[00:00] well there is not much else we can do, the most updated flash plugin [00:00] and the most recent nvidia driver [00:00] save from turning off hardware accel in flash [00:02] p01nt3r: (in my system the personal plugins folder is ~/.mozilla/plugins with an s, (if or when you would need it)) [00:02] ok thx [00:02] oops typo there, i think it is plugins [00:02] ok [00:03] wasn't there an add on to do it for you? i never used it ;) [00:03] have the .so file just in .mozilla/plugins now [00:03] whats the file name? [00:03] libflashplayer.so [00:03] did you do locate ibflashplayer.so [00:03] er [00:03] just reenabling the nvidia-thing [00:03] libflashplayer.so [00:03] no [00:04] find / -name "libflashplayer.so" [00:04] also remove the flashplugin-nonfree package (apt-get remove, synaptic or your favorite method) [00:04] ok, sec. [00:04] well find works too [00:04] and is more current :) [00:05] hehe [00:05] (catfish is a handy thing) [00:05] never used it [00:05] its gui for find/locate or other engines such as tracker if you bother to install them [00:05] *plugin-nonfree is gone [00:06] good, now make sure there is only 1 libflashplayer.so in your whole system [00:06] getting nvidia-96 back with xorg.conf first? [00:06] yeah, i see why not [00:06] ok, looking for it [00:07] only 2 files, the 1 is from the unzipped package on my desk, so i guess it's ok to have it there? [00:07] you can try a blank xorg.conf (rename it) and run jockey, it should install it [00:07] jockey? [00:07] never used it [00:07] thats the restricted hardware thing true name [00:07] it runs in console too [00:08] aah yes heard it [00:08] kk [00:08] xorg.conf whole blank? [00:08] if you run it, i believe it will install nvidia-96, and configure xorg.conf like a fresh install [00:09] ok then i do so [00:09] just rename it to something else if you want to keep a backup [00:09] (the name of a firefox extension that alledgedly solves flash problems is "flash-aid", have not tried it, finish you current plan for now) [00:09] lol yes, but this is the manual method :) [00:09] David-A, that was exaclty the tool i meant! [00:09] just keep a single flash in there, i have experience of system with multiple versions lurking... not nice, sometimes works, sometiems doesn't ;) [00:10] ok let's try it the manual way - only the manual way is the REAL way xD [00:10] p01nt3r: thats the spirit! [00:10] :-) [00:10] well flash-aid might actually do the very same but whatever [00:11] ie: download file, copy to user folder :P [00:11] let's try the jockey-thing. did rename the xorg.conf(it already was renamed as i explained before) [00:11] yes you can have many files in there, no worries [00:11] ok, wait [00:11] only xorg.conf matters [00:11] i know xD [00:11] you could even delete it nowdays [00:12] but the nvidia driver makes one anyway [00:12] sudo jockey-gtk ... [00:12] and you can put back your options later [00:12] k k [00:12] or from nvidia-settings [00:12] i do not have any xorg.conf file this time [00:12] if possible [00:13] only backuped onces [00:13] ok let the jockey do its job [00:13] running... [00:14] 24 days l8ter ... xD [00:15] is the newest flash-version running with ff from 10.04? [00:16] should [00:16] but you can always add the firefox ppa if you want a more current ff [00:16] k [00:16] let's try the repos ff at first [00:18] still running the jockey-thing.... [00:18] ok reboot [00:18] p3 eh? white the oldie [00:18] quite [00:18] xD [00:19] btw.: jockey made me a new xorg.conf ;-) [00:19] brb [00:19] as expected [00:19] y [00:21] k, nvidia driver running again [00:22] let's try ff and youtube ... [00:24] no video on youtube [00:24] damned [00:25] about:plugins ? [00:28] like before [00:28] so it shows flash in there? [00:28] you have tried other flash pages and they work? [00:29] then youtube is showing a black or something rectangle instead of nothing? [00:29] work not [00:29] in about:plugins it should list libflashplayer.so [00:29] Datei: libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 [00:30] youtube showes nothing, even not any black rectangle [00:31] and this page shows the version running? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [00:31] the rectangle just if i hover with mouse on the video-previews [00:31] you dont have any other add on messing with youtube? and you are loading a flash video instead of html5 one? (just in case :)) [00:32] the site does not show the version running [00:32] p01nt3r: just to verify, no noscript or flashblock extension? (sorry to ask a silly question again) [00:32] your plugin is not working [00:32] actually thats not silly, check :) [00:33] David-A, abp is still disabled at all [00:33] addblock should be no problem here [00:33] ad [00:34] hmm you really really sure the plugin shows in about:plugin? [00:34] about:plugins [00:34] p01nt3r: if you login as guest (or create an alternate