[01:47] <burdickjp> can anyone here direct me to where I can get help with Kubuntu Active on a tablet, specifically an Dell Inspiron ST with an Atom Z670 / GMA 600 graphics
[01:48] <burdickjp> I'm having graphics problems on booting the install media
[01:48] <burdickjp> sorry, latitude ST
[01:48] <LordOfTime> burdickjp:  what graphics problems
[01:49] <burdickjp> screen goes black and system is unresponsive
[01:49] <burdickjp> CTRL+ALT F7/F8 and ALT F1,F2,F3 do nothing
[02:02] <burdickjp> alright!  I am trying to boot the 12.04 install media and it stops with an interrupt problem:  common_interrupt+0x30/0x38
[02:10] <burdickjp> alright.  rebooting 4 times got me to a desktop.
[02:12] <burdickjp> the install media isn't recognizing an NTFS partition on my drive.  I've a 128GB drive with a 32GB NTFS partition.  It sees it as empty.
[02:26] <burdickjp> anyone listenning, this is what I have tried for getting the NTFS partition visible:
[02:26] <burdickjp>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10108749&postcount=9
[02:30] <phoenix_firebrd> burdickjp: what is you kubuntu version?
[02:34] <burdickjp> I'm working on Kubuntu Active 12.04
[02:35] <burdickjp> I apologize, the "anyone listenning" part of that above came across rather rude.
[02:35] <burdickjp> I'm used to Python channels, which move rather quickly, and involve many parallel conversations
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> burdickjp: Its the time
[02:36] <burdickjp> I'm not complaining, just saying that my statement was out of place
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> burdickjp: channel is active during the day time of american and europian time zone
[02:37] <phoenix_firebrd> burdickjp: you can also try the ubuntu channel, its more active than kubuntu
[02:40] <burdickjp> thank you!
[02:40] <phoenix_firebrd> burdickjp: yw
[04:00] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I am using search and launch view for Kubuntu desktop, I installed aurora, but in the top bar I am still getting icon of firefox. Take a look at this image http://imagebin.org/224373 . Can anyone please help?
[04:20] <amason> c2tarun: perhaps you need to set the default browser to aurora
[04:48] <c2tarun> amason: when I installed, it kind of replaced firefox. so I think it is my default browser
[04:51] <amason> ok
[05:09] <snagglepuss> c2tarun:   hover over firefox icon in top panel and you should see a minus sign beside it....click on it to remove it.    drag and drop the aurora icon from the KMenu to the top panel
[05:17] <c2tarun> snagglepuss: trying that
[05:19] <c2tarun> snagglepuss: I went to KDE menu editor and changed icon from there. Now its coming as aurora :) thanks for help
[05:20] <snagglepuss> yw :)
[07:35] <decci> Hi Guys
[07:44] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:10] <demone> ciao a tutti
[10:10] <demone> chi ce qua
[10:43] <nadim> hi, I am having big prestanda problems when using gimp in kubuntu, it's not gimp, its the windowing, right clicking for a context menu takes seconds, getting menues or file dialogues even longer making it extremelly difficult to use. cpu usage is high, most going to X. anyone having the same problems?
[10:44] <nadim> the problems are not uniq to gimp
[10:49] <hateball> nadim: Is it unique to GTK apps tho?
[10:49] <hateball> nadim: that is, if you fire up Krita, does that work as expected?
[10:53] <nadim> not at home right now, can't test that. firefox takes ages to koad some pages, cpu fans noisy as hell most of the time
[10:53] <nadim> it may be just gtk applications, i didn't think about that before
[10:54] <hateball> It could be some problem with the gtk-engine or something
[10:54] <hateball> Firefox is a pig anyhow, no surprise :p
[10:55] <nadim> I agree with that but the problems I have are -HUGE- I'd go to use windows 3.1 rather than suffer this much, it's sometimes TOTALLY unusable
[10:55] <hateball> nadim: well you can check first if it's only GTK apps, then try to change the widget style, if that makes any difference
[10:56] <hateball> is this on 12.04 btw?
[10:56] <nadim> no, I didn't dare upgrade yet
[10:56] <nadim> although I am constantly reminded
[11:00] <hateball> nadim: That means you're running what?
[11:00] <hateball> I only have 12.04 machines around anyhow, so I wont be able to reproduce
[11:36] <mah454> Hello
[11:36] <mah454> How can install DreamDesktop on KDE 4.9 ?
