what the instructions on the site said to do.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Spoonless:  no idea on thet i just use pcs and linux, no m acs. i do find just dding the iso works better then the various flash-drive utils
[11:13] <extropy> man hdiutil
[11:13] <extropy> oops, wrong window, lol
[11:14] <Spoonless> lol
[11:14] <shaneloots> TJ-: yes and i really want this to work but cant even get the thing to install. iv tried wubi and cd install so far.
[11:14] <TJ-> shaneloots: When the PC is at the weird pink-background window, can you get to a virtual terminal (VT) using Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Spoonless:  since 12.04 at least you can dd the iso straight. befor that.. you couldent.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> may be in 11.10 you could.. not sure
[11:15] <extropy> sounds like he's making his USB stick from MacOS
[11:15] <shaneloots> i can go try that if i get one what should i do? i couldnt get a normal terminal using cntrl alt t.
[11:15] <Spoonless> Alright then, I'll give that a try. Other wise, would there be a way to me to make a small partition on my HD to assign the iso to? Without wiping the drive obviously.
[11:15] <execc> the gdm image is not in  /usr/share/backgrounds/
[11:15] <extropy> I don't get why it should be so hard though. There really isn't much to a boot sector is there?
[11:15] <execc> any other place it could be? or the script file of the gdm?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> used to be in backgrounds.. not looked for it in ages
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> i use lightd, these days.
[11:18] <Spoonless> Anyway to assign the iso right to a new partition on my harddisk?
[11:18] <mowol> i have a UTF-8 file that i need to be in ANSI encoding. Any ideas to do so? iconv gives an error..
[11:18] <Draugauth> Ok somehow I fubared my network connections on the ubuntu system.   suggestions on where to look?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png   is not the image execc ?
[11:18] <shaneloots> TJ-: i can go try that if i get one what should i do? i couldnt get a normal terminal using cntrl alt t.
[11:19] <execc> @Dr_Willis gonna check now
[11:19] <Spoonless> I'll go try using the iso as is. Thanks guys.
[11:19] <TJ-> shaneloots: Terminals come from Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6 ... you can switch back to GUI from a VT with Alt+F7 (or sometimes Alt+F8 if VT8 is handling the GUI)
[11:19] <ashi> hi
[11:19] <ashi> hi
[11:19] <ashi> hi
[11:20] <FloodBot1> ashi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <execc>  not in here p@p:/usr/share/backgrounds$ ls space-01.jpg  space-02.jpg  space-03.jpg
[11:20] <ashi> anybody there
[11:20] <shaneloots> JT-: ok and if i do get a terminal then what should i do?
[11:21] <shaneloots> TJ-: ok and if i do get a terminal then what should i do?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> execc: space? the defaul image has been /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png  perhaps the new gdm is looking elsewhere then
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> check the gdm configs i guess
[11:22] <TJ-> shaneloots: I'm not sure... but at least it gives the prospect of digging around in the logs and changing configuration to test it more
[11:23] <extropy> warty warthog? .. man ... it's been years
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> extropy:  thats been the default image name for ages. ;)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !warty
[11:23] <extropy> that was the first version of ubuntu I ever used
[11:24] <extropy> didn't know it was the first
[11:24] <shaneloots> JT-: ok well ill go try get a terminal quick and then come back and report.
[11:24] <shaneloots> TJ-: ok well ill go try get a terminal quick and then come back and report.
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> just think.. if that was a 5 year lts... it would still be supported. ;)  5 yrs is like.. eons in pc time
[11:25] <Marzata> what is the file where vino-preferences settings are saved in?
[11:25] <extropy> eons on moore's law time I guess
[11:26] <Draugauth> Ok I'll just reinstall ubuntu tomorrow after I wake up then to fix the network issues.  Night all
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> unless its a kernel bug..
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[11:27] <extropy> man, I had to reinstall ubuntu just because I fubar'd my postfix config ... hate solving problems that was but sometimes it shaves literally days off the learning curve
[11:28] <extropy> time = money ... and test boxes are you friend
[11:28] <extropy> I'm getting in the habit of documenting every last little thing I do just so undoing it later becomes less of a hassle
[11:28] <root_> h
[11:28] <Morgoroth> Bonjour quelqu'un comprend le Français?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[11:29] <extropy> bein! xD
[11:29] <Morgoroth> ok merci
[11:30] <extropy> !sw
[11:30] <Draugauth> hah fixed it.  Gave it one last try before bed /lo
[11:30] <extropy> isn't Ubuntu a Swahili word?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> extropy  zulu
[11:31] <extropy> ah, Zulu
[11:31] <eboy> extropy: Zulu
[11:31] <extropy> !zu
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> safari is swahili, 'distant travel' or so
[11:32] <extropy> lol, nice
[11:32] <bazhang> !ot
[11:32] <Draugauth> of course no changes to samba but now I can't access the shares /sigh
[11:32] <Enzo_cc> :)
[11:33] <extropy> don't you need liek a bunch of stuff to get samba working these days like binding to kerberos or something?
[11:33] <extropy> I haven't messed with SMB in years
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i find window netowkrks/samba to not work.. the 5 min later it starts working...
[11:34] <extropy> especially since I literally just wiped all my windows boxes and put Ubuntu on all of them
[11:34] <bazhang> !samba | extropy have a read
[11:34] <extropy> thank ubottu
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> i share my videos to the windows boxs via upnp mainly these days
[11:35] <luftikuss> What IRC network does provide an amateur radio channel?
[11:35] <Wavesonics> hi
[11:35] <mlkushan> Hi all, My question is related to libseccomp library. Does anyone knows, how to analyze the output of the seccomp_filter_pfc() log? Log says "if ($syscall == 252) action ALLOW;" but I can't figure out what is syscall #252.
[11:35] <amarcolino> hi does anyone know how to temporarily turn off compression when using mobile broadband?
[11:36] <bazhang> !alis | luftikuss have a search
[11:36] <Wavesonics> I've just got Conky setup on my netbook with the clock ring theme, really awesome. but the disk and net read outs arent drawing their rings, anyone seen anything like this?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Wavesonics:  the config looking for the wrong disks/mount points  - most likely issue
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> same for networking
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> conky configs are often very machine specific ;(
[11:38] <Wavesonics> Dr_Willis, ah v likely, my disk is partitioned stranely on here
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> i only use the most basic of conky setups
[11:39] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> ive totally frogotten your problem luftikuss  ;)
[11:39] <extropy> still think conky's logo should be a ventriloquist dolls' face.
[11:40] <bazhang> !ot | extropy
[11:40] <extropy> already tehre bazhang ... already there
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> ive had issues with conky under unity and gnome-shell, so ive not even been using it lately
[11:41] <amarcolino> hi does anyone know how to temporarily turn off compression when using mobile broadband? Would like to see the full image quality while browsing
[11:42] <mlkushan> Hi all, My question is related to libseccomp library. Does anyone knows, how to analyze the output of the seccomp_filter_pfc() log? Log says "if ($syscall == 252) action ALLOW;" but I can't figure out what is syscall #252.
[11:42] <Matan> hello, someone know hopw to integrate x-chat with chat/mail menu in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:42] <bazhang> Matan, with xchat-indicator ?
[11:43] <bazhang> !info xchat-indicator
[11:43] <bazhang> Matan, ^
[11:43] <nielso> hey guys, ive been troubleshooting for forever: i cant get my logitech laser mouse to work at a normal sensitivity - its way too fast. any suggestions?
[11:44] <nielso> ive tried the systems preferences of course, its on min value
[11:44] <Maxwell> hello every1
[11:45] <Matan> bazhang: THX so much :)
[11:46] <shaneloots> hey everyone ok after playing around with some settings while trying to install i finally get a grey bar ontop of my screen with two arrows on the right of it but it doesnt want to bring up anything else how can i continur with my installation?
[11:47] <TJ-> mlkushan: You can find the SYSCALL numbers in /usr/include/asm/unistd{_64}.h
[11:47] <Maxwell> what are you trying to install shaneloots?
[11:47] <shaneloots> TJ-: im back and no luck i difnt get a terminal
[11:48] <TJ-> shaneloots: Grrrr
[11:48] <TJ-> shaneloots: It seems the video device in that PC doesn't like to play nice. What video adapter is it?
[11:49] <shaneloots> but after playing around with some settings i managed to get a grey bar ontop of my screen with two arrows facing up and down
[11:50] <shaneloots>  TJ-: its a ati saphire 3870 special edition
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> perhsps the alternative cd installer would be worth trying
[11:53] <shaneloots> i am installing from a cd?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> !alt
[11:54] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I agree; forums indicate that the HD3870 is supposed to work OK but might have video-playback acceleration issues, but nothing like shaneloots is describing
[11:55] <bonhoeffer> but i had no mouse
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[11:56] <shaneloots> i will download the alternative cd and see how it goes. but would i not get issues anyway once it is installed?
[11:57] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[11:57] <Golfgeo> Got a question
[11:57] <islandmonkey> !ask | Golfgeo
[11:57] <Golfgeo> How can I change the boot screen for xubuntu?
[11:58] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: Know that one
[11:58] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: and nice though, and state I am going to ask ;) hihi
[11:58] <Golfgeo> *I'm
[11:58] <Maxwell> I´m having a big problem right now: yesterday I used gparted to expand my linux partition. for doing that it had to copy my partition to the front on my hard drive. At the point about a half was copied my computer turned suddenly off without error message. Same as trying to do a diskcheck after crashing and also crashed. Ubuntu can´t boot right now of course but it only copied my data which means it still is somewhere on my harddriv
[11:59] <Maxwell>  Is there any option to rescue that data?
[11:59] <Golfgeo> Maxwell, low level tool can be a help, but only if you know where the start and end of the data is... exactly I mean...
[12:00] <islandmonkey> Golfgeo: Can't remember where I got it from, but you can use a tool called Plymouth Manager which allows you to easily change the splash screen of Plymouth from themes from somewhere like http://gnome-look.org
[12:00] <shaneloots> TJ-: will i not just get the same issues once its installed?
[12:00] <dsnyders> Maxwell, you can try using a utility called testdisk.
[12:00] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: will take a look at it
[12:00] <Golfgeo> thanks mate
[12:00] <Maxwell> Is it like a live-cd?
[12:01] <TJ-> shaneloots: Often, no. Sometimes its to do with the limited options the LiveCD has
[12:01] <alphada> Someone can help me to resolve a grub issue? I m not able to start the windows 7 . Please find the summary here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142767/
[12:02] <Golfgeo> Maxwell: to be honest, best bet is to start over with the disk, install a fresh copy of everything and safe on a ton of mental pain and shrinks...
[12:02] <dsnyders> Maxwell, No.  It is something that may be on a live-cd, though.  Testdisk scans a hard drive and attempts to rebuild partitions.
[12:03] <Maxwell> Found it. Semms like its also included in gparted but I dont want to use it though it crashed already a few times
[12:03] <Maxwell> That would be the best to copy my data on an external harddrive
[12:03] <shaneloots> TJ-: ok great ill download it and try. thanks for your help
[12:04] <dsnyders> Maxwell, that may not be it.  Testdisk is a command line, text only application.
[12:04] <islandmonkey> Golfgeo: Found it myself (if you haven't already): http://sourceforge.net/projects/plymouthmanager/
[12:04] <Maxwell> I found this site http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd
[12:04] <nielso> hey guys, im trying to reduce my mouse sensitivity to a much slower speed. the system preferences are already at minimum value. anyone any suggestion how to solve that problem?
[12:05] <Maxwell> looks like i have to learn how to use it
[12:06] <ubuntu> hi
[12:06] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: found it, but seems that xfce should have a settings manager to do this somewhere...
[12:07] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: btw, the goal was to get a non interactive bootup screen (no progress indicator that halts 10 times) like in lxde
[12:08] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: installing a little netbook with xubuntu, so... underpowered and crappy... and I hate being scared it isn't booting...
[12:08] <Golfgeo> but... will take a closer look at it :) Thanks mate :)
[12:09] <islandmonkey> Golfgeo: I don't know if it is in the repos, but there is one called splashy
[12:09] <islandmonkey> !info | splashy
[12:10] <islandmonkey> !package | splashy
[12:10] <Golfgeo> islandmonkey: sound like a winner reading the name :D
[12:10] <Golfgeo> will check it out :) Thanks mate :)
[12:14] <ahmet_fethar> Hi!
[12:14] <nielso> noone can help me with my mouse sensitivity?
[12:16] <ahmet_fethar> All applications from Software Center are free to use also for commercial use? ı can use Ubuntu and all applications (eclipse...) as free and develop a program and sell it with money?
[12:16] <extropy> sorry nielso, it just sounds like your mouse has a really high dpi rate
[12:16] <extropy> oh, he left, lol
[12:16] <extropy> is his problem pretty common?
[12:18] <The_Cog> ahmet_fethar: Yes you can.
[12:19] <Meikel> Hey guys ! Somebody can help me with an Start-Skipt ? It's written but one thing don't work
[12:20] <jgcampbell300> can i ask questions about ubuntu cloud here ?
[12:20] <ahmet_fethar> The_Cog: thank you! :)
[12:21] <The_Cog> ahmet_fethar: You cannot re-package and sell the software from the repositories itself, but you can create what you like using that software (books, pictures, your own software) and the product you create is yours.
[12:21] <greenit> jgcampbell300, just ask your question, if any1 knows the answer, he/she will answer and if this is not the right place you will be redirected to the right channel ;-)
[12:21] <ahmet_fethar> The_Cog: hmm ı understand.
[12:22] <greenit> !ubottu ubuntu cloud
[12:22] <greenit> !ubottu cloud
[12:22] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: make sure you understand the licensing terms of each program you'd like to develop on
[12:22] <glebihan> The_Cog, you can sell software from the repositories, as long as the source are freely available
[12:22] <greenit> !ubuntu cloud
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:23] <greenit> !cloud
[12:23] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: but The_cog writes that every app is free to use.
[12:23] <jgcampbell300> if i build a cloud with say 10 servers ... and I have one image that runs say some kind of server software that eats up alot of resources ... will it start using resources from all computers to run the one image ?
[12:24] <OerHeks> Meikel, did you set the script as executable ? chmod + x /path/to/script
[12:24] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: every app is free to use, but there are licensing terms on each program individually that concern exactly the kinds of questions you have about them (but that's probably off-topic here anyway)
[12:25] <The_Cog> glebihan: Yes. If you want to sell sw from the repos, then you can, with restrictions. See the licence the software comes with: GPL, LGPL etc.
[12:25] <greenit> !cloud | jgcampbell300
[12:25] <glebihan> The_Cog, I know those licenses very well
[12:25] <greenit> jgcampbell300, i think the beginners guide at the end of the site will help you
[12:26] <jgcampbell300> greenit, thanks
[12:26] <The_Cog> ahmet_fethar was asking, and seems less familiar with them.
[12:26] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: for example when ı want to install an application from synaptic, it isnatlls also other houndred depended pacgas to work propely. So ı need also to read all licences of them too. We will use ubuntu and other softwares from software center on our departmant. so we need to read million packages licence?
[12:26] <Crnkoj> hi guys, i was wondering if one can install ubuntu 12.04 on a macbook air 2008 ? i only can find 8.04 ubuntu for that version of the air. thanks
[12:27] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: you need to understand the licensing terms of any program you plan to develop on and redistribute, yes
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> !mac
[12:28] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: I would suggest reading up on open source licenses
[12:28] <jrib> Crnkoj: what version are you talking about?
[12:28] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: we will use firefox to research on internet. we need to read it? it comes with ubuntu's isnatllation.
[12:28] <Crnkoj> jrib this is te one im looking at http://www.ebay.de/itm/MacBook-Air-13-1-6-Core2Duo-2-GB-120-GB-SSD-A1304-MB543D-A-viel-Zubehor-/120964478785?pt=Apple_Systeme&hash=item1c2a0b7741
[12:28] <Crnkoj> jrib so it woudl depend if i bid on it or not depending ont he possibility to install latest ubuntu on it
[12:29] <jrib> Crnkoj: what version of ubuntu are you talking about when you say you found an 8.04 for it
[12:29] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: you're misunderstanding me
[12:29] <Crnkoj> jrib oh i was just googling around about ubuntu n macbook air and i only found 8.04
[12:30] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: i am talking for each app which are already listed on ubuntu's software center (firefox, eclipse, openjdk...)
[12:30] <Crnkoj> jrib well i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir where they suggest 8.04... and thats sort of too old for me...
[12:30] <jrib> Crnkoj: macbooks are intel macs you should be able to use the amd64 and i386 versions of ubuntu.  Thus why I am confused that you found a version of 8.04 for it
[12:30] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: if i will install extra from outside (from a deb package) i will ready the licence ofcorse.
[12:30] <yeats> ahmet_fethar: if you're *using* a program, these issues don't apply.  they only apply if you're planning to develop on them and re-sell them
[12:30] <Crnkoj> jrib yes im confused about it myself as well, thats why i was asking around here
[12:31] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: oh alright than.
[12:31] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: :)
[12:31] <Crnkoj> jrib i mean i know i can put gentoo on it and it will work fine, but for certain programs i woudl need ubuntu
[12:31] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: so i will develope a new application, i will not re-sell repackage anything.
[12:31] <ahmet_fethar> yeats: thank you :)
[12:31] <_skpl> ensions.gnome.
[12:31] <Crnkoj> jrib so now im wondering if i can isntall teh latest ubuntu on a macbook air 2008 (core 2 duo)
[12:31] <jrib> Crnkoj: yes
[12:31] <Crnkoj> jrib ah ok thanks
[12:32] <Crnkoj> jrib those ubuntu pages are so confusing lol =/
[12:32] <jrib> Crnkoj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2 talsk about 12.04 for example
[12:32] <Crnkoj> jrib ye but thats macbook air 4,2
[12:32] <Crnkoj> the latest version
[12:33] <tommy34> im having trouble running an executable file, i double click it and it doesnt do anything
[12:33] <jrib> Crnkoj: there isn't a 12.04 page for 4,1 because no one bothered to create one, but it should work
[12:33] <Crnkoj> jrib ah ok thanks
[12:36] <The_Cog> ahmet_fethar: If you are just using Linux to create your own work, you don't have to worry about the Linux licenses. Create and sell as much as you want. The restrictions are on redistributing Linux, in the same way as you can't sell copies of Windows yourself.
[12:37] <Guest53563> account add jabber souravaj@chat.facebook.com buba55
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[12:38] <Guest53563> account on
[12:39] <nils_> Guest53563: better change your facebook password.
[12:40] <lars_> who can help me with an error??
[12:40] <qualia> how can I write something that would save an audiostream from a site to a file on my desktop?
[12:41] <OerHeks> !rootirc | Guest53563
[12:42] <jrib>  lars_ you're going to have to be a bit more specific
[12:42] <jrib> qualia: see the various -dump* options to mplayer for example
[12:42] <lars_> who can help me with an error with my port it say java error then maybe the port is already running
[12:42] <jrib> qualia: see the various -dump* options to mplayer for example
[12:42] <jrib>  lars_ you're going to have to be a bit more specific
[12:42] <lars_> more?
[12:42] <jrib> lars_: yes.
[12:42] <HelpMeee> Hi there. I was just wondering. I am new to Ubuntu. I installed League of Legends via PlayOnLinux, I got the audio to work in the client itself, but the audio doesnt work ingame. Anybody maybe have any tips?
[12:43] <tommy34> anyone? having trouble opening an executable file, it doesnt do anything...
[12:43] <jrib> HelpMeee: try with pasuspender to see if it makes a difference (there may be a better way)
[12:43] <lars_> look private chat
[12:43] <jgcampbell300> so still reading here ... gona ask again for grins .. can i build a cloud and install say a web server on it, will that web server use up the all the resources of say 10 computers if its needed ?
[12:43] <jrib> tommy34: no.  Be more specific.
[12:43] <jrib> lars_: no, please use a pastebin and this channel
[12:43] <HelpMeee> ok, Im a total noob. what is pasuspender? do I need to download it with apt-get or something?
[12:43] <tommy34> jrib, http://www.twindrills.com/uploads/game_updates/zombie_grinder/zombiegrinder_stub_linux.tar.gz
[12:44] <jrib> !paste | lars_
[12:44] <jrib> HelpMeee: you already have it
[12:44] <tommy34> jrib, download that game, unzipped, clicked the executable, nothing happens
[12:44] <jrib> tommy34: did you read the documentation for it?
[12:44] <akira_> hey
[12:44] <akira_> sup guy
[12:44] <tommy34> jrib, there is none, no readme, nothin
[12:44] <HelpMeee> ok so how do I run it? just type pasuspender in terminal or something?
[12:44] <lars_> there is an error at pastebin
[12:45] <jrib> lars_: you must paste the link to it here
[12:45] <lars_> yes but it said notaice a administrator
[12:45] <jrib> tommy34: check site where you got it?  Ask the author
[12:45] <jrib> lars_: use paste.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <lars_> not anymore
[12:45] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142919/
[12:45] <OerHeks> lars_, it is working fine here, without sudo
[12:45] <tommy34> jrib, there is no documentation, and i doubt its worth the hassle wait to write him an email
[12:46] <jrib> tommy34: then you're out of luck
[12:46] <lars_> what working fine withput sudo?
[12:46] <jrib> lars_: are you sure there isn't already another server on that port?
[12:46] <lars_> yes i am sure
[12:46] <tommy34> jrib, uhh.. that is why im asking here, was hoping someone knowledgeable could help as it runs for other ppl
[12:47] <jrib> tommy34: it's an executable without source and do documentation, I wouldn't touch the thing with a 10 foot pole
[12:47] <jrib> s/do/no
[12:47] <lars_> what do i need to do?
[12:48] <tommy34> jrib, well talking to you was a waste of time ;p
[12:48] <jrib> tommy34: you're asking about something outside of the scope of this channel :x
[12:48] <nashirak> Hello, I ran a dist upgrade and got my system into a strange state.  The system is trying to delete old documentation (in /usr/share/doc/libnss3/) when it tries to do that I get "Permission Denied" as root.  Doing a ls on that directory takes a little while and I get permission denied on 'ls' with ????? in where the information on permissions should be.  Any ideas on what is going on?
[12:48] <lars_> can you help me?
[12:49] <fAz4> Launchpad.net is not accessible from iran, does anyone knows if canonical follows any US sanctions ?
[12:49] <fAz4> just wanted to make sure if it's due to sanctions or just a technical issue.
[12:49] <jrib> fAz4: try #launchpad maybe
[12:51] <fAz4> jrib: thanks
[12:51] <ert3go> Anyone here who uses LIbreOffice Calc on regular basis ?
[12:51] <jrib> ert3go: ask your actual question
[12:51] <jrib> lars_: on pastebin, the output of: netstat -a | grep 25565
[12:52] <TJ-> nashirak: That usually means the parent directory permissions need resetting, usually to 751
[12:52] <qualia> jrib, "see the various -dump* options to mplayer for example"
[12:52] <qualia> mplayer ?
