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ESphynxSundays *are* quiet in here =)02:20
LordOfTimequietish everywhere :P02:21
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ESphynxWell I think I solved our GCC 4.7 issues =)04:39
dholbachgood morning07:08
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iulianMorning dholbach.07:49
dholbachhi iulian09:58
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rajucoolbhavi,  yeah now its cool14:09
coolbhavi:)14:09
rajucoolbhavi,  how are you feeling ??14:11
coolbhaviraju, pm please14:11
rajucoolbhavi,14:11
rajucool14:11
ralHi14:38
ralI'm trying to maintain a library symbols file.14:39
ralBut dpkg-gensymbols keeps adding the version from debian/changelog rather than allowing the upstream version, which I thought was the intent.14:39
xnoxral: C++ or C?14:40
ralC14:40
xnoxral: dpkg-gensymbols generates with "current" debian/changelog version because it doesn't know upstream symbol vs symbol introduced in a debian patch14:40
ralSo "foo@VERS_1.0 1.0" changes to "foo@VERS_1.0 1.0-0~ppa1"14:40
Laneythat's quite normal, you need to manually apply the diff that gensymbols gives you and edit the symbols file to remove the debian part of the version14:40
ralLaney: Ah, I've missed out a step.14:41
ralI did that, but the actual problem is that I get lintian errors when the package is built.14:42
ralSaying that the symbols have changed, you have 1.0, but should have 1.0-0~ppa1.14:42
xnoxyou might not have added the symbols file correctly to the packaging14:42
xnoxor there are extra symbols on different architecture14:43
xnoxe.g. amd64 and x86 can have different symbols14:43
dupondjeanyone with experience with reprepro?14:44
ralxnox: Possible, but I doubt it. I'm updating packaging that used to work rather than starting from scratch (although the SO version has bumped so they are new package names)14:44
xnoxand you renamed the pkg.symbols -> pkg-1.1.symbols?14:44
ralAnd this is all just on my local machine so I've not even got to possible architecture errors yet :)14:44
xnoxand other similar files? =)))14:45
ralpkg0.symbols -> pkg1.symbols14:45
ralI think so, but it's worth checking.14:45
dobeyhey all. any chance to get a little traction on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1035392 ?14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035392 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] u1db" [Wishlist,In progress]14:48
ralxnox: I can't find any trace of the old names.15:01
ESphynx2hey guys :) so I solved our issues building Ecere with GCC 4.7 on Quantal =)16:43
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ralxnox / Laney: Seems to be a bug with dpkg-gensymbols - if change the changelog version number from 1.0-0~ppa1 to 1.0-0ubuntu1 it works. I suspect the ~ is causing problems.17:05
xnoxral: no bug, expected behaviour.17:06
xnox=)17:06
xnoxif the symbol is marked as present in 1.017:06
micahgdobey: if there's some urgency for u1db, you could ask a couple of desktopper core-dev/MOTUs to review for you17:06
xnoxral: than 1.0-0~ppa1 is smaller and hence not "big" enough to include the 1.0 symbols.17:06
xnoxso it warns you that you "backported" symbols into the past =)17:07
xnoxral: I suspect that 1.0-1~ppa1 might be "big" enough to have 1.0 symbols17:07
ralxnox: Right17:08
ralCounter intuitive, but dpkg agrees with you.17:08
ralI didn't realise that ~ was that powerful.17:08
ESphynx2jtaylor: around by any chance? ;)17:08
xnoxral: well -0~17:09
xnoxral: so you are saying that it's smaller than -0 debian release of upstream, hence it's "bigger" than 0.0~bla-0 but still smaller than 0.017:10
ralI would still expect 1.0(anything here) to be > 1.017:13
ralBut that's beside the point.17:14
ralIt works with a "proper" version number for debian/ubuntu, and ppas don't care about lintian.17:14
ESphynx2Anyone willing to review our cross-plaform SDK for wishful inclusion into Quantal? =)17:14
ralThanks for your help.17:14
tumbleweedral: dpkg --compare-versions '1.0-0~' lt '1.0' && echo yes17:16
tumbleweedit's not beside the point at all :)17:16
xnoxral: see debian policy with respect of meaning of ~ and +17:21