[11:44] <phil___> what's that ? DreamDesktop ?
[11:45] <hateball> phil___: Live wallpapers
[11:45] <hateball> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHGovxtzfDs
[11:46] <phil___> oh~it sounds cool
[11:46] <mah454_> How can use it ?
[11:46] <mah454_> I thing released with KDE 4.9
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:28] <phil___> Hi BluesKaj
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hi phil___
[12:31] <phil___> hi, what's your time there ?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> 8:31AM EDT
[12:32] <phil___> my time is 8:32pm
[12:32] <phil___> so, BluesKaj, you are in America
[12:33] <BluesKaj> phil___, Canada
[12:34] <phil___> oh, right, Canada
[12:34] <starlook> here in Brazil 09:33 AM
[12:36] <BluesKaj> phil___, Bejing ..right ?
[12:36] <phil___> yes
[12:36] <phil___> BluesKaj, ever been here ?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> 12hrs diff , ...recall when my son and daughter were teaching in taiwan ,,12 hrs diff there as well
[12:37] <BluesKaj> not to Bejing
[12:38] <BluesKaj> this conversation should be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <phil___> yes
[12:39] <BluesKaj> I'm there
[12:39] <phil___> I have a question
[12:40] <phil___> how do you start applications in Kubuntu, from the menu, the desktop like windows or the dock like a mac
[12:41] <phil___> I wonder which is the most efficient way in Kubuntu
[12:41] <BluesKaj> phil___, install quicklaunch, or a docker like cairo ,
[12:43] <BluesKaj> quicklaunch can be added as a widget, from the cashew -paneltoolbox
[12:44] <BluesKaj> then just drag the app icons from the kmenu to the launcher
[12:47] <phil___> Hi BluesKaj , very helpful info, thanks
[12:48] <starlook> after update to 4.9 by ppa, crash many applications.... and the kdm not start.  after the downgrade to 4.8 by ppa-purge....  now the multi-monitor function over randr not work.
[12:48] <starlook> when i plug a second monitor, work with same screen, but not extend
[12:49] <starlook> in the configuration area......   say:  there not a second monitor
[12:49] <starlook> how to reinstall the randr utility and your dependences?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> starlook, KDE 4.9 official release is available in the backports , sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports. then update , upgrade , and dist-upgrade.
[12:51] <starlook> not work for me. my user not login after de update
[12:51] <starlook> i not performed the "dist-upgrade"
[12:52] <BluesKaj> starlook, that was your mistake , always dist-upgrade
[12:52] <BluesKaj> it upgrades all KDE packages band removes old ones that are no longer needed
[12:53] <BluesKaj> band=and
[12:53] <starlook> when the kde 4.9 will be in the apper or muon list ?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> starlook, have you looked in muon lately for KDE-base 4.4.9.0
[13:00] <starlook> BluesKaj: Not in my list
[13:00] <BluesKaj> starlook, did you add the backports ?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> phil___,  look here , http://glx-dock.org/
[13:03] <phil___> Hi BluesKaj, I know cario-dock , it works fine with gnome, what about with KDE ?
[13:05] <nixkid> phil__, see http://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=First%20Steps&lang=en#0-Cairo-Dock 2 with OpenGL support
[13:07] <BluesKaj> phil___, if you install it the necessary gtk libs and dependencied will be auto installed as well
[13:09] <phil___> so BluesKaj, you recommend me to use cario-dock ?
[13:10] <konqui> Hi, In rekonq I am unable to use the address bar as a search bar ... e.g If I want to search linux in google with the address bar and type in "linux", it takes me to "http://linux" which leads to error loading page
[13:11] <BluesKaj> I haven't used it in many yrs , I prefer the launcher ..not as eye candy , but for stability
[13:11] <BluesKaj> phil___,^
[13:11] <phil___> yes, I agree with you
[13:11] <BluesKaj> nixkid, that site you posted seems rather outdated
[13:12] <jdrs> konqui: put a ":" withouht the qoutes before your search
[13:13] <konqui> jdrs: It used to work in 11.10 without that, can I change this setting then
[13:14] <konqui> jdrs: That does not work ... now it takes me to "file://: linux"
[13:16] <konqui> jdrs: Any ideas?
[13:17] <Peace-> konqui: what's the probme?
[13:17] <hateball> konqui: Settings -> search services, enable
[13:17] <BluesKaj> rekonq keeps having script errors on some sites , guess the underlying java etc scripts aren't as forgiving on mistakes as chrome
[13:17] <hateball> konqui: have you checked that?