[12:52] <ert3go> jrib, I've approx 2880 rows and I need each row to have time field in the intervals of 10 mins like 9 , 9.10, 9.20..9.50,10.00 for 24 hours
[12:52] <jrib> qualia: mplayer is a program
[12:53] <lars_> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142929/
[12:54] <greenit> everytime i boot ubuntu it shows me a message that it runs in low-graphics-mode, i can't click it and have to change to tty1 to do anything... when i reset my computer, it starts normally... can you help me get rid of this problem plz? graphics-card: nvidia gtx 570, driver: nvidia proprietary
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> ert3go  better ask in #opeoffice or #libreoffice
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> typo
[12:54] <jrib> lars_: on pastebin, the output of: lsof -i :25565
[12:55] <nashirak> TJ-: Did a chmod 751 on /usr/share/doc/libnss3 and go the same result ls: cannot access changelog.Debian.gz: Permission denied
[12:55] <junio> exit
[12:55] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142932/
[12:57] <jrib> tommy34: go here: http://www.desura.com/games/zombie-grinder/forum ; they have an irc channel too
[12:57] <lars_> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142932/
[12:57] <jrib> lars_: that indicates you *do* have something already listening on that port
[12:57] <ert3go> ty MonkeyDust
[12:57] <lars_> on a other pc
[12:57] <lars_> ??
[12:57] <jrib> lars_: on this one
[12:57] <tommy34> jrib, i dont want to run it through desura (which it works), i want to install stand-alone
[12:58] <lars_> no this pc is new and this is only thing i got
[12:58] <jrib> tommy34: I'm not telling you to run it through desura...
[12:58] <lars_> what can i do then?
[12:59] <jrib> lars_: either stop the other process if you don't want it or start this new one on a different port
[12:59] <lars_> what port can be change to 25565??
[12:59] <jrib> tommy34: that forum is linked from here: http://twindrills.com/#twindrills-home the irc chat is on the side
[13:00] <lars_> or how can i close the process
[13:00] <TJ-> nashirak: How about "sudo chmod -R 644 /usr/share/doc/libnss3/*"
[13:00] <bsandman> am i in the correct chat for help now ?
[13:00] <jrib> bsandman: yes
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> bsandman:  ubuntusupport. yes
[13:01] <cmaiz82> hi all
[13:01] <cmaiz82> can you help me, please?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[13:01] <jrib> lars_: well one way would be to kill the pid you see there in the lsof output.  But it depends on your program
[13:01] <lars_> what is the best 1 to kill??
[13:02] <lars_> or can i kill both process??
[13:02] <bsandman> cool would you be able to help me install my wireless adaptor as i have ndisswrapper andadded inf driver file but i get driver error ?
[13:02] <cmaiz82> i have any problem with the icons in unity bar, it show nothing
[13:02] <jrib> lars_: there's only one process
[13:02] <lars_> then how i kill it
[13:02] <jrib> lars_: kill PID_HERE
[13:03] <lars_> how i see what pid it is
[13:03] <jrib> lars_: read your lsof output
[13:03] <lars_> ty
[13:04] <bsandman> anyone ?
[13:04] <lars_> still the same problem
[13:04] <lars_> and no pids are opened
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | bsandman
[13:04] <jrib> lars_: after you killed it, did it still show up in lsof output?
[13:05] <lars_> nope thats gone
[13:05] <jrib> lars_: pastebin command and output when you 1) try to start the program and 2) run lsof afterwards  please
[13:05] <bsandman> ubottu i have looked everywhere and dont seem to be getting anywhere
[13:05] <lars_> wjat commdna do i need to put in?
[13:06] <cmaiz82> i don't know what's the problem but unity bar not show any icon...but i can use it. It's so weird
[13:06] <jrib> lars_: the ones you just used
[13:06] <lars_> so i open the program then?
[13:06] <jrib> lars_: as step 1, yes
[13:06] <lars_> an step 2?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> cmaiz82:  perhaps 'unity --reset-icons' to reset it
[13:06] <jrib> lars_: the lsof command you ran before
[13:07] <lars_> k
[13:07] <Crnkoj> guys i ahve one question does the latest 12.04 ubuntu use grub or gru2 ?
[13:07] <Crnkoj> grub2*
[13:07] <cmaiz82> Dr_Willis, not work :(
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Crnkoj:  grub2 is the default since like 10.04 i think
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Crnkoj  grub2
[13:08] <lars_> this is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142946/
[13:08] <Crnkoj> ok thanks
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> cmaiz82:  theres unity --reset or --replace also. or try making a new user, see if the issue also affects them. if so. its a system wide issue
[13:09] <jrib> lars_: well you now have a new process on that port... probably the one you just started
[13:09] <lars_> yes
[13:09] <jrib> lars_: so everything is ok now...?
[13:09] <lars_> no it said the same error
[13:09] <Crnkoj> guys furtheron im coming from gentoo and want to have a dualboot of gentoo and ubuntu on one pc, my question now is with which distro shoudl i setup grub2 (im already using grub2 in gentoo), since i more often change kernels in gentoo i guess i might rather go with gentoo?
[13:09] <jrib> lars_: what is that you want to do?  It seems like you're running a minecraft server on that port now.  What else do you want to do?
[13:10] <lars_> only minecraft server
[13:10] <jrib> lars_: yes, it's now running it seems
[13:10] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142950/
[13:10] <jrib> lars_: because it's already running
[13:10] <lars_> no if i start the minecraft it sayd this
[13:10] <jrib> lars_: you only start it one time
[13:10] <lars_> this is what i did start program then did lof
[13:11] <lars_> and then it said it probetly run that port
[13:11] <jrib> lars_: ok, but when you first ran it, it didn't complain.  So it started ok presumably
[13:11] <lars_> what
[13:12] <jrib> lars_: I have to make guesses because you do not show me what you do
[13:12] <lars_> if is close the mienecraft server it said no ports are on that pc and when i open it said its already in use
[13:12] <jrib> lars_: show on a pastebin
[13:12] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142950/
[13:12] <lars_> thats the port
[13:13] <jrib> lars_: no, you're showing me the port being in use, and then you trying to start another server (well I guess anyway because there is no command there) and then it fails because the port is already in use
[13:13] <cmaiz82> i tried the 2 commands but do not work Dr_Willis, i'll go to create a new account, but i think is a system problem :(
[13:13] <jrib> lars_: afaict you already have the server running and are trying to start another for some reason
[13:14] <lars_> look i closed the minecraft it said nothing when i open minecraft it listen to the port and the minecraft says its already in use
[13:14] <jrib> lars_: yes, show me what you just said in a pastebin
[13:14] <lars_> can you do remote pc thats easyer
[13:14] <jrib> lars_: no
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> lars_:  close the minecraft how?
[13:14] <pranavk> my work proxy allows me to connect to outside 443 and 80 ports only. I want to set up a system with chained proxies by running a squid proxy server on amazon aws on port 443 which would do all the stuff including IRC (on different port ) and other stuff for me so that i can surf smoothly. I can use proxychains but i want some localhost proxy to be internally set so that to all the softwares like pidgin i specify this localhost proxy a
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> yoy mean close down the server?
[13:15] <jrib> pranavk: why not just ssh on 443?
[13:16] <pranavk> jrib: well , then what about accessing IRC ( on different port) through pidgin
[13:16] <pranavk> jrib: i can ssh to that machine using corkscrew and do the stuff....
[13:16] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142959/
[13:16] <pranavk> jrib: but i want something more flexible so that my application don't even know that there is something blocking the port they want to access.
[13:17] <lars_> thats everything
[13:17] <cmaiz82> I did everything but still does not display icons Dr_Willis
[13:17] <jrib> lars_: what does "opening minecraft
[13:17] <jrib> lars_: what does "opening minecraft" mean
[13:18] <lars_> when i start the minecraft server
[13:18] <jrib> lars_: /how/?
[13:18] <jrib> pranavk: don't know the best way to do that then
[13:18] <pranavk> jrib: okay
[13:18] <lars_> using the command and the map this is the command
[13:18] <Fish-Face> every so often after leaving my computer for a while, the unity launcher's icons all disappear. It's happened now after coming back to it after ~2 days. Programs can be launched by observing what tooltips appear when you hover. Logging in again, or restarting unity does nothing - is there a way to fix it without restarting the entire computer?
[13:18] <Fish-Face> (This is Ubuntu 12.04)
[13:19] <lars_> lars@lars-OptiPlex-GX620:~/Desktop/server1$ java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
[13:19] <TJ-> pranavk: how about using openvpn TCP (rather than UDP - unless your firewall allows UDP to 443) and then just set the VPN tun as your default route?
[13:19] <jrib> lars_: what's the lsof -i :25565 output at this very moment?
[13:19] <cmaiz82> the problem start after a system upgrade, it replaced libgl1-mesa-dri and now i have the problem
[13:20] <lars_> then the port 25565 comes and sayd it listen
[13:20] <cmaiz82> i have ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[13:20] <cmaiz82> in repos
[13:20] <lars_> but the server cant find it and said the warning
[13:20] <pranavk> TJ-: no , proxy allows only 80 and 443 TCP .
[13:20] <jrib> lars_: I can't help you any more.  Good luck with your issue
[13:20] <lars_> why not
[13:21] <pranavk> TJ-: I was thinking to create some program sort of on the localhost that do it automatically.
[13:21] <lars_> can i use an other port instead of port 25565??
[13:21] <TJ-> pranavk: An openvpn TCP connection then?
[13:22] <TJ-> pranavk: see for instance http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[13:22] <lars_> can port 8080 be used??
[13:23] <librarat> Not to add to the mess of issues swarming around here.. but I've got a server that (it's a gen 2 poweredge 2900) that is running 12.04 server. The whole system periodically hangs for no real reason. active ssh connections are cut off (sometimes), samba shares fall on their face (until the hang stop).  TTY1 remains clean. The logs show zero indication of anything happening.. What I haven't been able to work out is if it's every sing
[13:23] <librarat> le service hanging, or the whole system (but I'm going to go with whole system here, minus tty1)  ideas?
[13:23] <pranavk> TJ-: hmmm. okay. Actually I had an account over AWS and since their micro instance is for free, i thought to take advantage of that .....
[13:23] <pranavk> but well will look into it now
[13:23] <lars_> i got the error at al the ports
[13:23] <TJ-> pranavk: I installed openvpn into an AWS micro
[13:24] <TJ-> librarat: how long do the 'hangs' typically last?
[13:25] <lars_> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142974/
[13:25] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142974/ thats the hole session from it
[13:26] <librarat> TJ-, they usually last anywhere from 10 seconds to 30 seconds or so. I should also add that I've gone so far as to wipe the sever and install fresh… same issues out of the box now.
[13:26] <skpl> does anyone know why ubuntu 2d might be running slow on my machein
[13:26] <w000w> hi
[13:27] <xorox90> hello
[13:27] <jrib> lars_: what java are you using?
[13:27] <w000w> me?
[13:27] <xorox90> open source java or sun java?
[13:27] <lars_> i dont know when i download it i only use 1 command
[13:27] <winnie666> i have some memory of being able to define /home/user/Pictures and change the specific location somewhere (might have been xfce specific), i can't seem to find it at the moment, anyone know what the heck i am talking about?
[13:28] <TJ-> librarat: That sounds like a lock-up during interrupts
[13:28] <jrib> lars_: apparently you need java 1.6 so make sure you have (and are using) that
[13:28] <lars_> can you give me a link where to get that 1?
[13:28] <jrib> !java | lars_
[13:29] <TJ-> lars: what does this report? "java -version"
[13:29] <lars_> thanks
[13:29] <jrib> lars_: like I said, I have no idea what version you are now using
[13:29] <lars_> whitch do i need?
[13:29] <TJ-> lars_: what does this report? "java -version"
[13:30] <lars_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142979/
[13:31] <librarat> TJ-, can you guide me what to do to get closer to solving this?
[13:31] <lars_> thats it
[13:31] <TJ-> I think that's your problem . version 1.5 and its the gij not open-jdk
[13:31] <Stava> How do I update time? I recently changed motherboard, and the clock is all wrong now!
[13:31] <lars_> what command do i need to typ in to get the 1.6?
[13:32] <TJ-> lars_: "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
[13:32] <dungeonmaster93> I have a question regarding ubuntu for anyone in the room
[13:33] <Stava> who could have guessed
[13:33] <dungeonmaster93> I'm trying to run Minecraft.exe but when I click on the file it attempts to open it with the archive program. ANy ideas?
[13:33] <DJones> dungeonmaster93: You need the minecraft.jar from the minecraft website
[13:34] <dungeonmaster93> I have that too, but it also tries to open with the archive program
[13:34] <DJones> dungeonmaster93: That should then allow you to open it with java
[13:35] <dungeonmaster93> I'm test driving this OS is java pre installed or do I have to install it?
[13:35] <DJones> I just right click on the minecraft.jar and open with openJDK java 6 runtime or sun java 6 runtime
[13:35] <Asad2005> I am getting a system freez (not responding) from time to time. Last time was right after i issued clamscan what log to look in
[13:35] <lars_> thank you all verry verry much it work now
[13:35] <DJones> !java | dungeonmaster93 You'll probably need to install the openJDK java 6,
[13:37] <dungeonmaster93> thanks Djones
[13:38] <dungeonmaster93> and thanks to ubottu
[13:39] <[Toto]> hello how can i fix this problem Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory  i think comes from /etc/passwd when i try cu make su username
[13:40] <Guest65619> hi
[13:40] <TUSA> h
[13:40] <TUSA> i
[13:40] <[Toto]> hi
[13:40] <TUSA> ;)
[13:40] <TUSA> i'm with tusa
[13:40] <compdoc> No such file or directory <- means doesnt exist
[13:41] <TUSA> ..
[13:41] <TUSA> not.
[13:41] <[Toto]> compdoc : i know but i dont delete it
[13:41] <TUSA> it means not exist on that computer
[13:41] <TUSA> can exist
[13:41] <TUSA> lol
[13:41] <compdoc> whats the command?
[13:41] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~# bash
[13:41] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~#
[13:41] <[Toto]>   ./usr/bin/lesspipe: 28: Cannot fork
[13:41] <[Toto]> i try to use su ircu
[13:42] <Martindo> Hello
[13:42] <[Toto]> i can`t access any user just root
[13:42] <Martindo> I have a question.
[13:42] <ix_> [Toto]: what do you mean?
[13:43] <[Toto]> ix_ : i want to su user
[13:43] <[Toto]> and i cant
[13:43] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~# su ircu
[13:43] <[Toto]> Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory
[13:43] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~#
[13:43] <ix_> [Toto]: LOL
[13:43] <ix_> [Toto]: that's not how it works
[13:43] <[Toto]> these last days i touch /etc/passwd  and add some users with /bin/false
[13:44] <[Toto]> but i dont think the error is from ther
[13:44] <[Toto]> there*
[13:44] <ix_> [Toto]: if it's root@, it means you are already rood
[13:44] <ix_> root
[13:44] <[Toto]> lol
[13:44] <compdoc> ircu is a user?
[13:44] <ix_> [Toto]: you have administrator rights
[13:44] <[Toto]> yes
[13:44] <zykotick9> ix_: "su username" (other then root) is a valid command...
[13:44] <[Toto]> i want to su users
[13:44] <[Toto]> no root
[13:45] <zykotick9> ix_: su = switch user
[13:45] <ix_> LOL, ok
[13:45] <ix_> I thought su was super user
[13:45] <[Toto]> how i can recover the passwd file ?
[13:45] <[Toto]> to original one
[13:45] <zykotick9> ix_: common misconception
[13:46] <[Toto]> without reinstall machine
[13:46] <Martindo> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 using an USB. My laptop (Asus n76vm-v2g-t1073v) has an C: (OS) and a D: (Data) partition. It seems that the USB installer installed Ubuntu on the side of the D: partition. But it seems that I can boot ubuntu because I only can choose Windows 7. Im using an 64bit system.
[13:46] <hattrap> hi
[13:46] <Martindo> How can I solve the problem?
[13:46] <hattrap> I need help
[13:46] <hattrap> can any1 plz solve http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162761#post12162761
[13:46] <MarkusH> [Toto]: did you try "su USER -s /bin/sh"
[13:47] <[Toto]> MarkusH : nope
[13:47] <[Toto]> root@irczone:/bin# su ircu -s /bin/sh
[13:47] <[Toto]> $
[13:47] <MarkusH> [Toto]: works
[13:47] <hattrap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162761#post12162761
[13:47] <[Toto]> $ whoami
[13:47] <[Toto]> ircu
[13:47] <[Toto]> $
[13:47] <Martindo> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 using an USB. My laptop (Asus n76vm-v2g-t1073v) has an C: (OS) and a D: (Data) partition. It seems that the USB installer installed Ubuntu on the side of the D: partition. But it seems that I can boot ubuntu because I only can choose Windows 7. Im using an 64bit system.
[13:47] <[Toto]> yap
[13:47] <FloodBot1> [Toto]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <TJ-> [Toto]: If you set the user's shell to /bin/false then it can't execute a shell for the user
[13:47] <MarkusH> [Toto]: just to verfiy: su USER -s /bin/bash
[13:47] <[Toto]> TJ- :i know
[13:48] <[Toto]> TJ- : but i add user for mail service and i dont want to access shell accont
[13:48] <TJ-> [Toto]: so set a shell by modifying the user
[13:48] <bobweaver> Martindo, you have ran "sudo update-grub"  ?
[13:48] <MarkusH> [Toto]: do you get an error if explicitly trying to use bash as the user's shell
[13:49] <[Toto]> MarkusH : no just that Cannot execute /bin/bash
[13:49] <Martindo> bobweaver do i need to do that using the tryout thing on the usb?
[13:49] <Martindo> otherwise I can do that
[13:49] <ix_> does anyone know how to circumvent a blocked port?
[13:49] <MarkusH> [Toto]: and you WANT to use `useradd` and `usermod` to change your /etc/passwd
[13:49] <MarkusH> ix_: SSH tunnel?
[13:50] <MarkusH> [Toto]: ls -l /bin/bash  ?
[13:50] <bobweaver> Martindo,  sorry I get mixed up I thought that you could not boot windows
[13:50] <ix_> MarkusH: my port 6667 is blocked by the isp
[13:50] <[Toto]> $ ls -l /bin/bash
[13:50] <[Toto]> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 822420 Mar 31  2011 /bin/bash
[13:50] <[Toto]> $
[13:50] <TJ-> [Toto]: How about "su -s /bin/bash -l ircu"
[13:50] <bobweaver> !pastebin | [Toto]
[13:50] <MarkusH> ix_: use 7070 with SSL ;)
[13:51] <Martindo> bobweaver - Nope Windows is bootable, but ubuntu is not bootable because I cant select it in de bootloader.
[13:51] <MarkusH> [Toto]: strange
[13:51] <[Toto]> http://pastie.org/4460747
[13:51] <MarkusH> [Toto]: su to the user and type bash manually
[13:51] <ix_> MarkusH: thank you, I'll try it but I think it will be locked too, these people are crazy
[13:51] <[Toto]> ok
[13:51] <[Toto]> $ bash
[13:51] <[Toto]> ircu@irczone:/bin$
[13:51] <bobweaver> Martindo,  if you boot live cd can you see the Ubuntu ? if so re-install grub there. I will find link
[13:51] <MarkusH> ix_: may I ask for the ISP?
[13:51] <[Toto]> works
[13:51] <WeThePeople> is it better to resize a partition in the beginning or the end of it?
[13:52] <ix_> MarkusH: it's an obscure one from my country
[13:52] <WeThePeople> using gparted
[13:52] <MarkusH> [Toto]: ok, that's odd
[13:52] <Martindo> bobweaver, I use a USB, NO CD. Is that the same?
[13:52] <TJ-> [Toto]: read "man su" you'll not trip up then
[13:52] <cmaiz82> please someone help me? I tried to install the version of nvidia current 304.32 and gives me a dependency problem with xorg-video-abi-12
[13:52] <bobweaver> Martindo,  Yes it will work the same way as long as you can boot line
[13:52] <bobweaver> live *
[13:53] <Martindo> Okay, thank you. I will try  "sudo update-grub"
[13:54] <MarkusH> ix_: do you have a (virtual) server? You can run weechat or irssi from there
[13:55] <ix_> MarkusH: I don't have a virtual server
[13:55] <pooltable> how do i find out how many wii games will fix on a 40 gb hard drive? and how do i set it up so 40 gb is for wbfs and the other 40 is for other use
[13:55] <bobweaver> Martindo that is not what I mean I  mean this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164
[13:55] <ix_> MarkusH: anyway, it's no big deal, I just wanted bitlbee, but I can deal with other messenger clients
[13:55] <bobweaver> you have to re-install grub to the correct boot partition
[13:56] <minimec> cmaiz82: Seems like you try to install the nvidia-current from the quantal repos. If you are on 12.10 alpha3 then it would be a bug. If you try to use the quantal driver in precise, it will probably not work. Some info: http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/quantal/xorg-video-abi-12
[13:56] <cmaiz82> pooltable, it depends of the game...
[13:56] <MarkusH> [Toto]: sorry, I have no clue why it does not work with -s
[13:56] <pooltable> cmaiz82 i got that say about hoe many?
[13:57] <cmaiz82> minimec, im in precise, but the current version of nvidia driver not work on my laptop
[13:57] <pooltable> how
[13:57] <MarkusH> [Toto]: but you can try "sudo -u USER -s /bin/bash"
[13:57] <[Toto]> what about his http://pastie.org/4460770
[13:57] <bobweaver> [Toto],  what are you trying to do ?
[13:57] <[Toto]> this*
[13:57] <ix_> [Toto]: did you try making a new user?
[13:58] <islandmonkey> cmaiz82: Try the beta driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-302.17-driver.html
[13:58] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~# adduser test
[13:58] <[Toto]> Out of memory!
[13:58] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~#
[13:58] <cmaiz82> there are games that involved 500Mb 4Gb and others concerned, for it depends pooltable ...
[13:58] <MarkusH> [Toto]: What the hell are you doing??
[13:58] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  all Beta drivers you can find in ppa's and no need to install via nvidia site
[13:59] <minimec> cmaiz82: But using the quantal driver obviously doesn't install. I don't think it is a good idea to mix xorg-drivers of different ubuntu versions. Check some xorg-edgers ppa. See if you find some newer nvidia-current driver for your GPU.
[13:59] <hattrap> hey! can anyone help me out?
[13:59] <hattrap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162761#post12162761
[13:59] <hattrap> no answers yet
[13:59] <cmaiz82> islandmonkey, this driver is the one I have installed but not working
[13:59] <bobweaver> minimec,  +1 for x-orgers
[13:59] <[Toto]> MarkusH : root@irczone:~# sudo -u ircu -s /bin/bash
[13:59] <[Toto]> bash: /root/.bashrc: Permission denied
[13:59] <[Toto]> ircu@irczone:~$
[13:59] <pooltable> cmaiz82 ok how do i set it up for 40 gb is wii and 40 is noral use?
[13:59] <cmaiz82> minimec, this version is from xorg-edgers ppa ...
[13:59] <bobweaver> sudo -i      then enter password     then run command
[14:00] <MarkusH> bobweaver: the user has /bin/false as default shell
[14:00] <MarkusH> that won't work
[14:00] <bobweaver> ouch MarkusH
[14:00] <cmaiz82> but I can not add as a repository because it breaks my system
[14:00] <cmaiz82> i tried it before
[14:00] <MarkusH> bobweaver: well, not my system, but [Toto]'s
[14:01] <minimec> cmaiz82: So you probably too the wrong version, or you only tried to install the package, whitout adding the xorg-edgers ppa. Or it could be a bug in the xorg-edgers ppa.
[14:01] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  you have also tried the fresh-crack ppa ?
[14:01] <ix_> is adduser the same as useradd?
[14:01] <bobweaver> ix_,  no
[14:01] <cmaiz82> bobweaver, no i not tried this ppa
[14:01] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  which one ?
