[00:00] <Artemis3> well there is not much else we can do, the most updated flash plugin
[00:00] <Artemis3> and the most recent nvidia driver
[00:00] <Artemis3> save from turning off hardware accel in flash
[00:02] <David-A> p01nt3r: (in my system the personal plugins folder is ~/.mozilla/plugins with an s, (if or when you would need it))
[00:02] <p01nt3r> ok thx
[00:02] <Artemis3> oops typo there, i think it is plugins
[00:02] <p01nt3r> ok
[00:03] <Artemis3> wasn't there an add on to do it for you? i never used it ;)
[00:03] <p01nt3r> have the .so file just in .mozilla/plugins now
[00:03] <Artemis3> whats the file name?
[00:03] <p01nt3r> libflashplayer.so
[00:03] <Artemis3> did you do locate ibflashplayer.so
[00:03] <Artemis3> er
[00:03] <p01nt3r> just reenabling the nvidia-thing
[00:03] <Artemis3> libflashplayer.so
[00:03] <p01nt3r> no
[00:04] <p01nt3r> find / -name "libflashplayer.so"
[00:04] <Artemis3> also remove the flashplugin-nonfree package (apt-get remove, synaptic or your favorite method)
[00:04] <p01nt3r> ok, sec.
[00:04] <Artemis3> well find works too
[00:04] <Artemis3> and is more current :)
[00:05] <p01nt3r> hehe
[00:05] <Artemis3> (catfish is a handy thing)
[00:05] <p01nt3r> never used it
[00:05] <Artemis3> its gui for find/locate or other engines such as tracker if you bother to install them
[00:05] <p01nt3r> *plugin-nonfree is gone
[00:06] <Artemis3> good, now make sure there is only 1 libflashplayer.so in your whole system
[00:06] <p01nt3r> getting nvidia-96 back with xorg.conf first?
[00:06] <Artemis3> yeah, i see why not
[00:06] <p01nt3r> ok, looking for it
[00:07] <p01nt3r> only 2 files, the 1 is from the unzipped package on my desk, so i guess it's ok to have it there?
[00:07] <Artemis3> you can try a blank xorg.conf (rename it) and run jockey, it should install it
[00:07] <p01nt3r> jockey?
[00:07] <p01nt3r> never used it
[00:07] <Artemis3> thats the restricted hardware thing true name
[00:07] <Artemis3> it runs in console too
[00:08] <p01nt3r> aah yes heard it
[00:08] <p01nt3r> kk
[00:08] <p01nt3r> xorg.conf whole blank?
[00:08] <Artemis3> if you run it, i believe it will install nvidia-96, and configure xorg.conf like a fresh install
[00:09] <p01nt3r> ok then i do so
[00:09] <Artemis3> just rename it to something else if you want to keep a backup
[00:09] <David-A> (the name of a firefox extension that alledgedly solves flash problems is "flash-aid", have not tried it, finish you current plan for now)
[00:09] <Artemis3> lol yes, but this is the manual method :)
[00:09] <p01nt3r> David-A, that was exaclty the tool i meant!
[00:09] <Artemis3> just keep a single flash in there, i have experience of system with multiple versions lurking... not nice, sometimes works, sometiems doesn't ;)
[00:10] <p01nt3r> ok let's try it the manual way - only the manual way is the REAL way xD
[00:10] <David-A> p01nt3r: thats the spirit!
[00:10] <p01nt3r> :-)
[00:10] <Artemis3> well flash-aid might actually do the very same but whatever
[00:11] <Artemis3> ie: download file, copy to user folder :P
[00:11] <p01nt3r> let's try the jockey-thing. did rename the xorg.conf(it already was renamed as i explained before)
[00:11] <Artemis3> yes you can have many files in there, no worries
[00:11] <p01nt3r> ok, wait
[00:11] <Artemis3> only xorg.conf matters
[00:11] <p01nt3r> i know xD
[00:11] <Artemis3> you could even delete it nowdays
[00:12] <Artemis3> but the nvidia driver makes one anyway
[00:12] <p01nt3r> sudo jockey-gtk ...
[00:12] <Artemis3> and you can put back your options later
[00:12] <p01nt3r> k k
[00:12] <Artemis3> or from nvidia-settings
[00:12] <p01nt3r> i do not have any xorg.conf file this time
[00:12] <Artemis3> if possible
[00:13] <p01nt3r> only backuped onces
[00:13] <Artemis3> ok let the jockey do its job
[00:13] <p01nt3r> running...
[00:14] <p01nt3r> 24 days l8ter ... xD
[00:15] <p01nt3r> is the newest  flash-version running with ff from 10.04?
[00:16] <Artemis3> should
[00:16] <Artemis3> but you can always add the firefox ppa if you want a more current ff
[00:16] <p01nt3r> k
[00:16] <p01nt3r> let's try the repos ff at first
[00:18] <p01nt3r> still running the jockey-thing....
[00:18] <p01nt3r> ok reboot
[00:18] <Artemis3> p3 eh? white the oldie
[00:18] <Artemis3> quite
[00:18] <p01nt3r> xD
[00:19] <p01nt3r> btw.: jockey made me a new xorg.conf ;-)
[00:19] <p01nt3r> brb
[00:19] <Artemis3> as expected
[00:19] <p01nt3r> y
[00:21] <p01nt3r> k, nvidia driver running again
[00:22] <p01nt3r> let's try ff and youtube ...
[00:24] <p01nt3r> no video on youtube
[00:24] <p01nt3r> damned
[00:25] <Artemis3> about:plugins ?
[00:28] <p01nt3r> like before
[00:28] <Artemis3> so it shows flash in there?
[00:28] <Artemis3> you have tried other flash pages and they work?
[00:29] <Artemis3> then youtube is showing a black or something rectangle instead of nothing?
[00:29] <p01nt3r> work not
[00:29] <Artemis3> in about:plugins it should list libflashplayer.so
[00:29] <p01nt3r>     Datei: libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[00:30] <p01nt3r> youtube showes nothing, even not any black rectangle
[00:31] <Artemis3> and this page shows the version running? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[00:31] <p01nt3r> the rectangle just if i hover with mouse on the video-previews
[00:31] <Artemis3> you dont have any other add on messing with youtube? and you are loading a flash video instead of html5 one? (just in case :))
[00:32] <p01nt3r> the site does not show the version running
[00:32] <David-A> p01nt3r: just to verify, no noscript or flashblock extension? (sorry to ask a silly question again)
[00:32] <Artemis3> your plugin is not working
[00:32] <Artemis3> actually thats not silly, check :)
[00:33] <p01nt3r> David-A, abp is still disabled at all
[00:33] <Artemis3> addblock should be no problem here
[00:33] <Artemis3> ad
[00:34] <Artemis3> hmm you really really sure the plugin shows in about:plugin?
[00:34] <Artemis3> about:plugins
[00:34] <David-A> p01nt3r: if you login as guest (or create an alternate profile for yourself) you would run ff with default settings, would you like to try that?
[00:34] <p01nt3r> why not
[00:34] <p01nt3r> but wait
[00:35] <p01nt3r> Artemis3, yes, it does. just checked...
[00:35] <Artemis3> yes, its possible to disable plugins within the ff preferences
[00:35] <Artemis3> try the alternate profile stuff
[00:37] <p01nt3r> yes, doing so
[00:37] <p01nt3r> brb
[00:50] <p01nt3r> it's working with the new profile!
[00:50] <p01nt3r> but with some strange behaviour
[00:51] <p01nt3r> ff showes me that i have to install some plugins to get flash videos working
[00:51] <p01nt3r> and if i try to do
[00:51] <p01nt3r> it tells me, the plugin is allready installed xD
[00:51] <p01nt3r> Artemis3, David-A
[00:51] <Artemis3> hmmm
[00:52] <Artemis3> i wonder if the file permissions and ownership is ok
[00:52] <Artemis3> libflashplugin.so should belong to your user and should have proper permissions
[00:55] <p01nt3r> -rw-r--r-- 1 dirk dirk 17406436 2012-05-11 07:40 libflashplayer.so
[00:56] <Artemis3> try adding x?
