[00:25] <ludlow> Hello. Anyone there?
[00:27] <ludlow> Hello
[00:27] <Unit193> Yes?
[00:27] <Unit193> !ask
[00:28] <ludlow> ok thaks
[00:28] <ludlow> @ask
[00:28] <ludlow> Does anyone know how ot remove a dead icon from the application menu?
[00:29] <Unit193> If you uninstall a program, it should remove its icon as well.  /usr/share/applications/ is where they all are though.
[00:29] <ludlow> Unit193, ok thanks. I will look there
[00:30] <ludlow> Unit193, the app has been removed by the icon is still present on the app menu
[00:30] <Unit193> Very odd, what one?
[00:30] <ludlow> gnumeric
[00:30] <Unit193> What'd you use to uninstall?
[00:31] <Unit193> Can you try opening synaptic, finding it, and hitting remove completely?
[00:31] <ludlow> ok let me try that first before deleting the .desktop
[00:33] <ludlow> Unit193, that did it. I guess when I did the command-line apt-get remove gnumeric it didnt remove all of is components
[00:34] <ludlow> kewl. thanks
[00:34] <Unit193> apt-get purge is the same as above.
[00:34] <ludlow> strange didnt remove it all for some reason?
[00:35] <ludlow> thanks for the help
[00:35] <Unit193> Sure.
[11:08] <average_guy> How do I lower my color depth to 16 in lubuntu 12.04?
[11:09] <bioterror> I think your color depth is atm. 24bits
[11:09] <bioterror> technically that's done from the xorg.conf
[11:09] <average_guy> where is xorg.conf located?
[11:09] <bioterror> by default it's not
[11:10] <average_guy> Ah.. now it all becomes clear
[11:10] <bioterror> it's done by the evdev and KMS handles it ;)
[11:10] <average_guy> I see
[11:10] <average_guy> thx
[11:10] <bioterror> hey
[11:10] <bioterror> one question
[11:11] <bioterror> why you want to lower your color depth?
[11:11] <average_guy> 300MHz machine
[11:11] <bioterror> and?
[11:11] <average_guy> trying to bring up resolution
[11:11] <bioterror> colors are dealth by the graphics card
[11:11] <bioterror> okay
[11:11] <bioterror> do you have 800x600 resolution now?
[11:12] <bioterror> and if you lower it to 16bit, you get 1024x768?
[11:12] <average_guy> yes
[11:12] <bioterror> okay
[11:12] <bioterror> that makes sense
[11:12] <average_guy> that is my hope
[11:12] <bioterror> first what you have to do is:
[11:12] <bioterror> ctrl+alt+f1 (log into TTY)
[11:12] <bioterror> then you stop your lightdm
[11:12] <bioterror> command is: sudo service lightdm stop
[11:13] <bioterror> next you configure Xorg
[11:13] <bioterror> command is: Xorg -configure
[11:13] <bioterror> then you move the generated config file to proper place
[11:13] <bioterror> sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:14] <bioterror> and now you can edit it: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:14] <bioterror> after you have done all the needed tweaking, you can start lightdm again with the command: sudo service lightdm start
[11:14] <average_guy> awesome
[11:14] <average_guy> the box is next to me.  Gunna give it a shot
[11:22] <average_guy> it did not work correctly bioterror
[11:22] <average_guy> the Xorg -configure
[11:22] <average_guy> gave an error
[11:22] <bioterror> how so
[11:22] <bioterror> what kind of error?
[11:22] <average_guy> something about number of screens did not match
[11:22] <average_guy> it ran though
[11:23] <bioterror> you got xorg.conf.new?
[11:23] <average_guy> and there is a .conf file now
[11:23] <bioterror> yeah
[11:23] <bioterror> try it out
[11:23] <bioterror> ;)
[11:24] <average_guy> it needs to be rebooted?
[11:24] <bioterror> no
[11:25] <average_guy> well when I restarted lightdm nothing had changed
[11:25] <average_guy> I may need to manually raise the rez
[11:26] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Monitor_or_Screens
[11:26] <bioterror> there you have this guide
[11:26] <bioterror> you have Depth and Modes
[11:26] <bioterror> change Depth to 16 and modes to 1024x768
[11:27] <average_guy> cool
[11:31] <average_guy> my xorg.conf file has 3 different "screen" sections
[11:31] <average_guy> screen0, screen1, screen2
[11:31] <average_guy> why?