[14:01] <minimec> cmaiz82: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[14:01] <bobweaver> that one ^^
[14:01] <bobweaver> ?
[14:01] <cmaiz82> yes, sorry
[14:02] <cmaiz82> can i use it?  bobweaver
[14:02] <[Toto]> -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
[14:02] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  can we see a        apt-cache policy  nvidia
[14:02] <Matan> !info hidd
[14:02] <[Toto]> wtf
[14:02] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  plz use pastebin
[14:02] <[Toto]> is use all memory
[14:02] <[Toto]> reboot ?
[14:03] <bobweaver> [Toto],  run free -m
[14:03] <cmaiz82> I had added and nvidia 304.32 driver worked but other problems occurring with the bar unity minimec
[14:03] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~# ps aux
[14:03] <[Toto]> -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
[14:03] <[Toto]> root@irczone:~
[14:03] <Matan> !info hidp
[14:03] <[Toto]> i do
[14:03] <[Toto]> free
[14:03] <[Toto]> 0
[14:03] <bobweaver> [Toto],  then install htop and see if it is maxed out
[14:03] <FloodBot1> [Toto]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:04] <cmaiz82> how can i do this bobweaver ? sorry for the ignorance
[14:04] <[Toto]> no free memory :P
[14:04] <MarkusH> [Toto]: reboot
[14:04] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  do you have gui ?
[14:04] <Thunderchild> hi there. I was wondering whether you can help me understand the following: when installing a new system, almost no package is marked as automatically installed in aptitude. So when I start removing single applications, won't that leave me with a lot of cruft?
[14:04] <MarkusH> [Toto]: install htop and screen and come back
[14:04] <[Toto]> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[14:04] <[Toto]> :P
[14:05] <bobweaver> Thunderchild,  look at the --purge option of aptitude
[14:05] <cmaiz82> I mean like how to show policy nvidia
[14:05] <Thunderchild> bobweaver: but how will aptitude know what to purge if all packages are marked as manually installed?
[14:05] <puzzled> Is this a virus or bug"1 update has been selected. 85 kb will be downloaded."
[14:05] <Thunderchild> (I'm not looking for a solution actually, I just would like to know the reasoning behind it)
[14:06] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  install pastebinit and run
[14:06] <Guest56390> I go to update and it is still the ONLY thing in the list no matter how many times I update or try to...    Is this a virus or bug"1 update has been selected. 85 kb will be downloaded."
[14:06] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  can we see a        apt-cache policy  nvidia-current | pastebinit
[14:06] <Joelito> is there a ubuntu CD with more non-free firmware?
[14:06] <zykotick9> Thunderchild: fyi, if you are using 12.04 - you shouldn't be using aptitude at all...
[14:06] <Thunderchild> I'm not.
[14:07] <bobweaver> Thunderchild,  you need to look at the debian/control file this is how all package managers read dependecys and what not
[14:07] <Thunderchild> I'm not using Ubuntu as main system at all. ;-) I was just wondering why this major problem has been there for so long
[14:07] <hattrap> anyone out there who can really help???
[14:07] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143036/ bobweaver
[14:08] <hattrap> ??
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Joelito:  there may be some unofficial vairants. mint i think may come with moar. but lots of other stuff as well. so its not supported here
[14:08] <teste> hi everybody
[14:08] <hattrap> hi teste
[14:08] <hattrap> how are you?
[14:08] <teste> im from brazil and you?
[14:08] <Crackeraki> hi all
[14:08] <Thunderchild> I'm not :-p
[14:08] <hattrap> from India
[14:09] <teste> wow, very nice
[14:09] <hattrap> thanks
[14:09] <hattrap> so, whatz up today?
[14:09] <Joelito> Dr_Willis, thanks
[14:09] <xata> hi! i need file asm/uaccess.h, in which package can i find it? full kernel sources or glibc-devel?
[14:09] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,     thanks now can we see   lsmod | pastebinit   and also a lspci -nn | pastebinit
[14:09] <Guest56390> http://pastebin.com/RGceGxrJ Is this an update virus or bug???
[14:09] <Joelito> Dr_Willis, one more: any chance to avoid plymouth during installation?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> Joelito:   use minimal install i guess. or just disable it afterwards
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> i dont see why its worth the bother
[14:10] <Crackeraki> guys any1 have any idea why after ubuntu updates my pc stop recognize my monitor. It's name changed from SONY to unknown and dont have option in Display for 16:9
[14:10] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143041/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143043/ bobweaver
[14:11] <hattrap> hi Dr_Willis
[14:11] <bobweaver> thanks cmaiz82
[14:11] <hattrap> can you help me?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> there used to be an very unofficial ubuntu extras cd i recall ages ago.. guess the project died off.. not looked imnto it in ages Joelito
[14:11] <cmaiz82> thank you bobweaver
[14:11] <teste> my first time in this channel
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> hattrap:  ive not seen your issue. so no idea
[14:11] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  the driver is not loaded
[14:11] <hattrap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162761#post12162761
[14:11] <hattrap> here it is
[14:11] <hattrap> plz have a look..!!
[14:11] <anonymous> hi
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> summarize it in here..
[14:11] <anonymous> wassap
[14:12] <cmaiz82> bobweaver, is a hibryd laptop
[14:12] <Guest56390> I took a screenshot of the update window and it shows an 85kb software that needs to be installed.. It is the only thing that is there and I cannot download and install it.. Is this a bug
[14:12] <anonymous> i am hacker
[14:12] <teste> bye bye
[14:12] <Guest17344> anonymous
[14:12] <hattrap> hi cannot install a unix based driver
[14:12] <Guest56390> http://pastebin.com/RGceGxrJ
[14:12] <hattrap> what to do?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> hattrap:  unix is not linux..  driver for what?
[14:12] <hattrap> wireless internet
[14:12] <xata> so nobody knows?
[14:12] <bobweaver> sorry the *modual* not driver lol
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> hattrap: and whats the wireless chipset? and have you checked askubuntu.com yet?
[14:13] <root_> account add -auto jabber souravaj@chat.facebook.com buba55
[14:13] <Joelito> Dr_Willis, Does ubuntu server comes with plymouth?
[14:13] <root_> account add -auto jabber souravaj@chat.facebook.com buba55
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Joelito:  no idea. i never use the server edidion
[14:14] <hattrap> sorry, not checked askubuntu and no idea abt chipset
[14:14] <root_> account add -auto jabber souravaj@chat.facebook.com buba55
[14:14] <root_> account add  jabber souravaj@chat.facebook.com buba55
[14:14] <IdleOne> root_: stop pasting your password in here
[14:14] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  apt-cache policy nvidia-settings |  pastebinit
[14:14] <cmaiz82> when i try the command optirun glxgears does not work with nvidia-current driver 302.17 bobweaver
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | hattrap
[14:14] <DJones> root_: I suggest you change your password for your facebook account, you're posting the info in an IRC channel with 1500 users
[14:14] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143050/
[14:14] <hattrap> thanks ubottu
[14:14] <xorox90> are there any one who know short-cut key for viewing  desktop in ubuntu?
[14:15] <hattrap> let me check
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> xorox90:  press and hold the super key to see a list in unity of key shortcuts
[14:15] <Martindo> Hi
[14:15] <IdleOne> xata: File uaccess.h found in linux-headers-3.2.0-22, linux-headers-3.2.0-22-generic, linux-headers-3.2.0-22-lowlatency, linux-headers-3.2.0-22-virtual, open-vm-dkms
[14:16] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | pastebinit
[14:16] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis will you help me with my update problem if you can?
[14:17] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143053/ bobweaver
[14:17] <xorox90> Dr_Willis: Thx but i don't know what you mean `super-key` - window key? function key?  I'm currently using laptop...
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  give details to the channel and see
[14:17] <louiemat> Can anyone tell me how - the easiest way to put files on the hard drive (like drivers for scanner) where they give you the driver telling you that these drivers have to be on hard drive for the scanner to work
[14:17] <Guest56390> Dr. Willis I did but nobody is responding
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> xorox90: the windows key is technically the 'super' key
[14:17] <xata> IdleOne: thanks. but that's not <asm/uaccess.h>, the one from linux headers use it
[14:17] <Guest56390> http://pastebin.com/RGceGxrJ  UPDATE VIRUS????
[14:18] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  I see that you have 2 vga cards and that the intel is loaded
[14:18] <cmaiz82> yes bobweaver is an hibryd graphics on laptop
[14:18] <Guest56390> There is never anything to update but this 85 kb file that NEVER updates???  is it a bug virus???  http://pastebin.com/RGceGxrJ
[14:18] <bobweaver> you might want to black list this then have the nvidia start on boot cmaiz82
[14:19] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  the nvidia-current is not loaded it will not work till then
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  giving some details and a summery instead os some 'scary' message with lots of ???? would make people not ignore you as much.. select a better nick also
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  tryed a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:19] <cmaiz82> but should work with bumblebee, no? bobweaver
[14:19] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  try to      sudo modprobe nvidia-current
[14:20] <bobweaver> you need to kill x 1st thou
[14:20] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis  I did but the system put me as guest?    THANKS for the tip, I will try it now.
[14:20] <cmaiz82> nothings happen bobweaver
[14:20] <xata> IdleOne: but... i found it, you were right, thanks
[14:20] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  do a    lsmod    is nvidia there now ?
[14:20] <cmaiz82> yes
[14:21] <cmaiz82> nvidia              10888767  0
[14:21] <bobweaver> well that is good news then the driver is now loaded  cmaiz82
[14:21] <bobweaver> but I bet that you did not kill x
[14:21] <bobweaver> 1st before you loaded the driver
[14:22] <cmaiz82> how do this?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> it should do it when you boot up now cmaiz82
[14:23] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143065/
[14:23] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  press ctrl+alt+f1 then log in then        sudo services lightdm stop     then   sudo rmmod nvidia-current  then sudo modprobe nvidia-current   then     sudo services lightdm start
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> the module name is 'nvidia-current' ? i thought it was just 'nvidia'
[14:24] <bobweaver> good point Dr_Willis  you could be correct on that one
[14:24] <cmaiz82> I will take a picture of the code to do it, lol
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> package name is nvidia-current ;)
[14:25] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis Neg. that didnt work.  Do you think it is a virus or bug of some sort??  The exact wording is software updates are available for this computer.  1 update has been selected. 85 kb will be downloaded
[14:25] <Guest56390> then trying to install nothing happens
[14:25] <cmaiz82> yes nvidia-current
[14:25] <bobweaver> :)
[14:25] <cmaiz82> ok, i will try it bobweaver and Dr_Willis and tell you the results
[14:25] <bobweaver> thanks
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  ubuntu updates do not put things in the usere home dirs.. and it would not be using a file:// type path. so we need to know exactly what is giving you that message
[14:26] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis  I do not understand this and it has been doing that for months.. NOT the usual updates process
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  what program is giving that message
[14:27] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis the message is coming from the software update progra,
[14:27] <Guest56390> dr.willis Update manager
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> id say take a screen shot of it.. for us to look at
[14:27] <bobweaver> Guest56390,  I think that he is asking What is the Program
[14:27] <bobweaver> !screenshoot | Guest56390 `
[14:27] <bobweaver> !screenshoot | Guest56390
[14:28] <DJones> !screenshot
[14:28] <Guest56390> bobweaver I did a screeenshot on that pastebin thing
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  also use the cli 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin any errors
[14:28] <cmaiz82> I already did but it did not work bobweaver
[14:28] <Guest56390> Dr.WIllis there were no errors when doing the apt get
[14:28] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  is the modual loaded >?
[14:29] <cmaiz82> yes
[14:29] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  reboot and see if it is there right after boot
[14:29] <cmaiz82> ok!
[14:30] <Guest56390> Dr.willis but the problem still exists.  The 85 kb file is still the only thing that needs to be installed and it soesnt tell me what the pro is.  It is only saying it needs to be installed and I try but nothing installs and is still there doing another check
[14:30] <cmaiz82> ok, but still not work :(
[14:30] <xiaboyang_> 不知道中文好用不  我试试哈。。
[14:30] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  is it loaded can you see it with      lsmod   ?
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  the apt system will not be installing anything to your usere home dir.. so the error makes no sence
[14:31] <DJones> !cn | xiaboyang_
[14:31] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis even after doing another check, it is still in the update window
[14:31] <xiaboyang_> ！
[14:31] <cmaiz82> Module                  Size  Used by
[14:31] <cmaiz82> nvidia              10888767  0
[14:31] <cmaiz82> yes is loaded
[14:31] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  open nividia settings and playy around
[14:31] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis  have you seen the pastebin of my update window??
[14:32] <ReZa__Ata> Wlc   kodam
[14:32] <cmaiz82> you do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. please edit your X configuration file...
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  your pastebin shows us nothing... th file im age is not there
[14:32] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  well that told you now didn't it lol
[14:32] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis   correct, part of the problem.. A virus or bug maybe??
[14:32] <cmaiz82> bobweaver, not sure if I mentioned that I have installed bumblebee?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Guest56390:  your image you pasated is NOT viewable by us.. we have NO idea what your actual error is...
[14:33] <bobweaver> Oh gezz umm.. that is not supported is it ?
[14:34] <cmaiz82> adding xorg-edgers and installing the package nvidia-current 304.32 worked well, but unity bar not show any icon
[14:34] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  apt-cache policy bumblebee-nvidia | pastebinit
[14:35] <Guest56390> Dr.Willis   oh   sorry.. I dont know how then.  The update window only tells me about the 85 kb file that needs to be installed but it has NO discription of the file and will not install it Im lost sorry for bothering everyone
[14:35] <cmaiz82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143089/
[14:35] <pip__> has anyone had any success in running gnome shell off a base xubuntu install?  It's a long story....
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> figured out he had pasted the url to his image as  file://home/bob/image.png   and he leaves
[14:36] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  take a look at this   http://blog.musicvm.com/solved-you-do-not-appear-be-using-nvidia-x-driver-linux-ubuntu
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> pip__:  you should be able to install it..
[14:37] <cmaiz82> ok, i do
[14:37] <pip__> Yeah, I was guessing at that, just wanted some feedback before committing (sp?) to it
[14:37] <xorox90> may be rude question, but most people in here working or stduents..? I'm sophomre
[14:37] <pip__> I'm a big wussy
[14:37] <ReZa__Ata> Wlc  pip__
[14:37] <ReZa__Ata> !vote
[14:38] <ReZa__Ata> !op
[14:38] <DJones> ReZa__Ata: Any reason for that?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> pip__:  you could have a dozen de's installed if you wanted. but you can get a lot of extra apps that way. but they should all work
[14:38] <cmaiz82> do you know if i can uninstall unity? bobweaver and install other desktop
[14:38] <theadmin> cmaiz82: Sure.
[14:38] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  sure like unity2d ?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> cmaiz82:  just install another de if you want one
[14:39] <theadmin> cmaiz82: There's no reason to keep many desktops unless you want to use all of them.
[14:39] <cmaiz82> like gnome shell
[14:39] <cmaiz82> or other
[14:39] <dougl> can anyone using xchat tell me where to configure what channels to join automatically when connecting to a server?
[14:39] <SectorX8> Hi Everyone! I wonder how to be apart of a Open Source project such as ubuntu?
[14:39] <cmaiz82> unity not work fine for me at least
[14:39] <theadmin> cmaiz82: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell && sudo apt-get remove unity
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> dougl: under server settings i recall..
[14:39] <theadmin> SectorX8: All of Ubuntu's development takes place on Launchpad. So that's the first place to look.
[14:40] <cmaiz82> ok i'll try it theadmin
[14:40] <dougl> Dr_Willis, thank you - err I checked there and cant seem to find it
[14:40] <DJones> SectorX8: Best way to start is by using it, getting used to it and then helping to answer questions here, on the UBuntu forums or through askubuntu
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> !info unity
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> i figured unity was a meta package ;) guess not
[14:40] <DJones> !participate | SectorX8
[14:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Nay, the meta is "ubuntu-desktop"
[14:41] <bobweaver> nope it is NUX and Unity  but unity package is meta -package
[14:41] <SectorX8> Thank you. I'll have a look.
[14:41] <ReZa__Ata> Wlc  reis
[14:42] <cmaiz82> you know if in October unity will remain the default desktop?
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> cmaiz82: yes
[14:42] <Mikeulus> Hello all. Has anyone gotten Left 4 Dead 2 running properly in wine on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?
[14:42] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  Unity is going to stay as Ubuntu main thingy for a long time
[14:42] <cmaiz82> i think gnome-shell is installed yet but nothing change :S
[14:42] <romy420> hello, has anyone successfully and completely removed zeitgeist? apt wants to remove gnome and nautilus when i try to! :(
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> cmaiz82:  you selected it at the login screen?
[14:43] <theadmin> Mikeulus: VALVe is porting Left4Dead to Linux, as well as some other games. But, anyway, source games tend to work quite well with Wine. For more help, install your graphic drivers and head over to #winehq
[14:43] <cmaiz82> Unfortunately, I did not like unity
[14:43] <bobweaver> cmaiz82, you can do some great things with unity like look what I did with unity 2d http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrm117Ukr0
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> unity works well for me. and has some very neat features
[14:43] <pip__> Dr_Willis: okay, thanks.  I've ended up with an odd situation allowing me to run a more graphically intensive DE & I like Gnome shell
[14:44] <bobweaver> +200 Dr_Willis
[14:44] <cmaiz82> ah do it now Dr_Willis thanks
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> the askubuntu lens is very very handy in unity
[14:44] <Mikeulus> theadmin: thanks. I will do. Yes I saw that they were converting it over. At the moment I get steam and the game lobby loading.
[14:44] <ReZa__Ata> Jan
[14:44] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  100 scopes also and ayanta ppa is great for lenes and scopes
[14:44] <Rais> Tnx reza
[14:44] <Rais> Reza ata
[14:45] <cmaiz82> impressive, as you have done so personal bobweaver
[14:45] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  there is a list of all scopes and what not that I use in the comments of that video
[14:45] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrm117Ukr0
[14:45] <bobweaver> And also a couplr that I wrote in my ppa
[14:46] <cmaiz82> very pretty
[14:46] <cmaiz82> have you your own ppa?
[14:46] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,  a lot of us do
[14:46] <ReZa__Ata> Hi
[14:46] <ReZa__Ata> Koniya
[14:47] <cmaiz82> oh, in the future I want to do that
[14:47] <bobweaver> cmaiz82,   i think i have 4 of them minus work ones
[14:47] <cmaiz82> when i learn more
[14:47] <SectorX8> OK I have read though the contribute page. But my field is not development, testing or such. I'm doing security. Such as pentesting, forensics, cloud security etc. I suppose that my competence could be requested in the community?
[14:48] <theadmin> SectorX8: Quite possible. You might want to join #ubuntu-devel and ask around there.
[14:48] <SectorX8> OK. I'll do. Thanks.
[14:48] <bobweaver> SectorX8,  Ubuntu is always looking for new cves if you find one
[14:50] <SectorX8> Yeah, I heard understood that. I'm leaving the channel now. Thanks for you fast and helpful respons. Have a nice day.
[14:50] <romy420> hello, has anyone successfully and completely removed zeitgeist? apt wants to remove gnome and nautilus when i try to! :(
[14:51] <xorox90> Can I change `right` alt key  only behave langues changing key? I'm using ubuntu 12.10...
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata wacks FloodBot2 with baseball bat for a home run
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata slaps FloodBot3 with a broken pipe
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata tickles a111 with a feather
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata pokes a111 with a stick
[14:51] <FloodBot1> ReZa__Ata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51]  * ReZa__Ata slaps aaas with a broken pipe
[14:52] <Abhijit> xorox90, no
[14:52] <a111> ReZa__Ata, ?
[14:52] <DJones> ReZa__Ata: Stop that
[14:52] <a111> faggot
[14:52] <carlos82> i have gnome-shell install yet
[14:52]  * ReZa__Ata tickles aarcane with a feather
[14:52]  * ReZa__Ata pokes Aaton with a stick
[14:52] <carlos82> and working!
[14:52]  * ReZa__Ata tickles aboudreault with a feather
[14:52] <bobweaver> a111,  wow there partner
[14:52] <theadmin> DJones: Thanks.
[14:53] <xorox90> Abhijit : what?? Is there any way to change really..?
[14:53] <dougl> what do you suppose I need to do to correct this problem with my printing config? http://imagebin.org/224201
[14:53] <bobweaver> Abhijit,  you can change any key combos you like under keyboard sortcuts in the gnome-control-pannel
[14:53] <carlos82> thanks for help me bobweaver , Dr_Willis , theadmin
[14:54] <carlos82> see you later!
[14:54] <bobweaver> cya have a good one !
[14:54] <Abhijit> bobbyaldol, but you can not assing 'ONLY' alt to something
[14:54] <Abhijit> xorox90,  you can not assing 'ONLY' alt to something
[14:54] <theadmin> Abhijit: Try remapping the right alt to left alt
[14:54] <bunjee> what's the procedure for installing a .gz file?
[14:54] <bobweaver> lol alt is notfor the hud and can not be used on its own
[14:54] <Abhijit> theadmin, xorox90 needs it
[14:54] <xorox90> Abhijit : #)$*#$@#(*SF... thx!
[14:55] <bobbyaldol> Abhijit: be more careful when you try to tab autocomplete a name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:55] <theadmin> xorox90: xmodmap -e 'keysym Alt_R = Alt_L' # That helps?
[14:55] <Abhijit> :-/
[14:56] <xorox90> theadmin: xmodmap:  commandline:1:  bad keysym target keysym 'Alt_R', no corresponding keycodes
[14:56] <xorox90> xmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.
[14:57] <theadmin> xorox90: Huh. That's... weird.
[14:57] <bobweaver> xorox90, you are using unity or unity 2d ?
[14:59] <xorox90> theadmin: I use ubuntu2d
[15:00] <theadmin> xorox90: What if you do xmodmap -e 'add Mod1 = Alt_L Alt_R' and then try that keysym thing again?
[15:00] <xorox90> theadmin: on xev  left alt = Alt_l but right alt = (keysym 0xff31, Hangule)
[15:01] <xorox90> theadmin: it executed well no error
[15:01] <theadmin> xorox90: Try using your right Alt now
[15:01] <JC-PTY> Hi all, how can i start vnc from ssh in ubuntu 12.04
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> JC-PTY: install and run a vncserver
[15:02] <JC-PTY> that is install
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> JC-PTY: like tightvnc
[15:02] <JC-PTY> but how do i run it
[15:02] <JC-PTY> from ssh
[15:02] <xorox90> theadmin: hmm but right alt stil act as alt, I just want to change key for right alt
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> JC-PTY: 'vncserver' would be the command
[15:02] <theadmin> xorox90: Uhm, what?
[15:03] <romy420> hello, has anyone successfully and completely removed zeitgeist? apt wants to remove gnome and nautilus when i try to!
[15:03] <xorox90> theadmin: hmm I live south korea and In my contury..(hangul key) right_alt key is change langues key
[15:03] <theadmin> xorox90: Oh, then... uh...
[15:04] <JC-PTY> mmm
[15:04] <bobweaver> xorox90, ok Unity 2d uses something called the strut manager to hold windows if you look at the Shell.qml file you will see thatthere is a lock down on alt now you can change this look up keynavigation qml
[15:04] <bobweaver> unity 2d >= 4.0
[15:04] <bobweaver> That is
[15:05] <bobweaver> stutmanager was added for the use of hud
[15:05] <bobweaver> and not to have it as standalone.