[13:17] <konqui> hateball: Checking
[13:18] <konqui> Peace-: Rekonq doesn't allow me to use the address bar as a search
[13:18] <SaCruM> Could someone teach me how to change close/maximize/minimize buttons to the left side on kubuntu 12.04?
[13:19] <Peace-> konqui: just leave that crap browser in the repository and use a good browser
[13:19] <konqui> SaCruM: Go in workspace settings
[13:19] <SaCruM> konqui: is that the settings?
[13:19] <konqui> SaCruM: In system settings
[13:19] <SaCruM> konqui: i mean, system confiration?
[13:19] <SaCruM> konqui: ah, ok, and then?
[13:19] <konqui> Window decorations, configure buttons
[13:20] <konqui> SaCruM: There is a drag and drop interface to move stuff
[13:20] <SaCruM> konqui: ok, thank you..
[13:21] <konqui> Peace-: I had bug issues with rekonq a lot before ... but find it considerably better than before except for the search issue I currently have ... otherwise what good qt browsers exist?
[13:22] <Peace-> konqui: qt?
[13:22] <Peace-> konqui: just use chromium or firefox they are the top browser and they work well on kubuntu
[13:22] <Peace-> rekonq its only a joke
[13:22] <konqui> Peace-: Yes using the qt toolkit by digia (previously nokia)
[13:23] <Peace-> even konqueror is better than rekonq
[13:23] <konqui> Peace-: Firefox is slow with many tabs on a netbook ... chromium is good but somewhat not to my taste
[13:23] <phil___> Hi anyone here use "sass", i met an error with it in Kubuntu
[13:24] <hateball> konqui: did you find the setting I suggested?
[13:24] <Peace-> konqui: you will get always pronblems with rekonq because developer are few and there are bugs
[13:25] <konqui> hateball: Yes, I managed to sort it out adding colon to parameter to define search .. thanks
[13:27] <konqui> Peace-: I had that opinion too years back but until very recently I have found it to be an adequate browser
[13:27] <Peace-> so as you wish
[13:42] <netrunner_> hh
[14:11] <Saltire> i've just logged into kubuntu and i think my desktop has changed to gnome - how can i change back to kde?
[14:37] <Riddell> Saltire: ensure the right one (KDE Plasma) is selected before you log in
[14:39] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[14:39] <BluesKaj> installed W7 again for my family's and friend's sakes , since they look to me for computer help. this nettalk client seems quite good , altho on windows the fonts are ugly ..someting I'll have to change
[14:45] <joe_____> ok this quassel is a little better
[14:52] <jaafar> anyone else suffering from awful sound problems the last 4-8 weeks?
[14:53] <jaafar> flash, amarok, both affected
[14:53] <sonic|2> what's wrong with your sound?
[14:53] <Phoenixz> Hello, using kubuntu 12.04, I have a Quadro FX 580 video card, using the recommended nvidea driver in jockey, I have 2 monitors (one on displayport1 over a converter to DVI, a second on DVI over a converter to VGA.. don't ask..)  So system settings only shows the #1 monitor on DVI (to VGA..) not the other one.. Google found that I should use  disper -d auto -e, which enables both monitors, but kubuntu shows them as being only one monitor in the list.
[14:53] <Phoenixz> . How can I have kubuntu system settings show both monitors, and work from there?
[14:54] <jaafar> sonic|2: massive skipping.  starts minor, gets worse as time progresses, eventually cannot play anything (everything comes out super fast) until I reboot
[14:55] <jaafar> I assume it started with some software update but I don't know which one
[14:56] <jaafar> interestingly it affects flash too (videos go too fast) but not exclusively
[14:56] <jaafar> this is 64b 12.04
[14:56] <sonic|2> sorry, jaafar, i have no idea
[14:56] <jaafar> thanks anyway sonic|2
[14:57] <jaafar> Phoenixz are you using nvidia-settings to check monitor status/enable displays?
[14:58] <jaafar> that always worked best for me (vs. system settings)
[14:58] <jaafar> Applications -> Settings -> NVIDIA X Server Settings
[14:59] <sithlord48> when you install the properitary dirver like the NVIDIA one you should always use their tool to change your Xorg settings.
[15:00] <Phoenixz> jaafar: huh :) Did not know that.. checking..
[15:00] <sithlord48> jaafar are you using HDMI by any chance?