[00:56] <Artemis3> it is weird to list the plugin but then nothing can use it...
[00:56] <Artemis3> and restart the browser
[00:59] <David-A> p01nt3r: if you run ff as another user and removed all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user, then its right, that ff does not have flash
[01:00] <Artemis3> well, considering flash was installed in a user folder to begin with :)
[01:00] <David-A> p01nt3r: did you try another ff profile in same user, or logged in as another user?
[01:01] <p01nt3r> another user
[01:01] <Artemis3> of course
[01:01] <David-A> p01nt3r: did you remove all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user?
[01:01] <Artemis3> if you use another user, you don't have flash :)
[01:02] <p01nt3r> yes, i did
[01:02] <p01nt3r> i use another user, but i DO have flash ^^
[01:02] <David-A> p01nt3r: then, let /home/anotheruser/.mozilla/plugins also have a copy...
[01:02] <Artemis3> well you can copy the flash file to that user folder, and make sure it belongs to that user as well have proper permissions
[01:03] <p01nt3r> i didnt do, and for the other user flash works! but still not for the old user
[01:03] <Artemis3> well i mean ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:04] <Artemis3> aja, that means sometihng in your ff settings is blocking the plugin
[01:04] <p01nt3r> hmm
[01:04] <Artemis3> for your old user
[01:04] <Artemis3> you can always use another profile, or rename your current one and make a new
[01:05] <p01nt3r> guys, very much thx for your help, but i am a lot of tired and have to go to bed now. let's have a look to this later?
[01:05] <Artemis3> hhehe as you wish, i might not be here tho
[01:05] <Artemis3> good luck
[01:05] <p01nt3r> ill try that profile thing tomorrow - THX!
[01:05] <David-A> p01nt3r: i'm confusd, did flash work with another user or not?
[01:05] <Artemis3> yes it did work
[01:06] <David-A> okay, goodnight, i'm off soon too
[01:06] <Artemis3> so the answer is in the old user profile settings
[01:06] <p01nt3r> (and i don't understand why...)
[01:06] <David-A> p01nt3r: its something with the ff settings
[01:06] <p01nt3r> have to go to sleep - THX THX THX so far!
[01:06] <David-A> bye
[01:06] <Artemis3> c ya
[01:07] <p01nt3r> ;-) bb
[01:35] <aeternum_solus> hi. why is it that when using apt-get upgrade, it won't download and install the kernel, but it does so with the gui?
[01:37] <Artemis3> you might want dist-upgrade for that, and try to have the meta package "linux-image" installed ^^
[01:37] <aeternum_solus> ahh. thanks. I'll give that a go next time it wants to install the kernel
[01:38] <Artemis3> synaptic is less obvious when using the dist-upgrade method
[01:39] <David-A> aeternum_solus: did you use the gui (update manager) first and apt-get upgrade after, then the kernel was already the latest.
[01:39] <aeternum_solus> anecdotally, how successful is dist-upgrade? I hear it regularly has problems
[01:39] <aeternum_solus> nah. I usually try to apt-get upgrade first, then when it complains that it won't install the kernel, I go to the upgrade manager
[01:40] <aeternum_solus> update manager*
[01:40] <David-A> aeternum_solus: did you try apt-get update before apt-get upgrade (i think it is needed)
[01:41] <aeternum_solus> no, I didn't do that. I'll try that next time it notifies me there are updates
[01:41] <aeternum_solus> also, it notifies me a LOT that there are updates. usually in the vicinity of 30 a day!
[01:42] <aeternum_solus> I'm on 11.1 by the way
[01:44] <David-A> aeternum_solus: 11.10 i presume? then your on your own :) do you keep an eye on the release plan, to see when they reach different level of freezing?
[01:45] <aeternum_solus> I used to, but not anymore. maybe I'll just stick 12.04 on
[01:45] <David-A> aeternum_solus: sorry, it's 2012 now, i forgot... :)
[01:46] <aeternum_solus> eh?
[01:46] <aeternum_solus> you thought it was 2013?
[01:47] <David-A> aeternum_solus: (yea, 30 a day sounds alot for 11.10 then)
[01:48] <aeternum_solus> interesting, dist-upgrade says no new packages to install
[01:49] <David-A> aeternum_solus: if you updated 10 minutes ago, even if its 30 a day, have some patience :)
[01:50] <aeternum_solus> so there's no difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? if upgrade does the same as dist-upgrade, then I'm not sure I see the difference?
[01:52] <David-A> aeternum_solus: read the man page (man apt-get). (dubious help: I just read it but I can't say I understand the difference)
[01:53] <aeternum_solus> I did read it, but I still don't see the difference haha :(
[01:53] <David-A> aeternum_solus: it says its more intelligent. thats sometimes good, sometimes bad
[01:54] <David-A> (still dubious, help-wise)
[01:56] <aeternum_solus> I think I'll just download an iso and fresh install
[02:03] <David-A> aeternum_solus: "fresh install"? why? it seems to work as it should? or?
[02:04] <David-A> the man page will be the same :)
[02:04] <aeternum_solus> haha
[02:04] <aeternum_solus> nah, it's a bit quirky.. but I thik that's might be hardware failure actually
[02:05] <David-A> ah, other things
[02:05] <aeternum_solus> yep
[02:06] <aeternum_solus> hey. one more thing.. in /etc/resolv.conf, it has nameserver 127.0.0.1 .... I don't run a dns server on this machine. is that just network manager being network manager?
[02:10] <aeternum_solus> resolvconf, actually.
[02:16] <David-A> fwiw mine has two lines "nameserver" and ip-address somewhere at my isp, and "# Generated by NetworkManager" and was created around the time of my last reboot.
[02:17] <aeternum_solus> hmm. mine says generated by resolvconf. dunno. I guess one more of those quirks ubuntu has hehe
[02:26] <David-A> I have a recollection that one can choose if networkmanager or something else gonna rule. it is controllable by a setting in a file in /etc somewhere or one can install/uninstall the party that wants to rule but you dont want it to. maybe a little google?
[02:28] <aeternum_solus> I'm not overly concerned, because it does resolve to my dns server, but I was just curious why it uses loopback there
[02:47] <ouyes> office in xubuntu 12.04, the middle button(scroll) of the mouse does not  work.
[02:48] <ouyes> you can't use the  middle key of the mouse to scroll the text of the office document
[03:23] <David-A> ouyes: guess you mean click middle button and jox to scroll as opposed to scroll wheel roll. go to tools>options>view and set mouse>middle button to "automatic scrollintg". (default off in unix/linux versions of firefox and openoffice since we like middle button to paste)
[03:27] <ouyes> David-A, there is no options in my tools of office, are you in xubuntu 12.04?
[03:27] <David-A> no, 10.04 openoffice ver 3.2
[03:28] <David-A> is there tools>preferences or edit>options ?
[03:29] <ouyes> David-A, thanks for you help , actually I use the abiword, and I think I should install the openoffice
[03:30] <agentgasmask> ouyes: be aware that you can only install libreoffice from the repos. Open office can be downloaded from their website.