[15:09] <romy420> ok, thank you all for ignoring me, i guess ubuntu is not the right distro for people who want a lean system. live with the crap like zeitgeist or ... well switch the distro
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> if no one knows.. no one knows
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> you ant lite - go lubuntu
[15:11] <jrib> !patience| romy420
[15:11] <romy420> i think debian ... just a pitty that i spent days configuring and installing sw and so on
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> do whatever you want.. makes no differance to us.
[15:11] <jrib> romy420: this channel is for support, use whatever you want
[15:11] <bobweaver> lol have fun gettting help with debian . what is your question about zeit ?
[15:11] <romy420> i asked for support
[15:12] <jrib> romy420: you're not doing so now
[15:12] <netforce_> hi, all
[15:12] <romy420> ok bye
[15:12] <bobweaver> lol
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> unity uses zetgiest... what more to say
[15:12] <bobweaver> You can 100% disable it under your privacy settings
[15:12] <bobweaver> well not 100% but...
[15:13] <Kasplodey> Too late. He wanted an answer *immediately*. :D
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> 99.999995%
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> he wanted to remove it.. not disable ;)
[15:13] <bobweaver> that would be a great Idea !
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive had any issues iwth it.. other the the wife seeing my history.... ;)
[15:14] <bobweaver> I use it all the time like for the video lens and remote-video-scope
[15:15] <sambagirl> Dr Willis is there any plan to put a usable interface on the next ubuntu release so we have one that is friendly? cuase unity is more like disarray.
[15:15] <agentgasmask> I second that.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> sambagirl:  i find unity works very well for me and is very useable
[15:15] <bobweaver> !info testdrive | sambagirl,
[15:15]  * gitesh frustrated
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> wife and step kids also find it useable
[15:15] <gitesh> I have problem with my Internet connection
[15:16] <root_> ls
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> install whatever de you want..
[15:16] <sambagirl> that wasn't my question though Dr Willis
[15:16] <agentgasmask> gitesh: What is it? Or perhaps you are typing that now. :)
[15:16] <sambagirl> it's running ubuntu users away in droves
[15:16] <bobweaver> I also find Unity easy to alter but I thought that gnu/linux is about user choices
[15:16] <gitesh> How do I configure Internet ?
[15:16] <bobweaver> could be wrong thou
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> your question was 90% rant
[15:17] <crimsonmane> unity was built so that things would appear in the same spot every time you boot
[15:17] <gitesh> I made mistakes using pppoeconf, and now its taking more time to connect.
[15:17] <crimsonmane> it was made for consistency
[15:17] <gitesh> I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> install whatever de you want.. theres like 4 now to choose from
[15:17] <sambagirl> crinsommane so your saying i will have the same confusion each and everytime i reboot?
[15:17] <deadmund> You all have sooo much choice!  Go ahead and install a different desktop manager.  Or, edit the source of unity!  Nobody cares :)
[15:18] <agentgasmask> gitesh: Are you using dialup?
[15:18] <gitesh> I want default Internet Connection for my comp. provided by GUI(at right top of desk)
[15:18] <sambagirl> i've been using ubuntu since Hoary so it's not a rant it's a statement from experience and exposure dr willis.
[15:18] <bobweaver> flux ice unity{2,3d} lxde kde gnome  xfce , the list goes on and on
[15:19] <gitesh> I have to enter username & pass for connecting to web
[15:19] <Saiki> where can I find this file?: libepsng_p11.so
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> sambagirl:  its a rant. if you want a different desktop.. then install one
[15:19] <bobweaver> sambagirl,  what do ou think about gnome throwback then?
[15:19] <deadmund> Saiki: sudo find / -name libepsng_p11.so
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu works well for many people
[15:19] <royphelps> I have a question.  When I take a photo/ video, on my iphone, and the pictures are uploaded to Photo cloud in Ubuntu one.  However, when I try to put a photo on ebay, it flips it for some reason.  Also when I view my video on my system, it is upside down.  Any fixes?
[15:19] <agentgasmask> gitesh: Sorry, you are being to vague. Please layout exactly what is going on.
[15:20] <Saiki> deadmund: I don't think I have it alreadt
[15:20] <bobweaver> sambagirl,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[15:20] <glebihan> !find libepsng_p11.so | Saiki
[15:20] <deadmund> Saiki: sudo apt-file search libepsng_p11.so
[15:20] <Saiki> deadmund: supposed to be in /usr/lib/  but it's not there
[15:20] <sambagirl> just a sec bobweaver let me read
[15:20] <deadmund> Saiki: use that command to find the package it contains
[15:20] <deadmund> package that contains it*
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> of course that gnome-classic may vanish in the next few releases also..
[15:21] <dylan> royphelps: did you try using Gimp to flip the images?
[15:21] <Saiki> deadmund: -bash: line 9: apt-file: command not found
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-file
[15:21] <royphelps> @dylan, I use shotwell.  I will try gimp
[15:21] <deadmund> Saiki: You need to install the program apt-file   sudo apt-get install apt-file  :)
[15:22] <gitesh> agentgasmask, Internet configuration that I make with VPN connetion -> Configure VPN should work and nothing else.
[15:22] <dylan> royphelps: try to avoid the @name thing, if you use "name:" it appears as a different color on my screen
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> irc is not twitter ;)
[15:22] <dylan> also that
[15:23] <netforce_> I need from help, i trying to connect to vpn server under ubunutu, but with not success.From MocOs with securevpn client i connect ot this server withou problems.
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> @ on irc means channel OP also.. ;)
[15:23] <agentgasmask> gitesh: Sorry, I can't help with vpn.
[15:24] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: probably a forum user, I do that on forums alot
[15:24] <gitesh> agentgasmask, its not VPN exactly .  I explained the path to setting.s
[15:24] <sambagirl> yes bobweaver that is what i prefer. that is one reason why i have debian squeeze on some of the laptops now due to the disarray interface.  in my opinion, users are being cheated because they don't have the panels nor workspaces they had in all previous releases. top and bottom panels vanished! those are some of the most imporant beauties of linux to have ease of access and multi-functional enviornment "easily"..heck i
[15:24] <sambagirl> may go back to xenix..
[15:24] <agentgasmask> Guest92029: I wouldn't run irssi as root if I were you.
[15:25] <deadmund> sambagirl: If you don't have a support question then please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> gnome devs killed off gnome2 and the panels. ;)
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> not ubuntu
[15:25] <deadmund> sambagirl: Also, any user can install any desktop they want.
[15:25] <sambagirl> i understand Dr. Willis.
[15:25] <sambagirl> i dont blame the fabulous work being done with ubuntu.
[15:25] <bobweaver> I dont get the rant there is so many options do what you wish
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu and lubuntu are close to the old gnome2 where its eaially used
[15:26] <gitesh> agentgasmask , Can you please link me somewhere for learning Internet Configuration ? thanks for your support :)
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> wife likes unity, stepkids use lubuntu
[15:26] <bobweaver> and gnome-classic is almost 99,95% the same thing as gnome 2
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> gnome-classic may vanish in the next few releases however
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> or so ive heard
[15:27] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  yeah I have also heard that canonical fired there QT guy
[15:27] <agentgasmask> gitesh: perhaps this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[15:27] <extropy> yeah they're going for Wayland now right?
[15:27] <Saiki> qt guy?
[15:27] <extropy> because of it's OpenGL support?
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> things will get very interesting when waylang gets here
[15:27] <islandmonkey> extropy: Wayland is available for testing
[15:27] <extropy> or is it just leaner?
[15:28] <agentgasmask> bobweaver: what is the feuter of gnome-classic?
[15:28] <extropy> like what's the motivation I wonder
[15:28] <bobweaver> agentgasmask,  not sure but the code is open source and compiling things in qt-creator is easy
[15:28] <islandmonkey> extropy: X is terrible.
[15:28] <agentgasmask> bobweaver: true. :)
[15:28] <bobweaver> like I am on 12.10 with NUX 3 and unity 6.5   but I also have nux1 installed and Unty 4
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> extropy:  X is  a very old 'standard' and has a lot of limits.
[15:29] <bobweaver> and different formfactors also
[15:29] <bobweaver> But once again that is QT
[15:29] <root_> register
[15:30] <extropy> is Wayland an X replacement then? I guess I just assumed it was a Unity replacement
[15:30] <Saiki> deadmund: returned blank
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> extropy:  its a x replacement
[15:30] <islandmonkey> extropy: Yep.
[15:30] <deadmund> extropy: It is an x replacement.  NOT a unity replacement
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> !info wayland
[15:30] <extropy> and unity is a gnome replacement
[15:30] <extropy> trippy
[15:30] <bobweaver> extor,  no Nux is the graphic c++ lib
[15:30] <deadmund> Saiki: did you sudo apt-file update ?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> unity is a gnome shell...
[15:30] <islandmonkey> !info libwayland
[15:30] <Saiki> deadmund: yes
[15:30] <deadmund> Saiki: Perhaps you made a typo on the file name?
[15:30] <islandmonkey> Eh?
[15:31] <extropy> what was so inhibiting about X? seems pretty robust to me
[15:31] <deadmund> Saiki: try it with some other files that you know exist.  For example: apt-file search firefox
[15:31] <Saiki> deadmund: library = /usr/local/lib/libepsng_p11.so
[15:31] <Fuchs> extropy: not really, since unity has no applications, it's just a few compiz plugins. You still need file managers and such. But I guess this would be more suitable for the offtopic channel.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> extropy:  its like 20yr old standard
[15:31] <islandmonkey> !info libwayland0
[15:31] <bobweaver> meaning that you can tie the lib into just about anything to render 3d stuff
[15:31] <extropy> I vaguely remember some gripes about X
[15:31] <deadmund> Saiki: try it with firefox
[15:31] <bobweaver> that is why unity 2d still uses nux and unity-core
[15:31] <Saiki> deadmund: it's server edition
[15:31] <deadmund> Saiki: Anything that is in /usr/local was not placed there by the package manager. What do you have that is looking for a library in /usr/local?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> unity2d is to get phased out also
[15:31] <extropy> I'll take it to offtopic then, thanks
[15:32] <deadmund> Saiki: apt-file search apt-file
[15:32] <deadmund> Saiki: apt-file search python
[15:32] <Saiki> deadmund: server files for a game
[15:32] <deadmund> Saiki: IDK, think of something
[15:32] <extropy> in lieu of ... unity3d?
[15:32] <notdan> Hi! Does anybody know if I can install 64-bit ubuntu from 32-bit one?
[15:32] <extor> ughhh the dante client in ubuntu is broken. the package doesnt grab libc as a dependency
[15:32] <deadmund> Saiki: what?
[15:32] <notdan> Or, maybe I can install 32-bit ubuntu and then upgrade to 64-bit one?
[15:32] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  correct that is what I was talking about with the firering of the QT dev
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> notdan:  you mean make a bootable usb/iso?
[15:32] <Saiki> deadmund: searches libpcre.so  I got 5 returns
[15:32] <ThinkT510> notdan: no, you don't upgrade to 64bit
[15:33] <deadmund> Saiki: search for just the library's name.
[15:33] <ThinkT510> notdan: you install fresh
[15:33] <deadmund> Saiki: without the folder name in front of it
[15:33]  * Dr_Willis missread.
[15:33] <notdan> ThinkT510: ok, so I just have to download the 64bit cd then?
[15:33] <bobweaver> but of cource you get ride of QT you loss ubuntu phone and tv untill there is a way to run a different form factor using unity libs
[15:33] <bobweaver> sorry </rant>
[15:33] <ThinkT510> notdan: if you want 64bit yeah
[15:34] <Saiki> deadmund: apt-file search libepsng_p11  (returns blank)
[15:34] <deadmund> Saiki: then that library is not available in ubuntu
[15:34] <deadmund> Saiki: What program is asking for this library?
[15:35] <Saiki> deadmund: it's a java auth script
[15:35] <deadmund> Saiki: Ok?
[15:35] <Saiki> deadmund: I'm gonna check my other vm, see if i's there
[15:35] <deadmund> k
[15:36] <Guest47776> !list
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if ubotu keeps track of how many times each factoid gets triggered..
[15:37] <extor> Aug 12 19:37:11 (1344785831) danted[3537]: symbolfunction(): compiletime configuration error?  Failed to open "libc.so": /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so: invalid ELF header
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> extor: whats saying that scarry message..
[15:38] <Saiki> deadmund: upon further investigation.. it seems it looks for the file, but doesn't need it..
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !info danted
[15:39] <extor> Dr_Willis, I don't know
[15:39] <deadmund> Saiki: yay?
[15:39] <extor> dante-server is the package
[15:39]  * extor is going to install debian and see if he has better luck
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !info danted-server
[15:39] <Saiki> deadmund: yes, I don't have to wrack my brains to find it lol
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !info dante-server
[15:39] <extor> dante-server not danted-server
[15:39] <deadmund> :)
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> almost like its saying libc.so is currupted..
[15:40] <Saiki> deadmund: I do have one other issue, a push in the rightdirection would begreatly appriciated if you can. (I need ot load the other vm again first though lol)
[15:40] <mael> Hi, please give a tip what data base should I use for application program (not for cgi). It is necessary to accompany the program with this base. As I understood Mysql is for client/server architecture and its base does not allow to move it with program distributive
[15:41] <extor> yeah wierd ha
[15:43] <djzn> i'm wondering why ttf-mscorefonts come with the Font_Name_Italic.ttf and a symlink like fni.ttf
[15:44] <samtuke> Hi, I installed Ubuntu to an LVM volume and added it to my existing fedora boot menu. When I try and boot it however it says "ALERT! /dev/mapper/vg-home--desktop-distro2 does not exist. Dropping to shell!". I tried chrooting from livecd to ensure lvm2 is installed, but I'm not sure it worked. How can I get it to boot? Version of Ubuntu is Dream Studio.
[15:46] <librarat> Hey guys, I've got a weird issue with a Server install. Essentially, I'm seeing frequent lockups. They only happen on remote sessions (TTY1 is unaffected) but it's happening to all network services. When I ssh, sometimes I get disconnected and other times I don't. As a diagnostic measure, I set a ping up to google and let it run - I saw the lockup (ping stats stop refreshing) freeze for about 20 seconds, then a whole block of stats
[15:46] <librarat>  appears at once and the ping was still going just fine.  I was told that this might be an interrupt issue I'm seeing but I have no idea how to further diagnose this. This just started happening, out of the blue. I've completely reinstalled my server and even from a clean install (but with 11.10 and 12.04) I am still having these same issues. Does anyone have any ideas?
[15:46] <Saiki> deadmund: http://pastebin.com/yPh9kn38
[15:46] <deadmund> Saiki: ?  Something is wrong in the source.
[15:47] <bonhoeffer> i'm having trouble mounting a guid volume -- it mounts fine using the live cd, but on my 12.04 install, i can't recognize any of the files
[15:47] <Saiki> deadmund: source should be fine, that's a copy from somehting working elsewhere perfectly
[15:47] <deadmund> Saiki: Well if you are at all familiar with software you'll know that source can work perfectly in one situation and crash in another situation.
[15:47] <deadmund> Saiki: based on the INPUT
[15:47] <Saiki> deadmund: I think Im missing a package somewhere. or my java_home is wrong
[15:48] <deadmund> Saiki: perhaps
[15:48] <bonhoeffer> i get "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "New Volume"."
[15:48] <deadmund> I don't know
[15:48] <Saiki> deadmund: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386     <supposed to be java 7
[15:49] <deadmund> Saiki: I totally have no idea at this point anymore :)
[15:50] <YamatoPotter> Could someone help me?
[15:50] <Saiki> !help | YamatoPotter
[15:50] <Saiki> deadmund: does that look right though to you?
[15:50] <deadmund> Saiki: I don't know.
[15:51] <bonhoeffer> in disk manager the file system is ext3 and the partition is linux basic data partition
[15:51] <bonhoeffer> but it won't mount
[15:52] <YamatoPotter> My laptop with ubuntu 11.10 was used to hibernate and suspend normaly, but, when I updated it to 12.04, it hibernate and suspend, but no wake up, he turn on, but the system doesn't return
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer: how are you mounting it?
[15:52] <bonhoeffer> bonhoeffer, two ways -- mount command and using the disk utility
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> whats the exaxt mount command..
[15:53] <bonhoeffer> i have to remember, i thought i did mount -t ext3 /dev/sdd1
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> no mount point?
[15:54] <Dr_Willis>   sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /media/makeadirectory -t auto
[15:54] <kartlos> hey guys, if was wondering why ~/.xsession doesn't get run in 12.04?
[15:55] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, i'll try that thanks
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> kartlos: theres a lightdm entry that uses it when selected i recall
[15:55] <Saiki> deadmund: jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/pw?useUnicode=true&amp;characterEncoding=utf8  < this is how auth finds my users. maybe I'm missing a jdbc package?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> 'user defined' or somthing like that
[15:55] <kartlos> Dr_Willis: what can I do to get my .xsession to run?
[15:56] <deadmund> Saiki: mysql  ?  Do you have a mysql server running?
[15:56] <YamatoPotter> My laptop with ubuntu 11.10 was used to hibernate and suspend normally, but, when I updated it to 12.04, it hibernate and suspend, but no wake up, he turn on, but the system doesn't return ... what can be happen?
[15:56] <Saiki> deadmund: yes
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> kartlos:  use startx , or selec that session in lightdm
[15:56] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, i got it -- i guess i had to sudo mount
[15:56] <deadmund> Saiki: mmm IDK
[15:56] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to copy verbose so i can see progress
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  linux FUNdamentals
[15:56] <kartlos> Dr_Willis: thanks, i'll try that
[15:57] <Saiki> !repeat | YamatoPotter
[15:57] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, thanks for the pointer
[15:58] <Saiki> deadmund: well, I'm pretty sure that it's jdbc that's erroring.. : gauthd: 12 Aug 2012 10:41:07,347  INFO GAuthServer:? - MatrixPasswd:can not find user saikadmin  (gauthd uses jdbc)
[15:58] <deadmund> Saiki: I wish I could help but you know more about this than I do!
[15:58] <Saiki> deadmund: alwya worth trying I though lol
[15:58] <Saiki> thought*
[15:59] <deadmund> ok :)
[15:59] <triad> I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 Server LTS in a few moments. Hope everything will be OK
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> triad:  why wouldent it be ok...
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[16:00] <triad> Dr_Willis: Don't know. Anything come go from good to bad
[16:01] <triad> can*
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> 'think happy thoughts'
[16:02] <triad> yeah:)
[16:02]  * Dr_Willis watches triad 's city have a power failure
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:03] <DancesWithKows> Hi all...I have a laptop with a wireless usb adapter....when activate the laptop from sleep mode, the usb adapter stops working...anyone know how to reload the driver in the kernel/get it working without reboot
[16:04] <cristian__> hi guys
[16:04] <triad> It must be a command :)
[16:04] <triad> restart your adapter
[16:04] <DancesWithKows> how
[16:04] <cristian__> i need a help with bash i'm in panic using grp
[16:04] <triad> well, try unplug and plug again the usb adapter
[16:04] <DancesWithKows> hmm ok
[16:04] <DancesWithKows> will try that
[16:04] <DancesWithKows> tanks
[16:05] <triad> it might work.
[16:05] <DancesWithKows> yeah didnt try that yet
[16:05] <triad> hehe
[16:05] <DancesWithKows> brb trying it
[16:05] <cristian__> can someone help me with grep?
[16:05] <triad> cristian__: Please don't ask to ask. Just say what's your problem.
[16:05] <cristian__> i need to delete some line using grep from a pipeline result
[16:07] <cristian__> my problem is this... i'm redirecting an output to grep, but i need to delete some special caracters and some duplicated lines. -.- i'm in panic
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Hey, I'm having these frequent streams of xruns, and yesterday I think I've narrowed things down to needing a realtime kernel.. Any comments on that?
[16:17] <biifer> Hi, I'm getting an error when I try to update my system: "W:Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 173.194.69.136 80]
[16:17] <biifer> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[16:19] <disown> crazy question but I am wondering are freenode irc or irc in general used by students more then workers/proffessionals or are most of the channels here from exprienced proffesional ?
[16:19] <TJ-> disown: Almost all Ubuntu developers use IRC
[16:20] <disown> so then the most knowledgeable people in the field would be using it ?
[16:20] <TJ-> biifer: You'll need to remove the Google repository from the list of software sources, or correct it, because it seems they've taken away that repository.
[16:21] <TJ-> disown: It's the common way that dev's around the world communicate
[16:21] <disown> make sense , no more mailing lists or forums ... well maybe irc is the quickest and prefered way to do it
[16:23] <Kihokki> Does anybody here use Intel GMA3600? Any news for upcoming drivers?
[16:23] <TJ-> We generally use IRC for real-time figuring out, and mail-lists for stuff we want to ensure is in the record... mailing-lists tend no to get missed unlike an IRC conversation that you might not see because you're in bed in a different time zone
[16:26] <cristian__> Guys, ho can i create a filter using grep to delete strings with <TD>12345 and change strings with <TD>NAMES or special caracters in "from Name or special caracters"
[16:26] <TJ-> cristian__: Use "sed"
[16:26] <biifer> TJ-: Brilliant, found the /etc/apt/sources.list file and just commented the google line, thanks for the help
[16:27] <cristian__> TJ how?
[16:27] <cristian__> can u help me ?
[16:29] <TJ-> cristian__: For example: "sed -e 's/\(<TD>\)NAMES/\1Names/g' -e 's/<TD>12345/d' /path/to/somefile"
[16:29] <cristian__> i dont know nothing about sed
[16:30] <UbuntuChristian> Hey, im having some trouble with opengl using Ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 5750G, anyone knows anything?
[16:30] <cristian__> says '/' unmached
[16:31] <UbuntuChristian> Strangely works with Linux Mint, both 64 bit versions
[16:31] <nabeen> is there something wrong with the ruby on rails package on the repository?
[16:31] <triad> Hm..
[16:31] <triad> UbuntuChristian: All updates made ?
[16:31] <TJ-> cristian__: I typed it off the top of my head, didn't test it. The 2nd term was wrong I think: "sed -e 's/\(<TD>\)NAMES/\1Names/g' -e '/<TD>12345/d' /path/to/somefile"
[16:31] <nabeen> its been a huge pain in the ass for me
[16:32] <cristian__> sorry i used > to save it :D
[16:32] <UbuntuChristian> @triad yep, everything updated
[16:32] <UbuntuChristian> how can i send private messages here Oo
[16:32] <triad> 2x click on a name
[16:32] <Kihokki>   /query nickname
[16:32] <UbuntuChristian> ok thx
[16:32] <gitesh> How do I make Network Manager (nice GUI) to manage DSL connections *Default which booting system* ?
[16:33] <gitesh> *while
[16:33] <triad> don't you have any options there ? something ..a box to check ?
[16:33] <WeThePeople> gitesh, it should manage DSL already..?
[16:34] <gitesh> WeThePeople , Its been changed , i have to set using  ppoeconf everytime.
[16:34] <gitesh> my mistake
[16:34] <Kihokki> You mean autoconnect?
[16:34] <WeThePeople> ahh
[16:35] <gitesh> yes, I am not seeing autoconnect at GUI.
[16:36] <TJ-> gitesh: Is there a "available to all users" tick-box ?