[15:01] <jaafar> sithlord48 HDMI? No, I don't believe so... DVI
[15:02] <jaafar> is there some way that could be related to my audio problem?
[15:03] <sithlord48> yes, i get random audio speeding up in VLC (only VLC) but only when using HDMI sound (im using radieon driver)
[15:03] <sithlord48> have you tried anything to fix your audio ? and if so what (so i don't suggest it)
[15:05] <jaafar> sithlord48: someone suggested rm -rf ~/.pulse;sudo reboot
[15:05] <jaafar> I've done that a couple of times; it helps a bit I guess but it may be just the rebooting
[15:06] <jaafar> oh crap I AM using HDMI
[15:06] <sithlord48> check your sound settings in systemSettings->Multimedia->Phonon both device preferences (try the test button after you select your device ) and the hardware setup . be sure its a sane profile/ connector.
[15:07] <jaafar> I thought HDMI was some kind of video cable?
[15:07] <sithlord48> its both video and audio. if you use it for that.
[15:08] <sithlord48> in teh audio hardware setup tab i was talking about above you can set preferances for a profile of a device. in teh device preferences tab you can set what device you want ot use for what kind of sound
[15:08] <jaafar> sithlord48 what would constitute a "sane" setting?  I have no idea :)
[15:09] <jaafar> The device preference tab shows first "Built In Analog Audio", second "GF108 High Definition Audio Controller something something"
[15:10] <jaafar> hardware setup shows GF108 for both
[15:10] <sithlord48> if your using normal computer speakers i would think you would want built in hardware. top of that list.
[15:11] <sithlord48> then in hardware setup you can change eithers settings.  my guess is your currently using that so it selects them as the default item shown.
[15:11] <jaafar> Built-in appears to be preferred as its the first in the list (right?)
[15:12] <sithlord48> yes perfered is first in on the list in device preferences. just be aware of all the different kinds of audio output. it is possible to set a preferred for each kind.
[15:14] <jaafar> hm, still skipping
[15:15] <jaafar> built-in is selected as preferred for all output
[15:15] <sithlord48> ok
[15:15] <jaafar> backend is gstreamer
[15:15] <sithlord48> you could try another backend see if it changes the issue
[15:15] <jaafar> any suggestions?
[15:16] <jaafar> (there is only gstreamer listed)
[15:16] <sithlord48> you need to install another backend
[15:17] <sithlord48> the package  phonon-backend-xine . or phonon-backend-vlc .
[15:17] <jaafar> sithlord48: thanks I will try them out.  You've been a big help.
[15:17] <sithlord48> then you can perfer another  and see if its the backend.
[15:17] <sithlord48> your welcome
[15:17] <Phoenixz> Ok, so I used nvidea settings to get my 2nd display to work, now I have 2 displays, how can I get anything but the desktop to be on the 2nd screen? I have a lot of windows on my screen one that I want to have on screen 2... How would I go about that?
[15:18] <sithlord48> Phoenixz:  your in "Clone" mode change it to another in your nvidia-settings.
[15:20] <Phoenixz> sithlord48: Actually, no, these are 2 separate windows.. not cloned, content is different, screen 1 has windows screen 2 does not have.. screen 2 does not have any windows yet actually, nothing.. I also don't want to use xinerama since that breaks special effects on kubuntu.. So I have 2 different screens now, how can I get window X to run in screen 2? :)
[15:21] <sithlord48> im not sure since i don't use the NVIDIA driver. if its a kde thing you want to check system settings->workspace Behavor and see if changing it to one desktop will do what you want.
[15:22] <jaafar> Phoenixz in nvidia settings you can specify "where" the other screen is (above, below, left/right of original screen)
[15:23] <jaafar> then just drag the desired windows to the new screen
[15:23] <jaafar> your mouse will move to the new display as you move it
[15:23] <Phoenixz> jaafar: yeah, that I have set.. its just that I cannot drag a window from screen 1 to screen 2...
[15:23] <mah454> Hello
[15:23] <jaafar> Phoenixz orly? that is strange
[15:23] <Phoenixz> jaafar: mouse does, window doesnt
[15:23] <mah454> Some applications lost menu icons in KDE !
[15:23] <jaafar> odd
[15:23] <mah454> for example inkscape lost menu icons
[15:23] <mah454> why ?
[15:24] <Phoenixz> It does in xinerama mode, but once that was specified, I no longer had the KDE special effects..