[11:35] <bioterror> hard to say :D
[11:35] <bioterror> you should have only one
[11:36] <bioterror> but that's what i'm trying to get, as I have three displays lying on my bedrooms floor ;)
[11:38] <average_guy> you want a triple monitor system?
[11:39] <average_guy> crazy
[11:39] <bioterror> yeah
[14:21] <gld1982ltd> is anyone using lxmenueditor (lxmed)?
[14:37] <manofme> hello can i install lubuntu on hdd and grub on usb flash drive so when i boot from usb it run linux and other it run windows?
[14:39] <holstein> manofme: i would use a live CD with gparted to prepare the windows partition if i needed it to be shrinked down.. i would then get an alternate install cd, and choose the destinations as needed.. install to whatever hard driver, and put grub where ever
[14:43] <manofme>  well i have alredy prepaired partitions with gparted so i want to know would installing it on hdd damange windows boot loader.
[14:44] <holstein> manofme: what is the goal?... you can always use the alternate cd and put grub where you choose.. you can always restore grub to whatever location using the live CD. you can always recover the windows bootloader
[14:44] <holstein> i would just refer to how to recover the windwos boot loader, since that can always "break" and its good to understand what is going on
[14:45] <holstein> grub will only do what you ask.. you can install linux or ubuntu or lubuntu where you want, and put grub where ever you choose, or literally no where
[14:46] <holstein> i used to install to SD cards and USB stick on my old EEE, and put grub right on the SD card or USB stick... i would choose the device from the bios and boot as needed
[14:48] <manofme> my goal is that windows boot normaly but when booting from usb run linux. i have no space on usb for full installation so i want to
[14:49] <manofme> install grub on flash
[14:50] <holstein> manofme: you can literally install grub where you choose... i would suggest the alternate install CD.. i find it easier to specify... (/dev/sdb or whtatever)
[14:51] <manofme> will it work if i choos /dev/sdc below under device for bootloader installation?
[14:51] <holstein> manofme: you can literally put it where you choose
[14:52] <manofme> ok thanks.
[14:52] <holstein> manofme: can you select that device and boot it from you bios or some other method on your machine? i do not know that
[14:52] <leszek> hi
[16:54] <alek66> Hi everyone, I want to switch from ubuntu to Lubuntu, I have it already installed and working with some services running (timemachine, netatalk, ps3media server) Is there a clean way to do this?
[16:56] <leszek> alek66: just install lubuntu-desktop this will install everything necessary to run lubuntu
[16:56] <holstein> lubuntu is not running those services by default, so you'll need to configure whatever differences you want from the default lubuntu configuration
[16:57] <holstein> just as you would need to to with ubuntu, or any other distro
[16:57] <alek66> great thanks+
[16:58] <alek66> will let you know how it went
[16:58] <alek66> luckly is a fresh install... I am allow to breakit in the worst case
[17:00] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why can't I covert a file in WinFF?  I get this, but Ido not know how to fix it, like, I want to be able to change the resolution to my little phone of 320x240 or less, Where do I tweak it?
[17:01] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/x10UEdiC
[17:02] <leszek> Osmodivs: videocodec really h263 ?
[17:02] <holstein> Osmodivs: did you try avconv ?
[17:02] <Osmodivs> holstein: Well, I do not know about that, I know is a low res .avi
[17:04] <Osmodivs> I was just copying and paste from a tutorila on the Net, I do not know nothing about codecs asnd stuff
[17:04] <leszek> Osmodivs: try h264 instead
[17:04] <leszek> as videocodec
[17:07] <Osmodivs> leszek: Unknown encoder 'h264'
[17:07] <leszek> then your are missing a codec
[17:08] <leszek> try it with libx264 instead
[17:08] <leszek> btw. ffmpeg -codecs will show you all available Codecs in a nice little list if you execute it under lxterminal
[17:09] <leszek> bbl
[17:38] <Osmodivs> This is my video info: Aphex Twin.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 640 x 480, >30 fps, video: Microsoft MPEG-4 v3, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 44100 Hz)
[17:38] <Osmodivs>  How can I convert it to .3gp using ffmpeg?