[16:37] <cristian__> Tj
[16:37] <gitesh> TJ- Yes
[16:37] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know why Ubuntu's libgl1-mesa-dev isn't including the static (libGL.a) version?
[16:37] <gitesh> there is , and its ticked
[16:37] <cristian__> TJ i mean <TD>12345/ <TD>EVERYNUMBER that doesnt start with special caracter/
[16:37] <TJ-> gitesh: I think that is supposed to mean "bring up at boot time for all users" so if it isn't coming up I'm not sure why
[16:38] <gitesh> hmm.....
[16:38] <TJ-> cristian__: sed using regular expressions to match and do replacements; you'll need to read a good sed tutorial e.g.  http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[16:40] <cristian__> TJ for example... <TD>12345 is a normal numer, it hass to be deleted... if there are numbers with special caracters like +123456 they must be saved removing just the <TD> tag
[16:40] <WeThePeople> gitesh, you might have better luck in #networking
[16:40] <gitesh> ok, WeThePeople, i try that.
[16:42] <TJ-> cristian__: What you want is complex; sed can do it, but you'll need to practice a bit with it to get the hang of its power
[16:42] <cristian__> -.- godness
[16:42] <cristian__> u dont know hot to ?
[16:43] <TJ-> atari314: libGL.a is in libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev
[16:43] <cristian__> just becouse i dont want to study sed -.- i hate it -.- it's to complicated for me
[16:43] <TJ-> I know how to. The purpose of this channel is not to do things for you, but to help you learn how to do them for yourself
[16:44] <cristian__> -.-
[16:44] <cristian__> thx
[16:45] <cristian__> i'm here to ask for a help not for a wiki link
[16:48] <laci> hello
[16:54] <WHAT_DOWN> i'm in an apartment building where i'm not allowed to connect wireless routers to the wall, but i can connect them to the computer. is there any way i can use a router to allow my phone to tether to my computer for internet access?
[16:54] <WHAT_DOWN> or even just tether the router to the computer
[16:54] <theadmin> WHAT_DOWN: Uh, why do you need a router for that? Just tether it to the computer. What OS does the phone have?
[16:55] <WHAT_DOWN> android
[16:55] <theadmin> WHAT_DOWN: Then it's simple. Settings -> Wireless Networks -> Tethering and Portable Hotspot -> USB Tethering -> Enable
[16:55] <WHAT_DOWN> the computer doesn't have wireless, which i guess will make things a problem
[16:55] <disown> you can connect your phone to a wireless router in the network settings of it
[16:55] <davidhurwich> hello
[16:56] <disown> from there you can connect your computer thru your phone to the wifi router
[16:56] <disown> by setting it as an access point
[16:57] <disown> so re cap just connect your phone to the wifi router via the network settings and also thru the network settings set up an access point SSID on your phone then connect your computer to it. But why not directly connect to the wifi router in the first places
[16:58] <disown> via your computer
[16:58] <theadmin> disown: Phone has the internet in this scenario, not the router.
[16:58] <theadmin> disown: So that's what (s)he's trying to figure out
[16:58] <disown> O so you are using the 3g for your internet you have an APN then
[16:59] <theadmin> Which is much easier resolved by directly plugging the phone in
[16:59] <samuel> anyone here know of a channel where i can get hold of people from yorba?
[17:00] <disown> in that cases all you have to do is enable wifi access point on your phone and connect your computer via the SSID of your phone
[17:00] <disown> when it shows up in the networks availabe on your computer
[17:00] <samuel> or alternatively someone here that knows alot about shotwell
[17:01] <theadmin> disown: Aaand the computer doesn't have wireless, which is why the best idea here is USB tethering
[17:01] <theadmin> samuel: Shotwell is the default photo manager in Ubuntu, so shoot
[17:01] <samuel> cool
[17:01] <samuel> well just lately it has been detecting alot of my photo's as duplicate
[17:01] <samuel> even though they are not
[17:01] <samuel> to the point that i have whole days of photographs missing
[17:02] <samuel> and random ones in existing events that are missing
[17:02] <disown> if you don't have wifi on your computer your only option is to tether directly thru usb or if your computer has bluetooth though thats more difficult to set up
[17:02] <samuel> the files are there on the computer, but they do not show up in shotwell
[17:02] <samuel> when i try to manually plant them in, it says that it is already there
[17:03] <samuel> so do have to delete my shotwell database file and start again, ro is there some other way around this?
[17:03] <theadmin> samuel: Well, wait for someone who knows.. Cause I don't, I just know that this question is okay to ask here
[17:03] <theadmin> I use, uh, I think Gwenview.
[17:05] <samuel> ok well i will hang about, hopefully i can get the photo's in without wiping my database
[17:05] <davidhurwich> Hello, don't mean to interupt i wondering if i could ask Ubuntu question
[17:05] <davidhurwich> to the group
[17:05] <samuel> there is no such thing as interrupting, this is ir
[17:05] <samuel> irc
[17:05] <samuel> just say what you want when you want :D if someone knows the answer they will chip in, thats how it works here
[17:06] <davidhurwich> i been running ubuntu 11:10 for a while, when i upgraded 12.04 it has trouble finding my wireless card
[17:07] <samuel> what make/model of wireless card do you have?
[17:07] <davidhurwich> i gone to system settings to remove and add the STA wireless driver, but it still doesn't seem to find it
[17:07] <samuel> broadcom?
[17:07] <davidhurwich> yes
[17:07] <davidhurwich> Broadcom STA wireless
[17:08] <samuel> what broadcom have you got? mine is a bcm4313
[17:08] <samuel> do lspci in the terminal, it will tell you there
[17:09] <MrSergeantBigfoo> hi
[17:09] <davidhurwich> hmmm, not sure
[17:09] <davidhurwich> ok
[17:09] <samuel> hi mrsergeeantbigfoo
[17:10] <MrSergeantBigfoo> anyone know the best java JRE for tekkit minecraft?  OpenJDK bugs too much :/
[17:10] <samuel> i'm using sun java 6
[17:11] <MrSergeantBigfoo> k thanx samuel
[17:11] <samuel> but i have had some success with openjre7
[17:11] <davidhurwich> Broadcom BCM4311
[17:11] <samuel> i dont think the guys at minecraft have optimised for java 7
[17:11] <MrSergeantBigfoo> for me the zombies are all messed up and the engines dont render properly
[17:11] <savio> hello
[17:11] <MrSergeantBigfoo> hi
[17:12] <samuel> davidurwich - its always best to have the exact make and model of the hardware you are having a problem with
[17:12] <DJones> MrSergeantBigfoo: I don't have any issues with OpenJDK 6 and minecraft, that works as well as Sun Java (For me anyway)
[17:12] <bunjee> anyone help me access terminal?
[17:12] <samuel> and lspci will tell you if it is something like a wireless card or graphics card
[17:12] <samuel> lsusb will tell you about anything connecting through a usb bus like a webcam or touchpad
[17:13] <MrSergeantBigfoo> im talking about the tekkit modpack.  Normal minecraft works fine for me too.
[17:13] <samuel> bunjee, just do ctrl+alt and T
[17:13] <samuel> hello savio
[17:14] <davidhurwich> is the wireless driver Network Controller under lspci
[17:14] <davidhurwich> ?
[17:14] <samuel> yes
[17:14] <samuel> cos on a laptop it uses a micro pci connector
[17:14] <MrSergeantBigfoo> gotta go
[17:14] <savio> hello samuel
[17:14] <davidhurwich> according to lspcii its Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[17:14] <samuel> touchpads and webcams are connected via an internal usb connector
[17:14] <davidhurwich> <rev 01)
[17:15] <bunjee> thanx Samuel!
[17:15] <xorox90> how can I deal wth package mass up problem after long time using ubuntu? although I always apt-get autoremove, some packages doesn't have proper dependency... so garbage leave..
[17:15] <samuel> now, i dont know of any specific issues with that card, but if i were you my next step would be to put into google the following
[17:15] <samuel> "ubuntu 12.04 bcm4311"
[17:16] <samuel> you may find a whole thread on ubuntu forums where someone has gone through exactly what you are going through
[17:16] <samuel> and you can see what they have tried, failed, and succeded on
[17:16] <samuel> i recommend that rather than us both running through all off that
[17:17] <samuel> i had an issue with my broadcom wireless card in that it only gave me 2 bars of signal
[17:17] <samuel> but i found a thread on ubuntu forums with the resolution
[17:17] <davidhurwich> Ok, thanks i see what the forums have
[17:17] <samuel> oops you may have missed some of what i said davidhurwich
[17:17] <phred_> hi all
[17:17] <samuel> i will repeat the important bit...
[17:18] <samuel> google this "ubuntu 12.04 bcm4311"
[17:18] <samuel> without the speech marks
[17:18] <samuel> hi phred
[17:18] <samuel> i'm not sure whether you are asking or telling xorox90
[17:18] <davidhurwich> okay thanks
[17:18] <phred_> so who's the guru here today?  :)
[17:19] <samuel> i always find synaptic package manager useful for problems with packages
[17:19] <samuel> phred if you just ask, if there is someone reading that knows the answer they will chip in
[17:19] <samuel> you dont have to be a guru to answer some questions
[17:19] <phred_> ok... never been to this channel before
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | davidhurwich
[17:19] <phred_> i want to know how to bypass a dpkg error message
[17:20] <davidhurwich> thanks man, i appreciate it
[17:20] <samuel> you mean you want to force the package to install anyway phred
[17:20] <phred_> yes
[17:20] <phred_> i am running kubuntu... tried to upgrade from natty to oneiric a few days ago
[17:20] <samuel> i believe you can do that by adding -f or -F cant remember which to your command
[17:20] <samuel> check the manpage
[17:20] <phred_> nope
[17:20] <phred_> doesn't work
[17:21] <phred_> problem is that netbase won't install... i keep getting an error about md5hash
[17:21] <phred_> but i have downloaded several different times... i know the .deb file is good
[17:21] <phred_> now i just want to force dpkg to ignore the error and install it anyway
[17:21] <samuel> the md5hash error appears to disagree with you
[17:21] <phred_> yes, it does
[17:22] <phred_> but i have downloaded and extracted it several times from different sources
[17:22] <phred_> i have scanned my file system and found no errors
[17:22] <phred_> i am convinced the error is either a) bogus, or b) refers to some config file somewhere that is borked
[17:23] <TJ-> What is the error message, precisely?
[17:23] <phred_> hang on
[17:23] <Calahan> hi
[17:25] <phred_> in isolation, the error reads:
[17:25] <phred_> Setting up netbase (4.47ubuntu1) ...
[17:25] <phred_> dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
[17:25] <phred_>  failed to read on buffer copy for md5hash: Input/output error
[17:25] <phred_> i have even tried different versions of netbase in an effort to resolve the problem
[17:25] <phred_> i can find no legitimate reason for the error
[17:26] <phred_> and yet, as you can see, networking seems to be working
[17:27] <TJ-> phred_: That's a sure symptom of a corrupted disk
[17:27] <phred_> i have scanned it and found no errors
[17:28] <phred_> if there's a corrupted file somewhere that i could delete and try again, i'd love to find it
[17:28] <TJ-> Have you checked the kernel log for reports of disk read/write errors? /var/log/kern.log
[17:29] <phred_> no... hang on, i'll do that
[17:30] <Kircle> I'm trying to install emerald on 12.04 in a virtual machine before installing it on my actual desktop (had trouble with it in the past). I followed a tutorial on how to get it working in precise but after typing emerald --reload nothing changes
[17:30] <phred_> i do have a number of disk errors, but those are mostly a result of the peculiar hardware setup
[17:30] <phred_> would dpkg.log be more informative?
[17:30] <Kircle> using fusion icon makes parts of the screen go black and eventually crashes compiz.
[17:33] <deitarion> I've got an old Athlon 2500+ that I'm setting up with Lubuntu but it's not offering me an nVidia binary driver for the GeForce4 MX 4000 in it. Since I'm planning on donating this to someone needy, what's the least fragile way to stop Flash from crashing immediately on plugin load? (YouTube is the ONLY thing I need to fix before it's ready to give away)
[17:34] <theadmin> deitarion: If it's YouTube, why do you need Flash?
[17:34] <theadmin> deitarion: Let it load it's HTML5 version and that's it
[17:34] <deitarion> theadmin: Don't they still blacklist the HTML5 player on any video that needs to display ads?
[17:34] <theadmin> deitarion: Do they? I have no idea...
[17:35] <theadmin> deitarion: I have adblock plus %)
[17:35] <theadmin> deitarion: Oh yeah, it says they don't
[17:35] <theadmin> deitarion: How did you install Flash anyway?
[17:35] <deitarion> theadmin: I checked the "Install patented codecs" checkbox in the installer.
[17:36] <theadmin> deitarion: Oh, that... I have no idea what that really does, but yeah, that should be enough. Hm.
[17:36] <deitarion> theadmin: The problem is that Flash crashes when you use Nouveau as the video driver.
[17:36] <phred_> would gnash help?
[17:36] <theadmin> deitarion: Hm... Why not install nvidia-current?
[17:36] <theadmin> Or yeah, gnash might be good too
[17:37] <deitarion> This is the first machine I've had with a video card older than a GeForce FX5200 and, hence, the first one where it hasn't offered an nVidia binary driver. I'm guessing the GeForce4-series is too old for nvidia-current. (I'll try it. If that doesn't work, I'll see if nvidia-legacy still exists and works.)
[17:38] <deitarion> I find Gnash too unpredictable to put on a machine I'm gonna donate.
[17:38] <phred_> it doesn't always work, but it seems at least to be stable on my systems
[17:39] <deitarion> I have trouble keeping Gnash stable on my geek box. Everything else, my mother uses every day and the worst issue she's run into is that LightDM silently fails to login if the hard drive is full because the un-privileged subprocess can't log into the root-reserved free space.
[17:40] <phred_> you're way beyond my skillset now... :)
[17:40] <deitarion> Gnash also gives confusing results when you try to play a flash file which uses unsupported opcodes or ActionScript classes and, last I checked (about a month ago), it still had AV desync issues when playing an MP3 BGM track on a drawn/tweened/animated (non-FLV/MP4) video track.
[17:41] <phred_> is there a generic driver available that might work instead of the nvidia proprietary one?
[17:41] <guthrie> hiya
[17:42] <agentgasmask> guthrie: Hey. :)
[17:42] <theadmin> phred_: The "generic" one is vesa, but...
[17:42] <theadmin> phred_: That's gonna get ugly on a more-or-less big screen.
[17:43] <pranavk> using openvpn i am connected to the openvpn server now creating a new network interface tun0, now i have two network interface eth0 and tun0, how do i tell my applications to use tun0 now instead of eth0
[17:43] <pranavk> ?
[17:43] <deitarion> phred_: I suspect Flash will crash on anything that doesn't give it the GPU acceleration it wants. The only option I can think of there would be to copy the config file from my desktop where Flash works well enough for me to disable acceleration and write out the binary config file.
[17:43] <phred_> i think 800x600 looks great on a 21" monitor!  :)
[17:44] <deitarion> (The human-readable /etc config file only lets you force-ENABLE GPU acceleration. To force-disable it, you have to use the GUI INSIDE the flash plugin which writes a binary blob config file at ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
[17:44] <lmarietto> salve
[17:44] <lmarietto> !list
[17:45] <deitarion> ...and I'm wary of that option because, if someone using the machine says "Hey! GPU acceleration!" and changes the setting, their only option is to ask someone with working flash to disable GPU acceleration and send over their settings.sol... which also happens to contain a list of all the domains you've visited with Flash.)
[17:46] <DAN_> Can anyone help with installing ubuntu?
[17:46] <phred_> just curious: does that video card use shared system memory?  if so, could there be a conflict of some kind?
[17:46] <DAN_> It just freezes once it has rebooted to complete install.
[17:46] <deitarion> phred_: No. It's a discrete GPU. I just don't have anything newer in AGP except for the GeForce MX5200 I'm already using in a PC I don't want to give away.
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, black screen?
[17:46] <DAN_> it seems to be different every time I try
[17:47] <TJ-> pranavk: you create a new default route that uses tun0
[17:47] <DAN_> But yes, black screened on a number of occassions
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | DAN_ try this
[17:47] <DAN_> thanks, but tired it
[17:47] <DAN_> tried it
[17:47] <DAN_> no joy
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, you would insert nomodeset in the krnel at grub the link shows how.
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> ah DAN_
[17:48] <DAN_> yes, tried it. it doesn't work.
[17:48] <pranavk> TJ-: okay, thanks
[17:48] <DAN_> Techie friends are  all perplexed
[17:49] <phred_> is there a less-specific driver available from nvidia - one that supports the chipset but may not be optimized for that particular card?
[17:49] <DAN_> It worked wonderfully on my puny little netbook, but not on my main laptop
[17:49] <phred_> DAN_: could there be a loose hardware connection somewhere (drive cable, for example)?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, the live cd worked fine?
[17:50] <DAN_> until it reboots to complete install
[17:50] <DAN_> it doesn't work either when doing it from a USB/Disk
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> same basic install
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, where you on the net on the installs ans clicked the update on install>
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> and*
[17:52] <DAN_> what?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, there is a box that can be clicked to have updates installed while installing, it may be a driver that would have been picked up then.
[17:53] <DAN_> ok, I'll start again with it and see if I can do that. ty
[17:53] <phred_> good luck
[17:53] <cristian> hi guys
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, might be easier then waiting for a search of the problem , may not hard to say.
[17:54] <cristian> i need to delete one variable number using sed from a line, excluding lines that contain words or special caracters can you help me ? this doesnt work sed -e 's/^[0-9]$//g
[17:55] <DAN_> Doesn't appear to be an option for thatr
[17:55] <arabi> hello guys
[17:55] <arabi> is there any andorid emulator available for 12.04 ???
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, you are using the live cd, should be 2nd or third gui has a third party baox as well.
[17:55] <arabi> do you have any idea?
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> box*
[17:56] <DAN_> it's definitely not there.
[17:56] <DAN_> yes, live cd
[17:56] <arabi> is there any android emulator available for Ubuntu 12.04
[17:56] <cristian> :'(
[17:56] <cristian> any help with sed?
[17:57] <DAN_> it asks me for size, enviornment, username and password...and then just installs. no further options.
[17:58] <phred_> wish i could help, cristian... not too good with regexs
[17:58] <crankharder> getting "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" while trying to update update-initramfs.  Seems that my /boot has 0 space left on it.  Is there anything I can do short of resizing that partition?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, here is a picture set of install. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> says wireless but more then that will be picked up.
[18:00] <DAN_> thanks. mine looks nothing like that at all.
[18:00] <phred_> crankharder: you probably need to purge some old kernels that take up space on /boot, but i don't know how to do that safely
[18:00] <DAN_> not this time around, at least.
[18:00] <WeThePeople>  i have resized my ntfs now i would like to expand the linux fs by that much and gparted doesnt have an option to do this, is there a program that can add freespace to a partition?
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, 12.04 correct?
[18:00] <DAN_> mine looks like this....http://praji.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/wubi.png
[18:01] <DAN_> 12.04, ye
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, that is a wubi install
[18:01] <Sidewinder1> WeThePeople, Gparted should do that; just make sure the partition you're trying to expand/shrink is unmounted.
[18:01] <DAN_> what's that?
[18:02] <Sidewinder1> WeThePeople, You may need to do that from a LiveCD environment.
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, also says 8.04 which is end of life I believe.
[18:02] <arabi> is there any android emulator available for UBUNTU 12.04 ??
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, A wubi instal is a install from windows
[18:03] <DAN_> 8.04 thing is just taken from google images. i'm deffo trying to install 12.04
[18:03] <DAN_> yes, well I am installing from windows...
[18:03] <Sidewinder1> Real friends don't let friends use wubi; WADR to the developers, of cource.
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, Installed from windows? that is the only way you would see that gui.
[18:04] <DAN_> yes, installing from win7
[18:04] <theadmin> cristian: Your regex looks correct, I have no idea why sed isn't working, but this seems to do the trick: perl -ne 's/^[0-9]$//;print'
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> Sidewinder1, So what do people do that have no other way such as a work computer with no vm.
[18:04] <Sidewinder1> Good question.
[18:04] <alecjw> hi there, how can i use the internal microphone in my laptop under precise?
[18:05] <cristian> with perl too ?
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> wubi has its place but I get your point.
[18:05] <Sidewinder1> How 'bout LiveCD..
[18:05] <theadmin> cristian: Why not? Perl is installed almost anywhere
[18:05] <cristian> -.- but i'm from maemo let me try it
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, Wubi is basically a try out install it is a file in windows rather then a full install dualboot, is that what you want.
[18:06] <Sidewinder1> wilee-nilee, I agree; I just cringe when folks try to use it on a long term basis, upgrades, etc.. But I know what you mean.
[18:06] <DAN_> ideally. not ready to junk windows yet
[18:06] <DAN_> esp because currys tells me doing so would invalidate my warranty
[18:06] <cristian> doesnt work
[18:07] <Sidewinder1> DAN_, Just do a "real" dual boot; I've been doing exactly that for years now.
[18:07] <DAN_> meaning?
[18:07] <cristian> this is the command line
[18:07] <cristian> sqlite3 -html /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db "SELECT start_time,end_time,is_read,remote_uid,free_text,group_uid,outgoing FROM Events WHERE service_id=3 AND (event_type_id=7 OR event_type_id=11) ORDER BY group_uid,start_time" | sed -e 's/^<TD>//g' | sed -e 's/<\/TD>//g' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]$//g' | perl -ne 's/^[0-9]$//;print' | grep -v "<TR>" | grep -v "</TR>" > /home/user/MyDocs/output.html
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> DAN_, you don't need to junk windows, I have multiple installs on one hd, W7 and 3 linux installs, some cringe at this though. This does not fix your original problem other then a full install would allo the updates and may be fine.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> allow*
[18:08] <phred_> if doing a dual boot with windows, EasyBCD (http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD) is your friend
[18:08] <cristian> but in the html outputfile i still have a line with a Number
[18:08] <Sidewinder1> DAN_, That's the whole purpose of Dual Boot; to have win on one partition and win on another. Then you can use which ever OS meets your needs, on an application basis.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> phred_, so is grub2 easybcd is a okay setup but not really needed if you understand the mbr, and have the right discs.
[18:09] <Sidewinder1> Oops Win on one and ubuntu on another, sorry.
[18:09] <Sidewinder1>  Time for a break. :-(
[18:09] <phred_> wilee-nilee: AND you intend to use grub as your bootloader.  If, on the other hand, you really want or need to use the Windows bootloader, EasyBCD is your friend.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> phred_, To each their own. ;)
[18:10] <Sidewinder1> "Tis all about choices. :)
[18:10] <w0rm> yo
[18:10] <Sidewinder1> yo
[18:11] <alecjw> hi there, how can i use the internal microphone in my laptop under precise?
[18:11] <alecjw> i've tried changing the "connector" option in sound settings to internal mic with no success
[18:11] <alecjw> it used to work but it's stopped now
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> alecjw, you have checked in sound that it is not off?
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> or turned down
[18:12] <alecjw> wilee-nilee: yup. it's at a sensible volume and not muted
[18:12] <alecjw> sox hears nothing
[18:13] <alecjw> i tried this workaround with no success: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/946232/comments/32
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> not sure myself
[18:17] <SkippersBoss> alecjw. What happens if you shut down pulse (temporary of course )
[18:17] <R4is> Hi.
[18:18] <R4is> :'(
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> R4is  did you have a question?