xnoxral: we are bending the rules of mathematics by using limits and negative/positive zeros17:21
raltumbleweed: It's beside the point that I expected 1.0(anything) to be > 1.0. I'm not disagreeing that I'm wrong! :)17:46
xnoxral: yet you do want to package alpha, beta, rc, snapshots, before 1.0 is actually tagged and released! =)17:57
ESphynx2So guys, how would I go about finding a reviewer?18:53
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xnoxESphynx2: subscribe sponsors to the merge proposal or but report18:54
ESphynx2sponsors being? a group id thing, or actual people?18:54
xnoxESphynx2: ~ubuntu-sponsors18:55
ESphynx2Ohh! awesome Mantis support on Launchpad!18:57
ESphynx2xnox: Thanks... that's done :)19:00
ESphynx2xnox: is there any faint hope of finding a sponsor before the feature freeze? ;)19:08
xnoxESphynx2: depends what for. What's the package / bug?19:11
ESphynx2xnox: Ecere is a cross platform SDK...  Light yet powerful/flexible, cross platform GUI toolkit, compiling tools for the eC language, network/system library, it's a full fledged media library comparable to SDL or SDFL, and an IDE for C/C++/eC ...19:13
ESphynx2SFML*19:14
xnoxESphynx2: i wanted URL, not package description =)19:14
ESphynx2xnox: ahh...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecere/+bug/39499819:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394998 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ecere-sdk -- cross-platform developer toolkit" [Wishlist,In progress]19:14
ESphynx2Reported by Ryan Prior on 2009-07-02 :|19:14
ESphynx2I was hoping 2012.10 was the time :P with the end of the mayan calendar and all ;)19:15
xnoxDid you mean to add a URL to the .dsc and or attach a packaging branch to the bug report?19:15
xnoxcause without either of those, there is nothing to sponsor. So sponsors team will be unsubscribed with a comment19:15
ESphynx2xnox: Hmm... well we've got a PPA...19:15
xnox"this bug report has nothing to sponsor"19:16
ESphynx2ugg19:16
xnoxit's just a packaging request19:16
ESphynx2xnox: how am I meant to do this?19:16
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xnoxESphynx2: create a debian source package suitable for inclusion into debian/ubuntu19:17
ESphynx2xnox: The PPA is @ https://code.launchpad.net/~jerstlouis/+recipe/ecere-daily-precise ... I just need to merge dev into master and rebuild19:17
xnoxand upload it into a ppa, or just any plain http:// ftp:// hosting19:17
xnoxESphynx2: ergh.... a daily build is not good enough.19:17
ESphynx2It is in a PPA... our PPA has been running since 2009...19:17
xnoxyou need to use correct version string for the distribution and a released tarball.19:18
ESphynx2xnox: ok... so it should be a specific version?19:18
ESphynx2Should the version string have a particular format?19:19
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xnoxESphynx2: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/19:23
ESphynx2xnox: The daily builds already have all the .dsc and everything...19:23
ESphynx2xnox: Can I build it using Launchpad packaging recipes?19:25
ESphynx2Is it that the changelog should say something specific about Quantal? Or it's just the deb-version thing that must be set properly?19:28
dobeyESphynx2: ideally, you'd attach the .dsc and stuff for a released version, to the bug report. not use recipes or daily builds19:28
dobeyESphynx2: more like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1035392 for example19:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035392 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] u1db" [Wishlist,In progress]19:29
ESphynx2dobey: But Launchpad recipes produce .dsc ...19:29
ESphynx2Which I could then attach, right?19:29
dobeylaunchpad recipes produce a changelog which says "automated build" which is not acceptable19:30
dobeyyou need a proper changelog entry19:31
ESphynx2isn't that the changelog in debian/ ?19:31
ESphynx2Could someone with a bit more Ubuntu packaging familiarity be willing to assist me with this?19:31
dobeyyes19:31
dobey(yse i mean the debian/changelog file)19:32
ESphynx2I wrote a changelog entry in debian, under our ppa/precise branch19:32
ESphynx2I thought that's what get used by the automated build19:32