[03:31] <David-A> ouyes: go for libreoffice then, probably better supported in 12.04
[03:31] <ouyes> agentgasmask, David-A it is installing, thanks
[03:32] <agentgasmask> ouyes: oops, thanks
[03:39] <ouyes> it is really large in size , over 180MiB
[03:51] <David-A> ouyes: (with doc and java my ooo is 278 MiB)
[03:52] <ouyes> it is done, it is beautiful, I like it liberoffice
[03:53] <David-A> ouyes: (includes languages for english and my native language, add if you have installed more than 2 languages)
[05:03] <asterismo> hi guys
[05:03] <asterismo> i have a question
[05:04] <asterismo> i'm trying to use PCManFM as default file manager in xubuntu
[05:04] <asterismo> but directory menu applet in xfce-panel does not launch PCmanFM
[05:04] <asterismo> how can i fix this?
[05:05] <agentgasmask> asterismo: perhaps checkout /etc/alternitives? just a guess.
[05:05] <asterismo> cat /etc/alternitives ??
[05:06] <asterismo> agentgasmask, > no such file or directory
[05:06] <agentgasmask> asterismo: you'll have to google it. But basicly it handles what programs are default. also, check my spelling... hahaha
[05:06] <asterismo> oh!
[05:06] <asterismo> yeah
[05:07] <asterismo> agentgasmask,
[05:07] <asterismo> i could get in it
[05:07] <asterismo> thanks
[05:07] <asterismo> any idea what file i have to modify?
[05:08] <agentgasmask> asterismo: I don't think you modify the files directly. there are some commandline utilities to hadle that.
[05:09] <agentgasmask> asterismo: update-alternatives, perhaps. Might need to be run as root
[05:09] <asterismo> agentgasmask, if i have one instance of pcmanfm open, then hitting the directory menu opens a new tab
[05:09] <asterismo> but if i have no pcmanfm instance, it do not open anything
[05:10] <agentgasmask> Hmmm... sorry can't help you there. Anyone else able to help the fine gentleman?
[06:07] <Josh483> Can someone help me with my wifi
[06:07] <sambagirl> hi
[06:07] <Josh483> ;p;
[06:07] <Josh483> hey
[06:07] <sambagirl> what version :D
[06:07] <sambagirl> hah
[06:07] <Josh483> the newest i think lol
[06:07] <sambagirl> 64 or 32
[06:07] <Josh483> 64
[06:08] <sambagirl> any recent updating done?
[06:08] <sambagirl> added any new applications?
[06:08] <Josh483> i tryed but it said evweythings up to date
[06:08] <sambagirl> when  was the last time it worked flawlessly?
[06:08] <Josh483> idk i just downloaded it
[06:08] <Josh483> its been kinda buggy but mostly just the wifi
[06:08] <sambagirl> oh you just installed it for the first time?
[06:08] <Josh483> yea
[06:08] <sambagirl> has it ever worked?
[06:09] <Josh483> kinda
[06:09] <sambagirl> definately maybe?
[06:09] <Josh483> but i have to connect it to ethernet if i want to log in if i shut it down
[06:09] <Josh483> cause the wifi never auto connects
[06:09] <Josh483> and now it doesnt work at all
[06:09] <sambagirl> go to  a shell and type lspci -v and see what kind of wireless card it is. is it broadcom?
[06:10] <sambagirl> do you have a switch?
[06:10] <Josh483> shell?
[06:10] <Josh483> switch?
[06:10] <sambagirl> switch for off/on wireless
[06:10] <Josh483> you mean terminal?
[06:10] <Josh483> and no i dont think so
[06:10] <sambagirl> is it laptop?
[06:10] <Josh483> yes
[06:10] <sambagirl> mfg?
[06:10] <Josh483> its an intel wifi card
[06:10] <Josh483> mfg?
[06:10] <sambagirl> manufacturer?
[06:11] <Josh483> dell
[06:11] <sambagirl> hp compaq dell
[06:11] <Josh483> dell inspiron 6000
[06:11] <sambagirl> how long have you had it?
[06:11] <Josh483> 10 years lo
[06:11] <Josh483> lol
[06:11] <sambagirl> oh ok
[06:11] <sambagirl> jsut a sec
[06:12] <sambagirl> there is a wifi button
[06:12] <sambagirl> no?
[06:12] <Josh483> its an intel prowireless 2200 bg (calexico2)
[06:12] <Josh483> and no i liiked
[06:12] <Josh483> looked'
[06:12] <sambagirl> hold on
[06:13] <sambagirl> it came with it?
[06:13] <Josh483> ye
[06:13] <Josh483> i never got a different card
[06:13] <sambagirl> ok it was default card yes?
[06:13] <Josh483> yea
[06:13] <Josh483> well i updated the driver when i still had windows
[06:13] <Josh483> idk if that means anything
[06:14] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608
[06:14] <Josh483> whats thaty
[06:14] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010303
[06:14] <sambagirl> answers
[06:14] <sambagirl> solutions
[06:15] <Josh483> oh
[06:15] <Josh483> it says no for both blocked
[06:16] <sambagirl> you type lspci -nn or lspci -v an it says intel?
[06:17] <Josh483> yea
[06:17] <Josh483> i dont get the answer thing though
[06:18] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608 <--- this looks like the solution to me.
[06:18] <sambagirl> well the reason i asked was so you could verify it was taht card but if your positive that link looks like the solutoin to me.
[06:18] <Josh483> how do i type this symbol? "|"
[06:18] <sambagirl> but there are smarter people then me here.
[06:19] <sambagirl> above the \ with shift key
[06:19] <sambagirl> |
[06:19] <Josh483> ohhh
[06:19] <Josh483> thanks lol
[06:19] <sambagirl> your welcome
[06:20] <Josh483> ok so
[06:20] <Josh483> i typed that thing in the terminal
[06:20] <sambagirl> your sure there was no update recently? cause on this other laptop i have debian and it just had an update and now wifi doesnt work on it...so it has to be the update. kinda like the goofy stuff with windows updates.
[06:21] <sambagirl> ok well select all copy it and paste to pastebin.com and submit and get the url and post it in the channel
[06:21] <Josh483> huh?
[06:21] <sambagirl> ok you just did a brand new install of xubuntu correct?
[06:21] <Josh483> yea
[06:22] <Josh483> i cant copy and past cause im not on it\
[06:22] <Josh483> its next to me
[06:22] <sambagirl> and wifi doesnt work from the git go correct?
[06:22] <sambagirl> ok
[06:22] <sambagirl> well plug a ethernet cable and get online with it
[06:22] <Josh483> ill try
[06:22] <Josh483> eithernet doesnt work
[06:23] <Josh483> idk why
[06:23] <sambagirl> it doesnt?
[06:23] <Josh483> wait ill try again
[06:23] <sambagirl> have you ever used linux/unix before?
[06:23] <Josh483> kinda
[06:24] <sambagirl> here is an idea to figure stuff out quickly
[06:24] <sambagirl> do this download ubntu 10.10 and burn it and boot with it and see what happens to see if that works first ok?
[06:24] <Josh483> yea ethernet isnt working now
[06:24] <Josh483> what do you mean?
[06:25] <Josh483> you mean burn it to a disk and try to run it on my laptop?
[06:25] <sambagirl> not try, boot it
[06:25] <sambagirl> with a cd live cd mode
[06:25] <Josh483> i cant my disc drive doesnt work for swome reason
[06:25] <sambagirl> see if you have functionality
[06:25] <sambagirl> ok
[06:25] <sambagirl> this is a joke i think
[06:25] <Josh483> i installed xubuntu with a usb drive
[06:25] <Josh483> im not joking
[06:26] <sambagirl> ok well burn 10.10 to the usb drive then
[06:26] <sambagirl> boot with that and see what you get
[06:26] <Josh483> i used some compressed thing cause it only has 500 mb of space
[06:26] <Josh483> and had it connected thru ethernet and downloaded the os thru the servers
[06:26] <sambagirl> you mean netinstall?