[18:19] <R4is> No .pershen irani
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> !ir
[18:24] <DAN_> Ok, tried that
[18:24] <DAN_> it just freezes once on boot
[18:25] <JC-PTY> hello guys, i am connected from my windows computer through ssh to my ubuntu 12.04, i would like to start x11vnc server and then access the whole gui... there is any tutorial on how to do this?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> JC-PTY  putty?
[18:26] <JC-PTY> i am using CRT
[18:27] <JC-PTY> but i am already connected to the ubuntu system
[18:27] <JC-PTY> i just want to be able to start the vnc from the ssh session and then to connect through.. so i was wondering where i could find those commands
[18:29] <hylian> hello all
[18:31] <kazagistar> I have a netbook, and as soon as my system hits even a medium memory load, it starts freezing up for minutes, and sometimes longer... the mouse can move, but I cant actually do anything, even switching to TTY1 and trying to log in takes a min for each step of the process. Is there something wrong with swap or something?
[18:32]  * erdeniz facepalm
[18:32] <trism> JC-PTY: after connecting to my host (which already has a logged in user) with: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 user@host; this is the script I use to start x11vnc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143458/
[18:33] <savio> hello
[18:34] <hylian> savio: hello, can i help you?
[18:34] <savio> yah
[18:34] <CookieM> kazagistar maybe relogging to unity 2D might help
[18:34] <hylian> savio: what's up?
[18:34] <savio> hylian, not much
[18:34] <savio> hylian, what abt you
[18:35] <Debolaz> CookieM: Unity2D doesn't really have a smaller memory footprint.
[18:35] <Debolaz> kazagistar: How much memory do you have on your system?
[18:36] <kazagistar> Debolaz:  1 Gb... should I switch back to a different DE?
[18:36] <Debolaz> kazagistar: You might want to try to enable zram.
[18:36] <Debolaz> kazagistar: http://berle.cc/2012/08/11/improving-low-memory-ubuntu-performance-with-zram/
[18:38] <kazagistar> Debolaz: I'll give that a try, thanks!
[18:40] <kazagistar> Another question... is there a way to make unity work nice with multiple screens? My issues are having 2 copies of the launcher bar, and the mouse sticking to the edge of the screen when I try to switch sides
[18:41] <trism> kazagistar: you can configure those in the Display settings
[18:41] <trism> kazagistar: if you aren't using one of the proprietary drivers that is
[18:44] <biifer> something died on my system and i was unable to reach the menu that pops up when I usually holds the mouse to the top left corner om my scree. after a quick log out and login again i restored my chrome session, i then had a new tab open: a google search for "Hi. this is barcelona" anyone has any ideas what this came from?
[18:44] <kazagistar> trism: I am using the proprietary drivers. I had heard that good, gaming level performance cannot be achieved with the open source drivers
[18:50] <savio> hello gays i like to contribute for ubuntu
[18:50] <savio> i also submitted  application for bugsquard
[18:50] <ThinkT510> !contribute | savio
[18:51] <Kircle> I have a theme that was created for an older version of gnome and when I use it using 3.4 certain text is displayed as white making it almost un-readable in certain areas due to white backgrounds. How do I update the theme to play ball with 3.4? The author no longer takes interest in his themes
[18:51] <nashirak> I am having trouble deleting a file (as root).  I just installed a new mother board and I am getting permission denied when I try to delete the file.  In dmesg I get ata3.00: error {UNC} then ata3.00: failed command: Read DMA.  Its a reiser fs partition, if that makes a difference.  Any thoughts?
[18:53] <dylan> nashirak: what is the location of the file?
[18:53] <nashirak> dylan: /usr/share/doc/libnss3/copyright
[18:54] <nashirak> dylan: I was trying to do a apt-get upgrade and when it went to remove that package I started getting permission denied on that file.  I am stuck in apt-get limbo until this gets resolved
[18:55] <dylan> hit cntrl+c to stop the command
[18:56] <nashirak> dylan: Cntrl-C may stop the command but it doesn't fix my HDD problem.
[18:56] <qermanymuscLe> uLLiiia gel burayaa
[18:56] <qermanymuscLe> :d
[18:56] <qermanymuscLe> :)
[18:59] <erdeniz> Hi everybody!
[19:01] <Debolaz> Hi Dr Nick!
[19:04] <kartlos> hey guys, I managed to boot ubuntu 12.04 with grub-efi, so both videocards that are in this macbook pro are detected, the problem is that both are being used, is it possible to disable one videocard?
[19:07] <dylan> nashirak: your not supposed to be able to edit user, same reason you can't edit sys
[19:07] <dylan> iirc
[19:07] <trism> kazagistar: there is an option in ccsm under the unity plugin on the experimental tab if you can't access the Display settings
[19:08] <dylan> nashirak/win 2
[19:14] <noworldorder> hi!  Need some assistance please :)
[19:15] <noworldorder> ubuntu 12.04
[19:15] <noworldorder> cannot update
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !enter | noworldorder
[19:16] <noworldorder> sorry
[19:16] <noworldorder> when i try to update I get this http://pastebin.com/FEsTsZem
[19:17] <DJones> noworldorder: You need to complete the captcha before the pastebin will work
[19:17] <ThinkT510> noworldorder: looks like there is something wrong with the skype repo
[19:17] <noworldorder> oops - just did
[19:18] <bekks> DJones: YOU have to fill it in to view what he pastebined ;)
[19:18] <noworldorder> so is there a way to disable the skype repo?
[19:18] <DJones> bekks: It worked 2nd time, I've never seen the viewer have to complete a captcha for a pastebin
[19:18] <noworldorder> it was my error
[19:19] <ThinkT510> noworldorder: you could comment it out in the sources.list file
[19:19] <noworldorder> i am a big newbie so can you tell me where sources.list is
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !sources | noworldorder
[19:20] <dougl> what is the best way to install the latest cups in my kubuntu 12.04?
[19:21] <ThinkT510> dougl: whats wrong with the one in the repos?
[19:23] <dougl> ThinkT510, 1.5.3 you mean?
[19:23] <ThinkT510> dougl: 1.5.2 in 12.04
[19:24] <ThinkT510> !info cups | dougl
[19:25] <noworldorder> I looked at sources.list but i do not see anything specific to skype
[19:25] <dougl> ThinkT510, I did a dist upgrade and ended up with 1.5.3 but printouts look like http://imagebin.org/224201
[19:25] <dougl> ThinkT510, I did not know if I could get support for older version
[19:25] <ThinkT510> noworldorder: pastebin the sources file
[19:26] <OerHeks> dougl, are you on 12.10 alfa3 now?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> dougl: we only support whats in the repo
[19:27] <dougl> ThinkT510, OerHeks got 1.5.3 thru apt-get update and dist-upgrade...
[19:28] <ThinkT510> dougl: must've recently hit the repos, ubottu doesn't see that version
[19:28] <dougl> hmmm
[19:29] <dougl> dunno much about that
[19:29] <ThinkT510> dougl: have you got some other repos activated? like a testing repo of some sort
[19:29] <Jerusalem420> hey guys, how do I get chrome to send magnet links to transmission. I'm running  Lucid Lynx  with chrome Version 21.0.1180.75 and transmission 2.33.
[19:33] <OerHeks> dougl, what is the output of ' uname -a "?
[19:33] <dougl> ThinkT510, nope - stock install with additional drivers adn the update/upgrade
[19:33] <dougl> 3.2.0-29-generic
[19:35] <morsnowski> hi guys, anybody an idea for a voice control app for 12.04/64?
[19:36] <dougl> morsnowski, good question
[19:37] <Edler> hey guys i want to run an ubuntu server on a mac using virtualbox. Wanted to know, is it possible for it to really act as a server even if it's a virtual os ?
[19:38] <syddraf> Edler: Yes. That's actually how most commercial server farms are setup.
[19:38] <Edler> really ?
[19:38] <Edler> so they emulate ubuntu
[19:38] <Edler> on a mac
[19:38] <Edler> ?
[19:38] <FloodBot1> Edler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <syddraf> Not specifically that, but using VMs is not at all uncommon.
[19:39] <MrGizmo757> can somebody help? i have an error SMbus not enabled. dmsg shows the driver but shows it being disabled.  how do i enable it?
[19:39] <syddraf> As long as you configure VirtualBox to pass through the network connection properly, I don't see it being an issue.
[19:39] <Edler> yes but i mean will the vm have the same IP as the mac, and someone trying to connect to FTP for example will end up connecting to the VM rather than just mac ?
[19:39] <Edler> yes that's what i'm talking about, you can make it pass the connection ?
[19:39] <syddraf> Edler: Yes. I haven't done it personally, but I know that it is possible.
[19:40] <Edler> okay and what about reboots, can Virtualbox open and run the vm on boot ?
[19:40] <syddraf> Haven't done it personally, but I don't see any reason you couldn't add VirtualBox to your startup list in mac.
[19:40] <Edler> awesome!
[19:45] <slpicker> I set the password to none. Now I have no root access. I did read the post about no root access, and it told me to go in to recovery mode. I did that. Except, it won't work?
[19:47] <bitmage> I'm trying to execute a cronjob... it runs fine from the command line but not from cron
[19:47] <bitmage> here's the command:  NODE_ENV=production /usr/local/bin/coffee /home/ubuntu/chiron/script/sendReminders >> /var/log/chiron.reminders.log
[19:48] <bitmage> I verified that cron is running and that it can execute scripts from my user's crontab
[19:48] <bitmage> I'm guessing there must be something different about the context in which it's executing the job?
[19:49] <dashavoo> does anyone have the deb for the old skype version?
[19:49] <boubou> hi
[19:50] <boubou> i need help
[19:51] <boubou> i download this xchat-gnome with ubuntu and i cant to connect me in other server
[19:51] <biifer> Hi. I have some issues with screen resolution. I have 2 24" monitors giving me a resolution of 3840x1200. Under "System Settings/Displays my setup is recognized as a "Laptop" with a 3840x1200 resolution, all in one screen. The "NVIDIA X Server" program recognizes 2 different screens and the more correct resolution of 2 times 1920x1200. The problems I get are related to full screen modes in different areas, Youtube for exam
[19:51] <biifer> ple does not show full screen correct, neither does XBMC. Any suggestions?
[19:52] <disown> where is the VFS virtual file system stuff being used in ubuntu I always uses just mke2fs and /dev/sda device files where is the VFS stuff come in ?
[19:54] <disown> because I see gnome-vfs-mime-magic and other files that references the vfs
[19:55] <vyath> Hi, my machine is stuck at the four loading dots.. I think it's a gfx driver issue but I'm not sure how to proceed on fixing it. can someone please point out a direction? thanks
[19:57] <bitmage> ok, so apparently I can run bash commands with cron but cannot run coffeescript for some reason
[19:58] <bitmage> it's perms are 755... I'm scratching my head
[20:00] <necro> hello how can i change the fan speed of my toshiba laptop
[20:00] <necro> ?
[20:01] <ki4ro_> necro: think you may have to ask Toshiba
[20:01] <necro> why? isnt it just ubuntu un general?
[20:02] <necro> in#
[20:03] <viruseros92> lu!
[20:03] <ki4ro_> necro: Yes this is Ubuntu but I don't believe there would be an answer here...not sure...love to hear what you find out though because I also have a Toshiba and have never found a way
[20:03] <Konata> Is the main ubuntu repo slow again or is it just me
[20:04] <viruseros92> français??? °_O!! :(
[20:05] <necro> ki4ro_:  thanks but isnt there a program that can help me change it?
[20:05] <ki4ro_> necro: Not that I have found yet
[20:06] <necro> you see.. my problem is that sometimes the fan doesnt work when booting my computer to ubuntu and the cpu temperature gets really high
[20:06] <guntbert> !fr | viruseros92
[20:07] <necro> ki4ro_: im affraid it might get too hot and danger the processor's integrity
[20:08] <DominicLow> necro, is it possibly a hardware issue?
[20:09] <harushimo> I'm setting noip on my ubuntu. I have an option eth0 and virbr0
[20:09] <harushimo> what does that mean?
[20:09] <DominicLow> eth0 and virbr0 are your network interfaces
[20:10] <DominicLow> eth0 is commonly the ethernet port if i'm not mistaken
[20:10] <harushimo> which interface would I use?
[20:10] <harushimo> eth0 is the nic card
[20:10] <harushimo> I never heard virbr0
[20:10] <DominicLow> whichever you are using for the internets would be best i think
[20:10] <harushimo> virbr0 is for a virtual machine right
[20:10] <DominicLow> i would think so, yes
[20:11] <harushimo> that makes sense
[20:15] <Lolcust> Hi community!
[20:15] <DominicLow> hello there!
[20:16] <Lolcust> I have Ubuntu 12, and I want a particular task (specifically, restarting a service which has an odd habbit of locking up after boot on old machines) to be carried out 2 minutes after reboot
[20:16] <Lolcust> I know cron can @reboot
[20:17] <Lolcust> But AFAIK cron cannot have "delay, then fire" trickery
[20:17] <goddard> how can I repair a broken keyring in netbeans?
[20:18] <DominicLow> lolcust, i am unfamiliar with cron but do you think its possible to chain it to a .sh script that does a kill, sleep, then start?
[20:19] <Lolcust> hm, might be
[20:19] <Lolcust> I'm far better with crontab then with .sh scripts
[20:19] <wulgulmerang1> Trying to get pymacs to work.  Downloaded pymacs archive.  make check.  make install.  (I'm using a virtualenvwrapper called 'play' if that makes any difference).  edited the .emacs file.  M-x pymacs-eval > os > RET and received "Pymacs helper did not start within 30 seconds".  Help? :/
[20:19] <DominicLow> i'm very new with .sh scripts but if you know the command to start it, the sleep function syntax is sleep (number of seconds)
[20:20] <th0r> Lolcust: the script is just a list of the commands you would put in crontab...kill the service, sleep, then restart
[20:20] <Lolcust> should work, thanks
[20:20] <Lolcust> I guess it's experiment time for me
[20:20] <DominicLow> best of luck in your experimentations 8D
[20:21] <dstaubsauger> hi! I'm trying to use SITPLUS with my webcam, but it crashes when i open the webcam configuration dialog. there's an error message on the cli saying "sitplus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/sitplus/libmod_camera.so: undefined symbol: cvCreateImageHeader". what can i do to fix this? sitplus and opencv from ubuntu repos are installed, i'm running precise.
[20:22] <disown> would people say lucid 10.4 is old if it is around 2 years old for a linux distro ?
[20:23] <mrdn> yes
[20:23] <dstaubsauger> disown: yes
[20:23] <disown> so your supposed to install a new os ever ,,,... how often ?
[20:23] <Konata> I wish that ./configure scripts would tell you all the missing dependencies instead of just failing on the first miss
[20:24] <disown> would you say to be normal
[20:24] <mrdn> depends a bit on whether you are talking about your private desktop or your company's data center
[20:24] <bekks> disown: Every two years. From LTS to next LTS :)
[20:24] <disown> ok ya, if that is most peoples beliefs then I am do for an upgrade every 2 ish years :)
[20:24] <ssmy> anyone have any experience with python 3 and cherrypy on 12.04? There doesn't seem to be a python3 package for cherrypy, even though it is compatible
[20:28] <Sidewinder1> disown, Please have a look at the difference between LTS and the regular, rolling releases that come out every 6 months or so. Choose what best meets your needs. :-)
[20:28] <royphelps> Does anyone know the best music program to install that will be closely related to itunes?
[20:29] <Sidewinder1> !best
[20:29] <disown> agreed
[20:30] <kr3nk1> w
[20:31] <kevin_> hi all. so for some reason my ps3 controller's input stopped, so i unplugged it. now 'lsusb' still shows it there as device 003... why is that? it's disconnected from the system, and dmesg shows 'USB disconnect, device number 3'
[20:31] <r0tha> kevin_: what version are you using?
[20:32] <kevin_> r0tha: 12.04
[20:32] <kevin_> and this isn't the first time this has happened. it has happened with other usb devices as well
[20:32] <r0tha> where do you see lsusb?
[20:32] <r0tha> on the desktop
[20:32] <bekks> r0tha: In a terminal :)
[20:32] <r0tha> huh
[20:33] <zykotick9> kevin_: notice the disconnect - dmesg is saying you unplugged it...
[20:33] <kevin_> yeah, terminal. and this is the output of dmesg around the time where it stopped working. i was using it inside VirtualBox: https://gist.github.com/a7ed5ce55a19ddb38a97
[20:33] <kevin_> zykotick9: i  did unplug it, but lsusb still shows it's connected, and reconnecting doesnt do anything
[20:33] <zykotick9> kevin_: if it was inside vbox - i have no suggestions...
[20:34] <kevin_> and by 'doesnt do anything', i mean dmesg didn't show a "USB connect" message. just acts like nothing happened
[20:34] <disown> question I know /etc/modules you can add any module to boot up at boot time but.... I noticed with lsmod a ton that are booted up by default when the /etc/modules is empty so where are these other ones being told to boot up from
[20:35] <ThinkT510> !upstart | disown
[20:37] <disown> no I am talking about the modules that are started by default that are not put in the modules file are you saying this is in the upstart shell script to start them
[20:37] <kevin_> is there any way to "bounce" the usb host controller?
[20:39] <Vlan> hi guys
[20:39] <Vlan> i'm trying to use ubuntu with two NIC cards
[20:39] <kevin_> mmm just gonna reboot. thanks guys. cheers
[20:39] <Vlan> unfortunately at the restart the addresses get messed up among the NICs
[20:39] <Dextralus> I've been having a spot of trouble with the wireless after an upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04 on a Samsung N220. On 10.04 I had to use ndiswrapper with XP drivers to be able to connect to wireless networks, but after the upgrade this no longer works. I know where to download the windows drivers and I've been following directions outlined here (http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide) to no
[20:39] <Dextralus>  avail: none of the available 32-bit windows drivers seem to work, and I'm stumped.
[20:39] <FloodBot1> Dextralus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <Vlan> how do i solve that?
[20:40] <tuxtux> Ciao
[20:41] <ssmy> Vlan: are you using the network manager? Maybe configure them manually in /etc/network/interfaces? Static IPs, right?
[20:42] <guntbert> Vlan: in what way do they get "messed up"?
[20:42] <zack6849> hey guys, i cant make my screens work, if i try to apply dual screens it throws an error, i wa told to change the xort.conf but that did nothing
[20:43] <necro> DominicLow:  how can i know if its a hardware issue?
[20:43] <Vlan> guntbert: i mean that i have two networks, servers and internet. when i reboot the two interfaces magically are connected both to internet
[20:44] <Dextralus> Just to clarify my previous message, wireless is not even available under all settings > network.
[20:44] <Vlan> ssmy: yes, i'm using the network manager but i also tryed with sudo gedit  /etc/network/interfaces but due to my lack of knowledge i didn't manage to do much about it
[20:44] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | Vlan
[20:44] <zack6849> L3top, can you gimme a hand man?
[20:45] <guntbert> Vlan: please use a !pastebin to show us the output of   ip add     and   ip route
[20:45] <Galvatron> Vlan:: In short, your personal configuration files might get owned by root.
[20:47] <necro> DominicLow:  how can i know if its a personal hardware issue?
[20:48] <DominicLow> necro: if you have other newer fans to temporarily replace it with, it would be a good measure to see if it is hardware of software related
[20:48] <L3top> not at the moment sorry zack6849. Giving support to 3 different folks for our project testing new code.
[20:48] <DominicLow> alternatively, perhaps use windows for a bit to see if the problem occurs at all
[20:48] <Vlan> ThinkT510: thanks for that
[20:48] <zack6849> L3top, alrighty then, ill just wait awhile
[20:49] <zack6849> anyone here who can help with issues regarding resolution?
[20:50] <BalthaTczar> someone knows a good snes emulator i can use with ubuntu that wont need to be manually compiled ?
[20:52] <ThinkT510> !find snes | BalthaTczar
[20:53] <BalthaTczar> zsnes i tried but i need to compile it first and install all kinds libraries and stuff
[20:53] <BalthaTczar> bsnes maybe
[20:54] <ThinkT510> BalthaTczar: compile? it's in the repos
[20:54] <BalthaTczar> so where do  i get it ?
[20:54] <BalthaTczar> apt-get zsnes ?
[20:54] <ThinkT510> BalthaTczar: sudo apt-get install zsnes
[20:55] <hans_> How would one contact canonical's legal department? I want to make them aware of a copyright infringment and scammer.
[20:55] <disown> wtf is the popularity-contest.conf popularity-contest in general for ?
[20:55] <BalthaTczar> ah right..
[20:56] <zykotick9> BalthaTczar: if you are on 64bit zsnes might be an issue...
[20:56] <ssmy> disown: popularity contest reports your installed packages to here: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ Disabled by default
[20:56] <ThinkT510> !canonical | hans_
[20:56] <BalthaTczar> im not fortunately
[20:57] <OerHeks> disown, conf files hold preferences
[20:57] <aladdini> #calibre
[20:57] <stinky> so is hacking away at .bashrc the only way i can make my remoterminal look more sexy?
[20:57] <stinky> i already have cowsay
[20:57] <Dextralus> Hi, my apologies if this constitues spamming - is there a more appropriate channel for my problem with the wireless? If not, I'll try again in a couple hours.
[20:58] <disown> stinky no :)
[20:58] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: what wireless do you have?
[20:58] <palisade> hi ugys
[20:58] <Vlan> Galvatron, guntbert: thank you guys, i solved by binding each network to its own MAC address
[20:58] <Ubunturific> any one running cairo-dock?
[20:59] <guntbert> !yay | Vlan
[20:59] <ThinkT510> Ubunturific: you probably are
[21:00] <Dextralus> ThinkT510, not quite sure what you mean - I know that the machine in question has a RTL8192E if that's what you mean.
[21:00] <palisade> hey i wanted to make a recommendation for future versions of ubuntu.... instead of copying and installing individual files/packages from the cd/dvd why not just dd a whole system image already prepared, and then add extra drivers and /etc config files on top of that as needed?
[21:00] <Dextralus> The windows drivers are not working through ndiswrapper on 12.04 though previously did for 10.04
[21:00] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: can you pastebin lspci
[21:01] <Dextralus> Sure. Might take a few moments
[21:02] <luftikuss> palisade: hi!
[21:02] <palisade> hi
[21:02] <disown> can one uses rc.local and add exec commands to it to run a anything they want on startup if like most times the startup is multiuser
[21:03] <palisade> any thoughts on my suggestion?
[21:03] <guntbert> palisade: you will not reach any developers here
[21:03] <palisade> oh woops
[21:03] <palisade> xD
[21:03] <Dextralus> ThinkT510, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143714/
[21:04] <cagrigurleyuk> hello
[21:04] <palisade> do i go to #ubuntu-dev or something?
[21:04] <hans_> palisade: try suggesting it on brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[21:04] <zack6849> can somone help e? im having an issue with my monitor setup and ive read quite a few articles and nothing seems to help
[21:04] <palisade> oh ok sounds good
[21:04] <guntbert> palisade: you could try #ubuntu-discuss though
[21:04] <hippiehacker> If I want to develop standard modifications to Unity (and Ubuntu in general) on a system (and per user basis). Should I be using gconf or dconf? The Unity UI seems to use both.
[21:04] <cagrigurleyuk> do you know by what mechanism the sidebar color changes through wallpaper change?
[21:05] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: try this: sudo modprobe r8192e_pci
[21:07] <Dextralus> ThinkT510, WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release
[21:07] <Dextralus> ... However, then my wireless connected immediately. Thanks a ton!