ESphynx2https://github.com/ecere/sdk/blob/ppa/precise/debian/changelog19:32
dobeyESphynx2: lp recipes adds a new entry with the proper changes to the version and series info, for uploading to the ppa. and this new changelog entry simply says "* Automated build."19:33
ESphynx2ok...19:33
dobeyor "* Auto build." rather19:33
ESphynx2so I need to manually run debuild (is it?)19:34
dobeyyes19:34
ESphynx2And what should changelog say, version wise , to be proper?19:34
ESphynx2"correct version string for the distribution " ?19:34
ESphynx2and what's this urgency about ? does it have to saw low?19:35
dobeyprobably just "* Initial packaing of $package for Ubuntu." or something, if it's not already packaged in debian19:35
dobeyyou should probably just always leave urgency=low there19:35
ESphynx2ok... and at the top the version string19:35
ESphynx2that'd be ok what I currently have ?19:36
dobeyno. it would need to be 0.44.01-0ubuntu1 for example19:36
dobeyunless you're building it as a native package, which isn't really advisable19:37
ESphynx2$package -- did you mean that as is? or should I replace that?19:38
ESphynx2what's a native package?19:38
ESphynx2So... 0.44.01-0ubuntu1 quantal; urgency=low   ?19:39
ESphynx2* Initial packing of Ecere SDK for Ubuntu.  (LP: #394998) -- should the bug ID be there?19:39
dobeyyes the bug id should be there19:40
ESphynx2and I should replace $package by say, Ecere SDK ?19:41
dobeya native package is where the releases are only done into the package, and you just have the version number without any build numbers19:41
dobeyand given the description of what ecere is, that doesn't seem to be anywhere near appropriate for you19:41
dobeyit also makes it a pain for people to contribute to the packaging19:41
dobeyyes, $package was a pseudocode-variable19:42
ESphynx2ok... well i have the packaging on ppa/precise branch in github...19:42
ESphynx2dobey: https://github.com/ecere/sdk/blob/ppa/precise/debian/changelog -- looking good?19:43
xnoxESphynx2: i posted a quick review of the PPA source package19:44
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ecere/+bug/394998/comments/219:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394998 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ecere-sdk -- cross-platform developer toolkit" [Wishlist,In progress]19:44
xnoxthere are at least 7 serious bugs with the source package19:44
ESphynx2xnox: What did you try to build?19:45
xnoxecere_201208122348-0~580~precise1.dsc19:46
ESphynx2I just pushed the fix for it to build with GCC 4.719:46
xnoxESphynx2: it didn't even start clean the package19:46
ESphynx2xnox: sorry, I was saying have to wait till the build bot builds it19:46
ESphynx2xnox: that's the one that isn't building19:46
xnoxso way before gcc4.7 is ever envoked19:46
ESphynx2hmm ?19:46
xnoxdh build19:47
xnoxdh: No packages to build.19:47
xnoxdpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-genchanges gave error exit status 219:47
ESphynx2xnox: How would the PPA bots build it then?19:47
xnoxthey didn't19:47
xnoxbuild it on amd64 at all....19:48
ESphynx2xnox: It only builds as 32 bit19:48
xnoxwhy?19:48
ESphynx2you can run it as 32 bit on 64 bit machine19:48
ESphynx2because we don't have 64 bit support yet19:48
xnoxso19:48
xnoxyou should.19:48
ESphynx2I should...?19:48
xnoxand even if you don't have 64 bit support, packages should not be all marked as i386, some of them should be marked as `all`19:49
xnoxESphynx2: "the package should be patched/ported to support 64 bit"19:49
xnoxcurrently in Ubuntu we widely support 5 architectures: amel, armhf, i386, amd64 and powerpc19:50
ESphynx2xnox: there is major work involved into supporting 64 bit19:50
xnoxin Debian we have 12 architectures19:50
ESphynx2it is planned.19:50
xnoxarmel and armhf are 32 bit19:50
ESphynx2but right now it doesn't...19:50
xnoxyet you excluded them19:50
ESphynx2well I've never tested on those yet :)19:51
ESphynx2xnox: The library DOES link against system wide libpng, zlib, etc.; the sources of other libraries are included for the convenience for building on Windows.19:52
ESphynx2well I updated the debian/copyright, 'cuz it was quite off...19:58