[06:26] <Josh483> ye
[06:26] <Josh483> yea
[06:27] <Josh483> could that be why the wifi isnt working
[06:27] <Josh483> did i do something wrong
[06:27] <sambagirl> ok well do a netinstall and install 10.10. i mean you said you just installed today or tonight so your not losing anything and your learning something about your computer and about yourself
[06:27] <sambagirl> no shouldnt be
[06:27] <sambagirl> you said there is no buton?
[06:27] <sambagirl> button?
[06:28] <Josh483> no but hold on im gunna try to go on ethernet again\
[06:28] <Josh483> im restarting my laptop
[06:29] <Josh483> i cant do another os load though
[06:29] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2
[06:29] <sambagirl> why not?
[06:29] <Josh483> cause i used my laptop to download and do everything
[06:29] <Josh483> and iim on my phone now\
[06:29] <sambagirl> i dont understand?
[06:29] <sambagirl> ohh for chat?
[06:29] <Josh483> like its the only computer i have
[06:29] <Josh483> yea
[06:30] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates
[06:30] <sambagirl> once it comes up i mean.
[06:30] <Josh483> one sec my laptops turning on
[06:30] <sambagirl> k
[06:31] <Josh483> it always says waiting for network config when i turn it on
[06:31] <Josh483> under the xubuntu logo
[06:31] <Josh483> and it never connects and starts without network config
[06:31] <sambagirl> if you hold fn key down and then f2 does the light come on?
[06:31] <Josh483> idk what that is
[06:31] <Josh483> i gotta wait its not on yet
[06:32] <sambagirl> cant someone in here offer a suggestion?
[06:32] <sambagirl> ok
[06:32] <Josh483> i dont think there here
[06:32] <Josh483> ;p;
[06:32] <Josh483> lol
[06:32] <Josh483> ok its on now
[06:33] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates
[06:33] <Josh483> it deoesnt
[06:33] <Josh483> it says networking dissabled
[06:33] <sambagirl> enable it
[06:33] <Josh483> it wont let me click it
[06:33] <Josh483> its faded out
[06:33] <sambagirl> you right click on the network icon on the upper panel on your right?
[06:33] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <Josh483> but its faded out and doesnt let me click it
[06:34] <Josh483> just edit connections is
[06:34] <sambagirl> well hold on...
[06:34] <sambagirl> you booted with usb right?
[06:34] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <sambagirl> you did netinstall right?
[06:34] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <sambagirl> well why dont you go thru the process again? cause obviously it worked for you install it that way correct?
[06:35] <Josh483> i tryed that already though and gave up
[06:35] <Josh483> it still happens
[06:35] <sambagirl> well hold on. it worked before so it has to work again.
[06:35] <Josh483> ok
[06:36] <sambagirl> if your booting with the usb drive and you did a netinstall it didnt break your hw.
[06:36] <Josh483> hardware?
[06:36] <sambagirl> r u sure you paid your access bill? :D
[06:37] <Josh483> access bill? lol
[06:37] <sambagirl> seriously you have a smart phone correct?
[06:37] <Josh483> yes why?
[06:38] <sambagirl> are you using wifi or Gx on it?
[06:38] <Josh483> wifi but i have 4g and lte
[06:38] <Josh483> idk what gx is
[06:38] <sambagirl> ok so you know your wifi works. i could have typed Gn (n=3-4)
[06:39] <Josh483> yea i know my wifi password
[06:39] <sambagirl> 4g 3g mouse...mickey mouse :)
[06:39] <sambagirl> ok ok
[06:39] <sambagirl> do this reboot with usb and do another netinstall
[06:39] <sambagirl> it has to work
[06:39] <Josh483> i dont have the usb anymore --__-
[06:39] <sambagirl> ok
[06:39] <sambagirl> i see
[06:40] <Josh483> is there anothe way without having to do another netinstall
[06:40] <Josh483> im going to kill myself if i have to go through that again
[06:40] <Josh483> lol
[06:40] <sambagirl> the reason i asked you to do it is to verify your hw is working
[06:40] <Josh483> im pretty sure my hw is fine
[06:41] <Josh483> i think somethings wrong with the settings or something
[06:41] <Josh483> or maybe it doesnt detect my wifi card idk
[06:41] <sambagirl> forget the wifi you said you cannot enable ethernet
[06:41] <Josh483> well it  worked before
[06:41] <sambagirl> you said you cant enable networking
[06:41] <sambagirl> what did you do?
[06:42] <sambagirl> how did you break it?
[06:42] <Josh483> i might have changed some stuff by accident idk
[06:42] <Josh483> cause i was googling how to fix it
[06:42] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:42] <Josh483> and some people said to type stuff into the terminal and idk if  i did something
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:43] <Josh483> is there a way to like reset it
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:43] <Josh483> i gave it to my friend
[06:43] <Josh483> why
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:44] <sambagirl> well you entered commands in a shell correct?
[06:44] <sambagirl> some people told you to do this do that...correct, in a shell correct?
[06:44] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:44] <Josh483> i entered them in the termna;
[06:44] <Josh483> terminal
[06:44] <Josh483> and my friend has it
[06:44] <sambagirl> ok well go to the term again
[06:44] <Josh483> ok
[06:44] <Josh483> im on it
[06:45] <sambagirl> press the up arrow and look at the commands you entered
[06:45] <sambagirl> what did you enter?
[06:45] <Josh483> ok give me a min
[06:45] <Josh483> ill type them out
[06:45] <sambagirl> where did your friend take your usb stick?
[06:46] <sambagirl> haha
[06:46] <Josh483> sudo apt -get - -reinstall install bcmw1-kernel-source
[06:46] <Josh483> 1spci -nn | grep 0280
[06:47] <Josh483> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:47] <Josh483> 1spci
[06:47] <Josh483> sudo 1shw -C network
[06:47] <sambagirl> it works when you do a netinstall a
[06:47] <Josh483> huh?
[06:48] <sambagirl> it works when you do a netinstall a
[06:48] <Josh483> what works
[06:49] <TheSheep> a font that doesn't let you tell the difference between 1 and l is really bad for the console
[06:49] <sambagirl> i would go find my friend and get my usb stick back and reinstall a netinstall
[06:49] <Josh483> its not on the usb anymore i deleted it
[06:49] <Josh483> i dont even remember what i used
[06:49] <sambagirl> you dont have your own usb stick?
[06:50] <Josh483> i gave it to him
[06:50] <sambagirl> for ever?
[06:50] <Josh483> yea i said he can keep it
[06:50] <Josh483> why do i need to do a net install though
[06:51] <sambagirl> because you said you dont have a cdrom working and you said you typed in commands someone told you to do and you dont know what or why and your sytem isnt functioning properly and you just installed it tonight and you have nothing on it that is important so you can do it from scratch again that is why
[06:52] <Josh483> ugh
[06:52] <sambagirl> well maybe one of the super duper guru wizards in here can help you if they are willing to help i mean.
[06:53] <sambagirl> personally if it were me, i wouldnt hesitate to install it again.
[06:53] <Josh483> is anyone else here
[06:53] <Josh483> i just really dont want to reinstall it
[06:53] <sambagirl> well then you really dont want to have a stable system from the git go in my opinion.
[06:54] <Josh483> -_-
[06:54] <sambagirl> you have to be honest with yourself
[06:54] <sambagirl> i  wouldnt even mess about i would do a fresh install period.
[06:55] <sambagirl> i mean you jsut did it tongith and its not working they way you want, so why dont you do a fresh install?
[06:55] <sambagirl> i don't understand?
[06:55] <Josh483> well not tonight a few days ago but yea
[06:56] <Josh483> it was just so annoying and took sooooooooo long
[06:56] <Josh483> like 2 hours
[06:56] <sambagirl> and why you gave your friend your usb stick forever and you now don't have one and don't haev a functioning optical drive, i don't follow at all?
[06:56] <sambagirl> well you dont have to sit there and baby sit it you know.