[15:24] <Phoenixz> though, now that I have reversed that, I still dont have the special effects.. yay, way to go nvidia :)
[15:24] <sithlord48> AMD open driver works very nice :P
[15:25] <Phoenixz> I'll start with xinerama again, then see if I somehow can get the special effects back.. BRB
[15:26] <sithlord48> goto systemsettings->desktop Effects -> and try the option there when its crash it should say somethign like "re detect open GL " or some thign like that.
[15:27] <sithlord48> or use Alt+Shift+F12 in an attempt to toggle them back on.
[15:27] <Phoenixz> OK, now I have xinerama mode enabled again, so I can move windows in between screens, but KDE special effects is gone, gives me this: Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.
[15:27] <sithlord48> are you using the xRender backend?
[15:28] <Phoenixz> sithlord48: Sorry, asking me? I don't know, how would I know if I am using xRender?
[15:28] <sithlord48> check in system settings -> desktop Effects-> advanced : what is your compositing Type set to
[15:28] <Phoenixz> Since this nvidia thing creatged a new X config file, I can only imagine that X should load some libs that are no longer loaded due to the new nvidea xconfig file?
[15:29] <Phoenixz> sithlord48: Was opengl, set to xrender, apply failed with "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.", "Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type"
[15:29] <sithlord48> and Alt+Shift+F12  ?
[15:30] <sithlord48> do u know what video card you have?
[15:30] <Phoenixz> sithlord48: doesnt do anything at all..
[15:30] <disposable> in kubuntu 12.04 i am unable to use use kmail or kontact. as soon as i start it, i get "KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection." I deleted my .kde and logged out/in in case it was caused by my old kde4.3 settings, didn't help. I configured akonadi to use my local mysql server instead of mysql-akonadi too, that also didn't help. what else is there to do?
[15:30] <Phoenixz> lspci says 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [Quadro FX 580] (rev a1)
[15:30] <sithlord48> disposable:  check that you have both akonadi and nepomuk running
[15:31] <Phoenixz> Could it be that xorg is not loading the required libraries ? IIRC, xorg.conf can have required libraries specified
[15:31] <sithlord48> yes it could .
[15:32] <sithlord48> when you installed did u you use the live cd
[15:33] <sithlord48> Phoenixz: if you used the live cd and your effects worked you could possibly the use nouveau driver.
[15:33] <Phoenixz> sithlord48: I installed it using livecd yes, but that was a while ago.. all was fine until I added this extra monitor
[15:33] <disposable> sithlord48: i guess they are both running. nepomuk is indexing my files, akonadi configuration application also says 'the akonadi server is running'.
[15:34] <sithlord48> disposable:  you upgraded from 4.3  to 4.8?
[15:34] <Phoenixz> Since I have no errors in my X org log, I suppose the drivers are simply not being loaded ata all
[15:35] <sithlord48> you can check that open a konsole and run modprobe
[15:35] <sithlord48> sorry run lsmod
[15:35] <sithlord48> that will list loaded modules look for NVIDIA or nouveau on the list
[15:35] <disposable> i had debian squeeze with kde before, then i ran ubuntu with unity and now i want kde back. but this should not affect thsi installation. i moved ~/.kde to ~/.kde.bak (same with ~/.kderc)
[15:36] <sithlord48> i see. disposable did u install on top of ubuntu ? if so be sure you have the kubuntu-desktop package installed you could be missing a part?
[15:37] <Phoenixz> There you go.. in xorg, extensions section has  Option         "Composite" "Disable".. I have enabled it and added "damage", lets see...
[15:39] <sithlord48> also disposable check systemSettings->personal information that where the resource collection can be viewed
[15:43] <disposable> sithlord48: removing ~/.config/akonadi seems to have given it a nudge
[15:45] <Sven_Oostenbrink> Well, looks like Im screwed.. Either I'll have desktop effects, or I'll have dual monitor..
[15:46] <Sven_Oostenbrink> If I reenable the effects, opengl crashes due to driver errors.. xrender same deal
[15:46] <Sven_Oostenbrink> Get me right, I am a linux fanboy, but its 2012, and I still don't have a normal stable, *WORKING* video card driver... :(
[15:47] <sithlord48> stop using nvidia cards/driver.. i have had less and less problem w/ my Ati card for the past few years.
[15:48] <sithlord48> and i never liked ati always had Geforces before.
[15:48] <Sven_Oostenbrink> sithlord48: I know AIT is better, ask torvalds :) Anyway, I got this computer when I got here..
[15:49] <sithlord48> have you tried the nouevau driver?