profile for yourself) you would run ff with default settings, would you like to try that? [00:34] why not [00:34] but wait [00:35] Artemis3, yes, it does. just checked... [00:35] yes, its possible to disable plugins within the ff preferences [00:35] try the alternate profile stuff [00:37] yes, doing so [00:37] brb [00:50] it's working with the new profile! [00:50] but with some strange behaviour [00:51] ff showes me that i have to install some plugins to get flash videos working [00:51] and if i try to do [00:51] it tells me, the plugin is allready installed xD [00:51] Artemis3, David-A [00:51] hmmm [00:52] i wonder if the file permissions and ownership is ok [00:52] libflashplugin.so should belong to your user and should have proper permissions [00:55] -rw-r--r-- 1 dirk dirk 17406436 2012-05-11 07:40 libflashplayer.so [00:56] try adding x? [00:56] it is weird to list the plugin but then nothing can use it... [00:56] and restart the browser [00:59] p01nt3r: if you run ff as another user and removed all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user, then its right, that ff does not have flash [01:00] well, considering flash was installed in a user folder to begin with :) [01:00] p01nt3r: did you try another ff profile in same user, or logged in as another user? [01:01] another user [01:01] of course [01:01] p01nt3r: did you remove all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user? [01:01] if you use another user, you don't have flash :) [01:02] yes, i did [01:02] i use another user, but i DO have flash ^^ [01:02] p01nt3r: then, let /home/anotheruser/.mozilla/plugins also have a copy... [01:02] well you can copy the flash file to that user folder, and make sure it belongs to that user as well have proper permissions [01:03] i didnt do, and for the other user flash works! but still not for the old user [01:03] well i mean ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [01:04] aja, that means sometihng in your ff settings is blocking the plugin [01:04] hmm [01:04] for your old user [01:04] you can always use another profile, or rename your current one and make a new [01:05] guys, very much thx for your help, but i am a lot of tired and have to go to bed now. let's have a look to this later? [01:05] hhehe as you wish, i might not be here tho [01:05] good luck [01:05] ill try that profile thing tomorrow - THX! [01:05] p01nt3r: i'm confusd, did flash work with another user or not? [01:05] yes it did work [01:06] okay, goodnight, i'm off soon too [01:06] so the answer is in the old user profile settings [01:06] (and i don't understand why...) [01:06] p01nt3r: its something with the ff settings [01:06] have to go to sleep - THX THX THX so far! [01:06] bye [01:06] c ya [01:07] ;-) bb [01:35] hi. why is it that when using apt-get upgrade, it won't download and install the kernel, but it does so with the gui? [01:37] you might want dist-upgrade for that, and try to have the meta package "linux-image" installed ^^ [01:37] ahh. thanks. I'll give that a go next time it wants to install the kernel [01:38] synaptic is less obvious when using the dist-upgrade method [01:39] aeternum_solus: did you use the gui (update manager) first and apt-get upgrade after, then the kernel was already the latest. [01:39] anecdotally, how successful is dist-upgrade? I hear it regularly has problems === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:39] nah. I usually try to apt-get upgrade first, then when it complains that it won't install the kernel, I go to the upgrade manager [01:40] update manager* [01:40] aeternum_solus: did you try apt-get update before apt-get upgrade (i think it is needed) [01:41] no, I didn't do that. I'll try that next time it notifies me there are updates [01:41] also, it notifies me a LOT that there are updates. usually in the vicinity of 30 a day! [01:42] I'm on 11.1 by the way [01:44] aeternum_solus: 11.10 i presume? then your on your own :) do you keep an eye on the release plan, to see when they reach different level of freezing? [01:45] I used to, but not anymore. maybe I'll just stick 12.04 on [01:45] aeternum_solus: sorry, it's 2012 now, i forgot... :) [01:46] eh? [01:46] you thought it was 2013? [01:47] aeternum_solus: (yea, 30 a day sounds alot for 11.10 then) [01:48] interesting, dist-upgrade says no new packages to install [01:49] aeternum_solus: if you updated 10 minutes ago, even if its 30 a day, have some patience :) [01:50] so there's no difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? if upgrade does the same as dist-upgrade, then I'm not sure I see the difference? [01:52] aeternum_solus: read the man page (man apt-get). (dubious help: I just read it but I can't say I understand the difference) [01:53] I did read it, but I still don't see the difference haha :( [01:53] aeternum_solus: it says its more intelligent. thats sometimes good, sometimes bad [01:54] (still dubious, help-wise) [01:56] I think I'll just download an iso and fresh install [02:03] aeternum_solus: "fresh install"? why? it seems to work as it should? or? [02:04] the man page will be the same :) [02:04] haha [02:04] nah, it's a bit quirky.. but I thik that's might be hardware failure actually [02:05] ah, other things [02:05] yep [02:06] hey. one more thing.. in /etc/resolv.conf, it has nameserver 127.0.0.1 .... I don't run a dns server on this machine. is that just network manager being network manager? [02:10] resolvconf, actually. [02:16] fwiw mine has two lines "nameserver" and ip-address somewhere at my isp, and "# Generated by NetworkManager" and was created around the time of my last reboot. [02:17] hmm. mine says generated by resolvconf. dunno. I guess one more of those quirks ubuntu has hehe [02:26] I have a recollection that one can choose if networkmanager or something else gonna rule. it is controllable by a setting in a file in /etc somewhere or one can install/uninstall the party that wants to rule but you dont want it to. maybe a little google? [02:28] I'm not overly concerned, because it does resolve to my dns server, but I was just curious why it uses loopback there [02:47] office in xubuntu 12.04, the middle button(scroll) of the mouse does not work. [02:48] you can't use the middle key of the mouse to scroll the text of the office document [03:23] ouyes: guess you mean click middle button and jox to scroll as opposed to scroll wheel roll. go to tools>options>view and set mouse>middle button to "automatic scrollintg". (default off in unix/linux versions of firefox and openoffice since we like middle button to paste) [03:27] David-A, there is no options in my tools of office, are you in xubuntu 12.04? [03:27] no, 10.04 openoffice ver 3.2 [03:28] is there tools>preferences or edit>options ? [03:29] David-A, thanks for you help , actually I use the abiword, and I think I should install the openoffice [03:30] ouyes: be aware that you can only install libreoffice from the repos. Open office can be downloaded from their website. [03:31] ouyes: go for libreoffice then, probably better supported in 12.04 [03:31] agentgasmask, David-A it is installing, thanks [03:32] ouyes: oops, thanks [03:39] it is really large in size , over 180MiB [03:51] ouyes: (with doc and java my ooo is 278 MiB) [03:52] it is done, it is beautiful, I like it liberoffice [03:53] ouyes: (includes languages for english and my native language, add if you have installed more than 2 languages) [05:03] hi guys [05:03] i have a question [05:04] i'm trying to use PCManFM as default file manager in xubuntu [05:04] but directory menu applet in xfce-panel does not launch PCmanFM [05:04] how can i fix this? [05:05] asterismo: perhaps checkout /etc/alternitives? just a guess. [05:05] cat /etc/alternitives ?? [05:06] agentgasmask, > no such file or directory [05:06] asterismo: you'll have to google it. But basicly it handles what programs are default. also, check my spelling... hahaha [05:06] oh! [05:06] yeah [05:07] agentgasmask, [05:07] i could get in it [05:07] thanks [05:07] any idea what file i have to modify? [05:08] asterismo: I don't think you modify the files directly. there are some commandline utilities to hadle that. [05:09] asterismo: update-alternatives, perhaps. Might need to be run as root [05:09] agentgasmask, if i have one instance of pcmanfm open, then hitting the directory menu opens a new tab [05:09] but if i have no pcmanfm instance, it do not open anything [05:10] Hmmm... sorry can't help you there. Anyone else able to help the fine gentleman? [06:07] Can someone help me with my wifi [06:07] hi [06:07] ;p; [06:07] hey [06:07] what version :D [06:07] hah [06:07] the newest i think lol [06:07] 64 or 32 [06:07] 64 [06:08] any recent updating done? [06:08] added any new applications? [06:08] i tryed but it said evweythings up to date [06:08] when was the last time it worked flawlessly? [06:08] idk i just downloaded it [06:08] its been kinda buggy but mostly just the wifi [06:08] oh you just installed it for the first time? [06:08] yea [06:08] has it ever worked? [06:09] kinda [06:09] definately maybe? [06:09] but i have to connect it to ethernet if i want to log in if i shut it down [06:09] cause the wifi never auto connects [06:09] and now it doesnt work at all [06:09] go to a shell and type lspci -v and see what kind of wireless card it is. is it broadcom? [06:10] do you have a switch? [06:10] shell? [06:10] switch? [06:10] switch for off/on wireless [06:10] you mean terminal? [06:10] and no i dont think so [06:10] is it laptop? [06:10] yes [06:10] mfg? [06:10] its an intel wifi card [06:10] mfg? [06:10] manufacturer? [06:11] dell [06:11] hp compaq dell [06:11] dell inspiron 6000 [06:11] how long have you had it? [06:11] 10 years lo [06:11] lol [06:11] oh ok [06:11] jsut a sec [06:12] there is a wifi