[06:56] <sambagirl> 2 hours?
[06:56] <Josh483> yea
[06:56] <sambagirl> what are you on dialu?
[06:56] <Josh483> yea
[06:56] <sambagirl> netzero?
[06:56] <Josh483> netzerp
[06:56] <Josh483> netzero'
[06:57] <Josh483> its so slow
[06:57] <sambagirl> ok
[06:57] <sambagirl> what is it midnight there?
[06:57] <Josh483> thats why i really really need aqn alternative to another install
[06:58] <Josh483> yea almost midnight
[06:58] <Josh483> well for me its like 3 a,
[06:58] <Josh483> am
[06:58] <Josh483> but iam in another timezone now
[06:58] <sambagirl> i dont follow? it's either midnight or 3am?
[06:58] <Josh483> so its 12 am here
[06:58] <Josh483> i just got here today im still on my time
[06:59] <Josh483> but yea here its 12
[06:59] <sambagirl> got where?
[06:59] <Josh483> california
[06:59] <Josh483> lol
[06:59] <sambagirl> but oregon and california are in the same time zone?
[06:59] <Josh483> im from newyork
[06:59] <sambagirl> ohh
[06:59] <Josh483> lol
[07:00] <Josh483> where did you get oregon from?
[07:00] <sambagirl> nevermind
[07:00] <Josh483> lol
[07:00] <sambagirl> why dont you just go to one of those cali cafes and have a tofu latte and sit with your legs crossed and hum to your laptop and maybe instant karma will have it floating back online?
[07:01] <Josh483> rofl
[07:01] <Josh483> i wish it was that easy
[07:01] <sambagirl> haha
[07:02] <sambagirl> jsust a sec
[07:02] <Josh483> cant i reset it to its original settings and make a new account?
[07:02] <Josh483> and see if it worksw
[07:02] <Josh483> ok
[07:03] <sambagirl> type this
[07:03] <sambagirl> sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[07:03] <Josh483> ok
[07:03] <sambagirl> sudo ip link set dev eth0 down
[07:04] <sambagirl> sudo dhclient eth0
[07:04] <Josh483> i typed the first one in
[07:04] <Josh483> and it asked me for my pass and i typed it in
[07:04] <sambagirl> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:04] <Josh483> and then it said command not foun
[07:04] <sambagirl> try this sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:05] <sambagirl> your using your fingers not your toes correct?
[07:05] <Josh483> yea
[07:05] <Josh483> i typed it in
[07:05] <Josh483> it sayd cnnot find devices and failed to bring up eth1
[07:06] <sambagirl> eth0
[07:06] <Josh483> ?
[07:07] <sambagirl> look type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:07] <Josh483> same thing happened again
[07:07] <Josh483> what if i  restore gnome-specific settings run following commands in terminal
[07:08] <sambagirl> ok
[07:08] <Josh483> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[07:08] <Josh483> would that work
[07:08] <sambagirl> did you install something ?
[07:08] <sambagirl> are you a student or something?
[07:08] <Josh483> what do u mean
[07:08] <Josh483> no why
[07:09] <sambagirl> are you a business man?
[07:09] <Josh483> no im a regular person why
[07:11] <Josh483> ?
[07:11] <sambagirl> i forgot you dont have internet. it's odd you cant access your network. someone in here could probably have you up and running in 2 minutes but nobody is interested in your dilema i suppose.
[07:12] <Josh483> Sigh
[07:13] <sambagirl> can you edit your configuration with righclick over network icon?
[07:13] <Josh483> you mean edit connections?
[07:14] <sambagirl> yes
[07:14] <Josh483> yes
[07:14] <sambagirl> choose that option
[07:14] <Josh483> i fif
[07:14] <Josh483> did
[07:14] <sambagirl> do you have auto ethernet and auto eth0?
[07:14] <sambagirl> under wired?
[07:15] <Josh483> itdoesnt say anything
[07:15] <Josh483> everythings blank
[07:15] <sambagirl> ok select add
[07:16] <Josh483> ok
[07:16] <Josh483> what after
[07:16] <sambagirl> give it a name in the appropriate field,
[07:16] <sambagirl> check the box for connect auto
[07:16] <Josh483> it wont let me
[07:16] <Josh483> everythings faded out
[07:16] <Josh483> and locked
[07:17] <sambagirl> maybe pat_ can help you
[07:17] <Josh483> pat?
[07:17] <sambagirl> i guess not :D
[07:17] <Josh483> D:
[07:18] <Josh483> can you do like  a reset ?
[07:19] <sambagirl> i dont know how, it's not like you have a restore point you can go back to as far as i know just a mion
[07:19] <sambagirl> min
[07:19] <Josh483> ok
[07:21] <sambagirl> you installed something you had to have.
[07:22] <Josh483> what??
[07:24] <sambagirl> opps was in the wrong channel
[07:24] <sambagirl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/137245/xubuntu-12-04-network-manager-menu-is-displayed-partially
[07:25] <sambagirl> read that
[07:26] <sambagirl> have you powered down the laptop?
[07:26] <Josh483> mine doesnt look like that when i clikc it nothing comes dow
[07:26] <Josh483> down
[07:27] <Josh483> and its on why?
[07:27] <sambagirl> you can do a discharge on it to kill any static elec on the system board and poewr it backup. you have to remove power cord and battery for a discharge, you press power button up down 10 times and then give it a power source.
[07:27] <Josh483> should i do that?
[07:27] <sambagirl> well i dont know what you actually did. you said there is nothing on it of any value you said you just installed it and therefore i would reinstall they os when you have the tools to do so.
[07:28] <sambagirl> i'm to beat rigfht now josh
[07:29] <sambagirl> i'm sorry i could not help you. to bad nobody else will even try.
[07:29] <sambagirl> niight and good luck.
[07:29] <Josh483> its fine atleast you tried to help
[07:29] <Josh483> night
[07:47] <Josh88484> Hey can someone help me
[07:47] <aeternum_solus> yes, I imagine many can
[07:48] <Josh88484> Ok well my networking wont start anymore
[07:48] <aeternum_solus> error?
[07:48] <Josh88484> and i tryed some stuffn in the terminal
[07:48] <Josh88484> it said tht
[07:48] <Josh88484> the script im attempting to invoke has been converted to an upstart job?
[07:48] <Josh88484> is that why its not workin
[07:48] <Josh88484> g
[07:49] <aeternum_solus> how are you invoking it?
[07:49] <aeternum_solus> /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[07:49] <Josh88484> yea
[07:50] <Josh88484> it just wont start idk why
[07:50] <Josh88484> im locked out
[07:50] <aeternum_solus> hmm. not sure. I'm not a newb, but I'm not exactly a linux guru either
[07:51] <Josh88484> oh :l
[07:51] <aeternum_solus> lots of people here are though :)
[07:51] <Sysi> Josh88484: what kind of network setup do you have?
[07:51] <Josh88484> do you mean my wifi card?
[07:51] <Sysi> xubuntu by default uses networkmanager
[07:51] <Josh88484> yea network manager wont start
[07:51] <Josh88484> the icon dissapeared
[07:52] <Sysi> try pressing Alt F2 and running nm-applet
[07:52] <Josh88484> and when its there it wont let e enable it
[07:52] <Josh88484> i tryed that already but ill do it again i guess
[07:52] <Sysi> you need to have notification area in your panel and maybe indicator-applet too
[07:52] <Josh88484> i think that got dissabled tpp
[07:52] <Josh88484> too'
[07:53] <Sysi> add them to panel again, they're needed to show that icon
[07:53] <Sysi> "sudo service networkmanager restart" to restart networkmanager
[07:54] <Josh88484> notifications is there but its faded out and i cant select it
[07:54] <Josh88484> and network managers not there at all
[07:54] <Sysi> then you probably have notification area in panel already
[07:54] <Sysi> nm-applet goes to notification area when it runs
[07:54] <Sysi> what xubuntu version btw?