ESphynx2https://github.com/ecere/sdk/commit/534ea0c1bcbec7b1ea7dbff32b575a34d7fc6c92 -- would that be ok xnox ?19:59
ESphynx2sorry, https://raw.github.com/ecere/sdk/ppa/precise/debian/copyright19:59
ESphynx2thanks for the review xnox  :)20:08
xnoxESphynx2: debian archive auto-rejects source packages if it detects included copy of zlib20:15
ESphynx2So what are the odds of the package being accepted before we have native 64 bit support?20:16
xnoxit still should build for: any !amd64 !powerpc6420:16
xnoxfor example to include other 32 bit platforms20:16
xnoxthe included libaries must be stripped from the tarball20:16
ESphynx2how could I work around this? I want zlib to be included when downloading the tarball so it builds on Windows easily...20:16
ESphynx2so the upstream tarball will automatically have it, which step could strip it down?20:17
xnoxas a debian maintainer, you should ask upstream to either publish a source only tarball20:17
micahghrm, I don't think we need a repack unless it's not DFSG20:17
xnoxor alternatively the debian maintainer repackages the tarball to make it DFSG20:17
ESphynx2I'm the author btw...20:17
xnoxESphynx2: i know, I am just being explicit =) you will have to "double up"20:18
ESphynx2So when I build the .dsc I strip it down :)20:18
xnoxmicahg: what about zlib auto-reject then?20:18
xnoxin Debian.20:18
ESphynx2xnox: Should I put [amel] [armhf] [i386] ?20:18
ESphynx2or is there a [!amd64] [!powerpc64] ?20:19
ESphynx2I'm just worried about breaking all the other builds...20:19
xnoxESphynx2: upstreams usually develop on a small amount of systems. Distributions often have wider access to differnt architectures.20:21
ESphynx2right. e.g. I have no clue what amel or armhf are :P20:22
xnoxso we strike to build for all arches, if they fail to build from source, it's fine, since it will not be published for the users20:22
ESphynx2armhf is that what the raspberry pi has/20:22
xnoxESphynx2: armel is ARM v5 CPU, and armhf is newer ARM v7 CPU20:22
ESphynx2ah ok... both arm platform20:22
xnoxESphynx2: raspberry pi is armel, panda boards and android phones are ARM v7 / armhf20:22
ESphynx2well it's been built before on ARM and PPC , with a certain level of success.20:23
ESphynx2I've just been told before to put [i386] in there so that the PPA bots don't attempt to build for AMD64 and fail...20:24
micahgxnox: raspberry pi is armv6...20:25
tumbleweedand capable of HF20:25
micahgxnox: and I'm not familiar with that auto reject (can't seem to find it listed)20:25
ESphynx2oh, so no need to the github tarball can be used? =)20:28
ESphynx2I mean no need to tweak it*20:28
xnoxmicahg: non-fatal  -embedded-library20:32
xnoxhttp://ftp-master.debian.org/static/lintian.tags20:32
micahgxnox: right, non-fatal :), if it's not used I thought it's file as long as it's DFSG distributable in source form20:33
micahgs/file/fine/20:33
ESphynx2micahg: ah great :)20:39
ESphynx2So you guys have suggestions about what I should put to address the ARM platform issue xnox brought up?20:39
ESphynx2I'd happily do I can to make it compliant but I would really appreciate a little hand-holding given the fact that I'm trying to be maintainer while being the upstream author, and otherwise fully busy with work and life :)20:41
micahgESphynx2: I'd do the ! as xnox suggested if it'll build on all 32 bit platforms20:42
ESphynx2micahg: so that would be [!amd64] [!powerpc64] ? or [!amd64 | !powerpc64] or ...20:43
micahgESphynx2: just a straight list should be fine !amd64 !powerpc64 (and whatever archs in Debian if you upload there as well)20:44
ESphynx2with [ ] around?20:44
ESphynx2[!amd64] [!powerpc64] ?20:44
micahgno20:44
micahghttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Architecture20:44
micahg"In the main debian/control file in the source package, this field may contain the special value all, the special architecture wildcard any, or a list of specific and wildcard architectures separated by spaces. If all or any appears, that value must be the entire contents of the field. Most packages will use either all or any. "20:45
ESphynx2ahhh sorry20:45
ESphynx2I was confusing with the dependencies.20:45