[17:39] <Osmodivs> I want to convert it to a  320x240 or less video for a Nokia c3 mobile phone
[17:39] <holstein> https://www.linux.com/community/forums/multimedia/video-converter-for-ubuntu/limit/20/offset/0
[17:40] <holstein> ive heard great things about handbrake http://handbrake.fr/?article=download
[17:40] <gld1982ltd> i have installed it, but not used it yet.
[17:41] <gld1982ltd> it looks great from my quik skim through.
[17:46] <bioterror> handbrake is nice
[17:59] <Osmodivs> Downloading
[18:08] <Osmodivs> HANDBRAKE  does not have a .3gp 0ption
[18:09] <holstein> Osmodivs: i wouldnt expect to see a button thats going to make a file for your phone.. i would expect to find a file format your phone can read
[18:09] <Osmodivs> holstein: Well, my phone can only read 3gp. I want to see a video .avi in my phone, Is it possible?
[18:10] <bioterror> ffmpeg -i inputfile.avi -s qcif -vcodec h263 -acodec aac -ac 1 -ar 8000 -r 25 -ab 32 -y outputfile.3gp
[18:10] <gld1982ltd> Osmodivs: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/
[18:10] <bioterror> I spent 30seconds with google
[18:10] <holstein> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/7911/i-need-a-handbrake-preset-for-a-samsung-gt-i5500-europa-please
[18:10] <gld1982ltd> lol
[18:10] <gld1982ltd> me too
[18:10] <gld1982ltd> online converter - http://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-3gp
[18:11] <holstein> NICE... i like the online options... automatially cross platform :)
[18:11] <Osmodivs> I have already tried those links before, they do not work
[18:12] <holstein> Osmodivs: in what way?
[18:12] <Osmodivs> [h263 @ 0xa47f00] Invalid pixel aspect ratio 1323/968, limit is 255/255
[18:12] <holstein> Osmodivs: and the online option?
[18:12] <Osmodivs> How do I rezise the video, or How do I do it so I do not have that error message
[18:13] <holstein> i remember doing this ages ago for an LG flip phone... it took 6 or so hours to convert and was so tiny on the phone, i decided it wasnt worth the hassle
[18:13] <Osmodivs> holstein: Well, Online may work, I just wanted to have it as a preset
[18:14] <holstein> Osmodivs: i would try getting one.. and look at it...
[18:18] <gld1982ltd1> sorry, i got disconnected. did you try the online converter, Osmodivs?
[18:19] <holstein> gld1982ltd1: wants to have a preset button to do it everytime
[18:29] <gld1982ltd1> ahh, i see. that should be easy enough once he gets the ffmpeg command right.
[18:29] <gld1982ltd1> unless he is a she.....then sorry.
[18:30] <gld1982ltd1> Osmodivs: what is teh error you are getting?
[18:41] <Osmodivs> gld1982ltd1: This is the error output http://pastebin.com/x10UEdiC
[18:45] <gld1982ltd1> have you tried mencoder? mencoder yourmovie.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o yourmovie.3gp
[18:54] <Osmodivs> gld1982ltd1: Online is to hard for my low bandwith, mencoder at least is doing something... I do not know though... where the result is:      Flushing video frames. Writing index... Writing header... ODML: Aspect information not (yet?) available or unspecified, not writing vprp header. Video stream:  678.035 kbit/s  (84754 B/s)  size: 30550584 bytes  360.460 secs  18035 frames  Audio stream:  123.652 kbit/s  (15456 B/s)  size:
[18:55] <gld1982ltd1> Osmodivs: did mencoder finish?
[18:56] <Osmodivs> gld1982ltd1: Yes
[18:56] <Osmodivs> gld1982ltd1:  Ah, Mecoder worked!
[18:58] <gld1982ltd1> awesome! glad i could help!
[18:58] <gld1982ltd1> as for why ffmpeg did not work, that is a quest for you my friend.
[18:59] <leszek> gld1982ltd1: it did not work because for the wrong codec + resolution
[18:59] <leszek> h263 cannot handle such a low resolution: 176x144
[19:01] <gld1982ltd1> ahhh....
[19:02] <leszek> also aac the build in ffmpeg aac is not so flexible like the faac module which works much better
[19:04] <gld1982ltd1> oh....i don't know much about that stuff. i actually found the mencoder command on google. i haven't gotten into video editing and converting......yet.
[19:22] <gld1982ltd1> anyone tried the menu editor for lxde?