[15:50] <sithlord48> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix
[15:50] <jaafar> gah, it's not the backend
[15:51]  * jaafar is now running VLC
[15:56] <BluesKaj> away
[15:56] <Sven_Oostenbrink> sithlord48: Not yet, will do so when I have some more time.. Its a little bit frustrating at times :) But thanks for the help so far!
[15:57] <Sven_Oostenbrink> sithlord48: Also, how would I install that one.. looking..
[16:04] <sithlord48> you just ahve to remove teh nvidia driver it you should already have it on your system
[16:04] <sithlord48> look for nouveau in the package manager to find the package so you can see if its installed.
[16:10] <jaafar> sithlord48 actually I think the VLC backend may be better
[16:10] <jaafar> It did immediately skip, but since then it's seemed to be better
[16:11] <sithlord48> good
[16:11] <sithlord48> when vlc mis behaves with my hdmi sound i just change the volume and that will usually make it stop
[16:11] <thecaptain2000_> hi, with KDE9, I have aproblem with desktop effects. When trying to move a window, the windows does not move unless I move th mouse for  a couple of centimeters (one inch) then it just move with no problems. It must be a kwin thing as when I try to move  windows containing windows program (run with wine) the windows move flowlessly. Any idea?
[16:12] <sithlord48> its a bug will be fixed in kde 4.9.1
[16:12] <jaafar> sithlord48 thanks for the tip
[16:12] <sithlord48> jaafar:  your welcome
[16:12] <jaafar> uh oh "mixer cannot be found"
[16:13] <thecaptain2000_> sithlord48: "it's a bug" where you talking to me?
[16:13] <sithlord48> yes thecaptain2000_
[16:13] <thecaptain2000_> sithlord48: cool.
[16:15] <sithlord48> thecaptain2000_:  i was looking for the bug report someone was asking about it just the other day , its been closed and im thinking will be part of the 4.9.1 release.
[16:40] <yaffs> !ops
[16:40] <yaffs> !staff
[16:46] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:22] <danielo> hey Guys, may I ask You about kde 4.9
[17:22] <danielo> I am using it for a few day
[17:22] <danielo> i really like it
[17:23] <lordievader> danielo: Is 4.9 in the repos already?
[17:23] <danielo> in kubuntu
[17:23] <danielo> in backports only
[17:23] <danielo> but it is great
[17:23] <danielo> :D
[17:23] <lordievader> danielo: Better than 4.8.5? Is it stable?
[17:23] <danielo> for me it is great
[17:24] <danielo> but I had to creat a new user with new .kde stuff
[17:24] <danielo> like usually :P
[17:24] <lordievader> Hmm, that ain't so good :(
[17:24] <danielo> no :P
[17:24] <danielo> It works great on old users to :P
[17:25] <BluesKaj> somer ppl forget to dist-upgrade after installing kde 4.9 and end up having problem , U can't understand the reluctance to do so , it's notupgrading the OS justb the kde associated packages
[17:25] <danielo> but I have the same user directory since kde 4.0.0
[17:25] <danielo> :P
[17:25] <lordievader> danielo: Old users?
[17:25] <danielo> I mean user directory since kde 4.6 :P
[17:25] <lordievader> danielo: You mean users from before the 4.9 update?
[17:25] <lordievader> Ah oke.
[17:26] <danielo> or like  me from beginning kde 4
[17:26] <danielo> yeah
[17:26] <BluesKaj> this spellcheck doesn't work very well :)
[17:26] <danielo> I had  a really trashed
[17:26] <danielo> cause I am trying a lot of new stuff :P
[17:27] <danielo> I dont like one think
[17:27] <lordievader> Oh well, perhaps I should try it out someday.
[17:27] <danielo> the bouncing icon of launching app isnt for me :P
[17:28] <danielo> I thing that You should :P
[17:28] <lordievader> danielo: You know a ":P" is not the same as a ".".
[17:30] <lordievader> danielo: Has a lot changed with the update to 4.9?
[17:30] <c2tarun> hey, do anyone have any idea what this error means? http://imagebin.org/224447
[17:31] <danielo> its hard to same for me cause I used kde from project neon (daily builds)
[17:31] <danielo> I thing it is more smooth
[17:31] <danielo> faster
[17:32] <lordievader> danielo: That is always nice.
[17:35]  * BluesKaj stays away from project neon after receiving some apps that broke my system
[17:36] <nsmgo> I'm having problems opening up my default link in chromium; browsers epiphiny, firefox, opera, and chromium are simutaneously installed.