ESphynx2architecture specific dependencies...20:45
ESphynx2samples, doc, extras... I used to have 'all' there for Natty,  but that would break things on Precise because the other packages didn't support amd6420:47
gld1982ltd1hi all MOTU....does anyone have a sec to help me package an app?20:48
micahgESphynx2: no, you should use multiarch then to solve that problem20:48
gld1982ltd1or more specifically, check to see if i am on the right track?20:49
gld1982ltd1i have the branch on launchpad.20:49
ESphynx2micahg: right with Precise now I'm using multiarch (that's why I only built for i386)20:49
micahgESphynx2: right, but arch:all should be fine where appropriate20:49
ESphynx2so if I have !amd64 !powerpc64 with the binaries, all should be fine?20:49
micahgESphynx2: and use all where it's architecture independent20:50
ESphynx2great. thanks. updating that... adding the thing for the  ${misc:Depends} as well...20:50
ralgld1982ltd1: Best bet is to post the link to the branch.20:51
ESphynx2native-package-with-dash-version -- This would go away once I build it myself instead of with the autobuild , right?20:52
micahgESphynx2: what's debian/source/format say?20:53
micahgand do you have an .orig.tar.{gz,bz2,xz} that you're using20:53
ESphynx2is that supposed to be a file?20:53
ESphynx2micahg: xnox just used the automated .dsc file built by our PPA on launchpad for preliminary reviewing20:54
micahgdebian/source/format is supposed to be a file, yes20:54
ESphynx2I do not have a debian/source/ folder ...20:54
ESphynx2well unless that gets created by the debuilder ?20:54
gld1982ltd1https://code.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing20:54
micahgESphynx2: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/missing-debian-source-format.html20:55
xnoxmicahg: it's a daily ppa build which merges branches, creates native tarball, and has a version number $date-0~$revno20:55
xnox=/20:55
micahgah, ok20:55
micahgis that because recipes are still broke with 3.0 (quilt)?20:56
ESphynx2The new source package just built (before my packaging tweaks though... but that's the source that will build on Quantal (32 bit))...20:56
gld1982ltd1ral: any suggestions or comments?20:59
ralgld1982ltd1: I'm no motu, but the packaging part looks like a good start. Are you intending to package it for debian/ubuntu or a ppa?21:02
gld1982ltd1for a ppa.21:03
gld1982ltd1then for ubuntu21:03
gld1982ltd1This is the only menu editor i have found tpo work for lxde that doesn't also waqnt to install another desktop environment with it.21:03
ralgld1982ltd1: Your debian/copyright file should also list the copyrights for the source files, not just the packaged files.21:06
ralEr, packaging files that is.21:06
gld1982ltd1ok21:06
gld1982ltd1man, i need someone who knows what they are doing to join the team on launchpad. how could i go about that?21:07
ralgld1982ltd1: The Vcs-* files in control should point to repo where the debian/ files are stored, if you're going to include them.21:08
ralAnd Homepage: needs filling in of course :)21:08
ralgld1982ltd1: The version number in changelog is what it would be if packaged in debian.21:10
ralIf something is packaged in ubuntu and not in debian it would be something like 1.0-0ubuntu121:11
gld1982ltd1ah......ok.21:12
ralThe idea being that if was subsequently packaged in debian then the newly packaged version would supercede the ubuntu version.21:12
ralYou can compare package versions with "dpkg --compare-versions".21:13
ralSomething I was having problems with myself earlier :)21:13
gld1982ltd1ral: did you look at the actual trunk this testing branch was taken from?21:14
gld1982ltd1http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lxmed/lxmed/lxmed/files21:15
ralI was looking here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing/view/head:/trunk/installation/debian/lxmed/debian/21:16
gld1982ltd1right....the trunk is different. maybe i changed something i wasn't supposed to?21:17
ralgld1982ltd1: You should also make sure the version number for your ppa would be superceded by any "properly" packaged package.21:18
gld1982ltd1there is no properly packaged package. there is no package yet at all.21:19