[19:31] <gld1982ltd1> wow....got real quiet all of a sudden.
[19:33] <Unit193> It's normally pretty quiet in here and #lubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <bioterror> we only talk if someone gives us a reason to ;)
[19:42] <gld1982ltd1> ahh.....i wanted to know if anyone knows how to package, or wants to join a launchpad team to help package a program.
[19:43] <bioterror> sure we've seen some motu's here :--)
[21:49] <marshall__> hey hey
[21:49] <marshall__> anyone around?
[21:50] <gld1982ltd1> hey
[21:50] <W4sp> Hi marshall__
[21:50] <marshall__> hey
[21:50] <marshall__> all right, so here's the deal
[21:51] <marshall__> i'm connecting my desktop to a new 32" monitor
[21:51] <marshall__> TV, really
[21:52] <marshall__> originally... i was just using LXDE ... when i connected my new TV the font size became incredibly small
[21:52] <marshall__> actually can only read web browsers... so i tried GNOME and XFCE and they worked fine
[21:52] <marshall__> just installed Lubuntu and the text size is larger, but still tiny
[21:52] <marshall__> any ideas?
[21:53] <marshall__> (i have a screenshot)
[21:54] <Unit193> Open lxappearance, or obconf and change the settings in there, or ssh in from another computer and edit ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[21:54] <marshall__> i can ssh, otherwise i can't see
[21:55] <marshall__> i'm not an advanced user by any means.. what exactly am i changing?
[21:55] <Joseph_> hola
[21:55] <marshall__> hi
[21:56] <Joseph_> do u speak english ?
[21:56] <marshall__> si
[21:56] <Unit193> It's an XML file, and you'll want to look for the font section(s)
[21:56] <Joseph_> spanish
[21:56] <Unit193> !es
[21:56] <Unit193> Spanish! :D
[21:57] <Joseph_> gracias ^_^
[21:57] <Unit193> Da nada!
[21:57] <marshall__> Unit193, think you could walk me through it?
[21:57] <Joseph_> tengo un error con el compiz
[21:57] <Joseph_> :P
[21:57] <marshall__> or actually.. do i have to be logged into lubuntu in order for me to make changes?
[21:57] <Unit193> (I don't actually know Spanish.)
[21:58] <marshall__> no tienes espanol, Joseph_
[21:58] <marshall__> wait, entiendo
[21:58] <marshall__> no entiendo
[21:58] <Unit193> marshall__: Actually, try ssh -X hostname    then type   lxappearance    or   obconf
[21:59] <Unit193> ssh -X does xforwarding, so it'll show the application locally.
[21:59] <Joseph_> acabo de instalar lubuntu
[21:59] <marshall__> i'm logged into xfce now.. should i log out and then logback into lubuntu?
[22:00] <Unit193> I'd say so.
[22:00] <marshall__> okay
[22:00] <marshall__> let me get on another comptuer
[22:01] <gld1982ltd1> gtg lubuntu channel.....bye
[22:01] <gld1982ltd1> and thanks
[22:01] <`Marshall> Unit193, can you pm me?
[22:02] <Unit193> I could, but what for?
[22:03] <`Marshall> idk ;(
[22:05] <`Marshall> ok.. just got into lubuntu
[22:07] <Unit193> It's right in the preferences menu.
[22:08] <`Marshall> obconf?
[22:08] <Unit193> Openbox Configuration Manager.
[22:08] <`Marshall> yeah
[22:08] <`Marshall> i changed the font sizes
[22:09] <`Marshall> but it didnt really help
[22:10] <`Marshall> like items in the taskbar, icant read
[22:10] <`Marshall> even when upping the font
[22:12] <`Marshall> although, the terminal says "failed" when i make changes
[22:13] <`Marshall> although, the terminal says "failed" when i make changes
[22:20] <`Marshall> Unit193, any ideas?
[22:23] <Unit193> Well, the settings are in there and I've edited them for someone that has bad eyesight.
[22:24] <`Marshall> but the settings arent changing the font that i'm having issues with
[22:25] <`Marshall> like i said, no problem with gnome or xfce
[22:25] <`Marshall> :(
[22:25] <W4sp> `Marshall: Did you try a different font? Just for the heck of it?
[22:25] <`Marshall> W4sp, yeah
[22:25] <`Marshall> i tried a few
[22:25] <`Marshall> although... the font size _did_ help on a few things, title bars and such
[22:26] <`Marshall> let me take a new screenshot..