[07:54] <Josh88484> i tryed to restart network mannager
[07:55] <Josh88484> it said unrecognized service
[07:55] <Josh88484> 12.04
[07:56] <Sysi> clean install or updated?
[07:56] <Josh88484> clean install
[07:56] <Sysi> updated from previous release that is, you should install updates if you haven't yet
[07:56] <Josh88484> what
[07:56] <Josh88484> ?
[07:57] <Sysi> is your system up-to-date, have you installed updates?
[07:57] <Josh88484> i did a clean install so it should be
[07:58] <Josh88484> ?
[07:58] <Josh88484> plus i cant do anything it cant connect to t he internet cause network managers not working
[07:58] <Sysi> no, install disks don't contain newest software, you need to install updates
[07:58] <Josh88484> i did a netinsta;;
[07:59] <Josh88484> netinstall
[07:59] <Sysi> does anything happen when you start nm-applet?
[07:59] <Josh88484> i tryed nm-applet but nothing happens?
[08:00] <Josh88484> it said it failed to regester as an agent
[08:00] <Josh88484> the name networkmanager was not provided by any service files
[08:01] <Sysi> try to run nm-applet in terminal
[08:01] <Josh88484> i did both
[08:01] <Sysi> any errors?
[08:01] <Josh88484> just in terminal
[08:01] <Josh88484> what i just wrote was whjat it said
[08:01] <Josh88484> nothing happens without terminal though
[08:02] <Sysi> you only told error about networkmanager, whick is because it's apparently "service network-manager start"
[08:03] <Josh88484> ?
[08:03] <Sysi> run that in terminal, then run nm-applet in terminal
[08:03] <Josh88484> ok
[08:04] <Josh88484> is there a space between service and network-manager
[08:04] <Sysi> yup
[08:04] <Josh88484> kk
[08:04] <Josh88484> ok i did it
[08:05] <Josh88484> same thing came up
[08:05] <Sysi> are you on wired connection?
[08:05] <Josh88484> Started applet secret agent because GNOME shell dissapeared?
[08:05] <Josh88484> im on my phone
[08:06] <Josh88484> well tablet
[08:06] <Josh88484> but i use it as my phone too
[08:06] <Sysi> I mean your computer, how is it connected to the internet
[08:07] <Josh88484> Well it would be connected with wifi but its not working
[08:09] <Josh88484> ?
[08:16] <Josh88484> Hello?
[09:00] <Josh9449> Can someone help me?
[09:04] <aquix> can you connect using a ethernet cable?
[09:07] <baizon> what is the question? :)
[09:08] <aquix> network troubles..
[09:08] <hystryfe> hey does anyone have any advice for cleaning up the boot process for xubuntu? specifically, i'm wondering about some scripts that i see in /etc/init.d and /etc for things i have uninstalled
[09:09] <baizon> hystryfe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[09:09] <baizon> that should help
[09:10] <hystryfe> thanks that's exactly what i was looking for but for some reason google neglected to show me ;D
[09:11] <baizon> :)
[09:20] <livingdaylight> hi
[09:20] <baizon> hi hi
[09:20] <livingdaylight> hi baizon
[09:20] <baizon> im just a bot... your question please :)
[09:21] <livingdaylight> baizon, you're enjoying Ubuntu Unity but you're in xubuntu? :)
[09:21] <baizon> of course, im supporting as much as i can
[09:21] <livingdaylight> I have an AWN dock question actually :s
[09:21] <livingdaylight> I added a couple applets and just don't see how to remove them
[09:22] <baizon> livingdaylight: just pick it up and move from the awn dock
[09:22] <livingdaylight> preferences shows a delte tab but it doesn't activate whatever I do, including selecting the applet I wish to remove, which seems obvious.
[09:22] <livingdaylight> tried that too
[09:23] <livingdaylight> I pick it up and move to desktop and nothing
[09:23] <baizon> Drag the active applet back to the list of available applets.
[09:23] <livingdaylight> in the preferences dialog?
[09:24] <livingdaylight> gotcha
[09:24] <livingdaylight> thank you baizon
[09:24] <baizon> np
[09:25] <livingdaylight> easy, and maybe not counter-intuitive, but it didn't occur to me :)
[09:25] <livingdaylight> the 'delete' tab which does nothing is misleading :)
[09:25] <baizon> hehe
[09:26] <livingdaylight> ok, thanks again
[09:26] <baizon> your welcome
[09:26] <livingdaylight> bye for now
[09:26] <baizon> see you
[09:26] <livingdaylight> time to go to the farmers market and get a bit of sun while i'm at it
[10:52] <gmagno> hello. I'm using the super key to open applications menu ("start" menu) but I'm also using super+'e' to open thunar. Everytime I open thunar the applications menu also pops up because  super key was pressed  as wel. Is there any trick to make this not happen?
[10:53] <knome> well, you can remove the other shortcut of course
[10:54] <baizon> indeed
[10:54] <baizon> im using alt+F1 for the menu
[10:54] <gmagno> knome, but I use both shortcuts...
[10:55] <knome> gmagno, there's no way to make the computer guess which one you want
[10:55] <gmagno> I thout the gui or the os, would understand that Super != Super+'e'
[10:55] <knome> yes, but super+e has super too.
[10:55] <knome> and you are most probaby pressing it first
[10:56] <knome> so the system expects you to want to open app menu.
[10:56] <knome> set the app menu to super+alt or something.
[10:57] <gmagno> interesting... it is not that linear knome
[10:57] <gmagno> i just tried something interesting
[10:57] <gmagno> if you press super + 'e' and wait a bit longer
[10:58] <gmagno> apps menu (the super shortcut) won't pop up
[10:58] <knome> ok. then that.
[10:58] <gmagno> in fact, I have to realease first 'e' and then Super
[10:59] <gmagno> but it does not work all the time...
[10:59] <gmagno> nevermind...
[10:59] <gmagno> i'll survive
[10:59] <knome> my advice is not to use overlapping shortcut keys
[10:59] <gmagno> :-/
[11:00] <gmagno> right...
[11:00] <gmagno> thanks anyway
[11:00] <knome> np
[12:13] <jb999> Hello evryone
[12:15] <jb999> i would need help about ctrl+1, ctrl+2, ..., ctrl+0 hotkey beug
[12:17] <The_Cog> jb999: What's the bug?
[12:18] <jb999> thanks for your help Cog
[12:19] <jb999> I use a french version of Xubuntu
[12:19] <jb999> and i can't use the hotkeys : ctrl+1, ctrl+2, ..., ctrl+0 on LibreOffice
[12:21] <Sysi> disable them for workspace switching, in window manager settings
[12:21] <jb999> the computeur think i use ctrl+&, ctrl+é, ... (1234567890 are the french Shift of &é"'(-è_çà )
[12:22] <jb999> that's not realy a bug, but i've not found a solution for this problem
[12:26] <jb999> Sysi
[12:27] <Sysi> you should at least see if those keys are reserved and try removing them in settings if that's the case
[12:28] <jb999> this hotkey arn't used by workspace switching, furthermore when i activate my numlock (Fn+Num LK) i can use  this hotkeys
[12:31] <jb999> i use a netbook, so the numeric keypad is not easy to use (fn + inser to activate, same keypad to deasable)
[12:32] <jb999> but i need the key pad ctrl+1, +2, ..., +0 on LibreOffice
[12:33] <jb999> (the hotkey)
[12:33] <The_Cog> On my LibreOffice, Ctrl+1, Ctrl+2, Ctrl+3 change the paragraph to Heading-1, Heading-2, Heading-3. Is this what doesn't work in your setup?