[17:36] <lordievader> Downside of the daily builds.
[17:39] <nsmgo> i have tried using system-settings to select default application, however firefox keeps picking up the links when opened.
[17:42] <Peace-> BluesKaj: are you there?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Peace- yes , sort of ...on windows  trying fix stuff
[17:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: have you tried jack ?
[17:44] <Peace-> i have firefox muted now
[17:44] <Peace-> the other stuff works
[17:44] <BluesKaj> Peace- I have tried jack , but not for a long time
[17:44] <lordievader> Jack and PA is not a good combination...
[17:45] <BluesKaj> no jack and alsa work fairly well together , and flash audio and jack aren't linkable either
[17:45] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error? : http://imagebin.org/224447
[17:47] <lordievader> c2tarun: What happens when you run: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[17:47] <BluesKaj> I would love to dump pulse audio and have been searching for a method to get alsa and audio on websites to link , but noluck with a pci soundcrad
[17:48] <c2tarun> lordievader: never tried, I even dont know what is ttf-mscorefonts-installer for?
[17:48]  * c2tarun can guess something related to fonts.
[17:48] <lordievader> c2tarun: You are probably trying to do something with wine?
[17:48] <lordievader> c2tarun: For as far as I know it are Windows fonts.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Peace- what have you done with jack ?
[17:49] <c2tarun> lordievader: I tried and I got that it is newest. I have wine, tried few softwares on it but failed to make them work.
[17:49] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well i have installed and before that audio was workign great
[17:49] <lordievader> c2tarun: And when do you get this error?
[17:49] <Peace-> then everything worked great less flash
[17:49] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ^
[17:50] <BluesKaj> yes Peace- , that's common
[17:50] <c2tarun> lordievader: I dont know, anytime. Sometimes I just notice a bulb in my tray icon. I click on it and I get this screen.
[17:51] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well so ?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> bbiab ... post/mail box needs checking
[17:51] <lordievader> c2tarun: I have a feeling that when you remove the package the error will fade away, however it might break wine's operations.
[17:52] <c2tarun> lordievader: hmm.. wine is not doing any good to, I can risk it.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Peace- i mean does jack work without pulseaudio on website audio ?
[17:52] <Peace-> BluesKaj: nope
[17:52] <c2tarun> lordievader: can this be due to virtual box, I have win xp installed in virtual box
[17:52] <Peace-> i just tried to remove pulse and kill it
[17:53] <Peace-> with jack
[17:53] <Peace-> but flash audio doesn't work
[17:53] <lordievader> c2tarun: I think not, what it is complaining about is that the ttf-mscore... package wants to install other packages that are not available or something.
[17:54] <c2tarun> hmm... ok I'll remove --purge it :) thanks lordievader
[17:55] <lordievader> c2tarun: No problem.
[17:56] <Ze_Blob> Hi, during the upgrade 11-10 -> 12-04 muon installed 1500 package or so, fine,  then I was off the computer for a while and when I got back the little window listing the steps for the upgrade was closed, so I thought this part was finished and, as it was asked as the last step, I had to reboot the computer at this stage prior to make a second run of 250 packages or so. My mistake, as the...
[17:56] <Ze_Blob> ...machine was unable to boot anymore, keeping asking for glibc 2.14. On top of that, unfortunately the keyboard of the clevo laptop was reacting weirdly with the rescue mode, and anyway none of the options (to log as root for instance) were successful because of the missing glibc. I would like to know what would be the simple option now to be able to make a "sudo dpkg --configure -a " to...
[17:56] <Ze_Blob> ...finish the upgrade. I was able to start a Kubuntu in "TRY it" mode and mount the /dev/sda1 partition but I had no clue where to find glibc 2.14 to manually copy it for instance... The system has v2.13 and v2.15 is in /var/apt/cache/archive... Havn't found it on internet either. :(
[17:56] <FloodBotK1> Ze_Blob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <Ze_Blob> sorry, not intended.