[22:26] <W4sp> I have been briefly disconnected and some parts of your conversation have slipped my radar.
[22:26] <W4sp> `Marshall: Unit193 's advice is correct. Let's see what the screenshot reveals.
[22:28] <`Marshall> k
[22:28] <`Marshall> one min
[22:28] <`Marshall> gotta uploaf
[22:28] <`Marshall> upload
[22:30] <`Marshall> thanks for the help guys, btw
[22:31] <`Marshall> here's the problem from last night... slightly better using Lubuntu and then even better using Unit193's avdvice
[22:31] <`Marshall> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/helpme22.png/
[22:33] <W4sp> `Marshall: OK, Are you happy with the font size withim Chromium?
[22:33] <`Marshall> yeah
[22:34] <`Marshall> uploading new screenshot today
[22:34] <W4sp> `Marshall: Is the xchat font too small?
[22:34] <`Marshall> *from today
[22:34] <`Marshall> extremely too small
[22:35] <W4sp> `Marshall: Marshall, you can specify x-chat to use the desktop environment settings. However, that's not going to help you here as you use openbox.
[22:36] <`Marshall> okay, here's what i'm doing today
[22:36] <`Marshall> http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2789/toosmall0813.png
[22:36] <`Marshall> notice the clock in the bottom right, xchat, desktop icons
[22:36] <W4sp> `Marshall: What you require is Xdefaults or Xsession settings as x-chat does not read from the XML file. May Unit193 correct me if I'm wrong.
[22:37] <`Marshall> also, see the text on the taskbar?
[22:40] <Unit193> Not used xchat, but I'd say the settings would have to be changed in there.
[22:40] <W4sp> `Marshall: Yes, far too small. I cannot comment ot the status bar as of yet.
[22:42] <W4sp> `Marshall: Do you have .xinitrc or .xsession in your ~/ ?
[22:42] <marshall__> i can check
[22:42] <marshall__> also, bumped up the font on xchat... i can see better now
[22:42] <marshall__> but.. the channel selector at the top are still small
[22:43] <W4sp> `Marshall: I am wrong. It isn't .xinitrc, it's Xdefaults. :-(
[22:43] <marshall__> W4sp, no i don't have those files
[22:43] <marshall__> i dont have that either :(
[22:44] <marshall__> dumb question... why isn't there a problem with the other desktop managers
[22:44] <marshall__> ?
[22:47] <W4sp> `Marshall: That's a shame. I don't have it either on the current system, I would otherwise assist you further. The principle is that the file is read by your DE on startup or with xrdb -merge or -load or -override
[22:47] <marshall__> where can i get it? O.o
[22:48] <W4sp> `Marshall: Ask the author. ;-) You can certainly get mine but there are better examples on the net I suppose.
[22:49] <marshall__> oh you mean for xchat?
[22:49] <W4sp> `Marshall: marshall__ Did you change your nick? Confused.
[22:49] <marshall__> two computers
[22:49] <W4sp> marshall__: For openbox.
[22:50] <marshall__> W4sp, when i installed lubuntu it asked me which WM to use and i chose "LXDE"
[22:51] <marshall__> is that not the same as what you're talking about?
[22:51] <W4sp> It is an overlall trend that everyone uses it's own stuff and rc structure. Besides, I would rather stick needles in my eyes than to make a DE with XML and INI.
[22:51] <W4sp> I thought you have a different DE.
[22:51] <marshall__> so it's still based off of openbox?
[22:52] <W4sp> Anyway, it doesn't matter. x-chat looks into Xresources or Xdefaults.
[22:52] <marshall__> i have GNOME, LXDE, XFCE, and now Lubuntu
[22:52] <marshall__> i see
[22:52] <marshall__> xchat is at least usable now
[22:52] <marshall__> what can i do about the taskbar and clock?
[22:53] <marshall__> and desktop icons
[22:54] <W4sp> It's like this.. in Xdefaults you have xchat*font: 16 or something like that.
[22:55] <kanliot> xchat-gnome works for me, lets you choose font
[22:56] <W4sp> marshall__: For you icons I can't help and for your status bar I simply don't know. That's probably in the documentation.
[22:56] <marshall__> kanliot, me too. just the channel switcher is too small for me now
[22:56] <W4sp> marshall__: See, there's help from kanliot .