[12:34] <jb999> no becaus my computer thinks i want the hotkey ctrl+& when i want ctrl+1, ctrl+é when i want ctrl+2, etc...
[12:37] <jb999> i've also tried to push the key to lock Caps, it change nothing
[13:18] <Padfoot30> Hi all! I installed the ubuntu-desktop package on top of Xubuntu 12.04 using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends"
[13:18] <Padfoot30> then I encountered probs
[13:19] <holstein> Padfoot30: where did you read to do that?
[13:19] <Padfoot30> I booted into Unity 2D but there was no session menu, dash home didn't work, etc
[13:19] <Padfoot30> A blog: mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com
[13:20] <holstein> can you still see/use the xubuntu session? any XFCE session?
[13:20] <Padfoot30> (the blogger didn't mention the argument in the command)
[13:20] <holstein> Padfoot30: where did you get the argument?
[13:21] <Padfoot30> Yeah, Xfce works fine.
[13:21] <knome> that *should* work, but there's no guarantee nothing will break
[13:21] <Padfoot30> Even KDE works fine
[13:21] <Padfoot30> The argument, well, I read somewhere else.
[13:22] <holstein> i have always had issues here and there with the meta-packages and using them at the same time... i install lxde instead of lubuntu-desktop for example
[13:22] <holstein> but, yeah.. it *should* be find to install ubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <holstein> i would probably try reinstalling without that argument, or just purge it and run a live CD to look at unity
[13:23] <knome> Padfoot30, i can't imagine anything else than something in lightdm breaking unity, so maybe you want to do dkpg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:23] <knome> dpkg- ...
[13:24] <Padfoot30> holstein, yeah live cd is fine but right now I'm running low on data, and that's why the argument
[13:25] <Padfoot30> knome, sorry but I'm not quite an experienced user. I don't exactly know what's lightdm. Is it something like kdm and xfdm?
[13:25] <holstein> i would refer to the writer of the article that suggested the argument.. i have never used it
[13:26] <Padfoot30> Basically, the argument eliminates the recommended packages, keeping only what's essential
[13:27] <holstein> sure.. but its a meta-package.. i would expect a lot of recommends, and all of them to be important
[13:27] <Padfoot30> so less data usage
[13:27] <knome> holstein, nothing "recommended" shouldn't be critial though
[13:27] <knome> Padfoot30, yes, it's the login manager
[13:28] <holstein> you would think... but its the main environment... and something is borked
[13:28] <Padfoot30> but I didn't really need Rhythmbox, Thunderbird, Empathy, etc.
[13:28] <knome> holstein, a recommend for a file manager might be some plugin to handle network mounts, which is in no way critical for the file manager to work :)
[13:28] <knome> Padfoot30, rhythmbox isn't installed with xubuntu though ;)
[13:29] <knome> bbl, lunch/dinner
[13:29] <holstein> Padfoot30: you can try as the guest user... or another user you makd
[13:29] <holstein> make*
[13:29] <Padfoot30> knome, yeah but it was gonna be downloaded with that  package,
[13:30] <Padfoot30> if I didn't use the argument
[13:34] <Padfoot30> Anyway, I guess I'll have to get the full package now! Thanks holstein and knome for your help!
[15:06] <c_smith> hello, I'm having trouble getting Compiz to start on startup on Xubuntu 12.04 64-bit, I have "compiz --replace" in an entry to the startup programs, is there anything I am doing wrong?
[15:10] <c_smith> nevermind, found out what I was doing wrong, I should be adding the fusion icon to the startup programs instead of compiz itself.
[15:11] <recon69_lap> another satisfied customer :) , glad you got it fixed, dont think many here care about wiggly windows
[15:14] <c_smith> eh, I just use it to show off the functionality Linux CAN have in, say, a coffeeshop.
[15:14] <c_smith> and how it could really look good.
[15:53] <c_smith> is there anyone here with any experience with Samba?
[16:00] <recon69_lap> c_smith: best to just ask your question, I have used samba but not sure if it counts as experience :)
[16:04] <c_smith> eh, I figured it out, but I'll tell you what the outcome is: use system-config-samba instead of Nautilus-share.
[16:04] <c_smith> that's what I ended up having to do.
[16:07] <Sysi> samba would be worth a try, because windows shares never seem to work from windows
[16:36] <c_smith> Sysi, I know, and I use Samba to share music with the household (although for my own reasons, I give the share read-only access)
[16:57] <ikonia> l/ast dfrost
[16:57] <ikonia> oops
[16:58] <knome> congrats ikonia :)
[17:49] <rhin0> what would cause xubuntu 10.04 to lose its hardware drivers after a while on a dell laptop
[17:49] <rhin0> they just unload
[17:49] <rhin0> im moving back to ubuntu 10.04 on that machine just to see  if that solve
[17:49] <rhin0> ie. its happened twice
[17:50] <rhin0> both graphics driver and wireless driver *gone*
[17:50] <rhin0> like they're not loaded
[17:51] <rhin0> machine running fine for a week then BANG both drivers gone
[17:51] <holstein> rhin0: kernel upgrade... firmware upgrade... misconfiguration.. bad memory, bad hard drive
[17:51] <rhin0> 1 no 2 no 3 never touch it ie bios setup 4 - would be pretty sure its not memory
[17:51] <rhin0> 5 is an ssd
[17:51] <Sysi> jockey-gtk acting up, did that multiple times for me
[17:51] <rhin0> never had problems with it
[17:52] <rhin0> what - you've had the same problem Sysi?
[17:53] <Sysi> with nvidia driver, yes
[17:53] <rhin0> what the hell would cause drivers to just unload
[17:53] <rhin0> i don't get it
[17:53] <Sysi> gladly there are three version released after 10.04, even one LTS
[17:54] <knome> rhin0, watch the language please
[17:54] <rhin0> well hell I like 10.04
[17:54] <rhin0> been through them all
[17:54] <rhin0> ok
[17:54] <Sysi> no matter what you like, how much you like, it will die
[17:55] <rhin0> 10.04 gives me least problems
[17:56] <rhin0> ubuntu should be like debian imo (1 version)
[17:56] <rhin0> its all over the place - stick with what works - shouldn't be about marketing
[17:57] <rhin0> everyones trying to emulate the microsoft model
[17:57] <Sysi> you just told you have awful problems with drivers
[17:57] <rhin0> they do not give a hoot about their customers
[17:57] <rhin0> I have temporary problems which last a few hours
[17:57] <rhin0> bbl
[17:58] <knome> if ubuntu should be like debian, why aren't you using debian? just wondering...
[17:59] <rhin0> because I haven't got the energy to configure it
[17:59] <rhin0> ubuntu is easier
[18:00] <holstein> rhin0: whats the issue? did you run upgrades? if you have a kernel upgrade, then i would try booting the old one
[18:00] <rhin0> is xubuntu 12.04 lts?
[18:00] <astraljava> rhin0: If you think of LTS's as the debian stable releases, then ubuntu pretty much is like debian.
[18:00] <rhin0> maybe i'll d/l try 12.04 lts
[18:00] <rhin0> is 12.04 xfce?