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Ze_Blob , reboot, choose the recovery kernel , a dialog will eventually appear , choose "repair broken packages" , after the prompt updates and installs the requiresd dependemcies , reboot
[18:05] <Ze_Blob> BluesKaj: unfortunatly as I said it didn't work most of the dpkg and apt command require glibc 2.14 and the rescue mode is all screwed
[18:06] <BluesKaj> try dist-upgrade
[18:06] <Ze_Blob> nothing worked
[18:07] <Ze_Blob> all that i can is mount the system partition from the DVD and chroot it
[18:07] <BluesKaj> chroot-ing doesn't do much
[18:08] <Ze_Blob> and as soon as i try a command in the chrooted env it ask for glibc 2.14
[18:08] <BluesKaj> eveyone thinks it's a fix , it's not magical
[18:09] <Ze_Blob> so i need to temporarily install glibc 2.14 before attempting anything
[18:10] <Ze_Blob> Do you understand ?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> there might be other dependencies , but if you can ... still think the recovery kernel is the way to go
[18:12] <Ze_Blob> the basic binary files seems to all require glibc 2.14 so when i boot with the recovery kernel i cannot do a lot of things if not anything at all
[18:13] <Ze_Blob> The problem is where to find the package of glibc 2.14 ? I can only find v2.15 on the repositories
[18:15] <BluesKaj> Ze_Blob http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10518734/valgrind-doesnt-accept-newest-version-of-glibc
[18:17] <Peace-> BluesKaj: solved
[18:17] <Peace-> BluesKaj: there was a jackd
[18:17] <Peace-> killed => flash sounds
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Peace- without pulseaudio ?
[18:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have pulse audio
[18:22] <BluesKaj> i don't need jack in that case
[18:24] <Charlos> Hello all
[18:24] <Charlos> my pc very old 500 mhz 256 mb ram... this how to make work on install for ubuntu ?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> !xubuntu |Charlos
[18:40] <Charlos> thanks
[18:45] <danielo> I love konqueror
[18:45] <danielo> it is the best web browser :D
[18:51] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[18:51] <phoenix_firebrd> how do i upgrade to from 12.04 to 12.10
[18:52] <DarthFrog> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:52] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: that doesnt work
[18:53] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: Then you've probably got your system set up to only go for LTS versions.
[18:54] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: let me check
[18:55] <DarthFrog> Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.
[18:56] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: you are right, the system is upgrading now, thank you
[18:57] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[21:14] <cooper_> Hey everyone :) I'm looking for a program to sync my music with my iPhone. Do you have any advice? I'm hesited with iTunes via Wine or Rhytmbox :)
[21:15] <cooper_> I'm on kubuntu 12.04
[21:20] <skreech_> Amarok should work
[21:20] <cooper_> I tried but my iPhone is mount as a camera :S
[21:25] <shiretoko> how do I map the super key to the lower left k menu?
[21:25] <shiretoko> alt+f1 doesn't open it either
[21:27] <einseenai> guys, i have installed blueman and awn docks, the thing is there are both gtk apps, and many icons are basically missing. why is that?
[21:28] <einseenai> and what can i do to fix it?
[21:29] <cooper_> shiretoko: I found only my iphone when I check on the available devices :S
[22:17] <epsilonorion> When setting up wireless to autoconnect on boot, it will not connect unless I login, ifdown, and then ifup.  Is there anyway to fix this issue.
[22:17] <epsilonorion> besides simply adding those two commands in the rc.local script
[22:20] <Daskreech> epsilonorion: That's one way
[22:20] <Daskreech> or you can use wicd
[22:28] <epsilonorion> Daskreech: I didn't add that I am doing this all through terminal.
[22:28] <Daskreech> epsilonorion: that's fine. are you comfortable with terminal?
[22:29] <epsilonorion> yep
[22:29] <epsilonorion> just didn't know if wicd had a terminal interface
[22:29] <epsilonorion> or just GUI (Gnome)
[22:30] <Daskreech> far as I know it's a backend
[22:30] <Daskreech> It's used on servers that have a wifi interface so i can't imagine that it would be require something as bulky as GNOME
[22:31] <epsilonorion> thats good, using it on a robot
[22:31] <epsilonorion> I will check it out and see how to use it in this case
[22:32] <Daskreech> ok great :)
[22:32] <Daskreech> WOuld be nice to have Ubuntu robot distros
[22:34] <epsilonorion> I agree
[22:34] <epsilonorion> instead have to use server
[22:37] <Daskreech> server is pretty good
[22:37] <Daskreech> you could do ubuntu-minimal and then build up from there
[22:38] <epsilonorion> when I have more time I will, server just fits the "quick" bill
[22:45] <Daskreech> Yep
[23:57] <doctorpepper> hi guys!
[23:58] <doctorpepper> is there a way  to  have connected removable drives displayed on the desktop