[22:57] <marshall__> xchat - 99% fixed
[22:57] <kanliot> xchat-gnome is a differnt app than xchat
[22:57] <marshall__> the other issues, not being able to see into menus, clock, taskbar, desktop, etc are more pressing
[22:59] <W4sp> marshall__: How do you mean 'see into menues...'?
[23:00] <marshall__> the menus, such as the "start" button equivalent... i can't see the items. almost all of my text is too small to see
[23:00] <marshall__> and when i open terminal
[23:00] <marshall__> it's too small to see
[23:00] <W4sp> marshall__: For Terminal... Do you use xterm?
[23:01] <marshall__> i have xterm, uxterm and terminal (gnome)
[23:02] <marshall__> but even after changing the font size, it's still too small. it's just not as smooth as other DEs
[23:02] <marshall__> although, before i switched to this monitor...everything was fine
[23:02] <marshall__> everything as in, LXDE
[23:03] <W4sp> OK, let's do a minor check on your xchat so we get that one sorted out. Do you have xprop installed?
[23:04] <marshall__> not that i'm aware of.. not sure what that is
[23:04] <marshall__> (or how to find out)
[23:04] <marshall__> not sure if you were around before, W4sp, but i'm a big dumb newbie :P
[23:04] <W4sp> marshall__: OK, in xterm type xprop
[23:05] <W4sp> Up comes tiny cross. Click into x-chat. The xterm will give you some output. That's vital inforamtion.
[23:05] <marshall__> turned into a crosshair and loaded a lot of info...so i assume it worked
[23:05] <W4sp> OK, did you click into xchat?
[23:06] <marshall__> yes
[23:07] <W4sp> Good. Somewhere it tells you if it uses .Xdefaults, doesn't it?
[23:07] <marshall__> checkign
[23:09] <marshall__> W4sp, no idea
[23:10] <marshall__> kind of hard to read
[23:10] <marshall__> any idea where it would be?
[23:13] <W4sp> marshall__: Well, the output is not too difficult to read. Given we didn't fix your terminal yet it probably is. :-(
[23:13] <marshall__> i got an idea
[23:13] <marshall__> copying/pasting terminal results into xchat
[23:13] <W4sp> I would just try .Xdefaults in your home directory. That's the key to get your xterm and xchat working.
[23:14] <marshall__> xchat is 99% fine
[23:14] <W4sp> marshall__: Don't, please. That's flooding. We have pastebin for that/
[23:14] <W4sp> !flood
[23:14] <marshall__> only issue is the channel selector is small
[23:14] <marshall__> readable, but small
[23:15] <marshall__> i was going to paste into a dialog window with myself :P but pastebin works
[23:15] <W4sp> I dont use x-chat, no idea what that is. You can run xchat tabbed or with tree view.
[23:16] <marshall__> yeah my tabs are what's small
[23:17] <marshall__> everything else is fine
[23:17] <marshall__> i was going to open a chat box with myself to paste
[23:17] <marshall__> but... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1145860/
[23:17] <W4sp> I anyway need to go. I think I gave you some ideas on how to fix it (.Xdefaults) as these programs usually read from it. Also, see xrdb above. Re. icon size I'm pessimistic as it requires larger files, though it can be manipulated as well.
[23:18] <marshall__> thank you
[23:20] <W4sp> marshall__: Unfortunately your version does not seem to use it. But I would suggest to give it a try as well. You need to know "xchat" and "Xchat" are the keys.
[23:21] <W4sp> marshall__: Further, LXDE msut have it somewhere documented how to increase the menu fonts.
[23:21] <marshall__> ok :)
[23:21] <marshall__> i'll see if i can get help from those guys
[23:21] <W4sp> marshall__: As for xterm the keys are XTerm and xterm.
[23:22] <marshall__> ty
[23:22] <W4sp> That would be it from me for the time being. I will see what I can figure out re. openbox/lxde
[23:22] <marshall__> awesome
[23:22] <marshall__> i appreciate it
[23:42] <Ahmuck> hi.  i have lubuntu but no audio.  any help would be appreciated.
[23:52] <kanliot> have you tried alsamixer?
[23:52] <Ahmuck> yep
[23:54] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[23:54] <kanliot> also, how many sound devices do you have?
[23:54] <kanliot> what are they?