[21:07] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: no need for ndiswrapper
[21:07] <Dextralus> Fantastic
[21:08] <zack6849> guys, i really would appreciate any help greatly, ive been trying to fix this for days
[21:08] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: you may want to bookmark this page for future reference: http://www.linux-radar.net/linux-ubuntu-1204-realtek-rtl8192e-wifi-card-working-1204.html
[21:08] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | zack6849
[21:08] <disown> rc.local well I guess you could uses any script executed on start up to get the job done... but of course you would have to trace down where in the line up it is executed from :)
[21:09] <Dextralus> Ah you know, never even occurred to me to search by the card rather than the machine! Thanks again, ThinkT510.
[21:09] <ThinkT510> Dextralus: no worries :)
[21:09] <cagrigurleyuk> would anyone know by what mechanism the unity sidebar color changes through wallpaper change?
[21:14] <palisade> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30039/
[21:14] <palisade> there thanks i submitted the idea to the brainstorm site
[21:14] <ThinkT510> palisade: dd would ignore partitions
[21:15] <palisade> you could partition those afterwards
[21:15] <palisade> it would be a base system image
[21:15] <ThinkT510> palisade: don't you mean before?
[21:15] <DominicLow> would installing it as a dual boot system raise any problems though? not that familiar with dd
[21:15] <palisade> nope because the partition would be laid out in the image so it would be a raw copy with dd
[21:16] <cagrigurleyuk> palisade: what if I'd like my /usr on a different partition?
[21:16] <palisade> straight from disc to hdd
[21:16] <zack6849> im gonna go try the solution ThinkT510 provided
[21:16] <palisade> cagrigurleyuk: it could move that for you after the fact
[21:16] <zack6849> *crosses fingers*
[21:16] <palisade> but it'd still be faster than installing individual packages for a majority of users
[21:17] <three18ti> !ask
[21:17] <three18ti> !ask | /msg Atty
[21:18] <guntbert> !askthebot > three18ti
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> three18ti:  use just | or > to redirect the msgs ;)
[21:18] <three18ti> awesome, thanks.
[21:19] <three18ti> !ask > Atty
[21:20] <ThinkT510> palisade: if you dd an image how are you going to select the partition type or size?
[21:21] <ReZa__Ata> Fibanezr  wlc
[21:21] <ThinkT510> palisade: the partition layout has to be there before you copy the data over
[21:21] <palisade> ThinkT510: it gets selected before the image is made so the image is already prepared with a default partition type and size... it would have to be expanded afterwards with parted to reach the size that matches their hdd, but the image would be small enough to fit on most common hard drives today, there could be a second disc that still copies individual packages if the user prefers that i suppose and has a smaller hdd
[21:21] <zack_> ThinkT510, that solution didnt work :(
[21:21] <palisade> the layout is in the image itself
[21:22] <ReZa__Ata> Gringo54   wlc
[21:22] <dmc_> irc://irc.darksin.net/oltrevision
[21:22] <ThinkT510> palisade: thats a backwards way of doing it
[21:22] <palisade> ThinkT510: yes and also faster :)
[21:23] <palisade> because the individual packages don't have to be configured, individual files copied into individual directories, etc
[21:23] <ReZa__Ata> Dmc_   wlc
[21:23] <zack_> ThinkT510, i get the follwing error
[21:23] <cagrigurleyuk> palisade: that would also increase the installer image size considerably. i don't think you can keep packages in the same format for installing as a disk image and regular installing.
[21:23] <palisade> its a raw copy and is as fast as their hard drive and bus can handle
[21:23] <ThinkT510> palisade: so you'd need multiple images for each partition type (xfs, ext2/3/4, btrfs)
[21:23] <zack_> "requested position/size for CRTC 147 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[21:24] <guntbert> palisade: may I suggest you move that to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic? this channel here is for support
[21:24] <ReZa__Ata> Palisade  u?
[21:24] <ThinkT510> palisade: and the time taken to resize after the fact would increase the risk
[21:24] <palisade> ThinkT510: you'd choose one, anyone wanting a different file system would use the other disc that installs individual packages
[21:24] <ReZa__Ata> Gringo54 wlc
[21:24] <palisade> ThinkT510: but for the raw image copy it would be a default file system
[21:24] <palisade> guntbert: sure no problem
[21:25] <ReZa__Ata> Nicole  wlc
[21:26] <nicole> Hello, I am trying to reinstall FrostWire on Xubuntu, but when I remove all the installed files with Synaptic and then reinstall using the DEB file, all the settings come back the same.  How do I remove the configuration settings to reinstall from scratch?
[21:27] <DominicLow> try to check your home folders for hidden folders that may contain configuration files?
[21:28] <zack_> i still reie an error when turnin  on my seond monitor, tellling me its too big, my xort conf is right here :http://pastebin.com/dzgj2FEi
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> nicole:  you mean your USER settings?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> nicole:  or system wide configs?
[21:29] <nicole> I just went into the file manager and yeah there is a hidden .frostwire5 folder apparently, I just deleted it, going to try to reinstall again see if that works...
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> nicole:  reinstalling a package does NOT reset the USERS settings files...
[21:29] <nicole> there is only one user account on the system
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> nicole:  to repeate.. removeing and reinstlling a package.. will NOT reset, or fix any issues in the users home dir setting files..
[21:30] <k1l> Dr_Willis: she did remove the .folder
[21:30] <nicole> yes give me a minute or two to see if it works, thanks
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> removeing the settinghs dir - will reset the users settings. :)
[21:30] <k1l> Dr_Willis: that is what she wanted. read backlog
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> theres no need to 'reinstall from scratch' is the point im trying to make.. its a 'windows mentality' thang.
[21:31] <zack_> os[Linux 3.2.0-29-generic-pae i686] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[4 x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 93.4% free] disk[Total: 206.5GB, 83.5% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[21:31] <zack_> oops
[21:31] <k1l> ok. that is a good point so
[21:31] <cagrigurleyuk> would aynone know by what mechanism the sidebar color changes through wallpaper change? i'd like my gnome-terminal color to change with it as well.
[21:32] <nicole> lol yes I'm still new and use too much MS terms :-(
[21:32] <c_smith> cagrigurleyuk, I don't believe that last part is possible, as the Unity Sidebar partly does that with Compiz.
[21:33] <cagrigurleyuk> c_smith: everything is possible with a little bit of code, or so i believe. i'm just curious about the mechanism tbh.
[21:34] <nicole> yes!  it worked, thanks!  I just needed to delete the hidden folder, it didn't show up using "whereis frostwire" in Terminal after I uninstalled
[21:34] <c_smith> cagrigurleyuk, yes, part of the mechanism is Compiz, not sure about what else, though.
[21:34] <crimsonmane> Greetings. I am using a dual-boot, Maverick on one HD, WinXP on another. The windows side has become infected with a virus (malware/spyware, pick a term these days right?). What is the best approach to clean the windows side? I scanned that HD with ClamAV but nothing turned up.
[21:35] <nicole> Microsoft has a free malware scanner now for Windows
[21:36] <crimsonmane> you don't understand. the windows side is not usable, even in safe mode
[21:36] <xangua> crimsonmane: for windows support /join ##windows
[21:36] <k1l> crimsonmane: honestly i would consider to backup the files an make a reinstall since you never know where the vidus is located all about.
[21:36] <crimsonmane> xangua, it's actually ubuntu support, since i'm using ubuntu, isn't it?
[21:36] <nicole> oh that sucks, scan it using a live CD?
[21:37] <crimsonmane> nicole, that's no different than using the ubuntu HD in my dual boot setup
[21:37] <nicole> I'm not fond of ClamAV either, I can't get it to scan individual directories
[21:38] <nicole> I have dual-boot Windows Vista / Xubuntu here
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> clamscan directoryname   ?
[21:38] <nicole> using Wubi
[21:38] <crimsonmane> nicole, you need ClamTk to go with it. i don't like that it doesn't just do a system scan, i have to pick each directory.
[21:38] <cagrigurleyuk> crimsonname: i've yet to see an av software that works as intended, just backup whatever you need from the ubuntu side, reinstall.
[21:38] <snow__> is there any need to install antivirus on linux
[21:38] <crimsonmane> OH FOUND THE VIRUS! in programs folder!
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> snow__:  to scan widnows stuff... ;)
[21:39] <snow__> There seems no reason to use windows
[21:39] <crimsonmane> there really isn'
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> snow__:  games.. ;)
[21:39] <crimsonmane> t
[21:39] <zack_> can someone please take a look at this for me? it would be greatly appreciated http://pastebin.com/mhz5zFHp
[21:39] <nicole> yes you can always go through manually and search google for suspicious-looking filenames to see if they're legit or spam
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> zack_: always a good idea to at least give a summary of the isue.
[21:40] <zack_> the whole issue is described there Dr_Willis
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> zack_:  and if you expect people to just flock there when you cant even give a 5 word summary of what the problem is about... well.. dont expect many to go there.
[21:40] <zack_> ive summarized it so many times that ive grown tired of explaining it so many times!
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Printer? networking? wireless?
[21:40] <zack_> it won''t allow me to so my screen resolution for my second monitor
[21:41] <zack_> it throws an error and refuxes to work
[21:41] <bonez2046> where can I find a hardware compatibility list, need to see if a video card I have (diamond stealth 3d 2000 pro s3virge) will work on ubuntu
[21:41] <zack_> yes im using the driver for amd, yes ive looked at the xort page
[21:41] <crimsonmane> Dr_Willis, you're a prick :) it took two seconds to check his link. you could easily put forth that extra effort you're telling zack to do. he's not a pro like you.
[21:41] <khamul666> I have problem
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> crimsonmane:  90% of the time im on my cell phone and CANT check web sites..
[21:41] <khamul666> my wireless wont work
[21:41] <khamul666> can somebody help me
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> many othere are at work and cant go to many sites.
[21:42] <zack_> crimsonmane, although it seemed as if hje was being a tad harsh he was right, i should have at east said what the issue was
[21:42] <crimsonmane> zack_, future reference, sure.
[21:43] <khamul666> can somebody help me
[21:43] <zack_> so does anyone know what my problem is? Dx
[21:43] <bonez2046> also, how do I find driver?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> zack_:  last week someone had an issue/limit with the ati drivers where the max allowable res of the drivers for the 2 monitors combned in the X or Y was higher then what they wnated. they could do the 2 monitors on top of each other, but not left/right
[21:43] <zack_> Dr_Willis, that was me
[21:43] <khamul666> dont install drivers
[21:43] <zack_> see my point?
[21:43] <khamul666> they just mess up
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> zack_:  so it does work vertically?
[21:43] <zack_> i've been here since last week trying to fix this, yet i cant
[21:44] <khamul666> they mess up pc
[21:44] <BenLue> hi Fabias
[21:44] <zack_> Dr_Willis, it dooesnt een work vertically anymore
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> zack_:  any more?  You broke it even worse. ;P
[21:44] <khamul666> unnistal ati drivers
[21:44] <zack_> the solution the last guy  provided that allowed the verical thing wasnt correct for my driver
[21:44] <khamul666> they just mess up everything
[21:47] <Dextralus> Hi, sorry to be quite so needy with the assistance today. Someone helped me out earlier with my wireless problem, directing me to this page (http://www.linux-radar.net/linux-ubuntu-1204-realtek-rtl8192e-wifi-card-working-1204.html); however, I don't know exactly what to remove from my blacklist so that I don't have to enter sudo modprobe r8192e_pci after every reboot
[21:48] <Dextralus> To clarify I use a samsung n220 rather than the author's n130
[21:50] <salman> W4sp:?
[21:51] <DominicLow> dextralus: it should be the same two lines to remove i think
[21:51] <Dextralus> paste.ubuntu.com/1134801/ this is my blacklist file
[21:51] <in0cula> hi, it is possible to get a virus with wine? i accidentalli open an .EXE file from my mail, do you think is going to infect my system?
[21:51] <Dextralus> DominicLow, I would have thought so; however, they aren't there
[21:52] <salman> in0cula: just don't run it
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  worse case it messed up files in your home dir or the .wine directory.
[21:52] <salman> W4sp: you there?
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  ive ran malware in wine (in a test account) just to see what it does. ;)
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[21:52] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  or ran silly wrapper executables to get out the image/wallpaper/other junk the wife wanted.
[21:52] <DominicLow> dextralus: very strange. perhaps a system-wide search for such a file?
[21:53] <in0cula> can I be safe?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  check whats in your wine directrory. see what was recently made . or just delete your wine dir.
[21:53] <in0cula> how do i know everything right?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  did it actuall run?
[21:53] <zack_> http://pastebin.com/mhz5zFHp im not trying to spam the channel, i jsut really need help!
[21:54] <in0cula> it run but wine tell me there was an error
[21:54] <bekks> in0cula: By deleting and recreating your wine directory.
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  when in doubt. delet  the .wine dir.
[21:54] <in0cula> if i delete the wine dir my software?
[21:54] <Dextralus> Er woops, transcription error, my blacklist file is actually paste.ubuntu.com/1143801/
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> in0cula:  any windows apps you installed via wine are stored in .wine
[21:55] <snow__> is there any pdf annotating app for ubuntu
[21:56] <in0cula> i cannot delete my wine dir, i will lost all my software
[21:56] <bekks> Then you cant be safe.
[21:57] <in0cula> is there an ativirus for wine?
[21:57] <bekks> No.
[21:57] <bekks> You could run clamav from linux, but I doubt that will give you 100% security.
[21:57] <in0cula> is there a way to analyze the file I get to see what it does?
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> how much wine software do you really need?
[21:58] <Dextralus> World of Warcraft >.>
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> other then a few apps. i rarely need wine to run stuff..
[21:59] <Roasted> Hello!
[21:59] <W4sp> salman: Yes, I'm in.
[21:59] <Roasted> Question - I'm trying to do borderless printing to an HP Laserjet I have... I'm not seeing the option anywhere... anybody know offhand?
[22:00] <fede> holaa! / hi :)
[22:00] <gunarm> i just built a brand new tower to be a file server, I have 8x2tb drives, my plan was to do 1 to 1 mirroring while keeping them in a single large 8tb pool. First I was thinking RAID, but I dont know much implementation wise, and everything I read makes it sound so dangerous as to not be worth it.  Then I started thinking LVM 4 of them together and just do direct mirroring of each, but LVM mirroring techniques seems to be a complex topic on
[22:00] <gunarm>  its own, and its commonly suggested to do LVM on top of RAID, so back to that.  What is the risk of doing 4 Raid1s?
[22:01] <fede> is somebody here??
[22:01] <gunarm> compared to one giant raid5 or 6
[22:01] <fede> i'm new LOL
[22:01] <fede> I need help for compile an app
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> fede:  1569 People here...
[22:01] <fede> lol, HI !!
[22:02] <fede> I can't Install Play on Linux and I don't know why, I  use the command prompt to do it, i write this: sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[22:03] <fede> and the system recognyse it, but it doesn't finish the download/install process because my connection i shorrible (2000 B/S, yes, Bytes!!!)
[22:04] <DominicLow> gunarm: only issue i can see is in terms of space efficiency i think
[22:04] <fede> is there some other  way for install it?? thanks for listen me ;) I'm new on this
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> fede:  you can just install wine, and not use playonlinux,  or install wine first. that will get part of the stuff downloaded at least.
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> playonlinux wants to pull in  146mb of extra packages here..   You could try to install them one at a time.. ugh..
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> heh. wine wants 145mb of packages.. :) guess playonlinux is 1mb..
[22:06] <fede> yes, I know it, but I can't download iit!!!!
[22:06] <fede> LOL
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> fede:  not a lot we can do about your poor internet connection. There was a apt-torrent tool. but i dont know if its even supported/working any more
[22:07] <fede> I have a bad luck on this days xD sorry for my english, but I'm from Uruguay, so I just speak spanish :D
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> !info debtorrent
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> No idea how well debtorrent works
[22:08] <fede> ok, later i want to test it :)
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-transport-debtorrent
[22:08] <fede> sorry for the help :)
[22:08] <fede> oh, i want ask you some thing
[22:09] <Roasted> Question - I'm trying to do borderless printing to an HP Laserjet I have... I'm not seeing the option anywhere... anybody know offhand?
[22:09] <fede> the play on linuux, is because I want to play angry birds on my laptop (when I was used windows, on this lapptop) and I can't play now on Linux Ubuntu with wine, I want to Kill me !!!
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> fede:  google+ has angrybirds that can play in a browser.
[22:11] <fede> Yes, I know it, but i Haven't internet connection on my house, so i never can PLay, now I'm on the +house of my best friend :S
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> http://chrome.angrybirds.com/
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> perhaps a flash offline downloader tool..
[22:11] <WeThePeople> does anybody know how to expand a ubuntu partition from unallocated space on the harddrive
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  expand one using Unallocated space? gparted from a live cd - is the normal tool people use.
[22:12] <fede> ohhh yes! install to play offline!!!! I love u LOL
[22:12] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, tried gparted.. it doesnt have a function to do that
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  Im not clear on what you want then.. if i   have (sda1 100gb) (sda unallocated)    then gparted can resize sda1
[22:13] <l1nr007> Hello,..does anyone know why line #247 is not working .. here is the code: http://pastebin.com/sTGXZWv5 it's not perfect.. but it does the job ;) the goal is installing the gnome-shell themes
[22:13] <gunarm> WeThePeople, i thought gparted could do it, if not just try other partition editors in synaptic
[22:14] <WeThePeople> gunarm, it only can decrease the partition
[22:14] <DominicLow> wethepeople, did you try it off a livecd or directly while you are still on your os?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> Ive enlarged partitons all the time with gparted.
[22:14] <gunarm> WeThePeople, is there unalocated space?
[22:14] <gunarm> adjacent
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople: a pastebin of your fdisk -l output may be helpfull..
[22:14] <fede> so, is there some way for download Play on Linux on other pc (Windows) and then install it on my PC???
[22:14] <WeThePeople> dominiclow, i used a live cd
[22:14] <WeThePeople> gunarm, yes
[22:15] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, ok
[22:15] <fede> I have installed just ubuntu on my pc, I uninstall windows ;)
[22:15] <mpereira> i'm trying to set keybindings with gsettings under ubuntu 12.04 without success. for example, this doesn't work: `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings move-to-workspace-up "['<Shift><Alt>K']"`. if i run `gsettings monitor` before running that command if outputs me the supposed change. also, configuring the keybindings through the GUI works just fine
[22:16] <gunarm> fede, i dont think anyone knows about using Play on Linux
[22:16] <mpereira> i've used gsettings successfully to change the text scaling factor i.e. `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor 1.2`
[22:16] <mpereira> what am i doing wrong?
[22:16] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143840
[22:16] <fede> Let me explain, it's an application (O
[22:16] <Roasted> Question - I'm trying to do borderless printing to an HP Laserjet I have... I'm not seeing the option anywhere... anybody know offhand?
[22:16] <fede> (Plugin)
[22:17] <fede> for wine, that have libraries (like directx, etc)} that it do that we can playwindows
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  so what one are you wanting to expand? wheres the unallocated space?
[22:17] <fede> games on Linux
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> fede:  playonlionux is just a fancy front end to 'Wine'
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> !wine | fede
[22:18] <fede> i don't uin
[22:18] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i will show you gparted gui.. is there a paste bin for images?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot
[22:18] <fede> understand, so I can't  play my games on !wine ?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  your 2 linux partions are logicals Inside an Extended.. the windows one is a Primary..
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> fede:  wine is what lets you run windows apps on linux
[22:19] <fede> yes, i know it, but play on linux is an extension of wine, that have libraries, understand?? :S
[22:19] <system055> no drinking please.
[22:19] <nb-ben> Dr_Willis it does a little more than that
[22:19] <zack6849> would it get me help any faster if i had teamviwer?
[22:19] <fede> and it have directx and many others, that with a normal installation doesn't work
[22:19] <system055> stay sober
[22:19] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, is it possible to extend a logical partition
[22:20] <nb-ben> Dr_Willis: it arranges to install additional plugins and selects the correct WINE version for the game
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  if you use lvm
[22:20] <nb-ben> or application, seeing as it doesn't only contain games
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  with space from the primary? You have to first shrink the primary, then expand the extended I think., THEN add the space from the extened into the logicals
[22:20] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, sudo apt-get install lvm ?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  i always use primary partions  to avoide this.
[22:20] <nb-ben> gnome3 looks kind of nice
[22:21] <nb-ben> anyone tried it with ubuntu so far
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  start here http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[22:21] <fede> nb-ben this is I say, it's a  like a plugin, that apport more compatiblility, no??
[22:22] <nb-ben> fede: it is just piecing already-made software together
[22:22] <Debolaz> nb-ben: I hear some say they like it a lot, but I just find it too difficult to get into the flow I'm supposed to use. There's very little in terms of guidance and it feels very unintuitive.
[22:22] <nb-ben> fede: it's like a WINE version/plugin selector
[22:22] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i shrunk the primary, and gparted made the unalocated space.. if that makes sense
[22:22] <WeThePeople> made it*
[22:23] <fede> Ok, :) Linuxsers :D Do where are you from??
[22:23] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, thanks
[22:23] <fbh> The moon
[22:23] <nb-ben> Debolaz: I see.. so far from youtube videos I really liked the cleanness of it, no attempt at making very fancy graphical UI which I also like
[22:23] <fede> LOL, why not from Mars??
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> WeThePeople:  yes. Makes sence to me.
[22:24] <nb-ben> Debolaz I kind of dislike this play with "lights" they do using gradients, which gnome3 doesn't seem to make use of
[22:25] <Debolaz> nb-ben: Visually, it's very neat looking. Certainly more attractive than Unity. But it all depends on if you can get into the workflow that it's designed for.
[22:25] <fede> bye bye, I need go :S Good Luck for all :)
[22:25] <nb-ben> if you can get into emacs you can get into anything
[22:25] <Debolaz> nb-ben: Valid point. :-)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> 'emacs is a great OS, all it needs is a nice text editor'
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[22:26] <Debolaz> nb-ben: Give it a go, only way to find out.
[22:28] <nb-ben> I am :)
[22:29] <Artemis3> nb-ben, and when you enter reason, go with xfce :)
[22:29] <nb-ben> netinstalling a fresh ubuntu now on my new HD thru a VM
[22:30] <nb-ben> meh didn't like xfce, though I guess it probably changed since a few years ago
[22:30] <fbh> And when you get tired of XFCE; because you will. Look at Awesome :p
[22:31] <nb-ben> looks like xfce hasn't changed much
[22:31] <Artemis3> nb-ben, its a classic desktop, thats the point; but you can try 4.10.
[22:32] <nb-ben> classic desktop you can manufacture using almost any window manager
[22:32] <nb-ben> what attracts me is this new elegant gnome3 UI
[22:32] <Gonzo> i installed ubuntu from windows using the installer which seeems to have created a partition within my ntfs partition. it is only 18 gigs and i am sort of running out space. is there a way that i can resize that partition?