[18:01] <rhin0> ok ok -- looking
[18:01] <rhin0> gotta be an improvement
[18:02] <rhin0> I have actually ran it for a short time - wil d/l it upgrade
[18:02] <rhin0> ty very much
[18:02] <holstein> rhin0: xubuntu is XFCE, thats what the x is
[18:02] <holstein> there is an ubuntu 12.04, and xubuntu 12.04 (and others)
[18:06] <rhin0> ubuntu lose me with unity
[18:06] <rhin0> can't abide
[18:06] <rhin0> lost me
[18:07] <rhin0> i know what ubuntus there are xubuntu lubuntu mint ubuntu
[18:07] <holstein> rhin0: you have no need to.. there are options.. you dont even need to comment about unity at all.. you can and are encourged to choose what environemtn you like, such as XFCE, and enjoy it
[18:07] <rhin0> can't think of any others
[18:07] <holstein> rhin0: mint is not one
[18:07] <Sysi> mint isn't ubuntu
[18:07] <rhin0> i thought it was an ubuntu
[18:07] <rhin0> ok
[18:07] <xubuntu326> hello guys could i have some help
[18:07] <rhin0> we are here to serve xubuntu
[18:08] <rhin0> 326
[18:08] <holstein> rhin0: it is based on ubuntu, as are many things.. and as ubuntu is based on debian (bascially)
[18:08] <xubuntu326> awsome im running xubuntu
[18:08] <xubuntu326> im trying to install my usb wirless adaptor but dont have a clue how to
[18:08] <xubuntu326> i have been on fourums tried many methods but will not work
[18:09] <holstein> rhin0: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives if you'd like more information
[18:09] <rhin0> ok thanks holstein
[18:09] <holstein> xubuntu326: i would plug it into wired internet, and see if you see a popup about "restricted drivers"
[18:09] <xubuntu326> i am now on wired
[18:10] <rhin0> xubuntu i can't help you there all my usb keys work belkin netgear .. standard types - sounds like you have a non standard type - may need driver from manufacturers website -- there will also be a compatibility list somewhere for your wireless usb key
[18:10] <rhin0> mine just work (pick up network) when you plug them in -- generally only use them to get hardware driver for laptop
[18:10] <xubuntu326> i installed wireless on software centre put my stick in and it doesnt do anything
[18:10] <rhin0> gotta go someone else may help you
[18:10] <xubuntu326> mine is tenda w311u i no it is compatable as other users have had it wrking
[18:11] <holstein> xubuntu326: you can always use the windows driver.. theres a GUI for that.. ndisgtk
[18:11] <holstein> http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/ubuntu-linux-wi-fi-card.file
[18:12] <xubuntu326> thanks will take a look and let you no
[18:12] <holstein> xubuntu326: its not really going to help to say "others have had it working".. manufacturers can switch chipsets... you can run "lsusb" in a terminal, and get the information about the device, and search for assistance
[18:13] <xubuntu326> Ralink rt2870  its on that oone
[18:14] <xubuntu326> sorry im read with linux
[18:14] <xubuntu326> rubbish
[18:15] <rhin0> I never said that holstein
[18:15] <rhin0> you use ndisdriver
[18:16] <rhin0> to use the windows driver if you can't find native linux driver
[18:16] <holstein> xubuntu326: it is not you who is rubbish... some vendors do not allow linux to support the products easily... im sure you'll get it sorted
[18:16] <rhin0> its a wrapper for the windows driver
[18:16] <holstein> rhin0: said what?
[18:16] <rhin0> oh hang on thought you were talkkng to me mis-direct ignore me
[18:16] <rhin0> bbl
[18:17] <holstein> rhin0: no worries
[18:17] <xubuntu326> u di no it is supported just finding the driver
[18:17] <rhin0> you can download the windows driver files -- then wrap then using "ndiswrapper" xubuntu336
[18:17] <xubuntu326> how do i wrap ?
[18:17] <rhin0> so it drives using windows drivers (wrapped)
[18:17] <rhin0> you must find out how to configure "ndiswrapper"
[18:17] <rhin0> get the windows drivers for your usb wireless dongle
[18:17] <xubuntu326> i presume this s a loong nprocess
[18:17] <holstein> xubuntu326: if its supported, i would ask the vendor for support.. otherwise, i would just point ndisgtk to the windwos driver and see if that works
[18:18] <rhin0> longer than getting native linux driver
[18:18] <xubuntu326> it says invalid driver
[18:18] <holstein> xubuntu326: its literally.. download the windwos driver, open ndisgtk... choose it... try
[18:18] <xubuntu326> is it the inf file i use ?
[18:19] <holstein> xubuntu326: you can always point it at everyone and see what the gui will use.. but yes, it should be that one
[18:19] <xubuntu326> ok well i got the ndissgtk do i need anyother software
[18:20] <holstein> xubuntu326: you shouldnt.. just the proper windows driver
[18:21] <xubuntu326> it even has a linux folder on the disk but n inf file
[18:22] <holstein> xubuntu326: it?
[18:22] <xubuntu326> on the disk the device came with
[18:23] <holstein> xubuntu326: cool.. you can try that one then... should be a "readme" somewhere with what kernels are supported and what you are intended to do
[18:24] <xubuntu326> no read me in there
[18:25] <xubuntu326> i have found one in another folder what would i open a read me with
[18:25] <xubuntu326> sorry im not got knowledge with this os im more windows
[18:25] <holstein> xubuntu326: then use the windows driver
[18:26] <xubuntu326> all i get is invalid driver with the windows driver
[18:26] <holstein> xubuntu326: i would call the manufacturer and ask about the driver
[18:26] <c_smith> does anyone here know what I would put for the application menu name so I can bind it to the super key?
[18:26] <holstein> actually, if it were me, id return it, and get a more friendly card
[18:27] <xubuntu326> have done they are chinese and dont have a clue
[18:27] <holstein> c_smith: what application? you can open a terminaln and try tab complete
[18:27] <xubuntu326> its a really good card for windows lol
[18:27] <c_smith> the XFCE4 menu on the panel.
[18:28] <c_smith> currently i have xfce-popup-applicationsmenu
[18:29] <holstein> c_smith: i would probably type xfce in the terminal and hit tab, and read the options.. until someone who knows chimes in
[18:29] <c_smith> kk
[18:30] <c_smith> heh got it. the entry I wanted was xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
[18:31] <holstein> c_smith: cool!...
[18:31] <c_smith> was missing the 4
[18:31] <c_smith> xfce ftw! :D
[18:31] <c_smith> thanks for that bit of info about tabbing with Terminal. did not know that was a viable way to do that. :)
[19:43] <Papa> helloooo guys
[21:29] <nasserash> hi all, is it possible to enable VSync with xfwm4? I get tearing when dragging windows around. I have a thinkpad X220 with intel graphics.
[21:33] <DominicLow> not sure if that is possible but you could try propreitory drivers and such first?
[21:36] <nasserash> DominicLow, I have an intel sandy bridge card. so it's all open source
[22:45] <asterismo> does somebody uses PCmanfm?
[22:47] <asterismo> anyway to remove context menu entries in PCman when clicking in folders?
[22:48] <asterismo> It has this many options, Files, Files, File Manager, File Manager, Open Folder With Thunar
[22:48] <asterismo> can i remove them?
[22:57] <grizlo42> hey all - 2 things: 1) wanted to thank the xubuntu community for making an AWESOME os experience 2) speaking of awesome, I heard about a patch for xfce to support tiling and was curious if anyone here has experience with using it
[23:28] <MikeDRU> Hello everybody, I am stucked with my xubuntu because it doesn't let me boot into my own user profile (which is the root). One week ago it didn't allow me to enter to any profile, and the answer to the login was "stopping v system runlevel compatibility." SO I checked out the forum, updated the packages in the Ctrl+Alt+F1 mode and now it allows me to enter as a guest, but not as the main user, and the answer is "could not write byt
[23:28] <MikeDRU> Anybody able to help me? Please be patient, I'm a beginner
[23:41] <MikeDRU> anybody out there?
[23:42] <David-A> MikeDRU: what is the error when you log in from a Ctrl+Alt+F1 consol? do you ever come to the normal graphical login page? (you should not have user "root" as your normal login)
[23:47] <MikeDRU> David-A: Unfortunately I do have user root as my normal login. I come to the normal graphic interface, I try to log in into it, and the answer is "Cold not write bytes: broken pipes" and then "Saned disabled; edit/etc/default/saved". Sometimes also "Checking battery", but not always