button [06:12] no? [06:12] its an intel prowireless 2200 bg (calexico2) [06:12] and no i liiked [06:12] looked' [06:12] hold on [06:13] it came with it? [06:13] ye [06:13] i never got a different card [06:13] ok it was default card yes? [06:13] yea [06:13] well i updated the driver when i still had windows [06:13] idk if that means anything [06:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608 [06:14] whats thaty [06:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010303 [06:14] answers [06:14] solutions [06:15] oh [06:15] it says no for both blocked [06:16] you type lspci -nn or lspci -v an it says intel? [06:17] yea [06:17] i dont get the answer thing though [06:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608 <--- this looks like the solution to me. [06:18] well the reason i asked was so you could verify it was taht card but if your positive that link looks like the solutoin to me. [06:18] how do i type this symbol? "|" [06:18] but there are smarter people then me here. [06:19] above the \ with shift key [06:19] | [06:19] ohhh [06:19] thanks lol [06:19] your welcome [06:20] ok so [06:20] i typed that thing in the terminal [06:20] your sure there was no update recently? cause on this other laptop i have debian and it just had an update and now wifi doesnt work on it...so it has to be the update. kinda like the goofy stuff with windows updates. [06:21] ok well select all copy it and paste to pastebin.com and submit and get the url and post it in the channel [06:21] huh? [06:21] ok you just did a brand new install of xubuntu correct? [06:21] yea [06:22] i cant copy and past cause im not on it\ [06:22] its next to me [06:22] and wifi doesnt work from the git go correct? [06:22] ok [06:22] well plug a ethernet cable and get online with it [06:22] ill try [06:22] eithernet doesnt work [06:23] idk why [06:23] it doesnt? [06:23] wait ill try again [06:23] have you ever used linux/unix before? [06:23] kinda [06:24] here is an idea to figure stuff out quickly [06:24] do this download ubntu 10.10 and burn it and boot with it and see what happens to see if that works first ok? [06:24] yea ethernet isnt working now [06:24] what do you mean? [06:25] you mean burn it to a disk and try to run it on my laptop? [06:25] not try, boot it [06:25] with a cd live cd mode [06:25] i cant my disc drive doesnt work for swome reason [06:25] see if you have functionality [06:25] ok [06:25] this is a joke i think [06:25] i installed xubuntu with a usb drive [06:25] im not joking [06:26] ok well burn 10.10 to the usb drive then [06:26] boot with that and see what you get [06:26] i used some compressed thing cause it only has 500 mb of space [06:26] and had it connected thru ethernet and downloaded the os thru the servers [06:26] you mean netinstall? [06:26] ye [06:26] yea [06:27] could that be why the wifi isnt working [06:27] did i do something wrong [06:27] ok well do a netinstall and install 10.10. i mean you said you just installed today or tonight so your not losing anything and your learning something about your computer and about yourself [06:27] no shouldnt be [06:27] you said there is no buton? [06:27] button? [06:28] no but hold on im gunna try to go on ethernet again\ [06:28] im restarting my laptop [06:29] i cant do another os load though [06:29] hold the fn key down and press f2 [06:29] why not? [06:29] cause i used my laptop to download and do everything [06:29] and iim on my phone now\ [06:29] i dont understand? [06:29] ohh for chat? [06:29] like its the only computer i have [06:29] yea [06:30] hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates [06:30] once it comes up i mean. [06:30] one sec my laptops turning on [06:30] k [06:31] it always says waiting for network config when i turn it on [06:31] under the xubuntu logo [06:31] and it never connects and starts without network config [06:31] if you hold fn key down and then f2 does the light come on? [06:31] idk what that is [06:31] i gotta wait its not on yet [06:32] cant someone in here offer a suggestion? [06:32] ok [06:32] i dont think there here [06:32] ;p; [06:32] lol [06:32] ok its on now [06:33] hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates [06:33] it deoesnt [06:33] it says networking dissabled [06:33] enable it [06:33] it wont let me click it [06:33] its faded out [06:33] you right click on the network icon on the upper panel on your right? [06:33] yea [06:34] but its faded out and doesnt let me click it [06:34] just edit connections is [06:34] well hold on... [06:34] you booted with usb right? [06:34] yea [06:34] you did netinstall right? [06:34] yea [06:34] well why dont you go thru the process again? cause obviously it worked for you install it that way correct? [06:35] i tryed that already though and gave up [06:35] it still happens [06:35] well hold on. it worked before so it has to work again. [06:35] ok [06:36]