[22:33] <DominicLow> gonzo, defrag your windows, then using live cd, use gparted to adjust
[22:33] <Gonzo> i cant boot on a live cd
[22:33] <LuizsecBrazil> ifro brasil
[22:33] <Dextralus> Hello, I'm still having a bit of trouble with my wireless. After following the directions at http://www.linux-radar.net/linux-ubuntu-1204-realtek-rtl8192e-wifi-card-working-1204.html I still experience loss of wireless function after reboot as the suggested lines in the blacklist file are not present (I use a Samsung N220 rather than N130). This is my blacklist: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143801/
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> Gonzo:  you did a wubi install? theres ways to resize/enlarge it.. but If you are using wubi that much. a full normal install mey be a better idea
[22:33] <Gonzo> its a crappy notebook, there's no cd and the sd won't allow me to boot from it
[22:33] <Gonzo> wubi install correct
[22:34] <LuizsecBrazil> agum brasileiro
[22:34] <Gonzo> yeah a normal installl would clearly be better,
[22:34] <nb-ben> Gonzo there's gparted for windows
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:34] <nb-ben> iirc
[22:34] <Dextralus> I did remove ndiswrapper per the instructions offered by leokemps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701070
[22:34] <Gonzo> but im trying to avoid reinstalling
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> theres tools to convert a wubi install into a normal install..  Or so i hear. ;)
[22:34] <Gonzo> nb-ben,  cool and it will detect the linux partition that probably resides in a file on disk?
[22:34]  * ksksal LISTEN :: radio URL: http://playbackfm.listen2myradio.com
[22:35] <Gonzo> Dr_Willis,  you dont happen to know what that tool is?
[22:35] <nb-ben> Gonzo nope, I was wrong
[22:35] <nb-ben> Gonzo you can boot it from USB though
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Gonzo:  nope. I dont touch wubi at all..
[22:35] <Gonzo> nope this computer wont allow me to boot from usb, its freakin painful
[22:35] <Gonzo> they've embeded the rescue disk in the machine
[22:35] <nb-ben> and you have no CD drive?
[22:35] <Gonzo> and that just formats the whole thing and re-install windows
[22:35] <Gonzo> nope its a notebook
[22:36] <nb-ben> hah
[22:36] <Gonzo> and im kind of lost in the colombian jungle
[22:36] <nb-ben> well, if you have grub
[22:36] <Gonzo> there is grub
[22:36] <nb-ben> actually
[22:36] <nb-ben> why not just boot into your linux
[22:36] <nb-ben> and run gparted from there
[22:36] <nb-ben> oh, cause u can't shrink it then
[22:36] <Gonzo> hmmm let me check if that works
[22:36] <nb-ben> don't it won't
[22:36] <nb-ben> lol
[22:37] <Gonzo> gotta wait for texlive to finish installing anyway
[22:37] <Gonzo> dont have gparted
[22:38] <minashokry> Hello, while upgrading my server from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 I had problems and now many packages are left unconfigured. when I run "dpkg-reconfigure -a" I see a message from AddUser package asking about home directories privacy, whatever I answer yes or no, it appears again repeatedly. Anyone can help?
[22:38] <nb-ben> read this Gonzo: http://gparted.org/livehd.php
[22:38] <nb-ben> you will need to create a new partition for gparted though
[22:38] <nb-ben> through your linux
[22:38] <Gonzo> ah nice
[22:38] <Gonzo> thx
[22:38] <nb-ben> nevermind
[22:39] <nb-ben> erase
[22:39] <nb-ben> i am confusing you
[22:39] <Gonzo> well i think i get the idea, it sounds like something that could work
[22:39] <nb-ben> it has instruction about booting gparted from iso, you should do that
[22:39] <zack6849> nb-ben, can you give me a hand by any chance? im having an issue where my monitors wont both work on ubuntu
[22:39] <zack6849> sudo bash minecraft_installer.sh --install-clien
[22:39] <zack6849> oops
[22:39] <nb-ben> zack6849 what graphics card do you have
[22:39] <zack6849> http://pastebin.com/mhz5zFHp
[22:40] <minashokry> Hello, while upgrading my server from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 I had problems and now many packages are left unconfigured. when I run "dpkg-reconfigure -a" I see a message from AddUser package asking about home directories privacy, whatever I answer yes or no, it appears again repeatedly. Anyone can help?
[22:40] <zack6849> amd adeon hd 6870
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> nb-ben: gparted is on the ubuntu CD...
[22:40] <nb-ben> zack6849: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127664/dual-monitors-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04-ati-radeon-hd
[22:41] <nb-ben> I found this on google
[22:41] <zack6849> no, nb-ben they work in mirror
[22:41] <zack6849> they wont work in dual mode though
[22:41] <zack6849> please read this
[22:41] <zack6849> http://pastebin.com/mhz5zFHp
[22:41] <nb-ben> do you have Open ATI driver?
[22:41] <nb-ben> because if you do, then using their GUI you can change it like you can in Windows
[22:42] <seeitbelieveit> Hi I am looking for some tools to unlock a drive from a laptop, laptop is dead, have password, which tools do you recommend, I have not gotten far with hdparm is there anything else?
[22:42] <zack6849> im using the one from additional drivers
[22:42] <zack6849> the proprietary
[22:42] <nb-ben> did you follow my link?
[22:42] <zack6849> your link is if it wasnt detecting my display
[22:42] <zack6849> it detects just fine
[22:43] <nb-ben> it is?
[22:43] <zack6849> it even will mirror
[22:43] <zack6849> thats what it says...
[22:43] <zack6849> dual-monitors-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04-ati-radeon-hd
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> seeitbelieveit: ubuntu can mount most partition types. Is it NTFS?
[22:43] <Roasted> so, each job I print comes through as 0k in size and never prints. uhh????
[22:43] <nb-ben> if you follow this link and still don't know where to go in order to change it from duplicate displays towards extending displays
[22:43] <nb-ben> I cannot help you.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: what printer?
[22:43] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, HP Laserjet 2100TN
[22:43] <OerHeks> zack6849, you made a typo i think >>> outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920, 1920)  <<<< last entry should be 1920, 1080
[22:43] <nb-ben> you should follow that link
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: why not say that instead of the worthless 'uhhh?' thing?
[22:44] <nb-ben> seeing as it includes suffice information for your own problem
[22:44] <nb-ben> sufficient *
[22:44] <zack6849> OerHeks, i never typed that, thats the default generated
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: the make and model of the printer is the most useful information you could give...
[22:44] <zack6849> nb-ben,  when i open it it says i need to launch as superuser
[22:44] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, please accept my most sincere apologies.
[22:44] <nb-ben> well, then type in your password
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: do you have the latest HPLIP?
[22:45] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, no idea. Whatever is in 12.04. I didn't do anything special to install this. It's a networked printer.
[22:45] <OerHeks> zack6849, you know how to use sudo.
[22:45] <zack6849> brb
[22:45] <nb-ben> he doesn't need to, it will just ask him for a password
[22:45] <zack6849> nb-ben, it didnt originally
[22:45] <zack6849> there were 2 different versions
[22:45] <zack6849> administrative and normal
[22:46] <zack6849> i never saw the admin one
[22:46] <nb-ben> I see
[22:46] <Guest61879> hello
[22:47] <Guest61879> im a new ubuntu user
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: grab the latest hplip run file from the hplip site and install it, then remove the printer and reboot, then re-add the printer
[22:47] <nb-ben> welcome to ubuntu Guest61879
[22:48] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, for what it's worth, it worked fine until I tried to set my page size to less than 8.5 by 11.
[22:49] <Brasil_Hackers> hacker anonymous fudeo com o linux o ubuntu
[22:49] <nb-ben> Brasil_Hackers: I'm not impressed.
[22:51] <djzn> hi,i wanted to know if I can prevent from applications to "inherit" the top bar in unity when they are maximized as well as get rid of the global menu
[22:51] <Brasil_Hackers> ddos
[22:51] <system055> linux for this one dell dimension 1100
[22:52] <carlos-linux> hi all, can you tell me how to remove unity completely without any errors or something like that?
[22:52] <nb-ben> djzn you can
[22:52] <nb-ben> I think it's in compiz settings
[22:53] <nb-ben> you should see a unity settings icon
[22:53] <nb-ben> if it's not there then it's somewhere else in the settings
[22:54] <zack6849> nb-ben, THANK YOU SO MUCH
[22:54] <nb-ben> np zack6849
[22:54] <nb-ben> I was once in your boat
[22:54] <nb-ben> lol
[22:54] <zack6849> i feel pretty dumb sincie ive been trying to make this wok for about 3 days
[22:54] <zack6849> >_>
[22:54] <zack6849> then it took you like 5 seconds on google
[22:54] <nb-ben> as I said, I was once in your boat
[22:54] <nb-ben>  so I knew what to look for
[22:54] <gurjeet> Hi all, I have just successfully installed 12.04 on MacBook Pro 9,1. And I need some help to tweak the experience.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: could try setting it back...
[22:54] <zack6849> seeet!
[22:55] <zack6849> it even lets me do the large resolutions
[22:55] <zack6849> thanks man!
[22:55] <nb-ben> dw about it ;p
[22:58] <zack6849> now what do i do.
[22:58] <zack6849> xD
[22:58] <zack6849> i've been trying to toy around with ubuntu to learn the ropes and such
[22:58] <zack6849> anything i should check out?
[22:58] <gurjeet> First off, the MBP is hot from CPU. If I run MacOS X the machine remains cold to touch, but withing 10 minutes of booting into Ubuntu, the laptop turns hot.
[23:00] <nb-ben> zack6849 I find that if you look for something to do with ubuntu you'll probably find it boring
[23:00] <nb-ben> instead you should look into doing things using it
[23:00] <djzn> nb-ben, which setting
[23:00] <nb-ben> dj look for unity in your start menu
[23:00] <Roasted> gurjeet, that could be related to the fact that OSX tells the system when to cool down prior to it needing it, whereas Ubuntu is more of a reactive type - System heats up, THEN afterwards Ubuntu says cool down.
[23:00] <nb-ben> or compiz if you can't find unity
[23:01] <Roasted> gurjeet, side effect of Apple hardware, to be honest.
[23:01] <gurjeet> How do I make sure that the CPU fan is running fine.
[23:01] <gurjeet> Roasted: Please excuse me. Just got on a call.
[23:03] <Pessimist> What are some good apps like Minitube?
[23:03] <zack6849> nb-ben, the only thing that i can think of to do is play with java coding
[23:03] <zack6849> and run my servers
[23:04] <OerHeks> gurjeet, did you check the mactel pages ? i believe there is a PPA for fancontrol
[23:04] <zack6849> i do those on windows usually
[23:04] <licnep> since upgrade to 12.04 when i switch to tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1) and then back to tty7 the display is hugely offset, i can only see a small stripe of my desktop. Anyone got this issue? any ideas?
[23:04] <nb-ben> zack6849: you could download Heroes of Newerth too ;)
[23:05] <zack6849> nb-ben,  not ound in software center
[23:05] <nb-ben> http://heroesofnewerth.com
[23:05] <bunjee> what's the terminal command to open a terminal?
[23:05] <zack6849> my main reason to get on  ubuntu was to see what all the hype was about
[23:05] <zack6849> i usually use windows
[23:05] <zack6849> i've used windows since i was like 3, i used to play on my grandpas thinkpad on paint
[23:05] <zack6849> xD
[23:05] <grizlo42> is there a way to get the equivalent package names in apt-get corresponding to yum packages?
[23:05] <OerHeks> bunjee, i use ctrl + alt + T
[23:06] <nb-ben> zack6849: well, everything works just fine
[23:06] <nb-ben> zack6849: and that's about it
[23:06] <zack6849> anny huge advantages vs windows?
[23:06] <OerHeks> bunjee, else the actual command is gnome-terminal
[23:06] <zack6849> aside from security?
[23:07] <zack6849> i use my pc mainly for gaming, hence my reasoning to not switch completley to linux
[23:07] <zack6849> the day ubuntu has bf3 and skyrim, i will switch
[23:07] <nb-ben> zack6849: it works faster, more reliable/stable, you don't have to pirate anything, more customizable (you have many choices for desktop software)
[23:07] <nb-ben> zack6849: its package manager is incredible
[23:07] <bunjee> thank you 0erHeks!!
[23:07] <zack6849> don't have to pirate you say?
[23:07] <zack6849> direct me to the free movies!
[23:07] <zack6849> xD
[23:07] <OerHeks> !ot
[23:08] <Pessimist> Anyone here with Xubuntu? If so, maybe you can share good websites for Xfce themes?
[23:08] <nb-ben> zack6849: to use windows you have to either pirate it or pay a premium
[23:08] <zack6849> eh, i priate most everything
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> http://xfce-look.org/
[23:08] <zack6849> OerHeks, i have the stragest feeling that was directed to me
[23:08] <zack6849> >_>
[23:09] <nb-ben> apart from gaming (eventhough Linux has pretty incredible games too), it's a fully working and tasty operating system
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> part of the gnome-look.org network..  it seems.. first google hit.
[23:09] <OerHeks> yes, piracy is not on topic in this channel & freenode, thanks.
[23:09] <grizlo42> Pessimist: I personally think the xubuntu default theme works very well. clean and streamlined. as long as you go ahead and tweak the terminal color scheme =)
[23:09] <djzn> nb-ben: hey how can you do that in unity
[23:09] <zack6849> i really like the way linux looks, in fact i modded my windows to look like it
[23:10] <Pessimist> someone kick zack6849 please
[23:10] <zack6849> D:
[23:10] <zack6849> i'll leave :(
[23:10] <zack6849> sorry
[23:10] <nb-ben> don't
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> Do you have a support question?
[23:10] <OerHeks> zack6849, have fun with your server :-)
[23:10] <zack6849> don't? o_0
[23:10] <grnt> Somebody kick Pessimist in balls
[23:10] <zack6849> i was just told to leave by 3 people...
[23:10] <grnt> ^_^
[23:10] <nb-ben> zack6849: just don't talk about piracy or admit to doing it
[23:11] <zack6849> oh okay >_>
[23:11] <zack6849> nb-ben, whats the linux equivalent of a batch file? a .sh?
[23:11] <grnt> zack6849: yes
[23:11] <kalebmcc> Can someone help me get my screen resolution and compisiting working? I'm having trouble with GRUB and X...
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> you can script in linux in any of several languages zack6849
[23:11] <nb-ben> not only
[23:12] <nb-ben> you can use any interpretor
[23:12] <grnt> This is the closest one
[23:12] <nb-ben> even php
[23:12] <nb-ben> but yes bash is most common
[23:12] <zack6849> Dr_Willis, i was mostly asking because i need to know what to save my script for launching myy minecraft server in as
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> the .sh extension is not needed
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> zack6849:  just save it and make the file executable.  .sh is optional
[23:12] <kalebmcc> I tried Ask Ubuntu but no one is responding and I'm in a bit of a hurry... http://askubuntu.com/questions/175074/how-do-i-adjust-the-resolution-on-an-hp-g6-laptop
[23:12] <zack6849> thats neat
[23:13] <zack6849> kalebmcc, have yopu tried using the displays application?
[23:13] <zack6849> *you
[23:14] <grnt> I would say that adding .sh is good practice though. One can instantly see it's a script, not a program
[23:14] <kalebmcc> Yes, I looked in Displays and my native resolution of 1366x768 is not listed, only 1024x768
[23:14] <nb-ben> kalebmcc: it probably means you don't have the correct driver installed
[23:15] <OerHeks> kalebmcc, hp G6 with a dual videocard ?
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> err.. a script is a program. :) you got dozens if not hundreds of bash scripts in your normal path.
[23:15] <kalebmcc> I tried enabling FGLRX drivers through additional drivers, but the post-release updates won't activate only the original
[23:15] <kalebmcc> I'm not sure how to check if this model has dual videocard
[23:15] <Pessimist> kalebmcc, what gpu do you have (lspci)?
[23:16] <nb-ben> Dr_Willis: he probably meant that it's not a binary program (compiled)
[23:16] <djzn> how do I do so the application won't mix with the top panel in unity?
[23:16] <grnt> nb-ben: yep
[23:16] <djzn> i mean, when maximized
[23:17] <nb-ben> djzn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[23:17] <nb-ben> ^ found this on google
[23:17] <kalebmcc> I ran the lspci command and it spat out a large chunk of data, I'm not sure how to output it to txt for pastebin or what parts you'd be interested in
[23:18] <Pessimist> kalebmcc, we want to know what GPU you have, try lspci | grep "VGA"
[23:19] <kalebmcc> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[23:19] <kalebmcc> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M Series]
[23:19] <nb-ben> alright just finished installing
[23:20] <nb-ben> I'll brb on ubuntu ;p
[23:21] <Pessimist> kalebmcc, are the propertary drivers really necessary? Have you tried to do what you want with Xorg radeon driver?
[23:21] <kalebmcc> I don't know how to do what I want, haha
[23:21] <kalebmcc> I just thought enabling the additional drivers would help, I don't know
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> what do you want to do?
[23:22] <kalebmcc> change my resolution to 1366x768 and enable compositing
[23:22] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[23:22] <L3top> kalebmcc: You need a program called vga-switcheroo if your bios will not allow you to disable the intel. Unfortunately it will not use the fgrlx driver.
[23:22] <OerHeks> =dual videocard
[23:24] <kalebmcc> I don't particularly care about using FGLRX specifically, if the other driver will enable compositing
[23:24] <Mysterytrain> uh, apt-get install samba doesn't work?
[23:24] <cc11rocks> My HDMI out is not working at all...It screws up the stuff on my screen when I plug it in (can't open minimized windows) and nothing shows up on the television
[23:25] <Pessimist> Mysterytrain, there is no such package samba. But there is samba4... use apt-cache search <package name>
[23:25] <cc11rocks> I upgraded to 3.5.1 kernel yesterday to get rid of the no-direct connect bug if that means anything
[23:26] <cc11rocks> I have never tried HDMI before, so it may not be because of the upgraded kernel
[23:26] <bonez2046> how can I find whether a particular video card will work with ubuntu 12.04, i.e., whether I can find a driver for it
[23:26] <cc11rocks> My graphics card is Intel HD 4000 in case that matters
[23:26] <Pessimist> cc11rocks, some info would help. GPU? (lspci | grep "VGA"), opensource or propertary drivers?, linux kernel version
[23:27] <cc11rocks> cc11rocks@cc11rocks-Lemur-Ultra:~$ lspci | grep "VGA"
[23:27] <cc11rocks> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[23:27] <cc11rocks> GPU = Intel i5 3210M
[23:27] <cc11rocks> I didn't install any extra drivers or anything (other than System76 drivers)
[23:28] <ugly_duck> update-rc.d -f heartbeat remove <-- this actually deletes the file from /etc/init.d/ correct?
[23:28] <Dextralus> Hello, I'm still having a bit of trouble with my wireless. After following the directions at http://www.linux-radar.net/linux-ubuntu-1204-realtek-rtl8192e-wifi-card-working-1204.html I still experience loss of wireless function after reboot as the suggested lines in the blacklist file are not present (I use a Samsung N220 rather than N130). This is my blacklist: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1143801/ I have also removed ndiswrapper as p
[23:28] <Dextralus> er the instructions from leokemps (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701070)
[23:29] <xnuil> please, how can i remove unity? i had installed gnome-shell yet but i don't know how to remove completely unity
[23:29] <cc11rocks> Pessimist - You stuck or is help coming? Not trying to rush, just trying to figure this out...
[23:29] <Dextralus> Er, sorry, those aren't the ndiswrapper instructions, but I did also do as leo suggested there.
[23:30] <trism> ugly_duck: no, it just errors if the /etc/init.d/ file isn't already deleted, unless you use -f
[23:30] <Pessimist> cc11rocks, I don't have any experience with intel drivers/gpus so I can't help you. I Just wanted you to post more info which would help others to help you. Good luck.
[23:30] <cc11rocks> Forgot to mention that the HDMI connection initially worked for about 15 seconds...Then it stopped working
[23:31] <cc11rocks> Pessimist - Okay, thank you
[23:32] <dylan> I can't get my second monitor to work with my laptop
[23:32] <dylan> any help?
[23:32] <Mysterytrain> ah duh. I forgot to do apt-get update on this new install. no wonder it couldn't find it lol
[23:33] <Pessimist> cc11rocks, try using askubuntu.com
[23:34] <ozatomic> When tring to shutdown a 12.04 Virtual MAchine. It is hanging ( [251154.363182] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (6349) terminated with status 1) and it jsut hangs. Looking at the logs that is the only message i get becasue all other logging gets turned off?
[23:34] <kalebmcc> Okay, after some fiddling I got most of it working
[23:34] <dylan> I can't get my second monitor to work with my laptop
[23:34] <dylan> It doesnt even detect it
[23:35] <Hetep> umm, having trouble getting a connection to the internet with the webbrowser & other applications, though connection is working to IRC & Skype... any suggestions?
[23:35] <kalebmcc> If I change GRUB's startup options using e before booting Ubuntu and change nomodeset to modeset=1, I'll start out with a very dark screen but 1366x768 resolution
[23:35] <kalebmcc> If I login and change the brightness, everything is okay, except I still don't have compositing
[23:36] <kalebmcc> However, if I restart it goes back to nomodeset even though I changed it to modeset=1 in /etc/default/grub
[23:38] <snagglepuss> kalebmcc:   did you remember to also rung   update-grub   after making your changes?
[23:38] <kalebmcc> no, thank you for that reminder!
[23:38] <snagglepuss> yw
[23:39] <kalebmcc> will this also make the brightness stay up when I reboot or will I have to fix it every time?
[23:40] <snagglepuss> kalebmcc:   just started using unbuntu so will have to let someone else field that issue  :-)
[23:41] <Draugauth> How do you make ubuntu bring back the desktop without doing a reboot when it has shut down the monitor?
[23:41] <Pessimist> kalebmcc, update-grub  is a stub for running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:41] <Pessimist>        to generate a grub2 config file.
[23:42] <kalebmcc> okay, I'll be right back, going to try something
[23:44] <Mikeulus> I have built unity 6.0 and am interested in switching between the version of unity that the system has and the one I built. What exactly does 'unity --replace' do?
[23:44] <Hetep> anybody have a clue?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> Mikeulus:  perhaps /path/to/your/build/unity --replace   ;)
[23:46] <trism> Mikeulus: the /usr/bin/unity is just a python script, look at the reset_unity_compiz_profile function
[23:47] <Mikeulus> trism: I see
[23:47] <Mikeulus> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> so its actually telling compiz to change to the other unity
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> but unity is a compiz plugin. so im not clear on how compiz can have 2 unity plugins of differnt versions.
[23:50] <dylan> Hey guys, I can't get my second monitor to work in Ubuntu, it's VGA, any help?  It doesn't even detect it.
[23:50] <Mikeulus> I see. This is perfect. Looking at the reset_unity_compiz function now
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> dylan:  whats the video card setup? it was plugged in and on when you booted up?
[23:53] <rooter_> which is the best site to learn the shrell and shell commands?
[23:53] <dylan> yes it was plugged when I booted, and it's just a stock laptop
[23:53] <rawfodog> why isnt there a mame front end for ubuntu ?
[23:53] <dylan> Dr_Willis: yes it was plugged when I booted, and it's just a stock laptop
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  used to be several of them.   may not be in the repos any more.
[23:54] <rawfodog> Dr_Willis, yeah I know, why is that ?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> gnome-video-arcade - Simple MAME frontend
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search mame    shoed that one...
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.zophar.net/frontends/mame.html no idea how up to date.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> MythTV even has (had?) a Mame Front end plugin i recall.
[23:56] <Mikeulus> trism: would you happen to know if the hud is a standalone binary?
[23:57] <trism> Mikeulus: the hud code is split between unity and indicator-appmenu
[23:58] <Mikeulus> trism: I see.