ralgld1982ltd1: Er, dunno.21:19
ralgld1982ltd1: Yes, but if there is a properly packaged package it should take precedence over your ppa package.21:19
gld1982ltd1oh, ok.21:20
gld1982ltd1so i need to change the version to 1.0ubuntu0? would that work?21:22
ralgld1982ltd1: 1.0-0ubuntu0 would work, but something like 1.0-0ppa1 might be more appropriate.21:25
gld1982ltd1ah21:25
gld1982ltd1i see21:25
ral1.0-AubuntuB means upstream version 1.0, debian revision A, ubuntu revision B.21:26
gld1982ltd1aaaaahhhh21:28
ralSo the -0 part is important.21:28
gld1982ltd1ok....i'm going to revert back to the original and start over. looking at the original source, should i follow this page? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html21:30
gld1982ltd1that's what i have been trying to follow.21:31
ralgld1982ltd1: I'm not familiar with that page, but given that it is talking about keeping the packaging files in a repo suggests it's reasonably up to date.21:34
ralhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete gives more details.21:34
ralThere's lots to learn, but it looks like you've started with a reasonably straightforward package.21:35
gld1982ltd1cool.21:35
gld1982ltd1ral: thanky ou very much for your help.22:02
gld1982ltd1i got to go now.22:02
ESphynx2thanks again for the help guys22:25
ESphynx2micahg: still around? dpkg-source: error: `!amd64' is not a legal architecture string22:35
micahghrm, I guess that's only good for dependencies22:37
ESphynx2yeah that's what it looks like... for [!amd64]22:37
ESphynx2So what should I do here?22:37
* micahg guesses list them out then22:38
micahgi386 armel armhf powerpc22:38
ESphynx2fair enough22:39
ESphynx2done... reimporting the branch and re-schedulring a build then :)22:41
ESphynx2btw, if anyone is willing to try it out, the previous build did succeed on Quantal:  ecere - 201208132049-0~776~quantal1  @ https://code.launchpad.net/~ecere-team/+archive/ppa/+packages22:43
ESphynx2(though that's before the packaging tweaks, since that build didn't go through :P)22:43
ESphynx2well gg, bbl22:45
ESphynx2thanks micahg22:45
Laneysomeone want to do a round of haskell rebuilds?23:06
Laneyseeing a few weird failures on arm{el,hf} that i haven't investigated yet but are keeping some rows red23:07
ajmitchsounds terribly exciting, where do I sign up?23:07
Laneyso try not to reupload those if you can, but it's not the end of the world if you do23:07
Laneyi already accidently did that once23:07
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html thar23:07
ajmitchthis is why I need to get real armhf hardware working properly at home23:08
micahgLaney: any reason why haskell-platform wasn't uploaded?  someone just filed a bug23:08
Laneyi was waiting to finish everything else23:08
Laneyso that i don't have to think about whether other packages are making it red23:09
ajmitchwhy does the transition tracker show it as red for all archs?23:09
Laneysame with dummy23:09
micahgumm, because it's not installable?23:09
Laney haskell-platform : Depends: ghc (< 7.4.1+) but 7.4.2-2 is to be installed23:10
Laney                    Depends: libghc-haskell-src-dev (>= 1.0.1.5) but it is not going to be installed23:10
Laney                    Depends: libghc-haskell-src-dev (< 1.0.1.5+) but it is not going to be installed23:10
Laneyat least the ghc one will require sourceful uploadery23:10
Laneyand haskell-src is in level 35, so will be around soon23:11
micahghrmm, why does it show that package as level 1 then?23:11
Laneyno clue23:11
ajmitchLaney: I take it there are still a few uploads/syncs to do?23:12
micahgLaney: can you have a look at my tracker branch?23:13
* micahg would appreciate if someone with a proper setup could run it to see if it does what I think it does23:13
Laneyi'll look tomorrow23:13
Laneysleep now23:13
micahgok23:14
Laneyajmitch: not so many syncs23:14
Laneythat freeze thing23:14
* ajmitch has no proper quantal setup yet23:14
Laneyhttp://paste.debian.net/183446/23:14
ajmitchLaney: that's a short list23:14
Laneygood eh23:15
Laneyrest will just be rebuilds23:15
Laneynighty night23:15
ajmitchnight23:15

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